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noisymouse | Hi, I'm started to work on triaging bugs - I can't figure out how to set the status to wishlist, it doesn't show up in the list of statuses. | 00:29 |
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micahg | noisymouse: only bug control members can set importance | 00:30 |
micahg | which bug? | 00:30 |
micahg | oh, and welcome! :) | 00:30 |
hggdh | <rant> why the hell people get to try to use X.509 certificates *without undertanding what they are doing> </rant> | 00:37 |
* hggdh feels better now | 00:37 | |
hggdh | hi micahg how's life? | 00:37 |
micahg | ok hggdh | 00:38 |
micahg | I was going to ask you about a bug | 00:38 |
micahg | I got a negative response, but I didn't think I did anything wrong | 00:38 |
micahg | bug 153133 | 00:38 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 153133 in firefox "update-manager seems to lose flash 9" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153133 | 00:38 |
hggdh | looking at it | 00:38 |
BUGabundo | hggdh: just had dinner with "emigrantes" from Ubuntu-FR | 00:40 |
BUGabundo | only you missing! | 00:40 |
Ampelbein | micahg: just ignore those comments. i usually do. if I feel like discussing, I reply with the CodeOfConduct standard-reply. | 00:42 |
hggdh | micahg, nothing wrong there. The only thing is you might have added a bit of sugar to your responses. But they were not aggressive, anyway. | 00:42 |
hggdh | BUGabundo, french people in the Porto?? | 00:42 |
micahg | ok hggdh, that's what I wanted to check...I try to add sugar if I'm not too tired :) | 00:42 |
hggdh | micahg, and Ampelbein is correct -- there are responses that you will live better if you ignore them | 00:43 |
hggdh | and -- of course ;-) -- thank you, micahg, for helping :-D | 00:43 |
* micahg just started subscribing to whole packages for bugs | 00:44 | |
micahg | that's why I got that | 00:44 |
hggdh | ah. Welcome to the deluge | 00:44 |
micahg | I've done it slowly | 00:44 |
micahg | only 3 packages right now | 00:44 |
BUGabundo | hggdh: portuguese, leaveing in Paris | 00:44 |
micahg | with low traffic | 00:44 |
micahg | as I get them more settled, I can add more | 00:45 |
BUGabundo | micahg: u should try ALL ubuntu bug mail for a day | 00:45 |
hggdh | that's a way to do it. And we will need more people to take over, so we all owe you. | 00:45 |
BUGabundo | I tried tath for 2 weeks | 00:45 |
BUGabundo | it was crazy | 00:45 |
micahg | BUGabundo: that's got to be insanity | 00:45 |
* hggdh did not survive the first 2 days | 00:45 | |
BUGabundo | close to it | 00:45 |
micahg | I only have 2GB of mail | 00:46 |
BUGabundo | aahaahahahahahah | 00:46 |
BUGabundo | I have HD | 00:46 |
micahg | I think I tried that for answers | 00:46 |
micahg | bug mistake | 00:46 |
micahg | *big | 00:46 |
micahg | BUGabundo: I use hosted IMAP for e-mail at the moment | 00:46 |
BUGabundo | been there too | 00:47 |
BUGabundo | lasted 2 months | 00:47 |
BUGabundo | stop reading after 2 weeks | 00:48 |
BUGabundo | I manage to keep in ubuntu-users for 3 years | 00:48 |
BUGabundo | stoped 3 months ago | 00:48 |
BUGabundo | 300-450 emails per day | 00:48 |
BUGabundo | no idea how there are ppl that actually reply | 00:48 |
micahg | filters | 00:49 |
hggdh | lotsa filters | 00:50 |
micahg | well, we've got over 62k open bugs | 00:50 |
micahg | and it doesn't seem to be going down | 00:51 |
BUGabundo | you have more then me | 00:51 |
BUGabundo | lOLOL | 00:51 |
BUGabundo | I have about 800 open bugs | 00:51 |
BUGabundo | prob 200 active | 00:51 |
micahg | I'm trying to clean up firefox and firefox-3.0 and migrate some to firefox-3.5 and close the ones that are no longer relavent | 00:51 |
BUGabundo | 40 generating daily email | 00:51 |
micahg | I have about 600 open ones that I'm subscribed to | 00:52 |
BUGabundo | making me get ~100 bug mails dailty | 00:52 |
hggdh | hum. micahg, does ff3.5 support the LP extensions? | 00:52 |
BUGabundo | yes | 00:52 |
BUGabundo | and 3.6 yoo | 00:52 |
hggdh | I have not tried yet | 00:53 |
* micahg is using the LP stuff | 00:53 | |
* hggdh is upgrading to 3.5 right now | 00:53 | |
hggdh | yay, I am in it. Time to trash 3.(0|1) | 00:56 |
Ampelbein | i defined some keyword searches to ease daily live, e.g.: "deb foo" in the adressbar expands to http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html?src=foo , similar for "ubu foo". "debbug 12345" gives me the debian bugreport, "lpbug 12345" the lp-report "gnomebug 12345" ... you get the idea | 00:57 |
hggdh | good idea... | 00:58 |
Ampelbein | hggdh: let me try to export those bookmarks and put them somewhere. | 00:59 |
hggdh | Ampelbein, thank you. IOU | 00:59 |
BUGabundo | time to hit the sack | 01:01 |
hggdh | g'night, BUGabundo | 01:02 |
Ampelbein | hggdh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~amoog/bookmarks.html | 01:09 |
hggdh | Ampelbein, thank you | 01:15 |
Ampelbein | you're welcome | 01:16 |
hggdh | yeeee I can be lazy again :-) | 01:16 |
hggdh | already in. Most welcome were the debbug & gnomebug :-) | 01:17 |
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Ushaib | can someone assist me in reporting a bug? I'm following the instructions for using apport. I opened gedit, "report a problem", it says a browser window will open with a form to type the bug description in, but nothing happens. | 03:44 |
Ushaib | So I guess we have a bug in the bug report app :P | 03:44 |
micahg | what version of ubuntu Ushaib | 03:45 |
Ushaib | 9.04 | 03:45 |
micahg | do you have firefox 3.0 installed? | 03:46 |
Ushaib | yeah, it is. I also installed Firefox 3.5 in my home directory, it's what I use, but I did not uninstall 3.0. | 03:46 |
micahg | ok | 03:46 |
micahg | hmm | 03:46 |
micahg | you can try ubuntu-bug gedit | 03:47 |
Ushaib | it's Firefox crashing apparently. | 03:48 |
micahg | hmm | 03:48 |
Ushaib | "The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error" | 03:48 |
micahg | ugh | 03:48 |
micahg | BadWindow? | 03:48 |
Ushaib | yes | 03:49 |
micahg | bug 401055 | 03:49 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 401055 in firefox "Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.5' received an X Window System error (BadWindow)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401055 | 03:49 |
Ushaib | ok, I'll use a different user (with no 3.5) to report the gedit bug. | 03:49 |
Ushaib | thanks for your help. | 03:49 |
micahg | no, that's not it | 03:50 |
grepory | i think there's already a bug filed for the browser not openintg | 03:50 |
grepory | if i find it again, i'll dupe | 03:50 |
micahg | yeah | 03:50 |
grepory | time for julie and julia :D | 03:51 |
micahg | Ushaib: can you open 3.5? | 03:51 |
Ushaib | micahg, yep, it's what I used to open that launchpad link. | 03:51 |
micahg | ah, ok | 03:51 |
micahg | so | 03:51 |
micahg | Here's where you can file a bug for gedit | 03:52 |
micahg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit | 03:52 |
Ushaib | no worries, I'll use another user to report my bug (one with 3.0 as his primary browser) | 03:52 |
hggdh | bcurtiswx, hi. Some two months ago you added an item to our meeting agenda. But you have not been there... care to expand on what you intended? | 03:53 |
Ushaib | thanks for the help | 03:53 |
micahg | np Ushaib | 03:54 |
micahg | hggdh: what do you think of my agenda item? | 03:54 |
hggdh | I like it, micahg | 03:55 |
scream | Pardon my question... but I could not find any documentation... | 03:55 |
scream | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/410297 | 03:55 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 410297 in sun-java6 "Sync sun-java6 6-15-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [High,Fix released] | 03:55 |
hggdh | now, when will be the meeting? | 03:56 |
scream | What time from when a fix is released, to it makes it on the repo (and then on my system) | 03:56 |
scream | ? | 03:56 |
micahg | scream: sync means for karmic | 03:56 |
hggdh | the package has been sent to the builder machines, and should be available soon | 03:56 |
scream | hggdh, oh... there is more to it then I realized... | 03:57 |
scream | Is there a wiki page that outlines the bug and fix (building) process? :) | 03:57 |
micahg | once it's in karmic, they usually backport it as a security release shortly thereafter | 03:57 |
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NonvocalScream | micahg, so I'll need to enable -backports? | 04:00 |
hggdh | scream, yes indeed there is more to it ;-) Now, if you are running < 9.10, and you think the Java update should make it to your version, you can "nominate for release", for example | 04:01 |
hggdh | NonvocalScream, ^^ | 04:01 |
NonvocalScream | ah | 04:01 |
micahg | NonvocalScream: no | 04:02 |
micahg | sorry | 04:02 |
hggdh | as I told you yesterday, you can always discuss your case on #ubuntu-hardened | 04:02 |
micahg | it will be in -updates or -security | 04:02 |
* hggdh does not deal with Java, if at all possible | 04:02 | |
NonvocalScream | hggdh, I don't remember that... but I'll go discuss. | 04:02 |
NonvocalScream | It is possible that I disconnected or walked away. | 04:03 |
micahg | hggdh: did I use the term wrong? | 04:03 |
micahg | It is a backport, but not a -backport backport, right? | 04:03 |
hggdh | NonvocalScream, please: ask your question/explain your issue, and wait. Patiently. | 04:03 |
hggdh | micahg, what term? | 04:03 |
hggdh | heh | 04:03 |
hggdh | am I slow or what? | 04:03 |
micahg | security team will backport java6 update to stable releases | 04:03 |
hggdh | I think it would be a -security | 04:03 |
NonvocalScream | hggdh, I will, and thank you for your help :) | 04:04 |
NonvocalScream | I have done so in the channel you referenced. | 04:04 |
hggdh | NonvocalScream, might help a bit to state what verison of Ubuntu you are running ;-) | 04:04 |
micahg | hggdh: I guess, I should just call it an SRU for simplicity | 04:05 |
hggdh | and thank you, BTW, both for prodding us here, and using Ubuntu, and being worried by this | 04:05 |
hggdh | micahg, guess so. I am unsure if it would be looked at as a security fix, or SRU. Given the way Java goes, SRU is probably more correct | 04:05 |
NonvocalScream | Jaunty | 04:07 |
hggdh | NonvocalScream, not here, at -hardened | 04:08 |
NonvocalScream | oh sorry | 04:08 |
hggdh | np | 04:09 |
bcurtiswx | hggdh: i just was hoping someone could talk about some new things for bug traigers... more of an idea than an "i have that to talk about" kind of thing | 04:09 |
bcurtiswx | hggdh: it appears as if the each meeting is not fitting with my schedule very well... including the next one :-\ | 04:09 |
bcurtiswx | hggdh: which I feel bad about.. | 04:10 |
hggdh | bcurtiswx, it is not a bad idea, and we *can* talk about it. It just helps to know what you meant ;-) | 04:10 |
bcurtiswx | hggdh: cool then :) | 04:10 |
hggdh | and the meeting would have been today, but I do not think it happened. | 04:10 |
bcurtiswx | its next tuesday | 04:11 |
hggdh | thanks. I will update the wiki, then | 04:11 |
NonvocalScream | So -hardened is where I go to discuss the security bugs in the future? | 04:12 |
hggdh | NonvocalScream, -hardened is the ideal place to discuss security issues, yes | 04:13 |
micahg | hggdh: I thought the wiki was already updated | 04:33 |
hggdh | no, it was not | 04:34 |
hggdh | g'night, all y'all. Bed awaits. | 04:38 |
dholbach | good morning | 05:49 |
alourie|work | good morning | 06:07 |
thekorn | good morning | 06:51 |
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andol | How do we set importance for build failures, in the development branch? Take bug #411890 for example? | 08:28 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 411890 in php5 "karmic: Compiling php fails with autoconf 2.64" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/411890 | 08:28 |
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alourie|work | how do I find what is the latest version of the Nvidia Driver planned for Karmic? | 09:08 |
Arcitens | Hi, I was told to come to this room because I'm having a bug in firefox 3.0.13 that completely freezes Ubuntu. Is it ok to ask for help in this room? | 09:09 |
alourie|work | Arcitens: have you looked at Ubuntu Answers and on forums for a possible solution? | 09:10 |
Arcitens | Yes and I was in the general #ubuntu room just before this. I couldn't find anything that described my situation. The person that was helping me in the general ubuntu room told me to come here. | 09:10 |
alourie | have you also tried to search the similar bug in bugs? | 09:13 |
Arcitens | I did. Both bugzilla and launchpad. Granted there are a lot of bugs to go through but I looked through quite a number and didn't find any that matched my situation. | 09:18 |
Arcitens | Perhaps I don't know what to search for though. | 09:18 |
alourie | Arcitens: I'm not sure this is the place for getting this kind of help ... | 09:22 |
Arcitens | Ok, that's fine. That's why I asked. Thank you. | 09:24 |
micahg | alourie: you could've sent the user to #ubuntu-mozilla | 09:24 |
micahg | oops | 09:24 |
micahg | #ubuntu-mozillateam | 09:24 |
alourie | micahg: thanks. I just wasn't sure where can I send him to. On the other hand, I wanted to mention that this is not the correct place for getting the kind of support he needed ... | 09:28 |
micahg | can you dupe a private bug? | 09:53 |
micahg | ping thekorn | 09:56 |
thekorn | micahg, hi | 09:57 |
micahg | can you dupe a private bug? | 09:57 |
thekorn | micahg, yes, if I have access to this private bug | 09:57 |
micahg | no, I can do it | 09:58 |
micahg | I'm wondering if it's possible | 09:58 |
micahg | to mark a private a dupe of a public | 09:58 |
thekorn | this means I have to be subscribed to this bug, directly or via a team I'm in | 09:58 |
thekorn | I think it is, let's try it | 09:59 |
micahg | seems to have worked | 10:00 |
thekorn | micahg, right it works, as long as you have access to the private bug | 10:01 |
micahg | cool | 10:02 |
micahg | thekorn: what's upstream for pango? | 10:06 |
thekorn | micahg, hmm, you are asking weird questions ;) | 10:10 |
thekorn | I don't know, lets try to find out | 10:10 |
thekorn | seb128, hi, do you know the answer to this question: <micahg> thekorn: what's upstream for pango? | 10:12 |
seb128 | GNOME | 10:12 |
seb128 | why? | 10:12 |
micahg | oh, was trying to figure out if there was an upstream for pango_ot_info_get | 10:12 |
micahg | crashes | 10:12 |
seb128 | should be fixed in pango 1.15.2 | 10:12 |
seb128 | I've uploaded it yesterday | 10:12 |
seb128 | what version do you use? | 10:12 |
micahg | ok | 10:12 |
micahg | I saw crashes in 5 different packages | 10:12 |
micahg | seb128: the firefox crash person had libpango 1.25.1 | 10:14 |
seb128 | micahg, good idea to keep uptodate on unstable | 10:15 |
micahg | did you mean 1.25.2? | 10:15 |
micahg | I'll ask the user to upgrade | 10:17 |
micahg | seb128: should I dupe the ff3.5 pango crash against the one you moved to pango? | 10:52 |
seb128 | micahg, which one? | 10:52 |
micahg | bug 412107 | 10:53 |
ubot4` | micahg: Bug 412107 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/412107 is private | 10:53 |
micahg | you moved bug 412175 | 10:53 |
ubot4` | micahg: Bug 412175 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/412175 is private | 10:53 |
seb128 | micahg, I did reassign and close it | 10:54 |
micahg | thanks :) | 10:55 |
seb128 | thank you for pointing it | 10:55 |
micahg | np, I finally found some crashes I could do something with :) | 10:55 |
alourie | is bughelper tool still useful? | 11:32 |
bddebian | Boo | 14:38 |
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mrooney | Anyone know if there is a way to do a bug search, specifying bugs without a milestone? | 18:44 |
bdmurray | mrooney: could you elaborate? | 18:46 |
mrooney | bdmurray: I'd like to find papercuts without a milestone: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?advanced=1 | 18:49 |
mrooney | I can select milestones, but I don't see a way to say NO milestone | 18:49 |
bdmurray | mrooney: I don' think there is a way really | 18:57 |
pascal80 | mrooney: why don't you order by milestone | 19:00 |
mrooney | pascal80: that's clever, thanks! | 19:00 |
pascal80 | It looks like its possible to change &orderby=milestone into &orderby=-milestone too in the search url to get the ones without milestone first | 19:03 |
Sinani201 | Hello | 19:18 |
Sinani201 | I just joined the Bug Swuad, where's a good place to start? | 19:18 |
Sinani201 | *Squad | 19:19 |
Sinani201 | Anyone? | 19:23 |
mrooney | Sinani201: Welcome! the topic has some good places I think! | 19:23 |
mrooney | have you looked at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs ? | 19:24 |
Sinani201 | mrooney: Thanks, I'll take a look at that page. | 19:25 |
Sinani201 | It looks like I should start with triarging bugs, right? | 19:27 |
hggdh | hum. Already gone... | 19:40 |
mrooney | has anyone seen bug 412660 filed before? I noticed it too, wondering if it is a popular bug | 19:41 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 412660 in ubuntu "laptop touchpad "tapping" not working in 9.10 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412660 | 19:41 |
chrisccoulson | mrooney - it stopped working after a g-s-d update changed the location of the gconf keys for touchpad settings | 20:12 |
chrisccoulson | but that should be fixed now :-/ | 20:12 |
chrisccoulson | and it should even migrate the settings correctly on upgrade | 20:12 |
mrooney | chrisccoulson: ah thanks how glorious | 20:16 |
chrisccoulson | but maybe something else doesn't work | 20:16 |
chrisccoulson | i cant test as i don't have a touchpad;) | 20:16 |
l3dx | anyone know how to configure git-daemon? | 20:33 |
micahg | l3dx: try #ubuntu for support | 20:42 |
l3dx | micahg: did that too :) just thought it was worth a try to ask in some of the developer channels too | 20:50 |
micahg | l3dx: this is the triage channel, not a developer channel :) #ubuntu-motu would probably know | 20:52 |
micahg | maybe #ubuntu-server? | 20:54 |
greg-g | or maybe a git channel? ;) | 21:08 |
l3dx | I'm at #git too :o) | 21:11 |
l3dx | but it seems to be a hard question :P | 21:11 |
BUGabundo | ola | 21:13 |
greg-g | l3dx: gotcha :) | 21:14 |
Jeruvy | dumb question but what does MOTU stand for? | 21:48 |
mrooney | Jeruvy: Masters Of The Universe (repository) | 21:49 |
greg-g | and, for more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 21:49 |
dtchen | masters of the universe | 21:49 |
Jeruvy | really ;) I've read the wiki page, didn't help ;) | 21:49 |
mrooney | it is right there on the wiki, Jeruvy :) | 21:50 |
greg-g | "They are community members who spend their time adding, maintaining, and supporting as much as possible the software found in Universe." | 21:50 |
* Jeruvy gets glasses | 21:50 | |
Jeruvy | ah different page, I was on the ubuntu.com motu page that didn't explain that. Thanks :) | 21:51 |
Jeruvy | as long as I don't have to ride a griffon... | 21:52 |
hggdh | well, you do not *need* to, of course ;-) | 21:58 |
Jeruvy | :) hggdh great comment :) | 21:59 |
* hggdh bows | 22:01 | |
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aguynamedryan | I hope I'm not hitting on a sore subject, but what's the deal with the whole dash/sh/bash issue? Is there some page that describes the current state of affairs and the rationale? | 22:31 |
aguynamedryan | Ah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh | 22:34 |
kklimonda | aguynamedryan: why would it be sore? | 22:45 |
aguynamedryan | Looks like there is a lot of controversy about the move to make dash == /bin/sh | 22:46 |
aguynamedryan | Seems like it's causing a lot of bugs | 22:46 |
kklimonda | actually it was changed in ubuntu some time ago and we don't get a lot (if any) bug reports.. | 22:47 |
kklimonda | debian guys are having quite a heated discussion about it though.. | 22:47 |
kklimonda | fwiw I think that setting bash as a default /bin/sh was a bad move.. it has terrible sh compliance, even in it's "compliance mode" :/ | 22:48 |
kklimonda | or to be more exact - it just allow people to do things that aren't specified in some posix document ;) | 22:49 |
aguynamedryan | Is there a script that I can use to quickly change all references to /bin/sh to /bin/bash? | 22:50 |
aguynamedryan | I'd love to just point a script at a folder and have it "fix" all the files | 22:51 |
kklimonda | quick sed would be enough | 22:51 |
aguynamedryan | If only I was handy with sed :-( | 22:51 |
kklimonda | it would be something like sed -e "s|^#!/bin/bash$|/#!/bin/sh|g" -i file.sh | 22:52 |
aguynamedryan | I'll see if I can wrap that up in a nice little script...thanks! | 22:53 |
hggdh | well, bashism is considered an error for pacackaed scripts. | 22:54 |
aguynamedryan | I'm just trying to build something from source...no packaging just yet | 22:55 |
kklimonda | hggdh: sometimes it's easier to change interpreter and make package depend on bash explicitly than to fix bashisms | 22:56 |
hggdh | aguynamedryan, I just mean shell scripts (that default to the shebang of /bin/sh) should work the same under sh and bash | 22:56 |
hggdh | kklimonda, yes, there is that | 22:56 |
aguynamedryan | I've been grinding away on this build for a while, sorry if I'm not keeping up with you guys mentally :-/ | 22:58 |
hggdh | aguynamedryan, no problem. I also have had a bad day -- on coreutils and at work... | 23:00 |
hggdh | and I do apologise if my answers we a bit on the short side | 23:00 |
aguynamedryan | Take that source code!: grep -R -l /bin/sh * | xargs -n1 -Iflile sed -e "s|/bin/sh|/bin/bash|g" -i flile | 23:01 |
aguynamedryan | scorched the earth! | 23:02 |
hggdh | brb in half-hour | 23:03 |
bdmurray | jdstrand: do you know if the new ipw2200 firmware resolves any issues? | 23:08 |
jdstrand | bdmurray: the one I recently upgraded? | 23:08 |
jdstrand | updated | 23:08 |
bdmurray | jdstrand: yeah, I couldn't find a changelog easily | 23:08 |
jdstrand | bdmurray: there is no changelog for it (Intel refused to release it) | 23:09 |
bdmurray | mmm great | 23:09 |
jdstrand | bdmurray: it seemed to make my wife's laptop initialize the card somewhat better | 23:09 |
bdmurray | jdstrand: I was wondering if it resolved stuff like "ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting". I can't seem to find the bug I was thinking of though | 23:12 |
jdstrand | bdmurray: I don't know. I never saw that too much | 23:13 |
jdstrand | bdmurray: it hasn't made it any worse, I can say that much :) | 23:13 |
bdmurray | well, that's something! | 23:13 |
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