[01:41] <dashua> mac_v, Are there many theming papercuts filed?
[01:42] <dashua> Other than the Human theme being ugly =/
[04:17] <mac_v> dashua: i dont think so...
[04:18] <dashua> Just checking out Mr. Doobs boot mockup
[04:20] <dashua> Ok
[08:54] <thorwil> kwwii: morning. would you agree on deleting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/WINDOW_SWITCHER ?
[09:11] <mac_v> thorwil: that looks like a link to the windows guide 0.o hehe...
[09:11] <mac_v> thorwil: also , kwwii is on vacation
[09:12] <mac_v> thats his bot , spying on us ;p
[09:12] <thorwil> mac_v: ah, good to know. ok, then, do you agre on deletion? ;)
[09:13] <mac_v> thorwil: sure, delete it... that has nothing to do with artwork!
[09:14] <mac_v> thorwil: FYI, kwwii will be on vacation for 3 weeks ;p
[09:15] <thorwil> mac_v: afterwards he wants to check the IRC logs of 3 weeks?? 0.o
[09:16] <mac_v> yeah... that was his plan ;p , keeping tabs of all of us  , the ever seeing eye
[10:10] <mac_v> thorwil: did you ask for a purple boot screen... MadsRH has just granted your wish ;p
[10:11] <thorwil> mac_v: heh, but no lime!
[10:13] <MDC2> mac_v, have a screenshot / video of the purple one?
[10:13] <mac_v> MDC2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=bootsplash-demo2.jpg
[10:16] <MDC2> mac_v, hmm.. strange color...
[10:21] <zniavre> i like it it's very close to my own theme
[10:24] <MDC2> why so dark colors, whats wrong with bright light happy colors? :-)
[10:24] <zniavre> :o)
[10:26] <MDC2> you want people to see you're using ubuntu - not that your screen might died - right?
[10:27] <MDC2> especially when the theme is so dark (black) its nice with something completely different as background...
[10:27] <MDC2> or is that just me? :)
[10:28] <mac_v> zniavre: we may have a personal pref , but does that color fit official Ubuntu in anyway?
[10:28] <zniavre> color scheme is nt supposed to change from brown?
[10:28] <mac_v> no
[10:29] <zniavre> ha ok sorry
[10:36] <MDC2> :-(
[11:03] <mat_t> hi everyone
[13:38] <mac_v> mat_t: heya... so whats the boot screen verdict?
[14:20] <mat_t> mac_v: I guess we'll wait for more feedback... it's only been a day!
[14:42] <mac_v> :) ,
[15:55] <mac_v> dashua: i guess you havent reported many bugs on lp ? ;p
[16:02] <dashua> ?
[16:03] <dashua> Can you edit the summary?
[16:03] <dashua> =/
[16:04] <mac_v> dashua: anyone can edit the description and title , only the comments cant be edited
[16:04] <dashua> Ah
[17:16] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[17:36] <mac_v> andreasn: hi... i have a doubt... why dont the firefox icons change with themes? [only the folders change] when i asked in firefox , they said its because there is no gtk* icon in the label... is it possible to add symlinks with gtk labels?
[17:38] <andreasn> the items that use stock items are: back, forward, stop, reload, print, cut, copy and paste
[17:39] <mac_v> what about the history, bookmarks , recent* ?
[17:39] <mac_v> and html
[17:39] <andreasn> because the stock items are the only things that can be picked up from the system in a reliable manner because there is no way to tell that a complete icon theme is installed
[17:39] <andreasn> it pick up the html mimetype up
[17:40] <andreasn> and the recent stock icon was added to gtk in, hm, 2.14 or something like that
[17:40] <mac_v> andreasn: it doesnt :( ,  since there is no gtk stock for html
[17:40] <andreasn> and the minimum required version for Firefox 3.0 is something like gtk+ 2.8
[17:41] <andreasn> are you sure? Nothing shows up in Preferences > Applications?
[17:42] <mac_v> andreasn: those pick up the mime types , but not the bookmarks menu , the html is always the gnome icon
[17:42] <mac_v> since there is no gtk stock for html
[17:42] <andreasn> meeting, back later!
[17:43] <mac_v> oh ok.. :)
[19:37] <andreasn> mac_v, oh, it seems you're right. It does only use one style there
[19:38] <andreasn> since it's possible to pick up in the preferences dialog there, maybe it's possible in the menus as well
[19:38] <andreasn> try dom inspector and check what's going on there
[19:40] <andreasn> I can't seem to find the icon in the firefox source, so hm, I wonder what's going on here
[19:40] <andreasn> maybe it's a bug
[19:44] <mac_v> andreasn: i checked with asac , he said we need to use gtk stock icons for firefox , the icons which change are the gtk icons
[19:45] <mac_v> andreasn: his suggestion >  so if you come up with a list of icons used that are not in gtk, but that seem to have a valid gnome replacement that would be a good list to poke at
[19:45] <andreasn> but what would be the dependency for firefox to rely on?
[19:46] <andreasn> gnome-icon-theme?
[19:46] <mac_v> yeah
[19:47] <mac_v> andreasn: if we add symlinks to the appropriate icon and label the gtk-* correctly , this should fix this problem
[19:47] <mac_v> i think :)
[19:47] <andreasn> symlinks in gnome-icon-theme? we're trying to get rid of those in the long run
[19:48] <andreasn> the only issue I can see is that gnome-icon-theme don't promise any kind of API stability, like GTK+ does
[19:48] <mac_v> andreasn: yeah i was thinking symlinks , since the appropriate icons are prsent but are not used , then how do we fix this?
[19:49] <andreasn> I really don't know, maybe dobey have some ideas for how to deal with it
[19:49] <mac_v> firefox only depends on gtk stock :(
[19:49] <andreasn> he's the icon-names person
[19:49] <mac_v> oh ok :)
[19:51] <andreasn> also, at the time that we did the Firefox 3.0 icon work, most of the distros icon themes mostly differenced for the folder icons and the arrows and stuff
[19:51] <andreasn> and I guess that's still the same
[19:52] <andreasn> well, there is kde, and stuff intergrate bad there
[19:52] <andreasn> and the High Contrast issue
[19:52] <mac_v> andreasn: oops... i'm on #ubuntu-desktop , could you join?
[19:53] <mac_v> andreasn: ah i guess he is away :(