[10:22] <andv> asac, see ya
[10:22] <andv> good holidays
[10:24] <andv> gonna ping u when back cya
[10:24] <andv> have fun :)
[12:01] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[14:16] <fta> hi
[14:35] <BUGabundo> hey
[14:51] <fta> BUGabundo, makes me sad to see many people retweet the chrome debs while the ppa is 2 weeks ahead :P
[14:51] <BUGabundo> ahahaahahhaha
[14:51] <BUGabundo> who is doing so?
[14:52] <fta> http://identi.ca/notice/7757150 http://identi.ca/notice/7757160 http://identi.ca/notice/7757226 http://identi.ca/notice/7762507
[14:55] <BUGabundo> always the same guy
[14:55] <BUGabundo> plus a few redents
[14:55] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/249376/  seems good enough for me
[14:56] <fta> asac, 1h before the bot kicks in..
[14:57] <BUGabundo> $ grep part /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:57] <BUGabundo> # deb ftp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu kermic partner
[14:57] <BUGabundo> ooops
[14:57] <fta> kermic? lol
[15:00] <BUGabundo> yep
[15:00] <BUGabundo> typo
[15:12] <fta> http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=107684
[15:14] <BUGabundo> already read that
[15:19] <fta> yep, more people should read it
[15:20] <BUGabundo> why?
[15:20] <BUGabundo> are they afraid?
[15:26] <fta> i wouldn't want to knowingly run a browser doing that
[15:27] <fta> i'm not using the ubufox/multisearch, and i block as many trackers as possible
[15:31] <fta> Estimated repository size: 16.8 GiB (100.00%) of 10.0 GiB
[15:31] <fta> pfff
[15:34] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:08] <fta> BUGabundo, http://identi.ca/notice/7773322
[16:08] <BUGabundo> W00t
[16:08] <BUGabundo> redenting
[16:08] <BUGabundo> LOL
[16:09] <fta> BUGabundo: it will start to spread through the daily ppa, in ~2h, if you see people complaining about breakage, please bring them here, or ask them to file bugs
[16:09] <BUGabundo> sent to 8 sn and blogs
[16:09] <BUGabundo> ok
[16:09] <BUGabundo> I'll post to foruns and p1
[16:10] <fta> BUGabundo, it's not in karmic yet, i want feedbacks from the ppa users 1st.
[16:11] <fta> if it's good enough, i just need to push to karmic
[16:12] <BUGabundo> ill get a few testers
[16:12] <BUGabundo> me included
[16:12] <BUGabundo> LOL
[16:20] <BUGabundo> fta: STOP
[16:20] <BUGabundo> don't leave us without any working browser
[16:20] <BUGabundo> LOL
[16:20] <fta> eheh
[16:20] <fta> that's the idea, report bugs asap ;)
[16:26] <BUGabundo> once they are there let me know
[16:26] <BUGabundo> I'm running all 3 riggt now
[16:26] <BUGabundo> need to restart them
[16:29] <BUGabundo> fta why head 3.1???
[16:30] <fta> old name of the branch, we need to synchronize to rename it, just didn't happen yet
[16:34] <BUGabundo> ok
[16:59] <fta> lol, https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/
[17:17] <BUGabundo> checks
[17:17] <BUGabundo> doh
[17:17] <BUGabundo> you used it all
[18:26] <fta> BUGabundo, i386's ready
[18:26] <BUGabundo> 64 bits here
[18:33] <fta> so wait ;)
[18:36] <fta> with a hundred more builders, and distcc, it would be faster ;)
[18:41] <BUGabundo> ahah
[18:43] <fta> hm, "ia32-libs-chromium-browser [amd64] (>= 0.01~ucd7~)" or "ia32-libs-chromium-browser (>= 0.01~ucd7~) [amd64]"
[18:43] <BUGabundo> that's me
[18:45] <fta> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html
[18:45] <fta> "This is indicated in brackets after each individual package name and the optional version specification. "
[18:45] <fta> i guess it's "ia32-libs-chromium-browser (>= 0.01~ucd7~) [amd64]" then..
[18:46]  * fta likes to speak to himself
[18:53] <BUGabundo> fta: http://Miuler.jaiku.com/presence/4980a29cb7f94aebbbc5c040928b5410
[18:53] <fta> translation?
[18:55] <fta> i guess i figured it out, no complains there ;)
[18:56] <BUGabundo> no
[18:56] <BUGabundo> none
[18:56] <BUGabundo> just saying there's video suport
[18:56] <BUGabundo> and even a closed codec
[18:57] <fta> and it's working fine for me
[18:58] <fta> still need work though..
[19:14] <LLStarks> asac, firefox 3.5 transition today?
[19:16] <fta> LLStarks, in the PPA yes: http://identi.ca/notice/7773322, if there's no problem, karmic is next
[19:17] <LLStarks> timeframe?
[19:17] <fta> depends on the feedbacks
[19:18] <fta> the daily PPA will do that for all distros, from hardy to karmic (except the branding as explained in the commit logs)
[19:19] <fta> BUGabundo, ready
[19:20] <BUGabundo> ready
[19:21] <LLStarks> asac, cn you make autoscroll default?
[19:21] <LLStarks> or do i need to file a bug against 3.0, 3.5, and the non-existent 3.6 packages?
[19:23] <LLStarks> middle click does crazy things like pasting text or closing tabs unless its enabled
[19:24] <BUGabundo> you mean when it pastes what's in the buffer?
[19:24] <BUGabundo> I just disable that
[19:24] <BUGabundo> sucks
[19:24] <BUGabundo> don't see any use for it
[19:24] <fta> LLStarks, no way it becomes the default. if anything, it's for ubufox, not firefox-*
[19:25] <LLStarks> can you make it happen?
[19:26] <fta> no, i don't touch ubufox
[19:28] <LLStarks> oh okay
[19:28] <LLStarks> different question. is it so hard to cave and make multisearch a deb?
[19:31] <BUGabundo> bbl
[19:40] <fta> LLStarks, not my choice, i'm not involved in multisearch, ask asac
[19:40] <fta> BUGabundo, did it work?
[20:08] <ripps> LLStarks: middleclick paste is the default *nix operation. All other applications use it, so does firefox. Autoscroll can be enabled if you don't want it do so.
[20:10] <LLStarks> ripps, but it isn't
[20:10] <LLStarks> my tabs get closed instead.
[20:10] <LLStarks> and no history is left
[20:12] <ripps> Him middleclicking on the tab is supposed to close a tab, with or without autoscroll. Tab on the page or other fields is suppose to paste
[20:13] <ripps> s/Tab/Middleclick/    don't know what was going on in my head
[20:35] <BUGabundo> fta: back
[20:35] <BUGabundo> cheking for updates and restarting broswers
[20:35] <BUGabundo> forgot to hit ENTER after passw
[20:35] <BUGabundo> doh
[20:37] <fta> BUGabundo, ??
[20:37] <BUGabundo> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
[20:40] <fta> BUGabundo, ??
[20:40] <BUGabundo> nvm
[20:40] <BUGabundo> nvm
[20:40] <BUGabundo> you are slow today
[20:40] <BUGabundo> guess you are tired from all that packageing
[20:41] <fta> eh?
[20:41] <BUGabundo> ahahahaha
[20:41] <BUGabundo> ok restartin 3.5 and 3.6
[20:42] <BUGabundo> gettign the warning about importing
[20:42] <BUGabundo> set keep 3.5
[20:42] <BUGabundo> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[20:42] <BUGabundo> not cool
[20:42] <fta> it's not a warning, it's a question
[20:42] <fta> eh?
[20:43] <BUGabundo> grease monkey system wide
[20:43] <BUGabundo> disabling and restarting
[20:43] <fta> dpkg -l | grep -E 'firefox|xulrunner' | pastebinit
[20:44] <BUGabundo> ok so far so good
[20:44] <fta> i have greasemonkey, no problem here
[20:44] <BUGabundo> fta: $ dpkg -l | grep -E 'firefox|xulrunner' | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/249945/
[20:44] <BUGabundo> ii  greasemonkey                          0.8.20090123.1-0ubuntu2                           firefox extension that enables customization
[20:45] <fta> same
[20:45] <BUGabundo> strange then
[20:46] <BUGabundo> I manage to debug and track down my crashs to it
[20:46] <BUGabundo> both here and on debian
[20:46] <fta> maybe your scripts
[20:46] <BUGabundo> on 3.5 and 3.6
[20:46] <BUGabundo> none on this install
[20:46] <BUGabundo> I don't use 3.5
[20:46] <BUGabundo> unless for testing
[20:46] <fta> hm
[20:46] <BUGabundo> all scripts are on 3.0 and 3.6
[20:47] <fta> i guess i'll wait for asac before pushing that to karmic
[20:47] <BUGabundo> let me checkit may have imported from 3.0
[20:47] <BUGabundo> duh
[20:47] <fta> i just have your feedback, noone else reported anything
[20:47] <BUGabundo> right
[20:47] <BUGabundo> I had 3 tehre
[20:49] <BUGabundo> fta: here it says its not compatible with shireoko
[20:49] <BUGabundo> didn't the brand changed on ppa?
[20:51] <fta> you didn't read my dent properly
[20:51] <fta> BUGabundo, read the changelog: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.1.head
[20:53] <BUGabundo> ah?
[20:53] <BUGabundo> ok
[20:54] <Jad> hi
[20:54] <Jad> :O only 30 users :S
[20:54] <fta> that's a lot
[20:55] <BUGabundo> couf
[20:55] <BUGabundo> no one talks LOL
[20:55] <Jad> :P
[20:55] <Jad> PEOPLE
[20:55] <Jad> CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
[20:55] <Jad> I have a problem migrating rom 3.0 to 3.5
[20:56] <Jad> and actually.. i feel that my firefox on ubuntu is much slower than my firefox on windows vista :S
[20:56] <BUGabundo> jad using the version on the daily ppa?
[20:56] <maco> it is
[20:56] <BUGabundo> hey maco
[20:56] <maco> mozilla does lots of profiling to optimize firefox on windows
[20:56] <Jad> :O
[20:56] <Jad> it should be the same for ubuntu..
[20:56] <Jad> :S
[20:56] <JosephMArc> hello
[20:56] <maco> it require a LONG time spent compiling
[20:57] <Jad> i'm preferring now chrome UNSTABLE to firefox... :S
[20:57] <Jad> ah
[20:57] <maco> compile once for profiling, have it run a bit, then compile a second time
[20:57] <Jad> ok now can i tell u my problem with 3.5?
[20:57] <maco> aye
[20:57] <fta> Jad, what is the problem?
[20:57] <Jad> I downloaded firefox from the official website
[20:57] <Jad> when it was RC3
[20:57] <Jad> release candidate 3
[20:57] <fta> bad
[20:57] <Jad> :O
[20:58] <BUGabundo> Jad: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[20:58] <Jad> and i tried to install it..
[20:58] <Jad> using
[20:58] <Jad> BUGabundo?
[20:58] <maco> there's a firefox-3.5 package...
[20:58] <BUGabundo> jad use this ppa
[20:58] <Jad> i know i have it..
[20:58] <fta> Jad, continue..
[20:58] <Jad> WHAT'S PPA?
[20:58] <BUGabundo> been telling you that for 15 min
[20:58] <BUGabundo> !ppa > Jad
[20:58] <Jad> :P
[20:58] <Jad> ah ok
[20:58] <Jad> fta : thanks ill continue
[20:59] <Jad> i installed it using:
[20:59] <Jad> ./configure
[20:59] <Jad> make
[20:59] <Jad> make install
[20:59] <Jad> it worked..
[20:59] <Jad> i go to about>> i see firefox 3.5
[20:59] <Jad> then/.
[20:59] <Jad> when I close the terminal..
[20:59] <Jad> firefox would close :/
[20:59] <Jad> and then when i repoen it (from the icon... and also if i write from the terminal: firefox-3.5)
[20:59] <Jad> it will open firefox 3.0.X
[20:59] <Jad> :S
[20:59] <BUGabundo> DUH
[20:59] <BUGabundo> you can't close a terminal where you lunch an app
[20:59] <maco> well it closed because it hung up
[20:59] <BUGabundo> if you don't nohup it
[21:00] <maco> you can run "nohup ./firefox-3.5 &"
[21:00] <Jad> and sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 will tell me that it is installed..
[21:00] <Jad> what's nohup?
[21:00] <maco> no hang up
[21:00] <maco> like when you hang up a phone and your call ends
[21:00] <Jad> ah
[21:00] <Jad> ok
[21:00] <Jad> so know what should I do...?
[21:01] <Jad> omg
[21:01] <Jad> it just worked :/
[21:01] <fta> where is the one you built yourself? in /usr/local ?
[21:01] <Jad> i was opening firefox.. and not shirotoko..
[21:01] <Jad> no one told me:S
[21:01] <Jad> now
[21:01] <JosephMArc> I told you
[21:01] <Jad> josephMArc tol dme
[21:01] <Jad> yeah :P
[21:01] <JosephMArc> you won't listen to me
[21:02] <Jad> but shouldn't shirotoko overwrite firefox?
[21:02] <BUGabundo> Jad: what are you doing running karmic if you have no knowledge about OS testing?
[21:02] <Jad> -_-
[21:02] <Jad> tijj
[21:02] <JosephMArc> he is not
[21:02] <Jad> im not running karmic
[21:02] <BUGabundo> JosephMArc: seem he doesn't listen to noone :(
[21:02] <Jad> and this doesn't depend on OS testing! :P
[21:02] <fta> Jad, what does "which firefox" give you?
[21:02] <Jad> /usr/bin/firefox
[21:03] <fta> ls -l /usr/bin/firefox ?
[21:03] <Jad> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-08-06 11:08 /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
[21:04] <fta> Jad, dpkg -l | grep -E 'firefox|xulrunner'  (please pastebin that to http://paste.ubuntu.com/)
[21:05] <Jad> ok
[21:05] <fta> and give us the url
[21:05] <Jad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/249957/
[21:06] <Jad> fta why are you doing all this.. it worked..
[21:07] <fta> ok, so with what you have, firefox is 3.0 (that's expected) and to run 3.5, you need to run firefox-3.5
[21:07] <Jad> now it worked..
[21:07] <Jad> but before it didn't..
[21:07] <fta> you may want to install firefox-3.5-gnome-support too
[21:07] <Jad> hmm it's beeing downloaded and updated with the updates right?
[21:07] <fta> oh, then nm, i read it didn't work
[21:07] <fta> right
[21:08] <Jad> yeah
[21:08] <Jad> thanks :)
[21:08] <fta> i was expecting a problem with the transition to 3.5 i just pushed to the PPA, but it's not your case obviously
[21:08] <fta> good
[21:09] <Jad> BUGhando TIJJ
[21:20] <fta> BUGabundo, i'm away now. wake me up if there's a problem with my 3.5 transition thingy
[21:25] <BUGabundo> k