[00:00] sevis , when you have the chance before leaving . i would like to ask one last question , please ? [00:00] Sevis: It doesn't have any configs with respect to volume for me. [00:01] Mrcognitive_: I may not be going for another hour or two - feel free to ask whenever :) [00:01] sweet ! [00:01] Alid: Scroll down ;) [00:02] Alid: Hmm... Dunno, actually. Let me see a little more. [00:03] i think this question maybe very simple . i have currently found wireshark in my programs and added it . i think i am using a wifi considering i am connected to linksys and all .when i try to do a capture of packets it asks for a specific capture comand but when i go to the capture comands there are no options . [00:03] Sevis: Aha! I found it in in System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts. [00:04] Alid: Aha, hopes that fixes it :) [00:04] Mrcognitive: I've never used wireshark, nor ever tried to capture packets. [00:05] Sevis: Yeah, exactly! I changed the shortcuts to Master, and it fixed all the problems! Thank you very much! :-* [00:05] same here , i am trying out all the programs to get a better feel for this new OS . just wanted to know what it could do [00:07] Erm... It could capture packets. [00:08] Basically, when you contact the internet, you send packets of information. That program seems to be used to get those packets and display them. [00:09] There's quite many uses, but most are pretty malicious. [00:12] Can't say much more, really - only ones I can come up with on the spot are bugtracking and password stealing. [00:12] no , no , no . i am not trying to do anything that hasty [00:13] Personally, unless I had a strong need for it, I wouldn't delve into all that stuff. [00:14] alright , at the moment i have like no internet security . i have done research and have come across that ubuntu needs no firewalls do to the fact of how it operates [00:15] No-no, that's very wrong. [00:15] yay kde 4.3 is out and it installed real easy with no bugs and no hitches [00:15] really ? [00:15] mrcognitive_: linux is just like any other OS . it needs a human that thinks about security... [00:16] Ubuntu needs no anti-virus, due to the lack of risk of infection. [00:16] However, staying without a firewall may not be a great idea. Are you behind a router? [00:16] not on this computer , i use it for school and ect [00:17] A router generally has a built-in firewall. [00:17] Ola moçada hello everyon [00:18] Sorry, no, that's sorta wrong - but, in any case, a router will make a firewall (mostly) unnecessary. [00:18] well , ubuntu has firestarter i know but is it any good . and how come some tech dude told me having a firewall with this system was pointless ? [00:19] Hullo, Humha [00:19] Mrcognitive_, there are some risks of absolutely no firewall. Less than with a Windows machine, but in the end, ddos is ddos. [00:20] sevis , you how windows has certain commands such as ipconfig ...ect...ect why do they not work in ubuntu ? === mike is now known as pikohn [00:21] Mrcognitive_, because Ubuntu is a principally different system. [00:21] i am trying access my list of drives but i can not figure out how to do so [00:21] Errr... List of drives. Very good question. [00:21] One second, checking if I remember correctly. [00:21] Algum usuario no Portugues, [00:21] mrcognitive_: its ifconfig in linux [00:22] mrcognitive_: 'sudo fdisk -l' [00:22] thanks , fanfare [00:22] Hi, can anyone tell me how to remove things from the Dolphin "Open With >" contextual menu? Thank you! [00:22] And yes, it is indeed ifconfig, but it's not quite the same. [00:22] thanks sevis [00:24] Não estou conseguindo rodaar filmes em dvd. Que faço? [00:25] Humha, I'm pretty sure this channel is English-only. Please ask questions in English. [00:25] richie_: u mean the list of apps to open a file with? [00:26] sevis , is warcraft capable of running on , ubuntu ? [00:26] Ok. Thank you. [00:26] mrcognitive_: Which Warcraft? [00:26] 3 and wow ? [00:27] I do, fanfare, yeah. I installed some stuff through wine, and now it keeps wanting to open my Python scripts with notepad... No thanks! [00:27] mrcognitive_: i used to run WOW via wine months ago... [00:27] One second. [00:27] mrcognitive_: I still run WoW now - and get much better FPS on Ubuntu [00:27] Warcraft 3: TFT is gold. [00:28] <<<<< noob with computers , sevis . [00:28] richie_: hm, rightklick file select propertys, click on the tiny icon right to Typ: [00:28] So is WoW. [00:29] Mrcognitive_: You need to 'sudo apt-get install wine', then run winecfg, then you have a chance of getting it to run. [00:29] Fanfare, I could kiss you. But I won't coz I smell. Thank you! [00:29] i have wine already installed , thats why i asked you the question about imvu before [00:30] hey :) [00:30] Never heard of IMVU, sorry. I think WoWWiki has a tutorial for installing WoW on Wine. [00:30] Greets, Pascal_ [00:30] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers < which of this cards would you recommend ? :) [00:31] usb or pcmcia :D [00:32] sevis for wine , what resolution are you using ? [00:33] mrcognitive_: I'm not running WoW under wine at the moment. At the moment, my old motherboard died, so I'm on my netbook. [00:33] (and never ran under wine, always used XP for it) [00:33] my problem with wine is that when i am using a game that is mainly windows based , it does not show the picture [00:33] pascal_ looking [00:33] mrcognitive_: IIRC the best way to install WoW is either from CD/Setup file (use wine setup.exe or whatever) or if you can access your windows partition, you can just use 'wine WoW.exe' or 'wine launcher.exe' i think it is [00:34] see , i had xp home but i reset my cpu and lost it so i switched to ubuntu [00:35] not a problem, mrcognitive_, you can install and patch exactly like you did on windows! if you put the CD in, it might even autorun the same as XP! [00:35] you mean the factory disk ? [00:36] mrcognitive_: Wouldn't advise confusing CPU and computer. What you reset was your hard drive :) [00:36] OK, next question... I love Kate (the text editor, obviously) but she annoys me by opening every file in a new session! How do I make it so that files I double click appear in my already existing Kat session? [00:37] yeah .... i tried to eliminate some un needed programs and bombed the whole computer clean [00:37] Yeah, the factory disk - all 5 or one DVD [00:38] dont have it ..... is it possible to download my home version without it ? [00:38] Richie_: Kate -> Configure Kate -> Sessions -> Behaviour on Application Startup -> Load Last-used session? [00:38] when i bought the cpu while back everything was as is === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball [00:39] Nope, still opens a new session :( [00:40] O.o [00:40] Sorry, Richie_, can't really help you then. [00:41] No probs, Sevis, I'm trawling the documentation. I've just had an idea... [00:41] Ah, wait a sec, just realised. [00:41] Open with the -u option [00:42] Right click -> Open with -> Other -> 'kate -u' -> remember settings. [00:45] Nice one, thank you! We're halfway there now, though, since it opens in the same window, but pops up an error message "KDEInit could not launch /usr/bin/kate" [00:47] Works fine for me from terminal O.o Test that? [00:50] Yup, works fine from the terminal for me, too - it's just through Dolphin (Man, I hate dolphin. First moving stuff to trash takes a week and/or fails, now this!) [00:50] richie_: moving to trash in 4.3 is quick [00:51] richie_: also you don't have to use dolphin [00:51] you can still use konq [00:51] Richie_: Check the run in terminal thing? [00:51] Sevis: I checked, works fine from there [00:52] Rechie_: I mean in the Run As -> Other check the "run in terminal" option? [00:52] amason_: How can I check what version KDE version I'm on? [00:53] Richie: 'kde4-config -v' [00:55] When I try run in terminal and go to open the second file, I get "KDEInit could not launch konsole"! 0.o indeed... [00:55] O.o [00:55] Erm.... [00:55] Are you sure you've not got some very serious issues with KDEInit? [00:56] I'm on KDE 4.2.2... can I apt-get an upgrade and see if that fixes all of my dolphin related issues? [00:56] And I might have, how do you fix KDEInit? [00:57] No idea. [00:58] richie_: sounds like something has hosed on your system. [00:58] Ha haa! No worries, Sevis, I appreciate your help anyway! [00:58] Indeed. Richie_, you're very welcome, but I advise you do a very full checkup. [00:58] Ok... let's play a little game. What would you do if you were me? [00:59] Things with init failing, even just KDEInit, generally end bad. [00:59] Bugger [00:59] Erm. First of all, I'd probably reboot. [00:59] See, even reboot doesn't work sometimes... [00:59] Sevis: can just drop back run levels [00:59] If that succeeds, you at least know you can reboot. [01:00] If it doesn't, it generally yells the problem in your face. [01:00] it hangs after I click the "Restart" button [01:00] (and then fails to the end) [01:00] Erm.... Richie_, I suggest you move away to a more terminal-based style. [01:00] Does 'sudo reboot' work? [01:01] Yeah, I've gotton very lazy with all the flashy stuff in KDE :) [01:01] I'll try a sudo reboot and report back in a little while [01:01] Bye bye [01:01] <_gtt_> i usually used "sudo shutdown -r now" [01:01] Have you got a second station to come online from? [01:02] _gtt_, I'm a very lazy person ;) [01:02] <_gtt_> "sudo shutdown -P now" for power [01:02] I have an XP laptop with no IRC... That can be fixed I suppose - will try that during the reboot [01:04] <_gtt_> i really love X11 forwarding... so I'd just use my windows box to open konversation. [01:04] Hopefully, it'll all work... [01:04] Hehe, _gtt_, we're talking about if his box dies. [01:04] is it worth all the effort to get mIRC for Ubuntu? === mike is now known as pikohn [01:05] Iamherman: No... Probably not. [01:05] how can I reboot my GUI? [01:06] Ctrl+Alt+backspace [01:06] If that fails, first 'sudo dontzap -e' [01:06] sorry, -d [01:07] but I'm using Konversation (and I just deleted xChat) and neither is very good. ... for example, If I /list channels I can't cancel it so I'm forced to wait forever or close the program.. hoping mIRC is more user friendly [01:08] OK, so... given that i just shutdown 3 times quicker that when I use KDE buttons, my KDEInit seems to be borked, and all the other weird stuff that keeps happening I have come to a conclusion [01:09] KDE hates me and I should go back to blackbox [01:10] richie i proof blackbox and i prefer fluxbox [01:10] You can generally reinstall a linux system keeping it on :) I remember when I accidentally did 'sudo apt-get purge linux* -y'... [01:10] but, is difficult put all as kde [01:10] You could reinstall KDE. Can't really think of a more subtle way to fix this. Google first. [01:10] Suppose I get a nice new version that way, yoo [01:11] you can just remove the kde packages [01:11] how is possible install kde 3 on kde 4 [01:11] ?? [01:11] oem: what do you mean kde3 on kde4 ? [01:11] You need a special repositry. [01:11] can someone ping me [01:11] iamherman... Why? O.o [01:11] i install intrepid, but i want put kde3 [01:12] You're automatically pinging the IRC server. [01:12] OEM, there's a repositry set up somewhere. [01:12] well, i seek it, thanks [01:15] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall [01:15] anyone want to recommend i don't do that? [01:16] Erm. [01:16] I recommend you get out of X before you do that. === oem is now known as travispastrana70 [01:17] that would be a good start... [01:17] Oh, and personally, I'd halt kdm, too. [01:18] that's 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop' [01:19] OK, done and done [01:19] Well... Go ahead? [01:20] Reading between the lines I can't help but sense you might think this is a silly idea... [01:20] Not really. [01:21] It's a brutal idea. [01:21] But it's unlikely to kill (all of) your data, perhaps it'll reset your wallpaper and view settings, but not much more. [01:22] Meh, so be it. Is it going to wipe ~ [01:22] No, shouldn't. === ercan is now known as Lancelot === travispastrana70 is now known as oem [01:22] Then I'll not cry [01:23] Personally, I keep all my data on a separate disk, then use binds to get them into ~/ [01:23] binds? like ln -s? [01:24] No, in fstab [01:24] Ah, ok [01:25] That's clever! [01:26] Hehe, thanks. It's a little more transparent than links. [01:28] now, if i do this reinstall will i get the same version? or should i --purge remove then install? [01:28] what's is the dsl navigator [01:29] Errr... Could be a config error. [01:29] If you don't midn losing your config, go ahead and purge. [01:29] Oem - no idea, sorry. [01:29] Cool, lets see how this goes... [01:30] * Sevis gives a nervous chuckle. === mike is now known as Guest35892 === Guest35892 is now known as pikohn [01:32] yeah, so i dont think it was kubuntu-desktop i should have purged; 49.2kB disk space freed [01:32] Errr... One second. [01:33] kde-desktop [01:33] that's going next [01:33] this is fun [01:33] it's like spring cleaning [01:34] kde3-desktop [01:34] Erm, Richie_2, I know that purging one thing after another is good. [01:34] No, Oem, kde3-desktop is obsolete [01:34] But please don't do things like 'sudo apt-get purge kde* -y' [01:34] Actually, that would pretty much clear off what's left of kde... [01:35] you do realise that's like saying please don't walk on the grass, or please don't think about a big pink elephant [01:36] Why not go for it? Worst case scenario, I wake up tomorrow wishing I had backed up more frequently (or ever) [01:36] can someone tell me how to get xbmc to display in full screen when you have two monitors? [01:36] How many physical hard drives do you have? [01:36] pikohn - dunno, sorry. [01:36] okay [01:36] 2 in this box, 3 laptops, one 180Gb portable... and a 30Gb MP3 player :) [01:37] Throw everything except your system somewhere. [01:37] Huh? [01:37] Like, out of the window? [01:38] Like... To a hard drive. [01:38] Then disconnecting that (while the computer is off, of course). [01:39] Generally, making sure that the only thing you have on the machine is the system itself. [01:40] How do I quickly get all/most of the documentation files for KDE aps installed? [01:40] probably have enough space on the spare in here... if i can find it in terminal! [01:40] man man [01:42] Accidently deleted system tray how do I get it back? [01:43] Novice, sorry, I was sure you had fixed that. [01:43] nope [01:43] does anyone here use dual monitors with kubuntu? [01:43] Have you done 'mkdir ~/Desktop/test' [01:43] Sevis: just took a break [01:43] ? [01:44] Heh, no problem, I'm willing to go on. [01:44] Watson516 - yes, but it runs without a problem. [01:45] Sevis: ok, any ideas how I would go about extending mine instead of mirror? [01:45] Watson516 - oh, wait, sorry, it doesn't run perfectly, just realised :\ Indeed, shows the same thing on both monitors? [01:46] Sevis: yea, it works just fine on Ubuntu but I can't seem to get it working on Kubuntu [01:46] Sevis: what exactly does that do? [01:46] Watson516: Yep, I've been trying to fix that... No idea, sorry. [01:47] Novice: That makes a file on your desktop called "test" [01:47] folder* [01:47] Sevis: what does it test? [01:47] That's just the name :) [01:49] Does it show up on your desktop? [01:49] Sevis: how do i get to terminal again? [01:50] ctrl+alt+f1 [01:50] Ctrl+Alt+F7 gets you back to X. [01:50] * richie_2 is waving goodbye to lots of things... just waiting for "Removing girlfriend... Removing life..." [01:50] GONE! [01:51] now, which package do I need to install? kde4? [01:52] Errr... [01:52] Ah! [01:52] Sevis: ok did that and it put test folder on desktop [01:53] Richie_2 try kdebase [01:53] Note to self... autoremove after purge kde* was not a good thing. [01:53] Ouch, Richie... Ouch. [01:53] Novice... [01:53] yeah, lots of pretty things disappeared [01:53] Sevis: yes [01:54] Let me check a few more settings, please. [01:54] Sevis: have test folder on desktop now [01:54] Sevis: kk [01:54] Ah! Novice, I know! [01:55] Desktop Settings -> Desktop Activity -> Type: Desktop [01:56] Still installed 4.2.2... boooo [01:56] Then right-click and unlock widgets. [01:56] Richie, of course O.o [01:56] 4.2.2 is fine. [01:56] Your KDEInit seemed to have been slowly dying. [01:56] Sevis: how do i get to desktop settings [01:56] Aren't we all [01:57] Right-click, then, sorry, Appearance Settings. [01:57] I'm perfectly fine. [01:57] Just need to get more tea every time my cup runs out. [01:59] OK, so I tried startx, which gave me blackbox. startkde gave me "not installed, get kdebase-workspace-bin". I did, tried startkde again, and now? $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server [01:59] sigh [01:59] Did you turn KDM back on? [01:59] ah ha, 2 secs [02:00] kdm not installed. will just get it [02:00] Sevis: have something called appearence but not appearance settings? [02:01] Novice - try that, what does it show? [02:01] KDM is back, aaaaand... [02:01] I predict it won't work. [02:02] Sevis: nothing called desktop activity [02:02] you predict wrong! [02:03] Not only worked BUT... my awesome boston bruins wallpaper is still there! [02:03] Oh? Sweet O.o [02:03] Novice... Errr... [02:04] Are you /sure/ there is nothing called appearance settings? [02:04] No matter where you look? [02:04] Should be second from the bottom. [02:05] Sevis: your loosing me you have the same system as me were are you coming up with theese unknown commands? [02:06] These aren't commands... Just options in the drop-down menu. [02:06] Sevis: is no appearance settings [02:06] I have kubuntu 9.04, KDE 4.2.2 [02:06] Sevis: there is system settings/appearance [02:06] Sevis: yes that exactly what i have [02:07] You don't need to be in System Settings [02:07] Just go to your desktop, please. [02:07] Sevis: lol thats all i have is a desktop [02:09] Ehm, let me see, please... [02:09] hello, could someone help me get my sound working? [02:09] hp dv6500t [02:10] Drat. I think I've been quite a fool. [02:10] jp1: sound on the internet or system sounds not working? [02:10] hello i speack french [02:10] system sounds not working. [02:10] some one speck french here? [02:10] It is alsa problem I'm sure..I just can't get it fixed [02:10] !fr | trapa [02:10] trapa: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [02:11] Erm. Okay, 'killall plasma' isn't what I'm supposed to do. [02:11] thank you [02:11] Novice: What happens when you press alt+F2? [02:12] jp1: do you hear kubuntu when system boots?> [02:12] Sevis: nothing [02:12] I used to, now since I used the "fix" I found on google I get nothing. [02:13] I did have limited sound, basically just the kubuntu sound, now there is nothing. [02:14] Novice, care to repeat what options you have when you right-click again? [02:15] I used an alsa_1 and alsa_2 scripts...those didn't work. So I installed alsa 1.0.19 from ppa repository === richard is now known as Digital_Warrior === Digital_Warrior is now known as User8984 [02:18] is this the right place to ask about this? [02:18] Yes, sorry Jp1, I'll try to solve your problem asap. [02:18] Sevis: create new/paste clipboard contents/icons/ refresh desktop/apperance settings and folder view settings [02:19] Thank you. [02:19] * Sevis points at Appearance Settings [02:20] quick question: How to get audio working on Acer Aspire 5315 LT? [02:21] Press that, please, Novice [02:21] DrScience, welcome to #kubuntu. Thank you for submitting your query, you shall be helped as soon as possible. [02:21] thank you guys! [02:22] Sevis: OK [02:23] Do you now see Desktop Activity, with the drop-down set to FOlder View? Change that to "Desktop", please. [02:23] Sevis: OK [02:23] Done? [02:23] Sevis: YES [02:24] Then Apply and Ok, then right-click on your desktop. [02:24] Sevis: dang your genious [02:25] Sevis: thnx so much i knew it had to be something simple [02:26] Not a problem. [02:26] Jp1, your problem, please? :) [02:26] I can't get my sound driver working [02:27] ALSA? [02:27] Yes [02:27] I am also waiting for help on my sound for Acer Aspire 5315 [02:27] It had limited functionality until I used some guides from google. now I get nothing [02:27] DrScience - Jp1 has been waiting for a while. I suggest you read up, though, it may work for both of you. [02:28] ok...thanx [02:29] I have installed version 1.0.19 [02:29] Well, my experience with alsa is that it needs a tonne of packages, and then it suddenly works. [02:30] This seems to be an automated test: 'wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh' [02:30] I also added this to the end of alsa-base.conf [02:30] options snd-hda-intel model=3stack [02:31] running it now. [02:31] Latest stable release is 1.0.20 [02:31] http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=075548e5ccbdc8153f5316a2022256e49e49f7af [02:32] jp1 - what does 'esd' return? [02:32] I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE. [02:32] I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges. [02:32] I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE. [02:32] Aha. [02:32] Well. [02:32] You have a soundcard installed, I can see that. [02:33] However, it doesn't look like it's being recognised. [02:34] This seems to be a long-fixed issue... [02:34] It was recognizing it before..but sound wasn't working then either. I think it showed as a??286 [02:34] or a??268 [02:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4871189&postcount=30 [02:34] Errr... You had some sound? [02:35] it was just the kubuntu log in sound..nothing else worked..now however I have nothing. [02:35] Even just that was quite a bit. [02:35] I suggest you rollback, then test what exactly fails. [02:35] As far as I remember, the log in sound is a .wav [02:36] How can I rollback? [02:36] I used an alsa script to update. [02:36] It may very well be you had codec and pulseaudio problems, and you were simply fixing the wrong thing. [02:36] Hm... One second. [02:37] A simple purge of alsa, and then a reinstall could do the trick. [02:37] 'sudo apt-get purge alsa && sudo apt-get install alsa' [02:37] Not quite certain, though. [02:37] Be right back... [02:38] ok, I'm purging it now. [02:41] Okay, back, please tell me the result once it's done. [02:42] It has finished and I also followed the directions from the link you posted. So I have added the patched drivers and the line in alsa-base.conf [02:43] No change as of yet..not sure if I need a reboot or something though. [02:43] (just a note - I'm eating dinner as we talk, so may be slow to answer) [02:43] Yeah, go ahead and reboot, please. [02:43] ok, thanks. I'll be right back. [02:46] Hello again. [02:46] Greetings [02:47] Working any better now? [02:47] It still isn't working. It looks the same. [02:47] HDA Intel is gray [02:47] Pulseaudio shows up, but no sound when I test. [02:47] Er... Please try without that extra instruction I posted. [02:47] Seeing as it's pretty old, it could very well be included by default. [02:48] so just purge and reinstall? [02:48] ALC 268 Analog is the card info also.. [02:48] Yeah. Sorry for not mentioning to not do that instruction last time. [02:49] It's pretty clearly a config problem, I would say, so I'm hoping it'll autodetect. [02:49] It is only purging alsa-base...is that OK? [02:49] Err... Probably? [02:50] Ok, should I reboot again? [02:50] Is a good idea, yes. [02:51] BRB [02:51] if you are to reboot systray will ... [02:52] bah! [02:52] Hm? You mean that just restarting X would be enough? [02:52] Perhaps, likely enough. [02:52] dunno I did not hear anything other than restart [02:53] Alsa config issues. [02:53] should not require a restart [02:54] Ok, it still seems to be the same. [02:54] Ehm. O.o [02:54] It keeps asking to remove HDA Intel on reboot. [02:54] ha [02:54] I'm going to go keep reading up on it. I don't quite see what the problem could be, if it autodetected on first install. [02:55] Quick summary of the situation - Jp1 installed Kubuntu, sound worked minimally, he did something to alsa, it stopped working completely. [02:55]