[00:00] it usually works, but some packages whose e.g. config files format or location, changed need some manual fixing afterwards [00:01] and it takes more time to fix those that to reinstall from scratch and then populate /home from backup copies. [00:01] exactly [00:03] hence why a good external USB 2.0 hard-disk is probably the best investment anyone whose life depends upon a computer can ever make! :) [00:05] it's fairly straightforward to use e.g. bacula or a home-brewn rsync recipe to regularly update the backup copy of /home on the external disk and be able to quickly re-install from scratch if necessary. [00:06] USB 2.0 sucks. [00:06] Even Firewire 400 is better. [00:06] And eSATA owns both. [00:06] s/o/p/g [00:07] e-sata is broken :( [00:07] btw, does anyone feel like doing some bug hunting? I found a nice apt-get recipe that makes a whole nice bunch of dependency recursions appear :) [00:08] so far, it already made it apparent that reinstalling libc and bash, then ifupdown and netbase, is impossible, because of recursions in either Depends/Recommends or in init scripts. [00:08] and those are already failry basic packages [00:09] eSATA works for me, aside from demanding authentication to mount it. [00:10] sudo apt-get --reinstall --ignore-missing install $(dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1) [00:10] that single line is probably one of the most efficient bug hunting tool I've found in a long, long time. [00:11] * DanaG would do it with aptitude reinstall, but same end result. [00:11] DanaG: aptitude is unable to ignore missing packages [00:12] oh, you mean like missing deb files... or packages that no longer exist? [00:12] packages that no longer exist, were manually installed from 3rd-party sources, etc. [00:13] anything that it cannot fond from repositories currently defined in /etc/apt/sources.list [00:13] öö.. find [00:15] btw, if you have 'insserv' installed, beware: the above line reveals even more packaging bugs than normal. [00:15] what's insserv? [00:16] !info insserv [00:16] insserv (source: insserv): boot sequence organizer using LSB init.d script dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12.0-5 (karmic), package size 68 kB, installed size 292 kB === JanC_ is now known as JanC [00:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugReportersStrike [00:41] LOLOLOLOLOL [00:42] will this even work?? [00:49] BUGabundo: it could be troublesome if enough people were to do it.. [00:49] bzr commit -m '* good-bye "Multisearch"; we remove our karmic alpha3 experiment called [00:50] ahhahaahahaah [00:50] especially for us, volunteer triagers who has nothing to say [00:50] kklimonda: I (still) love Ubuntu very much to do that [00:50] I've been hit in the back several times by the design team [00:50] but love this project too much to leave it right now [00:50] BUGabundo: my/our perspective may be wrong as we use irc and have a pretty good contact with core developers [00:50] much ado about nothing [00:51] who bloody cares what the default shiretoko home page is [00:51] kklimonda: can you imagine? [00:51] if we would *really* did a strike? [00:51] for 1 month [00:51] ahah [00:52] BUGabundo: we as in all volunteers or all bug reporters? ;) [00:52] strange never thought about those things [00:52] neither did I [00:52] but it's offtopic [00:52] * scizzo- feels monitored [00:52] *we* volunteers here in the # [00:52] we are the best part of the devel cycel [00:52] so let's go to the -offtopic if you want to follow this topic (It's kinda interesting) [00:52] its thanks to us that Ubuntu shappes up for release [00:52] ohh [00:52] to noisy there [00:53] and I'm sleeper [00:53] not really [00:53] :D [00:53] * BUGabundo tries OT [00:53] * BUGabundo joins #ubuntu-offtopic [00:56] what is used to install .dsc files? [00:58] dpkg-source -x [01:05] dpkg-source -x file.dsc [01:06] spO: *.dsc files don't get installed. they are source code components. [01:07] doing the command that bjsnider described above just unpacks the source code for a debianized package. [01:10] bed time [01:10] bye [01:34] hey [01:34] I have trouble under karmic with my atheros wifi card [01:41] weird. the grub gfxmenu thing is dog-slow. [01:41] It continually repaints the screen.... and each time it repaints, it takes 1.5 seconds or so to do so. [01:45] gnome shell got uploaded to universe [01:45] works pretty well compared to the last time i've checked it out [01:47] upgrading to karmic broke my system [01:48] i hope you guys are happy now [01:48] we live to serve ;) [02:02] hello, I upgraded to karmic and my xorg.conf looks incompatible, how do I recreate it to a karmic compatible version? [02:03] GDM flickers [02:03] heh, I just saw evolution taking 9999% of cpu in top.. [02:04] djdarkman: it may be some bug in gdm or xsplash or few other things and not necessarily a problem with your xorg.conf [02:07] well probably gdm kklimonda, because when I logged in it still flickered, but I went into the Display, and pushed apply, and the flicker was gone, but if I restart GDM still flickers until I log in [02:07] * GDM login [02:11] hmmm netbook launcher crashes an awfull lot of times [02:32] er. How does one change the sounds for Gnome (for example, the sound for window closing)? Sounds Preferences only allows me to enable/disable windows sounds, and select a theme, but not to change specific entries [02:33] Is there anyway to get the regular sound preferences applet back? [02:33] good question, methinks [02:33] Heh. Pretty well the same question. :P [02:40] heh, gnome-shell is roasting my cpu and gpu :/ [02:41] J-_, that's why :-) [02:41] hggdh, hrm? [02:41] kklimonda, in my case it was gnome-do. Roasting *all* CPUs [02:42] your question vs mine [02:45] huh, any idea how to bring back any WM when I kill the last one? [02:46] in the past I could just switch to tty and do DISPLAY=:0 metacity [02:46] but now it doesn't work [02:50] I guess I'm going to try Fedora [02:51] I don't like this, same old stuff. Different release. [03:00] even metacity --replace & ? [03:00] (which is I need to do right now. Well, not metacity, but compiz) [03:09] hggdh: from tty I was geting "Unknown protocol" or something like that [03:09] hggdh: and when WM isn't running you can't use keyboard at all [03:09] in X session [03:10] even "No protocol specified" [03:11] heh, totem has crashed and new apport dialog is displayed [03:11] "How would you describe the issue?" [03:11] "interface is not working correctly" [03:11] "no sound is being played" [03:12] "some audio/video files are not being played correctly" [03:12] how am I supposed to choose from those options? :) [03:12] i guess it's the first one.. [03:13] :-) [03:13] isn't there a "lost windows"? [03:15] heh, no wonder I'm so sensitive about those _XError() crashes - I get one every day :/ [03:17] I've never got them before so something is definitely odd but seb128 said that the number of those reports isn't high enough to panic.. [03:25] how is everyone [03:28] anyone here have any suggestions for the best possible way to backup an entire harddisk? [03:29] my ma needs to send hers in for a new backlight, so i thought i'd back it up for her first, and to be honest have never done a backup in *nix [03:29] i was thinking dd but dont know what to output it to, as in dd if=/dev/hdd of=????? [03:30] billybigrigger: if all you need is backup data and you don't care about all metadata (permissions etc.) then use tar [03:30] Oh yeah, instead of dd, I use gddrescue -- it figures out optimal block size on its own. [03:32] You can just 'dd' it to a file. [03:32] ... on a drive that has the room for it, of course. [03:33] It's not the most elegant or efficient, but it's the easiest to recover from. [03:39] hmm, my eSATA drive gives me this: powered on: unknown. temperature: unknown. [03:42] DanaG: drive itself or some userspace program? [03:42] Anyway, I do know that the drive enclosure has a SATA-to-SATA bridge. [03:43] so, palimpsest (HORRIBLE name, by the way!) and smartmontools can't read SMART info from it. [03:43] The only thing that CAN read it, is "hdd sentinel". [03:43] palimprest is an awesome name ;} [03:44] j/k - seriously, why couldn't they just call it gnome-disk-utility or -tools.. [03:44] yeah. [03:44] I installed the package, and then tried to run gnome-disk-utility... [03:44] doesn't exist -- wtf? [03:44] =þ [03:44] I had to dpkg --listfiles to find it. [03:45] yeah [03:46] exactly how I've found it.. [03:46] sata-to-sata bridge... stupid. =þ [03:46] sounds.. pointless [03:48] http://forums.storagereview.net/lofiversion/index.php/t27446.html [03:50] the way I understand it, you'd want a sata-to-sata bridge only if the enclosure allowed other interconnect types - for example, usb... ex: http://www.initio.com/Html/Doc/INIC-1610%20Product%20Brief.pdf [03:50] (the block diagram is useful to understand the use case I think) [03:54] great, mutter is leaking memory like a sleve.. 135mb and counting.. [03:56] yeah, it does have USB and FW400. [03:56] oh, and a different thing: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5140699 [04:03] Is there anyway to make the volume for audio not so sensative? [04:04] sensitive* [04:05] not really, I hear almost nothing in my laptop speakers when volume is down to 40% [04:05] even 50 according to the alsamixer [04:06] unleass that's not what you've asked about.. [04:06] sigh. I'm at like 3% volume, and it's at normal listening for me, if I use the volume button on my laptop, or the slider just move it a tick, it's just overbearing. [04:06] <|ns|nR8> there is 2 volume controls to adjust..PCM and master [04:07] <|ns|nR8> turn PCM down and master wont go so loud [04:07] kklimonda, DanaG sorry i stepped out for a minute there [04:07] |ns|nR8: they are now connected [04:07] what is the best backup options i have? [04:07] There's no way to download PCM [04:07] its a windows laptop drive [04:07] i just want a backup of the files, mostly the new nephew's pictures and resumes and such [04:08] Unless there's another applet somewhere [04:08] billybigrigger: how much data are we talking about? [04:08] kklimonda, the whole drive, 100gb [04:08] i have plenty of space to backup the whole drive [04:08] <|ns|nR8> right click on volume control, select open volume control [04:08] <|ns|nR8> J-_, that was for you [04:08] acer shouldn't even touch the drive, its the just the backlight being replaced, but just in case [04:09] |ns|nR8, Yeah, the last response I said was for you, too. :) [04:09] |ns|nR8: new mixer doesn't really let you to choose between Master and PCM [04:09] I wish it did. [04:09] and its a sata disk so backing it up should be fairly painless [04:09] billybigrigger: do you want to make a 1:1 copy so you can restore it later? [04:10] billybigrigger: or do you just want to copy files so they are safe? [04:10] kklimonda, well that would be my only option wouldn't it? [04:10] kklimonda, i don't want to pick through and backup single files, because technically acer shouldn't even touch the drive [04:10] morning [04:10] billybigrigger: then go with gddrescue [04:10] i don't mind letting it sit there and backup 100gb all night, because i'll probably end up deleting it when the laptop is returned [04:11] billybigrigger: it will create a 1:1 copy of disk so you can later do anything you like with it [04:11] right on [04:11] what's that terminal volume applet called? [04:11] dd it to some file. [04:12] kklimonda, gddresuce = gtk frontend for dd? [04:12] nope, it' [04:12] it's a revision on ddrescue. [04:12] ddrescue stops at bad areas, and tries to recover them... [04:12] J-_: try searching for volume in add applet window [04:12] gddrescue realizes that's stupid on a failing drive... it skips them, and comes back. [04:12] but it may be gone already [04:13] hmm.. I kinda like gnome-shell already [04:13] gddrescue: [04:13] Installed: 1.2-1.3 [04:13] billybigrigger@cabo:~/debian$ gddrescue [04:13] No command 'gddrescue' found, did you mean: [04:13] kklimonda, Yeah, it's deprecated, and when added, it doesn't function. [04:13] billybigrigger: dpkg -L gddrescue [04:14] oh, the command is ddrescue [04:14] it looks like they're trying to get rid of PCM. If that's the case, I'm going to be pissed because I've always had problems with volume since Gutsy or around here. PCM let me adjust accordingly, and it worked out perfect with MASTER. [04:15] J-_, what kind of sound hardware is this? [04:15] brb need to install this desk [04:15] disk [04:17] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [04:18] i'm not sure what dtchen would say about that, but i can guess [04:19] ie., junk, shite, garbage [04:19] take your pick [04:20] bjsnider: whatever, it's installed in most laptops ;O [04:20] ;) [04:22] I'd also think that, having both Output Volume, and volume in the application tab would have separate levels, but they move at the same level when one is moved. [04:22] J-_: it's called flat volume [04:26] * billybigrigger didn't think this through [04:26] my 1TB raid setup uses 2 sata disks [04:27] notebook hdd is sata [04:27] :P [04:27] was going to backup the disk to the raid array, doh! [04:28] billybigrigger: yo could always do it over the network [04:28] kklimonda, could, but i have the disk installed on this system already [04:28] i cleared enough space in my /home [04:28] im good now :P [04:29] will ddrescue back up an entire devblock ? or just partitions? [04:30] kklimonda, any special options i need to set? [04:30] or just let er rip? [04:30] ddrescue /dev/sda1 ~/windows1 [04:31] ddrescue /dev/sda2 ~/windows2 [04:31] ? [04:31] I'd backup whole sda [04:31] so i can backup an entire devblock? [04:31] nice [04:33] output file is a directory [04:33] so .... haha ~/windows/windows? [04:33] kklimonda, yes itis installed in most laptops, but dtchen uses an m-audio usb stick that can replace the onboard chip in any computer [04:33] or does the output need an extension [04:34] hrm I'm interested in playing a game of sorts to see how my laptop handles graphics since glxgears is working out at like 3000 FPS, but yeah. "Not a proper benchmark" :P Although in Hardy and below I'd only get like 500-600FPS. [04:34] J-_, phoronix test suite my friend [04:34] if you want graphics benchmarks [04:34] bjsnider: I don't like things sticking out of my laptop :) [04:34] J-_, what kind of gfx card? [04:35] GM965 [04:35] hihi [04:35] * J-_ waves [04:35] sorry, i couldn't stop myself ;) [04:35] :) [04:36] wow, intel double-whammy [04:36] 28276 frames in 5.0 seconds for my 9800GTX+ [04:36] not a benchmark i know [04:36] that's an ok card [04:36] kibnd of overpriced [04:36] 4046 frames in 5.0 seconds -+ [04:36] you could get away with playing some games i guess [04:36] i'd go down to a 9800 gt or up to a gtx 260 [04:37] to be honest i don't even use it [04:37] I get 8600 and info about it syncing to my vertical refresh (which is bogus obviously) [04:37] but I can't really play anything with it.. [04:37] one thing to try: rss-glx screensavers. [04:37] stupid heroes of newerth are slowing down when there is a big fight :/ [04:38] command not found. [04:39] DanaG, apt says its the newest version, but rss-glx command not found [04:39] DanaG, nice screensavers? [04:41] yeah. [04:42] though they'd be wasteful to have run on "idle". [04:44] can't seem to get them installed :( === ripps_ is now known as ripps [04:48] rss-glx is the package name. [04:52] any major changes in the last two weeks? [04:53] rss-glx is already the newest version [04:53] DanaG, rss-glx screensavers is not found [04:53] rss-glx command not found [04:54] oh, the commands are actually in /usr/lib/xscreensaver [04:54] there's flux and skyrocket and euphoria and solarwinds and such. [04:54] which ones are from the rss-glx package? [04:59] dpkg --listfiles rss-glx [05:03] will ddrescue copy the entire 160gb ntfs device? [05:03] or just the data? [05:03] Or you could just go into System > Preferences > Screensavers. :P [05:04] I had a bug with one, it's already reported [05:04] I think it was with flux [05:04] the "runs at insane-o speed"? [05:04] theres some screensavers that arent in /usr/lib/xscreensaver but still show up in the list [05:05] i always go in and delete the crappy ones [05:05] but theres a few left over [05:05] what is the page from where I can see all the alpha, beta and rc release of karmic [05:06] Does the current setup of Karmic use Pulseaudio? [05:07] I'm just wondering if I should try to delete the pulseaudio config in my mpd.conf to see if the volume works any better [05:07] The volume on Sonata doesn't even work. [05:07] So I'm guessing it isn't using Pulse atm [05:08] !info mpd [05:08] mpd (source: mpd): Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14.2-3ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 162 kB, installed size 496 kB [05:21] I guess I'll try KDE4.3 === djdarkman is now known as Undertaker === Undertaker is now known as PalinkaRulz [05:57] i tried to do a fresh install of alpha 3, but it just stayed at 5% while formating/installing the os === PalinkaRulz is now known as djdarkman === zehrique is now known as zehrique-Sleepin [08:09] Is there anyway to get rid of gnome and have pure kde? Does !purekde work in karmic? [08:31] !grub2 [08:31] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [09:25] ooo, nice.... mdadm 3.1 is going to have raid1 -> 5 and 5 -> 6 migration, with support for continuing if there's a failure in the middle of it all [09:25] s'pretty cool... =) [09:35] Twigaathy: nice. [09:38] I don't think it'll be out for ubuntu+1, maybe for +1+1 though :D [09:38] unless someone packages the pre-release version of mdadm :) [09:51] does karmic koala have any app installed by default to open epub books [09:52] or any apps in repos to open the files of that format [09:52] coz epub was supposed to be a open format for ebooks or soemthing [10:25] i was playing a tune in spotify, and pidgin made a someone's online sound, and wine immediately went quiet [10:26] and has to be restarted to play anything [10:27] i think i'm going oss4 soon [10:39] howdy! I'm wondering what is the correct syntax for declaring the framebuffer size on grub cmdline, these days? vga=794 no longer works, it seems. have we reverted to Hex values again or am I missing a kernel module? [10:39] Will !purekde work with KDE4.3 in karmic? [10:59] Q-FUNK: It certainly has changed; I'm not sure what supplications our new KMS overlords require. [11:02] Is the icon that popped up in my notification tray today to tell me my disk has bad sectors new? [11:02] Or are the bad sectors just new? [11:04] Weird, sound plays through firefox but not using moc :s [11:05] alpha 4 not released yet? [11:05] rleeds: did you just update your karmic? [11:05] richardcavell, yes [11:05] s0u][ight: no [11:06] rleeds: I don't know anything about it. I wouldn't believe the report, though [11:06] Karmic has enough bugs that I wouldn't trust any status report [11:08] RAOF: KMS hasn't been ported to every graphic hardware out there, though. [11:10] Q-FUNK: Right. But I think the framebuffer code _is_. [11:11] for instance, the Geode hardware isn't supported by KMS. [11:11] !grub2 | Q-FUNK [11:11] Q-FUNK: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [11:11] mac_v: and exactly how is grub2 supposed to magically make KMS supported on Geode? [11:12] Q-FUNK: AFAIK , if it aint in the wiki , it aint supported [11:12] you're not answering the question. what was the point of this grub2 link? [11:13] Q-FUNK: "I'm wondering what is the correct syntax for declaring the framebuffer size on grub cmdline, these days? vga=794 no longer works," for that [11:13] mac_v: that says nothing about what bootloader I use. [11:14] Q-FUNK: oh , are you using grub? and not grub2 [11:14] yup. [11:15] !grub [11:15] GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [11:15] * richardcavell is frustrated that Karmic is not giving sound on MacBook [11:16] I know grub syntax, thanks. the exact format of the vga= string has changed a lot between kernel releases, though. [11:16] ah, it appears that the solution is to comment vesafb out in blacklist-frambuffer.conf [11:16] Q-FUNK: "vga=" is not necessary [11:16] yeah that too^ [11:16] grmbl. this used to be compiled into the kernel [11:17] mac_v: and exactly how are you supposed to request a specific framebuffer size+depth without that vga=795 fragment? [11:20] Q-FUNK: it is supposed to detect on its onw, you dont need to specify... are you having problems if not specified? [11:20] own* [11:25] any plans when burning apps will be fixed on Karmic ? Its still unpossible to burn anything :( [11:26] dupondje: English isn't your first language, is it? [11:26] indeed :P [11:26] dupondje: that's okay. My French sucks [11:28] richardcavell: my australian sucks ;) [11:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/397776 [11:29] Launchpad bug 397776 in brasero "Unable to find any device" [Low,Confirmed] [11:29] this is like important no ? [11:29] mac_v: You know, when I update Karmic (or Jaunty), it tries to download Australian English translations, and it doesn't have any [11:29] can't burn a thing with Ubuntu :s [11:32] dupondje: those are know issues with brasero , i'm not sure of the exact bug# [11:32] check lp [11:41] mac_v: it will not detect on its own on a platform to which KMS has not been ported. [11:42] Q-FUNK: oh... didnt know ... sorry [11:43] np :) [11:43] most AGP cards on the market and a few older ones have been ported to KMS. non-AGP and older cards have not been ported. [11:45] is possible to use xorg.conf in karmic? [11:45] EagleScreen: AFAIK it's still possible, though usually not needed. [12:13] my karmic doesn't activate the screen saver, even though it is configured to do so. does yours? [12:49] Packaging Training Session "On-Call Review" with cjwatson, seb128, james_w and me in 12m in #ubuntu-classroom [12:50] Ive problem with gdm. No possible to unglock radiobuttons in gdmsetup. Any solution? [12:55] portmap / rpcinfo / nfs seem to have broken on my last karmic updates [12:55] `rpcinfo -p` just hangs there :( [12:55] and similarly nfs-common's rpc.statd cannot start up as it times out registerinfg [12:55] <|ns|nR8> maybe you shouldnt be such a hacker then oldman_ [12:55] heh [12:56] <|ns|nR8> joking buddy [12:56] <|ns|nR8> yeah looks like it will be a mess till beta [12:56] <|ns|nR8> again [12:57] oh ok, hadn't spotted any bugs filed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/portmap [12:58] heh [13:37] A quick request for anyone with a running karmic system with an uptime of at least 24 hours - please could you run "ps -efH" and see if you have a run-parts process with a defunct logrotate child hanging around? Thanks [13:39] maxb: yes [13:40] step 2 - does the logrotate go away and your cron.daily run continue if you "invoke-rc.d rsyslog reload" ? [13:41] yes [13:42] riiiiight. bit of a comedy bug there. /me reports [13:47] anybody know if the floppy drive issues were fixed yet? [13:52] kklimonda: LP 413023 ftr [13:52] Launchpad bug 413023 in rsyslog "rsyslogd holds open stderr fd from environment that ran its init script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413023 [14:02] hi [14:02] I'm testing the alpha3 live cd [14:03] emphaty is missing the irc support so I can't ask for help from karmic live [14:03] and the audio is broken [14:04] can you help me fixing the audio problem? [14:05] the audio chipset is: ATI IXP SB400 AC'97 (rev 02) [14:06] !sound > MementoMori [14:06] MementoMori, please see my private message [14:09] gnomefreak: I cant change the audio driver from the sound preferences [14:10] MementoMori: thats not all it says IIRC. i would file a bug and use the script that is mentioned on one of those links [14:11] !sound > mac_v [14:11] mac_v, please see my private message [14:12] gnomefreak: but how can I check if I'm using alsa or pulseaudio? [14:13] as i recall PA uses alsa but the sound dialog should sow you but first start with typing alsamixer in terminal and make sure everything is set right [14:13] So.. I got a specifically Kubuntu Karmic related question. Shall I relay it to #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu? :D [14:13] Here [14:14] gnomefreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1075893 [14:15] MementoMori: for empathy irc , you have to install telepathy-idle [14:15] Alright. As opposed to any other version of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, alpha beta or LTS, Kubuntu Karmic doesn't auto-connect to my router w/ eth0 (wired). However. As soon as I am logged in and type 'sudo dhclient eth0' it works, but running the dhclient command takes about a minute which is mighty annoying. Anyone got input on that? [14:16] I realize i can just write a script that runs the command as login but I'd rather solve the problem than to work around it :) [14:16] suit: expect annoying its alpha still, things dont work atm [14:17] suit: you would need a kde perosn for this and one should be around here now but if not someone will pop in sometime [14:18] gnomefreak: thanks [14:18] MementoMori: looking at the iwki you gave me did you try the work around? [14:19] s/iwki/wiki [14:20] gnomefreak: if you look at post 10 you'll read the problem is supposed to be fixed in karmic. So I don't know which workaround you are referring to. [14:21] gnomefreak: anyway the sound is working using the last ubuntu LTS === debfx_ is now known as debfx [14:22] but from 8.10 to now I hit this problem [14:22] hello all! can anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237361 [14:22] MementoMori: sure it works in Jaunty too :) [14:23] gnomefreak: I tried jaunty but I got this sound problem [14:27] Michalxo, I would not worry. [14:27] I updated my karmic yesterday and got the same errors. [14:28] so I am right when I am blaming some update to showing the error where is no error :) (where is the problem?) [14:28] I don't know where the problem is. [14:28] Or I would report it as a bug. [14:28] But I don't believe either of our HDD has bad sectors. I think we are safe. [14:28] well.. i did not want to.. but now, when I am not alone :) [14:29] is it possible to move thread from answers.launchpad to bugs.launchapd? [14:29] You can file a bug and put a link? [14:29]