[00:13] <doctormo> hey
[00:30] <Buuntu> what are meetings about?
[00:30] <Buuntu> does someone teach?
[00:56] <doctormo> Buuntu: No, that would be a class, a meeting is for organisational administration. Since this group is new, there is much to do internally to make it a stable basis for education.
[00:56] <doctormo> pleia2: Are we getting to the time?
[00:57] <pleia2> yep
[00:58] <pleia2> cprofitt, Vantrax, meeing in 2 minutes :)
[01:00] <pleia2> doctormo: #ubuntu-meeting
[01:21] <bodhizazen> guess I missed the meeting, sorry
[01:21] <bodhizazen> internet problems
[01:21] <doctormo> bodhizazen: It's still going on
[01:23] <cprofitt> it started at 8pm
[01:24] <pleia2> bodhizazen: backlog: http://princessleia.com/temp/learning.txt
[01:57] <bodhizazen> thanks for the linky pleia2
[01:57] <pleia2> np
[01:57] <Raidsong> sometime soon im going to order 100 ubuntu discs and give them out at best buy
[01:57] <bodhizazen> do you want me to invite the BT members here to discuss learning ?
[01:57] <pleia2> bodhizazen: sure :)
[01:58] <pleia2> and we now have green-light to add people to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning
[01:58] <pleia2> so long as they 1) introduce themselves 2) signed CoC
[01:59] <pleia2> we should toss together a page saying this, or a note on the front page of wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
[01:59] <pleia2> but right now it's 9PM here and I haven't had dinner
[01:59]  * pleia2 goes hunting
[02:01] <bodhizazen> welcome
[02:02] <bodhizazen> we just finished a meeting of the UCLP and we feel we have the basic structure in place now
[02:02] <bodhizazen> so we are looking to recruit and also for ideas suggestions
[02:08] <bodhizazen> It is 7 PM and I am exhausted from skiing
[02:12] <cprofitt> sorry everyone... grandmother called and it was important
[02:19] <pleia2> cprofitt: no problem :)
[02:28] <duanedesign> bodhizazen: what tasks are you recruiting for?
[02:37] <bodhizazen> all of them =)
[02:37] <bodhizazen> lol
[02:39] <duanedesign> :)
[02:44] <bodhizazen> basically we are ready to start adding content
[02:44] <bodhizazen> so we need authors and teachers
[02:46] <duanedesign> what skills will be required
[02:47] <duanedesign> much of a learning curve to input information into Moodle
[03:26] <bodhizazen> we are all on the same page with moodle duanedesign
[03:26] <bodhizazen> perhaps we need a moodle session on how to moodle =)
[03:29] <doctormo> pleia2: ok back
[03:29] <doctormo> pleia2: sorry about that, conflicting things came up and I tried to shuffle things.
[03:30] <pleia2> doctormo: no problem, I'm a bit tied up at the moment though (getting a crash course in networking over VC, hurrah!)
[03:30] <doctormo> bodhizazen: that's not a perhaps, that's going to be a requirement
[03:30] <doctormo> pleia2: Heh, did you read the networking section of my course? :-D
[03:31] <doctormo> duanedesign: Hey there, I've already begun to make courses.
[03:31] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, but it was all review for me, getting into higher level stuff now and I've had a hard time with some of the concepts
[03:32] <pleia2> luckily my boyfriend is a network engineer at google :)
[03:32] <pleia2> and happy to teach!
[03:33] <pleia2> so I get to pick the brain of the best
[03:33] <pleia2> hehe
[03:36] <duanedesign> doctormo: i was mainly wondering if contributing to the Moodle project was going to be like contributing o Ubuntu Docs where you had to learn DoBook
[03:37] <duanedesign> s/DoBook/DocBook
[03:37] <pleia2> duanedesign: well, we need brains writing courses, if it comes down to it I think we can get moodle experts loading up the stuff in moodle
[03:38] <pleia2> right now we're looking for content, lesson plans
[03:38] <duanedesign> ahh, ok
[03:40] <doctormo> pleia2: Can your boyfriend donate some time to the project writing some of this up?
[03:41] <doctormo> duanedesign: My current work is all PDFs on my blog.
[03:45] <pleia2> doctormo: unfortunately not, too busy :( but I'll transfer what *I* learn to courses as applicable, hehe
[03:47] <duanedesign> doctormo: do you have a link to your blog?
[03:49] <doctormo> duanedesign: sure, http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/
[03:49] <duanedesign> doctormo: thank you :)
[03:50] <doctormo> pleia2: Shame, currently I'm not trained or exercised in the art of networking or systems administration beyond a jounor level, so I'm writing this course based on the idea that I know I'll get it worng :-P
[03:51] <pleia2> doctormo: I might be able to convince him to review some of it
[03:51]  * pleia2 schemes
[03:54] <cprofitt> night all
[03:55] <doctormo> pleia2: Scheme away, peer review is just as important and we want the quality of the courses to be high, as well as the clarity and ease of use.
[03:57] <Raidsong> if you need somebody with powers of Noob i can be a guinea pig for any things you need read
[03:58] <pleia2> Raidsong: good to know! that will be helpful too :)
[03:58] <doctormo> Raidsong: sure, read up on the first 4 chapters linked at the bottom of this page: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/ and see if you can understand them.
[03:59] <Raidsong> ok im going to read them now
[04:00] <Raidsong> i like the annoyed penguin at the top
[04:00] <doctormo> Raidsong: That's my blog :-D
[04:02] <Raidsong> i take you are a teacher
[04:02] <pleia2> that's an interesting question, doctormo - did you go to college/university?
[04:04] <doctormo> pleia2: No, I went to technical college when I was 12, night courses. Failed UK secondary education with only 1 GCSE Maths C grade at 16 and then went on to get a job as a programmer.
[04:04] <doctormo> Been a programmer ever since.
[04:05] <doctormo> It's rather a lucky career of learning on the job :-D
[04:05] <pleia2> doctormo: fascinating that you and I are working on these course (I don't have a degree either)
[04:05] <pleia2> courses
[04:05] <doctormo> It's ironic that I'm teaching it too
[04:07] <Raidsong> i wish i could afford any kind of college, yay for self taught people
[04:07] <doctormo> Raidsong: My technical college was free to people who's parents both didn't work. Yay for poverty.
[04:08] <Raidsong> lucky you
[04:08] <doctormo> Raidsong: It's the UK
[04:09] <Raidsong> here a 4 year college costs more then a house
[04:09] <Raidsong> for the cost of college i could quite literally buy a house that has 6 bedrooms 3 baths
[04:09] <Raidsong> and a two car garage
[04:10] <pleia2> Raidsong: hah, pretty much :) that's how my ex-husband and I were homeowners by the time I was 22, neither of us were to college, both of us work in IT
[04:10] <pleia2> so instead of paying back loans, we had a home
[04:10] <Raidsong> and if you buy in just the right neighborhood you also have a community pool and tennis court in the subdivision
[04:12] <Raidsong> after some help from a friend over seas its cheaper to hire a private tutor and learn german then move over seas and go to college
[04:19] <Raidsong> the courses don't seem incomprehensible, but not easy
[17:47] <doctormo> pleia2: The link on the wiki leads to a website that is completly blank, I thought we had a moodle site half skinned.
[17:47] <doctormo> with some basic content
[17:48] <pleia2> it's not completely blank for me
[17:49] <pleia2> it has 3 courses
[17:49] <doctormo> hmm, last time I looked it had my header branding, now there is nothing
[17:49] <pleia2> are you thinking of the test version?
[17:49] <pleia2> http://learn.bodhizazen.net/moodle/
[17:50] <doctormo> I guess
[17:50] <doctormo> I just didn't think our front facing site was so bad (branding wise)
[17:51] <pleia2> yeah, it's pretty basic
[18:01] <oly562> i can't ping a wireless printer server. it's ip is 192...104/24 and my ip is .90. simple network, used to work, but after loading 9.04 i can not ping it anymore from this wireless nic. my gw is standard, .1/24 and my nic is intel running wicd. UFW is off, and all other computers wired can ping that device and access it. there are no restrictions on the print server yet. Any suggestions?
[18:28] <oly562> i can't ping a wireless printer server. it's ip is 192...104/24 and my ip is .90. simple network, used to work, but after loading 9.04 i can not ping it anymore from this wireless nic. my gw is standard, .1/24 and my nic is intel running wicd. UFW is off, and all other computers wired can ping that device and access it. there are no restrictions on the print server yet. I switched from 8.04 LTS to 9.0 and i just noticed this h
[18:29] <pleia2> oly562: this is not a support channel, try #ubuntu
[18:29] <pleia2> oly562: and please don't repeat your line like that anyway :)
[18:30] <oly562> are you guys windoze users? wtf is going on,, im a FSF type user... where is the respect
[18:30] <pleia2> oly562: there is really no need to swear at us
[18:30] <pleia2> oly562: I'm just trying to direct you to the appropriate channel for help :) this is not it
[18:31] <oly562> how do i ping a print server?
[18:31] <pleia2> same way you'd ping anything else
[18:38] <oly562> yes
[18:38] <oly562> of course
[18:40] <oly562> its puzzleing
[18:55] <doctormo> pleia2: Wow, can't a sister get some respect from the wtf crowd
[18:55] <pleia2> no :)