inside the yui-u? [15:13] salgado: noodles775: So I separated the too [15:13] salgado: You should. [15:14] sinzui: yes, it makes sense when thinking about re-using portlets on multiple pages. I hadn't thought about that. [15:15] noodles775: clearly I did not think about it too when I sent my draft rules. === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-afk [15:27] danilos: Here, includes radio buttons and copy button but no labels (requires id's to be set). [15:27] https://devpad.canonical.com/~henninge/mockups/translate-page/list.html [15:28] henninge: looks much, much better [15:29] danilos: glad to hear. [15:29] danilos: have you talked to Martin? [15:30] danilos: I have to go into town now to take care of something. [15:30] danilos: I remember you wanted to leave early today? [15:33] henninge: I am about to leave [15:33] danilos: ok, see you tomorrow! [15:33] I haven't had a chance to talk to beuno yet, but we'll be hunting him down tomorrow and on Thursday :) [15:36] cool, that'll be fun. I never went hunting before! === danilos is now known as danilo-afk === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [16:25] losa ping === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [17:32] sinzui: wgrant's message of https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg00329.html -- his suggestion that the 'null' project not be part of Launchpad Suite seems very sane to me. Any other factors here we should know about, or is this a JFDI? [17:34] kfogel: I know that a canonical employee created the project. It is not used the way we intend bugtasks to work. [17:35] kfogel: As I am tasked with solving the project-part-of problem, I think we can ask an admin to remove the project because we did not create it. [17:35] kfogel: I have demi-god powers. I think I can remove it right now! [17:36] sinzui: go for it! But you mean remove 'null' from 'Launchpad Suite', right? (Or do you mean remove 'null' entirely?) [17:39] correct [17:40] kfogel: it worked! [17:40] * sinzui likes being and registry-expert [17:41] sinzui: you demi-glazed demi-god, you [17:41] :) [17:42] kfogel: I presume /null was gifted to the registry-expert team because the real owner did not want bug mail. [17:43] sinzui: who knows. Is anyone going to get bug mail now? [17:45] Not the team I am in. [17:46] There are only 21 bug in the null project === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [18:04] * gmb EODs === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === bigjools is now known as bigjools-out [18:16] okay see you tomorrow people === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === dpm_ is now known as dpm === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === Edwin-afk is now known as EdwinGrubbs [19:06] leonardr: how do you handle circular references in lazr.restful webservice declarations? :( [19:07] barry: set the reference to Interface and then go in later and re-set it [19:07] there are many examples throughout launchpad + some helper functions. look in interfaces/user.py [19:09] leonardr: cool, thanks [19:17] leonardr: i wonder if things like operation_returns_collection_of() should take strings optionally, or whether some of the apihelpers (e.g. patch_collection_return_type) should be pulled into lazr.restful [19:18] barry: a later version of zope has some kind of defered reference which is how we were planning to solve the problem [19:18] cool. best not to reinvent the wheel! === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [21:41] yo [21:42] how can i tell who got merge proposal 10000? I got 9999, and herb got 10001 [21:44] Minor query, but why does edge still show "Launchpad 2.2.6"? Do we fail at updating version numbers or something? [21:45] gmb: I asked earlier. mrevell's branch fixes that [21:45] don't know status of the branch though, haven't looked [21:45] joey: Ah, okay. Ta. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:19] statik: you can't right now [22:19] statik: without a db query :) [22:19] sinzui: ping [22:19] thumper: ah, ok [22:19] hi thumper [22:20] statik: we were thinking of having a short hand redirect [22:20] statik: or maybe changing the canonical url [22:20] sinzui: call? [22:20] okay [22:56] intellectronica: Oh, the project bugs index isn't scheduled for a redesign? :( [22:57] that's one view that really, really needs it. [22:57] wgrant: project, most definitely. project group, yes, but maybe lower priority [22:57] intellectronica: Oh, damn, missed that. Sorry. [22:58] or maybe they'll be able to share the design, but project is really so much more important than project groups. there aren't many of them anyway [22:58] Yep. [23:00] thumper: https://pastebin.canonical.com/21028/ [23:02] thumper, skype? [23:05] sinzui: ping [23:08] Hi EdwinGrubbs [23:09] sinzui: can you think of any reason why the pagetests would cause view/+related-pages not to load at all, even though it appears fine when I use "make run"? [23:10] sinzui: queued ping [23:11] EdwinGrubbs: That is an interesting scenario. No I cannot think is a clever reason. When I see things like that I assume the test runner is in the wrong tree, or the test machine and devel machine have different branches [23:11] hi bac [23:12] EdwinGrubbs: is there a URL for your branch? [23:12] sinzui: very quick skype? [23:12] bac: I am ready [23:14] hey all [23:15] thumper, I think that's the shortest standup I've ever participated in that you also participated in. :) [23:16] I have been playing around with launchpad, and got everything to run using the current trunk except for mail features... [23:16] I get this: [23:16] 2009-08-12T00:06:15 ERROR QueueProcessorThread Error while sending mail from bounces@canonical.com to mymail@gmail.com. [23:16] Traceback (most recent call last): [23:16] File "/home/launchpadtest/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/lib/zope/sendmail/delivery.py", line 203, in run [23:16] unlink(filename) [23:16] rockstar: :) [23:16] OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/tmp/launchpad_mailqueue/new/1250028370.11349.machinehostname.1187667112' [23:16] is it usual for new launchpad installations? [23:16] couldnt find info about it in the wiki [23:17] motin_0, it's best to paste tracebacks in a pastebin, so you don't mask what other people are saying. [23:17] sorry, didnt realize it was so many lines [23:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/251626/ [23:18] motin_0, do you have a mailserver running locally? [23:19] rockstar: yes, apache can send mail fine. standard ubuntu lamp setup [23:20] sinzui: lp:~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/team-edit-pages and the failing test is xx-object-branding.txt [23:22] sinzui, your project 3.0 branch is amazing [23:22] I just saw one thing that looks odd [23:22] the "Does not use Launchpad for development." text [23:22] seems randomly placed [23:22] hmm, that may be bad markup then [23:23] sinzui, but this is awesome [23:23] you've outdone yourself [23:23] I owe you more alcohol than I can afford [23:23] beuno: I'll take a look at it. I'm going to add bugs and blueprints to the page after salgado lands his work (because I am reusing his portlets) [23:23] sinzui, fantastic [23:24] and the lack of edge updates has actually benefited us [23:24] the work will be rolled out more complete [23:24] during startup I get only one weird message, about mailman (which is mail list managing, not mail sending, right?) http://paste.ubuntu.com/251628/ [23:24] I'm off for a quick run, be back in 30' [23:24] I am going to hack on some tales stuff for person links, and the header and footer. I'll start the distro page tomorrow [23:29] matsubara: is there any way to get the nice oops rendering of https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py for launchpad.dev oopses? [23:29] thumper, yes [23:29] matsubara: how? [23:30] thumper, lp:~matsubara/oops-tools/oops-tools-django [23:31] thumper, that's the branch you want. There's a README with some setup instructions. [23:31] matsubara: fantastic, is this on the dev wiki anywhere? [23:31] Are lp-dev-utils/lp-qa-tools/oops-tools going to be public at some point? [23:32] wgrant, there are discussions about open sourcing lp-dev-utils. there are no plans to make lp-qa-tools/oops-tools public in the short term [23:33] thumper, nope. that tool is not used by a lot of people, so I'm keeping docs in the README file [23:33] matsubara: OK. [23:34] thumper, and since oops-tools is not open source, I guess it's confusing to have docs in the public wiki about it. [23:35] matsubara: ok [23:41] Wow, the new project page is good, if a little crashy. [23:42] (everything explodes due to a typo if the project uses blueprints) [23:43] hmmm. I'd love to start trying out launchpad for real but the current situation is that emails are not being sent from the server. no error messages in the log, nothing showing up in syslog (as mail usually does when sent from apache/php) - anyone can point me in the right direction to fix this? [23:43] motin_0: The emails should be sent to root@localhost, I think. [23:44] But if you just want to try out Launchpad (rather than hacking it), why not use staging.launchpad.net? [23:44] EdwinGrubbs: The TeamEditMenu (nav menu) is inheriting form TeamOverviewMenu (app menu). I think this is wrong. Move the common links in both to a mixin like I did in product. just searching on branding reveals that we are still defining links many times. I think we really want to use a mixin to create links, and menus just set which links are used. [23:45] sinzui: ok [23:46] wgrant: I meant hacking it :) I have been using launchpad in ubuntu projects for years [23:47] motin_0: Ah. Well, development Launchpads don't send email to the outside world, for obvious reasons. They connect to the local SMTP server and send to root. [23:47] EdwinGrubbs: I have seen menu problems several times in the past week. I will update the menu recipe in the conversion document with the kinds of problems we have encountered. [23:48] aha wgrant, that explains it :) I wanted to try with a new account, but best practice is, you say, to always use the admin@canonical.com account? [23:48] motin_0: Or create a new account, and check the local mailbox. [23:48] motin_0: Or use utilities/make-lp-user [23:49] wgrant: thank you very much for the info and the suggestions. this was really hard to know without asking someone like you [23:50] sinzui: Is the subheading in 3.0 meant to be present if it's identical to the context heading above the new breadcrumbs? [23:50] motin_0: I wonder if that bit is documented anywhere on the dev wiki. Let's see... [23:54] wgrant: just added it [23:55] motin_0: I don't see that change. [23:55] wgrant: really slow. still loading the save page [23:55] been doing it for several minutes [23:55] ah there [23:56] https://dev.launchpad.net/FAQ [23:56] Ah, good.