[00:00] <marchiou> will kde 4.3 bi pushed for updates (in the official repo) for kubuntu 9.04?
[00:02] <cor> they do a bisexual version now?
[00:03] <marchiou> cor fuck your mother
[00:03] <tsimpson> marchiou: watch your language and topic
[00:04] <marchiou> sorry
[00:04] <marchiou> any way cor fuck up you
[00:07] <Alumin> So, I changed "Compositing type" from XRender to OpenGL under "System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Advanced", and I get this error: Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options.  Settings will be reverted to their previous values.  Check your X configuration.  You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[00:07] <Alumin> (that last bit gave me a laugh :p)
[00:08] <Alumin> I'm using the KDE 4.2.2 packages that came with the distro (Kubuntu 9.04), as well as the default "radeon" driver that Kubuntu installed
[00:08] <cor> heh
[00:08] <tsimpson> you need the proprietary ATI driver for accelerated 3D
[00:08] <tsimpson> !ati
[00:09] <cor> it's unusual, at least in my experience, that OpenGL would fail, and Xrender work
[00:09] <Alumin> tsimpson: fglrx?
[00:09] <tsimpson> Alumin: yes
[00:09] <Alumin> hmm
[00:10] <tsimpson> OpenGL uses hardware, XRender uses software
[00:10] <Alumin> OK...the "desktop effect" I really wanted was real transparency, and that does work with XRender, so I may elect to not install it and forego the other effects...trying to run as "pure" of a system as possible
[00:10] <Alumin> but thanks for the info, it's good to know that that's the issue and not some kind of configuration b0rk :)
[00:10] <tsimpson> it's always a trade-off
[00:11] <tsimpson> freedom Vs functionality
[00:11] <tsimpson> (in hardware anyway)
[00:11] <Alumin> tsimpson: to the day when that's not true!  *clink*  :)
[00:16] <cor> along with Security Vs Convenience
[00:20] <neoandersen> Hi
[00:21] <neoandersen> My ubuntu is not starting...
[00:21] <neoandersen> Help
[00:22] <neoandersen> it did the routine check of drives and now when I enter the login it just doesn't start...
[00:23] <neoandersen> it returns a black screen and after it, it asks the login again...
[00:23] <neoandersen> it isn't a wrong password problem...
[00:24] <neoandersen> when I type a wrong password it returns "login failed"...
[00:40] <kroson> hey ppl
[00:40] <kroson> i cant have sound in kplayer for kubuntu
[00:41] <kroson> i have for dragon player and kmplayer
[00:41] <kroson> what is the package im lacking?
[00:41] <cor> can't or don't?
[00:41] <Brhad56> kroson: does it work in amarok?
[00:41] <kroson> ive installed kubuntu-restricted-extras already
[00:41] <kroson> not tested amarok, but worked in those 2
[00:41] <Brhad56> did it used to work?
[00:42] <kroson> oh well
[00:42] <kroson> i tried again and it worked now
[00:42] <kroson> LOL
[00:42] <kroson> omfg xD
[00:42] <Brhad56> gremlins
[00:42] <kroson> now one last problem
[00:42] <kroson> is there any plugin to play wmv files in konqueror?
[00:42] <kroson> im enjoying this browser until now
[00:42] <kroson> xD
[00:44] <kroson> wma and wmv, by the way xD
[01:11] <klsdn> what is the command name for the "restricted-manager"
[01:11] <klsdn> i'm trying to use the "restricted driver" for my wireless card
[01:15] <neoandersen> but system doesn't start
[01:15] <neoandersen> help!
[01:17] <klsdn> how can i disable my wireless card
[01:29] <cor> totally, or temporarily?
[01:30] <klsdn> how can i tell if i am using the restricted modules for my wireless card
[01:30] <klsdn> temporarily
[01:30] <klsdn> wireless isn't working
[01:44] <cor> ifconfig <wlan0 or whatever iface is named> down   .. or better yet ...
[01:45] <cor> ifdown <iface name>  .. e.g..
[01:45] <cor> ifdown wlan0
[01:45] <cor> ifup wlan0 will bring it back up again
[01:46] <cor> check out (by which I mean do "man <command>") ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, and ip
[01:48] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[01:49] <ign0ramus> was anyone else 'upgraded' from firefox 3.0.x to Shiretoko?
[01:49] <cor> good nick
[01:49] <ign0ramus> thanks :)
[01:52] <Alumin> ign0ramus: I was
[01:52] <Alumin> well, not on my Kubuntu machine
[01:52] <ign0ramus> Alumin, are you having any issues with it? (ie, back button not working, general breakage of other features)?
[01:53] <Alumin> on my Wintendo machine it did :)
[01:53] <Alumin> no, seems to work fine actually, save one for one extension that didn't think it was compatible
[01:53] <ign0ramus> Alumin, hmmm... I don't want to wipe another profile, but it won't even open my homepage
[01:54] <ign0ramus> ...at least not on startup. blank page every time.
[01:54] <Alumin> I have 3.0 and 3.5 installed side-by-side on this (Kubuntu) machine and they both seem to work fine except the Java package depends specifically against firefox-3.0
[01:54] <Alumin> (otherwise I'd still be using 3.5)
[01:54] <ign0ramus> Alumin, any idea how to revert?
[01:54] <Alumin> revert to what, 3.0?
[01:54] <ign0ramus> yah
[01:54] <Alumin> are you on Jaunty?
[01:54] <ign0ramus> Alumin, yessir
[01:55] <Alumin> just install the "firefox-3.0" package (and remove the "firefox-3.5" package if you want)
[01:55] <ign0ramus> Alumin, let me see.  apparently "firefox" now means "firefox-3.5"
[01:56] <Alumin> % aptitude show firefox | grep ^Depends:
[01:56] <Alumin> Depends: firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0-branding
[01:56] <Alumin> not on mine :)
[01:57] <ign0ramus> Alumin, i wonder if the kde 4.3 repos brought this in...
[01:57] <Alumin> you can check that with "apt-cache policy firefox"
[01:57] <Alumin> see where it got your currently-installed "firefox" package from
[01:58] <ign0ramus> Alumin, Aha! " 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages"
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> ign0ramus- sure you're on 9.04? I have the backports PPA, and "firefox" is still 3.0.13
[01:58] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, positive.
[01:58] <Alumin> wtf is ppa heh
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> Personal Package Archive
[01:58] <ign0ramus> Alumin, personal packa
[01:58] <ign0ramus> ^ yeah
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> They're used for stuff that isn't officially supported
[01:59] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, "apt-cache policy firefox" reports that line for firefox-3.5
[01:59] <Alumin> oh...so each Ubuntu dev has a subdirectory?
[01:59] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, for 3.0.13, the line is: "500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/main Packages"
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, check your sources list
[02:00] <Dragnslcr> Alumin- dunno if they all do, but they all could if they wanted
[02:00] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, can I safely remove that PPA and now officially have KDE 4.3?
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> If the only extra repository you have is backports for KDE 4.3, "firefox" should be 3.0.13
[02:02] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, i also have "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main"
[02:05] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, well, removing the two ppa's took care of the Shiretoko issue, and it didn't remove any kde base packages, so I think I'm in the clear here
[02:05] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, so I assume that KDE 4.3 is now in the supported repos?
[02:06] <milo__> please hw can i change the desktop or screen resolution. Things are all big and i dn't like it
[02:06] <ign0ramus> milo__, in System Settings or using xrandr
[02:10] <milo__> ignOramus: thanks; im there but i can't find the exact place :(
[02:10] <Dragnslcr> ign0ramus- no, 4.3 is still only in the backports PPA
[02:10] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, yeah, was reading... I am adding the backports PPA *only* (the one listed on the Kubuntu homepage)
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> I have the same PPA as you, so the problem must have been something else
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> Maybe just an outdated cache
[02:11] <milo__> ignOramus: what am i supposed to do once i have typed xrandr?
[02:12] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, no, but I also had the "jaunty-updates" PPA, not just the backports PPA
[02:12] <ign0ramus> !resolution | milo__
[02:14] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, err, I mean "http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages" - that was the repo pulling in Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko)
[02:15] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, removing that but keeping the Backports seems to be my fix. Thanks.
[02:15] <ign0ramus> Alumin, thanks to you as well.
[03:13] <KidneyBeans> hi
[03:13] <KidneyBeans> im having problems with my hannah montana linux
[03:17] <KidneyBeans> please help me
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Uh
[03:20] <KidneyBeans> i accidentally changed the background picture of her into something not nice that i found on a 'celebrety' site. i dont think it is really her because she would never do that. . .
[03:20] <KidneyBeans> how do i change it back?
[03:23] <zuz> so shiretoko = firefox?
[03:23] <StupidWeasel> Yup.
[03:24] <StupidWeasel> New gecko engine et al.
[03:25] <zuz> didnt know that, and ive been running firefox 3.0.13 or something similar because i couldnt find the version 3.5 that i had downloaded
[03:26] <StupidWeasel> 3.5 is out now right?
[03:26] <StupidWeasel> Well on the repos that is.
[03:29] <zuz> i got it a few days ago
[03:30] <zuz> couldnt find it because nowhere near the icon it says mozzilla or firefox
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> Yes, Firefox 3.5 is the standard repositories
[03:30] <zuz> its title bleed browser on my computer
[03:30] <zuz> the description says minefiled 3.5 web browser
[03:31] <zuz> version    3.5.3 pre
[03:31] <zuz> if i could only get opera to play flash movies, i wouldnt even use firefox
[03:31] <zuz> Opera is about 10x faster
[03:37] <sun_> hi
[03:48] <Watson516> I have just recently installed Kubuntu-desktop through Ubuntu and booted up to it and I can't seem to get my dual monitors working...do I need to install any new drivers with the new desktop?
[03:51] <donnybrasco> hey - can anyone tell me why kubuntu is booting into a gnome desktop environment?
[03:51] <hackerx> donnybrasco: did you just install it
[03:51] <hackerx> it does so by default
[03:51] <donnybrasco> yes
[03:51] <donnybrasco> yesterday
[03:51] <hackerx> you have to manually install kde if thats what you want
[03:52] <donnybrasco> how so?
[03:52] <hackerx> just a sec. I ll get you the commands
[03:52] <donnybrasco> it booted into kde first, then after I set it up it switched to gnome
[03:53] <Watson516> if you already have kde installed, you can select to boot to it in the login window
[03:53] <Watson516> if not, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <hackerx> http://abz89.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/simple-how-to-install-kde-4x-on-ubuntu-904/
[03:53] <hackerx> try that web site it will give you the directions
[03:54] <donnybrasco> thanks
[03:56] <Watson516> so, does anybody know how to get dual monitors working (extended, not mirrored) within Kubuntu if the KRandRTray doesn't open? And any ideas why it doesn't open?
[04:01] <Watson516> well, I got the display manager open but it doesn't appear to allow me to extend my desktop...any ideas?
[04:05] <TheDarkFreak> hey, does anybody know how to set the default monitor refresh rate in Kubuntu?
[04:08] <Watson516> TheDarkFreak: Applications > System > Screen Resize & Rotate (KRandRTray)
[04:08] <TheDarkFreak> oh, the option is in that?
[04:08] <TheDarkFreak> I hvaen't seen a way to set a rate to default
[04:08] <TheDarkFreak> I've seen how to change it
[04:09] <sledge> :D/-<
[04:10] <TheDarkFreak> how do you set a setting to default again?
[04:23] <TheDarkFreak> Hydrogen?
[04:24] <TheDarkFreak> that doesn't happen to be hydrogen of the neocodex forums, does it?
[05:14] <ejam> somebody know how to make works fine the intel video GM965/GL960 ?
[05:14] <ejam> in ubuntu 9.04 crash or its to slow
[05:15] <ejam> i update the kernel to 2.6.30 but its the same
[05:15] <genii> !intel
[05:32] <nique> hello, i need help setting a static ip on my kubuntu box
[05:33] <nique> i have two ethernet ports. one is for the internet and the other is for my local network. i want to internet share. anyone help pls?
[05:34] <genii> !ics
[05:35] <nique> genii: i'd like to use the gui/plasma interface if possible. i'm on the latest kde (4.3, i think). i'm setting this box up for my sister and i want it to be "intuitive" for her. she's not that good with computers.
[05:36] <jorge_> list #gay
[05:37] <genii> nique: I'm not up on 4.X, I'm still running 3.5.10
[05:38] <nique> genii: ah. well, thanks anyway. going to go chech google again
[05:41] <alvise> hello i need some help
[05:43] <alvise> \help
[05:44] <genii> alvise: Best to just state your problem/question and see if any takers
[05:46] <alvise> opening certain page in Konqueror i receive this message: ns plugin viewer crashed and caused the signal 11 SIGSEGV - how can i solve this?
[05:47] <alvise> i think this is a problem about adobe flash player
[05:49] <alvise> now i just removed the flash player plugin and the message does not appear anymore, BUT the pages does not load the same!
[05:50] <alvise> someone say to load a previous version of the plugin, but i don't know how to
[05:52] <alvise> can you help?
[05:52] <clintbuntu> If I messed up the bar at the bottom of the screen in KDE, is there an easy way to return it to default?
[05:53] <genii> alvise: It's nearly 1am in my timezone and I'm preparing for sleep, so at this time no, unfortunately.
[05:53] <mostafa_> when I want to restart or shutdown the system won't do that and turn all the things off but wait by this word "Will now restart" in the black text mode but nothing happens unless I press alt+ctrl+del and then it says "stopping all md devices" then restarts
[05:54] <alvise> genii: thank you anyway
[05:55] <clintbuntu> There are alot of people here for this room to be this quiet
[05:56] <genii> clintbuntu: Most of the helpers are in timezones where it's the middle of the night or so :)
[05:57] <mostafa_> clintbuntu: you mean task bar?
[05:58] <lu6cifer> My system tray and digital clock are screwed up on the panel--they're oversized for some reason...how do I resize them?
[05:58] <mostafa_> plasma tools?
[06:00] <mostafa_> lu6cifer: if you restart your system does it happen again?
[06:00] <lu6cifer> I restarted X
[06:00] <lu6cifer> it was the same
[06:00] <lu6cifer> I think I misclicked or something. Also, when I minimize applications, they don't show up on the panel
[06:01] <mostafa_> add a clock manually to your system tray
[06:02] <mostafa_> is it normal or abnormal?
[06:02] <lu6cifer> well, I right clicked the panel and added a clock through "add widgets"
[06:02] <lu6cifer> it was still oversized
[06:04] <mostafa_> It happens for me some time but I think when I reboot my system It corrects
[06:05] <lu6cifer> K..I'll try that
[06:05] <mostafa_> and I think if you can add another bar and its components manually it would be correct
[06:05] <clint_> Quick Question - If I messed up the bar at the bottom of KDE, is there an easy way to return it to default?
[06:06] <maxiras> Hola
[06:06] <mostafa_> clint_: I think you must return it to default manually ?
[06:07] <clint_> ok, hmm, first day on KDE. Not sure what default was, just know that this doesn't look right anymore
[06:07] <RigCalleja> Anyone: Hi all. I'm using KDE 4.3. Is there a plasmoid to display CPU frequency?
[06:07] <clint_> thanks though
[06:07] <tatan> dfg
[06:09] <mostafa_> RigCalleja: we have cpu usage monitor :D
[06:10] <donnybrasco> hi - is there any way to temporarily grant root priviledges?
[06:10] <mostafa_> clint_: it is easy just click on plasma icon then "add widget"
[06:10] <maxiras> Hola, alguien me puede decir como entrar al Konversation en español
[06:11] <RigCalleja> mostafa:  Thanks. I've already tried System Monitor - CPU plasmoid but it doesn't display CPU frequency :(
[06:12] <mostafa_> RigCalleja: use bubblemon it helps bro;)
[06:13] <clint__> I think I figured it out. I apparently had deleted the task manager
[06:14] <mostafa_> clint_: K add it then bro :D
[06:14] <clint__> yeah, I did. Looks normal again. Thanks
[06:14] <mostafa_> clint_: happy to hear that ;)
[06:17] <RigCalleja> mostafa: cool! thanks
[06:18] <mostafa_> RigCalleja: ;)
[06:21] <donnybrasco> I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf file, but it says I don't have permission
[06:21] <donnybrasco> can anyone help?
[06:22] <_gtt_> alt+f2, konsole, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:23] <donnybrasco> there's no way to do it graphically?
[06:23] <_gtt_> alt-f2, kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:24] <donnybrasco> thanks
[06:24] <_gtt_> yw
[06:31] <maxiras> 	
[06:31] <maxiras> Hi, I like that this Konversation in Spanish?
[06:33] <maxiras> 	
[06:33] <maxiras> Hi, I like that this Konversation in Spanish?
[06:34] <maxiras> 	
[06:34] <maxiras> Hi, I like that this Konversation in Spanish?
[06:35] <aslan> pp how to set transparent windows ? i love those
[06:35] <_gtt_> !en
[06:35] <_gtt_> !es maxiras
[06:38] <maxiras> u_u
[06:38] <maxiras> 	
[06:38] <maxiras> Do not know the link for the Spanish anyone, I need to get me out a doubt
[06:42] <maxiras> Do not know the link for the Spanish anyone, I need to get me out a doubt
[06:47] <Breetai> Hey all, I am running Jaunty with the kde 4.3 ppa. How do I get a transparent taskbar?
[06:49] <sndv> can anyone help me get my sound to work?
[06:49] <sndv> the sound card has been detected and when i tested it, it works but i cant hear when i play audio~_~
[06:50] <maxiras> How to change the link to the chat room in Spanish
[06:51] <maxiras> How to change the link to the chat room in Spanish
[06:53] <maxiras> How to change the link to the chat room in Spanish
[06:53] <bpa> #ping iamherman
[06:53] <bpa> #ping bpa
[06:54] <maxiras> How to change the link to the chat room in Spanish
[06:56] <maxiras> How to change the link to the chat room in Spanish
[07:03] <mostafa_> maxiras: click on "join"
[07:04] <mostafa_> maxiras: then in add channel for example type "#ubuntu+1"
[07:06] <mostafa_> maxiras: wish you help
[07:06] <prasad> Hey can anyone tell me how to change mouse setting on Kubuntu 9.04. I want to check the click properties. iwant my folder to open on double click and not single click which is default
[07:10] <kabith> hi
[07:10] <kabith> anyone here?
[07:11] <prasad> anyone ol?
[07:12] <mostafa_> prasad: go to system settings -> keyboard & mouse
[07:13] <mostafa_> then click on mouse tab
[07:14] <mostafa_> then choose Double-click to open ......
[07:28] <alexshenoy> hello all
[07:30] <alexshenoy> does anybody know where i can find packages for python-kde4:4.3
[07:30] <alexshenoy> i thought they would be in backports, but they are not
[07:39] <royaflash> hi
[07:45] <tsimpson> alexshenoy: see the topic
[07:46] <alexshenoy> tsimpson: i have 4.3 installed and upgraded from 4.2.4 but python-kde4 isnt 4.3 its 4.2.4 and im confused
[07:47] <alexshenoy> b/c i figured it would have been updated with all the other packages. so i figured maybe i did something wrong
[07:47] <alexshenoy> or the packages weren't in backports
[07:50] <tsimpson> the package python-kde4 should be in deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[07:51] <tsimpson> I can see it in the repo
[07:54] <alexshenoy> tsimpson: with version 4.3?
[07:54] <tsimpson> yes
[07:54] <alexshenoy> hurm
[07:54] <alexshenoy> okay. well then i did something wrong. or something is messed up
[07:54] <tsimpson> apparently published at 06-Aug-2009 12:36am
[07:55] <terrordrone> where is ubuntu channel ?
[07:55] <tsimpson> terrordrone: #ubuntu (where else)
[07:56] <terrordrone> thanks man
[07:56] <tsimpson> alexshenoy: see what "apt-cache policy python-kde4" says is available/installed (you can do it in the GUI, but it's quicker in konsole)
[07:59] <alexshenoy> okay it says 4.3 is available, but 4.2.4 is installed
[07:59] <alexshenoy> but when i do an upgrade it doesn't show up as an option
[07:59] <alexshenoy> or in package kit as either
[08:00] <tsimpson> it should, try with apt-get: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:00] <alexshenoy> okay. i just removed it and its dependencies and reinstalled and now it looks to be working
[08:02] <tsimpson> kpackagekit is a bit of a misery to me sometimes, and people thought adept was bad
[08:02] <alexshenoy> i prefer adept
[08:02] <alexshenoy> i find myself just using cli these days
[08:03] <tsimpson> adept was never completed, and the maintainer moved on a while ago. so we needed to find _something_
[08:04] <maxiras> hi
[08:05] <alexshenoy> right. i just thing kpackagekit isn't complete yet
[08:05] <tsimpson> neither was adept
[08:05] <tsimpson> at first, adept was even worse
[08:06] <maxiras> Hello, Can I change room?
[08:07] <jussi01> maxiras: just type: /join #nameofchannel
[08:08] <maxiras> And for a room in Spanish?
[08:08] <alexshenoy> tsimpson: okay the newest packages are installed but my root problem is still there. my python kde programs are not working.
[08:08] <alexshenoy> maybe its a qt issue
[08:09] <alexshenoy> yes it was
[08:09] <alexshenoy> thank you very much for you help tsimpson. i really appreciate it.
[08:10] <tsimpson> :)
[08:10] <maxiras> And for a room in Spanish?
[08:10] <tsimpson> !es
[08:23] <greg_universe> who
[08:25] <mornat> saludos a todos
[08:25] <mornat> que hacen...???
[09:40] <newlinuser> hello everybody
[09:44] <vistakiller> hi
[09:44] <vistakiller> i have problem with microblogging plasmoid
[09:44] <vistakiller> they dont show friend anymore
[09:44] <vistakiller> in kde 4.3
[09:55] <sunonet> is anybody here using kde 4.3, I want to ask a question
[10:01] <vistakiller> i use kde 4.3
[10:01] <vistakiller> sunonet
[10:01] <sunonet> oh, can you please verify this problem
[10:01] <sunonet> open up dolphin
[10:01] <vistakiller> ok
[10:02] <vistakiller> next?
[10:02] <sunonet> abuse the keyboard, like holding Ctrl+I  (showing/hiding the filter bar)
[10:02] <sunonet> see if dolphin stops responding to keyboard input
[10:02] <tsimpson> that's more likely a Qt issue
[10:02] <sunonet> it's been bugging me since 4.2
[10:02] <vistakiller> xm i can weite to the bar
[10:02] <sunonet> if it's not fixed, ok
[10:04] <tsimpson> sunonet: as I said, it's most likely an issue with Qt, which KDE is build on. have you reported the bug to KDE or launchpad?
[10:05] <sunonet> I haven't , because I'm not sure this problem can be reproduced. And I don't know how to report bugs, really.
[10:05] <tsimpson> !bug
[10:06] <Mamarok> but it would be better to report it to https://bugs.kde.org, as this is most likely a Qt problem
[10:06] <vistakiller> i have this bug with kde 4.3
[10:06] <vistakiller> http://osdir.com/ml/kde-bugs-dist/2009-08/msg01103.html
[10:06] <vistakiller> i will report and to launchpad i think..
[10:07] <tsimpson> reporting it to LP let's us get more info, then send upstream
[10:07] <tsimpson> besides, KDE are not responsible for Qt
[10:08] <Mamarok> tsimpson: well, I don't see bugs coming upstream that often, so reporting it upstream is much better, if it is a packaging issue, we send it downstream :)
[10:08] <tsimpson> Mamarok: all the more reason to report to LP first :)
[10:08] <Mamarok> and it's quite easy to do: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=dolphin (in this case, else replace the product name)
[10:09] <Mamarok> tsimpson: if you think so... If I weren't subscribed to the Amarok bugs in Launchpad, I would never ever see something coming upstream TBH
[10:10] <Mamarok> even if that has improved lately
[10:10] <tsimpson> Mamarok: I know we send reports upstream, as LP emails me about it :p
[10:10] <tsimpson> we could do better though, just man-power issues
[10:11] <Mamarok> yep, same on our side
[10:33] <kumar> Hi, I'm trying to update to Opera 10 beta. I read in the docs that I just need to add the opera .deb repository and just upgrade
[10:33] <kumar> Which one should I choose here? http://deb.opera.com/
[10:34] <tsimpson> use lenny: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera-beta/ lenny non-free
[10:34] <kumar> thanks!
[11:18] <asdzxcman> anyone managed to compile fglrx-kernel-source under Karmic?
[11:19] <tash> hello all; seeking a quick J2ME tutorial
[11:21] <kroson> hi people
[11:21] <kroson> im having a problem here with my mobile phone and kubuntu
[11:21] <sebastian> hi german people here?
[11:21] <kroson> it cant detect the device as a mass storage device
[11:21] <kroson> only as a modem
[11:21] <kroson> previously at ubuntu it worked
[11:22] <kroson> is there anything missing?
[11:23] <yovan> hello
[11:23] <sebastian> sombody fron germany here?
[11:24] <yovan> Hi everyone
[11:24] <yovan> i've just installed kubuntu and testing it
[11:25] <yovan> Can anybody tell me how to install complete packages for a software
[11:25] <yovan> example i'm trying to install eclipse
[11:25] <yovan> No body to help
[11:26] <llutz> !de | sebastian
[11:27] <sebastian> ok i think i can speak a little bit english
[11:27] <yovan> Can you help me out sebastian?
[11:28] <yovan> Please, if you have a clue....
[11:28] <sebastian> why out. what want you to do?
[11:28] <kroson> what do you mean with "complete packages for a software"?
[11:28] <llutz> yovan: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[11:29] <kroson> sudo apt-get update
[11:29] <kroson> and sudo apt-get install eclipse
[11:29] <combo> hello, because wine doesn't work for me perfectly I want to know how to run Windows OS under Linux? is there any virtual machine or something?
[11:29] <yovan> thanks...but this was an example...i would like to know haow you do it by using the graphical mode
[11:30] <yovan> like add remove in ubuntu ...i think
[11:30] <llutz> combo: virtualbox, vmware, xen...
[11:30] <combo> llutz: kk , thx
[11:30] <theadmin> combo: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[11:30] <tsimpson> !virtualization
[11:30] <theadmin> !kvm
[11:31] <combo> theadmin: thx a lot, it's installing now :)
[11:32] <kroson> can anybody help me with my question? about the mobile phone?
[11:32] <kroson> its detected as mass storage device at ubuntu, but not in kubuntu
[11:32] <kroson> what may be the problem?
[11:33] <theadmin> kroson, you might need some plugin...
[11:33] <combo> theadmin: btw. is this VirtualBox a freeware version / ? :)
[11:33] <theadmin> combo, it's totally free to use.
[11:33] <combo> theadmin: cuz i heard that vmware is shareware ;/
[11:33] <combo> theadmin: kk :)
[11:33] <combo> theadmin: thanks a lot one more time
[11:35] <kroson> theadmin: but which one? :S
[11:36] <theadmin> kroson, well, i myself am not very good in linux, so i dunno
[11:38] <mchk0123> hi everybody
[11:39] <mchk0123> i've got a stupid question about daemon and kde ...
[11:39] <theadmin> mchk0123, ask away
[11:39] <mchk0123> is there any GUI for KDE to deal with Linux daemon startup
[11:39] <mchk0123> I found no infos in Kubuntu website about it
[11:40] <mchk0123> I mean, you know ftpd, nntpd, apache, autostart daemons
[11:41] <theadmin> mvhk0123, there was something. Somewhere in settings
[11:43] <mchk0123> theadmin, ... you think under KDE Config Control Panels, there is something
[11:43] <theadmin> mvhk0123, there is something like that in system settings->Advanced->Service Manager. Is that it?
[11:44] <mchk0123> not completly, this one deal only with KDE daemons, not pure Linux ones
[11:44] <theadmin> mchk0123, ah, got it... Then i don't know, sorry
[11:44] <mchk0123> for example to restart apache I can type a command like /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:45] <theadmin> Guess you can only do it via Konsole then
[11:45] <mchk0123> really ?, ok ...
[11:46] <theadmin> maybe there is some GUI
[11:46] <theadmin> I'll try to google around
[11:46] <mchk0123> all the way, a GUI is only a help, not a critical feature
[11:47] <mchk0123> google -> I spend some time, find nothing for KDE
[11:47] <mchk0123> but Gnome has something included in Yast
[11:47] <theadmin> ...it brings up Daemon Tools :D not anything even close.
[11:47] <mchk0123> arg Deamon Tools, is a CDROM faker for Windows XP
[11:47] <theadmin> Yeah
[11:48] <mchk0123> nevermind, to keep going on this problem
[11:48] <mchk0123> *don't
[11:48] <mchk0123> perhaps I will personnaly make a Qt/KDE GUI for this, I have some experience on it
[11:49] <mchk0123> and it's doesn't seems to be too complicated
[11:50] <theadmin> yeah, technically, it's a press button->execute command in shell thing
[11:50] <mchk0123> + scan & parse file to retreive configurated deamon list
[11:51] <mchk0123> the must difficult part will be icon making ;-)
[11:51] <theadmin> =D why not making a text-only gui :D
[11:52] <mchk0123> sure, a text-only gui, but in BW for handling all kind only Linux consoles
[11:52] <mchk0123> ok, I stop
[11:53] <theadmin> whatever :D we've sorta went off topic, started talking about programing
[11:53] <mchk0123> bye
[11:54] <pilar> hola, alguien que hable español?
[11:55] <theadmin> pilar, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=49.0
[11:55] <pilar> theadmin:  gracias :)
[12:10] <homy> Which is the default/recommended program for looking at images? I messed up my file type associations and don't know which program normally opens jpg or png images (just for simple viewing when opening from dolphin).
[12:11] <homy> Is it gwenview or okular?
[12:11] <theadmin> GwenView by default.
[12:11] <homy> theadmin: ok, thanks!
[12:12] <homy> or even better: is there a way to reset all file type associations to kubuntus defaults? The "Defaults" and "Reset" buttons in the corresponding systemsettings module are greyed out.
[12:14] <theadmin> They are this way. You might want to enter admin mode or something, there is some button for this somewhere, i think.
[12:14] <theadmin> Hm
[12:14] <theadmin> No, that is not in KDE... There must be some way, right?... I dunno then
[12:14] <bsaser> i want to boot a cd  help me pleas __
[12:15] <m0u5e> is there a way to make it so that my widgets only appear in dashboard mode?
[12:16] <theadmin> m0u5e why would you need that. Your desktop will then be empty, since everything on it are widgets.
[12:16] <m0u5e> i like my wallpaper? its kinda annoying that i see things in the background
[12:17] <theadmin> bsaser, just insert your boot CD when booting. Also, set CD as primary boot in bios (usually, you can access bios by pressing del, escape, f2 or something like that when booting)
[12:17] <homy> theadmin: even if I start systemsettings with "kdesudo systemsettings" the "Defaults" and "Reset" buttons are greyed out.
[12:17] <m0u5e> theadmin: so do you know of a way to do it? :)
[12:17] <Mamarok> m0u5e: then make another activity without widgets
[12:18] <theadmin> m0u5e, that is a good idea :D... but otherwise i dunno
[12:18] <Mamarok> and add the activity swithcher widget to the panel
[12:18] <Mamarok> -h
[12:18] <theadmin> Mamarok: -h?
[12:19] <Mamarok> theadmin: I made a typo :)
[12:19] <Mamarok> swithcher
[12:19] <homy> m0u5e: it is possible to have a different set of widgets on the dashboard and the desktop - this is probably what you want.
[12:20] <kroson> hi again
[12:20] <kroson> does ubuntu or kubuntu do kernel upgrades by default?
[12:20] <kroson> with update managers?
[12:20] <kroson> or just with dist-upgrade?
[12:20] <m0u5e> homy: well i want them all to be on my desktop, just not visible unless i toggle them
[12:20] <homy> m0u5e: to configure that, select zoom out in the cashew and then select "configure plasma"
[12:21] <homy> The you can zoom back in on your current activity.
[12:21] <homy> m0u5e: just put all your widgets on your dashboard then and leave your desktop empty, you'll have your desired behavior then.
[12:22] <m0u5e> homy: huh, i'll take a look at it... sorry im not too familiar with how activities work yet :(
[12:22] <homy> m0u5e: you don't need activies for that.
[12:23] <homy> m0u5e: Just click "zoom out" in the cashew. Then, at the top left, choose "Configure plasma" and select separate dashboard thingy. Then, zoom in by clicking the zoom in button in the bottom left of the desktop
[12:24] <m0u5e> homy: sorry i'm a little lost, so what I would like is for my widgets to be hidden unless "toggled" by a shortcut key, kinda like how the widgets come to the front when you press ctrl+f12
[12:24] <m0u5e> homy: i don't see a "configure plasma" button on the top left?
[12:24] <homy> m0u5e: yeah, you just add all your widgets to the dashboard which will only be shown with ctrl-f12 and leave your desktop empty.
[12:24] <homy> m0u5e: did you zoom out using the cashew?
[12:25] <m0u5e> homy: OH, you're asking me to add it while zoomed out, and so it wont actually show up unless i hit ctrl+f12?
[12:26] <homy> m0u5e: yeah, first you have to configure that. To do that, you have to be zoomed out.
[12:26] <homy> So, select zoom out in the cashew and choose "configure plasma"
[12:26] <homy> then, choose "separate dashboard"
[12:27] <homy> then, zoom back in on your desktop using the zoom in button.
[12:27] <m0u5e> okay the only options i have while zoomed out are "add widgets" "add activity" "zoom in" zoom out" "plasma workplace" and "folder view settings"
[12:27] <homy> m0u5e: oh, do you still have kde 4.2?
[12:27] <m0u5e> no kde 4.3 :X
[12:27] <homy> m0u5e: I'll do a screenshot for you.
[12:28] <m0u5e> its kinda weird though, since i have it installed with gnome, not everything is working like it should...
[12:28] <theadmin> by the way, Kubuntu works incredibly slow when i zoom out. What could cause that.
[12:28] <m0u5e> theadmin: me too
[12:28] <m0u5e> homy: i'm probably going to do a fresh install in the near future, maybe ill try it again when i have a clean install :D
[12:29] <homy> m0u5e: http://imagebin.ca/view/OGR_4TY.html
[12:30] <kaddi> hi, is there anyone familiar with widgets and kubuntu who might help me? (I'm typing the question right now)
[12:30] <m0u5e> homy: yeah that thing doesnt appear for me :X
[12:31] <m0u5e> oh btw, is there a way to configure the kicker for an "icon" view? rather than an icon with the name of my running app?
[12:31] <homy> m0u5e: oh! maybe the keyboard shortcut "Alt-C" works for you?
[12:31] <m0u5e> homy it unfortunately does not :(
[12:32]  * Mamarok waits for kaddi's question
[12:32] <homy> m0u5e: are you sure you have kde 4.3?
[12:32] <kaddi> I'm using the widget fancytasks and i would like to change the background, I wrote to the author who told me to modify fancytasks.svg by exporting the relevant item from inkscape, modify it in gimp and reimport it. I did that, and replaced the old fancytasks.svg with the modified one. I restarted the x-server but I still get the old background and not the modified one I wanted to use
[12:33] <kaddi> I am a total noob at graphics and at widgets, so I assume I missed a step somewhere, but I don't know which one
[12:33] <Mamarok> kaddi: where does fancytasks come from, kde-apps.org? I never heard of
[12:33] <m0u5e> yeah... i used the ppa from here http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[12:33] <kaddi> Mamarok kde-look.org
[12:33] <m0u5e> theres like a bunch of packages that kinda got messed up though, so i wouldn't be surprised if it's not a complete installation
[12:34] <Mamarok> kaddi: well, then you should check in the KDE techbase for more information, as these are third party applications. Or you ask the author again
[12:34] <Mamarok> http://techbase.kde.org
[12:34] <m0u5e> homy: like i said, i'm going to try a clean installation when i have more time :)
[12:34] <homy> hm I also used that ppa.
[12:35] <m0u5e> i'm finding i rather like 4.3 so far though, i tried kde back when it was 4.0... wasn't very happy and went back to gnome :(
[12:37] <m0u5e> homy: oh wait lulz, i have 63 packages that were held back...
[12:37] <m0u5e> homy: sudo aptitude full-upgrading now :(
[12:37] <theadmin> m0u5e, i've tried 3.5 first XD and was rather happy with it
[12:37] <Mamarok> m0u5e: 4.0 was never intended for users, it was a developer snapshot...
[12:38] <m0u5e> Mamarok: yeah, i read that after i already tried it... so i figured i'd wait a whiel and come back
[12:38] <homy> m0u5e: maybe it'll work then :)
[12:39] <m0u5e> i'm hoping :)
[12:39] <francisco_t> anybody use kubuntu kde4 with a non-english language??
[12:40] <sebbar> hi, still no kde after installing kde 4.3, any suggestions? I already tried dpkg --configure -a
[12:40] <Mamarok> francisco_t: you might ask in the language channel then
[12:40] <Mamarok> francisco_t: what language in particular?
[12:40] <m0u5e> i really dont have a preference between gnome or kde really... whichever one is more stable and less bugs is the one i'll use... but lately, it seems things don't just work as i need them to
[12:40] <francisco_t> Mamarok: it's to confirm a bug with traslation
[12:40] <Mamarok> sebbar: are you sure you have all the packages, nothing held back?
[12:40] <m0u5e> (in gnome)
[12:40] <theadmin> sebbar, what do you mean? Have you used "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get install kde"?
[12:41] <Mamarok> m0u5e: please stay on topic, support only here
[12:41] <m0u5e> Mamarok: sorry
[12:41] <m0u5e> so yeah, anyone know if there is a way to make the kicker show only app icons no names?
[12:41] <Mamarok> sebbar: are you still here?
[12:42] <sebbar> Mamarok: I just did a full upgrade as described on kubuntu.org
[12:42] <homy> m0u5e: do you mean the task manager widget?
[12:42] <homy> what is kicker?
[12:42] <Mamarok> sebbar: well, do you have packages held back or not?
[12:42] <m0u5e> homy: the panel?
[12:43] <sebbar> Mamarok: nope
[12:43] <Mamarok> m0u5e: no, kicker is the menu, not thze panel
[12:43] <m0u5e> Mamarok: oh, okay. the panel then :X
[12:43] <homy> Mamarok: isn't the menu kickoff?
[12:43] <Mamarok> sebbar: try moving your old ~/.kde/ and start again
[12:43] <Mamarok> right, but kicker is certainly *not* the panel
[12:43] <sebbar> Mamarok: will try, tnx
[12:44] <homy> m0u5e: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159480
[12:44] <homy> Mamarok: maybe kicker was the old kde3 panel?
[12:45] <homy> m0u5e: it seems that feature doesn't exist.
[12:46] <m0u5e> homy: darn :(
[12:46] <m0u5e> i would really be content I could just remove the app title and leave the icon lol
[12:47] <m0u5e> does anyone know a quick fix for making gtk applications look better in kde?
[12:48] <Mamarok> use Qt-curve?
[12:48] <homy> m0u5e: in systemsettings->Appearance->Gtk select Qt-Curve
[12:48] <Mamarok> I am off for now, cu later
[12:49] <m0u5e> homy: i dont see an option for GTK
[12:50] <homy> m0u5e: oh, well, then just instal the package "gtk2-engines-qtcurve" (if your update is already finished)
[12:52] <m0u5e> homy: hmm okay i'm going to restart now, thx for all the help :)
[13:13] <kaddour> est ce qu'il ya quelqu'un qui parle en francais
[13:14] <kaddour> et au
[13:14] <llutz> !fr | kaddour
[13:15] <kaddour> bon soir
[13:15] <kaddour> j'ai conmmancé a utiliser
[13:15] <kaddour> ubuntu , kubuntu , huntu server
[13:16] <kaddour> sa fait
[13:16] <kaddour> 06mois
[13:16] <Walzmyn> how do ya add apps to the quicklauncher? it's different than it was in 3.5
[13:16] <kaddour> chaque
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: you mean to the taskbar at the bottom?
[13:17] <kaddour> est sais vraimon extra
[13:17] <Walzmyn> no, I specifically added the quicklauncher plasmoid
[13:17] <Walzmyn> shadeslayer: it's on a panel, but t's the plasmoid
[13:18] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: hold one sec
[13:18] <Walzmyn> shadeslayer: if you right click, you get an "add icon" option, but it just takes you to a file chooser dialog, not the menu to pick an ap like it used to
[13:18] <Walzmyn> /s/ap/app
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: Walzmyn you can add the app via going to /usr/bin
[13:19] <Walzmyn> shadeslayer: what do i do there?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: select the name of the app you want to launch
[13:20] <homy> shadeslayer: just drag an application from the k-menu to the quickaccess plasmoid
[13:21] <shadeslayer> homy: i think you mean Walzmyn
[13:21] <homy> yes, I do.
[13:21] <Walzmyn> the dialog won't let you see anything other than .desktop files
[13:21] <homy> Walzmyn: : just drag an application from the k-menu to the quickaccess plasmoid
[13:22] <Walzmyn> aight, homy, that worked
[13:22] <juan_> Hello How are you?
[13:22] <Walzmyn> that's a bit cumbersome though. I liked the old way where it pulled up the menu for ya
[13:29] <juan_> I need people to speak in private that want to request me ,please there are something?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> !pm > juan_
[13:47] <Guest73739> hey :) how can i get gnome ? (want kde + gnome ^^
[13:49] <stevepearce> Guest73739: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in a terminal will do that
[13:49] <stevepearce> or sudo tasksel, then select Ubuntu Desktop
[13:49] <Guest73739> thx :))
[13:50] <Guest73739> :D
[13:50] <mchk0123> hello everybody
[13:51] <stevepearce> hello mchk0123
[13:51] <mchk0123> does anybody already succeded in compiling ksysv under jaunty ?
[13:52] <cuznt> pls what is ksysv?
[13:52] <mchk0123> i do that because i miss to find the binary for 9.04
[13:52] <mchk0123> sorry, ksysv in package kdeadmin, this is normaly the default GUI for runlevel daemons admin
[13:53] <kennethaar> Hi. Where do I enable Google gadgets in plasma widgets dialogue box? I can only see KDE-look.org plasmoids. But I would like to see google gadget too like in this picture: http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde_4_3/full/r949375-google2.jpg (I have KDE 4.3 final, kubuntu 9.04)
[14:00] <shadeslayer> kennethaar: type ggl-qt in krunner
[14:01] <mchk0123> bye
[14:12] <Third3ye> So I tried booting the Kubuntu 9.04 CD, installer and live CD, graphic safemode, noapic, etc, and everytime it either just freezes 80% or 85% while in the boot loader or the screen starts flickering and then it 's just black
[14:12] <Third3ye> Any ideas?
[14:26] <Wuk_> Third3ye: have you tried with acpi=off
[14:35] <Third3ye> Wuk_: Yeah
[14:36] <kennethaar_> shadeslayer: Hm. This worked. sort of but not as an integrated part of plasma.
[14:37] <shadeslayer> kennethaar_: ??
[14:38] <shadeslayer> kennethaar_: oh the google gadgets?
[14:38] <kennethaar_> shadeslayer: yeah :-)
[14:39] <shadeslayer> kennethaar_: yeah,i know.... i couldnt figure out how to use it with plasma either
[14:44] <TaMonKein> Hey, anyone know if i can install KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu 8.10?
[14:44] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: nope
[14:44] <waltzingalong> TaMonKein: you could but there are no kubuntu packages for it
[14:45] <waltzingalong> TaMonKein: so like shadeslayer typed, no
[14:45] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: project neon is your best shot
[14:45] <TaMonKein> ok
[14:46] <TaMonKein> www.neon-project.org?
[14:46] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: http://tinyurl.com/568eoq
[14:48] <Freddy2> hi
[14:48] <shadeslayer> Freddy2: hey
[14:48] <Freddy2> how can i set the PGP key for deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main ? (i want to update kde to 4.2.4)
[14:49] <waltzingalong> Freddy2: follow the instructions on the ppa page?
[14:49] <Freddy2> hmm let me search for them
[14:49] <waltzingalong> Freddy2: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3 instructions there for adding gpg key
[14:50] <Freddy2> i see.. on 4.2.4 page there were no instructions hehe
[14:50] <Freddy2> thx
[14:51] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: the link i posted above was for jaunty,replace ' jaunty ' in the ppa line with intrepid.... and then install kde-nightly
[14:52] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: the nightly packages dont have alot of things like ktorrent etc , so you will have to compile them yourself
[14:52] <TaMonKein> shadeslayer: Okey, thanks. I do understand that much.
[14:53] <TaMonKein> Well i need just the desktop and maybe amarok nothing more.
[14:53] <TaMonKein> As i dont like the KDE 4.1 taskbar icons
[14:53] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: for amarok,youll need amarok-nightly in the same repo
[14:54] <TaMonKein> ok
[14:54] <TaMonKein> Well anyway, not going to do it today as i have only gprs connection at the moment, but will add the repository. :)
[14:55] <floown> hello
[14:55] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: the official channel for neon is #amarok.neon
[14:55] <shadeslayer> !neon | TaMonKein
[14:55] <vikb> Hi... How to get the iPhone sdk environment working on Kubuntu?
[14:55] <floown> does exist a skyn that makes look Windows XP like a KDE 4 ?
[14:55] <TaMonKein> shadeslayer: Does the Project neon repository need PGP key?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> TaMonKein: yep
[14:56] <waltzingalong> TaMonKein: none of them _need_ it but recommended to add it
[14:56] <TaMonKein> waltzingalong: Well i've never been able to use launchpad repositories w/o the pgp keys
[14:58] <waltzingalong> floown: kubuntu
[14:58] <waltzingalong> :d
[14:58] <floown> waltzingalong: ^^
[14:59] <floown> I have found this old skin http://havocki.deviantart.com/art/KDE-XP-40544902
[14:59] <waltzingalong> floown: actually you can install kde on windows and you can launch plasma and so on
[14:59] <floown> oh, and the windows application have the same Kubuntu look ?
[15:00] <floown> +s
[15:00] <waltzingalong> floown: no, tis not the same as a windows theme
[15:01] <TaMonKein> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu/dists/interpid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[15:03] <Freddy2> anyway, why every new version network-manager has problems with static ip based configurations? i mean, shouldn't it be more or less a simple frontend?
[15:03] <TaMonKein> ah, my bad wrote interpid instead of intrepid :P
[15:03] <Freddy2> then you have to uninstall and edit manually "interfaces", again
[15:04] <waltzingalong> Freddy2: although with kde4.3 'knetworkmanager' should be used in place of the network manager plasmoid
[15:05] <Freddy2> there it works fine?
[15:06] <waltzingalong> Freddy2: my setup is no doubt different than yours but give it a try
[15:06] <gerardo> someone knows where get help in spanish?
[15:07] <Freddy2> i think i'll wait until 9.10 to fully upgrade
[15:07] <waltzingalong> Freddy2: which kde are you running now?
[15:08] <Freddy2> in this machine? i'm just updating jaunty to 4.2.4
[15:08] <waltzingalong> !es | gerardo
[15:10] <Freddy2> here i've seen a few unexpected errors, in 4.2.0, in just.. 30 minutes
[15:10] <Freddy2> time to reboot
[15:14] <serkamil> Hello everybody ...
[15:15] <waltzingalong> serkamil: greetings
[15:21] <Caliostro> Hi all
[15:23] <Caliostro> I have a BIG problem with my multimedia keyboard. Some buttons are missing in config (cheked with 'xev'). So, how to add new buttons and assign them? Appreciate for any help :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[15:24] <Caliostro> I have a BIG problem with my multimedia keyboard. Some buttons are missing in config (cheked with 'xev'). So, how to add new buttons and assign them? Appreciate for any help;)
[15:24] <Caliostro> Hi, BluesKaj
[15:26] <BluesKaj> hi Caliostro , I've had that problem ever since i switched to Linux , very few KB specialty keys are recognized. The volume and mute keys work , but that's about it.
[15:27] <serkamil> I thing I found bug in kde, and want to report it correctly. Where I have to do it? In bugs.kde.org or bugs.launchpad.net (because I use Kubuntu)?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> !bugs
[15:27] <rcm> Hi, I just upgraded to KDE 4.3, and I remen
[15:28] <rcm> Hi, I just upgraded to KDE 4.3, and I remembered the old metabar of konqueror, where you could select which program would you like to open a file without open the right-click menu
[15:28] <rcm> does exist something like that for dolphin???
[15:30] <Caliostro> BluesKaj, I've almost 20 keys wich work properly (player options, volume, browser navigation, etc.), but I need other 3 keys on my keyboard. They're very comfortable and accessible :)
[15:30] <BluesKaj> rcm, you can set konq up to act as a file manager in konqueror/settings/configure
[15:31] <Pliskin> BluesKaj : but the metabar is unusable, now, isn't it ?
[15:31] <rcm> yeah, I know that, but I do like dolphin, I'm just thinking if anyone made an application for do that in dolphin
[15:31] <serkamil> rcm, try find this option in system settings > file associations
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Caliostro, that's excellent , my KB didn't even do that in windows :)
[15:31] <ubuntu> menudo pt
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Pliskin, metabar?
[15:33] <Caliostro> http://gygcomputer.com/imagenes/GENIUS%20KB-29E%20CALCULATOR.jpg - three oval buttons on the left doesn't work :(
[15:34] <rcm> so, there is no way to set up that functonality on dolphin, right?
[15:35] <vals_kubuntu> hello all. I'm not exactly a linux newbie, but I'm quite stymied by the kubuntu 9.04 install process. I'm trying to install the thing on this laptop, but as soon as the installer goes past the keyboard selection, right after the progress dialog about checking partitions and file system, nothing happens
[15:35] <Caliostro> Mb, someone have experience in assignign new keys in the kubuntu? I know keycodes of this buttons...
[15:36] <vals_kubuntu> this is the point where the partition manager should come up, I assume, but for some reason it does NOT come up. I can see the partman and parted_server running in the background, but the actual UI window that should come up does not appear. I can cancel the installation process, of course, but this is not exactly what I want to do
[15:37] <vals_kubuntu> so I googled around and I found a number of launchpad bugs that seem to apply to this version of the installer, most of them fixed for future releases. the question is: is there a way to upgrade THIS installer, or do I have to burn a new image to get the stupid thing to install?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version, vals_kubuntu?
[15:38] <tango_> BluesKaj, 9.04 (that's me, that computer just shut down because of overheating)
[15:39] <tango_> BluesKaj, I'm honestly tempted to drop the thing 'til 9.10
[15:40] <BluesKaj> oh sry , i scrolled up and saw 9.04...ok give it some airspace underneath
[15:40] <Caliostro> BluesKaj, I've changed windows xp on kubuntu recently, so I need to set up all better than it was in windows for sure :)
[15:40] <tango_> BluesKaj, yeah I know, don't worry about the overheat thing 8-) I'm more concerned about the install, honestly
[15:41] <BluesKaj> I'm running 9.10 , and it's quite stable ..some plasma crashes which recover quickly
[15:41] <tango_> BluesKaj, so I should just give up on 9.04?
[15:41] <Caliostro> BluesKaj, 9.10 is beta?
[15:42] <Mamarok> Caliostro: aplha 3 for now
[15:42] <x3cion> Hai! I'm trying to connect with amarok to ampache, both pc's running kubuntu karmic. I always get some kind of error "Login Failed version too old"... why? :(
[15:42] <Mamarok> alpha even
[15:42] <BluesKaj> tango https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[15:42] <waltzingalong> x3cion: #kubuntu+1 for karmic
[15:42] <Mamarok> x3cion: you should ask in #amarok, that is too specific
[15:42] <x3cion> ty
[15:43] <tango_> I guess my gf will have to wait until christmas then for her windows to linux migration
[15:43] <waltzingalong> ok
[15:43] <tango_> but honestly, I'm quite perplexed by the state of the kubuntu installer in 9.04
[15:44] <waltzingalong> Caliostro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[15:45] <waltzingalong> tango_: yeah one wonders what is different considering the installer has worked fine in other setups
[15:46] <BluesKaj> BBL ..
[15:48] <tango_> waltzingalong, I think I managed to trigger the two or three bugs the partition manager had
[15:48] <waltzingalong> :D tango_ congratulations on that
[15:48] <tango_> waltzingalong, the problems are not with the installer per se, actually, they are with partman & co
[15:49] <tango_> waltzingalong, however, I expected a sudo aptitude update to provide new packages
[15:49] <tango_> waltzingalong, and instead neither ubiquity nor partman were updated
[15:49] <Caliostro> waltzingalong, thx a lot!!!
[15:50] <waltzingalong> tango_: installing from the dvd? desktop cd? alternate cd?
[15:50] <tango_> waltzingalong, desktop cd / amd64
[15:51] <tango_> waltzingalong, I should have known it would have been problematic given the OTHER bugs the cd had, on the live system
[15:51] <tango_> waltzingalong, things such as kwalletd not being launched and thus knetworkmanager failing, or no way to find and mount nfs or smb
[15:51] <waltzingalong> tango_: as in the media has defects? or which problems while in the live session?
[15:52] <tango_> waltzingalong, known bugs of the live session in the desktop cd for kubuntu 9.04
[15:55] <eMyller> hey, i just wrote a post in my blog, about Kate
[15:55] <eMyller> http://emyller.net/blog/2009/08/pate-kate-and-kubuntu-kde-4/
[15:55] <eMyller> might be useful :)
[16:12] <lubyou> im having some issues with pulseaudio. padevchoser always gives me 'connection refused'. pulseaudio runs as my user and the pulse-cookie file has the correct permissions. any idea?
[16:13] <waltzingalong> lubyou: add the user accounts to the pulse audio groups? though i was under the impression that kubuntu 9.04 does not need to use pulse
[16:14] <lubyou> im in pulse, pulse-access and pulse-rt.
[16:14] <lubyou> and i want to use pulse because i have a firewire soundcard which uses jackd
[16:16] <Caliostro> waltzingalong, thx again. You're the genius  ;)
[16:16] <lubyou> waltzingalong http://dpaste.com/77296/ output from pulseaudio
[16:16] <waltzingalong> Caliostro: ha, i just linked to the wiki pages :)
[16:16] <waltzingalong> though i guess 'being a genius' sometimes just means knowing where to look ?
[16:16] <Caliostro> I was trying to find those pages a few hours :)
[16:17] <Bluedeep> Hello
[16:17] <Bluedeep> I've upgrade to kde 4.3
[16:17] <waltzingalong> Bluedeep: congrats
[16:17] <waltzingalong> lubyou: do not know. http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup or #pulseaudio
[16:18] <waltzingalong> Caliostro: apparently google was nicer to me then :)
[16:18] <lubyou> waltzingalong mkay, thanks anyway
[16:18] <Caliostro> It works now... but now I need to solve problem in qt :)
[16:18] <Bluedeep> But i don't understand why under kde system setting I haven't Air Style
[16:18] <waltzingalong> Bluedeep: which language is your kde set to display?
[16:18] <Bluedeep> Italian
[16:20] <waltzingalong> Bluedeep: so does aria appear in the list ?
[16:20] <Bluedeep> no
[16:20] <Bluedeep> it isn't on the list
[16:21] <Bluedeep> I've only desktop theme air
[16:22] <Bluedeep> But under kde system setting style, there is now Oxygen
[16:25] <waltzingalong> Bluedeep: oh! yeah there is now the 'air' desktop theme but afaik there is no 'air' widget style
[16:40] <martijn81> do all widgets from apple work under kde4.3?
[16:40] <waltzingalong> martijn81: do any?
[16:41] <martijn81> waltzingalong: not that i see currently
[16:41] <martijn81> it just does not get added anymore
[16:41] <EagleScreen> can I find and install the kwin theme of OpenSuse in Kubuntu?
[16:43] <martijn81> EagleScreen: probably, but you need to know the settings first
[16:44] <draik> shadeslayer: I did as you suggested and it failed. I had to reboot. Would you like me to give you the results of 'sudo dhclient'?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> draik: sure..pastebin the output
[16:45] <draik> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/m4a9acaf8
[16:48] <shadeslayer> draik: looks like it isnt renewing the address...cant help you further,theres definitely a problem with the connection though
[16:49] <shadeslayer> draik: http://pastebin.com/m301469fe
[16:50] <draik_> shadeslayer: So I just had to restart again. I didn't get anything after posting my pastebin. Did you get my pastebin?
[16:51] <shadeslayer> draik_: yes
[16:51] <shadeslayer> draik_: did you get my pastebin?
[16:52] <sebastian___> anyone knows how i can update to kde 4.3? :)
[16:52] <shadeslayer> draik_: have you tried static address?
[16:53] <draik_> shadeslayer: No, I did not get your pastebin and I have not tried static IPs
[16:53] <shadeslayer> draik_: also i found a thread with the exact problem,a bit outdated though : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1055107
[16:53] <shadeslayer> draik_: http://pastebin.com/m301469fe
[16:54] <waltzingalong> sebastian___: yes check out the channel topic
[16:54] <sebastian___> hehe ok, sorry about that
[16:55] <p_quarles> draik_: your original question doesn't seem to be in recent scrollback; mind recapping briefly?
[16:57] <draik_> p_quarles: It was an issue from yesterday but ongoing since 8.10. Synopsis: My desktop will intermitently lose Internet connection for no good reason. Random browsing, no particular sites and sometimes getting packages/upgrades. I'm trying to get flightgear, but that's an instant disconnect at this point.
[16:58] <p_quarles> draik_: cool; is this the desktop you are on currently?
[16:58] <draik_> p_quarles: Yes.
[16:59] <p_quarles> draik_: so you're not experiencing the problem currently, I take it; I would be interested to see the results of arp and traceroute google.com
[17:00] <draik_> p_quarles: I can force it by trying to install 'flightgear'
[17:00] <draik_> shadeslayer: How do I make it have a static IP?
[17:00] <p_quarles> draik_: I see; well, the arp table when it's disconnected would be interesting; traceroute would just timeout
[17:01] <p_quarles> draik_: a static ip wouldn't necessarily make sense until we've narrowed down the problem
[17:01] <shadeslayer> draik_: there are 2 ways... one would ne to use 192.168.1.1 as the ip to the router in question via the network manager
[17:01] <shadeslayer> s/ne/be
[17:02] <shadeslayer> p_quarles: do you think it might be the network manager?
[17:02] <draik_> I'm using Wicd. Should I use NetworkManager?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> draik_: ah..thats what i was going to suggest :P
[17:03] <rav> hello. i'm considering upgrading hardy through adept. is this recommended?
[17:03] <shadeslayer> rav: from hardy to which release?
[17:03] <rav> shadeslayer: i'd like to go to intrepid, but i'm not sure to which release will adept upgrade
[17:04] <p_quarles> shadeslayer: it could be the machine, it could be the router, it could be the modem, or it could be the isp; hard to know with the information we have
[17:04] <draik_> shadeslayer: What do I set for DNS 1-3 on the static IP?
[17:04] <p_quarles> draik_: I would hold off on that before we have more diagnostics
[17:04] <shadeslayer> rav: well a clean install is *the* best way for that kind of thing...but adept will do just fine
[17:05] <draik_> p_quarles: I have a home server, netbook and 2 laptops that do not have issues with connecting and staying connected under the same conditions.
[17:05] <rav> shadeslayer: i'm concerned about things like my virtualbox machines. will they still work?
[17:05] <shadeslayer> draik_: dns would be the one on the modem...youll have to check that in the router settings
[17:06] <shadeslayer> rav: no idea...ive always done clean install
[17:06] <p_quarles> draik_: and they can all download flightgear, as well?
[17:06] <shadeslayer> *installs
[17:06] <draik_> shadeslayer: I have no static DNS right now. They are all 0.0.0.0
[17:06]  * odysseus brings timmies
[17:06] <draik_> p_quarles: Nope. No issue with the download and install.
[17:06] <p_quarles> rav: yes they should work, but you'll have to recompile the virtualbox kernel module because you'll have a new version
[17:07] <odysseus> hi all
[17:07] <shadeslayer> draik_: then put the same ones there
[17:07] <odysseus> i seem to have a problem signing in
[17:07] <p_quarles> draik_: and how are you downloading that? via synaptic, or from the site?
[17:07] <draik_> shadeslayer: I never had any, but what would you advise?
[17:07] <odysseus> im being told invalid password
[17:07] <draik_> p_quarles: command line
[17:07] <shadeslayer> draik_: i would say put 0.0.0.0 there
[17:07] <p_quarles> odysseus: signing in to freenode?
[17:08] <rav> p_quarles: will the upgrade do these things? like upgrading the nvidia kernel module and the virtualbox module?
[17:08] <p_quarles> rav: sometimes
[17:08] <shadeslayer> odysseus: contact #freenode
[17:08] <draik_> shadeslayer: I did that to Wicd
[17:08] <p_quarles> draik_: okay, so via APT repositories, *some* packages randomly cause a disconnect? weird
[17:09] <shadeslayer> p_quarles: totally :)
[17:09] <rav> p_quarles: i'm assuming it will break my wifi, since i use ndiswrapper with hardy, and i did got the ath5k module working on intrepid a few months ago, and ndiswrapper didn't work on intrepid then
[17:09] <draik_> p_quarles: Yup. upgrades and installs. Anything coming through there can fail.
[17:09] <shadeslayer> draik_: hold on... do you have wicd on the other machines as well?
[17:10] <draik_> shadeslayer: Nope. Wicd on just the desktop
[17:10] <shadeslayer> draik_: the one having the problem
[17:10] <p_quarles> draik_: maybe you should run traceroute on the repository you use; might provide a clue (or it might not)
[17:11] <draik_> p_quarles: OK. Let me give that a try
[17:11] <shadeslayer> draik_: i think wicd *is* the problem :P so try knetwork manager
[17:11] <rav> on a different topic, has anyone been able to change that horrible cursor theme on kde 4?
[17:11] <draik_> shadeslayer: Yes. I only have one desktop which is the one I'm currently using for this IRC session.
[17:11] <p_quarles> shadeslayer: I'm incined to agree; if that's the sole thing that's different, probably try turning it off
[17:12] <shadeslayer> draik_: so try installing knetwork manager....
[17:13] <draik_> 3 lines for the traceroute output. Ok to paste?
[17:13] <Parfet> i'm having a problem with my internal broadcom 4306 wifi card, knetwork manager and lshw report it as 'disabled'... how do i fix that?
[17:14] <rav> Parfet: do you have a wifi switch?
[17:14] <draik_> shadeslayer: Ok to paste the 3 lines here with my results of traceroute?
[17:15] <Parfet> switch? like a wifi router?
[17:15] <draik_> My connection just went from 24ms to 1s.
[17:15] <Parfet> i'm on the internet on my belkin usb, it works fine, but my internal doesn't
[17:16] <rav> Parfet: no, i mean an on/off switch. it happened to me that on an install, the card was turned off by default, even with the switch on. so i turned it off, then back on and checked 'dmesg | tail'. it said the card was on and it started working
[17:17] <Parfet> no, there is no hardware or bios switch on this old thinkpad
[17:17] <draik_> /msg shadeslayer
[17:17] <draik_> $ traceroute http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:17] <draik_> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com: Name or service not known
[17:17] <draik_> Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `http://us.archive.ubuntu.com' on position 1 (argc 1)
[17:17] <FloodBotK1> draik_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <draik_> That did not work out as intended. Sorry
[17:17] <p_quarles> draik_: traceroute us.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <p_quarles> http is a command, not part of the address
[17:18] <draik_> p_quarles: All hops are * * *
[17:18] <draik_> p_quarles: hops 1-30 are just * * *
[17:19] <rav> Parfet: i got a broadcom 43xx working with kubuntu intrepid, using the b43 kernel module. it worked pretty much out of the box. what release are you using?
[17:19] <kaddi> hi, i need help. once again. :/ I'm trying to run mathematica on a remote host. my system is jaunty, the remote host is debian. I log in with ssh -X and I can run other graphical applications fine, however when I start mathematica it says:xset:  bad font path element (#23), possible causes are: bad path, missing fonts.dir, wrong permissions. I used xset fp+ path & xset rehash to set the font path on both the host and my system, but I still
[17:19] <kaddi> get the messages. How do I fix that?
[17:19] <Parfet> at least, there is no 'switch' that i can find
[17:19] <kaddi> *xset fp rehash
[17:19] <Parfet> i'm on 9.04, with the latest updates
[17:20] <Kaprize>  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 NEW WEBSITE GAME,COME AND PLAY.
[17:21] <Parfet> and i'm relatively new to linux, but i'm learning quickly
[17:21] <toby_> Since installing KDE 4.3 my machine is occasionally dropping back to kdm - killing all graphical logins
[17:21] <toby_> Anyone else getting this?
[17:21] <rav> Parfet: can you see the card on System settings?
[17:22] <p_quarles> draik_: ping that address as well
[17:23] <Parfet> where? i see nothing about either wireless or my hardwire...
[17:24] <rav> Parfet: don't remember exactly where it is in KDE4, but you should have a Network Settings somewhere in System Settings
[17:25] <Parfet> i seen that, but nothing in there about cards
[17:27] <Parfet> hmmm, let me check my bios, and come back
[17:27] <rav> Parfet: there should be a tab with your network interfaces. make sure you're in administrator mode
[17:27] <Parfet> admin?...
[17:28] <Parfet> ummm..... how do i open it as admin/root?
[17:31] <Parfet> i know it has to do with kdesudo, but i see no where to specify that
[17:31] <jabans> :cirvis: Vçlos noîrçt Nicinâjuma Brunju,2aproces,vairogu. :feel:
[17:32] <rav> Parfet: again, i'm not sure on KDE4. KDE 3 has a button on system settings, that reads Administrator Mode
[17:34] <Freddy2> hi
[17:34] <rav> any thoughts on doing a fresh install, using a separate home partition with the stuff from the previous version?
[17:35] <Freddy2> on a fresh install of jaunty i have a screen-configurations.xml file on my home.. what is it? must be there? can be (re)moved?
[17:35] <Parfet> rav: i'm not finding any such switch...
[17:37] <p_quarles> Freddy2: do you use screen? if not, it can be removed safely
[17:37] <rav> Parfet: try 'ifconfig -a' on the console
[17:37] <Freddy2> ok, then i will remove it.. thx
[17:38] <Parfet> lots of greek for geeks... the two wifi cards read alot alike...
[17:40] <rav> Parfet: don't paste it here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:40] <b3ps> qualcuno italiano?
[17:40] <waltzingalong> b3ps: si ma
[17:40] <waltzingalong> !it | b3ps
[17:41] <pinselchen> Ahoy
[17:41] <DeadTreeHugger> hi, typically, is it normal for update-notifier-kde to take up 230-250MB of memory / 500 MB VSS?
[17:41] <b3ps> waltz tanks so much ^^
[17:42] <darthanubis> Why is it so hard to find a good system monitor widget that actually works?
[17:43] <darthanubis> There is like no network monitoring app in plasma?
[17:44] <waltzingalong> darthanubis: what would you like it to show?
[17:45] <darthanubis> First i'd like for one to exist
[17:45] <darthanubis> Then I'd like it to show what I asked above?
[17:45] <darthanubis> you know, like a system monitor?
[17:45] <darthanubis> Like gkrellm?
[17:46] <waltzingalong> darthanubis: i was under the impression that there were plenty of such widgets for kde4.x
[17:47] <darthanubis> I'm not working with impressions here.
[17:47] <darthanubis> I'd like some knowledgable comments on the subject if possible.
[17:47] <rav> i haven't used plasma yet. i always liked the monitors for superkaramba
[17:49] <waltzingalong> darthanubis: bubblemon? simple monitor? system load viewer? system monitor - cpu/hard disk/hardware info/network/ram? system monitor? which have you tried out thus far?
[17:49] <darthanubis> waltzingalong: tried them ALL
[17:49] <darthanubis> bubblemon is a joke of a toy
[17:50] <waltzingalong> well yeah it is a 'monitor'
[17:50] <waltzingalong> pretty much the point is just to look pretty
[17:50] <waltzingalong> so people can have fancy bars and such on their desktops
[17:50] <waltzingalong> right?
[17:50] <darthanubis> simple monitor another joke
[17:51] <darthanubis> system load viewer, sad
[17:51] <waltzingalong> system monitor?
[17:52] <darthanubis> system monitor cpu I use, but system monitor network is broken, and system monitor hard drives can't read LVMs
[17:52] <darthanubis> system monitor memory is broken because it is inaccurate
[17:53] <rav> if i do a fresh install with a separate /home partition, will data be overwritten?
[17:53] <darthanubis> no
[17:54] <waltzingalong> rav:  do not request that the /home partition be formatted
[17:54] <darthanubis> waltzingalong: Like I said, system monitors for us are dismal
[17:54] <monique> hi all, how do you add a new user in kubuntu 9.04
[17:54] <monique> ?
[17:54] <darthanubis> I wish gkrellm's themes would work with KDE
[17:54] <monique> it seems to be missing in the "system configuration" dialogs
[17:55] <darthanubis> monique: just type user in the search bar either alt-f2 or from the menu
[17:56] <monique> darthanubis, nothing appears
[17:57] <darthanubis> monique: well you've got bigger issues if you don't have kusers installed
[17:57] <monique> I have kusers installed, I just found how to launch it manually
[17:57] <monique> but it's not available from kde configuration manager
[18:00] <darthanubis> I guess I'm the only one using system widgets?
[18:01] <EagleScreen> probably yes
[18:01] <Parfet> well i have no idea, i can't get my internal wifi card to enable...
[18:02] <EagleScreen> which model, Parfet?
[18:05] <Parfet> eagle; BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller by Broadcom
[18:09] <EagleScreen> of, Parfet is it a LAN (cable) card ?
[18:10] <EagleScreen> forget it i must be drunked
[18:10] <EagleScreen> for broadcom you need wl driver
[18:11] <Parfet> wireless
[18:11] <EagleScreen> are you in 9.04, Parfet?
[18:11] <Parfet> yep
[18:11] <EagleScreen> wl driver is inside linux-restricted-modules package
[18:11] <EagleScreen> check you have it
[18:12] <Parfet> how?
[18:12] <EagleScreen> very new?
[18:12] <Parfet> yes, i barely understand linux, but i've been in computers since dos 6.22
[18:13] <martijn81> Parfet: just take your time, you will get used to it
[18:13] <EagleScreen> GNU/Linux install all using packages, you can see and manager packages using a package manager as like as kpackagekit (the default in kubuntu 9.04)
[18:13] <EagleScreen> K-Menu -> Applications -> System -> Kpackagekit
[18:14] <EagleScreen> then look for linux-restricted-modules package and check if it is installed
[18:14] <Parfet> kpackagekit keeps crashing, and when i added firefox it added the gnome set, or what i think is...
[18:15] <martijn81> Parfet: have you dist-upgraded your kde to 4.3?
[18:15] <martijn81> this should also upgrade kpackagekit
[18:15] <EagleScreen> yes, firefox has to be installed with "sudo aptitude -R install firefox-3.0" to avoid installing unecessary dependences on Gnome
[18:15] <Parfet> the rollback that was posted? not yet
[18:16] <martijn81> Parfet: yeah, see kubuntu.org for the details
[18:17] <EagleScreen> whay upgrade to kde 4.3 in jaunty?
[18:17] <EagleScreen> this can cause problems ans unstability
[18:18] <Parfet> i'm running 9.04 atm, with *most* of the updates
[18:19] <Parfet> the gui's are touchy, but i got apt-get to go get it
[18:20] <martijn81> EagleScreen: because there has been bugs cleaned
[18:21] <EagleScreen> Parfet: for your wireless card, have you tried Hardware Drivers manager? (jockey-kde)
[18:21] <Parfet> nope, is that something i add in also?
[18:22] <Parfet> and yes, i understand and like the .deb package system, that's why i've chosen this particular flavor
[18:23] <martijn81> i agree, debian has the best package system
[18:24] <Parfet> oh wait, the driver app i use for nvidia on my desktop? there was nothing listed in it
[18:25] <EagleScreen> Parfet: try the command: "sudo modprobe wl" and later pastebin us the output of "dmesg"
[18:25] <Parfet> but the restricted drivers are installing
[18:25] <blackizard> hello every one
[18:25] <martijn81> hi!
[18:25] <EagleScreen> linux-restricted-modules needs to be installed
[18:26] <blackizard> i 'm happy to have a kubuntu work fine now
[18:26] <darthanubis> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php
[18:26] <blackizard> but 'i don't understand why on JKDE 4.3 they have remove synaptics
[18:27] <blackizard> is there something similar to synaptic?
[18:28] <EagleScreen> synaptic package manager?
[18:29] <blackizard> yes please
[18:30] <martijn81> blackizard: yeah there is adept and kpackagekit
[18:30] <darthanubis> blackizard: just re add synaptic, whats the problem?
[18:30] <puneet> test
[18:30] <blackizard> oki oki
[18:30] <blackizard> thanks dudes
[18:30] <darthanubis> this is linux, we are free to use whatver app we have access to
[18:31] <EagleScreen> you can install synaptic in kububuntu without Gnome dependences by "sudo aptitude -R install synaptic"
[18:32] <EagleScreen> and with gtk-qt-engine you can set synaptic pretty beauty in KDE
[18:32] <theadmin> !purekde
[18:35] <blackizard> youuppiii
[18:35] <blackizard> Adep is working fine
[18:36] <blackizard> that's what i was looking for but i forgot the name
[18:36] <blackizard> ;)
[18:36] <martijn81> blackizard: i was not right here, there is no update for kpackagekit in the backports, see this-> http://pastebin.com/m3eccfd7c
[18:37] <blackizard> Bye guys and ladies
[18:37] <martijn81> have a nice day
[18:38] <blackizard> U 2
[18:45] <Parfet> ok... after all that i *appear* to have drivers for it, but it's still not 'up'...
[18:47] <martijn81> Parfet: what's your problem? internet connection not up?
[18:48] <Parfet> my internal wifi card won't activate, but my usb does... i've gotten the broadcom drivers, as near as i can tell, but it still won't come on
[18:49] <Parfet> i'm going to update kde, see if it makes a difference
[18:49] <martijn81> you should, but jockey-kde should list a driver for you
[18:50] <EagleScreen> Parfet: your card could not appear in jockey if modalises are not up to date, but it should work loading the wl kernel module by command "sudo modprobe wl", to confirm it works pastebin us the output od "dmesg" command
[18:51] <EagleScreen> Parfet: i think kde update has nothing to do with wireless driver
[18:51] <javi> hi everyone. I can't get nepomuk to work: it knows the tags I create, but they don't show when I search them with nepomuk:/hasTag:"anything here". Also, rattings aren't shared between gwenview and dolphin for example. Any ideas?
[18:53] <EagleScreen> javi: if you think it is a KDE bug, you could test te new KDE 4.3.0, that could be fixed
[18:53] <javi> mm sorry, i forgot to mention i'm in 4.3
[18:55] <Parfet> actually, that modprobe command gave me a link to another site, and i downloaded more drivers... it *appears* to work, says the radio is on, but " ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[18:56] <Parfet> the driverapp says the broadcom drivers are installed
[18:56] <Parfet> perhaps i need to actually restart?
[18:56] <javi> in other words, i can't do what this screencast shows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_wPbGQksnE
[18:59] <Freddy2> hi
[19:00] <Freddy2> anyone knows which are the files related to the scrollbar fix of firefox when you use gtk-qt-engine on kde4? i want to go back, without having to remove the whole profile
[19:01] <Guest65563> can i install gimp on kubuntu_
[19:01] <EagleScreen> Freddy2: it may be ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[19:01] <EagleScreen> yes, guest
[19:01] <Freddy2> ah, let me see
[19:02] <Freddy2> hmm i think it's not there, there's just some basic information
[19:03] <EagleScreen> Guest65563: what Kubuntu version?
[19:03] <Guest65563> the last version
[19:03] <Guest65563> 9.04
[19:03] <EagleScreen> Freddy2: then it must be inside ~/.mozilla
[19:04] <EagleScreen> Guest65563: K-Menu -> Applications -> System -> Software Management (KpackageKit), look for gimp in the list and select it for install
[19:04] <Guest65563> ok
[19:05] <Freddy2> i've found :)
[19:05] <Guest65563> thank you very much
[19:20] <Watson516> I am having troubles with a bunch of widgets (plasmoids?)...the error I get is "Script initialization failed"...any ideas?
[19:20] <Parfet> ok, i have drivers for my bcm4306, but it still says it's not ready...
[19:21] <EagleScreen> Parfet: use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste your dmesg output
[19:24] <Parfet> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/250441/
[19:26] <EagleScreen> Parfet: there are two posible drivers for your card, one is wl, and the other one is b43
[19:27] <Parfet> where is wl?
[19:27] <EagleScreen> wl is restricted by Broadcom, but it works probably better, b43 is free but it can not work for all devices
[19:27] <EagleScreen> it seems that you are trying to use b43
[19:28] <EagleScreen> Parfet: run a pair of commands and paste again the output of dmesg, ok?
[19:28] <Parfet> b43, by the download site, says it is compatible with my chipset, according to the lookup it had me try
[19:28] <EagleScreen> run "sudo modprobe -r b43" and "sudo modprobe wl"
[19:29] <EagleScreen> and paste dmesg
[19:33] <johnpunk> hello
[19:33] <johnpunk> I would like to change my keyboard settings in kubuntu
[19:33] <EagleScreen> johnpunk: what settings are you tallking aobut?
[19:34] <johnpunk> i need to change my keyboard to latin american layout
[19:35] <EagleScreen> K Menu -> Systemsettings -> Keboard & Mouse
[19:36] <EagleScreen> K-Menu -> Systemsettings -> Region & Language
[19:36] <Parfet> all it says, last line, is that the driver
[19:36] <Parfet> [ 1544.400531] wl: module license 'MIXED/Proprietary' taints kernel.
[19:36] <Chipaca> hi all. I want to reassign #401852 to the package that handles xdg_open in kubuntu. Any ideas?
[19:37] <Parfet> my browser is acting up, middle of kde update
[19:37] <johnpunk> EagleScreen - that is what I need, but, sorry, where is the K Menu
[19:37] <johnpunk> _
[19:37] <johnpunk> i saw it
[19:37] <johnpunk> thank you very much
[19:38] <EagleScreen> Parfet: paste demesg as soon as you can
[19:40] <ib-mobile> I seem to have missplaced the main panal at the bottom of the screen.  The one with the kmenu and system tray.  I'm not sure the exact conditions that caused it, but I suspect a 16 month old at the keyboad so anything is possible
[19:40] <ib-mobile> any idea how I get it back?
[19:42] <EagleScreen> ib-mobile: the panel is a widget, just add it again
[19:42] <EagleScreen> not, right-click and Add panel
[19:43] <ib-mobile> Can I add it with everything that it had or do I have to add them all back also?
[19:43] <EagleScreen> it depends
[19:44] <EagleScreen> how did you loose it?
[19:45] <ib-mobile> I think my 16 month old was the last to use the computer
[19:45] <theunixgeek> Are there any Kubuntu Live CDs with KDE 4.3?
[19:45] <Parfet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/250452/
[19:45] <g8tor> hello all
[19:46] <g8tor> what is the best way to get e17 onto a uibuntu system?
[19:46] <theunixgeek> g8tor: this isn't the right channel to ask that.
[19:47] <theunixgeek> g8tor: try #e
[19:47] <g8tor> oops my badd thanks
[19:47] <EagleScreen> theunixgeek: the karmic live CD, but it can be unstable
[19:48] <EagleScreen> Parfet: paste more than 3 lines
[19:49] <Parfet> you want the whole output?
[19:49] <EagleScreen> yes all output
[19:51] <theunixgeek> EagleScreen: thanks
[19:57] <Parfet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/250464/
[20:00] <M3rovingio> How is the kubuntu 9.04?
[20:00] <EagleScreen> Parfet: what happens now with your wifi?
[20:01] <Brhad56> the kubuntu 9.04 is good
[20:01] <Parfet> it still doesn't attempt to connect to anything...
[20:01] <M3rovingio> i use the debian lenny 5.0.2...
[20:01] <Parfet> in fact, now it is gone from the tray manager
[20:01] <EagleScreen> but do you see the wireless networks in network-manager applet?
[20:02] <Brhad56> Parfet: I fought and fought with wifi, only to findout that i was suppposed to be using the network-manger applet and not the knetworkmanger
[20:02] <Parfet> i have my usb belkin working, and it's signals, but now my broadcom has gone away completely
[20:04] <M3rovingio> ... but I will try installing it again to update on a lan-house, because I am without internet at home in linux ...
[20:04] <Brhad56> Parfet: are you using the propriatary broadcom driver?
[20:05] <neoboy> hi!
[20:05] <EagleScreen> Parfet: i think you should use the b43 ndriver instead
[20:06] <Parfet> no propriatory drivers are found anymore... and it *was* using b43 a min ago, until you told me to turn it off ;p
[20:06] <EagleScreen> Parfet: "sudo modprobe -r wl" and "sudo modprobe b43", be sure that you have the firmware .fw files mentioned in dmesg
[20:07] <Brhad56> I recommend the broadcom STA, because its what I got mine working with
[20:10] <Parfet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/250470/
[20:11] <Parfet> it shows up again, but i can't see that it is working...
[20:11] <Parfet> do i need to unhook the usb line first?
[20:13] <EagleScreen> Parfet: check you have the .fw firmware files and unplug your usb to see if integrated can see the nets
[20:15] <Parfet> where do i find them?
[20:20] <Parfet> i'm lost... i'm not finding anything with '.fw' on my disk...
[20:22] <Parfet> ok, i found them, and all 4 are there
[20:23] <Parfet> brb
[20:28] <Parf> still not getting any signals
[20:34] <EagleScreen> Parf: wait for better drivers
[20:55] <corigo> Can anyone give me any tips on removing Pulse and installing Jack?
[21:28] <blocktree> hi, why in the bash script I'm unable to store a PS1 value with oldPS1=$PS1, on the command line all works..thanks
[21:43] <trampel> blocktree: the folks at #bash would know better, but i think PS1 isn't 'defined' inside scripts ...maybe?
[21:45] <blocktree> trampel: yes you are right... thanks !!
[21:45] <trampel> yer welcome
[22:30] <epqr> Hi
[22:31] <epqr> my kubuntu 9.04 won't install .deb and .rpm packages
[22:31] <epqr> It just says an error occurred and then it crashes
[22:32] <ikonia> epqr: you shouldn't be installing rpm's
[22:32] <ikonia> epqr: rpm's are for redhat based systems as a general rule of thumb
[22:32] <epqr> OK why not ?
[22:33] <epqr> Ah ok, but it does allow me to start the installation ..?
[22:34] <ikonia> epqr: because some componets will be compatible, others won't
[22:35] <epqr> OK no i got an error message
[22:35] <epqr> Can anyone amke sense of this http://pastebin.ca/1523294
[22:37] <ikonia> epqr: you shouldn't be installing an rpm
[22:37] <ikonia> epqr: they are not intended for your system
[22:38] <ikonia> epqr: what are you actaully tyring to install
[22:38] <richie_> Hi. Anybody know how to remove some of the junk apps that have accumulated in my dolphin context menu?
[22:43] <epqr> ikonia its a .deb file ?
[22:43] <epqr> virtualbox 3.0
[22:49] <trampel> epqr: was the install file named virtualbox-ose....deb or ?
[22:49] <epqr> virtualbox-3.0_3.0.4-50677_Ubuntu_jaunty_amd64.deb
[22:51] <trampel> epqr: and your machine is a 64bit install?  what does "lsb_release -a" return?
[22:52] <epqr> trampel: http://pastebin.ca/1523316
[22:57] <trampel> epqr: well, i don't see why it didn't install for you, but mine installed no problem via "virtualbox-ose"  (ose: open source edition) (virtualbox-ose_2.1.4-dfsg-1ubuntu3 ...)
[23:00] <Sevis> Please note that the virtualbox package seems chronically outdated.
[23:03] <Novice> accidentaly removed bottom panel on jaunty how can i get it back?
[23:03] <Novice> or main panel
[23:08] <mrcognitive_> go to add / remove ( all programs ) search window nav
[23:08] <epqr> I did manage to isntall virtualbox 3.0 but im still having amjor issues with .deb packages
[23:09] <Novice> mrcognitive_: were you talking to me?
[23:10] <mrcognitive_> yeah , are you looking to re install your window nav bar ?
[23:10] <Novice> mrcognitive_: the bottom bar in kubuntu dont know what its called
[23:11] <Novice> mrcognitive_: were k-menu is and all that stuff is gone
[23:11] <sider> hi!
[23:11] <sider> is someone speak french??
[23:11] <Novice> mrcognitive_: whole bar missing
[23:12] <mrcognitive_> go to search all programs under add / remove programs , search avant window nav
[23:12] <mrcognitive_> its not the usual bar but at least you will have something . all ubuntu comes stock with it
[23:14] <Novice> mrcognitive_: i have cairo-dock installed
[23:14] <mrcognitive_> understood , but that is just a screenlet
[23:15] <Novice> mrcognitive_: but that still doesnt help me get k-menu and stuff back
[23:15] <epqr> where is the program dolpphin located ?
[23:16] <Sevis> Novice - add the application launcher as a widget to the desktop?
[23:16] <mrcognitive_> you mean wireshark ?
[23:16] <mrcognitive_> yeah , novice
[23:16] <sider>  i don't know how to find the earth (grey or green) which status about the wifi!!
[23:16] <Novice> Sevis: ty
[23:16] <mrcognitive_> np
[23:17] <celal> hi @ all
[23:19] <sider> someone can help me?
[23:19] <Novice> Sevis: do you know how to get a panel back on there?
[23:19] <Sevis> Not too sure, sorry.
[23:20] <Novice> Sevis: shouldnt be too hard if i knew were to look
[23:20] <celal> sider whats ur problem?
[23:20] <sider> thanks
[23:20] <sider> so
[23:21] <Sevis> Precisely, but I've never removed the bar.
[23:21] <Sevis> System -> System Settings?
[23:22] <mrcognitive_> are you trying to re add the panel that holds your icons , novice ?
[23:22] <celal> sider what happend now?
[23:22] <sider> normaly we have an icon in the bar at the bottom of the monitor : earth (grey or green) about the wifi (disconnected or disconnected)
[23:22] <mrcognitive_> sevis , i am trying to re install my sm bus controller with vga compatibility but ubuntu will not except fill . any ideas ?
[23:23] <sider> (sorry for my enblish very basic)
[23:23] <Sevis> Ehm, sorry... No idea.
[23:23] <celal> normaly yes and?
[23:23] <Sevis> Sider - run "knetworkmanager"
[23:23] <Novice> mrcognitive_: The bar at the bottom of the screen that holds everything such as k-menu taskbar is what i would call it but not sure what its called in linux?
[23:23] <sider> i try
[23:24] <Sevis> When my network settings break, I generally kick them until they fix themselves.
[23:24] <mrcognitive_> so you are talking about the dock bar that loads when you turn on your cpu ?
[23:24] <sider> thank you sevis
[23:24] <sider> thats it
[23:24] <Sevis> Ah, aha, no problem.
[23:25] <Novice> mrcognitive_: yes
[23:25] <mrcognitive_> i already told you how to do it
[23:25] <mrcognitive_> lol
[23:26] <Novice> mrcognitive_: reallt when and how?
[23:26] <mrcognitive_> wait .... i will follow the steps myself to insure i am ccorrect .
[23:27] <mrcognitive_> alright , go to add / remove . switch the search to all availible programs . search avant window navigator , install then re start your computer when it is installed
[23:27] <Novice> mrcognitive_: keep in mind i have no bar so its different i cant just right click and add a new bar
[23:28] <mrcognitive_> i am not sure , but you should not have to add this component into the start up file for your computer
[23:28] <Sevis> Novice! Found your answer :)
[23:28] <Novice> mrcognitive_: y do i want avant?
[23:28] <Sevis> Unlock the widgets on your plasma (right-top corner thing), then right-click your desktop.
[23:28] <mrcognitive_> well ... it looks cooler .. =D
[23:28] <Novice> Sevis: enlighten me plz
[23:28] <Sevis> This is KDE 4.2
[23:29]  * Sevis hopes it works...
[23:30] <Sevis> Tell me the result, please.
[23:30] <Novice> Sevis: then what there is no option to make new panel
[23:30] <Sevis> Have you unlocked widgets?
[23:30] <mrcognitive_> sevis , i changed from windows to ubuntu , and lost a driver in the process . i have found it , but linux will not except it . anyway to get around it ?
[23:30] <Novice> yes
[23:30] <Sevis> Ctrl+L, Novice... Hm, weird. Which KDE are you running?
[23:31] <Sevis> Need more info, mrcognitive_, sorry
[23:31] <Novice> Sevis: there is nothing on my desktop ecept the cashew on top right corner
[23:31] <Sevis> Indeed. Did you unlock the widgets there?
[23:32] <Novice> Sevis: yes
[23:32] <mrcognitive_> k ... worth a try . sevis do you know about IMVU ?
[23:32] <Sevis> Novice: Right click the desktop. What options?
[23:32] <Sevis> mrcognitive_: Nope.
[23:32] <Novice> Sevis: how can i tell which version of kde im running
[23:32] <Sevis> Does Alt+F2 work?
[23:33] <Sevis> Novice^
[23:34] <Novice> Sevis: no
[23:34] <Sevis> O.o
[23:34] <Sevis> No? Ehh...
[23:35] <Novice> Sevis: sry its taking me so long the computer im refering to is in another room
[23:35] <Sevis> No problem. Give me a minute.
[23:36] <Novice> this is crazy adding a taskbar should be such an easy task?
[23:36] <Sevis> It should. I think your KDE is seriously broken.
[23:36] <Novice> love linux but jeez
[23:36] <Sevis> Please list what options you have in the right-click drop-down menu.
[23:36] <mrcognitive_> hey ... do you have any panels on your main screen , novice ?
[23:37] <mrcognitive_> if you right click on the panel where your drop down is it should give you the option to creat a new
[23:37] <Sevis> He doesn't have any panels.
[23:37] <Sevis> Only a clear desktop.
[23:38] <Novice> create new/paste clipboard contents/icons/ refresh desktop/apperance settings and folder view settings
[23:38] <mrcognitive_> oh ....
[23:38] <Sevis> O_o
[23:38] <Sevis> Ah!
[23:38] <Sevis> Wait...
[23:38] <Novice> kk
[23:39] <Sevis> Please run 'kde4-config -v'
[23:39] <Novice> its my sons computer
[23:39] <Novice> how do i do that if i cant get to terminal?
[23:40] <Sevis> Ctrl+alt+f1
[23:40] <Sevis> Ctrl+alt+f7 to get back.
[23:41] <alid> Hi. Can anybody please help me understand the sound system in kubuntu 9.04?
[23:42] <Sevis> Alid - which system exactly? Pulse, ALSA?
[23:43] <Novice> Sevis: 4.2.2
[23:43] <Sevis> Novice, that's the same as me.
[23:43] <Sevis> But, I know your problem.
[23:43] <Sevis> You have a desktop widget spread out above your entire desktop, it seems.
[23:43] <alid> I think I have esound, Originally, I had pulse, but I had troubles with skype. I removed that and installed esound. Now I have a "master" slider and a "PCM" in Kmix, each acts separately. I don't understand the relationship between these two.
[23:44] <Novice> Sevis: no I ACCIDENTLY DELETED MY BOTTOM BAR
[23:44] <Sevis> Eh... As far as I understand:
[23:44] <Sevis> Novice: I know. And, in addition to that, you have a widget all over your desktop. A desktop widget.
[23:45] <Novice> Sevis: sry caps
[23:45] <Sevis> Alid: Master is volume, PCM is magnification.
[23:45] <Sevis> Novice: You can create files anywhere on the desktop, right?
[23:45] <Novice> Sevis: y would i have a widget all over my desktop?
[23:46] <alid> Sevis: Is there any way to sync these two together, such that when I push the button to decrease the volume on my laptop, both of them turn down together?
[23:46] <Sevis> Novice: Because it's convinient. Basically, it's like you've got a file browser open right over everything.
[23:46] <Sevis> Alid: That's not needed. Just set PCM to a convinient value and don't touch it, use Master.
[23:47] <Novice> Sevis: no clue fresh install just deleted my bar and need it back
[23:47] <Sevis> Is your desktop completely the same everywhere? Change the wallpaper if it isn't completely clear.
[23:48] <Sevis> Novice^
[23:48] <alid> Sevis: Aha. And what about the system beep? It's terrible. I want to disable it, but I don't really know how.
[23:48] <sider> disconnect the cable
[23:48] <Sevis> Alid: Does it come from your speaker or from your tower?
[23:48] <Novice> Sevis: dont understand what your trying to say
[23:49] <alid> Sevis: I've got a laptop. I think all of the sounds come from the speaker.
[23:49] <Sevis> Novice: Set the wallpaper to a plain white, and then run 'touch ~/Desktop/test'
[23:50] <alid> Sevis: And by the way, the system beep volume can be adjusted by Master, regardless of whatever I have on PCM.
[23:51] <Sevis> Alid: O_o Does your PCM affect other sounds? Very high PCM should make it sound like there's a disturbance.
[23:53] <alid> Sevis: Master affects all sounds; PCM is just the standard sounds come out of the media players, etc. But sometimes the sound come out of some applications don't care about the level of PCM, and they just listen to Master degree (like system beep, and some embedded sounds within web pages)
[23:54] <Novice> Sevis: touch command not found
[23:54] <Sevis> Alid: Then my old advice stands - put PCM to a reasonable level (70% or so), and just adjust master when necessary.
[23:55] <Sevis> Novice: Erm. O.o One second.
[23:55] <Sevis> Novice: Has that computer got internet?
[23:56] <Novice> Sevis: yes
[23:57] <alid> Sevis: I wish I could. My hardware volume control panel on my laptop that controls turing the volum up, down and mute just work with PCM. How can I change it so that it adjusts Master?
[23:58] <alid> Sevis: I mean, when I try to turn the volume down using buttons on my laptop, it adjusts PCM, instead of Master.
[23:58] <Sevis> Novice: Can't find what package touch should be in, sorry. Use mkdir instead, please.
[23:58] <Sevis> Alid: Have you checked the shortcuts config?
[23:58] <alid> Sevis: No. What is that?
[23:59] <Sevis> Alid: Dolphin -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts