[00:54] <spO> is some special action needed if i installed a 2.6.30 kernel on a 2.6.28 system ?
[00:55] <dtchen> no, why?
[00:56] <spO> my system is not loading
[00:56] <spO> i guess it is because of my video card driver then
[00:56] <spO> ie, it is not installed correctly
[00:57] <spO> is there a way to go into console rather than desktop mode     at booting time?
[00:57] <dtchen> it should fall back to that automagically.
[01:01] <dtchen> if it doesn't, choose the rescue option in the boot loader
[01:04] <spO> i am using my old kernel now
[01:04] <spO> i installed a new kernel 2.6.30  over a 2.6.28 system
[01:04] <spO> but it doesn't boot right
[01:13] <spO> dtchen
[01:13] <spO> if i use a custom kernel
[01:13] <spO> that means my ati drivers will not work, right
[01:14] <spO> but how can i compile new ati drivers unless i run the kernel
[01:14] <spO> and how can i use the kernel if ati drivers dont work
[01:14] <dtchen> it means you likely need to recompile them, assuming you're using the dkmsized ones
[01:14] <dtchen> make sure you have kernel headers for your new 2.6.30 installed, too
[01:15] <dtchen> anyhow, this discussion isn't kernel development-related. i'm happy to help you in another channel or private message.
[01:38] <spO> what channel talks about custom kernel?
[01:38] <spO> #ubuntu has people who never made a custom kernel mostly
[01:39] <dtchen> as in user-created custom kernels? none, really. some people will help in #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1
[01:40] <spO> the problem with my new kernel happens when i it tries to mount my disk drive,    the whole disk by uuid does not work well or i didn't configure something
[01:40] <spO> i will try to compile a new kernel
[01:52] <spO> what are headers exaclty>?
[01:59] <spO> what did you mean when you said  dkmsized  ?
[02:11] <spO> is there a list of information about each kernel option in detail?
[04:21] <spO> so i tried to run a kernel that does not have journal file system  support, but i guess ubuntu doesn't like that , ie it won't run.... Why does ubuntu use journal file system anyways??    I don't want to create a journal nor do i need a whole file system to do that.
[05:10] <spO>  JFS was not made for being a OS fs , why is it being used for that now... people cannot create something that is more effective or efficent?
[08:58] <spO> If i make a custom kernel, such as kernel 2.6.30-4   , how do i install ATI drivers for that kernel? they are not working right for me
[19:39] <bjsnider> i thought ben collins headed the kernel team, but on the wiki page it says someone else does
[20:12] <ScottK> bjsnider: He did, but pgraner does now.  No idea why.