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MDC2hi all01:11
MDC2i'd like some designer input from the window context menus in metacity and the tasklist01:12
MDC2today we have something like "min, max, move, resize, ontop, all workspaces, this workspace, move to [l|r|u|d] and close" in metacity and tasklist for a single window and "min, unmin, max, unmax and close" for a group of windows in the tasklist01:15
MDC2going thru the bugreports in libwnck, request have been made to have the Windows options "side by side + 2 more", "send to workspace X" and a "close all windows of this application"01:19
MDC2it seems like a good idea to take a look at this and see what we actually want i the menu and what's really being used and maybe put the other in an extended menu using a modifier such as Shift. As it looks now its to much clutter and adding more option won't make it better (design wise) - what do you think?01:22
MDC2For me Ialways on top01:31
MDC2ops01:31
MDC2what I wanted to say was I've almost never used always on top, visible on all/this workspace, and the moving to other workspace. When I move windows I use the workspace switcher or keyboard01:33
MDC2now off to sleep, will be back in about 9 hours..01:34
BHSPitLappyPssh, just copy Win701:58
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MDC2BHSPitLappy, I havent use win7 - how do they do?09:47
FLOZzHello all  _o/09:50
mac_vMDC2: what was the question? i didnt understand11:27
mac_vBTW always on top is a very useful feature11:27
MDC2mac_v, i think the window menu is to cluttered and many options are seldom used and a few bug reports wants to add additional entries. So I suggest creating an extended menu when using a modifier (eg shift) to bring up the "advanced" menu..11:32
mac_vMDC2: IMO , if there is clutter , reduce the options on the left icon menu to only minimize,maximize,close , BUT , retain all the present options on the window title bar.... is that possible?11:35
MDC2well, that would be possible (left-click versus right). But we also have the task bar.....11:35
mac_vactually IMO, there is no clutter , i at present use all the options fairly frequently everyday... the only option i dont use is the "Always visible workspace" ...11:38
MDC2also the one with moving to another desktop??11:38
mac_vMDC2: oh my god ...that is such a life saver... it is so useful to keep the workspace clean... that is my fav11:39
mac_vhelps me organize the workspace11:39
MDC2mac_v, yes, but i did't tought someone did that from the menu..11:39
mac_vMDC2:  it is quicker than dragging the window across the workspaces11:40
MDC2well, ok... i give up :-) how about this one http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480784 - will it add clutter or is it useful?11:40
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by Gnome: timed out (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/xml.cgi?id=480784)11:41
MDC2bugbot: Add "close all windows of this application" context menu entry of window-buttons11:41
mac_vMDC2: what are you working on now? have you been assigned that bug? or are you interested... that bug has been there for ~2 yrs11:42
MDC2mac_v, well I'm going thru the bugs :-) been doing some fixes of some of them :)11:42
MDC2if we don't wont them - i think it's better to close with wontfix...11:43
MDC2fixed this one yesterday; http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11724911:43
ubottuGnome bug 117249 in tasklist "Select multiple tasks in tasklist with Ctrl+LeftClick" [Enhancement,New]11:43
mac_vMDC2: hehe... ;) ... oh rather you can leave the wont fix to the main nautilus dev11:43
MDC2as you've said.. they been there for 2 years... I we want them I could fix a patch for them..11:44
MDC2s/I/If/11:44
mac_vMDC2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410636 interested ?11:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 410636 in hundredpapercuts "right click on Nautilus is confusing" [Undecided,New]11:44
mac_vMDC2: the first option is always selected when using the right-click but when this is opened by the keyboard menu button , no option is selected11:45
* MDC2 accidently created a folder...11:46
MDC2hmm11:47
mac_vMDC2: exactly the problem11:47
MDC2seems it depends of the theme11:47
MDC2I can reproduce in my virtual box but not on my desktop11:47
mac_vMDC2: desktop is karmic or jaunty?11:47
MDC2desktop - jaunty, virtual box - karmic11:48
MDC2I'll see what themes I'm using11:48
mac_vMDC2: i can reproduce this on Karmic... didnt happen in Jaunty 1 month ago.! but i cleared the .gnome , .config files and now it happens in jaunty too11:49
MDC2desktop - jaunty - gtk/Nodoka-Looks, metacity/GiloucheIM11:49
MDC2I think it has with either window borders or gtk borders..11:49
mac_vi think we of off topic in artwork.... someone is going to shout...11:50
mac_v;p11:50
mac_v#ayatana11:50
MDC2let's keep it quiet ;-)11:50
FLOZzHello all  _o/14:03
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FLOZzHello all  _o/16:24
* SiDi begins to believe FLOZz represents a good 50% of the channel's traffic just by saying hello.16:26
FLOZzSiDi: ^^'16:26
mac_vSiDi: i thought it was just an automated message every time FLOZz  entered ! ;p16:27
FLOZzmac_v: it's truc ^^ juste a small python script ^^'.......16:28
FLOZzs/truc/true/16:28
mac_vFLOZz: thats cheating... i felt bad not saying hi ! ;p16:28
SiDii shall write a script saying meh each time mac_v speaks. But he might take it badly :)16:28
mac_vSiDi: meh...16:29
mac_vi'd like one too ,16:29
FLOZzmac_v: I'm on many chans... so it's borring to say hello every time ^^'16:29
SiDiThat's why people stop saying hello after a while16:29
SiDiAnd you're only on 6 chans :D16:30
* mac_v wonders why SiDi has been silent for a while16:30
SiDimac_v: no internet16:30
FLOZzSiDi: on freenode yes16:30
SiDiand no wiling to speak16:30
mac_vlol16:30
SiDiand was on floss-holidays16:30
FLOZzbut I'm on otaku-irc.fr, worldnet, Geeknode,...16:30
SiDiHow dare you betray Freenode !16:31
FLOZzSiDi: >__<16:31
mac_vSiDi: i was watching 13Tzameti ... was the main lead a new actor or a well know before the movie?16:31
mac_vknown one*16:32
SiDiim too lazy to google 13tfoobar16:32
SiDiso i dont know16:32
mac_vSiDi: it was a french movie hence i asked you ;p16:33
mac_vwas quite a bit hit i believe16:33
SiDimac_v: are you sure of the spelling ?16:35
SiDii didnt even hear of it16:35
mac_vSiDi: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475169/16:36
mac_vyou probably were a baby when it was released [2k5] ;p16:37
SiDii wasnt born yet, mac_v, that's why17:32
mac_vdamn you SiDi ! you crashed my PA!17:33
mac_vcrappy karmic PA updates!17:33
* mac_v tired of reporting PA bugs 17:34
mac_vhehe... SiDi your ping has been a long time since i heard an xchat ping ;p17:35
SiDimac_v: switch to xubuntu18:01
SiDiwe dont use PA18:01
AnAntHello, is there any info on new GDM theming ?18:29
kwwiigood evening21:26
dashuaSiDi, Giving Exaile a shot.  Not bad. :)22:05

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