| dhillon-v10 | hello everyone | 18:44 |
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| dhillon-v10 | Is anyone there | 18:44 |
| j1mc | hi dhillon-v10 | 18:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | how can I help | 18:45 |
| j1mc | :) | 18:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | I am new and having trouble with navigating here | 18:45 |
| j1mc | sure - no problem | 18:45 |
| j1mc | what version of ubuntu do you use? | 18:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | 9.04 | 18:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | I know a lot about programming | 18:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | my stuff is in Computer Vision | 18:46 |
| j1mc | I'm not familiar with Computer Vision - what is it? | 18:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | It is the art of making computer see what we humans can using solid mathematics | 18:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | like face detection | 18:46 |
| j1mc | wow, cool | 18:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | yah my question is that when I get here do I just start typing and talking | 18:47 |
| j1mc | most of the ubuntu documentation is desktop-focused, would that interest you? | 18:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | yes sure | 18:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | I am learning about it as well | 18:47 |
| j1mc | or would you be interested in working on the server docs? | 18:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | I wouldn't mind either | 18:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | I am familiar with both | 18:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | :) | 18:48 |
| j1mc | ok... are you familiar with docbook at all, or would you be willing to learn? | 18:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | no I would like to learn thanks | 18:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | about docbook | 18:49 |
| j1mc | sure - that's the xml-based markup language that we use to write the docs. | 18:49 |
| j1mc | have you had a look at the doc team wiki page yet? | 18:49 |
| dhillon-v10 | Yes | 18:49 |
| dhillon-v10 | I have learned to use most of the software from the wiki pages | 18:50 |
| j1mc | i'd recommend grabbing the doc team bzr branch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Repository/ | 18:51 |
| j1mc | and having a look at how things are set up. | 18:51 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright I have bzr installed | 18:51 |
| j1mc | i'd also recommend sending a note to the doc team mailing list, if you haven't already | 18:51 |
| j1mc | just let them know that you're interested in helping out | 18:52 |
| dhillon-v10 | Alright, I didn't know it was that easy | 18:52 |
| j1mc | before you do that, though, you might want to skim through some of the different topic sections... | 18:52 |
| j1mc | see which one interests you | 18:52 |
| dhillon-v10 | Thanks a bunch | 18:52 |
| j1mc | with your background and interests, i think you might find the server docs to be most engaging | 18:52 |
| j1mc | as they are more technically oriented, of course | 18:53 |
| dhillon-v10 | I also would like to know your email so I can talk to you later on | 18:53 |
| j1mc | dhillon-v10: sure - jwcampbell@gmail.com | 18:53 |
| dhillon-v10 | mine is dhillonv10@gmail.com | 18:53 |
| dhillon-v10 | Its easy to make friends | 18:53 |
| dhillon-v10 | :) | 18:53 |
| j1mc | dhillon-v10: if you want to work on server docs, i would recommend being in touch with Adam Sommer | 18:53 |
| dhillon-v10 | who is that? | 18:54 |
| j1mc | if you want to work on the desktop docs, i would recommend being in touch with Phil Bull or Matthew East | 18:54 |
| j1mc | Adam Sommer leads up the server docs | 18:54 |
| j1mc | Phil and Matthew lead up the desktop docs | 18:54 |
| j1mc | I work mostly on Xubuntu docs | 18:54 |
| dhillon-v10 | how do you know so much | 18:54 |
| j1mc | i've been around a while :) | 18:54 |
| dhillon-v10 | I just got to know about this irc thing yesterday | 18:55 |
| j1mc | :) | 18:55 |
| dhillon-v10 | so please bear with me | 18:55 |
| dhillon-v10 | :) | 18:55 |
| dhillon-v10 | I have made my own project for imaging | 18:56 |
| dhillon-v10 | procedures | 18:56 |
| j1mc | i think some developers think documentation is a lesser task, but it is important for users, and i think that knowing how to write good docs will make you a better developer | 18:56 |
| j1mc | at least knowing the basic skills, techniques, and concepts | 18:56 |
| dhillon-v10 | Yah if you know what you are doing writing it just helps more | 18:56 |
| dhillon-v10 | I am a teenager but I have a solid background in programming | 18:57 |
| j1mc | dhillon-v10: that's great | 18:57 |
| j1mc | nhandler is also a teenager who does development and documentation | 18:58 |
| dhillon-v10 | hey what about all the other people in this room | 18:58 |
| dhillon-v10 | are they all developers/ | 18:58 |
| j1mc | no, most are just documentors, but some do development, too | 19:00 |
| dhillon-v10 | so you would like me to download the bzr branch for documentation then change it and later push it back... | 19:00 |
| j1mc | dhillon-v10: no need to change it for now... and you would need to submit a patch in order to push something back. we don't give everyone "commit" rights right away | 19:01 |
| j1mc | just look through it, and see what area you want to work on | 19:01 |
| dhillon-v10 | oh I get it | 19:01 |
| dhillon-v10 | how do I submit a patch | 19:02 |
| j1mc | and let us know, "hey, i'd like to work on the topics in section X" | 19:02 |
| j1mc | as for patches... | 19:02 |
| j1mc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Submitting | 19:02 |
| j1mc | if you can't find the info you need on the wiki, let us know. :) | 19:02 |
| dhillon-v10 | I would like to add some docs to OpenCV | 19:03 |
| dhillon-v10 | Most people find it extremely hard to install but it is present in Synaptic | 19:03 |
| j1mc | what is opencv? | 19:03 |
| dhillon-v10 | It is an amazing free set of library that lets users accomplish computer vision tasks easily and there is something that needs to be changed like OpenMP integration | 19:04 |
| dhillon-v10 | It isn't present by defauly | 19:04 |
| dhillon-v10 | * default | 19:04 |
| dhillon-v10 | Can you help | 19:05 |
| j1mc | ok - for that kind of thing, you can contribute docs about that on the ubuntu wiki, or you can contribute directly to the documentation for that particular application | 19:05 |
| dhillon-v10 | Oh that would be great but will that reach to most people | 19:06 |
| j1mc | but info on how to install one kind of obscure application wouldn't really belong in the ubuntu system docs | 19:06 |
| dhillon-v10 | oh it isn't the installation | 19:06 |
| j1mc | well, install or use... | 19:06 |
| dhillon-v10 | it is the integration of OpenMP | 19:06 |
| dhillon-v10 | I think I understand now :) | 19:07 |
| j1mc | yeah, that kind of stuff would probably be best on the site for OpenCV or OpenMP | 19:07 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright thanks | 19:07 |
| j1mc | sure, no problem | 19:07 |
| dhillon-v10 | Can you give me a link for different channels | 19:07 |
| j1mc | #ubuntu-devel is for development | 19:08 |
| j1mc | #ubuntu-server is for the server and server development | 19:08 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright | 19:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | So what do you contribute a lot | 19:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | to the community | 19:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | I didn't mean to write what | 19:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | typo | 19:09 |
| j1mc | i contribute a fair amount, but i've been pretty tied up with a day job lately, so not as much lately | 19:10 |
| dhillon-v10 | Oh you work, lucky me I have my summer vacation | 19:11 |
| j1mc | :) | 19:11 |
| j1mc | i gotta run, but... | 19:11 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright bye and thanks | 19:12 |
| j1mc | join the documentation team mailing list, & send a short intro after you've been able to decide what topics you might like to write about | 19:12 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright | 19:12 |
| dhillon-v10 | j1mc: Hi | 21:05 |
| dhillon-v10 | hi everyone | 21:07 |
| starcraftman | lo' dhillon-v10 | 21:13 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: hey how are you | 21:14 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: did I talk to you before | 21:14 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: don't think so, I don't hang about doc so much. I'm a bt member and part of the wiki fg group. | 21:14 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: wiki fg group what is that | 21:15 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: I'm ok guess, just spent a few hours reconfiguring main system after I messed it up badly. | 21:15 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: what happened | 21:16 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki < Beginners Team wiki focus group | 21:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | starcraftman, that makes you part of the doc team :) | 21:17 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: Ya I know, guess I just don't hang out much here. Prolly ought to. | 21:17 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: this seems usefule | 21:18 |
| dhillon-v10 | *useful | 21:18 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: As to what happened, I'm still not quite sure. Somehow I messed up the system so bad it refused to enable rendering and compositing with a 3d driver. Even after a purge of all drivers and manual install. | 21:19 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: oh | 21:19 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: worst thing, I didn't have a drive image in place for my latest kubuntu install so had to reinstall and redo settings, almost back to normal. Took the oppurtunity to up to kde 4.3 | 21:20 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: Can you even make a disk image for ubuntu if so please explain how | 21:21 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: Oh sure, see my wiki I just updated : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem | 21:22 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: if your not interested in dd from a terminal, best to look at the gui programs. Both are good, though I use another paid solution that's a hold over from my windows days. True Image from acronis. | 21:23 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: I have heard a lot about Acronis but I thought it was for servers only | 21:23 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: nope, they make a desktop home version, works a charm. Paid though. Partimage or clonezilla do the same if your interested, just not a flashy gui. | 21:24 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: Can you please provide me with a link to that | 21:25 |
| starcraftman | links to the two free ones? Just see drive image section on the wiki ^ | 21:26 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: nope the link to Acronis home page where you found the desktop edition | 21:26 |
| starcraftman | http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/ | 21:26 |
| starcraftman | True Image home it's name, I've a bit older copy, no real changes. | 21:27 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: Would you say something about clonizilla regarding its performance | 21:28 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: can't really comment on it. Been meaning to try it. I haven't heard anything bad about performance. | 21:32 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: thanks man | 21:33 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: np | 21:33 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: when I go on the page mentioned above it only gives me download for exe file not linux source or installer | 21:33 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: Oh, forgot to metnion that, it's not actually a linux program, I created the recovery CD from the program. That's platform independant cuz ya just boot it like a live CD. | 21:34 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: I want to contribute to Ubuntu documentation and I have downloaded the bzr branch now what... | 21:36 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: Don't ask me about system doc stuff, I'm just a wiki editor at moment. Maybe down the line I'll do system too. | 21:37 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: okay :) | 21:37 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: might wanna ping Rocket2DMn, he'd know who to ask. | 21:38 |
| dhillon-v10 | starcraftman: how do I do that | 21:38 |
| Rocket2DMn | ask about what | 21:38 |
| starcraftman | dhillon-v10: for the record, when ya just type someones nick in a message, it's highlighted so to draw their attention. So when I put Rocket2DMn, in this message, it gets highlighted just to his chat. | 21:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | somebody call? | 21:39 |
| starcraftman | Rocket2DMn: dhillon-v10 wants to know about contributing to system docs, I said you'd know who to ask about it. | 21:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation | 21:39 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: how are you | 21:39 |
| Rocket2DMn | im doing well, thanks dhillon-v10 | 21:39 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: I have read the wiki | 21:40 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, so you know how to make changes then? | 21:40 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you find problems with the system docs, you should open a bug report against the ubuntu-docs package - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs | 21:40 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you want to fix the bug yourself, you can attach a patch to the bug report, and somebody with commit privileges will add it to the main branch if the patch is good | 21:41 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: I wanted to add a document for installation of OpenCV because most people find it really hard to install and it is available in Synaptic, Is that possible | 21:41 |
| Rocket2DMn | yeah, though i have no idea what opencv is | 21:42 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: It is a collection of programs used for Computer Vision and image processing | 21:43 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: I think you can probably help me out here | 21:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | well, im not an expert in dealing with the system docs | 21:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | im not sure where such a guide needs to go | 21:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | I think it can be helpful to first have such content on the Community Docs wiki | 21:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | then it can be ported over to the system docs later | 21:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: Alright thanks | 21:45 |
| Rocket2DMn | so for instance, you would add a page here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV | 21:45 |
| Rocket2DMn | (Assuming no other page already exists for OpenCV) | 21:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: I am creating the page now, thanks for your help | 21:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | dhillon-v10, when in doubt, you can email the doc-team mailing list and ask for advice | 21:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | Rocket2DMn: I will talk to you later, bye :) | 21:47 |
| Rocket2DMn | cool, i look forward to seeing your work | 21:48 |
| Rocket2DMn | thanks for contributing :) | 21:48 |
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