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rav	phh: thanks, that fixed it	00:00
phh	great	00:00
Planetary	great now i have no package managers. can someone please help me get synaptic package manager installed	00:08
Planetary	got nevermind	00:12
Planetary	got it	00:12
Sevis	Planetary, you should still have apt-get	00:19
bishop	hey	00:42
bishop	first time on kubuntu	00:44
BluesKaj	!welcome \| bishop	00:46
ubottu	bishop: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	00:46
bishop	thanks	00:46
BluesKaj	tried any other linux OSs ?	00:47
bishop	really like kde never used it before	00:47
BluesKaj	ok	00:47
bishop	most distos	00:48
bishop	lot of time on ubuntu mint solaris etc	00:49
BluesKaj	yeah , I started with knoppix and most popular distros that were around back then	00:49
bishop	bluekaj never tried debian	00:49
BluesKaj	glad to hear you like kde	00:49
BluesKaj	debian with gnome and ubuntu are he same IM	00:50
bishop	good interface. easier to use than gnome for me	00:50
bishop	much difference between those 2?	00:51
BluesKaj	(k)ubuntu are both debian based OSs	00:52
bishop	gottcha	00:52
BluesKaj	both use the apt package system	00:53
BluesKaj	and repository systems are very sismilar	00:53
bishop	really find apt pack system effective	00:53
BluesKaj	yes very , especially when compared to other distos like suse and the RPMs like fedora and redhat	00:54
bishop	i dumped vista much prefer linux	00:56
bishop	find it diverse and u have to learn how to use it. i like that.	00:57
bishop	just stopping by no concerns right now	00:58
BluesKaj	I still use vista and W7, due to wife and friends being not too adventurous with their pcs :)	00:58
bishop	i like dual boots but windows is heavy on system resources	00:59
BluesKaj	they kind of depend on me when things go wrong ...sometimes it's a pita but ...	01:00
bishop	yeah	01:00
BluesKaj	so your media is working ok etc ?	01:00
bishop	i really am impressed with kde	01:01
bishop	ok	01:02
BluesKaj	yeah kde is much improved now	01:02
bishop	big time... used it a while ago and went back to ubuntu. i much prefer kde...like the feel of it	01:04
bishop	blueskaj gottago now bbak soon...thankx	01:07
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idyle	Hello! Does anyone know any good bios password cracking tools other than cmospwd and removing the battery?	01:56
idyle	Been googling fyi :]	01:57
Mannequin	hi. sometimes firefox hangs and then it won't (re)start (after killing the process)	02:05
Mannequin	I mean, it won't restart clicking on the icon on KDE menu	02:05
Mannequin	it will launch fine if run from a terminal, for example	02:06
marco	uff, why kde 4.3 feeels soo sloww in kubuntu 9.04?	02:08
FullMetalJocker	hi all	02:09
marco	uff, why kde 4.3 feeels soo sloww in kubuntu 9.04?	02:09
marco	is fucking slowww	02:09
FullMetalJocker	really?	02:10
marco	yes mother cuker	02:10
marco	fucker	02:10
Pici	!language	02:10
ubottu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	02:10
FullMetalJocker	was just thinking about to update	02:11
marco	ok sorry mather facker	02:11
marco	LINUX SUCKS!!!!!!!!!	02:11
marco	KDE SCUKS!	02:11
FloodBotK2	marco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:11
marco	GNOME ROOLZ	02:11
marco	FREEBSD ROCKS!	02:11
Pici	marco: We're not forcing you to be here, you may part when you're ready.	02:11
marco	xD	02:11
FullMetalJocker	is it worth to update to 4.3....	02:14
FullMetalJocker	or better to wait?	02:14
MTGap	yes	02:14
FullMetalJocker	wait?	02:14
MTGap	no upgrade now lol, you have no clue what your missing out on	02:15
MTGap	Have you read some of the reviews?	02:15
FullMetalJocker	i don't like the network manager	02:15
FullMetalJocker	wicd i use	02:15
FullMetalJocker	i read about slowliness...	02:16
MTGap	no some of the reviewers have no clue what they are talking about, performance is better	02:17
MTGap	This is what you should really read: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/	02:17
FullMetalJocker	anyway...	02:17
FullMetalJocker	it is possible to downgrade..	02:18
MTGap	Is it? Yes I believe so	02:18
FullMetalJocker	yes, i was reading kde.org	02:19
Sevis	MTGap - third party sources are generally more reliable...	02:24
Sevis	FullMetalJock - check what hardware the reviewers are using, and compare that to your own. Don't just trust kde.org, even though it's non-profit, it still competes with gnome, and shouldn't be taken as pure truth.	02:25
FullMetalJocker	i am to upgrade...	02:28
FullMetalJocker	further i use synaptic	02:28
FullMetalJocker	not that rubbish kpackage	02:28
FullMetalJocker	but I hate gNoMe	02:29
Sevis	And I don't bother with a GUI and go right through the command line - yes?	02:30
FullMetalJocker	too	02:30
FullMetalJocker	apt-get uber alles	02:30
pikohn	is there any other office suites besides open office for linux?	02:31
FullMetalJocker	koffice	02:31
pikohn	ok	02:32
FullMetalJocker	ok dude	02:35
FullMetalJocker	au revoir	02:35
FullMetalJocker	ciao	02:35
Sevis	Bye	02:35
planetary	hello, i am trying to do. 'sudo gedit /ect/modules' it doesnt work. i realize thats for gnome. so i did kate instead and got errors. then kate opened and its blank. is there something wrong?	02:36
Sevis	It's /etc/, not /ect/	02:37
Sevis	Planetary^	02:38
planetary	oh nice. thanks man	02:41
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fef	I HEARD THIS IS THE TEXT VERSION	03:14
fef	i want to enter fonts into the blacks creen but i seem to have a desktop	03:15
fef	is this the white people version of linux or not	03:15
fef	i heard it supports black	03:15
ubantu_dude	My computer has 750g is that fast enough for ubantu?	03:16
fef	the black version is superior, si o no?	03:16
pikohn	you have to admit kubuntu is amazing.	03:16
ubantu_dude	On kubuntu how do I hide my porn from my wife?	03:17
fef	pikohn: how do i make it text version so i can enter fonts	03:17
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amason_	ubantu_dude: encrypt it ? shrug	03:17
amason_	make a user specifically for porn	03:17
pikohn	no idea...	03:17
ubantu_dude	well it has to super secure	03:17
ubantu_dude	because she cant find out I umm switched teams	03:17
pikohn	i should know that...but i dont	03:17
fef	pikohn: do you diddle little kids	03:18
Planetary	how do i get compiz to start default in 9.04	03:18
amason_	ubantu_dude: i think this is probably beyond the scope of this channel.	03:18
pikohn	lol	03:19
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john_re	What's the suggested way to get java (to enable firefox to do java. FF plugins?) - 1) from the ubuntu package? which package - which package name? 2) fron sun?	04:13
john_re	noone here?	04:29
murry	yes but i am not helpful	04:30
john_re	What happened to the apt package manager in kde for ku804? was that synaptic?? Now there is only the low functionality KPackageKit??	04:31
john_re	murry: at least you let me know i'm not the only one alive here. ;)	04:31
murry	yeah ur alive, i don't have an answer, sorry	04:32
john_re	;)	04:32
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freaks	hi	04:42
freaks	how do i make sure the "sidebars" in kate never ever show up again ?	04:43
freaks	i hate those sidebars... i tell kate to hide them, i save session, as default , i restart kate... thoses horrible sidebars are back :(	04:44
freaks	i want to make them disappear for good	04:44
plotnikaleks	всем привет	04:54
maco	plotnikaleks: #ubuntu-ru pojaucta	04:55
maco	grr whats teh scim package thatll get me cyrillic?	04:57
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kalp	i have installed xchess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions?	05:21
kalp	i have installed xchess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions?	05:25
forain	hello, any body here?	05:26
forain	i need help	05:26
forain	hi?	05:27
kalp	i have installed xboard chess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions?	05:28
forain	hi, i need help	05:28
kalp	forain jus typr the question	05:28
forain	kalp, first i'm brazillian and don't speek very weel english..	05:29
forain	my problem is i can`t brownsble in internet with konqueror..	05:29
forain	only for w3m	05:29
rosco_y	forain, your english is much better than my brazillian :)	05:29
forain	rosco_y, hahaha	05:30
kalp	forain ask the question, if anyone knows the answer , he/she will tell you	05:30
forain	kalp: well, my problems is i can't brownsable in internet..	05:31
forain	konqueror ansewer this for me "	05:31
forain	An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:	05:31
forain	Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.	05:31
FloodBotK2	forain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	05:31
kalp	forain are using the same network right now?	05:32
forain	yes	05:32
kalp	forain: and the same computer?	05:32
forain	yes	05:32
forain	i can't connec msn for kopete too	05:32
forain	connect*	05:32
forain	but i can brownseble with w3m in internet	05:33
kalp	forain: check konquror settings, if you have put any proxy settings	05:33
kalp	forain what is w3m	05:33
forain	w3m is a brownser in text mode	05:33
forain	like lynks, elinks, etc	05:33
kalp	forain so ur network is fine	05:34
kalp	forain: check for proxy settings and ip settings in konqueror	05:34
forain	yes, i know	05:35
forain	i'm looking konqueror configurations now	05:36
forain	i'm try download firefox..	05:37
bishop	hey	05:42
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bishop	i noticed that kde has been revamped.	05:44
bishop	maybe improved is a better word	05:44
bishop	installed ubuntu... added kde	05:47
freaks	.fonts.conf doesn't work anymore on karmic ?	05:47
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bishop	hey masksmaid	05:59
bishop	sorry marksmaid	05:59
bishop	getting later	05:59
bishop	leaving	06:00
john_re	What happened to the apt package manager in kde for ku804? was that synaptic?? Now there is only the low functionality KPackageKit??	06:15
maco	there was no synaptic	06:15
maco	synaptic is gtk, thus only in gnome	06:15
john_re	ie, where is that in904?	06:15
maco	adept was in kubuntu, but the only working version is kde3-only	06:15
Planetary	ya i ask this earlier	06:16
maco	you can install synaptic if you want	06:16
john_re	yeah, adept, probably	06:16
Planetary	thats what i did	06:16
maco	be aware itll pull in gtk dependencies	06:16
Planetary	synaptic thats what i installed	06:16
john_re	adept - if that was the name - was great - much better thank KPK	06:16
Planetary	i have a compiz question	06:17
maco	shrug i can use kpk. i was horribly lost the one time a kde user asked me for help fixing his package manager. i used konsole instead because i didnt understand adept's gui	06:17
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maco	(i never succeeded in using kde 3 for >5 minutes without becoming horribly confused)	06:17
maco	Planetary: whats up?	06:17
john_re	Are there any KU dev's here? Anyone know when some functionality like Adept will be available in KU 904?	06:18
Planetary	my cube is messed up when i rotate it. its a new install. i was customizing it and now when i rotate it using the mouse it glitches and jumps around but its only when moving up and down.. its not my mouse	06:19
maco	maybe the "sync to vblank" setting?	06:20
maco	john_re: when someone adds that functionality to kpk?	06:20
maco	john_re: thanks for the reminder that i promised to hunt down a segfault in policy kit that was tripping up the kpk dev though	06:20
Planetary	maco, didnt help	06:20
maco	dunno. i thought maybe was a refresh issue	06:21
maco	there is a "reset all settings" button somewhere in it	06:21
Planetary	oh what does the refresh rate do and the output do?	06:21
maco	john_re: oh wait it wont be in 904 at all period	06:21
maco	john_re: some future version of kubuntu will have it	06:22
Planetary	i ahve turned it off and on and it didnt help	06:22
maco	910 should have more features like warning on unauthenticated packages	06:22
maco	Planetary: refresh rate tells how many times to draw the screen per second	06:22
maco	Planetary: think of a cartoon or flip book with fewer images per second...looks all jerky. more images = smoother	06:23
Planetary	ya well it doesnt seem to do anything	06:23
maco	boo	06:24
maco	and you said you tried the big reset button?	06:24
Planetary	i wasnt sure what its purpose really did.. refresh rate	06:25
Planetary	tryign that now	06:25
Planetary	ahh so where is this reset button	06:26
maco	uhhhh whats the last thing on the left side of the compiz settings manager?	06:27
maco	advanced maybe?	06:27
maco	its in there	06:27
Planetary	thats advanced search	06:27
maco	i dont have compiz installed anymore but i used to use it all the time. pretty sure a button exists	06:27
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maco	if you go in there, whats on the right? has two tabs i think?	06:27
Planetary	trey do exist on certain functions	06:28
maco	i think where it lets you load a backed up copy of the settings or have multiple settings profiles is where the reset button is	06:28
maco	yeah but there's a universal one somewhere	06:28
Planetary	hmm	06:29
Planetary	found it	06:30
Planetary	i renabled it... its better but still not smooth like all my other ones	06:33
Planetary	ok well i guess its good. thanks for the help	06:35
Planetary	ah well do you think reinstalling it would help	06:38
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arash	Hello all,Its my first time logged in to my Ubuntu machine	06:57
arash	i start terminal and run "su" command	06:57
arash	after I enter my correct password it tells su:Authentication failure	06:58
rosco_y	arash: try "sudo su"	06:58
arash	I am 1000% sure my passwors is correct	06:58
rosco_y	sudo su	06:58
Mamarok	arash: Ubuntu doesn't use a root password, you nned to use sudo	06:58
Mamarok	need* even	06:59
rosco_y	:)	06:59
Mamarok	rosco_y: no	06:59
rosco_y	?	06:59
arash	aha it works out:)	06:59
arash	thanks	06:59
rosco_y	you bet	06:59
Mamarok	arasarasyou are welcome	06:59
Mamarok	sry, I need some more coffee first	07:00
arash	how can i install yum in Kubuntu?	07:02
maco	arash: using apt, though its a very bad idea to mix apt and yum. they dont share a pakage db	07:02
maco	so they wont know what the others have installed	07:02
arash	sorry for asking, im novice..so you suggest using apt instead of yum?	07:03
Mamarok	arash: that's the default package methode for Ubuntu and all Debian-like distributions	07:04
arash	I tried apt-get install yum	07:05
arash	it tells E: Couldn't find package yum	07:05
maco	oh i guess yum's not in the repo anymore then	07:05
maco	yeah, you wanna use apt-get	07:05
Mamarok	arash: you don't understand: yum is only use in SuSE, and for RPM package based distributions	07:05
arash	I want to install some packages.What command do you suggest?	07:05
maco	apt-get	07:05
arash	aha...thanks.	07:06
maco	yum is for red hat and fedora. suse doesnt even use it anymore. they use zypper now	07:06
Mamarok	maco: oh, didn't even know that :) Seems I haven't touched an RPM based distro in ages :)	07:06
Mamarok	arash: to search for packages you do apt-cache search <packagenaem>	07:07
Mamarok	and to install you use 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>	07:07
arash	thanks a lot	07:07
Mamarok	minus the ', of course	07:07
Mamarok	arash: you are welcome :)	07:08
maco	or we could make this simple	07:08
maco	aptitude search	07:08
maco	aptitude install	07:08
maco	aptitude remove	07:08
FloodBotK2	maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:08
maco	FloodBotK2: shush you	07:08
maco	aptitude search has the bonus of being alphabetized :P	07:08
arash	upinstall “Ement Tools”	07:11
maco	upinstall?	07:11
Mamarok	arash: what would that be?	07:11
arash	sorry that was worong	07:11
Mamarok	and don't use "	07:11
arash	I am trying to install GNU Radio in my Kubuntu	07:11
Mamarok	what do you want to install in the first place?	07:11
arash	but the manual is for Fedora	07:12
arash	that why i am stuck	07:12
Mamarok	ook, let's see	07:12
maco	oh i suppose you need these too "aptitude update" (check for updates) "aptitude safe-upgrade" (install updates that dont involve adding/removing anything) "aptitude full-upgrade" (necessary for things like adding a new kernel version)	07:12
Mamarok	do aptitude search Gnu Radio will show you the available packages	07:12
Mamarok	arash: the package name is gnuradio	07:13
arash	yum groupinstall "Engineering and Scientific" "Development Tools"	07:13
Mamarok	so: sudo apt-get install gnuradio	07:13
arash	sorry for interrupting	07:13
Mamarok	arash: stop talking about yum, that doesn't work here :)	07:13
arash	i know that...but before hand i have to install some other packages	07:13
Mamarok	arash: what you need is a package manager, which Kubuntu do you use?	07:14
Mamarok	which version that is?	07:14
maco	gnuradio isnt in the repos, Mamarok	07:14
arash	let me check	07:14
Mamarok	maco: it is in mine	07:14
maco	not in karmic then	07:14
Mamarok	so says aptitude	07:14
maco	Mamarok: or is it multiverse?	07:14
Mamarok	well, I bet he hasn't karmic :)	07:14
maco	arash: no need to manually install dependencies	07:14
maco	Mamarok: well i was only checking from my system :P	07:15
arash	its Kubuntu 9.04	07:15
maco	arash: the point of apt is to find those dependencies and install them for you. you tell it you want gnuradio and it figures out all the rest to grab	07:15
maco	aaahh ok yes it is a multiverse package	07:15
maco	arash: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list	07:16
arash	so it can even find and install myriad of packages mentioned in the manual ?	07:16
maco	yes	07:16
Mamarok	maco: what would that be for now?	07:16
maco	thats why it exists	07:16
maco	Mamarok: to enable multiverse	07:16
Mamarok	arash: just type 'sudo apt-get install fnuradio', that will do	07:16
Mamarok	maco: which is enabled by default in a basic install...	07:16
arash	Ok..	07:17
Mamarok	gnuradio* even	07:17
maco	Mamarok: REALLY?	07:17
maco	i thought only main and restricted were!	07:17
Mamarok	maco: well, I have always had it enabled when I installed a new system	07:17
Mamarok	maco: main, universe multivers and restricted	07:17
arash	so it will go thru and download and install Python , NUmpy,sdcc and ...all other packages?	07:17
maco	oh wow	07:17
maco	arash: yes	07:18
maco	arash: back in the days when only rpm and dpkg existed, installing stuff was a pain in the rear because you had to do this yourself. people noticed it sucked, so they created apt, then yellow dog linux folks created yum and fedora borrowed it	07:18
maco	and suse borrowed it for a while but they gave it back now :P	07:19
maco	arash: given you mentioned dev tools, im assuming the manual was leading you donw the annoying path of compiling it yourself instead of just installing it from the package manager	07:19
arash	Wow! and you have to define and isntall all of these packages and dependencies for a fedora machine?!	07:19
maco	fedora probably has a package too	07:20
* Mamarok needs more coffee		07:20
arash	I guess so..let me check the past page of manual	07:20
maco	like i said, im guessing the manual is telling you how to compile it instead of saying "install it. now to configure it...."	07:20
arash	well yes..you're true	07:21
arash	it is telling how to make and compile	07:21
arash	and building it	07:21
maco	there are two ways to install things in most OSes: compile by hand (somewhat annoying) or install a binary (think an rpm on red hat/fedora, a deb on debian/ubuntu, a Setup.exe on windows, a .dmg on OSX...)	07:21
maco	which OS are you coming from?	07:22
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arash	well sorry to say (I feel it;s like a crime!) but I used windows	07:24
arash	now i am swithing to linux	07:25
Mamarok	arash: don't feel like this, most people did so, too :)	07:25
maco	aye	07:26
maco	im just wondering which analogy set to use :P	07:26
* Mamarok started with DOS 3...		07:26
Mamarok	or was it 2.2?	07:26
maco	though im kinda glad you said windows because my OSX-->Linux convert set isnt too well fleshed out yet. havent gotten much practice with it	07:26
Mamarok	can't even remember	07:26
maco	i couldnt use my computer til i got a win95 machine. could never find any disks for the old DEC with CPM-80	07:27
Mamarok	oook, what about shifting this to #kubuntu-offtopic and go back to support here? :)	07:27
arash	can I ask are you voluntary do the support ?	07:31
maco	yep	07:32
arash	I remember once before i cam here and asked my questions	07:32
maco	its 230 in the morning here	07:32
arash	and I remember your ids'	07:32
arash	So you're in east coast	07:32
maco	yeah	07:32
arash	thanks for your help guys	07:32
maco	np	07:32
arash	i really appreciate it.	07:32
arash	this seems silly I cant use Amarok to play my music files!	07:37
arash	Amarok->Play Media...> then I point to my mo3 files	07:37
arash	and it doest just work.No track to play	07:38
maco	got mp3 codecs installed? try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras to get flash, java, mp3, aac, etc.	07:40
arash	When you try to install a package by apt-get and it alerts it couldnt find the package , how should I show the path to system so it can find it?	07:49
maco	it says it couldnt find that?	07:49
arash	yes	07:49
maco	apt doesnt install locally downloaded debs. for that youd use "dpkg -i foo.deb"	07:49
maco	ummm thats odd	07:50
arash	root@arash:/home/arash# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras	07:50
arash	Reading package lists... Done	07:50
arash	Building dependency tree	07:50
arash	Reading state information... Done	07:50
arash	E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras	07:50
FloodBotK2	arash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:50
maco	kubuntu-restricted extras doesnt actually contain anything just depends on java, flash, and codecs to pull them in	07:50
maco	it should exist....maybe you jsut need to update the package list	07:51
maco	sudo aptitude update	07:51
maco	if it hasnt been updated once after install it wont know whats available	07:51
arash	its updating now..	07:52
maco	Mamarok: you take over, please? is bedtime...	07:52
arash	Sure.	07:52
arash	thank yuo very much fo r your help..	07:52
maco	poke her if she doesnt seem to be watching :P	07:53
Mamarok	maco: ok, I am here :)	07:56
Mamarok	maco: good night :)	07:56
Mamarok	arash: does it find kubuntu-restricted-extras now?	07:57
arash	yes ! now it downloading extra packages need for that.Thanks!	07:58
Mamarok	good :)	07:58
arash	So eveytime I want to update my Kubunto I jjust run this sudo aptitude update?	07:59
arash	What does sudo and aptitude commands mean in general ?	08:00
Mamarok	arash: well, sudo aptitude update will update the latet package list, then sudo aptitude full-upgrade will update the system, yes	08:01
Mamarok	sudo goves you administrator rights	08:01
Mamarok	and aptitude is the package management for the command line	08:01
Mamarok	gives*	08:01
Mamarok	sorry for the typos	08:01
arash	you're welcome ..	08:01
arash	does it have a GUI based package management ?	08:02
arash	in Kubuntu I mena	08:02
arash	I mean,sorry.	08:02
Mamarok	arash: yes, if you open the menu, there are the system settings and you will see a "Add and remove software" option there	08:02
Mamarok	arash: but the command line gives you more information and is not difficult to learn	08:03
Mamarok	it is much faster anyway :)	08:03
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	i want to make my ubuntu partition bigger but its locked(not mounted i just tryed to umount on my live cd) can someone tell me how to unlock it (i am on the live cd right now)	08:03
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: do you have only one parition for your Linux system?	08:04
arash	Yes..I just wanted to know.I enjoy it reminds me of somehow old DOS 6 and 5 days.	08:04
Mamarok	to make a partition bigger you will have to reduce the size of another one	08:04
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: also, you need to be root to do so	08:04
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	noi have two	08:04
Mamarok	arash: yes, it does indeed :)	08:04
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: only two or more?	08:05
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	two	08:05
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	in 1	08:05
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	it's 1 partition whit 2 in	08:05
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: so you have two partitions for Linux, do I understand you right?	08:05
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	yeah	08:05
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: you mean 1 disk with two parittions in it?	08:05
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	i have a partition for windows and 1 for linux whit 2 in	08:06
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	in there are 2 partitions in that partition	08:06
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: that means 3 partitions then :)	08:06
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	yea	08:06
Mamarok	you can't have 2 partitions in another one, that doesn't make sense :)	08:07
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	but it realy is like that	08:07
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: so you need to reduce the size of the windows parition, or do you still have spare room on the disk?	08:07
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	i need to reduce	08:07
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	and btw i am on live cd right now	08:07
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: oh, you mean secondary partitions in a primary one? that doesn't make a difference anyway :)	08:08
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ok	08:08
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	i'm happy someone is helping me	08:08
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	:)	08:08
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: could you give me the output of df -h from the konsole in a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) and give me the URL, please?	08:09
arash	Sorry for interrupting...I assigned a 10GB partition for my Kubuntu machine.Is that enough in general for a linux machine?	08:10
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ok	08:10
Mamarok	arash: that is enough for the basic system, but doesn't leave much space for your data	08:10
Mamarok	arash: also, you should ideally have two partitions for a linux system, one for / and one for /home, so you can easily make fresh installations without erasing your /home partition	08:11
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	http://paste.ubuntu.com/251194/	08:11
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: good, the partitions are not mounted	08:12
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	but locked	08:12
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	i cant resize	08:12
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: is your live CD Ubuntu or Kubuntu?	08:12
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ubuntu (i think)	08:13
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: that is normal, you need to be root to do so anyway :)	08:13
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	how to be root	08:13
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: is your desktop brown or blueish?	08:13
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	brown	08:13
Mamarok	then it is Ubuntu with Gnome	08:13
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ok	08:13
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: you would be better off in the #ubuntu channel, as I don't know Gnome at all :(	08:14
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	oke	08:14
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	but they don't help me there	08:14
Mamarok	the partition manager is gparted, but you need to start it with sudo gparted from a terminal	08:14
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: you just need to be patient :)	08:14
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ok	08:14
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	thx	08:14
Mamarok	why wouldn't they help if you ask politely?	08:14
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	for the help	08:14
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: you are welcome	08:14
Mamarok	can you type sudo gparted in a terminal?	08:15
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	yea	08:16
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	and gparted is starting	08:16
Mamarok	and are the partitions still locked?	08:16
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	yea	08:16
Mamarok	then you really nedd to ask in #ubuntu, I can't help you very much here	08:17
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	oke	08:17
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	thx anyway (agian :p)	08:17
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: what I do usually is starting the live CD in administration mode and start gparted from there	08:17
Mamarok	not running the GUI desktop	08:17
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	how to go in admin	08:17
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	??	08:17
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: you need to restart the computer with the live CD and instead of letting it start Ubuntu, you have an option to go into administrator mode	08:18
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	where	08:18
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	at the "try ubuntu" button	08:19
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	??	08:19
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: the first screen that the computer is showing you has a menu, it shows "Start Ubuntu, "Install Ubuntu " Check disk for defects, etc	08:19
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	yea	08:19
Mamarok	there you have the option on the base line to go into administrator mode	08:19
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	and then press f4	08:19
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	for mode's	08:19
Mamarok	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: I seriously don't remember and can't test here, sorry	08:20
Mamarok	but everything is explained there	08:20
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	ok	08:20
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	oke thx	08:20
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	agian	08:20
UBUNTU-ROCKZ-	:p	08:20
Mamarok	you are welcome :)	08:20
FloodBotK2	UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:20
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drcrespooo	hi	08:40
drcrespooo	hi	08:41
drcrespooo	hlow	08:41
drcrespooo	no bady ther	08:41
drcrespooo	plz any bady u hlpe me	08:45
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Guest6777	can i have a xgl for kubuntu 9.04 ?	08:50
Guest6777	<ping>	08:52
Guest6777	is any one home ?	08:54
bloodi_	witam	09:07
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sajjad_	hello every one	09:53
sajjad_	i want to start learning KDE	09:53
sajjad_	help me	09:53
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Firefishe	sajjad_: What would you like to know?	09:56
Firefishe	oh phoo..he dropped	09:56
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loevborg	Is there some place where I can track bugs and workarounds for Karmic? Some recent update broke sound for me in some applications. Where can I find out about it?	10:37
Caliostro	Guys, hi	10:40
Caliostro	:)	10:40
Caliostro	Do you know how to install Aurorae theme engine on kubuntu?	10:40
ahox	Hi, I still have a problem with akonadi. It won't startup, it bails out at test 10, Akonadi server process not registered at D-Bus, any ideas?	10:47
ahox	Or is there some tutorial that guides one through all the necessary steps to set it up on kubuntu?	10:47
Idhan	hi, is there any way on linux to see the current level of my printer's ink	10:51
ahox	Idhan: depends on your printer. However, you can always setup a webcam, point it to your printer, etc... ;-) (I once did that at the office)	10:52
Idhan	on windows I can do that.. my printer is a hp psc1310	10:52
ahox	idhan, try the hplip driver	10:54
Idhan	ahox: how can I try it?? is simply a package to install?	10:55
Idhan	ahox: is already installed... but I am not sure is the one I am using..	10:56
ahox	Add a new printer, and make sure you use the hplipb driver	10:56
administrador	hola	10:57
loevborg	Idhan, tr running 'hp-toolbox'	10:57
loevborg	try	10:57
administrador	alquien habla español	10:58
Idhan	loevborg: thank you ;)	10:59
loevborg	Idhan, you're welcome	11:01
loevborg	Idhan, does it work?	11:01
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aboSamoor	Hi, guys it is really annoying that every update for kde packages overwrite the /etc/X11/default-display-manager to kdm :(	12:34
shadowhywind	hay all when ever i try to run mogrify, I am getting mogrify: NoDecodeDelegateForThisImageFormat any ideas?	13:44
rbndj8	buenos dias	14:15
rbndj8	alguien me puede decir por k no puedo descargar torrent	14:15
skif	âñåì ïðèâåò:)	14:18
skif	:)	14:18
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bombee	あ	14:32
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stefano_	ciao	14:45
stefano_	!List	14:45
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	14:45
phitoo	Hello all! I upgraded to 4.3 from the ppa a couple of days ago and now k3b won't write cd's anymore.	14:57
phitoo	k3b goes through all the motions and reports a successful write but nothing is on the cd.	14:58
epimeth	does anyone know if I can upgrade to karmic without downloading the iso? is it possible to go "old school" and simply change the sources to karmic and dist-upgrade?	14:59
shadeslayer	epimeth: i think yes	15:01
shadeslayer	epimeth: but its NOT advised	15:01
epimeth	shadeslayer: also, I'd rather not install all the gnome packages, to "update-manager -d" isn't what I'm looking for :-)	15:01
Unksi	epimeth: i wouldnt do that, there is update-manager -d or something like that that you can use to upgrade	15:01
epimeth	Unksi: lol... beat you to it ;-p	15:01
Unksi	dont remember whats the exact switch for beta	15:01
Unksi	:D	15:02
shadeslayer	epimeth: as usual its not advised,each alpha upgrade is advised as a clean install	15:02
epimeth	shadeslayer: yea, I figured as much... so going from alpha 3 to 4 would be fresh install suggested?	15:02
shadeslayer	epimeth: yep	15:02
epimeth	meh... maybe I'll just install the ppa if I want 4.3....	15:03
epimeth	I kinda wanted to see if my wifi issue was resolved tho.	15:03
epimeth	oh well	15:03
epimeth	so on that note... is anyone using bcm4328?	15:04
shadeslayer	!broadcom	15:04
ubottu	Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	15:04
epimeth	or knows how to permanently fix the problems with it? I have to modprobe stuff to get it to work :-)	15:05
shadeslayer	epimeth: youll have to tinker with it	15:05
epimeth	shadeslayer: the thing is, it seems to want to use b44	15:06
shadeslayer	epimeth: did you look at the wiki? i have no idea on these cards	15:07
epimeth	I modprobe -r b43 b44 wl	15:07
epimeth	then modprobe wl	15:07
epimeth	then b44	15:07
epimeth	then restart the network and voila	15:07
epimeth	the card identifies as b43, tho	15:07
epimeth	stupid dell :-) its supposed to be linux friendly, but they insist on using broadcom cards	15:08
epimeth	at least I have wireless tho	15:08
epimeth	bcm4318 was a huge PITA	15:08
shadeslayer	epimeth: yeah,dell sucks at QC	15:08
epimeth	shadeslayer: I wouldn't go that far... I've only ever had problems with wireless cards on dell	15:09
shadeslayer	epimeth: yeah,with Dell its a draw of luck	15:10
epimeth	yea, but I make my own luck! :-)	15:10
shadeslayer	:D	15:10
epimeth	bottom line, my problem is that I decided that if I'm getting a new laptop, I might as well get an N card	15:11
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shadeslayer	epimeth: get one from intel	15:11
epimeth	not thinking that "hmmm.... maybe the linux drivers haven't quite caught up yet	15:11
bjb1959	any idea when kde4 will be able to automount dvd's and play movies like kde 3 does?	15:11
BluesKaj	howdy	15:12
shadeslayer	bjb1959: theres a widget for that....also thats filed as a bug,so hopefully soon	15:12
epimeth	shadeslayer: you kidding? I've had more problems with linux on Lenovo than Dell... but again, I got a top-of-the line with an HDA card... so should I Really be surprised?	15:12
bjb1959	shadeslayerdo you know which widget it is	15:12
shadeslayer	bjb1959: its on kde-look.org under plasmoids	15:13
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epimeth	is it me, or does anyone else giggle when they see the word "plasmoids"?	15:13
bjb1959	shadeslayer, is it device manager? if so I tried it and it doesn't work	15:13
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shadeslayer	bjb1959: yeah that one....	15:14
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shadeslayer	bjb1959: whats the problem?	15:14
bjb1959	I read that it automounts but It doesn't really do anything any different then the notifier and no way to set it to automatically run a program like vlc etc	15:15
shadeslayer	bjb1959: hmmm... thats kinda like an autostart feature,not automount	15:16
bjb1959	shadeslayer, yea, sorry that's what I meant. you can set an action in kde 3 to autoplay movies when you insert a dvd but you can't do that in kde 4	15:17
shadeslayer	bjb1959: no idea,never tried that	15:17
bjb1959	in kde 3 if you insert a blank cd or dvd you can set it to start k3b, when you insert a thumb drive you can set it to open konqueror, music cd's amarok etc pretty fundamental stuff but can't do so in kde 4 yet any idea when?	15:19
shadeslayer	bjb1959: you could ask in #kde too	15:20
bjb1959	thanks, I'll give that a shot	15:20
suit	Hey. I'm trying Kubuntu Karmic right now and was wondering if there is proper Ubuntu One implementation planned	15:21
shadeslayer	suit: #ubuntu+1	15:22
el_-	hi, Im running 9.04 and I'm trying to set up a HP Laserjet 4P, the printer is discovered, but then no jobs are printed... checked already with google but could not find a solution for my problem	15:22
tom__	short question about the kickoff menu: when I deleted the .wine folder to get a clean wine environment... how do I tell the kubuntu start menu to update the wine-entry?	15:25
ajavid	good morning	15:35
ajavid	I am trying to play some mp3 file in amarok and it will only run through the list very quickly but no mp3 play	15:35
ajavid	whats to fix?	15:35
shadeslayer	ajavid: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ?	15:36
ajavid	no	15:37
shadeslayer	ajavid: please do so then	15:37
ajavid	ok	15:37
ajavid	shadeslayer, what does this do?	15:38
eitreach	Can someone tell me which taskbar-plasmoid is used here? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KFresh++pack+(bespin+%2B+colors+%2B+wall)+?content=109319	15:38
shadeslayer	ajavid: adds support for mp3's	15:38
ajavid	shadeslayer, what else does it do?	15:38
ajavid	(just so I know)	15:38
ajavid	why is mp3 restricted?	15:39
shadeslayer	ajavid: java and flash support too,apart from other things	15:39
ajavid	oh	15:39
shadeslayer	!restricted \| ajavid	15:39
ajavid	I have amd64	15:39
ubottu	ajavid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	15:39
ajavid	fantastic	15:39
ajavid	also, I have amd64 but I do not wish to use 32bit flash plugin and pluginwrapper	15:39
ajavid	I want to use amd64 64bit flash adobe	15:39
ajavid	which one will I get with this package?	15:39
shadeslayer	ajavid: the 64 bit package	15:40
ajavid	good	15:41
ajavid	I also wish to find w64codecs and smplayer	15:41
ajavid	they used to be exclusively in the medibuntu reposirotyr	15:41
ajavid	do you have a deb line for me in soruces.list ?	15:41
ajavid	off the top of your head	15:42
shadeslayer	!medibuntu \| ajavid	15:42
ubottu	ajavid: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	15:42
ajavid	I right click url, and click open link (konsole) and it says cannot launch kio_http	15:42
ajavid	error box	15:43
ajavid	I just installed it from cd 9.04	15:43
shadeslayer	ajavid: are you fully updated?	15:43
ajavid	yes	15:43
ajavid	4.3	15:43
ajavid	100% update	15:43
ajavid	do i have to restart pc?	15:43
ajavid	I just finished upgradin	15:44
ajavid	it upgraded a kernel too perhaps I should reboot	15:44
ajavid	brb	15:44
ajavid	i am back	15:47
ajavid	shadeslayer, it is ok now	15:47
shadeslayer	ajavid: ok,so after you have installed kubuntu-restricted-extras,install w64codecs from the medibuntu repo at medibuntu.org	15:48
ajavid	oh nice	15:48
ajavid	ok	15:48
ajavid	!medibuntu \| me	15:48
ubottu	me: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	15:48
ajavid	fantastic	15:49
ajavid	oh nice ubuntu comes with a few screen preconfigurations	15:51
ajavid	finally, screen is taking popularity in the newb world! yay	15:51
ajavid	ohhh, my tummy hurts	15:54
ajavid	:(	15:54
ajavid	apt-get build-dep mplayerthumbs	15:59
ajavid	oops	15:59
shadeslayer	ajavid: are you trying to compile stuff? are you sure what youre doing?	16:00
ajavid	I'm backporting mplayerthumbs from karmic	16:00
shadeslayer	ajavid: why?	16:00
ajavid	it only depends on mplayer but I don't want to take a chance mixing as that package is built on karmic	16:00
ajavid	not sure what its build-depends are	16:01
ajavid	shadeslayer, to generte video thumbnails in kde 4.3	16:01
shadeslayer	ajavid: uh,are you on karmic or jaunty?	16:01
ajavid	jaunty	16:01
ajavid	thus, the backporting	16:01
shadeslayer	ajavid: so why are you mixing your sources?	16:01
ajavid	because I can...	16:01
ajavid	this is the preferred way to do this	16:02
shadeslayer	ajavid: well i dont think thats a good thing to do	16:02
ajavid	or would you rather I installed the package directly from karmic instead of rebuilding it on jaunty	16:02
Mamarok	ajavid: at your own risk	16:02
ajavid	that would be the bad thing to od	16:02
Mamarok	those packages can have other dependencies which can screw your installation	16:02
ajavid	it doesn't	16:02
shadeslayer	ajavid: you are rendering your system un supportable in this channel if you proceed	16:02
Mamarok	well, out of sheer luck	16:03
ajavid	it only depends on mplayer, even then, I don't want to mix distros	16:03
ajavid	I'd rather backport	16:03
ajavid	only in an ubuntu channel will I ever hear this.	16:03
ajavid	lol.	16:03
Mamarok	ajavid: backporting doesn't mean installing a package built for a higher version	16:03
Mamarok	a backported package is build for a specific release version	16:04
ajavid	dpkg-deb: building package `mplayerthumbs' in `../mplayerthumbs_1.2-kde4.3.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb'.	16:04
ajavid	I thank you very much for your concern	16:04
Mamarok	ajavid: ok, just don't ak us to help if you screw things	16:04
Mamarok	ask*	16:04
ajavid	I maintain a few packages in debian, I work on debian installer for 8 years, I provide excellent support in #debian for 7+ years, and I'm having to use kubuntu for a desktop	16:05
ajavid	people are laughing at me currently, but its alright	16:05
ajavid	I know what I'm doing, I just don't know kubuntu specific packages to make things work	16:05
shadeslayer	ajavid: no need to brag	16:05
Mamarok	ok, can we stop that useless thread now?	16:05
ajavid	its not bragging, its simply informing you that you are preachign to the choir	16:06
Mamarok	ajavid: just stop it, both	16:06
shadeslayer	Mamarok: i havent said a word...	16:06
ajavid	I did this becuase the mplayerthumbs in the jaunty repository only works on kde3 apparantly and it will not generate thumbnails for video files in konqueror/dolphin	16:07
ajavid	I was told by #kde Jucato that I must either install the latest mplayerthumbs package from karmic, or backport it for jaunty	16:07
Mamarok	ajavid: please take this to #kubuntu-offtopic	16:07
ajavid	this way it makes available another checkbox in the konqueror configuration where it allows you to show previews for video files in the browser	16:08
Mamarok	and stop that here, now!	16:08
ajavid	I'm just informing, in case someone else finds it helpful. It took me a long time to figure how to do this in kde4	16:08
Mamarok	ajavid: it goes beyond the scope of this channel, period	16:08
ajavid	oh	16:09
ajavid	Mamarok, but I do not understand how/why?	16:09
ajavid	is there a channel specifically for developers?	16:09
ajavid	like a kubuntu-dev or a kubuntu-karmic or something specific	16:10
ajavid	?	16:10
Mamarok	ajavid: because we do support for official packages here, whyt you porpose has nothing to do in this channel, so either take it to #kde or to #kubuntu-offtopic, but not here	16:10
ajavid	Mamarok, it is an official package	16:10
Mamarok	ajavid: #kubuntu-devel, but that is not fordiscussion neither, only for work	16:10
ajavid	it exists in both juanty and karmic	16:10
Mamarok	ajavid: not for a released version, and now stop it, last time I say it	16:10
ajavid	don't get mad/angry I'm trying to understand not argue	16:11
ajavid	calm down	16:11
ajavid	if you don't explai me now, maybe mistake will happen in fugure	16:11
ajavid	future, better to be informed than to make a mistake again	16:11
Mamarok	-< #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu+1 for karmic, not here	16:11
ajavid	ok	16:11
BluesKaj	ajavid, , it's prolly closer to #ubuntu+1 , discussions there include kde4 etc, despite the chat name	16:11
ajavid	good stuff	16:11
ajavid	ahh ok	16:11
ajavid	see I'm just trying to find the right forum, its alright, just relax	16:12
BluesKaj	ajavid, don't tell ppl to relax , when you're asking for help , it's rude	16:12
ajavid	if I feel someone isn't relaxed, I'd tell them to relax, if you think its rude, then I am sorry for your preception. You can end it now, or continue on, I'm done.	16:13
bentob0x	why, dear, why is it so complex to have the sound working well on amarok + firefox + ardour + anything else that needs sound at the same time?	16:21
Mamarok	bentob0x: do you have a specific question or problem?	16:24
Mamarok	oops, phone, brb	16:25
draik	Hello all. I'm trying to create a symbolic link, but I can't seem to get it done. Here is what I am entering "sudo ln –s /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0". The end result is this "ln: target `/usr/lib/libopenal.so.0' is not a directory".	16:27
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* shadeslayer searches ubottupedia....nothing there		16:30
draik	shadeslayer: I removed my router from the equation and I thought that was it, but I had a moment where the desktop gave me the bird.	16:34
shadeslayer	draik: hmm? the wicd problem?	16:35
draik	shadeslayer: I'm just going to leave it as 'failing motherboard'	16:35
draik	shadeslayer: Yes.	16:35
shadeslayer	draik: hmm,well thats a possibility	16:36
draik	Don't really have the money to get a new mobo, CPU and RAM, so I'll just put up with it	16:36
shadeslayer	draik: hehe,well did you try knetwork manager btw?	16:36
draik	shadeslayer: Oh yeah, that failed mid-download	16:37
* draik is being generous by assuming it even got to 50%		16:37
shadeslayer	draik: gah	16:37
draik	I got it now, though, since I'm direct-connect with the modem	16:38
shadeslayer	hmm	16:38
draik	I have to restart for it to take effect, but I'm really needing to create the symlink	16:39
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* rulo he marchado a trabajar: Gone away for now		16:45
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draik	So it seems that I can't symlink to another symlink	17:06
Mamarok	oh, well, no, that is not possible, else you might creat an infinite loop :)	17:07
shadeslayer	draik: lol	17:08
olskolirc	I had to reinstall windows and lost my dualboot....how do I recover it with the kubuntu intrepid dvd please?	17:09
Mamarok	!grub \| olskolirc	17:09
ubottu	olskolirc: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	17:09
draik	Mamarok: FileA. SymlinkA => FileA. SymlinkB =/=> SymlinkA	17:12
* draik is finally installing X-Plane 9 on Kubuntu 9.04		17:13
Mamarok	draik: that makes no sense	17:13
shadeslayer	draik: why would you need 2 symlinks for the same file?	17:13
draik	Mamarok: I have file A. File A has a symlink (Symlink A). Per the instructions provided, I am told to symlink to what is already a symlink, however, I don't think they know it's already a symlink.	17:14
* shadeslayer is all confuzled		17:14
draik	http://wiki.x-plane.com/Linux_Installation_Walkthrough#Gathering_the_required_libraries	17:14
SNIPER181275	ciao	17:15
SNIPER181275	!list	17:15
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	17:15
Mamarok	draik: why not making a second symlink to that same file?	17:15
draik	Mamarok: shadeslayer: That URL is for the both of you. Scroll just under the GUI portion for the symlink instructions	17:15
Mamarok	!it \| SNIPER181275	17:15
ubottu	SNIPER181275: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	17:15
* rulo he marchado a trabajar: Gone away for now		17:16
Mamarok	!away > rulo	17:16
ubottu	rulo, please see my private message	17:16
shadeslayer	Mamarok: bet itll come back to ubottu as a away message :)	17:16
SNIPER181275	ciao	17:17
SNIPER181275	!list	17:17
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	17:17
Mamarok	SNIPER181275: stop this, please!	17:17
shadeslayer	SNIPER181275: stop it!	17:17
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eitreach	I think plasma has stopped responding.. How do I restart it?	17:29
shadeslayer	eitreach: plasma-desktop in krunner	17:29
shadeslayer	eitreach: but you will have to kill it first,so killall plasma-desktop in krunner first	17:30
Byron	Mamarok: shadeslayer: sorry, it seems my desktop didn't like the interwebs anymore.	17:34
Byron	I'm on a netbook for now	17:35
shadeslayer	Byron: sorry?	17:35
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Mamarok	Byron: sorry, don't remember what the problem was	17:35
Byron	:(	17:35
Mamarok	I see a lot of support request in one day :)	17:35
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Mamarok	ok :)	17:35
draik	so yeah.	17:36
eitreach	Thanks..	17:36
draik	From what I last gathered...	17:36
Mamarok	but I will be away in a very short time... sorry	17:36
draik	Mamarok: That URL is to the support file online that will explain the symlink. I gues they don't know it's already a symlink.	17:37
Mamarok	ah, that's why	17:37
ctx144k	hello all, iam using kde4.3.0-backport under kubuntu9.04	17:40
ctx144k	i have the follow problem: when i copy a text from a GTK-appliaction (e.a. firefox, xchat) via STRG+C, and close the program, then i have no chance to paste that text via STRG+V	17:42
ju73m4	hola	17:42
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ctx144k	anyone have an idea for that?	17:42
ju73m4	hols bl4ck	17:42
ju73m4	speaking in spanish?	17:43
draik	ctx144k: I have the same issue. I just put up with it.	17:48
BluesKaj	ctx144k, I noticed that ctrl+c and ctrl+v doesn't work either but ctrl+c and paste does :P	17:48
BluesKaj	leave the app open til it's pasted I guess	17:49
draik	BluesKaj: that's what I do.	17:49
BluesKaj	that seems to work	17:49
ctx144k	yes, then i have no problem...	17:50
ctx144k	but... sometimes i closed already the app - than i have no chance to get the data	17:50
BluesKaj	don't close it, just minimize	17:51
ctx144k	hmmm... - not easy to change usual practices	17:52
ctx144k	but ok	17:52
BluesKaj	bbl ...gotta cut the lawn before the rain	17:53
deathtech	Hey Guys	17:54
deathtech	Are there any really great WYSIWYG Web Page development apps for Linux you recommend ? I want to get into it as a hobbyist thing, and im not very certain as to what linux has to offer in this field. I Can read pages all day long, but i figured as helpful as everyone is in this room we could get some opinions rolling in	17:56
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snarkster	i just di an upgrade and it still says there are upgrades beingheld back. Ive used sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and still have held back upgrades.	18:10
snarkster	how do i get the held back upgrades?	18:10
snarkster	damn pidgin	18:12
snarkster	anyway how do iget the upgrades that are being held back, and why are they being held back, plus how do you find out whats holding them back?	18:12
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kekeke	if i do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will it automatically install the 64bit edition?	18:58
Riddell	** Kubuntu meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting	19:01
suit	Is there a way to disable popups when hovering over a taskbar entry? I don't mean preview-thumbnails, those I've disabled, I'm talking about the little text thingie that pops up	19:14
suit	I'm a dork. Got it. Taskbar settings.	19:14
Planetary	my update notifier wont open. it just sits there in the tast bar. what do i do. i have over one hundred updates	19:17
sep1318	is the icon clear?	19:17
Planetary	no it looks normal	19:18
sep1318	that's what i mean, srry.	19:18
Planetary	a cog with an arrow	19:18
sep1318	right.	19:18
Planetary	k	19:18
sep1318	I don't know off the top of my head, but if you're comfortable, I can tell you how to update via the command line.	19:19
sep1318	(which should make it go away)	19:19
Planetary	ok sounds good	19:19
Planetary	terminal open	19:20
sep1318	sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	19:20
Planetary	cool, its doing its thing	19:21
Planetary	thanks	19:21
sep1318	no problemo.	19:21
roconnor	Is Skanlite the prefered scanner application in Kubuntu 9.04 ?	19:21
sep1318	roconnor: I don't know, I don't have a scanner hooked up to my machine. :-\	19:22
roconnor	also, is there an app in Kubuntu 9.04 to monitor my batter with a little icon on my toolbar?	19:23
sep1318	ther's a battery plasmoid, yeah.	19:24
sep1318	there's*	19:24
roconnor	sep1318: under add widgets?	19:24
sep1318	yessir, roconnor	19:24
roconnor	thanks	19:24
sep1318	np	19:25
roconnor	heh, kinda big, but better than nothing	19:25
sep1318	yeah, I know what you mean.	19:25
enigmatic	hello... I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and it's crashing on me every few minutes	19:39
enigmatic	it just locks up and dies every few minutes, completely without warning	19:40
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dschulz	Hi all. I'm using KGpg 2.2.0, KDE 4.3.0 and it seems imposible to use keyservers, all buttons disabled	19:44
dschulz	i mean, all options related to keyservers are disabled. And no, the keyservers list is not empty.	19:45
dschulz	does anyone knows why this happens?	19:45
enigmatic	what's the best way to make Kubuntu stop locking up? are there logs I can look at to help figure out why it's crashing in the first place?	19:45
sep1318	enigmatic: I don't really know what to tell you. :(	19:46
sep1318	dschulz: I don't know about that, either. I installed Kgpg a bit ago, and it doesn't even give me a menu item. I have to start it via the command line. So maybe a bug?	19:47
trampel	enigmatic: (given so little info) i guess i'd look at the output of dmesg ...?	19:47
Caliostro	Hi, all	19:49
Caliostro	Who has experience with configurating gfxmenu in grub? ;)	19:50
sep1318	Caliostro: Not me.	19:51
enigmatic	trampel: I've checked dmesg and nothing useful appears there -- ditto for /var/log/syslog and /var/log/syslog.0	19:52
trampel	enigmatic: if there's no error message at all. just always exactly 3 minutes 23 seconds of peaceful bliss and then wham black-screen. then i'd start considering hardware... maybe.	19:55
trampel	you so lie sep1318! ...aren't you like the author of gfxmenu??	19:56
trampel	(what the hell is gfxmenu?)	19:57
sep1318	trampel: umm....no.	19:57
trampel	don't believe him Caliostro!	19:58
enigmatic	trampel: I think it might be hardware. the problem intensified after I enabled visual effects (which worked fine in Ubuntu on this computer), and I turned them off last time I rebooted and have lasted an entire fifteen minutes without crashing :)	19:58
sep1318	trampel: gfxmenu has to do with pretty backgrounds on grub menus, methinx.	19:59
trampel	enigmatic: graphics driver..?	19:59
enigmatic	does Kubuntu use different drivers than Ubuntu or something? I had Ubuntu 9.04 installed on this computer a couple of days ago and compiz was working fine	19:59
sep1318	Caliostro: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-gfxmenu-documentation-617473/http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-gfxmenu-documentation-617473/	19:59
trampel	aha! so you do know _something_.... ;)	19:59
apparle	hi guys	19:59
sep1318	trampel: courtesy of google, our benevolent lord and mster	19:59
trampel	amen.	19:59
apparle	My optical drive is not working....can I run the live CD iso through USB(1GB)	20:01
sep1318	apparle: surely!	20:02
sep1318	(if you can boot from usb)	20:02
sep1318	check out unetbootin	20:02
apparle	ok I'll chck	20:03
dschulz	sep1318: i see in the kde 4.3 release announcement "KGpg,... integrates Solid for detecting the availability of a network connection"	20:03
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dschulz	it may be a bug	20:03
apparle	ok bye	20:04
sep1318	dschulz: yeah. or something larger, since the network plasmoid is dummied too.	20:04
sep1318	or that could be just a coincidence	20:04
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enigmatic	is KDE 4 particularly buggy? Ubuntu 9.04 had almost no crashes on this computer, but as soon as I installed Kubuntu 9.04 on the same computer programs started crashing (and activating visual effects sent the entire computer into oblivion)	20:13
enigmatic	e.g., I'd turn on the computer, connect to a wifi network, and I'd get a popup notification that something had crashed and asking me to submit a bug report, and the wifi wouldn't connect	20:13
Dragnslcr	Could be a video card issue	20:14
sep1318	enigmatic: I don't know, I've hardly had more than the occaisional problem.	20:14
enigmatic	sep1318: every time I boot up Kubuntu something else crashes (or doesn't crash, but doesn't work -- wifi being a prime example)	20:15
enigmatic	what's a good way to diagnose all these crashes?	20:15
sep1318	I don't know. sorry. :(	20:16
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eitreach	Is it a known bug that Amarok doesn't continue a playlist automatically, or am I just doing something wrong?	20:22
cuznt	!botsnack	20:38
ubottu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	20:38
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nawar	hi	21:06
DaskreeCH	!hi nawar	21:07
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about hi nawar	21:07
nawar	have any one of you guys tried finding a solution for integrating his evolution with MS exchange 2007 server	21:07
DaskreeCH	!hi \| nawar Oh Didn't see you there!	21:08
ubottu	nawar Oh Didn't see you there!: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	21:08
DaskreeCH	nawar: Nope though #ubuntu might help	21:09
nawar	thanks	21:09
trampel	(and over at #ubuntu they'll say... "though #kubuntu might help"...)	21:10
kid	hi. i have ubuntu 9.04 now, if i download and install kubuntu-desktop by apt-get the kde version will be 4.3 or the one with kubuntu>	21:12
kid	?	21:12
Dragnslcr	kid- if you don't have the backports PPA, you'll get KDE 4.2 (I think 4.2.2, but maybe they got 4.2.4 into the standard repositories)	21:14
DaskreeCH	trampel: Not likely for evolution :)	21:15
trampel	DaskreeCH: though maybe for "MS exchange 2007 server bill-gates pajamas"	21:16
DaskreeCH	kid: You should get security updates for the one that came with Jackalope. Unless you make a change yourself or unless there is some very grave security bug that can only be addressed in a new version you will not get 4.3 normally	21:16
DaskreeCH	trampel: Yes that's possible but nawar specifically asked about evolution	21:17
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nawar	However, do you have a KDE-based solution for connection to MS excahnge 2007	21:26
DaskreeCH	nawar: OpenChange	21:30
timh	Hello	21:30
DaskreeCH	!hi \| timh	21:30
ubottu	timh: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	21:30
nawar	Thanks	21:32
timh	I have a strange question. Whenever I close down my irc client which I am typing on now - 'pidgeon' and put my computer to sleep, and then later on when I wake up my computer 'pidgeon' is open again!! I mean I did not open it when it was asleep and there are always tabs open on pidgeon which I don't recognise like 'Atlanta.ga.us.dal.net', 'noname.ix.us.dal.net' ???? What is happening to my computer when it is supposedly asleep. Has	21:35
DasEi	timh: you speak of pidgin, I guess ?	21:37
timh	Yes sorry.	21:38
timh	Pidgin.	21:38
timh	Sorry I don't understand why Pidgin is always open when I wake my computer from suspend with those strange tabs open that I mentioned????	21:39
DasEi	timh: when you just close the window, pidgin runs on, so you can receive pm's as well as messages from re-connecting, to close it use killall pidgin or close buddy list , too ( or set to offline)	21:39
timh	Ahh . Thanks. Where is set to offline. I can't find it?	21:41
asac_	how do i tell cmake to output the compile command used?	21:45
asac_	i only see short output ... "building xxxx.o"	21:45
asac_	i want the gcc command run ;)	21:45
asac_	thx	21:45
asac_	oops	21:45
asac_	wrong channel ;)	21:45
FloodBotK2	asac_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	21:45
asac_	FloodBotK2: thanks. i am just fast in typing ;) -> kubuntu-devel now	21:46
asac_	bye	21:46
timh	Another question. At work we use ubuntu. Everyones machines have their printers set-up to work with the printer cups server. How can I set-up my computer to print as well. I mean are there printer config files that I can scp across from my colleagues machines to my machine to get the printers set-up?	21:53
DasEi	timh: if you talk to someone particular, put nick in it, or message gets lost; budy list let's you set offline (bottom)	21:55
DasEi	timh: no, you would attach your machine to the network the printer server is on, then go printer-setup > network printer	21:56
DasEi	that app has a search function which usually finds responsible printers on a network	21:57
timh	but i can't connect to them, it won't let me print a test page	22:09
timh	asks for a username and password	22:09
timh	Do you think that is the username and password of the cups server itself?	22:12
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OffPlanet	hello,kubuntu noobie, did wibi jaunty install on ASUS u81 laptop, ?quassel buffer view window word wrap - How do I turn it on?	22:46
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Jonah	hey guys, just updated through backports repo to kde 4.3, now when i boot up the screen is a big mess, all squiffy, mouse moves about but i can't do anything! i can't even press alt,ctrl-f2	23:03
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Jonah	can anyone please help me out?	23:06
Jonah	is there a way to turn desktop effects off via terminal if i boot to failsafe, that may help...?	23:12
reya276	Can i install KDE 4.3 on top of Ubuntu Jaunty running Gnome?	23:16
reya276	Can i install KDE 4.3 on top of Ubuntu Jaunty running Gnome?	23:20
tommy_the-dragon	does anyone know what pda i should get? i want something that is (at least fairly) compatible with ubuntu, mac OS X and windows, and something that can run java	23:21
tommy_the-dragon	with a fairly decent battery life	23:21
tommy_the-dragon	could anyone reccomend anything?	23:21
reya276	dell XPS m1330 that is what I got and is pretty solid	23:21
tommy_the-dragon	ok ill have a look	23:22
tommy_the-dragon	thats a laptop is it not?	23:22
reya276	yes	23:23
tommy_the-dragon	i was looking for pda	23:23
tommy_the-dragon	a handheld of some description	23:23
tommy_the-dragon	i know nothing about pda's you see	23:24
tommy_the-dragon	i primarily want to use it for a personal organiser however it would be good to be able to code my own apps for it (hence the java being a neccesity)	23:26
reya276	tommy_the-dragon: then I would get a Palm Pre	23:27
reya276	ok if I wanted to install KDE 4.3 I would do 'sudo apt-get install kde-4.3' ?	23:29
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tommy_the-dragon	atm im thinking ipaq	23:45
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