[01:11] <MDC2> hi all
[01:12] <MDC2> i'd like some designer input from the window context menus in metacity and the tasklist
[01:15] <MDC2> today we have something like "min, max, move, resize, ontop, all workspaces, this workspace, move to [l|r|u|d] and close" in metacity and tasklist for a single window and "min, unmin, max, unmax and close" for a group of windows in the tasklist
[01:19] <MDC2> going thru the bugreports in libwnck, request have been made to have the Windows options "side by side + 2 more", "send to workspace X" and a "close all windows of this application"
[01:22] <MDC2> it seems like a good idea to take a look at this and see what we actually want i the menu and what's really being used and maybe put the other in an extended menu using a modifier such as Shift. As it looks now its to much clutter and adding more option won't make it better (design wise) - what do you think?
[01:31] <MDC2> For me Ialways on top
[01:31] <MDC2> ops
[01:33] <MDC2> what I wanted to say was I've almost never used always on top, visible on all/this workspace, and the moving to other workspace. When I move windows I use the workspace switcher or keyboard
[01:34] <MDC2> now off to sleep, will be back in about 9 hours..
[01:58] <BHSPitLappy> Pssh, just copy Win7
[09:47] <MDC2> BHSPitLappy, I havent use win7 - how do they do?
[09:50] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[11:27] <mac_v> MDC2: what was the question? i didnt understand
[11:27] <mac_v> BTW always on top is a very useful feature
[11:32] <MDC2> mac_v, i think the window menu is to cluttered and many options are seldom used and a few bug reports wants to add additional entries. So I suggest creating an extended menu when using a modifier (eg shift) to bring up the "advanced" menu..
[11:35] <mac_v> MDC2: IMO , if there is clutter , reduce the options on the left icon menu to only minimize,maximize,close , BUT , retain all the present options on the window title bar.... is that possible?
[11:35] <MDC2> well, that would be possible (left-click versus right). But we also have the task bar.....
[11:38] <mac_v> actually IMO, there is no clutter , i at present use all the options fairly frequently everyday... the only option i dont use is the "Always visible workspace" ...
[11:38] <MDC2> also the one with moving to another desktop??
[11:39] <mac_v> MDC2: oh my god ...that is such a life saver... it is so useful to keep the workspace clean... that is my fav
[11:39] <mac_v> helps me organize the workspace
[11:39] <MDC2> mac_v, yes, but i did't tought someone did that from the menu..
[11:40] <mac_v> MDC2:  it is quicker than dragging the window across the workspaces
[11:40] <MDC2> well, ok... i give up :-) how about this one http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480784 - will it add clutter or is it useful?
[11:41] <MDC2> bugbot: Add "close all windows of this application" context menu entry of window-buttons
[11:42] <mac_v> MDC2: what are you working on now? have you been assigned that bug? or are you interested... that bug has been there for ~2 yrs
[11:42] <MDC2> mac_v, well I'm going thru the bugs :-) been doing some fixes of some of them :)
[11:43] <MDC2> if we don't wont them - i think it's better to close with wontfix...
[11:43] <MDC2> fixed this one yesterday; http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117249
[11:43] <mac_v> MDC2: hehe... ;) ... oh rather you can leave the wont fix to the main nautilus dev
[11:44] <MDC2> as you've said.. they been there for 2 years... I we want them I could fix a patch for them..
[11:44] <MDC2> s/I/If/
[11:44] <mac_v> MDC2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410636 interested ?
[11:45] <mac_v> MDC2: the first option is always selected when using the right-click but when this is opened by the keyboard menu button , no option is selected
[11:46]  * MDC2 accidently created a folder...
[11:47] <MDC2> hmm
[11:47] <mac_v> MDC2: exactly the problem
[11:47] <MDC2> seems it depends of the theme
[11:47] <MDC2> I can reproduce in my virtual box but not on my desktop
[11:47] <mac_v> MDC2: desktop is karmic or jaunty?
[11:48] <MDC2> desktop - jaunty, virtual box - karmic
[11:48] <MDC2> I'll see what themes I'm using
[11:49] <mac_v> MDC2: i can reproduce this on Karmic... didnt happen in Jaunty 1 month ago.! but i cleared the .gnome , .config files and now it happens in jaunty too
[11:49] <MDC2> desktop - jaunty - gtk/Nodoka-Looks, metacity/GiloucheIM
[11:49] <MDC2> I think it has with either window borders or gtk borders..
[11:50] <mac_v> i think we of off topic in artwork.... someone is going to shout...
[11:50] <mac_v> ;p
[11:50] <mac_v> #ayatana
[11:50] <MDC2> let's keep it quiet ;-)
[14:03] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[16:24] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[16:26]  * SiDi begins to believe FLOZz represents a good 50% of the channel's traffic just by saying hello.
[16:26] <FLOZz> SiDi: ^^'
[16:27] <mac_v> SiDi: i thought it was just an automated message every time FLOZz  entered ! ;p
[16:28] <FLOZz> mac_v: it's truc ^^ juste a small python script ^^'.......
[16:28] <FLOZz> s/truc/true/
[16:28] <mac_v> FLOZz: thats cheating... i felt bad not saying hi ! ;p
[16:28] <SiDi> i shall write a script saying meh each time mac_v speaks. But he might take it badly :)
[16:29] <mac_v> SiDi: meh...
[16:29] <mac_v> i'd like one too ,
[16:29] <FLOZz> mac_v: I'm on many chans... so it's borring to say hello every time ^^'
[16:29] <SiDi> That's why people stop saying hello after a while
[16:30] <SiDi> And you're only on 6 chans :D
[16:30]  * mac_v wonders why SiDi has been silent for a while
[16:30] <SiDi> mac_v: no internet
[16:30] <FLOZz> SiDi: on freenode yes
[16:30] <SiDi> and no wiling to speak
[16:30] <mac_v> lol
[16:30] <SiDi> and was on floss-holidays
[16:30] <FLOZz> but I'm on otaku-irc.fr, worldnet, Geeknode,...
[16:31] <SiDi> How dare you betray Freenode !
[16:31] <FLOZz> SiDi: >__<
[16:31] <mac_v> SiDi: i was watching 13Tzameti ... was the main lead a new actor or a well know before the movie?
[16:32] <mac_v> known one*
[16:32] <SiDi> im too lazy to google 13tfoobar
[16:32] <SiDi> so i dont know
[16:33] <mac_v> SiDi: it was a french movie hence i asked you ;p
[16:33] <mac_v> was quite a bit hit i believe
[16:35] <SiDi> mac_v: are you sure of the spelling ?
[16:35] <SiDi> i didnt even hear of it
[16:36] <mac_v> SiDi: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475169/
[16:37] <mac_v> you probably were a baby when it was released [2k5] ;p
[17:32] <SiDi> i wasnt born yet, mac_v, that's why
[17:33] <mac_v> damn you SiDi ! you crashed my PA!
[17:33] <mac_v> crappy karmic PA updates!
[17:34]  * mac_v tired of reporting PA bugs 
[17:35] <mac_v> hehe... SiDi your ping has been a long time since i heard an xchat ping ;p
[18:01] <SiDi> mac_v: switch to xubuntu
[18:01] <SiDi> we dont use PA
[18:29] <AnAnt> Hello, is there any info on new GDM theming ?
[21:26] <kwwii> good evening
[22:05] <dashua> SiDi, Giving Exaile a shot.  Not bad. :)