[00:00] <moonside> only a noob like me wouldn't understand that
[00:00] <moonside> thanks for help
[00:05] <proq> I'm having trouble creating a usplash for xubuntu 9.04.  when I apt-get source the xubuntu splash package, change the images and build, xubuntu doesn't recognize the resulting .so file.  but I can do this fine in ubuntu
[00:13] <proq> the startup manager doesn't report any errors when choosing this file, but xubuntu doesn't use the art on startup and shutdown - it just displays text instead
[00:16] <server_side> is xubuntu just ubuntu with xfce enviroment?
[00:23] <pteague_work> out of curiosity...  what font size is the text in the xfce4 panels by xubuntu default
[00:27] <pteague_work> found it...  that's weird that the xfce font size of 10 is about half the size of the kde font size of 9 >.>
[01:18] <ToStItOs> Darth Tux: How do I set up a external dial up modem
[01:18] <ToStItOs> I mean is it plug and play ?
[01:19] <Darth_Tux> it might be
[01:19] <Darth_Tux> not sure
[01:19] <Darth_Tux> what kind did you get/
[01:19] <ToStItOs> Trendent
[01:20] <ToStItOs> I don't need to install drivers right?
[01:20] <Darth_Tux> hold on, looking
[01:20] <ToStItOs> its the 560x model
[01:21] <ToStItOs> I looked on the main page and that model is compatible with linux
[01:22] <ToStItOs> I am just trying to figure out how to set up
[01:22] <Darth_Tux> well, i would try to see if it is plug n play in xubuntu
[01:23] <ToStItOs> so when I bring up Gnome ppp do I just do a auto detect on the modem?
[01:25] <Darth_Tux> http://howto-ubuntu.com/2008/03/03/how-to-dial-up-internet-on-ubuntu-with-gnome-ppp/
[01:28] <ToStItOs> So I guess I do auto detect huh?
[01:29] <Darth_Tux> i would try that
[01:29] <Darth_Tux> and then ppp
[01:29] <ToStItOs> The computer should detect the modem through the serial port correct?
[01:31] <ToStItOs> Once I hit the auto detect it should find it?
[01:32] <Darth_Tux> usb
[01:33] <ToStItOs> The modem I ordered is RS-232
[01:34] <happy-dude> hiya, I have a question:: how do I change my screensaver settings such that it has a login when it resumes activity?
[01:34] <happy-dude> (perferably, I would rather do this via a terminal command rather than the GUI tool)
[01:35] <happy-dude> nvm -- found it ^^
[01:35] <ToStItOs> Darth_Tux it should detect
[01:36] <Darth_Tux> i think so
[01:36] <Darth_Tux> but i could be wrong
[01:36] <ToStItOs> I'll mess with it when I get it
[01:36] <ToStItOs> I just wanted to know
[01:36] <Darth_Tux> np, hope i helped
[01:37] <ToStItOs> U did thanks a lot I appreciate the support
[01:38] <Darth_Tux> my pleasure
[01:38] <ToStItOs> I'll post back when I get it if I have problems or if it is working I'll come back thanks Darth Tux
[01:45] <newdev> my resolution is 800x600 & i want to change it to 1024x762
[01:47] <newdev> i can't find graphics drivers either
[01:47] <newdev> could someone please help me?
[01:50] <newdev> where can i get k8m800 graphics drivers?
[01:52] <Darth_Tux> hi newdev
[01:52] <newdev> hello
[01:53] <newdev> could you tell me what i should do to increase resolution?
[01:53] <Darth_Tux> googling it for ya now
[01:56] <Darth_Tux> i believe this is what you are looking for   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[01:59] <newdev> thanks a lot Darth_Tux
[02:03] <Darth_Tux> newdev, let me know how it does
[02:03] <newdev> Darth_Tux: i have installed the graphics driver
[02:03] <newdev>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[02:03] <newdev> how can i change the resolution now?
[02:04] <Darth_Tux> i would try logging out and in
[02:05] <newdev> i'll have to restart my machine to see the changes?
[02:10] <Darth_Tux> just restart X i think
[02:58] <acmeinc> Has anyone had any experience with virt-manager here?
[03:09] <acmeinc> Has anyone had a problem where virt-manager opens off of the main window.  I've tried it on several machines, each very different.  Virt-manager opens off of the top left of the screen each time.  The problem seems to be specific to xubuntu as I was unable to reproduce in ubuntu.
[03:19] <ubantu_dude> Hi Pici
[03:19] <fef> Pici: do you diddle little kids
[03:19] <ubantu_dude> Pici is going to ban me pretty soon so every please just consider yourself trolled and save me a bunch of time?
[03:19] <acmeinc> Has anyone had a problem where virt-manager opens off of the main window.  I've tried it on several machines, each very different.  Virt-manager opens off of the top left of the screen each time.  The problem seems to be specific to xubuntu as I was unable to reproduce in ubuntu.
[03:20] <fef> Pici: can you please splain to me why there is no hair yet
[06:20] <megamanx1978> can someone help with a xfce problem?
[07:30] <waan> How do you edit menu items, I have installed firefox 3.5 but the menu still points to the old firefox
[11:17] <Jhodas> morning channel
[11:19] <Jhodas> have the keyboard shortcuts changed in 9.04? I used to be able to resize and move windows with the kayboard but I cant now
[12:58] <SystemParadox> afternoon
[12:59] <SystemParadox> I've been messing with settings and startup scripts for xfce, and I've just noticed that a black rectangle (about 6x10 pixels) has appeared in the the top left of my screen. xwininfo for that area just says it belongs to the panel
[13:00] <SystemParadox> any ideas?
[13:00] <SystemParadox> the other issue I have is that totem is now opening every time I login. This is a very slow machine so I cannot have things like that happen.
[13:08] <TheSheep> SystemParadox: delete ~/.cache/sessions/*
[13:10] <SystemParadox> aha that looks promising
[13:10] <SystemParadox> ooo the black square is gone too
[13:11] <SystemParadox> next question: how can I remove hibernate from the shutdown options? It blows up on this machine
[13:12] <SystemParadox> does xfce use the gnome power settings? I set the can_hibernate in gconf to false and set it as required, but it hasn't changed anything in xfce
[13:15] <SystemParadox> yey totem doesn't autostart anymore. Thanks TheSheep
[13:19] <SystemParadox> eh? apparently there's supposed to be options for suspend/hibernate in the session and startup config, along with the session manager setting. There isn't in mine.
[13:19] <SystemParadox> Where did it go?
[13:20] <SystemParadox> seems that the gnome power manager tray icon settings doesn't have suspend as an option either
[13:20] <SystemParadox> (nor hibernate)
[15:54] <Darth_Tux> hi th0r
[15:55] <Darth_Tux> anyone know how to auto arrange the icons on the desktop?
[16:13] <likemindead> Quick question: What's the default media player for an audio CD in Xubuntu 8.04?
[16:14] <Darth_Tux> likemindead, i am not sure, someone will though
[16:14] <likemindead> It's a bit strange, but my LUG has a bunch of old computers that we loaded up with Xubuntu 8.04 to donate to those in need.
[16:15] <Darth_Tux> that is nicce
[16:15] <Darth_Tux> nice
[16:15] <likemindead> I performed updates on one & gave it to one of my wife's co-workers for her daughter.
[16:15] <likemindead> She just emailed me asking how to play a CD.
[16:16] <likemindead> I can't remember!
[16:16] <Darth_Tux> i am not running xubuntu atm
[16:17] <likemindead> Ha... me either... (CrunchBang here)...
[16:17] <deathtech> Sup fellas
[16:17] <likemindead> Does Xubuntu come with the codecs needed to play audio CDs out of the box?
[16:17] <Darth_Tux> hiya deathtech
[16:17] <likemindead> AHoy.
[16:18] <Darth_Tux> likemindead, i have a flakey cd drive, i dont even try to play cds
[16:18] <Darth_Tux> i dont think the codecs are installed out of the box though
[16:18] <Darth_Tux> could be wrong
[16:18] <deathtech> I am no expert at programming, but i have a general understanding of the concepts and procedures (old school batch file writer from teh BBS days, SMS Scripting) and i would like to expand my horizons. Im looking for some fingers to point me in the right directions to find an IDE / Language that would be relatively easy to pick up on, but wouldnt be a waste of my time learning
[16:18] <likemindead> I think you're right.
[16:18] <deathtech> Thoughts ?
[16:19] <likemindead> I think Python is the way to go.
[16:19] <Darth_Tux> i havent a clue likemindead
[16:20] <deathtech> Likeminded : i have heard a lot about that, i thought for some reason that language's time had come and passed, its still considered a pretty good language ? especialy for learning ?
[16:21] <likemindead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_%28programming_language%29
[16:21] <likemindead> I think so.
[16:21] <deathtech> Is there a recommended (n00b) ide ?
[16:21] <Darth_Tux> ide?
[16:22] <deathtech> Interactive Development Environment ( i think)
[16:22] <deathtech> sorta like netbeans
[16:22] <Darth_Tux> never used it
[16:22] <Darth_Tux> i have used eclipse and bluej
[16:23] <deathtech> I have heard of eclipse before, good stuff ?
[16:23] <Darth_Tux> its ok as i recall
[16:23] <deathtech> anything else you may recommend ?
[16:23] <Darth_Tux> running linux?
[16:24] <deathtech> Yes, and some MS Stuff
[16:24] <Darth_Tux> integrated Dev Environ
[16:24] <deathtech> ^ Ill go with that :)
[16:25] <Darth_Tux> here is a link to many   http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html
[16:26] <Darth_Tux> i would suggest trying a few till you get what you like, and ask people smarter than me lol
[16:26] <deathtech> Thanks , Darth :)
[18:25] <todor> hi
[19:57] <Roks> Hello guys
[19:58] <Roks> I was just wondering, how does Xubuntu get along with 3G broadbands nowadays?
[19:58] <Roks> I've used Ubuntu several times before and I remembered all the networking as a complete hell, and now I
[19:59] <Roks> I'm trying to give my old laptop a revival. I do not need any specific programs, just the basics, but I do need my broadband to work
[20:00] <Roks> So if anyone here has had any experience with this, please share it
[20:23] <Roks> Anyone?
[20:24] <cody-somerville> network-manager should support it out of the box
[20:26] <Roks> Even with an external USB-modem? I recall having to download something seperately on windows in order to get it in function
[20:30] <cody-somerville> Right click the network manager icon and then click "Edit Connections..."
[20:31] <cody-somerville> Then click on the Mobile Broadband tab
[20:31] <cody-somerville> and click add
[20:31] <cody-somerville> It should work if your device is supported
[20:31] <Roks> Great, do you know how to check if it is? I mean, before installing the whole system?
[20:38] <zoredache> Roks: a simple step might be to find the model of the card and search for it on google combined with the terms linux and ubuntu
[20:40] <Roks> Which card? I don't really know where the problem lies here...is it the network card or the USB-modem that will have a hard time working?
[20:50] <cody-somerville> Roks, the only way you'll be able to find out is if you try
[20:51] <Roks> Ok, thank you for your help, I guess it's trial and error from here on then
[21:06] <MTec007> how would i compile a very small program for use on windows? it was made for windows and would only be useful for windows but i find myself needing to recompile it now
[21:09] <MTec007> i have a makefile.win that was used in devC++
[21:15] <MTec007> it has 1 .h one .c and one .res and one .rc file for the entire program
[22:32] <proq> which package provides xfce for xubuntu?  it's obviously not xfce4, as that can be apt-get installed
[22:34] <th0r> proq: it is xfce4. Everything that makes up xubuntu can be installed a piece at a time
[22:35] <proq> why is it then that I can install xfce4 on my xubuntu system?
[22:35] <proq> it should tell me that it is already installed
[23:05] <zoredache> proq: what does it tell you?
[23:06] <proq> zoredache: it just installs it
[23:06] <proq> this is i386, xubuntu 9.04
[23:06] <zoredache> and what package manager are you using?
[23:07] <proq> aptitude.  I'm running apt-get install xfce4
[23:07] <proq> it's not a big deal.  it just made me curious as to what apt thought the xfce package was really called
[23:08] <zoredache> the meta package that does all of xubuntu is xubuntu-desktop.  If you look at the xubuntu-desktop package you can see all the packages it depends/reccomends on