[00:00] <imran> heatmzzr, IDK and again sorry D: I
[00:00] <kub1> Do you know where/how I can find out what packages the "main" repository supplies? A url?  I couldn't find that info myself at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ nor http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  - Any suggestions??
[00:00] <mickster04> hafiz, its usually an option just under the main one
[00:00] <jedi06> trying to get my flash to work in firefox ubuntu 9.04 x64 just shows up blank.  I have flashplugin-nonfree installed.
[00:00] <imran> heatmzzr, IDK and again sorry D: I'll google it and see if i can find anything :D
[00:00] <zigi> Does any body know how to set the password for x11vnc?
[00:00] <mickster04> jedi06, try systemdetails.com
[00:00] <N3M35I5> type x11vnc
[00:00] <dylanmcd> KB1JWQ: hrm, scp doesn't work but it gave me a verbose error, complains of not having access to /dev/null
[00:00] <nburns> this might be the biggest noob channel ive ever seen
[00:00] <N3M35I5> it should prompt you for a password
[00:00] <mickster04> jedi06, pastein the text summary at the bottom
[00:00] <savanny1976u> Thank you "ZZ". I will try that..
[00:00] <N3M35I5> hey, can anyone help me mound a hard drive so it will share on samba?. Its already mounted to /media/newhdd but i wanna know how to share it in samba
[00:00] <mzz> dylanmcd: how'd you manage that? /dev/null normally has 666 permissions
[00:00] <mickster04> nburns, u have a problem?
[00:01] <nburns> mickster04, just cracks me up
[00:01] <imran> heatmzzr, how bout : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97404
[00:01] <arand> jedi06: first, use flashplugin-installer instead (-nonfree is an old transition package), and secondly, on 64bit the alpha version of v.10 from adobe labs usually works much better.
[00:01] <mickster04> nburns, we all start somewhere
[00:01] <dylanmcd> KB1JWQ: this is an unmanaged vps (fresh install)
[00:01] <dylanmcd> KB1JWQ: changing permissions worked though, thanks for your help
[00:02] <jedi06> arand i have the installer installed too
[00:02] <nburns> mickster04, yeah i remember going into IRC and getting "man whatever" - that's how you learn
[00:02] <mzz> jedi06: I've had that alpha version crash on me (on navigating away from pages mainly) though.
[00:02] <mzz> jedi06: flash on 64 bit still isn't a very happy thing.
[00:02] <imran> nburns, maybe thats because we all want to learn something new and how can you learn something new without starting it and hence being a noob?
[00:02] <dylanmcd> KB1JWQ: kinda silly I had to try sshfs and sftp before I got an error that actually explained the problem ;)
[00:02] <jedi06> flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree is installed
[00:02] <nburns> nburns, that's great but 99% of these problems can be solved with google
[00:02] <N3M35I5> hey, can anyone help me mound a hard drive so it will share on samba?. Its already mounted to /media/newhdd but i wanna know how to share it in samba. Samba is running but i cant get it to show the hard drive. thanks
[00:03] <jedi06> arand should i uninstall non-free?
[00:03] <imran> nburns, Yeah - half solved. When something errors after doing your google, you ask for help
[00:03] <imran> nburns, sure, some ppl are lazy but sometimes google is only half the answer. Also...
[00:03] <nburns> imran, you check the forums, google again, then ask
[00:03] <imran> !offtopic | nburns
[00:03] <jedc> s dylanmcd, what is the output of "ls -l /dev/ | grep null" in a terminal?
[00:03] <userone> is is important for grub do know if a disk is IDE or SCSI? I was following this link for dual-boot vista: http://www.pronetworks.org/forums/how-to-dual-boot-windows-vista-and-linux-t78184.html and its the first time i have come across this.
[00:03] <nburns> !shutup | imran
[00:03] <arand> jedi06: do a search for "flash" in synaptic, and see if you have other stuff (gnash, swfdec...) installed. Those could override the "proper" flash
[00:04] <sam^> Sup
[00:04] <imran> !language | nburns
[00:04] <maco> nburns: be nice
[00:04] <nburns> lol
[00:04] <nburns> chill out
[00:04] <jedi06> arand nope
[00:04] <TheFunkbomb> how can I remove a driver?
[00:04] <N3M35I5> hey, can anyone help me mound a hard drive so it will share on samba?. Its already mounted to /media/newhdd but i wanna know how to share it in samba. Samba is running but i cant get it to show the hard drive. thanks
[00:04] <arand> jedi06: you can uninstall -nonfree if you want, I'm uncertain if it will do anything though...
[00:04] <imran> nburns, same to you :) Im pretty chilled
[00:04] <maco> nburns: this channel is meant to be encouraging and supportive. you are not doing so. either do so or leave, please
[00:04] <nburns> alright, later fells
[00:04] <nburns> fellas
[00:04] <jedi06> ok done
[00:04] <maco> ..and gals
[00:04] <imran> sheesh some people huh?
[00:05] <N3M35I5> hey, can anyone help me mound a hard drive so it will share on samba?. Its already mounted to /media/newhdd but i wanna know how to share it in samba. Samba is running but i cant get it to show the hard drive. thanks
[00:05] <dylanmcd> jedc: crw-rw-rw- 1 root   root    1,   3 2009-07-17 10:22 null
[00:05] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I can't get uber cool networking features such as Samba and DAAP to work properly. :(
[00:05] <dylanmcd> jedc: after I chmodded to 666
[00:05] <ascheel> N3M35I5: sudo vi /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:05] <jedi06> in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin there is flashplugin-alternative.so
[00:06] <jedc> dylanmcd, thats right, does it work now?
[00:06] <mzz> yay, the ubuntu cd I just burned is corrupted. Does someone happen to know of some ready-made installer image that runs off a usb stick and supports lvm?
[00:06] <TheFunkbomb> I have an issue, I installed the rt73 enhanced drivers.  I don't like how they perform.  How do I get rid of them?
[00:06] <epaphus> Is there a html editor that i can easily install in ubuntu=
[00:06] <epaphus> ?
[00:06] <MOUD> Hey again
[00:06] <TheFunkbomb> epaphus, bluefish
[00:06] <th0r> epaphus: kompozer
[00:06] <dylanmcd> jedc: Yup, I guess it just came with this install at a lower permissions for some reason (dunno if it's the VPS hosts thing or what, they didn't mention a modified install)
[00:07] <jedc> !html | epaphus
[00:07] <kosmic> How should I upgrade 8.10 to 9.04
[00:07] <kermit> any settings i change in system/preferences dont do anyhting, i think that stupid gconf registry thing is broken, how do i fix it?
[00:07] <savanny1976u> 1 more Question"ZZ'. Can I do  "Copy partion" using GParted? I have 2 Identical 1.5TB Drives. Thank you.
[00:07] <mzz> savanny1976u: sure, why not
[00:07] <jedc> dylanmcd, cool, yea its weird that they were changed
[00:07] <mzz> savanny1976u: (assuming you mean me, you're consistently misspelling my nick for some reason)
[00:07] <N3M35I5> ascheel
[00:07] <N3M35I5> thanks
[00:07] <jedi06> so arand should i uninstall the flashplugin-installer and dl it directly from adobe
[00:07] <userone> or, does anyone the terminal command for finding out if a hard disk is an IDE or SCSI? when i installed 9.04 it said it was partitioning scsi1, but when it boots up it boots from (hd0,2). shouldn't that be (sd0, 2)?
[00:07] <ascheel> N3M35I5: no problem.
[00:08] <savanny1976u> Thanks for the help.
[00:08] <mzz> userone: no, grub uses the bios to access drives, which means it doesn't care how they're connected, just what order the bios sees them in.
[00:08] <trinidad_> does anyone know the reason why ubuntu is not release on a cd in the 64 bit version?
[00:08] <arand> jedi06: I currently have -installer uninstalled and only using the plugin file from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[00:08] <mzz> userone: once ubuntu is actually booted you can look in dmesg to see what's what.
[00:08] <zigi> Need help setting password on X11vnc server!
[00:08] <epaphus> how would i go about installing Quanta??
[00:08] <MOUD> How can I use sudo apt-get to download the files but not install it?
[00:08] <mzz> trinidad_: it is
[00:09] <ascheel> N3M35I5: let me show you a sample smb.conf that's VERY simple.  http://pastebin.com/d9606822
[00:09] <jedi06> ok i uninstalled non-free and restarted firefox seemed to work
[00:09] <trinidad_> you cannot get it through the shipit channel
[00:09] <trinidad_> you have to download it and burn it yourself
[00:09] <mzz> trinidad_: I don't know about shipit.
[00:09] <arand> jedi06: ok, then thats solved?
[00:10] <jedi06> seems to be
[00:10] <trinidad_> do you know how we can find out
[00:10] <kermit> when i change something in preferences, the .gconf xml files get updated, but nothing changes
[00:10] <jedc> trinidad_, cant you dl and burn the 64 bit version?
[00:10] <jedc> epaphus, "sudo apt-get install quanta"
[00:10] <epaphus> thanks
[00:10] <zigi> Need help setting password on X11vnc server!
[00:10] <trinidad_> i can but i know people who cannot burn them on their machine
[00:11] <trinidad_> and they are the ones asking me about the 64 bi version
[00:12] <jedc> trinidad_, i didnt know they dont send the 64 bit version, probably because most people burn their own and 64 bit is less prevailent
[00:12] <imerso> woohoo, ubuntu remix rocks under this netbook =)
[00:12] <imerso> very kewl
[00:12] <arand> MOUD: use -d option (see apt-get --help for this and other options)
[00:12] <zigi> CAN ANYBODY HELP? Need help setting password on X11vnc server!
[00:13] <N3M35I5> zigi
[00:13] <N3M35I5> have you tried tyupeing
[00:13] <sekaab> Good Bye
[00:13] <MOUD> arand: I'm reading it, thanks :)
[00:13] <N3M35I5> x11vnc
[00:13] <maco> trinidad_: there are no 64bit versions in shipit anymore
[00:13] <userone> mzz: dmesg says sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk, for sda1, sda2, sda3. do is the hard disk a scsi type?
[00:13] <th0r> zigi: should be able to set the password in the command line
[00:13] <N3M35I5> x11vncserver*
[00:13] <trinidad_> just a thought have both on the same disk so that when you install you have the option of installing either version
[00:13] <maco> trinidad_: that would require DVDs
[00:13] <zigi> th0r:wait 1 sec
[00:13] <Tartaros> I have found out that a thingy called xinerama enables 2 monitors by creating one big virtual desktop for them. But what if I want 2 separate desktops (on each screen one) instead? I have an intel integrated cad in an EEE 901 laptop
[00:13] <Vamp> hello. How can i reboot my system from putty? shutdown -r now will reboot my system?
[00:14] <maco> trinidad_: 698 of 700 are usually in use with only one architecture being ther
[00:14] <arand> jedc: the shipits are supposed to be for everyone, so you can hand them around to others as well, hence they only do 32bit, I think.
[00:14] <maco> Vamp: yes
[00:14] <maco> Vamp: or "sudo reboot"
[00:14] <mneptok> trinidad_: please look at your /msg window or in #ubuntu-ops
[00:14] <imerso> yes, if you are root
[00:14] <mzz> userone: you'll have to read a few lines around that one
[00:14] <maco> Vamp: note that shutdown requires sudo
[00:14] <Vamp> k, thx
[00:14] <jedc> vamp sudo reboot should do it
[00:15] <milo_> please hw do i dwnld videos from dailymotion? clive isn't doing it
[00:15] <MOUD> where will the downloaded files of apt-get  go?
[00:15] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone here killed pulseaudio and installed ASLA on an intel card?
[00:15] <maco> MOUD: /var/cache/apt/archive/
[00:16] <maco> jeeves_Moss: alsa is installed always :P
[00:16] <userone> mzz: it also says sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0. when ubuntu shuts down it always IDE devices not found. Is that a bug or does that mean it cant find an IDE hard disk to stop?
[00:16] <MOUD> maco: thanks
[00:16] <jeeves_Moss> maco, I'm concerned about the amount of resources Pulse uses, and since this is a netbook, I need ALL the help I can get!  LOL
[00:16] <jedc> arand, thanks for the info
[00:16] <maco> jeeves_Moss: pulseaudio runs on top of alsa. if youd like instructions on how to use jaunty without pulseaudio i have them on my bloghttp://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/04/jaunty-faq.html
[00:17] <mzz> userone: latter, I'm pretty sure.
[00:17] <zigi> th0r: how
[00:17] <zigi> th0r:you helped me before but i forgot
[00:17] <zigi> th0r: i reformatted because of a problem
[00:17] <maco> jeeves_Moss: however, be aware that without pulseaudio its possible youll only be able to have sound out of one app at a time--and pausing rythmbox to watch a video on youtube counts as 2 apps
[00:17] <th0r> zigi: x11vnc -display :0 -passwd <password>
[00:17] <MOUD> what's the command to install build-essential?
[00:18] <maco> MOUD: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:18] <jeeves_Moss> maco, thanks.  as I said, I'm just trying to "lean out" this laptop to get as much as I can out of this 1.5Ghz CPU.  or is there any way to think out Pulse?
[00:18] <tlf> I'm having difficulties watching any sort of media on firefox.3.* on ubuntu 9.04
[00:18] <MOUD> maco: thanks, I knew it but wasn't woking. maybe a terminal problem. :)
[00:18] <maco> jeeves_Moss: personally, i dont think pulse is going to be nearly as resource intensive as firefox
[00:18] <ascheel> tlf, no flash?
[00:18] <jedc> tlf, i think there is a problem with flash right now because after updates its not working for me anymore
[00:18] <tlf> I have flash installed
[00:18] <ascheel> tlf:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:19] <zigi> th0r: did not work
[00:19] <maco> jeeves_Moss: and my 2ghz-but-runs-at-600mhz-all-the-time does fine with pulse on
[00:19] <gogeta> anyone got any clues why my sd card reader is not working on my eeepc
[00:19] <milo_> please hw do i dwnld videos from dailymotion? clive isn't doing it
[00:19] <maco> jeeves_Moss: im actually not sure why my cpu doesnt go above 600mhz ever, but *shrug*
[00:19] <th0r> zigi: all I have is the man page....should work
[00:19] <jeeves_Moss> maco, hummmm.  I guess I'm trying to track down all of the resource hogs.  Something (that I can't seem to track down) is using TONS of RAM as well
[00:19] <MOUD> I'm using Chatzilla irc client, should I stay with it or get another one?
[00:19] <maco> jeeves_Moss: have you looked in top?
[00:20] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[00:20] <userone> mzz: The link i am following says: Next, we need to edit the file "/boot/grub/menu.lst" in the text editor of your choice. You will now want to add an entry for Windows Vista. To do so, you need to add three lines to the file at the end of the file. Example entries follow: [If] Vista is installed to the first partition of the first IDE hard drive [add] root         (hd0,0)  [if] Vista is installed to the first partition of the first SA
[00:20] <zigi> th0r: that is not for setting the password is it?
[00:20] <jeeves_Moss> maco, yes, and nothing really stands out as sucking back ~500Mb of RAM
[00:20] <tlf> jedc, have you found anything to make it work/fix it?
[00:20] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: clicky el linky, please
[00:20] <maco> jeeves_Moss: shared libraries...
[00:20] <mzz> userone: if vista is installed on the same physical drive as ubuntu (just a different partition), use the same number the (working) ubuntu entry uses
[00:21] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, thanks.  I love the graphic
[00:21] <th0r> zigi: x11vnc is often a one time operation, so that should set a password that will be used only for that invocation of x11vnc
[00:21] <maco> jeeves_Moss: are you remembering to subtract the cache from in-use?
[00:21] <mzz> userone: if it's on a different drive use a different number (unless you have many drives just using trial and error suffices)
[00:21] <maco> jeeves_Moss: cache makes the system more responsive, so linux caches aggressively
[00:21] <jeeves_Moss> maco, I've also seen latley that there is a TON of disk access.  I can't seem to track that down either.  it only effects the system after it's been on for a day+
[00:21] <ascheel> <---- hasn't found a reason to use vnc when he has ssh already.
[00:21] <zigi> th0r:but did not work at all
[00:21] <th0r> zigi: if you want to set up a password that lasts you put it in a file and pass that to the program with -passwdfile <filename>
[00:21] <mzz> userone: grub doesn't know or care about the kind of drive it is. What you're reading is making assumptions about the order the bios reports the drives in.
[00:21] <arand> MOUD: so does that apt-get command give any errors for build-essential?
[00:22] <jedc> tlf, not yet but i havent really tried, i was figuring it would get fixed pretty soon
[00:22] <maco> jeeves_Moss: iotop will tell you about disk access, but i can tell you that firefox 3 uses sqlite to store all its data and does a write for every page you open, close, move about...blah blah blah..thats a lot of writes
[00:22] <almostautomated> Hello, is there an alternative to ttysnoop to watch /dev/pts activity?   I'm using Eclipse CDT and the console is FUBAR and I see gdb init is using -tty to /dev/pts/2
[00:22] <mzz> ascheel: yay ssh. Although I've recently started using nx on top of it (not the whole thing, just nxproxy and nxagent)
[00:22] <maco> jeeves_Moss: something lighter like epiphany might be a good idea
[00:22] <zigi> th0r:i have a password file
[00:22] <userone> mzz: no, its all on the same partitioned hard disk. actually, i made a change to the menu.list file before and it corrupted grub. I have literally just finished a fresh install of 64bit 9.04 and i dont want to make the same mistake! (if it is a mistake!)
[00:23] <th0r> zigi: then pass it to the program via the command line
[00:23] <MOUD> arand: no, I just closed the terminal and opened a new one. thanks for the help
[00:23] <jeeves_Moss> maco, I was thinking chrome.
[00:23] <zigi> th0r:how i tried passwdfiel
[00:23] <mzz> userone: define "corrupted grub"
[00:23] <zigi> passwdfile*
[00:23] <maco> jeeves_Moss: chrome is not memory efficient
[00:23] <KB1JWQ> zigi: I'm not sure how chrome works on Linux yet.
[00:23] <mzz> userone: if changes to menu.lst make grub unhappy just boot off a livecd, mount the partition it is on, and edit it back
[00:23] <jeeves_Moss> maco, is there a program that stress tests EVERY part of a system to find out what's going on and if it's going to fail, etc
[00:24] <th0r> x11vnc -passwdfile /home/me/mypassword.file -display :0
[00:24] <maco> jeeves_Moss: it has to allocate a bunch of stuff once per tab instead of once ever
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> chrome was still using wine i thought for linux.. unless i missed the Linxu release party. :)
[00:24] <ascheel> chrome is awful on memory.
[00:24] <maco> jeeves_Moss: not that i know...
[00:24] <N3M35I5> thank you ascheel for your help!!
[00:24] <maco> jeeves_Moss: there's memtest in the boot stuff if you want to check your ram hasnt gone bad, but thats all i know of
[00:24] <majin> Hi... Can someone help me about video playing trouble? :))
[00:25] <jeeves_Moss> maco, yea, I tested the RAM, and ran a CLI CPU tester (I think it's CPUBurn).
[00:25] <ascheel> N3M35I5: you're very welcome, sir.  By the way, please don't PM people without their permission.  :)  The help you got from me for Samba might have been useful to another person already in the channel.
[00:25] <jedc> Dr_Willis, chromium is the open source project based on chrome and it builds on linux
[00:25] <arand> userone: a good idea would also be to keep a backup copy of menu.lst that you can replace when you boot a livecd.
[00:25] <zigi> th0r: i did that and it did not even prompt for password when i try to login
[00:25] <jeeves_Moss> maco, I'm now wondering if it's FF that's causing the problem.  Is there something that'll show what process is chewing so much RAM?  I've tried TOP, but everything there is under 5Mb/RAM each
[00:26] <ctmjr> majin: depends what's the problem?
[00:26] <th0r> zigi: like I said, all I have to go on is the man page...those options should work
[00:26] <mzz> jeeves_Moss: top (or gnome-system-monitor) works, just sort by (resident) ram usage
[00:26] <maco> jeeves_Moss: which column do you look in? i look in the middle column of mem stats
[00:26] <jeeves_Moss> maco, that's where I'm looking.
[00:26] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there any way to view web traffic (coming and going) on my laptop?
[00:26] <userone> mzz: on boot grub wouldnt start, it just went to a command prompt grub>. then i used a live cd to amend the menu.list file back to original and then grub started but the disk was corrupted (manual fdisk check required, or something like that)
[00:27] <mzz> Mike_lifeguard: you might like "iftop", depending on what you mean
[00:27] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: did you actually read that webpage i gave you?
[00:27] <mzz> userone: that's pretty bizarre
[00:27] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, yes, thanks
[00:27] <Mike_lifeguard> mzz: something like a list of urls being requested would be nice
[00:27] <mzz> Mike_lifeguard: iftop won't do that
[00:28] <kaddi> mneptok thanks. :) I did read that link too and it answered some questions I had long be wondering about, but never investigated. Eg the difference in RAM usage, when you look at top and htop :D
[00:28] <userone> mzz: yes, a change to the start-up of vista (right or wrong) should not have affected the start-up of grub controlling ubunut, right?
[00:29] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: so why are you still asking about RAM usage?
[00:29] <mzz> userone: I don't see how anything you mentioned could've required repairs via fdisk
[00:29] <mzz> userone: although actually it *is* possible you somehow caused vista to overwrite the part of grub that's in the mbr
[00:29] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, I'm not.  I'm doing some poking around right now
[00:30] <zigi> No one know how to set the x11vnc password?
[00:30] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: don't touch the power supply. that's why people now call me "Twitchy"
[00:30] <MOUD> If I use sudo apt-get -d install build-essential  (this will only download, won't install it) , and then after it I use  sudo apt-get install build-essential (without the  -d) , will it install but keep the files on the archive folder?
[00:30] <office> vncpasswd
[00:30] <snarkster> anyone know how to configure musictracker on pidgin?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> zigi:  check the man pages..   most vncservers use the vncpasswd command I think.,
[00:31] <jeeves_Moss> mneptok, lol, I'm a cert. electronics tech.  I know ALL about that
[00:31] <maco> MOUD: it keeps them in there anyway
[00:31] <userone> mzz: i installed vista first and didnt touch it again until after i installed 9.04. actually, i hardly ever use windows now but since i was getting a fully licensed version of 64bit vista with my new laptop i thought i would install it.
[00:31] <maco> MOUD: the archive directory isnt cleaned til you run "sudo apt-get clean"
[00:31] <fetusbubble> has anyone ever heard of a problem where random keystrokes repeat themselves over and over? or more recently, the computer freezes up and suddenly opens up a bunch of gnome-search-tools
[00:31] <mzz> shrug, don't know what happened
[00:31] <foundry87> I installed apache2 and php5 so I can have a local server but when I try going to the php files I put in /var/www/ in Firefox it just asks me to download the file instead of executing it.
[00:31] <zigi> Dr_Willis:not x11vnc
[00:31] <fetusbubble> it seems to happen more during high loads
[00:31] <mneptok> jeeves_Moss: i learned the JDFHN[ 9ugwrqA HNSDVFUYYGV BJSDVu hard way
[00:31] <userone> mzz. so does it really make a difference if i use hd0 or sd0? i must have done something else with the live cd..
[00:32] <mzz> fetusbubble: I don't know what'd do that with keystrokes other than hardware issues. I have had ps/2 mice do something like that though (if your mouse is connected via ps/2 consider hooking it up through usb instead if it supports it)
[00:32] <jeeves_Moss> maco, is there a way of tracking down how/why this box starts to do a LOT of disk access after running for ~a day?  it gets to the point where you have to pull the plug on it to get it to reboot
[00:32] <MOUD> nvm, they packages are still on the achive folder :)
[00:32] <DaZ> srsly noone here is using btrfs? >:
[00:32] <foundry87> Nevermind it's working now.
[00:32] <maco> jeeves_Moss: is it swapping like mad?
[00:32] <MOUD> *the packages
[00:32] <Ushaib> Hi. Why would System Monitor show nearly 100% CPU use on the Resources tab, but merely 10% CPU use on the Processes tab? (I sorted by CPU usage, and the top processes add up to a mere 10%).
[00:32] <mzz> userone: "sd0" is not a thing that exists. Grub *really* does not care about what kind of device something is, although it is possible bios settings changes cause it to report drives to grub in a different order (so you'd have to adjust menu.lst to match)
[00:33] <maco> jeeves_Moss: you may have found a memory leak somewhere. er...somewhere other than firefox, which is known for them
[00:33] <jeeves_Moss> maco, yes.  it grinds EVERYTHING to a halt, however, TOP reports that none of the swap is being used
[00:33] <fetusbubble> mzz: my mouse is USB.. sometimes i'd leave my computer on during the night and leave konsole open or something, and when i'd wake up i'd see it spamming a random letter/key into it..
[00:33] <mzz> fetusbubble: I blame hardware, but I can't be specific, sorry.
[00:33] <maco> jeeves_Moss: did you try iotop then?
[00:33] <fetusbubble> okay, thanks for the help
[00:33] <maco> jeeves_Moss: itll tell you what's writing and reading
[00:34] <jeeves_Moss> maco, no, I had to reboot (it woulden't even reboot when I pulled a "sudo halt"
[00:34] <mzz> Ushaib: iirc system monitor defaults to showing just your processes in that tab
[00:35] <MOUD> maco: I see. thanks for the info
[00:35] <mzz> jeeves_Moss: and you're sure swap wasn't touched, not just that no processes were consuming significant amounts of ram?
[00:35] <Ushaib> mzz: thanks, that explains it. When I have it show "All Processes" I see that ntfs3g is eating most of the CPU.
[00:35] <userone> mzz: i do think you are right. i just wanted to be a little more cautious the second time around. anyway, i will have to try something so i will go with the hd0. you are right, it does not make sense for grub to care how the connection is made (which is what IDE and SCSI are) but instead where on the disk the partition starts
[00:35] <ricardo_> oi
[00:35] <jeeves_Moss> mzz, not that I could see under TOP.  as I said, I'll have to wait another day of leaving this box on so I can recreate the issue
[00:35] <maco> jeeves_Moss: "free -m" should give you mem, cache, and swap stats
[00:36] <maco> jeeves_Moss: -m = in megabytes
[00:36] <[James]> is this the support channel?
[00:36] <maco> [James]: yes
[00:36] <jeeves_Moss> maco, ahhhh, ok.  as I said, I rebooted, so it's not doing it yet.
[00:36] <ravil> guys, is there possible to force screen to reload config?
[00:37] <[James]> Ive been trying to install the NVIDIA 1.80 drivers for my 7600GS, but every time I do, I cant boot back into Ubuntu. It shows the loading bar, then goes to a black and never does anything. Ive reinstalled 4 times because of this. Anyone have an idea?
[00:38] <jeeves_Moss> maco, it says I have 676Mb free  that's a little more respectable.  let me try to hammer this CPU for 20 mins and I'll see if I can get it to do it
[00:38] <gartral> [James]: does your gfx card have 2 outputs? (either 2 DVI, or 1 DVI/1 VGA)
[00:38] <[James]> yes 1DVI 1 VGA
[00:39] <skorasaurus> !gpg
[00:39] <jeeves_Moss> maco, also, when I try to run gl_tail (a ruby program), it just boggs down this CPU
[00:40] <etyrnal> what's the syntax to use "find" to search my whole drive for ALL files owned by uid 1000 and change them ALL to being owned by uid 501 ?
[00:40] <IndyGunFreak> [James]: how are you attempting to install the nvidia driver?
[00:40] <[James]> IndyGunFreak: yes
[00:40] <tripzero> so how do I get the new notifyosd to work in 9.04?
[00:40] <IndyGunFreak> [James]: that wasn't a yes or no question, "HOW" are you trying to install it
[00:40] <userone> mzz: ok, i have just looked at several other posts on dual boot and no one else mentions anything about scsi and ide, so i will go with hd0. thanks for your help.
[00:40] <tripzero> i still have the old, ugly notifications
[00:40] <bucky> [James]: did you use sudo nvidia-xconfig  to configure it?
[00:41] <gartral> [James]: after installing the drivers, you need too do a bootup useing the VGA port on the card... I had a heck of a time with this with my 6200
[00:41] <moskvat> noite pra todos
[00:41] <[James]> IndyGunFreak: Through the hardware drivers screen in settings
[00:42] <[James]> gartral: Im not using the DVI
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> DVI connections solve a lot of little issues  ive found.. :)
[00:42] <Shoe> Anyone know a REALLY FAST video converter (specifically .avi to mpg4)
[00:43] <tripzero> Shoe: handbrake?
[00:43] <gartral> [James]: then try the DVI port... i know the 6200s "perfer" the vga, this is probably different with the 7800
[00:43] <mipfi> Can anyone upload the Skeleton File from /etc/init.d/ ?
[00:43] <Shoe> handbrake is really slow
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Shoe:  winff, or avidumux  are gui front ends to the ffmeg and mencoder programs - they can do it.
[00:43] <Shoe> I want something that can convert at at least 1:1
[00:43] <gartral> Shoe: what kind of cpu do you have?
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Shoe:  most are just front ends to those 2 commands.
[00:43] <[James]> gartral: Its a 7600, and the monitor Im using doesnt support DVI. If I use a DVI to VGA adapter, would that work?
[00:43] <tripzero> Shoe: try handbrake, or mencoder on the command line
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Shoe:  theres dozens of opions that can speed thigns up.. at the cost of worse video quality.
[00:44] <Shoe> tripzero, are you blind
[00:44] <skorasaurus> hi, i have a GPG key, I don't know my private key. I know my pass-phrase, and I know my public key.
[00:44] <gartral> [James]: yes. and im sorry about my confusion, im also on the phone >.>
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> !info handbrake
[00:44] <Shoe> I HAVE HANDBRAKE!!!!!
[00:44] <tripzero> Shoe, yes I am blind
[00:44] <ctmjr> Shoe: it will be slow even with a fast system if you want good quality
[00:44] <[James]> gartral: No problem. Im just worried that it will mess up again. Ive already gone though and installed mythtv which took forever.
[00:45] <tripzero> Shoe: man mencoder and stfu
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Looks like Handbrake is not just a front end to mencoder or ffmpeg.. from what im reading..
[00:45] <gartral> [James]: nvidia cards are a pain, and so are ATI..
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> so it may be slower then  mencoder, or ffmpeg
[00:46] <jedc> gartral, nvidia cards work great in ubuntu
[00:46] <[James]> gartral: lol, are there any other brands? : )
[00:46] <tripzero> Dr_Willis: handbrake tries to use multiple cores when it can
[00:46] <gartral> [James]: Intel....
[00:46] <kaddi> intel, but they are even worse right now ;)
[00:46] <tripzero> but you can also tell mencoder/ffmpeg to do the same if you want...
[00:46] <[James]> haha were screwed
[00:47] <MOUD> I agree with kaddi
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> tripzero:    I think i got mencoder set that way also. :)
[00:47] <gartral> jedc: yes, when you have a configuration (monitor side) that they like, there fine peices of equipment
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> tripzero:  seems handbrake is using some parts from ffmpeg.
[00:47] <tripzero> intel works great with the latest drivers
[00:47] <gartral> tripzero: there are some intel cards that dont startup in ubuntu.. period
[00:48] <tripzero> ew
[00:49] <Guest24285> [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 132.19 failed with error code 11:
[00:49] <Guest24285>  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:49] <Guest24285> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Major opcode of failed request:  132 (XVideo)
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Serial number of failed request:  81
[00:49] <FloodBot3> Guest24285: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <Some_Person> I'm servicing someone elses PC. It has Windows XP, which freezes during boot. Obviously, I need to reinstall Windows, but their recovery disc wipes the HD clean. I'm trying to boot the ubuntu live CD, but I'm stuck on a black screen with a mouse cursor
[00:49] <[James]> where can I find more on the sudo nvidia xconfig?
[00:49] <tripzero> lol
[00:49] <gartral> tripzero: i found that the pro serise cards work ok, and the intergrated ones are ok... but intel's gaming serise cards dont like to run under any linux (especially for gameing... which makes 0 sense0
[00:49] <Guest24285> I get an error from vlc when trying to play video files [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 132.19 failed with error code 11:
[00:49] <Guest24285>  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:49] <Guest24285> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Major opcode of failed request:  132 (XVideo)
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[00:49] <FloodBot3> Guest24285: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <Guest24285>   Serial number of failed request:  81
[00:49] <tripzero> lol again
[00:49] <MOUD> [James]: I'm not sure if it'll help but after you install the nvidia driver  go to  System > Administration (not sure) > Nvidia   -> When you click in there and try to apply the settings you'll get a pop-up message telling to do a "certain command on terminal".  I didn't install my Nvidia driver yet so I don't remember exactly the command.  I hope it helps
[00:49] <Some_Person> What can I do?
[00:50] <mzz> Some_Person: does it let you ctrl+alt+f1 out of that black screen?
[00:50] <[James]> MOUD: awesome thanks
[00:50] <Some_Person> mzz: no
[00:50] <kermit> When i change something in preferences, the .gconf xml files get updated, but nothing changes, what'd i break?  I was changing WMs around recently.
[00:50] <gartral> MOUD: how can he when his screen goes black at the login window?
[00:50] <bpun_> is there xinerama-like tty package for plain text?
[00:50] <tripzero> gartral: i had no idea on the gaming cards.  I agree, that does make 0 sense.  the integrated ones have worked very okay for me so far
[00:50] <MOUD> [James]: np
[00:50] <tripzero> after a driver update or 2
[00:50] <mzz> Some_Person: oh, ugh. Does the mouse and caps lock key work?
[00:50] <Guest24285> I get an error message [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 132.19 failed with error code 11:
[00:50] <Guest24285>  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:50] <Guest24285> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[00:50] <Guest24285>   Major opcode of failed request:  132 (XVideo)
[00:50] <Guest24285>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[00:50] <FloodBot3> Guest24285: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <Guest24285>   Serial number of failed request:  81
[00:50] <Some_Person> mzz: mouse works, but not caps lock
[00:50] <mzz> Guest24285: stop doing that
[00:50] <tripzero> some people never learn
[00:51] <gartral> !pastebin | Guest24285
[00:51] <mzz> Some_Person: sounds like something's up with the keyboard then. What kind of keyboard is it? Try simple things like replugging it?
[00:51] <mzz> Some_Person: (does it work in the bios screen?)
[00:51] <MOUD> gartral: he said that he reinstalled 4 times right? So I suppose that he didn't install it yet this time so that's why he's trying to get help before he does a 5th reinstall
[00:51] <Some_Person> mzz: Keyboard works in the BIOS
[00:51] <mzz> Some_Person: usb keyboard?
[00:51] <Some_Person> mzz: It's a 16 year old Packard Bell PS/2 keyboard
[00:51] <myself> is there a play station 2 emulator that i can get in a .deb package or from the repository?
[00:52] <Some_Person> I keep it as a spare
[00:52] <mzz> Some_Person: huh, I can't think of any obvious reasons for that to fail. I don't have the option memorized, but can you get that livecd to boot you to a text-mode login?
[00:52] <Some_Person> The ubuntu boot menu does work. I can probably do that
[00:52] <gartral> Some_Person: ahh.. those PS/2 keybricks never die, do they? i have a 17 year old compaq one i use a "spare" when my wireless one's batts die
[00:52] <mzz> Some_Person: oh, is there more than one keyboard attached?
[00:52] <Some_Person> no
[00:53] <MOUD> [James]: I just remembered that after you type the command (using "  sudo  " first), restart X and then you reboot your system.
[00:53] <mzz> Some_Person: weird then, and there's obviously a chicken/egg issue here that you need the keyboard to work so you can look at Xorg.0.log to see why it can't find your keyboard
[00:54] <gartral> mzz: beautiful analogy there
[00:54] <[James]> MOUD: Okay Im confused now. I dont see a thing for administration
[00:54] <MOUD> [James]: you installed the nvidia driver?
[00:54] <gartral> [James]: System>Administration
[00:55] <[James]> I havnt installed the driver yet, Im on mythbuntu, so maybe they took it out : (
[00:55]  * mzz continues to enjoy the keyboard layout detector on the alternate install cd
[00:55] <MOUD> oh ok
[00:55] <Some_Person> Where is the option to boot to text mode?
[00:55] <gartral> [James]: ohh... you 8should* install the ubuntu-desktop package
[00:56] <MOUD> [James]: use this:    sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[00:56] <[James]> gartral: do I do that through the disk?
[00:56] <[James]> MOUD: Will I need to run a command after that?
[00:56] <gartral> [James]: your... trying too install the nvidia drivers through the live CD??
[00:57] <jungle>  could someone point me to a link for the recommended system requirements for kubuntu?
[00:57] <MOUD> [James]: yes, this command only download and install the necessary files of the Nvidia.  After that is done you do what I told you before.
[00:57] <spO>  what is used to install .dsc files?
[00:57] <[James]> gartral: No, the ubuntu-desktop. Is that done through the disk? Or is it a download package?
[00:57] <MOUD> [James]: the Nvidia option on System > Administration  won't appear until you install the driver.
[00:58] <Ushaib> hi
[00:58] <gartral> [James]: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but it's going to do strange things to your boot splash (mainly just change it to the Ubuntu standard one)
[00:58] <Ushaib> Is there a way I can make Nautilus show the filenames of the files being copied/moved?
[00:58] <[James]> MOUD: Thats why Im worried. I dont even have System-> Administration yet. Its not in the system menu
[00:58] <gartral> MOUD: he's on mythbuntu, and that doesnt have gnome
[00:58] <Ushaib> Not sure who thought it would be a good design idea NOT to have those
[00:59] <[James]> gartral: Ok, if its only changing the boot splash I dont mind. You can change that manually if you want too cant you?
[00:59] <Ushaib> Also, I'm really really annoyed by Nautilus. It's the worst file manager I've ever used. What alternatives are there that behave more like Windows Explorer?
[00:59] <sam^> windows on ya way lad
[00:59] <sam^> :P
[00:59] <gartral> [James]: yes, though the various usplash packages
[00:59] <derenrich> Ushaib: I use dolphin
[01:00] <bpun_> ok
[01:00] <sam^> i liked dolphin its nice :p
[01:00] <skorasaurus> Hi, is there a way i can use my PGP if I only know my passphrase and my public key ?
[01:00] <skorasaurus> i forgot to make a backup of a private key.
[01:00] <bucky> spO dpkg-source -x *.dsc
[01:00] <derenrich> sam^: dolphin blows everything out of the water imo
[01:00] <bpun_> so i have two monitors.. i know xinerama works.. but i stopped gdm, and wish to know if anyone here has done separate bash session on two monitors..
[01:00] <derenrich> skorasaurus: not usefully
[01:00] <bpun_> possible?
[01:00] <bpun_> or impossible?
[01:00] <Ushaib> derenrich, does dolphin minimize other windows when you click during a click-and-drag operation, making click-and-drag impossible?
[01:00] <MOUD> [James], gartral, hmm, that's another story.  [James], if you can wait until my nvidia download is complete I can pass you the exact command for you. But it'll take around 40min to finish my download (10KB/s download :S  )
[01:01] <skorasaurus> derenrich, so, i won't be able to sign anything or really use it ?
[01:01] <derenrich> Ushaib: not sure I know what you mean, try it out? i'm on windows atm
[01:01] <derenrich> skorasaurus: umm, people can encrypt stuff to you? but you won't be able to decrypt it
[01:01] <[James]> MOUD: Thats cool. Im in no hurry. Im installing ubuntu desktop right now
[01:01] <MOUD> [James]: ok then.
[01:02] <derenrich> skorasaurus: other peopel will be able to verify things you already signed with it? not really useful man.
[01:02] <Ushaib> ok thx
[01:02] <hellues> read rolling hash before rabin karp. on wikipedia...
[01:02] <Some_Person> It would probably help if I knew more about this machine. All I know is that it's a Gateway, it was manufactured in 2002, and it has a Pentium 4 processor
[01:02] <skorasaurus> derenrich, should I just not bother then with that key ?
[01:02] <skorasaurus> make a new one ?
[01:02] <derenrich> skorasaurus: i'd nuke it and make a new one. Next time save the revokation ceritifcate and back it up
[01:02] <Some_Person> aha! got ubuntu to boot in "graphics safe mode"
[01:03] <skorasaurus> derenrich, k. thanks.
[01:03] <kaddi> Some_Person stupid question but have you tried debugging windows directly? IE safemode/recover console/last known good configuration=
[01:03] <kaddi> ?
[01:04] <brianguertin> is it possible to have a folder be a file template? So you can choose Create New -> "SomeProject" in Nautilus/Thunar?
[01:05] <bucky> Some_Person: what does lspci |grep VGA   say?
[01:05] <Some_Person> kaddi: Yes. Safemode won't boot
[01:05] <gartral> MOUD: why are you on such a bottleneck?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> brianguertin:  try making a folder in the Template directory? I recall there being such a dir.
[01:06] <rfreiberger> newbie question, what is the difference between Emacs 22 (GTK) and (X11)?
[01:06] <MOUD> gartral: what do you mean by that?
[01:06] <gartral> MOUD: 10 kb/s connection? v90 modems are faster >.>
[01:06] <bucky> rfreiberger: one runs in the desktop the other runs in the console
[01:06] <rfreiberger>  thanks!
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Err that disent make sence.. gtk would use gtk widgits/themes x11 would be the more basic xlib version I thought
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> THen theres proberly a console version
[01:07] <Xerran> Can someone please explain this?: Create a symlink in /usr/bin [Y/n]
[01:07] <mezquitale> anyone knows of a web authoring tool that support xhr(ajax)?
[01:07] <MOUD> gartral: well, a 128Kb/s (16KB/s max) costs $40,00  which is the cheapest non phone modem connection available.
[01:07] <mezquitale> Xerran, click on "Y"
[01:07] <gartral> !symlink | Xerran
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Xerran:   its asking to make a link from /usr/bin/WHATEVER to the actual binary...
[01:08] <bucky> rfreiberger: actually one has gnome widgets the other one doesn't
[01:08] <rfreiberger> I was looking from the add/remove but from apt-get I have a few Emacs
[01:08] <jondavis> any real hacker's in here
[01:08] <Xerran> mezquitale: i am installing an app and it came up
[01:08] <bucky> rfreiberger: emacs21-nox  runs in console
[01:08] <brianguertin> Dr_Willis: I tried, but then it just uses the folder as a submenu in the "Create" menu
[01:08] <jedc> rfreiberger, emacs has a console version and a gui one, but x11 is the window manager,
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> rfreiberger:  forget about the 'add/remove' icon. it only shows a limited set of avail apps.
[01:08] <Xerran> mezquitale: what does it mean?
[01:08] <mezquitale> Xerran, as Dr_Willis mentioned, its asking to make a link from /usr/binWHATEVER to the actual binary
[01:08] <gartral> MOUD: may i pm you?
[01:08] <jondavis> yo any hackers in here
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> brianguertin:  i never use the feature - i even remove all templates.. i never use them. so  guess it cant then.
[01:09] <Xerran> mezquitale: thx
[01:09] <MOUD> gartral: sure,
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> jondavis:  thats a vague and pointless term. :)
[01:09] <jedc> jondavis, lol, still with that?
[01:09] <userone> i just reinstalled 9.04, but when i looked at fdisk -l the 'boot' asterisk is in /dev/sda2 which is the linux swap partition. is this going to cause any problems?
[01:09] <cdecarlo> i <3 hacking
[01:09] <Laice> o/
[01:09] <mezquitale> Xerran,  it means that it will place a link to "/usr/bin" so that the environment knows where the application is actually stored
[01:09] <Some_Person> i also know that this computer is highly out of date -- SP2 isn't installed on XP
[01:09] <Xerran> ahh, ok
[01:09] <jondavis> pm me if u r a real hacker
[01:09] <Laice> does 9.04 come with wine as standard or will i have to install?
[01:09] <jondavis> lets talk
[01:10] <mezquitale> anyone knows of a web authoring tool that supports xhr(ajax)?
[01:10] <jondavis> you will haft to install wine
[01:10] <jondavis> your self
[01:10] <gartral> Laice: install it
[01:10] <jondavis> dont install it
[01:10] <jondavis> it is not good
[01:10] <Laice> kk i've recently switched over from fedora on kde and i was fairly noobish at that so we'll see how much of a fire i can start then, cheers
[01:11] <cdecarlo> mezquitale: what do you mean 'supports'?
[01:11] <jedc> jondavis, http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
[01:11] <jedc> lol
[01:11] <jondavis> i siad dont install wine
[01:11] <Guest17668> Hey guys, I have a small problem. I just updated my kernel, but when I select the newest one (.14) I get a message saying the umber of cylinders exceeds the maximum amount allowed by the BIOS.
[01:11] <jedc> laice, "sudo apt-get install wine" will do it
[01:11] <mzz> could someone with the usual number of kernels installed tell me what "du -sh /boot" gives on their system? I want a ballpark number for my new install's /boot partition
[01:11] <Laice> cheers mate, do explain to me why i shouldnt jon
[01:12] <mzz> userone: grub doesn't really care about that.
[01:12] <jondavis> because i have use wine and it is not good tool
[01:12] <mzz> userone: (assuming grub lives in the mbr)
[01:12] <jondavis> unlees you still like windeos
[01:12] <Laice> well until there's a linux version of ventrilo i'm afraid i'm stuck with it :)
[01:12] <cdecarlo> Laice: what is it that you would want to run, is there an alternative?
[01:12] <jedc> mzz, i dont know the usual number, but it gives "51M       /boot" for me
[01:13] <nohup> good evening, all
[01:13] <mzz> jedc: strange, I could've sworn it was larger
[01:13] <jondavis> \if you need anything .get openoffice
[01:13] <jedc> mzz looks like i have about 24 of em
[01:13] <jedc> maybe just 4
[01:14] <mzz> jedc: just 4 seems more likely. Looks like a pair of initrd+vmlinuz is about 10M here
[01:14] <kaddi> Some_Person When you hit F8 to boot into safe mode, hit it twice, you should see additional options. One will be "last known good configuration", which will try to boot into n older version of windows. But if you want help with windows, I suppose we better take this some place else. ;) Did you see bucky's question:what does lspci |grep VGA   say?
[01:14] <jedc> Laice, wine is good for games
[01:14] <userone> mzz: i altered menu.list to include hd0,0 but vista wouldn't boot. i changed the entry to hd0, 1, and still no fun. i have followed the howtos. any other ideas? when i do fdisk -l it says sda1 is ntfs (vista) so the boot order should be hd0,0 for that right?
[01:14] <kaddi> (in case you want to get ubuntu to run)
[01:14] <mzz> jedc: hmm, I guess 100M for /boot/ really should suffice then. Thanks!
[01:14] <jondavis> I like to talk to a real hacker
[01:14] <nohup> i remember awhile ago ubuntu 9.04 on the aspire one (acer) had quite a few problems with sluggish compiz..... i guess there have been updates since... so i was wondering: would it be 'safe' to upgrade to it now?
[01:15] <mzz> (annoying part of an lvm setup, you can conveniently resize everything except for /boot afterwards)
[01:15] <cdecarlo> jondavis: what's your definition of hacker?
[01:15] <mzz> userone: might want to mark that one as (the only) bootable partition
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  i used the UNR release on my AAO. and foloowed a few tweaks in the UNR/AAO forum/thread  and its working great.
[01:15] <mzz> userone: with grub in the mbr neither grub nor linux cares, but vista might.
[01:15] <legend2440> mezquitale: http://www.aptana.com/studio
[01:15] <jondavis> hack the would
[01:15] <Laice> odd installed ventrilo using the program loader and as far as i can tell the installtion only generated .wav's and images, no executables
[01:16] <Laice> not appearing in the wine app's list either
[01:16] <mzz> userone: if sda1 is vista (hd0,0) is almost certainly what you should chainload in grub
[01:16] <kaddi> nohup if sluggish compiz was related to the fact that acer mostly uses intel cards I would advise against it.
[01:16] <cdecarlo> hack the would, is that meme or something?
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  there still might be an issue with it not seeing both SD slots unless  ya got a card  in each  slot at bootup. but i rarely use those.
[01:16] <nohup> Dr_Willis: i hope this doesn't sound all to stupid, but i've never heard of UNR :)
[01:16] <jondavis> a hacker is a some-one who does all things hacking
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  and I do recall upgrading the intel video.
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  Ubuntu Netboot REmix -  a usb variant  with tweaks for the netbooks.
[01:16] <nohup> Dr_Willis: i don't care about the sd cards.. never used them :)
[01:16] <jedc> Laice, wine installs things in your .wine/drive_c/Program Files directory
[01:16] <userone> mzz: so any ideas how i may be able to resolve this?
[01:17] <Laice> aye just been browsing the folder and no jot
[01:17] <Laice> joy*
[01:17] <cdecarlo> jondavis: that's like saying a tree is something that displays the characteristics of a tree
[01:17] <mzz> nohup: if the sluggishness was intel video you might want to wait for 9.10
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  Im not sure if i upgraded the intel video or not.. wasent too hard to do. - i had to do it on my other laptop  to get compiz working.
[01:17] <nohup> yeah, i read about that, Dr_Willis.. but i already have a fully installed system.. just checking if it would be advisable to  update to 9.04
[01:17] <mzz> userone: how's it failing exactly?
[01:17] <confused> Does anyone know why when I try to boot to the newest kernel, I get an error message saying it can't boot because the maximum number of cylinders allowed by the BIOS has been reached
[01:17] <nohup> mzz: ahhh.. i might do that then..
[01:17] <jondavis> ok what do you know about real hacking
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  try it and see i guess..  Or just go get the UNR img file, and dd it to a flash drive and test drive it.
[01:17] <jondavis> it is not all about programing
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  thats whats unique about UNR. its an 'img' file you just 'dd' to a flash drive.. and  boot it. :)
[01:18] <mzz> confused: that's normally a grub message, not a kernel one. Make sure your hd is configured to use lba in the bios
[01:18] <jedc> jondavis, none of have any idea what you are talking about, we most likely have a different idea of the meaning of the word than you do
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  i hate the special UNR 'interface' i alwyas enable the normal gnome desktop
[01:18] <nohup> i don't have a flash drive in it though :)
[01:18] <confused> I'm kind of a noob, how would I do that
[01:18] <userone> mzz: i simply cant get vista to boot. it says missing mbr, but grub is the bootloader so why is vista asking for the mbr?
[01:18] <googeek> Need help with weird wireless problem. Anyone?
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  seen 2gb on sale for $5 over the weekend. :P
[01:18] <nohup> i have the aao with 160G hdd...
[01:19] <mzz> userone: marking sda1 as bootable *might* help
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  so do I :)
[01:19] <nohup> 5 bucks... that's nothing..
[01:19] <userone> mzz: can i do that without reinstalling?
[01:19] <mzz> userone: sure
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  yep. I got a few altoids tins packed with spare flash drives. :)
[01:19] <nohup> hahah :)
[01:19] <mzz> userone: I'd use fdisk but I'm masochistic. gparted can probably do it too.
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> nohup:  works good as a rescue tool also. got ones for several different disrtos/repair/recovery disrtos.
[01:20] <nohup> i've always used knoppix as recovery...
[01:20] <userone> mzz: i am not masochistic but i dont trust gparted! if you know the commands to use i am happy to follow along
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> In the time it takes gparted to load up.. i can have most tasks done in fdisk. :)
[01:20] <mzz> Dr_Willis: if you have a couple of systems with card readers they seem to end up replacing floppy drives, if you know what I mean
[01:20] <nohup> anyways, eventually i'd have to upgrade the system on hdd to the new distro...
[01:21] <googeek> Need help, Wireless works until I reboot, and than stops working, anyone have any ideas?
[01:21] <sjlkg> hi, in all files in a directory i want to add a 'print 'emitted %signal'' line with correct intendation after each line that has 'emit('%signal'' in it, where %signal is some string (words connected with dashes). anyone know how i could achieve that?
[01:21] <userone> mzz: or if you are busy a link to a howto will do
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> sjlkg:  some fancy awk scripting, or sed.. or both.. would be one way.
[01:21] <mzz> userone: it's the "a" command in fdisk. Should be fairly obvious if you can stand the cli interface.
[01:21] <confused> How would I configure my hd to use lba in the BIOS? Is it in the BIOS menu itself, or is there a setting in the OS to change
[01:21] <scott1> ok I just installed ubuntu so far I do like the speed and interface.. I installed the 64bit os when I go to install adobe flash it says error 1386? need help
[01:21] <userone> mzz: ok, let me look
[01:22] <mzz> confused: you'd have to poke around a bit in the bios menu, it's not in the same place in all of them.
[01:22] <fnord23> Hi
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> confused:  i also recall a lba 'flag' the partioning tools can enable.
[01:22] <scott1> newbie here sorry
[01:22] <TalkSoup> hello, i have a problem with wifi
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> scott1:  how are you trying to install flash?
[01:22] <mzz> Dr_Willis: are you sure? the only flag like that I know of is that there are different partition types for fat32 partitions, but that doesn't apply to linux (0x83) partitions
[01:23] <alexanderazimov> ello all.
[01:23] <oizo> hi2u
[01:23] <scott1> how can I get flash installed on fire fox it wont work... is it because I have ubuntu 64 bit?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> mzz:  theres an lba flag somewhere i had to enable it on a flakey flash drive onece to ge tit to boot on a flakey pc.
[01:23] <fnord23> fun
[01:23] <confused> Alright, so I'm gonna check my BIOS menu, then I'll be back if I can't figure it out.
[01:23] <derenrich> scott1: probably
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> scott1:  flash and 64bit works for me here. I normally install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package - that grabs flash and java and some other stuff.
[01:23] <derenrich> scott1: adobe only has a beta out for 64 bit linux
[01:23] <googeek> Need help, Wireless works until I reboot, and than stops working, anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <scott1> Dr_Willis I downloaded it and try to install it  using the default opener
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> scott1:  but that may be grabbing the 32bit flash and installing some compat. libs.
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> scott1:  dont install it that way.. try the ubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[01:24] <userone> mzz: sudo fdisk /dev/hda is saying Unable to open /dev/hda
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> scott1:  you are thinking  in 'windows terms' :)
[01:24] <mzz> userone: sda, not hda
[01:24] <nohup> thanks for your help, Dr_Willis and mzz!
[01:24] <userone> mzz: oops..yes
[01:24] <cdecarlo> googeek: that's a bit of a funny statement, is sounds like your wireless stops working when you turn your computer off ;)
[01:25] <nohup> i'llbe afk... gotto go shopping for food and beer :)
[01:25] <NickUK`> Hi, can anyone help me setting up an ADHoc network under Ubuntu.
[01:25] <scott1> Error: Wrong architecture 'i386' is what I get when trying to install
[01:25] <mzz> googeek: what are you doing to turn it back on? Powering down completely?
[01:25] <scott1> yes I am new to this thats why Im here
[01:25] <googeek> I've tried it all
[01:25] <scott1> Im sick of windows..
[01:25] <googeek> power down, restart
[01:25] <tomh-> hey, what can i do when flash has no sound? :/
[01:26] <Laice> i'm seriously pissed off with windows today
[01:26] <TalkSoup> NickUK: dont, you can easily hose your system doing that
[01:26] <alexanderazimov> Scott i feel your pain.
[01:26] <Laice> build a goddamn awesome machine
[01:26] <mzz> googeek: I don't follow. "wireless works until I reboot" means it worked exactly once since you installed?
[01:26] <NickUK`> TalkSoup - What do you mean
[01:26] <Laice> 3 vista installs, crashes after being on the desktop for a minute without fail
[01:26] <googeek> cdcarlo: haha, yeah.
[01:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Laice: Yeh, its Windows, thats normal :P
[01:26] <Laice> so i nuked the vista install and installed feisty and i feel much better now :P
[01:26] <scott1> Im sure I will get this sooner than later I hope ...
[01:26] <mzz> Laice: why feisty?
[01:27] <gggg> what is orca ?
[01:27] <NickUK`> Can anyone help me setup an AdHoc on ubuntu, i have one running but isnt sending any Bytes, really do need help with this.
[01:27] <oizo> Ysofeisty xD
[01:27] <Laice> sorry didnt mean feisty getting my wires crossed lol
[01:27] <mzz> gggg: a screen reader, iirc
[01:27] <Laice> so many damn distributions
[01:27] <googeek> mzz: yeah, it worked right out of the box, detected my router, I connected and then ran ppporconf to connect to my pppoe, the internet works, than if I reboot, in anyway, my router stops working
[01:27] <googeek> mzz: but it always runs fine off cd, thats what I'm on now
[01:27] <gggg> mzz, what is screen reader ?
[01:27] <Laice> you know what i mean :'(
[01:27] <NoMS_> scott1:  I found a script that installed everything and I have no problems running flash....  I am not able to find it at the moment.  I'll see if I have it saved somewhere on my computer.  If so, I'll let ya know
[01:28] <userone> mzz: ok, managed to do that but it says the new table will be used at next reboot. so, i will no doubt be back if it still doesnt work. thanks again
[01:28] <mzz> gggg: reads text on the screen out to you over the speakers, useful for blind people or people with seriously impaired eyesight
[01:28] <Laice> jaunty thats the badger
[01:28] <mzz> gggg: that's assuming I recalled correctly, it might be something else instead.
[01:28] <LioN> someone can help me with jaunty issue on audio with games
[01:28] <Laice> night all
[01:28] <Laice> o/
[01:28] <oizo> night
[01:29] <mzz> googeek: weird. What part of it fails, the wireless connection to the router or the pppoe after that?
[01:29] <NickUK`> Can anyone help me setup an AdHoc on ubuntu, i have one running but isnt sending any Bytes, really do need help with this.
[01:29] <gggg> mzz, thank you , then it is a good tool for those who have problem with eye sight
[01:29] <googeek> mzz: well, both, haha. But, its the router thats the problem
[01:30] <LioN> someone can help me with jaunty issue with audio delay on some games
[01:30] <googeek> mzz: where it once said "wireless network" it says "device not managed"
[01:32] <shadowh511> hey all, im having some trouble with my atheros wifi card
[01:32] <legend2440> LioN: is the delay in game runnibg in Wine?
[01:32] <LioN> no man
[01:32] <gartral> shadowh511: did you install the restricted driver/
[01:33] <LioN> the issue is with the native games
[01:33] <ravil> ext4 supports resizing without data loss?
[01:33] <mzz> ravil: yes, using resize2fs (or (g)parted)
[01:33] <shadowh511> gartral: no, im on karmic.  it says wireless is disabled, and there's no way to reenable it. I've tried everything I can think of including wiping my gconf
[01:34] <MOUD> how do I restart X, it doesn't seem to work here
[01:34] <shadowh511> MOUD: in a terminal, type in killall man
[01:34] <mzz> googeek: I'm not familiar with pppoeconf but are you sure running that was required?
[01:34] <gartral> shadowh511: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <ravil> mzz: thank you
[01:34] <NauTiluS1> how to optimize ext4
[01:34] <NickUK`> Can anyone help me setup an AdHoc on ubuntu, i have one running but isnt sending any Bytes, really do need help with this.
[01:35] <MOUD> shadowh511: There's a way using the Backspace if i'm not wrong
[01:35] <googeek> mzz: If you know of any other way to connect to a pppoe, I guess not. That's just what I found looking online...
[01:35] <confused> Alright, so I couldn't find anything related to setting up my hd to use lba, but the exact error message I try to boot is Error 18: Selected cylinder exceed maximum supported by BIOS
[01:35] <shadowh511> MOUD: you are thinking of control-alt-backspace, but that was disabled (*sigh*) log out and back in
[01:36] <MOUD> oh, that's why it doesnt work. thanks
[01:36] <MOUD> brb people
[01:37] <looter> HELP!  I have a dual boot configuration with Ubuntu and Vista and after updating ubuntu today I get a "Error 25: Disk Read Error" from grub when trying to access Vista.  I can still boot into Ubuntu and even mount the drive but I need to be able to get back into Vista.  Can someone please try to help me.
[01:37] <bastidrazor> !dontzap | shadowh511 MOUD
[01:37] <kermit> When i change something in preferences, the .gconf xml files get updated, but nothing changes, what'd i break?  I was changing WMs around recently, maybe gnome isnt running?  I'm running compiz.
[01:37] <MOUD> thanks bastidrazor
[01:37] <xBeginner>  hi, could anyone give me an example of using the "grep" function to search a string in multiple files?
[01:37] <xBeginner> I've tried 'grep "<html>" *' but it doesn't works
[01:37] <grumbles> Can someone help me, rythymbox wont open
[01:37] <macondo> What's up with ubuntu that I cannot press control-alt-backspace to restart X?
[01:37] <LioN> someone can help me with jaunty issue with audio delay on some games
[01:37] <kermit> xBeginner: grep string file1 file2 file3
[01:38] <bastidrazor> MOUD, using alt sysrq k works the same.
[01:38] <kermit> xBeginner: grep "<html>" *   works
[01:38] <grumbles> Can someone help me, rythymbox wont open, and there are no errors in the console
[01:38] <shadowh511> gartral: how do I install the restricted driver?
[01:38] <xBeginner> kermit: well i'm trying grep "<html>" * but nothing shows up
[01:38] <kermit> xBeginner: then it didnt find anything
[01:39] <userone> mzz: back again. still nothing. the bootable flag is on sda1, and menu.lst has been changed to hd0,0. now vista says bootmgr is missing. again, i dont understand why vista is looking for a bootmgr if grub is handling the boot
[01:39] <googeek> mzz: Do you think the pppoeconf is causing it to loose data or something some how?
[01:39] <mzz> googeek: I really don't know, sorry.
[01:39] <grumbles> Can someone help me, rythymbox wont open, and there are no errors in the console
[01:40] <xBeginner> kermit: impossible, I'm sure its there (maybe at a sub directory, but adding the -r arg doesn't helps)
[01:40] <mzz> googeek: I've triggered networkmanager not managing a device myself by configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces, iirc
[01:40] <googeek> mzz:'s cool, thanks for trying
[01:40] <mzz> googeek: can you check if there's anything fishy in there?
[01:40] <kermit> xBeginner: you're mistaken
[01:40] <confused> mzz: I couldn't find anything to set my hd to use lda, but my error message on startup is Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[01:40] <kermit> xBeginner: that's the right syntax
[01:40] <macondo> How do I restart X?
[01:40] <xBeginner> kermit: yea, thx, i forgot the -r
[01:40] <googeek> mzz" how would I do that?
[01:41] <mzz> confused: is this an oldish system?
[01:41] <ambient_> quit
[01:41] <mzz> googeek: pastebin the file?
[01:41] <ravil> befere using resize2fs, I have to resize the partition?
[01:41] <mzz> ravil: correct
[01:41] <mzz> ravil: err, no wait
[01:41] <mzz> ravil: are you growing or shrinking?
[01:41] <confused> A Dell D600 laptop with a Centrino chipset, 1.4 GHz CPU, 256 MB RAM, 40 GB hdd
[01:42] <googeek> mzz: I'm apparently way more of a noob than you realize, haha
[01:42] <mzz> !pastebin | googeek
[01:42] <ravil> mzz: growing
[01:42] <googeek> ubottu: thnx!
[01:42] <mzz> ravil: then grow the partition first, then use resize2fs to make the filesystem use the whole partition again. Although iirc gparted can do both.
[01:42] <ravil> I don't trust gparted, maybe I'm wrong?)
[01:43] <mzz> ravil: I haven't used gparted much myself. I usually use lvm, and use its commandline utilities plus some commandline tool to resize whatever filesystem I'm using.
[01:43] <ravil> mzz: ok. thanks a lot
[01:44]  * mzz is a fan of lvm, wishes the regular ubuntu install cd supported it
[01:44] <www> hi my friends
[01:44] <grumbles> Can someone help me, rythymbox wont open, and there are no errors in the console
[01:44] <www> i want to insatall xchat on mandriva linux
[01:44] <zetheroo1> Great! I am getting kernel panics again!
[01:44] <mzz> www: mischan
[01:44] <www> ahh
[01:44] <ravil> grumbles: try to run it with strace
[01:45] <tomh-> anyone know how to get flash sound working?
[01:45] <confused> mzz: It's a Dell D600 from 2004
[01:45] <zetheroo1> is there any really straightforward way to find out what is causeing a kernel panic? -- please don't mention the logs as they are useless for this ..
[01:45] <ablyss> grumbles, open terminal and type killall -9 rhythmbox
[01:45] <grumbles> thanks ablyss, it worked
[01:46] <mzz> confused: ah, sorry, lost track for a minute. I can't really help with that message if you can't get the bios to cooperate, I'm afraid.
[01:46] <ablyss> grumbles, you prolly have a zombie
[01:46] <ablyss> nasty lil buggers
[01:46] <www> is posible to install a bot on my ubuntu?
[01:46] <userone> if i fix the bootmgr problem using vista, will it overwrite grub?
[01:46] <mzz> confused: what I think is going on is this: grub uses bios calls to load itself, the kernel and the initrd, after which the kernel boots and accesses the drive directly from then on. You need a reasonable recent bios for grub to access the entire drive that way
[01:47] <NickUK`> Can anyone help me setup an AdHoc on ubuntu, i have one running but isnt sending any Bytes, really do need help with this.
[01:47] <ablyss> www you already have a bot on ubuntu, its called crontab
[01:47] <mzz> confused: what sometimes happens if you don't have a separate /boot is that initially the kernel, initrd and grub are near the start of your partition, but as the partition fills up newer kernels end up more to the "right", where grub can't get at them through the bios
[01:47] <confused> mzz: Hmmm, it only started doing this after I updated today. I haven't been on this particular computer
[01:47] <confused> for a few days.
[01:47] <www> ablyss ahh, but that one is not so frenly to use rigth?
[01:47] <mzz> confused: if you know about this problem (bios not supporting lba) in advance you can work around it by putting grub and your kernels on a separate /boot partition near the start of the drive
[01:48] <mzz> confused: repartitioning to do that now may be pretty hard though
[01:48] <ablyss> www, man crontab... my bot ( crontab ) turns on and off lights when I tell it too
[01:48] <googeek> mzz: so...you want me to copy that file and send it to you?
[01:48] <hypoon> hey guys
[01:48] <ablyss> too/to
[01:48] <hypoon> I'm in a panic situation
[01:48] <confused> Yeah, my hard drive is almost full, I dual boot Windows XP Professional and Ubuntu 9.04
[01:48] <www> ablyss: ok
[01:49] <mzz> confused: and on my own system I once had a bios that wouldn't cooperate until I reset its settings and reconfigured it from there (probably because I flashed it at some point and didn't reset afterwards)
[01:49] <hypoon> I accidently moved a lot of my home directory into another folder, but I don't know how to safely re-mix the two folders into my home director
[01:49] <hypoon> *directoy
[01:49] <mzz> googeek: just do what ubottu said (pastebinit) and give me the url
[01:49] <hypoon> **directory!!
[01:49] <ablyss> www, if you want a some-what user friendly interface for crontab, check out kcron
[01:49] <googeek> mzz: k, I'll have to sign off...bbl
[01:50] <mzz> googeek: err, hang on
[01:50] <www> ablyss aahh ok i take a loot thanks dude
[01:50] <mzz> googeek: do you mean you have to do that because you're currently on the livecd?
[01:50] <mzz> googeek: you can just mount your install and pastebin the file
[01:50] <confused> mzz: Is there any way I can delete older kernels to make room for it to access the newest one
[01:50] <ablyss> www, but the syntax is pretty basic and using a plain text editor would work
[01:50] <mzz> confused: that's not going to work reliably
[01:50] <hypoon> please someone, tell me how I can put all my files back in my home directory safely...?
[01:50] <confused> Damn
[01:50] <mzz> ablyss: if you edit it through the "crontab" utility it'll syntax check it before installing the new file
[01:50] <Monay93> hello everyone
[01:50] <googeek> mzz: yeppers
[01:50] <googeek> mzz: k, how would I go about that?
[01:51] <www> ablyss i will try it, thanks
[01:51] <confused> So I'm stuck until 9.10 comes out, I guess?
[01:51] <mzz> googeek: I'd expect the partition to show up in your "places" menu. If it does not you can just use "sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt" to mount it
[01:51] <mzz> googeek: err, hang on
[01:51] <zuz_> anyone know how to get opera (shared) for kubuntu?
[01:51] <mzz> googeek: I'm not familiar with the livecd environment. Check if /mnt/ is empty before you do that.
[01:51] <hsa2> hello everybody
[01:51] <jexd1> is there a way to make a zune run thru ubuntu? i'm so sick of vista but i have to dual boot it for my zune, then switch to it everytime i want to sync, and play my music in rhythmbox thru my mounted vista partition. so, has anyone hacked the zune to make it compatible, or can i run the zune software thru wine or something?
[01:52] <scheibo> bye
[01:52] <Monay93> do  anyone knop wat you do on this chat thingy
[01:52] <hsa2> i've just installed ubuntu and updated
[01:52] <ablyss> mzz, what crontab utility do you use?
[01:52] <mzz> confused: 9.10 won't help, I'm pretty sure. I'd attempt to create a /boot near the start of the drive.
[01:52] <Monay93> hello everyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[01:52] <hsa2> my xf86audiolowervolume and xf86audioraisevolume don't control the true mixer
[01:52] <hsa2> how can i change it?
[01:53] <BluDog_Anchorite> how do i update a package via dpkg ?  say i downloaded the deb, but now there is a newer deb.  so i download that.
[01:53] <BluDog_Anchorite> in redhat it was rpm -Uvh
[01:54] <mzz> BluDog_Anchorite: I wouldn't be surprised if "dpkg -i" did the right thing, but I'm too new to ubuntu to be sure.
[01:54] <bucky> BluDog_Anchorite: use synaptic in the System=>Administration menus or use sudo apt-get install
[01:54] <hsa2> any idea about my issue?
[01:54] <mzz> bucky: apt-get install takes .debs that aren't in a repository?
[01:54] <bucky> dpkg is not internet enabled
[01:55] <BluDog_Anchorite> bucky, this is a headless server w/o x
[01:55] <googeek> mzz:http://paste.ubuntu.com/252237/plain/
[01:55] <BluDog_Anchorite> bucky: also, i already have both deb's on the server.  i just want to upgrade to the new version
[01:56] <hsa2> gotit
[01:56] <bucky> BluDog_Anchorite: dpkg -i *  will install a package in your working directory.. if their is an newer version in the repos then apt-get upgrade will try to install the newer version
[01:57] <bucky> BluDog_Anchorite: sudo dpkg -i <package_name>
[01:57] <mistere357> hey bucky, if you have the debs then i just do sudo dpkg -i ...
[01:57] <mzz> googeek: do you know how those two wlan0 lines ended up in there? If you don't try commenting them out and running "/etc/init.d/networking restart" (I *think*, might want to reboot instead)
[01:57] <mistere357> yea, what BluDog said
[01:57] <BluDog_Anchorite> bucky: that isn't going to leave me w/ ver.1.4.2 and 1.4.8 BOTH installed is it ?
[01:57] <bucky> yum local-install
[01:58] <userone> when i enter find /bash/grub/stage1 in a grub shell, it returns Error 15: File not found. anyone know what this error is?
[01:58] <looter> I'm having issues with a dual boot, getting error 25: disk read  error from grub.  Vista and Ubuntu  can someone please help?
[01:58] <mzz> rats, no X. And this install was going so well so far :( oh well, debug time
[01:58] <mzz> userone: err, I'm pretty sure you meant /boot/grub/stage1, not /bash/grub/stage1
[01:59] <googeek> mzz: comment out? and how do I run that, just open it or something?
[01:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> bucky: thanks for the help though
[01:59] <googeek> mzz: oh, and now, I have no idea how anything ended up anywhere, I didn't even know that file was there, lol
[01:59] <mzz> googeek: oh wait, you're still on the livecd. Did you mount your root partition through places or through my command from earlier?
[01:59] <bucky> BluDog_Anchorite: no.. the older version will be removed first  dpkg -i --no-act <package>ver1.4.8.deb  to see what it will do man dpkg
[01:59] <mistere357> I have a Hardy server with OpenSSH 4.7 and I need to set up chroot for the sftp (not ssh) users.  Can anybody point me to some good resources?
[02:00] <googeek> mzz: places
[02:00] <mzz> googeek: then just edit the file (I'd use "sudo nano /media/whatever/etc/network/interfaces", but running gedit through gksudo should work too)
[02:00] <mzz> googeek: put a "#" in front of those last two lines and try rebooting into your actual install
[02:01] <mzz> googeek: that should get networkmanager to manage your wireless interface again, although I have no idea if the pppoe bits will work
[02:01] <zetheroo1> how do I check the version of the madwifi driver running in my system?
[02:01] <doug_> is it possible to get internet explorer on Ubuntu?  My mom has to fill out an application onlien that requires IE
[02:01] <file_file> how can i check what java platform is being used ?
[02:01] <ravil> pls advice - which filesystem is better to use for media storage? safety on the first place. I can't choose between ext4, reiserfs3 and XFS :(
[02:01] <userone> mzz: oops..yes...it says hd0,2. i already tried hd0,1 for vista but that didnt work
[02:02] <mzz> ravil: they're all fine, but I'd pick ext4 for no particularly objective reason
[02:02] <googeek> mzz: Cool! thanks! I'll try it and be right back.
[02:02] <spO> when did ubuntu 9.04 come out and replace ubuntu 9.03?
[02:02] <mzz> userone: what was vista on again, sda1?
[02:02] <file_file> what's the difference between openjdk and sun-java-jdk ?
[02:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> doug_: Wine might work. But I had to install XP in a VM for just one site.
[02:02] <mzz> spO: there was a 9.03?
[02:03] <looter> 9.04 fucked up my dual boot
[02:03] <file_file> spO: ubuntu 9.04 replaces ubuntu 8.10
[02:03] <dopper> I installed grub2, uninstalled it and reinstalled it and somehow the entry for chainloading from menu.lst went missing. Is there a way to make grub2 add it to menu.lst again?
[02:03] <jcapinc> LOL! there is no 9.03!
[02:03] <file_file> what's the difference between openjdk and sun-java-jdk ?
[02:03] <userone> mzz: yes, sda1 and changed the bootable flag to sda1. that would make the command root hd0,0 but that doesnt work
[02:03] <jcapinc> mzz ravil I am using ext4 on my laptop, it works just fine, no complaints
[02:03] <vince> Can someone please explain to my whey my Internet connection is like dialup ever since I updated to Jaunty?
[02:04] <CoJaBo-Aztec> vince: Firefox?
[02:04] <MadGirl> Firefox is probably now finnish thank you
[02:04] <mzz> userone: exactly, I wouldn't bother booting anything other than (hd0,0) through grub, assuming ubuntu is also on sda and (hd0,X) in grub boots that successfully
[02:04] <ablyss> vince dns probably mucked up
[02:04] <vince> CoJaBo-Aztec : Everything
[02:04] <doug_> how do i tell if im using hardy or jaunty
[02:04] <googeek> mzz: one last question
[02:04] <mzz> ravil: I'm assuming "media files" means at least several MB per file on average, and they should all cope with that just fine
[02:05] <mzz> doug_: try "lsb_release -a"
[02:05] <googeek> mzz: just one # or one infront of each line
[02:05] <mzz> googeek: one in front of each line
[02:05] <vince> ablyss : How to fix it?  I never had this problum with 8.10
[02:05] <mzz> googeek: ("#" comments out a line, not an entire entry)
[02:05] <vince> ablyss : Though i doubt its DNS, Its slow even going to my local router
[02:05] <DexterF> hi
[02:05] <googeek> mzz: k, thx!
[02:05] <doug_> mzz: thanks
[02:05] <DexterF> which kernel does the 9.04 lice cd have?
[02:06] <jcapinc> the lice kernal?
[02:06] <ravil> mzz: what about possible data loss in case of unexpected powerdown?
[02:07] <userone> mzz: so it seems i will have to use the vista install dvd to fix the bootmgr, which will delete grub from the mbr, and then a live cd to replace grub to hd0,2. using the live cd messed up my system the last time, perhaps i didnt mount/umount properly.
[02:07] <jcapinc> ravil, that is the only bug I heard about with ext4 (though its not really a bug) but I have never experianced that
[02:07] <ablyss> vince, dns issues might be anywhere between your isp and the many many nodes your packets travel.  you can change dns by simply adding another primary dns to your /etc/resolv.conf file.
[02:07] <jdoggy> hi, if anybody has encrypted their hard drive via the alternate installer I would really like to take a look at your menu.lst, I nuked mine on accident and I'm trying to restore grub.
[02:08] <mzz> ravil: in my (admittedly quite limited) experience in that area both ext4 and reiserfs won't completely blow up. I have no experience with xfs.
[02:08] <ravil> mzz: thanks. I'll think. =)
[02:09] <mzz> jdoggy: everything I encrypted is my home dir. That's probably not what you're after.
[02:09] <ablyss> vince, since your router is the dhcp/dns router you would only change the dns in the router, not your on your computer
[02:09] <alexanderazimov> wow....bad name.
[02:09] <ablyss> er, hope that made sense
[02:10] <vince> ablyss : Would it still be DNS if I get the same behavior using straight IP's?
[02:10] <ablyss> vince, no sir
[02:11] <ablyss> vince since using IP address is skipping dns lookups
[02:11] <userone> how do i use sudo on the live cd? does it ask me to enter a password on startup?
[02:11] <vince> ablyss : Then its not DNS sir.  Agian this has only been an issue since I switched to 9.04 from 8.10.
[02:11] <vince> I think it has to do with the whole IPv6 thing
[02:12] <ablyss> vince hmm, did you change your hostname to something wacky?
[02:12] <vince> But Unlike 8.10 there dosen't seem to be an easy work around for 9.04 short of compiling a new kernel and i'm just not that good.
[02:12] <ablyss> vince a invalid hostname will do havoc to your internet and system
[02:13] <gartral> vince: IIRC theres a way to set your system to perfer IPv4 over IPv6
[02:13] <jdoggy> mzz: my homedir is apparently encrypted further with ecryptfs..which is why I need to get it to boot :/
[02:14] <bucky> vince: type hostname   what does it say?
[02:14] <jdoggy> mzz: I didn't write the "recovery password" down for it, which is different than my user password, as I understand it, but was tied to it
[02:14] <grendal_prime> Hey i dont get it im trying to copy my ssh-key up to another box with ssh-copy-id.  but it keeps saying "error: no identities found"?  I created ssh creds with ssh-keygen what gives?
[02:15] <eross> sudo apt-get remove wine, it did it. I sudo apt-get install wine and I keep getting wine version 1.1.22 instead of 1.1.27 as shows in repos
[02:15] <eross> I may have installed wine alternatively, I forgot how I did it maybe getdeb..
[02:15] <bucky> eross: did you apt-get update to update your repos database?
[02:15] <eross> yes several times
[02:15] <dli> I'm trying to boot livecd from usb-stick, but end up being in initramfs
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> eross:   using the winehq repos? I got 1.1.27 here.
[02:16] <shipitkthx> hi, im using ubuntu server on a VPS I have connecting through SSH, i have several files which use foreign characters in the file names, what package could I install to have it use the actual characters instead of me seeing �?
[02:16] <bucky> eross: and apt-cache show wine says version 1.1.27  ?
[02:16] <eross> same here, but it installs to /usr/bin/ instead of /usr/local/bin
[02:17] <Frank83> Bucky: He could do wine --version
[02:17] <eross> how do I do that?  wine --version doesnt work because /usr/bin isn't in my path
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> eross:  try /usr/bin/wine --version
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:17] <vince> bucky: lappy
[02:17] <eross> version = 1.1.22
[02:17] <grendal_prime> i got a beter idea...get rid of wine...virtual box is the cure to this problem
[02:18] <vince> hostname of my system is lappy
[02:18] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy when I activate splashscreen the image is in the lower right hand corner is there a way to center this image
[02:18] <bucky> vince: and this is wireless?
[02:18] <eross> virtual box do D3D9c (bf2)?
[02:18] <vince> bucky : ATM yes however behavior is the same wired as well
[02:18] <bucky> vince: and it configured itself to be ppp ?
[02:18] <ravil> what is better for games - vmware or virtualbox?
[02:19] <ablyss> vince that is okay then
[02:19] <grendal_prime> ravil: virtualbox
[02:19] <grendal_prime> vmware is a dog i use them both each day.
[02:19] <Frank83> I might be wrong, but I think virtualbox doesn't do OpenGL
[02:20] <eross> i had playonlinux installed and I uninstalled it
[02:20] <mosab> How is Wubi work?
[02:20] <Frank83> I stick to Wine.
[02:20] <grendal_prime> Frank83: vmware does not graphic acceleration whatsoever.  Virtual box will accelerate opengl apps.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> mosab:  it works.. but some times not very well.. I reccomend trying Ubuntu In virtualbox - if yoiu cant do a 'normal' ubuntu install.
[02:20] <KB1JWQ> mosab: It runs under Windows, and installs Ubuntu from there. :)
[02:20] <ablyss> wine is ideal for gaming since it does not require a virtual OS to run
[02:20] <KB1JWQ> mosab: But as others have said it's not preferred.
[02:21] <KB1JWQ> !wubi
[02:21] <ray66> !splashscreen
[02:21] <grendal_prime> wine is a pain
[02:21] <mosab> Wubi is not work like virtual , installed?
[02:22] <Monay93> hi
[02:22] <mzz> jdoggy: I don't recall having to enter a recovery password for my encrypted home (which iiuc is a /home/me/.Private file)
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> mosab:  wubi installs to a file, then has a special boot menu item in windows to boot it. its not in a 'virtual' machine.
[02:22] <Frank83> Grendal_Prime, It's fun once you get a grip on it. It's a challenge.
[02:22] <grendal_prime> I dont play games but the games ive seen that run under wine, well they partially run, cedega helps alot, but most of the good ones have linux ports anyhow
[02:22] <mosab> thanks <Dr_Willis>
[02:23] <ablyss> wine does not do well w/ composite xserver and games so you do have to switch compositing off for decent gaming experience
[02:23] <roberto__> hey
[02:23] <roberto__> how are you guys
[02:23] <ray66> !reposition splashscreen
[02:24] <roberto__> why dosn't my sound work
[02:24] <roberto__> no volume
[02:25] <Guest69582> try right clicking on volume, preferences and changing default to lineout
[02:25] <ray66> How do I change the position of a splashscreen image
[02:25] <alexanderazimov> ...the bot is....sentient..
[02:26] <ablyss> wine is not a pain, try getting mythtv to run through hdmi and using lirc to remotely control lights, volume, screensavers... that gets to be a pain
[02:26] <zetheroo> what version of ath5k is used in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[02:26] <roberto__> i don't see a line out option
[02:27] <raiden> iop
[02:27] <mathews> Is there a way to make Ubuntu not prompt for user password whenever I need to do some tasks? It shouldn't be a significant security risk, because Ubuntu will only be on this machine for a few days
[02:28] <ravil> mathews: use visudo to edit sudoers file
[02:28] <brandon> mathews, you can login as root maybe
[02:28] <mathews> ravil: where is the sudoers file located?
[02:28] <Guest82583> merde il ya un probleme je vois pas la liste des pseudo
[02:29] <Guest82583> sous Xchat gnome
[02:29] <ravil> mathews: just run 'sudo visudo' command
[02:29] <brandon> maybe.google for it
[02:29] <roberto__> no lineout option in prefrences
[02:29] <roberto__> and im on a laptop
[02:29] <mathews> Nevermind, I found it
[02:29] <ravil> mathews: and add line: user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/yourcommand1 /usr/sbin/yourcommand2 etc
[02:30] <ravil> mathews: where 'user' is the name of your user
[02:30] <name> hi
[02:30] <ablyss> hi
[02:31] <mathews> ravil: thank you. going to reboot and give it a shot to see if ti worked
[02:31] <name> why would gnome mistake the up-arrow for prtsc?
[02:32] <ravil> name: check system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[02:32] <name> ravil: it says print there.
[02:32] <ablyss> keyboard toast?
[02:32] <roberto__> hello anyone else had a sound issue
[02:32] <ablyss> try spare keyboard if you have one
[02:32] <name> ravil: i'm having a costum xmodmap which worked on archlinux.
[02:32] <KB1JWQ> For $10 it's worth keeping a spare handy.
[02:33] <name> ablyss: my keyboard is okay.
[02:33] <samalex> i've finally come back to Linux on my primary system :)  Ordered a system76 laptop to replace my iBook and this thing is sweet! Anyone else using one o these?  Just curious.
[02:33] <storrgie> I just double clicked a samba share and it mounted, where is it acutally mounted though?
[02:33] <newuser> hello i am new to ubuntu
[02:33] <roberto__> does your sound work newuser?
[02:33] <ablyss> hello
[02:33] <newuser> and when i try to install updates of system manager it says not enough free space
[02:33] <newuser> what do i do
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> storrgie:  for a user in their .gvfs/SOMTHING directory it seems.. and i no idea how it manages todo that and not show up in the 'mount' command output.
[02:34] <newuser> nope roberto
[02:34] <roberto__> make your partition larger
[02:34] <newuser> i am also having problem installing flash
[02:34] <storrgie> Dr_Willis: one moment let me check
[02:34] <ravil> newuser: run sudo apt-get clean
[02:34] <newuser> my partition is already 20 gb for ubuntu
[02:34] <roberto__> 64bit ubuntu newuser?
[02:34] <newuser> idk
[02:34] <samalex> newuser, I've used linux for well over a decade, but most of this is from a server standpoint.  I've had a Linux server going at home for years and used Linux on my desktop and laptop until about 5-6 years ago when i moved to OSX.  I just replaced the iBook with an Ubuntu system, and thus far I have zero regrets.
[02:34] <newuser> how do i check
[02:34] <storrgie> Dr_Willis: i love you.
[02:35] <newuser> i like linux and ubuntu philosophy
[02:35] <roberto__> well samalex can you help me get the sound going
[02:35] <newuser> but i feel very confused right now
[02:35] <roberto__> im with you newuser
[02:36] <roberto__> i tried ubuntu a few years back and i liked it and the comunity but now im lost again
[02:36] <bucky> newuser: what's your mount point for the 20G partition? did you make that / ?
[02:36] <googeek> mzz: hey, you there?
[02:36] <Wingless> Question: what does it mean for a program to run in "as a daemon"?
[02:36] <Wingless> -in
[02:37] <bucky> Wingless: it's a program that runs in the background... type top to see them all
[02:37] <ablyss> wingless , daemon etymology is greek word meaning server
[02:37] <newuser> hi i have 20 gb partition for ubuntu that was set automaticaly when installing but when i am trying to install uddates it says not enough free space
[02:37] <ablyss> one who serves
[02:37] <Wingless> does a daemon program show up on pstree?
[02:37] <newuser> can someone help
[02:37] <RPG_Master> I am trying to help my aunt setup her new DSL router, and I need help :(
[02:37] <newuser> its through update manager
[02:37] <name> sorry
[02:37] <name> fglrx fucked up.
[02:38] <roberto__> I need some sound can anyone help
[02:38] <newuser> bucky, i dont understand, i am really bad with computing
[02:38] <roberto__> pm me please
[02:38] <Wizzup> name: What card do you use?
[02:38] <bucky> Wingless: yes the can be seen with pstree
[02:38] <Wingless> Cool.  Thanks for the help!
[02:38] <roberto__> its a hp laptop
[02:38] <roberto__> has an intel hd all i know
[02:38] <jmite> does anybody know how to fix the black box that appears behind cairo-dock when I use it enabled with openGL? I have Ubuntu Jaunty and Intel graphics, if that makes a difference, i965 I think
[02:38] <bucky> newuser are you installing?
[02:38] <RPG_Master> It came with some DSL "Filters" and I just told her to put it in between the cable and the jack....
[02:38] <name> Wizzup: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
[02:38] <samalex> roberto_, sorry, probably cant help much with sound, as I said most of my experience is on servers with no sound.
[02:38] <googeek> I need some help...My wireless works on fresh install, and on livecd, but after one reboot, the wireless network changes to "device not managed"
[02:39] <newuser> yes
[02:39] <samalex> I ordered a system76 laptop where all the hardware works outta the box just so I wouldn't have to worry about driver issues.
[02:39] <newuser> is there any remote assistance way in ubuntu bucky , so like you could look whats wrong
[02:39] <RPG_Master> So is she using these filters correctly
[02:39] <RPG_Master> ?
[02:39] <Wizzup> name: Very new card. I've had it too. fglrx *should* work for it, at least 2d. radeon drivers should also work
[02:39] <mazda01__> hello everyone
[02:39] <name> Wizzup: it does work. but not well.
[02:40] <bucky> newuser: when you make a partition to install to you need to mount the root file system to the partition which is described as /   ...that is the top level file
[02:40] <Wizzup> Lucky you. I spent more than a week getting it to work - and failed ;)
[02:40] <name> are usual US keyboards 104 or 105 keys?
[02:40] <newuser> can i pm you bucky
[02:40] <bucky> newuser: you have to be able to read
[02:40] <googeek> Wireless works on live cd, and fresh install, than stops working after reboot, ANYONE, help?
[02:40] <mdg> RPG_Master: yes, that is correct
[02:40] <roberto__> ok well i give up
[02:40] <mazda01__> so has anyone tried out the latest build of chromium-rel-linux? it's a zip file and when I extract it there 2 files that are exectuable but they don't start google chrome browser. how do I start it or is there a deb somewhere to download?
[02:41] <bucky> newuser: no because you haven't answered any of my questions... what are you doing.. are you installing?
[02:41] <jmite> anybody have any ideas for my cairo-dock problem?
[02:41] <newuser> i did not make partitions manually bucky , sorry if i seem retarded, i am very bad at computing
[02:41] <mdg> RPG_Master: does she have one for every telephone outlet with a phone plugged in?
[02:41] <roberto__> looks like you cant have linux and sound
[02:41] <newuser> no
[02:41] <newuser> i installed it already
[02:41] <newuser> the update manager popped up, and when i click yes to install updates it says not enough space
[02:41] <roberto__> that would be to nice
[02:41] <bucky> newuser: and now it says you don't have enough space on your drive?
[02:41] <newuser> yes :(
[02:41] <RPG_Master> She only has one jack and she only uses a cellphone
[02:42] <RPG_Master> so its gone unused until now
[02:42] <null> Is anyone here from the UK?  Is it true that nobody has mesh screens in their windows to keep bugs out?
[02:42] <mdg> RPG_Master: then you are good to go :)
[02:42] <newuser> ill tell you exactly what it says
[02:42] <googeek> Pretty please with sugar on top, I really need some help...
[02:42] <gartral> newuser: well... clean out your drive
[02:42] <bucky> newuser: type df -h    how much of "mounted on /" is used  ..what percentage?
[02:42] <mazda01__> anyone use google chrome? i download a zip file but i don't know how to run it?
[02:42] <shamm> heya bucky
[02:42] <roberto__> i realy don't understand what the rave about linux is
[02:42] <mzz> googeek: sorry, was preoccupied. What's up?
[02:42] <bucky> i don't know any shamm
[02:42] <roberto__> it never just works
[02:43] <mdg> googeek: what kind of wifi card?
[02:43] <shamm> <--- LinuxGold
[02:43] <googeek> mzz: np, np at all...
[02:43] <newuser> terminal is installing something atm
[02:43] <newuser> so i cant type that
[02:43]  * mzz is currently trying to get the openchrome driver to behave on his new old laptop
[02:43] <googeek> mdg: I'm using a hwu8dd dish
[02:43] <RPG_Master> mdg: But when she plugs it into her laptop (running 9.04) it says its connect but she can't go anywhere using firefox :(
[02:43] <bucky> newuser ok
[02:43] <Phantal> Is there something in ubuntu that controls whether or not sounds that would normally go through the pc speaker are emitted through the normal sound device?
[02:43] <newuser> Not enough free disk space
[02:43] <newuser> The upgrade needs a total of 391M free space on disk '/'. Please free at least an additional 298M of disk space on '/'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[02:43] <Alecc> can wnyone know how to download a compatible drivers for kubuntu KDE 8.04
[02:44] <ravil> roberto__: post to pastebin.ca output of 'lspci' and 'dmesg' commands and give here the link
[02:44] <newuser> this what it says bucky
[02:44] <googeek> mzz: I tried to use gedit, and it said I didn't have permission or some such
[02:44] <imme-emosol> Erm , hope you guys can help me ...
[02:44] <imme-emosol> Just did an install , am still on the LiveCD .
[02:44] <mzz> googeek: that's as expected if you're running gedit as yourself. You need to run some editor as root (or save the file elsewhere and copy it back as root)
[02:44] <imme-emosol> I installed ext4 partitions in LVM groups ...
[02:44] <mdg> RPG_Master: are you there with her so you can check something?
[02:44] <b0nn> imme-emosol: take the install cd out of the drive, and reboot?
[02:44] <imme-emosol> And I want to use bind mounts ...
[02:45] <googeek> mzz: best way to run it as root?
[02:45] <mzz> imme-emosol: why?
[02:45] <nikolaj> hi
[02:45] <nikolaj> can anyone help with networking issues?
[02:45] <mzz> googeek: well, I tend to avoid running X things as root if I don't have to, so I'd run something simple (like nano) through sudo
[02:45] <nikolaj> i seemed to have done something very silly and don't know how to fix it
[02:45] <nikolaj> :)
[02:45] <RPG_Master> mdg:  ...No I am in Alabama and  she's in Mississippi. I've been walking through all this over the phone but I can ask her to
[02:46] <googeek> mzz: so, "sudo nano" then?
[02:46] <jmite> can anybody help me with a cairo dock problem I have? it's got a weird black box behind it in gl mode
[02:46] <roberto__> anyone think they can fix my sound
[02:46] <imme-emosol> b0nn: Yes , I would , if not for this:
[02:46] <imme-emosol> # /var,/usr,/tmp,/opt,/mnt was on /dev/mapper/my_lvm-main during installation
[02:46] <imme-emosol> UUID=c4c97b2b-3ad3-490f-9598-10e887e418b0 /var,/usr,/tmp,/opt,/mnt ext4    relatime,bind        0       2
[02:46] <dopper> Is this a bug for grub2 in ubuntu hardy? after uninstalling grub2 and reinstalling...I get a popup asking to chainload grub2 from grub legacy except that it doesn't add an entry to menu.lst
[02:46] <roberto__> i just installed ubuntu and there is no sound
[02:46] <mzz> googeek: "sudo nano /media/whateveryourdiskis/etc/network/interfaces", possibly
[02:46] <imme-emosol> That doesn't seem very right , but I could be wrong ofcourse ...
[02:46] <newuser> bucky, can you help please?
[02:46] <googeek> mzz: k, brb
[02:46] <sjlkg> okay does anyone know how to add a 'print 'emitted %signal'' line with correct intendation after each line that has 'emit('%signal'' in it, where %signal is some string (words connected with dashes)..? with sed?
[02:46] <imme-emosol> mzz: because .   :)
[02:46] <mzz> imme-emosol: that's very odd. How did you manage that? What *is* your lvm setup like?
[02:46] <mdg> RPG_Master: okay.  The icon for networking looks like two computers and is toward the right side of the panel (the panel may be at the top or bottom depending depending on preference).
[02:46] <bucky> newuser: type df -h    how much of "mounted on /" is used  ..what percentage?
[02:47] <ravil> roberto__: I told you what you can do if you really want help.
[02:47] <imme-emosol> mzz: I managed that by typing those comma's in the manual partitioner of the gui-installer .   :P
[02:47] <RPG_Master> Yeah I told her to check that... what about it?
[02:47] <roberto__> sorry i must have missed it ravil
[02:47] <mdg> RPG_Master: if she can left click that icon and tell us what she sees (we are looking for something like "Auto eth0"
[02:47] <Alecc> i had also a problem with my kubuntu 8.04 there is no sound when i installed the OS
[02:47] <Strakerias> hello
[02:47] <newuser> ah, well when the dl finishes i will, may i pm you then?
[02:47] <RPG_Master> mdg:  its there
[02:47] <nikolaj> roberto
[02:47] <RPG_Master> But still, firefox can't connect
[02:47] <nikolaj> check new conversation tab
[02:48] <mzz> imme-emosol: so what *is* your lvm setup like? I don't know what "I want to use bind mounts" means.
[02:48] <Strakerias> can you people explain me how to partition hhd on vista for a second os
[02:48] <mdg> RPG_Master: Is the little round circle filled or empty (chosen or unchosen)?
[02:48] <imme-emosol> My lvm-groups: audio home installers main srv text video
[02:48] <RPG_Master> Shouldn't just _auto_ connect to it since its wired?
[02:48] <RPG_Master> *it
[02:48] <imme-emosol> They are on sda3
[02:48] <newuser> i am dling the unrestricted extras bucky  and my internet is not that fast so it could take a while
[02:49] <imme-emosol>  /boot is on sda1
[02:49] <newuser> is there any other way to check except terminal what you want me to do
[02:49] <dopper> does anyone have an example of menu.lst with grub2 chainloaded from it?
[02:49] <mdg> RPG_Master: it will auto connect if she has chosen "Enable Networking"
[02:49] <mazda01__> anyone know how to start google chrome browser after I downloaded the latest zip archive?
[02:49] <imme-emosol> and swap is on sda4
[02:49] <mdg> RPG_Master: She can get that option by right clicking the network icon and clicking the "Enable Networking" box
[02:49] <mistere357> Is there an Ubuntu 'preferred' method of placing sftp users into a chroot environment.  Running 8.04 with OpenSSH 4.7P1
[02:49] <bucky> newuser: are you making your own repository mirror?
[02:49] <bucky> newuser it's going to take more than 20G
[02:49] <newuser> once again i have no idea what that means :/
[02:49] <googeek> mzz: How do I find out "whateveryourdiskis"?
[02:49] <RPG_Master> mdg: That's not automatically set to that?
[02:49] <mzz> imme-emosol: hmm, no swap in lvm? Oh well. Still, what does that have to do with bind mounts?
[02:50] <mzz> googeek: try "ls /media", it should be fairly obvious.
[02:50] <mdg> RPG_Master: mine was automatically set, but its something to check
[02:50] <imme-emosol> mzz:  bind mounts is what I found out today , being possible to mount multiple folders in the same partition
[02:50] <mzz> googeek: or even better: type "sudo nano /media/" and hit <tab>
[02:50] <newuser> i also have windows installed here and my HDD is 40 gb since this is a old pc
[02:50] <RPG_Master> mdg: OK I'll ask her to check
[02:50] <Strakerias> newuser : can you help me ?
[02:50] <mzz> imme-emosol: I know what they are, but I don't understand why you want to use them here.
[02:51] <ctmjr> mdg: reading his post ( RPG_Master )it sounds like she put a filter on the line to her modem
[02:51] <newuser> i am new to ubuntu Strakerias so i doubt
[02:51] <googeek> mzz: kk. now what?
[02:51] <bucky> newuser: you can ctl-alt F1   through F7 for more consoles
[02:51] <mzz> googeek: find the right file to edit? Or if you're not comfortable using the cli launch gedit as root instead.
[02:51] <nikolaj> new to linux here, sorry, how do i boot it from the cd, i have installed linux but want to do a completely new install because i need to redo the size of the partition this installation is using
[02:51] <googeek> <---very confused noob right now
[02:51] <RPG_Master> ctmjr:  OH! so its only for phones?
[02:51] <Strakerias> newuser: i just needed to create a partition. heard you guys talking about it...
[02:52] <roberto__> http://pastebin.ca/1527381
[02:52] <imme-emosol> mzz: I want my data-stuff to be inside LVM , all other stuff outside .
[02:52] <mdg> ctmjr: I was under the impression she had a router issue... please explain why you think she is using a modem?
[02:52] <RPG_Master> I am sorry, we have cable at my house
[02:52] <googeek> mzz: I really appriciate your being so patient and helpful with me
[02:52] <imme-emosol> mzz: However , the data-stuff from the OS can be one partition .
[02:52] <gartral> nikolaj: you should just be able to reboot with the disk in the cdrom
[02:52] <null> i'll fix her router issue, if you know what i mena
[02:52] <RPG_Master> so I wouldn't know
[02:52] <newuser> when i did that it turned off my monitor bucky
[02:52] <mzz> imme-emosol: that's a bit odd imho, but ok, I guess that makes some sense. Iirc "man fstab" mentions how to specify bindmounts in fstab.
[02:52] <nikolaj> it won't do that
[02:52] <mdg> RPG_Master: you are not sure if she is using a dial-up modem or a router, correct?
[02:53] <gogeta> i put a sd card in my eeepc and it does not mount or even get seen on dev
[02:53]  * imme-emosol smacks self in face
[02:53] <RPG_Master> She's using a router thats pluged into her phone jack so that's DSL right?
[02:53] <mzz> imme-emosol: hmm, it actually only hints at it, but it's something like "/sourcepath /destpath none bind 0 0"
[02:53] <mdg> RPG_Master: yes
[02:53] <Strakerias> mzz: can you help me ?
[02:54] <RPG_Master> ok, so what about the filter. is it for phones only?
[02:54] <ravil> roberto__: try to google "ICH9 82801I ubuntu"
[02:54] <mzz> Strakerias: I don't understand your original question
[02:54] <mdg> RPG_Master: we use filters on our phones - we have DSL
[02:54] <ravil> roberto__: on all my boxes w/ this chip sound works correct
[02:54] <mzz> also, I *was* kinda trying to get my own ubuntu install working :)
[02:55] <fynn> Hey.
[02:55] <fynn> When I start my Ubuntu, there's a counter that delays the actual boot for a few seconds. Given that this is a pure Ubuntu machine, and 99.9% of the time I just want to boot Ubuntu, how can I disable that?
[02:55] <stlsaint> sup sup...so whats the topic for the min
[02:55] <fynn> This is Jaunty btw.
[02:55] <mdg> RPG_Master: Can you have her right click the networking icon and look under "connection information" at the entry "IP Address" - if it shows all zeros 0000.000.000.000 - then not accessing internet, but if it shows something like 192.168.1.100, then she has an IP address
[02:55] <mzz> fynn: the grub one? Just edit menu.lst
[02:55] <mzz> fynn: /boot/grub/menu.lst that is, there's a timeout mentioned near the top of the file
[02:56] <googeek> mzz: how do I get into gedit under root?
[02:56] <mrmcgibby> I'm trying to get wireless working on a broadcom b43 chipset.  Ubuntu says the driver is activated and in use, but I don't get any wireless connections coming up, just the wired card in the box.
[02:56] <mrmcgibby> ideas?
[02:56] <mzz> googeek: iirc it's something like "gksudo gedit", but I don't do this often
[02:56] <Kapace> mrmcgibby, you need ucodes
[02:56] <stlsaint> yes googeek: gksudo gedit
[02:56] <Las1> what program should I look into if I want to upload jpegs from a camera to the internet?
[02:56] <Kapace> let me link you if someone else isn't faster
[02:56] <mrmcgibby> Kapace, where do I get that?
[02:56] <mdg> mrmcgibby: you need  b43-fwcutter
[02:57] <Lasivian> automatically that is, ie. upload a jpeg every 5 seconds
[02:57] <mrmcgibby> mdg: have that
[02:57] <imme-emosol> mzz: Yeah , man mount was more useful ... :)   ( hoping I've found the fix ... :S )
[02:57] <ctmjr> RPG_Master: remove the filter from the line going into the router, modem or whatever you want to call it you do not need it there it is for the phone only
[02:57] <nullslacker_dean> Anyone know about the hardware side of aircrack-ng?
[02:57] <nullslacker_dean> what cards work...etc...
[02:57] <Kapace> mrmcgibby, i have a shortcut, if i find it
[02:58] <stlsaint> anyone know of a program for ubuntu jaunty that will read daa and gbi files??
[02:58] <googeek> mzz:
[02:58] <Gnea> stlsaint: what kind of files are those?
[02:58] <ideamonk_> Hi guys, need some help here
[02:58] <ideamonk_> I got one external hdd, copied some movies from a friend onto it (ntfs partition) through his windows vista...
[02:58] <ideamonk_> and now all I got is folders... which have the jpeg posters of the movies and .srt files... and things like that, but I wonder where have all the avi files gone !
[02:58] <ideamonk_> I checked the size of the folder, its 6XX mb, but when I get in the folder, I can't see any files
[02:58] <ideamonk_> any ideas what went wrong? on a windows I can still access those movies
[02:58] <FloodBot3> ideamonk_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <mrmcgibby> Kapace: Thanks
[02:58] <stlsaint> nullslacker_dean: check the website for aircrack...theres a whole list of cards that work...site has all you need
[02:58] <googeek> mzz: That worked. so I'm gonna restart again, and hopefully be in business
[02:58] <googeek> brb
[02:58] <mdg> RPG_Master: you can have your aunt try without the filter, but we don't get good connection without them.
[02:58] <fynn> mzz: awesome, just what I wanted. thanks.
[02:58] <nullslacker_dean> alrighty, ill check it out
[02:58] <nullslacker_dean> thanks saint
[02:58] <stlsaint> yep
[02:59] <Gnea> ideamonk_: use the find command on the directory
[02:59] <stlsaint> so anyone have anything that will read daa and gbi files??
[02:59] <Gnea> stlsaint: again, what kind of files are those?
[02:59] <RPG_Master> mdg: turns out she had unplugged it already without telling me...
[02:59] <ideamonk_> Gnea, trying out
[02:59] <ideamonk_> my problem - /
[02:59] <stlsaint> you know like...iso...daa is the same thing except different format...so is gbi
[03:00] <ideamonk_> my problem - http://paste.pocoo.org/show/134015/
[03:00] <mdg> RPG_Master: LOL
[03:00] <fynn> OK, one more question:
[03:00] <fynn> How do I make Automatic Update install only security updates automatically, and *nothing* else?
[03:00] <Kapace> mrmcgibby, sorry its taking long..
[03:00] <poseidon> gnome-look is cluttered with tons of crappy themes.  It makes it hard to find a good one.  Does anyone know of a site that maintains a list of good themes?
[03:00] <Frank83> stlsaint:  Try AcetoneISO
[03:00] <Gnea> stlsaint: aaah, they won't mount to a loop device?
[03:00] <stlsaint> go to source package and chance settings
[03:00] <fynn> poseidon: gnome-look.org
[03:00] <fynn> stlsaint: I did, it doesn't seem to have the desired effect.
[03:00] <ideamonk_> Gnea, nothing with find tooo !
[03:00] <stlsaint> Frank83: yea i have acetone installed and still nothing
[03:00] <RPG_Master> mdg:  next I am going to tell her to right click the network icon
[03:01] <saturnfossil> $(CURDIR)/Makefile Makefile: ;                 ##????? I don,t know the meaning
[03:01] <mazda01__> fynn: it should be synaptic s
[03:01] <Frank83> Gnea: I think look only handles ISO and nrg
[03:01] <mdg> RPG_Master: yes
[03:01] <Frank83> Gnea: Meant +loop
[03:01] <mrmcgibby> Kapace: NP, just glad I found someone to help
[03:01] <mdg> RPG_Master: Have her look at "Connection Information"
[03:01] <ideamonk_> Gnea, so I have /media/disk1/movies/Amellie/ which has Amelie.avi as seen on windows, but I'm unable to see it on ubuntu!
[03:02] <dsdeiz> how to determine swap space used?
[03:02] <saturnfossil> 呵呵
[03:02] <mazda01__> fynn: synaptic preferences
[03:02] <Gnea> stlsaint, Frank83: seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166214
[03:02] <ideamonk_> and the folder size is 650 mb !
[03:02] <mzz> dsdeiz: "free -m" in a terminal, among many other ways
[03:02] <stlsaint> gnea: i cant read them at all?!?!
[03:02] <dsdeiz> thanks
[03:02] <mdg> RPG_Master: also make sure "enable networking"
[03:02] <mdg> is checked
[03:02] <Frank83> Gnea: I have no prob handling those devices, only trying you help out stlsaint
[03:02] <Gnea> stlsaint: it's a website, just load it into your web browser
[03:02] <stlsaint> when i used them in windows xp...before i found the light on ubuntu...i had to use a seperate program for gbi files but daa could be read by poweriso
[03:03] <saturnfossil> I am poor in english
[03:03] <Gnea> stlsaint: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166214
[03:03] <Kapace> mrmcgibby, found it
[03:03] <Kapace> mrmcgibby,  http://www.omattos.com/sites/default/files/b43-all-fw.zip
[03:04] <mistere357> how can I determine the version of libc6 on Hardy and Intrepid?
[03:04] <mdg> Kapace: can you post this at ubuntuforums?
[03:04] <Kapace> mrmcgibby, extract to /lib/firmware, wait a bit, or restart and should work
[03:04] <Kapace> mdg, i have a feeling i shouldn't
[03:04] <Gnea> mistere357: apt-cache show libc6 | grep Version
[03:04] <Kapace> for some licensing reasons
[03:04] <mdg> Kapace: why?
[03:04] <mdg> Kapace: oh
[03:04] <Kapace> broadcom doesn't want you to distribute it's firmware
[03:05] <Kapace> thats why you have to use b43-fwcutter, but its a pain in the neck
[03:05] <mdg> Kapace: I've heard a few people say its a pain...
[03:05] <jedc> how can i map the command key on macbook pro to mod4 on macbook pro anyone?
[03:05] <Kapace> it is, i couldn't get it to work :P
[03:05] <Kapace> especially when you don't have internet connection
[03:06] <mdg> Kapace: LOL yeah that would be pretty amazing if you did   without internet connection!
[03:06] <Kapace> heh
[03:06] <saturnfossil> someone here is good at makefile , I have a question? I am poor in English
[03:06] <meoblast001> where is the default crontab file.. i checked /etc/crontab but my stuff is not in there... and i know it's running because i hear my server beep every morning
[03:06] <saturnfossil> $(CURDIR)/Makefile Makefile: ;                 ##?????
[03:06] <Gnea> saturnfossil: just ask the question
[03:06] <roberto__> how do i get in sudo mode
[03:06] <fynn> OK, in Update Manager, I disabled "recommended updates", and I now get notified automatically only for security updates, which is great.
[03:06] <fynn> But let's say I now want to see a list of all updates for the packages installed on my system. How do I get that?
[03:06] <newuser> i messed up my bottom pannel on ubuntu
[03:07] <fynn> roberto__: su
[03:07] <newuser> how do i restore to default
[03:07] <mistere357> Gnea: thanks!
[03:07] <fynn> newuser: there's no way.
[03:07] <roberto__> it says athorazation failed
[03:07] <fynn> just delete and recreate it.
[03:07] <mzz> meoblast001: check "crontab -l", both as yourself and as root
[03:07] <roberto__> i put password in
[03:07] <ravil> roberto__: sudo su - ?
[03:07] <fynn> roberto__: sudo su passwd
[03:07] <mdg> RPG_Master: how you coming along?
[03:07] <mrmcgibby> Kapace: thanks.  Trying it
[03:07] <newuser> well, i removed the "window list" thing and double screen part
[03:07] <nullslacker_dean> anyone got a site for good deb files i can download? other than get-deb
[03:07] <fynn> newuser: right click, Add to Panel
[03:07] <mdg> mrmcgibby & Kapace:  What kind of laptops you have?
[03:08] <newuser> done
[03:08] <newuser> now?
[03:08] <meoblast001> mzz: ok... so if i do this on my server as user bzrserver, and do an @reboot, will it occur everytime the server starts or every time i log in as bzrserver?
[03:08] <fynn> newuser: now you should see a list of widgets.
[03:08] <mzz> meoblast001: I don't understand what your follow-up question has to do with my answer
[03:08] <fynn> pick the ones to add from the menu.
[03:08] <mzz> meoblast001: "crontab -l" lists what's in your crontab
[03:08] <meoblast001> yes
[03:08] <fynn> newuser: don't worry too much about the "default", it's just the default.
[03:09] <meoblast001> now that i know where that is, i plan to create a new user, and make a crontab for it
[03:09] <newuser> thanks a lot fynn
[03:09] <stlsaint> thanks gnea will check out
[03:09] <mzz> meoblast001: I don't see any obvious connection between crontab and logging in, but I may be missing something.
[03:09] <mazda01__> mazda01: iu want to see if irssi is highlighting my name when someone types it
[03:09] <mrmcgibby> mdg: desktop with a wireless card
[03:10] <mazda01__> nope, how do I setup irssi to highlight my name when someone types it?
[03:10] <mdg> mrmcgibby: oh.  Was expecting "netbook"
[03:10] <roberto__> terminal isnt recognizing my password
[03:10] <ravil> mazda01__: /hilight myname
[03:10] <roberto__> im typing it correctly
[03:10] <fynn> newuser: welcome
[03:10] <Kapace> mdg, compac presarios r3000
[03:10] <mazda01__> mazda01:
[03:10] <newuser> fynn,
[03:11] <newuser> may i pm you
[03:11] <meoblast001> how do i delete a user via the console?
[03:11] <Pici> mazda01__: This isn't a test channel, if you need irssi help ask in #irssi
[03:11] <newuser> just one little problem left
[03:11] <mazda01__> mazda01
[03:11] <fynn> newuser: what's wrong with asking here?
[03:11] <fynn> more people might answer.
[03:11] <newuser> too much chats going on
[03:11] <_Hicham_> how can I stop X from autostarting in Jaunty ?
[03:11] <mazda01__> ravil: nope, it still isn't highlighting. i typed in /hilight mazda01 as well as /hilight myname
[03:12] <fynn> newuser: just prefix my nick like "fynn: ..." to every message. I'll get it.
[03:12] <newuser> i am sure you will be able to help :p if you dont mind
[03:12] <newuser> i am really bad at computing
[03:12] <ravil> mazda01__: my irssi hilight all what I say)
[03:12] <fynn> _Hicham_: change the runlevel
[03:12] <newuser> so i dont want to make a fool out of myself
[03:12] <fynn> newuser: everyone was a newb once.
[03:12] <_Hicham_> fynn : there is no /etc/inittab
[03:12] <fynn> except me, of course.
[03:12] <mazda01__> ravil: well, is there some config file I need to edit? because nothing i am writing it highlighted?
[03:12] <Frank83> Newuser: Don't worry dude, we are all here to help, not to make fun of anyone.
[03:13] <Gnea> newuser: humility is part of life. don't let it get you down and you'll do fine here.
[03:13] <_Hicham_> fynn : can u explain to me how to change the run level in Jaunty ?
[03:14] <newuser> Well, ok system sounds are not working, and i used the "install side by side" installation option for ubuntu along with windows, i only have a 40gb hard dick and it showed that 18 gb will get used by ubuntu with new partition, now the update manager popped up and whn i click on install updates it says not enough free space
[03:14] <fynn> _Hicham_: hm, you probably want to look at /etc/init.d
[03:14] <ravil> mazda01__: ~/.irssi/config
[03:14] <stlsaint> newuser: if you dont make a fool of yourself at least once when you first come to ubuntu than you arent trying to learn hard enough!!
[03:14] <fynn> _Hicham_: specifically, x11-common
[03:14] <prince_jammys> _Hicham_: remove ?dm from startup using update-rc,d
[03:14] <Pici> _Hicham_: if you want to stop X from running then look at man update-rc.d
[03:15] <RPG_Master> She got to google.com!
[03:15] <mazda01__> ravil: what should I put in there, can you pastebin yours please?
[03:15] <Lostinspace_46> stlsaint: LOL
[03:15] <stlsaint> newuser: ive had to re-install my systems plenty of times and now i have it down to an art!!
[03:15] <RPG_Master> and then click on something
[03:15] <Pici> mazda01__: You should not need to modify ~/.irssi/config by hand ever.
[03:15] <RPG_Master> back to firefox's error screen...
[03:15] <mazda01__> newuser: said "dick". i know it's just a typo but that's funny
[03:15] <mdg> RPG_Master: yay  \O/
[03:15] <newuser> lol
[03:15] <newuser> i meant dick
[03:15] <newuser> wow
[03:15] <newuser> disc
[03:15] <Gnea> newuser: well, you should check your hard DISK, by opening a terminal and typing:  df -Th
[03:16] <newuser> ok sec Gnea
[03:16] <stlsaint> newuser: way to go dickuse...i mean newuser
[03:16] <mdg> RPG_Master: was her ISP account setup before she started using ubuntu?
[03:16] <ablyss> that was almost funny stlsaint
[03:16] <RPG_Master> mdg:  I am starting to think its the router/phone jack thats causing this trouble
[03:16] <fynn> OK, guys,
[03:16] <fynn> I disabled "recommended updates" from Update Manager, so now it prompts me only for security updates. Now what's the best way to see all upgradable packages on a one-time basis?
[03:16] <Lostinspace_46> newuser: well now that you have your embarrassment out of the way....
[03:16] <stlsaint> ablyss: i had to try....:(
[03:16] <Lostinspace_46> lol
[03:16] <Frank83> you're being kind ablyss, you know it was not funny at all. :-P
[03:16] <mdg> RPG_Master: she could try without the filter, if it is on, or vice versa -
[03:16] <newuser> Gnea, should i paste it all here
[03:17] <newuser> or pm it to you
[03:17] <meoblast001> how do i add a user the right way? so that the user has a home directory and a group
[03:17] <Gnea> newuser: no, use pastebin
[03:17] <Gnea> !pastebin | newuser
[03:17] <stlsaint> Frank83: alright rub it in
[03:17] <fynn> Basically, I'm looking for a GUI or CLI tool that would show me the list of all packages that have upgardes.
[03:17] <mdg> RPG_Master: will just need to double click the network icon to refresh connection
[03:17] <LioN> someone can help me with issues on audio delay on ubuntu jaunty
[03:17] <Frank83> StlSaint: Not my intention. :-) It's just that you over did the joke. :-P
[03:18] <RPG_Master> mdg: nope, as soon as she got it I put ubuntu on it. And she ordered the DSL plan through AT&T like three days ago
[03:18] <Gnea> fynn: i usually do this:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  (it will prompt to ask if you want to install them or not, listing the packages that are going to be upgraded)
[03:18] <RPG_Master> And got the router today
[03:18] <Gnea> fynn: the upgrade-manager (which is a gui) does the same
[03:18] <ravil> mazda01__: I don't know. If you saved/autosaved options after adding /hilight, then it saved to config file, and nothing more.
[03:18] <newuser> Gnea, ,  here you go http://pastebin.com/m2ec44d9b
[03:18] <RPG_Master> I am think I am just going to tell her to call AT&T
[03:18] <stlsaint> Frank83: alright well since i have your attention let me ask a question...
[03:18] <BenHagan> hello community!
[03:18] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:18] <ablyss> hi
[03:19] <lsemple_> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obama+joker&sa=N&start=21&ndsp=21
[03:19] <stlsaint> Frank83: whats the "make" cmd to compile a exe
[03:19] <lsemple_> oops
[03:19] <Frank83> Stlsaint: I feel I'll be publicly ashamed in no time.
[03:19] <Xerran> LioN: Do you have an x-fi card?
[03:19] <mazda01__> ravil: i just looked at the config file and did a search for hilight and i see this line. hilights = ( { text = "nick"; nick = "yes"; word = "yes"; } );  but my name is not being highlighted when you type it
[03:19] <BenHagan> can anyone help me with not having sound in flash with Jaunty?
[03:19] <mdg> RPG_Master: AT&T might not be much help if she says she is using ubuntu
[03:19] <Gnea> newuser: it says there that your ubuntu disk is only 2.3gb. I'm guessing the other 18gb is on another partition that's unused
[03:19] <meoblast001> ok, i don't care if it has a group, just a command line
[03:19] <googeek> mzz: IT WORKED you're officially my hero!
[03:19] <newuser> oh
[03:19] <mdg> RPG_Master: try the filter on/filter off thing first
[03:19] <mzz> googeek: yay
[03:19] <ravil> mazda01__: try /hilight mazda01__ and /save after that
[03:19] <newuser> so how do i make ubuntu disc bigger now or did i mess up big time
[03:20] <Frank83> Stlsaint: Hm. I mostly do "wine /path/file.exe"
[03:20] <mzz> googeek: now if only I'll get the openchrome driver to work on my old new laptop
[03:20] <stlsaint> does anyone know whats the "make" cmd to compile a exe
[03:20] <mzz> err, new old
[03:20] <Gnea> newuser: so you probably need to reinstall - I suggest booting the livecd up and using gparted to set the partitions
[03:20] <mzz> stlsaint: I don't understand the question
[03:20] <Gnea> !gparted | newuser
[03:20] <stlsaint> Frank83: well for this particular situation i must first compile the exe
[03:20] <mazda01__> mazda01:
[03:20] <Frank83> Stlsaint: Is that a joke on the making?
[03:20] <mzz> stlsaint: "make" itself doesn't really know about exes. What are you trying to build?
[03:20] <googeek> mzz: I'll send you good ju-ju
[03:20] <mazda01__> ravil: weird, it still isn't working
[03:20] <newuser> /dev/sda5  fuseblk     19G  6.2G   13G  34% /media/disk-1
[03:20] <newuser> what does that mean then Gnea
[03:21] <newuser> i really dont want to reinstall
[03:21] <mzz> googeek: I found a promising-looking patch, I just need to figure out how to apply it and build a new .deb
[03:21] <Gnea> newuser: that's another partition on your system
[03:21] <BenHagan> can anyone help me with not having sound in flash with Jaunty?
[03:21] <stlsaint> mzz:i have just downloaded daa2iso and the instructions say to use the make cmd to compile the exe
[03:21] <mzz> stlsaint: try just typing "make" (in the right directory)
[03:21] <Gnea> newuser: ubuntu found it and mounted it for you. it's not a system partition. since it's using fuseblk, it's NTFS, which means it's windows.
[03:21] <fynn> BenHagan: what Flash player are you using?
[03:21] <mzz> stlsaint: also, don't run the install as root
[03:22] <fynn> Gnea: the problem is that after disabling "Recommended Updates" in Update Manager, "apt-get dist-upgrade" doesn't list them too.
[03:22] <ravil> mazda01__: maybe your theme reconfigured colors?
[03:22] <Gnea> newuser: well, 2.3gb is not going to get you anywhere
[03:22] <BenHagan> fynn: hang on...
[03:22] <newuser> yeah
[03:22] <Gnea> fynn: then re-enable them
[03:22] <stlsaint> mzz: ok so make and just the file name or the folder i have the file in?
[03:22] <fynn> Gnea: right, I don't want to do it every time :P
[03:22] <ablyss> stlsaint, the general steps to building an exe is ./configure, make, the sudo make install, though read the readme as make could be case sensitive
[03:22] <mzz> stlsaint: just "make", from inside the directory you got after unpacking the tarball
[03:23] <Frank83> stlsait: If you're talking about that "make" you just browse to the directory where you unpacked and type "make"
[03:23] <mazda01__> ravil: what you just typed didn't highlight my name, it's just plain white
[03:23] <mzz> stlsaint: and again, I wouldn't run "make install" as root. Just run the executable from the build dir (without installing it) or install into some prefix below your homedir as yourself.
[03:23] <newuser> when i click on a youtube vid Gnea  it closes my firefox
[03:23] <Frank83> stlsaint: Might be wrong, but make / make install does require some "packages"
[03:23] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:23] <mzz> mazda01__: irssi? you may be looking for "/set hilight"
[03:23] <mzz> mazda01__: err, no, sec
[03:23] <mzz> mazda01__: /help hilight
[03:23] <RPG_Master> mdg: we have... :(
[03:24] <Gnea> newuser: right, because you have no space left for firefox to cache the information
[03:24] <mazda01__> ravil: i have no idea. i installed it and followed a guide for setting up highlighting and whatnot. i maybe did it wrong
[03:24] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:24] <stlsaint> ok i will try all
[03:24] <newuser> ah
[03:24] <stlsaint> brb
[03:24] <mdg> RPG_Master: we have ... what?
[03:24] <newuser> so basicaly now i am fucked
[03:24] <RPG_Master> mdg:  And they shouldn't give her trouble for using Ubuntu
[03:24] <Frank83> stlsaint: Do NOT use "sudo make"
[03:24] <newuser> is there now ay to fix this without reinstall
[03:24] <RPG_Master> mdg: taking on and off the filter
[03:24] <BenHagan> fynn: adobe-flashplugin  10.0.32.18-1
[03:24] <BenHagan> fynn: im running 32 bit
[03:25] <newuser> i might aswell just delte ubuntu completely because i have no idea how to manualy set partitions
[03:25] <ravil> mazda01__: try to use some other theme, not default. I'm using 'murf' from offsite
[03:25] <dopper> does anyone here use grub2?
[03:25] <mdg> RPG_Master: you said the filters was plugged in the phone jack and then the router was plugged into that, right?
[03:25] <mazda01__> ravil: i don't know how to do that?
[03:25] <RPG_Master> mdg: yes
[03:25] <BenHagan> fynn: the flash stream isn't showing in padevchooser either
[03:25] <mazda01__> ravil: im used to chat, very easy to configure but my current server is very low on resources so I am trying irssi
[03:25] <BenHagan> fynn: i think that may be the root of the issue
[03:25] <fynn> BenHagan: OK, this should play the sound on most systems...
[03:25] <gbrethen> need help with sound on ubuntu 8.10 64 bit/Toshiba A505
[03:25] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:25] <ablyss> Frank83, what is wrong w/ sudo make install?
[03:26] <mzz> ablyss: can write to who-knows-where, so it cannot sanely be undo
[03:26] <googeek> How do I register my screenname?
[03:26] <mdg> RPG_Master: I just looked at ours again - we dont' have a filter between our phone jack and the modem
[03:26] <Frank83> ablyss: Not "sudo make install" but "sudo make"
[03:26] <jondavis> r there any femals in here
[03:26] <mdg> RPG_Master: did you determine if "networking" was enabled?
[03:26] <ablyss> ^ rhetorical question
[03:26] <mzz> and yeah, obviously don't do the non-install bit of make as root no matter what
[03:26] <googeek> <--- is female
[03:26] <MOUD> what's the command to run compiz?
[03:26] <roffe> I was thinking about buying a laptop with an AMD graphics card, but I wonder if the open source driver is good enough?
[03:26] <jeeves_Moss> is there a way to optimize Ruby?  i'm trying to run gl_tail, and it's chewing up my CPU
[03:27] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:27] <BenHagan> fynn: sound works for move player
[03:27] <mazda01__> ravil: i also thought i had this screen name registered with freenode but  Isee i don't as it went from mazda01 to mazda01__
[03:27] <ablyss> Frank83, thanks
[03:27] <newuser> Gnea,  how to delte ubuntu completely
[03:27] <Gnea> newuser: why?
[03:27] <fynn> BenHagan: yeah, that's very weird.
[03:27] <newuser> well i am so confused
[03:27] <mzz> roffe: support for various newer chipsets is improving, but I'd check on their wiki page if they support the intended chipset at all yet
[03:27] <BenHagan> fynn: movie*
[03:27] <newuser> sounds wont work
[03:27] <fynn> Gnea: I suspect trolling.
[03:27] <newuser> and i dont know how to set partitions
[03:27] <Frank83> ablyss: Sorry, failed to catch the rhetorical part.
[03:27] <RPG_Master> mdg: yep. like I said she got to google.com and thats why I suspect that its something other then her laptop thats causing the problem
[03:27] <stlsaint> Frank83: mzz: got permission denied
[03:27] <BenHagan> fynn: yeah thats what i thought
[03:27] <newuser> and i have no space
[03:27] <mzz> stlsaint: doing what?
[03:28] <stlsaint> Frank83: yea frank has an issue at catching stuff....:D
[03:28] <ravil> mazda01__: maybe you have to auth w/ the nickserv?
[03:28] <jeeves_Moss> is there a way to optimize Ruby?  i'm trying to run gl_tail, and it's chewing up my CPU
[03:28] <stlsaint> make install
[03:28] <roffe> mzz, thanks.. would you happen to know the address to their wiki?
[03:28] <mazda01__> ravil: unless I left myself logged in on my other computer?
[03:28] <mzz> RPG_Master: what's failing, the dns lookup or the actual connection?
[03:28] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:28] <Gnea> newuser: the only way to learn is to just do it. we can help you, but you need to be willing to help yourself first.
[03:28] <fynn> BenHagan: try the forums. in general, I wouldn't expect sound to work while Flash does't. try right-clicking on a movie and seeing if there are any relevant options.
[03:28] <mazda01__> ravil: how do I change the theme?
[03:28] <mdg> RPG_Master: the other thing to try is to switch the router off for a good five minutes, it forces it to reset itself.
[03:28] <BenHagan> fynn: it's pretty frustrating im also using an audacity but i've never had problems with it before
[03:28] <gbrethen_> need some help with sound onToshiba A505 running 8.10 64 bit
[03:28] <mzz> roffe: try http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
[03:28] <stlsaint> mazda01: theme of what?
[03:28] <fynn> jeeves_Moss: study for 10 years until you can write a better implementation :)
[03:28] <RPG_Master> I think the DNS lookup
[03:29] <ablyss> Frank83, im sorry u failed to catch it.. I maybe a troutslap will help ? :P
[03:29] <Frank83> Stlsaint: My brain is so screwed up right now that it's not even able to complete the cognitive procedures needed to understand what you just implied.
[03:29] <jeeves_Moss> fynn, geeee, thanks.
[03:29] <mazda01__> stlsaint: theme of irssi.
[03:29] <newuser> But to do something i need to know atleast the basics
[03:29] <jondavis> are there any femals that dont have a bf
[03:29] <RPG_Master> mdg:  I think the DNS lookup
[03:29] <googeek> mzz:(01:27:14 AM) NickServ: (notice) Insufficient parameters for REGISTER.
[03:29] <googeek> (01:27:14 AM) NickServ: (notice) Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email>,
[03:29] <roffe> mzz, thanks, I'll look into it asap
[03:29] <stlsaint> Frank83: its alright...may the buntu be with you!!
[03:29] <googeek> mzz: what am i doing wrong?
[03:29] <fynn> BenHagan: yeah, flash is the suck. again, try the forums. other than that, maybe try Gnash.
[03:29] <Gnea> newuser: well, do you know how to burn a cd?
[03:29] <mzz> RPG_Master: if the dns lookup fails I'd have her manually switch to opendns temporarily (you can find the ips for their nameserver online, just stuff those in /etc/resolv.conf by hand temporarily)
[03:29] <Frank83> ablyss: What's a troutslap?
[03:29] <BenHagan> fynn: k thanks
[03:29] <newuser> yes
[03:30] <mzz> RPG_Master: but only do that after checking it's the dns lookup that fails (the firefox error message should tell you, or use "host" on the commandline to check)
[03:30] <ablyss> Frank83, wet fish in the face :O
[03:30] <mazda01__> googeek: wat are you telling me. that's the message for the nick mazda01?
[03:30] <mdg> RPG_Master: you want mzz - he was aking about DNS lookup
[03:30] <jondavis> any hot girls
[03:30] <jondavis> any hot girls
[03:30] <redvamp128> LioN:  not sure if this will fix the issue -- but in the past (and yes I know it is old) Intrepid -- I fixed a delay of sound(which now I run a Hardy/Jaunty dual boot) but when I was testing it by specifying which card to use in the sound instead of using the autodetect. also -- there was a command to kill pulse-audio (that is if you use alsa)  which seemed to help
[03:30] <Frank83> ablyss: Does not sound very pleasant. I'll pass.
[03:30] <googeek> mazda01: what?!
[03:30] <mzz> googeek: apparently you didn't give it enough parameters :) it wants a password and an email address for some reason.
[03:30] <jondavis> any hot girls
[03:31] <ziroday> jondavis: stop that.
[03:31] <ravil> mazda01__: /set theme themename
[03:31] <mzz> !offtopic ! jondavis
[03:31] <mazda01__> googeek: nevermind
[03:31] <googeek> mzz: ok, but where?
[03:31] <MadGirl> i heard but where was the configuration file generated by the genkernel?
[03:31] <ablyss> Frank83, realistically you could possibly sue, but virtually ah the sky is the limit
[03:31]  * mzz frowns
[03:31] <mzz> !offtopic | jondavis
[03:31] <marhuxo> ][][][-OLA TODOS-][][][
[03:31] <ravil> mazda01__: don't forget to download the theme
[03:31] <mazda01__> ravil: do i have to download a theme first?
[03:31] <Frank83> Ablyss: Sue you for menacing me with a wetsfish slap to the face?
[03:31] <mazda01__> ravil: where do I put it?
[03:32] <mzz> googeek: on the same line as "register" ("register secret googeek@somewhere")
[03:32] <mazda01__> ravil: what theme are you using again?
[03:32] <googeek> mzz: does that mean my name is already registered?
[03:32] <jondavis> looking  for a girl who know linux
[03:32] <Kapace> !es
[03:32] <Cope57> Grim76, why you here? ;)
[03:32] <ablyss> Frank83, hypothetically speaking
[03:32] <stlsaint> hey is poweriso compatible(safely) with jaunty
[03:32] <grim76> Yeah sup?
[03:32] <Revrus_> stlsaint, to burn or to be used in wine?
[03:32] <mzz> googeek: "/msg nickserv info googeek" told me it's free
[03:33] <Cope57> Not to much, just noticed the lug chat a bit quiet
[03:33] <jondavis> any girls
[03:33] <stlsaint> Revrus_: i mean to be used/installed under wine
[03:33] <mzz> jondavis: you're in the wrong place (definitely the wrong channel, probably the wrong network)
[03:33] <stlsaint> jondavis: theres something called ubuntu women forums for that
[03:33] <Revrus_> stlsaint, wine doesnt emulate drivers, so if your using it for a virtual cd drive, i would say no
[03:33] <DrMrHorse> no girls on the internet
[03:34] <Frank83> ablyss: Well, Hm. Making you and I waste precious time and money, making 2 lawyers wealthier just because of a non life threating menace..... I'll pass. Anyhow, I'm out of your jurisdiction.
[03:34]  * ablyss gives Frank83 a virtual trout to make the game fair
[03:34] <nikolaj> hello
[03:34] <googeek> mzz: hmmm......I'm totally new to this whole irc world...
[03:34] <jondavis> i am looking for a hot linux lady
[03:34] <mazda01__> ravil: i also thought I told irssi to hide people joining but it's still showing me people join.. also, i wonder how mzz got his name yellow? man, irssi is tough compared to xchat. i am not used to configuring without a gui
[03:34] <ziroday> !ops | jondavis
[03:34] <stlsaint> recrus: no i would want to use it to convert everything into iso...ie gbi...daa...etc
[03:34] <ravil> mazda01__: put theme to ~/.irssi directory
[03:34] <ravil> mazda01__: I'm using 'murf'
[03:34] <ravil> mazda01__: try to read this: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[03:34] <Lostinspace_46> How much are tickets to the trout fight?
[03:35] <Gnea> !gparted
[03:35] <Revrus_> stlsaint, then i would say go ahead and try, but i think you would be better off finding a program compiled for linux to do that
[03:35] <Smithers> hi
[03:35] <ravil> mazda01__: look at the manual on the webpage; all settings described there
[03:35] <mzz> mazda01__: I didn't do anything special. irssi hilights lines that start with your own nick that way by default.
[03:35] <ablyss> Frank, I been to France once.. i'm a off to assume you're over there?
[03:35] <Gnea> newuser: so start, please, by visiting http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:35] <newuser> oh
[03:35] <stlsaint> revrus: any ideas than?
[03:35] <Frank83> Ablyss: You're assuming I am French?
[03:35] <mazda01__> mzz: not mine apparently
[03:35] <Gnea> newuser: it's very easy, just go with the flow
[03:36] <newuser> I just dont want to reinstall, cant i resize partition without it
[03:36] <mazda01__> mzz: all the lines that start with my nick, are white and yours and ravil's are yellow. i wonder how that happened
[03:36] <Gnea> newuser: possibly. gparted can do that.
[03:36] <stlsaint> Gnea: there are groups that help ppl like you who pry on little kids......
[03:36] <Smithers> anyone in the mood to answer a newbie question?
[03:36] <jondavis> what chatroom can i talk to a hot linux lady
[03:36] <Gnea> stlsaint: excuse me?
[03:36] <newuser> i really cant understand how to use it
[03:36] <newuser> or install it
[03:36] <stlsaint> Gnea: lol...its easy...just go with the flow!!!
[03:36] <newuser> from that webpage
[03:37] <Revrus_> stlsaint, i dont have a recomendation, but looks like bchunk will do .bin and .cue images
[03:37] <DrMrHorse> newuser: to repartion safely you should do so without any disks mounted, ie via live cd
[03:37] <DrMrHorse> you can also use the ubuntu live cd for gparted
[03:37] <stlsaint> Gnea: newuser | little kids
[03:37] <Gnea> stlsaint: would you prefer to speak with the channel operators for making a false accusation?
[03:37] <stlsaint> its a joke
[03:37] <ctmjr> stlsaint: that was uncalled for
[03:37] <newuser> see
[03:37] <newuser> insults start coming
[03:37] <Gnea> stlsaint: a piss-poor joke
[03:37] <Smithers> I noticed while sniffing that my dhclient has a UDP port open and gives my hostname to services that request it
[03:37] <stlsaint> Gnea: sorry for confusion
[03:38] <newuser> just tell me how to delelte ubuntu completely
[03:38] <Gnea> stlsaint: please don't ever do that again.
[03:38] <newuser> i may be young but i am only bad at computing
[03:38] <ziroday> Smithers: that sounds like avahi
[03:38] <Smithers> would it harm anything for me to disable dhclient after I've established my net connection?
[03:38] <Gnea> newuser: we don't do that here.
[03:38] <newuser> its very easy to tell someone "they suck"
[03:38] <mazda01__> and i keep seeing these darn people join. nothing against anyone, i just wish I had irssi setup better
[03:38] <googeek> mzz: oh, hahahaha, I figured it out
[03:38] <Smithers> hm, avahi
[03:38] <T3CHKOMMIE> hi everyone
[03:38] <stlsaint> Gnea: will remember
[03:38] <ziroday> Smithers: disabling dhclient would have you lose your internet connection if I remember correctly
[03:38] <gartral> stupid Q: when installing games from ource, i should compile and install them too /usr/bin/games yea?
[03:38] <googeek> mzz: thanks for all your help
[03:38] <Lostinspace_46> newuser: Don't let any of this get you down
[03:38] <RPG_Master> so how do I use the host command>
[03:38] <Revrus_> stlsaint, "sudo apt-get install bchunk ccd2iso mdf2iso nrg2iso" using each one when appropriate
[03:38] <RPG_Master> *?
[03:39] <Frank83> Newuser: Relax. Ubuntu is not easy, try to take it with calm.
[03:39] <Lostinspace_46> newuser: We were all noobs at one time
[03:39] <Gnea> newuser: forget the banter, we can help you get your partition resized.
[03:39] <newuser> ok :/
[03:39] <Smithers> ziroday: is there anything I can do about this?
[03:39] <MOUD> gonna get some sleep, good night everyone and thanks for everything :)
[03:39] <T3CHKOMMIE> i have a virtualbox problem can anyone help?
[03:39] <mdg> mzz: could you guide RPG_Master on host command stuff?
[03:39] <stlsaint> newuser: remember what i said earlier...gotta mess up to learn!!!
[03:39] <newuser> what do i do now to start
[03:39] <Kapace> T3CHKOMMIE, whats wrong?
[03:39] <Frank83> Newuser: No one here will say or imply something about you. Everyone you see here is because they come for help, most of us are noobs even after using ubuntu for years.
[03:40] <mazda01__> ?help ignore
[03:40] <T3CHKOMMIE> i keep failing whe VB vcompiles
[03:40] <ziroday> Smithers: hmm you can disable avahi, what's the issue with keeping it on though?
[03:40] <Lostinspace_46> newuser: The more you break, the faster you learn
[03:40] <imme-emosol> After you get in chroot , how do you get out again ?
[03:40] <Gnea> newuser: visit http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php and download the iso (you may need to reboot to windows to do it)
[03:40] <stlsaint> newuser: google "ubuntu pocket reference guide" its a great tool and good place to start
[03:40] <Lostinspace_46> newuser: I'm learning  REAL fast..lol
[03:40] <imme-emosol> just exit ?
[03:40] <T3CHKOMMIE> i think its a kernel header problem but i have spend like 8 hrs in forums and google searching and havnt gotten anywhere.
[03:40] <Gnea> stlsaint: remember, he has no drive space left
[03:40] <newuser> i dont have any blank disc atm Gnea
[03:40] <Kapace> T3CHKOMMIE, oh your compiling it :| not a clue
[03:40] <imme-emosol> ah yes , nevermind ...   :P
[03:41] <stlsaint> Gnea:.....right
[03:41] <T3CHKOMMIE> its the DEB thats compiling it... i just run the deb...
[03:41] <T3CHKOMMIE> :(
[03:41] <imme-emosol> In a chroot there's nothing in /opt , right ?
[03:41] <stlsaint> newuser: do you have any extra drives around...anything?
[03:41] <Frank83> Gnea: You're gonna guide him through a resize of space inside an Ubuntu Install?
[03:41] <newuser> yeah but i am not allowed to use that
[03:41] <T3CHKOMMIE> kapace, maybe you can help me with my kernel issue?
[03:42] <Kapace> T3CHKOMMIE, why not use the binaries, if there are any?
[03:42] <DrMrHorse> newuser: you say you have no space, even on another partition that you can change?
[03:42] <Lostinspace_46> Where would a good place to get some help with "xmodmap" be?
[03:42] <stlsaint> Gnea: i didnt know you could resize on installed drive...you trying to do it thru the livecd?
[03:42] <Gnea> Frank83: please follow the conversation to know that that isn't what I have suggested.
[03:42] <osiris> i asked earlier, but cant seem to find confirmation on this issue.  if i use dpkg to install something, how do i update it ?  dpkg -i new.version.of.app.deb ?
[03:42] <T3CHKOMMIE> i think i was using the binaries... its got some other problem with the vboxdrv or the dmkb
[03:42] <stlsaint> Lostinspace_46: im not even sure what that is
[03:42] <kindofabuzz> Lostinspace_46, man xmodmap
[03:42] <T3CHKOMMIE> something or other
[03:42] <newuser> DrMrHorse, i used the first option the default one to install it and it said it will have 18gb for ubuntu but apparently it says its only 2 gb
[03:42] <newuser> i dont understand how
[03:43] <Kapace> T3CHKOMMIE, im not sure about that
[03:43] <Frank83> Gnea: My apologies, I got lost in the lines.
[03:43] <stlsaint> oops maybe i should take that advice
[03:43] <ziroday> osiris: that will install a newer version of a package
[03:43] <stlsaint> Gnea: same here
[03:43] <mzz> RPG_Master: sorry, multitasking. Try "host www.google.com"
[03:43] <DrMrHorse> how big is the hard drive and what else is on it?
[03:43] <T3CHKOMMIE> kapace, do you think you could help me sort out my headers?
[03:43] <osiris> ziroday, but will it update, or will i have 2 versions installed then ?
[03:43] <Lostinspace_46> kindofabuzz: Done that..I can copy and paste right from the man and still get an error
[03:43] <DrMrHorse> newuser
[03:43] <ziroday> osiris: it will update
[03:43] <Gnea> newuser: do you have a pen or pencil and some paper to write on?
[03:43] <newuser> 40 gb only, and windows
[03:43] <stlsaint> i think newuser is getting advice from all angles so i will let the more experienced guys handle it
[03:43] <mazda01__> osiris: sure, the new deb will overwrite the old deb but sometimes it's better to uninstall the previous package. it's always best to use your package manager apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic first though
[03:43] <newuser> yes Gnea
[03:43] <Gnea> newuser: better yet, do you have irc in windows?
[03:44] <newuser> yes
[03:44] <Kapace> T3CHKOMMIE, im really not sure about kernel header, i just installed them once to fail at compiling some drivers...
[03:44] <osiris> mazda01, this is a headless server.
[03:44] <RPG_Master> mzz: ok
[03:44] <Gnea> newuser: okay. reboot into windows, and come back here. we'll go from there.
[03:44] <newuser> alright!
[03:44] <newuser> be right back
[03:44] <jedc> can someone help me to map my apple macbook pro command keys to something, or figure out what they are mapped to if they already are, im trying to set up xmonad and i want them to be the mod key
[03:44] <jedc> in jaunty
[03:44] <T3CHKOMMIE> oh, ok... well ill put it out there. if you can thats great if not... i totally understand...
[03:45] <T3CHKOMMIE> i have 9.04 nbr
[03:45] <mazda01__> osiris: so what does that mean? you can't use aptitude or apt-get?
[03:45] <ravil> crossing my fingers... gparted resizing ext4 partition...
[03:45] <T3CHKOMMIE> running kernel image 2.6.29-1-netbook.
[03:45] <mazda01__> ?IGNORE
[03:45] <T3CHKOMMIE> the deb installed the package great.
[03:45] <osiris> mazda01, the package is not in the repos, so apt-get is out.  if there is a better way via apptitude, let me know
[03:45] <Lostinspace_46> jedc I am having somewhat the same issues, just not on Mac
[03:45] <T3CHKOMMIE> but the headers .deb for the same kernal image... says its missing dependancies....
[03:46] <Kapace> do you know which?
[03:46] <MadGirl> which is probably why i ask
[03:46] <Lostinspace_46> jedc "xmodmap is hard to find help with
[03:46] <jedc> Lostinspace_46, yes its very frustrating, i remember it was easy in 8.10
[03:46] <T3CHKOMMIE> no, i dont know where it says that...
[03:46] <mazda01__> osiris: i was only saying that first it's best to use the apt-get ot aptitude package manager, if you can't then install the deb using dpkg. you're doing it correctly
[03:46] <gogeta> i think this sd card is dead
[03:46] <jedc> Lostinspace_46, im not even sure that works anymore from reading some forum posts
[03:46] <jeeves_Moss> what does "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -" do?  it's chewing up a LOT of CPU and RAM
[03:47] <osiris> ok.  just wanted to make sure it would update, as i come from the rpm world, where there is the I and U options
[03:47] <Lostinspace_46> jedc Some of the problem is file names have changed
[03:47] <Smithers> sorry, got disconnected
[03:47] <Smithers> ziroday: can you repost anything you said to me?
[03:47] <Lostinspace_46> jedc mesg me
[03:47] <mazda01__> ravil: i typed in /IGNORE JOINS but it's still showing me people when they join?
[03:47] <innomen> would anyone have any idea why hitting autocorrect during spellcheck would just do nothing?
[03:48] <newuser> Gnea i am here
[03:48] <innomen> this is in open office
[03:48] <osiris> mazda01, what client ?
[03:48] <Gnea> newuser: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php  visit this site, download and burn to cd
[03:48] <mazda01__> osiris: irssi
[03:48] <innomen> open office writer
[03:48] <kindofabuzz> 100M enough for a /boot partition?
[03:48] <osiris> kindofabuzz, should be plenty
[03:48] <ziroday> Smithers: err I just said you can disable avahi with sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop should cancel it. But its not really a security issue
[03:48] <mazda01__> kindofabuzz: yeap. i have mine on 50M
[03:48] <newuser> I just said i dont have a cd Gnea thats the problem :/
[03:48] <DrMrHorse> osiris: the package will update only if you have added a repository that contains the file to your /etc/apt/menu.lst file
[03:48] <newuser> blank one
[03:49] <kindofabuzz> osiris, k
[03:49] <innomen> is there a size limit on the auto correct database for open office now? i know there used ot be but i thought it was corrected
[03:49] <kindofabuzz> mazda01, oh ok
[03:49] <Condoulo> ok, how would I install the new version of OpenOffice (3.1)
[03:49] <Gnea> newuser: oh sorry, missed that. can you get some?
[03:49] <gogeta> anyone use a eeepc and its internel sd reader mine will not see the card
[03:49] <newuser> not at this time
[03:49] <Frank83> Kindfabuzz: More than 500Mb for /boot is considered a "waste"
[03:49] <gogeta> the card may be dead
[03:49] <Smithers> ziroday: thanks for the tip. It's not so much that I'm afraid of a security hole so much as revealing information about my host
[03:50] <Smithers> I think my username is give by it as well, maybe other things
[03:50] <mazda01__> ravil: i have done /IGNORE JOINS and /IGNORE NOTICES but i still see messages about people leaving and coming
[03:50] <newuser> can gparted not be used as a executable program that could resize the partitonj maybe
[03:50] <Stumpie> are WACOM tablets the only ones supported in ubuntu 9.04? TIA :D
[03:50] <Gnea> newuser: then your choices are limited. I know that reinstalling isn't what you'd like to do, but I can tell, when I first installed linux, I reinstalled it many times
[03:50] <ziroday> Smithers: its fine, it only advertises your hostname, possibly mac address, and what avahi services are available
[03:50] <Gnea> newuser: most people in here, in fact, have reinstalled many times
[03:50] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  why does this keep using a lot of CPU time?  /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -
[03:51] <DrMrHorse> in reinstalled last week
[03:51] <gogeta> Gnea: i completly runed the system many times on my noob days
[03:51] <ravil> mazda01__: read /help ignore
[03:51] <cfedde> is there an easy way to make postgres 8.4 be the default postgres on ubuntu?
[03:51] <newuser> how do i know i wont make same mistake Gnea, or mess up my windows too in the process maybe :S
[03:51] <ablyss> i think i'm going on 3 years w/ initial install
[03:51] <newuser> and i'm sure you were much more knowledgeable even back then
[03:51] <gogeta> newuser: you lerned not to do that again
[03:51] <Gnea> newuser: not really :)
[03:51] <ablyss> er, probably 5 years
[03:51] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:51] <T3CHKOMMIE> <[03:51] <newuser> Ill do as you say Gnea
[03:51] <newuser> so how do i reinstall
[03:51] <osiris> gogeta, i got a eee and the sd card reader works fine
[03:51] <DrMrHorse> i knew nothing of linux when i installed ubuntu
[03:51] <mdg> anyone know a console command other than cron to schedule apps to run?
[03:51] <Frank83> Newuser: Don't worry. The 1st incursion into the Linux world is a rocky one.
[03:51] <newuser> and make sure i dont make same mistake
[03:52] <Stumpie> anyone here running a non- WACOM graphic tablet?
[03:52] <ravil> mazda01__: irssi has a general option for ignoring that kind of events; read the manual -_-
[03:52] <gogeta> osiris: cards probly dead
[03:52] <mulambo187> sup guys
[03:52] <ablyss> hi
[03:52] <gogeta> osiris: some cheap 5$ pos
[03:52] <Stumpie> hi
[03:52] <osiris> might be gogeta.  my 20$ wal-mart special did me fine
[03:52] <Gnea> newuser: there are different ways, in the ubuntu installer, to go about doing the partitions (like advanced)
[03:52] <mazda01__> ravil: will do, although it'd be real nice to just have someone tell me.
[03:52] <mazda01__> :-)
[03:52] <gogeta> osiris: its never workes i think it was bought dead
[03:53] <mulambo187> i just installed debian standard installation now im screwed
[03:53] <osiris> at 5 dollars i can believe it
[03:53] <mulambo187> im stuck at terminal
[03:53] <mazda01__> i can't even figure how to get my name highlighted let alone turning off seeing people join and leave
[03:53] <ziroday> mulambo187: wrong place
[03:53] <mulambo187> oh yeah
[03:53] <mdg> anyone know a console command other than cron to schedule apps to run?
[03:53] <file_file> what's the command to install firefox 3.5.1 (not the shiretoko )?
[03:53] <ziroday> mdg: at
[03:53] <newuser> Gnea ?
[03:53] <Stumpie> I see some great Genius graphics tablets for around $24-$40 dollars, does ubuntu support Genius graphics tablets?
[03:53] <osiris> mazda01, http://www.irssi.org/documentation/tips
[03:53] <ziroday> file_file: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[03:54] <gogeta> osiris: i tryed my camra whont format it and wii says i cant use it and pc whont see it
[03:54] <mdg> ziroday: that might be it - I thought it started with an "f"
[03:54] <ravil> mazda01__: I have just a magic spell "All works in my case", sorry)
[03:54] <LioN> someone can help me with audio delay with some games
[03:54] <file_file> ziroday: is this command to install shiretoko ?
[03:54] <osiris> mazda01, and check the irssi web site for how to set up the plugins / config file
[03:54] <ziroday> mdg: at and cron is the only one I know off
[03:54] <osiris> its pretty simple
[03:54] <ziroday> file_file: shiretoko is firefox 3.5
[03:54] <mdg> ziroday: okay.  Thanks will try at
[03:54] <jroach> can't get the ubuntu boot cd to boot
[03:54] <jroach> can someone help?
[03:54] <Stumpie> LioN, try disableing onboard sound if you have a sound card. that helped me out
[03:54] <DrMrHorse> file_file: it only says shiritoko due to branding issues, but it is a final version
[03:54] <file_file> ziroday: i know but i don't want shiretoko
[03:54] <osiris> gogeta, well, depending on wii firmware it wont see a card bigger than 4 gig period
[03:55] <mazda01__> ravil: yeah, you're a lucky wizard with great magically spells
[03:55] <gogeta> osiris: its only 128mb
[03:55] <lstarnes> file_file: shiretoko is firefox
[03:55] <osiris> yeah.  prolly shot
[03:55] <mazda01__> osiris: i can't even copy and paste that link?
[03:55] <file_file> is it possible to install firefox 3.5.1 in ubuntu 9.04 (not the shiretoko) ?
[03:55] <Frank83> JRoach:What's the problem?
[03:55] <gogeta> osiris: acully new wii firmware sees sdhc now
[03:55] <jroach> its a pii
[03:55] <shawn_> Hi, I am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?
[03:55] <ravil> mazda01__: no, I sold my soul to some of daemons...)
[03:55] <lstarnes> file_file: there isn't a package for the regularly-branded firefox 3.5
[03:55] <ziroday> file_file: see http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html
[03:55] <jroach> when I boot it says it doesn't recognize a disc
[03:55] <LioN> Stumpie, man I don't have a sound card...
[03:55] <jroach> but windows xp will boot
[03:55] <Stumpie> oh, sorry
[03:56] <kindofabuzz> does /boot partiton need to be ext4 if the others are?
[03:56] <LioN> yeah
[03:56] <LioN> ok
[03:56] <Frank83> Jroach: Did you check the integrity of the disc?
[03:56] <osiris> gogeta,  i know, as stated by my previous comment
[03:56] <gogeta> osiris: im gonna wright this off as a dead card that 3 devices it failed on
[03:56] <lstarnes> file_file: firefox 3.5 with the mozilla firefox branding will most likely be the default in ubuntu 9.10
[03:56] <shawn_> HI am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update to 8.10 because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?
[03:56] <Gnea> newuser: I just had a thought... when your system boots up, does it do a quick countdown before booting?
[03:56] <jroach> it opens on my mac after inserting
[03:56] <mazda01__> ravil: can at least tell me how to copy and paste in irssi? i tried middle mouse click but that only pasted it into irssi and when I went to my web browser, it pasted something earlier
[03:56] <mazda01__> ravil: that I had copied
[03:56] <kindofabuzz> file_file, google Ubuntuzilla, a script to install the vanilla Mozilla 3.5.2
[03:57] <gogeta> osiris: i have another little issue my eeepc bios seems to keep turning off my wifi card
[03:57] <file_file> is firefox 3.6 available ?
[03:57] <jroach> not recognized as a bootup disc on the mac but not sure if it is supposed to
[03:57] <ShawnC> HI am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update to 8.10 because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?
[03:57] <kbp> is any one using irssi to chat in irc? I forgot the command to ignore leave/quit?
[03:57] <gogeta> osiris: i have to go in the bios and turn it back on and yes i save changes
[03:57] <kindofabuzz> file_file, yes from the Mozilla ftps, but only pre alpha nightlys
[03:57] <lstarnes> file_file: the ubuntu mozilla team's daily build PPA does have daily builds of firefox 3.5 and 3.6
[03:57] <osiris> gogeta, that could be a key mapping problem, where a key on the keyboard turns off the wifi
[03:57] <mazda01__> ravil: i think i figured it out, it is highlighting, that's why your name and osiris name is yellow. HA HA HA, now I just need to read that link about hiding unneeded messages
[03:57] <lstarnes> kindofabuzz: /ignore *!*@ JOINS QUITS PARTS NICKS
[03:57] <lstarnes> kindofabuzz: oops, wrong nick
[03:57] <Frank83> Jroach I am not experienced on Macs. So I don't know how to help you in there.
[03:58] <ShawnC> HI am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update to 8.10 because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?
[03:58] <lstarnes> kbp: /ignore *!*@ JOINS QUITS PARTS NICKS
[03:58] <Stumpie> kbp i think it is /quit or /exit
[03:58] <lstarnes> Stumpie: what can't it calculate?
[03:58] <lstarnes> argh, sorry
[03:58] <kbp> thank you lstarnes
[03:58] <gogeta> osiris: i mean the bios will have it listied as  disbaled
[03:58] <Stumpie> ?
[03:58] <lstarnes> Stumpie: /quit leaves the client
[03:58] <Stumpie> ?!?!
[03:58] <gogeta> osiris: not a keymap
[03:58] <kbp> Stumpie: nice trick
[03:58] <file_file> will it "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6" install firefox 3.6 ?
[03:58] <lstarnes> Stumpie: he was asking how to ignore those
[03:58] <ShawnC> lstarnes:
[03:58] <jroach> Frank83: do you think it would burn differently in windows?
[03:58] <ShawnC> Were you trying to talk to me?
[03:58] <Stumpie> oh, ok
[03:58] <lstarnes> ShawnC: sorry, the message about calculating was for you
[03:58] <osiris> gogeta, mine has a f-key that turns wifi on and off.  guess i never checked to see if it disables it at that time in the bios
[03:59] <gogeta> osiris: seem to only happon when i shut it down it just started doing this after yesterdays updates
[03:59] <ShawnC> lstarnes: http://pastebin.ca/1527438
[03:59] <file_file> if i follow it http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html , will it install shiretoko , or the mozilla firefox ?
[03:59] <lstarnes> file_file: you do know that shiretoko IS firefox, right?
[03:59] <Frank83> Jroach. I wouldn't know. I guess It would be the same since it's just writing an image to a disc.
[03:59] <shyam_k> what would be the easiest way to make a vcd? converting files to mpg with ffmpeg and trying to build vcd with mkvcdfs isn't working:( it says  " ... Record in MPEG file too long for VCD... terminating with this file!!!Not enough MPEG data"
[03:59] <gogeta> osiris: i knoe abought the fn key
[03:59] <file_file> lstarnes: yes
[03:59] <osiris> gogeta, what version of ubuntu you got on it
[03:59] <jroach> does it matter that the iso is 731 mb and the disc is 700?
[03:59] <gogeta> 9.04
[04:00] <lstarnes> file_file: that one is firefox 3.5 with the unofficial branding (shiretoko)
[04:00] <osiris> mines ubuntu eee , ver 8.04
[04:00] <lstarnes> file_file: the official branding can only be used for releases directly from mozilla and for the official firefox package in ubuntu
[04:00] <Frank83> Jroach: Where you got the image?
[04:00] <Gnea> newuser: how many installations of windows do you get to choose from at the menu?
[04:00] <ShawnC> lstarnes: http://pastebin.ca/1527438
[04:00] <jroach> from the ubuntu site
[04:00] <ShawnC> HI am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update to 8.10 because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?  (http://pastebin.ca/1527438)
[04:00] <lstarnes> ShawnC: I saw.  Please give me a few minutes to read it
[04:00] <file_file> lstarnes: i don't want shiretoko icon , i want mozilla firefox 3.5
[04:00] <ravil> mazda01_: just select something w/ your mouse, paste it in browser using mouse middle button
[04:01] <file_file> lstarnes: though they are aliases
[04:01] <Frank83> Jroach: You made sure it's compatible with your PC architecture?
[04:01] <lstarnes> file_file: can't you just deal with the shiretoko branding?
[04:01] <gogeta> osiris: the bios keep disabling it after a shutdown not a restart thowand i mean fully disabled wifi light off
[04:01] <jroach> well, its i386 32 bit and pentium ii are that I think
[04:01] <jroach> meet the minimum memory and hd requirements
[04:01] <gogeta> osiris: but other settings stay saved
[04:01] <lstarnes> file_file: I use the official mozilla firefox icon for the launcher, but the browser itself uses shiretoko branding
[04:01] <mazda01_> ravil: yeah. i tried that, but it pasted not the link but something thta i had copied earlier. weird
[04:01] <osiris> gogeta, have you tried shutting it down via the command line ?
[04:01] <Stumpie> anyone know how I can get ubuntu to boot with Nvidia 8800gt SLI? It just stays text mode when it is supposed to load GDM, with one graphics card it works, but with both in it will only boot to text mode, and freeze... TIA
[04:01] <lstarnes> ShawnC: can you paste that and everything that came before it?
[04:02] <ShawnC> lemme try it again
[04:02] <osiris> gogeta, and have you tried logging out before shutdown / reboot ?
[04:02] <ShawnC> and then ill paste
[04:02] <gogeta> osiris: if i go in the bios and turn it back on it works
[04:02] <ShawnC> so i can get the error again
[04:02] <gogeta> osiris: untill i do a full shutdown
[04:02] <file_file> lstarnes: is that blue icon ?
[04:02] <Frank83> Jroach, Image you've got in there would be "Ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[04:02] <Stumpie> ubuntu 8.04 it worked fine, just ubuntu 8.11 and 9.04 wont boot with 8800gt with both graphics cards installed
[04:03] <jroach> yes
[04:03] <gogeta> osiris: i just reflashed them to the latest ver hopefullly this fixes it
[04:03] <lstarnes> file_file: no, the actual real firefox icon
[04:03] <lstarnes> file_file: the browser itself uses the shiretoko branding though.  Only the launchers in the menus have the firefox icon
[04:03] <Frank83> Jroach It should be 698.x Mbs, not over 700Mb
[04:03] <mzz> woo, X! Note to self: try the x-updates ppa before manually patching drivers
[04:04] <ShawnC> lstarnes: http://pastebin.ca/1527444
[04:04] <lstarnes> ShawnC: I need everything that came before the "This can be caused by:"
[04:04] <file_file> lstarnes: which command did you use "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" ??
[04:04] <Frank83> Jroach. There is a way to check if the CD you downloaded is "Okay".
[04:04] <lstarnes> file_file: exactly
[04:04] <lstarnes> file_file: but I manually edited the launchers
[04:04] <ShawnC> yes
[04:04] <ShawnC> http://pastebin.ca/1527444
[04:04] <lstarnes> ShawnC: that's the same paste
[04:05] <jroach> How?
[04:05] <ShawnC> no..
[04:05] <file_file> lstarnes: how did you edit the launcer
[04:05] <file_file> ?
[04:05] <Frank83> Jroach: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM Try that. Your download could be "Corrupted"
[04:05] <lstarnes> file_file: do you know how to edit the menus?
[04:05] <ShawnC> lstarnes: It's not the same paste....
[04:05] <jroach> I think sometimes the mac and pc filesystems read the size of discs differently
[04:05] <SuperDefenderX> !kernel
[04:05] <lstarnes> ShawnC: oops.  I just now caught that
[04:05] <ShawnC> lol
[04:05] <file_file> lstarnes: yes
[04:05] <lstarnes> ShawnC: what version of ubuntu did you upgrade to?
[04:05] <ShawnC> HUH
[04:05] <file_file> lstarnes: System>Preferences>Menu is it ??
[04:06] <ShawnC> i'm trying 8.10
[04:06] <ShawnC> as the update.
[04:06] <lstarnes> file_file: something like that
[04:06] <ShawnC> system > admin > update
[04:06] <lstarnes> file_file: you can use the menu editor to change the icons in the lauchers
[04:06] <lstarnes> ShawnC: from 8.04?
[04:06] <ShawnC> yes
[04:06] <ShawnC> Then after i get to 8.10 i'm going to update to 9.10
[04:06] <ShawnC> 9.04*
[04:06] <Frank83> JRoach. I wouldn't know about that, but sounds unlikely.
[04:06] <lstarnes> ShawnC: did you install any packages that were not from the official ubuntu repos?
[04:06] <T3CHKOMMIE> anyone know how progress is for 9.04 NBR support on the 1005HA eeepc?
[04:06] <ShawnC> yes
[04:07] <gbrethen_> sound not working on Toshiba Satellite A505
[04:07] <lstarnes> ShawnC: then that would explain the error
[04:07] <file_file> lstarnes: how ?
[04:07] <gbrethen_> using ubuntu 8.10
[04:07] <gbrethen_> 64 bit
[04:07] <ShawnC> Ok
[04:07] <ShawnC> So I have to remove all packages
[04:07] <ShawnC> that are not from the ubuntu repo's?
[04:08] <lstarnes> ShawnC: just the ones that aren't from main/restricted/universe/multiverse
[04:08] <jroach> checksum seems okay
[04:08] <gbrethen_> any ideas?
[04:08] <ShawnC> umm
[04:08] <ShawnC> lstarnes:
[04:08] <ShawnC> i have uninstall VMware etc?
[04:08] <Frank83> Jroach: I really do not understand how the image you've got is over 700mb.
[04:08] <lstarnes> ShawnC: it might be causing the upgrade to fail
[04:08] <file_file> what's the command to remove firefox 3.0.11 completely ?
[04:09] <ShawnC> fuck upgrading then.
[04:09] <jroach> one weird thing is that when I burn the disc it says that I'll need a disc with 1.3 gb of space
[04:09] <lstarnes> file_file: if you remove firefox 3.0, that will include the original firefox icon
[04:09] <kbp> file_file: how did u install it?
[04:09] <jroach> which I don't understand because the disc image is 700mb
[04:09] <gbrethen_> I need help getting my sound working
[04:09] <Revrus_> jroach, cds and disk images contain compressed files
[04:09] <jedc> can someone help me bind keys 133 to something which i can put in xmonads config as mod key?
[04:09] <file_file> lstarnes: how would i remove old firefox ?
[04:09] <lstarnes> file_file: search for shiretoko under applications > internet in the menu editor
[04:09] <Revrus_> jroach, when they are installed, they are uncompressed and put on the drive
[04:09] <lstarnes> file_file: remove the package
[04:10] <lstarnes> file_file: but I would strongly recommend keeping it
[04:10] <file_file> lstarnes: i did not install shiretoko , i will install shiretoko after removing old firefox 3.0.11
[04:10] <Frank83> Revrus_ His problem is that his MacPC is not recognizing the Ubuntu live CD as a Boot CD, so he can not install.
[04:10] <file_file> lstarnes: why do you recommend that ?
[04:10] <lstarnes> file_file: if you upgrade to 9.10 following its release, that package will most likely updage automatically to firefox 3.5 with official branding
[04:10] <lstarnes> *update
[04:11] <jroach> well its a pc that I'm trying to install it on
[04:11] <Stumpie> if you guys had all the money in the world, what Nvidia graphics card would you buy? I want to run ubuntu 9.04... I can go up to 3 graphics cards with this motherboard :D
[04:11] <dhong> hello, does anyone knowns if ubuntu support pci-e sound card?
[04:11] <jroach> i burned it on the mac
[04:11] <lstarnes> file_file: plus that package contains the original firefox icon
[04:11] <kindofabuzz> !hardware | jroach
[04:11] <Frank83> Revrus_, Still, the CD will be recognized if he puts it in his CD drive. He made a MD5SUM check, so the image is not wrong.
[04:11] <Revrus_> Frank83, its not wrong at all, everything will be fine, lol
[04:12] <dhong> anyone knowns?
[04:12] <Frank83> Jroach. Any chance you could burn it on Windows and check?
[04:12] <Erika> is it possible to use a pipe as input to the split command?
[04:12] <xubuntuNoob> Anyone know how to "enable" wireless on a dell lapotop. the drivers seem to be there.
[04:12] <jroach> he might be right
[04:12] <Revrus_> Frank83, oh, sorry, i stopped paying attention and didnt see what you said first, lol
[04:12] <jroach> the pc is a dell optiplex gxa
[04:12] <Frank83> dhong, Which is your PCI-E sound card?
[04:12] <jroach> its not on the supported list
[04:12] <vince> How do I disable IPv6 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[04:12] <madfoot> I have a problem. I'm having trouble getting my sound to work on Ubuntu 9.04 using an iMac8,1. I looked at the stickies on ubuntuforums.org, as well as the iMac page on the official Ubuntu wiki, but they seem to be saying different things and it's really confusing. :( could somebody possibly point me to the right place or give me a hint?
[04:13] <dhong> Asus Xonar DX
[04:13] <Frank83> Revrus_, No prob.
[04:13] <Frank83> Dhong, Did you try to Google "Asus Xonar DX Ubuntu" ? That might help
[04:13] <Erika> madfoot: what is an imac8,1? i really think i could help you. i just fixed the sound on my imac today
[04:14] <pcfreak30> what is the best screen capture software for linux
[04:14] <madfoot> it's one of the aluminum ones, about a year old. 8,1 is just the model number.
[04:14] <madfoot> and thanks :)
[04:14] <vince> Common I know theres some wiz in here who knows.
[04:14] <scott_ino2> pcfreak30, gtk-recordmydesktop, wink
[04:14] <Revrus_> pcfreak30, best is an opinion, go for whatever works best on your system, and what you like the best
[04:14] <Frank83> Jroach. I'm not sure why It won't recognize the live CD.
[04:14]  * Forza4Life sells imacs  ugh
[04:15] <pcfreak30> yea, but many windows ones have profecional things that zoom and stuff. any ideas on that
[04:15] <jroach> thanks
[04:16] <jroach> I tried mint and I'm going to try xubuntu and maybe another distrubution
[04:16] <Frank83> Jroach, Sorry I was unable to really help.
[04:16] <jroach> np
[04:16] <Erika> madfoot: yeah i have about a year old aluminum one. btw i really use gentoo but i just came in here to check it out. i actually read an ubuntu bug today that helped me with this problem. ill find it real quick
[04:16] <Frank83> Jroach, Last question.
[04:16] <Frank83> Jroach, you want to install Ubuntu on a Desktop, right?
[04:17] <dhong> Frnak83, I want to use this card on kernel 2.6.16. I can't get the answer from google
[04:17] <Frank83> Dhong. Let me check if I can find the answer.
[04:18] <jroach> yes
[04:18] <dhong> Frank83, thanks
[04:18] <ShawnC> HI am using ubuntu 8.04, I can't update to 8.10 because it can't calculate. Can anyone help?  (http://pastebin.ca/1527438)
[04:19] <Erika_> madfoot: you there?
[04:19] <madfoot> yep
[04:20] <Erika_> madfoot: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-786050.html?sid=3135bd9c2400d574fbd10a44687d4dd5
[04:21] <starwind> hehhehheh, so I kinda messed up both my wireless  hardwired connections, someone want to take pity on me?  :(
[04:21] <Erika_> madfoot: if you have any questions ask me. i think the alsa configuration file is called alsa-base or something in ubuntu by the way
[04:21] <gogeta> starwind: lo how so
[04:21] <Lasivian> is there a GUI webcam program for ubuntu? motion is way over my head, thanks
[04:21] <vince> Guys this is rediculous.  Everytime I stream anything and it tries to buffer it tries to use IPv6 first before giving up and going back to IPv4 but not before screwing the entire connection over and making it time out.  I could disable IPv4 in 8.10 so why is there not an easy way to do it in 9.04?
[04:21] <Frank83> dhong: Can't find any info about your Sound Card or any list of PCI-E Sound cards supported by Ubuntu.
[04:21] <gogeta> Lasivian: cheese
[04:22] <starwind> well it seems the hardwired is working right now, since im here, but under the network manager both wired and wireless options are greyed out
[04:22] <Lasivian> gogeta: yeah, that won;t put stuff on the web tho
[04:22] <gogeta> Lasivian: f-spot
[04:22] <starwind> and my laptops not connecting automatically to my network on login
[04:22] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, what exactly are you trying to do
[04:22] <gartral> could someone paste a stock /etc/netwok/interfaces file for me please?
[04:22] <Lasivian> scott_ino2: put pictures or video directly on the web
[04:22] <madfoot> Erika: yeah, I read about the alsa-base file earlier, but last time I changed it I think I messed something up >_>. Anyway, that looks helpful, thanks for the help! :D
[04:22] <dhong> Frank83, :(, thanks fro your help
[04:22] <gogeta> Lasivian: myspace built in one work in linux if thats what your up to
[04:22] <Frank83> dhong, I'll keep on searching.
[04:23] <Lasivian> gogeta: as a last resort, but I have my own site
[04:23] <gartral> perferably one that came off a system with wifi
[04:23] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, live video? or just be able to upload video??
[04:23] <Lasivian> live jpeg or video stream
[04:23] <Lasivian> either will work, it's a security camera
[04:23] <scott_ino2> ohhhhhhh
[04:23] <n1lqj> just upgraded to 9.04 from 8.10.  everything working to include wifi.  downloaded some desktop icons, decided to reboot.  "Network Manager can not find some resources and can not continue"  iwconfig shows wifi card and ifconfig shows ath0 for wifi card, any ideas would be helpful :(
[04:23] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, there's an entire project for that
[04:24] <fad> why i could not install qq.deb
[04:24] <corigo> How to stop the task bar from grouping open documents of the same application?
[04:24] <th0r> vince: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/252282/
[04:24] <scott_ino2> oh wait... you said you tried motion
[04:24] <JSmith> hi again
[04:24] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, have you tried zoneminder?
[04:24] <JSmith> zirosmith: still here? :)
[04:24] <JSmith> er, ziro something
[04:24] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, http://www.zoneminder.com/??
[04:25] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, in theory you could stream via something like justin.tv to a private channel you setup so only you can check it?
[04:25] <Lasivian> possibly
[04:25] <ziroday> JSmith: yes?
[04:25] <Lasivian> scott_ino2: I want to archive it since I can;t monitor it
[04:26] <JSmith> ziroday: sorry I was disconnected
[04:26] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, did you see zone minder though??
[04:26] <Frank83> Dhong, Still there?
[04:26] <ziroday> JSmith: sorry, I can't remember what your issue is
[04:26] <dhong> en
[04:26] <gogeta> Lasivian: vlc can also do streaming
[04:26] <JSmith> did you ever say why one would want avahi?
[04:26] <Erika_> madfoot: i'm almost positive i know exactly how to fix your problem. basically, what you want is the "options snd-hda-intel model=mbp3" in your alsa-base and then the alsamixer settings have to be right, which i explained in the forum post (thats me, skrapasor). unfortunately the sound isnt as great as it is in mac os x, but hopefully they were fix that eventually.
[04:26] <Lasivian> scott_ino2: yeah, checking into that now
[04:26] <ravimaddula> hi how to configure my bluetooth device as a n acess pt for mobile phone s to acess internet
[04:26] <ziroday> JSmith: yes, avahi is used to seamlessly discover services on your LAN.
[04:27] <Jordan_U> n1lqj: Does anything happen if you run "sudo apt-get -f install" ? ( if so please pastebin the output before saying yes to any prompts )
[04:27] <scott_ino2> Lasivian, gogeta  is right, vlc can do it, not sure about the archiving though, I think jtv can archive for you though.
[04:27] <xubuntuNoob1> Hey guys what is the easiest way to install drivers?
[04:27] <jnmbk> hi, is there a kernel parameter to prevent a module from loading at boot?
[04:27] <file_file> i first remove firefox from synaptic , then if i type "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" why do i get result like that? firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding ubufox xulrunner-1.9.1  , why is firefox 3.0 there ?
[04:27] <Frank83> Dhong: I found this. Could help you out.
[04:27] <gogeta> scott_ino2: it can
[04:27] <JSmith> what services are on my lan? I would guess all I care about is dhcp and http
[04:27] <starwind> anyone know how I can fix my network manager?
[04:28] <ziroday> JSmith: sure
[04:28] <Jordan_U> n1lqj: Does anything happen if you run "sudo apt-get -f install" ? ( if so please pastebin the output before saying yes to any prompts )
[04:28] <dhong> frank83: what
[04:28] <Erika_> madfoot: by the way, did you find it difficult to install ubuntu on your imac? i found it a huge pain to install gentoo on my imac. it took me forever to find out it doesnt support booting from an external hd, so i had to create an internal partition as the boot partition, and use this syncing tool to sync the partition tables
[04:28] <vince> th0r: Thank you, The modprob won't work in Jaunty, And the disable.ip v6 dosen't work in any of the repository kernels I can find but I never saw the 3rd option in any of my haunts.  I'll give it a try.
[04:28] <Frank83> Dhong: I found this. Could help you out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167232 (Sorry, Did not paste the link 1st time)
[04:28] <file_file> i first removed firefox from synaptic , then if i type "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" why do i get result like that? firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding ubufox xulrunner-1.9.1  , why am i prompted to install firefox 3.0 there ?
[04:28] <gogeta> starwind: dunno switch to wicd maybe
[04:28] <Jeruvy> starwind: more details pls.
[04:28] <ravimaddula> any body there to respond me
[04:29] <th0r> vince: the ubuntu jaunty notes are near the bottom of the file
[04:29] <Jordan_U> file_file: ubufox depends on ff 3.0
[04:29] <Frank83> Dhong: I found this one, too. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780170
[04:30] <JSmith> ziroday: another question for you, if you're not annoyed yet. How does the IRC channel know my ubuntu username? (seen in whois)
[04:30] <dhong> Frank83:yes, it's very helpful to me. thank you ,Frank83
[04:30] <ziroday> JSmith: you would of described it in a setting somewhere on your IRC client. Its still set to the default
[04:30] <Frank83> Dhong. No prob. Glad I could be of service.
[04:31] <starwind> I wireless kept disconnecting, after I hardwired for a few minutes so I (stupidy) deleted the autoeth connection in network manager properties and then rebooted, once I logged back in it wouldn't automatically connected to my wireless, under network manager now it shows Wired Networks and Wireless Networks grayed out and Auto eth 0 in bold, which im using now, hardwired to my router
[04:31] <Jordan_U> JSmith: Your irc client grabs info from your user automatically, you can change what is shown
[04:32] <mzz> hah! the wireless chipset in this laptop works *better* in ubuntu than it does in the preinstall winxp home!
[04:32] <JSmith> ah, I see Jordan/ziroday--I thought somehow it was being sent by a service like avahi or something
[04:32] <file_file> why am i getting this after "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" http://paste.ubuntu.com/252283/
[04:32] <vince> th0r : when I attempt to use the echo command even under sudo it comes back with permission denied.  Is there some trick to that?
[04:32] <th0r> vince: sudo should work
[04:32] <mzz> vince: which echo command?
[04:33] <brian_> i got a question  in system monitor wmhat do one do you want to be looking at as far as eating up system ra
[04:33] <file_file> after 75% , why am i getting this after "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" http://paste.ubuntu.com/252283/
[04:33] <brian_> ram
[04:33] <brian_> cpu  or momory
[04:33] <mzz> vince: are you echoing to some file in /proc/ or /sys/? sudo doesn't help you with that, unless you run the whole shell command under sudo.
[04:34]  * scott_ino2 wants to know when fullscreen flash will work under a normal amount of resources *sigh
[04:34] <th0r> mzz: that's what he is trying to do...http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/252282/
[04:34] <th0r> mzz: some notes I had on disabling ipv6
[04:34] <mzz> vince: try "sudo -i 'echo blah > /proc/sys/...'"
[04:34] <mzz> vince: assuming I remember the quoting correctly, I'm tired. sudo -i is the key.
[04:34] <JSmith> brb
[04:35] <the9a3eedi> Hi. I installed ubuntu through wubi. I understand that hibernation works by dumping the RAM contents into swap. But with wubi, ubuntu uses a swapfile I think, which is 256MB in size. I have 4GB RAM. Will hibernation work by itself or do I need to tweak some settings?
[04:35] <n1lqj> network manager crashing.  upgraded to 9.04, reboot, everything worked.  after 10 minutes network manager crashed, won't come up again on reboot, missing resources.  Very confused here.
[04:35] <Jordan_U> scott_ino2: As a work around you can browse youtube and BBC with totem, and also play flash videos by finding the temporary .flv file in /tmp
[04:35] <vince> mzz: THat might be it so I need a root terminal to begin with.  Ok
[04:35] <prefrontal> what is the executable name of System Monitor?
[04:35] <file_file> after 75% , why am i getting this after "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" http://paste.ubuntu.com/252283/
[04:35] <scott_ino2> Jordan_U, yeah... i know ty.... i just deal with it
[04:35] <mzz> vince: you don't need a full root shell *session*, but you need to run the shell as root for ">" to work
[04:35] <agent_smith666> anyone know about changing the "loading screen" for jaunty?
[04:35] <mzz> prefrontal: gnome-system-monitor
[04:35] <Jordan_U> scott_ino2: If you have an intel card it might also help to downgrade the intel driver
[04:36] <smithTest> it seems to have worked
[04:36] <prefrontal> ksysguard nm
[04:36] <ziroday> agent_smith666: pick a new usplash theme
[04:36] <scott_ino2> Jordan_U, ATI here...
[04:36] <scott_ino2> and honestly... can't wait for 3D to be supported by non fglrx drivers.. which should be soon for my card
[04:36] <mzz> file_file: bad mirror, most likely. Or bad http proxy between you and the mirror.
[04:36] <n1lqj> agent_smith666 in previous versions it was an apt-get package to install it, might be a hint there, don't know answer
[04:36] <agent_smith666> ziroday- is that in prefs?
[04:36] <vince> mzz : i tried sudo -i echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
[04:36] <vince> Same thing
[04:36] <file_file> mzz: what to do now ?
[04:37] <xubuntuNoob1> anyone had experience with "enabling" the wireless on a dell 120L?
[04:37] <ziroday> agent_smith666: no, install startup-manager (SUM) and then download a new usplash theme to install it
[04:37] <scott_ino2> the open source drivers perform much better and don't wreck suspend.. you know.. minus that whole 3D acceleration thing
[04:37] <mzz> file_file: try a different mirror (I don't know how to force that, other than by changing it in /etc/apt/sources.list). There's also a switch to get it to be more verbose about http, but I forgot what it is.
[04:37] <Stumpie> where can I chech and see if a GeForce® GTX 275 OCX™ 896 MB GDDR3  is compatible with ubuntu 9.04? thanks :)
[04:37]  * mzz should be asleep...
[04:37] <agent_smith666> ziroday- thanks.  for some reason the ubuntu studio load screen went away and now its the default one so hopefullly the startup-manager will fix this
[04:37] <Stumpie> check^
[04:37] <mzz> vince: yes, the quotes I used mattered. At the very least you need to escape the ">" from your current shell.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> vince: sudo -i starts an interactive shell, you want "echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ip46/conf/all/disable_ipv6"
[04:38] <smithTest> ziroday/Jordan: how does it get the hostname now?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> vince: But you might want to see if the real problem with your ipv6 is your DNS server. Have you tried opendns?
[04:39] <mzz> vince: what Jordan_U said is a nice trick.
[04:39] <mzz> (both things he said are, actually)
[04:39] <Guest54130> Hi
[04:39] <Guest54130> I had a quick question about limits.conf
[04:39] <smithTest> I see that ziroday put a webpage instead of a hostname in his whois
[04:40] <ben_> How can I set the default limits
[04:40] <ben_> for a user when they log in?
[04:40] <ctmjr> Stumpie: my son has 2 gtx 280's in a debian box he had one in a ubuntu box never heard him complain
[04:40] <ben_> I was pretty sure I did it with limits.conf
[04:40] <Stumpie> Cool, thanks :)
[04:41] <fluurp> test
[04:41] <fluurp> passed
[04:41] <vince> Ok guys trying that now then
[04:41] <smithTest> ziroday: did you supply your hostname via an option in your client, or can it be requested from your host somehow?
[04:41] <vince> Ok guys that worked
[04:42] <vince> Now to see if IPv6 is disabled
[04:42] <ubuntulane79> hi
[04:42] <ToStItOs> jtaji: Question for you
[04:42] <ubuntulane79> i need some help with effects
[04:42] <xc88> I'm on jaunty, my max resolution is 800x600 but it should be 1600x1200. I used to be able to modify xorg.conf, but now the file is much shorter and the entire section with resolutions and refresh rates is gone! How do I get the right resolution?
[04:42] <vince> Do I need to restart for a change like that to take effect?
[04:43] <ubuntulane79> i am running a virtual machine and i have 3d acceleration but the effects wont turn on
[04:44] <Jordan_U> xc88: You can add the resolution sections the same way you could before, but if you aren't getting full resolution it's probably because of driver problems, so those sections wouldn't help anyway
[04:44] <Jordan_U> xc88: What GFX card are you using?
[04:44] <ubuntulane79> a nvidia geforce 7050
[04:44] <jtaji> ToStItOs: what's up?
[04:45] <xc88> Jordan_U: ATI X1550. That's another issue, when I go into the restricted drivers window, nothing shows up. I used to be able to install the ATI drivers easily
[04:45] <madfoot> kind of a nooby question, but How do I get to alsamixer?
[04:45] <ToStItOs> jtaji: I ordered a external modem but how do I set it up through gnome ppp
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xc88: I think ATI dropped support for your card in the latest version of their proprietary driver
[04:45] <jtaji> ToStItOs: oh... I haven't actually used a dial-up modem in like 10 years ;)
[04:46] <ctmjr> madfoot: in a terminal type  alsamixer
[04:46] <xc88> crap...now what
[04:46] <madfoot> ctmjr: thanks :)
[04:46] <ToStItOs> jtaji: all I need to know is when I connect my modem to the RS232 do I have to do a detect on the modem
[04:47] <ubuntulane79> can anyone help me?
[04:47] <ToStItOs> with gnome ppp
[04:47] <ctmjr> madfoot: your welcome there is a gui for it but do not remember the name
[04:47] <Jordan_U> xc88: Let's see if we can get the open source drivers working properly. Can you pastebin the your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[04:47] <jim__> using wget gets me the first page of a site, but how do I get the entire site ?
[04:48] <erika1984> today i tried kde desktop on ubuntu
[04:48] <erika1984> it is not a very friendly desktop
[04:48] <kbp> xc88: how about forcing it using the config file? i.e. just leave 1 mode in the modes: "1600x1200" and remove all other modes
[04:49] <ToStItOs> jtaji: I have a winmodem now so I do I get gnome ppp to recognize the external modem?
[04:49] <xc88> kbp: the thing is I have no modes at all
[04:49] <jim__> what is the command using wget to download all the pages of a site ?
[04:49] <ubuntulane79> is it possible to force to enable the effects
[04:49] <kbp> xc88: want me to pastebin the section screen?
[04:49] <erika1984> finally got kde uninstalled
[04:49] <ubuntulane79> is it possible to force enable the effects
[04:50] <vince> mzz or Jordan_U sorry didn't type your names.  After that command do I need to restart the PC?
[04:50] <vince> God this is so ()#$* frustrating
[04:50] <jtaji> ToStItOs: change the device to the serial port device, which are /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1, etc...
[04:51] <xc88> kbp: check it out, this is my xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.ca/1527501
[04:51] <J-_> Is there anyway to remove installed dependencies? I've tried purging with apt-get and not all the things installed are going to get removed.
[04:51] <kbp> http://pastebin.ca/1527501
[04:51] <jtaji> ToStItOs: these correspond to windows COM1, COM2....
[04:52] <ToStItOs> jtaji: I am changing the device through gnome ppp?
[04:52] <jtaji> ToStItOs: yeah I'm looking at a screen shot and there is a Device entry which shows /dev/modem in the screenshot
[04:52] <SUPREMO> HOLAS
[04:52] <SUPREMO> COMO ESTAN TODOS
[04:52] <ToStItOs> jtaji: which is what I have
[04:53] <ctmjr> !es | SUPREMO
[04:53] <mzz> vince: other way around: if you restart the pc it'll have forgotten. You probably want /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:53] <xim_> where does ubuntu store panels and panel icons?  i just tried to add 'topshelf' and it fried all my icons and menus.  i have all my .settings backed up recently but i dont know which has my panel icons init
[04:54] <mzz> xim_: somewhere in gconf
[04:54] <kbp> xc88: wait for a sec I will copy & paste the config for you
[04:54] <ToStItOs> jtaji: once that is changed there is no other confirguration I have to do?
[04:54] <vince> mzz: Well then it didn't work anyway.  The flag is set to 1 but ip a | grep inet6 still outputs IPv6 crap.
[04:55] <superGear> yall might want to ban soulslord
[04:55] <vince> And the connection is still laggy as hell.
[04:55] <jtaji> ToStItOs: not sure
[04:55] <ToStItOs> jtaji: looks like something I need to play with
[04:55] <xim_> mzz: is gconf a folder?  i was hoping to be able to just replace a settings directory
[04:56] <ToStItOs> jtaji: thanks for the info anyway
[04:56] <vince> I hate to say it but i'm either going to have to downgrade back to 8.10 or just load windows back in (which I DON'T want to do) but darnet i'm not paying to use 10% of my pipe and wait for stuff
[04:57] <vince> Frankly I can't belive they did this with Jaunty.  Such a boneheaded move.
[04:57] <ToStItOs> vince what do you mean
[04:57] <kbp> xc88: http://pastebin.ca/1527510 remember to change the modes (especially depth 16)
[04:58] <mzz> xim_: yes. I don't think replacing that entire tree is sane. Also, I should be asleep, so I'm not going to dig in and figure out which subtree(s) you want.
[04:59] <xim_> mzz k i thought gconf was a program for editing config files
[04:59] <the9a3eedi> Hi. I installed ubuntu through wubi. I understand that hibernation works by dumping the RAM contents into swap. But with wubi, ubuntu uses a swapfile I think, which is 256MB in size. I have 4GB RAM. Will hibernation work by itself or do I need to tweak some settings?
[04:59] <xc88> thanks kbp, ill see if this works
[04:59] <fartbooger> stuck at a recovery prompt. I have 3 diffrent HDs by 3 diffrent manufacturers is there a way I can go from /dev/sda -> name of the manufacturer?
[05:00] <jtaji> the9a3eedi: it's not going to work at all, you need a real install or at least a real swap partition >= 4GB
[05:00] <vince> ToStIt0s : IPv6.  You can't disable it in jaunty without recompiling the kernel.  In every other version of Ubuntu you could just shut it off.  Because we use IPv4 here it makes the connection dog slow.  Its ok sometimes but if the internet gets congested or i'm trying to stream something it is flat out unusable!
[05:00] <mzz> xim_: gconf-editor is an app for editing gconf (a vaguely register-ish thing) settings. Poke around in that and/or look in ~/.gconf (but notice editing ~/.gconf by hand while logged in is unhealthy)
[05:01] <xim_> mzz, alrighty, thanks
[05:01] <the9a3eedi> jtaji: I see. that sucks. I only used wubi because I have limited space and I wanted ubuntu to be easily "transferrable" to another hard disk when I needed more space. oh well
[05:01] <ToStItOs> vince wow thats a disappointment
[05:01] <tehdot> I just set up ubuntu on an hp dv7 laptop with nvidia 9600m GT. Can't get through HDMI. Ideas?
[05:02] <xim_> vince: isnt ipv6 backward compatible?  are you sure the problem isnt something else?
[05:02] <the9a3eedi> jtaji: anyways thanks for the tip.
[05:02] <kbp> xc88: you are welcome. I couldnt copy and paste all the full config because it was a server. I'm not sure if other parts are differnt to desktop verion but pretty sure that section is the same for both desktop/server
[05:03] <vince> xim_ Every other version of ubuntu you disable IPv6 and its fast agian.  I don't think so.  If you do a google search you'll see its a well known issue.
[05:03] <xim_> but i never used jaunty, i skipped from hardy to karmic alpha
[05:03] <xim_> vince, oh ok
[05:03] <roxan> what is the page that list all the alpha and beta release of karmic
[05:03] <ctmjr> tehdot: did you install any drivers yet? or no gui at all?
[05:04] <xim_> roxan, its all alpha right now, just google for daily build, also it has a channel #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <tehdot> ctmjr, I installed the nvidia proprietary drivers
[05:04] <ToStItOs> vince: You might need to email the develpment team about that issue
[05:04] <Jordan_U> vince: Have you tried using opendns?
[05:04] <roxan> xim_: I know about that. But there generally is a page with every release thatl ists important date of all alpha and beta release
[05:04] <vince> I'm just pissed, I've invested a lot in Jaunty and this is such a boneheaded thing to have screw it over.  I'm not a programmer however and I have no idea how to add headers or compile a kernel.  For something thats supposed to be about choice I don't see why they had to take the "choice" to disable IPv6 away from us.
[05:05] <ToStItOs> vince: I see your point
[05:05] <xim_> roxan, oh i dont konw
[05:05] <mzz> roxan: karmic schedule page on the wiki, should be googleable
[05:06] <vince> ToStIt0s : theres already a bug report open.  And several people have complained about it.  The development team dosen't seem all that interested in fixing it or allowing the fixes to be put in the mainstream repositories.
[05:06] <kindofabuzz> vince, what? you can disable ipv6
[05:06] <roxan> mzeal: yes it is. thanks.
[05:06] <ctmjr> tehdot: and the hdmi does not work but vga does?
[05:06] <lancerocke> hi all. whats the best way to backup my firefox directory? cp ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak?
[05:06] <Jashman2> any prolog programmers in here?
[05:06] <vince> kindofabuzz: In jaunty?  Sir if you tell me how and it works you will be my hero
[05:06] <tehdot> ctmjr, video works through hdmi, but no sound
[05:06] <jtaji> lancerocke: cp -a
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> vince, is it not the same as other releases?
[05:07] <vince> Ive spend days in here and in the forums and not gotten anyware
[05:07] <lancerocke> jtaji, thanks cp  -a ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak?
[05:07] <jtaji> lancerocke: yes
[05:07] <Stumpie> I have the choice of a XFX or a ZOTAC GTX 295, 1792MB grahphics cards... who would you guys choose for Ubuntu 9.04 XFX or ZOTAC? it is exactly the same price.
[05:07] <ToStItOs> vince: but why I wonder that really doesn't make a whole lotta sense
[05:07] <vince> kindofabuzz: No... In 8.10 and lower you can just shut off the module, In 9.04 its built into the kernel by default
[05:07] <lancerocke> jtaji, thanks
[05:08] <ctmjr> tehdot: oh now i got ya i do not know if they fixed that yet hold on a sec are you using an hdmi cable or dvi to hdmi?
[05:08] <Jashman2> general question... how's ubuntu for gaming these days?
[05:08] <kindofabuzz> vince, oh didn't know that. using firefox? just shut it off in about:config
[05:09] <tehdot> ctmjr, hdmi
[05:09] <Bob_Dole> anything in the way of improvements for Chrome 9 3D accel recently? (it sucked last I checked)
[05:09] <jtaji> Jashman2: linux games run just fine of course ;)
[05:09] <kindofabuzz> Jashman2, linux games run fine, windows games you'd have to check the Wine AppDB
[05:09] <c4pt> lol
[05:09] <Stumpie> I got cedega, so I get lots of great games in linux 8)
[05:10] <c4pt> k-line
[05:10] <CorpX> lol
[05:10] <Jashman2> do you guys know if starcraft 2 will have a linux release?
[05:10] <Jashman2> upon intial release  :o
[05:10] <CorpX> i reported him
[05:10] <CorpX> he's a pm spammer
[05:11] <Stumpie> Jashman2, if it does not, I bet  it will be supported by WINE, they really did a great, and fast job with WOW and other blizzard titles
[05:11] <Jashman2> what's WINE? some sort of interface between windows and linux games?
[05:11] <ctmjr> tehdot: try this if it does not work let me know http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967023
[05:11] <fluurp> wine is not an emulator ;)
[05:11] <Bob_Dole> Jashman2, WINE is a compatibility layer allowing various windows apps to run on linux
[05:12] <CorpX> lol
[05:12] <CorpX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29
[05:12] <lstarnes> Jashman2: it's a compatiblity layer
[05:12] <Stumpie> Jashman2,  WINE lets you run some windows applications... it is somewhat like an emulator. it is a compatibility layer
[05:12] <fluurp> i prefer IN-compatible :(
[05:12] <kindofabuzz> vince, http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html but read the comments, don't know if it really works or not
[05:12] <Jashman2> helpful responses, thanks
[05:13] <Jashman2> thinking about switching over to ubuntu... need to make an informed decision :p
[05:13] <kindofabuzz> Jashman2, switch to linux, you'll love the power and ability to do anything, you won't have time for gaming. =)
[05:13] <Bob_Dole> Jashman2, I mostly use it to run the windows versions of flash and firefox, because windows flash is faster for whatever reason. It's a known common issue that adobe hasn't fixed yet D:
[05:13] <Stumpie> Jashman2, try a WUBI install, and see if you can get all of your favorite applications working in wine before you make a decesion
[05:13] <WaffylesYay> or dualboot and run both....just as easy
[05:14] <ben_> Hello
[05:14] <ben_> I was wondering if anyone was familiar with setting open file limits with limits.conf
[05:14] <Jashman2> yeah I'll probably dual boot... any major issues with that?
[05:14] <kindofabuzz> I've noticed this about Flash, having DDR ram helps alot. on my main box flash is crappy, old ram. on my laptop, flash is flawless, ddr ram. /shrug
[05:14] <ctmjr> wubi = headaches
[05:15] <vince> kinsofabuzz : I need it off systemwide.
[05:15] <Bob_Dole> kindofabuzz, I have DDR2 PC6400 RAM. it's very slow on any flash heavy sites, while the windows binaries run it fine under WINE.
[05:15] <WaffylesYay> @Jashman2. Ubuntu comes with a dual boot tool that autoconfigures, i forget the name of it. Really easy to do. I boot to Windows 7 or Ubuntu
[05:15] <tehdot> ctmjr, doesn't work. Doesn't throw any errors, but when I test it I get no sound.
[05:16] <kindofabuzz> Bob_Dole, works great on my laptop and only have 512, 1G on my main rig. can't even full screen on main rig
[05:16] <pod773> hi
[05:16] <fluurp> WaffylesYay u mean grub? is it grub?
[05:16] <WaffylesYay> yea thats it
[05:17]  * kindofabuzz rolls eyes
[05:17] <kindofabuzz> =)
[05:17] <Jashman2> thanks waffyles... I'll be installing ubuntu when I finally get around to ordering a new laptop
[05:17] <Bob_Dole> kindofabuzz, odd. I have 4GB, I'll probably be using this as my main rig for 2-3 years though. But by flash heavy, I mean up to 15 of moderately "intensive" flash apps up at once on the same page.
[05:17] <malek> Hi - I'm having trouble with a USB-connected hard drive.  It frequently drops off and has to be remounted by the system.  This happens automatically, but any applications open cannot write to it until they're restarted, or the file reopened.  Any ideas?  Kernel log points to a "Buffer I/O error".
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> Bob_Dole, if i see flash heavy sites I move on, web designers should just stay away from flash
[05:18] <vince> kindofabuzz : Yep did that already.
[05:18] <WaffylesYay> Jashman2 you can TRY Ubuntu WITHOUT installing it! There is an option that enables you to run it off the install CD. This is called a linux "Live CD" Try before u install
[05:18] <kbp> kindofabuzz: except one case: flash games
[05:18] <Bob_Dole> kindofabuzz, I do agree, but this site wasn't flash heavy in '06, and I've been on it since '04 :(
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> vince, just turn ipv6 off in Firefox
[05:18] <kindofabuzz> easy
[05:18] <mneptok> Bob_Dole: Flash advertisements?
[05:18] <ctmjr> tehdot: ok run aplay -l in a terminal see if it found your card and are you on 9.04 or something else? i had 9.04 and could not get it to work along with other problems went back to 8.10
[05:19] <Jashman2> oh damn, nice waffyles thanks, will try that
[05:19] <Bob_Dole> mneptok, no, site features.
[05:19] <mneptok> Bob_Dole: Flash is a "feature" like herpes is a feature
[05:19] <kindofabuzz> what are advertisements?
[05:19] <fluurp> lol
[05:19] <Jashman2> anyone web dev's out there familiarizing themselves with HTML5? looks like it has immense potential - could make flash obsolete as an RIA platform
[05:19] <masiddiqui> hello
[05:19] <tehdot> ctmjr, shows both analog and digital for it. I'm running 9.04
[05:19] <vince> kindofabuzz : Need it off systemwide
[05:20] <Bob_Dole> mneptok, This site was at it's peak in '06..before all the flash, before skittles apparently bought a large part of their company, etc.
[05:20] <kindofabuzz> vince, compiling your own kernel is not that hard really. good tutorials are out there.
[05:20] <masiddiqui> is there a book on ubuntu 9.04
[05:20] <mneptok> Bob_Dole: sudo apt-get install flashblock
[05:21] <Jordan_U> vince: Looks like the fix to allow disabling ipv6 will be in the next kernel update, you can also install the latest stable kernel ( 2.6.30 ) from a .deb package, or the first method from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 should still work, though it will not persist between boots ( unless you set the command to run at boot ). I would still try using opendns first if you havn't yet
[05:22] <vince> Jordan_U DNS isn't the issue so much as the translation is.  THe issue is my ISP dosen't support IPv6. Swiching DNS's does not help
[05:22] <ctmjr> tehdot: ok lets see if it works do you have mplayer installed?
[05:22] <kindofabuzz> masiddiqui, there are several. here's one: http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0137021208/ref=pd_sim_b_1
[05:23] <tehdot> yes
[05:23] <tehdot> ctmjr, yes
[05:23] <Schmitty> twat did you say
[05:23] <kindofabuzz> masiddiqui, http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[05:23] <vince> Jordan_U where would I get the .deb for the kernel and would that also autoconfigure grub to use it?
[05:23] <merma> n
[05:24] <kindofabuzz> what do you want to block ipv6 anyways? i guess there is a reason, just curious
[05:24] <Jordan_U> vince: I'll get the link for you, and yes it would
[05:25] <mneptok> Schmitty: i said "you shouldn't repeat words you hear older kids using on the school bus"
[05:25] <kindofabuzz> Jordan_U, vince  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/
[05:25] <sn_1> hey do u guys kno the apt-get command to install the broadcom b43 wireless driver?
[05:25] <ScottG> What do these messages about stack depth mean? "X used greatest stack depth: 4824 bytes left"
[05:25] <sn_1> when i manually do it in hardware it doesn't work
[05:25] <Jordan_U> sn_1: "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[05:25] <mneptok> sn_1: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[05:25] <vince> Thanks kindofabuzz.... I'll give this a try and let you guys know
[05:26] <Pranky> Hello All, Command to run iso file from terminal to install 9.04.
[05:26] <Jordan_U> sn_1: Though technically it's just installing the firmware, the driver comes with ubuntu
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Pranky: What do you mean by "run iso file" ?
[05:26] <sn_1> thx jordan
[05:27] <Jordan_U> Pranky: Do you want to burn an iso file to a CD/DVD?
[05:27] <ctmjr> tehdot: open mplayer go to preferences and audio tab choose alsa then configure driver change device to hw=1.3 or what aply -l shows for your card then try to play a file
[05:27] <Jordan_U> sn_1: np
[05:27] <Pranky> Jordan_U, Without burning to CD/DVD could I install it or not?
[05:27] <kbp> Jordan_U: he means is there any program make a "virtual DVD rom" and insert the iso file and install directly?
[05:28] <sn_1> mneptok: the problem is that when i did that at first, i canceld the driver from downloading/inSTAlling and ever since it wont install
[05:28] <vince> kinkofabuzz : Ok of all these files which one do I want?  I know I want a generic i386 but one is 598k and the other is 24megs and they appear to be the same versions
[05:28] <vince> or do I need the headers and the image?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> Pranky: There is no straightforeward way to install without burning and booting from the CD but it is possible ( probably not worth the hassle though )
[05:29] <cbcbilling> hello all
[05:29] <Pranky> Jordan_U, please provide me the url how
[05:30] <tehdot> ctmjr, in aplay, it shows them both as card 0, subdevice 0
[05:30] <Jordan_U> sn_1: Then what you probably want ( if apt-get install didn't work ) is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure b43-fwcutter"
[05:30] <cbcbilling> is there anyoone who can help me with the incident of firefox brokn package
[05:30] <cbcbilling> how to fix it
[05:30] <darkangel> does anyone know a good program or way to compress a .iso file
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Pranky: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/
[05:31] <mneptok> darkangel: bzip2
[05:31] <cbcbilling> please help me
[05:31] <seanius_> is there a netboot-able live image for the netbook remix?
[05:31] <WaffylesYay> @darkangel try WinRAR
[05:31] <badboy_> boa noite
[05:31] <seanius_> i just got my hands on an hp mini but i don't have the reinstall media
[05:31] <mneptok> WaffylesYay: seeing that this is #ubuntu, a Windows app is not a great suggestion
[05:31] <Berzerker> you can use a USB flash drive
[05:32] <darkangel> mneptok: they are .iso dvd videos and im trying to compress them as well as be able to watch them
[05:32] <Berzerker> to install the netbook remix (running it on a HP Mini 110) right now
[05:32] <darkangel> im not looking to just compress and store them
[05:32] <WaffylesYay> Ah good point....i fail
[05:32] <Berzerker> right now)*
[05:32] <jason____> I have a large file that I want to move between directories on the same partition.  Can I just make a hardlink to it in the new directory and rm the one in the old directory?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> darkangel: Do you want to fit more onto a CD, or do you want to have your .iso file take up less space on your hard drive?
[05:32] <mneptok> darkangel: so you want to compress video.
[05:32] <seanius_> Berzerker: that's what i got actually (110-1036)
[05:32] <mneptok> darkangel: ffmpeg is one
[05:32] <rww> jason____: that's essentially the same thing as doing mv oldlocation newlocation =/
[05:32] <cbcbilling> help with broken packages how to fix
[05:32] <Jordan_U> jason____: Why not use mv?
[05:32] <darkangel> yes i want to compress video, i want the .iso to take up less space
[05:32] <Berzerker> seanius_: 1035* you mean?
[05:33] <Berzerker> seanius_: I have the 1030. works flawlessly on mine. never going back to windows. :P
[05:33] <seanius_> Berzerker: 110-1036NR
[05:33] <Berzerker> seanius_: strange. what's different about it than the 1035?
[05:33] <seanius_> Berzerker: great to hear.  no problems with soundcard or wired nic?
[05:33] <jason____> rww, Jordan_U, it's my experience that mv for some reason takes a long time to execute for large files - maybe this is just me being insane.
[05:33] <mneptok> darkangel: you compress the video stored inside the image file. at that point the .iso is pointless. you'll end up with an .mpg or .avi video file.
[05:33] <Berzerker> seanius_: haven't tried wired NIC, sound works after an alsa update to 1.0.20
[05:33] <Jordan_U> jason____: That should work ( check the number of hard links in ls -l before you unlink the "old file" ).
[05:33] <seanius_> Berzerker: it might just be the color :)
[05:33] <ctmjr> tehdot: if you do not show a hdmi card it is not getting loaded can you pastebin the output of aplay -l please?
[05:33] <rww> jason____: that's not my experience, and wouldn't really make sense. Are you thinking of cp?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> jason____: It only takes time between file systems
[05:33] <Berzerker> seanius_: I use wireless, so yeah.
[05:34] <Berzerker> question: is there a way to make the "lock" function work like windows, where it brings you back to the login screen? kinda like fast user switching
[05:34] <seanius_> Berzerker: so are you running jaunty or the bleeding edge or some mix?
[05:34] <darkangel> mneptok: and how would i go about doing that???
[05:34] <Jordan_U> jason____: It's instant within a file system
[05:34] <jason____> rww, Jordan_U, er, so it does.  OK, mv worked fine, although it's nice to know that I now understand something I didn't.  Thanks.
[05:34] <Berzerker> seanius_: jaunty dl from ubuntu.com
[05:34] <mneptok> darkangel: ffmpeg is one method. VLC is another.
[05:35] <darkangel> mneptok: just shrinking the video file, alright i have vlc but it wont compress or change any .iso that are already on my computer
[05:35] <seanius_> Berzerker: standard install or netbook remix?  (sorry for pummeling you with questions btw :)
[05:35] <Berzerker> seanius_: this is my only means of internet right now, I was trying to run moblin, that OS looks sweet, but it just wouldn't boot, so I settled for this, but it's working fantastic for me
[05:35] <Berzerker> seanius_: netbook remix
[05:35] <Pranky> Jordan_U, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Berzerker: You can get to the login screen by clicking "switch user" from the lock screen
[05:35] <Pranky> Jordan_U, Is this link is helpful fo me
[05:35] <seanius_> excellent, sounds like i got the right model then :)
[05:35] <tehdot> ctmjr, http://pastebin.com/d8157d78
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Pranky: Are you trying to upgrade or install from scratch?
[05:36] <Berzerker> Jordan_U: any way to do that more quickly? like with a keyboard shortcut in one go?
[05:36] <Pranky> Jordan_U, Already install 9.04, but few dependencies are corrupt. So I need to install again.
[05:36] <Berzerker> seanius_: well you have the 1036, w/e the difference between that and the 1035 is lol but I think the only difference between yours and mine (1030) is the network card. you have a BCom 4315, I have a 13
[05:37] <Schmitty> how do I browse a cd in shell?
[05:37] <Berzerker> seanius_: I mean, I see the wired networking option available to be checked/unchecked in the settings, so it looks like it works
[05:37] <Berzerker> Schmitty: /media
[05:37] <Jordan_U> Pranky: What do you mean "a few dependencies are corrupt"? There may be a way to solve your problem without re-installing
[05:37] <Berzerker> Schmitty: cdrom0
[05:37] <emma> ATTENTION all Ubuntu users. If you are using Ubuntu while browing the internet and it crashes. DO NOT SEND the apport bug report. It will send your private information (gmail passwords etc) to the Ubuntu devs.
[05:37] <Pranky> Jordan_U, ok, I ll send you the pastebin, have a look.
[05:37] <Schmitty> thanks Berzerker
[05:38] <emma> I am sure that someone will try to silence me soon. I am telling you the truth. Look into it.
[05:38] <Berzerker> Schmitty: np
[05:38] <seanius_> Berzerker: thanks for all the info.  i'll let you know how it goes
[05:38]  * Berzerker tries to silence emma.
[05:38] <Berzerker> :D
[05:38]  * Lafitte- sliences emma 
[05:38] <emma> UBUNTU USERS --- If you are using Ubuntu and browing the web. If firefox crashes on you DO NOT SEND THE APORT BUG REPORT. It will send your pivate data to the Ubuntu devs. You do not want them having your gmail passwords, etc.
[05:38] <lstarnes> emma: do you have definitive evidence of that?
[05:39] <mzz> emma: got any information to back that up?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> emma: Nobody is going to try to silence you unless you start trolling. Have you filed a bug report against apport?
[05:39] <Stumpie> !ubuntu 9.04 compatiblity guide
[05:39] <Berzerker> seanius_: I probably won't be here, just here to ask a question, but gl anyway. if you need help you can email me if you want it
[05:39]  * Lafitte- kicks emma from #Ubuntu
[05:39] <Bracha> anyone know what it means when you've downloaded the codecs to play WMV movies but they still don't, every time i try and play one the window opens and just closes, this is on mplayer and vlc
[05:39] <emma> I think this is urgent that people know this. I urge everyone to be cautious and to spread this informaiton and for all who can adress it to fix this because it is egregious and unacceptable.
[05:39] <rb789> can someone help me make my sprint mobile work on my new dell mini? I am stuck at last step
[05:40] <Pranky> Jordan_U, http://ww.pastebin.com/m744ea145. Have a look
[05:40] <mzz> emma: can you link to a bug report or whatever about this problem, or one it occurred in?
[05:40] <lstarnes> emma: we need proof of this before we can reasonably accept that
[05:40] <ctmjr> tehdot: ok you do not have the hdmi card loaded you  have to install the nvidia drivers from their website the new drivers have the hdmi audio
[05:40] <kbp> emma: I will check once I get home today
[05:40] <mzz> emma: you'll stand a better chance of something actually being done about this with those
[05:40] <Berzerker> Jordan_U: btw there is no option to go to the login screen in the lock screen
[05:40] <emma> mzz No because apport is kept 'private' for just this reason. But why would the ubuntu devs think that we would be okay with them seeing our private data?
[05:40] <tehdot> ctmjr, ah, ok
[05:40] <ziroday> emma: all apport bugs are marked as private by default, only members of bug control can view them. Secondly apport requests you review the information you are about to pass onto the developers before it actually does it.
[05:40] <Berzerker> Jordan_U: unless I'm misinterpretting what you're saying
[05:40] <mzz> emma: (just complaining about it in some irc channel with zero backup of your claims is not a good way to get something fixed)
[05:41] <Schmitty> hey Berzerker, when I go to /media , there is nothing there
[05:41] <mzz> emma: I'm new to ubuntu, haven't hit apport yet, let me poke it
[05:41] <emma> ziroday -- I know some people on the bug team. Some of them sure as hell are people I would not want knowing my gmail password.
[05:41]  * mzz kill -9s a test firefox
[05:41] <emma> mzz -- be cautious.
[05:41] <lstarnes> emma: does it send the full binary crash dump of firefox when it crashes?
[05:41] <ziroday> mzz: you need to have apport debugging enabled
[05:41] <Guest9087133> http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?94258
[05:41] <Guest9087133> http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?94258
[05:41] <FloodBot3> Guest9087133: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <emma> mzz -- this is not some random channel this is #ubuntu and this will get things rolling.
[05:41] <mzz> emma: still, you should file a bug about this, and/or provide evidence (steps to trigger an apport report with information in it that shouldn't be there)
[05:41] <Berzerker> Schmitty: hmm....it's where mine is when I look for it. I'm not particularly experienced with ubuntu, so I'm not the best person to ask.
[05:41] <kbp> emma: how did you find out? wireshark?
[05:42] <Schmitty> thanx Berzerker
[05:42] <emma> kbp -- I prefer not to say how I discovered this. I have sources.
[05:42] <SmithX> hey team
[05:42] <emma> I do not want to impune them.
[05:42] <SmithX> newbie question incoming
[05:42] <tehdot> ctmjr, thanks for the help
[05:42] <Jordan_U_> emma: This is not the place to "get things rolling". The way to get this "rolling" is to file a bug report against apport
[05:42] <Berzerker> SmithX: Duck!
[05:42] <lstarnes> emma: your claims cannot be verified without valid, undeniable proof
[05:43] <SmithX> I'm using a distribution where only the root user can hear sound in firefox
[05:43] <emma> I want the people in here who are capable of seeing this for themselves to do something abou tit. And I want all Ubuntu users (many of them who are so trusting they don't even realize they are not on ubuntu servers right now but freenode) to not send any aport bug reports with firefox.
[05:43] <SmithX> anyone know how I can fix that so regular users can hear sound too?
[05:43] <vince> emma: No one here is going to try and silence you.  If theres a bug we defiantly want to know about it.    Furthermore if the information is being sent in a format easily seen this could easily be the fault of the crashing application not obscuring the data well enough rather than an issue with the bug reporting software.  If there isn't a bug filed on it already we would highly encourage you to do so.  This way it can be fixed :-)
[05:43] <fluurp> lol youtube is not a "source"
[05:43] <rb789> Can anyone help me with setting up sprint mobile connection? I got the connection set up but internet won't work
[05:43]  * Lafitte- has joined #Ubuntu
[05:43] <malek> Hi - I'm having trouble with a USB-connected hard drive.  It frequently drops off and has to be remounted by the system.  This happens automatically, but any applications open cannot write to it until they're restarted, or the file reopened.  Any ideas?  Kernel log points to a "Buffer I/O error".
[05:43] <kbp> vince: if this is true, it's not a bug, someone did it for purpose
[05:43] <Berzerker> fluurp: it is too! wikipedia said so
[05:44] <Schmitty> how do i browse a cd or dvd in shell
[05:44] <emma> No let's be clear --- they mark the aport stuff private because THEY KNOW it contains private data like gmail passwords etc. But why on earth would they think that we want or trust ubuntu devs to see that information??
[05:44] <ctmjr> tehdot: your welcome good luck the install direction from nvidia are very good the driver comes with an installer
[05:44] <Jordan_U_> SmithX: Is your user a member of the "audio" group ?
[05:44] <Pranky> Jordan_U, Did you find any good news?
[05:44] <lstarnes> Schmitty: you have to mount it first
[05:44] <SmithX> never heard of an "audio" group--let me check
[05:44] <kbp> emma: how did you get the source code? :)
[05:44] <emma> In otherwords it is not like they don't know this. They know this full well. They just assume that we should trust them to know it.
[05:44] <lstarnes> emma: I'm not sure if those devs are legally bound by a Non-Disclosure Agreement
[05:44] <Schmitty> lstarnes: how do i mount it?
[05:44] <fload> just did apt-get install firefox-3.5 installed fine but icons still start up old version...
[05:45] <Stumpie> is there a list of supported Nvidia graphics cards with ubuntu 9.04?
[05:45] <fluurp> oh, it rly does ^^
[05:45] <fload> did i do it wrong?
[05:45] <lstarnes> Schmitty: sudo mount /media/cdrom /dev/cdrom
[05:45] <ziroday> emma: discussing the technical merits and issues of apport is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:45] <emma> lstarnes -- I dont want anyone on the bug squad or any ubuntu dev or any one at all to know my online passwords.
[05:45] <lstarnes> Schmitty: er, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[05:45] <jslusher> I'm new to kde on ubuntu. I just created a user and I'm trying to Click on System > Administration > Network. It starts and then dies. I'm guessing it's a permissions thing, but I don't know how to fix it.
[05:45] <kbp> fload: type which firefox in terminal and see if it's the new one
[05:45] <hollyw00d> smells like troll in here
[05:45] <lstarnes> emma: how do you know that they know?
[05:45] <SmithX> Jordan_U_: no, but neither is root
[05:45] <gogeta> malek: if you got it connected to a hub it can make the hdd act crazy
[05:45] <Schmitty> lstarnes: does it matter that thr drive itself is actually a dvdrom but it has a cdrom inside of it
[05:46] <fload> usr/bin/firefox
[05:46] <emma> lstarnes -- My sources tell me so. Think of me as an investigative reporter. I encourage you to look into this to prove me wrong if you doubt me. I want people like you to do something about this.
[05:46] <lstarnes> Schmitty: it shouldn't matter
[05:46] <SmithX> but then, root is a member of the "root" group, so maybe that's a supergroup?
[05:46] <kbp> fload: so where did you install your new firefox to?
[05:46] <lstarnes> emma: I can't look into it without knowing a reliable source
[05:46] <malek> gogeta: no, it's connected directly to the machine
[05:46] <Stumpie> c:\firefox
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Pranky: The link you gave me seems broken
[05:46] <fload> i dunno just did apt-get install firefox-3.5
[05:46] <emma> lstarnes -- I am sure you can find peple who have access to the private aport reports when firefox crashes.
[05:46] <fload> lol stumpie
[05:46] <Pranky> Jordan_U, http://ww.pastebin.com/m744ea145
[05:46] <malek> gogeta: driving me nuts though - nautilus keeps opening up everytime it remounts
[05:46] <kbp> fload: type whereis firefox
[05:47] <Schmitty> lstarnes: it says i must specify a file system type
[05:47] <Stumpie> sorry I could not resist fload :)
[05:47] <gogeta> malek: bad usb cable maybe
[05:47] <malek> hmm
[05:47] <malek> hadn't considered that.
[05:47] <lstarnes> Schmitty: sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[05:47] <Jordan_U> emma: You can artificially cause firefox to send a bug report
[05:47] <fload> /usr/bin/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[05:47] <maxagaz> is it possible to disable window decoration for epiphany in gconf, or do I have to use devilspie ?
[05:47] <malek> gogeta: I have another drive attached in a similar way - could that be causing problems?  Would they interfere?
[05:48] <SmithX> what's the easiest way to add my user to the audio group?
[05:48] <Schmitty> lstarnes: it says mount pint doesn't exist
[05:48] <emma> Jordan_U: then do it.
[05:48] <lstarnes> Schmitty: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[05:48] <emma> Jordan_U: be logged in to gmail when you do.
[05:48] <gogeta> malek: they should not i would switch out cables and see if the probles moves to he other drive
[05:48] <lstarnes> Schmitty: or replace /media/cdrom with an existing directory
[05:48] <Berzerker> my sound icon disappeared from my tray, how do I get it back?
[05:48] <emma> Jordan_U: I don't know about you but I don't want any ubuntu devs or volunteers seeing my gmail password or any other personal online data.
[05:49] <gogeta> malek: the cable might just be bad
[05:49] <ziroday> emma: you can see firefox's apport hooks here. Feel free to open a bug report and recommend a fix for your highlighted issue, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/firefox-3.5/karmic/annotate/head%3A/debian/apport/firefox-3.5.py
[05:49] <Schmitty> lstarnes: unknown filesystem cd9660
[05:49] <mzz> emma: so! this seems to be off by default for stable, it *does* warn that there may be sensitive data in there too. What's the actual problem here, that the core dump part isn't actually viewable in "Content of the report"?
[05:49] <fload> if i run firefox-3.5 in term it opens the correct firefox version but my menu icons load old version
[05:49] <lstarnes> Schmitty: try replacing cd9660 with iso9660
[05:49] <mzz> emma: also, stop being horribly vague
[05:49] <Xerran> How come ubuntu can not do 32-bit colour?
[05:50] <fload> how can i set the command "firefox" to the new version?
[05:50] <mzz> Xerran: it can
[05:50] <mzz> Xerran: it does by default, usually
[05:50] <Berzerker> Xerran: drivers installed?
[05:50] <Schmitty> lstarnes: no media found
[05:50] <Xerran> yes
[05:50] <Valkyrie> Why hello ubuntu'ers!!
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Xerran: 24 bit color is 32 bit color.
[05:50] <jifli> Hello Valkyrie
[05:50] <epsalon> fload,  how did you install the new firefox?
[05:50] <mzz> ugh, I should not be in here trying to answer questions, in my current slightly sleep-deprived state I'll be too rude
[05:50] <Valkyrie> Oh
[05:50] <Xerran> oh ok
[05:50] <Valkyrie> Fancy meeting you here jifli
[05:50] <fload> apt-get install firefox-3.5
[05:50] <ziroday> emma: you may also wish to read the Apport wikipage which explains how they try to mitigate the risk of sharing personal information. Currently you are just scaremongering
[05:50] <lstarnes> Schmitty: replace /dev/cdrom with the /dev device node for it
[05:50] <Valkyrie> Isnt it !!
[05:51] <jifli> Valkyrie: I enjoyed the last round of beers.
[05:51] <Valkyrie> Same
[05:51] <Schmitty> lstarnes: how do i find out the device node for it
[05:51]  * Valkyrie waits
[05:51] <Schmitty> ls
[05:51] <Valkyrie> D:<
[05:51] <Valkyrie> not cool
[05:51] <lstarnes> Schmitty: it's probably something like /dev/cdrom0 or /dev/cdrom1
[05:51] <emma> ziroday -- No I am raising awareness. No one knows this is happening when they think they are just sending an aport when firefox crashes in order to be helpful.
[05:51] <lstarnes> Schmitty: which, for me, are aliases to /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1
[05:52] <Stumpie> !nvidia list
[05:52] <kindofabuzz> ls /dev
[05:52] <epsalon> fload, is this from an official ubuntu source?
[05:52] <ziroday> emma: have you read the apport wikipage?
[05:52] <kbp> fload: type which firefox-3.5 to know the directory
[05:52] <lstarnes> emma: it dpes contain a warning about sensitve info, iirc
[05:52] <Schmitty> lstarnes: it mounted  a dvd when i put that in just now
[05:52] <mzz> emma: have you read both the apport wiki page and the actual apport ui presented to you when submitting an apport report?
[05:52] <emma> ziroday: No one would send any apports if they were told that when they do that they may be revealing their gmail passwords and other online data.
[05:52] <vince> emma -- If there is information on the bug report you don't want the devs to see then review the data being sent and don't send its an issue.  If your going to be an "investigative reporter" rather than spreading fud and raising panic bells why not contact the devs in an open forum "like the Ubuntu Forums" or a non open forum such as an email, present them with the evidence and ask why?  Coming in here screaming your head off isn't the wa
[05:52] <vince> y to handle it.
[05:52] <mneptok> emma: please do not scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater
[05:52] <ziroday> emma: apport is not enabled on stable releases for that very reason, for development releases users are expected to know.
[05:52] <Schmitty> lstarnes: i guess i have to unmount the media before ejecting it, because the button on the drive doesn't work
[05:52] <fload> i know where its at and i can run it but do i really have to edit the menu shortcuts to firefox-3.5 instead of firefox?
[05:52] <emma> mzz -- You are being an apologist.
[05:53] <epsalon> fload, in general what you're looking for could be managed with update-alternatives, but I'm not sure firefox is installed that wy
[05:53] <epsalon> *way
[05:53] <mzz> emma: I don't know what the opposite of an apologist is, but that's you :P
[05:53] <emma> You re all being apologists. If Microsoft did this you would not say "oh well people just need to read wikis and the fine print, it's really their fault.'
[05:53] <emma> no it's not.
[05:53] <ziroday> emma: and there is a large warning on the apport page explaining that you me be sending confidential information.
[05:53] <emma> ziro -- That's absurd. That's not acceptable and how many ordinary users in here know about that?
[05:53] <ziroday> emma: and microsoft does do this, with the "problem reporting" application.
[05:53] <lstarnes> emma: do you have absolute, definitive proof that one of the devs actually knows your gmail password?
[05:53] <Stumpie> anyone have a nvidia 295 working with ubuntu 9.04?
[05:53] <mneptok> emma: the Ubuntu support channel is not the proper place for this topic.
[05:53] <emma> ziroday: yes and it's wrong!
[05:53] <ziroday> emma: ordinary users don't run the development releases.
[05:53] <Firefishe> How do I get `updatedb' do include my windows partition in /media included in the command `sudo updatedb'
[05:54] <fluurp> zeroday: not only there
[05:54] <mzz> emma: how many ordinary users have apport enabled? Have you actually triggered the apport ui, or are you just duplicating info you've heard elsewhere?
[05:54] <epsalon> fload, try sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox && sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[05:54] <emma> Someone do something about this. You will be hearing more from me. But not here. Goodbye.
[05:54] <thiebaude> mzz, i have it disabled
[05:54] <Firefishe> How do I get `updatedb' TO include my windows partition in /media included in the command `sudo updatedb'
[05:54] <kbp> fluid: cd /usr/bin and then type ln -s /firefox directory/firefx3.5 firefox
[05:54] <mzz> it's not like it's trivial to turn this thing on, I had to go to a wiki page to figure out how to do it
[05:54] <Caleb> Firefishe: updatedb --help?
[05:54] <Johnny4> Whoa.  What's the deal here?  D:
[05:54] <Firefishe> splg..sowwy ;)
[05:55] <emma> Unless you really think it is okay that Ubuntu volunteers are seeing your gmail passwords, and fields you have filled in on websites with private data. Unless you really think all Ubuntu users really know they are doing that. Please look into this and fix it.
[05:55] <emma> Goodnight.
[05:55] <Berzerker> can someone test a highlight on me please?
[05:55] <kbp> kbp: yea do the epsalon way
[05:55] <lstarnes> Berzerker: does this work?
[05:55] <kbp> emma: give me the source code
[05:55] <Caleb> Berzerker:
[05:55] <malek> gogeta: thanks - I'll give that a shot.
[05:55] <DigitalKiwi> emma is a good troll
[05:55] <Berzerker> yes thanks everyone.
[05:55] <mneptok> !ot
[05:55] <Firefishe> Caleb:  Already did that, Caleb.  It seems to have more ways to omit a directory search than specifying a way to do the command where it not only reads only one directory instance, but also adds it to the database.,
[05:55] <Caleb> indeed DigitalKiwi
[05:55] <lstarnes> emma: please provide definitive proof with your claims, or refraim from making them
[05:55] <lstarnes> *refrain
[05:55] <Berzerker> now for my question :P : my sound icon disappeared from my tray, any way to get it back?
[05:56] <Caleb> restart gnome?
[05:56] <mzz> lstarnes: a core dump seems to be part of the "complete report". It seems plausible that that'll occasionally contain at the very least saved forms data, unless firefox goes out of its way to zero out memory that previously held this data
[05:56] <Johnny4> I install XChat, start it up, and first thing I read is something about security problems and privacy.  D:
[05:56] <ziroday> Berzerker: readd the volume applet?
[05:56] <fload> awesome thanks that did the trick
[05:56] <tepidpond> Oh, it's a genuine concern, I wouldn't call emma a troll for that.
[05:56] <AlexanderAzimov> Any one know the name of the RSS program that runs in the terminal?
[05:56] <SquareHimself> AlexanderAzimov: Snownews
[05:56] <epsalon> you're welcome fload
[05:56] <kbp> I just wonder about the way firefox store our info (such as passwd), is it plain text? isnt't it encoded? if it's encoded even though they are sent to aport it's useless
[05:56] <AlexanderAzimov> thank you!
[05:56] <Voltaire> Hey guys I got a question
[05:56] <ar10> Berzerker, it may not actually be part of your system tray, more likely an applet for your panel. Right-click on your panel > Add, and search for Volume Applet.
[05:56] <puremichael> ow
[05:56] <fload> epsalon u the best
[05:56] <lstarnes> mzz: that would potentially contain anything in firefox's memory
[05:57] <Pranky> Anyone! How to install ubuntu from iso image not from CD/DVD.
[05:57] <vince> emma : and your being a scaremonger.  You've had your say and we've explained to you our side and given you some avenues to go through to actualy resolve your issue.  Your refusing.  Thank god i'm not at my job because here I can tell you if your just in here to cause issues and your not willing to listen to us then bugger off.
[05:57] <Voltaire> anyone know how to mount a network folder (sftp) in dolphin
[05:57] <mynameistux> pranky: try creating a live usb
[05:57] <ar10> Pranky, do you already have another OS installed?
[05:57] <Stumpie> do you guys have SLI working in linux? does it enhance compiz?
[05:57] <mzz> kbp: apport isn't stupid enough to send scary parts of your profile from disk. The "problem" here is that it'll send a (partial at least) dump of the memory owned by firefox at the time it crashed, which you might be able to gather data from.
[05:57] <ar10> Stumpie, what cards do you have?
[05:57] <gartral> how can i add myself too a group?
[05:57] <Pranky> ar10, I have already 9.04, but it is nor working properly.
[05:57] <Goioo> 9.04 has lots of issues
[05:57] <mynameistux> Pranky: all you have to do is use the live usb creator, it is in applications/accecories
[05:57] <mzz> vince: thanks, "scaremonger" was the word I was looking for :)
[05:58] <Goioo> I'm go to 8.10 for awhile and wait until they work them out
[05:58] <mynameistux> Pranky: you can also use unetbootin
[05:58] <DigitalKiwi> tepidpond: oi it's not the concern but the format of the content that makes me say emma is a troll
[05:58] <Pranky> mynameistux, I am on Remote machine, I have only terminal prompt
[05:58] <mzz> kbp: it *is* encrypted on disk, but unless you use a master password in firefox the data to decrypt it is also on disk
[05:58] <Voltaire> Actually I'll ask the kubuntu channel
[05:58] <Stumpie> I want to buy a set of Geforce GTX 295 , 1792 megabyte cards ar10
[05:58] <mynameistux> Pranky: idk, maybe unetbootin has a terminal mode?
[05:58] <mneptok> vince: so why would you perpetuate the topic by continuing to discuss it? please stop.
[05:58] <mzz> kbp: but that's unrelated, because those files aren't sent with the report (that'd be pointless)
[05:58] <mynameistux> Pranky: not 100% sure on this, but it should
[05:59] <lstarnes> mzz: would the decryption key also be im memory?
[05:59] <Stumpie> I have a 3x SLI motherboard
[05:59] <ar10> Pranky, click system > administration > usb disk creator. You can create a live USB boot disk (much like a DVD) that way.
[05:59] <mneptok> mzz: you, too. please stop.
[05:59] <Pranky> mynameistux, Let me try it.
[05:59] <ctmjr> gartral: sudo adduser "user" "group name"
[05:59] <kbp> mzz: oh I see
[05:59] <vince> mzz happy to oblige "resumes fighting with his new kernel"
[05:59] <ar10> Stumpie, how many monitors and at what resolutions are you planning on running them at?
[05:59] <Berzerker> ok so I added an applet in here (user switch applet), but it's really really thin and I can't right click it to remove it...
[05:59] <mzz> lstarnes: I'd have to dig into the source code, but it's possible it's fairly careful with saved passwords (zeroing out memory after it's used)
[05:59] <Pranky> ar10, I am on remote machine access via putty
[05:59] <ar10> gartral, system>administration>users and groups.
[05:59] <mynameistux> OVER NINE THOASAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
[05:59] <mzz> mneptok: yeah, sorry.
[05:59] <Caleb> any of you guys have an android phone
[05:59] <gartral> !caps | mynameistux
[05:59] <ar10> Pranky, are you able to physically access the machine?
[05:59] <mneptok> Caleb: i do.
[05:59] <SmithX> Does anyone know of a description of all the ubuntu groups and what they're for?
[06:00] <Caleb> mneptok: ahh nice which phone?
[06:00] <Stumpie> ar10 right now only 1 1920x1080 HDTV but soon I want to have 4, I am an animator and artist
[06:00] <Pranky> ar10, no
[06:00] <mynameistux> !unetbootin
[06:00] <mneptok> Caleb: HTC G1
[06:00] <roguenode> gartral: can also "sudo gpasswd -a user group"
[06:00] <kbp> !lol gartral
[06:00] <Caleb> mneptok: same here
[06:00] <SmithX> I'm used to RedHat, and there's none of this crazy excessive group management stuff
[06:00] <Stumpie> I use blender
[06:00] <mynameistux> !unetbootin | Pranky
[06:00] <Caleb> just flashed the new cyanogen rom to it
[06:00] <Pranky> ubottu, ok
[06:00] <Caleb> mneptok: is your phone rooted
[06:00] <SmithX> gartral: or you can do "usermod -a -G <group> <user>"
[06:01]  * Stumpie thinks ubottu is sexy
[06:01] <mneptok> Caleb: off-topic for #ubuntu. and no.
[06:01] <mynameistux> ubottu is like the best bot ever!
[06:01] <Berzerker> it looks like I added some icons outside of the notification panel, how do I remove them if I Can't right click them
[06:01] <mynameistux> it's ok ubottu, you ARE intelligent, I know the REAL you
[06:01] <Stumpie> well, I guess i am going to buy the GTX 295... wish me luck guys :)
[06:01] <Berzerker> 295?
[06:01] <Berzerker> nooo
[06:01] <mynameistux> OMG, I want one
[06:02] <SchighSchagh> how do I set/changet he default paths to search for include header files?
[06:02]  * Stumpie gives ubottu a cookie
[06:02] <Berzerker> buy 2 GTX 260s, cheaper and it performs just as well
[06:02] <Caleb> ?
[06:02] <ar10> Stumpie, my wimpy 9800GTX can run Compiz with 16AA on 2 1920x1080 monitors without any lag or anything. two GTK 295s are almost certainly overkill (for Compiz). Compiz is very resource-efficient, even on my older 8800, it ran fine.
[06:02] <gartral> !ot | mynameistux Stumpie
[06:02] <kbp> Ubuntu is too good with HD4850, why need higher cards?
[06:02] <mneptok> Caleb: Android discussion belongs in #android (or somesuch) or #ubuntu-offtopic. this is a support channel for Ubuntu.
[06:02] <Caleb> yeah i got ya dude
[06:02] <mynameistux> WIMPY 98800?!?!?! try having a 7300 go (laptop version) and THEN you can complain
[06:02] <ar10> *GTX
[06:02] <Caleb> as you see i stopped talking about it
[06:03] <Caleb> and im already in android
[06:03] <mneptok> Caleb: ah, i saw the "?"
[06:03] <Berzerker> hah! I'm running ubuntu on a GMA950. I can't even use compix
[06:03] <SchighSchagh> how can I change the default *system* paths to search of header files?
[06:03] <Berzerker> compiz*
[06:03] <ar10> mynameistux, compared to his 295 GTXs :-P. I've run Compiz on machines with no hardware graphics acceleration at all, xD
[06:03] <Berzerker> so ha.
[06:03] <Stumpie> I have wimpy 8800gt in SLI, but ubuntu 9.04 will not install... the main reason I am upgrading to a single card, then later to SLI after they get the SLI bug worked out
[06:03] <Berzerker> foo on you all nvidia and ati users. intel for life!
[06:04] <Caleb> mneptok: heh sorry
[06:04] <mynameistux> how awesome would life be if nVidia opened up their drivers?
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> about as awesome as if ati did
[06:04] <Berzerker> so my problem still stands, how would I clear the top bar of icons?
[06:04] <mneptok> !ot > mynameistux
[06:04] <Stumpie> that would be cool
[06:04] <mneptok> mynameistux: last warning
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> oh wait, that happened, they still suck
[06:04] <kbp> SLI is left far over by Crossfire, no way to improve SLI in the future (except developing a new thing called SLI2)
[06:05] <Berzerker> or....scalable link interface....er!
[06:05] <Berzerker> it's more interfacey.
[06:05] <Stumpie> can I do crossfire with a SLi motherboard?
[06:05] <Berzerker> negatory.
[06:05] <kbp> no
[06:05]  * fluurp brews coffee
[06:06] <leaf-sheep> For those who use Hardy, what is 8.04.3?  Nothing more than updated packages, I take it?
[06:06] <gartral> Stumpie: SLI in Nvidia specific, Crossfire is ATI specific
[06:07] <Stumpie> Ok  .... wish I could, i heat ATI drivers are getting verry nice
[06:07] <Stumpie> hear
[06:08] <ar10> Don't buy from ATI, enemy of your freedom.
[06:08] <ar10> heh
[06:09] <SmithX> I can't see video in firefox unless I'm the root user--anyone know what's going on?
[06:09] <alleyrat> if i have a folder that contains say 250 folders of files, and i would to take the files from each of the 250 folders in a recursive manner and move them all into one BIG directory with no 250 structure is there some easy way to do that with cp?
[06:09] <SmithX> adding myself to group "video" doesn't do a thing
[06:09] <DigitalKiwi> alleyrat: yes
[06:09] <DigitalKiwi> well with find
[06:09] <Schmitty> why is ATI an enemy of my freedom? ar10
[06:10] <Berzerker> because nvidia > ati
[06:10] <Berzerker> that is all.
[06:10] <alleyrat> any link you know off the top of your head?
[06:10] <tepidpond> Nvidia and ATI both suck...binary drivers are anti-linux.
[06:10] <ar10> Schmitty, proprietary drivers.
[06:10] <Schmitty> OBAMA is an enemy of our freedom
[06:10] <Berzerker> million dollar question: how do I get my bar to stop autohiding?
[06:11] <tribendu> hello is there any way I can install gtalk in ubuntu?
[06:11] <ctmjr> Berzerker: right click it uncheck autohide
[06:11] <mjheagle8> tribendu: pidgin does it
[06:11] <fload> pidgin
[06:11] <tribendu> ok
[06:11] <tribendu> thanks
[06:11] <tohsh> is it normal for me to get a ton of errors when I run utorrent? I've never had any wine errors before on it and I can not close the xterm window now without closing utorrent. Anyone know why? Running latest version of uTorrent
[06:11] <Bob_Dole> I want to get an Nvidia card, so I can run folding@home (the GPU client)on linux....Nvidia works, ATI doesn't. ;-;
[06:12] <SmithX> scratch that--I can see video
[06:12] <mjheagle8> tohsh: utorrent sucks. try a better torrent client.
[06:12] <SmithX> still no sound though, even though I'm part of the audio group
[06:12] <tohsh> I like the WebUI. It's not a local server.
[06:12] <fluurp> tohsh why not using the clinet that comes with ubuntu?
[06:12] <tohsh> Torrentflux was so buggy.
[06:12] <Berzerker> ctmjr, yeah, just couldn't find a plcae to right click it and it find the option
[06:12] <tohsh> I need something with a webUI
[06:13] <Bob_Dole> Transmission has a webUI I think :o
[06:13] <tohsh> as the server is not a local one
[06:13] <ar10> tohsh, Deluge, Transmission
[06:13] <mjheagle8> tohsh: doesnt it ship with transmission?
[06:13] <Berzerker> tohsh, try transmission
[06:13] <mjheagle8> tohsh: did u try ktorrent?
[06:13] <tohsh> thanks thanks and thanks
[06:13] <tohsh> ill try transmission
[06:13] <fluurp> "that one what came with ubuntu"
[06:13] <Berzerker> transmission is wonderful. lightweight, etc.
[06:13] <tohsh> lol
[06:13] <ar10> tohsh, deluge is more similar to utorrent IMO, it has more options and customisability.
[06:14] <tohsh> a couple trackers dont approve of it though? for some reason.
[06:14] <mjheagle8> rtorrent is teh bomb.
[06:14] <tohsh> ill try transmission and see how it goes as I use transmission on my macbook
[06:14] <SchighSchagh> how can I change the default *system* paths to search of header files?
[06:14] <tohsh> thanks guys
[06:14] <Berzerker> is there a way to lock in the position of certain applets?
[06:14] <Caleb> rtorrent is indeed nice
[06:14] <Berzerker> yeah transmission for OS X is nice also
[06:14] <mjheagle8> tohsh: boo macs!
[06:14] <SmithX> got another noobie question
[06:14] <tohsh> lol
[06:14] <mjheagle8> SmithX: that's what ubuntu's for!
[06:14] <Berzerker> hey if I had a mini 9, it would have OS X on it lol
[06:14] <ar10> SmithX, our favourite kind :-P
[06:14] <mjheagle8> lol
[06:14] <orifice> When is vino-server supposed to be started ?
[06:14] <tohsh> it is a mini 9 lol
[06:15] <SmithX> anyone know how to use apt-get to tell you from what package a file is from?
[06:15] <Berzerker> really?
[06:15] <orifice> On jaunty, after install, it doesn't seem to be started after I log in.
[06:15] <tohsh> yeah lol
[06:15] <Moulan-> Hey, I want to buy a notebook from Hp, called mini 1000,  which comes with linux MI, and its 100 dollars cheaper than the one with windows xp, after i get it here, is there any chance to make a dual boot with ubuntu jaunty , and maybe with windows xp? considering there is no CD ROOM in this notebooks, would it still be possible and how ; ? Thanks a lot!
[06:15] <Berzerker> throw OS X on that lol
[06:15] <tohsh> thats what i meant
[06:15] <tohsh> my macbook is a mini 9
[06:15] <Berzerker> oh lol
[06:15] <Berzerker> yay
[06:15] <tohsh> haha
[06:15] <Berzerker> Moulan-, why yes.
[06:15] <tohsh> amazing.
[06:15] <mjheagle8> os x is as proprietary as it gets.
[06:15] <SmithX> like, with rpm you'd do rpm -qf <file> or something
[06:15] <Lafitte-> Berzerker: i wish it all worked on my mini 10  but doesnt
[06:15] <tohsh> it does.
[06:15] <tohsh> mydellmini.com
[06:15] <mjheagle8> and its slow, overpriced, misleading adds, etc.
[06:15] <ziroday> Moulan-: you can install ubuntu with a usb stick. See !install
[06:15] <lstarnes> SmithX: apt-file search filename
[06:15] <tohsh> UNLESS you have teh Z520 chipset
[06:15] <tohsh> then you are fail
[06:16] <ziroday> SmithX: use apt-file
[06:16] <Berzerker> Moulan-, if you can access a windows computer, you can use win32imagewriter to write a ubuntu netbook remix image to a flash drive and install it from there. I'm using the ubuntu netbook remix on a Mini 1000 right now.
[06:16] <Berzerker> that's how I installed it.
[06:16] <Lafitte-> i have lenovo 10
[06:16] <Moulan-> thanks I was also thinking of using an extarnal usb cd room, would the bios recognize it and let me boot from the ubuntu cd from an extarnal usb cd room?
[06:16] <Berzerker> yes
[06:16] <SquareHimself> !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vom
[06:16] <Berzerker> I used that option once as well.
[06:16] <ziroday> Moulan-: it should do
[06:16]  * jifli facepalm
[06:17] <Berzerker> USB flash drive would be cheaper though. :P
[06:17] <SmithX> but, when I do, say, "apt-file find /usr/bin/renice" for example, it gives me dozens of results
[06:17] <maco> !ops | SquareHimself
[06:17] <mjheagle8> SquareHimself: looks like its not working, lol
[06:17] <Berzerker> you only need a 1GB max.
[06:17] <Moulan-> hehe nice
[06:17] <SquareHimself> lol
[06:17] <Moulan-> so it is possible :D
[06:17] <SmithX> it should only have been installed from a single package
[06:17] <Berzerker> indeed. That's how I've done it the past 3 installs I've done.
[06:17] <pcfreak30> im trying recordmydesktop but what frame rate shouls i put it as. its gets all messed up like when windows doesnt respond and you drag the windows all over the place
[06:17] <maco> Myrtti: thanks
[06:17] <fluurp> lol, that was...fast
[06:17] <mjheagle8> pcfreak30: 30 should be plenty
[06:17] <Berzerker> although, I'm on the windows version. but you have the advantage of having a SSD drive. and opt for the 16GB if you can
[06:17] <tribendu> how can I install microsoft office 2007 in ubuntu?
[06:18] <maco> fluurp: i was in -ops and said it there before i called ops
[06:18] <pcfreak30> ive tried 30
[06:18] <Berzerker> tribendu, you use open office.
[06:18] <ziroday> pcfreak30: 25-30 is a good number. It depends on how strong your machine is
[06:18] <Moulan-> :D
[06:18] <fluurp> allright ;)
[06:18] <vince> Gotta restart to try this folks BRB
[06:18] <pcfreak30> it doesnt turn out well, might upload a sample
[06:18] <Berzerker> tribendu, it supports docx/pptx/xlsx IIRC
[06:18] <tribendu> but I like MS Office 2007
[06:18] <SmithX> so, apt-file search is actually not what I want, since it apparently finds where your file is in *all possible packages*
[06:18] <tribendu> I have open office
[06:18] <Berzerker> openoffice is extremely similar
[06:18] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: so does oo
[06:18] <Moulan-> thanks a lot, i will order it now and i will come here if i need help doing the ubuntu install, cya thanks!
[06:18] <SmithX> whereas what I want is to know what package it was actually installed from
[06:18] <arooni_____> i have a bunch of music i'd like to get OFF my ipod and into ubuntu jaunty.  is there a way to do this?
[06:18] <Berzerker> mjheagle8, yes that's what I said. oo supports those formats.
[06:19] <ziroday> tribendu: you can virtualize windows, and then run MS Office 2007. Otherwise you have to use a native linux office suite.
[06:19] <maco> arooni_____: should be able to copy it into your library within rhythmbox
[06:19] <mjheagle8> SmithX: what file is it
[06:19] <SmithX> mjheagle8: /usr/bin/renice
[06:19] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: sry, i wasnt paying too much attention
[06:19]  * valkyrie smirks
[06:19] <Berzerker> mjheagle8, heh. np :P
[06:19] <mjheagle8> SmithX: i can tell you what it does.
[06:19] <crdlb> SmithX: apt-file find /usr/bin/renice gives two results her, one for /usr/bin/renice and one for /usr/bin/reniced
[06:19] <Myrtti> SquareHimself: take your bot elsewhere
[06:19] <SmithX> mjheagle8: I already know what it does
[06:19] <SquareHimself> !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <Fireko> !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <notbruenig> !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <Fireko> !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <notbruenig> !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <Fireko> !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <valkyrie> ahahahaha
[06:19] <valkyrie> !!!!
[06:19] <FloodBot3> Fireko: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <notbruenig> !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo !vomit !echo EPIC
[06:19] <Fireko> What
[06:19] <FloodBot3> notbruenig: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <notbruenig> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[06:19] <Moulan-> -_-
[06:19] <valkyrie> aaahhaa
[06:19]  * valkyrie rofls
[06:19] <crdlb> SmithX: two results here, that is
[06:20] <maco> !hammertime
[06:20] <Berzerker> well I fail
[06:20] <mjheagle8> SmithX: may i ask why you neet to know what its from?
[06:20] <maco> !hammertime
[06:20] <Berzerker> I hit fn+F1 by accident
[06:20] <SmithX> crdlb: but it's still searching all packages that it knows of--what I want is for it to tell me which package it was actually installed from
[06:20] <maco> aw
[06:20] <valkyrie> Ubuntu got pwnd?
[06:20] <valkyrie> ^^
[06:20] <crdlb> SmithX: dpkg -S will do that
[06:20] <SmithX> mjheagle8: in general, I'd like to know where file XYZ is installed from
[06:20] <maco> valkyrie: its just a chatbot
[06:20] <valkyrie> Its mine
[06:20] <DigitalKiwi> valkyrie: nah, just retards being retarded
[06:20] <valkyrie> Sorry
[06:20] <maco> valkyrie: people like to troll ubuntu channels
[06:20] <valkyrie> xDD
[06:20] <valkyrie> Ya
[06:20] <mjheagle8> SmithX: ah, okay.
[06:20] <FloodBot3> valkyrie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <maco> valkyrie: that's your bot? stop being a jerk
[06:21] <valkyrie> Mayyybe
[06:21] <crdlb> SmithX: relatedly, dpkg -L will list the files in an installed package
[06:21] <Bob_Dole> My network crashed momentarily :/
[06:21] <SmithX> crdlb: yes! thanks! dpkg -S seems to work perfectly!
[06:21] <SmithX> crdlb: this is more like the rpm command that I'm familiar with
[06:21] <Valk{Windows}> o...o
[06:22] <Berzerker> Bob_Dole, heh, so did mine. but that was my fault. I hit the sleep button by accident. lol
[06:22] <SmithX> crdlb: dpkg -L is another think I wanted to know about--thanks again
[06:22] <fluurp> i removed all 3 of them from my keyboard , lol
[06:22] <Voltaire> I love ssh
[06:22] <pcfreak30> http://rapidshare.com/files/266808388/out.ogg.html
[06:22] <vince> HURRAY!!!! New kernal with disable.ipv6 flag and my internet is fast agian!!! *HAPPY DANCE*
[06:22] <SmithX> crdlb: why does ubuntu have 2 package managers?
[06:22] <Berzerker> fluurp, sleep buttons?
[06:22] <Bob_Dole> Berzerker, I have no idea what happened.. it may have been this 8 port switch. I bypassed it and everything started working again
[06:22] <pcfreak30> it gets al jacked up
[06:22] <code_blocks> can't find the output of a cpp file in code blocks
[06:22] <Valk{Windows}> So. Why do people troll ubuntu so much =P
[06:22] <lstarnes> vince: are you absolutely sure that ipv6 was the cause?
[06:22] <tohsh> I'm getting a whole lot of Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display :1:0
[06:22] <crdlb> SmithX: do you mean apt-get and dpkg, or what?
[06:22] <fluurp> yeah, sleep, wake up and power off
[06:22] <SmithX> crdlb: yeah
[06:23] <Berzerker> Bob_Dole, 8 port switch? using it for what. you have 8 computers? lol just get wireless lol
[06:23] <maco> Valk{Windows}: they like to make themselves feel superior to deal with their inferiority complexes
[06:23] <lstarnes> vince: if it was, it was probably due to an interface having an ipv6 address on it
[06:23] <crdlb> SmithX: apt-get:yum::dpkg:rpm
[06:23] <f4000> hello
[06:23] <Voltaire> hi
[06:23] <Berzerker> fluurp, heh. on the HP minis, the power off is kind of hard to accidently hit. so I don't worry about it
[06:23] <Myrtti> Valk{Windows}: move to #ubuntu-ops, now.
[06:23] <code_blocks> can't find the output of a cpp file in code blocks, where is the console output window ?
[06:23] <pcfreak30> SmithX, what two. ubuntu only uses 1. apt-get, others are only gui frontends
[06:23] <SmithX> I'm not familiar with yum, actually--but I can read about it
[06:23] <fluurp> :)
[06:23] <duckwars> I'm sorry, but how do I see all drives (mounted or unmounted) connected to my computer. I'm more concerned about seeing the unmounted drives as "mount" shows me all the mounted ones
[06:23] <lstarnes> pcfreak30: there is also aptitude, which is a replacement for apt-get
[06:24] <vince> lstarnes : It was slow befor I disabled, It is fast when its not.  I ran with Ubuntu 8.10 with IPv6 disabled before and never had an issue.  Do you have any better idea's?
[06:24] <SmithX> pcfreak30: I think you have it backwards. apt-get is a wrapper around dpkg
[06:24] <maco> lstarnes: its fairly common for crappy networking hardware to cause lags when ipv6 is enabled. the proper fix would be to get a not-crappy router / switch / etc :P
[06:24] <qhoxie> does anyone know of a centralized file sharing implementation that stores the files on the server?  like (s)ftp but with search, etc
[06:24] <crdlb> SmithX: I mean dpkg is the actual package manager; apt-get just handles fetching dependencies and repositories
[06:24] <Bob_Dole> Berzerker, I have 15 computers. But I'm current connected to the 24port switch instead..with a 30ft cable. and Not all of these will use wireless(I noticed ubuntu locks up after a few days if I have the wireless card installed and enabled)
[06:24] <Gnea> qhoxie: p2p
[06:24] <code_blocks> can't find the output of a cpp file in code blocks, where is the console output window ?
[06:24] <SmithX> crdlb: thanks for the info
[06:24] <qhoxie> Gnea: ?
[06:24] <Gnea> !p2p | qhoxie
[06:24] <vince> maco : The issue is my crappy ISP unfortunatly I don't have much say in the matter
[06:24] <Voltaire> maco: or when your not on a unvirsity network or accessing university material
[06:25] <pcfreak30> SmithX, uh, from what i know, dkpg only installs. aptitude uses apt-get and apt-get uses dkpg
[06:25] <lstarnes> pcfreak30: I thought aptitude was separate from apt-get
[06:25] <pcfreak30> you can have apt-get and not aptitude but not other way around
[06:25] <tohsh> Anyone know what Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":1.0". mean?
[06:25] <SmithX> pcfreak30: yep
[06:25] <Berzerker> Bob_Dole, strange. :P
[06:25] <mjheagle8> lstarnes: they're pretty much the same thing
[06:25] <maco> vince: if you actually HAVE ipv6 access though...i think the issue goes away. the trouble, iirc, is the lag waiting for ipv6 requests to time out. i use miredo to get ipv6 access
[06:25] <Wiseman> grr
[06:25] <Wiseman> I can't get brasero to work right, can anyone help?
[06:25] <qhoxie> Gnea: yeah none of those meet the criteria of storing central
[06:25] <code_blocks> can't find the output of a cpp file in code blocks, where is the console output window ?
[06:26] <duckwars> please, how do I see unmounted drives connected to my computer so i can use the mount command to mount them?
[06:26] <Goioo> just found some matched RAM I bought from a street vendor in Japan wasn't good
[06:26] <pcfreak30> aptitude needs apt-get/dkpg but apt-get doesnt need aptitude
[06:26] <vince> maco What exactly is miredo?
[06:26] <Goioo> Posted about 1300 errors in memtest86+
[06:26] <Wiseman> vince:  Shit
[06:26] <SmithX> aptitude is just a high-level interface to dpkg
[06:26] <maco> vince: the unix implementation of the teredo protocol. it routes ipv6 over ipv4
[06:26] <vince> Wiseman : oooooooooohh kay
[06:26] <pcfreak30> remember that aptitude is also a cmd interactive tool,
[06:26] <lstarnes> vince: it uses the teredo protocol for creating an ipv6 tunnel over ipv4
[06:26] <Wiseman> Oh wait, that's Mierda
[06:26] <maco> vince: my isp has no ipv6 access, but i can use ipv6.google.com and ipv6.chat.freenode.net
[06:27] <mjheagle8> maco: why use ipv6 at all?
[06:27] <Berzerker> how do I remove/move the power meter for the battery?
[06:27] <vince> maco : is there any particular benifit to this other than not having to beat ubuntu into submission over IPv6 each update?
[06:27] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: should be in the options
[06:27] <Berzerker> eh
[06:27] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: right click...?
[06:27] <Berzerker> no right click option to move or remove from panel
[06:27] <pcfreak30> but what is with my video recording. its at 30 fps, and 40% quality audio disabled. im using a hdtv lcd for monitor tho. http://rapidshare.com/files/266808388/out.ogg.html. its recordmydesktop
[06:27] <maco> mjheagle8: for me the reason is to make web admins notice when they get hits from ipv6.google.com and so hopefully they start deploying ipv6 sites, seeing the demand. they need to do it sooner or later (where later is within 3 years), and sooner is better
[06:28] <afed> guten tag fraulines
[06:28] <mjheagle8> maco: ah, okay.
[06:28] <Berzerker> ah it's in the options
[06:28] <maco> vince: see what i just said to mjheagle8
[06:28] <Berzerker> but I can' move it to a different notification area
[06:28] <maco> afed: deutsche --> #ubuntu-de
[06:28] <afed> maco: gotcha, i'm actually an english speaker
[06:28] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: there only is one notification area
[06:28] <maco> afed: ohok
[06:28] <fluurp> afed frauleins spelled wrong ;)
[06:29] <afed> haha
[06:29] <Berzerker> I added another. :P
[06:29] <Jeruvy> afed: gutentag you have a q?
[06:29] <afed> Jeruvy: yes
[06:29] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: how? and why?
[06:29] <afed> concerning installing ubuntu on software raid and/or LVM
[06:29] <mjheagle8> Berzerker: seems pointless
[06:29] <afed> i don't see the options in the installer?
[06:29] <Berzerker> add to panel > notification area. and because I want to separate system ones from program ones
[06:29] <vince> Ahh ok
[06:30] <vince> Maco: ahh ok
[06:30] <orifice> I have an issue with my Xclient script that prevents me from loggig in via gdm.  I can log in via failsafe gnome session scripts though.  Whats the location of these scripts ?  I'd like to diff them
[06:30] <vince> Im so happy I can stream in high def now.  Wheeee thank you thank you thank you.  I forget who pointed me at that so long ago
[06:30] <Schmitty> ahem
[06:31] <afed> so what am i doing wrong?
[06:31] <maco> vince, mjheagle8: also, one of my friends is an ipv6 hacker ;) the technology is actually pretty darned COOL
[06:31] <Bob_Dole> Be back in a bit, off to fix Dinner
[06:31] <afed> at least give me an rtfm
[06:31] <SmithX> and yet another noobie question incoming!
[06:31] <maco> orifice: ~/.xsession i believe
[06:31] <Voltaire> I hate doliphin..
[06:32] <Voltaire> anyone know how to get doliphin out of full screen
[06:32] <SmithX> anyone know of a something I can install to be able to change my monitor resolution from the desktop?
[06:32] <Berzerker> so new problem: I added a user switcher applet and it's extremely thin and I can't right click it to remove it.
[06:32] <Jeruvy> afed: my recommendation would be to use parted to setup the raid prior to install.  Im a big advocate of building your HDD prior to installing 'anything' :P
[06:32] <maco> Voltaire: i <3 split pane in dolphin. i think you can just click the middle button on the right
[06:32] <Jeruvy> afed: or gparted
[06:32] <maco> Voltaire: you know minimize, maximize/restore, close...?
[06:32] <Voltaire> Maco: yeah I love that about it,
[06:32] <maco> Voltaire: i dont use a normal window manager so i cant really try though
[06:32] <afed> Jeruvy: well am i going to be able to work with LVM then from the installer just by making physical volumes in advance?
[06:33] <Voltaire> maco: but atlast there are no minimize, maximize, close buttons
[06:33] <afed> Jeruvy: or do i have to make the volume groups and logical volumes in advance too?
[06:33] <afed> Jeruvy: IIRC the ubuntu installer used to do that?
[06:33] <SmithX> I'm using fluxbox desktop--how to change the screen resolution?
[06:33] <orifice> maco: that file doesn't exist for me.  Is there a system default in /etc ?
[06:33] <Jeruvy> afed: assuming the raid works.. yup.  I personally don't have much faith in any disk partitioner :P
[06:34] <Voltaire> maco: its full screen with no titlebar, started the menus
[06:34] <maco> Voltaire: oh...i dont see a fullscreen option in any of the menus. is your window manager crashed?
[06:34] <afed> Jeruvy: sure but did that stuff get removed from the installer or am i just a retard?
[06:34] <maco> SmithX: "xrandr" will list available resolutions
[06:35] <pizzledizzle> how do you send email to an account that's on the same machine?
[06:35] <afed> Jeruvy: please tell me "yes ubuntu removed raid and lvm from the installer for reason foo" if that is the case
[06:35] <maco> SmithX: and umm...."xrandr -s 1024x768" is the deprecated way to change resolution...manpage may list a new way
[06:35] <Voltaire> maco: doubtfull, I can tab about of it and see other apps and they work fine, even rebooted
[06:35] <SmithX> maco: thanks for the info
[06:35] <Jeruvy> afed: I won't answer that for many reasons...but check and see.  I don't know if your situation is 'supported' or not, unfortunately.
[06:35] <maco> afed: raid and lvm were NEVER in the gui installer. the text installer still has them
[06:36] <Stumpie> I get to install xubuntu at work tomarow morning. I might go in early so i can do it in the nude.
[06:36] <afed> maco: ah
[06:36] <pcfreak30> anyone have any clue about why i cant get decent screen capture... http://rapidshare.com/files/266808388/out.ogg.html
[06:36] <maco> Voltaire: :-/ this reminds me of a bug i saw filed where firefox would do the same thing
[06:37] <Stumpie> pcfreak30, try gimp for screencapture
[06:37] <maco> Voltaire: but i think the firefox thing only happened when firefox and compiz intersected and only for a handful of people
[06:37] <maco> Voltaire: i assume youre using kwin?
[06:37] <maco> Stumpie: er...that says .ogg i think they want a screencast not screenshot
[06:38] <Crash2108> Does anyone konw if the Beatles were atheists?
[06:38] <maco> Crash2108: offtopic
[06:38] <bazhang> !ot | Crash2108
[06:38] <SmithX> maco: now my resolution is much more readable. but, it would be nice if I could do it from fluxbox somehow
[06:38] <Stumpie> oh, sorry pcfreak30 ... thanks maco
[06:38] <pcfreak30> Stumpie, uh, no. i mean sceen ecording, not print screen
[06:38] <bazhang> !screencast > pcfreak30
[06:38] <maco> SmithX: there's a gui for gnome you can install, i guess... but no, fluxbox doesnt have much config utils other than the ones for configuring fluxbox itself
[06:39] <error404notfound> i have to backup some directories, and only root has access to them, i have chosen duplicity as a tool for backup, however ssh for root is disabled, so i need another uid 0 account just for the backup's purposes. or should i create a new user with group as root?
[06:39] <Voltaire> maco: good question, pretty sure, I'm running doliphin in a gnome environment, but I don't think that would matter any
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: are you using kubuntu or are you using dolphin in ubuntu?
[06:39] <Stumpie> VLC might have a way to record the screen via VNC
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: ok then its either metacity or compiz. is it composited?
[06:39] <maco> Voltaire: this sounds like youve found another piece of that annoying compiz bug
[06:39] <SmithX> maco: there's a gnome package or something I can get for changing the res that'll work in fluxbox??
[06:40] <Voltaire> maco: haha oh joy
[06:40] <maco> SmithX: sure. all it does is call xrandr like you just did :P
[06:40] <raul_> ño
[06:40] <SmithX> maco: what's the name of it?
[06:40] <maco> SmithX: oh wow there are a ton of them. run "apt-cache search xrandr" in a terminal and pick your fave
[06:40] <tohsh> Anyone know where the default configuration file location is for transmission? cant seem to find it
[06:40] <Voltaire> maco: thanks for the tibit, I think I know how to fix it
[06:40] <SmithX> maco: thanks
[06:41] <maco> SmithX: ubuntu default is gnome-randr-applet
[06:41] <maco> Voltaire: nkwith ff, youd hit f11 twice, i thi
[06:41] <pcfreak30> bazhang, uh. tried most. hear good hings bout rmd, never knew ffmpeg could. but still want to know whats with my recoding.
[06:41] <SmithX> speaking of which, is it possible for apt-get or something to give me a description of a package before I decide to install it?
[06:41] <maco> Voltaire: with ff youd hit f11 twice i think*
[06:41] <maco> SmithX: apt-cache show <package>
[06:42] <SmithX> maco: thanks again! you're the man!
[06:42] <Voltaire> maco: or that would work, beats what I was thinking about doing, now to get my vnc to like me enough to let me do that
[06:42] <maco> pcfreak30: with specific settings istanbul can work without crashing. i forget the only known workng combination
[06:42] <maco> SmithX: woman, actually ;)
[06:43] <pcfreak30> maco, uh, it never crashes, it just outputs bad video. please look for yoyr self.
[06:43] <pcfreak30> http://rapidshare.com/files/266808388/out.ogg.html
[06:43] <Berzerker> how do I reset all of my panels?
[06:43] <bazhang> !panels
[06:43] <Berzerker> well thanks lol
[06:43] <SmithX> maco: man as in human is neutered!
[06:44] <pcfreak30> at 40% quality, 30 fps
[06:44] <maco> pcfreak30: oh maybe it was gtkrecordmydesktop that crashes then.  one of them crashes during video save, the other creates un-play-able videos. i just know istanbul "works" with certain settings
[06:44] <qhoxie> does anyone know of a centralized file sharing implementation that stores the files on the server?  like (s)ftp but with search, etc
[06:44] <Berzerker> bazhang, most excellent. thank you kindly.
[06:44] <maco> pcfreak30: i believe turning off istanbul's audio settings is one of the things that makes it work better
[06:44] <bazhang> Berzerker, you're welcome
[06:45] <Wiseman> so I'm installing XP in virtualbox....hoping for the best
[06:45] <Berzerker> now is there any way to move the battery indicator all the way to the right? to keep the system icons separate from the program icons?
[06:45] <cfedde> Wiseman: works well enough for me.
[06:45] <pcfreak30> macro, i might try it, i installed it, but i like rmd, its just somethings up with the encoding/capture. its horrible.
[06:45] <Berzerker> and the network icon
[06:45] <Wiseman> used to dual-boot, don't want to do that anymore
[06:45] <maco> Berzerker: program icons? programs shouldnt be in the notification area...
[06:45] <Berzerker> like pidgin and xchat
[06:45] <vince> maco : IPv6 is great.  The fact my ISP sucks is the problem
[06:46] <Berzerker> the tray icons
[06:46] <maco> Berzerker: also, i think the battery is its own applet, not part of the notification area
[06:46] <SmithX> maco: know why xrandr isn't showing 16:9 widescreen resolutions for my widescreen monitor?
[06:46] <duckwars> how can i use sudo permissions in the gui finder?
[06:46] <duckwars> gknautilus?
[06:46] <Berzerker> it's in the notification area, it moves with the area
[06:46] <maco> SmithX: likely your monitor isnt informing X that it can do them
[06:46] <bazhang> duckwars, why do you need to
[06:46] <SmithX> maco: so a driver problem? I know I can do it in windows xp
[06:46] <maco> SmithX: xrandr manpage has a way to add a mode
[06:46] <Voltaire> maco: Thanks got it, the f11 trick didn't work, i just switched to metacity.
[06:46] <error404notfound> bump!
[06:47] <orifice> hmm it looks like X is crashing when starting in non-failsafe mode.  I've diffed the X logs in failsafe and in normal modes and I only get the stacktrace as the diff.
[06:47] <bazhang> !gksudo > duckwars
[06:47] <orifice> Something else must be cause X to crash.
[06:47] <maco> SmithX: not the driver, but what the monitor lists as possible. windows is more inclined to list modes the monitor doesnt explicitly say it supports (which is why it reverts after 10 seconds automatically...in case it really doesnt support it)
[06:47] <bazhang> duckwars, be very careful using that
[06:47] <duckwars> bazhang: I'm trying to copy from one USB hard drive to another and I don't have the permissions to write to the spot I want to write to.  I need gui so I can see progress
[06:47] <duckwars> thanks
[06:47] <maco> Voltaire: ok well glad something worked for you
[06:47] <pcfreak30> maco,  dam istanbul works better. its could use tweaking boyt is good. dont know ehat rmd prob is.
[06:48] <SmithX> maco: you're an incredible source of wisdom--thanks
[06:48] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] Last night I used my laptop in a local computer club. Today: '~$  ip addr; 2: inet 192.168.178.11/24.' /etc/resolv.conf includes an entry 'nameserver 208.67.222.222'. Still Firefox can't find the server at e. g. projects.gnome.org. How to continue bug-squatting?
[06:48] <duckwars> wait, this gksudo won't work. I want to use the gui finder and drag and drop from one folder to another
[06:49] <maco> Berzerker: ohhh....ok see gnome calls that the notification area and any app that just lives in there instead of staying in the window list is in violation of the GNOME HIG ...ie "doin it wrong"...theyre only ever *supposed* to show up to tell you something and then go away when theyre done telling you that thing (such as "hey! you got a PM!" then disappear when you look at the PM)
[06:50] <Berzerker> I'm using the ubuntu netbook remix, btw, so I don't have a "window list" :P
[06:50] <Berzerker> well I kinda do
[06:50] <Schmitty> has anyone here used lxde?
[06:50] <maco> Berzerker: that long area at the top that lists what apps youre using :P
[06:50] <gartral> maco: you mean libnotify, yes? the notification area is wheree iconified apps live (Pidgin, the Ubuntu One Client) or am i wrong?
[06:50] <Berzerker> wouldn't that be at the bottom in gnome?
[06:50] <Berzerker> top in kde
[06:51] <maco> gartral: wrong. apps are NOT supposed to iconify in gnome. period.
[06:51] <maco> Berzerker: in UNR its all at the top, i thought
[06:51] <Berzerker> yeah
[06:51] <Berzerker> but it's not long. :P so that's why I got confused
[06:51] <maco> Berzerker: kde puts everything at the bottom. normal gnome puts notification at top and window list at bottom
[06:51] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:51] <Schmitty> who here likes lxde?
[06:51] <Berzerker> ah.
[06:51] <error404notfound> Schmitty, i do :D
[06:52] <Schmitty> k
[06:52] <c4pt> like this kernel or higher for pvops? 2.6.30-rc3-tip
[06:52] <Schmitty> im going to install it then
[06:52] <gartral> maco: then what are we supposed to do with pidgin, UOC, and wine apps? let them perma clutter our lower panels?
[06:52] <maco> gartral: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/desktop-notification-area.html.en
[06:52] <maco> gartral: yes
[06:52] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:52] <error404notfound> Schmitty, its light like XFCE and good looking, PCMAN is a great file manager
[06:52] <maco> gartral: or use workspaces as a third level divider for your windows. thats why they were invented
[06:53] <gartral> maco: even though when there in the lower panel they take up MORE ram than being iconified? what are those of us with 512 mb systems too ddo/
[06:53] <maco> gartral: the idea of putting a bunch of little icons so tiny theyre hard to differentiate and hit properly in one place is one of those bad things carried over from windows
[06:54] <maco> gartral: huh? how does the memory use change? are you suggesting # of pixels required to be colored in makes a difference?
[06:54]  * gartral runs a panel display at 1280x1024 and has no problem telling green pidgin icon from orange UOC
[06:54] <maco> gartral: what is UOC?
[06:54] <gartral> maco: no, but i notice a deffinate drop in memory usage when a program is iconified, versus when its minimized
[06:55] <maco> gartral: "The utility of the notification area decreases rapidly when more than about four icons are always present. For this reason, icons that appear only temporarily in response to events are preferable."
[06:55] <Zuzenak> does anyone know how to make a usb wireless mouse work with 8.10?
[06:55] <eross> i have AWN and screenlets running, I accidentally added a panel but the delete panel option is grayed out. How do i get rid of it? This looks like the original panel when I first installed jaunty, with the applications, folders, etc.
[06:55] <gartral> maco: Ubuntu One Client, i acronymized it like 5 lines back >.>
[06:55] <maco> gartral: i didnt know what you were acronymizing though :P
[06:55] <Berzerker> I like having a clean running app area. :P
[06:55] <maco> Berzerker: does UNR have workspaces?
[06:55] <Berzerker> now if only I could get thunderbird to iconify
[06:55] <Berzerker> no idea.
[06:55] <Berzerker> :D
[06:56] <maco> i never minimize OR iconify *shrug*
[06:56] <c4pt> where can i get a pvops ubuntu kernel from in a .deb package?
[06:56] <maco> i just have 9 workspaces
[06:56] <tbryant> My "NowPlaying" Screenlet doesn't work with Rhythmbox (or many other music players), can anyone help?
[06:56] <Berzerker> yeah I used spaces when I used OS X. it's handy.
[06:56] <fluurp> "just"
[06:56] <gartral> maco: considering that the UOC has no resident window, and the only way you know its running is the iconified proccess.. that self-defeats your statement
[06:56] <maco> Berzerker: we had 'em first :P
[06:56] <Berzerker> it's kinda awkward using it in linux though, no idea why. :P.....oh I know lol
[06:56] <Zuzenak> is pici around?
[06:56] <Berzerker> does anyone use alltray?
[06:57] <maco> gartral: that was a quote from the GNOME HIG.  the UOC was apparently developed without regard for GNOME...just like cross-platform apps like Pidgin & XChat.  Pidgin, however, is set to default to only showing an icon when you can get IM
[06:57] <Berzerker> tried to install that but it says I need gtk2.0 or something
[06:57] <eross> that's what I'm trying to do, i want to add more workspaces, how do I do that?
[06:57] <fluurp> on kubuntu i used it
[06:57] <turutosiya> hi
[06:57] <maco> Zuzenak: i think /whois would tell you that
[06:57] <turutosiya> how do i install ubuntu one into jaunty?
[06:57] <gartral> maco: ive never experienced that behavior
[06:57] <maco> gartral: is it a profile carried forward from before jaunty?
[06:58] <maco> gartral: new users in jaunty have that setting
[06:58] <Zuzenak>  because this is JimmyDee on zeus' account and I am trying to fix his problem
[06:58] <maco> eross: you need that panel to add more workspaces i think.
[06:58] <eross> sudo kill to get rid of gnome-panel worked
[06:58] <maco> eross: is the workspace switcher on the panel right now?
[06:58] <gartral> maco: nope, fresh install, and ive allaways seen the little green icon an it's allways turned too a yellow smiley face on message recived, and i used both the Ubuntu repos and the pidgin PPA
[06:58] <Berzerker> so what does ubuntu one do exactly?
[06:58] <maco> eross: er...ok then
[06:58] <eross> i can get it back
[06:59] <eross> where is it at maco?
[06:59] <maco> Berzerker: you put stuff in ~/Ubuntu\ One/ and then it gets uploaded to your storage space and then if you have another machine setup for it, you can pull it down there. its like large file transfer for people who dont have anywhere to ftp their stuff
[06:59]  * gartral thinks there is no problem with iconified proccesses
[06:59] <maco> Berzerker: IMO, it's NFS with a GUI
[06:59] <Berzerker> so...it's like iDisk
[07:00] <maco> eross: right click -> add to panel
[07:00] <maco> eross: add the workspace switcher
[07:00] <Zuzenak> ok how to upgrade ibex to jaunty?
[07:00] <maco> eross: then right click the workspace switcher and go to its properties. change the # of workspaces in there
[07:00] <gartral> maco: except that permissions arent stored with NFS and are with Ubuntu One
[07:00] <maco> eross: er...wait a second.... are you using compiz or metacity?
[07:00] <eross> compiz
[07:00] <prince_jammys> !upgrade > Zuzenak
[07:00] <Berzerker> maco, what's the default key to switch workspaces
[07:01] <maco> eross: oh. then you can set it in compiz instead. do you have the really ugly compiz configuration thing?
[07:01] <maco> eross: the one that's confusing, not the simple one?
[07:01] <maco> Berzerker: ctrl alt + left/right
[07:01] <gartral> Berzerker: ctrl+alt+left/right/up/down
[07:01] <Berzerker> maco, this concludes our test of the emergency broadcast system. yes UNR does in fact have workspaces. :D
[07:02] <eross> no it just gives me 3 options, basic, nice, or extreme.. something like that
[07:02] <Zuzenak> could someone tell me how to dist upgrade?
[07:02] <gartral> gives Berzerker a tracker cookie
[07:02] <prince_jammys> !upgrade > Zuzenak
[07:02] <Berzerker> wewt.
[07:02] <maco> eross: ok install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:02]  * gartral watches Berzerker through the cookie
[07:02] <Berzerker> Zuzenak, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:02]  * Berzerker eats it.
[07:03]  * fluurp is yellous
[07:03]  * gartral watches Berzerker guts... "Mmmm... Gutsy"
[07:03] <maco> eross: and umm *thinking* itll go into system -> preferences -> advanced effects?
[07:03]  * Berzerker downgrades to 7.10
[07:03] <redbrain> hey what kind of permissions would make a user unable to cd out of there home dir and just give them access denied
[07:04] <prince_jammys> cd to where?
[07:04] <maco> eross: then in there there's a general section...um go to the first section of settings at the top....then in one of the tabs it gives you, there'll be a question about "horizontal virtual size" ... set that to the # of workspaces you want
[07:04] <prince_jammys> redbrain: missing the executable bit on a dir
[07:04] <maco> redbrain: if you want to restrict them to their own home, look at setting their default shell to rbash (restricted bourne again shell)
[07:05] <maco> redbrain: i believe thats one of its features
[07:05] <Zuzenak> thank you priest
[07:05] <redbrain> yeah i have put any extra users into a jail kit chroot
[07:05] <redbrain> but just wondering does it make sense to use rbash in there
[07:05] <prince_jammys> ah, i thought the inability to cd was a problem, but it's what he wants
[07:06] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] Last night I used my laptop in a local computer club. Today: '~$  ip addr; 2: inet 192.168.178.11/24.' /etc/resolv.conf includes an entry 'nameserver 208.67.222.222'. Still Firefox can't find the server at e. g. projects.gnome.org. How to continue bug-squatting?
[07:06] <Berzerker> if you're a user on a multiple user computer, then yes, that is what someone would want.
[07:06] <oguncak> hello my friends. what can i do to add a right-click menu entry "open as root" for a folder? for example, when i want to enter the /bin and make changes, it does not let me. i want to right click and select "open as root" and do my work.!!
[07:06] <Berzerker> oguncak, use terminal
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, open up synaptic and search for nautilus, you will see several scripts you can install, open as root is one of them
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, or sudo nautilus
[07:07] <Berzerker> is there a fix for the "open containing folder" option in the firefox downloads window?
[07:07] <Berzerker> asks me what program to open it with and lists non.
[07:07] <oguncak> ok thanks, i'll check out.
[07:07] <Berzerker> none*
[07:08] <tuxwulf> Is there an applet which shows harddisk activity in the panel, or some such desktop place?
[07:08] <eross> that's it, thanks
[07:09] <collimic> ok so here is a question I cannot seam to find an answer to. When I log into ubuntu server 8.10 it gives me a short bit of system information. what is the command to make that redisplay if I ever need to look at it.
[07:10] <prince_jammys> cat /etc/motd
[07:10] <pog> hello, I have a problem with a printer, after changing the ink, the printer-functions (like copy) work, but a print from a ubuntu always say "ink low". where the status of the ink is stored? How can I reset it?.
[07:10] <kust0m> here's a related motd question.. what rebuilds the motd to show the available package updates, etc?
[07:10] <collimic> the information it give si system load, Swap usage, users logged in, usage of /, Temperature, Memory usage and processes.
[07:11] <bazhang> kindofabuzz, gksudo for graphical apps, and warn of the dangers of using with nautilus
[07:11] <shah16> collimic: dmesg ??
[07:11] <bazhang> tuxwulf, conky?
[07:11] <prince_jammys> collimic: ah, that must be a new thing
[07:11] <pietro> hey
[07:11] <prince_jammys> new-ish, since my release is old
[07:11] <kust0m> collimic: if you just want to see what was shown at login "cat /etc/motd" seems to work for me on a 9.04 system
[07:11] <collimic> if I look in the motd file it is there. how can i recreate it?
[07:11] <AlexanderAzimov> Good night all!
[07:11] <tuxwulf> bazhang: .. thanks, I'll look!
[07:11] <pietro> hey guys
[07:12] <bazhang> tuxwulf, great thread on the forums on how to set up from scratch
[07:12] <collimic> cat .etc.motd is the information that is showed. is there a way to get updated info?
[07:12] <pietro> i don`t know where i am
[07:12] <shah16> collimic : try dmesg
[07:12] <kust0m> shah16: right, but what actually causes the file to be rebuild/regenerated?
[07:12] <prince_jammys> heh, he'll be bombarded with info
[07:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 tuxwulf
[07:13] <bazhang> pietro, ubuntu support channel
[07:13] <joejc> is it possible to make a icon for a folder like desktop?
[07:13] <pietro> ok thank you bazhang
[07:13] <pietro> is like a live forum
[07:13] <Berzerker> who uses xchat here?
[07:14] <joejc> i might
[07:14] <shah16> kust0m: collimic asked in his question " what is the command to make that redisplay if I ever need to look at it"
[07:14] <bazhang> pietro, yes support forum for Ubuntu OS, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:14] <orifice> so I've narrowed the problem down to gnome-settings-daemon
[07:14] <oguncak> when i click to open an mp3 file, it uses directly totem player. how can i assign rhythmbox as the default player for music files?
[07:14] <joejc> version me if u want, im on a freinds comp and everything is odd
[07:14] <eepberries> Why would my non-administrative user account not be able to find my connected scanner? It works fine with my main acount, but when I use a non-admin account, SANE can't find my scanner
[07:14] <pietro> ok perfect
[07:14] <Berzerker> irssi
[07:14] <pietro> thank you again
[07:15] <joejc> it has a gui
[07:15] <bazhang> oguncak, right click properties?
[07:15] <kindofabuzz> oguncak, right click it and choose properties and you will see
[07:15] <kust0m> collimic: try running "update-motd"
[07:15] <joejc> when did irssi get a gui?
[07:15] <pietro> maybe i come back if i ll need it
[07:15] <pietro> bye
[07:15] <Berzerker> no idea?
[07:15] <Berzerker> says you're on irssi
[07:15] <kust0m> irssi has a gui?
[07:15] <bazhang> no of course not
[07:15] <lstarnes> I think there were plans for irssi to have a gui
[07:16] <collimic> Just an FYI do not make a typo in the fstab it is not easy too fix after you reboot. lol
[07:16] <joejc> is it possible to make a icon for a folder like desktop?
[07:16] <kust0m> collimic: i tend to check that with "mount -a" after i make changes. might be a better way, not sure.
[07:16] <collimic> It is. I just forgot to run it . lol
[07:18] <oguncak> thanks, it worked. and another help; for the music folders, how can i assign a right-click entry as "open with rhythmbox"? (however, that mentioned a little bit windows, sorry.. but it is useful!!)
[07:19] <SmithX> maco: I added a new modeline and got the resolution I wanted
[07:19] <bazhang> oguncak, check preferred applications, and assign there if you wish
[07:19] <SmithX> however, I have one minor problem--my desktop image didn't scale accordingly (or rather it scaled too much and now it's too big for my resolution)
[07:19] <nman> Hi does anyone know if there's a way to make my server act as a usb slave drive?  e.g. if I have a media player that can connect a usb drive, can I make it connect and play files off my server?
[07:20] <Jeruvy> oguncak: http://www.foogazi.com/2007/11/05/adding-shortcuts-to-the-right-click-menu-in-ubuntu/
[07:20] <kust0m> nman: i'm betting that would take some hardcore hardware hacking (say that 3 times fast..)
[07:20] <bazhang> nman, a media server? such as mediatomb?
[07:20] <bazhang> !info mediatomb
[07:21] <leaf-sheep> nman: Maybe you want !sshfs
[07:21] <kust0m> 96k? wow.
[07:21] <maco> SmithX: i have no idea about that one. sorry
[07:21] <SmithX> maco: that's alright--you gave me a ton of help tonight
[07:21] <leaf-sheep> !sshfs | nman
[07:25] <SmithX> is it possible to read historical messages from this channel? such as during the time I was disconnected?
[07:25] <bazhang> !1984 > SmithX
[07:25] <nman> I'd like to know too, I got disconnected
[07:25] <bazhang> nman, /msg ubottu logs
[07:26] <greyz`> Yes, you can do that, but first you must obtain the orb of Kackalash.  Good luck with THAT.
[07:26] <losher> !1984
[07:27] <qhoxie> does anyone know of a file sharing system that stores the files on a central server? like samba or ftp with search, etc
[07:29] <losher> qhoxie: do you mean nfs ? That's a common way to server files on linux...
[07:29] <qhoxie> losher: no i mean something like directconnect or waste but storing on a central server
[07:30] <bird7> 0.0
[07:30] <SmithX> how does one update their apt cache?
[07:30] <SmithX> I don't see firefox3.5 in it
[07:30] <pog> does anybody know how to find someting in a "weechat" ?
[07:30] <bazhang> SmithX, what version of ubuntu
[07:30] <lstarnes> SmithX: it should be firefox-3.5
[07:31] <apoleo12> hawlo
[07:31] <SmithX> bazhang: nubuntu 8.12 Beta candidate
[07:31] <bazhang> SmithX, Ubuntu?
[07:31] <SmithX> bazhang: no, nubuntu
[07:31] <apoleo12> Where can I have my pointer size bigger?
[07:31] <tuxwulf> !nubuntu
[07:31] <bazhang> SmithX, that's not Ubuntu
[07:31] <iceblock> you feel my soul, you always wth me when im on my own, you give me life, darkness gives me light and life
[07:32] <bazhang> iceblock, please take chat elsewhere
[07:32] <SmithX> bazhang: it's a different distribution of ubuntu, like kubuntu or xubuntu
[07:32] <bazhang> SmithX, downloaded from www.ubuntu.com ?
[07:32] <lstarnes> SmithX: I don't think it's an official variant
[07:32] <iceblock> baz: jelly since im in the nightclub relaying my fun
[07:32] <SmithX> bazhang: it can't find firefox-3.5, either--I know there must be a way to update the cache
[07:33] <iceblock> pussy
[07:33] <bazhang> !ot > iceblock
[07:33] <losher> SmithX: their web page talks about #zdsec
[07:33] <bazhang> iceblock, no need for that language here
[07:33] <Jeruvy> !ot | iceblock
[07:33] <SmithX> losher: updating the cache should be general to ubuntu
[07:33] <bazhang> SmithX, ask in nubuntu support channel
[07:33] <iceblock> im parting enjoy the kiwi love
[07:33] <SmithX> bazhang: there's no one there, unfortunatley
[07:34] <losher> SmithX: I don't make the rules about what's on or off topic...
[07:34] <bazhang> SmithX, all the more reason to get Ubuntu
[07:35] <SmithX> bazhang: nubuntu should have all the same packages as ubuntu
[07:36] <SmithX> it's the same thing as ubuntu--it's just a certain set of installed packages
[07:36] <bazhang> SmithX, #nubuntu NOT here
[07:36] <eut> banshee, amarok, or gtkpod? any opinions?
[07:36] <bazhang> eut, for what
[07:36] <apoleo12> Where can I have my pointer size bigger anybody?
[07:36] <SmithX> ok, different question: how does one update the ubuntu cache? (I just downloaded ubuntu and installed it)
[07:36] <bazhang> apoleo12, cursor?
[07:37] <eut> bazhang, for personal preference, these seem to be the popular 3 options and i wanted to get some advice on what works best for you
[07:37] <bazhang> eut, for syncing iPod? banshee
[07:37] <tohsh> How would I tell the transmission-daemon to autostart on reboot?
[07:37] <fluurp> brb
[07:37] <apoleo12> bazhang: yes
[07:37] <eut> bazhang, yeah, i just want to get some music on it. its a nano 16g
[07:37] <gartral> bazhang: whats the difference between asking a support question about nubuntu and xubuntu here if the core packages and kernal are the same?
[07:38] <bazhang> eut, banshee should do, best to try it out
[07:38] <SmithX> wait, did I say nubuntu? I'm sorry, I made a type--I have plain ubuntu
[07:38] <eut> bazhang, ok, thanks.
[07:38] <losher> SmithX: well, why didn't you say so in the first place.... :-)
[07:38] <p-f> what are the odds of my setup bursting into flames if I upgrade from 6.06.2 straight to 9.04?
[07:38] <bazhang> !derivatives > gartral
[07:38] <apoleo12> buz: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:38] <SmithX> losher: sorry, I'm just a noob
[07:38] <apoleo12> ive forgotten where tho?
[07:38] <bazhang> p-f, dont do it. will break. /msg ubottu upgrade
[07:39] <iceblock1> yaay back
[07:39] <bazhang> iceblock1, stay on topic
[07:39] <iceblock1> ok brain eggs
[07:39] <apoleo12> bua: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:39] <iceblock1> why dosent my 4870X2 work
[07:39] <apoleo12> bazhang: i keep gettin smaller pointer after i had it resized a notch or two then revbooted and returned to aorginal size
[07:39] <apoleo12> oops sorry
[07:39] <iceblock1> give me the answer
[07:40] <bazhang> iceblock1, that makes no sense
[07:40] <iceblock1> why dosent my 4870x2 work in ubuntu
[07:40] <iceblock1> come on
[07:40] <iceblock1> i want a answer
[07:40] <kindofabuzz> what is a 4870x2?
[07:40] <iceblock1> of course not
[07:40] <FloodBot3> iceblock1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:40] <iceblock1> you dont even have one
[07:40] <rfreiberger> how do I execute a shell script?
[07:40] <bazhang> apoleo12, themes customize pointer (right click change background
[07:41] <gartral> iceblock1: we cant provide an answer unless you tell us what the ambiguated modle number refers to device wise
[07:41] <rww> I believe a 4870x2 means two ATI Radeon HD 4870s working in CrossFire mode.
[07:41] <iceblock1> how do i makre my sapphire 4870X2 work in ubuntu 9.04
[07:41] <iceblock1> you ediot
[07:41] <kindofabuzz> ban this fool
[07:41] <gartral> !atittude | iceblock1
[07:41] <bazhang> iceblock1, no need for the language
[07:41] <gartral> !attitude | iceblock1
[07:41] <shah16> rfreiberger: ./<filename> , make sure to chmod +x before executing
[07:41] <kindofabuzz> no one even knows what a 4870X2 is
[07:42] <apoleo12> bazhang: OMG! i missed that!
[07:42] <iceblock1> now idiots a lang, fools, thats why lixs, is a lowered version of all OS in the worls
[07:42] <redbrain> hey what permissions shoudl you give webapps so apache can write to them instead of just doing chmod 777 which cant be the right way
[07:42] <apoleo12> i got that now thanks baz
[07:42] <fluurp>  4870X2 is a fan
[07:42] <rww> Or, rather, two RV770 GPUs (the GPUs from the 4870) on one card. Or something else silly like that.
[07:42] <kindofabuzz> iceblock1, speak english
[07:42] <Zxcvb> what would cause slow (over 10 minutes) restoration from hibernating?
[07:43] <kindofabuzz> slow ram?
[07:43] <gartral> wow.. we need an anti-flamer sheild
[07:43] <p-f> bazhang, thanks, it's exactly what I needed :)
[07:43] <rww> gartral: We do, they're called ops, they do their job pretty well :p
[07:43] <redbrain> hey what permissions shoudl you give webapps so apache can write to them instead of just doing chmod 777 which cant be the right way
[07:43] <gartral> Zxcvb: either very slow (or bad) ram, or more commonly, an Nvidia gfx card with nvidia drivers version 180
[07:44] <rww> redbrain: chown then to user and group www-data, then chmod 770.
[07:44] <adroel> #Mataram
[07:44] <losher> SmithX: just google ubuntu firefox 3.5 ok?
[07:45] <adroel> help !!!! i am a newbie, i don't know how to compile a tar.gz format
[07:45] <ONR|> !list
[07:45] <gartral> !source | adroel
[07:45] <Zxcvb> gartral: oddly enough, the image restores much faster (percentage goes up faster) if I just hold enter
[07:46] <losher> adroel: what's it a tar.gz of?
[07:46] <gartral> i think we broke ubottu with that one
[07:46] <adroel> fire fox-3.5
[07:46] <rww> !ff35
[07:46] <bazhang> adroel, what version of ubuntu
[07:46] <redbrain> rww: so is it adduser <user> www-data then chown the files user:www-data then chmod 770?
[07:46] <gartral> somone reboot the bot!
[07:46] <adroel> 9.04
[07:47] <bazhang> firefox-3.5 is in the repos adroel
[07:47] <ONR|> um
[07:47] <losher> adroel: are you really planning to compile from source? THere are easier ways to get ff3.5
[07:47] <jado> does someone know a linux software to play piano (with the computer keyboard)?
[07:47] <ONR|> file serving
[07:47] <rww> redbrain: that'd work, yeah.
[07:47] <ONR|> where
[07:47] <bazhang> ONR|, what files
[07:47] <gartral> ubottu: is flooding
[07:47] <SmithX> losher: ah, what I'm reading says that firefox-3.5 hasn't been packaged yet
[07:47] <ONR|> muse new album
[07:48] <SmithX> thought I read about someone installing it with apt-get here earlier
[07:48] <Zxcvb> gartral: any idea why holding down a key such as enter would speed restoring from hibernation?
[07:48] <adroel> ok thank's, i'll try it
[07:48] <redbrain> rww: thanks man :) problem was i didnt do the chown of the files i just adduser to www-data and hoped it would work doh! :P
[07:48] <losher> SmithX: see ubottu's msg above...
[07:48] <maco> SmithX: firefox-3.5 exists on jaunty and is default on karmic
[07:48] <adroel> BTW i luv ubuntu very much
[07:48] <gartral> SmithX: its not...as ff3.5... its shiretoko.. mozilla's prerelease name
[07:48] <bazhang> ONR|, wrong channel
[07:48] <ONR|> sry
[07:48] <ONR|> where ..
[07:48] <rww> !piracy | ONR|
[07:48] <tohsh> I accidently locked my firewall and can't ssh into the server. Anyway around this without getting remote support?
[07:48] <gartral> Zxcvb: not without knowing the models numbers and charecteristics of all your hardware
[07:48] <lstarnes> ONR|: this network does not have file sharing
[07:49]  * fluurp lol'd
[07:49] <ONR|> no no freenode .... have to file serving bot
[07:49] <losher> tohsh: can't think of one, unless you have another way in....
[07:49] <bazhang> ONR|, stop please
[07:49] <ONR|> yes.
[07:49] <hellhound> can someone help me with a script that checks if a process is running and if it is not then perform a command?  so far I have t='bin/pid of wine' while [ -n "$t" ] do t='/bin/pidof wine' done   if [ -z "$t" ] then ...blah blah.... fi   exit 0        but it does not seem to be working
[07:50] <SmithX> losher, maco, gartral: thanks for the info
[07:50] <gartral> hellhound: pastebin the script, it looks like your omitting quite alot with "... Blah blah..."
[07:50] <Zxcvb> gartral: going to try setting nohz=off, do you know if there is a way to do that without rebooting?
[07:50] <SmithX> I didn't know the package repositories were different for different releases
[07:51] <adroel> ASK!!! how could i restore my ubuntu when some thing wrong happen, please email me at adidesigner@hotmail.com
[07:51] <losher> SmithX: good job it wasn't for nubuntu, eh?
[07:51] <SmithX> I would have thought all releases/distros would all draw from the same set of repros
[07:51] <gartral> Zxcvb: not without knowing what nohz is  :\
[07:51] <bazhang> adroel, sbackup?
[07:51] <Zxcvb> gartral: disables the tickless kernel
[07:51] <kust0m> SmithX: different libs and whatnot
[07:51] <EagleScreen> adroel: try partimage
[07:51] <maco> SmithX: things'd break if they tried to all share the same libs
[07:52] <gartral> Zxcvb: no.. i dont belive you can swap kernels without haveing a xen hypermonitor
[07:52] <Zxcvb> garatral: it's a kernel option, much like acpi=off
[07:52] <Schmitty> how do I stop x
[07:52] <gartral> Zxcvb: thats still considered a kernal swap
[07:52] <Zxcvb> oh well
[07:52] <SmithX> maco, kust0m: I guess, but still I'd think the package manager would resolve all dependencies and versions and libraries that you need
[07:52] <maxagaz> is it possible to disable window decoration for epiphany in gconf, or do I have to use devilspie ?
[07:52] <bazhang> !sbackup > adroel
[07:52] <gartral> Schmitty: /etc/init.d gdm stop
[07:53] <oguncak> hi friends. i wanted to listen to a radio on the internet, and it put two options "play with windows media player / winamp". when i tried wmp to play it, firefox made a search for a suitable plugin and couldn't find one. how can i solve this problem? can i play that stream using totem or sth else?
[07:53] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: open a terminal, type in there " sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" instead that you using gdm
[07:53] <maco> SmithX: there are certain versions in each release. if you grab a binary built for one release and try to use it on a different release, it may be VERY unhappy
[07:53] <kust0m> oguncak: if you use the winamp version it will use mp3 streams
[07:53] <kust0m> oguncak: most likely, at least
[07:53] <gartral> oguncak: try VLC... or perhaps Mplayer
[07:53] <SmithX> maco: that's true--it's all precompiled I guess
[07:54] <maco> SmithX: exactly. is not gentoo :P
[07:54] <losher> SmithX: and that just between-release compatibility. Between-distro compatibilty would be an order of magnitude more work....
[07:54] <hellhound> gartral, here you go http://pastebin.com/m32e76740
[07:54] <crx686> Hi I have ubuntu server running with ebox. I have my website up but I'm having a problem trying to copy my webpages to the server it says i have no permission to copy my pages over. Does anyone know how to copy webpages over?
[07:54] <SmithX> I guess I'll just need to compile from source
[07:54] <Stargazer> how can i look at my comp's temps?
[07:55] <oguncak> when i chose the winamp option, it says: [playlist] NumberOfEntries=1 File1=http://strm-2.uk.medianova.tv:4000 .... and stuck..
[07:55] <gartral> molasses-fox
[07:55] <Kartagis> !pidgin
[07:55] <losher> SmithX: hope you have lots of cpu. ff is massive...
[07:55] <Kartagis> !msn
[07:55] <gartral> !slow
[07:55] <ortsvorsteher> !amsn | kartagis
[07:56] <ortsvorsteher> !info amsn
[07:56] <Schmitty> ortsvorsteher: i am using twm
[07:56] <losher> gartral: which latest edition is that?
[07:56] <Kartagis> there is a problem with msn's notification server on pidgin
[07:56] <Zxcvb> oddly enough, nohz=off fixed the slow boot problem
[07:57] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: so stop x with the script under /etc/init.d ( may its twm ) . Do you install new drivers for your graphic card?
[07:57] <SmithX> thanks for the help, everyone!
[07:57] <SmithX> new question:
[07:57] <Zxcvb> now if only I could figure out why after hibernating, my battery goes from 100% to 50%
[07:57] <losher> !ask | SmithX
[07:57] <SmithX> is there a way to forge my OS identity? e.g. instead of saying I have ubuntu, webpages and such think I have windows XP
[07:57] <gartral> hellhound: umm.. are you forgetting to point to the executable somewhere in there? also, i believe, cedega, like wine, requires the definition of it's ENV path too work
[07:58] <Schmitty> ortsvorsteher: so i just installed fluxbox and I can't run it until i kill the current twm session
[07:58] <lstarnes> Schmitty: you could try changing your browser's useragent string
[07:58] <SmithX> yessier ubottu--just a habit from lesser frequented channels
[07:58] <gartral> bazhang: did kick that man simply for his username?
[07:59] <adroel> ASK !!! what is recomended tool for download manager as fast as IDM on windows?
[07:59] <fluurp> can i "replace" totem and rythmbox with vlc media player? i mean : JUST HAVE vlc for mp3's and movies?
[07:59] <ortsvorsteher> Schmitty: may you press ctrl + alt + backspace?
[07:59] <losher> SmithX: I believe that's commonly done by various browsers to fool various sites. See lstarnes msg above
[07:59] <gartral> adroel: flashgot or downthemall
[07:59] <SmithX> lstarnes: useragent string just affects browser, right? or does it contain os version as well?
[07:59] <lstarnes> SmithX: at the protocol level, it contains OS info
[08:00] <lstarnes> SmithX: you might need to install an extension for useragent switching
[08:00] <lstarnes> SmithX: otherwise, look for useragent in about:config
[08:00] <gartral> SmithX: it ussualy contains OS version, and some other info, but IE (8 especially) is known for only sending the version of the web browser
[08:00] <jado> hi, i'm trying to install the source from there: http://vmpk.sourceforge.net/#Download but when i write 'cmake' i get the help of cmake i am asked a path or something
 is it resumable?
[08:01] <lstarnes> jado: cmake .
[08:01] <lstarnes> jado: remember the . in there
[08:01] <gartral> adroel: only if the stream your downloading from's host allows you to resume
[08:01] <Pranky> Vmware or Vmplayer for ubuntu 9.04
[08:01] <jado> lstarnes: i get this: http://pastebin.com/f5b571057
[08:02] <SmithX> I'm not just saying this, but I'm really impressed by the level of knowledge in this room
[08:02] <SmithX> sure enough--checking about:config, I see that my user agent string has "ubuntu" in it
[08:02] <lstarnes> jado: read the errors that come before it
[08:02] <fluurp> thats why im repeating this
[08:02] <fluurp> can i "replace" totem and rythmbox with vlc media player? i mean : JUST HAVE vlc for mp3's and movies?
[08:02] <SmithX> IE just confuses the issue by hiding part of it
[08:02] <hellhound> gartral, hummmm the game runs fine and the xset r off works as well... but when I am done with the game it will not run the command xset on which is why i think the while loop is not working correctly
[08:02] <bazhang> Pranky, vmware-server -workstation or -player? for what?
[08:03] <Pranky> player
[08:03] <rfreiberger> has anyone worked with Wine in Ubuntu 9? I am having issues running any Win game
[08:03] <jado> lstarnes: i'm sorry i messed the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252340/
[08:03] <bazhang> Pranky, dont see an actual question there
[08:03] <shahzad> hi i need help for hibernate problem with my ubuntu jaunty
[08:03] <Schmitty> how do I set what window manager will start? I need to make this change in shell
[08:03] <Pranky> bazhang, I want VMplayer to run other os in ubuntu 9.04
[08:03] <bazhang> rfreiberger, check the appdb and help in #winehq
[08:03] <bazhang> !appdb | rfreiberger
[08:03] <lstarnes> jado: you might not have the right Qt development packages
[08:04] <hellhound> gartral, i do not know if the loop is the problem or the way it is identifying if wine is running... i have my system monitor up and i see when a wine process is running and when it stops
[08:04] <jado> lstarnes: qmake --version says that Qt is at 4.5.2
[08:04] <lstarnes> jado: that doesn't mean that you have all the development files
[08:05] <jado> lstarnes: but i think i have them since i've compiled kdevelop4 (i needed a lot of dev files for this one)
[08:05] <bazhang> Pranky, with or without usb support
[08:05] <Stargazer> how can i look at my comp's temps?
[08:05] <lstarnes> jado: what about libqt4-dev ?
[08:05] <jado> lstarnes: yes i have it
[08:05] <Pranky> bazhang, with usb support
[08:05] <shafi_> I have some broken packages , and now I can not install any package on my laptop, I have also tried apt-get install -f but I am getting this error : "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages."
[08:06] <bazhang> Pranky, there is also virtualbox to consider then.
[08:06] <lstarnes> jado: I'm not sure how to fix the error that you got then
[08:06] <lstarnes> jado: you may need to run ccmake . first
[08:06] <Pranky> bazhang, can you send me url or name where I can download
[08:07] <bazhang> Pranky, virtualbox-ose (no usb support) in repos, with usb ---> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[08:07] <jado> lstarnes: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7420/ccmake.png
[08:08] <lstarnes> jado: press c, then prss g
[08:08] <lstarnes> *press
[08:08] <Pranky> ok, Thanks
[08:08] <adroel> WANTED !!! I am a newbie, but i think i just fallin in love wit ubuntu, and i need someone to be my guide, please send me an email adress who can i ask in case of i got a trouble with my ubuntu
[08:09] <hellhound> gardar, any ideas?
[08:09] <bazhang> adroel, better to read a guide book, let me get you a link
[08:09] <bazhang> argh
[08:09] <lstarnes> adroel: asking in this channel or the forums usually works
[08:09] <shafi_> how to recover broken packages
[08:09] <jado> lstarnes: presing c shows me a window with the same error than just before; and then pressing g gives nothing
[08:09] <shafi_> ?
[08:09]  * apoleo12 pats bazhang's back
[08:10] <SmithX> hmmm--I just downloaded the tar.bz2 from firefox.com, untarred, and it runs without a problem
[08:10] <SmithX> i wonder how in the world that worked
[08:11] <losher> shafi_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-320934.html
[08:11] <jado> lstarnes: what about this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/637079/cmake-compilation-error-unknown-cmake-command-qt4wrapui
[08:11] <SmithX> according to my user agent string, I'm using ubuntu intrepid
[08:11] <lstarnes> jado: I'm not sure how to use that
[08:11] <SmithX> what's everybody's favorite firefox addon?
[08:11] <SmithX> Mine's got to be vimperator
[08:12] <losher> SmithX: they make a fairly generic compilation for ff that runs on most linuxes, so I'm not entirely surprised.
[08:12] <jado> lstarnes: hm i deleted the CMakeCache and now it began to work
[08:12] <fluurp> mine is spellcheck, lol
[08:12] <prodigel> hi all. I want monitor the data transfered from my computer during some http requests, to make sure it's done through ssl. do you know such tools i can install?
[08:12] <jado> lstarnes: --   package 'alsa>=1.0' not found
[08:12] <lstarnes> prodigel: you could try wireshark
[08:12] <P_Kable> hi , I want to install kubuntu clean and keep my /home from ubuntu, will I still have eveything in place after installing kubuntu ?
[08:12] <gartral> prodigel: wireshark
[08:12] <SmithX> fluurp: spellcheck isn't an addon, it's part of firefox
[08:13] <jado> lstarnes: but alsa is already the newest version
[08:13] <SmithX> prodigel: you can use wireshark, tcpdump, ettercap, ...
[08:13]  * fluurp failed
[08:13] <lstarnes> jado: it's probably looking for the development files for it
[08:13] <gartral> SmithX: its aspell... packaged with ff
[08:13] <prodigel> SmithX, which is easier to use?
[08:14] <SmithX> prodigel: wireshark definitely
[08:14] <prodigel> SmithX, for my purpose at least
[08:14] <prodigel> SmithX, thanks.
[08:14] <prodigel> gartral, thank you
[08:14] <jado> lstarnes: alsa-source?
[08:14] <oDesk> hello all
[08:14] <prodigel> lstarnes, thank you too ;)
[08:14] <lstarnes> jado: I don't know what the package is
[08:14] <shafi_> losher: I have tried but I am getting this error: "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies"
[08:14] <lstarnes> prodigel: you might need to run it as root, but I'm not entirely sure
[08:15] <prodigel> lstarnes, that's no issue
[08:15] <jado> lstarnes: maybe this: libasound2-dev - shared library for ALSA applications. Development files
[08:15] <Caerbannog> hello
[08:15] <lstarnes> jado: that might be it
[08:15] <losher> shafi_: I've never seen your particular error before, so I think it's comparatively rare. Keep googling is your best bet...
[08:16] <oDesk> using wget http://someurl.com/123.pdf  would save the file as 123.pdf, sometimes the filename dynamicaly generated and it's also saved as 123.pdf ... iwant to keep the dynamically generated file name .. how to ?
[08:16] <SmithX> why does firefox not look as clean as it does on windows? is it the window manager/themes i'm using?
[08:16] <jado> lstarnes: thanks that's working :)
[08:16] <jigs> How to make memory usage in MB and not in % on CONKY system monitor?
[08:17] <hellhound> gardar, any suggestions after looking at the script.  The game (cedega) runs fine but when I close the game it does not seem that the scripts goes through the while loop or the way the loop is checking if a program is running is not working not sure which
[08:18] <losher> hellhound: add some echo statements so you can debug the thing...
[08:20] <SmithX> and yet another question: why does fullscreen mode revert to normal mode whenever I switch desktops?
[08:20] <apoleo12> because it comes out of it
[08:20] <SmithX> I love running ff vimperator in fullscreen mode, but it's a pain to have to keep putting it back into it every time I switch desktops
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <apoleo12> press F11 at one keystroke if you can blindfold it
[08:22] <oDesk> i mean to download the file and save it using the server-suggested filename? using wget ?howto?
[08:22] <SmithX> I always have to look at the keboard to find F11, plus that's painful
[08:22] <SmithX> there must be a way to keep it fullscreen
[08:22] <shafi_> is it possible to edit the list of broken packages manually?
[08:23] <shafi_> via a text file or somthing similar?
[08:23] <apoleo12> look at every time?
[08:24] <apoleo12> SmithX: but you know, mine's seem to stay at fullscreen whenever I go
[08:24] <greyz`> `
[08:24] <losher> shafi_: you can edit /var/lib/dpkg/status *carefully*. Make a backup of it before you start...
[08:24] <hellhound> losher, gardar, ok I added comments (http://pastebin.com/m75a2b4ca) in the terminal i see the comment "Starting Game" and "Start of Loop" but then I get a  hanging cursor and no other comments or action
[08:25] <SmithX> apoleo12: maybe it's a fluxbox thing or something then
[08:25] <apoleo12> what is that anyway? music software?
[08:25] <lstarnes> apoleo12: fluxbox is a window manager
[08:25] <shambat> hi all, I am looking at a tcpdump on my DHCP machine, and I see these messages: http://pastebin.com/m426233e1 are the DHCP messages not coming through from my end?
[08:25] <apoleo12> oh
[08:25] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox apoleo12
[08:26] <losher> hellhound: echo $t each time you set it also to see what values it's getting...
[08:26] <apoleo12> ok checking it now...
[08:27] <losher> shambat: looks to me like A is sending dhcp requests and B is replying saying that it has been configured not to reply. firewall? dhcp server not running?
[08:28] <hellhound> losher, ok the terminal just keeps spitting out "/bin/pidof wine"
[08:29] <apoleo12> is it me or tonight is slow than ever?
[08:29] <losher> hellhound: ah, an important clue. You need backticks not single quotes t = `/bin/pidof wine`
[08:30] <hellhound> losher, what re backticks?  these "  ?
[08:30] <lstarnes> hellhound: or t = $(/bin/pidof wine)
[08:30] <lstarnes> hellhound: a `
[08:31] <losher> hellhound: on my keyboard, it's the key *under* the ESC key.
[08:31] <apoleo12> technically under the tilde
[08:31] <apoleo12> but yeah...
[08:32] <losher> hellhound: yeah, what apoleo12 said...
[08:32] <hellhound> losher, lstarnes, gardar,  awesome that worked!!!!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!
[08:33]  * losher says: "ah, the small victories..."
[08:34] <shambat> losher: so I need to setup my iptables to accept those DHCP requests then I guess
[08:34] <sluurp> omg my ubuntu just ferezed >_<
[08:34] <sluurp> *freezed
[08:35] <losher> shambat: yes, or they'll never reach your dhcp server. Note the "admin prohibited" in the icmp msg...
[08:36] <losher> sluurp: froze
[08:36] <jado> i'm currently trying vmpk (virtual midi piano keyboard) and it seems that i have a midi problem since i have no sound
[08:37] <sluurp> yeye, im sorry
[08:37] <apoleo12> or frozed ;)
[08:37] <losher> apoleo12: please try not to confuse the non-native speakers. Or the Americans...
[08:38] <apoleo12> I thought it was unified?
[08:38] <Karmic> Hey guys I recive a nasty error when I try to install PacketTracer in Karmic(Alpha3) dpkg: error processing PacketTracer-5.2-u.i386.deb (--install):
[08:38] <Karmic>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/local/PacketTracer5/lib/libQtWebKit.so.4.4.3') what is the problem ?
[08:38] <sluurp> hes not confusing me he is correcting me
[08:39] <losher> apoleo12: see what you're done now?
[08:39] <kust0m> Karmic: what app are you using to install?
[08:39] <losher> apoleo12: you're -> you've
[08:39] <apoleo12> what? he was praising now!
[08:39] <sluurp> stop
[08:39] <sluurp> :)
[08:39] <apoleo12> haha
[08:40] <apoleo12> Slurpee: so it has "frozed" but you're still here...?
[08:41] <Karmic> kust0m: the PacketTracer it's a .bin package and install it using ./<package name>, at the beginning of installation it tells me that tar and gzip -> invalid compressed data
[08:41] <Slurpee> ?
[08:41] <sluurp> after a manuell reset, yes
[08:42] <losher> Karmic: a corrupted download?
[08:42] <apoleo12> slurP : my appologies...
[08:42] <apoleo12> Slurpee: my appologies...
[08:42] <Karmic> maybe..
[08:42] <Slurpee> no prob
[08:43] <kiaas_> So, my ISP is sending my a new DSL modem, because my old one can't handle 3mbit/s speeds... speedtest just told me my connection was going 3.03mbit/s without the new modem.
[08:43] <losher> Karmic: well did you download it manually, e.g. using ascii mode instead of binary mode? Or incomplete? Otherwise, I would have to guess it's been mis-packaged
[08:43] <shambat> losher: I get this from /var/log/messages: dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:11:22:33:44:55 via A: unknown network segment (sorry, using A and B for generality)
[08:45] <losher> shambat: unknown network segment? Sounds like you dhcp server doesn't know what do with the packet. Is dhcpd misconfigured?
[08:45] <Karmic> losher : I'll try to redownload and see if there are any changes
[08:46] <mr_lou> Can someone help me? I need to burn a DVD ISO image - but at the slowest possible speed to increase the chance of stupid DVD players being able to read it. I've tried Brasero and Gnomebaker, but even though I set the speed at e.g. 2.4, it still burns at much higher speeds. Preferable I'd burn it at 1x speed if possible. Can I set speed using the dd command? Anyone?
[08:46] <losher> Karmic: let me know...
[08:46] <Berzerker> damn liferea is awesome
[08:46] <Crash2108> I remember what I was going to ask!
[08:46] <pretender> running ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a EPC1000HA and after updates last night wireless stopped working.  wireless networks don't even appear now
[08:46] <Berzerker> get a better netbook. :P
[08:47] <Crash2108> How do I get an IP of a machine on a network so I can SSH into it?  Do I have to port forward?
[08:47] <losher> mr_lou: I usually burn DVD-R at 4x using growisofs. I get really good results with that...
[08:47] <Berzerker> check your router settings
[08:47] <apoleo12> Actually wehn I do an update ona  partiular software some things aren't working untill i found it rto get itback in working order
[08:47] <Berzerker> DHCP client table
[08:47] <Berzerker> apoleo12, ok, what?
[08:48] <mr_lou> losher, I have a stupid player that won't read much, and one that reads a bit more. But I'd really like to be able to burn at 1x speed.
[08:48] <llml> i'm working on a bash script, some of the commands should be done as super user. but the others should NOT. how can i let it run automatically? not stopped by the sudo password requirement
[08:49] <mr_lou> losher, Do you know what 1x speed means? How many bytes pr second? Maybe I could set obs attribut of dd to that....
[08:49] <mr_lou> dd obs=1024
[08:49] <apoleo12> Berzerker: Im just pointing out the obvious as an advice thats all...
[08:49] <apoleo12> just doin a bit of conribution...?
[08:49] <mr_lou> or sumthin'
[08:49] <Berzerker> apoleo12, I just didn't understand what you said
[08:49] <Berzerker> lol
[08:49] <losher> mr_lou: it may not help. Too slow can also cause errors. And some brands of dvd work better than others. Any reason you aren't using growisofs which is designed for burning dvds?
[08:50] <sluurp> uh huh
[08:50] <llml> Anyone: I'm working on a bash script, some of the commands should be done as super user. but the others should NOT. how can i let it run automatically? not stopped by the sudo password requirement
[08:50] <losher> mr_lou: growisofs  -speed=4 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom=file.iso
[08:50] <mr_lou> losher, Don't know growisofs. I just searched App Manager for "burn" and found Brasero and Gnomebaker, which is also designed for burning dvds. Will look for growisofs now then.
[08:51] <Gnea> llml: just add a function to check the id to see if it's root or not
[08:51] <mr_lou> losher, growisofs doesn't appear to be in App Manager.
[08:52] <apoleo12> Berzerker: dont know what part you dont get or or wasn'T for you :P
[08:52] <losher> mr_lou: it's in a package called dvd+rw-tools
[08:52] <Berzerker> apoleo12, don't worry about it
[08:52] <llml> Gnea: then automatically run? not interrupted by sudo password requirement?
[08:52] <oDesk> want to download the file and save it using the server-suggested filename? using wget ?howto?
[08:53] <losher> oDesk: can't you just do wget <url> ?
[08:53] <mikejones> aight this is an easy question how do i can ubuntu 8.10 login background wallpaper?????
[08:53] <Gnea> llml: it doesn't even do sudo or go anywhere near there, just see if the account running it is a root account or not. how you run it from there is up to you.
[08:53] <mikejones> i mean change
[08:53] <jefimenko> i tried switch users in gnome and now it seems that i'm stuck at a terminal. does anyone know how i can get back to my X session?
[08:54] <oDesk> losher: for ex. http://some.ur/i.php?id=12   -> file name will be i.php?id=12 while for ex. it should be  "title.jpg"
[08:54] <anathematic> how do I check what my current shell is?
[08:54] <Gnea> llml: if [ `id -u` == "0" ]; then blahblahblah; else if [ `id -u` != "0" ]; then yadayadayada; fi    something like that
[08:54] <Berzerker> anathematic, what it is?
[08:54] <llml> Gnea: yeah, gotcha, maybe we are not focusing on the same problem.
[08:54] <anathematic> Berzerker: yes
[08:54] <Berzerker> anathematic, like...bash or..?
[08:54] <anathematic> I spotted something on a blog for $PATH or sometihng to tel me but I since lost it
[08:54] <anathematic> yes
[08:55] <llml> Gnea: i mean. say, in the script: touch xxx; sudo touch xx
[08:55] <mikejones> anybody knows how to change ubuntu 8.10 login wallpaper?
[08:55] <shambat> losher: could be ... new to dhcp, so I can't really tell for sure :)
[08:55] <Gnea> llml: what i'm saying is, in the script, if it's a root account, it can touch the script, otherwise it can't.
[08:55] <Berzerker> anathematic, ubuntu uses bash by default, if you don't change it
[08:55] <losher> shambat: and I'm working from ancient memory....
[08:56] <oDesk> losher: someone asking the same question here http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg01369.html but the answer never  works for me
[08:56] <Gnea> llml: what i'm saying, is that the script itself should be run by sudo
[08:56] <jado> do you have a white page on: http://www.tvsubtitles.net/?
[08:56] <anathematic> Berzerker: I'm just looking at crontab at the moment and it says SHELL=/bin/sh is that bash?
[08:56] <anathematic> (this is probably a stupid question huh?)
[08:56] <Gnea> llml: otherwise you create more subroutines than is necessary
[08:56] <Berzerker> uh
[08:56] <Berzerker> no
[08:56] <Berzerker> that is sh
[08:56] <Berzerker> lol
[08:56] <lstarnes> anathematic: /bin/sh is either the bourne shell (sh) or dash
[08:56] <FloodBot3> Berzerker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:56] <Berzerker> blah
[08:56] <lstarnes> anathematic: bash is usually /bin/bash
[08:56] <anathematic> mmm
[08:56] <anathematic> ahh well that would make sense
[08:56] <llml> Gnea: i see, then all commands in the scripts will be run as sudoers, right?
[08:56] <Berzerker> lstarnes, support stealer. :(
[08:57] <Gnea> Berzerker: actually, /bin/sh is, by default, linked to /bin/dash these days
[08:57] <anathematic> can I change into sh and change back to test a command?
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: yes
[08:57] <llml> Gnea: but i need some of them run as normal user
[08:57] <Berzerker> Gnea, well yeah. the point was it's not bash. :P
[08:57] <Gnea> llml: if you allow them to, yes
[08:57] <Karmic> losher: The problem was a corrupted archive, thanks for your time.
[08:57] <anathematic> lstarnes: wouldn't be able to tell me how, would you? :)
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: sh
[08:57] <losher> oDesk: so it's actually a bug in curl & wget. Try lynx? or links?
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: type the commands you want to test
[08:57] <lstarnes> anathematic: exit
[08:57] <Gnea> llml: well if it's in sudo already, then it'll "just work" as another user
[08:57] <losher> Karmic: good to know...
[08:57] <anathematic> oh
[08:57] <anathematic> duh
[08:57] <anathematic> ty lstarnes
[08:58] <llml> Gnea: if a file is touched by a sudo command, then its owner will root. i don't want it
[08:58] <Gnea> llml: this is what chown is for
[08:58] <lstarnes> llml: you could put sudo before the individual commands or include chown/chmod
[08:59] <llml> Gnea: thats just an example, the actual command is not touch, and produces a batch of files
[08:59] <Gnea> lstarnes: he wants to put sudo commands in the script. i told him he should just run the script via sudo from the commandline, and have a function that checks to see if it's being run via sudo or not within the script to tell it to run or not run certain things in certain ways depending on the result
[09:00] <llml> lstarnes: yeah, but when i run i, i have to provide password at every sudo commands
[09:00] <nitjas> llml: are the sudo and non-sudo commands mutually exclusively run?
[09:00] <anathematic> thanks guys :)
[09:00] <Gnea> llml: I understand. but if you're running the script as sudo already, then it's already privelaged, and thus you can just use simple commands within the script to achieve the goal you wish to accomplish
[09:00] <llml> nitjas: yeah
[09:00] <lstarnes> llml: echo "password" | sudo -S command
[09:00] <Gnea> llml: that's why you just run the script itself via sudo, that way you only do the password once
[09:01] <lstarnes> llml: that is very insecure though, but it might work
[09:01] <Trolly> UBUNTUBUNTUBUNTU!
[09:01] <llml> lstarnes: looking into that
[09:01] <nitjas> llml: then why dont you with Gnea's suggestion if user is root then (sudo command) if user is not root then (non sudo command)
[09:01] <Trolly> alter schwede!
[09:01] <nitjas> llml: before every command
[09:01] <Gnea> llml: the only way to really do it the way you're thinking is with expect, and that is extremely insecure, since you'd have to store the password within the script itself
[09:01] <lstarnes> llml: use extreme caution with that
[09:02] <Trolly> Jetzt erzählt ihr mal nicht so einen Blödsinn, ja?
[09:02] <llml> nitjas: i want it run not interrupted by the providing password requirement
[09:02] <lstarnes> llml: anyone able to view that script would then be able to view the stored password
[09:02] <Gnea> !english | Trolly
[09:02] <llml> lstarnes: gotcha!
[09:02] <fluurp> he just insulted us
[09:02] <fluurp> lol
[09:02] <jefimenko> i tried switch users in gnome and now it seems that i'm stuck at a terminal. does anyone know how i can get back to my X session?
[09:02] <Berzerker> woah
[09:02] <Berzerker> I didn't understand that
[09:02] <Berzerker> lol
[09:03] <kiaas_> jefimenko,  try startx
[09:03] <Trolly> hä? wat is los?
[09:03] <lstarnes> llml: normally, you only need to enter the password the first time if the commands run within a short time
[09:03] <nitjas> llml: if user is su then he has to provide the password once, if user is non-su then he is not asked for it. You want to eliminate that single challenge too?
[09:03] <kust0m> jefimenko: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:03] <Trolly> lalalalala
[09:03] <lstarnes> llml: if you can, find a more secure methond
[09:03] <Gnea> llml: well, you can either beat your knees with a baseball bat or you can swim with beautiful women, figuratively speaking
[09:03] <jefimenko> kiaas_, kust0m: my X session had lots of stuff open... it's really important for me to recover my work
[09:03] <Berzerker> wat.
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <Trolly> llml
[09:03] <FloodBot3> Trolly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:04] <shambat> losher: this is my iptables rules: http://pastebin.com/m21003a28 can this mean that iptables is blocking the DHCP reqs?
[09:04] <llml> Trolly: ?
[09:04] <kiaas_> jefimenko, if x died, all of it is closed
[09:04] <Berzerker> lol
[09:04] <jefimenko> kiaas_: i don't think X died
[09:04] <kust0m> jefimenko: erf..uhm..so basically x is running but the decorations are gone? or?
[09:04] <Trolly> lalalala
[09:04] <Gnea> !offtopic | Trolly
[09:04] <kust0m> jefimenko: like the gnome panel and whatnot
[09:04] <Trolly> i was born in grevenbroich!
[09:04] <jefimenko> kust0m: no, i don't see X at all, rather I see the startup service messages
[09:04] <Berzerker> Gnea, I really don't think that's having any effect.
[09:04] <Trolly> was erzählt ihr denn da alle?
[09:04] <Gnea> Trolly: we don't care. do you have a question?
[09:05] <llml> lstarnes, Gnea: thank you all!
[09:05] <jefimenko> kust0m: i.e. "* Reloading Common Unix Printing System: cupsd", etc.
[09:05] <Paavi2_0> !de | Trolly
[09:05] <jefimenko> kust0m: it's a bare terminal like before gdm/X starts
[09:05] <Trolly> hä? ob ich was zum qustionen hab? aber sicher!
[09:05] <Berzerker> Paavi2_0, win.
[09:05] <oldude67> !op | trolly  no english off topic
[09:05] <kust0m> jefimenko: i think theres a way to drop to a term and leave x running, but i don't recall what it is..did you hit alt and a function key maybe?
[09:05] <Gnea> Trolly: please /join #ubuntu-de
[09:05]  * fluurp facepalm
[09:06] <Trolly> ach, ihr seid mir auch amaranths!
[09:06] <Trolly> wer ist ChanServ?
[09:06] <kust0m> Trolly: buh bye.
[09:06] <jefimenko> kust0m: no, it happened when trying to switch users
[09:06] <SIM22EVD> Is it possible to have some help with Installing Firefpx
[09:06] <SIM22EVD> *firefox
[09:06] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: only if you ask the question
[09:06] <Berzerker> ctrl+alt+F1 should leave X running, but drop to a terminal
[09:07] <nitjas> llml: why dont you create two separate scripts. one for su and the other non-su commands?
[09:07] <Berzerker> did for me anyway
[09:07] <jefimenko> kiaas_: "ps ax | grep X" returns a row like this: 8236 tty7     Ss+  631:22 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[09:07] <jefimenko> kiaas_: so i think it's still running
[09:07] <llml> nitjas: they are interlaced
[09:07] <SIM22EVD> How can I install Firefox 3.5.2 after downloading the files and extracting them
[09:07] <gauravkittz> neone have aspire one with them
[09:07] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:08] <llml> Gnea, lstarnes: one more question, sudo without -S provided is not reading its password from stdin, is it?
[09:08] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:08] <kust0m> jefimenko: i have no clue..i'm not entirely sure what happens when you switch users on ubuntu
[09:08] <gauravkittz> aspire one
[09:08] <llml> then where the hell does it read from?
[09:08] <SIM22EVD> where do I get sudo apt
[09:08] <lstarnes> llml: no.  It is reading directly from the terminal device
[09:08] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, no, but if you're asking about how well it works, the guide reports it works well. I'm on an HP Mini
[09:08] <Gnea> llml: sudo by itself reads from stdin
[09:08] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: in a terminal
[09:08] <Gnea> SIM22EVD: in a terminal
[09:08] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, it's already on your computer. just type that in a terminal.
[09:08] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: there should be an executable for firefox in the extracted directory that you can run directly
[09:09] <gauravkittz> @Berzerker i'm satisfied with ubuntu... just wanted to know about sidux
[09:09] <gauravkittz> what is it??
[09:09] <MadGirl> somebody said it was showing all errors or that emerge -uDNvt @system @world does bring up (brought) up packages... but it seems maybe not all of them .... or it is a recent problem or a problem because we usually assume you are working from a root terminal, unless we tell you to logout of the root terminal
[09:09] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, looks like another deb based linux
[09:09] <Gnea> MadGirl: wrong channel?
[09:10] <llml> lstarnes: yeah, man page says so, i can't tell the difference between stdin and a terminal device when stdin is the terminal input device
[09:10] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, with KDE
[09:10] <gauravkittz> ya it is... i'v heard it runs well on netbooks
[09:10] <gauravkittz> is it true
[09:10] <MadGirl> Gnea: i don't know
[09:10] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, you won't get much better than UNR with a netbook.
[09:10] <Gnea> MadGirl: this is #ubuntu, not #gentoo
[09:10] <MadGirl> Gnea: but this is day two of non sequitors
[09:10] <gauravkittz> ya thats true
[09:10] <lstarnes> llml: what usually happens on the terminal is it captures characters from the keyboard input then feeds them into STDIN
[09:10] <gauravkittz> so u'r using ubuntu on hp
[09:11] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, yes.
[09:11] <lstarnes> llml: sometimes, programs will request to capture directly from the terminal and bypass STDIN
[09:11] <gauravkittz> awsm distro i may say
[09:11] <Gnea> MadGirl: plus, what you said had nothing to do with any current discussion.
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: so terminal device comes first?
[09:11] <lstarnes> llml: yes
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: very clear!
[09:11] <llml> lstarnes: thanks a looot!
[09:11] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes: I cannot find an executable file.  Can you help me or guide me through it?
[09:11] <llml> :)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: UNR works 100% out of the box on the ZG5 model of the aspire one
[09:12] <malda> hello
[09:12] <malda> i got a problem getting my wireless card to work
[09:12] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: it's named firefox
[09:12] <gauravkittz> what;;s the boot time
[09:12] <gauravkittz> ??
[09:12] <Berzerker> SIM22EVD, just open a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[09:12] <lstarnes> SIM22EVD: executable files in linux rarely ever end with .exe
[09:12] <Berzerker> gauravkittz, not too bad. maybe 20-30 seconds, I'm not on a SSD though
[09:13] <mohan_> hi..
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: erm, < 30 seconds
[09:13] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes: I tried to run it earlier but nothing happened.
[09:13] <gauravkittz> i'm on hdd and gives me around 20 sec max with crunchbang
[09:13] <fluurp> gauravkittz : on my machine its xactly 37 seconds
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: the SG5 has a platter based HDD too
[09:13] <gauravkittz> only problem is its openbox
[09:13] <mr_lou> growisofs doesn't help. It's also used by Gnomebaker. Despite giving it a -speed=1, it keeps burning at 5.6 or 6.1
[09:13] <gauravkittz> it sux
[09:13] <mr_lou> I simply can't limit the write speed.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: if boot time is what gets you off, try xpud
[09:13] <gauravkittz> xpud??
[09:14] <Berzerker> yeah my mom's EeePC has a 16GB SSD. it's faaaast.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: boots in 3 seconds on my am2 3000 1Gb ram PATA hdd
[09:14] <gauravkittz> wow
[09:14] <gauravkittz> 3secs awsm
[09:14] <Berzerker> not quite
[09:14] <mohan_> hi
[09:14] <gauravkittz> its debian based is it
[09:14] <Berzerker> it boots windows 7 in about 10 seconds.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: its very limited, but hey it boots fast
[09:14] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[09:14] <Berzerker> yay netsplit
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> gauravkittz: no its not debian based
[09:14] <mohan_> my system is freeqing... using ubuntu 9.04 64bit
[09:15] <eyalw> I just pressed Ctrl+x to cut something, and when i pressed ctrl+v in other folder it banished, HELP??? where are my files!
[09:15] <SIM22EVD> Istarnes:  All sorted! Thanks for your help.  :)
[09:15] <mohan_> pls anybody help..
[09:15] <malda> i got a problem getting my wireless card to work
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: does f5 bring them back
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> malda: what have you tried?
[09:15] <malda> nothing
[09:16] <gauravkittz> mohan how can i help
[09:16] <DigitalKiwi> ...
[09:16] <malda> i am not that good with unix
[09:16] <malda> prity new
[09:16] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: no : (
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok is it internal or usb?
[09:16] <malda> internal
[09:16] <malda> laptop
[09:16] <malda> i tried to enable it in the gui
[09:16] <mohan_> gauravkittz : my system is freezing after working couple of minutes.. :(
[09:16] <malda> but the option seens dissabled
[09:16] <LLStarks> why does gnome-screensaver lack advanced settings for individual screensavers?
[09:16] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: wait, it did, in the destination folder, so what happened?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok can you provide the output of lspci
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> malda: use pastebin
[09:16] <malda> yep
[09:16] <gauravkittz> what system you r using
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: file browser got confused
[09:17] <mohan_> gauravkittz : opteron 64 quadcore
[09:17] <leaf-sheep> LLStarks: K.I.S.S and I don't stare at screensavers. :P
[09:17] <tehdot> how do I kill X in jaunty. Not restart X, but kill it
[09:17] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: with copy paste :) ?  what do u mean
[09:17] <Threetimes> LLStarks: because gnome-screensaver is made for people who are scared of advanced options. Use x-screensaver.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: log out, log on to command line login, you can then kill the process
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: you gave an input to an app and it confused itself
[09:18] <malda> http://pastebin.com/mde5de8
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> eyalw: if it happens again, log a bug
[09:18] <malda> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/mde5de8
[09:18] <eyalw> ActionParsnip: it happened 2 time before
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> malda: ok so its an Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[09:18] <Berzerker> is there an app to find the md5 of a file?
[09:19] <malda> yep
[09:19] <cfedde> md5sum
[09:19] <Berzerker> ah.
[09:19] <Dvyjones> Any idea which package g2c.h is in? (Jaunty)
[09:19] <Berzerker> excellent and handy.
[09:19] <malda> ActionParsnip: yep
[09:20] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I use ledd (ledcontrol), but I don't know how to configure it.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> malda: try: sudo rmmod -f ipw2200; sudo modprobe ipw2200 bt_coexist=1
[09:20] <tehdot> ActionParsnip, it just restarted x when I tried that
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: you need to disable the autologin thing you have enabled
[09:21] <lstarnes> Dvyjones: maybe libg2c0-dev
[09:21] <kkaji`>  Please help me -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800
[09:21] <tehdot> ActionParsnip, I don't have autologin enabled, I type user/pass to login
[09:21] <malda> ActionParsnip: not it says in my gui, device not managed
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> tehdot: then reboot and log in to command line rather than the usual gnome session (or whatever yuo use)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> malda: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see SSIDs?
[09:23] <malda> ActionParsnip, no scan results
[09:23] <malda> but....
[09:23] <mr_lou> Can someone tell me by growisofs ignores my -speed=1 parameter?
[09:23] <mr_lou> *why
[09:23] <Dvyjones> lstarnes: Nope, that package doesn't exist.
[09:24] <malda> ActionParsnip, when i enter those 2 commands it says it is enabled, but in like 5 seconds it goes back to disabled (also disabeling my gui option to enable)
[09:24] <lstarnes> Dvyjones: maybe tex4ht-common
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> back
[09:26] <Berzerker> forward.
[09:26] <Berzerker> :D
[09:26] <apoleo12> say I was wondering, when I put in alias ls= ls -pl is there a way to have it permament? rather than to put it in every time?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: add it in ~/.bashrc
[09:26] <apoleo12> Berzerker: should it be front? lol
[09:26] <apoleo12> ActionParsnip1: ok
[09:26] <Berzerker> apoleo12, either one
[09:27] <syntax> what is cmake in ubuntu?
[09:27] <apoleo12> what does bashrc do? I know its stupid and lazy and you can say it if you dont like lol
[09:28] <lstarnes> apoleo12: it runs when bash starts
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: its a script that configures your bash environment
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: you can add all manner of goodness in there to customise your settings
[09:29] <Berzerker> alias ls='ls -pl'
[09:29] <Berzerker> doesn't work...
[09:29] <Dvyjones> lstarnes: Nope.
[09:29] <Dvyjones> :P
[09:29] <Berzerker> can you not overalias another command with itself?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: example/
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> syntax: its a compiling tool
[09:30] <syntax> o ok
[09:30] <Berzerker> alias ls='ls -pl'
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> yeah you can do that
[09:31] <Berzerker> doesn't work for me
[09:31] <Berzerker> unless I'm mising a step
[09:31] <error404notfound> anybody who could tell me whats wrong with the usage of duplicity command at http://pastebin.com/m7aafbbe2 ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> http://cay.la/fauver/.bashrc.html example bashrc file
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> they use "s apparently
[09:34] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip1, still doesn't work, am I missing a step? un #'ed the line, changed it to ls="ls -pl" saved it. anything else?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: source ~/.bashrc
[09:34] <apoleo12> Berzerker: maybe its ' not "?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: you need to reload the file
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Berzerker: that command will do it, or you can close the terminal and reopen it
[09:35] <Berzerker> ah
[09:35] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I already use ledd (ledcontrol) for other tasks, but I don't know how to configure it for apache.
[09:35] <Berzerker> ActionParsnip1, win.
[09:36]  * apoleo12 looses
[09:36] <WeazelON> Does anyone know how, for the sake of all that is good,  can one use SSL Network Exteneder in Ubuntu ?
[09:36] <lstarnes> WeazelON: what is SSL Network Extender?
[09:36] <Kartagis> !slow
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> haha
[09:36] <WeazelON> SSL Network Extender aka SNX aka Check point VPN through https
[09:36] <krishna_> I want to create A VPN for itshidden.com.. any one help me ?
[09:37] <WeazelON> brb
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn | krishna_
[09:38] <apoleo12> so now I have added some lines in bashrc but need I wait for the next boot?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: no, just run: source ~/.bashrc
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: or close the terminal and reopen it
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: linux is designed for maximum uptime so you rarely need to reboot
[09:38] <apoleo12> it says command not found
[09:39] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, its not gaming
[09:39] <apoleo12> yeah ill close 'em
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: its still a vpn though
[09:39] <apoleo12> thats true
[09:39] <apoleo12> except drivers which is my next on agenda
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: the only time you really need to reboot is if you install a new kernel
[09:39] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, sorry. i sent you pm without persmission
[09:39] <apoleo12> not videodriversa?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: not even for drivers, just load the drivers in
[09:40] <apoleo12> coolies
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, sudo apt-get install pptpd ipx ipxripd this command says packagne not found
[09:40]  * apoleo12 half-smiles
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: which isnt found?
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, ipxripd
[09:40] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, i use jaunty
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> !info ipxripd
[09:41] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, then that page is outdated ??
[09:41] <apoleo12> that source command is nothing found anywhere... man, info etc
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: you will find the guide is outdated instead
[09:41] <Ttarek> hey ubuntos you already know appnr.com ,i want to download the packages to my computer and install it later do i have to download all the files list in the download section of appnr.com ???
[09:41] <Ttarek> then what i need to do after downloading  ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: weird
[09:42] <apoleo12> i know wonder why???
[09:42] <Berzerker> I'm an ubunto!
[09:42] <apoleo12> by that sound of it i'm not weird
[09:42] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, i got this link from the itshidden site ... : http://ubuntu-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/07/jaunty-vpn-itshiddencom.html /// but the first command asks me to install xubuntu cd and press enter.. i wonder why ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: most of that stuff is in the standard repos
[09:42] <apoleo12> ActionParsnip1: thanks again
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> apoleo12: np man
[09:43] <apoleo12> so much to learn ;)
[09:43] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, where is the network manager of ubuntu ?
[09:44] <Ttarek> Action: I didnot get it
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: on one of the bars, or you can press alt+f2 and type network  see what is suggested
[09:44] <Ttarek> if it is in the standard repos
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: you dont need that site at all, all the apps you see there are available via synaptic
[09:44] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, but the vpn tab is greyed out
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: or apt-get
[09:45] <Ttarek> I Know but I need to download only not instaal
[09:45] <Ttarek> I Know but I need to download only not install
[09:45] <Threetimes> Hi, I want my scrolllock led to blink on every apache request. I already use ledd (ledcontrol) for other tasks, but I don't know how to configure it for apache.
[09:46] <krishna_> ActionParsnip1, all other tabs have "add" active... But in vpn tab its dead... :(
[09:46] <tuxwulf> How to get my networkmanager applet back on my anel if I accidentally removed it?
[09:46] <Ttarek> is this possible throgh synaptic
[09:46] <jefimenko> does anyone know if it's possible to ssh into a box and start a vnc session, attaching it to an existing X session on the remote box?
[09:46] <jefimenko> i can't access my X session on my desktop. i know it's still running and I can ssh into it remotely
[09:47] <krishna_> I need some help for active the "add" in tab of vpn under netweok manager
[09:48] <Ttarek> I need to download the program packages & install later because i didnot have an internet connection
[09:49] <Ttarek> any help
[09:49] <Ttarek> ?
[09:49] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Isn't it your vnc session that is 'hanging' on that remote box?
[09:50] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: no, i never started a vnc session on that box
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: i gotcha, then it should be ok
[09:50] <kushal_kumaran_> Ttarek: see File -> Generate package download script
[09:50] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i tried to switch users in gnome, but now it's stuck at the terminal (as if i did ctrl+alt+f1)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Ttarek: there is an option for apt-get to download only, you will need to satisfy any dependdancies too
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> krishna_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/278153
[09:51] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i had lots of important work open in the X session and I need to access to at least save/recover some stuff
[09:51] <Ttarek> thanks action
[09:51] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: And your VNC ports are configured correctly? Then you can just vnc into that box
[09:51] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i had never started the VNC server before
[09:52] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: so i was wondering if i could start the vnc server and attach it to that running X session
[09:52] <jefimenko> doing it remotely through ssh
[09:52] <tuxwulf> jefimenko > Well if you can ssh into it then you can start the vnc server from command line
[09:52] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: And then use vnc to get into your session. Not sure if you get into the same session you left open though
[09:53] <tuxwulf> I thought so, based on userid, though
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: could use x forwarding if ssh is active ;)
[09:54] <pozic> How can I reset the password of my keyring?
[09:54] <pozic> I was not even aware that I was using a keyring in the first place.
[09:54] <pozic> (The gnome keyring)
[09:55] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: that's the important part... i need to get into the same session
[09:55] <tuxwulf> ActionParsnip1: I have heard of that but never needed it... how does that work? With the DISPLAY thing?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: when you ssh use: ssh -X user@server
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: if the client is linux it will have the libs, if its windows, install and run xming
[09:56] <tuxwulf> Well that looks very simple indeed..
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: you can then launch gui apps and they will appear on the client but be running on the ssh server
[09:56] <psiborg> it won't get you into the same session though
[09:56] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Did you see that...?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: x forwarding is default enabled in openssh-server
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: you wont get the same session as psiborg says, you will run the app as yourself. you only get the app too instead of the entire desktop (which is pretty redundant)
[09:58] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: i saw the part about vnc, yes. but you mentioned that i might not be able to get into the same session this way.
[09:58] <tuxwulf> ActionParsnip1: Ah... but that then means jefimenko is out of luck....
[09:58] <oguncak> hi friends. how can i find out which version of gnome i am using? which term should i check on synaptic?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> tuxwulf: why is the whole desktop required, jefimenko?
[09:59] <fluurp> oguncak wich version?
[09:59] <oguncak> 2.24 or 2.26?
[09:59] <jefimenko> ActionParsnip1: because i had lots of important applications open in the session
[09:59] <obhk__> is there a way to automatically open a fullscreen terminal when ubuntu starts up?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> jefimenko: i see
[09:59] <fluurp> oguncak system info about gnome?
[09:59] <jefimenko> for some reason i can't just press alt+f7 to get Xwindows back
[10:00] <jefimenko> in fact, the keyboard isn't responding at all at this terminal
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> obhk__: sure, add an entry to your startup stuff
[10:00] <oguncak> yes. i need a sys info about gnome that i am using
[10:00] <jefimenko> if the screen goes to powersave mode and i press a key, then it comes back from powersave mode, but that's all i can do
[10:00] <fluurp> system - info about gnome
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> oguncak: run any gnome app, then click help -> about gnome
[10:00] <oguncak> ok. thanks
[10:00] <sleepy_cat> can u suggest me some site where i can upload a pic without registering .. like username password etc
[10:00] <obhk__> ActionParsnip1: but I would like it to be full screen, like when F11 is pressed
[10:01] <Iowahc> hello there, how do I upgrade libssl to 0.9.8k?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> obhk__: i'm sure you ccan add extra options to the execution to change its behavior
[10:01] <Iowahc> i downloaded the source and compiled it
[10:01] <Iowahc> ran make install
[10:01] <lstarnes> Iowahc: it is strongly recommended that you use the version packaged with ubuntu
[10:01] <Iowahc> I know, but a program needs it
[10:02] <tuxwulf> jefimenko: Well I am a bit blaning out on this one....
[10:02] <lstarnes> Iowahc: it should be instakked under /usr/local/
[10:02] <tuxwulf> blaning --> blanking
[10:02] <oguncak> when will the upper version for gnome be published? (later than 2.26)??
[10:03] <Iowahc> lstarnes: yeah, but when I run my program it just finds the actual libssl provided by ubuntu
[10:03] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: ok thanks for trying
[10:03] <jefimenko> tuxwulf: hopefully someone can help
[10:03] <lstarnes> Iowahc: I'm not sure what to do in order to fix that
[10:03] <Ranakah> hi. i have ati radeon 1950 pro and linux mint 7 (ubuntu jaunty) with xserver 1.6 and opensource drivers. my question is how can i use dual head with this card?  tnx for answers
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googleearth-package/+bug/369471
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> !mint | Ranakah
[10:05] <JDahl> what is the easiest way to permanently mount another partition with full user rights under Ubuntu 9.4 Gnome?
[10:05] <dio_> whats up
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> JDahl: fstab
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> !fstab | JDahl
[10:06] <Iowahc> anyone else has a glue?
[10:06] <Ranakah> ActionParsnip1 i know but is same as ubuntu jaunty
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: you need a symlink
[10:06] <mr_lou> Any alternative to growisofs for burning DVD's?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Ranakah: maybe but its not an official canonical release so its not officially supported in the official channel
[10:06] <chrisfs> Hi, I'm a newbie,. I just started Ubuntu last week coming from Windows. I'm trying to install Adobe Flash plugin. I went to Applications and clicked on Add and it seems the Flash plugin installer is already installed, but I can't seem to find an icon for it, so that I can run the installer. I figure it's something basic I don't know about  Can someone help tell me what that is ?
[10:07] <dio_> brasero dvd burning is good
[10:07] <Iowahc> How can I check which is the right libssl?
[10:07] <Iowahc> ther is none in /usr/local/lib
[10:07] <sipior> Iowahc: try /usr/lib
[10:07] <oguncak> hi friends. although i set the update manager to receive updates automatically, i can not see the update status icon on the panel. how can i fix that?
[10:08] <mr_lou> dio_, Brasero uses growisofs to burn, as does Gnomebaker and k3b.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> mr_lou: wodim if you like command line
[10:08] <Iowahc> in /usr/lib/ there is a libssl3.so and a libssl.so.0.9.8 is it the new compiled one?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: its in that guide
[10:08] <lstarnes> Iowahc: look in /usr/local/lib
[10:08] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip1, I thought wodim only supported CD's and not DVD's? I don't particular line commandline, but I'm fine with it when it's the only option.
[10:08] <dio_> ok thanks for info lou
[10:09] <sipior> Iowahc: how did you build libssl? did you provide a prefix to configure?
[10:09] <Iowahc> ActionParsnip1: Which Guide?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: the link i pasted
[10:09] <Iowahc> sipior: no, just made configure, make, make install
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> mr_lou: not sure on that front. i dont burn many disks
[10:09] <Iowahc> ActionParsnip1: sorry, missed the link, where?
[10:09] <oguncak> hi friends. although i set the update manager to receive updates automatically, i can not see the update status icon on the panel. how can i fix that?
[10:10] <sipior> Iowahc: then /usr/local/lib is the most probable default. if it's not there, check the output of make.
[10:10] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip1, Me neither. But thanks. I'll check it out.
[10:10] <Iowahc> sipior: in /usr/local/lib is none. I check the output,. one moment
[10:11] <indus> oguncak: are you using 9.04?
[10:11] <oguncak> yes
[10:11] <indus> oguncak: ok then it wont appear in panel.,they removed that
[10:11] <oguncak> well, it was really useful!!!
[10:11] <oguncak> thanks Indus
[10:12] <indus> oguncak: i know, but the devs have gone nuts with that bug report
[10:12] <indus> oguncak: there is a long bug report on launchpad about this with a lot of comments,there is a way to get that notification back but it doesnt really work,atleast not for me
[10:12] <oguncak> well, will they put it back later?
[10:12] <c0l2e> when I install firefox-3.5 its called shiretoko.. is this corrent?
[10:13] <c0l2e> correct
[10:13] <indus> c0l2e: yes
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> Iowahc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/googleearth-package/+bug/369471  should help
[10:13] <c0l2e> when I use that the search tool is blank..
[10:13] <c0l2e> the bar on the rightside is blank..I mean no default search engines.. how can I set it back to default?
[10:14] <ManDay> Good morning guys. I'm looking for a well-supported (from repos) and LIGHTWEIGHT standalone client for Microsoft's MSN. Please highlight me.
[10:14] <indus> ManDay: pidgin will contact with msn,but no video or voice
[10:15] <barfoos> ManDay: you can use pidgin for this, or if you really love lightweight things you might want to have a look at bitlbee too.
[10:15] <ManDay> That's just fine with me. I'll take a look at bitlbee first, then.
[10:15] <ManDay> Thank you very much.
[10:15] <indus> ManDay: amsn from repos will give you webcam but no sound
[10:15] <barfoos> ManDay: there's been another one i can't recall the name of that also supports cam and stuff.
[10:15] <WeazelON> or just wait til Digsby comes to linux
[10:15] <ManDay> No, no need for camera. Just the chat
[10:16] <barfoos> ManDay: have a look at pidgin and see if it fits your needs since it's probably the easiest to use client
[10:16] <indus> ManDay: then applications>internet>pidgin will connect with all protocols
[10:16] <ManDay> barfoos, my priority is really lightweightness. I care less about assessibility
[10:17] <leaf-sheep> WeazelON: http://forum.digsby.com/viewtopic.php?id=381
[10:17] <chrisfs> Hi, I'm a newbie,. I just started Ubuntu last week coming from Windows. I'm trying to install Adobe Flash plugin. I went to Applications and clicked on Add and it seems the Flash plugin installer is already installed, but I can't seem to find an icon for it, so that I can run the installer. I figure it's something basic I don't know about  Can someone help tell me what that is ?
[10:17] <ManDay> After all, it would be great to have a client which is at the same time lightweight and supports the full set of features such as cam and sound. But I reckon such thing doesn't exist?
[10:18] <indus> chrisfs: hi when you try to watch a video on youtube what happens
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> !find flashplugin
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:18] <luyi> HEY.all
[10:18] <WeazelON> leaf-sheep:  yea but wine is crap, digsby said that they are going to release a version for linux very soon.
[10:18] <chrisfs> Indus: It's slower than it was on this same pc under windows. It stops midway. Sometimes the audio starts before the video.
[10:18] <ManDay> barfoos, I've just taken a quick look at bitlbee and it appears to be some sort of gaetway to forward messeges from and to IRC. Is that really wwhat I wantß
[10:18] <ManDay> ?
[10:18] <dev_> hi
[10:19] <luyi> 这里讲中文吗？
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> WeazelON: are you using the one on the wine repo?
[10:19] <leaf-sheep> chrisfs: I'm teaching you how to install a package. Open the terminal.  "aptitude search flash" to get a list of packages relating to "flash" then "sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" :>
[10:19] <chrisfs> Inuds :stops and then loads some more and starts again, but is jumpy
[10:19] <indus> chrisfs: well,that looks like a flash issue, what version of the plugin are u using
[10:19] <psiborg> ubuntu ships with one of the opensource flash versions?
[10:19] <chrisfs> right now swfdeck .082? sound right ?
[10:19] <leaf-sheep> WeazelON: I see. I'm using Pidgin. Works great for me. :)
[10:19] <comp4> hiiii
[10:19] <krishna_> If i  try to install somethign from synaptic.. it asks for a cd rom of xubuntu 8.10.. why is that so ?
[10:19] <indus> chrisfs: what is your internet speed
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> leaf-sheep: pidgin here also
[10:20] <barfoos> ManDay: it is not, but since it may run on any server you have access to, accessible with any irc client you don't even need X for, it maybe is something that can get your appetite since it is so lightweight that you only would have to run an ssh session to the machine your "irc" client runs on which connects to that bitlbee thing.
[10:20] <ManDay> barfoos, I'd be great if you could remember the name of the client which supports Camera and Sound, too - jus tfor knowing
[10:20] <leaf-sheep> krishna_: You might have removable source enabled in Software Sources.
[10:20] <indus> chrisfs: thats not adobe flash, you are using swdef
[10:20] <crzedmonk> anyone in here know why flash sucks so bad with ubuntu?
[10:20] <chrisfs> One of the slower DSL packages,
[10:20] <ManDay> barfoos, I hear you. Good point. I'll think about it.
[10:20] <WeazelON> yea well for now pidgin is the option.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: its proprietary
[10:20] <indus> chrisfs: try this in terminal  sudo update-alternatives --config -flash
[10:20] <barfoos> ManDay: i think it was "amsn", but not sure.
[10:20] <syntax> leaf i learned something new as well
[10:20] <leaf-sheep> krishna_: Check Software Sources and untoggle anything under "Installable from CD-ROM/DVD"
[10:20] <chrisfs> Yes, I know I was trying to install adobe to see if it works better and can;'t figure out how
[10:20] <crzedmonk> any way to fix it
[10:21] <crzedmonk> I heart youtube
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: bother adobe
[10:21] <chrisfs> ok thanks
[10:21] <ManDay> barfoos, you just asserted that amsn doesnt support sound?
[10:21] <dev_> I want to check the history of operations that I have performed through gui. how?
[10:21] <barfoos> ManDay: i didn't say that.
[10:21] <indus> ActionParsnip1: its a problem with mozilla too,dont blame flash alone
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: it cant be improved by the community so adobe have to make it better
[10:21] <crzedmonk> it there another flash player that is availible
[10:21] <indus> ActionParsnip1: mozilla dont know it themselves
[10:21] <crzedmonk> or am I to be flash less
[10:21] <ManDay> barfoos, I'm sorry, indus said that amsn doesnt support sound.
[10:22] <chrisfs> crzedmonk: I am having flash probs, scroll back and look at indus advice to me
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: what is the output of: uname -a
[10:22] <barfoos> ManDay: that's not correct - it supports cam and sound and such.
[10:22] <jefimenko> kiaas_, kust0m, tuxwulf, ActionParsnip1: thanks for trying to help. the real solution was to ssh to the box and run "chvt 7" as root
[10:22] <ManDay> That's great news. I'll try them both. bitlbee and amsn
[10:22] <ManDay> Thank you guys.
[10:22] <crzedmonk> Linux Lintron 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> jefimenko: nice
[10:22] <indus> chrisfs: can u open synaptic package manager and search for a package named swdef
[10:22] <jefimenko> one of the guys in #xorg told me
[10:23] <chrisfs> Indus: I got "No alternatives for -flash."  when I typed what you gave me
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: ok then its 32bit.
[10:23] <jefimenko> just thought i'd let you know
[10:23] <jefimenko> might come in handy if it ever happens to you ;)
[10:23] <crzedmonk> yes sir
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> crzedmonk: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[10:24] <crzedmonk> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-installer
[10:24] <dev_> Does anybody know how to check history of gui operations?
[10:24] <indus> crzedmonk: try adobe-flashplugin
[10:25] <indus> chrisfs: have u searched ?
[10:25] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip1: Last time I helped somebody with flashplugin-installer -- it doesn't work at all.  Use flashplugin-nonfree instead and it worked for the said person.
[10:25] <crzedmonk> E: Couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin-installer
[10:25] <chrisfs> Indus: when I use synaptic, I can't find swdef, but when I search for swf I get swfdec-mozilla and swfdec-gnome
[10:25] <indus> crzedmonk: package nameis  adobe-flashplugin
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> leaf-sheep: i always download the .so manually, so much easier
[10:25] <crzedmonk> oh
[10:25] <crzedmonk> ;p;
[10:26] <crzedmonk> lol
[10:26] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip1: Me too. :P
[10:26] <indus> chrisfs: remove swfdec-mozilla
[10:26] <ManDay> barfoos, perfect! Just installed it without any problems (one of the few times installing and running something works without problems). Great job!
[10:26] <chrisfs> removing swfdec-mozilla
[10:26] <indus> chrisfs: wait 1 sec
[10:27] <krishna_> I have nothing enabled inside "installable from cd/dvd" in software sources.... but whrn i do apt-get ,. it says insert xubuntu cd and press enter... help me plz
[10:27] <crzedmonk> Reinstallation of adobe-flashplugin is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[10:27] <crzedmonk> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support
[10:27] <indus> chrisfs: remove swfdec-mozilla and swf-gnome both
[10:27] <indus> crzedmonk: ok cool
[10:28] <indus> crzedmonk: open synaptic package manager
[10:28] <Boz> hi all
[10:28] <chrisfs> Indus: both are removed now
[10:28] <indus> crzedmonk: search for package flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <krishna_> Boz, /Hi
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz; tar zxvf ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz; rm ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:28] <indus> chrisfs: now search for adobe-flashplugin and install it
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> chrisfs: copy all that to a terminal and run it, you will then have flash
[10:28] <krishna_> I have nothing enabled inside "installable from cd/dvd" in software sources.... but whrn i do apt-get ,. it says insert xubuntu cd and press enter... help me plz
[10:28] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:29] <crzedmonk> should I reinstall it there?
[10:29] <indus> crzedmonk: yes
[10:29] <Boz> I'm attempting to make a directory for some codecs and can't
[10:29] <Boz> I get the following msg
[10:29] <Boz> kdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/codecs/': Permission denied
[10:29] <comp3> #malang
[10:29] <leaf-sheep> Boz: Use sudo.
[10:29] <indus> Boz you need to use sudo mkdir
[10:29] <comp3> j malang
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Boz: ok if you cn detail exactly the steps you are taking we may be able to advise
[10:30] <DJones> comp3 its "/join #malang" without the "'s
[10:31] <Boz> looks like that worked thanks
[10:31] <anr78> is there a trigger for checking the version of a package in jaunty?
[10:31] <chrisfs> Indus adobe-flashplugin doesn't appear  flashplugin-installer appears and is already installed , flashplugin-nonfree is not
[10:32] <ar10> anr78, apt-cache policy 'packagename'
[10:32] <indus> chrisfs: ok install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:32] <crzedmonk> http request sent, awaiting response.......404 not found.
[10:32] <chrisfs> Actionparship1: copied the commands, trying applicaiton first but will try that if this doesn't pan out
[10:32] <crzedmonk> dl failed
[10:32] <crzedmonk> plugin not installed
[10:32] <crzedmonk> is the details of the thing
[10:32] <crzedmonk> meanwhile the box says changes applied
[10:32] <ManDay> I got an EEE Pc on which I installed the vanilla ubuntu (not the netbook-edition). Since then I'vent tried out my webcam since there are no programs for it pre-installed. I now want to try it out and at the same time get myself a good program for the webcam. Can you recomment anything. It should offer quite some features but should not be too demanding for the hardware. Maybe a record function and setting values such as brightness etc. so they
[10:32] <ManDay>  get stored and I dont have to reset them everythime. any recommendations?
[10:32] <crzedmonk> flash still does not work
[10:33] <chrisfs> Inuds: ok it's installed
[10:33] <anr78> ar10: thanks
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: sudo apt-get install cheese
[10:33] <indus> chrisfs: now close firefox reopen,clear cache then play a video
[10:33] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, I'll check it out, thank you!
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: are you running 32bit Ubuntu?
[10:34] <CppIsWeird> has anyone here use an IBM LCM?
[10:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes he gave u uname -a i think
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: its been a long day :(
[10:34] <crzedmonk> how do I tell
[10:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: hey get some rest, ill take over a little:)
[10:34] <crzedmonk> I thought I dled 32
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: did you run that big script i hacked out earlier?
[10:34] <crzedmonk> yeah
[10:35] <crzedmonk> Ubuntu 8.04
[10:35] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, does "Cheese" feature setting permanent adjustments for the webcam?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: anddid a file download?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: not sure i dont use webcams, too creepy
[10:35] <crzedmonk>                 no
[10:35] <indus> crzedmonk: when you type uname -a in terminal does it anywher mention x86_64 in the output
[10:35] <ManDay> Haha.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: i know it can test if its working
[10:35] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, creepy, why that?
[10:35] <crzedmonk> crzedmonk@Lintron:~$ uname -a
[10:35] <crzedmonk> Linux Lintron 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:36] <indus> crzedmonk: ook 32 bit
[10:36] <chrisfs> Indus: works much much better. Played the same video I was having trouble with earlier today and it runs quite smoothly now. Many Many Thanks !
[10:36] <indus> all right then :))!
[10:36] <crzedmonk> i686 = 32 right
[10:36] <indus> crzedmonk: so lets solve your problem now
[10:36] <ar10> ManDay, I remember one of the webcam programs supported various visual adjustments, it could be cheese or camorama.
[10:36] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:36] <crzedmonk> YAAY
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: just prefer text, i'm old school. plus you get the whole cybersex nonesense and whatnot
[10:36] <crzedmonk> I hate problems
[10:36] <chrisfs> Thank You Ubuntu gurus, I'm going to bed now
[10:36] <ar10> Or both :-P
[10:37] <indus> crzedmonk: what exactly is your issue
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: download this file to ~/.mozilla/plugins     http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:37] <indus> chrisfs: good night
[10:37] <Threetimes> Hi, how do I execute a command when the size of a file changes?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes: you could install tripwire
[10:38] <Moose> LOLZ UBUNTU ROX!
[10:38]  * Moose waves to lstarnes 
[10:38] <Threetimes> ActionParsnip: will this monitor the file size live or on intervals?
[10:38] <crzedmonk> how do you show hidden files in terminal?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes: i think its live, it watches for changes, i think you can tell it to watch only for filesize changes
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: ls -a
[10:39] <Twinkletoes> Where can I learn how to write an init script?
[10:39] <indus> crzedmonk: ls -al
[10:39] <crzedmonk> thank you
[10:40] <crzedmonk> mozilla has extensions and firefox not plug in
[10:40] <crzedmonk> firefox has a plug in reg but no file directory
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: firefox uses the .mozilal folder for settings
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: the plugins directory needs creating in ~/.mozilla
[10:41] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: thats not the recommended procedure,shouldnt it be /usr/lib/ozilla/plugins
[10:41] <WeazelON> Chromium Rox on ubuntu
[10:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: system wide i mean
[10:41] <indus> !info chromium
[10:41] <indus> bah
[10:41] <WeazelON> thats not true
[10:41] <crzedmonk> ok
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: you can install it on a per user basis in ~ if you like, you'll find most home users only have 1 user so it works fine, but for system wide you are right
[10:42] <crzedmonk> now what?
[10:42] <WeazelON> chromium is Google-Chrome in Ubuntu
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: tar zxvf the file you moved
[10:42] <WeazelON> frickin fast, though its still in dev mode
[10:42] <ManDay> I've installed amsn but apparently there is no sound being transmitted when I "Send webcam", anyone knows why?
[10:42] <crzedmonk> libflashplayer.so
[10:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: is crzedmonk's problem solved now? what was his problem exactly?
[10:42] <WeazelON> aMsn doesnt have video last i checked
[10:43] <indus> ManDay: i told you, amsn dosnt support sound
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: firepup is fast too, as is Kazehakase
[10:43] <ManDay> indus, barfoos however claimed that amsn does support sound
[10:43] <WeazelON> but not as beautiful/awesome as the chrome :D
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: flash
[10:43] <indus> ManDay: its incorrect,sound for msn not implemented yet
[10:43] <Threetimes> WeazelON: Opera is fast
[10:43] <ManDay> indus, ok thanks, can you think of a client which DOES support sound then?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: not bothered for beautiful, i always use liquifox theme
[10:43] <WeazelON> they just implemented the themes feature in chromium
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: skype does, and it does very well
[10:44] <WeazelON> yuck.,,
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: and suports video too
[10:44] <ManDay> indus, I thought of an MSN client
[10:44] <sipior> Threetimes: this might be useful to you, regarding your earlier question: http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[10:44] <ManDay> Yes, I know skype :P
[10:44] <indus> ManDay: no none i know of
[10:44] <ManDay> Ok, thanks then
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: max screen space :) plus small menu plus rearrange bars for lotsa space
[10:44] <ManDay> Is skyke supported by the repos?
[10:44] <Slart> !skype | ManDay
[10:45] <ManDay> thanks
[10:45] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: there is no browser i've seen that has a full screen like chromium, its just the page in fullscreen
[10:45] <indus> ManDay: empathy is a recent client which promises video and voice for linux
[10:45] <Slart> ManDay: not sure if it's in medibuntu or in the regular repos though..
[10:45] <indus> ManDay: yes its there in the partner repos
[10:45] <ManDay> What kind of protocols is empathy for?
[10:45] <Slart> indus: isn't empathy going to be the default client in karmic? I think I read something about that somewhere
[10:45] <indus> Slart: yeah already using karmic so hehe yes
[10:45] <Slart> ManDay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy_(software)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: IE is ok in F11 fullscreen. I use opera personally
[10:46] <Slart> ManDay: sounds like it will handle lots of stuff
[10:46] <ManDay> thanks
[10:46] <indus> Slart: but voice video support not yet there, i heard it works with google talk but i couldnt get it to work
[10:46] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: dude, if fullscreen is your bag, you should really check the fullscreen there
[10:46] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: in Chromium that is of course
[10:46] <Slart> indus: ah.. think I'll have to give karmic a try.. just to see what they are up to.. thanks
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: i dont use alpha software
[10:46] <indus> ManDay: it supports all protocols for chat
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: never have, never will
[10:46] <lianimator> Hi, This is the 2nd time in three days my system has restarted X by itself. It's as if I hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.. but I did not! [ubuntu 8.10]
[10:47] <indus> Slart: its alpha mind it, lots of things missing
[10:47] <Slart> indus: yup.. thanks for the warning
[10:48] <indus> Slart: but its running 'ok' for me ,might have gdm issues, sound crackle etc
[10:48] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: welp,  when it'll be finally released, you will have the privilege to witness real speed.
[10:48] <indus> Slart: alpha 4 is out 2 days then maybe u try>?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: i'll try it out, its free to try ;)
[10:48] <indus> ActionParsnip: which one?
[10:48] <MadGirl> well, which one is it blaise?
[10:48] <Slart> indus: I'll wait for that then..
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: if you want speed, try LXDE :D
[10:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: i want the fastest browser. which one u recommend
[10:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: scrollling should be butter smooth
[10:49] <WeazelON> ActionParsnip: maybe i will, but currently i'm too excited to switch browsers :D
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> indus: firepup, kazehakase, swiftfox
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> WeazelON: its a DE, not a browser
[10:50] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip, Well, dunno if you're interested or not, but it seems that the burning issue is a Linux issue. Both wodim and growisofs ignores the speed parameter for some reason, and since most burning apps use one of those, you simply can't force a certain speed. My girlfriends computer is identical to mine, except she's running WinXP, and there are no problems there.
[10:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: are these webkit based?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> indus: all gecko based
[10:50] <mr_lou> ActionParsnip, There are many posts on various forums about it.
[10:50] <crzedmonk> ok I tar the file do I need to do anything with the libflashplayer.so?
[10:50] <WeazelON> Does anyone know how, for the sake of all that is good,  can one use SSL Network Exteneder in Ubuntu ?
[10:50] <crzedmonk> my stuff is still not working
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: make sure it is in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:51] <indus> crzedmonk: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> mr_lou: thats because XP has billions of dollars plowed into it, Linux doesnt have that
[10:51] <crzedmonk> crzedmonk@Lintron:~/.mozilla/plugins$ ls
[10:51] <crzedmonk> install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz  libflashplayer.so
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> mr_lou: also linux is a different OS to windows so will have different quirks
[10:51] <mikejones> lol has anybody found a way to play netflix movies under ubuntu ?????
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: rm ./install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: then close all firefoxes and then open: http://www.rathergood.com/blode2
[10:53] <ManDay> Concerning ekiga, are there any other casual programs (esp. on Windows, freeware) which support the same protocols as Ekiga?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Windows_Users
[10:53] <crzedmonk> YAAY
[10:53] <crzedmonk> IT works
[10:53] <crzedmonk> thank you
[10:53] <sluurp> kphone mabye
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: np man, i never use the repo way
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I owe you a geek binary blood debt
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: i think it flat out sucks and have a script of my own to do what you just did
[10:54] <crzedmonk> yeah
[10:54] <mikejones> why cant i play online netflix movies on ubuntu?
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I am trying to get better at terminal
[10:54] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[10:54] <crzedmonk> I am new to linux
[10:54] <crzedmonk> vista was my final straw
[10:54] <crzedmonk> so I came to linux
[10:54] <crzedmonk> but I know littler terminal
[10:54] <crzedmonk> so I try to learn by doing
[10:55] <mocas> hi there
[10:55] <meglo> Can you just use any SIP client with an Ekiga.net account?
[10:55] <mocas> does ubuntu 9.0.4 support LVM?
[10:55] <Slart> !lvm | mocas
[10:55] <Slart> mocas: but in short.. yes
[10:55] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, any idea why it depends on a package called "libgdata-google"?
[10:55] <mocas> thks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: as you use it you will learn
[10:56] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: not sure, if you add the meibuntu repo it should be ok but i have no clue
[10:56] <ar10> mikejones, this may be of interest to you : http://www.petitiononline.com/Linflix/petition.html
[10:56] <crzedmonk> I hope so
[10:56] <crzedmonk> seems way better than dos
[10:56] <crzedmonk> makes more sense
[10:56] <crzedmonk> like ls
[10:56] <crzedmonk> and rm
[10:56] <FloodBot2> crzedmonk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, i just dislike it if a package depends on other weird packages of which I dont have a clue what they are good for. And especially "google" makes me suspicious.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: its far more powerful than dos
[10:57] <mikejones> yo thanks ar1o
[10:57] <crzedmonk> seems like it
[10:58] <crzedmonk> is ubuntu the best distro in your opinion
[10:58] <crzedmonk> ?
[10:58] <WeazelON> 9.04 imo
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: not in my opinion, no
[10:58] <lstarnes> crzedmonk: asking in this channel will give you an answer biased towards ubuntu
[10:58] <Kartagis> hello. even though I have bound Lock Screen to F12, it doesn't work. how could that happen?
[10:58] <lstarnes> crzedmonk: ##linux is a more general channel for all linux distributions.  Try asking there
[10:58] <WeazelON> crzedmonk: i guess u can call ubuntu the most user friendly one i think
[10:59] <crzedmonk> I would think so that is why I chose it
[10:59] <mocas> Slart, it's because I wan't to fsck a filesystem inside lvm but I just found sda on /dev :(
[10:59] <crzedmonk> what are some need to have apps for ubuntu?
[10:59] <indus> i think the users are more friendly than the OS itself
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: its a tool for a job, each distro has an aim so i choose the distro that suits the job of the system
[10:59] <pirinto> How do you set permissions for which users to get to use a scanner in Jaunty since they removed the 'scanner' group?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: so imho there is no best distro
[11:00] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. not really sure where the lvm file systems end up.. there's nothing in the docs about that?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> pirinto: tried creating the scanner group yourself?
[11:00] <Slart> mocas: nothing in /dev/LV/ ?
[11:01] <mocas> don't exist /dev/LV
[11:01] <Slart> mocas: or run "sudo lvdisplay".. that might tell you where the volumes are located
[11:02] <Pranky> How to find username and password in ubuntu
[11:02] <crzedmonk> hmmm
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Pranky: can you expand please
[11:02] <Slart> Pranky: username by running "whoami".. passwords can be reset.. hopefully not recovered
[11:02] <crzedmonk> well I guess I will just have to figure it out as I go
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: indeed, just as you did with Windows
[11:02] <crzedmonk> I am using irssi is that good for irc?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: seems to be working ok
[11:03] <crzedmonk> yeah
[11:03] <Slart> crzedmonk: I like it
[11:03] <Pranky> Slart, all these command from safe mode
[11:03] <crzedmonk> I used to use bitchx
[11:03] <chrisellis> any of yall have uverse?
[11:03] <crzedmonk> this seems to work good
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: if you like it, then use it
[11:03] <crzedmonk> YAAY FreedOM!
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !irc | crzedmonk
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> crzedmonk: there are tonnes of irc clients available
[11:04] <Pranky> ActionParsnip, I am install ubuntu 9.04 from Vmplayer.
[11:04] <Pranky> ActionParsnip, but I am not able to get username and password
[11:04] <Slart> Pranky: hmm.. try this then "
[11:04] <Slart> cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000
[11:04] <Slart> Pranky: sorry for the extra line.. copy/paste isn't agreeing with me this morning
[11:04] <pirinto> ActionParsnip: I don't think it's necessary to create the group, one user is able to scan besides root, others cannot so it's not grouprelated anymore
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> !info zsnes
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> I don't see znes in my Jaunty amd64 repo. :3
[11:05] <leaf-sheep> zsnes*
[11:05] <Pranky> Slart, How to reset password
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you can install ia32-libs and run 32bit packages
[11:05] <Slart> Pranky: passwd with some switch
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you will need some 32bit deps for it
[11:05] <mocas> lvdisplay, display the file sistem
[11:06] <mocas> but when I try to fsck
[11:06] <mocas> it says that device not exist
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: or you can try find a ppa with a 64bit version on, compile it yourself or find an alternative
[11:06] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: So it did not show up on the repo because I don't have the ia32-libs? It said it's available for amd64 too.
[11:06] <Slart> Pranky: passwd <USERNAME>    should work, I think
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: its not available on the standard repo for 64bit
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: afaik
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you can download the .deb for the 32bit one and install it, it will run provided you have ia32-libs installed
[11:07] <Slart> mocas: near the top it should say where the lvm volume device is located.. something like /dev/blablabla/blabla
[11:07] <Slart> mocas: make sure you spell it correctly.. use TAB to autocomplete
[11:07] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Trying it now.
[11:08] <mocas> it's what I am saying... lvdisplay shows the folder, but inside /dev don't exist anything
[11:08] <mocas> maybe my ubuntu don't support logical volumes :S
[11:08] <Pvpeter> Hello! is there any way I can make a complete backup to my linux partition to my windows partition? I need to reformat it to change the inode size...
[11:09] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. and lvm is running alright?
[11:09] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !backup > Pvpeter
[11:09] <Slart> mocas: can you pastebin the output from "sudo lvdisplay" ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Pvpeter: could also use partimage
[11:09] <Pvpeter> Actionparsnip: Thanks
[11:10] <Slart> !pastebin | mocas
[11:11] <mocas> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m2f15d7f3
[11:11] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Do I need to do --force-arch for ia32-libs?
[11:12] <Slart> mocas: and /dev/VolGroup00 doesn't exist? make sure you use capital letters where needed
[11:12] <cantoma> guys, I have an eps graph figure that i need to edit (add text, arrows ...) what is the best program for doing this?
[11:12] <eidos> does anyone know if the kworld 120 tvcard is going to be supported soon
[11:12] <Slart> cantoma: inkscape?
[11:12] <mocas> I'm sure that don't exist
[11:12] <Slart> !info inkscape | cantoma
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: no, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: you will need to force-arch for the 32bit deb for zsnes though
[11:12] <cantoma> Slart, so you recommend that one?!
[11:12] <Slart> mocas: hmm.. then I don't really know what to do.. sorry
[11:13] <Slart> cantoma: it's what I use to touch up eps graphs.. that and a text editor
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, i just need to make some boxes and some arrows with text to explain my idea
[11:14] <garymc> Hi im installed Ubuntu Alternate for LTSP, i need to place desktop launchers so all new users log in and have them on their desktops. Im having some difficulty doing this. Any one able to talk me through this?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: personally i'd compile it so it matches your 64bit OS
[11:14] <dcorking> it defies logic (or rather it defies my mental model): where aptitude failed and tried to download non-existent builds from the mirror, synaptic has found the latest jaunty builds on the security repo.  I live and learn.
[11:14] <eidos> does anyone know my my tvcard works only in digital HD on mythtv but does not work on any other program i am trying to get the composite input to work
[11:14] <Slart> cantoma: create from scratch? or you have an eps file you want to edit?
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, i generate it from octave
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> dcorking: i've had people saying synaptic cant find some packages but apt-get can
[11:14] <cantoma> Slart, or matlab (the same)
[11:15] <Slart> cantoma: well.. you can use octave to make boxes and arrows..
[11:15] <dcorking> ActionParsnip: I blame cosmic rays
[11:15] <cantoma> Slart, i also need to put one graph inside the other .. is for a poster
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> dcorking: i just stik to apt-get :)
[11:16] <cantoma> Slart, is like in the corner of one graph it will be another which is what i want to achieve
[11:16] <cantoma> Slart, i am shore i cannot do this with octave
[11:16] <Slart> cantoma: it can be done using matlab at least..
[11:17] <Slart> cantoma: another thing.. I just fired up inkscape just now.. seems I just get an error message when I try to open an eps file.. not really sure if I've updated someting since I used it
[11:17] <dcorking> aptitude has always worked for me, until today - I used it ever since apt-get was deprecated by Debian
[11:17] <GnuSeb> hello there, I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my new laptop compaq presario cq40 laptop, i ran out of discs to burn but i have a flash drive, can i use the netbook remix one?
[11:17] <richardcavell> dcorking: apt-get has been deprecated?
[11:17] <Kartagis> hello. even though I have bound Lock Screen to F12, it doesn't work. how could that happen?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: no
[11:18] <cantoma> Slart, must programs have that problem .. they don't open eps
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: its used in ubuntu
[11:18] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I know it is
[11:19] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: What's wrong with it?
[11:19] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: [rhetorical question]
[11:19] <kapil> GnuSeb: the netbook remix installs a different GUI from the usual ubuntu default.
[11:19] <cantoma> Slart, so what would you use for eps editing?
[11:20] <GnuSeb> kapil: what does that mean?
[11:20] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: Nothing. I'd say.  It's... different package manager. :3
[11:20] <GnuSeb> I can't?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: its awesome [ironic answer]
[11:20] <kapil> you can but it will look different from "classic" ubuntu
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> kapil: it also has a few different settings for apps suitable for netbook screens
[11:20] <Slart> cantoma: hang on.. I'm trying to find out what I have been using
[11:21] <kapil> i use ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one and it works fine but ymmv.
[11:21] <nomike> hi
[11:21] <E_L_K_> hello. i have a problem with running 9.04 ubuntu on compaq evo n800c notebook with ati mobility radeon 7500 video card. Xorg just hangs after start and no keyboard/mouse works. have tried radeon,ati and vesa drivers, which don't changes anything. can anyone give me tips to solving this issue or at least direction to dig into?
[11:22] <dcorking> way beack (debian 3.1 iirc) Debian decided that end users should use aptitude as the front end to apt-get
[11:22] <oguncak> hi friends. i deleted my upper panel on gnome, i created a new one. but now i cant find the start menu with my name. how can i find that back?
[11:22] <dcorking> way back!
[11:22] <kiminaiseah> hi, wheres the right room for mysql-clustering
[11:22] <Slart> cantoma: you're just doing regular graphs from octave? you could do them in gnuplot if you want.. it seems to have a bit more features compared to octave
[11:22] <GnuSeb> kapil: are there any screen shots? will it be all messed from the screen dimensions ro something?
[11:22] <nomike> Could it be, that JFS does not support ACL's or, that the option is disabled in the Ubuntu-Default kernel?
[11:23] <cantoma> Slart, i could but the thing is .. can then you add one graph (inside the other)?
[11:23] <Spike1506> goodday, i have a trust wireless usb mouse but it seems to lag.. my touchpad seems to work fine, i already switched batteries. any solution to it?
[11:23] <Slart> cantoma: yes.. gnuplot can do that
[11:23] <Spike1506> it doesnt lag all the time, just random
[11:23] <grawity> JFS seems to have ACLs... and Ubuntu has ACL support with at least ext3.
[11:23] <cantoma> Slart, but its just command line right?
[11:24] <francisfelidae> hi! how can I activate vim plugins?
[11:24] <cantoma> Slart, i would like to have something more drag and drop
[11:24] <Zxcvb> I only get 11-14fps in etracer on a i945gme card, is that normal?
[11:24] <Slart> cantoma: here are samples of gnuplot diagrams.. with source code
[11:24] <rski> Zxcvb: yea
[11:25] <Slart> cantoma: well.. I don't really know of anything that does that..
[11:25] <oguncak> how can i find the start menu that includes my name?
[11:25] <Zxcvb> rski: ok, just checking
[11:25] <redbrain> any postfix gurus here its pissing me off
[11:25] <Zxcvb> rski: seems kind of low
[11:26] <kapil> GnuSeb: have a look at http://www.imsc.res.in/~kapil/UNR.png
[11:26] <leaf-sheep> ActionParsnip: Care to help me compiling zsnes?
[11:26] <rski> Zxcvb: and the 945 is kid of bad. :)
[11:26] <mickster04> oguncak, wont it be one of the menu addables?
[11:26] <GnuSeb> kapil: not found on this server
[11:26] <Zxcvb> rski: could have sworn the i915 was faster
[11:26] <GnuSeb> kapil: but technically speaking it has all the same features right?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: read the readme in the source tarball, it will tell you all
[11:27] <kapil> GnuSeb: sorry. sent the message before uploading!
[11:27] <mickster04> oguncak, try the shutdown and log out items too, it might be one of them
[11:27] <aaditya> what could make the "Suspend" option disappear from all my gnome menus?
[11:28] <Zxcvb> rski: do you think it would be best to use opengl or software rendering for ps1 games on that card?
[11:28] <rski> no idea never used intel
[11:28] <kapil> GnuSeb: see what ActionParsnip said. it is optimised for netbook usage. this means (a) small screen (b) high portability.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kapil: GnuSeb: also low(ish) system power
[11:29] <GnuSeb> will it work on a normal 14 inch screen though?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure
[11:29] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, right now I have a compaq presario cq40 laptop with 2 ghz memory
[11:30] <GnuSeb> it came with vista basic on it
[11:30] <mickster04> 2 ghz mem?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: thats plenty, it will flyyyyy
[11:30] <richardcavell> GnuSeb: You mean 2 Gigabytes
[11:30] <GnuSeb> can i install ubuntu unr and still leave windows on a different partition
[11:30] <GnuSeb> yes i meant
[11:30] <GnuSeb> two 2gb
[11:30] <mickster04> oh ok :D
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: its more than an eeepc so its fine
[11:31] <aaditya> gconf was the answer
[11:31] <GnuSeb> eepc?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: those tiny netbooks from Asus?
[11:31] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, will i be able to leave the factory preinstalled vista, make a partition, install ubuntu unr, mount partition and transfer files?
[11:31] <Miki> hello !!!
[11:32] <mickster04> hi
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure, you will need ntfs-3g to get write access to ntfs
[11:32] <dabukalam> GnuSeb: Really cheap small underpowered notebooks, referred to as "netbooks"
[11:32] <mickster04> :D
[11:32] <Miki> do you know if there are errors on ubuntu  dvd 9.04 ?
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: no
[11:32] <Miki> i tested twice  with md5
[11:32] <dabukalam> !ubuntu
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: Are you trying to install from a 9.04 DVD?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Miki: if the md5 hashes match then your download is ok
[11:32] <Miki> yes
[11:32] <dabukalam> !dvd
[11:32] <richardcavell> Miki: So your md5 hash matches?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Miki: the second test will be the same as the first
[11:32] <Miki> yes correct
[11:33] <Miki> yes on the iso and files
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Miki: then its a full and correct iso
[11:33] <richardcavell> Miki: So are you able to burn it to a DVD?
[11:33] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, one thing tha concerns me is that of battery power and overheating, my windows laptop tends to run out battery power quickly after a couple of hours and it gets really hot too
[11:33] <Miki> but when i burn with nero  there are 3 errors
[11:33] <GnuSeb> if i install unr will that improve
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Miki: burn it as slow as you are able and boot to it, then check the CD once booted to the first menu
[11:34] <richardcavell> Miki: he means check the DVD
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: i'm unsure of that, you can set power setting sin both OSes. Try setting a power saving mode when it is on battery
[11:34] <Miki> again with md5 ?
[11:34] <richardcavell> Miki: Mate, last time I installed Ubuntu I went through 5 CDs before I got a good burn.  Sometimes it's just bad luck.
[11:34] <Miki>  i burn 3 times ... always  little erros
[11:34] <GnuSeb> i thought ubuntu had better battery/energy consumption
[11:34] <Alvinware> How to change WiFi Channel, and Modulation in Ubuntu?
[11:34] <mickster04> Miki, what errors
[11:35] <Miki> i just use 3 so i need 2 more !!!!!
[11:35] <Threetimes> GnuSeb: depends on how you use it.
[11:35] <mickster04> Miki, try redownloading the img?
[11:35] <richardcavell> mickster04: no, his md5 matches
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: it can with settings. Te OS doesnt really dictate the power usage, its the users settings
[11:35] <Miki> yes .. i can redownoad ... but the md5 is correct
[11:35] <Miki> so i think is something else ......
[11:35] <richardcavell> Miki: if your md5 is correct then you don't need to download again
[11:35] <leaf-sheep> GnuSeb: Turn off your MONITOR!!  (Only when you're done with it. :3)
[11:35] <mickster04> richardcavell, oh ok
[11:35] <richardcavell> Miki: Mate, you just need to keep burning until you get a good one
[11:35] <Threetimes> GnuSeb: If you run compiz, it will use a lot of battery power (i guess) so i wouldn't use it on a laptop.
[11:35] <dcorking> advantage of aptitude (and synaptic) is that it can uninstall unused dependencies - APT can't do that on its own
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: so you could set really poor battery saving settings in ubuntu and really good ones n windows and assume windows is "better" at battery saving
[11:36] <ubuntunewbie> does anyone know how to set up virtualbox ? is this the correct guide ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-virtualbox-202-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[11:36] <richardcavell> Miki: burn it as slow as possible, and close down all non essential software  while you burn
[11:36] <Miki> ok try to burn very very slow last time at 8 x
[11:36] <ililil> hi, how can i find and list the full paths of all files which filenames contain 'hans'
[11:36] <dcorking> leaf-sheep: aptitude isn't a different package manager - it is merely a more feature-full front end for APT
[11:36] <richardcavell> Miki: 8 x isn't slow for a DVD
[11:36] <dcorking> join #gnome
[11:36] <Threetimes> ililil: find / | grep hand
[11:36] <Threetimes> ililil: find / | grep hans
[11:36] <Miki> i used the speed test of nero  ... before burn
[11:36] <sluurp> ubuntunewbie yes it is
[11:36] <mickster04> Miki, try 2x
[11:36] <richardcavell> ililil: or locate hans
[11:36] <mickster04> ?
[11:36] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, shouldi go ahead and start downloading the ubuntu unr? can i also download the xubuntu and kubuntu packages from its repos?
[11:37] <Alvinware> How to change WiFi Channel, and Modulation in Ubuntu?
[11:37] <leaf-sheep> dcorking: Which then uses dpkg. :)
[11:37] <Miki> i think it's not supported 2x
[11:37] <richardcavell> Miki: Go as slow as you can
[11:37] <Miki> ok
[11:37] <Miki> i understand
[11:37] <ililil> thanks, Threetimes
[11:37] <GnuSeb> i have a m2 2 gb storage card with an adaptor for usb, can i format that and use it to install ubuntu?
[11:37] <Miki> thanks ...
[11:37] <richardcavell> Miki: also, I got more success with different recordable media
[11:37] <dome412> Hello to everybody......I need a help....can anybody help me with PAE question?
[11:37] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: sudo iwconfig wlan0 channel <number> sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu <whatever>
[11:37] <ubuntunewbie> sluurp: I had a very limited knowledge on virtualbox .Actually how virtualbox works ?
[11:37] <erUSUL> Alvinware: sudo iwconfig wlan0 channel <number> sudo iwconfig wlan0 modu <whatever>
[11:37] <richardcavell> Miki: sometimes you just need to fiddle with it until the thing just works
[11:37] <Miki> i have also a usbkey  of 4giga ....
[11:37] <erUSUL> Alvinware: see man iwconfig
[11:38] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: sorry tab comp error ;P
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: you can download xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop once installed and switch at logon if you wish
[11:38] <ubuntunewbie> sluurp: installing it with deb vb 3.0
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: been there too ;)
[11:38] <Threetimes> ililil: locate hans is faster
[11:38] <Miki> richardcavell,  maybe i can keep out some files..
[11:38] <richardcavell> Miki: no, no.
[11:38] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip,  so getting the UNR shouldn't make anythign less practical thanotherwise right?
[11:38] <richardcavell> Miki: burn the DVD as is.  You just need to fiddle with things.
[11:39] <richardcavell> Miki: burn as slow as you can, try a different brand of recordable DVD
[11:39] <Miki> richardcavell,  for the moment i used only tdk
[11:39] <richardcavell> Miki: close down non-essential software while burning
[11:39] <Miki> richardcavell,  also antivirus ?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: no its fine, if you want to test you can run a virtual system to try it out
[11:40] <richardcavell> Miki: that doesn't really matter
[11:40] <richardcavell> Miki: but don't surf the web or do anything else
[11:40] <GnuSeb> OK, i am downloading the image, now i have to go and format the sandisk m2 card before i think
[11:40] <GnuSeb> brb
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: remember to md5
[11:40] <dome412> Hello to everybody......
[11:41] <Miki> richardcavell,  no  surfing
[11:41] <dome412> I need a help....
[11:41] <uhok> hi dome412
[11:41] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, md5?
[11:41] <Miki> richardcavell,  thanks for you assistance , maybe i can do it
[11:41] <dome412> can anybody help me with PAE question?
[11:41] <richardcavell> Miki: yeah, it prevents buffer underrun
[11:41] <Miki> richardcavell,  see soon
[11:41] <richardcavell> Miki: just keep trying
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: md5 check the file you download to make sure it is correct
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | GnuSeb
[11:41] <uhok> If I mount two partitions to the same folder in /media (and I make a file in that folder), will it write it to both of the partitions?
[11:42] <dome412> ....i just want to use all my 4 Giga of RAM installed in my PC
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> uhok: not possible, you can only mount one device to on foilder
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> uhok: you will need to use rsync to replicate the changes across
[11:43] <uhok> Thanks ActionParsnip, will do.
[11:43] <erry> Hai
[11:43] <richardcavell> uhok: how would you mount two partitions to the one mount point?
[11:43] <thesystemnetwork> hi
[11:43] <erry> is there a package i can install to see hebrew characters fine when i open a file with them in gedit?
[11:43] <dome412> uhok.....could i speak to you?
[11:44] <mikejones> lol even watch-movies-links.net dont even play movies using ubuntu i give up
[11:44] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, can I run gnome normally eventhough I'm getting the UNR?
[11:44] <uhok> dome412, yes
[11:44] <GnuSeb> like the normal GUI
[11:44] <uhok> richardcavell, fstab
[11:44] <erry> hello?
[11:44] <MadGirl> i heard hello was this right syntax? routes_eth0=("-net 188.40.73.128 netmask 255.255.255.192 default via 188.40.73.129") ?
[11:44] <dome412> first of all....I'm very sorry for my english.......
[11:44] <richardcavell> uhok: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure, you can even install kde based apps, you will be able to run all apps on any DE
[11:45] <Threetimes> Hi, how can I see the number of unread mails. I use Maildir.
[11:45] <uhok> Synchronize certain select folders (like a backup)
[11:45] <mickster04> mikejones, whats up?
[11:45] <richardcavell> uhok: okay
[11:45] <dome412> now, have you seen my question I wrote before?
[11:45] <richardcavell> uhok: I really don't think you should try to do it like that
[11:45] <uhok> richardcavell, why
[11:45] <thesystemnetwork> is it possible to build only one single Kernelmodule?
[11:45] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, but can i switch betweenthe simple gui that's unr specific and hte normal ubuntu gnome one?  i'm mostly going to install the unr because i have a flashdrive
[11:46] <richardcavell> uhok: I think you should mount one partition and use it normally, then use rsync or clonezilla to create a backup of it periodically
[11:46] <uhok> richardcavell, I deal with over 4tb of data.
[11:46] <dome412> it's about enable 4 giga of RAM in my 32bit pc
[11:46] <Threetimes> GnuSeb: you might try to install ubuntu-desktop after you installed UNR
[11:46] <mikejones> mickster04 im chillin trying to find a site to watch a movie on using ubuntu without having to switch to windows
[11:46] <Guest6277> -
[11:46] <DaZ> dome412: pae?;f
[11:47] <dabukalam> mikejones: you mean a player?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: sure, you can switch between DEs by logging off, switching, the logging on but as I said you can run any app installed on your system in any DE
[11:47] <Total_Oblivion> what does compiz actually do?
[11:47] <leaf-sheep> GnuSeb: Check out http://www.lesswatts.org/  --> I found out interesting stuffs there... including xset which can toggle on/off/limit on voices, keyclick, screen, mouse, etc.
[11:47] <Threetimes> Hi, how can I see the number of unread mails. I use Maildir.
[11:47] <dome412> daz......about enable 4 giga of RAM in my 32bit pc
[11:47] <sluurp> freezing ubuntu, @ my machine
[11:47] <Slart> Total_Oblivion: it provides the composite extension
[11:47] <DaZ> Total_Oblivion:makes linuxx superior to vista !!1onenene
[11:47] <mickster04> mikejones, is it a problem with ff and flash?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Total_Oblivion: it renders each window as a graphic, it can then display them in various ways like making cube desktops and annoying animations
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> DaZ: i think its horrific
[11:48] <dabukalam> mikejones:, if it's a DVD you're trying to watch, get vlc
[11:48] <mickster04> mikejones, i;ve had problems with flash (as have most ppl)
[11:48] <dabukalam> !vlc > mikejones
[11:48] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, so it won't necessarily have to looklike this http://www.lesswatts.org/
[11:48] <Slart> Total_Oblivion: ie each window doesn't get drawn to the screen but to a buffer.. then compiz decides where to put the buffer.. that can be on the sides of a cube.. or it can make reflections of that buffer.. or split it.. burn it etc
[11:48] <mikejones> dabuk naw i mean like netflix and sites like it i used when i used windows dosent work using ubuntu
[11:48] <GnuSeb> er * http://www.imsc.res.in/~kapil/UNR.png
[11:48] <lwizardl> hi
[11:48] <dabukalam> mikejones: okay you need to get flash
[11:48] <Slart> Total_Oblivion: all these things happens transparently to the application.. it doesn't have to know that it's window is being drawn upside down etc..
[11:49] <erry> HELLO
[11:49] <Total_Oblivion> ok.. as Daz said makes linuxxx much much better than vista
[11:49] <erry> oh fuck it.
[11:49] <dome412> can anybody tell me how to eanable 4Giga of RAM in my ubuntu desktop 32-bit, please?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: not necessarily as that is the default UNR desktop
[11:49] <Total_Oblivion> from i understood at least:P
[11:49] <leaf-sheep> For those who're curious, run "xset q" in the terminal will reveal some interesting stuffs about your machine.
[11:49] <Total_Oblivion> *what
[11:49] <Slart> !pae | dome412
[11:49] <ubuntu> hi to the room
[11:49] <lstarnes> dome412: you might need to use the 64-bit version
[11:49] <Slart> dome412: hmm.. why not use the server kernel.. I think it has PAE enabled by default
[11:49] <mikejones> i got flash it plays youtube videos
[11:49] <dome412> and i don't want to use 64 bit version
[11:49] <dabukalam> mikejones: type this in terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> dome412: you can use PAE
[11:50] <Threetimes> How can I see the number of unread mails? I use Maildir.
[11:50] <dabukalam> mikejones: oh
[11:50] <dabukalam> mikejones: what doesn't it play?
[11:50] <lstarnes> dome412: you might have to use it.   I haven't had any major issues with it
[11:50] <Slart> Total_Oblivion: I think vista uses some kind of compositing window manager too.. not really that different afaik
[11:50] <kkszysiu> aero
[11:50] <sluurp> vista looks like kde
[11:50] <lwizardl> I'm configuring a Ubuntu Server and was wondering if someone could help me with something. I'm currently on the /etc/hosts file configure.
[11:51] <dabukalam> mikejones: you have java?
[11:51] <dome412> ActionParship: how can i use PAE?
[11:51] <barfoos> sluurp: kde looks like vista.
[11:51] <lwizardl> when I set the settings for the server what should i place in the 127.0.1.1 section ? the real IP for the server ?
[11:51] <m3m0r3xXx``> barfoos: +1
[11:51] <mikejones> dosent play netflix movies
[11:51] <dabukalam> mikejones: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[11:51] <grawity> lwizardl: No, just leave the 127.0.0.x lines as they are.
[11:51] <sluurp> what was first? kde or vista?
[11:51] <Pharsalus> KDE
[11:51] <grawity> lwizardl: Just change the hostname though
[11:52] <sluurp> UH HUH
[11:52] <Pharsalus> so Vista looks like KDE
[11:52] <grawity> sluurp: Do you mean KDE 4, or KDE in general?
[11:52] <barfoos> sluurp: also it's a very bad attempt in interface design, it's far from being unique.
[11:52] <Slart> !ot
[11:52] <mikejones> dabuk what will that do?
[11:52] <Threetimes> How can I see the number of unread mails? I use Maildir.
[11:52] <thesystemnetwork> hey, i am encountering a problem with usb, to be more concrete with the ehci high speed mode when i connect a 16gb usb-stick it's only recognized as a fullspeed device. external usb-hdd works fine as highspeed. i figured out that it's maybe a problem with the 250mil sec timeout set in ehci-hcd.c ... someone encountered this problem too?
[11:52] <dome412> i'm new about ubuntu....I would like to create four-five virtual machine to simulate a LAN and try some experiments....
[11:52] <sluurp> i mean in general
[11:52] <m3m0r3xXx``> the old version of kde doesent look like KDE
[11:52] <m3m0r3xXx``> like vista*
[11:52] <Slart> thesystemnetwork: nope.. not that I know of..
[11:53] <dabukalam> !qumo
[11:53] <lwizardl> grawity: ok I made it look like 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost & 127.0.1.1 servername.domain.tld servername
[11:53] <dabukalam> !qemu
[11:53] <Slart> dome412: try virtualbox.. it's fairly easy to setup a system like you described
[11:53] <lwizardl> grawity: is that correct?
[11:53] <EagleScreen> KDE can look like Vista, like Gnome or like you want
[11:53] <thesystemnetwork> hmm
[11:53] <mikejones> dabuk what will sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin do?
[11:53] <m3m0r3xXx``> will install java6 )
[11:53] <Alvinware> erUSUL, It didn't successfully changed, when i follow the command, and i retype iwconfig to see, and modu didn't work.
[11:53] <dabukalam> mikejones: it will download and install java6
[11:54] <lwizardl> mikejones: install the sun version of java6
[11:54] <Slart> dome412: if you're low on memoty you might want to try a leaner distro .. or xubuntu
[11:54] <grawity> lwizardl: Yes. (The 127.0.0.1 line could contain only 'localhost', but it's not that important)
[11:54] <dome412> yse...it's exactly what i do, but I want to see all my 4 giga and not only 3 giga of RAM...this is my question
[11:54] <GnuSeb> ActionParsnip, what is the image writer?
[11:54] <dabukalam> mikejones: you follow through an installer, accept terma na dconditions etc. if you don't have it, get it.
[11:54] <dabukalam> wow epic spelling fail
[11:54] <erUSUL> Alvinware: then i dunno... i allways use default settings.. (what my accespoint provides)
[11:54] <m3m0r3xXx``> hah
[11:54] <Slart> dome412: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[11:55] <Threetimes> How can I see the number of unread mails? I use Maildir.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> GnuSeb: not sure
[11:55] <grawity> Threetimes: From command line, or from GUI?
[11:55] <maxagaz> arp -d 10.100.100.10 in root doesn't fluch this address, why ?
[11:56] <mickster04> mikejones, tell us if it solves the problem?
[11:56] <Threetimes> grawity: command line
[11:56] <Darkcraft> hi
[11:56] <mickster04> hi
[11:56] <Darkcraft> is it possible to run ubuntu from a cd if you don't have a hard drive in your computer?
[11:56] <grawity> Darkcraft: Yes.
[11:57] <dome412> slart: thank you, but i've already done it.............I just want to use my desktop version, not server version....I think it's different....isn't it?
[11:57] <grawity> Threetimes: I think there was a command, but I don't remember it... how about just doing ls Maildir/new | wc -l
[11:57] <mickster04> darkcr
[11:57] <Slart> dome412: of course it is.. it has PAE enabled =)
[11:57] <mickster04> Darkcraft, but u cant save the session etc...
[11:57] <dome412> just for this?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Darkcraft: absolutely
[11:57] <Slart> dome412: apart from that I don't think you'll notice a big difference..
[11:57] <sluurp> Threetimes: http://blog.no-panic.at/2006/10/04/show-number-of-unread-messages-at-login-on-shell/?no_back=1
[11:57] <Darkcraft> :O I'm surprised by that, thank you very much :D
[11:57] <grawity> Darkcraft: LiveCDs are actually designed to never require or use the HD.
[11:58] <mikejones> mickster aight installing now
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Darkcraft: if you want persistant settings you can mount your home dir on a removable mediia
[11:58] <grawity> Darkcraft: And Ubuntu CDs are just LiveCDs with installer included.
[11:58] <dome412> slart: actually, i don't know....I think desktop version is more efficent for user application than the server version
[11:58] <Threetimes> grawity: Maildir/new stays empty when I have unread mail
[11:58] <shambat> my dhcp server is getting a lot of DHCPDISCOVER and sending DHCPOFFER messages, but almost no REQUESTs and ACKs ... what could be the reason for this? I have tried a tcpdump and I can see this line: IP 129.241.77.126 > 158.38.112.19: ICMP host 129.241.95.193 unreachable - admin prohibited filter, length 36, is this the request being blocked?
[11:59] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[11:59] <grawity> Threetimes: Hmm... is Maildir/cur empty too?
[11:59] <Threetimes> sluurp: I don't want to see it at login
[11:59] <Threetimes> grawity: maildir/cur contains all my mail, including the unread one.
[12:00] <Slart> dome412: mm.. I still think the difference is negligable.
[12:00] <barfoos> whats the best way to access a network manager control applet (could be terminal based, ncurses or command line too), when running a window manager without system tray area?
[12:00] <x-tra> hi guys
[12:00] <barfoos> s/network\ manager/NetworkManager/
[12:00] <grawity> barfoos: nm-applet? nm-connection-editor?
[12:00] <x-tra> is x-chat a nice irc client, or am i missing something ?
[12:00] <grawity> barfoos: Type 'nm-', and press Tab.
[12:01] <grawity> x-tra: It is one of the nicest. (I personally prefer irssi though.)
[12:01] <x-tra> oh, thx, will check it out
[12:01] <Threetimes> Just checked, it's in Maildir/cur/
[12:01] <mickster04> !tab | mikejones,
[12:01] <barfoos> grawity: how would i start it upon windowmanger startup without a systray?
[12:01] <xenoterracide> what kernel is 9.04 running?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> barfoos: you could use alltray ;)
[12:02] <mohan_> hi..
[12:02] <mohan_> same problem..
[12:02] <mickster04> goodday
[12:02] <mikejones> how do i remove sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin cause youtube videos want play
[12:02] <mohan_> system freezing..
[12:02] <Threetimes> xenoterracide: 9.04 desktop or 9.04 server?
[12:02] <mohan_> using ubuntu 9.04 64bit..
[12:02] <barfoos> ActionParsnip: isn't there a way without a system tray?
[12:02] <mohan_> pls anybody help :(
[12:02] <grawity> Threetimes: Hrm. [The joys of Maildir...] I guess checking the mailbox with, say, mutt won't work? *continues googling*
[12:02] <mickster04> mikejones, sudo apt-get remove <bla bla>
[12:03] <xenoterracide> Threetimes: server, there's a difference in base system?
[12:03] <mikejones> thanks
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> barfoos: not sure, if you want the app in the tray and it wont stay there then alltray will run it there, you can use all try for any app (except terminal, weird)
[12:03] <Threetimes> grawity: i just need a number as output, and it must be really fast (will execute every second)
[12:03] <mickster04> mikejones, it shouldnt cause it tho...
[12:03] <Threetimes> xenoterracide: yes, different kernels are used for different tasks. Don't ask me why
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: if you install openssh-server. wait for a crash then ssh in from another pc and run: dmesg | tail
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> barfoos: is that what you meant
[12:04] <xenoterracide> Threetimes: well they need to be built differently but I'm surprised they'd be a different major version...
[12:04] <mickster04> i have an update that is greyed out, what does this mean?
[12:04] <Threetimes> 9.04 desktop has 2.6.28-14-generic, 8.04 server has 2.6.24-24-server
[12:04] <barfoos> ActionParsnip: hmm, thanks anyways, i just wonder if NetworkManager in particular requires the user to run a windowmanager or desktop environment with a systray to access its controls.
[12:04] <xenoterracide> huh
[12:04] <xenoterracide> intersting
[12:04] <xenoterracide> k thanks
[12:04] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: wow man.. this is a new thing for me..
[12:04] <Threetimes> But the server is 8.04 (LTS), not 9.04
[12:04] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: can u pls eloborate :)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> barfoos: if you use static ip you can use /etc/network/interfaces to define your network settings
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:05] <Total_Oblivion> and i presume compizcfig is nessecary to install cause it automatically makes all windows effects possible?
[12:05] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: ok sir .. doing it now..
[12:05] <grawity> Threetimes: http://burningsoda.com/software/newmail/ seems to be something like...
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: you can then connect from another pc using ssh user@servername (in linux) or putty user@servername (for windows)
[12:05] <Pvpeter> I can't backup my partition, since I'm using it.... And unmounting it makes partimage unaccesible
[12:05] <Total_Oblivion> *compizconfig i meant
[12:06] <grawity> Pvpeter: LiveCD?
[12:06] <MadGirl> it has been said that LiveCD is just a demo, so you can try out Gentoo. You need to install it to use it for real.
[12:06] <Pvpeter> grawity: Have no empty CDs
[12:06] <barfoos> ActionParsnip: again that's not what i want, as just said i don't want to get rid of NM nor do i want to use static ip configuration since i use dhcp providing static ip's with local dns names.
[12:06] <Anarhist> !clone
[12:06] <xenoterracide> Threetimes: according to the site there's a 9.04 server http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server
[12:06] <grawity> Total_Oblivion: CompizConfig is not required for effects to work, but it allows you to enable and disable individual effects.
[12:06] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: how to know my username and servername? my other system is also ubuntu..
[12:06] <Total_Oblivion> aha
[12:07] <Total_Oblivion> is there any torrent client for ubuntu?
[12:07] <grawity> Total_Oblivion: Lots. Transmission, Deluge...
[12:07] <mohan_> Total_Oblivion: yeah..
[12:07] <grawity> !torrent | Total_Oblivion
[12:07] <grawity> Total_Oblivion: Ubuntu actually comes with Transmission preinstalled.
[12:08] <Threetimes> xenoterracide: i know there is, but I don't want to update my server every few months. I'm lazy
[12:08] <Total_Oblivion> do i have to port forward in order to achieve maximum dl speed?
[12:08] <sachael> does anyone know a good kde app for managing wireless connection?
[12:08] <grawity> Total_Oblivion: Yes, you usually need to forward at least one port.
[12:08] <xenoterracide> Threetimes: yeah prolly. I'm working on setting up a new server. I'm debating what OS I want on it
[12:09] <Anarhist> !automate
[12:09] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: how to know my username and servername? pls .. :)
[12:09] <grawity> mohan_: 'whoami', and 'hostname --fqdn'
[12:09] <mickster04> mikejones, any luck?
[12:09] <mohan_> grawity: thank u :)
[12:10] <grawity> mohan_: actually, if it's your own PC, the username will be the same one you use
[12:10]  * mickster04 thinks this channel proves there is hope for humanity:D
[12:10] <grawity> mickster04: Sometimes, I highly doubt that...
[12:11] <mickster04> grawity, there are always excpetions :P
[12:11] <Total_Oblivion> how do i port forward deluge?
[12:11] <radioman-lt> ;}
[12:11] <mickster04> so anyone not being helped?
[12:11] <mohan_> grawity: my user name is mohan and hostname is mohan-desktop..
[12:12] <mohan_> grawity: now i did ssh from other system..
[12:12] <jetdebian>  I want to integrate MIT Kerberos along with LDAP ,I have googled for more than a month and I found no good reference ,would you suggest me some good reference where I can go please
[12:12] <mohan_> grawity: its showing ssh: could not resolve hostname..
[12:12] <grawity> mohan_: You probably need to use the IP address.
[12:12] <Brazz> Good morning, what's sudo and root?
[12:12] <grawity> jetdebian: What are you trying to do currently?
[12:13] <Brazz> I am reading about it but it just mentions those two and not what they actually mean
[12:13] <Lily-Rose> Heyyy
[12:13] <humbolt> Anybody any experience with KVM?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: its the username you login with, the servername can be learned by running: cat /etc/hostname
[12:13] <grawity> Brazz: In Unix and Linux, root is the first user account ever created. It has absolute power over the system -- usually you would use it to install software, change system config, etc.
[12:14] <Lily-Rose> Helooo
[12:14] <grawity> Brazz: 'sudo' is a program created to allow you use root privileges without needing to know root's password.
[12:14] <jetdebian> I am trying to have a server for highschool in which i want to enable kerberos along with ldap I am using Debian and ubuntu as a client
[12:14] <Brazz> ok, so sudo is not a secondary user, its a command-line to access the root ?
[12:15] <Brazz> grawity: ok, so sudo is not a secondary user, its a command-line to access the root ?
[12:15] <grawity> Brazz: Correct
[12:15] <Brazz> grawity: Thank you =)
[12:15] <grawity> Brazz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_user is an article about the root user.
[12:15] <Threetimes> I cant compile newmail. http://burningsoda.com/software/newmail/ http://pastebin.com/fd9c6ebd
[12:15] <Brazz> grawity: I'm reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 atm, reading it at the deepest
[12:16] <jetdebian> grawity I think I have explained what I am looking for
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Brazz: provided your username is in the 'admin' group, it is allowed to use sudo and gksudo to launch apps and commands that need administrive access like installing programs or changing files that are not oned by the user
[12:18] <Brazz> grawity: they say that You should never use normal sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo to run such programs. Because it would prevent the home directories of being owned by root. What does that actually mean?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> the 'sudo' system has a lot more 'features' then just 'the command you use to do root things' :)
[12:19] <Brazz> ActionParsnip: Thank you pal
[12:19] <leaf-sheep> What's the command to RUDELY kill off the process? killall didn't do it.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: kep it simple for now ;)
[12:19] <code_blocks> how to install lamp ? what's the command ?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: kill -9
[12:19] <leaf-sheep> !lamp | code_blocks
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:  using sudo, can goof up permissions. :)  and may not always work right. (it can work, but can goof up)
[12:19] <zealiod> im using a mac and i'm trying to create a custom distro - I have all the files together, hidden ones included and have created an ISO... but when i burn that iso to disk - the machine doesnt see it as a bootable drive? ANy ideas what im missing?
[12:19] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show any longer a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[12:20] <code_blocks> leaf-sheep: yes LAMP , how to insall , what's the command ? "sudo apt-get install ??"
[12:20] <grawity> Brazz: For graphical applications, there is a "graphical sudo" - gksudo. It is needed because graphical apps work a little different than command line ones.
[12:20] <jetdebian> I am asking again so that new comers may have a look or so "  I am trying to have a server for highschool in which i want to enable kerberos along with ldap I am using Debian and ubuntu as a client and  I want to integrate MIT Kerberos along with LDAP ,I have googled for more than a month and I found no good reference ,would you suggest me some good reference where I can go please"
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> zealiod:  you have to some how put a bootloader on the iso. such as 'sysiso'    (i think thats the right name, i havent messsed with making a custo bootable iso in ages.
[12:20] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: but in the article I'm reading they recommend (for my own security) to use a secodary account and not the root, that way it will be harder for people to be successfull in case of a possible invasion.
[12:21] <grawity> Dr_Willis: isolinux?
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  part of the syslinux tools.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> it may be called sysiso.. i forget. :)
[12:21] <Brazz> grawity: I understand that part, but the part I dont understand is that it might own my home directory will be owned by root if I do so.
[12:22] <Brazz> grawity: what does that actually mean? as a secondary account is it already owned by root?
[12:22] <code_blocks> how to install lamp ? what's the command ?
[12:22] <grawity> !lamp | code_blocks
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> The Syslinux Project covers lightweight bootloaders for MS-DOS FAT filesystems (SYSLINUX), network booting (PXELINUX), bootable "El Torito" CD-ROMs (ISOLINUX), and Linux ext2/ext3 filesystems (EXTLINUX).
[12:22] <jre2> could anyone direct me to an update to date repository for packages like w32codecs?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/The_Syslinux_Project
[12:22] <code_blocks> how to install lamp ? what's the command ?is there any command to install LAMP with apt-get
[12:22] <leaf-sheep> code_blocks: sudo apt-get read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> jre2:  You have tried the medibuntu repos?
[12:23] <grawity> code_blocks: See ubottu's message.
[12:23] <grawity> leaf-sheep: +1
[12:23] <danbhfive> code_blocks: use tasksel
[12:23] <bazhang> code_blocks, read the link
[12:23] <code_blocks> ok
[12:23] <jre2> Dr_Willis: nope. are they current?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> jre2:  they are what most everyone uses.. no idea how 'current' figures into the equation. :) i can play most every video file ive found.
[12:23] <grawity> Brazz: Some applications need to create files in your home directory. If such a program is run by root, all files created by it will -even in your homedir- be owned by root. (Just like it always is - programs running as you create files owned by you.)
[12:24] <Threetimes> code_blocks: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server (that's just a default setup, if you need moren install more :D)
[12:24] <code_blocks> is there any command to check whether a service is running or is it stopped ?  how can i check if the httpd service is running ?
[12:24] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: i have ssh from another system.. now what to do..
[12:24] <jre2> Dr_Willis: thanks
[12:24] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: should i wait for a crash?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | jre2
[12:24] <code_blocks> Threetimes: i have install mysql-server
[12:24] <lrone-m>  /j #mikrokopter
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: yes wait for the crash
[12:24] <Brazz> grawity: thank you again pal.
[12:24] <danbhfive> code_blocks: probably just a pgrep.  Check if the program is running?
[12:24] <grawity> Brazz: So it might happen that your homedir contains files owned by root, not you, and this often confuses new users (as the files are hard to delete).
[12:24] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: does my another system show the crash report?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: then grab the other system, connect over and run: dmesg | tail
[12:25] <Threetimes> code_blocks: if you already have the packages, you already have lamp and you don't have to install it again.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mohan_: dmesg shows kernel messages since bootup, so there will be some messages you can research in there
[12:25] <jetdebian> May be I haven't asked a good question sorry about that
[12:26] <Brazz> grawity: ahhh ok, so that file that the root would own would be very hard to modify in the other user
[12:26] <Threetimes> I cant compile newmail. http://burningsoda.com/software/newmail/ http://pastebin.com/fd9c6ebd
[12:26] <grawity> Brazz: Yes. I don't know _exactly_ what difference does gksudo make, but it claims to help.
[12:26] <danbhfive> Brazz: it also causes programs to crash if you try to run them non-root later
[12:26] <mohan_> ActionParsnip: oh.. ok..
[12:26] <bazhang> Threetimes, its in the repos, why compile
[12:27] <Brazz> danbhfive, grawity: yeah, thank you very much
[12:27] <mohanohi> hi..
[12:27] <Brazz> grawity: you could not have explained it better, thank you indeed.
[12:27] <younes> howto add ubuntu  for boot.ini
[12:27] <grawity> Brazz: By the way, since you just recently found out about root, you need to know this: Only in Ubuntu root is locked by default. In other distros (even Ubuntu's father Debian), root password is set during install, and an admin uses 'su' to switch to the root account. (sudo is gaining popularity though)
[12:28] <Threetimes> bazhang: that's a really old version. 0.4, while 1.0 is the latest
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> younes: http://bkpavan.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/how-to-boot-linux-using-windows-bootloader-xp/
[12:28] <dragonrigs> aha
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> younes: its much better to use grub
[12:28] <dragonrigs> the
[12:28] <ulaelable> penis penis penis penis penis penis
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> younes: as grub can easily boot both OSs
[12:28] <ulaelable> i am a troll
[12:28] <code_blocks> Threetimes: i have installed php5,mysql,apache2 , do i have to install more to have LAMP ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/252437/
[12:28] <Brazz> grawity: I beleive I'm using root atm
[12:28] <bazhang> ulaelable, wrong channel then
[12:29] <Brazz> grawity: but I wish to create another account so I will be more secure.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> bang and the troll is gone
[12:29] <Threetimes> code_blocks: you currently have lamp. Congratulations.
[12:29] <younes> ActionParsnip, iam install ubuntu from windows (wubi)
[12:29] <grawity> Brazz: In Ubuntu, there should already be at least one account.
[12:29] <Brazz> grawity: even tho I wish to do that I first have to understand it, before just jumping blindly into it.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> younes: i see, then the boot management will be managed as part of the wubi install
[12:29] <Brazz> grawity: so what you're saying is that the account I'm using is not the root?
[12:30] <Brazz> grawity: in the installation only this user was created.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:  its an account that has some 'root' rights   when using sudo. :)
[12:30] <grawity> Brazz: No.
[12:30] <grawity> Brazz: Ubuntu installer created this account for you - the user.
[12:31] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 8.04.3, nm-applet 0.6.6] What might be the reason that '~$ route' does not show any longer a "Destination=link-local" entry?
[12:31] <arand> Is there anything particular to think of when using sudo in pipes? does e.g. "sudo cmd1 | sudo cmd2 >/etc/test" work?
[12:31] <grawity> Brazz: But before that, the installer has silently created all the system accounts (including root). The /etc/passwd file has all of them, if you're interested.
[12:32] <grawity> arand: The pipes are parsed by your shell, not by sudo.
[12:32] <Threetimes> Brazz: there is the root account, used mailly by the system itself, and there is the brazz (or whatver it's name is) account, used by you and most programs you use.
[12:32] <Brazz> Dr_Willis, grawity: ok, so this is the only user I created and it was created during the installation and the root is locked, this that I am using is not the root, but if I wish to access the root I can sudo -i it
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:   basically
[12:32] <grawity> Brazz: Correct.
[12:32] <ddn> hi all
[12:32] <Brazz> Dr_Willis, grawity, Threetimes: Thank you indeed.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Brazz: thats why its called a community ;)
[12:32] <ddn> my system clock is wrong whenever I have no internet connection. how can I solve this?
[12:33] <bullgard4> arand: Why should this pipenot work? I cannot think of any reason. But your way is more dangerous.
[12:33] <Pici> arand: You'd need to do something like: echo "Hello world" | sudo tee /etc/test     sudo does not cross IO redirection operators.
[12:33] <younes> ActionParsnip, now  boot windows only
[12:33] <ziYang>  This is anything  ?
[12:33] <bazhang> ziYang, this is ubuntu support
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> younes: the install procedure of wubi adds a bootloader type thing which will make it look like a dual boot. i dont use wubi personally and think it is a horrible thing
[12:34] <Threetimes> ddn, you mean the clock is right right now, but if you disconnect from the internet, it gets wrong. Immediately or after a reboot?
[12:34] <ddn> Threetimes, hi, not sure, after reboot I think
[12:34] <ziYang>  Narration  Ubuntu?
[12:34] <mazza558> is there a way to show the name of my soundcard other than lspci?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mazza558: sudo lshw -C sound
[12:35] <bazhang> ziYang, no, support channel, not chat for Ubuntu OS
[12:35] <ddn> Threetimes, i already turned internet clock configuration off
[12:35] <mazza558> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:35] <Brazz> grawity, Dr_Willis, Threetimes, ActionParsnip: I'm reading about Ubuntu Security and "Practical Unix & Internet Security" at the moment. More and more I start to understand Linux/Ubuntu. But it is indeed great that I can come here and wash away all the questions I have. Thank you for your help, I must say you have been the most kind.
[12:35] <grawity> ddn: Does the clock become correct when you connect to the internet?
[12:35] <arand> Pici: so I'd only need sudo for the parts of the pipe that needs the permissions then? (in my specific case it's the endpoint with dd output-file)
[12:35] <Threetimes> ddn: Inside your computer, on your motherboard there's a battery which keeps some basic settings for your computer, including time. It might be empty, and your clock gets reset every time you reboot.
[12:35] <ddn> grawity, yes
[12:36] <ddn> Threetimes, yes, didn't think about this, maybe is dying
[12:36] <Pici> arand: yes.
[12:36] <syntax> whats audit do?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Brazz: as you use the system you will learn more than any book
[12:36] <ulaelable> herp
[12:36] <Threetimes> ddn: if there's internet, your system sees the time is wrong and syncronisez it for you, so you don't notice it was wrong.
[12:37] <grawity> arand: This may be a bad suggestion, but still it would be much simpler to open a root shell with 'sudo -s', use what you want, then exit the root shell.
[12:37] <Threetimes> ddn: you might bi in luck, and find a battery for like $5 or less, but usually they last for years (i have one working after 9 years)
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> for who was wanting wubi info  see --->   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide --->  How can I access my Wubi install and repair my install if it won't boot?
[12:38] <code_blocks> how to install cakephp in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:38] <ddn> Threetimes, ok, is a netbook not good news, jeje, will try and see
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !info cakephp
[12:39] <arand> grawity: yes that's what I'm doing currently, I just figured it would be neter with just one command with a sudo in the right place. (but then again... "sudo -i && ... && exit")
[12:39] <ddn> Threetimes, thank you
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  its in the package manager.. just install it like anything else it seems.
[12:39] <Chessguy> i got ubuntu on laptop now, how do i transfer my installed applications over to it?
[12:39] <grawity> arand: You could try sudo bash -c 'foo | bar > somefile'
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Chessguy: what applications do you mean?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Chessguy:  what 'installed applications' from where exactly?
[12:39] <Chessguy> sry i have a desktop now with ubuntu
[12:39] <Chessguy> and i wanted to get all the same apps on this on my lappy
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !clond | Chessguy
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> !clone | Chessguy
[12:40] <Chessguy> awesome
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Chessguy:  be sure you dont acidently install the nvidia drivers when you need ati, and so forth.
[12:40] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: the system has freezed now..
[12:40] <Chessguy> ok
[12:40] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: i downloaded cakephp from it's website extracted it how can i install now ? the version of repository is backdated
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Chessguy:  and your apt/sources.list may need changeing..
[12:40] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: i am unable to type any command in ssh...
[12:40] <grawity> mohan__: Can you still ssh?
[12:40] <arand> grawity: ah, that looks good.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  compile it from source I guess...  check their install docs. I dont use it.
[12:41] <mohan__> grawity: no.. :(
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  or check the PPA repos peraps for a newer packageed version
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: ok then it looks like its a big system wide thing and not just the gui
[12:41] <grawity> arand: If it's an often used command, you might put it in a shell script, and then use sudo to execute _that_.
[12:41] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: oh..
[12:42] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: i was working with blender...
[12:42] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: 3d app
[12:42] <Threetimes> ddn: some laptops (i guess natbooks too) have a little cover on the bottom, and maybe you can replace the battery through there. I'm not really sure, the last time I saw that was like 10 years ago (I don't use laptops)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: ok if you do not use blender, does it hang?
[12:42] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: can you give the link for PPA repository
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | code_blocks
[12:42] <Threetimes> I cant compile newmail. http://burningsoda.com/software/newmail/ http://pastebin.com/fd9c6ebd
[12:42] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: yes,.. while browsing with flash content in it..
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  its not 'a' repository its a personal repo. system :)
[12:43] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: ok, what's the repo  to add in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:43] <arand> grawity: not that common no (it's http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/252442/ btw, *Dangerous command*)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  as i just said.. its not ONE single repo.. its several hundered each  setup by different people.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: you need to look at what you are using around the crash
[12:44] <aeiou> could anyone tell me why i cant ls in this: http://codepad.org/qqQa6Zq4
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  search the PPA system/repos/package lists and see if anyone has a PPA repo set up for what you want
[12:44] <grawity> arand: In that type of pipeline, when it ends with a command (not file), you can simply use 'sudo dd if=......'
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> mohan__: see if there is a pattern, you could also check your ram is healthy from your grub menu, ond fsck your partitions from livecd to make sure they are healthy
[12:44] <grawity> arand: Basically, gunzip -c ./5ubuntu_8gb_usb_backup.dd.gz.* | sudo of=/dev/sdb bs=1024 conv=notrunc
[12:45] <mohan__> ActionParsnip: ok.. will do it..
[12:45] <code_blocks> is there anything like httpd service in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !httpd
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> code_blocks: you can run apache
[12:45] <code_blocks> how can i check if the apache service is stopped or running ?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Theres web servers for Ubuntu code_blocks  if thats what you are asking.
[12:45] <grawity> code_blocks: Yes - Apache2 is the most common.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  check the 'service' command..
[12:46] <arand> grawity: ok, I guessed it might be but was not sure, cheers.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  service --status-all
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> code_blocks: ps -ef | grep apach
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> code_blocks: if its running then it will display
[12:46] <grawity> ActionParsnip: The proccess is httpd, not apache.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> grawity: that too, code_blocks, what s/he said
[12:48] <aeiou> could anyone tell me why i cant ls in this: http://codepad.org/qqQa6Zq4 ? no idea why i cant ive set the dir to +rx for defacto
[12:48] <Threetimes> Dr_Willis: I don't have a service command on 8.04 server
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Threetimes:  and thats my problem? :P
[12:48] <Threetimes> Dr_Willis: no, it's just a question
[12:49] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session "On-Call Review" with cjwatson, seb128, james_w and me in 12m in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:49] <grawity> aeiou: What are the permissions on the _parent_ directory? (/home, that is)
[12:49]  * sluurp will skate a bit
[12:50] <grawity> aeiou: on the second thought, it probably won't matter...
[12:50] <Brazz> Dr_Willis, grawity: How do I know that it is a graphical app so I dont use sudo instead of gksudo?
[12:51] <grawity> Brazz: If you don't know, just use sudo. It shouldn't hurt anything.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:  experience.. you canuse gksudo for a cli app if ya wanted..
[12:52] <E_L_K_> i'm sorry for repeating question, but i had connection issues right atfer i asked it first time: i have a problem with running 9.04 ubuntu on compaq evo n800c notebook with ati mobility radeon 7500 video card. Xorg just hangs after start and no keyboard/mouse works. have tried radeon,ati and vesa drivers, which don't changes anything. can anyone give me tips to solving this issue or at least direction to dig into?
[12:52] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: I suspected so
[12:52] <Brazz> grawity: Thank you
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> sudo should be a symlink to gksu imho
[12:52] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: thank you
[12:52] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Yeah, and what happens if you don't have X? :)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> grawity: panic ;)
[12:53] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Besides, gksudo actually calls sudo to do the execution.
[12:53] <code_blocks> ActionParsnip: is apache running ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/252450/
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> grawity: just trying to stop the sure of sudo for gui
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> so you get an error messge...  if ya guess wrong.. big deal. :)
[12:53] <grawity> ActionParsnip: What _is_ the problem with sudo, anyway?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> grawity: using it with gui apps and trouncing ownerships in ~
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  it can also give an error and just not run the app in some cases..
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  which can confuse you if you are expecting it to work.
[12:54] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Which is easily fixable with chown if the user knows what he's doing. (I'm assuming Brazz does.)
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> 'easily' is the debateable term here. :)
[12:55] <humbolt> is help.ubuntu.com down?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> grawity: true but if it can be avoided initially then thats better, prevention is better than cure
[12:55] <bazhang> humbolt, not here
[12:55] <Threetimes> How do I check Maildir for new messages? Maildir/new/ is empty.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> humbolt: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> humbolt: dead useful site
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  but what if that is the site thats down? :)
[12:56] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Except when it's down.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: http://www.isdownforeveryoneorjustmedownorisitjustme.com
[12:57] <bazhang> !ot
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> HAHAHA
[12:57] <ihr> Is there a page that shows how to build an install image from scratch similar to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[12:57] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately, that one is down too.
[12:57] <humbolt> ActionParsnip: seems like it is just down for me. But why. Everything else is working and DNS does resolve correctly.
[12:57] <aeiou> ok fixed it, needed to run setfacl -m group::r-x defacto
[12:57] <aeiou> thanks all
[12:57] <bazhang> !remaster > ihr
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> humbolt: maybe your provider isplaying with their wires
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> humbolt:  try http://the.ip.address   :)
[12:58] <coens> ya des francais
[12:58] <bazhang> coens, #ubuntu-fr
[12:58] <alkisg> How can I backup my /home to an external usb disk, while keeping *all* symlinks, attributes, owner etc? I'd guess rsync, but could someone give me the command line? I'd hate to backup 200 Gb and find out that I lost symlinks or something...
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> humbolt: http://91.189.94.8
[12:59] <humbolt> ActionParsnip: help.ubuntu.com.	494	IN	A	91.189.90.19
[12:59] <grawity> alkisg: tar cvjf /media/externaldisk/myhome.tgz $HOME, maybe.
[12:59] <grawity> alkisg: That will create a compressed archive, preserving all permissions.
[12:59] <alkisg> grawity: I'd like to be able to directly use the data from the external hd, so i'd prefer rsync to tar
[12:59] <danbhfive> alkisg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> haha ubuntu.com use apache, just got the It Works page with http://91.189.90.19
[12:59] <alkisg> Or cp -a or something...
[12:59] <rek> hi i need to tranfser data with an ethernet cable what program can i use?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> rek: cp
[13:00] <rek> pc to pc
[13:00] <rek> cp?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> !backup | rek
[13:00] <rek> hi i remember u
[13:00] <alkisg> danbhfive: Thanks for "sudo rsync -axS --exclude='/*/.gvfs' /home/. /media/home/." :)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> rek: cp = copy command in *nix
[13:00] <grawity> alkisg: Random probably ineffective suggestion: cd /media/externaldisk; tar cvf - $HOME | tar xf -
[13:00] <danbhfive> alkisg: np  : )
[13:00] <alkisg> !sbackup
[13:00] <alkisg> !cloning
[13:00] <rek> but from a pc in my studio
[13:00] <rek> only music...
[13:01] <rek> with my ethernet
[13:01] <rek> what can i use
[13:01] <code_blocks> how to unrar a file ? what's the command to unrar ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> rek: you can simply copy the files over to a shared folder on the destination PC
[13:01] <grawity> code_blocks: unrar.
[13:01] <bazhang> rek, dont use the enter key as punctuation
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> code_blocks: rar x <rarfile>
[13:01] <rek> is that simplw?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[13:02] <code_blocks> grawity: i tried unrar <filename> in the /var/www directory , permission denied
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Im so lazy now that i discovered the 'unp' command. :)
[13:02] <[AWE]> Hey there
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> rek: yes, just open the share in nautilus, copy the data and click paste in the destination and a copy will fly over for you
[13:02] <code_blocks> grawity: i tried  sudo unrar <filename > failed
[13:02] <grawity> code_blocks: Usually only root can write to /var/www
[13:02] <[AWE]> anyone here know their way round postfix?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  thats a system directroy you need root permissions to do things in there. and its sudo unrar e (or x) i think
[13:03] <rek> ActionParsnip: i connect the cable and i'm set?
[13:03] <grawity> [AWE]: Just ask the question. (If nobody knows - ask ##linux.)
[13:03] <rek> will i see my pc?will i browse it?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  'unrar e whatever.rar'
[13:03] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I think unrar e doesn't preserve relative paths?
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  no idea. never noticed..
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> rek: if its pc to pc then you will need to set IP addresses
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  then use x (from the unrar --help docs) :)
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> rek: if you use a router then you will need a cable between each pc and the router
[13:04] <mhatch> I am a new user of Ubuntu Server (switching over from openSUSE), and I'm running into an issue that kinda bothers me...  In openSUSE, the AHCI driver along with several other storage drivers were compiled as modules that I could change around the order in which they load, but the Ubuntu Server kernel has them compiled directly into the kernel eliminating that capability.
[13:04] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: thank you ,works , sudo unrar e <filename.rar>
[13:04] <mhall119|work> ActionParsnip: I think Ubuntu auto-configures an internal IP if it can't find a DHCP server
[13:04] <mhatch> The reason that's a problem is because my boot drive is IDE and my storage drives are SATA, and I'm used to my IDE drive being sda
[13:04] <mhatch> now it's sde because the SATA drives get loaded first.
[13:05] <mhatch> So, my question is:  Is there a way to change the order in which storage controllers get initialized in the ubuntu server kernel?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> mhall119|work: possibly but if i say it does and it doesnt i look like a fool ;)
[13:05] <grawity> mhall119|work: Yes, it's called "zeroconf" and is done by avahi-autoipd. It's kinda unreliable though. (But it's compatible with the Windows implementation.)
[13:05] <jaunty09> Hello everyone
[13:05] <mhall119|work> grawity: thanks for the clarification
[13:06] <jaunty09> I'm having problem with the time and date on Jaunty Jackalope
[13:06] <kippy> Guys, how can I make ubuntu forget the applications that it has remembered? ( I checked and now unchecked the Remember running applications when logging out, but even now the applications open up)
[13:06] <jaunty09> the time and date wouldn't change
[13:06] <code_blocks> what's the problem here http://paste.ubuntu.com/252455/ , i did this /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[13:06] <jaunty09> I've tried what this website ask you to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[13:06] <MOUD> Hello
[13:06] <danbhfive> kippy: thats a bug, I know the command to clobber/fix, one sec
[13:06] <kippy> jaunty09, click on set system time and then unlock using your password, you should be able to do it
[13:06] <grawity> mhall119|work: But don't forget that zeroconf addresses are explicitly forbidden to be routed (unlike the usual private addresses, 192.168.0.0 and such). So internet connection sharing, for example, is impossible with zeroconf.
[13:07] <jaunty09> activating the NTP and tried to make the system read the local time
[13:07] <nettezzaumana> heya
[13:07] <danbhfive> kippy: I think you can just: rm -R ~/.config/gnome-session
[13:08] <jaunty09> kippy: tried that on the very 1st time
[13:08] <nettezzaumana> would someone provide me please output from: dpkg -S `which udevinfo`
[13:08] <nettezzaumana> on 9.04 ^^
[13:08] <jaunty09> but, when I restart the system, the time and date just go back to error
[13:08] <kippy> alrighty danbhfive, will ctry that
[13:08] <jaunty09> now it's showing Aug 8, 8:05 AM
[13:08] <grawity> jaunty09: Maybe your system's clock battery is dead? (All PCs have a small battery inside)
[13:08] <kippy> jaunty09, how old is your computer? could it be the cmos battery is dying ?
[13:09] <jaunty09> I check on the BIOS motherboard, it was fine
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> jaunty09: how old is the system?
[13:09] <jaunty09> the date on the mobo showing the exact time and date
[13:09] <kippy> jaunty09, how old is the computer?
[13:09] <HACKER10011> d
[13:09] <HACKER10011> d
[13:09] <HACKER10011> d
[13:09] <HACKER10011> d
[13:09] <HACKER10011> d
[13:09] <jaunty09> intel celeron P4
[13:09] <FloodBot2> HACKER10011: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <jaunty09> not too old
[13:09] <kippy> jaunty09, i mean when did you purchase it?
[13:10] <nettezzaumana> would someone provide me please output from: dpkg -S `which udevinfo`
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> if the time is not changeing.. it could be some timezone setting..  or motheboard set to UTC and system set to localtime or some issue like that.
[13:10] <jaunty09> celeron P4 should be somewhere 2003 or 2004
[13:10] <kippy> if it is around 5 year mark then it could be the battery
[13:10] <jaunty09> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> It very well could be the battery.
[13:10] <jaunty09> yes, it what the website say and I've tried all the website tell you to do to fix the problem
[13:10] <jaunty09> but, still error. I'm confused
[13:11] <jaunty09> I've set the NTP and update it and restart. Still error
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> on the pc's i have with dead MB batteries - the time actually resets to somthing 2000, if i let them set unplugged from the wall for an hr or so.
[13:11] <alkisg> Uhmmm... can I *correctly* backup my whole $HOME while logged on in gnome, or should I logout and run e.g. rsync from the console as the user root?
[13:11] <jaunty09> I've set the system to read the 'local' time and still error
[13:11] <grawity> jaunty09: Do you even read our message? Replace the battery.
[13:11] <kippy> jaunty09, that is why your time says in sync while OS is booted, but when the OS is down the battery has to mantain the time which it is not able to do and you see a wrong time next time you boot up. So I would bet about 90% you should replace the battery
[13:12] <jaunty09> if the battery is dead, the mobo time and date should be error right?
[13:12] <jaunty09> but, it's not.. so, I think the battery isn't dead
[13:12] <meisterlumpi> jaunty09: no they reset
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> jaunty09:  mine resets to  like jan 1 2000
[13:12] <doktoreas> hello folks..my remote server stop working and I had to hard reset it. Which log file should I check to see the problem?
[13:12] <jaunty09> yes, that's when the battery is out
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> jaunty09:  then the network services NTP corrects it.
[13:12] <jaunty09> so, mine is still working
[13:12] <mhatch> Just checking if anyone saw my question above regarding how to change the order in which the storage controllers get initialized...  Anyone?
[13:13] <jaunty09> everytime I check the mobo, the time and date showing the right time and date
[13:13] <Bleupomme> hello, I have installed ubuntu jaunty netbook remix on an asus 1005ha. I have problems configuring the microphone. Could someone help?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> !modules
[13:13] <meisterlumpi> jaunty09: since a new battery is like a quater dollar i would try it, don't you think?
[13:14] <coens> yes
[13:14] <jaunty09> meisterlumpi: right, I think that's the last thing I haven't try :)
[13:14] <inneedofhelp> hey i am rather new to ubuntu and linux in general and i am a visually impaired user. i keep encountering problems though mainly with freezes. i think they are due to orca acting up
[13:14] <jaunty09> I'll see to it and if it's fix the problem I'll inform you back
[13:14] <jaunty09> thank you all for the help
[13:15] <petra_> ahoj
[13:15] <inneedofhelp> gotta go
[13:15] <malek> quit
[13:15] <MOUD> When will new version of ubuntu be released? Around October?
[13:15] <mhatch> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, but this problem isn't module related as both storage drivers have been compiled directly into the kernel by the Ubuntu folks
[13:16] <grawity> MOUD: It's version 9.10, so it will be released at 2009-10.
[13:16] <kippy> yes MOUD it will be around OCt 29
[13:16] <code_blocks> can't restart apache2 ,what's the problem here http://paste.ubuntu.com/252455/
[13:17] <MOUD> thanks
[13:17] <code_blocks> how to remove files except one file ? what's the command ?
[13:18] <Pici> code_blocks: Those are both warnings, so the apache server should be starting anyway.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  depends on teh file and what youa re trying to do exactly
[13:19] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: how can i delete all files from a directory except one file ? what's the command ?
[13:19] <lat> When will ubuntu include version 23.1 of GNU Emacs?
[13:19] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: rm -f * ??
[13:19] <kippy> code_blocks that will remove all
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  wben using 'wildcards' always check with the 'echo PATTERN' to see what it will remove exactly
[13:20] <alkisg> code_blocks: man bash => search for GLOBIGNORE
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  or use the 'mv' command to move the files, not delete.. just in case.
[13:20] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: what's the command ?
[13:20] <MadGirl> i think the command is called "installer" damn it
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  depends on the file...... abnd the pattern.
[13:20] <kippy> if your file doesn't has some special attribute and you don't want to write a complicated one liner, i suggest you move the required file to some other place and then remove all and then move the file back
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  ive never noticed a 'remove all but this file' command.
[13:20] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: say the file name is myfile
[13:20] <MOUD> How do I install firefox from bz2? I've already extracted it
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  this is what 'reguler' expressions are all about.
[13:21] <bazhang> MOUD, no need its in the repos
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  or move thefile to keep  somewhere.. delete the rest.. and move it back.
[13:21] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: you are talking about echo PATTERN , what's is it ?
[13:21] <MOUD> bazhang: the problem is that in the repositories it installs FF 3.5.1 but the newest version is 3.5.2 so I downloaded the bz2 file
[13:21] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: how to do this with pattern /
[13:21] <bazhang> !ff35 > MOUD
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  try 'echo *.txt'   or 'echo *.*' and so on to explore the bash use of 'wildcards/regular expressions'
[13:22] <bazhang> MOUD, no its 3.5.2 in repos
[13:22] <lat>  When will Synoptic include version 23.1 of GNU Emacs?
[13:22] <MOUD> bazhang: I see. Thanks
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  its easier to just move the file to keep somewhere.. then delete the rest. and move it back.
[13:23] <bazhang> lat, not for a long while, next release still has 22
[13:24] <jedc> Hi, i have a problem, when i remap my mod key in xmonad.hs i have no mod key, it seems like there is no correlation with what i map it to and my xmodmap :(
[13:24] <jedc> using xmonad on jaunty
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> code_blocks:  if you really want to see how to do a single rm command to remove everything except a specific file/pattern ---->  http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/bash-extended-globbing
[13:25] <Kartagis> hello. even though I have bound Lock Screen to F12, it doesn't work. how could that happen?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  the windowmanager/desktop/compiz may have some other  higher process thats using the key instead.
[13:26] <mohan_> hi..
[13:26] <mohan_> i want to install new driver of nvidia from their website..
[13:26] <jedc> !hi | mohan_
[13:27] <jedc> mohan_, have you tried installing through System->Applications->Hardware Drivers?
[13:27] <mohan_> jedc: yeah i have 180 version of it..
[13:27] <MOUD> I g2g now, see you ppl later
[13:27] <mohan_> jedc: in nvidia website they have released 185 version..
[13:27] <code_blocks> Dr_Willis: thank you
[13:28] <mohan_> jedc: 180 version is giving problems :)
[13:28] <mohan_> jedc:  :(
[13:28] <jedc> thats what im using
[13:28] <erUSUL> !newest | lat
[13:28] <mohan_> jedc: freezing my system.. i am using ubuntu 9.04 64bit..
[13:29] <mohan_> jedc: whats the good workflow for installing newer nvidia drivers..
[13:29] <mhall119|work> mohan_: using Hardware Drivers is the recommended way
[13:29] <mohan_> mhall119|work: but its old..
[13:30] <mhall119|work> yes, but also tested
[13:30] <mohan_> mhall119|work: not working for me.. not a good driver for my card..
[13:30] <mohan_> mhall119|work: some graphics issues :(
[13:30] <mhall119|work> does the new driver exist in backports?
[13:30] <jedc> mohan_, its not recommended, but the envynd-gtk package might work for you, it downloads and installs the newest drivers in theory
[13:30] <userone> can i change the position of grub from (hd0,2) to (hd0,0) by using grub shell and the commands, sudo grub>root (hd0,0)>setup (hd0,0)>exit?
[13:30] <jedc> mohan_, envyng-gtk my bad
[13:31] <mohan_> jedc: not tryed..
[13:31] <mohan_> jedc: it installs the same old one..
[13:31] <jedc> oh
[13:31] <rek> ActionParsnip1: i'm goin' to link them
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> userone:   position? Normally grub is installed to the MBR of the hard disk anyway.   i though the command would be setup (hd0)
[13:32] <jedc> mohan_, i found this thread, it might be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> userone:  you may want to read up on the grub docs at the grub homepage.  Grub is the kind of tool - that its worth reading/learning well.
[13:32] <rek> what will i see in nautilus?
[13:32] <mohan_> jedc: ok.. thanx.. :)
[13:34] <grzesiek> i got little question, how to turn off beep sound from pc [not from speakers] after install ?
[13:34] <meglo> cut the cord
[13:34] <rek> hi
[13:34] <rek> help
[13:34] <userone> Dr_Willis: my ubuntu boots up fine but when i try to boot vista it says 'missing bootmgr'. vista should not need a bootmgr if grub is handling the boot, so i think the problem is that grub is on (hd0,2), wheras vista is on (hd0,0). If i can move grub to (hd0,0) it should fix the vista boot problem?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> grzesiek:  theres some forum thereads on that. thats the 'pc speaker' (on the mb sort of thing) normal way is to blacklist the pcspkr module (i think)
[13:35] <grzesiek> k will check after update, thanks
[13:35] <mhall119|work> grzesiek: there is a kernel module that runs the system speaker, you'll need to remove it and blacklist it
[13:35] <grzesiek> k ty
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> userone:  no idea on that one. the normal installer puts grub ont he MBR of the hard drive.. dont confuse  (hd0,0) with (hd0)  one is the drive.. other is a partition on the drive.
[13:36] <mhall119|work> grzesiek: pcspkr is the module (on my 9.04 install at least)
[13:36] <mhall119|work> sudo rmmod pcspkr
[13:36] <grzesiek> ye i got too 9.04
[13:36] <grzesiek> k will try, sec
[13:37] <grzesiek> mhall119|work it works, ty much
[13:37] <mhall119|work> grzesiek: it'll be re-installed when you reboot, so you'll have to add it to the blacklist file
[13:37] <CrocoJet> what is the meaning "Backports PPA" ?
[13:38] <neglesaks> PPA =  Personal Packake Archive
[13:38] <CrocoJet> neglesaks, thanks
[13:38] <Halitech> CrocoJet, Backports are newer programs that have been setup to work in older version of Ubuntu
[13:38] <indus> CrocoJet: its software which has been backported to a previous version of ubuntu
[13:38] <neglesaks> yw
[13:38] <bazhang> !backports > CrocoJet
[13:39] <grzesiek> where is blacklist file placed ?
[13:39] <neglesaks> PPA's are software repositories on launchpad.net (and other places)
[13:39] <mhall119|work> grzesiek: add "blacklist pcspkr" (without quotes) to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:39] <userone> Dr_Willis: I installed vista first, so that would have put the mbr on the first partition of the first drive (hd0,0). I then installed ubuntu, which should have written grub to the mbr (hd0,0), but instead grub is on (hd0,2) which is the third partition of the first drive. the second partition is linux swap.
[13:39] <indus> CrocoJet: for example,firefox3.5 when available for hardy 8.04 will bea backport
[13:39] <indus> grzesiek: /etc/modprobe.d/blackkist.conf
[13:39] <CrocoJet> well .. thanks a lot for all ... interesting !
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> userone:  the installer should of put grub in the mbr of (hd0)   hd0,0 is NOT NOT NOT the 'mbr'
[13:40] <indus> CrocoJet: remember,a PPA is a personal package and not supported by ubuntu,use them at your own risk
[13:40] <CrocoJet> indus, ok
[13:40] <indus> Dr_Willis: grub can be installed on any partition i believe
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> indus:  yes.. but thats not what hes saying....
[13:40] <combo> hello, does anyone of You uses HP All-in-one product? I have serious problem with my brand new HP DeskJet F4210.. can't install it correctly.. Can someone help, please?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> userone:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:41] <pcbuilder97> is ubuntu 9.10 karmic  in beta yet  or is it still in alpha??
[13:41] <indus> Dr_Willis: wokay
[13:41] <indus> pcbuilder97: its in aplha 3
[13:41] <pcbuilder97> oh ok
[13:42] <indus> pcbuilder97: willl be alpha 4 in a few days
[13:42] <Bloe> hi
[13:42] <indus> hi
[13:42] <pcbuilder97> ok kool
[13:43] <Bloe> how are you
[13:43] <pcbuilder97> how many alpha stages are thare going to be?
[13:43] <rek_> ActionParsnip1:
[13:43] <indus> Bloe: good ,do u have an ubuntu question
[13:43] <indus> pcbuilder97: 5
[13:43] <rek_> i need to connect them
[13:43] <indus> pcbuilder97: 6 actually
[13:43] <rek_> how can i connect the 2 pc
[13:43] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis, it stopped working all of a sudden.
[13:43] <bazhang> pcbuilder97, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[13:43] <Bloe> well a had one
[13:43] <indus> pcbuilder97: but i think 6 is beta probably
[13:43] <rek_> bazhang:  i use an ethernet cable
[13:43] <ajish> hey i am setting up vpn in my ubuntu after gooling still couldn't find usefull info
[13:44] <userone> Dr_Willis: yes, that is the default given by ubuntu installation (hd0), but somehow grub is on the root partition. the link you gave me clearly explains that 'The method shown above puts GRUB back on the MBR (master boot record) of the hard drive instead of in the root partition'.
[13:44] <Bloe> for a backup cd
[13:44] <rek_> then whT  can i do?
[13:44] <pcbuilder97> yeh i just had lots of hardware bugs with alpha two  i wanted to wait till beta before i tried it agin
[13:44] <indus> !vpn
[13:44] <indus> !vpn | ajish
[13:44] <bazhang> indus, pcbuilder97 please take this to #ubuntu+1
[13:44] <grzesiek> brb reboot
[13:45] <indus> bazhang: i dropped it already
[13:45] <ajish> how to find weather it is ipx or not?
[13:45] <Bloe> a CD of my system and then on another computer with my settings
[13:45] <datacrusher> hi everyone! iv burned a dvd with vista file explorer, just dragging and so, and i cant open it on ubuntu, is there a workarround?
[13:45] <ajish> I mean my office network is IPX or not?
[13:45] <bazhang> Bloe, what kind of cd? system restore? local repository?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> datacrusher:  dragged' what exactly to the dvd?  somefilename.iso ? or some other files?
[13:45] <userone> Dr_Willis: I just wanted to know how to 'move' grub because i didn't know how grub was put on the root partition during a default install?
[13:46] <rek_> i need to browse the other pc with the ethernet cable
[13:46] <indus> Bloe: can u ask again in 1 line
[13:46] <rek_> how cN I DO THAT?
[13:46] <indus> userone: well hmm open a terminal and enter sudo grub
[13:46] <Bloe> i need a backup cd of my system to instal it on an another computer
[13:46] <indus> userone: setup (hdx,y) will move it
[13:46] <bazhang> Bloe, a clone then?
[13:47] <helper> hey need help /usr/bin/find /home/kad -name '*.bz2' -ctime +24 => this allow to check *.bz2 if it's modified after 24 hours? or am i wrong ?
[13:47] <felipe__> hI
[13:47] <ajish> any vpn experts here?
[13:47] <userone> Dr_Willis: thanks anyway for your help, and the link too
[13:47] <Bloe> yes
[13:47] <userone> indus: i see....thanks
[13:47] <leaf-sheep> Does anybody want to ls -al their home directory? I currently have permission 700 on all my file/folders in my home directory.
[13:47] <bazhang> Bloe,  a single cd wont backup your whole system
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> userone:  you dont really move it. You install it where you want it to be. Default install on desktop is to go to hd0. not hd0,0   Still not sure if any of this will help your windows issue.
[13:47] <indus> userone: also run update-grub just to make sure
[13:47] <Bloe> DVD
[13:48] <Vanion> Having trouble with Transmission torrent client , don't know how to allow the program to download to a certain folder...
[13:48] <Halitech> Bloe, remastersys
[13:48] <Bloe> just .home
[13:48]  * Dr_Willis waits for the fun that will come from the update to the next generation of grub. :)
[13:48] <indus> Dr_Willis: whats the problem userone having
[13:48] <Bloe> its take a log time
[13:48] <krishna_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252480/ I get this whenever i try to apt-get something... i havent added a xubuntu package cd to software sources.....  how to eradicate this and make it to use internet to get packages ??
[13:48] <Bloe> for the backup
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> indus:  i forget. :)  was so long ago.. windows not booting i think.
[13:48] <Bloe> 41%
[13:48] <indus> Dr_Willis: thats a windows issue, he will need to repair windows with rescue cd
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> indus:  thats what i was thinking.. but it wasent a ntldr missing error.. was some other message.
[13:49] <userone> indus: my ubuntu boots up fine but when i try to boot vista it says 'missing bootmgr'. vista should not need a bootmgr if grub is handling the boot, so i think the problem is that grub is on (hd0,2), wheras vista is on (hd0,0). If i can move grub to (hd0,0) it should fix the vista boot problem?
[13:49] <datacrusher> Dr_Willis, many files
[13:49] <Halitech> krishna_, gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the cd
[13:49] <indus> Dr_Willis: then that will destroy the mbr ubuntu, then he will come baclk here then we will help again :)
[13:49] <indus> userone: there are a few stages in the boot process
[13:49] <Bloe> can sombody Dutch
[13:49] <Pici> !nl | Bloe
[13:49] <Halitech> !de | Bloe
[13:50] <userone> indus: i have already modified menu.lst file to include vista at root (hd0,0)
[13:50] <Halitech> sorry, thats german :(
[13:50] <Bloe> koffie ook
[13:50] <Bloe> lekker
[13:50] <Bloe> :)
[13:50] <indus> userone: the motherboard bios first passes control to boot loader then passes it on to individual os'
[13:50] <krishna_> Halitech, that command gave no action.. what is mousepad ?
[13:51] <indus> userone: its not grub which boots ubuntu ,its the initrd
[13:51] <indus> userone:nvm
[13:51] <Halitech> krishna_, its the text editor in xubuntu
[13:51] <krishna_> Halitech, i use ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[13:51] <userone> indus: i dont want to use a windows rescue this, as this will certainly mess up more things that it will fix!!
[13:51] <indus> userone: do u have a vista rescue disk? iam assuming u see the grub menu first
[13:51] <krishna_> Halitech,  i replaced it with gedit. now a what to edit ??
[13:51] <Halitech> krishna_, ok, then why is it asking for a xubuntu cd? ok, try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:52] <indus> userone: dont worry,after things get messed up, use a live cd to boot , then come here,ill help u with grub
[13:52] <krishna_> Halitech, "why is it"  thats what i dont know
[13:52] <krishna_> Halitech, yes.. gedit is on.. what to modify ?
[13:52] <Halitech> krishna_, you should see a line about the xubuntu cd, put a # in front of it
[13:52] <indus> userone: or best,write down these steps to rescue urself
[13:52] <krishna_> Halitech, ok
[13:52] <Halitech> krishna_, did you originally install using the xubuntu cd?
[13:52] <indus> userone: ok can u tell me what is the output of find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:53] <userone> indus: i am chatting from a second laptop, so i can still follow your commands..
[13:53] <indus> k good
[13:53] <indus> userone: repair it then vista
[13:53] <krishna_> Halitech, NO. i have ubuntu 9.04 jaunty.... my sister inserted the xubuntu cd 8.10 yesterday... when synaptic asked.. she added it... but even after its ejected.. it kept on saying "enter xubu cd and press enter"
[13:53] <krishna_> Halitech, yea! thanks.. apt0get is using internet... thanks
[13:53] <indus> userone: ok wait
[13:53] <indus> userone: first of all, state your problem again
[13:54] <Bloe> how works virtual box ???
[13:54] <Halitech> krishna_, ok, her putting the cd in and her saying yes is probably what happened, glad to hear its working now
[13:54] <rski> Bloe: read on virtualbox.org
[13:54] <userone> indus: however, if i follow this link given by Dr_Willis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows it should put grub in the mbr, and with menu.lst modified to boot vista, all should be fixed?
[13:54] <nnull> Bloe, or youtube it, and watch someone use/install it..
[13:54] <Bloe> i have some troubles
[13:55] <indus> userone: hello? i dont have much time
[13:55] <krishna_> Halitech, but .. why it didnt auto-remove the line from sources when its ejected ?
[13:55] <helper> how i can connect via xhost?
[13:55] <dAnon> does someone know how to get flashplayer to perform good under Opera?
[13:55] <indus> userone: yes its correct link
[13:55] <Halitech> krishna_, because it doesn't have the ability to remove, only add
[13:55] <indus> userone: no need to modify menu.lst
[13:55] <Bloe> i can run youtube for this videos i need totem
[13:55] <lat> ubottu, thanks for the feedback.
[13:55] <Bloe> on youtube its a black screen
[13:55] <userone> indus: wait  1 minute..i type slowly
[13:56] <indus> userone: why did u modify?
[13:56] <Bloe> it start when i instal quick time
[13:56] <userone> indus: ok..let me explain...wait 1 minute :-)
[13:56] <krishna_> Halitech, then creators must think of auto-remove the line :P :D
[13:56] <yesitisjustme> i got a usb to ide adapter but dvdrom only gets detected when a OS is present.
[13:57] <underguiz> ok, so I have an ubuntu 8.10 installation here and i want to tell a script to come up on boot after mysql
[13:57] <underguiz> how can I do it?
[13:57] <kp> hi, which is the best audio software for ubuntu
[13:57] <yesitisjustme> Is it possible for usb to ide dvdrom to be detected without a OS like a regular dvdrom?
[13:57] <indus> kp what do u mean best
[13:57] <dAnon> does someone know how to get flashplayer to perform good under Opera?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> yesitisjustme:  you mean like a regular 'usb external optical drive' ?
[13:58] <indus> kp for audio player u have rhythmbox
[13:58] <indus> kp also banshee is fine
[13:58] <krishna_> can this be used to restore grub after  i format C:\ ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Restoring%20GRUB  i.e not the first method in ppage.. nbut this one ?
[13:58] <indus> kp but you will need to install it
[13:58] <nnull> dAnon, may have more luck posting a thread on ubuntu forums with that one.
[13:58] <iceroot> !grub | krishna_
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> krishna_:  'formating c:' wont remove the MBR  (the grub menu)
[13:58] <kp> ok
[13:58] <kp> indus,
[13:58] <kp> ok
[13:58] <mhall119|work> dAnon: have you asked Opera?
[13:59] <krishna_> iceroot, i got that link only from !grub... my question was different//
[13:59] <krishna_> Dr_Willis, i meant "reinstallng windows xp"
[13:59] <indus> krishna_: yes Dr_Willis is right, mbr is on the Hard disk, it just wont boot windows thats all
[13:59] <indus> listen to the doctor
[13:59] <kp> indus, best in terms of all available plugins
[13:59] <iceroot> krishna_: there is a info about restoring grub
[13:59] <bazhang> kp, try some out, there is no best
[14:00] <indus> janisoza1r: hi
[14:00] <root> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:00] <krishna_> indus, when i reinstall windows xp into C:\ .. wont it fire the Grub and use its own bootloader ?
[14:00] <root> ;]
[14:00] <kp> ok
[14:00] <iceroot> root: dont do irc as root :)
[14:00] <indus> krishna_: yes when you install windows , yes it will
[14:00] <krishna_> indus, yes..
[14:00] <indus> kp: try a few then decide
[14:00] <heatmzzr> How do you start ubuntu without gui. but have the option to start it with startx or something????????
[14:00] <indus> krishna_: restoring grub is simple
[14:00] <indus> krishna_: live cd should be nearby so u can boot
[14:01] <yesitisjustme> no like a regular internal dvd rom
[14:01] <Guest49378> iceroot, relax my friend :)
[14:01] <CarlFK> heatmzzr: grub menu,  (recovery)
[14:01] <krishna_> indus, then my question is whether to use the first method stated in that page ////  or using "preserving windows bootloader" topic
[14:01] <kp> indus, thats sounds cool
[14:01] <Sevdalin> :P
[14:01] <bazhang> heatmzzr, permanently?
[14:01] <krishna_> indus, why cant the ubuntu live cd contain something like "restore grub" option in "system" ?
[14:01] <kp> thanks will try as you suggest
[14:01] <heatmzzr> bazhang: yeah
[14:01] <indus> kp yeah try deffault music player, try banshee , try amarok too
[14:01] <indus> !music
[14:01] <userone> indus: i used vista to partition the hdd into 3 partitions. i installed vista on p1. i then installed ubuntu  (swap on p2, linux on p3). the boot menu let me boot into ubuntu just fine, but there was no entry for vista. so i followed the threads to modofy menu.lst to include an entry for vista at root (hd0,0). this didnt work so i used a live cd to remodify menu.lst but this 'crashed' everything (nothing would boot) and so i reinstalled ubun
[14:02] <RorZa> Hello I am scp ing a file from my local to my Slicehost server
[14:02] <bazhang> heatmzzr, this is an existing install or a proposed one
[14:02] <RorZa> but I cannot locate the file
[14:02] <gartral> krishna_: it does, it's called run "sudo grub hd0,0"
[14:02] <indus> userone: aah ok ,there is a software called os-prober in synaptic install it
[14:02] <RorZa> How ccan I search for aa file in Ubuntu from command line
[14:02] <heatmzzr> bazhang: existing... probably not worth it...
[14:02] <yesitisjustme> i want it to act like a regular internal dvdrom so it will detect dvdrom without OS
[14:02] <gartral> RorZa: locate
[14:03] <indus> userone: i think its there
[14:03] <indus> userone: search
[14:03] <Sevdalin> thanks for sharing;]
[14:03] <CarlFK> RorZa: find / -name "afile"
[14:03] <RorZa> gartral:  whats the full syntax
[14:03] <krishna_> gartral, my doubt is that whether to use the "overwriting windows bootloader"  or to use "preserve windows bootloader" in that help page
[14:03] <gartral> yesitisjustme: if your BIOS supports USB media, you shouldn't have a prob
[14:03] <userone> indus: ok, i only have an internet connection on this second laptop, so if you give me your commands i will switch the usb modem to the other laptop and follow them later
[14:03] <Link> good morning :)
[14:04] <gartral> RorZa: locate <filename>
[14:04] <yesitisjustme> ok
[14:04] <CarlFK> gartral: "locate can never report files created  after  the  most  recent        update of the relevant database."
[14:04] <indus> userone: did u correctly put the entries in menu.lst
[14:04] <kp> indus, will do that
[14:04] <RorZa> I get this with locate
[14:04] <RorZa> -bash: locate: command not found
[14:05] <gartral> CarlFK: might I ask where you get that info? on ETX4 the database is never out of date
[14:05] <CarlFK> RorZa: use fine, loate won't work for that
[14:05] <CarlFK> gartral: man locate
[14:05] <userone> indus: yes..there is a sample given within menu.lst which i copied and pasted to the bottom of menu.lst and uncommented
[14:05] <rek_> i need to connect two pc with an ethernet cable
[14:05] <RorZa> fine ?
[14:05] <mhall119|work> rek_: you'll need a crossover cable
[14:05] <CarlFK> RorZa: er, use find
[14:05] <krishna_> gartral, can you understand my ?  because i want to reinstall xp :( tomorrow
[14:06] <userone> indus: so ubuntu boots automatically (which is what i want) and the option for vista is last
[14:06] <RorZa> this     find / -name comming.jpg
[14:06] <CarlFK> gartral: the ext4 driver updates the locate db?
[14:06] <indus> userone: did u specify where vista is?
[14:06] <indus> userone: root hd0,0 etc
[14:06] <dar_> i have a very strange problem on Jaunty, with no reason in KDE sometimes when i click on a window the moving cursor appears but i can't write or scroll in the window i can only move it! and if i can write in it like in a KOnsole the keys i pressed are not working correctly if i want that bullshit to change i have to press Ctrl+Alt and it start working normally for perhaps 5 minutes and the problem comes again
[14:06] <RorZa> I get a bonch of out put like this
[14:06] <RorZa> find: `/etc/ssl/private': Permission denied
[14:06] <RorZa> find: `/lost+found': Permission denied
[14:06] <RorZa> find: `/var/log/mysql': Permission denied
[14:06] <FloodBot2> RorZa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <userone> indus: yes
[14:06] <RorZa> lol sorry
[14:06] <gartral> CarlFK: i can create 10 files on my desktop, and locate finds them instantly.. so somehow, the locate DB is allways up to date
[14:06] <user_> how can i set ip for etho
[14:06] <indus> userone: thats just a sample,it doesnt have correct locations
[14:07] <Bloe>  ... bey ...
[14:07] <bazhang> user_, ifconfig? connecting via console?
[14:07] <mhall119|work> RorZa: run it as sudo
[14:07] <bazhang> user_, sudo dhclient eth0
[14:08] <indus> userone: right now the message from vista is 'missing bootldr"?
[14:08] <userone> indus: when i did fdisk -l it gives hpfs/ntfs as /dev/sda1
[14:08] <RorZa> bazhang: it returns nothing
[14:08] <krishna_> indus, any help ?
[14:08] <krishna_> plz
[14:08] <userone> indus: yes..missing bootmgr
[14:08] <CarlFK> gartral: locate foobar && locate foobar - nothing.  mount.. /dev/sdc3 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime)
[14:08] <bazhang> RorZa, which returns nothing
[14:08] <RorZa> is that mean the scp didt work ?
[14:08] <CarlFK> gartral: er... touch foobar...
[14:08] <RorZa> find with sudo
[14:08] <userone> indus: i moved the bootable flag to sda1
[14:09] <CarlFK> bazhang: what is your scp command?
[14:09] <gartral> CarlFK: strange, then again, i have a franken-puter... soooo
[14:09] <js> if I'm going to do a fresh install, does it make sense to install 9.10 alpha3 and update to 9.10 once it's out or does it make more sense to install 9.04 and update to 9.10 later? I don't have any probem with running alpha software. just curious about the update process.
[14:10] <CarlFK> gartral: does touch foobar && locate foobar find it?
[14:10] <RorZa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252493/    of course the ip is where I am sending it to
[14:10] <bazhang> scp filename user@host:filename CarlFK ?
[14:10] <CarlFK> RorZa: you forgot the :
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> js:  dont have a 'problem' unless the software has a killer problem. :)
[14:10] <gartral> CarlFK: no, but ive yet too create a foobar on my machine
[14:10] <user_> ifconfig resulted nos of connections but how set ip
[14:11] <Pompos> just out of curiosity: is there a log of this channel?
[14:11] <CarlFK> bazhang: you have a file on your local box called tseghuy@ip_add
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> !log | Pompos
[14:11] <js> Dr_Willis: then I can still fetch the newest tarball and compile it myself ;)
[14:11] <CarlFK> gartral: touch created the file
[14:11] <Pompos> thanks
[14:11] <RorZa> CarlFK: do I need that ?
[14:11] <js> it's just if an update process from 9.10 alpha3 to 9.10 final is planned what I want to know
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> js:  i just do clean installs with every new release. seems tobe less problems that way
[14:11] <zhxk`> hello, how to sepcify dns address ?
[14:11] <CarlFK> RorZa:  scp Desktop/comming.jpg tseghuy@ip_add:
[14:11] <bazhang> js #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[14:12] <js> Dr_Willis: you tell that a guy who used the same install for 7 years ;)
[14:12] <js> with manually compiling all the stuff to update it ;)
[14:12] <CrocoJet> how can I list files via aptitude command of specific server (in my case, jaunty-backports) ?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> js:  yes you have always been able to upgrade from the alphass to beta to final. BUT theres always the potential for issues with upgrading
[14:12] <js> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[14:12] <js> going with 9.10 alpha3 then :)
[14:12] <user_> where is that file located
[14:12] <RorZa> CarlFK: I get connectioni refused with that
[14:12] <gartral> CarlFK: after i changed the path of touch too ./Desktop/foobar, yes, locate found it emediately
[14:12] <DavidP> anyone here know how to set up a page file? i got a brand new pc that i want to set up Win7 and Ubuntu on
[14:12] <js> oh, how well does ubuntu 64 work these days?
[14:12] <js> finally want to make the switch when I have to reinstall anyway
[14:13] <Link> zhxk`: you can right click on the ethernet icon (top right) and select edit connections. change settings to manual to insert ip / dns info
[14:13] <user_> how to set a ip can u tell me the path
[14:13] <DavidP87> anyone here know how to set up a page file partition? i got a brand new pc/hard drive that i want to set up Win7 and Ubuntu on
[14:13] <revygttam> When i ping my server by its hostname it is not returning, it is mapping to the wrong IP.  When i ping by the IP it works fine, how can i fix that?
[14:13] <CarlFK> RorZa: paste the real command and the error
[14:13] <zhxk`> Link:im on cli
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  you mean a 'swap' partition for linux? :) theres guides on doing that/adding more.
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> !swap
[14:14] <Link> zhxk`: Sorry mate, can't help you there :( i'm still learning.
[14:14] <Halitech> zhxk`, the config file is at /etc/network/interfaces
[14:14] <CarlFK> gartral: touch /home/carl/Desktop/foobar && locate foobar - still nothing.  are you sure you didn't touch a file you already had?
[14:14] <DavidP87> Dr_Willis, if i set up linux first and use "swap" partition, then i install win7, will i need a page file for win7 or the swap partition (which will be at the end of all my partition) be good enough???
[14:14] <RorZa> CarlFK:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/252495/
[14:14] <sipior> revygttam: correct the domain name service record for the machine of interest.
[14:14] <user_> am very tired with ubuntu i can not even set static ip
[14:14] <chessnutmushroom> how do i install java for firefox3 ?
[14:14] <js> DavidP87: install windows first
[14:14] <js> it will kill your mbr otherwise
[14:14] <Halitech> zhxk`, to edit it you can use vim, vi, emacs, or nano ....  sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[14:14] <chessnutmushroom> the plugins are not working in the addon section.
[14:14] <DavidP87> mbr???
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  widnows does not in any way shape or form. know what to do with a Linux swap 'parttiion' :)
[14:15] <Link> would someone be able to assist me in installing my graphic card drivers?  Matrox G450 PCI? I'm a little lost.
[14:15] <DavidP87> Dr_Willis do u recommend installing win7 RC first?
[14:15] <revygttam> sipior: im afriad im not too sure how to go about that, is it a specific file that I need to edit?
[14:15] <js> DavidP87: you could also use a swap file, btw
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  so yes.. windows will need its own swap file.. (and tons more of it - then linux ever needs)
[14:15] <user_> what is the easy way to set static ip
[14:15] <CarlFK> RorZa: Ip_add needs to be the IP of your slice
[14:15] <js> user_: ifconfig eth0 inet 1.2.3.4
[14:15] <zhxk`> Halitech:yes i can, but dunno what to put to
[14:15] <ubuntu_tom> Hi everybody, I have difficulties installing ubuntu. I'm currently running the live cd. But the partition editor does not show any partition on my hard drive. But under places in the menu they are all there.
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  given my experience with Window7 i reccomend taking the Win7 cd and making a coster out of it for your sodapop.
[14:15] <DavidP87> hhhmmm
[14:15] <sipior> revygttam: well, how did you get it to map to the (incorrect) ip address? is this a machine on a home network?
[14:15] <Halitech> user_, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  always install windows first.. then linux. :) thats a given
[14:15] <RorZa> CarlFK: yes I have provided that
[14:16] <DavidP87> so if im gonna install windows first, should i use vista or just use win7 RC???
[14:16] <CarlFK> RorZa: provided how?
[14:16] <indus> userone: then you need to repair it
[14:16] <indus> userone: ok but thats just a flag, i dont think it really works
[14:16] <indus> userone: not sure
[14:16] <indus> userone: can u search for os-prober?
[14:16] <Halitech> zhxk`, you need to change dhcp to auto and then add all the settings on seperate lines for what you want
[14:16] <FloodBot2> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:16] <indus> !info os-prober
[14:16] <RorZa> CarlFK: can set the option to use different port ?
[14:16] <indus> !info os-prober
[14:16] <Link> Davidf88, i've seen some posts via google with users having success with win 7 and ubuntu as well
[14:16] <revygttam> sipior: this is a home network, i had to switch routers and at one point it assigned this mapped IP to this computer which looks like the one it is trying to hit.
[14:16] <indus> oh my network mess
[14:17] <DavidP87> Dr_Willis and js im not sure if it is a good idea to install Win7 RC is its gonna force me to buy it in a few months, when i have vista cd now..
[14:17] <CarlFK> RorZa: you need to use the port ssh is on.  can you ssh to the slice?
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  i did have windows7 and ubuntu both dualbooting here fine.  normal grub menu settings for other windows worked fine for win7
[14:17] <zhxk`> Halitech:no dhcp, i know gateway adress, and dns adress as well
[14:17] <RorZa> its on port  3000
[14:17] <revygttam> sipior: is it possible to flush the dns like on windows sytems?
[14:17] <userone> indus: what does os-prober do?
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  i dont plan on using win7 - i reinstalled vista on my 'game box'
[14:18] <sipior> revygttam: is it your intention to access this machine by its domain name from outside your home network?
[14:18] <grawity> revygttam: If you run nscd -- sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[14:18] <DavidP87> so vista > win 7 you reckon Dr_Willis??
[14:18] <grawity> revygttam: If you don't, there's probably no cache.
[14:18] <CarlFK> RorZa: man scp scp [-1246BCpqrv] [-c cipher] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file]          [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port
[14:18] <Halitech> zhxk`, you would need to add ip address, default gateway, network mask, dns addresses for sure, can't think of anything else at the moment
[14:18] <grawity> DavidP87: I would suggest waiting for Win 7 to be out.
[14:18] <gartral> CarlFK: rather sure
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  vista is paid for... :) win7 is not.. and im too cheap to pay MS any more blood money
[14:18] <userone> indus: if you explain, i will then transfer the usb modem to the other laptop and try
[14:18] <user_> ifconfig eth0 inet 1.1.1.1 says permission denied
[14:18] <zhxk`> Halitech:yes i know all of them
[14:19] <DavidP87> grawity i cant... ive got a new pc sitting here, need OS installed, i cant just wait for Win7 to be out and leave it blank
[14:19] <revygttam> sipior: not necessarily, but i do call it by hostname sometimes within the network thats why i want to fix it.
[14:19] <gartral> Dr_Willis: you relise that yur win7 install is going to lock itself and ask you for money after they pull the beta, right?
[14:19] <Halitech> zhxk`, ok, and then change dhcp to static ... then either reboot or restart the network and it *should* work
[14:19] <Halitech> DavidP87, so grab the Win7 rc, its free and will work until June 2010
[14:19] <gartral> DavidP87: can't you put Ubuntu onto it?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  its not going to.. since i no longer have a Win7 install..  :)   it got shut down when they closed the earlier testing.. so i decided to put vista back on.
[14:20] <sipior> revygttam: in that case, easier to add it to the file "/etc/hosts" file on all the machines you care about. then you can use the domain name freely on your network.
[14:20] <Halitech> well, work as well as any windows OS works
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  so i have no win7 on any machines now.
[14:20] <zhxk`> Halitech:i want save them permanent
[14:20] <DavidP87> gartral i can put ubuntu, what im saying is, if im bual booting, and i want to use windows + ubuntu, the given is that u install win before linux
[14:20] <zhxk`> ly
[14:20] <gartral> Dr_Willis: i have yet to own a machine that ran Vista, and plan on keeping it that way till MS goes down the drain
[14:20] <revygttam> sipior: Okay, now will that work as well if down the road i need to reach it by domain name?
[14:21] <Halitech> zhxk`, if you make the changes and save the file it will be permanent
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  you can dual boot win7 and ubuntu just fine.
[14:21] <RorZa> CarlFK: surly there's something wrong ...is there aother way of exporting the file ?
[14:21] <user_> ifconfig says permission denied
[14:21] <gartral> DavidP87: you can restore grub after a win install..
[14:21] <mckinnon81> user_, you need to be root to run ifconfig, run it as 'sudo ifconfig'
[14:21] <sipior> revygttam: well, you'd be using the domain name now...did you mean from outside your network? do you own the domain that you are using?
[14:22] <gartral> DavidP87: also, you dont *have* too install an OS, you can run Ubunt as a live cd..
[14:22] <zhxk`> Halitech:where to to save, which file to modify for ip?
[14:22] <Cynope> Is there a "Beta" repository for Ubuntu? Or do I need to compile PHP manually in order to have a version higher than 5.2.6?
[14:22] <CarlFK> RorZa: best to figure out why you can't scp.  paste the command; message here (no need for the pastebin if it is only one line)
[14:22] <revygttam> sipior: i believe that i misunderstood your previous comment so you can disreguard that question.  thanks for your help.
[14:22] <Halitech> zhxk`, the /etc/network/interfaces file
[14:22] <gartral> Cynope: your best bet is too find an apropiate PPA
[14:22] <sipior> revygttam: no trouble
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Cynope:  theres the 'ppa' user repositories to check out...
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | Cynope
[14:22] <Cynope> Thanks alot gartral ad Dr_Willis :)
[14:23] <Cynope> s/ad/and
[14:23] <zhxk`> Halitech:there are no interfaces file there, but interfaces~
[14:23] <gartral> Cynope: if you really really REALLY want to compile yourself, juyst make sure you satisfy your dependencies first
[14:23] <faisal-alsubaie> فية احد عربي هنا ؟
[14:23] <CarlFK> I am adding some stuff to the live cd using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization - if all I do is apt-get upgrade, the .iso is 150meg bigger.  I can remove a few things like openoffice, 150meg seems large
[14:23] <bazhang> !sa | faisal-alsubaie
[14:24] <Cynope> gartral: I compiled it once 2~3 months ago, then reverted back to repos [ Since I wasn't familiar with "checkinstall" ], So I guess Compiling it would be no problem, I just was looking for a faster way :)
[14:25] <gartral> Cynope: yea, i hear that
[14:25] <DavidP87> alright so final choice guys, Win7 + Ubuntu partion with the page file/swap file partition go with both and then a main partition for data .. OR Vista + Ubuntu with page file/swap file and data, which is it, i want to know the con's of win7 btw, i know the pro is awesomely fast
[14:25] <DavidP87> i sorta wanna start using my new pc i just made lol
[14:25] <Halitech> zhxk`, there should be
[14:26] <CarlFK> and thats 150mb of compressed squash fs - wondering if there some cleanup I can do to get rid of stuff that was replaced
[14:26] <zhxk`>  Halitech:honestly no
[14:26] <Pici> DavidP87: ##windows would be the more appropriate place to ask about Windows, we can't really help with that part of your question.
[14:26] <DavidP87> Pici thanks
[14:26] <Halitech> DavidP87, windows pagefile and linux swap can't be used the same way, linux swap is a partition, windows pagefile is a file
[14:26] <grawity> Halitech: Linux _can_ use swap files.
[14:27] <Halitech> zhxk`, so if you do cat /etc/network/interfaces you get nothing?
[14:27] <DavidP87> im so confused, never done anything like this before LOL
[14:27] <RorZa> CarlFK: ssh: connect to host Slice_ip  port 22: Connection refused
[14:27] <gbrethen> can anyone help me with sound problem?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  linux does swap the better way. :)
[14:27] <grawity> Halitech: Technically, you can use Windows pagefile in Linux if you don't forget to mkswap it every time.
[14:27] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Neither way is better.
[14:27] <DavidP87> i dont even know what swap or page file is, all i know is you need to do it, argh so annoying
[14:27] <CarlFK> RorZa: what was the scp command, and where does Slice_ip come from?
[14:27] <zhxk`> Halitech:i'll answer you later, just rebooting it
[14:27] <gartral> grawity: yes, but A) its slower than that of a solaris partition, and B) winblows _can't_ use a solaris partition
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  yes it is..   less hassle. more efficient.
[14:28] <gartral> !swap | DavidP87
[14:28] <RorZa> CarlFK: scp Desktop/comming.jpg ty@Slice_ip:
[14:28] <Halitech> grawity, yes but its not that common and you would have to do some real configging to get it set up right and it wouldn't be as efficient going to an ntfs partition
[14:28] <grawity> Halitech: Why not? It isn't fragmented or anything
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  there used to be guides./hacks to let the 2 os;s share the same swap area of a drive.. but with drive sizes/cost these days..its not worth the hassle.
[14:29] <CarlFK> RorZa: are you trying to hide the IP from us?
[14:29] <Halitech> grawity, seems anytime I did something on ntfs it was slower then doing it to an ext partition
[14:29] <DavidP87> ok this is how it would go, page file(partition?), windows ntfs, linux ext3 or ext4 better? this is 64bit ubuntu, data(ntfs), swap (should i move this before data or keep it here)
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  i always just put swap partition at the end of the hard drive. just makes it easier.
[14:29] <DavidP87> ok thanks, so that part is sorted
[14:29] <RorZa> CarlFK: no I am not ..just do think is necessary
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  (windows) (linux) (linux /home) (swap)
[14:30] <dsnyders> Hi all. My desktop is just showing the background.  No icons, no menu bar, no nothing.
[14:30] <DavidP87> Dr_Willis linux /home = ntfs for data yeah? and where do i put page file?
[14:30] <gartral> DavidP87: your pagefile is contained within the windows partition, i would put an EXT4 part infront of the NTFS part for win, and a sole EXT3 part for data... your done (aside from adding the EXT3 drivers too windows
[14:30] <axion> I have a cardbus analog tvcard, and I am having problems playing back it's sound thru the system speakers.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  NO.. you do  NOT use /home on a ntfs filesystem.
[14:30] <DavidP87> sorry total noob here but im pretty shit at this stuff
[14:31] <CarlFK> RorZa: huh?  um.. let me ask another way: is that really the command you are typing, or are you changing what you post here?
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  let windows handle its own page file...
[14:31] <gartral> !language | DavidP87
[14:31] <kindofabuzz> dsnyders, i've had that happen before. a logoff/login fixed it
[14:31] <axion> the only way to get any sound from is by using the following sox line:
[14:31] <kapmsd> hi guys!!I am a newbie to C programming.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  windoes will put it on whatever drive its isntalled to.   :)
[14:31] <DavidP87> ok thanks Dr_Willis
[14:31] <RorZa> CarlFK: the Ip address is my sliceaccount
[14:31] <Link> Can someone help me install Matrox Graphics drivers ?
[14:31] <axion> sox -q -c 2 -s -r 32000 -t alsa hw:1 -t alsa -r 32000 hw:0
[14:32] <CarlFK> RorZa: what is the IP address of your sliceaccount?
[14:32] <kapmsd> In every C pgm,we make use of stdio.h as default.
[14:32] <kapmsd> stdio.h has the declaration of printf().
[14:32] <kapmsd> stdio.obj has the implementation or defintion of printf().
[14:32] <kapmsd> So we are able successfully compile our pgm .
[14:32] <kapmsd> But stdio.obj will be produced by the compilation of stdio.c.
[14:32] <FloodBot2> kapmsd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <kapmsd> I have not seen stdio.c anywhere,why?
[14:32] <DavidP87> Dr_Willis sorry but you confused me with the ext4 and ext3 part
[14:32] <kapmsd> Sorry
[14:32] <sipior> kapmsd: you mean stdio.h, surely?
[14:32] <kapmsd> ya
[14:33] <zhxk`> Halitech:i cant save setting to resolve.conf
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  ext3 or 4 are linux filesystems.. Nothing to do with windows. :)
[14:33] <DavidP87> from what i gather it should have gone like this , win, linux( ext3), data, swap file, where does ext4 fit in there? and why does ext4 have to be infront of win ntfs
[14:33] <kapmsd> only after compiling and .c we ll get .obj,right?
[14:33] <gartral> DavidP87: EXT4 for Ubuntu's OS part, NTFS for windows part, EXT3 dor shared data
[14:33] <sipior> kapmsd: have you installed the package "libc6-dev"?
[14:33] <kapmsd> then where is stdio.c
[14:33] <kapmsd> ?
[14:33] <zhxk`> Halitech:it is earsed out after reoot
[14:33] <kindofabuzz> kapmsd, why don't you ask in #c?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  linux can read/write ntfs now a days - thers no need for a 'data' parittion to share with windows.
[14:33] <pollo_> xia
[14:33] <DavidP87> gartral so use ext3 as shared, is that guaranteed i can access that from windows and is that better than ntfs?? last question hopefully
[14:34] <pollo_> bella!
[14:34] <pollo_> ehm..
[14:34] <kapmsd> I thought this is a very basic question answerable by anyone.Ok then.
[14:34] <radioman-lt> how you can access ext3 from windows? ;/
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  the linux partitions can be of differnt filesystems.  You dont  need to worry about  any 'shared' stuff and linux uses a swap PARTITION, not a swap file.
[14:34] <sipior> kapmsd: have you installed the package i asked about?
[14:34] <erUSUL> kapmsd: make sure you have build-essential installed
[14:34] <user_> yes its working but eth 1 also getting ip automatically
[14:34] <user_> why
[14:34] <user_> do anyone know it
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> radioman-lt:  its doable with some tools. (but can be risky)
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> !ext2
[14:34] <RorZa> CarlFK: you got it ?
[14:34] <dsnyders> kindofabuzz: I've tried ctrl-alt-backspace and logging in again: no effect
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> !ext3
[14:34] <nsahoo> hi, my keyboard is acting funny. sometimes keys appear to get stuck. especially keys after holding ctrl, like ctrl-z e.g. sometimes arrow keys do that too. Sometimes keystrokes are not registered. Now, I am using a wireless keyboard, so, I thought may be the battery is weak or something, replaced battery but I have the same issue. Before this I had a wired keyboard and had the same issue
[14:34] <kapmsd> wats that pkg libc6-dev?
[14:35] <DavidP87> Dr_Will!ext4
[14:35] <DavidP87> !ext4
[14:35] <nsahoo> is this keyboard problem related to some X issue or gnome issu?
[14:35] <user_> when i configure ip for eth 0 wireless disconnected
[14:35] <user_> why
[14:35] <nsahoo> I never had this problem in my previous OS
[14:35] <zhxk`> hello, how to save setting to /etc/resolve.conf permanently,even reboot?
[14:35] <sipior> kapmsd: just install "build-essential", as erUSUL suggested. it should pull in libc6-dev, among others.
[14:35] <bening> What is initrams?
[14:36] <Halitech> zhxk`, what about the network file? did that stay?
[14:36] <erUSUL> bening: is compressed file system grub loads so the kernel has the early userspace programs it needs to boot
[14:36] <DavidP87> (windows - ntfs ) (linux- ext4) (linux /home - ext3, used for data) (swap - is this just swap or is it ext3/ext4?) this look right to you Dr_Willis
[14:36] <Megra_> zhxk`, i don't think you can, but you can tweak the /etc/network/interfaces file to force the use of your custom DNS
[14:36] <kapmsd> I ll try it out.
[14:36] <erUSUL> bening: until it is able to mount the root fs /
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> DavidP87:  swap partition uses the swap filesystem :)
[14:37] <CarlFK> RorZa: there are 1000's (maybe millions) of bots probing IPs looking for vulnerabilities.    posting your IP in #ubuntu isn't going to make that any worse
[14:37] <ircfine> how can i change chmod 777 to a folder and it's all contents inside ?
[14:37] <Megra_> DavidP87, swap is ... swap :)
[14:37] <DavidP87> thanks LOL
[14:37] <Megra_> ircfine, chmod -R 777 directory
[14:37] <Halitech> ircfine, you would need to use -R
[14:37] <CarlFK> ircfine: -R
[14:37] <CarlFK> yeah, that.
[14:37] <itnom> flossk
[14:37] <erUSUL> ircfine: usually (almos allways may i say) chmod -R 777 is the wrong unswer to a problem
[14:38] <CarlFK> RorZa: if sshd is on port 3000, you need -p 3000
[14:38] <dsnyders> kindofabuzz: reboot does nothing.  I just have a background screen and a mouse pointer, but no desktop.
[14:39] <zhxk`> Megra_:ill see if there exist one
[14:39] <ircfine> erUSUL: what's the usual solution for this ?
[14:39] <erUSUL> ircfine: for what ? i missed your exact problem
[14:39] <doktoreas> is it possible that an out of memory could freeze the whole system and force a hard reset?
[14:40] <erUSUL> bening: if he types "exit" hit enter  does the machine continue booting ?
[14:40] <ircfine> erUSUL: i want to change mod chmod to 777 to all the contents of a folder
[14:40] <Halitech> ircfine, what folder?
[14:40] <erUSUL> ircfine: what folder and why ?
[14:40] <CarlFK> doktoreas: yes.  more likely it isn't frozen, but load is way high and it seems frozen.  give it an hour or so and it may come back
[14:41] <RorZa> CarlFK: where about should I specify the port ?
[14:41] <sachael> what docs do people in ubuntu use?
[14:41] <sachael> docks*
[14:41] <ircfine> erUSUL: a folder of a web based project , i copied it to /var/www
[14:41] <erUSUL> ircfine: if the folder is yours there is no problem... but many people mess up his system chmoding system files
[14:41] <Halitech> sachael, I use the family doc up the road
[14:41] <CarlFK> RorZa: scp -p 3000 Desktop/comming.jpg ty@Slice_ip:
[14:41] <zhxk`> root@ubuntu:/etc/network# ls
[14:41] <zhxk`> if-down.d  if-post-down.d  if-pre-up.d  if-up.d  interfaces~
[14:41] <zhxk`> root@ubuntu:/etc/network#
[14:41] <erUSUL> ircfine: why not make yourself a member of www-data group ?
[14:41] <kindofabuzz> dsnyders, sorry, i don't know a fix.
[14:41] <doktoreas> Hi CarlFK..got a sec to check the log before crashing?
[14:41] <zhxk`> Halitech:check it about
[14:42] <randy_> can anyone help me with setting up two ethernet cards on ubuntu server?
[14:42] <zhxk`> Megra_:pease check above
[14:42] <CarlFK> doktoreas: pastebin it - someone will check it
[14:42] <zhxk`> Halitech:above
[14:42] <erUSUL> !boot | bening also sometimes one of the boot options can help
[14:42] <Total_Oblivion> how can i see if i have activated animations @ compizconfig settings manager?
[14:42] <zhxk`> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/28062
[14:42] <zhxk`> Megra_: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/28062
[14:43] <sachael> I've heard only of awn, cairo and docky. any more of these?
[14:43] <erUSUL> bening: other causes of that are some bios settings related to the sata controller... linux works best with ahci mode
[14:43] <Halitech> zhxk`, strange ... ok, do sudo touch /etc/network/interfaces then use this as a basis to build yours http://paste.ubuntu.com/252516/
[14:43] <RorZa> CarlFK: doesnt work ...
[14:43] <dsnyders>                     Where's my desktop?
[14:43] <RorZa> I get the exact same error
[14:44] <Halitech> dsnyders, where did you leave it?
[14:44] <erUSUL> bening: i never used wubi so maybe is something else related to it... ask in a specific wubi forum
[14:44] <bjk> Sachael:  Simdock also comes up when searching the default repositories...I've never tried it though, docky works well for me
[14:44] <bening> erUSUL: ahci mode? i'll tell my friend about it, thanks
[14:44] <zhxk`> Halitech:im on xubuntu, do they different?
[14:44] <dsnyders> Halitech: It was there before I rebooted.  Now all I have is a spash screen and a mouse pointer.  No icons, no menus
[14:44] <Total_Oblivion> i mean i have checked the option but at it's sub menu i have some probs
[14:45] <Halitech> zhxk`, shouldn't be, I'm on xfce with debian and it looks the same as the ubuntu system I have
[14:45] <Halitech> dsnyders, did you do any updates? install any video card drivers?
[14:45] <frogzoo> iceroot: 2 choices - either just use software raid in ubuntu, or if you've got the intel matrix raid, you can run the matrix raid driver
[14:45] <dsnyders> Halitech, I presume the machine was requesting a reboot because of an update.
[14:45] <zhxk`> Halitech:hope so
[14:46] <erUSUL> bening: ok; good luck
[14:46] <CarlFK> RorZa: paste the command/error (put it all on one line)
[14:46] <erUSUL> !wubi > bening
[14:46] <Halitech> dsnyders, sounds like an update borked it, what video card and what version of ubuntu?
[14:46] <blizzkid> lo all. I missed the last regional boards meetings, and won't be able to make it to the next one, is the only possibility to become a member attend one of the meetings?
[14:46] <zhxk`> Halitech:what you pated is on interfaces~
[14:46] <doktoreas> Hi CarlFK here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1528046
[14:46] <zhxk`> pasted
[14:47] <bazhang> blizzkid, #ubuntu-meeting would be a better place to ask
[14:47] <Halitech> zhxk`, you need it to be in the interfaces file, the ~ means you opened it so it made a backup
[14:47] <blizzkid> bazhang: k, thx
[14:47] <dsnyders> Halitech, it is an nvidia GeForce 2 and I am running 8.10
[14:48] <RorZa> CarlFK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252521/
[14:48] <Halitech> dsnyders, reboot into recovery mode and run xfix and see it that lets you back in ... press esc to see grub
[14:48] <zhxk`>  bazhang:are you chinese?
[14:48] <CarlFK> RorZa: sorry, -P 3000
[14:49] <bazhang> zhxk`, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:49] <zhxk`> Halitech:so, rename it back?
[14:49] <Halitech> zhxk`, you can try renaming it or just create a fresh one and copy the info over
[14:49] <RorZa> CarlFK: I get this now Desktop/comming.jpg: No such file or directory
[14:49] <zhxk`> bazhang:ok, come there
[14:49] <zhxk`> ok, let me cp it
[14:49] <VegarnSCG> Hi, I've been googling around how to set up my computer as a bluetooth headset. I found some posts on how to connect a bt headset to the computer, but not make the computer act as a bt headset
[14:50] <VegarnSCG> is this possible with e.g blueman?
[14:50] <doktoreas> http://pastebin.ca/1528046 this is the last log and after that I had to hard reset the system
[14:50] <zhxk`> Halitech:whats next
[14:50] <dsnyders> Halitech: Additional info.  The screen saver (rocks) works, and when I press ctrl-alt-del, I get the switch user dialog box.
[14:51] <zhxk`> Halitech:i want ip,gate,dns be saved permanetly even reboot
[14:51] <CarlFK> RorZa: heh.  cd back to your home dir.
[14:51] <RorZa> CarlFK:  get this now Desktop/comming.jpg: Input/output error
[14:52] <CarlFK> RorZa: also, use tab completion - it saves typing and avoids errors: scp -p 3000 De<tab>/com<tab>
[14:52] <Halitech> zhxk`, reboot or restart the network, if its in that file it should be saved on reboot
[14:52] <Halitech> dsnyders, can you log into another user?
[14:52] <CarlFK> RorZa:  Input/output error?!  huh?
[14:53] <RorZa> thats right CarlFK
[14:53] <zhxk`> Halitech:give me exactly the config, i'm using eth1
[14:54] <Halitech> zhxk`, I don't know, I don't use static ips but anything you enter into that file will be saved
[14:54] <Total_Oblivion> can anyone help me with some animation prob i have?
[14:54] <lame-baby> bestbg@ubuntu:~/ircd/bin$ ./ircd
[14:54] <lame-baby> *** buffer overflow detected ***: ./ircd terminated
[14:54] <lame-baby> [14:54] <lame-baby> ?
[14:55] <FloodBot2> lame-baby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <CarlFK> doktoreas: yeah, you are out of memory,  oom-killer manager thing started killing stuff to make room, looks like postgres/java kept coming back to life...
[14:55] <moncky> !ask | Total_Oblivion
[14:55] <lame-baby> wtf ;)
[14:55] <moncky> !paste | lame-baby
[14:55] <zhxk`> Halitech:ok, i may enable dhcp service for the network
[14:55] <doktoreas> CarlFK, so can be a postgresql problem?
[14:55] <lame-baby> moncky, thanks
[14:56] <Halitech> zhxk`, try this, changing the numbers to what you need http://paste.ubuntu.com/252524/
[14:56] <RorZa> CarlFK: any ides ?
[14:56] <dsnyders> Halitech, just me and root on that machine, and I don't know the root password.
[14:57] <CarlFK> doktoreas: hard to say exacly where the problem is.  could be you don't have enough ram for what you are doing, could be a memory leak
[14:57] <zhxk`> Halitech:is there a way reboot the kernel, instead of entirely reboot?
[14:57] <Halitech> dsnyders, root doesn't exist so you can't login using root
[14:57] <ircfine> is it possible to have drag and drop option like netbeans for java project , i downlaoded eclipse java galieo from the official site
[14:57] <Halitech> zhxk`, you mean the network?
[14:57] <zhxk`> Halitech:i want to see it settings save
[14:57] <ircfine> is it possible to have drag and drop option in eclipse like netbeans for java project , i downlaoded eclipse java galieo from the official site
[14:58] <CarlFK> RorZa: add -v to the command, paste the results
[14:58] <Halitech> zhxk`, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:58] <zhxk`> Halitech:yes, restarted it
[14:58] <dsnyders> Halitech: I have to leave.  looks like you're busy anyways.  Ill try back after work.
[14:58] <Total_Oblivion> i go to compizconfig settings manager>effects>animations> check burn but no burn effect whatsoever. Why is that?
[14:58] <lame-baby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252525/ please help ;)
[14:58] <doktoreas> CarlFK, is there a way to check this from the logs?
[14:58] <atealtha> anyone here had luck using linux-rt and have it stable when transmission was running?
[14:58] <bazhang> Total_Oblivion, best ask that in #compiz
[14:59] <Halitech> dsnyders, ok, hopefully someone will be here with an idea other then trying xfix
[14:59] <doktoreas> CarlFK, I have got 4 Gb of rams and 3 Gb of SWAP
[14:59] <doktoreas> and running just apache
[14:59] <RorZa> CarlFK:  I am wasint oo much time ... I need to do it in a different way.
[15:00] <gartral> Davidf88: there does exsist an EXT3 driver for windows, and it (IMO) is faster than NTFS
[15:00] <dsnyders> Halitech: I don't think I have xfix.  I tried launching it from ctrl-alt-F1 window, but got an unknown command, even with sudo
[15:00] <CarlFK> RorZa: if you can't scp, you ... um... good luck finding better
[15:01] <Halitech> dsnyders, I think it only works when you boot into recovery mode
[15:01] <RorZa> I did it before and its now is not ..
[15:01] <lame-baby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252525/ please help ;)
[15:01] <dsnyders> Halitech: I'll jot it down and try it later.  Thanks for the help.
[15:02] <CarlFK> doktoreas: "something" is eating memory.  could be a monster query that needs more than you have, could be too many concurrent jobs... could be a bug (memory not being released...) try #postgress...
[15:02] <doktoreas> CarlFK, thx mate
[15:05] <THe_BeaT> hola
[15:05] <snoggleby> Is there any way to disable the transition that happens when you change wall papers? This effect makes my computer unusable for the 10 seconds it takes to do it.
[15:05] <phalk> i've installed bind9 on my ubuntu 8.10, added two local domains with reverse. i also set up a local irc server for testing purposes, and for fun, but whenever i connect to it using my local domain, the reverse doesn't seem to work. i've posted my domain files and reverse here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252529/
[15:05] <THe_BeaT> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar un raton en ubuntu?
[15:05] <snoggleby> I don't have problems with any of the other transitions or effects, just the wallpaper transition
[15:05] <Halitech> snoggleby, disable compiz
[15:05] <erUSUL> !es | THe_BeaT
[15:06] <snoggleby> I never enabled compiz to begin with
[15:06] <THe_BeaT> ok thanks
[15:06] <Halitech> snoggleby, its enabled by default if your card can handle it
[15:06] <neoTheCat> has anyone got the ATI binary drivers working with 9.04?  i tried it on my laptop, and x become a mishmash of unusability
[15:06] <lame-baby> THe_BeaT,
[15:06] <lame-baby> dime
[15:06] <lame-baby> a que se refiere ?
[15:06] <dare> snoggleby, it's in admin->appearance -> visual effects ( i think)
[15:06] <snoggleby> oh. how do i disable compiz then
[15:06] <Halitech> neoTheCat, what card?
[15:07] <nnull> neoTheCat, yeah i did, i think i got the driver from ati webby .deb they have *i think*
[15:07] <neoTheCat> Halitech: i guess that would have been helpful :) VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[15:07] <snoggleby> You mean under the Visual Effects section selecting off? That doesn't disable the wallpaper transition, and I thought Compiz was something extra besides that
[15:08] <Halitech> neoTheCat, same card as me, no it won't work
[15:08] <newdev> hi, i have a k8m800 graphics driver
[15:08] <nnull> my card is newer, atihd4350
[15:08] <snoggleby> Also I don't want to remove ALL effects since the desktop transition is the only one I have a problem with.
[15:08] <newdev> and a samsung 732n plus monitor
[15:08] <dare> snoggleby: that is compiz
[15:08] <newdev> my resolution is currently @ 800x600
[15:09] <newdev> please could someone help me increase my resolution?
[15:09] <RorZa> CarlFK: I managed to do it
[15:09] <newdev> (thanks in advance) :)
[15:09] <zhxk`> Halitech:my interface name is eth1
[15:09] <zhxk`> ifconfig shows
[15:09] <Halitech> nnull, the newer drivers should work for  you
[15:09] <mhall119|work> newdev: what video card and driver do you have?
[15:10] <RorZa> CarlFK;  I have put the file inside my home direcory ... started a new shell session and passed the -p option
[15:10] <Halitech> zhxk`, so change /etc/network/interfaces to eth1
[15:10] <zhxk`> Halitech:how?
[15:10] <Halitech> zhxk`, edit the file with gedit
[15:11] <zhxk`> Halitech:i can manage this
[15:11] <zhxk`> but what to edit
[15:11] <Halitech> zhxk`, where it says eth0, change it to eth1
[15:11] <newdev> mhall119|work: i have a k8m800 graphic card
[15:11] <newdev> i installed the chrome drivers
[15:11] <zhxk`> Halitec:it seems no effect
[15:11] <fosser_josh> while i creating deb package for ubuntu i got this error. Could not find package_1.0.orig.tar.gz Either specify an alternate file to use with -f, or add --createorig to create one. can anybody help me
[15:12] <Halitech> zhxk`, what do you mean? no effect?
[15:12] <Halitech> zhxk`, you need to restart the network to make it take effect
[15:12] <zhxk`> Halitech:it dont effect the system, it is what it was
[15:13] <zhxk`> the output of ifconfig still the same
[15:13] <zhxk`> and cant ping to other host
[15:14] <erUSUL> zhxk`: what error you get from ping ?
[15:14] <Halitech> zhxk`, post ifconfig from this machine and another one that works using pastebin
[15:15] <fosser_josh> can anybody help in developing deb package. i am getting problem while creating
[15:15] <newdev> mhall119|work: my graphic card is --> VIA Technologies Inc. K9M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 Unichrome Pro] (rev 01)
[15:15] <mhall119|work> Oh, VIA
[15:15] <Megra_> !deb
[15:15] <mhall119|work> :(
[15:16] <zhxk`>  erUSUL:network is unreach able
[15:16] <fosser_josh> ubottu: i am deeloping deb package. Could not find package_1.0.orig.tar.gz Either specify an alternate file to use with -f, or add --createorig to create one.
[15:16] <bazhang> !packaging > fosser_josh
[15:16] <newdev> mhall119|work: i looked for the monitor drivers on the samsung site
[15:16] <fosser_josh> bazhang: yah
[15:17] <newdev> mhall119|work: samsung only has the monitor drivers available for download for windows users!!
[15:17] <mhall119|work> newdev: monitor drivers?
[15:17] <Disconnect> having issues with tomcat 6.0.18 on jaunty. for some reason it stopped finding log4j in /usr/share/java. is there an obvious fix? ("stopped" as in when I left on tues, it worked. when I came in this morning, the email from the testers was "it doesn't start" and I'm getting nested exception is java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Level)
[15:17] <newdev> mhall119|work: my monitor is --> Samsung 732N Plus
[15:17] <fosser_josh> ubottu: i followed the steps but when go for dh_make -c gpl -s -b . i am getting error
[15:17] <mhall119|work> Disconnect: have you tried #ubuntu-java?
[15:18] <fosser_josh> bazhang: i followed the steps but when go for dh_make -c gpl -s -b . i am getting error
[15:18] <zhxk`> Halitech:i think i need to remove interfaces to keep the orignal state, late now, see you later
[15:18] <Disconnect> mhall119|work: good thought, thanks :)
[15:18] <Regel> hey, when I log in to gnome my keyboard stops working. I cant write anywhere, but some shortkeys work, like AltGr+SysRq+k (not Ctrl+Alt+F1 though)
[15:18] <mhall119|work> newdev: I have no experience with VIA, sorry
[15:18] <Halitech> zhxk`, ok, have a good one
[15:18] <newdev> mhall119|work: if you google "732N Plus" you'll see that samsung provides monitor drivers
[15:19] <newdev> mhall119|work:  so what should i do?
[15:19] <mhall119|work> newdev: I've never had to install a driver for a monitor in Linux
[15:19] <Halitech> newdev, you typically don't need to install monitor drivers
[15:19] <zhxk`> thx
[15:19] <mzz> newdev: hy do you need drivers? What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log (pastebin it)?
[15:19] <mzz> s/hy/why/
[15:19] <Halitech> newdev, have you checked Synaptic to make sure the openchrome drivers are installed?
[15:20] <mzz> newdev: (I recently acquired a laptop that should be using the same driver you use, although my chipset is a bit older)
[15:20] <newdev> i come over to this channel yesterday, and i did install the openchrome drivers
[15:21] <newdev> mzz: what is your resolution like? (How could i increase my resolution??)
[15:21] <mzz> newdev: 1024x768, which is the panel's native resolution.
[15:21] <mzz> newdev: I had to install an updated driver before it worked at all, but please don't do that just yet. Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it usually has clues.
[15:21] <fosser_josh> i want help in deb packaging can anybody there who already developed deb packages
[15:22] <erUSUL> fosser_josh: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[15:22] <Halitech> newdev, S3/via drivers suck (at least from my experience) you'd be better of to get a decent nvidia card and use it instead of the onboard video
[15:22] <gartral> !packaging | fosser_josh
[15:22] <mzz> Halitech: hard if it's a laptop
[15:22] <mzz> oh wait, his isn't?
[15:22] <Halitech> mzz, true but not sure if he said
[15:23] <mzz> Halitech: and yeah, I'm glad I'm using an open driver and not via's own, which iiuc isn't very good
[15:23] <newdev> mine is not a laptop!
[15:23] <mzz> newdev: then yeah, upgrading the card is an option. But I'm not convinced you'll have to just to get the right resolution.
[15:23] <newdev> but i really can't afford to buy anything right now
[15:23] <felipe__> ?
[15:23] <fosser_josh> erUSUL: yah
[15:23] <Halitech> mzz, I'm using the onboard ati x1200 on my system right now but only cause when I upgraded I didn't have the extra for a new pci-e card
[15:23] <fosser_josh> gartral: yah
[15:23] <felipe__> brazil
[15:23] <felipe__> ?
[15:24] <fosser_josh> gartral: can u help me
[15:24] <felipe__> ?
[15:24] <bazhang> !br
[15:24] <ZalimJin> fosser_josh@ help on what ?
[15:24] <thiebaude> !pt
[15:24] <felipe__> #ubuntu-br
[15:24] <newdev> i can't do any of my development work with such a low resolution!!!
[15:24] <gartral> fosser_josh: beyond the ubottu trigger, no, .deb packages are notoriously impossible to comprehend
[15:24] <jMyles> When I add "DefaultDepth 16" to my xorg.conf, I get dramatically improved performance.  However, my gnome-terminal and lib-notify become invisible.  What gives?
[15:24] <felipe__> #ubuntu-pt
[15:24] <newdev> so its kinda really important for me
[15:25]  * mzz is still waiting for Xorg.0.log
[15:25] <newdev> i read every forum post i could find
[15:25] <snoggleby> How can I disable the wallpaper fade effect when selecting a new wallpaper? I tried disabling compiz but it still happens. I need to find a way to disable this effect.
[15:25] <newdev> googled it
[15:25] <THe_BeaT> hi. i'm trying to install a mouse in ubuntu but i've got this error: usb 1-1: device not accepting address 19, error -110
[15:25] <mzz> snoggleby: iirc there's something in gconf for that
[15:25] <newdev> asked my friends, but really couldn't figure out what to do
[15:25] <fosser_josh> Zambezi: on deb packaging
[15:25] <mzz> snoggleby: (are you hitting the bug where it's horribly slow?)
[15:25] <THe_BeaT> somebody can help me please?
[15:25] <newdev> so the irc was my only hope!
[15:25] <albesan> ciao
[15:25] <jeeves_Moss> how can I make a default folder for my favicon.ico that'll be sitewide?
[15:25] <snoggleby> mzz: yes
[15:26] <mr_mustard> how do I disable anti aliasing for only one truetype font?
[15:26] <gartral> newdev do me a vavor and pastebin your xorg.conf
[15:26] <snoggleby> It's horrificly slow. I can't really do anything for the 10 seconds it takes to change wallpapers
[15:26] <felipe__> como faço pra entrar nu canal brazileiro
[15:26] <felipe__> ?
[15:26] <natrixnatrix89> Guys.. could you suggest me, where can i ask html related questions?
[15:26] <bazhang> felipe__, /join #ubuntu-br
[15:26] <gartral> s/vavor/favor
[15:27] <ZalimJin> ask here
[15:27] <newdev> gartral: sorry, but i don't know what "pastebin" means. (i am not to well versed with xubuntu yet!)
[15:27] <gartral> !pastebin | newdev
[15:27] <natrixnatrix89> if i have a picture that has a link.. like <a><img></a> After the link is followed the image has the stupid violet border around.. like the link is visited.. How do i get rid of the border (what do i add in the css a:visited, to get rid of this)?
[15:28] <gartral> natrixnatrix89: the color code of the pages background
[15:28] <natrixnatrix89> i tried background
[15:28] <natrixnatrix89> didnt work
[15:28] <natrixnatrix89> because i have a background picture
[15:28] <mzz> snoggleby: hmm, not finding it in gconf actually. Sorry.
[15:28] <gartral> natrixnatrix89: the _color_ _code_ of the backfround
[15:28] <snoggleby> ugh
[15:29] <jMyles> When I add "DefaultDepth 16" to my xorg.conf, I get dramatically improved performance.  However, my gnome-terminal and lib-notify become invisible.  Also, the title bars (normally drawn by compiz window decoration) disappear.
[15:29] <mzz> snoggleby: (didn't search *that* hard though)
[15:29] <natrixnatrix89> but isnt there a way that it doesnt make that stupid border?
[15:29] <mzz> jMyles: tried switching to a non-compiz wm (desktop effects off)?
[15:29] <natrixnatrix89> because it consumpts space too
[15:29] <gartral> jMyles: Compiz doesn't support 16 bit color depth, must be 24 or 32
[15:29] <newdev> gartral: how do i access my xorg.conf file?
[15:29] <snoggleby> I don't get why the option wouldn't be under the compiz settings. It's really irritating when worthless things get thrown into something and aren't even thrown in right
[15:30] <gartral> newdev /etc/xorg.conf
[15:30] <mikejones> sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-bin sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-bin
[15:30] <mzz> natrixnatrix89: padding, margin etc zeroed. Firebug is your friend.
[15:30] <mzz> snoggleby: pretty sure compiz isn't drawing the background or doing that fade.
[15:30] <mzz> snoggleby: I'd expect it somewhere under nautilus.
[15:30] <jMyles> gartral: Ahh, I see.  I wonder why I have such incredible performance with 16 bit.  Expo runs completely smooth, but I can't see a terminal.   Can I get any compromise?
[15:31] <erUSUL> jMyles: how much memory does your graphic card have ?
[15:31] <gartral> jMyles: metacity has a composit mode, it's nothing spectacular though.. also might try xcompmgr
[15:31] <mzz> jMyles: what's the gpu chipset, for that matter?
[15:31] <newdev> gartral: "no such file"!!!
[15:32] <jMyles> erUSUL: It's a laptop - Radeon Mobility M7500.  Shared memory.
[15:32] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[15:32] <mzz> jMyles: might want to hunt around for some driver bug affecting performance in regular 24bit mode
[15:32] <newdev> gartral: i can't find /etc/xorg.conf
[15:32] <gartral> newdev: oooooops.. my fault its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:32] <jMyles> mzz, gartral: erUSUL: Right now I'm enjoying performance like I've never had.  I don't want to go back.  :-)
[15:32] <mzz> newdev: not having an /etc/X11/xorg.conf is normal. Did you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log yet?
[15:32] <crocd_work> hi guys i need some advice on mounting a drive on a lappy i am reparing/ I cannot mount the /dev/sda1 drive. its not seeing it
[15:33] <mzz> crocd_work: is /dev/sda itself there? Anything interesting in dmesg?
[15:33] <gartral> mzz newdev ignore that, mzz, i had him looking in the wrong place
[15:33] <erUSUL> crocd_work: define «its not seeing it» does the dev node appear or not? mount faqils? if so how?
[15:33] <erUSUL> !details | crocd_work
[15:33] <jMyles> mzz, gartral: erUSUL: I'm noticing other things that are invisible - gnome-do is one of them.  Maybe I just can't see anything that's drawn with compositing?
[15:34] <mzz> jMyles: I wouldn't be surprised at all if anything that's partially transparent failed
[15:34] <gartral> jMyles: that's exactly the problem, because compiz doesn't support 16-bit depth
[15:34] <root> hi..
[15:34] <mzz> yeah, exactly
[15:34] <crocd_work> mzz: it is there when I use fdisk -lu it shows as being ther but mounting it using ntfs-3g throws up error not valid ntfs
[15:34] <newdev> i just "pastebinned" my xorg.conf
[15:34] <Guest57068> i had previously installed jaunty with ext4 as filesystem..
[15:34] <mzz> jMyles: if you turn compiz off they should become visible, just no longer translucent.
[15:34] <SilentWarrior> how do i update the timezone?
[15:34] <Guest57068> now i am back with intreped..
[15:34] <Guest57068> how to access the content in ext4 in intreped?
[15:35] <mzz> jMyles: you can probably get metacity to run with compositing to get the translucency back, although it's not as fancy as compiz
[15:35] <gartral> newdev: now past the URL too it here :P
[15:35] <newdev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252549/
[15:35] <crocd_work> i am running the latest ubuntu version of a flash drive. need to mount /dev/sda1 to copy across a file
[15:35] <newdev> there you go!
[15:35] <newdev> :)
[15:35] <mzz> crocd_work: ah. So are you sure the partition itself is still healthy? Iirc there's a limited fsck in ntfsutils
[15:35] <mzz> crocd_work: sorry, ntfsprogs
[15:35] <snoggleby> can i install an old version of gnome along side a newer one? apparently the wallpaper fade thing is a gnome issue
[15:35] <mzz> snoggleby: not conveniently
[15:36] <mzz> snoggleby: (I suspect you'd be better off installing a whole older ubuntu)
[15:36] <mohan_> anybody have idea?
[15:36] <jMyles> mzz, gartral:  Well what I'm enjoying is desktop wall with expo.  Previously it was CHUNKY - so much so that it created a disincentive to use it for organization of tasks.  Now it's running nice, so I'd like to find a way to keep this performance without turning compiz off but still being able to see the things that are currently invisible.
[15:36] <mzz> snoggleby: I'm pretty sure libbackground has an abi change, specifically. So you'd need things like nautilus using it to be rebuilt, or you'd have to downgrade those too. That'll quickly turn into a huge mess.
[15:36] <snoggleby> well i can uninstall gnome then install an older release of it right?
[15:36] <snoggleby> oh
[15:36] <mohan_> i how to access ext4 partition content in intreped?
[15:36] <snoggleby> guess it's time to try out kde
[15:37] <mzz> jMyles: you won't get expo in 16 bit mode. Not without hacking on compiz to make it work in that mode.
[15:37] <jMyles> mzz: Well I have expo right now so I must not be in 16-bit mode.  How can I tell?
[15:37] <gartral> newdev: ewww gods.. you have a completly unconfed xorg.conf... I think I can think of a few things too add if toy give me a moment
[15:37] <mzz> snoggleby: your chances of finding either a way to turn the effect off or a version of libbackground where it is fast are much higher than your chance of successfully downgrading
[15:37] <rek__> net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[15:37] <rek__> You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[15:38] <gartral> s/toy/you
[15:38] <mzz> jMyles: ok, s/work/work properly/ (for compiz in 16 bit mode)
[15:38] <maveas> How do I chmod on files in a parent folder and files in the child foldes to the parten?
[15:38] <maveas> parent*
[15:38] <erUSUL> maveas: -R
[15:38] <maveas> so chmod -R 644 *.php ?
[15:38] <mzz> jMyles: assuming we're correct about it not being supposed to work in that mode
[15:38] <moncky> maveas: yup
[15:38] <maveas> Thanks
[15:38] <rek__> help
[15:38] <newdev> gartral: what should i do ??
[15:38] <rek__> You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[15:39] <maveas> ANd how do I affect the folders only with chmod 755?
[15:39] <newdev> gartral: what does the following mean --> "if toy give me a moment"??
[15:39] <gartral> newdev: wait a minute, let me see what i can do with this, k?
[15:40] <joakimk> I've just installed XP on my laptop, formatting the entire HD as NTFS. Now I want to use the Ubuntu 9 installer to set up a dual boot :) I'm following this guide, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm Will the Ubuntu installer create all necessary "sub-partitions" for me, like / and /home? I just want to say, "ubuntu, take half the disk." But what about swap, do I need that, and how do I do that?
[15:40] <newdev> gartral: thanks a lot :)
[15:40] <gartral> newdev: if you give me a moment, it was a typo
[15:40] <aethelrick> find -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[15:40] <newdev> gartral: sure! :) thanks again
[15:40] <mzz> maveas: you may like chmod +X
[15:40] <crocd_work> mzz: i dont think it is the ntfs partition it his having problems with I dont think ubuntu is actually seeing the drive/ I can get the cd rom to work fine but the internal hard drive is not showing up. dmesg shows the drive is ther
[15:40] <mzz> maveas: (check the manpage, +X sets the x bit only if it's a directory)
[15:40] <newdev> gartral: shall i come back after a couple of minutes?
[15:41] <alongenemylines> joakimk: the installer will handle all necessary partitions for you
[15:41] <mzz> crocd_work: I don't follow. If you see the correct partition layout in dmesg the drive is there. Anythinc scary in dmesg?
[15:41] <oussama> hi
[15:41] <mzz> crocd_work: have you run smartctl -a over the drive yet?
[15:41] <mzz> crocd_work: err, the correct partition layout in *fdisk*, of course
[15:41] <joakimk> alongenemylines: Nice! But should I make a swap area? Or can Ubuntu and XP read each other's partitions now?
[15:41] <mohan_> how to access an ext4 partition in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:41] <maveas> Thanks
[15:41] <joakimk> alongenemylines: ...if you see what I mean ;)
[15:42] <crocd_work> mzzmzz not yet let me have a look
[15:42] <mzz> joakimk: they can't use each other's swap conveniently. The "guided" partitioner should do something reasonable though.
[15:42] <erUSUL> mohan_: you need a kernel (and mount programetc) that understand ext4
[15:42] <gartral> newdev: PM me with your card model, please
[15:42] <erUSUL> mohan_: use a newer distro
[15:42] <newdev> graphic card?
[15:42] <crocd_work> mzz will correcting the partition in fdisk not corrupt it
[15:42] <mohan_> erUSUL: isn't there any other method?
[15:42] <snoggleby> joakimk: xp cannot read ext3 partitions. xp can only read ntfs and fat16/32 partitions. linux however can deal with ntfs partitions pretty well
[15:42] <joakimk> mzz: OK, because the last time I did this, I made an explicit 15GB slice with FAT32 formatting, so both could use it
[15:42] <mzz> crocd_work: what? Don't write anything in fdisk! I didn't mean for you to do that!
[15:43] <erUSUL> mohan_: installing a newer kernel in ntrepid ?
[15:43] <alongenemylines> joakimk: swap is just basically writing excess ram to hard disk.  you'll need no extra setup, ubuntu can read and write to windows partitions, windows however, needs ext3 tools installed to even be able to see or read from linux partitions
[15:43] <mzz> crocd_work: I just meant that if "fdisk -l /dev/sda" lists the right partition layout that means your drive is there, and if the partition still won't mount I'd blame the filesystem first (so fsck it and all that)
[15:43] <mzz> joakimk: with ntfs-3g linux is pretty good at both reading and writing ntfs now, so I'd prefer that filesystem type for a shared partition these days
[15:44] <joakimk> alongenemylines: so, it might be convenient to have a common, small partition, in FAT32. Not sure if I'm right to call it "swap"
[15:44] <snoggleby> lol you're using fdisk? you'd better start looking for guides on restoring grub
[15:44] <mzz> joakimk: (which means you probably won't need a dedicated shared partition, you can just read/write your main windows partition from ubuntu)
[15:44] <mohan_> erUSUL: should i compile linux from source? or can i get from package manager?
[15:44] <thiebaude> !swap
[15:44] <mzz> snoggleby: what? "fdisk -l" is a pretty decent way to look at a partition table. We're not writing to it...
[15:44] <erUSUL> mohan_: you can try to install a deb from a newer ubuntu release
[15:44] <joakimk> mzz: But the other way, then? Xp can't read the Ubuntu part?
[15:44] <alongenemylines> joakimk: you can make a "shared drive" if you want, but ubuntu can also directly read and write to your windows partition, making the shared drive not necessary
[15:44] <joakimk> ubottu: OK, so I won't call it "swap" :D
[15:45] <mohan_> erUSUL: ok.. thank you :) will try..
[15:45] <mzz> joakimk: not conveniently, no.
[15:45] <joakimk> hehe
[15:45] <joakimk> right...
[15:45] <erUSUL> mohan_: there is no waraties for it to work though
[15:45] <mzz> joakimk: (it *is* possible, although I'm not sure if it'll handle ext4 yet)
[15:45] <mohan_> erUSUL: ok.. maybe i should transfer the data in it using ubuntu 9.04 live cd ..
[15:45] <snoggleby> mzz: i guess it depends on how you're running fdisk. i tried running the xp recovery disc once to use fdisc to check out partitions and it was kind enough to completely hose my boot sector
[15:45] <joakimk> alongenemylines: OK, so the Ubuntu installer will allow me to make an extra small part for FAT32, then, right?
[15:46] <erUSUL> mohan_: that's another option a livecd
[15:46] <mohan_> erUSUL: right?
[15:46] <mzz> snoggleby: I'm talking linux fdisk, not windows fdisk
[15:46] <crocd_work> mzz fsdk -l /dev/sda1 error out with does not contain valid partition table
[15:46] <snoggleby> ah nevermind
[15:46] <mohan_> erUSUL: ok......................
[15:46] <mzz> snoggleby: "fdisk -l" is quite read-only and therefore safe
[15:46] <mohan_> erUSUL: bye..
[15:46] <mzz> crocd_work: yes. Try it on sda, not sda1.
[15:46] <erUSUL> mohan_: bb
[15:46] <mohan_> erUSUL: thanx :)
[15:46] <erUSUL> mohan_: no problem
[15:46] <jacekowski> btw. fdisk is safe program
[15:46] <mzz> joakimk: yes, but you'd have to partition manually. Why do you need this though?
[15:46] <paul1> can anybody tell me how to simulate JUNOS on my Ubuntu linux 8.10?I intend to simulate the command lines for juniper routers
[15:46] <jacekowski> if you know how to use it
[15:46] <alongenemylines> joakimk: the ubuntu installed just runs gparted for disk partitioning.  you can make as many partitions as you could want
[15:46] <joakimk> mzz: To move stuff back&forth between XP and Ubuntu
[15:47] <mzz> joakimk: again: ubuntu will happily both read from and write to your main windows xp partition ("c:" in windows)
[15:47] <mzz> joakimk: why do you want a separate partition?
[15:47] <alongenemylines> joakimk: but ubuntu can read and write DIRECTLY to your windows partition.  you do not need a non-os partition just for moving files
[15:47] <joakimk> mzz: hehe, yes, but will XP be able to read the ubuntu partition, is my question :)
[15:47] <crocd_work> mzz it shows the partitions, there are 2 on i is flagged as bootable and it sees it as ntfs/hpfs
[15:48] <mzz> joakimk: no, but I don't see why that means you'd need a separate partition to share data. Just use a directory in your main windows partition.
[15:48] <alongenemylines> joakimk: by default, no, xp cannot see linux partitions
[15:48] <mzz> crocd_work: does that match the layout you expect?
[15:48] <snoggleby> you can just save stuff you want to your xp partition. as long as you put the stuff you want to access there, you don't need another partition
[15:48] <joakimk> mzz: ahh! I see
[15:48] <joakimk> thanks!
[15:49] <nyaa> joakimk you'll need the right stuff to see ntfs from linux, but just look up ntfs in synaptic, its pretty well named
[15:49] <crocd_work> mzz yes
[15:49] <ichat> joakim -    -  provided, that you want - to share data between  linux and windows -  EITHER you format it as NTFS  - or  as  EXT3  -  in the later - you'l also need to install   an  FS driver in windows
[15:49] <msteele__> ??
[15:49] <mzz> nyaa: ntfs-3g is installed by default (at least it was here)
[15:49] <msteele__> hello?
[15:49] <MadGirl> somebody said hello was this right syntax? routes_eth0=("-net 188.40.73.128 netmask 255.255.255.192 default via 188.40.73.129") ?
[15:49] <jMyles> OK, I'm back.  I switched to "DefaultDepth 24" and everything is back to normal, dreadful performance and all
[15:49] <mzz> crocd_work: then I still suspect the filesystem, not the drive (assuming you're mounting the right partition out of the two)
[15:49] <msteele__> what?
[15:50] <msteele__> nick
[15:50] <msteele__> agh
[15:50] <msteele__> how do I change my name?
[15:50] <mzz> MadGirl: err, that's a gentooism if I'm not very much mistaken. What file are you seeing or putting that in?
[15:50] <MadGirl> mzz: no idea
[15:50] <crocd_work> mzz the first on is the larger partition the second one is the restore partition for lenovo
[15:50] <joakimk> mzz: OK, just to be sure: Will the U installer ask me what format I want for the partition? And what should I use? I'm thinking ext3
[15:50] <abhishek_> HOW CAN I INSTALL VLC IN UBUNTU?..PLS HELP ME..
[15:50] <thiebaude> !caps
[15:50] <zaggynl> shipitkthx: dude, less caps and more googling
[15:50] <erUSUL> !software | abhishek_
[15:50] <msteele__> amen
[15:50] <sash_> joakimk:  right
[15:51] <mzz> joakimk: if you use the guided partition it'll do something reasonable (iirc it'll ask you how much to shrink the windows partition, then set up an ext3 root and some swap, but it's been ages since I used that thing)
[15:51] <nyaa> abhishek_ try  "   sudo apt-get install vlc   "
[15:51] <crocd_work> abhishek_: dont shout, use the synaptic package manager to do that
[15:51] <raiden> salut all
[15:51] <mzz> joakimk: you can also do the partitioning by hand if you prefer, it's fairly self-explainatory (sp?)
[15:51] <kusanagi_> anybody knows how to bring focus to a windows that i only have the pid? its hiden and i lost the icon in the systry :S
[15:51] <kusanagi_> i use gnome
[15:51] <mutafuter> hey yall
[15:51] <bernd_> hi
[15:51] <abhishek_> sorry guys...
[15:51] <erUSUL> paul1: http://juniper.cluepon.net/index.php/Olive
[15:51] <msteele__> hi
[15:51] <msteele__> how do I change my name here?
[15:52] <erUSUL> msteele__: /nick newnick
[15:52] <msteele__> msteele
[15:52] <msteele__> thanks
[15:52] <mzz> MadGirl: what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:52] <MadGirl> i wish i knew, mzz
[15:52] <msteele__> oop
[15:52] <msteele__> ah, there
[15:52] <msteele__> gaah
[15:52] <Pharsalus> kusanagi_: what happens when you stop then restart the process? Does the window reappear minimized?
[15:52] <msteele__> .
[15:52] <paul1> erUSUL:thanks. already on it
[15:52] <mzz> kusanagi_: there's no general way to do that
[15:52] <erUSUL> paul1: no problem
[15:53] <msteele__> msteele
[15:53] <msteele__> \nick msteele
[15:53] <msteele__> not working...
[15:53] <grawity> msteele__: It's /nick msteele
[15:53] <msteele__> i did
[15:53] <msteele__> i just tried backslash to see if it would work
[15:53] <grawity> No, you used \nick
[15:53] <erUSUL> msteele__: if someone else is using the nick you want you will not be able to use it
[15:53] <crocd_work> abhishek_: or you can use sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:53] <msteele__> i kinda doubt it...
[15:53] <p1oi2jefafda> .
[15:53] <kusanagi_> Pharsalus, i dont want to restart the process :S
[15:54] <p1oi2jefafda> oh, there we go
[15:54] <p1oi2jefafda> it just took a while I guess
[15:54] <ifail[laptop]> hi guys, i'm using 9.04, and i have added an unprivileged account. Compiz doesn't seem to work there, and i sem to get graphical artefacts. Any ideas how to enable/allow 3d accel?
[15:54] <kusanagi_> mzz, any particual way to do it in gnome?
[15:54] <p1oi2jefafda> . (sry, testing name)
[15:54] <Pici> !ot
[15:54] <mlsteele> .
[15:55] <ifail[laptop]> hi guys, i'm using 9.04, and i have added an unprivileged account. Compiz doesn't seem to work there, and i sem to get graphical artefacts. Any ideas how to enable/allow 3d accel?
[15:55] <mzz> kusanagi_: no, I meant there's no general mechanism used by processes to tell them "recreate your main window"
[15:55] <Pici> mlsteele: Please don't test here, the channel is already busy enough without that.
[15:55] <mzz> kusanagi_: what process are we talking about?
[15:55] <Adam_eM> hi there
[15:55] <kusanagi_> mzz, amsn
[15:55] <innomen> Pici, hew dosent know how to change his nick what makes you think he knows how to leave the channel etc?
[15:55] <mzz> kusanagi_: no clue then, sorry.
[15:56] <msteele__> .
[15:56] <kusanagi_> mzz,  it just hide... i lost the icon in the systry... but it works perfectly well... i can chat and all
[15:56] <ifail[laptop]> hi guys, i'm using 9.04, and i have added an unprivileged account. Compiz doesn't seem to work there, and i sem to get graphical artefacts. Any ideas how to enable/allow 3d accel?
[15:56] <kusanagi_> mzz i can not show it again :S
[15:56] <innomen> so just for the rcord there is absolutly no way to kill a process that is "uninteruptable"
[15:56] <innomen> correct?
[15:57] <Adam_eM> my 3d performance is very low. It seems i need a proprietary ati drivers to improve the situation, I only dont know how to install them
[15:57] <ifail[laptop]> it works on my account, but not on the other one
[15:57] <kusanagi_> system administrator/ harware drivers Adam_eM
[15:57] <ifail[laptop]> fuck this
[15:57] <oussama> do you have intel graphic card
[15:59] <vavar> i installed xterm but it's white and it seems different from the usual xterm. who can explain what's the difference?
[15:59] <Jack-> hi
[16:00] <Jack-> can anybody tell me how can I fix this ?!
[16:00] <Pharsalus> Hello
[16:00] <Jack-> /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: cannot create cache for search path: Cannot allocate memory
[16:00] <Jack-> :|
[16:01] <Pharsalus> Jack-:  Double the size of the swap partition? just a guess..
[16:01] <Adam_eM> kusanagi_: but I only have a statement there that my system doesn't use any restricted drivers
[16:01] <erUSUL> !ati | Adam_eM
[16:01] <Jack-> Pharsalus, for this I need to re-install ubuntu ?
[16:02] <thiebaude> Jack-, how much swap do you have?
[16:02] <kusanagi_> Adam_eM, if it recognize ur card, it shoudl give u the option to avtivate the propietary drivers there
[16:02] <jMyles> Really?  I have to install a package to re-anble ctrl-alt-backspace to restart x?  Is there another reasonably easy way to restart x?
[16:02] <Jack-> thiebaude, 1 GB
[16:02] <thiebaude> Jack-, how much ram?
[16:02] <Pharsalus> Should be ample swap space..
[16:02] <thiebaude> yep
[16:02] <erUSUL> jMyles: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[16:02] <Jack-> thiebaude, 2 GB
[16:03] <Jack-> DDR2
[16:03] <erUSUL> !dontzap > jMyles
[16:03] <thiebaude> Jack-, i agree with Pharsalus
[16:04] <nyaa> Jack: its most likely some sort of permissions issue, bash doesn't take much memory at all
[16:04] <Jack-> thiebaude, can I make swap partition bigger thru console, or I need to reinstall Ubuntu ?
[16:04] <nyaa> Jack are you opening the terminal through a user that you usually don't log in as?
[16:05] <thiebaude> Jack-, not sure about that, i set swap when i first install ubuntu
[16:05] <Jack-> nyaa, I usual login as user.. not root .
[16:05] <mlsteele_> .
[16:05] <Pharsalus> thiebaude: You can use a graphical partition app, don't need to reinstall Ubuntu
[16:05] <jMyles> So, I'm still facing the issue of MUCH better performance in 16 bit mode, but no window decorations and an invisible terminal.  Not sure what to do.
[16:05] <thiebaude> !gparted
[16:06] <oussama> hi jack may you just jo copie the bash from the live cd
[16:06] <thiebaude> Pharsalus, i forgot,lol
[16:07] <mmaher> !ubuntu
[16:08] <vavar> ok -fg -bg set xterm colors..
[16:08] <mmaher> !suse
[16:08] <Adam_eM> huh?? It says I have the intel graphic card. How came that I had ati packages installed by default?
[16:08] <mmaher> !SUSE
[16:08] <gert7> hi
[16:08] <Pharsalus> Jack-: Double the size of the swap partition and see what happens. Any graphical partition program can do it for you
[16:09] <Jack-> ok, I'll try .
[16:09] <Jack-> Thanks :)
[16:09] <rabit510i> mata
[16:09] <rabit510i> hi
[16:09] <rabit510i> elo
[16:09] <rabit510i> pipo;d
[16:09] <FloodBot2> rabit510i: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <Pharsalus> It's a weird problem though, 1GB of swap should be ample space for swap.
[16:10] <thiebaude> Rabit510i, do you have a question?
[16:10] <Pharsalus> Isn't the rule of thumb that swap should be 50% as big as your RAM? Or is it 200%? I can't remember...
[16:11] <thiebaude> phalk, 1.5 times size of ram
[16:11] <thiebaude> my bad
[16:11] <thiebaude> Pharsalus,
[16:11] <mzz> yeah, but that's an old guideline
[16:11] <Megra_> Pharsalus, but not over 2Go (more is useless)
[16:11] <Pharsalus> mzz: What is it now? :p
[16:11] <mzz> imnsho the same size as your ram suffices with current ram sizes (of over 1GB)
[16:11] <richardcavell_> Megra_: if you want suspend to disk it has to be at least as large
[16:12] <mzz> Pharsalus: try to do something that actually uses all that swap. Is your system still usable? :)
[16:12] <crocd_work> mzz: i think i know why i cannot get access to the drive, it has truecrypt on it and it is preventing me from accessing the drive
[16:12] <Winkie> so, i notice that Pessulus ships completely and utterly broken in the latest ubuntu
[16:12] <mzz> I'd make swap smaller than ram, but that's annoying when you hibernate.
[16:12] <HackersDavid> hello
[16:12] <mzz> crocd_work: that makes perfect sense
[16:12] <dalekleader> i hope someone can help me.  I had tried to setup a BIND9 dns on a server.  I later aborted it and removed the package.  now I cannot seem to get this server to connect to the web.  when I try to host google.com it appends my old domain name to the end and ofcourse fails.
[16:12] <Guest26675> hello HackersDavid
[16:12] <HackersDavid> Fr
[16:12] <Guest26675> you hacker ?
[16:12] <mzz> dalekleader: anything fishy in /etc/resolv.conf?
[16:12] <Guest26675> yes
[16:12] <Guest26675> frensh
[16:13] <maco> dalekleader: dont you mean "exterminated" it? *giggle*
[16:13] <HackersDavid> oui
[16:13] <HackersDavid> si
[16:13] <HackersDavid> eys
[16:13] <gartral> where can i ask specified questions about th xorg.conf file?
[16:13] <Guest26675> go to pv
[16:13] <jMyles> How do I change the command by which compiz is run?
[16:13] <maco> dalekleader: maybe you need to purge it so the config files go away too?
[16:13] <HackersDavid> heckers chapeau blanc
[16:13] <dalekleader> mzz: no, it only shows my isp info
[16:13] <gubuntu> no
[16:13] <crocd_work> mzz thankos for your help
[16:14] <mlsteele> does anyone know where the pseudo-C Drive is after a crossover games installation? (Analogous to the ~/.wine/drive_c/ directory from a normal wine install)
[16:14] <Pharsalus> jMyles: Menu > system > preferences > startup Applications then find compiz in the list and edit it.
[16:14] <HackersDavid> oui install wine
[16:14] <dalekleader> maco: i will try that
[16:14] <jMyles> Pharsalus:  Thanks.  Seems so obvious now. :-)
[16:14] <mlsteele> what hackers?
[16:14] <Pharsalus> jMyles: Np. :)
[16:15] <mzz> dalekleader: then I don't know what's up, sorry. Might want to doublecheck /etc/nsswitch.conf too, but I don't know what'd be in there that'd break it like this.
[16:15] <userone> is indus still here?
[16:15] <Trijntje> Hi all, how can I get gnome to auto-mount a luks encrypted usb drive?
[16:15] <gubuntu> .cmd run -s ~/scripts/csrvLaunch.sh pass HDHKA3JU22JSU822KS
[16:15] <gubuntu> oops wrong channel sry
[16:15] <userone> i ran sudo os-prober. where does the output go>
[16:15] <mlsteele> is there any way I can turn off the annoying messages in irc, like that someone quit or joined?
[16:16] <Slart> userone: not from what I can see.. he'll probably be back later
[16:16] <mlsteele> is there any way I can turn off the annoying messages in irc, like that someone quit or joined?
[16:16] <gubuntu> mlsteele: what irc client are you using?
[16:16] <mlsteele> xchat gnome
[16:17] <mlsteele> gubuntu: xchat gnome
[16:17] <jMyles> So I'm still kinda stuck here.  I get really very decent performance with a depth of 16.  I get absolutely awful performance with a depth of 24.  I mean it's night-and-day.  However, at 16, some features of compiz don't work - there is no window decoration and I can't see anything in gnome-terminal.  So, I need to either 1) Get this stuff working in 16-bit or 2) get my 24-bit performance to mirror my 16-bit performance.
[16:17] <v0lksman> I'm trying to get a logitech quickcam working on my jaunty system.  It works in cheese but not in the app I want.  When I try luvcview I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/252576/  any suggestions?
[16:17] <userone> can anyone else here help me with a grub problem? i cant get grub to boot vista. i have edited the menu.lst with the command root (hd0,0) but still nothing.
[16:17] <HackersDavid> moi utilize spoonwap 2 cracker un voisin
[16:17] <gubuntu> msteele: Rightclick the channeltab -> Check 'Hide Join/Part Messages'
[16:18] <thiebaude> !fr!fr
[16:18] <thiebaude> !fr
[16:18] <ryanakca> Usernames cannot have spaces in them, correct?
[16:18] <Trijntje> userone: can you past your vista line?
[16:18] <gryphus71> Hello ! how can explain to me, the difference bitween /home and /usr please ?
[16:18] <grawity> ryanakca: Correct.
[16:18] <Trijntje> !pastbin|userone
[16:18] <ryanakca> grawity: Great, thanks
[16:18] <Trijntje> !pastebin|userone
[16:18] <mzz> Huh. Anyone know any reasons for "apt-mark markauto" to not add a package to /var/lib/apt/extended_states?
[16:18] <grawity> gryphus71: /home contains user homedirs. /usr contains files used by programs (/usr/share/fonts, for example)
[16:19] <ectropy_> Hi, all - I've posted my issue at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237525
[16:19] <mlsteele> can someone help me w/ crossover please?
[16:19] <ectropy_> thx in advance for all your help.
[16:19] <bazhang> mlsteele, crossover forums?
[16:20] <userone> Trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252577/
[16:20] <gryphus71> grawity: ok because i installing a freebsd on a old server, i want do a SSH server and FTP server
[16:20] <RR> Hey Anybody there tht could hel me with firewall-config- for a server?
[16:20] <mlsteele> well, i don't really know how to phrase my question
[16:20] <gryphus71> grawity: *ok thx
[16:20]  * mzz skims the code and suspects apt-mark is just broken
[16:20] <grawity> ...that's one big typo
[16:20] <mlsteele> I mean how to search for it, no phrase it, sry
[16:20] <erUSUL> RR: ufw; shorewall or firehol
[16:20] <erUSUL> !ufw | RR
[16:20] <bazhang> mlsteele, crossover is not supported here; try their forums
[16:21] <mlsteele> ok
[16:21] <mlsteele> why is your name yellow when you send messages?
[16:21] <Socah> Hello. Could somebody give me a hint how to untar all tarballs in folder?
[16:21] <Pharsalus> Real men use iptables. ;)
[16:21] <grawity> mlsteele: Because they start with your nick.
[16:21] <mzz> gaah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/328574
[16:21] <oDesk> i want to list all files on one folder that is not *.pdf howto?
[16:21] <gryphus71> grawity: /usr contains personnals config !? if i understand
[16:21] <mlsteele> grawity, oh, neat, so this works for you?
[16:21] <grawity> mlsteele: Yes. (I don't use xchat though)
[16:21] <sammy> trying to move my / partition; I cp -a 'd everything to a new partition, updated /boot/grub/menu.1st with the new UUID and updated /etc/fstab with the new UUID. I ran update-grub and copied the new menu.1st to the newroot/grub/boot. what am I missing?
[16:21] <Trijntje> oDesk: ls |grep -v *.pdf i think
[16:22] <moustafa> Anyone knows an easy to use graphical bandwidth monitor to use to monitor my USB modem bandwidth usage?
[16:22] <grawity> gryphus71: No
[16:22] <gryphus71> graw !?
[16:22] <gryphus71> grawity:  !?
[16:22] <HackersDavid> hello
[16:22] <Pharsalus> sammy: Shouldn't you use cp -r for 'recursive'?
[16:22] <Socah> Hello. Could somebody give me a hint how to untar all tarballs in folder?
[16:22] <guntbert> gryphus71: /ust stands for Unix System Resources - nothing personal in it!!
[16:22] <bazhang> HackersDavid, hi
[16:22] <HackersDavid> is cracké l wifi
[16:22] <mlsteele> moustafa: what about system>administration>system monitor?
[16:22] <erUSUL> Socah: find . -type f -name '*tar*' -exec tar xf {} \;
[16:22] <erUSUL> Socah: or something like that
[16:22] <bazhang> HackersDavid, not here
[16:22] <Trijntje> userone: hmm, that looks alright, are you sure vista is on your first partition?
[16:22] <Socah> erUSUL: thank you
[16:22] <RR> erUSL: I need special help with the config.
[16:22] <evilbug> what folder are apps installed in?
[16:23] <craigbass1976> Wireless on my laptop doesn't come on until I log in now that I'm at intrepid.  Is Jaunty the same way?
[16:23] <sammy> Pharsalus: I actually used cp -ax because I have other partitions with /usr and /home and other such directories. I only wanted to copy everything on the / partition. I also think -a includes r. I think its dpr or dPr or some such.
[16:23] <garymc> Hi guys, my launcher files are now opening with a text editor instead of firefox
[16:23] <moustafa> mlsteele, I want something which saves my usage for whole month not just the session
[16:23] <garymc> why would that be?
[16:23] <gryphus71> guntbert: FreeBSD 8.0 Bétâ 2 propose to me /usr by default ...
[16:23] <mlsteele> moustafa: Oh, I don't know then. Good luck
[16:23] <bazhang> HackersDavid, cracking wifi is not supported on this channel. please dont discuss it or ask for help
[16:23] <grawity> evilbug: Usually the binaries go to /usr/bin if you install from repositories, or /usr/local/bin if you compile them yourself.
[16:23] <moustafa> mlsteele, thank anyway :)
[16:23] <HackersDavid> si nubunutu
[16:23] <grawity> gryphus71: Are you sure it's /usr and not /user?
[16:24] <bazhang> HackersDavid, nubuntu?
[16:24] <gryphus71> grawity: yes
[16:24] <grawity> gryphus71: And what _exactly_ is "proposing /usr to you?
[16:24] <userone> Trijntje: fdisk says sda1 (ntfs) http://paste.ubuntu.com/252580/
[16:24] <guntbert> gryphus71: this is ubuntu support, my knowledge about FreeBSD is *very* restricted :-)
[16:24] <v0lksman> bazhang: no...nubunutu
[16:24] <evilbug> grawity: i'm trying to install songbird and i got the tar from their site, do i move the content over to /usr/bin?
[16:25] <rski> evilbug: No.
[16:25] <grawity> evilbug: What does the tar contain?
[16:25] <thiebaude> !getdeb
[16:25] <jMyles> I have VERY improved performance in 16-bit depth over 24-bit mode.   How can I understand why this is the case?
[16:25] <moncky> evilbug: you need to untarr it and compile the program
[16:25] <JdN> hi there
[16:25] <rski> jMyles: it's easier to render 16bit.
[16:25] <gryphus71> grawity: i don't know ^^ if select automatic partitions > i have : /   SWAP   /tmp   /usr   and   /var but no /home like ubuntu
[16:25] <JdN> anyone has worked with wxWidgets
[16:26] <grawity> gryphus71: That means it will just put /home in /
[16:26] <jMyles> rski, everyone:  Well, here's the thing:  It's really like night-and-day.  I want to stay in 16-bit, however some things are now invisible, such as gnome-terminal and window decorations.
[16:26] <grawity> gryphus71: It does not need to be a separate partition.
[16:26] <gryphus71> grawity: on server or PC ?
[16:27] <userone> i was told to runa program called os-prober. i did this but where does the output go so i can see where my vista and ubuntu are situated on the hdd?
[16:27] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[16:27] <gryphus71> grawity: ?
[16:27] <Trijntje> userone: i'm no expert on this, but I have my vista partition as bootable, not my linux partition
[16:28] <HackersDavid> si spoonwpa wpa
[16:28] <bazhang> HackersDavid, please stop
[16:28] <gryphus71> grawity: on my PC have a separate /home, but on server it just contains updates or temp-software-to-install !?
[16:29] <userone> Trijntje: i can change that easily using fdisk, but that doesnt seem to change anything
[16:29] <ascheel> Anybody here ever use WICD?  I'm wondering what (if any) advantages it has over network-manager
[16:29] <Trijntje> userone: you already tried that and reboot?
[16:29] <thiebaude> !wicd
[16:29] <gryphus71> grawity: and, always on server, the home directory (when they log in SSH session) is on /home too or in /usr !?
[16:30] <gryphus71> grawity: /usr is for datas like FTP ... !?
[16:30] <Adam_eM> ok got that. I have 945GM Intel Graphics Card and the performance seems to be much more below expectations. Can I improve it somehow?
[16:30] <erUSUL> !intel | Adam_eM
[16:31] <userone> Trijntje: i have changed the bootable flag, i will now reboot and see again..http://paste.ubuntu.com/252581/
[16:32] <gryphus71> grawity: are you afk ?
[16:32] <evilbug> grawity: sorry, net issues. the songbird tar contains a few folders and the app launcher.
[16:32] <guntbert> gryphus71: you should better ask the FreeBSD people about design decisions they made. the channel is ##freebsd
[16:32] <v0lksman> anyone know how to force v4l2 or uvc driver for webcam?
[16:33] <evilbug> grawity: do i copy just the app launcher into /usr/bin?
[16:33] <sammy> THE BOOTABLE FLAG
[16:33] <Trijntje> Hi all, how can I get gnome to auto-mount a luks encrypted usb drive? It prompts me for the password but then only creates /dev/mapper/luksxxx-xxxx
[16:33] <gryphus71> guntbert: partitions are partitions ... ubuntu like freebsd
[16:33] <humbolt> Shall I use Xen or KVM for virtualization?
[16:34] <bazhang> gryphus71, you are using ubuntu? or freebsd
[16:34] <guntbert> gryphus71: but the decision to adhere to a special scheme where to store things are not the same everywhere
[16:35] <gryphus71> bazhang: i'm using ubuntu and i'm doing a server ubuntu or freebsd
[16:35] <bazhang> gryphus71, or? not really understanding you
[16:35] <mzz> humbolt: or virtualbox, although I suspect one of the other two you mentioned makes more sense for linux on linux
[16:36] <gryphus71> bazhang: i try the both for the moment, i read manuals and FAQ ...
[16:36] <sash_> humbolt:  afaik, xen isnt really integrated in actual ubuntu-kernels.
[16:36] <Brazz> Hello everyone, I am using an old ATI video card and I have heard about the improvements to people like me with the 9.10 Karmic and I was thinking, is it worth to download and use the Karmic right now even tho its still in beta or should I wait until the offical release?
[16:36] <Curtis_B> anyone know of a bash command to append one text file to another?
[16:36] <erUSUL> Curtis_B: cat
[16:36] <bazhang> gryphus71, ##freebsd for freebsd here or #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server
[16:36] <mzz> Brazz: shrug, we can't answer that for you
[16:36] <gryphus71> guntbert: ok, i don't know partitionnement were different in ubuntu and freebsd
[16:36] <erUSUL> Curtis_B: cat file1 file2 ... fileN
[16:36] <Brazz> mzz: why?
[16:37] <mzz> Brazz: if you have the space you can install karmic and jaunty side by side, although karmic preferring grub2 makes that slightly awkward
[16:37] <humbolt> mzz sash_: Is Xen really fading out?
[16:37] <erUSUL> Brazz: it is not even in beta... is alpha afaics
[16:37] <Halitech> Brazz, if you have an old ati card then chances are it will work but you won't be able to use compiz or get 3d o work
[16:37] <randy_> how do i setup a network with 2 ethernet cards, one for lan and one for wan?
[16:37] <gryphus71> #freebsd
[16:37] <mzz> Brazz: other than that we can't tell you if whatever new features in karmic are worth suffering through its current unstable state
[16:37] <mzz> humbolt: I have no idea
[16:37] <oDesk> Trijntje: this "ls | grep -v *.pdf" lists the pdf files content into shell .. any way ?
[16:37] <guntbert> gryphus71: its not about ubuntu vs. freeBSD but about linux vs freeBSD
[16:38] <bazhang> Brazz, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[16:38] <sash_> humbolt:  at work i only got a debian-xen-server with 2.6.26, but in ubuntu its just in the 8.04-kernel, i think
[16:38] <mzz> Halitech: err, what? Define "old". I have a 9600xt, it runs compiz (at least it did in jaunty, haven't tried karmic but I don't know of a reason for this to have changed)
[16:38] <gryphus71> guntbert: no problem ;)
[16:38] <Brazz> erUSUL, mzz, Halitech: well the thing is... I can't play anything right now.
[16:38] <Brazz> bazhang: thank you
[16:38] <moncky> Halitech: mzz sash_ not reall It has been left off the next two fedora releases but will be in Red Hat 6
[16:38]  * gartral hopes he did newdev right
[16:38] <mzz> Brazz: what chipset?
[16:38] <Halitech> mzz, well my x1200 has been delegated to not supported so anything older then that
[16:39] <Brazz> Mobility Radeon 9000
[16:39] <mzz> Halitech: I think you have the open and closed drivers mixed up
[16:39] <humbolt> sash_: I got a debian lenny xen running in production use also. Now I move to a new server and am thinking about whether I shall move to KVM or not.
[16:39] <gartral> Halitech: i think ATI revoking support for my 9600 sucks
[16:39] <mzz> Halitech: the open drivers work just fine with many old-ish cards and are gaining support for *newer* cards
[16:39] <Brazz> mzz: I can garantee no games work fine with my driver. I have taken all possible steps
[16:39] <userone> Trijntje: i just reboot with the new partition table, and then tried to boot into vista. now vista says 'missing bootmgr'
[16:39] <arooni> ok i was able to put my iphone in DFU mode.... but virtualbox (vm for windows xp on ubuntu jaunty) wont let me activate the USB device Apple Computer Inc DFU Device.  ideas?
[16:39] <Halitech> Brazz, do you have all the codecs in stalled and have you tried disabling compiz?
[16:39] <Brazz> mzz: its just about my driver and the ati support for my driver in jaunty
[16:39] <Halitech> gartral, I agree
[16:39] <grawity> arooni: I think you have to set up USB filters _before_ plugging in the actual device...
[16:39] <mzz> Brazz: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[16:40] <userone> can i have grub and windows bootmgr on different partitions? if so, which will boot first?
[16:40] <ircfine> how to install anjuta from anjuta-2.26.2.1.tar.gz ?
[16:40] <mzz> ircfine: consider grabbing it from apt instead
[16:40] <arooni> grawity, i have enabled usb for the vm already
[16:40] <Halitech> mzz, even with the open drivers my x1200 doesn't work
[16:40] <garymc> anyone know why when i click on a intranet webpage link it opens it in text editor?
[16:40] <sash_> humbolt:  i like xen. imho easy to use, not oversized, stable. good scripts (udev, network-bridges). i dont want to try anything else
[16:40] <garymc> i want it to open in firefox
[16:40] <guntbert> arooni: there is the channel #vbox ...
[16:40] <mzz> Halitech: yes, but an x1200 is *tons* newer than what I consider an "old" card
[16:40] <Brazz> mzz, Halitech: http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues
[16:40] <davenpro> anyone with bluetooth/bnep clue... I have the bnep kernel module loaded, but no bnep0 interface
[16:40] <GuyFromHell> Anyone know what black magic pidgin is using to not get an ugly notification with notify-osd? I can't find the patch anywhere
[16:40] <alongenemylines> arooni: i had a similar problem before.  don't worry about filters, you can pass any usb devide through to vbox.  i remember my problem had something to do with group permissions
[16:41] <ircfine> how to install anjuta from anjuta-2.26.2.1.tar.gz ? i downloaded and run ./configure  but make and make install failed
[16:41] <humbolt> sash_: udev?
[16:41] <Halitech> mzz, I know its newer but if its not supported by the closed driver then anything older won't be either
[16:41] <GuyFromHell> hmm, i'll ask in dev
[16:41] <Brazz> mzz, Halitech: after trying everything, and I mean everything. many people here in the channel helped me until I found that article which made me realise its nothing I can do about it.
[16:41] <sash_> humbolt:  without the udev-script, i was not able to connect over ssh
[16:41] <fryguy> how do I change the theme for libnotify popups? notification-properties correctly updates the corresponding gconf entries, but it's rendering with a theme that looks like growl on osx.  If I change for the root user and run notify-send as root the theme changes, but not for my user.  What do I need to change
[16:41] <gartral> the only problem with xen is it requires dom0 kernals
[16:41] <grawity> !ics
[16:41] <mzz> Brazz: yes, but you don't *want* fglrx for your card, you want the open drivers. I'm not sure how well they work for that specific card though. Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[16:41] <humbolt> sash_: has to do with virtual consoles, as far as I know.
[16:41] <guntbert> ircfine: why don't you use the one from the repos?
[16:42] <guntbert> !info anjuta | ircfine
[16:42] <mzz> Halitech: the closed driver is being phased out by ati: newer versions of fglrx only support cards not supported by the open driver.
[16:42] <Brazz> mzz: when I finally got a driver running, the performance went way down. so there's just nothing I can do about it.
[16:42] <grawity> fryguy: That's because notification-properties updates the settings for notification-daemon
[16:42] <humbolt> sash_: but Fedora/RedHat moved to KVM. What about Ubuntu/Debian?
[16:42] <alongenemylines> arooni: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-VirtualBox-USB-Support-111715.shtml
[16:42] <grawity> fryguy: And Ubuntu Jaunty comes with the newer notify-osd.
[16:42] <mzz> Halitech: the closed driver not working isn't interesting if the open one does, although it's entirely possible the open one doesn't provide adequate performance *yet*
[16:42] <sash_> humbolt:  i also think, that i wasnt able to connect via xm-console... but i dont really remember
[16:42] <Brazz> mzz: and many people in this channel have been helping me.
[16:42] <humbolt> sash_: yes, that is the same issue
[16:43] <fryguy> grawity: so how do I update the look of notifications sent via notify-osd?
[16:43] <mzz> Brazz: if they're pointing you at an article about the closed driver they're confused. You'll have to get the open driver working, the closed one is a dead end.
[16:43] <Halitech> mzz, sounds about right but until it does, I'm stuck 1 step behind the 8-ball so to speak
[16:43] <humbolt> you need to tell the system in inittab, which tty dev to use
[16:43] <grawity> fryguy: That is something I haven't figured out... I think notify-osd doesn't even have theme support.   If you prefer the older style popups, you can kill notify-osd and then start /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon
[16:43] <Pici> !who
[16:43] <humbolt> and on the xen boot line
[16:43] <sash_> humbolt:  afaik more developers like kvm.  and it is supported in every kernel of any distri, i think
[16:43] <moncky> sash_: humbolt Red Hat 6 will support xen, they have only removed from Fedora 11 and possibly 12
[16:43] <Brazz> mzz: https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden that was my last attempt.
[16:43] <mzz> Halitech: yes, but that doesn't mean "you won't be able to use compiz or get 3d o work" on "anything older then" "my x1200"
[16:44] <sash_> humbolt:  query, if you want to continue talking. must go afk for about 20 minutes
[16:44] <humbolt> moncky: xen is finally moving into the kernel, isn't it?
[16:44] <fryguy> grawity: thanks
[16:44] <mzz> Halitech: compiz *will* work on significantly older cards. It's the cards in between the pretty old ones (say r300) and the very new ones still supported by fglrx that are problematic right now.
[16:44] <guntbert> !ot | humbolt moncky
[16:44] <humbolt> sash_: see you around later then
[16:44] <grawity> fryguy: And if you want, notify-osd can be removed through apt
[16:45]  * jMyles cannot believe how much faster every element of his laptop is with DefaultDepth set to 16.  Too bad window decoration doesn't work.
[16:45] <ircfine> guntbert: because i am not getting the code complete option
[16:45] <moncky> guntbert: read back was pertenant to the question
[16:45] <ircfine> i am not getting the code complete option in anjuta ,what's the problem ?
[16:45] <mzz> Brazz: again, the closed driver is a dead end. The open one should work, will *probably* (but no guarantees) support compiz, but I don't know how well it'll perform in current games (as much because it's simply an oldish chip than because of the state that driver's in)
[16:46] <ircfine>  i am not getting the code complete option in anjuta ,what's the problem ? how cant i get code complete option ?
[16:46] <JdN> anyone could tell me how to know if i have wxPython libs installed in my ubuntu
[16:46] <humbolt> guntbert: virtualization is ubuntu specific and even which systems you can run on an ubuntu host or on which systems you can run an ubuntu guest is not offtopic
[16:46] <Brazz> mzz: in windows I can run any game on this computer. bad graphics or good graphics apart, I can run any game
[16:46] <mzz> JdN: "apt-cache search wx" points out the existence of python-wxgtk2.x packages (for x 4, 6 and 8)
[16:46] <crdlb> jMyles: you'll probably just need to not use a compositing manager :/ 16-bit color used to work for compiz with the radeon and intel drivers, but it broke a while ago (it has never worked with nvidia)
[16:47] <guntbert> moncky: how is "Red Hat 6 will support xen" pertinent to  ubuntu *support*?
[16:47] <Halitech> mzz, work and work to the point where it doesn't annoy you by using it are different though
[16:47] <mzz> JdN: check if those are installed (dpkg -L or something)
[16:47] <HackersDavid> hello
[16:47] <mzz> Brazz: what won't work very well currently is running compiz and 3d games simultaneously, but I'm not sure if the fix for that one (dri2) will be in karmic (last time I checked it wasn't ready at all yet, so wouldn't be in karmic either)
[16:48] <jMyles> crdlb:  Yeah, the real shame is that I can't use docky or other things that need a compositing manager.  I had no idea my laptop could be this smooth and fast.  Even running compiz, it's recklessly fast, but now I have it disable because I can't deal with being unable to see gnome-terminal (and everything else that uses compositing)
[16:48] <userone> how can i find where the mbr is?
[16:48] <HackersDavid> bien
[16:48] <fluurp> master boot range is in the first 512b i think
[16:48] <userone> i know where it is supposed to be (hd0) but how can be sure
[16:48] <crdlb> jMyles: the reason it's so much faster is that it makes the textures use less memory per pixel of your videoram, and you probably only have around 32MB
[16:48] <fluurp> wiki says so
[16:49] <Brazz> mzz: alright, help me then. =)
[16:49] <SilentWarrior> is there a ubuntu app to clone a webpage for offline viewing? i tryed one yesterday but the css files werent applying for some reason
[16:49] <mzz> jMyles: if this thing uses shared ram I'd try playing around with the amount of ram reserved for the card
[16:49] <Brazz> mzz: help me get a driver working fine for my ati card
[16:49] <jMyles> crdlb: I mean, I'm seriously amazed.  Every program loads faster, web pages load faster, my computer is running much cooler, etc.
[16:49] <userone> fluurp: ok, so grub says it is in hd0,2. so if i replace windows bootmgr, that should only overwrite the 512kb in sda1, and not sda3 right?
[16:49] <mzz> Brazz: I'm no driver dev, the amount of help I can give you is limited. Also, your problem with "games" is horribly vague :P
[16:49] <jMyles> mzz:  Yeah, it does use shared memory.  I think I can modify that through xorg.conf, right?  Or need I seek it out in my bios?
[16:49] <ircfine> code completion problem in anjuta
[16:50] <mzz> jMyles: I'd expect it to need bios poking
[16:50] <fluurp> userone: i dont know ;)
[16:50] <mzz> Brazz: does compiz run acceptably?
[16:50] <ircfine> cant find code completion option in anjuta
[16:50] <Brazz> mzz: couldn't run better
[16:50] <crdlb> jMyles: it looks like the bug has been fixed upstream: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20479 so presumably karmic will work
[16:50] <ugliefrog> green text?
[16:50] <mzz> Brazz: does 3d stuff run acceptably with compiz temporarily disabled?
[16:50] <ircfine> cant find code completion option in anjuta ,does anyone know the solution?
[16:50] <rabidweezle> mzz, if you have an ATI though, make sure to shut off compiz for gaming
[16:50] <mzz> rabidweezle: exactly, see above :)
[16:51] <gartral> do nvidia 6200s support DRI?
[16:51] <rabidweezle> I just got in
[16:51] <rabidweezle> :)
[16:51] <crdlb> gartral: they support 3d acceleration with the proprietary nvidia driver, if that's what you're asking
[16:51] <mzz> rabidweezle: my radeon (r300 era) works quite acceptably, although admittedly I don't use it in 3d frequently. It's Brazz who has problems.
[16:52] <Brazz> mzz: I agree, its a vague issue, but what I dont like is to have any malfunction on my computer for example a driver that is not installed... sooner or later the problem will reflect something else more important for me than gaming and then I tell you that I will almost instantly go back to window and I dont want that.
[16:52] <rabidweezle> ahh mzz
[16:52] <Brazz> mzz: its not only me who has problems.
[16:52] <rabidweezle> ATI linux drivers atm are pitiful
[16:52] <jMyles> crdlb:  Yes, that bug precisely describes my situation.
[16:52] <mzz> Brazz: yes, but I need to know what the actual problem *is* before I have even a chance of helping you fix it :P
[16:52] <HackersDavid> hackers son bien
[16:52] <Brazz> mzz: youtube works well with compiz.
[16:52] <mzz> Brazz: youtube is 2d, not 3d.
[16:53] <rabidweezle> only thing I suggest to run in linux is nvidia :/ they got some rock solid drivers
[16:53] <mzz> Brazz: (also flash, which has its own set of issues independent of graphics card/driver used)
[16:53] <gartral> rabidweezle: Kyro cards are good if you dont need 3d
[16:53] <kannan02> when i use vi editor backspace key is not working likewise  up and down arrows are not working correctly... my keyboard layout is USA...
[16:53] <mzz> rabidweezle: the radeon ones are improving, although there's a range of recent-ish cards that fall into a gap between fglrx (dropping support) and the open drivers (not supporting them all that well *yet*)
[16:53] <Brazz> mzz: well what do you want me to tell? I haven't been able to run any game how will I find out if my 3d is running well or not?
[16:54] <vk_123> are you in insert or command mode
[16:54] <mzz> Brazz: define "haven't been able to run any game"
[16:54] <kannan02> insert mode
[16:54] <moncky> kannan02: are you in command mode or edit mode when you try and move around the doc?
[16:54] <moncky> kannan02: esc esc
[16:54] <rabidweezle> AMD just needs to crack the whip on ATI to work harder on their linux support XD
[16:54] <gartral> Brazz: can you run The Battle For Wesnoth
[16:54] <mzz> gartral: wasn't that 2d?
[16:54] <moncky> kannan02: in vi you need to move arround in command mode and then go to insert mode then back into command mode if you need to move around
[16:55] <gartral> rabidweezle: AND needs to get off their lazy arses and work on better Linux support for all their products
[16:55] <Brazz> mzz: never heard of it... the games I've been trying to run was world of warcraft and Tibia and none of them made it that I could play
[16:55] <moncky> kannan02: vim will allow you to use the cursor keys whilst in insert mode :D
[16:55] <Brazz> mzz: no even tibia that is a game which requires nothing of the graphics
[16:55] <gartral> mzz: the 1.7.6 beta has some 3d work in it... although its very buggy
[16:55] <mzz> Brazz: I'm not familiar with tibia, were you running that under wine too? Can you try some open game (tuxracer works)?
[16:55] <kannan02> how to exactly switch mode i kno only esc+i
[16:55] <cezar> I've tried searching, but I can't find how to remove the status bar from the new gnu screen profiles?
[16:55] <rabidweezle> gartral, like what? my amd athlon x2 64 runs awesome in linux?
[16:56] <grawity> cezar: How about disabling the profiles completely?
[16:56] <moncky> kannan02: i to get into insert mode and escape to get out of insert mode
[16:56] <Brazz> mzz: tibia has a native linux option too
[16:56] <gartral> rabidweezle: does it shut down one core when not used like it's supposed too?
[16:56] <rabidweezle> yes
[16:56] <linuxmen> please, can anyone tell me where i can find a wiki that shows some help on editing the ubuntu wiki pages????
[16:56] <gartral> ok, they DID improve.. why wasn't I memoed!?!
[16:56] <mzz> Brazz: can we pick something I can run locally too please? tuxracer works for that
[16:56] <rabidweezle> I can make it also downclock half
[16:57] <gartral> rabidweezle: see? no 1/8th scale clocking
[16:57] <ircfine> cant find code completion option in anjuta ,does anyone know the solution?
[16:57] <Othor> In Ubuntu 9.04 none of the nautilus scripts I have are working, anyway to rectify this?
[16:57] <rabidweezle> no 1/8th no
[16:57] <rabidweezle> just half
[16:57] <v0lksman> I'm trying to get a logitech quickcam working on my jaunty system.  It works in cheese but not in the app I want.  When I try luvcview I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/252576/  any suggestions?
[16:58] <kannan02> moncky:ya arrows are working!! but backspace is not working in both modes
[16:58] <mzz> v0lksman: is it using the right device? What does dmesg have to say about the camera?
[16:58] <rabidweezle> that sounds like something an intel laptop could do
[16:58] <biagidp> I'm running ubuntu 9.04 on a xeon 2.8 processor and Xorg is constantly using over 50% of my CPU cycles.  Is that normal, and if not how do I fix it?
[16:58] <vk_123> i have a problem involving dual monitors and firefox. I'm using nvidia driver 180 and each monitor is a separate x window. when I have any number of instances of firefox up on one monitor, I then cannot open firefox on the other monitor.
[16:58] <cezar> grawity: Yea, that's a possibility. I can just spin up my own .screenrc
[16:58] <v0lksman> mzz: no errors in dmesg...says it loads up fine...
[16:58] <mzz> biagidp: no, can't really tell (try closing apps, usually this is some app getting Xorg to draw on its behalf, if you know what I mean)
[16:58] <userone> if i write grub to my mbr, will that fix the problem of vista 'missing bootmgr'?
[16:59] <moncky> kannan02: try using the del key, iirc vi doesnt like backspace, its a throw back to the 70's
[16:59] <mzz> v0lksman: does /dev/video0 actually exist? What about /dev/video<some number other than 0>?
[16:59] <biagidp> mzz: it seems to stay unreasonably high, no matter the combination of applications open or closed
[16:59] <newdev> gartral: are you there
[16:59] <v0lksman> mzz:  yep, exists and no others exist...
[16:59] <moncky> kannan02: have a look at vim (vi improved) (sudo apt-get install vim)
[16:59] <NoMS> userone: yes
[16:59] <mzz> vk_123: you'll have to use separate profiles if they're different displays, I'm pretty sure.
[17:00] <enno> Help. I have a Dell PowerEdge where i tried to install ubuntu (desktop). It has a hardware raid. I cant install grub and endup with "the file -boot-grub-stage1 not read correctly". i tired reinstalling grub in a chroot or update-grub, etc. nothing works for me
[17:00] <rabidweezle> vk_123, I've been having troubles with dual monitors altogether on the latest driver, it's quite temperamental
[17:00] <mzz> biagidp: even in a failsafe session with just an xterm?
[17:00] <nasso> im looking for something for ubuntu that can automatically fetch dvd-covers for all movie in a directory
[17:00] <mzz> biagidp: anything fishy in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[17:00] <nasso> i know xbmc can do it. does anyone know of any other applications?
[17:00] <userone> NoMS: will that actually 'move' grub, or make 1 copy in the mbr and leave one on (hd0,2) where boot stage says it is now?
[17:00] <mzz> v0lksman: don't know what's up then, unless you have two drivers mixed up.
[17:01] <NoMS> nasso:  griffith is a dvd manager/organizer.  It will fetch covers and movie info
[17:01] <v0lksman> mzz:  yeah pretty weird eh?  ok...so I'm not crazy... ;)
[17:01] <kannan02> moncy:i'm downloading it now
[17:01] <vk_123> mzz: i had a feeling it had something to do with profiles. i actually just learned what they were recently in this book i'm reading. i'm new to linux still though.
[17:01] <mzz> v0lksman: well, it's not like I have a webcam like that, so I don't know if luvcview is supposed to work with it.
[17:01] <nasso> NoMS, thanks. will look it up
[17:01] <vk_123> can anyone point me to some docs
[17:01] <guntbert> ircfine: I just checked it myself, no completion either, have you talked to the anjuta people?
[17:01] <NoMS> userone: If you install it, it will put grub on the mbr
[17:01] <Phar> nick pharsalus
[17:01] <mzz> vk_123: they're very much a firefox thing, not a linux one (firefox has profiles on windows too, for example). Try "firefox -P -no-remote" with DISPLAY pointing at the second display
[17:02] <moustafaza> how can I know how much ram am I using specifically from the /proc directory under the console?
[17:02] <mzz> vk_123: that's assuming the error you're getting is that the profile's already in use
[17:02] <biagidp> mzz: the log file ends with 20+ lines of "miPointerUpdateSprite: Invalid input device pointer"
[17:02] <nasso> NoMS, can it automatically get all the movietitles from disk?
[17:02] <mmaher> moustafaza: cat /proc/meminfo
[17:02] <mzz> biagidp: that's not too excessive, although I guess it's possible you're actually hitting some weird input bug, not an output one
[17:02] <randy_> Can anyone help me setup my interfaces file for 2 ethernet cards? My network is setup with a cox modem, then a network switch, and then a netgear router. I have one of the ethernet cards connected to the network switch and the other one connected to the netgear router. The one connected to the router is getting an ip address automatically assigned with dhcp and the other one needs to be configured manually with static ips.
[17:02]  * rabidweezle wonders if getdeb has a apt repo...
[17:02] <moustafaza> mmaher, thanks :)
[17:03] <nasso> NoMS, i have backed up all my dvds to iso-files on my harddrive and want a "gallery" of dvd-covers
[17:03] <vk_123> mzz the error i get is "Firefox is already running, but not responding. to open a new window, you must first close the existing firefox process, or restart your system
[17:03] <rabidweezle> killall -9 firefox or firefox-bin
[17:03] <mzz> vk_123: yeah, use a second profile (add -P to the command that gives you that error message to get the profile manager)
[17:03] <Sylphid|work> hey all, Ive been looking at getting a 10' netbook for a while an i have my short list... anyone have any input on any of these 3 models ... Asus 1005HA, Samsun N120, Toshiba NB205
[17:03] <Halitech> rabidweezle, yes they do (from what I remember seeing)
[17:03] <mzz> vk_123: no, don't kill it!
[17:03] <rabidweezle> Halitech, thanks
[17:03] <mzz> rabidweezle: that's not his issue. His issue is that he wants to run it on two separate displays
[17:03] <rabidweezle> oh
[17:03] <NoMS> nasso:  gets titles, cast, rating etc and cover if available.  saves it in the .griffith folder in your home directory. There's a sub directory, but can't remember the name.  probably images or something
[17:04] <vk_123> mzz: ok let me try this...
[17:04] <moustafaza> mmaher, is their a way to find that out? I mean if I didn't know the file is called meminfo and I want to search for the what could include information about the memory in the /proc is their a way to search for it?
[17:04] <newdev> to restore xorg.conf from a backup, is the following code correct:
[17:04] <newdev> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.org /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:04] <nasso> NoMS, okay. will try it out. thanks
[17:04] <userone> NoMS: my ubuntu works just fine, and find /boot/grub/stage1 says it is at hd0,2. i have edited my menu.lst file for vista to root (hd0,0) but it still doesnt boot vista (missing bootmgr). so i think if i move grub to the mbr, it should still boot ubuntu and fix / boot vista. i dont need to install grub, its already there and working on hd0,2. will this work?
[17:05] <[GPL]> how can i make my microsoft webcam, to work in #ubuntu
[17:05] <mmaher> moustafaza: mhh think not
[17:05] <newdev> how can i restore the xorg.conf file from a backup??
[17:05] <mzz> newdev: sure, if that's the name of your backup
[17:05] <NoMS> userone:  grub will load the vista boot manager, so if grub is already running and vista won't boot, you are missing the windows boot manager.  I misunderstood.  i apologise
[17:05] <newdev> mzz: i guess it is! :)
[17:06] <newdev> mzz: any idea if gartral is around?
[17:06] <mzz> newdev: well, he was about 10 minutes ago.
[17:06] <NoMS> nasso: sure
[17:06] <vk_123> mzz, do i use the "modelname" in the xorg.conf as the display  in the firefox -P -no-remote          command
[17:06] <gartral> newdev: right here
[17:06] <newdev> hi
[17:06] <newdev> i just pm-ed you\
[17:07] <mzz> vk_123: just do whatever you're doing that's currently triggering that error message
[17:07] <mzz> vk_123: (I'm not sure how you're managing stuff on two displays)
[17:07] <userone> NoMS: ok, so if i install the missing bootmgr from the vista recovery disk, will this overwrite my grub, or just put the bootmgr in mbr, which should be on the first 512k of the disk?
[17:07] <thanda> What is the best method to wipe out the hard drive?
[17:07] <vk_123> mzz: you said to add the display name to that command right?
[17:07] <jacquesdupontd> hey hoy yo
[17:07] <nasso> NoMS, it looks like i have to manually add all my movies to the database :/
[17:07] <mzz> vk_123: I'd expect it to be DISPLAY=:0 vs DISPLAY=:1 or something similar, but it's been ages since I messed with something like this.
[17:07] <vk_123> ahh
[17:07] <thanda> I personally went with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx
[17:08] <mzz> vk_123: you should not have to do this explicitly, unless you're already doing it explicitly when triggering the error message.
[17:08] <NoMS> nasso: yes, it won't read the iso files and pull it.  I'm not sure of an automatic program.  maybe someone could write you a script
[17:08] <vk_123> mzz: so the command would be 'firefox -P -no-remote Display=:1
[17:08] <NoMS> userone:  if you reinstall the bootmgr from vista, it will put it on the mbr and erase grub.  Not real sure how to fix your problem my friend...
[17:08] <nasso> NoMS, it sounds fairly advanced :P ill look to see if i find any solutions for griffith
[17:09] <ascheel> Can someone tell me what UXA and XAA are when talking about video performance?
[17:09] <linuxmen> please, can anyone tell me where i can find a wiki that shows some help on editing the ubuntu wiki pages????
[17:09] <mzz> vk_123: no, DISPLAY=... in front
[17:09] <wangqi> 那个在／
[17:09] <mzz> vk_123: (again, if at all! I don't know how you're getting things to launch on the other display normally...)
[17:10] <myroon> hi need help  with toshiba A300 , i'm trying to install my camera (built in) , how can i make it work?
[17:10] <thanda> what you people will recommend for wiping the hard drives
[17:10] <mmaher> thanda: shred
[17:10] <mzz> ascheel: different internal acceleration apis used by the driver. Which is faster varies between driver versions. Consider sticking with the default unless you have a good reason not to.
[17:10] <mmaher> thanda: 30 times :D
[17:10] <ascheel> thanks, mzz.  :)
[17:10] <vk_123> mzz can you elaborate more on where to stick the DISPLAY=:1 argument in the command. sorry i'm pretty noob
[17:11] <ascheel> mzz, where can you see (and possibly change) between them?
[17:11] <trakcyia> I would like audacious to handle .m3u files. How do I set that?
[17:11] <mzz> vk_123: you shouldn't need to specify that explicitly, unless you already were. I do not *know* how you're currently launching things on the second display. I know you need to pass -P to firefox, but I don't know how you're telling it to appear on the other display.
[17:11] <mzz> ascheel: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:12] <Sylphid|work> hey all, Ive been looking at getting a 10" netbook for a while an i have my short list... anyone have any input on any of these 3 models ... Asus 1005HA, Samsun N120, Toshiba NB205
[17:12] <mzz> ascheel: notice uxa is only supported by recentish versions of the intel driver, not other drivers, I'm pretty sure
[17:12] <thanda> mmaher: I used dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx once, on 500 GB drive and it took 25 hours...
[17:12] <ascheel> mzz, thanks again!
[17:13] <mzz> vk_123: (consider telling me how you're currently trying to launch it on the second display...)
[17:13] <thanda> mmaher: Do you think that is enough? Should I write zeros once more...
[17:13] <mzz> vk_123: alternatively, try launching a term on the second display, then just running "firefox -P" in there
[17:13] <vk_123> mzz: when i launch firefox on either display i do it from either typing firefox in a terminal window or from a panel icon
[17:13] <mzz> vk_123: try "echo $DISPLAY" in a terminal on both displays. I'd expect the value to differ.
[17:14] <vk_123> i got it to work!
[17:14] <vk_123> firefox -P opened a gui tool to create a new profile. i just quickly typed in a new one and bingo firefox on both x's
[17:15] <Lasivian> if I wanted to get a "dead tree" paper book for Ubuntu, which one do you guys recommend?
[17:15] <SlimG> Would a partial media failture potentially ruin a RAID6 array just as it would with a RAID5 array?
[17:15] <kannan02> moncky: vim editor is working great thank you so much....
[17:15] <Lasivian> SlimG: "Partial" media failure?
[17:15] <SlimG> Lasivian: yes
[17:16] <vk_123> mzz: i got it to work! firefox -P started a gui which let me create a new profile. after making it i can now open fire fox on each separate x display
[17:16] <Lasivian> SlimG: Raid6 can survive even if 2 drives fail, Raid5 can survive one drive failure, i'm not sure what kind of failure you are talking about
[17:17] <mzz> vk_123: "firefox -P nameofprofile" works too
[17:17] <mzz> (so you can bypass that profile manager window)
[17:17] <SlimG> Lasivian: Partial media failure: when drives start to return garbage (http://miracleas.com/BAARF/RAID5_versus_RAID10.txt)
[17:17] <vk_123> mzz: i was actually just wondering how i would do that lol. thanks a lot man
[17:18] <Lasivian> SlimG: it would depend on the raid controller and it's ability to fix sector issues
[17:18] <dubba> hi - i tried installing ubuntu 9.04, but the X server failed to start with code -11; any clues?
[17:18] <Lasivian> SlimG: I suggest 3Ware, but they are very expensive, if this is for home use just mirror instead
[17:18] <SlimG> Lasivian: software raid (mdadm)
[17:19] <linuxmen> please, can anyone tell me where i can find a wiki that shows some help on editing the ubuntu wiki pages????
[17:19] <kamil> hi guys
[17:19] <linuxmen> can anyone gimme some light, or some hint where i can find the answer
[17:19] <Lasivian> yes, but partial media failure is a hardware issue, not a software one
[17:20] <Lasivian> SlimG: If your controller is not reporting bad sectors the software is not going to stop using them
[17:20] <llml> not know well about qt. when i am trying to build OProfile 0.9.5 with GUI support, i was asked to provide --with-qt-{dir,includes,libraries}, how can i make sure where does these lib/header/dir exist? if not exist, which package should i install in advance?
[17:21] <SlimG> thanks for the info Lasivian
[17:21] <kamil> I would like to modify my GRUB I have a lot of kernels in the boot table and I want to delete some of them but I'm not sure how
[17:21] <kamil> sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:21] <mzz> kamil: consider uninstalling those kernels (menu.lst will automatically be updated)
[17:22] <kamil> mzz: one problem though
[17:22] <llml> Could anyone please help me about the problem about Qt mentioned above?
[17:22] <kamil> mzz: the newest kernel I have is not working
[17:22] <mzz> kamil: ok, consider uninstalling that one then, or uninstalling all but the most recent two kernels
[17:23] <bruce927> Hi, when I boot up 9.04, it always asks me for my password for the keychain for the wifi password. How can I make it remember it?
[17:23] <kamil> mzz: how can I do that
[17:23] <mzz> llml: are you sure you need to build your own oprofile?
[17:23] <kamil> mzz : ?
[17:23] <mzz> kamil: I haven't figured out the best way to do that yet, although someone recommended "startup-manager" the other day. You can just manually uninstall them through your favorite apt frontend (synaptics, apt-get, aptitude, whatever)
[17:24] <kamil> mzz: OK
[17:24] <kamil> mzz: thanks
[17:24] <llml> mzz: yes, OProfile 0.9.3 included in the ubuntu repos has a bug, which i've suffered from
[17:24] <kamil> mzz: just remove them with apt and reboot and thats it ?
[17:25] <bruce927> any idea how I make it remember the password?
[17:25] <jeeves_Moss> is there idle support for evoulition?
[17:25] <user_corrupt> i recently installed ubuntu, and when I boot it, grub wont let me boot from disk instead (my cd is fine, and boot order is correct) and furthermore, ubuntu doesnt boot right, and tells me that I have to run fsck manually....all I really wanna do is delete grub so that I can install something else....any tips?
[17:25] <llml> mzz: it's confired by the OProfile mentainer, and fixed in 0.9.4 release
[17:26] <kpuhek> I have a compaq v2000 laptop, and since installing ubuntu 9.04 I can't turn the wireless on.  My wired connection works, which is how I'm typing in this room.  I've tried several fixes from the forums, to no avail.  It seems that the drivers are installed, but when I press the wireless button, it won't light up.  I did a clean install of ubuntu, so windows isn't causing the issue.  The card did work in windows, before I installed ubuntu.
[17:27] <mzz> llml: try finding a ppa with a newer oprofile package. If you really do need to build your own you probably need the libqt4-dev package.
[17:27] <bruce927> What software do I need to install to successfully compile software from source?
[17:27] <jeeves_Moss> is there idle support for evoulition?
[17:27] <fluurp> my screensaver wont run :(
[17:27] <grawity> jeeves_Moss: You mean IMAP IDLE?
[17:27] <jeeves_Moss> bruce927, what are you trying to compile?
[17:27] <llml> mzz: libqt4-dev already installed
[17:27] <bruce927> amsn
[17:28] <jeeves_Moss> grawity, yes.  I have a few clients, and they're hammering the IMAP server
[17:28] <bruce927> the one in the repositories is buggy as heck
[17:28] <mzz> llml: then either you need qt3 instead of qt4 or you need to find the right path to point oprofile at. Sorry, no time to dig right now.
[17:28] <jeeves_Moss> bruce927, try "apt-get install make gcc g++"
[17:28] <yosef> well I'll be
[17:28] <mzz> jeeves_Moss: you might want build-essentials instead of listing those by hand
[17:28] <llml> mzz: okey, thanks anyway
[17:28] <jeeves_Moss> bruce927, have you tried installing it from the repo?
[17:28] <grawity> jeeves_Moss: It does support IDLE, but I'm not sure if it automatically enables that.
[17:28] <Ockonal> join #gentoo
[17:29] <jeeves_Moss> mzz, thanks.  I was drawing a blank.  I'm on 26 hours of no sleep
[17:29] <jeeves_Moss> grawity, any idea where it'd be in Evoulition?  I know the server supports it and it's turned on
[17:29] <guntbert> !compile | bruce927
[17:30] <kpuhek> I have a compaq v2000 laptop, and since installing ubuntu 9.04 I can't turn the wireless on.  My wired connection works, which is how I'm typing in this room.  I've tried several fixes from the forums, to no avail.  It seems that the drivers are installed, but when I press the wireless button, it won't light up.  I did a clean install of ubuntu, so windows isn't causing the issue.  The card did work in windows, before I installed ubuntu.
[17:30] <bruce927> I tried the repo amsn, it was too buggy
[17:30] <bruce927> and yes, it is now obvious that I needed make. Feel rather stupid now :P
[17:31] <jeeves_Moss> bruce927, we've all been there @ one point in our lives
[17:32] <CrocoJet> hi for all ! Exist some risk to install firefox 3.5 from backport server ? Also, Other version 3.0.13 will be un-installed ?
[17:32] <mayajowo> help me install macromedia
[17:32] <bruce927> Also, is there a way to make the menu bar act more like the os x one? So the menus of programs go up there?
[17:32] <Link> aye bruce927, i just spent 3 hrs trying to fix the video card only to realize the readme explicitely says it dont work with ubuntu 9.04 -.-
[17:32] <evilbug> can anyone tell me what the type-in format is for exaile's global hotkey plugin?
[17:32] <kpuhek> any help on the wireless?  I'm sure I'm just missing something simple, but I've tried everything I can think of.  I'm new to ubuntu, so that doesn't help.
[17:33] <mzz> kpuhek: depending on how new that laptop is it's entirely possible for it to be a kernel-level bug, as I've recently discovered.
[17:33] <kpuhek> it's pretty old
[17:33] <yosef> strange
[17:33] <mzz> kpuhek: so I recommend you search for others with the same laptop having the same problem. You might need a different kernel to make it work.
[17:33] <mzz> kpuhek: *might* though, don't go trying different kernels for no good reason
[17:33] <mayajowo> test
[17:33] <CrocoJet> kpuhek, hi ! did you put gateway ip (router) and correct dns primary and secundary ?
[17:34] <grawity> jeeves_Moss: Nope, apparently Evolution does not support IDLE. (Which is rather strange.)
[17:34] <grawity> jeeves_Moss: I assume switching to another client wouldn't work?
[17:34] <jeeves_Moss> grawity, yea,  I just found that.  I'm not impressed
[17:34] <mayajowo> gprs
[17:35] <bruce927> my sound's just started crackling :S
[17:35] <kpuhek> Hi crocojet...I can't access the network to configure it.  The wireless card won't even turn on.
[17:35] <afink> Hello everyone,  I have a really general question.  I just switched to Ubuntu yesterday (love it!)  I noticed when I ping my apache server it returns all of my vhosts in order.  Is this the expected behavior?
[17:35] <jeeves_Moss> grawity, I put Ubuntu on the netbooks for these sales guys so they can't kill them as easily.  after the 15 of them wrote off $1,200 IBM laptops, I said enough.
[17:35] <afink> or not my vhosts but rather all the corresponding dns entries for this server
[17:36] <jeeves_Moss> grawity, $400, and they signed a waiver that if they kill it in under the year, they replace it out of their own pocket
[17:36] <user_corrupt> i have a secondary drive mounted in Ubuntu, and I would like to format it....how do I do that?
[17:36] <mr_lou> To anyone having problems with DVD burning apps ignoring the write-speed you set: I've been struggling with it all day till I finally found out, that the cause is the discs. I bought some other discs, and they work fine. My write-speed setting is not ignored with those. There are many posts on various forums about this issue, but none that reveals that it's a disc issue, so if you're an expert-helper here you might want to take a note of t
[17:36] <mr_lou> his. I think the problem is the non-integer write-speed of 2.4x speed of those discs.
[17:36] <gwildor> afink, its what i normally see, not shure if its normally. but its what i get
[17:36] <bruce927> Any idea what might be causing that? It's rather random
[17:36] <guntbert> !wireless | kpuhek, you have seen
[17:36] <CrocoJet> kpuhek, what is your notebook or laptop ?
[17:37] <phalk> i've installed bind9 on my ubuntu 8.10, added two local domains with reverse. i also set up a local irc server for testing purposes, and for fun, but whenever i connect to it using my local domain, the reverse doesn't seem to work. i've posted my domain files and reverse here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252529/
[17:37] <kpuhek> Ya, I've been through all that, and 3 different fixes on the forums for the broadcom chipset.  no luck so far.  I have a compaq v2000
[17:37] <newdev> thanks for all the help guys!
[17:37] <newdev> have a nice day!
[17:37] <newdev> bye! :D
[17:38] <kpuhek> near as I can tell, the system is recognizing the card, but it won't switch on from the external button.
[17:38] <Halitech> user_corrupt, unmount it and use partition editor
[17:38] <user_corrupt> thanks
[17:38] <Sylphid|work> hey all, Ive been looking at getting a 10" netbook for a while an i have my short list... anyone have any input on any of these 3 models ... Asus 1005HA, Samsun N120, Toshiba NB205
[17:38] <pharsalus> bruce927, Did you ever find out how to make ubuntu remember the keychain password?
[17:39] <guntbert> kpuhek: we don't know what you have been through already, so there must be duplicates - what shows in syslog when you press the wifi button?
[17:39] <bruce927> No I didn't. I'd really like it to, save me entering the password when I log in
[17:39] <kpuhek> I'm not sure.  how do I check that?
[17:39] <mzz> !best | Sylphid|work
[17:40] <mzz> (applies to hardware too :P)
[17:40] <kpuhek> I'm sorry, im' new to ubuntu, so I don't really know what I'm doing yet.
[17:40] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[17:40] <pharsalus> I've got the same 'issue', it's annoying. Gonna do some research, I'll get back to you if I find anything.
[17:40] <mzz> Sylphid|work: generally I recommend you google the models and/or individual components to see if there are reports of people not getting it to work with linux
[17:40] <bruce927> cheers pharsalus
[17:41] <guntbert> kpuhek: open a terminal, type tail -f /var/log/syslog and  look while you are pressing the wifi button (you end that with ctrl+c), btw if you are talking to a particular person put the nick in front, so they get highlighted
[17:42] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[17:42] <CrocoJet> why new firefox 3.5 is called "shiretoko" ?
[17:42] <kpuhek> guntber: ok, thanks.  I'll try that.
[17:42] <grawity> !ff35
[17:42] <bruce927> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281&highlight=networkmanager pharsalus, this should help
[17:42] <The_Warlock> is there a wat to create a live USB stick for ubuntu?
[17:43] <grawity> CrocoJet: See the link above. "Shiretoko" was the codename of 3.5, and in http://is.gd/1reB3 there is an explanation why it isn't called "Firefox".
[17:43] <The_Warlock> way*
[17:43] <guntbert> !tab | kpuhek, to make typing the nicks easier
[17:43] <mickster04> The_Warlock, yeah system>admin>usb...
[17:43] <grawity> The_Warlock: usb-creator
[17:43] <The_Warlock> mickster04: i am on  a mac now. so can i do it from a mac  i.e create a live usb?
[17:44] <LoneWlf> pharsalus : I'm sorry, did you say you were having my same issue?
[17:44] <mickster04> The_Warlock, there may e instructions on the website? i dont know sorry
[17:44] <einonono> I am on a live-cd at the moment, there is one hard disk drive on my computer that I want to format properly, so that any of the data cannot be recovered. How can I do that?
[17:45] <kpuhek> guntbert: ok, did what you said and when I push the button, it doesn't do anything.
[17:45] <mickster04> einonono, in installation u can format stuff beforehand?
[17:45] <Halitech> The_Warlock, you can run the live cd and use the usb creator I believe
[17:45] <The_Warlock> hmmmm....
[17:45] <mickster04> Halitech, ha of course:D why didnt i think of that
[17:45] <einonono> mickster04 but data can be recovered after that right_
[17:45] <Halitech> einonono, use the partition editor to format it
[17:45] <einonono> ?
[17:46] <einonono> halitech will it be secure? there is some high-security files in the drive and Im selling it
[17:46] <mickster04> einonono, well u will have to get a special security program then surely? if u wanna remove any andall traces?
[17:46] <guntbert> kpuhek: that looks as if the system didn't recognize the switch...  strange, let me think
[17:46] <einonono> mickster04 yes, what would be such program?
[17:46] <mickster04> einonono, no idea
[17:46] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[17:47] <Halitech> einonono, there is shred, ultimate boot cd has darins nuke that is a secure wipe program (I think its on the UBCD)
[17:47] <einonono> I
[17:47] <einonono> ill try shred
[17:47] <kpuhek> guntbert: from what I've seen in the forums and such , it seems that the issues with Broadcom wireless stuff started with the upgrade to 9.04.  Would I be better off downloading and installing 8 instead?
[17:47] <stz184> i am giving away invites for fonera+ rooter
[17:47] <guntbert> kpuhek: just to make certain: you saw about 10 lines of that log file displayed though?
[17:47] <grawity> einonono: shred -uzn 1 yourfile
[17:47] <Halitech> einonono, nope, sorry you can get it here http://www.dban.org/
[17:47] <kpuhek> guntbert: yes
[17:47] <phalk> kpuhek: reboot your computer, go in BIOS and switch on "enable lan on boot" or something like that, and if you have a connected wired cable, remove it. save setting, boot up and voilà
[17:48] <einonono> halitech I tried booting and formatting with dban, but it didnt work for some reason
[17:48] <rski> bitdepth 16 in xorg.conf causes gdm to stop functioning
[17:48] <kpuhek> phalk: ok, I'll give it a try.  thanks!
[17:48] <rski> is it still possible to run X in 16bit?
[17:48] <rski> i really need it.
[17:49] <Sargun> How do I set PPP options (like DNS) via wvdial?
[17:49] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[17:49] <Halitech> einonono, did it give you an error?
[17:49] <phalk> kpuhek: friend of mine had exact same problem, worked for him. alltho he didnt remove the wired cable first so bootup froze
[17:49] <einonono> halitech it said that there was non-fatal errors that are usually caused by bad sectors
[17:49] <wild_oscar> hey! I was just installing tomcat6's Ubuntu jaunty packages - does anyone know why it only logs to syslog, not catalina.out, and how to revert it?
[17:49] <guntbert> kpuhek: about installing 8.10: if the hardware switch isn't recognized I doubt if that could be a version problem, but try phalk's idea
[17:50] <fccf> Sargun: config file /etc/wvdial.conf
[17:50] <Halitech> einonono, sounds like the drive is almost toast then, take it out and drive a spike through it
[17:50] <Sargun> fccf, What directive in there would I set for "nodefaultroute"
[17:50] <einonono> Halitech: I am using the drive in windows
[17:50] <einonono> dont know what you are talking about
[17:50] <mickster04> einonono, he means he thinks ur hdd is dying
[17:51] <einonono> but if you dont know what you yourself are talking about, please dont "advice" other people
[17:51] <einonono> mickster04: dying? works fine with windows
[17:51] <Brenden> hi all.  Any vim users out there?  what does it mean when vim displays a bunch of ^@ characters? I thought I added newlines to the buffer...
[17:51] <Halitech> einonono, if the drive has bad sectors its only a matter of time before it dies, if you are selling it anyway, take the drive out of the machine, hit it with a hammer, no way of getting data off it then
[17:51] <mickster04> einonono, well the error message suggest not all is well
[17:51] <einonono> Halitech: fuck you are stupid :D
[17:51] <mickster04> Halitech, he wants to sell it as workin ;)
[17:52] <guntbert> !ohmy | einonono
[17:52] <mickster04> einonono, it would be irrisponsible to sell a dyoiing drive as working
[17:52] <Halitech> einonono, whatever, I'm not the one ignoring an error message
[17:52] <mickster04> dying*
[17:52] <Halitech> mickster04, sounds like a shady sales person to me ;)
[17:52] <einonono> why would it be dying if it has bad sectors?
[17:53] <mickster04> Halitech, da...the type that give ebay a bad name
[17:53] <jussi01> this is well offtopic for ubuntu
[17:53] <fccf> Sargun: have you looked @ man wvdial.conf and man wvdial ... other than that google is your friend
[17:53] <einonono> it works like new in windows
[17:53] <Halitech> mickster04, yup
[17:53] <Sargun> fccf, Heh, I'm not a 'tard :-P
[17:53] <jussi01> Please move this discussion elsewhere.
[17:53] <einonono> halitech you are just lying, i know it
[17:53] <jussi01> einonono: you have been asked
[17:53] <mickster04> einonono, research it urself
[17:54] <mickster04> jussi01, i know
[17:54] <Halitech> einonono, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector
[17:54] <Halitech> ok, I'm done talking about it, sorry
[17:54] <gwildor> einonono, maybe the bad soctors are NOT in the windows partition
[17:54] <jussi01> Ok, back on topic please!
[17:55] <einonono> gwildor there is only a windows partition
[17:55] <einonono> how does fsck work?
[17:55] <mickster04> leave it now, discussion has been ended :P there is a problem with the hdd end of
[17:55] <Brenden> fsck works pretty well, I think.
[17:55] <einonono> obviously there isnt but what ever
[17:57] <mickster04> anyone unsolved?
[17:58] <phalk> my question has been ignored 3 times :p or ppl dont have a clue hehe
[17:58] <Halitech> einonono, you know, if you don't like what we are saying, go talk to someone in #windows and have them tell you the drive is fine, we've given our suggestions on your drive
[17:58] <grawity> phalk: A rule of IRC: If nobody answers - nobody knows.
[17:59] <einonono> halitech you just suggested that I run a spike through my hdd
[17:59] <jussi01> Halitech: we asked it to end! Leave it now please.
[17:59] <einonono> besides you were told to end the discussion
[17:59] <grawity> phalk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu help channel; maybe ##linux will be better.
[17:59]  * mickster04 knows he cant help phalk
[17:59] <phalk> grawity: well bind9 is still a part of ubuntu? :p
[18:00] <jussi01> phalk: there may be people in ##linux who are not here, and know the answer
[18:00] <phalk> jussi01: allright i'll try to ask there
[18:00] <grawity> phalk: bind9 is part of a lot of distros. People in ##linux are usually more experienced with that kind of things.
[18:01] <guntbert> phalk: what does " whenever i connect to it using my local domain, the reverse doesn't seem to work." mean? how do you connect?
[18:01] <phalk> guntbert: i connect via irssi.. "irssi -h example.com"
[18:02] <mickster04> anyone use spotify in wine?
[18:02] <mickster04> i tried #winehq an they were forthcoming...
[18:02] <guntbert> phalk: I see, but you certainly don't use example.com, do you?
[18:02] <mickster04> werent*
[18:03] <phalk> guntbert: no ofc not, i made two local domains phox.lan and remi.lan
[18:03] <jMyles> So I recently switched to 16-bit depth as it drastically improves performance.  Since compiz didn't work properly in 16-bit, I decided to try switching to xfce, which is pretty fun.  However, now, with either gnome or xfce, video doesn't play properly.  It is just green.
[18:03] <guntbert> phalk: try dig phox.lan
[18:04] <phalk> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252633/
[18:04] <unperson> I just got a new computer, and I want to test stability under load.  Any suggestions for programs I can quickly apt-get install that will provide a good test (use up a lot of CPU and RAM)?
[18:04] <Winkie> jMyles: sounds like it's using an overlay method, try changing your renderer from xv to x11 or similar
[18:04] <jondavis_> i would like to know if there is a program that i can use to talk to outhere people and when thay did not say what thay said so i can play it back to them
[18:05] <jondavis_> plese read what i said
[18:05] <Kelder> unperson: only one i know is hardinfo (sudo apt-get install hardinfo) i believe it has some tests in there
[18:05] <Winkie> unperson: i don't know any off by heart but just forkbomb your machine and watch it explode
[18:05] <kid> kget or multiget, which one is better? or if u know any download manager which is better
[18:05] <guntbert> phalk: and now dig -x  192.168.1.64 please
[18:05] <Winkie> guntbert: nice pick of ip there, that's our gateway :D
[18:05] <Halitech> unperson, you could convert a movie, its pretty intensive
[18:05] <grawity> jondavis_: Generally, such things are only possible if there is a third person who has a copy of the logfiles.
[18:05] <phalk> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252636/
[18:05] <Kelder> unperson: (hwinfo is the cli version, hardinfo the gui one)
[18:06] <grawity> Winkie: Now don't tell me you use 127.0.0.1 too ;)
[18:06] <Winkie> grawity: omg we are like brothers
[18:06] <jondavis_> i nned it to have it for a home phone
[18:06] <Winkie> jondavis_: use asterisk
[18:06] <jMyles> Winkie: xv is just a solid color, no video.  x11 displays the video, but with a strange blue hue
[18:06] <guntbert> phalk: I see, let me think
[18:06] <grawity> jondavis_: It's for a voice phone? Then I think any sound recorder could work.
[18:06] <Winkie> jMyles: then i'm afraid that is beyond my expertise sorry
[18:06] <jondavis_> what is it and is it for free
[18:06] <Winkie> jondavis_: asterisk is an open source telephony platform
[18:07] <jMyles> WInkie: No problem.  I haven't really done the proper googling.  :-)
[18:07] <jondavis_> where can i get it
[18:07] <addisonj> quick question, has been a while since i have looked is compiz supported under VMware?
[18:07] <Winkie> jondavis_:
[18:07] <Winkie> http://tinyurl.com/58n5wu
[18:07] <mickster04> whats wrong with skype?
[18:07] <Kelder> directx under vm is still dodgy
[18:07] <Winkie> mickster04: it's non free
[18:07] <Halitech> mickster04, its not open source ;)
[18:07] <jondavis_> where can i get this program
[18:07] <mickster04> Winkie, non free? define
[18:07] <Winkie> jondavis_: click my link
[18:08] <Kelder> mickster04: also, its a p2p system which a lot of people do not realize
[18:08] <Winkie> mickster04: it is not released under a license ratified as either adhering to DFSG or other similar free license checks
[18:08] <jondavis_> give me the link
[18:08] <libtech> it works, doesnt it?
[18:08] <Winkie> mickster04: that is, you are not granted freedoms to take, modify and distribute
[18:08] <jondavis_> i need it for ubuntu linux 9.04
[18:08] <mickster04> Winkie, oooh ok
[18:08] <Winkie> mickster04: asterisk is completely open, and works with open and free codecs, through open and free standards :)
[18:09] <Winkie> mickster04: if you don't want to put your telephony in the hands of a company you can't trust, you use asterisk
[18:09] <Winkie> imho
[18:09] <mickster04> Winkie, yeah ok
[18:09] <grawity> I wouldn't say closed-source is bad by itself. But Skype has a history of...well, google for "skype china" -- _that_ is what's wrong with Skype.
[18:09] <jondavis_> i nned the link plese
[18:09] <[ThOr]> I want a graphist, motived for participe a frensh project ( websites )
[18:09] <RanyAlbeg> I did a mistake and executed the following rm -R /usr/shar/pixmaps/ ...is there a way to restore it /
[18:09] <Winkie> jondavis_: i pasted it to you, try using google
[18:09] <[ThOr]> I want a graphist, motived for participe a frensh project ( websites )
[18:09] <Winkie> RanyAlbeg: short story: no
[18:09] <[ThOr]> I want a graphist, motived for participe a frensh project ( websites )
[18:09] <Winkie> RanyAlbeg: long story: please use backups
[18:09] <[ThOr]> oups im sorry
[18:10] <jondavis_> you did not give me the link
[18:10] <Winkie> RanyAlbeg: you can PROBABLY find using something like apt-file, every package which has a pixmap in that location, and then reinstall them
[18:10] <phalk> guntbert: do you need to see the config files?
[18:10] <guntbert> phalk: I saw them, thank you
[18:10] <Winkie> jondavis_: 18:14.01 < Winkie> http://tinyurl.com/58n5wu
[18:10] <phalk> guntbert: ok
[18:10] <guntbert> phalk: but I'm at a loss here, maybe ask in #dns
[18:11] <unperson> Kelder, Halitech, Winkie:  Thanks for the suggestions.  What about distributed computing tasks (protein folding, etc.)?  I guess maybe they're not apt-getable.
[18:11] <Winkie> guntbert: can you explain this problem?
[18:11] <phalk> guntbert: allright, thanks anyway
[18:11] <Winkie> unperson: i would imagine they are, although i have yet to run one, my electricity bills are severe enough already :)
[18:11] <guntbert> Winkie: I beg your pardon?
[18:11] <Winkie> or phalk
[18:11] <Winkie> guntbert: trying to help out with phalk's problem :)
[18:11] <jedc> Winkie: lol, i clicked the random link :p
[18:11] <Winkie> jedc: not a random link, an informative link :)
[18:12] <jedc> Winkie: random from my perspective, coming in on the middle of the convo
[18:12] <Halitech> unperson, don't think so
[18:12] <brandonc503> hey all what would be a good channel to ask about what kind of laptop i want to buy?
[18:12] <Winkie> jedc: haha i guess so
[18:12] <Halitech> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:12] <jondavis_> ok if i downlound this program will it work with my telephone home phone so i can at home
[18:12] <Winkie> brandonc503: perhaps a technology review site, such as arstechnica or bittech etc?
[18:12] <Winkie> jondavis_: please talk to people in #asterisk
[18:13] <phalk> Winkie: i've setup bind9 server, made two local domains (phox.lan, remi.lan) and i made reverse files for them also, but i can't make the reverse work (connecting to my local ircd server with irssi -h phox.lan)
[18:13] <unperson> Winkie, Well this is for my research group at the university, so I don't pay the bill.  :-D
[18:13] <jondavis_> you nned to tell me
[18:13] <jondavis_> you are the one who is givening it to me
[18:13] <Kelder> unperson: if there are more comprehensive benchmarking utilities in the repositories I have not used them, so Google will be of more use to you than I, but good luck
[18:13] <Winkie> jondavis_: there are many people who have time to explain this to you, and this channel is for ubuntu only, not for asterisk
[18:13] <Winkie> phalk: right, can you show me your zone files / give me appropriate information?
[18:14] <phalk> Winkie: yes, just a second
[18:14] <Winkie> phalk: i'll need the segments out of your named.conf specifying the zones, the zonefiles, and what specifically you cannot look up locally
[18:14] <mickster04> jondavis_, you will get more comprehensive help in #asterisk
[18:14] <frenky> hi
[18:14] <mickster04> hi
[18:14] <mickster04> :D
[18:14] <unperson> Kelder, Well I don't need to benchmark so much as I want to stress test.  I actually thought maybe I should just start compiling the kernel or something.  Anyway, I appreciate your input.
[18:15] <mickster04> is it just me or has it gone quiet?
[18:15] <jedc> everyones problems must be solved!
[18:16] <mickster04> huzzah!
[18:16] <jMyles> WInkie: How can I change totem from x11 to xv?
[18:17] <nztal> jMyles, i think its gstreamer-properties
[18:17] <HackersDavid> comman install steam
[18:17] <Winkie> jMyles: i really don't know i'm afraid
[18:18] <radioman-lt> ;]
[18:18] <jedc> ls
[18:18] <jedc> oops
[18:18] <The_Warlock> how can i get an IMG for karmic koala alpha 3?
[18:18] <HackersDavid> ok
[18:18] <nztal> jMyles, did you try gstreamer-properties in a terminal
[18:18] <sash_> The_Warlock:  google karmic download and download it.
[18:18] <guntbert> !karmic | The_Warlock
[18:18] <einonono> or maybe you just give shit answers fags :D
[18:19] <mickster04> HackersDavid, what was that?
[18:19] <mickster04> einonono, less of that
[18:19] <guntbert> !attitude | einonono
[18:19] <HackersDavid> hackersdavid login
[18:19] <phalk> Winkie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252643/
[18:19] <jMyles> nztal:  Yep, that was it.  :-)
[18:19] <The_Warlock> sash_: i dont see a IMG for usb..i only see iso's
[18:20] <einonono> penis
[18:20] <jondavis_> i am not sure what this program is.and i need a program that will let me let outher people who are talking to and when thay did not say what thay said to me i can play it back to then
[18:20] <mickster04> HackersDavid, steam games are available through wine?
[18:20] <Winkie> phalk: your problem is the specification of the prefix in the PTR file
[18:20] <guntbert> The_Warlock: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:20] <jedc> The_Warlock: you can use System->Administration->USB startup disk creator to set up a usb with an iso
[18:20] <phalk> Winkie: what should it be?
[18:20] <mickster04> jondavis_, you need a microphone and a audio tape....
[18:20] <mickster04> an audio*
[18:20] <jondavis_> i want a program
[18:21] <The_Warlock> jedc: tnx
[18:21] <Winkie> phalk: it should be the only missing octet, give me a second to give you a real world example
[18:21] <mickster04> jondavis_, well sound recorder work with a microfone on ur system too:P
[18:22] <jondavis_> what
[18:22] <jedc> jondavis_: with a little work you could probably set something up with audacity or something, i doubt there is a program specifically for your purposes
[18:22] <mickster04> jondavis_, sound and multimedia>sound recorder
[18:22] <jondavis_> do yall know what i need
[18:22] <jedc> jondavis_: no
[18:23] <Halitech> jondavis_, you want to record your conversations over the phone (illegal in some countries without permission)
[18:24] <jondavis_> i dont care that is what i need to do
[18:24] <mickster04> jondavis_, explain the situation clearly and try to spell clearly
[18:24] <guntbert> phalk, Winkie: but in http://paste.ubuntu.com/252529/ that was correct, wasn't it?
[18:24] <mickster04> jondavis_, we probably wont help u perform illigal activities
[18:24] <Halitech> jondavis_, go pick up a mini tape recorder from walmart
[18:24] <winstonw> hi I can't seem to get my sansa clip to reliably mount using mtp
[18:24] <mickster04> jondavis_, u dont need a program
[18:24] <benovic> arch arch arch arch
[18:24] <jondavis_> i dont need that
[18:24] <Winkie> guntbert: that looks good at first glance
[18:24] <benovic> now i got it
[18:25] <Winkie> guntbert: should use @ instead of the fqn for SOAs etc
[18:25] <jondavis_> i need it for my home phone
[18:25] <gwildor> mickster04, in most states of the usa, only 1 party has to be aware for it to be legal
[18:25] <mickster04> jondavis_, why dont you need a tape recorder
[18:25] <guntbert> Winkie: thats why I didn't see the problem :-)
[18:26] <guntbert> Winkie: you've got a quick eye! congrats :-)
[18:26] <mickster04> gwildor, i dont really know about the legalities of stuff like that
[18:26] <gwildor> mickster04, was just trying to help you, help him
[18:27] <jedc> guntbert: i wonder about interstate communication with a state where it is illegal?
[18:27] <mickster04> gwildor, well its ok, just if it is illegal we probably souldnt promote it (cough piracy cough)
[18:27] <Halitech> phone recordering laws http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws
[18:27] <guntbert> jedc: you meant gwildor probably :-)
[18:27] <jedc> er, gwildor i guess
[18:27] <jedc> guntbert: :p
[18:28] <Zxcvb> what fps is good for extreme tux racer on a 945gme graphics card?
[18:28] <gwildor> jedc, that im not certain.... probaably illegal in that case... and a federal felony...
[18:28] <Risalat> Need some help on OS
[18:28] <Risalat> anyone?
[18:28] <MadGirl> anyone is probably using xorg-server with USE=minimal?
[18:28] <gwildor> Risalat, just ask your question
[18:28] <mickster04> OS?
[18:28] <Risalat> yeah thanks
[18:29] <mickster04> define OS?
[18:29] <Risalat> I just installed ubuntu
[18:29] <Risalat> now i can't find windows xp
[18:29] <Risalat> what to do
[18:29] <guntbert> phalk: when did you change your reverse file? you posted two different versions
[18:29] <mickster04> Risalat, u didnt format over it did u?
[18:29] <Risalat> no no
[18:29] <Risalat> i did not
[18:29] <Halitech> jondavis_, 2 options I see, use a mic connected to your computer and use sound recorder (or audacity) to record it, or get a mini tape recorder. if the mic doesn't work on your computer, go with the tape recorder
[18:29] <Risalat> i did not touch that partition
[18:30] <mickster04> Risalat, ok well i dont have a dual boot atm so cant show u my menu.lst but u need to add the item in there
[18:30]  * Decadent greeds everyone
[18:30] <Halitech> Risalat, use pastebin to post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:30] <jedc> Risalat: was ubuntu the only option show in the bootloader?
[18:30] <mickster04> !grub | Risalat
[18:31] <Halitech> !paste | Risalat
[18:31] <Risalat> wait wait
[18:31] <flanders> Even though I'm running Linux Mint 7, since it's based off Ubuntu, I thought someone in here might help with this small issue I am having.
[18:31] <guntbert> !derivatives | flanders
[18:32] <flanders> Basically, I have a laptop with a built-in wireless adapter: BCM4311. When I installed the proprietary driver for it, it shows up TWICE in my network settings.
[18:32] <flanders> Literally, I displays each wireless router two times, under two instances of BCM4311.
[18:32] <guntbert> !mintsupport | flanders
[18:33] <flanders> Wouldn't the BCM4311 wireless adapter be handled the same on both distros?
[18:33] <joakimk> I need a package (for C++) called libpqxx. sudo apt-get install libpqxx used to work, but doesn't now. How can I install this? I've found this page, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libpqxx-dev
[18:33] <Mario> hey everyone.. is there anyone here who can help me with my ubuntu install prob??
[18:33] <mickster04> !ask
[18:33] <jedc> flanders: that is probably not a problem with the adapter but with the network manager program you are using
[18:33] <flanders> Okay, then replace my question with Ubuntu 9.04 instead. :P Same issue remains.
[18:34] <rski> Hello i have 2 problems. If i change xorg.conf to have 16bit depth, gdm stops working. and if i start X manually and make it 16bit via the commandline, the audio stops to work. how to hunt from here?
[18:34] <rski> I'm quite stuck.
[18:34] <flanders> It's the default Network Manager for GNOME, jedc. I used the same one in openSUSE 11.1, and it did not give me this duplicate adapter bug.
[18:34] <mickster04> flanders, have u tried removing one?
[18:35] <flanders> If I remove the driver, it removes both.
[18:35] <flanders> If I add the driver, it duplicates the device into 2 of the same thing.
[18:35] <Mario> im tryin to dual boot ubuntu 8.10 desktop edition with vista. but when i boot from the disk it goes to the command promt and i dont know that to do frm there to install it? :(
[18:35] <scunizi> I've setup a bookmark in nautilus for a shared folder access on a server (win something). It works but I'm now interested in viewing its properties.. a simple right click only logs me into the share.. how do I view the properties of the bookmark?
[18:35] <flanders> Literally, it says I have BCM4311 and BCM4311.
[18:36] <pharsalus> Mario have you installed Ubuntu yet, or is this pre-installation?
[18:36] <jedc> Mario: are you using the normal ubuntu install disk? because it has a graphical installer
[18:36] <mickster04> Mario, did u check the disk was ok?
[18:37] <guntbert> !info libpqxx-dev | joakimk
[18:37] <Mario> pre installation.. i freed up space from one of the partitions and then tried bootin from the disk. have no idea if the disks okay
[18:37] <Mario> it just goes into the command prompt after selecting the language
[18:38] <mickster04> Mario, that sounds broken....
[18:38] <pharsalus> Is it the latest version of Ubuntu, Jaunty?
[18:38] <pharsalus> Well yeah, sounds broken anyway.
[18:38] <jedc> Mario: that sounds like a problem with the disk
[18:38] <joakimk> guntbert: Thanks! That worked :)
[18:38] <Mario> oh okie.. isnt there a way to install it from the command line itself guys?
[18:39] <mickster04> Mario, if the disk is dodgy theres little/no point
[18:39] <mickster04> it wont complete successfully problyy
[18:39] <guntbert> Mario: you said pre-installation - you are running from the install disk and then it drops you to a command line - correct?
[18:39] <jedc> Mario: if apt isnt configured yet than you probably cant do much
[18:40] <Deamos> wow..quiet today
[18:40] <Mario> i boot from the disk on start up > it loads onto memory > i select the language > then goes into the command prompt
[18:40] <Risalat> How do I find windows from boot?
[18:40] <Risalat> its not on the list
[18:41] <mickster04> Risalat, u have to add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:41] <pharsalus> Mario, sounds like broken installation media, burn another CD>
[18:41] <pharsalus> *.
[18:41] <Mario> hmm okie.. il get the latest one from my friend then :D
[18:41] <guntbert> joakimk: glad to help :-)
[18:42] <Mario> i thought it maybe somethin to do with my hardware.. in some forums i read that due to the ati graphics card the graphical installation may nto work
[18:42] <joakimk> I just installed emacs (apt-get install emacs). I can't see that any .emacs file was created -- should I simply create one myself, at ~/
[18:42] <rski> Hello i have 2 problems. If i change xorg.conf to have 16bit depth, gdm stops working. and if i start X manually and make it 16bit via the commandline, the audio stops to work. how to hunt from here?
[18:42] <mickster04> Risalat, which partition is it in?
[18:42] <guntbert> !md5sum | Mario *check*
[18:42] <Berzerker> joakimk, have you ran it yet? it might create it on run
[18:42] <jedc> joakimk: i think it will generate one when you use it
[18:43] <jazmac> Hello all
[18:43] <guntbert> Mario: those problems often come not from a bad burn but from a corrupted image
[18:43] <jedc> hi | jazmac
[18:43] <jedc> !hi | jazmac
[18:43] <joakimk> Berzerker: yes, I did, and no file appeared. Suprised at that! I've got an .emacs-d directory....
[18:43] <Mario> oh okie.. will get another copy then..
[18:43] <jazmac> Hello jedc ubottu
[18:43] <joakimk> Berzerker: .emacs.d
[18:43] <Mario> thanks guys! :P
[18:43] <Berzerker> joakimk, well then I guess you can make one
[18:43] <pharsalus> Wait, check it with MD5sum!
[18:44] <hakerpawel> Hi everyone!
[18:44] <jazmac> I am trying to isolate a video issue with my browser
[18:44] <Mario> i dint download it.. i got da disc from a friend.. he ordered da disk i guess..
[18:44] <jedc> joakimk: im looking at mine and the only thing in it is to inhibit the help message on startup, so i bet it will generate one if you click dont show me this again hehe
[18:44] <jondavis_> yes i need a program that will program from my pc thro my home phone line but i have dsl internet
[18:45] <jazmac> my webpages sometimes turn black in sections.
[18:45] <Halitech>  Risalat, use pastebin to post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:45] <jazmac> Like it has lost color on it until I refresh
[18:45] <mickster04> Risalat, "sudo fdisk -l" in terminal
[18:46] <jondavis_> did yall read what i said
[18:46] <Mario> okie i think i shall do the cd integrity check first n tell u guys da results
[18:46] <jazmac> brb
[18:46] <jedc> joakimk: http://pastebin.com/m41e85d5d if you want to use as a template
[18:48] <jedc> jazmac: windows turn black if they are running slowly or not responding
[18:48] <jazmac> Not the not responding thing.  I know what that is.  It happens on a section at a time
[18:48] <jondavis_> I would like to know if there is a program that will recored outhere people talking on a home phone.i need it to be putton my desck top thro my home phon
[18:48] <jondavis_> e
[18:49] <Frank83> Greetings guys, I'm a little embarrassed to make this question: Ubuntu "Appearance" is managed by GDM Thermes, GTK Themes or Metacity Themes?
[18:49] <Berzerker> jondavis_, spying on people, eh?
[18:49] <jondavis_> no
[18:49] <jazmac> It'll happen on the boarders of the page.  Or the bottom half of the page.
[18:49] <pep> Hi
[18:49] <Berzerker> Frank83, GDM themes.
[18:49] <Berzerker> Frank83, you can install GTK aspects and make a custom theme (like window border, controls, etc)
[18:49] <jedc> jazmac: huh, that does sound weird
[18:49] <jazmac> I did not see then with FF 3.02
[18:49] <mickster04> jondavis_, without a microphone it cant be done
[18:49] <jondavis_> outhere people have lie to me and said that thay did not say what thay said to me
[18:50] <jedc> !hi | pep
[18:50] <jazmac> But I see it with 3.5
[18:50] <grawity> jazmac: How did you install 3.5?
[18:50] <mickster04> grawity, search for shiretoko
[18:50] <jazmac> I'm still a Ubuntu toddler so I'm still unsure about some of this
[18:50] <Berzerker> Frank83, just search around google for Ubuntu desktop themes, you'll get a website with a nice list
[18:50] <jondavis_> i need to know what progran i can use
[18:50] <grawity> mickster04: I know how to install it myself. I'm asking how _he_ did it - there are like four ways to get 3.5 in Jaunty.
[18:51] <jedc> jazmac: 3.5 seems to have a few issues, i tried it today and the google bar didnt work for searches, and some other things were behaving oddly
[18:51] <jazmac> I installed it from a deb package I think.
[18:51] <mickster04> jondavis_, sound recorder
[18:51] <danbhfive> jondavis_: can you lug it in to your computer?
[18:51] <Minna> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[18:51] <Frank83> Berzerker: So they do not exclude each other? That I already did: Gnome-look.org.
[18:51] <mickster04> grawity, oooh
[18:51] <danbhfive> jondavis_: *plug
[18:51] <panaggio> my flash is not ok
[18:51] <jondavis_> how will help me
[18:51] <Berzerker> Frank83, yes, GDM Themes is what you want
[18:51] <jazmac> Yeah, I think in Linux, 3.5 has issues
[18:51] <Halitech> jondavis_, asterix if you want to run your own phone system, if not sound recorder, if you don't have a working nic, a tape recorder
[18:51] <Minna> HOW DO YOU DO
[18:51] <panaggio> I have to machines with ubuntu jaunty installed, both with the same configured alternatives
[18:51] <mickster04> !caps
[18:51] <Groinshot> hey
[18:51] <panaggio> I have *two machines with ubuntu jaunty installed, both with the same configured alternatives
[18:51] <Frank83> Berzerker: Thanks a lot. :-) Have a nice day!
[18:51] <oldude67> !hi | Minna
[18:51] <grawity> Minna: Good, thanks. Please stop shouting.
[18:51] <Berzerker> Frank83, wait.
[18:52] <jondavis_> plese pm me and tell me how it works
[18:52] <Minna> WHY??
[18:52] <panaggio> and in one of them I get this problem, and in the other, everything is ok
[18:52] <Frank83> Berzerker: Standing by.
[18:52] <oldude67> !caps | Minna
[18:52] <panaggio> and in a near past, both worked
[18:52] <jedc> Minna: because it is considered rude.
[18:52] <jazmac> I got this Shietoko thing when I did this install.
[18:52] <Berzerker> Frank83, yay I'm wrong. do you use compiz? if not, use GTK 2.x, if you do, use compiz
[18:52] <Groinshot> Im running a dual boot system with vista and ubuntu, vista on one hard drive and ubuntu on the other one, and I want rid of ubuntu to go back to vista only, but I cant because of GRUB, how can I sort this out?
[18:52] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[18:52] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[18:52] <Berzerker> Frank83, GDM is login screens
[18:52] <Berzerker> Frank83, lulz
[18:53] <Halitech> Groinshot, boot from the vista disk, go into recovery mode and repair the mbr
[18:53] <jondavis_> i will keep asking untell a person helps meout
[18:53] <Groinshot> mbr?
[18:53] <Schmitty> master boot record
[18:53] <Berzerker> Groinshot, do you have a vista recovery disk?
[18:53] <Halitech> Groinshot, master boot record
[18:53] <mickster04> jondavis_, we have given you plenty of options
[18:53] <oldude67> jondavis_, please dont be rude, wait awhile before asking!
[18:53] <Groinshot> have the vista recovery disk yeah
[18:53] <Berzerker> Groinshot, if so, boot into it, click repair computer, click on Command prompt and type in "bootrec /fixMBR"
[18:53] <Frank83> Berzerker: I have Compiz-Fusion Disabled since some Wine apps don't get along with it. So I'll stick to GTK 2.x themes, right?
[18:53] <jedc> jondavis_: we are not omniscient, we have tried to help you
[18:54] <Berzerker> Frank83, yessir.
[18:54] <Halitech> jondavis_, you haven't given us any further information on which of the options you want to try to do
[18:54] <Groinshot> then format the second drive?
[18:54] <jondavis_> i need it to be putt on my desktop thro my home phone
[18:54] <Berzerker> Groinshot, sure, but you can do that in vista.
[18:54] <mickster04> jondavis_, its not possible if u cant use the methods we have given u
[18:54] <Groinshot> Cant, cos the drive is in a different format, and isnt recognised, but thats grand
[18:54] <Berzerker> Groinshot, don't like ubuntu?
[18:54] <Groinshot> thanks so much
[18:54] <jondavis_> i need to recored outher people talking to me
[18:54] <Berzerker> Groinshot, if you get a program, like partition magic, it can recognize it
[18:54] <LoneWlf> can anyone help me or direct me to where help can be had?
[18:54] <Schmitty> someone has loaded a sinister LKM in my system. What do I do?
[18:55] <LoneWlf> has anyone heard of an issue like this?
[18:55] <mickster04> jondavis_, well have u tried any of our ideas
[18:55] <Groinshot> Not that I dont like ubuntu, I just have too many compatability problems with my hardware
[18:55] <jondavis_> some
[18:55] <Frank83> Berzerker: Thanks for your help! I'm off to download a bunch of themes.
[18:55] <Berzerker> Groinshot, but if you go into control panel, administrative tools, then computer management, it will recognize it in an unknown format
[18:55] <Berzerker> Frank83, np, have fun. :P
[18:55] <Berzerker> Groinshot, from there you can delete it and reformat it to something else
[18:55] <Halitech> Groinshot, use the recovery option to repair the mbr, then boot a live cd and use the partition editor to remove ubuntu, then go back to windows and format the drive
[18:56] <Berzerker> That works as well
[18:56] <Halitech> Berzerker, that won't get rid of grub though
[18:56] <Schmitty> Groinshot: throw the hardrive in the bathtub
[18:56] <Berzerker> Halitech, I already told him how to get rid of it
[18:56] <Groinshot> and software too, I found steam wouldnt run properly through wine, and i just dont like change
[18:56] <mickster04> Groinshot, have u had a look at play on linux
[18:56] <Halitech> Berzerker, sorry, missed that post
[18:56] <Berzerker> Halitech, np
[18:57] <combo> how can i order two or more commands i one line in terminal? "command_1 && command_2" doesn't work to me(?) I wanto to launch two aplications at once
[18:57] <Halitech> jondavis_, ok, we get your point that you want to record your phone calls but do you want to run a phone system or do you have a mic that works in ubuntu?
[18:58] <mikejones> what does java6 do?cause when i install it it crashes everything
[18:58] <jazmac> I want to revert back to the earlier 3.0 FF.  3.5 has issues.
[18:58] <Groinshot> Nope
[18:58] <resno1> i am trying to use analog but the dns is not resolving.
[18:58] <Berzerker> jazmac, what kind of issues?
[18:59] <Groinshot> I still use it in work and on my work laptop, I jsut want to keep using vista on my desktop cos I use it for gaming
[18:59] <jazmac> Hey Berzerker.
[18:59] <Berzerker> jazmac, could be an addon, FF3.5 works flawlessly for me
[18:59] <pep> I just plugged an external monitor into my thinkpad, but jaunty seems to recognize it as the main screen... I'd like the gnome panel and the main execution screen to be the laptop one, anyone know how to configure this? Surprisingly, the display preferences do not allow me to choose, and the xorg.conf seems to have changed over the years... :/
[18:59] <syntax> how do you unzip a .zip in terminal
[18:59] <Berzerker> unzip
[18:59] <Berzerker> syntax, unzip <filename>
[18:59] <jazmac> Parts of the page blank out until I refresh
[18:59] <combo> how to close viewing "man name_of_aplication" in terminal ? CTRL+C does not quit man :/
[19:00] <winstonw> combo, it uses less so press q to quit
[19:00] <Berzerker> type q
[19:00] <Berzerker> then enter
[19:00] <winstonw> man less
[19:00] <pep> combo: q
[19:00] <prince_jammys> Q
[19:00] <winstonw> lol so many Q's
[19:00] <jazmac> I could look at the addons.  Let me see something
[19:00] <prince_jammys> you're quitting less
[19:00] <jazmac> one sec
[19:00] <jedc> mikejones: it doesnt do anything on its own, but you some form of java to run java programs
[19:00] <jedc> jazmac: if you installed it through apt, then sudo apt-get remove firefox-3.5
[19:00] <syntax> thx
[19:00] <jedc> jazmac: or dpkg -r firefox-3.5 will remove it also
[19:00] <Berzerker> jazmac, I have 5 major addons installed, if you and I have the same then whatever you have that I don't may be causing the problem.
[19:00] <combo> pep, winstonw HOLLY CRAP! that was so easy ;) thx You guys :)
[19:01] <combo> btw. maybe also does know how to launch to aplications at once in teminal? "comand1 && comand2" doesn't work to me? :(
[19:01] <jazmac> I can't remember when this started but I do remember installing personas then I dropped a theme on.
[19:02] <prince_jammys> combo: command1 & command2
[19:02] <resno1> i need help getting analog to resolve dns
[19:02] <jazmac> That might be the conflict causing it since they both want to control color
[19:02] <winstonw> combo, && is just like ; but the second command doesn't execute if the first command fails
[19:02] <Groinshot> Lol @ Schmitty
[19:02] <Groinshot> I only saw your response now
[19:02] <fusen> I just married some women who won't stop going on about an old flame that kept talking about ubuntu
[19:02] <fusen> o.o
[19:02] <Groinshot> if I do that though, I cant boot into vista Lol
[19:02] <combo> winstonw: yeap U're right :)
[19:02] <prince_jammys> combo: '&' runs a prog in the background
[19:02] <guntbert> !ot | fusen
[19:03] <Groinshot> anyway, ill try this, Ill let you know how I get on
[19:03] <Groinshot> thanks so much :)
[19:03] <rski> Hello i have 2 problems. If i change xorg.conf to have 16bit depth, gdm stops working. and if i start X manually and make it 16bit via the commandline, the audio stops to work. how to hunt from here?
[19:03] <combo> prince_jammys: checking out that
[19:03] <rski> I'm quite stuck.
[19:03] <maco> combo: and || makes the second command only execute if the first fails
[19:03] <winstonw> combo, :) there are some great shell tutorials around the internets, check them out :)
[19:03] <combo> prince_jammys: WORKS! :D it was just "&" totally enough for that ;)
[19:03] <combo> prince_jammys: THX :)
[19:04] <userone> i finally used a vista dvd to fix a 'missing bootmgr' problem but that wiped out grub. so i booted up with a live cd, used sudo grub>root (hd0,2)>setup (hd0,2)>exit. I rebooted (without the live cd) but it booted straight into windows. how do i get grub back?
[19:04] <mickster04> !grub
[19:04] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:04] <anr78> I'm installing a dual boot with Ubuntu and OS X and a shared media partition. What file system could/should I use on the media partition?
[19:04] <Berzerker> how convenient.
[19:04] <Berzerker> anr78, HFS+
[19:04] <guntbert> !bash | combo (if you want to read a bit)
[19:04] <Berzerker> anr78, Ubuntu can read/write be default now.
[19:04] <Berzerker> anr78, if you want, you can use FAT32, but HFS+ can be read/write now by ubuntu
[19:05] <richardcavell> anr78: Berzerker are you sure HFS+ is read/write by Ubuntu?
[19:05] <Berzerker> richardcavell, pretty sure since Hardy.
[19:05] <Berzerker> Someone can jump in if I'm wrong.
[19:05] <combo> guntbert: hm.. works in terminal but does NOT work as a shortcut icon comand ;/
[19:05] <jedc> jazmac: then sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[19:05] <jedc> pep: i have an nvidia card, and i can configure multiple displays in System->Administration->NVIDIA X server settings, im not sure if there is the same sort of thing for other video cards
[19:05] <jazmac> I think you helped me figure this out Berzerker.
[19:05] <jazmac> I may be ok now.
[19:05] <combo> prince_jammys: hm, and you know perhaps how to make it (doouble command) in short-cut ?
[19:05] <Berzerker> jazmac, :) what was it?
[19:06] <richardcavell> Berzerker: I just tested it.  Yeah, you're right
[19:06] <anr78> Berzerker: HFS+ sounds good then
[19:06] <panaggio> I have two machines with ubuntu jaunty installed, both with the same configured alternatives for flash, and in one of them, flash is not fully working
[19:06] <guntbert> combo: never tried - what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:06] <Berzerker> kk all
[19:06] <richardcavell> anr78: I just tested on my Mac - it works just fine
[19:06] <jazmac> Berzerker: I screwed up.  I installed personas and that is usually what I always have on.
[19:06] <richardcavell> anr78: I can read/write my OS X partition from Ubuntu
[19:07] <jedc> combo: try, <command1> & <command2>
[19:07] <userone> yes..yes..bot..i hav followed the howtos but nothing, thats why i am asking here
[19:07] <combo> guntbert: I want to put "hp-systray" and "hp-toolbox" in one shortcut so if I click it, then those to apps will run
[19:07] <jazmac> But I thought I could install a theme from the add on section of FF
[19:07] <jazmac> I did install it.
[19:07] <pep> jedc: I have an intel integrated graphics card I think... I'm not even sure which driver i'm using, xorg.conf is so empty, it's weird..;
[19:07] <combo> jedc: yeap, have tried that already, doesn't work ;(
[19:07] <anr78> richardcavell: great. you don't have a separate partition for data/media then?
[19:07] <Berzerker> jazmac, I just use themes of Ubuntu themes.
[19:07] <jazmac> But since they both want to control the look,
[19:07] <richardcavell> anr78: no
[19:07] <Berzerker> jazmac, don't both with them since things like that can happen. :P
[19:07] <combo> jedc: it runs only one (first) command :(
[19:07] <jedc> combo: i just tried it in a terminal and it worked, with 1 & not 2
[19:08] <prince_jammys> combo: no, i don't know how shortcuts are implemented in gnome
[19:08] <richardcavell> anr78: But you can use your /Users/name folder from OS X from within Ubuntu
[19:08] <Berzerker> anr78, you don't even need a media partition, you can just read everything from your OS X partition
[19:08] <fireun> I'm getting timeouts from keyserver.ubuntu.com, anyone know whats up?
[19:08] <fireun> "keyserver error"
[19:08] <jazmac> there was conflict in the way the color on my pages displayed
[19:08] <combo> prince_jammys: I have KDE but using OpenBox
[19:08] <jedc> pep: is there anything in System->Administration that looks promising for configuring displays?
[19:08] <combo> actually i want to impement that in OBmenu :)
[19:08] <anr78> richardcavell, Berzerker: I know, but it just feels wrong to let Ubuntu mess inside my user folder :)
[19:08] <jazmac> Disabling Personas seem to have cleared up that problem
[19:08] <Berzerker> fireun, 0 drops for me.
[19:08] <pep> nah... but I think I have to use xrandr
[19:08] <combo> one click = run those two commands at once
[19:08] <fireun> Berzerker: hmm
[19:08] <richardcavell> Is it just me or when people speak about their 'media' partition, I think of 'pr0n' partition?
[19:09] <combo> can't atached that
[19:09] <Berzerker> lol
[19:09] <Berzerker> richardcavell, it's just you lol
[19:09] <fireun> Berzerker: I can ping it, but I cant get a key from it
[19:09] <richardcavell> anr78: You could mount the partition as read-only
[19:09] <joakimk> Anyone recommend a good DVI viewer?
[19:09] <jedc> richardcavell: thats /media/misc
[19:09] <Berzerker> fire might be on a different server that's down.
[19:09] <Berzerker> joakimk, DVI viewer?
[19:09] <Berzerker> like, a monitor?
[19:10] <Berzerker> Acers are good.
[19:10] <combo> hm, ok. thanks for help anyway guys. You were as always usefull.. What would I suppose to do without You ;) regards, see-ya all ;)
[19:10] <anr78> richardcavell: I'll call it data-partition from now on :)
[19:10] <richardcavell> anr78: yes, I have an external hard disk with my .... "data".... as well
[19:10] <anr78> :D
[19:11] <Berzerker> richardcavell, you know that mentioning it makes you suspicious now. o_O
[19:11] <caveman27> is it possible to use a windows screensaver in ubuntu?
[19:11] <richardcavell> Berzerker: lol
[19:11] <Berzerker> caveman27, denied.
[19:11] <jazmac> Well, I think I'm good.  I'll drive 3.5 around awhile and see if the problem returns.  I'll start by logging out and back on.
[19:11] <Berzerker> jazmac, themes will do that to you, you should be fine.
[19:12] <jazmac> Probably was a bad idea to begin with installing the theme on top of Personas.  No worries though.
[19:12] <jazmac> bbl
[19:12] <jazmac> Thanks all
[19:12] <Berzerker> jazmac, gl
[19:12] <anr78> anyway. I want to be able to read and write from both Ubuntu and OS X, but since we are only talking about "media" I should be able to not mess stuff up for os x.
[19:13] <userone> when i install ubuntu i have only a swap partition and / partition. should i have a /boot and if so why (what advantages) and how big should this be?
[19:13] <Berzerker> anr78, don't go into your /System folder and you'll be fine
[19:13] <jedc> anr78: i believe you need to turn off journaling on the os x partition
[19:13] <Berzerker> user01, /boot is in your normal partition
[19:13] <jedc> anr78: to be able to write to it
[19:13] <Berzerker> blah
[19:13] <anr78> richardcavell: have you changed your os x uid to match your ubuntu uid?
[19:13] <Halitech> userone, not normally neccessary to have seperate /boot anymore
[19:13] <Berzerker> userone, /boot is in your normal partition
[19:13] <richardcavell> jedc: I thought that was the case, too.  But I am able to read and write to my OS X partition right now
[19:13] <richardcavell> anr78: yep
[19:14] <richardcavell> anr78: I've put specific instructions on how to do this at ubuntuforums.org.  It's stickied at the top of the Apple Users forum
[19:14] <jedc> userone: you might want to have a seperate partition for /home, it makes upgrading or anything a breeze
[19:14] <commander_> what is the best anitvirus
[19:14] <Halitech> userone, depending on your system you may need it (if you can boot you don't) but on my old P4 with a 160gig drive I had to or it wouldn't boot
[19:14] <anr78> richardcavell: great!
[19:14] <richardcavell> anr78: I just tested it, and it works fine *shrug*
[19:15] <jedc> commander_: anti-virus software is not really necesary in ubuntu
[19:15] <mickster04> jedc if at all?
[19:15] <Halitech> HFS+  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus .. can read and write to HFS+ now
[19:15] <anr78> richardcavell: what works fine? not turning off journaling?
[19:15] <Berzerker> userone, unless you specifically make a /boot partition, it's included in your / partition
[19:15] <richardcavell> Halitech: is that just newer kernels or what?
[19:15] <jedc> mickster04: yep
[19:15] <Berzerker> richardcavell, since Hardy
[19:15] <pharsalus> Although if you're really paranoid, AVG Free has a Linux version. (Closed source though.)
[19:15] <fireun> Berzerker: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8A626B42
[19:16]  * nonix4 ponders whether Xorg w/ proprietary nvidia 180.44 driver using 4.7 gigabytes of RSS is a memory leak or just "normal"...
[19:16] <fireun> Berzerker: does not work
[19:16] <richardcavell> Berzerker: what version of Ubuntu/kernel do you have?
[19:16] <fireun> Berzerker: william grant's ppa
[19:16] <Halitech> richardcavell, doesn't say ... As with NTFS on Linux, there has been some success in porting HFS+ to Linux, at least in non-journaled read/write and journal read-only mode
[19:16] <Berzerker> richardcavell, I'm running UNR Jaunty
[19:16] <richardcavell> anr78: I'm on Karmic with 2.6.31-5 kernel, and I can read/write HFS+ without modifying the HFS+ partition
[19:16] <userone> i have tried all the howtos / forums to get grub back but nothing. so now i will go through the ubuntu install process but NOT fomat the drives until it gives option to reinstall grub again. this should fix grub without changing anything else. the live cd command prompt just doesnt cut it.
[19:16]  * fluurp will be back later
[19:16] <anr78> richardcavell: oh.. your post on the forums is a loooooong read :)
[19:16] <Berzerker> richardcavell, 2.6.28-14
[19:16] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good comparison of awn and cairo-dock?
[19:17] <richardcavell> anr78: skip down to part 2, about the 3rd item
[19:17] <richardcavell> Berzerker: Yeah, my understanding is it writes without using the journal and reads using the journal
[19:17] <jedc> poseidon: i liked awn better, cairo had more themes but i though awn looked nicer
[19:17] <Berzerker> richardcavell, yes.
[19:17] <bbeck> Does anyone know where I can find the source code for ncal?
[19:17] <richardcavell> Berzerker: So you lose some theoretical benefits of journalling
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> hi all
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> I really need some help
[19:18] <richardcavell> Berzerker: but it's no biggie, surely
[19:18] <Berzerker> richardcavell, still, you can read/write. I'm sure that's all people really want.
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Studio XPS 13, and Wifi is not working properly
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> it cant seem to obtain an IP and I think there's and issue with DHCP
[19:18] <Berzerker> does it recognize networks?
[19:18] <Untouchab1e> its a Dell 1515 WLAN card (its an Atheros card, uses the ath9k driver)
[19:18] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, does it show the wireless card in iwconfig?
[19:18] <KNY> hey guys, what do I have to do to enable tab-completion on apt-get packages? Some of my ubuntu computers have it and some don't.
[19:19] <Untouchab1e> Halitech: yes it does, and it can detect available networks and try to connect
[19:19] <Untouchab1e> but times out when it tries to obtain an IP
[19:19] <rgnr> any1 has fmodex64 4.24.16 ?
[19:19] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, any security on the router?
[19:19] <tdstrong> is keyserver.ubuntu.com down?  I can ping it, but can't request gpg keys.
[19:19] <ryan_> i want to set up an old desktop as a file and print server, how can i do this?
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> Halitech: yeah, WPA2
[19:20] <rgnr> !!!
[19:20] <rgnr> any1 has fmodex64 4.24.16 ?
[19:20] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, try turning it off
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> that might be the problem I guess, I can try switching off the encryption
[19:20] <Untouchab1e> give me a sec
[19:20] <Oli```> How can I monitor live lirc events?
[19:20] <Halitech> ryan_, use the alt install cd, do a minimal install and add the apps/services you want/need
[19:21] <Guest89784> anyone, I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my notebook but i seem to be having problems with my touchpad. Its hypersensitive and responds poorly .. any solutions for this??
[19:21] <Untouchab1e> I spent the full last day trying to figure this one out in openSUSE though.. eventually gave up and tried Ubuntu instead
[19:21] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[19:22] <Untouchab1e> connecting to unencrypted network now..
[19:22]  * richardcavell is off to bed now
[19:22] <jazmac> Berzerker, doesn't seem like it was Personas
[19:22] <jazmac> It was a badly written theme
[19:23] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, that worked?
[19:23] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[19:23] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[19:23] <LoneWlf> has anyone heard of an issue like this?
[19:23] <LoneWlf> can anyone help me or direct me to where help can be had?
[19:23] <jazmac> I had Vista-Aero theme installed and it had to be removed to fix this problem.
[19:24] <precisoajuda> alqguem fala portugues ou español?
[19:24] <Halitech> !es | precisoajuda
[19:24] <mneptok> LoneWlf: have you stopped and restarted cron/anacron?
[19:24] <puremichael> hmmm nautilus takes 175MiB of ram?
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: are you a new Linux user?
[19:25] <puremichael> not really new, rather using it but scratching on top of the surface
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[19:25] <precisoajuda> ok.. somebody help me please... i cant install my webcam...
[19:25] <mneptok> puremichael: read that carefully
[19:26] <puremichael> yes, i already know about disk caching and so on
[19:26] <jgoo___ffs> requesting real version of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[19:26] <vieira> hi for all
[19:26] <mneptok> puremichael: it's likely that Nautilus is using cached memory
[19:26] <jgoo___ffs> one that isn't outdated, and / or docs on tightvnc that actually are for the current version and give information on session resuming
[19:26] <puremichael> but didn't notice that nautilus takes ram, i thought kernel would do caching
[19:27] <xiong> where is komodo?
[19:27] <Kelder> puremichael: ram usage is not the end-all of efficiency measures, otherwise vista would suck since it uses superfetch..
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> back
[19:27] <vieira> hellow
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> When trying to connect to unencrypted network I did eventaully manage to connect
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> but I still cant ping or access anything
[19:27] <[1]Untouchab1e> so there is definetly still something wrong
[19:27] <Halitech> [1]Untouchab1e, can you ping the gateway ip adress?
[19:28] <puremichael> yay; i've got 6gib, i'm not worried, but i didn't thought that applications take ram for diskcache instead of something more low level
[19:28] <madley>  I have just installed ubuntu8.04 on my notebook .. I am having a problem with my touchpad.. its hyper sensitive .. Any knows how to solve this
[19:28] <LoneWlf> mneptok : nope, not as yet
[19:28] <Halitech> madley, I believe there is a program call gsynaptic that controls the touchpad, have you tried that?
[19:29] <LoneWlf> mneptok : I think I'm starting to stack now, so I will go try that, see if I can get it in before it becomes unresponsive
[19:29] <gwildor> madley, system > preferenes > mouse
[19:29] <madley> Halitech: No, I will try that
[19:29] <userone> the ubuntu installation has asked me for the boot loader device. should i accept the default (hd0) or use /dev/sda1 (vista) or /dev/sda3/ ubuntu 9.04. i want to be able to dual-boot vista / ubuntu using grub
[19:29] <madley> Gwildor: am using a notebook
[19:30] <gwildor> madley, so am i...
[19:30] <pharsalus> The utility works for mousepads too
[19:30] <madley> Gwildor, I ll try that out n let u know
[19:30] <userone> or device /dev/sda which is the generic hdd
[19:30] <gwildor> madley, sorry, that may have been rude, i should have repsonded as pharsalus  did
[19:31] <jgoo___ffs> have they fixed the bugs in nautilus yet?
[19:31] <madley> gwildor, no problem dude
[19:31] <jgoo___ffs> I bought a mac purely because nautilus just doesn't work
[19:31] <jedc> userone: the default will install grub on the MBR, and is suitable for dual booting
[19:31] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, what problem are  you referring to?
[19:32] <pharsalus> jgoo___ffs, there are other file managers out there than Nautilus, Macs are fairly expensive, did you consider the alternatives!?
[19:32] <xiong> um, noob question: what search string might produce a tutorial on how to find and add repositories to synaptic?
[19:32] <jiohdi> when you get a new version of firefox... how do you make it replace the current version rather than just exist along side it?
[19:32] <mickster04> !ff35
[19:32] <mickster04> it says it all there
[19:33] <jiohdi> thanks mick :)
[19:33] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, I did consider driving around and killing hookers to vent off frustration every time a drag and drop failed or I got annoyed at nautilus, but in the end buying a mac meant I had more storage in my freezer for pizza
[19:33] <Kelder> xiong: there are great sites on which open software is a nice alternative to the software you know.. other than that you could use the ass/remove software options to get a more user-friendly version of synaptic
[19:33] <pharsalus> *giggles*
[19:33] <emil111> hello, I am a new ubuntu user and I have somehow made it impossible to boot xp after the grub bootloader crashed. can someone explain to me how to remove it, please?
[19:34] <mickster04> !grub
[19:34] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, there is a HUGE bug, that isn't even documented
[19:34] <Kelder> xiong: add/remove not ass/remove ;) sorry
[19:34] <mickster04> ;)
[19:34] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, based on which node has focus when dragging and dropping trees in extanded mode... this really burned me once... and... I just can't... brb, off to drive downtown for some sport
[19:34] <Yos> LoL
[19:35] <pharsalus> jgoo___ffs, Did you submit a bug report?
[19:35] <xiong> Kelder, i'm okay with synaptic but i don't understand how to use it to install software that doesn't come up in the synaptic search
[19:35] <xiong> Kelder, i think i need to add more repositories?
[19:35] <Halitech> always founf CTRL C and CTRL V to work great for me
[19:36] <jgoo___ffs> pharsalus, no, I am using it as a metric for the development of nautilus. When someone *else* finds it, and fixes it, I will consider it mature enough for me to use it again
[19:36] <jgoo___ffs> it is no big deal pharsalus, actually I am late to work on some stuff, just wanted to vent about vnc issues and annoyances
[19:36] <xiong> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Other%20Repositories -- this all makes sense and it's pretty obvious/basic -- the question is, where are the URLs of these other repositories found?
[19:36] <jiohdi> mickster04, how about an explanation for ff in english, what you gave me was in japanese stereo instruction hackereese
[19:37] <Kelder> xiong: if you have set your Software Sources to include all sources, then that is probably not your problem, to me it sounds like you have trouble finding out what software youd like for your personal purposes (which is a valid concern when you use synaptic) basically you have to know which software you want before you enter synaptic
[19:37] <afed> kill all
[19:37] <fauxreigner> hey ubuntu channel - does ubuntu still have a hard time dealing with ATI graphics cards?
[19:38] <xiong> Kelder, i want the big, fat coding-oriented text editor, preferably with perl-specific features -- i'm a big fan of bbedit
[19:38] <mickster04> jiohdi, u can just remove the old firefox
[19:38] <libtech> fauxreigner: im using jaunty on an old dell with an ati x300, compiz works pretty well
[19:38] <Halitech> fauxreigner, depends on what card and what version
[19:38]  * batchy http://time-war.com/recruit.php?uniqid=gp1248982542 dr who based game. its new- all the chances to be top player is yours. also, two RANDOM players will win psps in time
[19:38] <mneptok> xiong: do you work on platforms other than Linux?
[19:38] <jiohdi> mickster... I am afraid :)
[19:38] <mickster04> jiohdi, of what?
[19:39] <xiong> mneptok, bbedit on mac os 9
[19:39] <Kelder> xiong: they are found with the software accompaning them.. like when you use the Deluge torrent client, you might want to add its repository so you can receive the latest versions of that software.. but there arent any 'goldmine' repositories you can add to get a bunch more options.. cept maybe medibuntu
[19:39] <jiohdi> mickster, that when I remove the old one that the new one will lose parts
[19:39] <mneptok> xiong: Mac OS .... *WHAT*?!
[19:39] <mickster04> jiohdi, they are seperate entities
[19:39] <xiong> mneptok, yah, i was the last of the mohicans
[19:39] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[19:39] <mickster04> !tab | jiohdi
[19:39] <mneptok> xiong: PM?
[19:39] <fauxreigner> okay, well - I'm planning on buying a new laptop soon, and one brand that I'm considering only offers ATI Mobility cards...
[19:39] <Kelder> xiong: eclipse or netbeans are feature rich editors (IDE's) you could also look into Komodo if thats not enough
[19:39]  * batchy http://time-war.com/recruit.php?uniqid=gp1248982542 dr who based game. its new- all the chances to be top player is yours. also, two RANDOM players will win psps in time
[19:39] <wonderer`> does  anybody uses BT4
[19:40] <jiohdi> mickster, the new one seems to have inherited all the changes I made to the old one... so how is it doing that unless it is depending on some shared parts?
[19:40] <pharsalus> Netbeans is good
[19:40] <wonderer`> i have some questions
[19:40] <[2]Untouchab1e> ok, for some reason, it just magically started working ^^
[19:40] <jiohdi> thanks ubottu
[19:40] <[2]Untouchab1e> but now I have another question...
[19:40] <mickster04> jiohdi,  i dont know..it should have been explained in the documents u read
[19:40] <Halitech> fauxreigner, you may want to look at nvidia instead, ati just dropped a bunch of cards from support so unless the open source drivers work, might be disappointed
[19:41] <jiohdi> mickster04: except I could not read them
[19:41] <NickUK`> I am having a problem with our AdHoc network not sending any packets, can anybody help please
[19:41] <mickster04> jiohdi, what is there that would be lost?
[19:42] <jiohdi> skins, add ons, xmarks, etc
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> my laptop uses a hybrid-sli setup..
[19:42] <mickster04> !grub > Risalat
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> with a geforce 9500m + 9200m
[19:42] <fauxreigner> Halitech, thanks - I don't want to end up with an unsupported system right out of the box
[19:42] <Untouchab1e> but the nvidia linux drivers doesnt support hotswapping between using both or just the integrated GPU... how can I someone specify that I dont want to use both (since I dont game in Linux, I never need them both)
[19:43] <Halitech> fauxreigner, you can compare against here if you want before purchasing http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> open office writer wont run. i get this message
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> eric@Raiju-desktop:~$ oowriter
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> ** (soffice:4307): WARNING **: unable to get gail version number
[19:43] <Bow2`Shino> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[19:43] <FloodBot2> Bow2`Shino: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <beerkid> Anyone experienced with Yahoo Pipes? An easy $20 if you can figure out one thing.
[19:44] <mzz> it is amusing how some of the hardware in this laptop has better ubuntu drivers than preinstalled windows drivers. Specifically the wireless works and the touchpad does two-finger scrolling.
[19:45] <mickster04> !ot
[19:45] <beerkid> I see. Thanks
[19:45] <mzz> (must admit the X driver didn't, but I'm pretty sure that's fixed in karmic)
[19:46] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I don't see that card available there.  That's bad news.
[19:46] <captn> i used apt-get apache2 to install apache but i don't know where to find httpd.conf does it exist
[19:46] <Halitech> fauxreigner, what card?
[19:46] <grawity> captn: /etc/apache2 -- also it is called apache2.conf, I think.
[19:46] <jedc> Bow2`Shino: i get that warning too and it runs for me, so its just the runtime exception hehe, not helpful but narrows it down
[19:46] <captn> ty
[19:46] <mizerydearia> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope and installed Ubuntuzilla 4.7.4-0ubuntu1 (amd64) which installed Mozilla Firefox 3.5.2.  The pc has Internet access since Konqueror can view google.com, however, Mozilla Firefox is not able to resolve domain names, but can access sites by ip.  How come dns resolution doesn't work?
[19:46] <wonderer`> what is the best usb wireless adapdor with good support on backtrack 4
[19:47] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I'm looking at Lenovo laptops.  The only graphics cards they have available are onboard or Radeon Mobility 3470's.
[19:47] <wonderer`> plz help me
 it runs then this recovery thing pops up and closes after i hit next
[19:47] <mzz> mizerydearia: wild guess: there's an ipv6 disable option in about:config. Try toggling that.
[19:47] <Untouchab1e> Ubuntu is only picking up 2,2GB of my 4GB of RAM.. I am running the 32bit version though so I reckon thats the reason, but would it be possible to at least detect 3GB?
[19:47] <firecrotch> wonderer`: This is #ubuntu, not #backtrack
[19:47] <wonderer`> i thing thew have too much common theese days
[19:48] <rd1381> how can i configure my whole system(not just firefox) to use a proxy server for connecting to internet
[19:48] <mizerydearia> mzz: aha!  network.dns.disableIPv6 was false.  Setting it to true fix it.  Thanks!
[19:48] <jMyles> Is there a way to enable compositing in gnome without compiz?
[19:48] <Halitech> fauxreigner, there is the HD3xxx series, not sure if it would be the same driver or not
[19:48] <Qvintvs> is there a way to get a list of files that came with a package?
[19:48] <userone> ok..what just happened. i 'reinstalled' ubuntu but didnt format the /dev/sda3 exiting 9.04 partition. it fixed grub and now vista / ubuntu are on the boot menu and boot up BUT now nothing else in my ubuntu works..the mouse is dead...the touchpad is dead...the keyboard is dead...what happened!!!?
[19:48] <grawity> Qvintvs: dpkg -L package
[19:49] <rd1381> how can i configure my whole system(not just firefox) to use a proxy server for connecting to internet
[19:49] <mzz> mizerydearia: that *probably* means there's something odd about your networking configuration or the network you're on, but I don't know the specifics. Sorry.
[19:50] <Halitech> Untouchab1e, 32bit should see 4 gig but might only show 3.8gig or so, what does free -m show?
[19:50] <Kelder> rd1381: if your proxy server supports openvpn for example, you can just start an openvpn session and route your entire internet traffic through that server\
[19:50] <jedc> rd1381: you probably can set up an ssh tunnel to the proxy on port 80, which i think is the default port for internet. this is speculation ive never done it, anyone more knowledgabe know?
[19:50] <jedc> rd1381: probably should listen to kelder :p
[19:51] <ubuntistas> hello is there any way i can use a software for my toefl cd because it's not working on ubuntu?
[19:51] <rd1381> Kelder: no its a simple running java app (your-freedom.com client) which just gives a port for firefox to access
[19:51] <Kelder> rd1381: i only have experience with paid proxies
[19:51] <rd1381> it has a openvpn mode but i cant seenm to configure openvpn to use it
[19:51] <GuyFromHell> Anyone haveing issues downloading packages atm?
[19:52] <linuxdude> hello
[19:52] <Halitech> ubuntistas, did you try WINE?
[19:52] <sparr> is there any way to get firefox (or linux) to redirect all traffic aimed at foo.com:88 to foo.com:80 ?
[19:52] <linuxdude> yes wine will work
[19:52] <ivanov> hi all
[19:52] <linuxdude> hi icanov
[19:52] <ivanov> i can't mount mmc card
[19:52] <jedc> GuyFromHell: you could try using a different mirror for the software if you are having issues related to the server, otherwise it isprobably your connection or apt
[19:52] <ubuntistas> halitech it's working but not so good
[19:53] <linuxdude> ivanov:do ls /mount
[19:53] <Halitech> ubuntistas, only other way would be a VM
[19:53] <fauxreigner> Halitech, I'm just going to shop around more, I think.  Thanks for the help.
[19:53] <ivanov> I can only get the mmc to boot after booting the board once and then reboot
[19:53] <GuyFromHell> oh it just started working again
[19:53] <linuxdude> ivanov: do ls /media i mean
[19:53] <userone> ok..the keyboard suddenly works now...how do i shutdown using the keyboard only?
[19:53] <GuyFromHell> jedc, if it stops i'll try changing to us.
[19:53] <ctmjr> jMyles: you can install xcompmgr and remove compiz
[19:53] <Halitech> fauxreigner, ok, are you in North America?
[19:53] <ubuntistas> how can i install windows xp again halitech?
[19:53] <linuxdude> got ta goooo
[19:53] <rd1381> anyone here that knows how to use openvpn with a http proxy?
[19:53] <jedc> GuyFromHell: usually the ones that are physically closer to you are faster
[19:53] <bruce927> Hey, does anyone know how to get keymanager to stop asking for my password everytime I boot up?
[19:53] <ivanov> linuxdude: i only can mount mmc after reboot
[19:53] <fauxreigner> Halitech, yes
[19:53] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | ubuntistas
[19:53] <gwildor> Bruce, turn of the keyring...
[19:54] <Halitech> ubuntistas, last time I did it was install windows first then linux
[19:54] <bruce927> gwildor: How?
[19:54] <grawity> bruce927: Do you use autologin or are you logging in manually? Also, GNOME or KDE?
[19:54] <GuyFromHell> jedc, you mean network-ly closer :P
[19:54] <ejv> sparr: iptables
[19:54] <Halitech> fauxreigner, look at system76.com they have some good systems
[19:54] <bruce927> autologin, grawity, gnome
[19:54] <grawity> bruce927: Change the keyring password to an empty one.
[19:54] <gwildor> bruce927, startup sessions... i think
[19:54] <ejv> sparr, you need to edit the linux firewall configuration
[19:55] <Kelder> rd1381: im afraid im not familiar with your-freedom.com  just remember that any proxy is basically paying for your bandwidth, so its like using a secondary ISP - you get what you pay for.
[19:55] <ubuntistas> so any clue halitech?
[19:55] <jedc> ubuntistas: you just put a windows disc in and reboot, make sure the boot order is looking for the cd rom (randomly press all the f buttons on startup to get to settings)
[19:55] <LoneWlf> after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files
[19:55] <Halitech> ubuntistas, do you want to dual boot or use it in a vm?
[19:55] <LoneWlf> I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/
[19:55] <ejv> sparr: something like: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 88 -j ACCEPT
[19:55] <ubuntistas> dual boot halitech
[19:55] <ejv> sparr: then: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp --dport 88 -j REDIRECT --to-port 80
[19:56] <ejv> sparr: play with it, that should push you in the right direction though ;)
[19:56] <moox> hi there. I have a question about MTA metrocard and PATH, can someone help me?
[19:56] <ejv> iptables is powerful as hell
[19:56] <ejv> man iptables
[19:56] <Untouchab1e> could someone help me specify what I need to do in order specify that Ubuntu only uses my integrated GPU? (Got a Dell Studio XPS 13 with a hybrid-SLI: GF 9200m + 9400m)?
[19:56] <Halitech> ubuntistas, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[19:57] <Untouchab1e> I guess I could add the 9400m to a blacklist of some sort?
[19:57] <Untouchab1e> just not sure how to do it
[19:57] <rd1381> Kelder: so how can i make my whole system use a proxy
[19:57] <bruce927> Can I use startup disk maker to make a bootable copy of windows xp installer on a usb drive?
[19:57] <__theIdiotBox> bruce927: i guess no
[19:58] <fauxreigner> Halitech, thanks for the heads up on system76.  Looks like good stuff.  Will any of these systems have a hard time dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[19:58] <enthdegree> I'm dual booting crunchbang + win7 effortlessly.
[19:58] <bill> hello, i installed unbuntu 9.04 on a gateway 7330 ... and i dont have sound ... did all updates... and i see the sounds works ... but cant find the switch to turn the sound on thru the speakers .... any ideas ?
[19:59] <ejv> bill: you check ubuntuforums.org ?
[19:59] <bill> ejv, have a link ?
[19:59] <ejv> bill: lspci | grep Audio
[19:59] <Halitech> fauxreigner, I don't see why they would, check out http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[20:00] <ejv> bill: telling us that you have a gateway 7330 is pretty useless to us, we need to know what hardware/chipsets are in use ;)
[20:00] <gbrent> Has anyone here ever setup Squid to use multiple IP's?
[20:01] <bill> ejv, intel chipset and audio
[20:01] <jedc> rd1381: ssh -D 80 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server might work, might need to use sudo
[20:01] <bruce927> How can I make a bootable windows usb disk from in ubuntu?
[20:01] <Halitech> bruce927, I don;t think you can
[20:01] <jedc> rd1381: i havent tried it though
[20:01] <bruce927> Damn :S
[20:01] <ejv> bill: pastebin please :)
[20:01] <rd1381> jedc: its not ssh server just a web proxy
[20:02] <ubuntistas> halitech do i need a cd for this one
[20:02] <jedc> rd1381: oh, i have no idea then
[20:02] <Halitech> bruce927, I could be wrong though
[20:02] <ubuntistas> how much does it cost to a windows cp cd?
[20:02] <rd1381> thanks anyway
[20:02] <ubuntistas> how much does it cost to a windows xp cd?
[20:02] <bruce927> I need it for my s
[20:02] <Halitech> ubuntistas, don't think so, other then the windows cd
[20:03] <bruce927> acer aspire one, ubuntistas
[20:03] <nutzer_> allo
[20:03] <enthdegree> halloah
[20:03] <nutzer_> hallo
[20:03] <Pyrophelia> I need to build a large raid (10-15TB) and I was hoping to use cheap sata drives instead of scsi.  Can anybody recomend a site that lists supported sata raid cards?
[20:03] <libtech> bruce927: you could probably write an image of windows xp to your usb drive using an app called ImageWriter
[20:03] <ejv> Pyrophelia: use mdadm
[20:04] <libtech> bruce927: the package is called usb-imagewriter. also the image has to be a .img file
[20:04] <laeeqashahid> hello.. im new to linux, have installed ubuntu on hp mini 2133.. facing few problems.. majorly the mic is not working.. plz plz plz help me to sort dis out.. as its must for my netbook.. regards
[20:04] <ubuntistas> bruce li explain
[20:04] <Pici> !who
[20:04] <Pyrophelia> ejv, software raid is terrible.
[20:05] <Halitech> bruce927, then again ... http://kurtsh.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!DA410C7F7E038D!1665.entry
[20:05] <gbrent> Anyone here ever setup Squid Proxy to use multiple IP's?
[20:05] <enthdegree> moin moin moin. gnarrr
[20:05] <ejv> Pyrophelia: no, it's not. explain why you think that please.
[20:05] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | gbrent
[20:05] <Pici> gbrent: Have you asked in #squid ?
[20:05] <gbrent> yeah, no one responds for 30 min
[20:06] <laeeqashahid> hello.. im new to linux, have installed ubuntu on hp mini 2133.. facing few problems.. majorly the mic is not working.. plz plz plz help me to sort dis out.. as its must for my netbook.. regards
[20:06] <Halitech> !patience laeeqashahid
[20:06] <Pyrophelia> ejv, because the cpu manages the raid.  that may be fine for 1 or 2 drives, but when your array is 20+ disks the cpu gets bogged down quick
[20:06] <jgoo___ffs> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-540839.html someone read that, it is pissing me off
[20:06] <Pyrophelia> ejv, I'd rather have a dedicated raid card.
[20:06] <Halitech> !patience | laeeqashahid
[20:06] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I have a 10T server, raid 6, one hot swap, using mdadm with absolutely no problems, hdparm at over 2gbit.
[20:07] <jedc> ubuntistas: if you are a student, you can join the acm for $20 and dl it for free, otherwise probably > $80
[20:08] <Pyrophelia> n/m this is no help.  i'm not using software raid
[20:08] <kazadores> alguna
[20:08] <guntbert> !ohmy | jgoo___ffs
[20:08] <kazadores> woman
[20:08] <ejv> Pyrophelia: you said cheap lol, your comments are backed up though with data, might I suggeset a low-end Adaptec card then
[20:08] <critical_thread> in ubuntu 904, where is x11 config file stored? /etc ?
[20:08] <ejv> Pyrophelia: s/are/aren't
[20:08] <sparr> thanks ejv
[20:09] <bruce927> What if I tried dd to copy the disk image to my drive, then use a tool to make it bootable?
[20:09] <mzz> critical_thread: by default you don't have one. /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell which it uses, if any.
[20:09] <Some_Person> how do i reset ifconfig?
[20:09] <Halitech> critical_thread, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:09] <ejv> you're welcome sparr
[20:09] <libtech> bruce927: that should work too
[20:09] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Some_Person
[20:09] <bruce927> What app can I use to make it bootable?
[20:09] <Some_Person> I set an IP address and want it back to DHCP
[20:10] <padi999> hey guys!
[20:10] <ortsvorsteher> Some_Person: try system -> system settings -> network and enable there dhcp
[20:10] <ejv> Pyrophelia: http://dpaste.com/80197/
[20:10] <Halitech> Some_Person, how did you change it to static?
[20:10] <jedc> Some_Person: if you are connected, try sudo dhclient
[20:11] <ejv> Pyrophelia: the fact of the matter is that years ago, chips sucked, and mdadm was subject to latencies sure, but my performance suggests that mdadm is a viable alternative, and by the way i've got a low-end dual core AMD cpu. and those stats are a server with heavy load, 25+ users atm.
[20:11] <jgoo___ffs> guntbert, you want to read how much fail tehre is there? eh, can't be bothered to arrow back and fix my typo
[20:12] <padi999> Question: I want to setup a truecrypt encrypted server(partition) and wanted to ask, how I should go with the inbound connections from clients that access that server. FTP? VPN? SSH? Truecrypt mount via network? How to go for multiple users and passwords?
[20:12] <ejv> padi999: LUKS
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> fix it already, it was 2 months ago I had this problem with vnc
[20:12] <marwan> hallo, i need help with git, who can help me?
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> what the hell is up with tightvnc? I just redownloaded it, and it is still the same unsable bug with the keybaord mappings
[20:12] <jgoo___ffs> what the hell is wrong with it
[20:12] <ejv> jgoo___ffs: don't use vnc, use freenx
[20:13] <Pici> !attitude | jgoo___ffs
[20:13] <jgoo___ffs> and who is so anal that they have the floodbots remove ops from themselves? stop spamming the output with op status messages, just leave them at ops
[20:13] <apoleo12> Ok, when I have a friend over, using my machine and I have hiom on his own account.. and did fast-switching.... but evidently it frozed. and had to reboot... why is that? anyone had that problem?
[20:13] <Pyrophelia> ejv, what about physical limitations?  mdadm is limited by the sata that is physically on the mainboard?  I'm planing on starting with around 10 sata disks and with that number wouldn't if just be cheaper to get a dedicated raid/sata card?
[20:13] <jgoo___ffs> ejv, I am not using nx, because nx sucks if you have more than 10 windows open
[20:13] <__theIdiotBox> !attitude| jgoo___ffs
[20:14] <enthdegree> Hello! I'm running 9.04 crunchbang. Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps mysteriously terminate.
[20:14] <enthdegree> Help would be appreciated.
[20:14] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, use x over ssh
[20:14] <jgoo___ffs> __theIdiotBox, !stopSpammingYourAnalAttitudeAndQuitThePowerTripYouAreOnThereIsNothingWrongWithMyAttitudeChangeTheWayYouRead
[20:14] <Pyrophelia> ejv, I thought* mdadm is limited to the sata on the mainboard rather
[20:15] <enthdegree> This channel reads like it's drugged.
[20:16] <jgoo___ffs> Pici, __theIdiotBox, both of you stop being confrontational
[20:16] <jgoo___ffs> Halitech, I don't think that would work for me, thanks though
[20:16] <__theIdiotBox> !ohmy | jgoo___ffs
[20:16] <rd1381> is there anybody here that shares their firefox profile between windows and unubut?
[20:16] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, just a suggestion
[20:16] <mzz> rd1381: no, but consider using weave to sync data between the two
[20:16] <stefg> Pyrophelia: you can still use a 'fake raid' controller card to get more sata ports. The problem with hardware raid controllers is that they are a single point of failure. you can get your raid-set working on any machine with any controller if you use mdadm... try this in 5 years when your controller breaks and no compatible replacemant is available
[20:17] <ejv> Pyrophelia: you can purchase additional sata pci boards, for dirt cheap
[20:17] <ejv> stefg is correct
[20:17] <Kelder> rd1381: only through the xmarks firefox plugin
[20:17] <__theIdiotBox> Kelder: i guess he is expecting something else
[20:17] <Pyrophelia> I don't like this i'm starting to change my mind
[20:18] <enthdegree> rd1381: I used to do that (put it on a seperate partition) but there were too many contradictions between filesystems
[20:18] <ejv> Pyrophelia: don't buy anything. research research research. :)
[20:18] <NoMS_> stefg:  how do you set up a "fake raid" controller card? or at least do you have a site you can reference me to?
[20:18] <mzz> rd1381: if everything isn't careful to not use absolute paths it'll fail weirdly.
[20:18] <Mr_hide> hey, has anyone else been able to get surround sound working on ubuntu jaunty?
[20:18] <mzz> rd1381: from what I've heard firefox itself is pretty ok at that, but extensions may not be.
[20:18] <rd1381> Kelder: i used a guide to do it and it works fine , just one problem .every time i switch between systems firefox ,firefox thinks its a new version of firefox installed and checks for updates , how can i disable that?
[20:19] <ejv> NoMS_: what he most likely means is an additional pci/pci-E sata card with 4/6/8 ports, so you can mount additional block devices, and manage them with MDADM
[20:19] <enthdegree> eg I had set my cache to be in /dev/shm, which is the ram in ubuntu ( I think?) but of course, it means nothing in a regular windows install
[20:19] <ubuntistas> any toefl software for linux?
[20:19] <NoMS_> oh ok...  never heard of fake raid :)
[20:19] <enthdegree> Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps mysteriously terminate. I'm running Crunchbang 9.04. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:20] <stefg> NoMS_: fake raid is a term coined towards these Promise or onboard controllers, which still let the CPU do the math. These are geared towards windows, which does not have something like mdadm, so they fake it with a piece of hardware and a driver
[20:20] <jcapinc> I have a question about ssh, is there a proper channel anyone can direct those questions to?
[20:20] <variable> jcapinc, #openssh maybe ?
[20:20] <ortsvorsteher> just ask jcapinc
[20:21] <ejv> Pyrophelia: is this a home server you're planning, small office, enterprise?
[20:21] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: google it....if you cant let me know
[20:21] <variable> +J ?
[20:21] <Pyrophelia> small office
[20:21] <stefg> NoMS_: read abot dmraid
[20:21] <NoMS_> stefg:  I'll have to look into that.. thnx
[20:21] <apoleo12> Ok, when I have a friend over, using my machine and I have hiom on his own account.. and did fast-switching.... but evidently it frozed. and had to reboot... why is that? does anyone had that problem?
[20:21] <Pici> variable: join throttling, more mode information here: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[20:21] <jgoo___ffs> Halitech, first, I think that there would be a problem with the setup - i.e., it wouldn't work
[20:21] <jcapinc> I want to know how to run a very big process from ssh on a machine such that when the ssh connection is terminated, the process is still running on the machine
[20:21] <Pyrophelia> we need a raid server to store video's we've edited
[20:21] <ubuntistas> i can't
[20:21] <firecrotch> jcapinc: screen
[20:21] <ejv> Pyrophelia: oh i forgot to mention, that hdparm output, is with heavy layer of disk encryption
[20:22] <Pyrophelia> we have everything on 1TB firewires right now so if one fails we're out a lot of video
[20:22] <variable> Pici, I'm used to +j for that ... maybe its been too long since I admined :|
[20:22] <ejv> Pyrophelia: and it still performs like a champ :)
[20:22] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: wait a min...
[20:22] <variable> * not on freenode
[20:22] <ortsvorsteher> jcapinc: did you try to nohup? read the man page, may it is your solution
[20:22] <ejv> Pyrophelia: what I would do is purchase a 1U rack, for the host, then a 3 or 4U Norco rack for all the drives
[20:22] <variable> I'm attempting to install a ubuntu on a laptop - but the mouse is not moving
[20:23] <ejv> Pyrophelia: connect the 3U/4U rack as a SAN to the host, so if you ever make a change to the host, the drives are untouched
[20:23] <variable> This is my first time using ubuntu (I'm used to freeBSD) so I'm not sure what to try now
[20:23] <ejv> Pyrophelia: this also allows room for expandability
[20:23] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, ok, if you say so, I just offered it as a suggestion
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> but you don't have anything else running on the server do you?
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> I remember running a software raid with 2 500GB disks. via northbridge, amd 3500+
[20:23] <Pyrophelia> it was fine until I did ANYTHING on the server then HD throughput went to shit
[20:24] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I have some NX sessions going, some sftp, some ssl/tls vsftpd, and a lot of user processes, not cpu intensive jobs atm, no :)
[20:24] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: http://lmgtfy.org/?q=toefl+linux
[20:24] <ejv> Pyrophelia: it's a fileserver so most of the time it's swapping data, that's it's purpose :)
[20:24] <enthdegree> Whenever I run a fullscreen app like Battle for Wesnoth, all of my system tray apps (and perhaps others?) mysteriously terminate. I'm running Crunchbang 9.04. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:25] <heatmzzr> what is the command to mount a hdd in console?
[20:25] <__theIdiotBox> !patience | enthdegree
[20:25] <ejv> Pyrophelia: I'll bigfile from /dev/zero and record the performance for ya, brb
[20:25] <Kelder> heatmzzr /mount
[20:25] <jgoo___ffs> How can I fix the asdf abfh vnc ubuntu / gnome issue?
[20:25] <enthdegree> Ok, thanks. I just assumed nobody saw it. :P
[20:26] <__theIdiotBox> ubuntistas: did you look at that? need more help....
[20:26] <Mr_hide> hey, has anyone else been able to get surround sound working on ubuntu jaunty?
[20:26] <jgoo___ffs> Reproduce: 1) install ubuntu 2) install tightvncserver Expected results: works Problem: doesn't work, asdf is abfh - Since: Apr 2007
[20:26] <isiah> I am learning how to install software on linux without using programs like synaptic. Just stuff like tar and reading the install instructions. The test program I am working with is Xaos. I want to know what is the typical policy about what directory to install programs like this into.
[20:26] <caonima> 哈楼
[20:27] <iraj43> hi
[20:27] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ mount extra
[20:27] <heatmzzr> mount: can't find extra in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:27] <caonima> 有中国人么？
[20:27] <ubuntistas>  not yet
[20:27] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: you can define your separate directory to install programs...i use /opt for this purpose
[20:27] <caonima> 伤心
[20:27] <xF|ux> I have my ./network/interfaces set to static for eth0, however at random intervals it decides it wants to set the IP to something else.  I have already moved /etc/dhcp3 to a backup folder, but it's still resetting the eth0 device
[20:27] <theatro> heatmzzr, what is extra ?
[20:27] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: plz use english
[20:27] <heatmzzr> the name of the other drive
[20:27] <caonima> my english is poor
[20:28] <heatmzzr> im just wanting to mount it from a tty screen
[20:28] <danila> caonima, imagine our chinese :)
[20:28] <niko> caonima: using /msg alis list *ubuntu-* should help you to find appropriate channel
[20:28] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: as you are learning all these stuffs i would recommend using some new directory in your home...to play safe
[20:28] <caonima> hehe
[20:28] <fluurp> whats the adress from the network " abjects " ??
[20:28] <theatro> heatmzzr, mount /dev/sda1   <-- put your device node here, try that
[20:29] <anr78> I'm trying to set my uid and gid to what they are in os x, but run into problems as os x has given me gid 20, which ubuntu says "is not unique".
[20:29] <caonima> 你们哪里的干活？
[20:29] <stefg>  !cn
[20:29] <theatro> !ch | caonima
[20:29] <Pyrophelia> caonima: !cn
[20:29] <ubuntistas> not workin help
[20:29] <theatro> ops ch ..
[20:30] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: use this #ubuntu-cn
[20:30] <caonima> 。。
[20:30] <isiah> __theIdiotBox: Ok thank you. Do you think it will have problems with permission? Could the program if stored there access files in user accounts?
[20:30] <caonima> 我喜欢你们，朋友们
[20:30] <caonima> I LOVE UBUNTU
[20:30] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ mount /dev/sdb
[20:30] <heatmzzr> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[20:31] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: permisison might be an issue...so better make a directory and then give it full permission using sudo...that should fix the permission problem
[20:31] <ejv> Pyrophelia: here's a smaller server, 6 disk array via mdadm: http://dpaste.com/80208/ - writing from /dev/zero pool to a file, byte size 1 megabyte
[20:31] <shortcircuit> Quick question: Where do I find the pointer size settings in 9.04?  A google search for Ubuntu pointer size says it would be under "Customize Theme"->Pointer, but there's no slider there.
[20:31] <Halitech> jgoo___ffs, have you looked at these instructions? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564&highlight=vnc4server
[20:31] <theatro> heatmzzr, /dev/sdbX  where X is a number
[20:31] <alongenemylines> heatmzzr: you need to give it a dir to mount to
[20:31] <jedc> isiah, any program you have could access your user data if you are the one running it
[20:31] <__theIdiotBox> caonima: we all love ubuntu thats y we're here...
[20:31] <caonima> how to fix tar.gz file?
[20:31] <theatro> heatmzzr, fdisk -l /dev/sdb  to find what X you want
[20:32] <jrib> anr78: in debian/ubuntu uid/gid < 1000 are for system uses.  It's probably easier to change your uid/gid in os x to match your ubuntu one
[20:32] <__theIdiotBox> tar zxvf <tar.gz filena.e> : caonima
[20:32] <prefrontal> where is the user file that associates a user name with the account name?
[20:32] <isiah> jedc: Would it be a good idea to create a separate user account to test it?
[20:32] <jrib> prefrontal: /etc/passwd ... why?
[20:32] <prefrontal> so i can change it
[20:32] <prefrontal> tx
[20:32] <stefg> prefrontal: /etc/passwd ... don't you dare touching it ! :-)
[20:32] <bruce927> http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ could someone see if the instructions in this page work for them? They keyserver keeps timing out on me
[20:33] <prefrontal> hmm, this account isn't listed there but others are. is there another place?
[20:33] <__theIdiotBox> isiah: you can do that....but i think that is being way too much panicky...but yes it would be better option if you want to quite a lot of messy things...
[20:33] <ejv> Pyrophelia: as you can see, the number of write requests merged per second, that are queued to the device (wrqm/s) is VERY stable across the array
[20:33] <heatmzzr> heatmzzr@heatmzzr-laptop:/media$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[20:33] <heatmzzr> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:33] <heatmzzr> Disk identifier: 0x5d379805
[20:33] <FloodBot2> heatmzzr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <heatmzzr>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[20:33] <jrib> prefrontal: use chfn.
[20:33] <pik}> bruce927: yes, worked for me yesterday
[20:33] <prefrontal> jrib thanks
[20:34] <jrib> prefrontal: is the account special in some way?  It should be in /etc/passwd ...
[20:34] <ejv> Pyrophelia: even with heavy cryptographic overhead ;)
[20:34] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: Well my goal is to learn how to do it like a sysadmin would. So I want to make sure it could be usable for multiple users
[20:34] <Halitech> bruce927, why not sudo ap-get install pidgin from the repo?
[20:34] <prefrontal> jrib, i think it is a kerberos name?
[20:35] <jrib> prefrontal: oh, yeah if it's some sort of network setup then I'm not sure
[20:35] <stefg> Pyrophelia: how are you going to serve that space to the clients, BTW? nfs?
[20:35] <ejv> stefg: I'd imagine most small office setups use windows in some way, so I'd be thinking cifs mounts :)
[20:36] <heatmzzr> when i click on places it shows the other hdd, when i click on it it asks for a password... what im asking is how to mount that drive without doing that... from terminal or tty screen
[20:36] <anr78> jrib: true
[20:36] <Bad_Girl> hi!
[20:36] <stefg> ejv: yup.... in that case he'll anyway won't have the problem of mdadm degrading the performance ... network will be the bottleneck
[20:37] <CppIsWeird> when downloading ubuntu server i see options for 64bit and 32bit versions, but when i click on bittorrent i only see amd64 and i386, does this mean there is only a 64bit version for amd-64?
[20:37] <jedc> isiah, i dont know what the preffered directories are for that sort of thing, but i usually but the directory in /usr/local/lib and an executable script in /usr/local/bin
[20:37] <jrib> CppIsWeird: amd64 is just what the architecture it is called.  You can use it on intel
[20:37] <ejv> stefg: yea my statistics are basically to prove the point that even with a cheap cpu, software managed raid, and slow 100mbit network, mdadm is viable.
[20:37] <__theIdiotBox> hi: Bad_Girl
[20:37] <ejv> stefg: (and stable) lol
[20:37] <dr3mro> did any one here tried ubuntu 9.04 on lenovo ideapad s10
[20:38] <CppIsWeird> jrib, orly, then how come when i try to install the amd64 version on my xeon server it says i have the wrong architecture.
[20:38] <Alfred_Nonymous> hello guys
[20:38] <stefg> dr3mro: i have 3 s10e's running as mobile thin clients at my work
[20:38] <__theIdiotBox> hello: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:38] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have a (I think quite simple) question
[20:38] <bruce927> thanks halitech, but the keyserver finally responded
[20:38] <ejv> dr3mro: they are typical intel based machines, should work fine using ubuntu 9.04
[20:39] <__theIdiotBox> don't ask to ask, just ask: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:39] <Alfred_Nonymous> okay
[20:39] <daryl__> CppIsWeird, are you sure you have the 64bit versions?
[20:39] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have a linux server (ubuntu server edition)
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> and I just can't mount my sandisk cruzer micro
[20:40] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: Ok reading the Install files it says that make command will place all binary files in home, so I am changing this to /opt
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> I tried all SDA, SDB, SDC and SDD's
[20:40] <Alfred_Nonymous> but none of them get recognized as FAT
[20:40] <jrib> CppIsWeird: what processor exactly?
[20:40] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | Alfred_Nonymous
[20:40] <stefg> Alfred_Nonymous: read dmesg
[20:40] <__theIdiotBox> do you have that drive right now: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:41] <Alfred_Nonymous> _theIdiotBox: yes
[20:41] <x3017> exit
[20:41] <ejv> CppIsWeird: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[20:41] <ivalladt> how do I know if my CPU can run Ubuntu x64?
[20:41] <kkaji`>  If you have some time, please just click on this link -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800  Thanks ;)
[20:41] <Halitech> Alfred_Nonymous, did you install hal and udev?
[20:41] <__theIdiotBox> Alfred_Nonymous: plug that and run this command : dmesg|tail  and then put the output @pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <jrib> CppIsWeird: here's the blurb from the amd64 version: Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2).
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> BRB, plugging in my server, I moved it, a few times
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> btw, other usb sticks do work
[20:42] <Alfred_Nonymous> also, why the hell do I keep getting #ubuntu :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[20:43] <ejv> Alfred_Nonymous: because you're not registered/haven't identified
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> I am registered and identified
[20:43] <stefg> !register | Alfred_Nonymous
[20:43] <__theIdiotBox> you have register your nick : Alfred_Nonymous
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> I did trough nickserv
[20:43] <ejv> you're not
[20:43] <ejv> do it again dude
[20:43] <ejv> :)
[20:43] <Alfred_Nonymous> seriously?
[20:44] <lstarnes> ejv: that is not necessary
[20:44] <__theIdiotBox> yeh: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> You are already logged in as Alfred_Nonymous.
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: if you know that you are registered and identified, just ignore the message
[20:44] <kkaji`>  If you have some time, please just click on this link -  http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800  Thanks ;)
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: wait, you aren't fully registered
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> freenode Nickname Registration
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> 				
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> 	Inbox		X	
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> 				
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> Reply to all
[20:44] <ejv> when i whois myself i see: "is identified to services"
[20:44] <FloodBot2> Alfred_Nonymous: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <Alfred_Nonymous> Forward
[20:44] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: please check your email for the verification code
[20:44] <ejv> i don't see "is identified to services" with his username
[20:44] <Pici> !ot
[20:44] <GPL> which firewall does ubuntu uses, and how can i get access to it ?
[20:45] <lstarnes> ejv: his nick hasn't been verified
[20:45] <lstarnes> GPL: iptables or ufw
[20:45] <ejv> lstarnes: well there ya go
[20:45] <lstarnes> GPL: both may be accessed through the terminal
[20:45] <ejv> lol
[20:45] <GPL> lstarnes: thanks
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> Thank you for your interest in the freenode IRC network.
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> This email was sent due to a command from Alfred_Nonymous[n=damasta@ip5653e475.direct-adsl.nl]
[20:45] <ejv> any way to ignore FloodBot(N)
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> at Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:39:02 +0000.
[20:45] <Pici> Alfred_Nonymous: stop
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> If this message is spam, please contact support@freenode.net
[20:45] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: do not paste the email!
[20:45] <Alfred_Nonymous> with a full copy.
[20:46] <lstarnes> Alfred_Nonymous: just do the "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Alfred_Nonymous random-string" part
[20:46] <Pici> Alfred_Nonymous: This is not a regitration support channel, please ask in #freenode if you are having issues registering
[20:46] <satya2881988>  how can i automatically mount all the drives in my computer on system startup
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> why so much banning/unbanning going on?
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> satya2881988: use fstab
[20:47] <variable> I'm attempting to install a ubuntu on a laptop - but the mouse is not moving. This is my first time using ubuntu (I'm used to freeBSD) so I'm not sure what to try now;
[20:47] <ejv> better yet, any way to ignore FloodBot(N) or ignore channel mode/ban adjustments via irssi? :)
[20:47] <variable> google fails to provide useful information
[20:47] <dwn> can I mount my usb drive for ubuntu live rootfs to free more ram? if yes how
[20:47] <__theIdiotBox> yes: dwn
[20:47] <variable> ejv, I don't rememember the command right now but I know its possible to ignore channel info - man irssi
[20:48] <SealedWithAKiss> When I attempt to manually restart Tor via the terminal using the command /etc/init.d/tor restart I am asked for my SU password. I enter what I believe to be my SU password, although I can't be 100% sure, and it's saying that it's incorrect. When I run sudo things are fine. How come?
[20:48] <lstarnes> variable: not entirely
[20:48] <lstarnes> ejv: see /help ignore
[20:48] <joaopinto> variable, can you use the keys is just really the mouse which does not move  ?
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo and su are not the same
[20:48] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: I'm guessing it's an option when you boot the session from cd?
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: use sudo -i instead of su
[20:48] <variable> joaopinto, I can't test the keys as the pointer isn't on anything clickable
[20:48] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: or sudo -i -u user instead of su user
[20:48] <__theIdiotBox> i guess so: dwn
[20:48] <unop> SealedWithAKiss, su prompts for root's password, sudo for yours
[20:48] <joaopinto> variable, try: CTRL-ALT-F1 to swithc to a text console
[20:48] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: I've tried googling but could find it, any idea how it's done? any link would help
[20:48] <variable> hang on
[20:48] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, they give you them same rights on the machine though right? Root privs?
[20:49] <joaopinto> variable, ALT-F2 should also show a run window
[20:49] <ejv> lstarnes: well i think if i can figure out channel mode ignore, i have no reason to ignore flood bot, even with floodbot ignored, it'll still show me mode/ban changes lol
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> using DMESG I only get wlan0
[20:49] <__theIdiotBox> okey...wait a min: dwn
[20:49] <satya2881988> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:49] <satya2881988> #
[20:49] <satya2881988> # Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[20:49] <satya2881988> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[20:49] <satya2881988> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[20:49] <satya2881988> #
[20:49] <joaopinto> variable, CTRL-ALT-F6 to get back to the graphical window
[20:49] <satya2881988> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:49] <satya2881988> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:49] <satya2881988> # / was on /dev/sda8 during installation
[20:49] <satya2881988> UUID=7239d6bb-806b-4ae2-9a8d-a3fff5f76bf1 /               ext4    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:49] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, why does Tor need the root password to restart?
[20:49] <satya2881988> # swap was on /dev/sda4 during installation
[20:49] <satya2881988> UUID=a0308092-a4dd-4e9a-b56d-88392f830951 none            swap    sw              0       0
[20:49] <dwn> lol
[20:49] <satya2881988> # swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
[20:49] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: I think so
[20:49] <__theIdiotBox> satya2881988: plz use pastebin instead of spamming here
[20:49] <dwn> satya2881988: use pastebin
[20:49] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: tor requires root access for certain operations
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> oh, whoops
[20:49] <ejv> what is with the pasting here today, holy crap
[20:49] <variable> joaopinto, ttyv1 --> "Please wait.. Loading"; ttyv2 --> terminal
[20:49] <Alfred_Nonymous> I just found the problem
[20:49] <variable> should I restart moused ?
[20:50] <ejv> !irc-etiquette | EVERYONE
[20:50] <ejv> FAIL
[20:50] <__theIdiotBox> ejv: seems a lot of new guys unaware of pastebin are hanging around, :-)
[20:50] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, it can get that by taking the password for my account. Gives the same rights. I don't know...I'll try su -i
[20:50] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo -i, not su -i
[20:50] <__theIdiotBox> what is the problem: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:50] <ejv> good think im not in charge, i'd gline everyone, no mercy
[20:50] <ejv> :)
[20:50] <ejv> s/think/thing
[20:50] <variable> joaopinto, what debug info do you need ?
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> the problem is the stick emulates a cd drive
[20:51] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: sudo and su are two entirely different systems. The only similarity is that they run things as other users
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> disabling that from windows solves that problem
[20:51] <stefg> variable: there is no moused... what hardware are we dealing with here? are you using X or console?
[20:51] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: any keywords that I could google? I tired things like "mounting root fs" or "usb as root fs ubuntu live" but haven't found anything
[20:51] <satya2881988> how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[20:51] <__theIdiotBox> cool: Alfred_Nonymous
[20:51] <Alfred_Nonymous> and now I can just mount it using sdb1
[20:51] <joaopinto> variable, is it a usb mouse ?
[20:51] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: any info would help, I'm guessing you done it before ;p
[20:51] <variable> joaopinto, stefg, attemping to install ubuntu on a laptop
[20:52] <variable> the installer uses X
[20:52] <__theIdiotBox> did it long way back: dwn
[20:52] <joaopinto> variable, you can use the alternate cd and install using text
[20:52] <SealedWithAKiss> lstarnes, I can't use sudo -i it's saying /etc/init.d/tor not found now. When I just run '/etc/init.d/tor restart' the terminal skips and newline and reads: Password:
[20:52] <dwn> __theIdiotBox: ok well at least I know it's possible
[20:52] <variable> joaopinto, anything I could do to fix the mouse ?
[20:52] <lstarnes> SealedWithAKiss: remove the -i
[20:52] <joaopinto> variable, you could try to figure why is it not detected
[20:52] <Alfred_Nonymous> I have one other problem on my laptop, but I think that's a hardware problem
[20:53] <variable> joaopinto, I'd like to go that route - but I'm not sure where to start on ubuntu
[20:53] <stefg> variable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig could help
[20:53] <joaopinto> variable, is it an usb mouse ?
[20:53] <variable> joaopinto, its a touchpad
[20:53] <joaopinto> oh, no idea what it's expected to be identified :\
[20:54] <Cpudan80> OK guys
[20:54] <Cpudan80> I oops
[20:54] <Cpudan80> wrong channel
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> yes even i'm googling and trying to recollect : dwn
[20:54] <joaopinto> variable, you did some research on google for your laptop mobile and linux right ?
[20:54] <variable> joaopinto, yep
[20:54] <joaopinto> since your problem is hw specific :\
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> okey: Cpudan80
[20:54] <joaopinto> variable, what is your laptop model ?
[20:54] <Freeman_> hi guys
[20:54] <__theIdiotBox> hello: Freeman_
[20:55] <genesimmons> anyone know how to setup snmp client on ubuntu 9.04 for monitoring with cacti
[20:55] <variable> joaopinto, lenovo G530
[20:55] <MindSpark> hi, I did a very stupid mistake which is removing the python2.6 file from /usr/bin/.Now most apps won't work. Can anyone help me on how to get it back ?
[20:55] <satya2881988> how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[20:55] <ejv> MindSpark: try reinstalling?
[20:55] <Freeman_> I have a problem I want to run a Steam update over ssh with my laptop but everytime when I quit with putty the job on steam also stops
[20:55] <MOUD> Hey all
[20:55] <ceil420> man fstab
[20:56] <Freeman_> what I could do against that problem
[20:56] <ceil420> man mount
[20:56] <MindSpark> ejv, how do I do that from commandline ?
[20:56] <ceil420> man pages in general are a great help
[20:56] <ejv> MindSpark: try reinstalling python*
[20:56] <stefg> variable: for a function test you can run sudo cat /dev/input/mice , move the finger over the touchpad an see, if you get some console output
[20:56] <variable> let me do that now - hang on
[20:56] <ejv> MindSpark: sudo aptitude remove python && aptitude install python
[20:56] <ortsvorsteher> Freeman_: did you try start your process with nohup in front? man nohup
[20:57] <__theIdiotBox> Freeman_: make it run in the background...just append a & and nohup...thats it
[20:57] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[20:57] <variable> stefg, no output on mice move or mouse-click
[20:57] <Freeman_> no thats the problem it does not work
[20:57] <Freeman_> steam stops :-(
[20:57] <__theIdiotBox> Luisito: #ubuntu-en
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> use nohup < command to run steam> & : Freeman_
[20:58] <Freeman_> I have tried it when I go on logout or exit in putty the steam program on my linux server stops
[20:58] <Freeman_> nohup ./steam &
[20:58] <Freeman_> like this?
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> using nohup assures it;ll keep running even if you logout from the sys: Freeman_
[20:58] <Freeman_> ok I try again
[20:58] <__theIdiotBox> yes that is enough: Freeman_
[20:59] <stefg> variable: alright... so touchpad isn't sending data. are hardware issues ruled out (usually micer and touchpads just work, at least partially)
[20:59] <MOUD> how can I make compiz to show on my Applications list?
[20:59] <jgoo___ffs> is a vnc connection resumable? i..e if I shutdown my laptop now, can I reconnect to this display (and stop using overloaded words, ffs)
[20:59] <variable> stefg, this is a new computer; the mice worked on the initial windows boot
[20:59] <stefg> variable: what computer is that?
[20:59] <__theIdiotBox> install compiz-config-manager: MOUD
[21:00] <variable> Steffy, lenovo G530
[21:00] <MOUD> __theIdiotBox: thanks
[21:00] <Freeman_> no it does not work :-(
[21:00] <__theIdiotBox> MOUD: u're welcome
[21:00] <Freeman_> that is weird
[21:00] <__theIdiotBox> it shud: Freeman_
[21:00] <Freeman_> shit damn do not understand that
[21:01] <VCoolio> MOUD: compizconfig-settings-manager that is
[21:01] <__theIdiotBox> what is the message you're getting: Freeman_
[21:01] <ortsvorsteher> !language | freeman_
[21:01] <__theIdiotBox> VCoolio: yeh thats right...thatst eh one i was talking about
[21:01] <xlq> Is there *somewhere* I can get libasound_module_pcm_jack.so? The Ubuntu package maintainers kindly neglected it.
[21:01] <stefg> variable: that should just work... but i'm reading that there's a sensor switch to turn the touchpad off on that machine
[21:02] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: check/google in ubuntu package listing
[21:02] <stefg> variable: it'S probybly just switched off (or some acpi/firmaware setting disabled it)
[21:02] <dbugger> Hello guys! Im thinking of starting a new app project and I was wondering, what is the slickest (free) GUI toolkit out there? I wish I could use WPF... :(
[21:02] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: there's nothing in the main Ubuntu packages :(
[21:02] <variable> stefg, I see it: the icon looks like a broadcast icon. I thought that was for the built-in wireless card :|
[21:03] <variable> dbugger, allegro and FLTK are really easy to use
[21:03] <variable> but it depends on what kind of project
[21:03] <scootles> Can someone here help me? I'm trying to crack a WEP encryption and I have a question
[21:03] <dbugger> variable, thanks, but im not going for "easy" rather than good looking
[21:03] <dbugger> I want to make an IRC client
[21:03] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: googling dint help either?
[21:03] <tread> newbie question: is there a way for me a see a list of all devices connected to my computer,  not just mounted ones?
[21:03] <spO> isw there any other keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[21:04] <variable> scootles, don't ask to ask; just ask
[21:04] <variable> dbugger, FLTK; QT; GTK
[21:04] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: indeed
[21:04] <variable> there might be others
[21:04] <__theIdiotBox> run lshw: tread
[21:04] <FloodBot1> variable: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <dbugger> variable, which would you say looks better?
[21:04] <__theIdiotBox> okey, let me google it : xlq
[21:04] <variable> dbugger, they are all themeable - although I'd say don't use FLTK if you want supreme customizability
[21:05] <scootles> variable, I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it.
[21:05] <spO> is there another keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:05] <xlq> spO: there are loads
[21:05] <dbugger> I guess in the end with linux it all comes down to Qt or GTK
[21:05] <isiah> it worked! Haha victory is mine!
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: and wx, tk and various others...
[21:06] <__theIdiotBox> what worked? isiah
[21:06] <tread> __theIdiotBox, well that will show me that I have a USB port, but i'm trying to figure out why my USB drive isn't being recognized (I plug it in, nothing happens.. not sure if or how it's formatted, but i don't want to lose data without knowing what's on it)
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: and fltk
[21:06] <variable> dbugger, well allegro is cross-platform - but its for game programming
[21:06] <dbugger> xlq, but what im asking is (and I know this goes for opinions) which one looks better
[21:06] <variable> dbugger, and there are others - I only mention the ones I used
[21:06] <xlq> dbugger: both Qt and GTK+ are completely themeable
[21:07] <variable> dbugger, google them; look at screen shots; choose for yourself
[21:07] <__theIdiotBox> tread: put to pastebin > dmesg|tail
[21:07] <isiah> _theIdiotBox: the program. I am a little confused about why it installed some stuff in my /usr/local/bin
[21:07] <xlq> dbugger: are you writing GUI apps?
[21:07] <dbugger> xlq, yeahp
[21:07] <xlq> dbugger: looks really isn't a concern.
[21:07] <dbugger> I've been programming recently with windows forms and I hate it so much now
[21:07] <spO> do any of you know any other keyserver besides keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:07] <scootles> I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it.
[21:08] <xlq> dbugger: GTK+ is written in C, Qt is C++. They have quite different paradigms. GTK+ has C++ bindings (called gtkmm) which are more C++-ish than Qt is.
[21:08] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: googling says that file was missingin hardy as well...let me google a bit more
[21:08] <scootles> I'm new to cracking wep encryption, and I'm finding that some WiFi cards just can't do it and I'm trying to find out if mine(Realtek RTL8192E) can do it. Can anyone help me?
[21:08] <kekeke> is there any way to get the default list of repositories for ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[21:08] <xlq> dbugger: it's much more important to like the API than to worry about how they might look.
[21:08] <Some_Person> I have 2 ubuntu machines and an ethernet cable. How can I get files from one to the other?
[21:08] <dbugger> I have to disagree. I think the main problem of linux is that it's too ugly. That's why we dont get more users.
[21:08] <__theIdiotBox> Some_Person: cross connecting through cross-cabling
[21:08] <dbugger> Anyway, I was planing of writing it either in Mono or Phyton
[21:08] <xlq> Some_Person: You need a special ethernet cable called a crossover cable, unless one of your computers' ethernet ports has auto-crossover.
[21:09] <Some_Person> xlq: Well I don't have that
[21:09] <tread> __theIdiotBox, http://pastebin.com/d26373eb5
[21:09] <stefg> Some_Person: so you have smart NIC's that dont need a crossover cable i suppose?
[21:09] <Some_Person> stefg: Nope
[21:09] <__theIdiotBox> tread: okey let me see that..wait a min
[21:09] <xlq> Some_Person: you might, they're getting more and more common
[21:09] <Some_Person> I have a cheap laptop form last year and an old desktop from 2002
[21:09] <lexo_great> hello
[21:09] <Talha> I'm a little confused that "/set irc_hide_version on" doesn't work on "xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu".
[21:09] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | lexo_great
[21:10] <Talha> Any thoughts?
[21:10] <VCoolio> kekeke: open /etc/apt/sources.list and skip what you added yourself (that will be the lower part)
[21:10] <stefg> Some_Person: so first of all you'll have to check if the leds go on on the nic if you plu gin the cable.... if not you have no physical connection
[21:10] <variable> stefg, turning it on and rebooting fails to fix it
[21:10] <lexo_great> hi
[21:10] <Some_Person> stefg: The laptop has no lights
[21:10] <kekeke> VCoolio i didn't add anything, when i got this machine it had a custom repos list :(
[21:10] <stefg> variable: checked bios?
[21:10] <lexo_great> hello
[21:10] <dbugger> xlq, what does Google Chromium use?
[21:10] <__theIdiotBox> tread: did you ran the command right after plugging the usb stick?
[21:11] <__theIdiotBox> lexo_great: hi
[21:11] <firecrotch> Some_Person: just plug the cable into both computers, and do tail /var/log/dmesg
[21:11] <xlq> dbugger: no clue
[21:11] <tread> __theIdiotBox, yes, I even unplugged it and plugged it back in just to get a fresh tail to paste for you.
[21:11] <stefg> Some_Person: do the boxes have some IP set already ?
[21:11] <variable> stefg, no option to disable
[21:11] <spO> what alternative keyserver do you guys use instead of keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[21:11] <Some_Person> stefg: The laptop is connected to the internet via wifi.
[21:12] <Some_Person> stefg: Desktop has no connection
[21:12] <__theIdiotBox> okey, but i dont see anything that mentions the stick: tread
[21:12] <Some_Person> stefg: I have not set up anything in regards to ethernet
[21:12] <satya2881988> anyone there?
[21:12] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | satya2881988
[21:12] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: I'll try compiling from source
[21:12] <stefg> Some_Person: so run ifconfig on both machines and see what (if any) IP they got
[21:12] <tread> __theIdiotBox, it's a Logitech.. the last lilne of the tail I gave you says "Logitech USB Receiver"
[21:12] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: may be you need to pull it off from some rpm?
[21:13]  * variable tries with an external mouse
[21:13] <xlq> stefg: surely that won't work, unless one of them is magically running a dhcp server..
[21:13] <__theIdiotBox> tread: okey ....lemme c that
[21:13] <Some_Person> stefg: neither has an IP on ethernet
[21:13] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: an rpm? In Ubuntu?!
[21:13] <stefg> xlq: i know... :-)
[21:13] <__theIdiotBox> xlq: use alien to convert that to .deb and then use it directly or pull off whatever file you want
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: err, no way
[21:14] <variable> nope
[21:14] <satya2881988>  how can i change fstab so that my comp drives autometically mount on startup
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: this is an ALSA module we're talking about, not some script.
[21:14] <variable> thanks all
[21:14] <Guest68457> ahola busco amigos
[21:14] <__theIdiotBox> some .so is missing , right?: xlq
[21:14] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: yeah
[21:14] <xlq> I'm going to try compiling from source.
[21:14] <tread> __theIdiotBox, there's nothing but what I already showed you.  but it does say "Logitech USB Receiver" on the pastebin I already showed you.
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: well, thanks for helping so far anyway
[21:15] <kekeke> is there any way to get the default list of repositories for ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[21:15] <VCoolio> kekeke: by default only two repos are enabled: jaunty main and jaunty-updates main; the universe, multiverse, backports need to be enabled by the user but are already in sources.list but commented out; there are also repos with 'security' in it, about them I don't know
[21:15] <kekeke> :o
[21:15] <kekeke> ;p;
[21:15] <kekeke> lol
[21:15] <FloodBot1> kekeke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <__theIdiotBox> u're welcome: xlq
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: well, I'll be honest here, I actually tried nicking Debian's version :D
[21:15] <xlq> __theIdiotBox: it half worked, but then got stuck.
[21:15] <satya2881988>  how can i change fstab so that my disk drives automatically mount on start up
[21:16] <stefg> Some_Person: sou you have to assign an IP on the same subnet to both machines ... try 192.168.1.1 for one, and 192.168.1.2 for the other
[21:16] <__theIdiotBox> ohh no : xlq
[21:16] <kekeke> ok VCoolio thanks
[21:16] <Guest68457> hello
[21:16] <satya2881988> plz help me how can i change fstab so that my disk drives automatically mount on start up
[21:16] <__theIdiotBox> then better put it on launchpad: xlq
[21:16] <Some_Person> stefg: How do I do that? The laptop is running Jaunty, and the desktop is running the one with the duck as the default wallpaper
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: with the Ethernet cable between the two computers, does "ifconfig" show "NO CARRIER"?
[21:17] <VCoolio> satya2881988: "/dev/something /media/mountpoint <type, eg ntfs-3g> defaults,user 0 0"
[21:17] <__theIdiotBox> www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html : satya2881988
[21:17] <Some_Person> xlq: No
[21:17] <will> how do i install Dust-extras-0.3.tar.gz and Dust-0.3.tar.gz
[21:17] <kingmanor> is there a command line battery meter for laptops?
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: that's good
[21:17] <__theIdiotBox> what do you need that? kingmanor
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: now, you can assign IP addresses to the interfaces, and then set up some routes
[21:17] <Some_Person> xlq: How?
[21:17] <xlq> Some_Person: yeah, that's the problem though :P
[21:17] <kingmanor> i have ubuntu server running on an old laptop
[21:18] <__theIdiotBox> okey guys...m moving out....c ya
[21:18] <Some_Person> xlq: The laptop is running Jaunty, and the desktop is running the one with the duck as the default wallpaper
[21:18] <VCoolio> will: those are themes? drag and drop in the appearance window
[21:18] <xlq> Some_Person: it's a heron, and it's Hardy.
[21:18] <stevieman> Is there a easy to follow guide on how to format a drive using xfs? Google isn't returning anything useful
[21:18] <teimu> can anyone recommend a terminal irc client? i'd like it to be like bitchx if at all possible (which doesn't seem to work anymore).
[21:18] <stefg> Some_Person: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7#Adding%20Wired%20connections
[21:18] <kingmanor> nvm i found it
[21:18] <xlq> teimu: irssi seems popular these days
[21:18] <Dunge> I started two compilation at once (one in gterm, another in anjuta). Gnome and all inputs completly froze, I can't select a window, the time clock froze, I can't press ctrl+alt+x to change tty... but HD is flashing fast and seems working... any way I can pause something so I get some response?
[21:19] <stevieman> I've tried mkfs -t vfs /dev/sdb but I get some message about using -f option, which doesn't seem to do anything
[21:19] <teimu> xlq, thanks for the tip. ill check that out
[21:19] <Some_Person> xlq: No it's not hardy
[21:19] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, well, whatever. It doesn't matter.
[21:19] <stevieman> whoops that should be xfs not vfs
[21:20] <geirha> stevieman: mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: are either of these computers connected to the Internet?
[21:20] <stefg> Some_Person: after you gave your ubuntu box a fixed IP you can then try to ping it from the other box... if that fails, your cable does't work
[21:20] <will> VCoolio, i get the message can not move direvtory over directory when i do that
[21:20] <Some_Person> xlq: The laptop is, via wifi
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: I see.
[21:20] <CountDown> I'm looking for a free font that supports real small caps on Ubuntu.  Any suggestions?
[21:20] <VCoolio> will: then there is already a folder Dust, which makes sense, Dust is default, check /usr/share/themes
[21:20] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive?
[21:20] <xlq> Some_Person: I'd probably do something like: "ip addr add 192.168.1.125 dev eth0" on the laptop, and "ip addr add 192.168.1.126 dev eth0" on the desktop.
[21:21] <VCoolio> will: extract the tars you have and copy the contents to there
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: then I'd set up a route, I think that's something like "route add 192.168.1.126 dev eth0" on the laptop
[21:21] <CountDown> Also, anyone know how Ubuntu works on the new Dell Adamo?
[21:21] <Some_Person> xlq: Will this conflict with my existing network connection on the laptop?
[21:21] <xlq> and "route add 192.168.1.125 dev eth0" on the desktop
[21:21] <stevieman> geirha: well look at that, apparently I somehow got it to work cause mkfs.xfs is telling me the drive is already formatted with xfs, huh, weird
[21:21] <VCoolio> will: if necessary that is
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: if I've got it right, it won't, but I could have got it wrong ;)
[21:21] <KittyBoots> I am running ubuntu 9.04, when I make flash video full screen it hesitates, how to I fix this?
[21:21] <anr78> !hfs
[21:21] <xlq> Some_Person: if the worst comes to the worst, you can reboot.
[21:21] <stevieman> geirha: Thanks anyways ;)
[21:21] <Some_Person> xlq: ok, i'll try it
[21:22] <xlq> KittyBoots: you can't
[21:22] <Some_Person> i should run these with sudo, right?
[21:22] <xlq> KittyBoots: alternatively you can use youtube-dl or flashgot to download the video and play it with a proper media player, for example mplayer
[21:22] <xlq> Some_Person: yes
[21:22] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive, but /home is on HDD
[21:23] <VCoolio> KittyBoots: "it hesitates" <-- what do you mean? it plays badly or not at all?
[21:23] <KittyBoots> VCoolio: it plays but very terrible
[21:24] <will> when i extract dust am d drag and drop i get the same error message
[21:24] <buch> xlq: sad but true. but id dont get it - Mac OS can handle it but why cant linux with firefox?
[21:24] <xlq> buch: is it the same version of libflashplayer? I don't know. Adobe's fault.
[21:24] <buch> Well i do know the adobe is slacking with their updates
[21:24] <Some_Person> xlq: on the last command, desktop says "add: Unknown host"
[21:24] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry, what command was that?
[21:24] <anr78> Berzerker: do you have a line in your /etc/fstab for mounting your osx partition?
[21:24] <DoomHack2009> hello
[21:24] <Some_Person> oh nvm typed it wrong
[21:25] <VCoolio> KittyBoots: ok then I quit, I'm no flash guru and besides I hate it; installing the adobe flash plugin from their site may help according to several in this room
[21:25] <Some_Person> xlq: Ok, now what?
[21:25] <hmm1233> hi. how can I make a partition mountpoint /boot?
[21:25] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, type "ping 192.168.1.126"
[21:25] <stefg> KittyBoots: what does lspci | grep VGA tell you ?
[21:25] <Some_Person> xlq: It's working
[21:25] <trainer> Hi I am getting no sound on my Dell Vostro A90 with Ubuntu NBR 9.04, I followed the fix detailed here with no success: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/368629
[21:25] <detrate-> anyone in there running an nvidia card that supports opengl 3?
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: yay!
[21:26] <stefg> !intelhda | trainer
[21:26] <will> i just now fixed my flash problem all i had to do was install restricted extras package
[21:26] <insanitybin> Hello, I have a problem where the sound only comes out of my speakers and never out of my headset. In gnome-volume-control, I have my headset selected. In alsamixer, it also has my headset selected. I don't know how to fix this.
[21:26] <ninjaslim> i have a pc running Ubuntu and a MacBook Pro, i have both connected to each other via ethernet cable as i want Ubuntu to use the Mac's internet connection, i have it setup on the Mac side, but can't get configuration right on the Ubuntu side, it connects and then disconnects intermittently
[21:26] <netsurf3> hi can anyone help me, on resume from suspend the shutdown dialog strobes until i kill hal-input
[21:26] <Some_Person> xlq: Now how do I use that to send files from the desktop to the laptop?
[21:26] <bdelin881> i would like to save the ls information of a directory a file (print to file), what is the command for that again?
[21:26] <bdelin881> ^[SIMPLE Question]
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: now, you have a network connection between the two computers. So, you can transfer files however you would normally.
[21:26] <xlq> Some_Person: the simplest way I find is to run a small HTTP server (like thttpd)
[21:26] <KittyBoots> stefg: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[21:26] <VCoolio> bdelin881: >
[21:26] <_Adam__> Hello, any tips for running ubuntu from a USB pen drive, but /home is on HDD? nope?
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: or alternatively you could use samba.
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: or, for one file at a time, you could use netcat!
[21:27] <mylogic> anyone else notice that empathy's spellcheck is horrible?
[21:27] <VCoolio> bdelin881: ls /blah > /path/file
[21:27] <bdelin881> VCoolio: i don't think it all came through what you were typing
[21:27] <stefg> KittyBoots: i see, you're suffering from bad intel video performance in jaunty ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[21:27] <xlq> Some_Person: it's also not too difficult to now connect the desktop to the Internet through the laptop.
[21:27] <Some_Person> xlq: Which is easiest/fastest?
[21:27] <bdelin881> VCoolio: oh there it is, thanks man
[21:28] <dutchie> http://pastebin.com/f538abf1 is this likely to be a hardware failure? (dmesg | tail)
[21:28] <xlq> Some_Person: can you describe in more detail what you want to do? Then I can recommend a way.
[21:28] <ninjaslim> i have a pc running Ubuntu and a MacBook Pro, i have both connected to each other via ethernet cable as i want Ubuntu to use the Mac's internet connection, i have it setup on the Mac side, but can't get configuration right on the Ubuntu side, it connects and then disconnects intermittently
[21:28] <Some_Person> xlq: I need to send files from somebody elses computer that I'm about to format to my laptop so I can restore the files after reinstalling Windows
[21:28] <netsurf3> _Adam__, sounds crazy but the ubuntu netbook remix will probably increase the length of the usb disk. just set it to use normal desktop mode. you may want lxde though since usb drives tend to be dog slow! it should be as simple as editing the /etc/fstab and saying where the home partition is though
[21:28] <xlq> ninjaslim: LOL
[21:28] <xlq> ninjaslim: I'm helping Some_Person with quite a similar thing :)
[21:28] <VCoolio> bdelin881: > creates new content in file; >> add at the end of the contents so doesn't overwrite
[21:29] <spO> i am using x64 bit ubuntu, but my system reports only 3.6-3.7 gb of ram , but i have 4gb of ram installed!
[21:29] <yaaar> does the ubuntu samba package have ldap support?
[21:29] <spO> how come i lost ram?
[21:29] <Some_Person> xlq: Normally I would use a flash drive, but the USB connector broke off of mine today
[21:29] <netsurf3> sp0 do you have an intergrated graphics card?
[21:29] <yaaar> spO; is it ECC ram?
[21:29] <_Adam__> cheers netsurf3, and that has all the repos? I would like to run apache and webmin
[21:29] <ninjaslim> xlq: oh
[21:29] <ejv> onboard vga slurping up RAM?
[21:29] <xlq> Some_Person: will you need to preserve the permissions and users of the files?
[21:29] <Some_Person> xlq: No.
[21:30] <ihr> Thank you to whoever suggested UCK
[21:30] <xlq> Some_Person: I'd just use rsync
[21:30] <insanitybin> Hello, I have a problem where the sound only comes out of my speakers and never out of my headset. In gnome-volume-control, I have my headset selected. In alsamixer, it also has my headset selected. I don't know how to fix this.
[21:30] <xlq> or scp
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: They're just files from the owner's My Documents folder
[21:30] <netsurf3> _Adam__, it is compatible with them all so you could always add them if they are missing. just bare in mind that that usb drive may not last long with those sorts of things running!
[21:30] <stefg> !sound | insanitybin
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: Can you tell me exactly what to do?
[21:30] <xlq> Some_Person: have you got ssh installed on the laptop?
[21:30] <Some_Person> xlq: Not to my knowledge
[21:30] <ninjaslim> xlq: in my cases the machines are able to communicate, but i can never get on the internet from the ubuntu machine as i should be able to
[21:30] <insanitybin> ok ty ubottu
[21:31] <ihr> I don't understand why making custom install CDs it this easy but great job
[21:31] <netsurf3> sp0 did you get my message
[21:31] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i mounted /tmp as tmpfs, would disabling the logging help?
[21:31] <Some_Person> xlq: By the way, I just figured out that the one with the duck as the wallpaper is Intrepid
[21:31] <xlq> Some_Person: install openssh-server on the laptop
[21:32] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[21:32] <netsurf3> _Adam__, how much ram have you got to use on this?
[21:32] <KittyBoots> stefg: Ill check this out
[21:32] <mik3y> wow, i'm super confused... I've been using talk for months now. All of a sudden I am getting this message. "Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused." Can somebody please help? I'm very frustrated.
[21:32] <netsurf3> and is it headless or does it need a gui
[21:32] <ejv> _Adam__: mounting tmp in tmpfs, simply means logging to temp is going into system memory
[21:32] <Some_Person> xlq: done
[21:32] <ejv> _Adam__: it does NOT mean that logging stops
[21:32] <DoomHack2009> steam cracké compte
[21:32] <VCoolio> Some_Person: that might be an ibex, considering it's "intrepid ibex"...
[21:33] <_Adam__> ejv, or i could mount /var/logs as tmpfs
[21:33] <Some_Person> VCoolio: Well, it looks like a duck to me, sort of like a rubber duck toy
[21:33] <ejv> _Adam__: you very well could, yes
[21:33] <xlq> Does Ubuntu come with rsync?
[21:33] <ejv> yes
[21:34] <xlq> No, I mean, by default
[21:34] <LoneWlf> xlq: it comes with 'sudo apt-get install rsync' isn't that the same?
[21:34] <ejv> yup, pretty sure
[21:34] <netsurf3> _Adam__, the best solution for you it sounds like is to make your usb pendrive then setup the usb stick to become a unionfs where changes made are written to ram instead of the usb disk. it'd be essentially a live disk but there would be your /home to save changes and there must be some way to modify the usb stick for admin reasons
[21:34] <xlq> LoneWlf: not without an Internet connection
[21:34] <firecrotch> rsync is not installed by default
[21:34] <xlq> ok
[21:34] <xlq> Some_Person: do you know how to use cp to copy files?
[21:34] <Some_Person> xlq: Yes
[21:34] <ejv> i don't recall having to install rsync
[21:34] <ejv> but I work pretty fast so...
[21:34] <ejv> ^_^
[21:34] <_Adam__> netsurf3, sort of, /var/www would still need to be on the stick and changes saved
[21:35] <Some_Person> xlq: I've been an ubuntu user since breezy. i know the basics pretty well
[21:35] <LoneWlf> xql: I'm pretty sure that it does come on the CD
[21:35] <LoneWlf> xlq: blah
[21:35] <xlq> Some_Person: ok. Well, on the desktop, you can copy a file to the laptop like this
[21:35] <_Adam__> I'm going for the silent home server box
[21:36] <netsurf3> _Adam__, that doesnt make alot of sense you said you had a internal for storing /home
[21:36] <netsurf3> its still going to make noise
[21:36] <xlq> Some_Person: scp myfile laptopusername@192.168.1.126:path/to/put/myfile
[21:36] <xlq> laptopusername is the username you use on your laptop.
[21:36] <_Adam__> netsurf3, /home is really only for storing music, i hope to spin the drive down
[21:37] <ajwak95> Restart X. BRB
[21:37] <Some_Person> xlq: Do I run with sudo?
[21:37] <xlq> Some_Person: no
[21:37] <mrwes> Some_Person, or scp -r if you want a directory
[21:37] <Some_Person> xlq: "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.126 port 22: Connection refused"
[21:38] <_Adam__> i hope i dont sound too crazy :D
[21:38] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, try this: ssh localhost
[21:38] <netsurf3> _Adam__, its just seems like alot of work thats all
[21:38] <enthdegree> are there any significant security advantages by removing yourself from sudoers?
[21:38] <_Adam__> I have tried this twice now, and reinstalling 32bit instead of 64
[21:39] <Some_Person> xlq: No errors or anything
[21:39] <netsurf3> i'd just bang a livecd onto usb and have the usb partitioned so that you can save the /var/www
[21:39] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i'm a windows administrator..... i'm used to a lot of messing around
[21:39] <xlq> Hrrm.
[21:39] <netsurf3> _Adam__, i havent had that joy yet get to find it out from the service desk side of things from the 14th of sept :(
[21:39] <_Adam__> oh yes, there is no working CD drive... and i cant be bothered to buy one
[21:40] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, type: route
[21:40] <xlq> and show me the result (not in the main channel, obviously)
[21:40] <netsurf3> _Adam__, customize a version of slax?
[21:40] <Some_Person> xlq: hang on, i'll have to type it out since desktop has no internet
[21:40] <_Adam__> netsurf3, i have spent the week trying to get shot of conficker!
[21:40] <netsurf3> _Adam__, ahh oh shi-
[21:41] <netsurf3> _Adam__, pm?
[21:41] <_Adam__> KK
[21:41] <xlq> Some_Person: well, you could set up the Internet on the desktop.
[21:41] <Some_Person> xlq: How do I do that?
[21:41] <xlq> It's a bit fiddly.
[21:41] <Paul2> in grub4dos (wubi), kernel /ubuntu/disks/boot/vmlinuz-2-whateer root=<what goes here> (usually it would be /dev/hdax, but not here...)
[21:42] <Paul2> in grub4dos (wubi), kernel /ubuntu/disks/boot/vmlinuz-2-whateer root=<what goes here> (usually it would be /dev/hdax, but not here...)
[21:42] <Paul2> I tried /ubunutu/disks/root.disk, but I get an error when it loads and get dumped to an initfs prompt
[21:42] <michaeljfritz> Hello all
[21:42] <ubuntujanne> Hi room
[21:42] <ubuntujanne> was up?
[21:42] <urthmover> ho la
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> im a newbie here
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> a first timer to use Linux Ubuntu
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> also a newbie here
[21:43] <gwildor> heyo ubuntujanne
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> I am looking for help getting my wireless working
[21:43] <mrwes> welcome ubuntujanne
[21:43] <gwildor> and michaeljfritz
[21:43] <gwildor> i know a jeremy fritz
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> michaeljfritz..hi
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> no relation sorry :(
[21:43] <xlq> Some_Person: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
[21:43] <ubuntujanne> qwildor..hi
[21:43] <michaeljfritz> so
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> long time windows expert finally throwing it all away
[21:44] <Some_Person> xlq: Oh god, not iptables. I failed miserably trying to do this about a year ago
[21:44] <xlq> Some_Person: heh :\
[21:44] <xlq> yeah, I said it was fiddly
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> well i cant say im no expert in microsoft windows
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> have a clean install of ubunto
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> i just get by
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> however looking to get the wireless working
[21:44] <michaeljfritz> I'm on a dell x300
[21:44] <Some_Person> xlq: Forget it. I'll type it out
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> pretty much same goes for my rather scarse skills in Ubuntu
[21:44] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: get to know the commandline and use MAN
[21:44] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:45] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: learn vi
[21:45] <ejv> windows and expert should never be used in the same sentence, that's an oxymoron
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> i got an old Dell XPS M1710
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> ejv lol
[21:45] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: learn irssi
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> but i get by
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> ok would love to learn all these things you are suggesting
[21:45] <Some_Person> xlq: Destination: "192.168.1.125" Gateway: "*" Genmask: "255.255.255.255" Flags: "UH" Metric: "0" Ref: "0" Iface: "eth0"
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> im just starhow to use the"Terminal"ting to learn
[21:45] <michaeljfritz> but would first like to get the darn wireless working so I can learn w/out being wired
[21:45] <ubuntujanne> and sudo commands
[21:46] <humbolto> what is the correct way to define 2 IP addresses for one NIC?
[21:46] <ejv> windows is closed source, how can you even call yourself an expert having no knowledge of software or operating system internals... lol
[21:46] <ejv> think about it! :p
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> ok enough windows bashing - we are all converts here
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> lol
[21:46] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: what make model
[21:46] <michaeljfritz> Dell X300
[21:47] <michaeljfritz> so it should havea broadcom wireless chipset
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: wrong address
[21:47] <ubuntujanne> pretty much all worked"Out of the Box"
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: route del 192.168.1.125
[21:47] <ubuntujanne> when i installed Ubuntǘ
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: route add 192.168.1.126 dev eth0
[21:47] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, have you enable the multi and universe software sources?
[21:47] <Some_Person> xlq :On the desktop?
[21:47] <gwildor> ubuntujanne, yeah, some of us get lucky
[21:47] <xlq> Some_Person: yeah
[21:48] <xlq> Ugh, I hate multitasking
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> first time ad i get gready and installed all i could get my hands onroun
[21:48] <kaddi> ubuntujanne that's good to hear :)
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> hands on
[21:48] <michaeljfritz> I figured with a 5 year old machine all the drivers would be built into the install
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> but that failed
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> rather misserably
[21:48] <ubuntujanne> LOL
[21:48] <michaeljfritz> I see the wireless options
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: Should I post the output of route again?
[21:49] <michaeljfritz> so wondering if the drivers are installed
[21:49] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, System  |  Administration | Software Sources and put a tick mark in multi and restricted sources
[21:49] <meLon> Hey guys, I just changed my /etc/network/interfaces file, and now whenever I start up it hangs at "Configuring network interfaces".  I've tried starting in safe/debug mode or whatever, but it's still happening.  Is there any way I can get Ubuntu to start without networking so that I can modify the file?
[21:49] <xlq> Some_Person: no, try that scp command on the desktop again
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> i did find a dell Ubuntu reinstall.. not long ago
[21:49] <ejv> michaeljfritz: lspci > pastebin
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: same error
[21:49] <xlq> Some_Person: :(
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> not sure what pc it was made for
[21:49] <urthmover> michaeljfritz: run lscpi from the commandline and the output will tell you what wifi adaptor your system identifies I believe
[21:49] <ubuntujanne> i put it all on a dvd
[21:49] <Some_Person> xlq: I'll post the output of route
[21:49] <xlq> meLon: I don't know, but if all else fails, use a livecd.
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: remove neth.ethN from your default run level
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: and then stop your devices
[21:50] <meLon> xlq thanks.  Seems if you wait 5 minutes it realizes it's hanging and fixes itself
[21:50] <Some_Person> xlq: Destination: "ubuntu.local" Gateway: "*" Genmask: "255.255.255.255" Flags: "UH" Metric: "0" Ref:"0"
[21:50] <meLon> ejv: I wasnt able to get it to boot, but now it's booting
[21:50] <ejv> meLon: ok
[21:50] <Some_Person> xlq: Use: "0" Iface: "eth0"
[21:50] <Prodego> dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[21:50] <xlq> whoops, I forgot the netmask :\
[21:51] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry about this :\
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> mrwes - ok they were already ticked
[21:51] <Some_Person> xlq: It's ok
[21:51] <nickjohnson> When I load the 'hardware drivers' panel, it's empty - what do I need to do to populate it so I can install the NVidia binary drivers?
[21:51] <Some_Person> xlq: So what now?
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> I am running an update since the virgin install
[21:51] <nickjohnson> I'm using Ubuntu 9,04
[21:51] <michaeljfritz> perhaps that will fix this?
[21:51] <ubuntujanne> but how to install firefox 3.5?
[21:51] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, Ok.. now check System | Admin | Hardware Drivers to see if there are any drivers listed
[21:52] <Berzerker> ubuntujanne, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[21:52] <mrwes> michaeljfritz, ahh..you're updating now?
[21:52] <ejv> people are so lazy lol
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr del 192.168.1.126
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr add 192.168.1.126/24
[21:52] <xlq> whoops,
[21:52] <xlq> make that
[21:52] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, do: ip addr add 192.168.1.126/24 dev eth0
[21:52] <Some_Person> "Not enough information: "dev" argument is required
[21:52] <xlq> yeah :P
[21:53] <Berzerker> Some_Person, look at his second line
[21:53] <Some_Person> that was for the del command
[21:53] <Some_Person> not the add command
[21:54] <ubuntujanne> thanx
[21:54] <ubuntujanne> started to download through terminal
[21:54] <xlq> Some_Person: oh
[21:54] <Xerran> Say for example I wanted to do this: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras", can I also do it this way: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras"?
[21:54] <ejv> yes
[21:54] <gwildor> Xerran, yes, but i recommend picking apt-get or aptitude, and using only 1
[21:54] <xlq> And now I'm confusing myself
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: yes
[21:55] <ejv> I recommend aptitude, the options are smarter
[21:55] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ip addr del 192.168.1.125 dev eth0
[21:55] <Xerran> gwildor: i heard aptitude was the better way to do it for everything
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: aptitude will automatically remove things that were installed as dependencies and no longer needed. apt-get (nowadays) will tell you about them but not remove them
[21:55] <Xerran> ejv: thx
[21:55] <maco> Xerran: but aptitude can only do that if you install everything with aptitude
[21:55] <Some_Person> hang on, i ran out of RAM space trying to make a zip file of the My Documents folder
[21:55] <gwildor> Xerran, i prefer apt-get.... its preference... just pick one, or there may be problems later
[21:56] <Guest77610> im getting no audio on my headset, it was playing sounds from the live cd
[21:56] <savid> Is there a command that can print the pixel-size of an image?
[21:56] <Some_Person> its freezing up
[21:56] <urthmover> good lick michaeljfritz
[21:56] <urthmover> luck
[21:56] <xlq> maco, Xerran: indeed, but you can also mark packages as 'auto' with the M key, so that they are automatically removed when nothing that depends on it remains.
[21:56] <ejv> get in the habit of using aptitude
[21:56] <maco> xlq: yeah im just talking about whats automatic. the aptitude tui is a little too confusing for me to bother with
[21:56] <Xerran> maco: a learning experience for me but on my next install of the OS i will do everything via aptitude
[21:56] <xlq> maco: really? I find it pretty simple.
[21:57] <Some_Person> xlq: Long error
[21:57] <xlq> maco: ahh well, if you don't use aptitude, you might find 'deborphan' useful - it tells you about orphaned packages
[21:57] <maco> xlq: well i never really used it til i went to the "select packages to install" thing when installing from a pxe boot
[21:57] <xlq> Some_Person: is that an error, or just a warning?
[21:57] <maco> xlq: yeah i know. tell  Xerran :P
[21:57] <Some_Person> xlq: warning, but it says at the end "Cannot assign requested address"
[21:57] <mjheagle8> does anyone know what happens if you mix two speeds of ram?
[21:58] <maco> xlq, Xerran though i believe apt-get prompts you about whats unneeded now, so deborphan is no longer needed. if apt-get prompts you, you can then say "apt-get autoremove" and itll do it
[21:58] <xlq> mjheagle8: iirc on modern machines it uses the slower speed
[21:58] <Xerran> xlq: so basically if you use aptitude you will not have to worry about orphaned apps?
[21:58] <ejv> with apt-get there are tons of additional tools that need memorizing, like apt-listbugs, apt-listchanges, apt-rdepends, etc etc etc., with aptitude, it's much more thought out: aptitude <command>, eg: aptitude install, aptitude remove, aptitude search, aptitude clean; less room for error Xerran
[21:58] <maco> Xerran: right
[21:58] <xlq> Xerran: generally, yeah. What annoyed me, though, was that my base Ubuntu install didn't come with any aptitude state, so I had to trawl through all the packages manually, stripping out stuff I didn't need.
[21:58] <maco> ejv: aptitude cannot do all that apt-* can though. for example, you listed apt-rdepends. aptitude cant do that. nor can it do apt-file, that i am aware
[21:59] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ip addr del 192.168.1.126 dev eth0
[21:59] <Xerran> xlq: what version of ubuntu?
[21:59] <Berzerker> Yay! I received an invitation to test jolicloud!
[21:59] <xlq> Xerran: jaunty
[21:59] <maco> xlq:  think thats because it uses dpkg on them during install
[21:59] <Some_Person> xlq: Same warning, but no error at the end
[21:59] <Alvaa> Hi! I'm new on Ubuntu and I need some help. I have downloaded "Flash player 10 64 Bit for Linux" and this is a *.so file - how can to install *.so files?
[21:59] <xlq> maco: indeed
[21:59] <xlq> Some_Person: right.
[21:59] <ejv> apt-get has a big probelm with addressing the removal of packages, it does a great job at identifying what dependencies are required , but fails miserably when removing said package, leading inevitably to orphans on the system. the solution is aptitude.
[22:00] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, do: ip addr del 192.168.1.125 dev eth0
[22:00] <slimnation7> im new to using ubuntu and im about to install it on my second computer, do i just pop the disk in and boot like i was installing windows?
[22:00] <Xerran> maco: but for basic installs, upgrades, removals and purges aptitude works good?
[22:00] <maco> ejv: ...not anymore so much
[22:00] <kingmanor> ejv: thats why i use aptitude
[22:00] <xlq> slimnation7: yep
[22:00] <maco> Xerran: yes. and it even alphabetizes on search unlike apt-cache, which is nice
[22:00] <ejv> yea
[22:00] <Some_Person> xlq: Same warning, no error
[22:00] <slimnation7> sweet thanks :)
[22:00] <xlq> slimnation7: even better, you can actually *use* Ubuntu before you install it!
[22:00] <ejv> im just pleading my case for aptitude > apt-get
[22:00] <ejv> :)
[22:00] <computer_> what do i use to create PDF files?
[22:00] <maco> ejv: it USED TO be the case that apt-get didnt know about orphaned packages. it does now.
[22:00] <ubuntujanne> sometimes when i look for new apps...i find alot/plenty on Linux..but seldom on Ubuntu deb
[22:00] <mikebot> Evince is giving me problems when trying to print a pdf document, so is there another pdf viewer I can use to print from? Thanks.
[22:00] <xlq> computer_: completely depends what you want to create them from.
[22:00] <xlq> computer_: pdflatex, openoffice.org, ps2pdf, etc. etc.
[22:01] <maco> ejv: it doesnt automatically remove htem in case you want them, but it does know theyre orphaned and inform you of that fact
[22:01] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr add 192.168.1.126/24 dev eth0
[22:01] <computer_> openoffice can create pdf file? cool
[22:01] <ejv> i still see a lot of quirky behavior with apt-get
[22:01] <maco> mikebot: okular?
[22:01] <bryan_> test
[22:01] <xlq> computer_: yep
[22:01] <ubuntujanne> is there any app that can transform other kind of linux into Ubuntu deb?
[22:01] <MOUD> Alvaa: you should have downloaded from the repositories instead of downloading the .so file
[22:01] <ejv> purely on the basis of easier memorization, I recommend aptitude
[22:01] <mikebot> maco: Thanks, I'll try that
[22:01] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:01] <computer_> can openoffice edit pdf files?
[22:01] <xlq> ubuntujanne: alien, but don't expect it to work flawlessly
[22:01] <VCoolio> Alvaa: you don't install .so files as far as I know, you put them in the right spot
[22:01] <xlq> computer_: nope
[22:01] <maco> computer_: yes
[22:01] <FloodBot1> xlq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <bryan_> Can someone tell me how to change my name, I have a registered name but I'm using a cli client, irssi
[22:01] <maco> computer_: there is a plugin to edit pdfs in OOo
[22:01] <gwildor> ubuntujanne, like, use a .rpm on a .deb system?
[22:01] <ejv> finally portage owns dpkg
[22:02] <ejv> so suck it!
[22:02] <Xerran> So any instructions I see to install a certain package I can do it the aptitude way?
[22:02] <ejv> :D
[22:02] <mikebot> maco: Will that work in gnome?
[22:02] <gwildor> bryan_,   /nick newnick
[22:02] <xlq> computer_: PDF files aren't really for editing. There are, however, a few tools to convert PDFs into text, etc. But it's a bit hit-and-miss, because PDFs don't contain enough structural data.
[22:02] <computer_> maco, whats it called?
[22:02] <bryan_> gwildor: Thank you
[22:02] <xlq> FloodBot1: I'm just talking quickly!
[22:02] <Xerran> like .deb etc?
[22:02] <Alvaa> VCoolio: Bur i don't know the right spot :(
[22:02] <computer_> ok
[22:02] <ubuntujanne> Xerran yep..deb
[22:02] <gwildor> Xerran, just run apt-get orphan after you apt-get remove something...
[22:02] <maco> computer_: install openoffice.org-pdfimport i think
[22:02] <konsumer> Howdy folks. Quick Question, Does VMWare WorkStation do the same thing as VirtualBox OSE ?
[22:02] <felix_> i want to remove some entryes from access.log of apache2 with cut
[22:02] <maco> mikebot: yeah you can use kde apps in gnome and vice versa just fine
[22:02] <Xerran> gwildor: thx
[22:03] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add 192.168.1.125/24 dev eth0
[22:03] <konsumer> I want to install Xp in Ubuntu
[22:03] <xlq> oops NONO
[22:03] <mikebot> maco: Wonderful, thank you.
[22:03] <xlq> Some_Person: sorry, on the laptop: ip addr add 192.168.1.125/24 dev eth0
[22:03] <maco> Xerran: if it's a .deb that youre downloading, for that youd use "sudo dpkg -i" on it
[22:03] <ejv> more reasons to try aptitude: better curses apps. better stdout formatting. so on. :)
[22:03] <ubuntujanne> install xp on ubuntu?
[22:03] <felix_> i want to remove some entryes from access.log of apache2 with cut can anyone tell me the command? cut -c 127.0.0.1 access.log does not work
[22:03] <computer_> konsumer, google vmware player vs virtualbox
[22:03] <konsumer> Cant decide whether to install VMWare WS or VirtualBox
[22:03] <meisterlumpi> konsumer: vmware prob. does more..
[22:03] <konsumer> Oh good
[22:03] <ejv> konsumer: KVM
[22:03] <konsumer> kvm eh
[22:03] <Xerran> konsumer: i prefer virtualbox over vmware
[22:03] <konsumer> never herd of that one
[22:04] <ejv> Canonical is very much behind Ubuntu and KVM, google it bro
[22:04] <ejv> trust me
[22:04] <Xerran> konsumer: vmware is bloated imho
[22:04] <xlq> Xerran: you can also use gdebi to install .deb files
[22:04] <konsumer> Orly
[22:04] <ubuntujanne> or you can get some kits that makes your ubuntu look more like window xp
[22:04] <maco> ubuntujanne: alien can convert some rpms to debs and vice versa but it is not guaranteed to work
[22:04] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:04] <konsumer> I dont want the look of xp, i need it for running Maya 2009
[22:04] <ubuntujanne> maco thanx
[22:04] <computer_> i like virtualbox better :)
[22:05] <mathew1331> siemka
[22:05] <VCoolio> Alvaa:you could try ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default/extensions, then restart and see if it shows up in the tools > add-ons > plugins tab
[22:05] <mathew1331> :P
[22:05] <maco> konsumer: go with virtualbox. kvm is not human-friendly.
[22:05] <Xerran> xlq: thx but i think I will stick with aptitude, I need a challenge :P
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add 192.168.1.125/24 dev eth0
[22:05] <konsumer> Ive tried VirtualBox OSE before, it feels limited
[22:05] <ejv> KVM is not the KVM switch ur thinking of, it's kernel based virtualization, using a QEMU hypervisor
[22:05] <VCoolio> Alvaa: restart firefox I mean
[22:05] <xlq> Xerran: no, I meant individual .deb files
[22:05] <ubuntujanne> maco where can i get hold of  "alien"?
[22:05] <konsumer> but the only problem is that VMWare WS is not free :/
[22:05] <Xerran> xlq: ok
[22:05] <maco> ubuntujanne: sudo aptitude install alien
[22:05] <Some_Person> xlq: "route: netmask 000000ff doesn't make sense with host route
[22:05] <Some_Person> "
[22:05] <konsumer> I'll have to buy it.
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: oh
[22:05] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: route add 192.168.1.125 dev eth0
[22:05] <maco> konsumer: there's a non-OSE version of vbox
[22:05] <konsumer> Oh
[22:05] <konsumer> If it open source ?
[22:06] <konsumer> if it*
[22:06] <meLon> Okay guys.  I have this wifi radar tool and I opened it up and dc'd from my router.  I'm unable to get my wlan0 iface to come up.  here is some information:  http://pastebin.com/m6e49748
[22:06] <Alvaa> VCoolio: okay, i gonna try :)
[22:06] <konsumer> is it**
[22:06] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:06] <MOUD> is there an alternative for openoffice?
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: OSE = open source edition
[22:06] <Xerran> konsumer: VirtualBox has far more frequent updates than vmware
[22:06] <konsumer> Ah i see
[22:06] <xlq> MOUD: KOffice, and also some individual light-weight programs like Abiword
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: the non-OSE vbox is free for home use
[22:06] <xlq> although I don't recommend Abiword, it's crashtastic.
[22:06] <konsumer> Ok, looks like i need to find this VB non ose
[22:06] <Some_Person> xlq: Why so many route commands on the laptop?
[22:06] <ubuntujanne> maco..ok.im back
[22:06] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: route add 192.168.1.126 dev eth0
[22:06] <ubuntujanne> alien..and then?..ive just opened up terminal
[22:06] <maco> konsumer: virtualbox.org i think it's "PUE" .. Prsonal Use Edition
[22:06] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: why do frequent updates make a programm better?
[22:07] <nickjohnson> No matter what I do, I can't get any drivers to show up in the 'hardware drivers' panel. What am I doing wrong?
[22:07] <konsumer> maco, Thanks for the info
[22:07] <xlq> Some_Person: I only gave one route command for the laptop
[22:07] <FreshCure> hey
[22:07] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:07] <MOUD> xlq: but which is better, openoffice or KOffice?
[22:07] <konsumer> and thanks to everyone else :)
[22:07] <Some_Person> xlq: No
[22:07] <xlq> MOUD: opinion
[22:07] <maco> ubuntujanne: just "alien foo.rpm" in whatever directory the rpm is and with the right name for it
[22:07] <H8sMikeMoore> i like openoffice
[22:07] <FreshCure> any ideas why kget keeps crashing out ?
[22:07] <gwildor> MOUD, open office, it doesnt require qt or klibs
[22:07] <konsumer> I'm actually running Xubuntu, but i figure its the same
[22:07] <H8sMikeMoore> kget isnt that great yet use synaptic
[22:07] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: when new OS's and technologies come out I guess..not to mention bug fixes
[22:07] <mrwes> nickjohnson, do you have the restricted software sources enabled ?
[22:07] <konsumer> but the Xubuntu channel takes some time to reply
[22:08] <konsumer> this channel is quick ;)
[22:08] <maco> H8sMikeMoore: what do kget and synaptic have in common?
[22:08] <Skrypt> I screwed up my /boot/grub/menu.lst. When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:08] <FreshCure> thansk H8sMikeMoore
[22:08] <emcpn> #ubuntu-gr
[22:08] <foufou> hello
[22:08] <nickjohnson> mrwes: As far as I know, yes. I can see the nvidia-glx-* packages in the package management tool
[22:08] <kaddi> hello foufou
[22:08] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, right, there has been a mistake
[22:08] <VCoolio> Alvaa: or try to create a plugins folder and put it in there; or launch firefox like this: LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/plugin.so firefox
[22:08] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr add 192.168.1.126/24 dev eth0
[22:08] <maco> FreshCure: er H8sMikeMoore doesnt make sense. synaptic isnt a replacement for kget
[22:08] <mrwes> nickjohnson, check to be sure -- sys | admin | software sources
[22:08] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: I have a purchased version of vmware and I have VB and I can tell you that VB gets updates quicker
[22:09] <maco> H8sMikeMoore: getting confused with kpackagekit?
[22:09] <gwildor> kget == wget
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> maco - yeah
[22:09] <FreshCure> Yeah I know maco
[22:09] <MOUD> then I'll install openoffice, why should I install qt or Klibs on my ubuntu if I might not use them. :)
[22:09] <nickjohnson> "Proprietary devices for drivers (Restricted)" is checked
[22:09] <xlq> gwildor: ?!?!
[22:09] <Berzerker> I'm having trouble formatting a flash drive on gparted.
[22:09] <FreshCure> he means seach synaptic for another bt client
[22:09] <FreshCure> I asume he does
[22:09] <Berzerker> I get an error when trying to make it FAT32
[22:09] <gwildor> MOUD, yes, id only use koffice, if i had kde (kubuntu)
[22:09] <Some_Person> xlq: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> no i got it confused with another program
[22:09] <mrwes> nickjohnson, backports too?
[22:09] <xlq> Some_Person: hmm, oh right.
[22:09] <FreshCure> oh
[22:09] <H8sMikeMoore> sorry
[22:09] <FreshCure> lol
[22:10] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop: ping 192.168.1.126
[22:10] <felix_> i need to remove all lines matching 127.0.0.1 from access.log. can anyone tell me the piped command? im noob
[22:10] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: I find vmware to be more stable than vb, many updates could also mean the the programm was very buggy to begin with
[22:10] <nickjohnson> mrwes: I don't see an option labelled backports - where is it?
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: sed -i '/127.0.0.1/d' myfile
[22:10] <Some_Person> xlq: no responses
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: that alters myfile
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: ubuntu includes a bt client
[22:10] <xlq> :\
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: its called Transmission
[22:10] <felix_> sed removes entire lines xlq ??
[22:10] <FreshCure> Yeah I just noticed :D
[22:10] <xlq> felix_: it can, ys
[22:10] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: i run vmware server on my debian couple of years, can't complain
[22:10] <maco> FreshCure: or if youre on kubuntu, ktorrent
[22:10] <xlq> *yes
[22:11] <nickjohnson> Oh, under 'updates'?
[22:11] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: when it comes to stability you may have a point :P
[22:11] <felix_> xlq with that pattern?
[22:11] <firecrotch> Some_Person: whats the problem that you're having? if I recall correct, you're trying to transfer files between two computers directly connected with an ethernet cable?
[22:11] <MOUD> what's a good alternative for Windows Live Messenger for linux that has as many features as possible? (like audio only and webcam)
[22:11] <xlq> felix_: oh wait, uh, . matches any char sorry
[22:11] <Some_Person> firecrotch: That's what I want to do
[22:11] <xlq> MOUD: aMSN
[22:11] <gwildor> Some_Person, do you have a crossover cable?
[22:11] <emil1111> hello, I have two laptops both connected with ethernet, how can I make a file transfer between them?
[22:11] <Some_Person> gwildor: no
[22:11] <nickjohnson> I've enabled backports too, still nothing in the hardware drivers list
[22:12] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: beware, I am talking only about the desktop version of said virtualization apps.
[22:12] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: :-) well the thing is vb is free, vm ware for windows not..
[22:12] <mrwes> nickjohnson, under the updates tab
[22:12] <xlq> felix_: sed '/127\.0\.0\.1/d' deletes all lines with 127.0.0.1 in them
[22:12] <Skrypt> I screwed up my /boot/grub/menu.lst. When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:12] <gwildor> MOUD, afaik, the only msn messenger on linux that has webcam is amsn
[22:12] <Some_Person> xlq: if it helps, from the laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252767/
[22:12] <MOUD> I see
[22:12] <gwildor> Some_Person, well you will need one, there are directions online how to make one.... thats why it wont work for you
[22:12] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: I have not experience with DC solutions of them
[22:12] <nickjohnson> mrwes: Right - I ticked backports there, still nothing showing up
[22:13] <firecrotch> Some_Person: Both machines have IP addresses on the same subnet?
[22:13] <Alvaa> VCoolio: there is already a plugins folder including an other .so file. i copied my new .so file in there and restarted firefox but nothing happens
[22:13] <Some_Person> firecrotch: I don't know
[22:13] <gwildor> Some_Person, no amount  of configuration will stop you from needing a crossover cable....unless they are  both macintosh
[22:13] <felix_> xlq, cool works, and how would be the patter for all lines matching localhost?
[22:13] <gwildor> firecrotch, he doesnt have a crossover... the configs are irrelivant atm
[22:13] <MOUD> is 0.97.2 the latest version? It's a year old
[22:13] <xlq> firecrotch: I've given 192.168.1.125 to the desktop's eth0 and 192.168.1.126 to the laptop's eth0
[22:13] <gwildor> MOUD, probably
[22:13] <xlq> felix_: ehh...  sed '/localhost/d' will delete all lines matching localhost, is that what you want?
[22:13] <notbenh> hello all, weird issue NetworkManager seems to not remember conection configs
[22:13] <firecrotch> gwildor: some NICs have auto-crossover
[22:13] <MOUD> ok, I'll give a try
[22:14] <gwildor> xlq, i appreas you have done that stuff right...just need the crossover.
[22:14] <VCoolio> Alvaa: it didn't show up in about:plugins? what version of firefox?
[22:14] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: the thing that annoyed me working in a DC was going to reboot a server and looking fruitlessly only to find out it was a vm :P
[22:14] <xlq> gwildor: heh, we already got a ping
[22:14] <gwildor> firecrotch, afaik, not one single onboard does..
[22:14] <felix_> xlq, yes, i want to delete the entire line, not just the word
[22:14] <xlq> felix_: yes, indeed
[22:14] <MOUD> thanks xlq and gwildor
[22:14] <notbenh> currently it has nothing under the wired tab in the GUI though there are files under system-connections
[22:14] <xlq> felix_: sed won't actually modify the file without the -i switch though
[22:14] <notbenh> tried /etc/inet.d/NetworkManager restart and still nothing
[22:15] <Alvaa> VCoolio: Namoroka, Firefox 3.6a1
[22:15] <Some_Person> xlq: So what now?
[22:15] <xlq> Some_Person: can you please paste the output of this, on the laptop?  ip addr show eth0 | grep inet
[22:15] <notbenh> ifconfig eth0 up and down appear to work but I still can not ping
[22:15] <firecrotch> Some_Person: back to basics, I suppose.  Make sure that one of your cards can do auto-crossover
[22:15] <notbenh> resolve.conf looks fine
[22:15] <xlq> firecrotch: IT CAN
[22:15] <Some_Person> firecrotch: I have no idea
[22:15] <notbenh> can any one think of anything that Ive missed?
[22:15] <xlq> notbenh: what're you trying to ping?
[22:16] <gwildor> or just spend the 5 minutes, and make a crossover
[22:16] <xlq> gwildor: the crossover is NOT the problem
[22:16] <VCoolio> Alvaa: ok, you did put the .so in the plugins folder from firefox-3.6 then?
[22:16] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: sry, tele
[22:16] <Some_Person> xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252769/
[22:16] <xlq> ahh damn, it's got two addresses :\
[22:16] <Xerran> meisterlumpi: np
[22:16] <Alvaa> VCoolio: i want to try 64 bit flash player, for this i need 64 bit browser, that's the one i found
[22:16] <notbenh> xlq: google.com and http://google.com
[22:16] <meLon> I used a program that lets me scan for routers (I think it was called WiFi Radar) and now my wlan0 will not come up.  I get this error:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up >> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device.  I am very confused
[22:17] <VCoolio> Alvaa: I don't have 64 bit, so can't really help there
[22:17] <notbenh> xlq:  both return the unknown host error
[22:17] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop: ip addr del 192.168.1.125/24 dev eth0
[22:17] <nickjohnson> mrwes: any further ideas?
[22:17] <Some_Person> xlq: ok
[22:17] <xlq> notbenh: can you ping 74.125.67.100?
[22:17] <xlq> Some_Person: try the ping on the desktop again
[22:17] <Some_Person> xlq: Still nothing
[22:17] <xlq> :(
[22:17] <notbenh> xlq: yes
[22:17] <mrwes> nickjohnson, no I don't sorry
[22:18] <firecrotch> Some_Person: from the laptop: traceroute ip_of_desktop
[22:18] <xlq> Alvaa: you can get the 64-bit flash player from Adobe's website. They say it's very unstable but it's been OK for me.
[22:18] <xlq> notbenh: then it's probably your resolv.conf
[22:18] <firecrotch> Some_Person:  you may not have traceroute installed, if you don't, sudo apt-get install traceroute
[22:19] <Some_Person> installing now
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: I
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> ok im off..thanx for all the help GUys
[22:19] <Alvaa> i already dl it form adobe site, but i don't get it work
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: I'll poke at it again
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq:  thanks
[22:19] <kaddi> bye ubuntujanne :)
[22:19] <xlq> notbenh: are you configuring manually or using dhcp?
[22:19] <meisterlumpi> Xerran: gotta go, pick up my brother, nice talking to you
[22:19] <Some_Person> firecrotch: E: Couldn't find package traceroot
[22:19] <VCoolio> Alvaa: did you put the plugin in .mozilla/firefox/blah or in the folder for firefox-3.6? You should do the latter
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> im gonna use Ubuntu 64 on my next pc project
[22:19] <xlq> Some_Person: traceroute
[22:19] <Some_Person> ah
[22:19] <notbenh> xlq: manual
[22:19] <Some_Person> that was stupid
[22:19] <ubuntujanne> cyaĺl L8er
[22:20] <xlq> notbenh: what does your resolv.conf contain now?
[22:20] <Alvaa> VCoolio: okay, but you helped me a lot :) now i knoe that i can't install .so files =)
[22:20] <Alvaa> xlq: i already dl it form adobe site, but i don't get it work
[22:20] <xlq> Alvaa: what's wrong with it?
[22:20] <dp> trying to start some c++ development... where do I find stream.h and other "standard" headers?
[22:20] <xlq> Alvaa: does firefox load the plugin? (about:plugins)
[22:20] <kekeke> if i want users to stop entering directories outside of their home, do i have to jail them? or if there is a specific folder i dont want them to access, is this possible?
[22:21] <Alvaa> xlq: the DL was a .so file and i don't know how to work with this
[22:21] <Alvaa> xlq: no, it doesn't
[22:21] <Some_Person> firecrotch, xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252771/
[22:21] <mrwes> Alvaa, you need to copy the .so file to the mozilla/plugin directory
[22:21] <xlq> Alvaa: I put it in ~/.mozilla/plugin/
[22:21] <xlq> Alvaa: I put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:21] <unop> kekeke, a chroot/jail would be the easiest way
[22:22] <kekeke> unop i've heard they are hard to set up, especially for inexperiences users such as myself, do you have any easy to follow resources to do this?
[22:22] <firecrotch> Some_Person: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig /all from both machines?
[22:22] <kekeke> *inexperienced
[22:22] <Some_Person> firecrotch: The desktop has no internet
[22:22] <xlq> Some_Person: this is really frustrating, if I were standing there I'd do it in a couple of minutes :\
[22:23] <Alvaa> xlq: the so file is in the plugins folder
[22:23] <notbenh> xlq: #Generated by NetworkManager and the 3 ip's for the nameservers
[22:23] <xlq> Alvaa: ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so exists?
[22:23] <Some_Person> xlq: Well, what's the problem?
[22:23] <unop> kekeke, this should start you off https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[22:23] <Alvaa> xlq: but the firefox folder is on my desktop, is this a problem?
[22:23] <kekeke> thanks unop
[22:23] <xlq> Alvaa: no, put libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[22:24] <konsumer> Thanks or the help. Peace.
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: also, are you sure you downloaded the 64-bit version?
[22:24] <unop> kekeke, i would suggest that you understand the concept first - which might require some extra background reading - before you go ahead and set it up
[22:24] <Laice> o/
[22:24] <kekeke> ok
[22:24] <Laice> got a font question
[22:24] <Some_Person> firecrotch: /all: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[22:24] <Alvaa> xlq: ~/.mozilla/ doesn't exist
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: you can create it
[22:24] <xlq> Alvaa: are you using a terminal for this?
[22:25] <Alvaa> xlq: i try .....
[22:25] <fudgecake> Hi - I'm having a problem and it's rather weird. When I open terminal to do whatever, it keeps printing lots of ~ at random stages, even causing me to abort downloads. Is there anything that would make this occur? Doesn't seem to happen in anything other than terminal :P
[22:25] <notbenh> xlq: ya that was it, dont know what it was but I moved resolv and then did it by hand and things are back up again
[22:25] <xlq> Alvaa: well, if you're using a file manager
[22:25] <Alvaa> xlq: i'm a newbie on linux / ubuntu
[22:25] <notbenh> xlq: thanks
[22:25] <nhn> Hi.
[22:25] <nhn> Is the arl1e driver broken in karmic?
[22:25] <xlq> Alvaa: ok, erm, where is libflashplayer.so?
[22:26] <firecrotch> Some_Person: is that from the desktop?
[22:26] <Some_Person> firecrotch: both
[22:26] <firecrotch> er
 Some_Person: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig /all from both machines?
[22:26] <xlq> firecrotch: that's a rather botched half-Windows command you've got there
[22:26] <firecrotch> Sorry, I'm stuck in Windows mode lol
[22:26] <Alvaa> xlq/ i downloaded a 64 bit firefox called namoroka and unzipped it on my desk
[22:26] <nhn> I just upgraded a laptop from jaunty, and it fails to load a driver for the ethernet card (atheros ar8113) which worked fine under jaunty
[22:26] <afed> wlan card
[22:27] <Alvaa> xlq: i downloaded a 64 bit firefox called namoroka and unzipped it on my desk
[22:27] <firecrotch> Some_Person: ifconfig will suffice :)
[22:27] <Some_Person> i can't pastebin from the desktop
[22:27] <xlq> Alvaa: but I'm trying to help you install flash player, not the entire web browser!
[22:27] <Alvaa> xlq: from there i can start it. and there is also a folder called "plugins" in this folder i copied the so file
[22:28] <xlq> Alvaa: what, ~/Desktop/plugins/libflashplayer.so?
[22:28] <Some_Person> firecrotch: from the laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252774/
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: yes, the browser works, but it isn't in /.mozilla/
[22:28] <nickjohnson> Okay, stupid question: I ran nvidia-xconfig, and now it's using the nvidia drivers... which are acting terribly. How do I set it back to non-nvidia until I can get things working
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:28] <nickjohnson> ?
[22:28] <xlq> Some_Person: that looks correct
[22:28] <Alvaa> xlq: ~/Desktop/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so?
[22:28] <firecrotch> Some_Person: is it the same except for the IP address on the desktop?
[22:28] <xlq> Alvaa: yes
[22:29] <xlq> Alvaa: open a terminal, and type this: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins && cp ~/Desktop/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ && echo OK
[22:29] <xlq> Alvaa: and then press enter
[22:30] <Some_Person> firecrotch: The desktop has no IP
[22:30] <mrwes> xlq, you're the best :) run'em all together heh
[22:30] <xlq> Some_Person: on the desktop, run: ip addr add 192.168.1.125/24 dev eth0
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: done
[22:31] <Some_Person> xlq: now it has an ip
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: did it say "OK"?
[22:31] <xlq> Some_Person: try pinging again
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: is firefox running?
[22:31] <Some_Person> xlq: Ping works
[22:31] <xlq> Some_Person: what about the scp command?
[22:31] <Alvaa> xlq: not at the moment
[22:31] <xlq> Alvaa: ok. Start firefox
[22:31] <GreyWanderer> uuurk. 1383 nicks...
[22:32] <Alvaa> xlq: from desk?
[22:32] <mrwes> typical
[22:32] <xlq> Alvaa: yeah
[22:32] <Alvaa> xlq: runs
[22:32] <Some_Person> xlq: It doesn't look like it's doing anything
[22:33] <dAnon> for some reason I can't install any flashplayerr
[22:33] <dAnon> can someone upload the most recent flashplugin-nonfree.so for me?
[22:33] <xlq> Alvaa: type "about: plugins" into the address bar
[22:33] <dAnon> I can't install it in the system at all :P
[22:33] <Laice> anyone know the best free tahoma font that works well with ubuntu under wine in jaunty?
[22:33] <Alvaa> xlq: it's not shown .. :/
[22:34] <freshmeat> I'm having issues getting Quake 3 Arena demo up and running. So far, I have done 'sh linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh', but I get errors in a black console that pops up. The script seems to be attempting to load files that aren't there.
[22:34] <xlq> Alvaa: have you still got that terminal?
[22:34] <Laice> the ones i've tried from the net seem to brake up in the alerts from the system tray, otherwise it works well inside steam itself
[22:34] <Alvaa> xlq: yes
[22:34] <xlq> Alvaa: type this into it: file ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: can you traceroute?
[22:35] <Some_Person> xlq: command?
[22:35] <pitzi> hi lads
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: oh, the desktop hasn't got traceroute :\
[22:35] <pitzi> can anyone give me a hand
[22:35] <xlq> Some_Person: on the laptop, can you "traceroute 192.168.1.125" ?
[22:35] <pitzi> i cant seem to get the 1280x1024 resolution
[22:35] <Whitor> !ask pitzi
[22:36] <Alvaa> xlq: done, it says "/home/janek/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped"
[22:36] <pitzi> here's my xorg.conf file
[22:36] <pitzi> Section "Device"
[22:36] <pitzi> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[22:36] <pitzi> EndSection
[22:36] <pitzi> Section "Monitor"
[22:36] <pitzi> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[22:36] <FloodBot1> pitzi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <xlq> lol at pitzi
[22:36] <Whitor> lol
[22:36] <xlq> Alvaa: well that looks OK :\
[22:36] <mrwes> heh
[22:36] <xlq> FloodBot1: you're a very good bot
[22:36] <pharsalus> That's why he's number 1
[22:36] <pitzi> yeh but cant get 1280x1024
[22:37] <mrwes> xlq, she doesn't have the free flash player installed does she?
[22:37] <mrwes> or he
[22:37] <mrwes> heh
[22:37] <Some_Person> xlq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/252778/
[22:38] <xlq> mrwes: what free flash player?
[22:38] <xlq> Some_Person: ahh crap
[22:38] <xlq> it's going the wrong way
[22:38] <Darael> xlq: gnash or swfdec?
[22:38] <xlq> Darael: do those actually work?
[22:39] <Lasivian> are there any cellphones out there that will tether out of the box with Ubuntu?
[22:39] <Some_Person> xlq: can you tell it to go the right way?
[22:39] <pitzi> so can anyone help?
[22:39] <Darael> xlq: variably, but they aren't bad.
[22:39] <mrwes> xlq: I was thinking of gnash
[22:39] <xlq> mrwes: I thought that was still really really alpha
[22:39] <Alvaa> xlq: google says i need " nspluginwrapper" to install the 64 bit flash player
[22:39] <Some_Person> xlq: i can't ping it any more
[22:40] <xlq> Some_Person: which way are you trying to ping?
[22:40] <pitzi> ok found out how to paste. so heres my xorg.conf can anyone tell me how to get 1280x1024?
[22:40] <xlq> Some_Person: strange thing is, the laptop should be routing through eth0, since that's the longest-prefix route
[22:40] <pitzi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252779/
[22:40] <Some_Person> The odd part is that I don't have a 192.168.1.64 on my network
[22:41] <xlq> Some_Person: yes, that is odd :|
[22:42] <Some_Person> nevermind all this
[22:42] <Some_Person> i managed to get my flash drive to work
[22:42] <xlq> lol
[22:42] <xlq> Some_Person: I'm really sorry I've used up so much of your time, though
[22:42] <pitzi> well what can i say
[22:42] <pitzi> thansk for nothing
[22:42] <Some_Person> its ok
[22:42] <xlq> pitzi: have you tried the GNOME display settings?
[22:43] <pitzi> yeh
[22:43] <pitzi> but that rez isnt listed
[22:43] <xlq> pitzi: What device have you got? What driver are you using? etc. etc.
[22:43] <gwildor> what card do you have?
[22:43] <pitzi> ati x1900xt
[22:43] <xlq> Some_Person: as you may know, networking can ... get a bit complicated :\
[22:43] <pitzi> hyunday l90d+
[22:43] <Some_Person> now how do i format a hard drive?
[22:43] <pitzi> but going through a belkin switch2 kvm
[22:43] <xlq> Some_Person: what do you want to format it for?
[22:44] <xlq> Some_Person: I thought you were going to reinstall Windows
[22:44] <Some_Person> wait i found the problem
[22:44] <Some_Person> the ethernet cable fell out
[22:44] <xlq> ?!
[22:44] <xlq> O_o
[22:44] <Darael> !?
[22:44] <Some_Person> i am going to reinstall windows
[22:44] <Some_Person> but i need to format first
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: the Windows installer formats, doesn't it?
[22:45] <gwildor> it does
[22:45] <Some_Person> it's having trouble reading the drive
[22:45] <Some_Person> so i'm going to format it
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: consider it might be a hardware fault
[22:45] <xlq> Some_Person: what sort of trouble?
[22:45] <pitzi> lads? dont leave me...
[22:45] <pitzi> :)
[22:45] <tsrk> i installed a graphics driver that messed up my machine, how can I remove it from the command line?
[22:45] <Some_Person> it doesn't give an error; it just hangs
[22:45] <Some_Person> the drive is readable in ubuntu
[22:46] <Some_Person> i'm going to try formatting and then reinstalling
[22:46] <gwildor> *where* does it hang?
[22:46] <gwildor> err, when
[22:46] <VCoolio> pitzi: isn't there some ati settings app in system > administration where you can set the res?
[22:46] <mrwes> the cable fell out????????????? damn!
[22:46] <xlq> pitzi: what architecture? x86 or x86_64?
[22:46] <kekeke> VCoolio is there any way i can prevent a user from entering just 1 directory?
[22:46] <pitzi> no restricted drivers in 9.04
[22:46] <maco> Some_Person: windows install disk can format the drive....
[22:46] <Darael> tsrk: have you tried booting in recovery mode and using the xfix thingy?
[22:46] <pitzi> x86
[22:46] <Some_Person> maco: IT ISN"T WORKING
[22:46] <coordinador> hi
[22:47] <maco> Some_Person: oh
[22:47] <Darael> some_ignore tht!
[22:47] <tsrk> Darael, what's xfix do? I just need to know what the package is called
[22:47] <xlq> pitzi: install fglrx
[22:47] <pitzi> how do u do that
[22:47] <VCoolio> kekeke: is there a reason to ask me? try sudo chmod 700 on the directory if root owns it
[22:47] <maco> pitzi: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:47] <GreyWanderer> oh, and don't forget to add the right repo
[22:47] <Darael> tsrk: it would sort out graphical problems (in theory).
[22:47] <GreyWanderer> (if it's not already added)
[22:47] <pitzi> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:48] <pitzi> E: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-fglrx
[22:48] <kekeke> VCoolio sorry for some reason i thought i was talking to you earlier
[22:48] <kekeke> lol
[22:48] <kekeke> ty anyways
[22:48] <tsrk> Darael, alright, i'll try it, thanks
[22:48] <GreyWanderer> I personally found that driver kept screwing with my computer, so I removed it. Back to the working opensource driver... sigh
[22:48] <VCoolio> kekeke: use chmod -R to make recursive
[22:48] <kekeke> kk thanks
[22:48] <Some_Person> so does anyone know how to format a hard drive in ubuntu?
[22:48] <xlq> kekeke: read about UNIX file and directory permissions and how they work
[22:48] <xlq> Some_Person: mkfs
[22:48] <mrwes> Some_Person, use gparted
[22:48] <Some_Person> it doesn't have gparted installed
[22:48] <xlq> mrwes has a better idea, yes
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: do you really mean "format" (remake the sectors), or do you mean make a filesystem on a drive?
[22:49] <mrwes> Some_Person, so install it
[22:49] <Some_Person> and it has no internet connection
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> uh.
[22:49] <Some_Person> GreyWanderer: format
[22:49] <icarus> i am haveing some trobule makeing portal work with wine
[22:49] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: in what sense? the old-school sense of rewriting all of the sector bounding data?
[22:49] <xlq> icarus: the wine channels might be a better place
[22:50] <GreyWanderer> I know of at least two senses that "format" is used in.
[22:50] <Viking_> hello
[22:50] <xlq> I think I'm going, before I get some sort of psychological disorder.
[22:50] <Some_Person> I just want to blow all the data to nothing and start completely clean, to the point where windows installer has the best chance of reading it
[22:50] <xlq> Some_Person: well you could dd all over it
[22:50] <GreyWanderer> *nod*
[22:51] <Viking_> i just lost 1.5 terabyte using dd
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your-drive bs=1M
[22:51] <mrwes> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install gparted and then use it to format the drive, just make sure it's not mounted, otherwise it'll be locked
[22:51] <Some_Person> mrwes: IT HAS NO INTERNET
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: ouch. messy.
[22:51] <Darael> Viking_: ouch.
[22:51] <Viking_> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc [1,2]  of=/dev/sda1
[22:51] <Viking_> this is what i did
[22:51] <mrwes> heh
[22:51] <xlq> I think removing gparted from the Ubuntu livecd was a really stupid idea :(
[22:51] <urthmover> I'll just say one thing to spice things up
[22:51] <Viking_> and i need to get all my data back on the sa1
[22:51] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: like, huh? That's not even a legal dd.
[22:51] <xlq> Viking_: what's this [1,2] syntax?
[22:51] <mrwes> Some_Person, what files system do you want to format it to?
[22:51] <gwildor> or just use cfdisk to wipe it
[22:51] <urthmover> Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants
[22:51] <Darael> xlq: what?  it's on my live cd.
[22:52]  * urthmover drops the knowlege
[22:52] <Viking_> sorry
[22:52] <xlq> Darael: what version
[22:52] <Some_Person> mrwes: ntfs
[22:52] <Darael> xlq: jaunty.
[22:52] <xlq> Darael: really?
[22:52] <Darael> yup.
[22:52] <xlq> Oh right.
[22:52] <Some_Person> mrwes: I want to wipe the whole drive, not just its only partition
[22:52] <coordinador> i have a problem with openoffice
[22:52] <Viking_> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/dev/sda1
[22:52] <xlq> Then this Kubuntu CD must have some KDE equivalent which I didn't know the name of.
[22:52] <GreyWanderer> mm?
[22:52] <mrwes> Some_Person, what /dev/ is it?
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> it's not ALL kde tools, you know
[22:53] <Viking_> can anyone tell me way to restore files on sda1
[22:53] <kaddi> xlq i think it's called partitionmanager in kubuntu
[22:53] <Some_Person> mrwes: /dev/sda
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/thedrive bs=1M
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> Viking_: I don't know if you can, to be frank.
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[22:53] <mrwes> sudo mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda
[22:53] <Darael> Viking_: You could try testdisk, but it's not very hopeful.
[22:53] <GreyWanderer> Some_Person: what drive is it? The first drive in the system?
[22:53] <xlq> Some_Person: be careful though, playing around with dd as root :)
[22:53] <xlq> mrwes: you probably don't want to do that
[22:53] <Some_Person> i'm just wiping a hard drive
[22:54] <Viking_> i lost all my picturers everything music important docs
[22:54] <GreyWanderer> yeah, WHICH hard drive? i.e. what does Ubuntu think it's called? sda? sdb? sdc?
[22:54] <xlq> GreyWanderer: he said sda
[22:54] <D3RGPS31> is there a way to use grep to change case-sensitive file names/extensions in a web document
[22:54] <GreyWanderer> he did?
[22:54] <coordinador> when i print, i cannot set the top margin as in the document (the printed document has very little top margin, the original document in openoffice has different margin)
[22:54] <xlq> Viking_: well at least you learnt: 1. to keep backups, and 2. to be careful with powertools!
[22:54] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: more specific?
[22:55] <Viking_> well that was my backup drive
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: i don't think i can be more simple than that
[22:55] <Darael> Viking_: well, as I say, testdisk _might_ help, but the thing is that you overwrote at leastsome of it.
[22:55] <xlq> D3RGPS31: grep doesn't change, it only searches. Use sed. Or, if sed isn't powerful enough, awk.
[22:55] <Some_Person> xlq: will this take a long time? 40GB drive
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> xlq: thank you :o
[22:55] <Skrypt> I screwed up my /boot/grub/menu.lst. When I selected Ubuntu (instead of XP) at the grub selection, it'd just begin to load and then redirect me to the menu. I then installed the ext2 fs-driver on XP but couldn't even see the partition for Ubuntu. When I go to install Ubuntu now (inside XP) it says it's still installed. How do I recover that partition?
[22:55] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: exactly what names do you want to change?
[22:55] <Viking_> thanks darael
[22:55] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: also the answer is no grep won't do that
[22:55] <Viking_> i just dont wanna loose more so
[22:55] <tsrk> does anyone know how i can find the package name of the proprietary driver i just installed?
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: i know, i read
[22:55] <xlq> I'm off now
[22:55] <bruce927> Does anyone else experience sound corruption from within pidgin?
[22:55] <Viking_> i wanna do this right
[22:56] <derenrich> D3RGPS31: ...?
[22:56] <jedc> unop, couldnt he do that just using permissions?
[22:56] <Viking_> wish i nevr messed with that dd
[22:56] <icarus> the best way to delete everything on a hard drive is by sticing it in the oven at 320<X this will get you to something nknown as the curre point which all magents lose their magnetism
[22:56] <bruce927> If it helps, I'm using an ALC268
[22:57] <Darael> Viking_: if you've got the originals, you could make a new filesystem on the backup drive and just recreate the backup.  Possibly slower, but certain to work.
[22:57] <Skrypt> I'm trying to install GRUB2 via LiveCD to recover a partition which I somehow hid entirely... How can I get fdisk to show the Ubuntu partition?  I know it's still there because gparted shows the memory is still in use and when I attempt to install Ubuntu in XP, it says I have to uninstall first?
[22:57] <mrwes> xlq, I guess this then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[22:58] <Viking_> yes i am giving testdisk a go
[22:58] <Viking_> hope to recover all years of files
[22:58] <mizerydearia> Does Ubuntu store a log/history of applications installed?  I want to determine how early mdadm was installed so as to determine if it is a necessary package or if it is okay to remove it.
[22:59] <Viking_> thanks alot darael
[22:59] <mrwes> mizerydearia, in the synaptic manager, yes
[22:59] <firecrotch> icarus, that wouldn't work. if they can recover all the data off the hard drives from the last space shuttle that blew up, I doubt putting it in your over would work
[22:59] <Viking_> Darael thank you
[22:59] <D3RGPS31> derenrich: eg, i have afew web documents that points to file_a.HTML and file_B.html, etc..., the files are named FILE_A.HTML and FILE_B.HTML, etc...
[22:59] <Darael> Viking_: Don't thank me until you get your stuff back.
[23:00] <Viking_> well just try to be polite here
[23:00] <Some_Person> How long will that dd command take?
[23:00] <Viking_> i was fixing daughter notebook
[23:00] <Darael> Viking_: I know.  But I don't deserve thanks unless you get it back... ne?
[23:00] <Berzerker> Wow jolicloud is awesome.
[23:00] <dare> firecrotch: i'm sure those were a lot more durable
[23:00] <derenrich> Some_Person: you can get progress info, see the man page for details how
[23:00] <mizerydearia> mrwes, Where in the synaptic manager?
[23:00] <Berzerker> anyone who has a netbook should check it out
[23:00] <kiaas_> On vbox(the closed source version) with USB support..how do I make it attach a USB dvd burner? I don't want ubuntu using it, just Vbox.
[23:00] <Viking_> ill buy u beer if i get it
[23:01] <dare> firecrotch: probably incased in many inches of titanium >:)
[23:01] <mrwes> mizerydearia, file | history
[23:01] <Viking_> i am right now not to happy
[23:01] <Viking_> when i realized i messed up
[23:01] <mrwes> mizerydearia, or click the status button, then installed
[23:01] <Viking_> well we live we learn
[23:01] <Some_Person> derenrich: while its running?
[23:02] <Berzerker> kiaas_, should be a setting to bypass USB devices somewhere in the settings menu
[23:02] <derenrich> Some_Person: yeah
[23:02] <derenrich> Some_Person: you can get the info on any running dd process
[23:02] <Berzerker> kiaas_, never used Vbox, but all VM programs I've used have a setting like that
[23:02] <GreyWanderer> yeah, SIGCONT, isn't it?
[23:02] <GreyWanderer> (for dd's progress)
[23:02] <firecrotch> dare: standard hard drives :)
[23:03] <unperson> What's the proper way to change the hostname on my Jaunty system?  Will the hostname command change everything that needs to be changed?  I gather there used to be a way to do it via the GUI, but I think it's gone.
[23:03] <kiaas_> Berzerker, I have the setting set, it gets ignored by ubuntu preventing vbox from taking control of it as far as I can tell
[23:03] <firecrotch> dare: parts of them were melted
[23:03]  * derenrich doesn't remember and checks the man page everytime
[23:03] <dare> firecrotch: ic
[23:03] <Berzerker> kiaas_, no idea then
[23:03] <prince_jammys> !hostname > unperson
[23:03] <kiaas_> Berzerker, I guess I can transfer it to my file server, then burn it from my iMac.
[23:04] <Some_Person> derenrich: how?
[23:04] <poisonkiller> does anybody know, how to make VPN autoconnect on resuming from suspend?
[23:04] <derenrich> Some_Person: kill -USR1 $pid where $pid is the pid of the dd process
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: which you can get from ps
[23:05] <Some_Person> kill? won't that kill it?
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: I swear it's in the man page
[23:05] <GreyWanderer> no, not quite.
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: no kill is used to send signals
[23:05] <derenrich> Some_Person: if it sends SIG_KILL then it'll kill
[23:05] <GreyWanderer> Anyhow, I'm out of here. Bye all.
[23:05] <Some_Person> wow, what smart person thought of that name
[23:06] <derenrich> Some_Person: well it defaults to SIG_KILL
[23:06] <prince_jammys> no, it doesn't
[23:06] <dca> My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..
[23:06] <prince_jammys> thankfully
[23:06] <derenrich> prince_jammys: what does it default do?
[23:06] <prince_jammys> TERM
[23:06]  * derenrich always uses killall -9
[23:06] <derenrich> oic
[23:06] <jedc> lol
[23:06] <prince_jammys> -9 is extreme
[23:06] <unperson> prince_jammys, At least half of ubottu's info is out of date.  On jaunty there is no System -> Administration -> Networking
[23:06] <Some_Person> how do i get the process id from ps?
[23:07] <derenrich> Some_Person: you might need ps -e depending where you are doing this from
[23:07] <savid> In network:/// is it possible to connect to a server using a password?  We have a windows share that requires a specific password (but no username)
[23:07] <derenrich> Some_Person: it's the number next to the word dd
[23:07] <prince_jammys> TERM QUIT HUP, all these can also kill a process.
[23:07] <Some_Person> got it
[23:07] <derenrich> kk
[23:07] <Some_Person> the -e was what i needed
[23:07] <dca>   My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..Please help
[23:07] <jedc> unperson, there is a network tools
[23:07] <kansan> i accidentally shut down mysql down with a kill -9.  as a reward i now cant start mysql and i see:  /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' fai error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[23:07] <prince_jammys> unperson: sorry.
[23:08] <prince_jammys> unperson: i don't have jaunty either to verify. but the files mentioned should be there, as well as the hostname command.
[23:08] <unperson> jedc, Yeah, but that's not what you want.  The thing they're referring to is gone.
[23:08] <Some_Person> it didn't do anything
[23:08] <Some_Person> i ran "sudo kill -USR1 6178" and nothing happened
[23:08] <unperson> prince_jammys, Yeah, I guess there's a bit of a trick to not locking yourself out of sudo, and it's not 100% clear to me how to accomplish that.
[23:08] <derenrich> Some_Person: it printed output on the window u ran dd in
[23:08] <Some_Person> no it didn't
[23:08] <derenrich> Some_Person: should have
[23:09] <Some_Person> hang on theres another dd in the ps output
[23:09] <Some_Person> ok that worked
[23:09] <derenrich> Some_Person: ok
[23:09] <derenrich> Some_Person: it tells u how much it has outputed so far? i can't remember
[23:09] <Some_Person> yes
[23:09] <Some_Person> 34GB at this point
[23:10] <Some_Person> and it gives the speed
[23:10] <derenrich> Some_Person: fast. /dev/random is way slower (which is what i wipe drives with)
[23:10] <Some_Person> It says it's going at 37.4 MB/s
[23:11] <Some_Person> Is there any advantage to /dev/random?
[23:11] <derenrich> not really
[23:11] <derenrich> afaik nobody has recovered data that has been wiped with /dev/zero
[23:11] <dca>  My Hibernate is not working.. On hibernation it is locking the system and showing the loginn screen..
[23:11] <Some_Person> i already saved this person's data
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: nobody will recover it from the drive
[23:12] <Some_Person> theres no need to
[23:12] <Darael> Some_Person: if you had had sensitive stuff on there, several passes of /dev/random would make it basically impossible to recover, but you don't need it really.
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: right but i assume you're wiping it because there's sensitive material on the drive
[23:12] <Some_Person> no
[23:12] <derenrich> Some_Person: why are you wiping it?
[23:13] <Some_Person> i'm wiping it because i suspect its corrupted
[23:13] <derenrich> o
[23:13] <Some_Person> no space left on device
[23:13] <Some_Person> that means its done right?
[23:13] <derenrich> yeah
[23:13] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm having trouble running something from the terminal. I have downloaded a tar.gz file and extracted it to my desktop. There is a single extracted file which has no extension, although it has been assigned a WINE icon. I can't run it from the terminal, or even open it with a text editor, yet I know this script works because I have seen other people using it. Any suggestions?
[23:14] <Darael> derenrich: using /dev/random will eat away at your entropy pool, so it might be better to use /dev/urandom. Though is that a little less secure?
[23:14] <SealedWithAKiss> I believe it's some kind of binary file.
[23:14] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: you may have to give it executable permissions first.
[23:15] <derenrich> Darael: true. I did use urandom. /dev/random is way slower since it will block when you run out of entropy (I think)
[23:15] <Some_Person> i assume that wiping it this way will remove any corruption
[23:15] <Artisteanonyme> !list
[23:15] <Berzerker> why doesn't firefox 3.0 update to 3.5?
[23:15] <mrwes> list?
[23:15] <mrwes> heh
[23:15] <derenrich> Some_Person: not sure about that
[23:15] <VCoolio> Berzerker: it's a different package
[23:15] <mrwes> o/ Dr_Willis
[23:15] <derenrich> Berzerker: because ubuntu is silly
[23:15] <SealedWithAKiss> Darael, I can r-w-x the file. I checked permissions.
[23:15] <Some_Person> i even put a new ribbon cable on it for good measure
[23:15] <maco> Berzerker: because it a major version release
[23:15] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: hmm.  no idea then.
[23:15] <Berzerker> so....wouldn't people want it to update it
[23:15] <maco> Berzerker: only security updates are automatic. 3.5 is packaged for jaunty though
[23:16] <derenrich> Berzerker: the ff3.5 package exists you just need to update manually
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: new versions can introduce new security issues and bugs, so they are not automatic
[23:16] <Some_Person> yay! windows installer now working
[23:16] <Berzerker> how do I update it?
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[23:16] <Berzerker> besides uninsatlling firefox 3 and installing 3.5
[23:16] <derenrich> i'm not sure if you should uninstall first, i'm unclear on that point
[23:16] <maco> Berzerker: itll be in your menu as "Shiretoko" so you dont have Firefox listed twice then stare at them like "er...which one...?"
[23:16]  * derenrich runs minefield atm
[23:16] <kaddi> you don't need to uninstall it first. I have both running side by side
[23:17] <derenrich> kaddi: using the same profile?
[23:17] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm having trouble running something from the terminal. I have downloaded a tar.gz file and extracted it to my desktop. There is a single extracted file which has no extension, although it has been assigned a WINE icon. I can't run it from the terminal, or even open it with a text editor, yet I know this script works because I have seen other people using it. Any suggestions?
[23:17] <kaddi> derenrich well originally yes, cause my old profile got copied over, however since then they went their own ways
[23:18] <derenrich> SealedWithAKiss: have you tried running it in wine?
[23:18] <gwildor> SealedWithAKiss, sh thescript
[23:18] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, you tried ./scriptname from the terminal?
[23:19] <stonith> Hey I have an off topic question.  I have a car that hasn't been running for 8+ months.  Obviously the car battery is dead.  Is it possible to jump from another car? Or do I need to charge the battery?
[23:19] <kaddi> derenrich the only "problem" I noticed so far is that the updates will point /usr/bin/firefox to the version they updated, so if you updated 3.0 last firefox will start FF 3.0 and if you updated 3.5 lat, firefox will start FF 3.5 which can be kind of annoying
[23:19] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, genius. Absolute genius. Why didn't I think of that?
[23:19] <kiaas_> o.o! I can transfer to my thumbdrive at 4MB/s..fastest I've ever gotten anything to go over USB.(and faster than my 100Mb/s connection..going to another PC with SATA drives....what?)
[23:19] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, unless it's not executable, then chmod u+x scriptname
[23:19] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, are you being a smart a s s ?
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, nahh lol I'm being series. It worked!
[23:20] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, good.
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, serious*
[23:20] <derenrich> kaddi: I think they really dropped the ball with ff, support is lacking here
[23:20] <Berzerker> maco, ok so how do I make it say "Firefox Web Browser" with the icon instead of shiretoko?
[23:20] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, thanks! Although now I can see how it may have sounded as though I was being funny.
[23:20] <Berzerker> maco, and uninstall firefox 3.0
[23:20] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, :)
[23:21] <mido> hi i need a program to force certain users on my computer to use only certain programs is there something like that?
[23:21] <soulwarp> mido: a pointy stick
[23:21] <maco> Berzerker: umm you can modify the .desktop file and play with user agent switcher...i guess
[23:21] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, why did I need the ./ in front of the name of the executable? Or that just how Linux does things?
[23:21] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, linux thingy
[23:21] <Berzerker> maco, desktop file?
[23:21] <kaddi> derenrich what makes you say that? I'm actually pretty happy with FF right now. 3.5 improved a lot of things and ubuntu-mozilla resolved  my problems with FF keeping running after closing. (which in the end wasn't a FF bug at all :p )
[23:22] <derenrich> kaddi: by they I mean canoncial not mozilla
[23:22] <mido> soulwarp can you explain more please
[23:22] <Darael> SealedWithAKiss: you have to supply a path rather than just a filename.  Can't remember why right now.
[23:22] <prince_jammys> SealedWithAKiss: since the command is not in your PATH where commands are normally searched for, the ./ means "in the current directory".
[23:22] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, basic terminal command stuff
[23:22] <heo> Anyone using IRSSI? How can close the DCC SERVER?
[23:22] <icarus> It should play straight away after Installation but if you get a white screen only on start up check out these simple steps for the fix
[23:22] <icarus> 1.Make a shortcut on your desktop of the hl2.exe file in portal directory
[23:22] <icarus> 2.Right click on the new shortcut and select properties and change the target to
[23:22] <icarus> "C:\Program Files\Portal\hl2.exe" -game portal -window -dxlevel 81 +mat_forcehardwaresync 0 But how do i do the Target bit in ubuntu ?
[23:23] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <derenrich> Darael: I believe it's a security reason, but I can't remember how
[23:23] <maco> Berzerker: /usr/share/applications/ has a .desktop file for firefox
[23:23] <soulwarp> mido:  you can right click the application drop menu and remove programs you don't want others to use
[23:23] <Viking_> anyone having problems with icons and folder disappearing on desktop ubuntu 9.04
[23:23] <maco> Berzerker: or edit the menu and manually rename it Firefox and replace the icon
[23:23] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, see, I have a /home/bill/tmp that I have in my path statement, therefore I run all install scripts from there and then I don't need to do that
[23:23] <Berzerker> how would I do this on UNR?
[23:24] <mrwes> SealedWithAKiss, it's not a big deal :)
[23:24] <kaddi> has anyone used these instructions to debug intel freezes: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-freeze-test or is knowledgable enough to help me run the debug mode all the time and get rid of the whole ssh step :p
[23:24] <rambo298> anyone tried quicken with VMware on 9.04?
[23:26] <bnovc> how do i get the screen-256color TERM in ubuntu?
[23:26] <mvsn> hello.. im wondering is there any way to broadcast the music played from ubuntu over the network so other workstations (linux/windows) can synchronize in and play through other speakers?
[23:26] <soulwarp> rambo298: i've read quicken works with wine also
[23:26] <SealedWithAKiss> mrwes, oh okay. Thanks!
[23:26] <rambo298> soulwarp: that's the crux of my q; i need to run quicken on linux ... so wine is ok given google has invested in it?
[23:26] <pharsalus> I'm after a scrolling ticker that lists the FTSE 100 as a full-width bar across the top/bottom of the screen. Any sugestions? GDesklets, and Google Gadgets didn't have anything.
[23:28] <soulwarp> rambo298: here is some information that might help you http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=15421
[23:28] <alokito> why isn't firefox 3.5 default in ubuntu yet?
[23:28] <_Lucretia_> is there an up to date bluetooth config howto anywhere? I found an old one.
[23:28] <soulwarp> alokito: It should be when 9.10 comes out
[23:28] <heroid> alokito, cuz firefox 3.0 is better
[23:29] <jedc> alokito, i tried it today and it still had a few issues for me, google search bar didnt work for instance
[23:29] <owner> hello. I need help. I have a HP Mini 110 1033cl and I can't get the intel sound to work
[23:29] <owner> I've tried everything
[23:29] <owner> Do I need to install alsa conf
[23:30] <owner> if so where do I get the packages from
[23:30] <owner> #ubuntu-help
[23:30] <pharsalus> I'm after a scrolling ticker that lists the FTSE 100 as a full-width bar across the top/bottom of the screen. Any sugestions? GDesklets, and Google Gadgets didn't have anything.
[23:30] <jedc> owner, its probably already installed
[23:30] <owner> alsa conf?
[23:30] <owner> in 9.04
[23:31] <owner> then how come if I type alsaconf or alsa-conf in terminal it says it has no idea what that command is
[23:31] <mrwes> owner, did you mean to type alsamixer?
[23:32] <jedc> owner, actually, i dont see it in the repos, maybe asoundconf-gtk?
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, found a way to update it
[23:32] <owner> ah
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, like actually update 3.0 itself to 3.5.2, by downloading it from getfirefox.com
[23:32] <owner> let me try that
[23:32] <Berzerker> maco, worked like a charm, thanks.
[23:33] <jedc> owner, but you can get all the packages from the software repositories either using the command line with apt-get or aptitude, or using the synaptic package manager
[23:33] <savanny1976u> Hi everyone, I just install "Nvidia  GeForce Gts 250". I can't get it to work with "Ubuntu 9.04". Does anyone have any Idea how to configure this?? I'm thinking to download the Device from a live Nvidia cd using "Wine", but I'm not sure. Thank you..
[23:33] <maco> Berzerker: please note that you will NOT receive security updates that way.  well i mean...firefox might tell you tehre are updates, but youll need to either install them manually or run firefox as root (BAD IDEA) for its updater to do the update
[23:33] <owner> ok
[23:33] <owner> I did that and it asked for the default card
[23:33] <owner> i picked intel
[23:33] <pharsalus> Anyone know of a financial tickertape widget/gadget/etc?
[23:33] <Berzerker> maco, why wouldn't I receive security updates that way?
[23:33] <maco> Berzerker: unless you have it sititng in home instead of installing it somewhere, that is
[23:33] <_Lucretia_> can someone tell me where an up to date bluetooth config howto can be found? I found an old one that's well out of date.
[23:33] <owner> do I need to restart my sound system?
[23:33] <Hiryu> is anyone aware of the issues with the xorg no-backfill patch? Does it strictly cause issues with the intel drivers or are other drivers affected as well?
[23:34] <Berzerker> maco, I have it installed in /opt
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: and firefox cannot write to /opt
[23:34] <Berzerker> it's linked in another folder
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: so it cant install security updates unless it is run as root, which would be a bad ida
[23:34] <jedc> Berzerker, firefox-3.5 is in the repos, better way to install it
[23:34] <Berzerker> to /usr/something
[23:34] <unop> jedc, i just got your questions about permissions and not allowing users to enter directories outside their homedirs - well, no, it's almost impossible given traditional unix permissions  - you could perhaps do it with POSIX ACLs, but the point is you need to be able to enter a directory to execute a program/script/etc within it
[23:34] <maco> Berzerker: *idea
[23:34] <Berzerker> jedc, I like to keep things clean
[23:34] <maco> jedc: he doesnt want it to say Shiretoko
[23:34] <Kelder> savanny1976u: basically when you install jaunty 9.04 you have the option to search for 'hardwire drivers' and if you do that that should take care of your graphics card
[23:35] <maco> Berzerker: er...and having it not able to install security updates is cleaner?
[23:35] <Berzerker> maco, yes
[23:35] <openback> I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically set at 1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly resolution and not my desktop
[23:35] <jedc> maco, i see
[23:35] <maco> Berzerker: security updates are a good thing dude
[23:35] <openback> oops, I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically set at  1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly resolution and  not my desktop
[23:36] <openback> argh, sorry :'P
[23:36] <kaddi> Berzerker if you don't apply security updates for 3.5 it would be wiser to stay with 3.0 all together
[23:36] <Berzerker> so I'll run it as root and install a security update for a second
[23:36] <Berzerker> no big deal
[23:36] <savanny1976u> Thanks Kelder. I tried that but the Hardware ubuntu hardware search wouldn't  Activate the software
[23:36] <Berzerker> unless you want to tell me how to rename it to firefox and change the icon
[23:36] <openback> I have a widescreen laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m with Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME) that was automatically  set at  1280x800 forever, and just recently, I'm stuck in 4:3 fro some reason. My gdm is in properly  resolution and  not my desktop. If I attempt to change my res, the display is squashed. Any idea how to fix this?
[23:37] <openback> wow, I typed that like I was on drugs, lol
[23:37] <savanny1976u> I think the hardware search didn't find the Device
[23:37] <jedc> unop, ah, thanks, food for thought
[23:37] <jedc> unop, hehe, reading back a way huh
[23:38] <spO> openback, what kind of drugs?
[23:38] <Vigh> is there any way I can install dapper packages on jaunty? (the package I'm trying to install is obsolete, but I need this specific version of it)
[23:38] <spO> openback, what drivers are you using?
[23:38] <jedc> unop, it looks like you can make directories unreadable though, so they can go into them, but not see anything there right?
[23:38] <savanny1976u> It did recognize the hardware but couldn't retrieve the software
[23:38] <rambo298> openback: you should verify your xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[23:39] <kaddi> Berzerker you could set up firefox-3.5 as your default browser, then every thing will be started by FF 3.5, if you want to start FF 3.5 from console by using the command firefox you can set an alias firefox= firefox-3.5 in bashrc. I have never bothered with the icon though
[23:39] <ctmjr> savanny1976u: go here look for your card and see what driver nvidia recommends http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[23:39] <savanny1976u> Thanks ctmjr, I will check that..
[23:39] <kaddi> Berzerker if it only affects your startmenu you can edit the startmenu entry
[23:39] <TimReichhart> could anybody please tell me where I can place faxgetty on startup on 8.04.3 TLS
[23:40] <openback> spO: The standard intel drivers? I never installed anything seperate
[23:40] <openback> rambo298: I've checked that, It's the simplest config you can get and hasn't changed in the longest. The weird part is my gdm is in the proper resolution still, just not my desktop once I log in
[23:41] <Some_Person> how do ribbon cables go bad?
[23:41] <rambo298> openback: what version of U ?
[23:41] <_Lucretia_> hcitool scan gives me "Device is not available: No such device" I'm on jaunty, I have a broadcom dongle, how do i get it working?
[23:41] <openback> rambo298: 9.04
[23:42] <soreau> Some_Person: They can just like any other wire can have a short in it
[23:42] <Moulan-> hello,  anyone here has any experience with the notebook hp mini 1000, running ubuntu jaunty on it? /q me
[23:45] <elioenai> Does anyone here know why sound may work when you first start your computer up, but then stops working after a few minutes in uuntu?
[23:47] <jMyles> Let's say I have an output from a command line and I want to grab the nth element from each row.... How?
[23:47] <kaddi> jMyles try awk
[23:48] <rambo298> openback: go read #5 here; it may be your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxinerama/+bug/61727
[23:48] <jMyles> kaddi: awk $4 or something like that?  I've done it before, I just can't recall.
[23:48] <starwind> hey, what command would I need to use to install guest additions in karmic guest
[23:48] <rambo298> openback: then again ... maybe not
[23:49] <kaddi> jMyles I haven't used it in a while either.. but from memory: awk -F"seperator you're using" '{print $4}' should work
[23:49] <Sp0tter> What is a good open source multiplatform backup solution that can take images of the hard disk and restore from a network drive using a bootable rescue cd?   needs to run on windows and linux
[23:49] <jedc> starcraftman, what are guest additions?
[23:49] <ctmjr> starwind: you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:49] <starwind> oops, sorry  :(
[23:49] <starwind> thanks
[23:50] <nanotube> kaddi: yea, that should be it
[23:50] <Vigh> is there any way I can install dapper packages (from the ubuntu repos) on jaunty? (the package I'm trying to install is obsolete, but I need this specific version of it)
[23:51] <jedc> Vigh, i would suggest downloading it manually and installing with "dpkg -i <packagename>" instead of trying to set it up with apt
[23:53] <mido> can anybody help me with preventing certain users from accessing certain applications?
[23:54] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hey guys
[23:54] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> o /
[23:55] <nanotube> !hi | Kamus_H_Zwisch
[23:55] <coordinador> mido, you can make a special group
[23:55] <coordinador> and give to the executable the permissions of execute to its own group
[23:55] <Berzerker> kaddi, how do I uninstall it from my manual install?
[23:55] <coordinador> sorry for my english, my main language is spanish and im in a hurry
[23:56] <mido> thx coordinador
[23:56] <nanotube> Berzerker: for installing mozilla build of firefox, i'd recommend ubuntuzilla (http://ubuntuzilla.sourceforge.net)
[23:57] <jedc> mido, that way only members of the group (and root) could execute the program
[23:58] <kaddi> Berzerker once you installed something, your package manager should be able to find it
[23:58] <Kelder> ideally
[23:58] <cr0mulent> can I move my current ubuntu installation off my hard drive and onto a usb drive?
[23:58] <amitmali> hi
[23:58] <amitmali> i m new to linux and ubuntu
[23:58] <amitmali> i need some help
[23:58] <mido> i want to prevent one user only from acessing certain applications?
[23:59] <Berzerker> kaddi, I found out how to change the icon/text. it's in the Main Menu application under preferences.
[23:59] <Berzerker> for future references
[23:59] <amitmali> i have an installation problem
[23:59] <edbian> !ask | amitmali
[23:59] <edbian> amitmali: What is your question"
[23:59] <edbian> ?
[23:59] <Kelder> yes, but if you want it to be bootable you might want to write a special usb
[23:59] <kaddi> Berzerker :)