=== asac_ is now known as asac [09:18] Guys I got karmic unr on AAO over the weekend the new interface started to crash out after about 10-30 seconds leaving you with a black bar that does nothing, is it something that got corrupted with an upgrade should I try a fresh install? [09:26] davmor2: What crashes? Can you connect over SSH? [09:29] lool: I don't have ssh-server install so no, I can't seem to switch over to console either. I think I'll try a fresh install and see if that fixes it I'll drop ssh-servers [09:30] okay === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [12:52] hello [12:52] anyone here knows how to install ubuntu mid on hp ipaq hx4700?? [15:45] hey guys. whats the deal with moblin/ubuntu? is there a more netbookish ubuntu than the one that came with my dell netbook? [15:45] ideally based on moblin? [15:52] derekS: The moblin stack is partially packaged publicly [15:52] But not fully in Ubuntu yet [15:52] derekS: I recommend sticking to UNR for now [15:54] though the default UNR looks a lot different from the launcher dell ships afauk [15:54] *afaik [15:54] "more netbookish" probably [15:55] ogra: its not just the launcher, its the whole experience [15:56] well, pull an UNR image and try it from USB, its a live image so you can easily compare to what you have installed [15:56] it would be nice to have the 25 second boot time, the great UX, with the ubuntu backend [15:56] ogra: is there a vmware image? [15:57] the karmic images are isos [15:57] you should be able to run them in vbox, qemu, kvm or vmware [15:57] yeah, thankss, i'll try it out [16:27] i like the new unr interface b.t.w [16:36] ian_brasil: The one in karmic? [16:39] yes [16:40] njpatel: ^ [16:40] njpatel: kudos for new UNR [16:42] lool: thanks :) [16:42] it's the design team's work, though :) [16:42] * njpatel needs to fix the crasher on exit [16:43] right, it is very professional...i found a launcher bug though #411088 which happened after a suspend/resume kernel bug #411091 [16:43] Bug 411091 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/411091 is private [16:43] weird, can't see it [16:43] netbook-launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT() [16:45] ian_brasil: ah right, i'll fix that first-thing tomorrow. I've seen the dups pile up today, but am busy with some other deadlines. [16:45] hopefully the fix will land in alpha 4 [16:47] njpatel, thx - *much* slicker interface..i have had a couple of 'i want that' requests already [16:49] ian_brasil: nice :) More stuff is possible with the new architecture, I'm going to try and do a few posts on planet ubuntu detailing it in the couple of weeks, hopefully people can do some cool stuff with it [16:50] and i personally like the grouping of everything in 'system'..the focus on the user interface is really paying off so congrats [18:22] so just downloaded the UNR. nice UI. Is there an effort to make it more like moblin? [18:22] less desktopish [18:22] more netbookish? [18:26] imho, this is too desktopish, and moblin isn't desktopish enough [18:29] derekS, i think that is called personal taste ;) [18:47] ian_brasil: playing with them, i feel like they have different goals [18:48] well they are different projects [19:06] ian_brasil: yeah, the ubuntu is much more full featured, but the UX of moblin is pretty amazing, imho, it is just too limiting [19:06] i hope that UNR builds on moblin [19:13] there was a spec for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/MobileKarmicMoblinRemix but i think it was dropped [19:14] but theoretically you could just install ubuntu minimal and then build the moblin interface using alien on the rpm's [19:19] ian_brasil: yeah, i saw that. the greatest part about ubuntu is that we don't have to do that :) [19:21] well i think the greatest part is that we *can* do that :) [19:29] ian_brasil: haha yeah [20:47] derekS, http://blog.canonical.com/?p=173 === lbt_ is now known as lbt