[00:29] <xgpt> hello, what is better, adduser or useradd?
[00:32] <roxy_> hi there, I am having problems with my PV, when i do pvsan i got Physical Volume /dev/dm-16 is too large for underlying device
[00:34] <roxy_> and pv1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error ...please help...
[00:44] <roxy_> how i can check if i have bad blocks in my raid array? I mean some physical problem?
[00:53] <xgpt> anyone?
[00:55] <pmatulis> xgpt: adduser is a frontend to useradd.  it is meant to do the most common (simple) stuff
[00:55] <pmatulis> xgpt: same for addgroup and groupadd
[00:56] <xgpt> thanks pmatulis
[01:12] <axisys> i am keep getting this every 10 mins
[01:12] <axisys> Aug 11 19:17:16 sys-ubuntu mpt-statusd: detected non-optimal RAID status
[01:12] <axisys> mpt-status query however shows all good http://pastebin.com/f602c051e
[01:13] <axisys> mpt-status bug ?
[01:13] <axisys> this is a x4100 with lsi raid controller
[01:13] <axisys> 02:03.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1064 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 02)
[04:31] <friartuck> howto...blah awk'{ if (!$4) print "missing" }'  ? like [ -z $4 ] ??
[05:05] <twb> A field can't be "missing" unless the line has fewer fields
[05:05] <twb> Try #awk.
[05:06] <friartuck> twb thx...didn't know there was #awk
[05:37] <psi-jack> Well now. Is there like no simple setup method for setting up ip masquerading in Ubuntu?
[05:41] <twb> psi-jack: there used to be an "ipmasq" package
[05:41] <twb> But it was removed due to being really old, unmaintained, flaky and shit
[05:41] <twb> IP masquerading is only a couple of iptables rules, #netfilter should be able to help you with the details.
[05:42] <twb> If you're using ufw, you probably want to hook it into that.
[05:42] <psi-jack> ufw?
[05:42] <twb> !ufw
[05:42] <psi-jack> Pardon but mostly I've gotten used to opensuse having yast. :)
[05:44] <psi-jack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu%20Internet%20Gateway%20Method%20(iptables)
[05:44] <psi-jack> This is one I'd also seen
[05:46] <psi-jack> Does ubuntu autosave the iptables rules, or is there an init script for it to do so, like most other distributions have?
[05:48] <psi-jack> I'm guessing..... No.
[06:04] <ScottK> No.
[06:05] <ScottK> psi-jack: Using ufw is the most supported way to do it.
[06:30] <psi-jack> Hmm
[06:30] <psi-jack> Okay, so firestarter is... Proving to be difficult.
[06:31] <twb> psi-jack: ufw is the recommended firewall wrapper, not firestarter
[06:31] <psi-jack> Dude. ufw sucks.
[06:32] <twb> File a bug report, then.
[06:32] <psi-jack> There's no bug to report, it just plain sucks. It's stupid, really. Supposed to make iptables "easier", when all it does is make it more annoying.
[06:37] <gnuyoga> psi-jack: have u tried shorewall ?
[06:38] <psi-jack> No, I hadn't actually.
[06:38] <psi-jack> Not recently anyway.
[06:38] <gnuyoga> psi-jack: i would recommend it. it quiet decent. all in few configuration file and easy to validate before applying
[06:39] <gnuyoga> psi-jack: tom, who is the founder of the project still contributes a lot and he does a good jo
[06:39] <psi-jack> Yeah. I just gotta clear out what firewall had put in. bleh
[06:47] <dvs> hello
[07:07] <psi-jack> Yeaah.. Bleh.
[07:15] <psi-jack__> Heh
[07:16] <psi-jack__> I just cannot believe Ubuntu is like the only distribution, save for maybe Debian, that doesn't have any means to simply just setup persistant firewall rules.
[07:16] <psi-jack__> !ufw
[07:20] <_ruben> psi-jack__: didnt ubottu just prove you wrong on that statement, or is that just me?
[07:21] <_ruben> (havent read scrollback)
[07:21] <psi-jack__> ufw does exist, yes, but it's.. Kinda .. Lamish. heh
[07:22] <_ruben> if its not good enough for you, create your own alternative .. nobody forces you to do so
[07:22] <_ruben> i'd *hate* for my distro to autosave any rules on reboot
[07:22] <psi-jack__> Well, right off the bat, it makes all these rules that has nothing to do with anything I intended.
[07:23] <_ruben> for example? (i never used ufw myself)
[07:23] <psi-jack__> http://pastebin.com/m26d28f02
[07:24] <psi-jack__> That's a LOT of stuff to put into a firewall, out-of-the-box, minus the NAT stuff I put in which was just a couple lines.
[07:25] <_ruben> but those rules dont do any harm, and make adding your own customization rather easy
[07:25] <_ruben> input policy of drop and forward policy of accept looks odd to me tho
[07:26] <_ruben> but like i said, if you dont like it, dont use it
[07:27] <_ruben> putting iptables-save > /etc/firewall.conf / iptables-restore < /etc/firewall.conf in a shutdown/boot script isn't really that hard .. all depends on what you need really
[07:27] <_ruben> there's no single/simple best for anything
[07:28] <psi-jack__> Heh. I dunno.. Gentoo's method, iptables init script, save and restore your own rules, simple.
[07:28] <psi-jack__> OpenSUSE's method, yast networking and firewall settings.
[07:30] <twb> _ruben: this is essentially what ufw does, except that it breaks it up into a handful of files
[07:30] <_ruben> twb: it's essentially what *any* firewall frontend does :p
[07:31] <_ruben> they just differ in the details :)
[07:32] <twb> _ruben: no, lots of them will call iptables -A on individual rules, which is wrong.
[07:42] <psi-jack__> Hmmm.. nice..
[07:42] <psi-jack__> wondershaper doesn't even have an init script for it.
[07:44] <twb> psi-jack__: it probably uses /etc/network/if-up.d/, which it should
[07:45] <psi-jack__> No, no, actually, it doesn't. It doesn't provide anything at all for init, period.
[07:47] <psi-jack__> Great, and firestarter AND guarddog both, after removal, left trash in my init.d and ifup.d
[07:48] <twb> psi-jack__: report bugs
[07:49] <twb> psi-jack__: but probably it's because you uninstalled the package, rather than purging it.  Only the latter removes config files.
[07:50] <psi-jack__> Yeah, I did apt-remove. I don't see init and ifup/down scripts to be config files, however.
[07:51] <psi-jack__> What's ubuntu's method of managing init.d scripts execution?
[07:51] <twb> All files in /etc are defined to be config files.
[07:51] <twb> wondershaper's README.Debian, in /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/, explains how to deploy it.
[07:51] <psi-jack__> So, everything in /etc/init.d are config files? Even though they're executable scripts? :)
[07:51] <twb> psi-jack__: yes.
[07:52] <psi-jack__> That's a negative.
[07:53] <psi-jack__> Anyway though, what command defines init scripts?
[07:53] <ScottK> From a policy perspective everything in /etc is considered config.
[07:53] <twb> The SysV init style is used by default, per the sysvinit-compat package.  That is, symlinks from /etc/rc?.d/???foo to /etc/init.d/foo.
[07:56] <psi-jack__> What I'm looking for is the command to set what should run at what runlevel, that handles delinking and linking the rc.d trees.
[07:56] <psi-jack__> I know Ubuntu has one.
[07:56] <twb> rcconf is a simple interface.
[07:57] <psi-jack__> update-rc.d was what I was looking for.
[07:57] <twb> For more control, I believe you are expected to manually move or delete symlinks.  You can also use update-rc.d, which is actually intended for package maintainers.
[08:16] <qiyong> is pam.d a linux thing or unix thing?
[08:19] <Boohbah> qiyong: pluggable authentication modules run on most modern UNIX systems
[08:19] <qiyong> Boohbah: what was it desgined for originally?
[08:20] <Boohbah> PAM was first proposed by Sun Microsystems in an Open Software Foundation Request for Comments (RFC) 86.0 dated October 1995.
[08:20] <Boohbah> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_Authentication_Modules
[08:20] <Boohbah> qiyong: so i'm guessing Solaris
[08:21] <Boohbah> As a stand-alone infrastructure, PAM first appeared from an open-source, Linux-PAM, development in Red Hat Linux 3.0.4 in August 1996.
[08:23] <qiyong> user logins are always though pam
[08:24] <rosa> hi there...I am using evms and my pv is corrupt, i am usind a array of 3 disk in raid 1 and proc/mdstat shows me it is ok, it is possible to recover my information?
[08:27] <qiyong> Boohbah: is it? ^^
[08:36] <soren> rosa: If the PV is corrupt, and the raid1 is consistent, it sounds like you're in trouble.
[08:37] <soren> rosa: I'm assuming the PV is what is mirrored across those three disks?
[08:37] <soren> rosa: I'm curious: Why three disks in a RAID 1?
[08:40] <rosa> i dont know as well, i take the server like that
[08:41] <rosa> maybe is raid 10? but when i do cat proc/mdstat say raid 1
[08:41] <rosa> yes, it is
[08:42] <rosa> i really have this 3 disk in raid 1 and one other more (normal) in the pv and now is corrupt
[08:44] <rosa> i dont know if is possible to recover the information just in the raid 1 (3 disks)
[08:44] <Boohbah> qiyong: on most linux systems, by default, yes
[08:46] <Boohbah> qiyong: are you having any trouble with PAM authentication?
[08:50] <rosa> what i can do if the pv is corrupt?
[08:55] <j0nr> morning all
[08:55] <j0nr> My mail server seems to have stopped recieving mail...
[08:56] <Boohbah> j0nr: why?
[09:00] <j0nr> Hmm maybe not me...I don't know.
[09:01] <j0nr> my incoming mail gets forwarded to another server which is runnign spamassassin... I think that is having problems...as emails are no longer being marked as spam
[09:03] <j0nr> i can ping the server if that means anything
[09:09] <mattt> j0nr: maybe the spamassassin service crashed?
[09:10] <rosa> I am using evms and my pv is corrupt, i am usind a array of 3 disk in raid 1 and proc/mdstat shows me it is ok, it is possible to recover my information?
[09:17] <j0nr> mattt: aye I am awaiting to find out
[09:18] <mattt> j0nr: is the server down or something?
[09:20] <j0nr> mattt: seems to be back now
[09:21] <mattt> j0nr: *rejoice* :)
[09:28] <rosa> hi..im trying to mount one disk and i got wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdf2, somebody know how i can resolve it?
[09:31] <soren> rosa: What's on the partition?
[09:32] <rosa> what do you mean?
[09:33] <rosa> there are 2 partition
[09:34] <soren> I mean, what's on /dev/sdf2? What kind of filesystem are you expecting?
[09:34] <rosa> the first one is boot type
[09:35] <rosa> xfs
[09:35] <Boohbah> mount -t xfs /dev/sdf2 /mnt/sdf2
[09:35] <rosa> but i did mount -t xfs ... and still i got the error
[09:35] <rosa> yes i did
[09:35] <Boohbah> fsck.xfs /mnt/sdf2 ?
[09:36] <Boohbah> oooh, don't fsck a mounted fs :)
[09:36] <Boohbah> s/mnt/dev
[09:37] <rosa> is not mounted yest
[09:37] <rosa> yet
[09:37] <rosa> i cant mounted
[09:38] <rosa> when i try to xfs_repair i got attempting to find secondary superblock...
[09:54] <Daviey> nijaba: Are you around?
[09:55] <nijaba> Daviey: I am
[09:55] <Daviey> nijaba: Do you dabble with translations?
[09:56] <Daviey> If so, would you mind doing a couple of ubuntu-server-tips, I want to test it :)
[09:57] <nijaba> Daviey: I could translate them to french if that is the question
[09:57] <Daviey> yeah :)
[09:57] <nijaba> Daviey: should I do that from your bzr branch?
[09:57] <Daviey> nijaba: I imagine that your French is stronger than mine. :)
[09:57] <Daviey> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-server-tips
[09:57] <Boohbah> Pour vous connecter à votre VPS en utilisant FTP, vous devez d'abord installer un serveur FTP.
[09:58] <Boohbah> tech support via google translate :)
[09:58] <nijaba> Daviey: I do not know where you are from, but as I am frnech, it should not be too hard :P
[09:59] <Daviey> England.. And sadly we are known for not being the best speakers of foreign languages.. We tend to shout English, until the foreign speaker understands.
[09:59] <Daviey> :(
[10:00] <Daviey> nijaba: I have imported a template into rosetta, so should be possible to do it all via launchpad translate
[10:01] <nijaba> Daviey: we'll, according to the "I love lucy" episode I saw when she is visiting paris, only americans believe that people wil understand you better by speaking louder :D
[10:04] <nijaba> Daviey: just done a couple to get you started.  Will continue a bit later when time permits
[10:09] <Daviey> :).. that is great.. it's more an experiment to test at this stage..
[10:10] <Daviey> LP should auto commit translation changes daily to the bzr branch, and as fortune has no notion of native language support.. i need a wrapper script to retrive the correct one.
[10:13] <Daviey> I assume "update-motd" runs as a root cronjob.. and on a Ubuntu server the root enviroment $LANG is set to fr.UTF-8 ?
[10:14] <soren> Daviey: cron runs with the locale set in /etc/default/locale
[10:14] <soren> IIRC.
[10:15] <Daviey> that would make sense... saying that, isn't cron santised to not have any set enviroment variables.. or does it source /etc/default/locale ?
[10:15]  * Daviey checks
[10:18] <Daviey> yup.. $LANG is null in cron.
[10:18] <Daviey> no worries.
[10:20] <RoyK> hrmf
[10:20] <RoyK> some people on the server ml obviously think that since we can have four cheap gigs of memory in a box nowadays, swap is not needed
[10:20] <RoyK> "640k should be enough for everyone"
[10:21] <Daviey> RoyK: Long term, i'm not satisfied we need a dedicated swap partition, but an elastic swap file.
[10:22] <Boohbah> RoyK: obviously these people are not familiar with virtualization
[10:22] <RoyK> what's the problem? with terabyte drives, why not set aside a few gigs of swap?
[10:22] <RoyK> Boohbah: yeah, or even modern memory management
[10:23] <Boohbah> right, the disk cache
[10:23] <RoyK> vm.swappiness = 100
[10:23] <RoyK> earlier swapping, more caching
[10:23] <RoyK> get the junk not referenced onto the disk
[10:29] <rosa> Hi I am having problme with the superblock is corruct, how i can recover my HD?
[10:39] <thebloggu> hello
[10:39] <thebloggu> i cant boot the ubuntu server 9.04 cd into my computer, it stucks int "boot:"
[10:39] <thebloggu> what can i do?
[10:41] <th0mz> can you give option to grub ?
[10:41] <th0mz> (acpi etc..)
[10:41] <th0mz> Load default in bios
[10:41] <th0mz> etc etc
[10:41] <thebloggu> th0mz, no.
[10:41] <thebloggu> and what do you mean default in bios?
[10:42] <th0mz> Most of the time you can load default value in Bios
[10:42] <th0mz> (to be sure nothing stuck booting)
[10:42] <RoyK> do you get the "press escape to see menu" prompt before it starts booting?
[10:43] <thebloggu> RoyK, no
[10:43] <RoyK> how did you partition you disks?
[10:43] <RoyK> oh
[10:43] <RoyK> the cd won't boot?
[10:43] <thebloggu> yes
[10:43] <th0mz> any usb thing connected ?
[10:43] <RoyK> if so, burn a new one
[10:44] <th0mz> good idea
[10:44] <th0mz> (test it on an other serv)
[10:44] <RoyK> nah - just burn a new one on low speed
[10:44] <th0mz> is it a dvd ?
[10:44] <thebloggu> no, cd
[10:45] <RoyK> thebloggu: burn a new one on low speed and try again - that is usually the problem
[10:45] <RoyK> i mean, that usually solves the problem
[10:45] <thebloggu> RoyK, th0mz ok, thanks, i'll do that
[10:45] <RoyK> "To speak before thinking is like wiping your ass before taking a shit"
[10:46] <RoyK> no, to think before speaking, that was
[10:46] <RoyK> old swedish saying :þ
[10:55] <Blinkiz> Hi there. I have three network cards in my server (eth0, eth1, eth2). I have a network cable attached to one of the network cards. How can I find out if its eth0, eth1, eth2? Am looking for some tool to show if link is up or not..
[10:56] <soren> ethtool
[10:56] <Blinkiz> soren, thanks
[10:57] <Blinkiz> soren, Oh, not installed. And no internet connection to that machine. Any other solution?
[10:57] <soren> mii-tool?
[10:57] <soren> mii-diag?
[10:57] <RoyK> dmesg| grep eth
[10:57] <Blinkiz> soren, mii-tool. Nice. There it was. eth2 was the connected one :)
[10:58] <soren> Ah, /sys also exposes it nowadays, apparantly.
[10:59] <RoyK> soren: where in /sys?
[10:59] <soren> Blinkiz: You could have done this: grep . /sys/class/net/carrier
[10:59] <RoyK> anyway, mii-tool was nice
[10:59] <RoyK> didn't know that
[10:59] <soren> Err...
[10:59] <soren> Blinkiz: You could have done this: grep . /sys/class/net/*/carrier
[10:59] <soren> ..to see the current status of all the interfaces.
[11:00] <Blinkiz> soren, naa, don
[11:00] <soren> Or just "grep -l 1 /sys/class/net/*/carrier"
[11:00] <mattt> ... /sys seems to contain all sorts of goodness these days .. where'd that thing come from?  :)
[11:00] <Blinkiz> soren, yeah, did work.
[11:00]  * mattt thinks /sys is the new /proc
[11:00] <RoyK> damn - even lo is online
[11:00] <RoyK> :þ
[11:00] <soren> You'd be screwed if it wasn't :)
[11:01] <RoyK> is there a tool like sysctl that manipulates /sys stuff?
[11:12] <thebloggu> RoyK, th0mz same problem
[11:13] <RoyK> wierd
[11:13] <RoyK> try booting another box from the cd
[11:13] <RoyK> what arch?
[11:13] <RoyK> amd64 or x86?
[11:13] <thebloggu> x86
[11:13] <RoyK> 32bit?
[11:13] <thebloggu> yes
[11:13] <RoyK> well, try booting up another box
[11:14] <RoyK> seems your cdrom may be fscked
[11:16] <thebloggu> RoyK, works fine
[11:16] <RoyK> use another cdrom player
[11:16] <RoyK> drive
[11:16] <RoyK> something
[11:16] <RoyK> the boot cd is very generic and should work on all systems
[11:17] <RoyK> I can't remember seeing a system refuse to boot from one
[11:17] <RoyK> not ever
[11:17] <RoyK> that is, since slackware 3.2 in 1994 or so
[11:20] <thebloggu> cant boot from the other drive
[11:20] <RoyK> thebloggu: well, no idea, really. it really is generic
[11:21] <thebloggu> it is strange because it starts to load the cd. it says "ISOLINUX .." then stop at "boot:"
[11:24] <RoyK> google how to make a usb pen bootup from your current OS - it might work better
[11:39] <chrisbs> Hello. I'm trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 on a production server, following the ELFUpgrades guide on the community documentation. The upgrade program fails at "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz" with a 404 Not Found. I can't seem to find the /dists path under /releases when trying to find it with a browser. Anyone got any experience with this?
[11:40] <chrisbs> EOLUpgrades*
[11:47] <chrisbs> Fixed it. If anyone cares, it was a faulty entry in sources.list.
[11:48] <soren> chrisbs: Which version of update-manager-core do you have?
[11:52] <acalvo> anyone has implemented openldap with samba to create a domain with windows xp machines?
[11:54] <soren> chrisbs: Oh, I missed your last comment. Was this an error on your part or was it update-manager doing something wrong?
[11:55] <chrisbs> It was an error on my part. I didn't set it up, I was just tasked to clean it up.
[11:58] <chrisbs> acalvo: if LDAP isn't a requirement I think it's pretty easy to set up samba as a domain controller without the ldap backend. I did it awhile back and it seemed fairly easy to get basic functionality. Try googling "linux domain controller xp". Can't remember the exact links.
[11:59] <acalvo> chrisbs: LDAP is the backend of the most common services (like mail, web, auth), so it is a must
[11:59] <acalvo> chrisbs: I've it almost everythgin setted up
[12:00] <acalvo> but it fails when loading roaming profiles, it is not able to find the share directory (but an LDAP user can browse it without problems)
[12:01] <chrisbs> Aha, okay. My setup was just for fun at home, to see if I could get it working. GL though, been trying to get that + kerberos up, but I've never been able to. Would be awesome with some good documentation on that, if it's even possible.
[12:01] <acalvo> chrisbs: thank you for your support!
[12:02] <chrisbs> I really don't know much about it. But if you haven't, try samba.org. Loads and loads of documentation.
[12:04] <acalvo> chrisbs: in fact I've found a good tutorial, which lead me to get everything working in a couple of hours. The sad part is that it does not have any "troubleshooting" guide :(
[12:09] <chrisbs> acalvo: Aha. Well the documentation at the official samba site is extremely thorough. You should be able to find every answer you need there, although it might take a while.
[12:10] <garymc> Hi guys, i got ubuntu 9.04 server on my proliant, when i watch a youtube vid over it, after about 1 min in the firefox browser closes or disapears from the screen
[12:10] <garymc> whats the problem here?
[12:10] <acalvo> garymc: which flash player are you using?
[12:10] <garymc> the latest
[12:11] <garymc> i just downloaded when it said you need flash player
[12:11] <acalvo> from adobe or the open-source? (or even HTML5)
[12:11] <garymc> so i chose ubuntu debian version
[12:11] <garymc> from adobe
[12:11] <acalvo> try to open it from a terminal and see the output that it gives when it crashes
[12:11] <garymc> how do you do that?
[12:11] <_ruben> this sounds more like ubuntu desktop than ubuntu server
[12:12] <garymc> well im running LTSP on the server and im connected via ethernet using a thin client
[12:13] <acalvo> garymc: _ruben is right, try to ask it on the official #ubuntu channel
[12:13] <_ruben> as stated in the topic .. its not a server specific support question
[12:13] <garymc> i thought this was
[12:13] <garymc> is it not?
[12:13] <acalvo> no, this is the main channel for ubuntu-server
[12:13] <acalvo> not ubuntu desktop
[12:16] <CopyWriter> good morning all
[12:17] <_ruben> g'day
[12:17] <CopyWriter> question: should i install windows manager for ubuntu server
[12:17] <_ruben> usualy: no
[12:18] <_ruben> and when you do, you might as well install ubuntu desktop instead
[12:19] <CopyWriter> ok next question, how do i specify a static ip address, when i install the ip is automatically configured as 192.168.1.142
[12:20] <CopyWriter> i'm getting a dhcp3 error so i assume that it's because the dhcp server isn't running
[12:23] <CopyWriter> !dhcp
[12:24] <_ruben> which error do you get?
[12:24] <_ruben> for static ip config, see: man 5 interfaces
[12:25] <garymc> Wow desktop stay stop using flash?
[12:25] <garymc> *say
[12:25] <CopyWriter> initializing dhcp3 status fail
[12:26] <chrisbs> CopyWriter: What are you trying to accomplish? Do you simply want to set a static ip configuration?
[12:27] <CopyWriter> i'm using a new ubuntu server install, well trying to use it anyway as a fileserver on my office network (it's a hobby really) i got everything installed but when it installs it automatically defaults to ip 192.168.1.142 and it can't be seen by any other computers on the network
[12:28] <_ruben> other computers aren't in the 192.168.1.142 range?
[12:28] <_ruben> err
[12:28] <_ruben> other computers aren't in the 192.168.1.0/24 range?
[12:28] <ewook> it automagically defaults? sounds hard to belive.
[12:29] <chrisbs> If you don't know how to set the ip in /etc/network/interface check out help.ubuntu.com, click your version > ubuntu server guide > 4. Networking
[12:33] <CopyWriter> thanks guys i'm reading up on the interfaces and the server guide section on networking is next
[12:34] <CopyWriter> if i already have a w2k server on the network acting as a domain controller would that be the cause
[12:35] <eoke> CopyWriter: You might have a DHCP server assigning addresses
[12:35] <CopyWriter> i can take the w2k machine out back and rough it up a bit
[12:35] <CopyWriter> yes it acts as a dhcp server
[12:35] <CopyWriter> shucks didn't think about that before
[12:36] <eoke> It's possible that's giving it the unexpected address, however if you configure your adapter as static in /etc/network/interfaces it'll use the address you specify.
[12:37] <eoke> Make sure you use an otherwise unused address though or your sys admin might get a touch upset with the ip conflict.
[12:38] <CopyWriter> i'm the guy that owns the business, the system admin has been getting me upset since november
[12:38] <CopyWriter> :)
[12:38] <CopyWriter> i just want the stuff to work, and i don't think that microsoft products can do what i want, i got too much downtime with viruses
[12:39] <ewook> why don't you just check your dhcp and alter that.
[12:40] <eoke> CopyWriter: A Microsoft environment needn't be a huge problem if its configured correctly.
[12:40] <eoke> I'm gonna get shot now aren't I.
[12:44] <CopyWriter> :)
[12:45] <CopyWriter> i gave microsoft a fair chance for the last 14 years
[12:46] <CopyWriter> even had their affiliates a local support company setup everything everytime i migrated
[12:46] <CopyWriter> time to give linux a try
[12:47] <CopyWriter> i installed ubuntu on the accountants pc's two weeks ago and nothing's complained that i don't know what i did i plugged in a flash drive and something popped up and now my pc is slow again
[12:49] <CopyWriter> and two months ago we got a trainee
[12:49] <metalfan__> hi
[12:50] <eoke> CopyWriter: Don't get me wrong I'm not saying don't try linux just that both will cause you issues if not configured correctly.
[12:50] <CopyWriter> who was given the admin password, and he's been in the tech room checking email
[12:50] <CopyWriter> so microsoft isn't entirely to blame
[12:50] <metalfan__> i entered "expert mode" at the installer menu to add "vga=771" to the kernel parameters. but after selecting "install ubuntu server" im stuck with some kind of expert installer mode. how do i start the guided default installation process?
[12:50] <CopyWriter> it's him for being mcp certified :O
[12:51] <pmatulis> CopyWriter: why give a trainee the admin password?
[13:00] <DelphiWorld> hello all
[13:00] <DelphiWorld> please how to setup a PXE boot server using ubuntu server?
[13:00] <DelphiWorld> thank for any help
[13:01] <pmatulis> metalfan__: restart the installation
[13:02] <metalfan__> pmatulis, thx
[13:02] <pmatulis> metalfan__: you can add the vga option afterwards
[13:03] <metalfan__> after what?
[13:04] <metalfan__> im not stupid, i dont try to get a better picture here or something. i get an "out of range" error from my monitor without the vga option
[13:04] <metalfan__> i need it
[13:05] <pmatulis> metalfan__: don't get angry
[13:05] <metalfan__> sry
[13:05] <pmatulis> metalfan__: you didn't explain that before
[13:06] <metalfan__> yes, you probably didnt read that yesterday
[13:06] <pmatulis> metalfan__: no
[13:06] <metalfan__> its just that im stuck with this crap for some time now
[13:07] <pmatulis> metalfan__: you can add kernel boot options. hit F6 at the initial install menu IIRC
[13:07] <metalfan__> yes, there i choosed expert. added vga=771 to the command line and started the installation
[13:08] <metalfan__> but now im stuck in some kind of expert installation mode where i have to choose the right install parts
[13:08] <metalfan__> i just need vga=771 on the kernel params, i want to start a normal inst now
[13:09] <DelphiWorld> any PXE boot server?
[13:09] <metalfan__> DelphiWorld, did you try "ubuntu pxe server" on google?
[13:10] <DelphiWorld> i want to mount a ISO image and let network users boot from it
[13:10] <DelphiWorld> metalfan__: i'm searching, and iasking here mayb get help from here anf google
[13:11] <metalfan__> ive done pxe, but i dont know about "mounting an iso and letting users boot from it" sry
[13:11] <DelphiWorld> metalfan__: me i have a ubuntu server, no desktop but i want users to use a desktop OS
[13:11] <pmatulis> metalfan__: i don't recall F6 being called 'expert'
[13:12] <metalfan__> expert is a menu point from f6
[13:12] <metalfan__> f6 is probably adanced
[13:12] <ichat> metalfan__:  -  'mounting an iso is rather hard ... iv tryed (under windows server - but that doesn't matter to mutch...
[13:12] <CopyWriter> wasn't me was the tech department, most likely a lazy7 tech who wasn't on lacation
[13:13] <pmatulis> metalfan__: is it different for you than what's given here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[13:13] <DelphiWorld> metalfan__: got it (PXE no ISO): http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_hardy_pxe_notes.html
[13:14] <ichat> if your trying to boot anything its way  easier to - un-iso something,  and    try initiating the  Bootloader directly ...
[13:15] <metalfan__> pmatulis, thx. now i understand. i thought expert mode enabled the boot options...but f6 does that
[13:15] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i'm trying to boot any OS using ubuntu PXE Server from my netbook
[13:19] <Boohbah> ichat: daemontools mounts iso's quite well under windows
[13:20] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: but i want to mount it in ubuntu no in windows
[13:20] <Boohbah> mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[13:21] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: thanks, but what's the relation to PXE boot server? how i can let users boot from it using PXE?
[13:23] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: i've never used PXE but looking at your link it looks like you should pass the mounted filesystem as the root= option in grub config
[13:23] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: yes, this is a good idi
[13:25] <Boohbah> i guess that would be the tftpboot loader and not grub
[13:27] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: yes tftp boot loader
[13:34] <ichat> DelphiWorld:  -  you can even boot  that other  OS  from linux pxe ... but you'd have to  create a bootdisk that - enables you to run  ntldr - witch is a bit tricky-er than  loading the kernel
[13:36] <DelphiWorld> ichat: ntldr?
[13:37] <Boohbah> the NT bootloader
[13:37] <Boohbah> for windows
[13:37] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: but why ntldr? i don't need windows actualy
[13:37] <DelphiWorld> i'm trying:
[13:37] <DelphiWorld> apt-get install netkit-inetd tftpd-hpa dhcp3-server lftp
[13:37] <DelphiWorld> but don't work
[13:37] <ichat> lol - like i said you can boot any bootloader
[13:38] <DelphiWorld> unable to install netkit-inetd
[13:39] <Boohbah> !info netkit-inetd
[13:39] <Boohbah> !info netkit-inetd intrepid
[13:39] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:40] <DelphiWorld> ubuntu server 8.10
[13:43] <Boohbah> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/netkit-inetd
[13:45] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: what is this?
[13:47] <ichat> btw i setup ubuntu-server (first time) -   are there any recomended packages to be able to manager   samba server and vsftpd  from a   (web)-GUI
[13:47] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i think EBox
[13:47] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: ok is installing thanks
[13:48] <DelphiWorld> aptitude install inetutils-inetd
[13:48] <ichat> is Ebox manageable in terms of  removing  parts that you dont need  (for example  -  the part where you'd manager mailservers or  webservers or others you dont need
[13:49] <DelphiWorld> ichat: yes i think is modulare, but kype asking i'm not sur
[13:50] <ichat> su aptitude update      &&  su aptitude install ebox  ?????
[13:51] <DelphiWorld> ichat: aptitude update and aptitude install ebox
[13:56] <nijaba> Daviey: Translation completed
[13:56] <ichat> it tells it cant update the list file :S
[13:57] <DelphiWorld> ichat: you must use sudo
[13:57] <ichat> sorry - its sudo - not su ?
[13:58] <DelphiWorld> ichat: sudo su
[13:58] <DelphiWorld> ichat: and enter your password
[14:02] <Daviey> nijaba: thanks!
[14:05] <DelphiWorld> ichat: re
[14:05] <ichat> ebox installed :S
[14:05] <DelphiWorld> i need this:
[14:06] <DelphiWorld> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/.
[14:06] <DelphiWorld> a netboot image
[14:06] <ichat> http://server    - it works  -
[14:06] <DelphiWorld> but error404
[14:07] <DelphiWorld> lftp -c "open http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/; mirror netboot/"
[14:08] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: ?
[14:09] <ichat> strange, -   it tells me that   .....  "  it works "   but thats all it does
[14:10] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: ?
[14:12] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i can't get the ubuntu 8.10 netboot image
[14:12] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah:  lftp -c "open http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/; mirror netboot/"
[14:12] <Boohbah> The requested URL /ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/ was not found on this server.
[14:13] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: edgy?
[14:13] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: no, just this URL don't work
[14:13] <DelphiWorld> i need the ekival of it for 8.10
[14:13] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: did you read the URL?
[14:13] <RoyK> hm.... I have a box running 9.04 server and I want to setup other boxes with identical configuration (same packages plus some config file changes, NIS integration, some NFS mounts etc). What is the easiest way to automate this?
[14:14] <Boohbah> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[14:14] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: realy thanks
[14:15] <ichat> wow  - im in ebox and it doesn't seem to do anything :$
[14:15] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: trying...
[14:19] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: downloading the netboot image, thanks
[14:20] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i think you can solv my problem :D
[14:20] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i'm a blind person, using knoppix with the ORCA screen reader in console mode
[14:20] <DelphiWorld> any ORCA in console mode for UBUNTU Server?
[14:21] <Boohbah> BRLTTY is a background process (daemon) which provides access to the Linux/Unix console (when in text mode) for a blind person using a refreshable braille display. It drives the braille display, and provides complete screen review functionality. Some speech capability has also been incorporated.
[14:21] <Boohbah> http://mielke.cc/brltty/
[14:22] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: i guess you need a braille display to use that
[14:22] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i use only TTS :D
[14:22] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: http://edbrowse.sourceforge.net/
[14:22] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_screen_readers
[14:23] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: but realy thank you for informing me
[14:23] <Boohbah> welcome :)
[14:23] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: :)
[14:26] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i connect to my ubuntu server using SSH with knoppix that incorporate ORCA dyrectly in the shell with the Espeak TTS Engine
[14:44] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: what is UBUNTU MINI.ISO?
[14:44] <RoyK> anyone that know if ubuntu is getting closer to NFSv4 ACLs?
[14:44] <RoyK> as in supporting them apart from in kernel space
[14:44] <RoyK> the old utils won't work on new ACLS
[14:44] <RoyK> ACLs, even
[14:59] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:59] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: yes, i would leave the TTS on the client side
[14:59] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: you have a permanent installation of knoppix as your main desktop OS?
[14:59] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: thanks
[15:00] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: if you decide to use an ubuntu desktop you can also install ORCA there
[15:00] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: no, only Live CD
[15:00] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i want to try installing it in the Server a a Console Mode
[15:01] <Boohbah> DelphiWorld: it may be possible but it's usually better to leave graphical applications on the client side
[15:02] <giovani> and graphical applications are explicitly not supported in #ubuntu-server
[15:02] <giovani> once you install X ... you're essentially in #ubuntu territory
[15:02] <DelphiWorld> giovani: don't only talk, you must understand me
[15:03] <DelphiWorld> giovani: adriane use orca but no GUI, in console mode / background
[15:03] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: understand?
[15:03] <giovani> DelphiWorld: don't only talk?
[15:03] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: if no, see the Knoppix6 Live CD
[15:03] <giovani> I'm just making it clear what's appropriate here
[15:03] <DelphiWorld> giovani: understand me
[15:04] <DelphiWorld> giovani: i'm sur what i'm doing
[15:04] <DelphiWorld> giovani: no X11 here about orca in ubuntu server
[15:04] <DelphiWorld> giovani: orca use GUI and console mode version
[15:04] <giovani> great
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> giovani: see Knoppix6 CD is inspired me
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> also, i can't setup UBUNTU alone, i need a helper to setup it for me such a my brother
[15:05] <giovani> I'm not sure how that's relevant here
[15:07] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: mayb i use your suggested app with Flite TTS Engine
[15:11] <ichat> whooot - i actually  got ebox to  create me a  share - and like i thought - its running ok on  ext4
[15:12] <ichat> as of now its just a matter of finding out how to best setup the fileserver :P
[15:15] <DelphiWorld> ichat: good
[15:16] <ichat> i see though that id have better -  mount my  600gb data partition als  /home   rather than as   /mnt/data
[15:16] <ichat> default ebox whats to store its  shares in  /home/ebox/shares
[15:16] <DelphiWorld> ichat: just try to search with me to install a difere OS using ubuntu PXE boot server
[15:17] <ichat> DelphiWorld:  - what os?
[15:17] <DelphiWorld> ichat: for example, CentOs, Slax/.../...
[15:17] <DelphiWorld> netbook don't have a CD reader
[15:18] <ichat> so you want a cleen netboot - rather than a usb boot?
[15:18] <DelphiWorld> ichat: yes, to start the installation troug it
[15:22] <ichat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236601 <<< did you reed?
[15:23] <DelphiWorld> ichat: ok reading
[15:23] <ichat> rather than (adding the nx clients you could try and run the  setup system... as youd do with any ftp  install
[15:27] <DelphiWorld> ichat: what is LTSP?
[15:27] <ichat> its a subset for ubuntu -  something like a terminal service
[15:28] <DelphiWorld> ichat: and we use it for PXE?
[15:30] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i think LTSP use X11
[15:31] <ichat> DelphiWorld:    i c - -  sorry about that boobo :$
[15:31] <ichat> kinda missed that part :S
[15:31] <DelphiWorld> ichat: np :D
[15:34] <ichat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236601 <<< is better :P -
[15:34] <DelphiWorld> Ichat: np with X11
[15:35] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i think is the SAM!
[15:36] <ichat> DelphiWorld:  -  did you check the seccound link -
[15:37] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i think i lost it post it please
[15:40] <ichat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236601 <<<
[15:40] <ichat> in basic, - you need a working dhcp server  (windows  or linux)
[15:40] <ichat> a tftp server
[15:41] <ichat> and a  http (apache )  or  a  FTP   server
[15:41] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i have all that installed in my server DHCP, Apache, TFTP
[15:41] <ichat> and for example the  ubuntu  UNR  ISO file
[15:42] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i started downloading it but is brek
[15:44] <DelphiWorld> ichat: LTSP is installed
[15:44] <ichat> damn :$ ive done this a million times from windows (even booted linux system with it.... but not with ubuntu  tftpd
[15:45] <DelphiWorld> ichat: np i have windows also just guide me
[15:45] <Steve[mbp]> Morning Everyone!
[15:45] <ichat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236601 <<< better use this link... its a bit more easy as it will let you  use the default   img files from your iso
[15:46] <DelphiWorld> ok
[15:50] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i see all this link is the same!
[15:51] <Psi-Jack_> Alright, so, ufw's default list of rules, is pretty overly extensive, and it logs like every single nick-nack & crack, so, yeah.. I'm tring to limit what it logs to things it's not just outright blocking sushc as these:
[15:51] <Psi-Jack_> kernel: [31750.678843] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth1 OUT= MAC=00:0a:cd:18:44:d3:00:13:5f:05:89:05:08:00 SRC=84.215.64.234 DST=97.101.58.138 LEN=131 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=3885 PROTO=UDP SPT=16417 DPT=37483 LEN=111
[15:52] <DelphiWorld> Boohbah: i see all provided link is the same any documentation?
[15:53] <Psi-Jack_> And it's just blocking a whole lot of those. eth1 is my internet NIC, eth0 LAN
[15:53] <Psi-Jack_> The DST is my server's IP address.
[15:55] <ichat> DelphiWorld:  -    you need your tftp server  to load  the the file - pxelinux.0      with live in the    ubuntu alternative.iso
[15:55] <ichat> i have here the  xubuntu   desktop  alternative    and it has the needed files
[15:58] <Psi-Jack_> So, yeah, hmm, whatever it is, it's always just going to port 6881, which nothing's listening on.
[15:59] <ichat> DelphiWorld: -   knowing that all the pxe files are in the alternative iso ....   it must not be to hard to setup pxe with what you want ...  i think...
[16:00] <DelphiWorld> ichat: i want to try booting any OS no only ubuntu
[16:00] <DelphiWorld> ichat: and i think no alternative but MINI CD
[16:03] <Psi-Jack_> No comments for me and my ufw, eh?
[16:11] <DelphiWorld> ichat: got a document in french, reading...
[16:14] <ichat> any initrd  set would be good as long as it supports  booting from a  remote repository
[16:14] <ipsemet> hello all I'm having some trouble with cron jobs. I can not get anything to run. I've put the jobs in /etc/crontab nothing tried sudo crontab -e and still nothing and then i put them in /etc/cron.d/management and still nothing here's the printouts of all of those http://paste.ubuntu.com/251980/
[16:34] <xgpt> hello, I am running 8.04
[16:34] <xgpt> I would like to upgrade my home server's 8.04 installation to ubuntu current, how do I do this?
[16:34] <xgpt> I am trying to run do-release-upgrade and it is spitting out that there is no upgrade
[16:34] <xgpt> I'm guessing something isn't going right
[16:35] <stefan___> edit the release file I forgot the name and change from LTS to CURRENT or something like this ...
[16:37] <stefan___> xgpt: or you can upgratde to 8.10 and then to 9.04
[16:38] <xgpt> understood
[16:38] <xgpt> yeah, i didn't realize that it would be set to LTS only
[16:38] <xgpt> I fixed it!
[16:38] <xgpt> thanks!
[16:38] <stefan___> xgpt: found it : change etc/update-manager/release-upgrades fromm LTS to normal
[16:39] <stefan___> and you can do 8.04 to 9.04 directly
[16:39] <xgpt> also, I'm just curious
[16:39] <xgpt> I might want to ask this in #ubuntu
[16:39] <xgpt> but why is wpasupplicant installed at ALL on a server installation?
[16:39] <xgpt> isn't that entirely unnecessary?
[16:40] <stefan___> maybe because you would turn your laptop in a server ? :)
[16:57] <RoyK> stefan___: afaik there is no direct upgrade path - you need to go via 8.10
[16:58] <stefan___> RoyK:  go to post 13 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135537&page=2
[16:58] <stefan___> tried it once and it worked
[16:59] <RoyK> well, I'd recommend updating step-wise
[16:59] <RoyK> it takes a little longer, but the chance of failure is far lower
[17:14] <stefan___> i might have been just lucky then RoyK
[17:34] <jmedina> @seen ivoks
[17:34] <jmedina> :S
[17:34] <jmedina> anyone using dovecot's sieve?
[19:32] <xorred> hi guys....
[19:32] <xorred> I'm trying desperately to install 8.04 server from USB
[19:33] <xorred> and fail at every single attempt
[19:42] <xorred> anyone ever installed the Server 8.04 from USB?
[19:42] <RoyK> yes
[19:42] <lenios> hi there
[19:46] <ipsemet> where does the cert.pem go with apache2
[19:48] <xorred> RoyK: you installed from USB?
[19:48] <RoyK> hm....
[19:48] <RoyK> not 8.04
[19:48] <RoyK> just 9.04
[19:48] <xorred> doesn't matter I guess?
[19:49] <xorred> how did you do it? any guide you followed?
[19:50] <ikonia> metalfan__: what's up ?
[19:50] <lenios> ipsemet, you might try /etc/ssl/certs/cert.pem
[19:50] <ipsemet> thanks
[19:51] <ikonia> metalfan__: sorry - had some lag there
[19:54] <metalfan__> ikonia, did we talk before?
[19:54] <ikonia> metalfan__: no, I just had an odd lag in the channel, where time stopped at your question?
[20:04] <aurax> hello, any idea how to solve execvp: No such file or directory
[20:07] <ikonia> aurax: what are you actually trying to do ?
[20:41] <aurax> ikonia, never mind sorted it out, thx anyway :)
[20:41] <ikonia> great
[21:00] <metalfan__>  ikonia: i see
[21:01] <metalfan__> ikonia, pmatulils already gave me the right idea
[21:07] <gnomon> Hi!  I'm trying to figure out how amavisd-new treats X-Spam-* headers that have been added to messages by an SMTP server prior to the one on which amavisd-new is running.  Should it pass them through unmolested, or silently drop them?  I'm seeing the latter and am trying to puzzle out which system is at fault.
[21:47] <xorred> ikonia, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1045366.html
[21:47] <xorred> and learn
[21:47] <xorred> then restore my access to #ubuntu accordingly (quote: "installing desktop and server is the same")
[21:47] <ikonia> xorred: thats pretty much the same process as in the factoid ubuntu sent you
[21:48] <xorred> not really the same
[21:48] <ikonia> yes
[21:48] <ikonia> it's the same process as listed in the factoid ubottu sent
[21:48] <ikonia> you're welcome to follow whatever guide you feel works best for you
[21:48] <ikonia> if there is specific stuff, maybe write a wiki page
[21:49] <xorred> I am just proving the point of difference betweeen a desktp and server install
[21:49] <ikonia> xorred: there isn't one with the process
[21:49] <ikonia> but I'm not debating this with you as I said earlier
[21:50] <xorred> there's nothing debating here, unebootin for desktop installation and 2 pages A4 format for a server from usb... it's funny you stil can't admit you were wrong
[21:50] <ikonia> I didn't say use unetbootin
[21:50] <ikonia> but I'd imagine that would work, but I've not tried it myself
[21:50] <ikonia> I said use the usb install guide ubottu sent you
[21:51] <xorred> no it will NOT work
[21:51] <xorred> as server != desktop install
[21:51] <xorred> and yes, I've tried
[21:51] <ikonia> worked fine for me about 25 minutes ago
[21:51] <xorred> you tried server 8.04?
[21:51] <ikonia> I tried an 8.04.2 server image
[21:51] <ikonia> it's all I had to hand
[21:51] <ikonia> but I'll leave you to get on with it
[21:52]  * jmedina also install hardy server using usb...
[21:52] <xorred> jmedina: what process did you use?
[21:52] <xorred> did you use unebootin?
[21:52] <xorred> I'm using a modified version of server 8.04 ..
[21:52] <xorred> the ebox one
[21:53] <jmedina> xorred: yeap using unebootin
[21:53] <ikonia> xorred: where is that version from ?
[21:53] <jmedina> or something like that
[21:53] <xorred> ebox-platform.com
[21:53] <ikonia> xorred: ok - then that distro is not supported in the #ubuntu channels
[21:53] <jmedina> !ebox
[21:53] <xorred> they use ubuntu as base and just add their packages
[21:53] <ikonia> xorred: it doens't matter - it's not supported by the #ubutnu channels
[21:54] <ikonia> !derivatives
[21:55] <xorred> k
[21:55] <ikonia> thanks
[21:56] <jmedina> I follow ebox mailing lists, they provide good support
[21:57] <ikonia> yes, ebox has a very good support reputation from my reading also
[21:57]  * jmedina still prefers zivios for ldap and kerberos authtentication
[21:59] <wikkid> hello everyone.  A software raid 1 drive failed, (two md devices md0 and md1.  md0 is /, md1 is swap), i replaced the drive, and was able to rebuild md0 just fine, i can't seem to rebuild md1 (swap) though, i'm getting "mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md1" when i try to run mdadm --manage /dev/md1 --add /dev/sda2.  any ideas?
[22:00] <ikonia> wikkid: any info in your mdadm.conf ?
[22:00] <wikkid> yeah, i'll pastebin it..
[22:01] <wikkid> http://pastebin.ca/1527090
[22:01] <ikonia> looks a valid entry
[22:01] <ikonia> wikkid: is the swap array started ?
[22:02] <jmedina> is the array assambled?
[22:02] <wikkid> here's the output of cat /proc/mdstat:  http://pastebin.ca/1527093
[22:03] <wikkid> as for is it started / assembled.. i don't know
[22:03] <wikkid> i'm a software raid newb :(
[22:03] <wikkid> i run hardware raid5 at home, but working with mdadm is new to me
[22:03] <jmedina> man mdadm has lots of examples
[22:05] <wikkid> when the drives failed, i ran mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --fail /dev/sda1, then --remove /dev/sda1, then --add /dev/sda1 and it worked fine for md0
[22:06] <wikkid> i would assume it would be same operation for md1, but i'm getting "cannot get array info for /dev/md1" that's where i don't know to go from here.
[22:06] <wikkid> everything to my knowledge looks well and good.  but it also has me wondering if i really need mirrored swap / swap at all (the system appears to be running fine without it, though i'm guessing it's using only the ram it has)
[22:07] <jmedina> wikkid: yeap looks fine, why dont you remove the raid and try ei buuild it again?
[22:07] <jmedina> it is swap, it doesnt matters
[22:08] <wikkid> md1?  or rebuild md0?  by the way, the output of mdadm --assemble /dev/md1  was "mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md1"
[22:25] <Deevz_> im trying to create a user and I get "unable to lock password file"...
[22:26] <wikkid> well jmedia and ikonia, i'm just going to let it run for now and google the hell out of trying to get swap working again later.. md0 (root filesystem) is mirrored and running, that's all i really care about.  thanks for your help! :)
[22:28] <xgpt> hey guys, I want to give a single user access to a folder in my home dir.
[22:33] <jmedina> xgpt: and?
[22:34] <xgpt> jmedina, I would ilke to give them access to an entire folder of media
[22:34] <jmedina> I want a coke
[22:34] <jmedina> xgpt: are you asking for something?
[22:35] <xgpt> jmedina, how do I do it/
[22:36] <xgpt> jmedina, also, can you get me a coke?
[22:36] <jmedina> xgpt: sure, in the mean time read chmods man page
[22:36] <xgpt> jmedina, problem is
[22:36] <xgpt> it won't let me change it
[22:36] <jmedina> xgpt: do you know unix permisions?
[22:36] <xgpt> it's saying there are too many symbolic links
[22:37] <xgpt> jmedina, I understand them
[22:37] <jmedina> show the command you used and the exact message you get
[22:37]  * jmedina hates symlinks
[22:38] <clusty> hey
[22:38] <clusty> is there a way to build more locale's for a system?
[22:39] <clusty> now if I do a locale -a I get: C/POSIX/en_US.utf8
[22:39] <clusty> i wish I had fr_FR or some unicode maybe?
[22:40] <xgpt> jmedina, I hate them too
[22:42] <jmedina> clusty: use locale-gen
[22:43] <jmedina> I always use sudo locale-gen es_MX-UTF-8
[22:43] <enquora> I have several 9.04 installations. Are there repositories to keep ruby and postgresql current?
[22:43]  * jmedina remember the old days when you have to rebuild glibc with your locales kit 
[22:47] <clusty> jmedina, thnaks worked. i got fr_CA. is it unicode or UTF8?
[22:47] <jmedina> what is difference_
[22:47] <jmedina> ?
[22:50] <clusty> jmedina, asking me?
[22:50] <jmedina> yeap
[22:50] <clusty> not sure myself. unicode is the portable thing I think
[22:50] <jmedina> and utf8?
[22:50] <clusty> UTF is not
[22:51] <clusty> i am not an expert
[22:51] <clusty> i am just trying to wrote some C++ code to handle such stuff
[22:51] <clusty> and I am stuck at reading a file :D
[22:51] <clusty> and printing on screen :D
[23:00] <phoenixz> Hi there, anybody here who has experience with EMC powerpath on ubuntu? Will it actually work?
[23:08] <HellMind> this is my story, I need to run a mohaa breaktrought dedicated server on my ubuntu 8.04lts, there are no linux bin, so I installed vmware server 1 and with a windows xp as guest, solve the problem.
[23:08] <HellMind> Now, I detect that the mohaabt server is laggin, I complain vmware, So I want to try it with wine
[23:09] <HellMind> Wine need xorg wich I dont have, I dont have also a local access, just with ssh.
[23:09] <HellMind> How can I install a minimal xorg /wine, to run a windows console app from ssh?
[23:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #412751 in bind9 (main) "bind9 should reload the named apparmor profile, not all of apparmor" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412751
[23:12] <psi-jack__> Alrighty. So I have a routing server, eth0 being on the internal network, eth1 being connected to the internet, handled by dhcp, but when it comes up, it completely replaces my /etc/resolv.conf and I don't want it to.
[23:12] <psi-jack__> How can I fix that so my resolv.conf stays the way I made it?
[23:25] <Nick_Hill> My RHEL 2.1 based system has come to the end of it's supported life after 6 years of faithful operation, needing no support. (really, it is a plesk 6 system due to massive customisation needed to make the system administrable, but that is another story). I am looking to migrate. a painful and potentially frought experience. I have given many days consideration and been looking at Ubuntu as a possible candidate. I
[23:25] <Nick_Hill>  have come up with a series of observations which may be used to improve the Ubuntu server offering. Where should I post my essay?
[23:25] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #412756 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412756
[23:26] <Nick_Hill> The system supports LAMP+email
[23:26] <psi-jack__> Supports LAMP? But LAMP is just Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP
[23:26] <Nick_Hill> psi-jack__, As opposed to a Samba server, or SIP or something else
[23:27] <psi-jack__> It takes a big machine to truely support even JUST LAMP.
[23:27] <psi-jack__> Running all Apache and MySQL on the same system itself, uses up a lot of memory and processing power.
[23:28] <Nick_Hill> psi-jack__, Depends on the usage profile. Virus scanning with Clam seems to be a killer.
[23:29] <Nick_Hill> psi-jack__, Started off with 512Mb, Athlon 1800+.
[23:29] <Nick_Hill> psi-jack__, 30 or so domains.
[23:31] <Nick_Hill> psi-jack__, And the whole lot running again in a chroot jail (with an upgrade to 1Gb)
[23:34] <Nick_Hill> Anyway, I realise that default configurations of popd and imapd assume a 1:1 relationship between email addresses and system users, and assume a 1:1 relationship between domans and machines, so will need to go for a control panel configuration.
[23:34] <HellMind> nobody installed xorg on buntuserver?
[23:35] <Nick_Hill> Is there any virtualmin or syscp type control panel interface supported by Ubuntu?
[23:35] <webereinc> Anyone know how to get server to recognize USB drive when RAID array is already using sda1, sdb1. and sdc1... the inserted drive is not listed in fdisk -l
[23:36] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, Have you looked at dmesg?
[23:36] <webereinc> Nick_HIll - yes, it is not showing any new messages
[23:37] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, Try modprobe usb-storage
[23:37] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, usb_storage
[23:38] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, Then look at dmesg. Should then see the device.
[23:40] <webereinc> Nick_Hill, dmesg now says the following:
[23:40] <webereinc> [2317749.562628] usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual
[23:40] <webereinc> [2317749.582802] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[23:40] <webereinc> [2317749.582841] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[23:40] <webereinc> [2317749.582847] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[23:41] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, Do you know for sure the USB socket works?
[23:41] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, May not be connected internally if front panel.
[23:41] <webereinc> It did when it was a windows machine <grin>
[23:41] <Nick_Hill> What are you plugging in?
[23:41] <webereinc> USB thumb drive - also, it does light so there at least is power
[23:42] <Nick_Hill> Try unplugging them plug in again. Look at dmesg. May be picked up once the storage driver loaded.
[23:43] <webereinc> no new messages
[23:44]  * jmedina has experienced that with poor quality usb ports
[23:45] <webereinc> OK, I'll try some other approaches.
[23:45] <webereinc> Thanks
[23:45] <Nick_Hill> webereinc, Have you seen the drive working on desktop Ubuntu? Maybe an unrecognised ID. Try a different drive.
[23:45] <Nick_Hill> and a different port