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willmHi,04:00
willmI am new to the bugzapper team04:00
dtchenwillm: welcome04:35
willmhi, I just joined the bugzapper team a couple of hours ago and thought I would stop by here04:35
dtchenthis channel'll probably lie dormant for a couple hours04:36
willmI come from Fedora where I was a bug person there but I haven't done it for a little while04:37
willmok04:37
willmwhile*04:37
dtchenmostly it's the weekend hours, and people are returning from the platform sprint in dublin04:38
willmthat isn't a big deal i understand04:39
willmI didn't expect too many folks to be on here on the weekend04:39
dtchenmicahg: beep depends on the hardware - it can be driven by pcspkr, snd-pcsp, snd-hda-beep04:39
dtchenmicahg: so, lots of room for confusion/error04:39
dtchenmicahg: note that in the latest upload of module-init-tools in karmic, pitti blacklisted pcspkr04:40
dtchen(which is insufficient IMO)04:40
micahgpcspkr did it04:40
micahgI didn't want to ask you in here dtchen04:40
micahgbut thanks04:41
dtcheni have highlights for keywords04:41
micahgdtchen: can I talk to you about bug 28371804:52
ubot4Launchpad bug 283718 in flashplugin-nonfree "Installing adobe-flashplugin alongside flashplugin-nonfree fails" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28371804:52
dtchensec04:53
micahgoh, I need to talk to asac about it04:53
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dtchenmicahg: i think the best course of action is for the adobe-flashplugin source to be altered05:02
micahgto do what?05:06
micahgconflict?05:06
dtchenit really should C+R, as my last comment recommends05:07
micahgso why was it won't fix?05:07
micahgis that the current plan?05:07
micahgfor adobe-flashplugin to replace flashplugin-installer?05:07
dtchenmicahg: the current plan is that they're parallel-installable05:15
dtchenmicahg: at least that's the way the respective source packages read05:15
dtchenmicahg: in which case it's really moot, and the bug status is correct as either wontfix or fixreleased05:15
micahghow can that be?05:20
micahgthey are the same plugin are they not?05:20
dtcheninstall to different locations, so technically (by Policy) there's no reason to Conflicts05:27
micahgyes, but firefox doesn't like both of them05:35
dtchentechnically they should Breaks each other05:36
micahgdtchen: what do you mean?05:39
dtchenmicahg: both source packages should be amended to have Breaks05:39
* micahg doesn't understand what that means...05:40
dtchenadobe-flashplugin should Breaks: flashplugin-installer, and vice versa05:40
micahgah05:40
micahgexcellent05:40
micahgcan I open a bug for that?05:40
dtchengo for it05:40
micahgbug 41093505:42
ubot4Launchpad bug 410935 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree should break adobe-flashplugin and vice-versa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41093505:42
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BUGabundobom dia12:24
BUGabundohey ogra12:42
kklimondahow to get a list of local packeges? i.e. packages that aren't from any repository13:28
BUGabundosynapic does it13:29
BUGabundoand so does aptitude13:29
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lfaraoneHey, can someone assist me in debugging bug 409001? I don't think this is a problem in the package. as xcb_io.c isn't part of python-gasp.19:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 409001 in python-gasp "begin_graphics crashes python shell" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40900119:10
* matti pokes Laney 19:10
Laneysup19:10
Laneysee the topic!19:10
Laneyget triagin'19:10
mattiSir yes sir!19:11
s3r3n1t7Every so many minutes a 4 will be typed, a literal 4. It is not caused by a broken keyboard and it also occurs on the liveCD. Windows does not have this problem.21:13
BUGabundos3r3n1t7: hi21:24
BUGabundothis channel is not for user support21:24
BUGabundoplease visit #ubuntu21:24
BUGabundoor #ubuntu+1 for devel versions (like karmic)21:24
BUGabundothanks21:24
s3r3n1t7BUGabundo: I've been directed here from #ubuntu by Flannel.21:25
BUGabundoerr21:25
BUGabundowell no, not here21:25
FlannelHe's asking what sort of stuff to include in the bug report21:25
Flannelor, that's what I directed him here for, anyway.21:25
BUGabundook, lets give him a try21:25
BUGabundos3r3n1t7: what's the prob?21:25
s3r3n1t7Ah. so i misunderstood the intention then Flannel. My bad. Right, so what to include in it?21:26
BUGabundoits the '4' ?21:26
BUGabundowithout any other data, that would sound like faulty hw21:26
s3r3n1t7BUGabundo: the problem is that 4 is typed every few minutes for no reason. Even without keyboard, without any software running, single under mode, still does it. Windows however, does not.21:26
BUGabundobut since you state it doesn't happen on wind21:26
s3r3n1t7BUGabundo: leading me to believe it's somewhat related to ubuntu.21:26
BUGabundowhat version is this ?21:27
BUGabundoand where is this '4' typed?21:27
s3r3n1t7the latest, i believe that would be 9.04.3. A near fresh install.21:27
s3r3n1t7where ever i leave my cursor.21:27
s3r3n1t7it feels like it's send on the keyboard input channel, as when i play WoW it tries to use the ability bound to the 4.21:28
BUGabundothere is no such version21:28
BUGabundoI'll assume 9.0421:28
s3r3n1t79.04, third major updated.21:28
BUGabundounless the .3 is meant to be from Mint !21:28
s3r3n1t7no, clean ubuntu.21:28
BUGabundono s3r3n1t7 there is no 3rd update to jaunty21:28
BUGabundoonly 8.04 had that21:29
BUGabundodo you mean 8.04 ?21:29
BUGabundoHardy ?21:29
s3r3n1t7ah. My bad there then. No, this is jaunty (just confirmed)21:29
BUGabundos3r3n1t7: please open a terminal and type lsb_release -a21:29
BUGabundowhat does that give you ?21:29
s3r3n1t7I have. It shows Jaunty. (this is how i confirmed it just a second ago)21:30
s3r3n1t7Release: 9.04 Codename: jaunty21:30
BUGabundook21:30
BUGabundothose this only happen on that game?21:31
s3r3n1t7No, the game was an example to show that it isn't related to just text. It will type a 4 where ever that my cursor is, be it text or anything else.21:31
BUGabundovery strange21:32
BUGabundodid you search on launchpad?21:32
s3r3n1t7I have, but not found a similar or related bug.21:32
BUGabundohumm21:33
BUGabundoI don't recall a proper package to file it against21:33
s3r3n1t7Good old google also left me down on this one, leaving me rather helpless.21:33
BUGabundowould you care to run a livecd/usb of karmic ?21:33
s3r3n1t7would you please explain what karmic is? I haven't heard of it. As long as it doesn't break stuff, sure.21:34
s3r3n1t7Ah, i see. Karmic is the new codename of Ubuntu 9.10?21:35
BUGabundoyes21:36
s3r3n1t7Do you have a download link at hand? If not, i'll find one.21:36
BUGabundoif you could get an iso, and burned it or put on an USB key, and test, it would help21:36
BUGabundoof course21:37
BUGabundo!daily21:37
ubot4Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/21:37
s3r3n1t7I'll burn it and test it.21:37
BUGabundosee daily-live21:37
BUGabundothanks21:37
s3r3n1t7Ok, give me 2 seconds to switch irssi back to the right pc.21:37
BUGabundoplease open a bug, lets make it to the kernel, and keep it updated21:37
BUGabundos3r3n1t7: run on a cli: ubuntu-bug linux21:37
BUGabundothanks21:37
s3r3n1t7I assume I have to run that on the Karmic version?21:38
s3r3n1t7I'll try my best.21:38
s3r3n1t7Downloading atm, ETA is 6 minutes.21:38
BUGabundono21:44
BUGabundorun on jaunty21:44
BUGabundosince there's where you have the bug s3r3n1t721:44
BUGabundos3r3n1t7: also when you do, sub me to it, so I can track the bug21:45
s3r3n1t7BUGabundo: running that now then.21:45
s3r3n1t7Not entirely sure how to describe the bug. "4 being typed without typing" ?21:46
BUGabundoeheh21:47
BUGabundoI know21:47
BUGabundoits strange21:47
BUGabundoit would be great if you could reproduce it on other HW21:47
BUGabundolike, have you changed keyboard?21:47
BUGabundoused that on another pc?21:47
s3r3n1t7I use a G15, which i use between 2 PC's and a laptop. Only this PC has this issue, persistant between reinstallations of Ubuntu.21:48
s3r3n1t7Happens with other keyboard (and no keyboard) as well21:48
s3r3n1t7though ... the description ... Typing is happening without typing <== something like that?21:48
BUGabundowait, NO KEYB?21:48
s3r3n1t7yes even without keyboard21:49
BUGabundostate that on the bug, please21:49
s3r3n1t7will do21:49
BUGabundoI still believe its faulty HW21:49
BUGabundomaybe a bad controler21:49
s3r3n1t7It has me wondering why windows doesn't have the same problem.21:49
BUGabundowhere the wind drivers ignores it21:49
BUGabundopretty comon21:49
BUGabundowind is more permissive21:49
s3r3n1t7Might be ... though I'd think Ubuntu would be more able to handle it.21:50
s3r3n1t7https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/41115421:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 411154 in linux "Typing is happening without typing" [Undecided,New]21:57
s3r3n1t7would you be so kind to take a look?21:57
BUGabundoI will21:57
s3r3n1t7I just subscribed you to it (assuming that's what you asked for earlier)21:58
BUGabundoplease edit and stat this happens on LiveCd21:58
BUGabundoand doesn't on Wind21:58
BUGabundoI already did sub to it21:59
s3r3n1t7ok.21:59
s3r3n1t7Changed.22:00

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