[03:27] <Takyoji> Anyone have advice for starting local FOSS advocacy groups?
[03:27] <Takyoji> Moreso, in the factor of when there's barely many people that know of what FOSS is; and that's the factor that I'm not aware of is how to market such a group to people to make them interest while having them be able to understand at some point. But to be concise with description
[03:34] <Takyoji> FLOSS, FOSS, OSS, OS
[03:34] <Takyoji> Too many derivatives
[03:34] <Takyoji> But anyway
[03:36] <BHSPitMonkey> stick with defining FOSS
[03:36] <Takyoji> Like in terms of promoting it in a high school environment; like an intercom advertisement
[03:36] <Takyoji> which would have to be concise
[03:37] <Takyoji> But yes, there would be fliers as well, which would describe further
[05:25] <Takyoji> I should be a bit more precise; like how would I 'sell' the advocacy group to people
[05:25] <Takyoji> How would I make them interested
[05:25] <Takyoji> Or also how would I plan it perhaps?
[05:39] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm not much help, but I would say definitely don't try to do it by yourself
[05:39] <BHSPitMonkey> try to find like-minded people in the area who will help
[05:40] <BHSPitMonkey> you might have a nearby LoCo or LUG you didn't even know of
[05:41] <Takyoji> I've been looking; I haven't found anything that's not a +40 minute drive away)
[05:41] <Takyoji> There was one (about +20 minute away); but they've all moved away and there's no longer any meetings
[05:43] <Takyoji> I've been dying for this; but there's always something to be in the way as it seems
[05:43] <Takyoji> But I'd really like to spread advocacy; considering many people are unaware
[05:43] <Takyoji> Like for example, the last relative I helped thought it was like a 'hard wired' requirement that you have to use Windows and Internet Explorer
[05:44] <Takyoji> like there's nothing else
[05:44] <Takyoji> And it would be better if there was more than just me trying to help spread awareness
[05:44] <Takyoji> I've done probably...
[05:45] <Takyoji> I've done about 5-7 Ubuntu installations for people; and I have about 6 other people that are still interested yet.
[05:46] <Takyoji> Everyone I've installed Ubuntu for, I've installed Ubuntu to be parallel to Windows, so that they can choose. Everyone I've helped has pretty much preferred Ubuntu over Windows so far (and I'm not forcing Ubuntu upon anyone at all)
[05:47] <Takyoji> It'd be so nice if I could find others interested; I have a few people somewhat interested, but aren't deeply apt of the specifics of Ubuntu to help with fixing anything or general assistance.
[05:48] <Takyoji> And the other thing is that my state LoCo is completely dead and nobody is really doing much about it; and I'm not sure if I'm in a position to help try getting that active; but I'd like to have something more local that I can help more often; the state LoCo (if at ideal condition) would typically be every now and then.
[05:49] <Takyoji> I've used Ubuntu as a mainstream operating system for over about a year now; I don't claim to be a full genius or anything; but I'm aware of the general intricacies and have been able to resolve pretty much any problem that comes up for anyone.
[05:50] <Takyoji> People don't know they have choice, and that's something I'd love to portray to people in the community. Yes, I can help online, but I can only help in certain ways online (due to the obvious locational differences)
[05:51] <Takyoji> If people I've helped have been using their Ubuntu installation over Windows; there's definitely a pattern there. I'm not implying Ubuntu is better; but people would be interested if only they knew.
[05:52] <Takyoji> If I were to be very widespread on promoting it in the community, I wouldn't have minions (jokingly implied) to devote time and help people with any problems or curiosities they have.
[05:54] <Takyoji> unless if I had a group of potential advocates that I would try to show them these wonderful forms of technology; in hope to help spread on the advocacy
[05:55] <Takyoji> I'm quite a persistent person; I don't really give up much at all.
[05:58] <Takyoji> I think I'm starting to sweat like Steve Ballmer now. xP
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> woah, you've typed a bit
[06:02] <Takyoji> We need life in this channel, discussion, activity! There's more efficient advertising material that could be produced if people came forth asking for critique or other things of their work.
[06:02] <Takyoji> Yes, I enjoy making a wall of text, and putting you through the torture of trying to read through it all. :P
[06:06] <BHSPitMonkey> see a doctor if you're sweating like ballmer
[06:07] <Takyoji> Don't worry, I was probably born with elbow pits. :P
[06:16] <Takyoji> I'd love to see more activity out of this channel though
[06:17] <Takyoji> It seems like a majority of the people have interest in other channels, and their IRC client just autojoins.
[06:17] <Takyoji> and they never really check this channel much anymore
[06:23] <Takyoji> I think I need "Powered by Ubuntu" stickers at some point; and a mini kit to remove the "Designed for Windows *" stickers. :P
[13:45] <maco> Takyoji: to remove the Windows stickers, just use your fingernails :P
[13:45] <maco> Takyoji: and zareason.com sells metal powered by ubuntu stickers at cost
[13:46] <maco> Takyoji: i buy sticker paper at staples and print the ubuntu casebadge page of the free software stickerbook on it.  laminate using clear packing tape, then cut out
[13:49] <maco> Takyoji: get the people you know who've switched to help you.  find out what THEY like more about ubuntu and use that as selling points
[13:49] <maco> and it doesnt take >1 person to leaflet
[13:56] <AliTabuger7> system76 gives them out for free
[14:02] <maco> and the plastic layer peels off. theyre lower quality than the ones i make from sticker paper
[18:42] <Takyoji> Ahh. Otherwise I'm aware of sources for the stickers; just haven't requested them at all.