[00:03] <neversfelde> hehe
[00:03] <neversfelde> ScottK: sorry, I couldn't ping you yesterday because of that backport request
[00:03] <ScottK> No problem.  What bug was it?
[00:05] <neversfelde> ScottK: something about kontrolpack, I wrote it for Harald. one moment
[00:07] <neversfelde> ScottK: it was bug 409966
[00:08] <ScottK> neversfelde: Acked.
[00:09] <neversfelde> ScottK: thank you
[00:09] <ScottK> No problem.
[00:24] <claydoh> Is it possible to build a kde3-based package (kmymoney2) and have the documentation/help be visible in the kde help center?
[02:14]  * seele is back!
[02:14] <seele> (have been for about an hour.. but had to hear about the crazy bachelor party)
[02:14] <maco> wb
[02:14] <maco> justin's?
[02:14] <seele> yeah
[02:15] <seele> apparently his friend made and got into some trouble
[02:15] <maco> i suspected most soon-to-be-wives wouldnt want to hear about their soon-to-be-husband's bachelor party
[02:15] <seele> unfortunately he was also the driver so they had to keep tabs on him
[02:15] <seele> ah, i dunno.. he had a good time except for babysitting his friend
[02:16] <seele> ugh.. need dinner.. back again later
[03:55] <EagleScreen> hello
[03:57] <EagleScreen> I think the touchpad is extremely sensitive in Kubuntu, sometimes it interpretes a mouse click when I want to drag the pointer, in Ubuntu (Gnome) this does not happen. Do you think this is good for papercut?
[03:59] <ScottK> Not particularly.
[03:59] <EagleScreen> then any solution to control/configure this in Kubuntu?
[04:01] <ScottK> Isn't there a KControl for that?
[04:02] <EagleScreen> i think not
[04:02] <EagleScreen> at leats i haven't find it
[04:03] <EagleScreen> at least, I haven't found it
[04:09] <ScottK> Nope.  Just acceleration and stuff.  Not touch sensitivity.
[04:11] <EagleScreen> i am going to try with gsynaptics
[04:22] <maco> er i doubt gsynaptics will work
[04:22] <maco> i heard recently that shmconfig was gone
[05:51] <_Sime> I'm about to go on vacation guys.. (2.5 weeks).
[05:53] <ScottK> _Sime: Enjoy.
[05:55] <_Sime> thanks
[05:55] <_Sime> gotta go
[10:08] <micmord> how can I put karmic-netbook.iso on a usb key? usb-creator hangs hal.
[10:10] <Riddell> micmord: use usb creator from jaunty or wait for the karmic one to be fixed
[10:14] <micmord> usb-creator on karmic is a mess
[10:25] <davmor2> micmord: try imagewriter
[10:25] <davmor2> micmord: it might suffer from the same issue but hopefully not
[10:27] <davmor2> micmord: sorry it only covers .img files
[10:52] <a|wen-dtu> micmord, there is a wiki article about it with a link to a shell-script iso-stick.sh that has worked well for me until now (though it needs a small fix to work in jaunty)
[10:56] <micmord> allee-k: found it, thanks https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:57] <micmord> a|wen-dtu: sorry, bad typo
[10:58] <a|wen-dtu> micmord, exactly that one
[11:03]  * micmord trying UNetbootin
[11:13]  * micmord trying karmic-netbook-i386.iso :-)
[11:21] <Riddell> micmord: let me know if it boots up
[11:21] <smarter> heya
[11:21] <Riddell> hi smarter
[11:21] <micmord> Riddell: it works
[11:21] <Riddell> phew
[11:22] <micmord> Riddell: but it's seems a regular kubuntu :-P
[11:23] <smarter> with smaller fonts :p
[11:23] <micmord> s/it's/it/
[11:23] <smarter> if you want real different stuff, try plasma-netbook
[11:23] <micmord> ok
[11:23]  * micmord trying it on a asus eeepc 901
[13:44] <dpm> Riddell: hi, I'm trying to use an additional bug tag for all translation bugs in Kubuntu. Is there an already defined one I could reuse? 'kubuntu-bug', 'kubuntu' or something similar?
[14:17] <Riddell> dpm: I don't think we have one currently
[14:20] <Riddell> agateau: do we have an irc talk to do today?
[14:20] <agateau> Riddell: ?
[14:23] <Riddell> agateau: no it's ages away, for some reason I thought it was today
[14:23] <agateau> Riddell: oh you were thinking about UDW?
[14:23] <Riddell> yes
[14:24] <agateau> ok
[14:32] <allee-k> Riddell: will there ever be 8.04.3 kubuntu isos?
[15:07] <Trouble-> Does the weather wallpaper in KDE 4.3 work for anyone? It simply doesn't do anything other than display the default Air wallpaper for me on two different network connected machines. The Weather Forecast and LCD Weather Station widgets work fine.
[15:09] <a|wen-dtu> allee-k: i'm pretty sure, no ... as kubuntu 8.04 goes EOL this october
[15:17] <seele> Riddell: you know after all that, i went and invited you as a friend on opendesktop and you STILL havent accepted me!
[15:43] <Riddell> seele: well, that would take effort :)
[15:44] <seele> i see how it is
[15:44]  * seele cries
[15:47] <bmunger> wonder when akregator will get fixed
[16:05] <maco> bmunger: does your kaddressbook work?
[16:05] <maco> your akregator's broken, but mine works. my kaddressbook lost my entire address book last week.
[16:06] <maco> (all 3 of 'em!)
[16:07] <bmunger> it appears to work, i dont use it though
[16:07] <bmunger> i dont understand how akregator can work for others if it is broken on two different machines running up to date karmic
[16:17] <ScottK> Try creating a new user and see if it works for that user.
[16:17] <Riddell> seele: we're friends!
[16:40] <maco> hmm i wonder if ext4 is why my addressbook got lost...
[17:02] <valgaav> @maco : depends on the kernel version ... with 2.6.30  ext4 is very stable for me, but with 2.6.28 is had issues.
[17:02] <valgaav> s/is/it
[17:10] <maco> valgaav: im on 2.6.31
[17:11] <maco> and i know its supposed to be stable, but its the only reason i can think of for akonadi to lose my address books
[17:12] <valgaav> dunno then, no such problems on 2.6.30 for me , but maybe there is some regresion in 2.6.31
[17:34] <ghostcube> hmm is there any decision about the lm sensors merge with debian unstable ?
[17:34] <ghostcube> i cant find the merged deb files
[17:36] <Riddell> what's the question?
[17:37] <Riddell> rgreening: did you see kwwii did the usb-creator icon?
[17:37] <rgreening> I saw a commit to the package but haven't seen the icon yet
[17:40] <rgreening> Riddell: looks cool
[17:40] <rgreening> just update my branch
[17:40] <rgreening> I just updated... I mean
[18:55] <Riddell> ScottK: do you know iaf kubuntu-netbook is built from universe?
[18:55] <ScottK> Riddell: It's not currently.
[18:55] <ScottK> Riddell: I don't think plasma-netbook works well enough to go on the ISO yet anyway.
[18:55] <djsiegel2> seele: ping
[18:56] <djsiegel2> seele: can I milestone any paperkuts?
[18:56] <seele> djsiegel2: anything in progress or better
[18:56] <djsiegel2> I am writing some blog posts and would be happy to mention some kubuntu ones
[18:56] <djsiegel2> ok!
[18:56] <djsiegel2> great
[18:56] <seele> i think there were a few we released fixes for
[18:56] <seele> maco did a lot of work for the abort label one
[18:57] <djsiegel2> is that one r4?
[18:57] <maco> bug 399155 maybe?
[18:57] <maco> ok that was one of 'em
[18:58] <Riddell> ryanakca__: have you seen the "Kubuntu upgrade process " thread on kubuntu-devel?  could you do what it asks?
[18:58] <maco> i forget the abort bug #
[18:58] <ryanakca__> Riddell: in regards to the GPG keys? That's what I'm doing ATM...
[19:00] <ryanakca__> Riddell: see http://www.kubuntu.org/faq/PPA-keys
[19:00] <ryanakca__> I'll update the articles with the two commands and a link to that page for people who would rather do it graphically.
[19:01] <ryanakca__> Riddell: or should I add both the CLI and the graphical options to the page and just link to it from the articles?
[19:12] <djsiegel2> seele: http://edge.launchpad.net/~papercutters please join
[19:16] <djsiegel2> seele: once you join, you should be able to milestone papercuts
[19:16] <djsiegel2> please arrange them as you see fit
[19:24] <seele> djsiegel2: need approved
[19:31] <maco> seele: he delegated someone to approve you
[19:31] <seele> maco: i see i'm approved now, cool
[19:33] <seele> is Artemis_Fowl fixing kgrubeditor for karmic?
[19:35] <seele> still not sure how to set milestone
[19:39] <maco> seele: clcik the down arrow to the left of where it says it affects HundredPaperCuts then there should be Status/Importance/Milestone drop downs
[19:41] <seele> maco: ah hah.. thanks
[19:42] <maco> i think 5 just ended last week
[19:42] <maco> dj's blogging about those and the "here's what 6 will be" since they get more attention AFTER he blogs that theyve missed their milestone date
[19:43] <maco> the hope being if he blogs before the milestone date, they get done on time
[19:59] <davmor2> ScottK: I'll be playing with UNR and KNR tomorrow mostly anything special to keep an eye out for?
[20:00] <ScottK> davmor2: wubi didn't work at all for Alpha 3.  That should be fixed and needs testing.
[20:00] <ScottK> davmor2: Also OEM mode never got tested for Alpha 3, so that's worth a close look.
[20:02] <maco> davmor2: knE!
[20:02] <ScottK> maco: Yes.  Good point.
[20:04] <davmor2> ScottK: Meh I'm loathed to spend the 3 1/2 hours installing windows and then another 6hours updating it just to try wubi :)  But hey I might try a usb install of clonezilla after to save that hassle again
[20:05] <ScottK> davmor2: Someone needs to test it and my Windows install died in Alpha 3 testing.
[20:05] <davmor2> maco: What, what? You've decide on a final name for it then
[20:05] <ScottK> davmor2: That's been the name all along.
[20:05] <maco> its always been edition, not remix
[20:05] <davmor2> Ah
[20:05] <davmor2> okay
[20:05] <ScottK> Some people just assume that because Ubuntu can't manage to get all their stuff into the archive for a first release, Kubuntu won't either.
[20:06] <maco> haha
[20:06] <ScottK> Admittedly our job is much easier for coming after them.
[20:23] <maco> haha a fedora user was trying to help an ubuntu user switch from ubuntu to kubuntu but didnt know about metapackages so went to #fedora and asked what the ubuntu version of "yum groupinstall" is
[20:26] <slacker_nl> lol
[20:27] <slacker_nl> against which component should I log logout/shutdown/reboot issues?
[20:27] <maco> they said no ubuntu questions allowed and helper said #ubuntu was being unhelpful
[20:27] <maco> im guessing most people in #ubuntu dont know yum well enough to know groupinstall
[20:28] <ghostcube> yum yum -_-
[20:28] <slacker_nl> tbh, i never played with yum..
[20:33] <maco> nixternal_: why is #ubuntu-us-il empty? i was about to point the new ubu->kubu conver there
[20:33] <maco> *convert
[20:33] <ghostcube> anyone knows about this here and if there are already compiled packages available cause the ppa hasent them anymore https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lm-sensors-3/+bug/389031
[20:33] <maco> i only know groupinstall because i did system engineering last year on centos stuff
[20:38] <ScottK> maco: I'd send them to #kubuntu.  They are generally helpful there.
[20:38] <maco> yeah i told him that for future reference, but im helping him pm right now
[20:38] <maco> kubuntu packages are almost done downloading
[20:39] <maco> i thought telling him about the IRL loco might be good too though
[20:44] <nixternal_> maco: it is supposed to forward them to #ubuntu-chicago
[20:45] <maco> nixternal_: yeah apparently its  not -us-il, its -illinois
[20:50] <nixternal_> oh
[20:51] <ScottK> So apparently not all roads lead to Chicago.
[20:51] <nixternal_> guess not
[20:51] <nixternal_> damn that route 66
[20:52] <slacker_nl> no one can tell me which kde component is responsible for the login/logout/shutdown options?
[20:56] <ScottK> slacker_nl: What's the issue (it kind of depends)?
[20:56] <slacker_nl> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/410466 < want to create this bug upstream as well
[20:58] <ScottK> slacker_nl: OK.  Gave it my best shot.
[21:00] <slacker_nl> sorry?
[21:01] <slacker_nl> ic
[21:01] <slacker_nl> found out the component based on the kde bugtracker
[21:02] <slacker_nl> as a normal user I cannot create a link against kde bug tracker or can i?
[21:07] <maco> slacker_nl: sure. click "also affects project" ... i think...
[21:07] <maco> then give it the link to bugs.kde.org
[21:08] <slacker_nl> check
[21:09] <slacker_nl> it then asks for a project
[21:09] <slacker_nl> but it now has something at bug watcher, with a link and I placed a comment with a link to kde
[21:35] <larsivi> is there something kde in karmic that is able to connect to wireless?
[21:36] <maco> knetworkmanager
[21:36] <maco> i think most of us are using /etc/network/interfaces
[21:37] <ghostcube> yeah cause network manager isnt really the best :D
[21:37] <maco> since the plasmoid nm thingy was fail on wpa2 in jaunty and is equally fail on wpa and wep in karmic
[21:38] <larsivi> the plasmoid worked great for wpa2 for me in jaunty
[21:39] <valgaav> wicd is another option , non kdeish though
[21:40] <larsivi> knetworkmanager doesn't do anything useful upon clicking the ssid, but I wonder if I got the kd3 version (?)
[21:44] <ScottK> larsivi: KDE3 one is broken too.
[21:44]  * ScottK uses ifup/ifdown.
[22:13]  * Lure is not happy with firefox 3.5 again pulling in half of gnome ;-(
[22:14] <Unksi> Lure: use --no-install-recommends when installing it
[22:14] <Lure> Unksi: I did, but it is not what I want to do
[22:14] <Lure> Unksi: for firefox 3.0 this was fixed (I think ubufox depended on gnome)
[22:29] <Lure> ScottK: remind me: is it possible to grab source package that is stuck in debian NEW queue?
[22:30]  * Lure does not find it now...
[22:36] <a|wen> Lure: nope
[22:36] <a|wen> :(
[22:46] <Lure> a|wen: :-(
[22:46] <Lure> fabo: do you have http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/akonadi-googledata_1.0-1.html somewhere, so that I can test it in Ubuntu?
[23:24] <Riddell> I had a request to package Dooble if anyone wants to take it on, bug 398575