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ghostcubehttp://www.picpaste.de/Bildschirmfoto2.png01:00
ghostcube:)01:00
nixternalone bug fixed committed, millions more to go! now to poke some Ubuntu SRU peeps01:33
JontheEchidnawow, I actually found a triagable bug in Rosetta01:36
JontheEchidnaIt's stripping the msgctxt from some strings in kio4.po, causing kfile to not be able to localize the locations in the places panel in dolphin01:37
JontheEchidnathe kfile code specifically notes that the part that it's stripping must be there01:38
nixternalhrmm, someone hosed the kubuntu-docs branches...there are like 2 or more now and they are all over the place01:47
nixternaljjesse: lp:kubuntu-docs is correct02:56
nixternalgrr, more people filing bugs about the same damn crap with kubuntu-docs...and that problem was created by backporting stuff incorrectly and changing the docs location02:57
jjesseoh glad lp:kubuntu-docs was correct03:06
jjesseare the problems easy to solve?03:06
nixternalfor the most part03:07
nixternalthe 8.04 one I doubt I will even waste my time with, as it is End of Life in 2 months right?03:08
nixternal18 months03:08
jjesseyeah it isn't lts03:08
nixternalya, so I am not going to waste my time with it. I released a fix for the 9.04 issue though03:08
nixternalas it stands, I hate Kubuntu Documentation :(03:08
nixternalwe need to fix it up, but I am kind of stuck on how to do that03:09
jjesseits taht bad?03:09
nixternalwell, I think we are doing to much03:09
nixternalfor a majority of the documentation, KDE docs should be perfect03:09
jjessethat makes sense to me03:09
nixternalKubuntu Docs should only outline Kubuntu stuff...some hardware stuff and what not03:09
jjesseagreeed03:09
nixternalwe are outlining a ton of stuff that is nonsense I think03:09
nixternalAbout Kubuntu can contain a ton of information that would get rid of stuff like "office" and such03:10
jjesseagreed03:10
nixternalI am going to work on "About Kubuntu" and see how many of the "topics" I can get rid of with it03:10
jjesseyay03:10
jjessei support your decision03:10
nixternalthen for 4.4 I, well we (yes you too), need to work on KDE docs03:10
nixternalforget this Kubuntu stuff :p03:10
jjessei know i do03:10
nixternalme too dude03:11
nixternalI have been afk for to long03:11
jjesseis svn still the best place for all that or is it now in git?03:11
nixternalI am going away either the end of this month or next month for a few weeks on a much needed break away from life :)03:11
jjessenice we all need breaks from life03:11
nixternalgoing on a nice long bike ride for charity03:11
nixternalgoing to cover half the united states hopefully03:12
jjessewow that's awesome, will people be able to track you online or osmething?03:12
nixternalthat I don't know yet...I will have to look into that03:12
nixternalI am leaving my computer at home for the entire thing :)03:12
nixternalwhen I come back, somebody better have a job for me03:13
jjessenice that's great i did that on vacation w/ my wife03:13
jjessewell mostly03:13
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nixternaloi, I love editing the wiki :)03:19
jjesseliar03:20
nixternalhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation03:21
nixternal:)03:21
nixternaltold you so!03:21
jjessenice03:22
nixternalof course that will all change once I get a grip on docs03:22
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ScottKJontheEchidna: The intent is to seed the messaging indicator since it doesn't otherwise get pulled in by apps that use it (e.g. pidgin), so "only used if installed" == "default Kubuntu config" which is IMO totally unacceptable.05:11
ScottKneversfelde: Give me a ping tomorrow (~12 hours from now) and we'll sort it out.05:19
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markeyhmm, karmic gave me firefox 3.0.1308:45
markeybit old, that one08:45
Unksimarkey: you can install 3.5 with firefox-3.5 if you want to use it before they change it as default09:06
markeyyep, thx09:06
Unksiyw09:06
QuintasanAnyone is still working at akonadi-resource-googledata?10:06
Mamarokhave people alread reported that kpackagekit is utterly broken in 4.3. final? no means to edit the sources, it simply crashes11:50
JontheEchidnaScottK: You'd still have to manually add the plasmoid, at the moment13:22
JontheEchidnaThe plasmoid doesn't get pulled into the install anyhow13:27
JontheEchidnagonna try it, at least. brb13:29
JontheEchidnaubottu: ping13:31
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore13:31
JontheEchidnaha, I get that now that I've read the book13:31
jtechidna|testJontheEchidna: ping13:33
JontheEchidnahum, don't get what it's supposed to do, other than log that something happened in Konversation. It seems a bit useless at the moment13:34
JontheEchidnaScottK: Anyway, it's not going to get in anyone's way unless they explicitly install the plasmoid and add it to their desktop/panel13:40
rbrunhuberWhat is the "official supposed to be working" network management application in kubuntu karmic?13:51
ScottKifup/ifdown14:47
ScottKRiddell: Should libpackagekit-qt source be removed?  It looks like it only provides packages that are in packagekit now.15:17
Mamaroksome help in #kubuntu would be appreicated...15:21
ScottKJontheEchidna: Do you still get regular Konversation notifications?15:56
nixternaloi oi16:28
ScottKIs the new KNM version supposed to work with WPA yet?16:53
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ghostcubeguys i have a strange thing here17:43
ghostcubei have en hdd on this ione is store my musik and so17:44
ghostcubeon this hdd if i look at it there are files not showing17:44
ghostcubeif i open amarok the files are there and get played17:44
ghostcubehttp://picpaste.de/Bildschirmfoto3.png17:44
ghostcubeanyone an idea what causes this17:53
ghostcubein 4.2.4 this worked fine17:53
ghostcubehmmm18:08
ghostcubein amarok i cxan see the files not showing in dolphin18:09
ghostcubeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh18:09
ghostcube:|18:09
nico575I am trying to get conquer to work through wine or play on linux. when i run it all it keeps telling me is that there is a problem with my direct3d even though i have all the drivers. any one have any ideas?18:11
nico575please can anyone help? i have been trying to fixthis for almost a week and a half now18:19
Monika|Kmaybe ask in a wine channel?18:24
nico575also does anyone know how to gert the screen saver to stop coming on in the middle of my movie without me having to turn it off and back on?18:25
Monika|Knico575 you could ask in #kubuntu18:37
EagleScreenwhy the new kcm-gtk? what is the difference between gtk-qt-engine?18:41
ghostcubeguys amarok 2.1.1 on kubuntu is patcxhed maybe18:42
ghostcubeor has the default option to copy musik to collection ?18:42
ghostcubethis is not normal18:42
ghostcubeamarok steals by itself files into its collection18:42
ghostcubeeven if i dont tell it18:42
JontheEchidnaEagleScreen: just the config module is in kcm-gtk18:46
jtechidna|testJontheEchidna: ping18:47
jtechidna|testJontheEchidna: ping18:48
JontheEchidnaScottK: yeah, the old-style OSD still works if you enable it (It never was enabled by default)18:49
blackmooni'm under kde 4.3 (jaunty) i'm unable to start kgpg... also from konsole, nothing happen... any hint?18:59
JontheEchidnablackmoon: I think it might dock itself to the system tray19:00
blackmoonJontheEchidna: it should, but i got nothing in the system tray19:01
JontheEchidnahuh, weird19:01
blackmoonJontheEchidna: yes, it is19:01
blackmoonJontheEchidna: sorry i'm a dummy :)  i've see now the little arrow in the sys tray...19:02
JontheEchidnaaah, yeah. It does hide it's icon by default in 4.319:03
Monika|Kseems to be a sub-optimal icon19:03
JontheEchidnaIt probably shouldn't hide the window when it starts up19:03
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Quintasanurgh, where I can get any REVU admin?20:25
ScottKQuintasan: #ubuntu-motu is your best bet.20:26
ScottKJontheEchidna: What's the deal with the new binary for konq-plugins?20:33
* ScottK noticed it's in New.20:33
ghostcubeScottK: ping21:06
ScottKghostcube: pong.21:06
ghostcubeScottK: are the qt4.5.x updates for 4.3.0 still inside the ppa staging repo21:07
ghostcubeor moved to ppa backports ?21:07
ScottKghostcube: I'been offline for a week and am not up to speed with what's going on right now.21:07
ghostcubeah ok no prob i will bother Riddell then21:10
ghostcubelol21:10
ghostcubethx21:11
JontheEchidnaScottK: Debian split out the localized documentation into it's own package21:39
ScottKJontheEchidna: Since that should all go in language packs for us, I'm not sure we should have it.21:40
ScottKPerhaps we need to ask Riddell.21:41
JontheEchidnaScottK: But that's just the .po files, right?21:41
JontheEchidnaThis is localized .html files for khelpcenter21:41
ScottKHmm.21:42
ScottKNot sure.21:42
JontheEchidnaI'm pretty sure that we use pure upstream docs in translation situatoins21:42
ScottKNo other extragear stuff has separate packages for this, does it?21:43
JontheEchidnano other extragear project has documentation for 15 pieces of software in 15 languages either21:44
ScottKOK.  I think we need to figure out how to put that stuff into language packs, but dunno.21:44
JontheEchidnaWe don't for regular KDE stuff, which is not to say that the KDE lang packs shouldn't depend on kde-l10n-* for the docs21:45
JontheEchidnaI think trying to get Rosetta to handle docs when it can't even handle .pos properly would be a recipe for disaster.21:46
ghostcubeguys question, my nameserver isnt set when i startup for eth1 only if i restart networking it works fine. What is the difference between the network startup in mainline and release kernels is there an script i miss somehow22:18
ghostcubeoO22:18
apacheloggeris it me or is launchpad's usability down the drain?22:54
* ghostcube thinks slow machine for old man is ok22:55
ghostcube:D22:56
Monika|Kapachelogger: what for example?23:36
apacheloggerMonika|K: how does one change the private state?23:43
Monika|Khm, no idea, I only find this in the FAQ https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+faq/56723:51
Monika|Kwell, gotta sleep, gn823:51

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