[00:00] phh: thanks, that fixed it [00:00] great [00:08] great now i have no package managers. can someone please help me get synaptic package manager installed [00:12] got nevermind [00:12] got it [00:19] Planetary, you should still have apt-get [00:42] hey [00:44] first time on kubuntu [00:46] !welcome | bishop [00:46] bishop: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [00:46] thanks [00:47] tried any other linux OSs ? [00:47] really like kde never used it before [00:47] ok [00:48] most distos [00:49] lot of time on ubuntu mint solaris etc [00:49] yeah , I started with knoppix and most popular distros that were around back then [00:49] bluekaj never tried debian [00:49] glad to hear you like kde [00:50] debian with gnome and ubuntu are he same IM [00:50] good interface. easier to use than gnome for me [00:51] much difference between those 2? [00:52] (k)ubuntu are both debian based OSs [00:52] gottcha [00:53] both use the apt package system [00:53] and repository systems are very sismilar [00:53] really find apt pack system effective [00:54] yes very , especially when compared to other distos like suse and the RPMs like fedora and redhat [00:56] i dumped vista much prefer linux [00:57] find it diverse and u have to learn how to use it. i like that. [00:58] just stopping by no concerns right now [00:58] I still use vista and W7, due to wife and friends being not too adventurous with their pcs :) [00:59] i like dual boots but windows is heavy on system resources [01:00] they kind of depend on me when things go wrong ...sometimes it's a pita but ... [01:00] yeah [01:00] so your media is working ok etc ? [01:01] i really am impressed with kde [01:02] ok [01:02] yeah kde is much improved now [01:04] big time... used it a while ago and went back to ubuntu. i much prefer kde...like the feel of it [01:07] blueskaj gottago now bbak soon...thankx === marcia is now known as miak === marcia is now known as miak === pikohn is now known as mike === mike is now known as pikohn === Peeko is now known as Revolt === Revolt is now known as Hazaard [01:56] Hello! Does anyone know any good bios password cracking tools other than cmospwd and removing the battery? [01:57] Been googling fyi :] [02:05] hi. sometimes firefox hangs and then it won't (re)start (after killing the process) [02:05] I mean, it won't restart clicking on the icon on KDE menu [02:06] it will launch fine if run from a terminal, for example [02:08] uff, why kde 4.3 feeels soo sloww in kubuntu 9.04? [02:09] hi all [02:09] uff, why kde 4.3 feeels soo sloww in kubuntu 9.04? [02:09] is fucking slowww [02:10] really? [02:10] yes mother cuker [02:10] fucker [02:10] !language [02:10] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [02:11] was just thinking about to update [02:11] ok sorry mather facker [02:11] LINUX SUCKS!!!!!!!!! [02:11] KDE SCUKS! [02:11] marco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:11] GNOME ROOLZ [02:11] FREEBSD ROCKS! [02:11] marco: We're not forcing you to be here, you may part when you're ready. [02:11] xD [02:14] is it worth to update to 4.3.... [02:14] or better to wait? [02:14] yes [02:14] wait? [02:15] no upgrade now lol, you have no clue what your missing out on [02:15] Have you read some of the reviews? [02:15] i don't like the network manager [02:15] wicd i use [02:16] i read about slowliness... [02:17] no some of the reviewers have no clue what they are talking about, performance is better [02:17] This is what you should really read: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/ [02:17] anyway... [02:18] it is possible to downgrade.. [02:18] Is it? Yes I believe so [02:19] yes, i was reading kde.org [02:24] MTGap - third party sources are generally more reliable... [02:25] FullMetalJock - check what hardware the reviewers are using, and compare that to your own. Don't just trust kde.org, even though it's non-profit, it still competes with gnome, and shouldn't be taken as pure truth. [02:28] i am to upgrade... [02:28] further i use synaptic [02:28] not that rubbish kpackage [02:29] but I hate gNoMe [02:30] And I don't bother with a GUI and go right through the command line - yes? [02:30] too [02:30] apt-get uber alles [02:31] is there any other office suites besides open office for linux? [02:31] koffice [02:32] ok [02:35] ok dude [02:35] au revoir [02:35] ciao [02:35] Bye [02:36] hello, i am trying to do. 'sudo gedit /ect/modules' it doesnt work. i realize thats for gnome. so i did kate instead and got errors. then kate opened and its blank. is there something wrong? [02:37] It's /etc/, not /ect/ [02:38] Planetary^ [02:41] oh nice. thanks man === Cueball is now known as Cueball_ [03:14] I HEARD THIS IS THE TEXT VERSION [03:15] i want to enter fonts into the blacks creen but i seem to have a desktop [03:15] is this the white people version of linux or not [03:15] i heard it supports black [03:16] My computer has 750g is that fast enough for ubantu? [03:16] the black version is superior, si o no? [03:16] you have to admit kubuntu is amazing. [03:17] On kubuntu how do I hide my porn from my wife? [03:17] pikohn: how do i make it text version so i can enter fonts === phil_ is now known as philf [03:17] ubantu_dude: encrypt it ? *shrug* [03:17] make a user specifically for porn [03:17] no idea... [03:17] well it has to super secure [03:17] because she cant find out I umm switched teams [03:17] i should know that...but i dont [03:18] pikohn: do you diddle little kids [03:18] how do i get compiz to start default in 9.04 [03:18] ubantu_dude: i think this is probably beyond the scope of this channel. [03:19] lol === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball [04:13] What's the suggested way to get java (to enable firefox to do java. FF plugins?) - 1) from the ubuntu package? which package - which package name? 2) fron sun? [04:29] noone here? [04:30] yes but i am not helpful [04:31] What happened to the apt package manager in kde for ku804? was that synaptic?? Now there is only the low functionality KPackageKit?? [04:31] murry: at least you let me know i'm not the only one alive here. ;) [04:32] yeah ur alive, i don't have an answer, sorry [04:32] ;) === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [04:42] hi [04:43] how do i make sure the "sidebars" in kate never ever show up again ? [04:44] i hate those sidebars... i tell kate to hide them, i save session, as default , i restart kate... thoses horrible sidebars are back :( [04:44] i want to make them disappear for good [04:54] всем привет [04:55] plotnikaleks: #ubuntu-ru pojaucta [04:57] grr whats teh scim package thatll get me cyrillic? === wsr3193 is now known as raghorn [05:21] i have installed xchess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions? [05:25] i have installed xchess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions? [05:26] hello, any body here? [05:26] i need help [05:27] hi? [05:28] i have installed xboard chess and its consuming 800mhz of processor even when idle. this causes excessive heating. any solutions? [05:28] hi, i need help [05:28] forain jus typr the question [05:29] kalp, first i'm brazillian and don't speek very weel english.. [05:29] my problem is i can`t brownsble in internet with konqueror.. [05:29] only for w3m [05:29] forain, your english is much better than my brazillian :) [05:30] rosco_y, hahaha [05:30] forain ask the question, if anyone knows the answer , he/she will tell you [05:31] kalp: well, my problems is i can't brownsable in internet.. [05:31] konqueror ansewer this for me " [05:31] An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com: [05:31] Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/. [05:31] forain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:32] forain are using the same network right now? [05:32] yes [05:32] forain: and the same computer? [05:32] yes [05:32] i can't connec msn for kopete too [05:32] connect* [05:33] but i can brownseble with w3m in internet [05:33] forain: check konquror settings, if you have put any proxy settings [05:33] forain what is w3m [05:33] w3m is a brownser in text mode [05:33] like lynks, elinks, etc [05:34] forain so ur network is fine [05:34] forain: check for proxy settings and ip settings in konqueror [05:35] yes, i know [05:36] i'm looking konqueror configurations now [05:37] i'm try download firefox.. [05:42] hey === administrador is now known as Ubuntu [05:44] i noticed that kde has been revamped. [05:44] maybe improved is a better word [05:47] installed ubuntu... added kde [05:47] .fonts.conf doesn't work anymore on karmic ? === forain is now known as forain_ === forain_ is now known as forain [05:59] hey masksmaid [05:59] sorry marksmaid [05:59] getting later [06:00] leaving [06:15] What happened to the apt package manager in kde for ku804? was that synaptic?? Now there is only the low functionality KPackageKit?? [06:15] there was no synaptic [06:15] synaptic is gtk, thus only in gnome [06:15] ie, where is that in904? [06:15] adept was in kubuntu, but the only working version is kde3-only [06:16] ya i ask this earlier [06:16] you can install synaptic if you want [06:16] yeah, adept, probably [06:16] thats what i did [06:16] be aware itll pull in gtk dependencies [06:16] synaptic thats what i installed [06:16] adept - if that was the name - was great - much better thank KPK [06:17] i have a compiz question [06:17] *shrug* i can use kpk. i was horribly lost the one time a kde user asked me for help fixing his package manager. i used konsole instead because i didnt understand adept's gui === mike is now known as Guest80992 [06:17] (i never succeeded in using kde 3 for >5 minutes without becoming horribly confused) [06:17] Planetary: whats up? [06:18] Are there any KU dev's here? Anyone know when some functionality like Adept will be available in KU 904? [06:19] my cube is messed up when i rotate it. its a new install. i was customizing it and now when i rotate it using the mouse it glitches and jumps around but its only when moving up and down.. its not my mouse [06:20] maybe the "sync to vblank" setting? [06:20] john_re: when someone adds that functionality to kpk? [06:20] john_re: thanks for the reminder that i promised to hunt down a segfault in policy kit that was tripping up the kpk dev though [06:20] maco, didnt help [06:21] dunno. i thought maybe was a refresh issue [06:21] there is a "reset all settings" button somewhere in it [06:21] oh what does the refresh rate do and the output do? [06:21] john_re: oh wait it wont be in 904 at all period [06:22] john_re: some future version of kubuntu will have it [06:22] i ahve turned it off and on and it didnt help [06:22] 910 should have more features like warning on unauthenticated packages [06:22] Planetary: refresh rate tells how many times to draw the screen per second [06:23] Planetary: think of a cartoon or flip book with fewer images per second...looks all jerky. more images = smoother [06:23] ya well it doesnt seem to do anything [06:24] boo [06:24] and you said you tried the big reset button? [06:25] i wasnt sure what its purpose really did.. refresh rate [06:25] tryign that now [06:26] ahh so where is this reset button [06:27] uhhhh whats the last thing on the left side of the compiz settings manager? [06:27] advanced maybe? [06:27] its in there [06:27] thats advanced search [06:27] i dont have compiz installed anymore but i used to use it all the time. pretty sure a button exists === oszkarlovas is now known as ocindustries [06:27] if you go in there, whats on the right? has two tabs i think? [06:28] trey do exist on certain functions [06:28] i think where it lets you load a backed up copy of the settings or have multiple settings profiles is where the reset button is [06:28] yeah but there's a universal one somewhere [06:29] hmm [06:30] found it [06:33] i renabled it... its better but still not smooth like all my other ones [06:35] ok well i guess its good. thanks for the help [06:38] ah well do you think reinstalling it would help === rene is now known as Guest68864 [06:57] Hello all,Its my first time logged in to my Ubuntu machine [06:57] i start terminal and run "su" command [06:58] after I enter my correct password it tells su:Authentication failure [06:58] arash: try "sudo su" [06:58] I am 1000% sure my passwors is correct [06:58] sudo su [06:58] arash: Ubuntu doesn't use a root password, you nned to use sudo [06:59] need* even [06:59] :) [06:59] rosco_y: no [06:59] ? [06:59] aha it works out:) [06:59] thanks [06:59] you bet [06:59] arasarasyou are welcome [07:00] sry, I need some more coffee first [07:02] how can i install yum in Kubuntu? [07:02] arash: using apt, though its a very bad idea to mix apt and yum. they dont share a pakage db [07:02] so they wont know what the others have installed [07:03] sorry for asking, im novice..so you suggest using apt instead of yum? [07:04] arash: that's the default package methode for Ubuntu and all Debian-like distributions [07:05] I tried apt-get install yum [07:05] it tells E: Couldn't find package yum [07:05] oh i guess yum's not in the repo anymore then [07:05] yeah, you wanna use apt-get [07:05] arash: you don't understand: yum is only use in SuSE, and for RPM package based distributions [07:05] I want to install some packages.What command do you suggest? [07:05] apt-get [07:06] aha...thanks. [07:06] yum is for red hat and fedora. suse doesnt even use it anymore. they use zypper now [07:06] maco: oh, didn't even know that :) Seems I haven't touched an RPM based distro in ages :) [07:07] arash: to search for packages you do apt-cache search [07:07] and to install you use 'sudo apt-get install [07:07] thanks a lot [07:07] minus the ', of course [07:08] arash: you are welcome :) [07:08] or we could make this simple [07:08] aptitude search [07:08] aptitude install [07:08] aptitude remove [07:08] maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:08] FloodBotK2: shush you [07:08] aptitude search has the bonus of being alphabetized :P [07:11] upinstall “Ement Tools” [07:11] upinstall? [07:11] arash: what would that be? [07:11] sorry that was worong [07:11] and don't use " [07:11] I am trying to install GNU Radio in my Kubuntu [07:11] what do you want to install in the first place? [07:12] but the manual is for Fedora [07:12] that why i am stuck [07:12] ook, let's see [07:12] oh i suppose you need these too "aptitude update" (check for updates) "aptitude safe-upgrade" (install updates that dont involve adding/removing anything) "aptitude full-upgrade" (necessary for things like adding a new kernel version) [07:12] do aptitude search Gnu Radio will show you the available packages [07:13] arash: the package name is gnuradio [07:13] yum groupinstall "Engineering and Scientific" "Development Tools" [07:13] so: sudo apt-get install gnuradio [07:13] sorry for interrupting [07:13] arash: stop talking about yum, that doesn't work here :) [07:13] i know that...but before hand i have to install some other packages [07:14] arash: what you need is a package manager, which Kubuntu do you use? [07:14] which version that is? [07:14] gnuradio isnt in the repos, Mamarok [07:14] let me check [07:14] maco: it is in mine [07:14] not in karmic then [07:14] so says aptitude [07:14] Mamarok: or is it multiverse? [07:14] well, I bet he hasn't karmic :) [07:14] arash: no need to manually install dependencies [07:15] Mamarok: well i was only checking from my system :P [07:15] its Kubuntu 9.04 [07:15] arash: the point of apt is to find those dependencies and install them for you. you tell it you want gnuradio and it figures out all the rest to grab [07:15] aaahh ok yes it is a multiverse package [07:16] arash: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list [07:16] so it can even find and install myriad of packages mentioned in the manual ? [07:16] yes [07:16] maco: what would that be for now? [07:16] thats why it exists [07:16] Mamarok: to enable multiverse [07:16] arash: just type 'sudo apt-get install fnuradio', that will do [07:16] maco: which is enabled by default in a basic install... [07:17] Ok.. [07:17] gnuradio* even [07:17] Mamarok: REALLY? [07:17] i thought only main and restricted were! [07:17] maco: well, I have always had it enabled when I installed a new system [07:17] maco: main, universe multivers and restricted [07:17] so it will go thru and download and install Python , NUmpy,sdcc and ...all other packages? [07:17] oh wow [07:18] arash: yes [07:18] arash: back in the days when only rpm and dpkg existed, installing stuff was a pain in the rear because you had to do this yourself. people noticed it sucked, so they created apt, then yellow dog linux folks created yum and fedora borrowed it [07:19] and suse borrowed it for a while but they gave it back now :P [07:19] arash: given you mentioned dev tools, im assuming the manual was leading you donw the annoying path of compiling it yourself instead of just installing it from the package manager [07:19] Wow! and you have to define and isntall all of these packages and dependencies for a fedora machine?! [07:20] fedora probably has a package too [07:20] * Mamarok needs more coffee [07:20] I guess so..let me check the past page of manual [07:20] like i said, im guessing the manual is telling you how to compile it instead of saying "install it. now to configure it...." [07:21] well yes..you're true [07:21] it is telling how to make and compile [07:21] and building it [07:21] there are two ways to install things in most OSes: compile by hand (somewhat annoying) or install a binary (think an rpm on red hat/fedora, a deb on debian/ubuntu, a Setup.exe on windows, a .dmg on OSX...) [07:22] which OS are you coming from? === rene is now known as Guest95957 [07:24] well sorry to say (I feel it;s like a crime!) but I used windows [07:25] now i am swithing to linux [07:25] arash: don't feel like this, most people did so, too :) [07:26] aye [07:26] im just wondering which analogy set to use :P [07:26] * Mamarok started with DOS 3... [07:26] or was it 2.2? [07:26] though im kinda glad you said windows because my OSX-->Linux convert set isnt too well fleshed out yet. havent gotten much practice with it [07:26] can't even remember [07:27] i couldnt use my computer til i got a win95 machine. could never find any disks for the old DEC with CPM-80 [07:27] oook, what about shifting this to #kubuntu-offtopic and go back to support here? :) [07:31] can I ask are you voluntary do the support ? [07:32] yep [07:32] I remember once before i cam here and asked my questions [07:32] its 230 in the morning here [07:32] and I remember your ids' [07:32] So you're in east coast [07:32] yeah [07:32] thanks for your help guys [07:32] np [07:32] i really appreciate it. [07:37] this seems silly I cant use Amarok to play my music files! [07:37] Amarok->Play Media...> then I point to my mo3 files [07:38] and it doest just work.No track to play [07:40] got mp3 codecs installed? try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras to get flash, java, mp3, aac, etc. [07:49] When you try to install a package by apt-get and it alerts it couldnt find the package , how should I show the path to system so it can find it? [07:49] it says it couldnt find that? [07:49] yes [07:49] apt doesnt install locally downloaded debs. for that youd use "dpkg -i foo.deb" [07:50] ummm thats odd [07:50] root@arash:/home/arash# sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras [07:50] Reading package lists... Done [07:50] Building dependency tree [07:50] Reading state information... Done [07:50] E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras [07:50] arash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:50] kubuntu-restricted extras doesnt actually contain anything just depends on java, flash, and codecs to pull them in [07:51] it should exist....maybe you jsut need to update the package list [07:51] sudo aptitude update [07:51] if it hasnt been updated once after install it wont know whats available [07:52] its updating now.. [07:52] Mamarok: you take over, please? is bedtime... [07:52] Sure. [07:52] thank yuo very much fo r your help.. [07:53] poke her if she doesnt seem to be watching :P [07:56] maco: ok, I am here :) [07:56] maco: good night :) [07:57] arash: does it find kubuntu-restricted-extras now? [07:58] yes ! now it downloading extra packages need for that.Thanks! [07:58] good :) [07:59] So eveytime I want to update my Kubunto I jjust run this sudo aptitude update? [08:00] What does sudo and aptitude commands mean in general ? [08:01] arash: well, sudo aptitude update will update the latet package list, then sudo aptitude full-upgrade will update the system, yes [08:01] sudo goves you administrator rights [08:01] and aptitude is the package management for the command line [08:01] gives* [08:01] sorry for the typos [08:01] you're welcome .. [08:02] does it have a GUI based package management ? [08:02] in Kubuntu I mena [08:02] I mean,sorry. [08:02] arash: yes, if you open the menu, there are the system settings and you will see a "Add and remove software" option there [08:03] arash: but the command line gives you more information and is not difficult to learn [08:03] it is much faster anyway :) [08:03] i want to make my ubuntu partition bigger but its locked(not mounted i just tryed to umount on my live cd) can someone tell me how to unlock it (i am on the live cd right now) [08:04] UBUNTU-ROCKZ-: do you have only one parition for your Linux system? [08:04] Yes..I just wanted to know.I enjoy it reminds me of somehow old DOS 6 and 5 days. [08:04] to make a partition bigger you will have to reduce the size of another one [08:04]