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| amitk | rtg: will these changes that you threaten to push to master break a rebase? | 14:19 |
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| rtg | amitk, rebase to a topic branch? not if you _completely_ remove the topic branch debian directory first. | 14:20 |
| * amitk will try it out once the change is made... | 14:21 | |
| rtg | amitk, you're gonna have to change the rebase script in the fsl topic branch | 14:21 |
| amitk | I will | 14:21 |
| amitk | and then push it to master for the next poor soul who has to start a new branch | 14:22 |
| rtg | amitk, agreed | 14:22 |
| rtg | we'll get it figured out eventually | 14:22 |
| pgraner | anyone else seeing us.archive.u.c being awfully slow today? | 14:30 |
| apw | amitk, i recon the rebase script should by default pull in the contents of the scripts/misc directory from master by default | 14:31 |
| apw | pgraner, where are you timezone wise? its always slow from here | 14:31 |
| pgraner | apw: back in EST (NC) | 14:32 |
| pgraner | apw: I'm getting a steady 41.8kB/s | 14:32 |
| apw | thats utterly shite :) | 14:32 |
| Ng | --help | 14:33 |
| pgraner | apw: yea now you see why I'm asking about the apt-cacher-ng thing | 14:33 |
| apw | does it belong to us? | 14:33 |
| ogra | rtg, for the upgrade issue from linux-imx51 you simply need to add: Conflicts: linux-imx51 and Replaces: linux-imx51 to the linux-babbage debian/control file | 14:33 |
| pgraner | apw: my rsync script stopped running while I was gone so I'm a week out of date :-( | 14:33 |
| apw | yeeks life is over | 14:34 |
| rtg | ogra, send a patch to the mailing list so I don't forget | 14:34 |
| pgraner | apw: so I'm reworking my setup .... | 14:34 |
| pgraner | apw: the only thing I'll need to rsync are the daily ISO bits | 14:34 |
| apw | yeah same here, iso's get syned apt-cacher for the rest | 14:35 |
| rtg | Ng, ? whats up with '--help' in all the channels? | 14:36 |
| ogra | us.archive.u.c has dailies ? | 14:36 |
| * ogra thought they would not be mirrored from cdimage.u.c | 14:36 | |
| pgraner | ogra: no, just talking about how we do it | 14:36 |
| Ng | rtg: shockingly poor use of irssi's /foreach :( | 14:36 |
| rtg | Ng, ah, I have that problem some days too :) | 14:36 |
| ogra | pgraner, ah, i thought it was related to your question about us.a.u.c | 14:37 |
| pgraner | Ng: and here I thought you had so deep insight to the slow us.archive discussion :-( | 14:37 |
| pgraner | rtg: I got an email from someone complaining that we dropped the DSDT patch | 14:46 |
| rtg | pgraner, we didn't drop it, I just never forward ported it. | 14:47 |
| pgraner | rtg: ok, at this point its the same difference | 14:47 |
| pgraner | rtg: IIRC we decided at the sprint that we would not fwd port it, correct? | 14:47 |
| rtg | mjg59, do you think the DSDT patch is still worth it? I consider it a bit dangerous since you can brick your BIOS with it. | 14:48 |
| mjg59 | rtg: I'd be surprised if you can brick the BIOS | 14:49 |
| mjg59 | It's certainly possible to damage the hardware by breaking thermal control, though | 14:49 |
| * cking concurs with mjg59 | 14:49 | |
| mjg59 | I don't think it's necessary any more | 14:49 |
| mjg59 | We don't ship it in Fedora and there's a miniscule number of bugs from people wanting it | 14:49 |
| rtg | mjg59, I have not checked, but are you carrying it in Fedora? | 14:49 |
| rtg | mjg59, cool, thanks. | 14:50 |
| rtg | pgraner, I stand by our decision to _not_ carry it. | 14:50 |
| pgraner | rtg: ack, I'll respond, I'll document on the wiki on the Kernel FAQ | 14:50 |
| apw | amitk, what was the syncy thing you use called? | 15:08 |
| * rtg thinks apw speaks in pidgin english | 15:09 | |
| apw | i have a way with words don't you think | 15:11 |
| amitk | apw: unison | 15:11 |
| apw | thx ... stupid name :) | 15:11 |
| amitk | apw: wait till you find out what its written in :) | 15:11 |
| cking | Ocaml? | 15:17 |
| apw | amitk, you used this thing with more than one replica? | 15:17 |
| amitk | cking: correct | 15:21 |
| cking | and there was much gnashing of teeth... | 15:21 |
| amitk | apw: simultaneously? no | 15:21 |
| apw | cking, one of your favourites then? | 15:21 |
| * cking notes it's another scripting language to learn and then forget about | 15:22 | |
| amitk | apw: you can do several 1-to-1 syncs to achieve the effect | 15:22 |
| apw | amitk, any idea which end keeps state for the sync? src/dst/both? | 15:22 |
| amitk | both keep their end of the state | 15:23 |
| apw | so doing a sync from A to B from either end is equivalent and interchangeable | 15:24 |
| amitk | absolutely | 15:24 |
| amitk | http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ , incase you haven't found it already | 15:24 |
| apw | amitk, is this thing interactive? ie is it asking me a question when it says: | 15:27 |
| apw | <---- file bin/kpkg-check [f] | 15:28 |
| amitk | apw: use -auto, it will then only bother you with the ones with conflicts | 15:30 |
| apw | handy thanks | 15:30 |
| amitk | apw: I use this script: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/250854/ . I can then call it with unison-sync.sh <ip/hostname> <dir> | 15:33 |
| apw | yeah that looks handy | 15:34 |
| apw | i assume that makes the sync unit the whole account but then limits us to one subdir | 15:35 |
| amitk | if by whole account, you mean your home dir, then yes | 15:36 |
| rtg | jjohansen, will we achieve a uec (aka ec2) flavour for this A4 release? | 16:55 |
| jjohansen | rtg: I hope so | 17:05 |
| jjohansen | rtg: I have run into a few problems with the suse patches though | 17:06 |
| rtg | jjohansen, its pretty much gotta happen today. otherwise I won't have time to integrate the patch set. I may not have time anyway. | 17:06 |
| jjohansen | rtg: right now I am running a paravirt ops build while I work on the suse patches, to see if that will work | 17:07 |
| rtg | perhaps you just oughta take your time and get it right. An A4 release isn't critical. | 17:07 |
| sumanc | hi, can someone help me with linux-image-debug-<version> package? | 17:55 |
| sumanc | i understand that its not available for all kernel versions. how can i make one myself? | 17:56 |
| rtg | sumanc, look in debian/rules.d/0-common-vars.mk for CurrentlyBuilding | 17:57 |
| rtg | ogra, re: fsl imax51 build times. what do you suggest? | 17:58 |
| ogra | rtg, faster buildds :) | 17:58 |
| ogra | we'll get them soon | 17:59 |
| rtg | ogra, I've been working to speed developer build times by skipping some packages. | 17:59 |
| ogra | rtg, that wasnt a serious comment in the other channel | 17:59 |
| rtg | ogra, couldn't tell if you were just grumbling | 17:59 |
| ogra | nah | 18:00 |
| ogra | i'll wait patiently | 18:00 |
| ogra | have my nightshifts for the week planned anyway so it doesnt matter when the buildd spits it out | 18:00 |
| ogra | it just feels longer if you watch it all the time | 18:01 |
| rtg | ogra, go have a beer and come back in awhile. | 18:01 |
| ogra | yeah, i probably should do that | 18:02 |
| sumanc | rtg, thanks. i read that file. can you please dumb it down for me a little. | 18:12 |
| * apw wonders if it is entirly reasonable to be checking floppies for partition tables? | 18:12 | |
| sumanc | if i do AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs, will it build that package? | 18:13 |
| apw | i assume they are supported in theory? | 18:13 |
| apw | sumanc, i would not have expected you to need AUTOBUILD=1, otherwise i would expect that to make you some binaries to install | 18:13 |
| rtg | sumanc, 'sudo mkdir /CurrentlyBuilding', then rerun your build. You can shortcut some of the build by running 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic' | 18:17 |
| sumanc | apw and rtg, thanks. command 'fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic' is running right now | 18:20 |
| ogra | you might want to make it skip abi and modules checking in the end of the build | 18:20 |
| ogra | if you made any config changes | 18:20 |
| sumanc | but CurrentlyBuilding is created under / right? what does this do? i am running fakeroot as non-root user. will it create any permission issues? | 18:20 |
| * ogra always runs into that | 18:20 | |
| ogra | and sedly the check happens only at the very end of the build | 18:21 |
| ogra | *sadly | 18:21 |
| sumanc | i c. | 18:21 |
| rtg | sumanc, its a convention used by the buildd's. if '/CurrentlyBuilding' exists (which it will on a buildd), then the debug packages (and some other stuff) are created. | 18:22 |
| sumanc | i have not made any config changes, i want the linux-debug-<version> package for the systemtap to work. | 18:22 |
| rtg | sumanc, you should be fine. note the debug package is quite large | 18:22 |
| sumanc | rtg, thanks for the explanation. large is fine. i got a lot of space :) | 18:23 |
| rtg | sumanc, and hopefully a fast disk | 18:23 |
| sumanc | 5400 rpm | 18:24 |
| sumanc | build is crawling the laptop though :( | 18:24 |
| apw | you have an hour of grinding i'd say | 18:26 |
| sumanc | wow | 18:27 |
| sumanc | i am just getting into kernel hacking. is systemtap something you guys recommend? or are there other tools and practices? i want to be able to debug/look inside the hood as much as possible | 18:29 |
| sumanc | i am used to printk, but it gets in the way and not always appropriate, i think. | 18:31 |
| apw | cking, and every time it finds a floppy, it checks it for a partition table | 18:33 |
| apw | which leads it to read at least 2 blocks, leading to a 50s ish delay | 18:34 |
| ogra | apw, i doubt we would drop devicekit within the next two weeks to switch to udev only design | 18:43 |
| ogra | and after FF such a change is inappropriate | 18:43 |
| ogra | so fixing devkit is surely the way to go for floppies | 18:43 |
| apw | it'll be a udev config change i think, but yes | 18:44 |
| ogra | geez ! | 18:44 |
| ogra | seems linux-fsl is in its finishing stages | 18:44 |
| apw | na you are hulucinating from holding your breath | 18:44 |
| ogra | lol | 18:44 |
| apw | sumanc, i tend to use printk myself for most of my debug | 18:46 |
| rtg | ogra, armel FTBS | 18:47 |
| ogra | bohooo | 18:48 |
| rtg | hmm, dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-debug-2.6.31-0-babbage not in control info | 18:48 |
| rtg | thought I fixed that | 18:49 |
| sumanc | glad to see: dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-debug-2.6.28-14-generic' | 18:50 |
| ogra | rtg, well, your debian/rules seems to still have lines with -plinux-image-debug-2.6.31-0-babbage | 18:50 |
| rtg | ogra, indeed. Is there a requirement for a debug package? | 18:51 |
| ogra | not now, no | 18:51 |
| ogra | the kernel wont even work properly, we have no working USB and no NIC driver atm | 18:51 |
| ogra | its all about booting and making sure the image layout in karmic works right | 18:52 |
| ogra | drop debug | 18:52 |
| apw | gurgle, arm, ... pop | 18:53 |
| sumanc | thanks guys. i have the debug package installed now. i need to reboot to test it. thanks a lot for your help. | 19:12 |
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| mattwj2002 | hi everyone | 23:36 |
| mattwj2002 | I need help | 23:36 |
| mattwj2002 | anyone know if this would be supported by the kernel? | 23:37 |
| mattwj2002 | http://www.ppa-usa.com/products/usb/usb_pci/1325.htm | 23:37 |
| Q-FUNK | mattwj2002: hard to tell without knowing what's the chipset used for each function. | 23:39 |
| mattwj2002 | oh okay | 23:39 |
| mattwj2002 | yeah I tried googling it | 23:39 |
| mattwj2002 | no luck :( | 23:39 |
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