[00:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, I am drunk :P
[00:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: add LGPL and you get an ACK
[00:05] <Riddell> I did
[00:05] <Riddell> the .orig should be updated
[00:05] <Riddell> Messages.sh too now
[00:05] <Riddell> not yet
[00:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, rainct changed the revu <buttons> to <input>, since the latter actually gets rendered as buttons by konqueror
[00:08] <Riddell> now
[00:08] <apachelogger> shoudl be arriving soonish
[00:10] <Riddell> the debdiff only diffs the debian directories it seems
[00:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: on plasma-widget-facebook could you see if it works at all, the packaging is less important than it installing and being able to run
[00:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: in previous versions of revu it included a whole diff, which makes a lot more sense for most reviews IMHO
[00:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: acked
[00:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: I don't have a facebook account so I could only test installing + init
[00:27] <Riddell> apachelogger: but plasma can load it?
[00:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: no, the packaging is wrongish
[00:29] <apachelogger> for some reason the package the is rather empty
[00:29] <apachelogger> oh, it is not
[00:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: the desktop file is wrong name + wrong directory
[00:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/plasmoids/facebook/metadata.desktop ?
[00:30] <apachelogger> aye, should be in share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-facebook.desktop (I think, i.e. please sanity proof)
[00:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, checkout revu
[00:36] <apachelogger> finally the buttons are actually themed
[00:36]  * apachelogger finds that quite awesome
[00:36] <Riddell> well it works for me where it is
[00:37] <apachelogger> yeah, but the the buttons looked like crap :)
[00:37] <Riddell> looks like a button to me
[00:38] <apachelogger> yeah, didn't before
[00:39] <apachelogger> more like someone puked or something
[00:41] <slacker_nl> is there a way to find out which repo was used for a particular package?
[00:41] <Riddell> I'm
[00:41] <Riddell> slacker_nl: apt-cache policy <package>
[00:41] <slacker_nl> Riddell: i want to know which packages i have installed are from $repo
[00:41] <Riddell> I'm not convinced by your moving of the facebook .desktop file, where does the code go?
[00:42] <slacker_nl> Riddell: was hoping some kind of dpkg -l --show_repo command ;)
[00:50] <Riddell> hmm, to complex this, time for bed
[00:52]  * apachelogger gives Riddell a good nice kiss and pulls the blanket up to Riddell's ears
[01:07] <a|wen> g'night all around (head hits pillow...)
[02:04] <shtylman> ryanakca: yay for ubiquity bugs :)
[02:15] <shtylman> any feed back on the fullscreen installer? do we like it being fullscreen yea/no?
[02:21] <ryanakca> shtylman: I like it, as long as the minimize icon remains
[02:22] <shtylman> k...that it shall
[02:29] <kub1> "kdebase" is not installed on my recently installed KU 904 with todays apt-update.  Shouldn't it be??? - I got no reply in #KUbuntu, anyone here know the answer?
[02:41] <apachelogger> ryanakca: I could even live without a minimize icon ;-) ... that said, if the user goes straight to the installer (i.e. not via the live session) will the minimize icon not be displayed?
[02:45] <kub1> Anyone know when KU904 will get the functionality like in adept, the gui apt mgr in KU 804? ie, something better than KPackageKit?
[02:46] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I would assume so, but I'm not the one writting it ;)
[02:49] <apachelogger> shtylman: ^
[02:49] <apachelogger> ryanakca: I though you tested it :P
[02:51] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I did today. Took all morning ;)
[02:52] <shtylman> apachelogger: yes...if in install only mode..you cannot minimize
[02:52] <apachelogger> ok
[02:52] <apachelogger> I love the installer then
[02:52] <apachelogger> seriously
[02:52] <shtylman> if this is not the case a bug should be filed :)
[02:52] <shtylman> thanks
[02:52] <apachelogger> I totally went crazy
[02:52] <apachelogger> so did my best friend
[02:52] <shtylman> hahaha
[02:52] <apachelogger> way too awesome :)
[02:52]  * apachelogger buries shtylman in cookies for that
[02:53] <shtylman> thats the reaction I was hoping for :)
[02:54] <apachelogger> well, with that kind of improvement what else could you expect
[02:54] <apachelogger> also, I wonder how ubuntu can top that :P
[02:54] <shtylman> heh
[02:55] <shtylman> I don't know if they will try to ... not everyone would like the installer to be like that..I am sure some people prefer the app looking one
[02:56] <apachelogger> well, trust me on that, $bestfriend is a  hardcore usecase user, so if he likes it, you can be sure it fits at least 90% of the target audience
[02:57] <shtylman> cool
[02:58] <shtylman> got a few more improvements to add to it...then it will be where I envisioned it when I started this frontend skinning
[06:29] <ScottK> Just got back from seele's birthday party.
[06:39] <ScottK> Did anyone test an updated knetworkmanager snapshot with the new -workspace?
[06:42] <maco> i got home first and i used public transit!
[06:47] <ScottK> You live way closer than I do.
[06:57] <maco> oh
[06:57] <maco> are you a columbia person?
[06:57] <ScottK> Ellicott City (past Columbia)
[07:10] <maco> yikes
[11:45] <Riddell> asac: did you work out what was still needed for a working knm?
[11:56] <asac> Riddell: nothing new needed. just what i told initially ... you need to bump knetworkmanager to trunk if you bump workspace to latest from branch ;)
[11:57] <asac> it worked perfectly here when using the trunk with the workspace version that has the patch applied
[11:57] <asac> confirmed it yesterday
[11:57]  * asac is on swap day though
[11:58] <Riddell> stop looking at your computer then!
[11:58] <Lure> Riddell: any plans to merge latest pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.4.11) into karmic? google-akonadi package from debian would like it
[12:00]  * Lure is still confused by quassel connect and konversation doesn't when at work
[12:00] <Lure> s/by/why
[12:00] <Riddell> Lure: I've no plans but it shouldn't be hard
[12:02] <Lure> Riddell: is there any concer as to newer packages, as it has bigger changes - may cause build-from-source problems for some packages
[12:02] <Lure> Riddell: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/pkg-kde-tools/pkg-kde-tools_0.4.11/changelog
[12:02] <Riddell> hmm, debhelper 7 complexity
[12:03] <Lure> Riddell: I may look into merging it and trying it out in my ppa with akonadi, then you can decide what to do
[12:04]  * Lure does not know, as I am not following packaging changes lately
[12:05] <Riddell> Lure: the kubuntu changes should all be factored out into kubuntu.mk now so it should just be a case of including that into kde.mk and debian-qt-kde.mk
[12:05] <Riddell> but I could be wrong
[12:05] <Riddell> asac: well it's working today although it wasn't yesterday for me, so I'll package that up
[12:05] <Lure> Riddell: it does look like, yes
[12:06] <asac> Riddell: you need scottk workspace and latest knetworkmanager
[12:06] <asac> i just tried to put the trunk bump patch intot he package and added it to series
[12:06] <asac> but seems that the package doesnt apply any patches ;)
[12:06] <asac> so take care ;)
[12:07] <asac> hmm
[12:07] <asac> odd
[12:07] <asac> you will know what to do ;)
[12:07] <asac> just package latest trunk and all will be fine if you also have latest 4.3.0 workspace
[12:08] <Riddell> asac: go and do holiday things!
[12:08] <asac> ack
[12:08] <asac> till next week then
[12:29] <Nightrose> hmmm I wonder if it is better to install firefox or chromium on the eeepc wrt space
[12:30] <Nightrose> i need one of them for google gears but am short on disk space
[12:30] <Nightrose> anyone know which of them would need more disk space?
[12:32] <apachelogger> Nightrose: chromium doesn't support gears yet I think
[12:32] <Nightrose> bah not?
[12:32] <Nightrose> i thought it was build in..
[12:32] <apachelogger> really don't thik so
[12:33] <Nightrose> hmm ok - that'd make the decision easy
[12:33]  * Nightrose will check at home
[12:33] <Nightrose> thx
[13:05] <ScottK2> Riddell and NCommander: KDE/Qt Main retries on armel are done and we're into Universe now.  Amarok and kdeplasma-addons have real build failures that need investigating by someone that knows what they are doing.
[13:09] <Riddell> rocking stuff ScottK
[13:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: plasma-widget-facebook needs that .desktop file in both places to work, sneaky
[13:39] <apachelogger> ohhh
[13:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: true
[13:40] <apachelogger> it's the very same in .kde ... if you just move the plasmoid to .kde/share/plasma it won't get in the list
[13:40] <apachelogger> so plasmapkg -i will install the source _and_ add a desktop file for ksycoca to be found
[13:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: yep
[13:41] <Riddell> I wonder what this does http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/akonadi-resource-googledata
[13:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: akonadi resource for google calendar and contacts
[13:42] <apachelogger> i.e. syncs desktop with those
[13:43] <Riddell> that sounds very useful
[13:44] <ScottK> Riddell: It's in Debian already.
[13:45] <ScottK> We just need to sync/merge some depends first
[13:46] <Riddell> ScottK: packages.d.o doesn't see it
[13:48] <ScottK> Riddell: It's still in New.  Sorry.  The packaging is in qt-kde team svn.
[13:51] <ScottK> Riddell: I've got a copy of the md5sum identical tarball locally for it.
[13:51] <Riddell> ok so we can archive Tonio_'s one from revu
[13:52] <ScottK> Yes
[13:53] <ScottK> We need the newer kde-pkg-tools Lure was mentioning earlier and libgcal synced and then I should be able to just upload it.
[13:53] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^
[13:54] <Tonio_> hi
[13:54]  * Tonio_ is finally in canada
[13:54] <ScottK> Hello Tonio_.  Welcome to North America
[13:54] <Tonio_> ScottK: :)
[13:54] <cbr> aha! now i know why totem wont play videos @ firefox anymore
[13:54] <Tonio_> I'm there for 6 weeks, nothing to do in the evening
[13:54] <cbr> ubuntu dropped the xine backend
[13:55] <cbr> and gstreamer is an epic fail (tm)
[13:55] <Tonio_> I'm finally done with all the administrative stuff...
[14:02] <ScottK> Tonio_: Did you try plasma-netbook yet?
[14:05] <Tonio_> ScottK: not yet, I was planning to test this WE, since I have basically nothing to do here :)
[14:05] <Tonio_> ScottK: needs testing and default settings I guess
[14:05] <Tonio_> ScottK: does it come by default with kubuntu-netbook right now ?
[14:06] <ScottK> Tonio_: Needs some help with hacking on it too
[14:06] <ScottK> Yes
[14:06] <Tonio_> ScottK: kk
[14:06] <ScottK> As of Tuesday
[14:06] <Tonio_> ScottK: well, I was really out of the game since now cause I had priorities, but that's over now
[14:06] <ScottK> Upstream is very open to contributions.
[14:06] <Tonio_> ScottK: you can count on me for this we
[14:06] <Tonio_> ScottK: especially since I'm on the same time zone than you now (or almost)
[14:07] <ScottK> Where in Canada are you?
[14:07] <ScottK> The main then is to help upstream get plasma-netbook as finished as we can.
[14:08] <Tonio_> ScottK: nearby montreal, sherbrooke
[14:09] <ScottK> Tonio_: So you are in -0400 now, right?
[14:12] <Lure> ScottK, Tonio_: you were interested for akonadi-googledata, right?
[14:12] <Tonio_> ScottK: yep
[14:12] <Lure> I have debian package with updated libgcal and pkg-kde-tools (merge) in my ppa
[14:12] <Tonio_> Lure: yes, but it doesn't work as well as I expected
[14:13] <Tonio_> Lure: right now I'm a lot more interested in the akonadi-syncml plugin
[14:13] <Lure> Tonio_: calendar works for me, not sure about recurring events yet
[14:13] <Tonio_> Lure: but it would be nice to have both
[14:13] <Tonio_> Lure: there are gsoc projects so should be over in septembedr
[14:13] <Tonio_> hopefully
[14:14] <ScottK> Lure: It seems like something we should have.
[14:14] <ScottK> Tonio_: Same TZ as me then.
[14:14] <Tonio_> ScottK: oki ;)
[14:14] <Tonio_> great
[14:15] <Tonio_> ScottK: I have packages on my ppa for those akonadi plugins
[14:15] <Tonio_> those may not be svn up to date anyway
[14:16] <ScottK> The google data one I have the md5sum identical tarball from Debian and their packaging so once the depends are updated, I can just upload it.
[14:18] <Lure> ScottK: in my ppa it is exact package from fabo
[14:18] <ScottK> KO
[14:18] <ScottK> OK even
[14:19] <Lure> ScottK: if you can review pkg-kde-merge in my ppa it would be great
[14:19] <Lure> or Riddell ^^^
[14:19] <ScottK> Lure: I really need to focus on $WORK today.
[14:19] <ScottK> (and am not currently succeeding)
[14:19] <Lure> ScottK: no problem, for Riddell this actually means work ;-)
[14:19] <Lure> ScottK: I know the feeling ;-)
[14:20] <Riddell> ScottK: /quit may help  :)
[14:20] <Riddell> _Sime: aren't you ment to be on holiday?
[14:20] <Riddell> Quintasan: what's the status of   http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-applet-flickr ?
[14:20] <_Sime> Riddell: wifi baby!
[14:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: It's already in repos
[14:20] <_Sime> the beach is just 20-30 meters away.
[14:21] <Lure> Riddell: here is link: https://edge.launchpad.net/~lure/+archive/ppa
[14:21] <Lure> Riddell: whenevr you have time ;-)
[14:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: groovy, archived on revu
[14:21] <Lure> _Sime: stop teasing us! ;-)
[14:21] <Riddell> Lure: will do
[14:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: You can nuke packages?
[14:22] <Lure> Riddell: are you archive-admin still? Then you can also take care for bug 411679 ;-)
[14:23]  * Quintasan got some packages to nuke
[14:24] <apachelogger> didn't I like kill the KHC search?
[14:24] <apachelogger> a drage it is
[14:26] <_Sime> cya, have to go snokeling... B-)
[14:26] <Riddell> Quintasan: I can archive on revu yes
[14:27] <Quintasan> nah, I want them to disappear from there
[14:27] <Quintasan> anyone is working on aurorae?
[14:33] <Riddell> not that I know of
[14:37] <Quintasan> Then I will try to package it
[14:37] <Riddell> Quintasan: we already have kwin-style-aurorae
[14:37] <Riddell> in the arhicve
[14:37] <Riddell> I don't know if it's the latest version
[14:38] <Quintasan> I wanted to ask that :O
[14:38]  * mgraesslin uploaded a new tarball to kde-look today so it probably isn't
[14:39] <Quintasan> well, I'm up for updating it if I find diff.gz
[14:39] <Riddell> Quintasan: apt-get source or get it from launchpad
[14:40]  * Quintasan is still on jaunty
[14:40] <Riddell> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-googlecalendar needing review (still to poke upstream into including COPYING file)
[14:41]  * apachelogger needs a bug status dont-care-geek-crap
[14:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: code does neither contain copyright nor license statements either
[14:43] <Quintasan> hurr durr, why do I always forget about dget -x?
[14:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: as I just said :)
[14:46] <apachelogger> 3) according to kde-look 1.1.1 is out, I suppose upgrading makes sense
[14:46] <apachelogger> 4) copyright header seciton should be Upstream-Name: Upstream-Maintainer: ...
[14:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[14:46] <Lure> Riddell: thanks for libgcal sync
[14:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: I suppose kde.mk could use some fancy feature to auto-create a symlink form metadata.desktop to the services directory
[14:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: speedcrunch does not localize
[14:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: it should, it has enough .qm files in /usr/share/speedcrunch/locale
[14:54] <apachelogger> sorry, that statement was incomplete
[14:54] <apachelogger> bug 366285
[14:54] <apachelogger> it does not localize when KDE country settings are changed
[14:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubiquity/kde-desktop-file/+merge/10155
[14:57] <Quintasan> Yay for broken kernel in jaunty and nonworking fglxrx in karmic :S
[14:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: can we do something about that at all?
[14:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: it appears that the decimal symbol is set via the qm file
[14:59] <apachelogger> so unless the lang is switched, there is little chance to get the decimal symbol changed
[15:03] <apachelogger> hm
[15:03] <apachelogger> BUG
[15:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: the window name of systemsettings is not translated
[15:03] <apachelogger> I suppose that is caused by desktop file stuff
[15:12] <dpm> apachelogger: I've started tagging Kubuntu translation bugs as (imaginatively enough) 'kubuntu' in the ubuntu-translations project in order to keep track of them (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu) what you are mentioning would be a good candidate to be reported
[15:12] <dpm> there
[15:13] <apachelogger> dpm: I'd rather fix it right away ;-)
[15:14] <dpm> oh yeah, that's always the preferred approach :-)
[15:27] <ScottK> \o/
[15:27] <ScottK> Connecting now via knetworkmanager
[15:27] <ScottK> asac: ^^^
[15:27] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^^
[15:27] <ScottK> This is with wpa-psk
[15:34] <ScottK> apachelogger: Would you please add kubuntunetbook to the kubuntu group on identi.ca?
[15:34] <ScottK> Is that how that works?
[15:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: is kubuntunetbook a group or what?
[15:39] <Riddell> ScottK: awooga
[15:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: No.  It's just me 'denting about netbook stuff
[15:49] <maco> ScottK: then you add yourself to it
[15:50] <maco> groups are join, not invite
[15:57] <maco> segphault's talking about making a plasma frontend to gwibber
[15:58] <maco> since he's writing a daemon + tack-on gui version now for gnome
[15:58] <maco> and um the µblog plasmoid is useless...doesnt post...only shows your own updates...
[15:58] <Riddell> maco: that would be cool
[15:58] <smarter> then it should be fixed
[15:59] <maco> he said he looked at the current plasmoid's code and its fubar :P
[16:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, the problem is that some (almost all?) desktop files define -capation "%c" as exec argument, easiest solution would probably be to strip that in the cdbs magic
[16:00] <apachelogger> but
[16:00] <apachelogger> this will not work for say gnome apps that define -capation
[16:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: I've never understood the need for that
[16:00] <apachelogger> it is not
[16:00] <apachelogger> maybe it is faster or something
[16:01] <Riddell> no it's not, an app knows its own name regardless
[16:01] <Riddell> maybe it's used before the app has started though
[16:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: where did nuno mention that Kubuntu wasn't part of the branding idea?
[16:02] <smarter> for the taskbar entry while the cursor is bouncing?
[16:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: in a quey we had
[16:02] <maco> branding idea?
[16:02] <ScottK> Riddell: Still crashy however (knm).  Two crashes awaiting retrace right now.
[16:03] <Riddell> neversfelde: new plasma-widget-plasmaboard out
[16:03] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't think I've ever had it crash on me
[16:03] <ScottK> Riddell: OK, we'll see what the backtraces say.
[16:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am not sure where that -capation stuff gets filled in from though ... my best guess is somewhere within kservicegroup, which creates a kdesktopfile object and then creates a kconfigroup using its desktopGroup() function, from that it apparently gathers the capation
[16:04] <apachelogger> m_strCaption = config.readEntry( "Name" );
[16:04] <maco> Riddell: plasma-widget-plasmaboard?
[16:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: but for me anything underneath kdesktopfile just becomes more and more cryptic
[16:06] <Riddell> neversfelde: on screen keyboard
[16:07] <smarter> reminds me I have to look at it
[16:08] <smarter> and adds to it some features from Kvkbd
[16:08] <apachelogger> well, it appears to implement kconfig and puts all the information into a kconfiggroup obviously
[16:08] <apachelogger> but I have no idea where to hook into kconfig in order to create a fallback if resolution from desktop file content fails
[16:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe you have more luck :)
[16:10]  * apachelogger needs to take a shower
[16:11] <asac> ScottK: nice. finally all the bits are up ;)
[16:12]  * asac off again for swap day ;)
[16:12] <ScottK> asac: Yes.  Enjoy your day off.
[16:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: I did join the kubuntu group, but kubuntunetbook doesn't show up as a member?
[16:14] <ScottK> Posts don't show up either.
[16:16] <ScottK> Can someone check if wep works with today's knetworkmanager?
[16:16] <Riddell> ScottK: working for me
[16:16] <ScottK> Kewl.  You really should upgrade to wpa
[16:19] <Riddell> I usually don't use any encryption, but my neighbours started using gnutella so had to change that
[16:22] <apachelogger> ScottK: I dont think that is how groups work
[16:22] <apachelogger> you'd need to have !kubuntu in the posts
[16:23] <ScottK> Ah.
[16:23] <ScottK> I see.
[16:23] <ScottK> Got it.
[16:43] <ScottK> Quintasan or lex79: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kde4+bluetooth+files+open?content=108869 might be worth packaging.  I can confirm blueman works way better than kdebluetooth right now.
[16:51] <neversfelde> Riddell: I am not at home till end of next week, but I will have a look at it after I return.
[17:03] <lex79> ScottK: I have not bluetooth in my desktop, so I can't test the package if I do, maybe Quintasan has a notebook
[17:04] <ScottK> lex79: I can test it.
[17:07] <lex79> ok
[17:12] <maco> hey wait i heard we can use osx dashboard widgets on kde
[17:12] <maco> how?
[17:17] <Sput> Riddell: in Germany, recently the police have raided and searched a home and took all network equipment with them because the guy supposedly ran an open WLAN
[17:17] <Sput> at least that's what they gave him as a reason why they wouldn't need a judge to grant permission to search his home
[17:17] <Sput> "Imminent Danger because of an open WLAN"
[17:20] <maco> wtf
[17:20] <jussi01> mmm, IM hungry
[17:25] <Riddell> http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10013420o-2000498448b,00.htm  "
[17:25] <Riddell> "Kubuntu Netbook Release Coming"
[17:28] <Riddell> shtylman: bzr diff -r 3364..3365  on ubiquity, lots more changes for timezones for kde frontend
[17:32] <lex79> Riddell: can you upload digikam, kipi-plugins, choqok and kde-style-qtcurve from bzr ? :) thanks
[17:33] <Riddell> someone's been busy
[17:35] <Riddell> lex79: choqok 0.6.6-0ubuntu1  where's the new .orig.tar.gz?
[17:35] <lex79> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Choqok?content=95760
[17:37] <Riddell> an actual download link preferred
[17:38] <lex79> Riddell: http://mirror.umoss.org/download.ospdev.net/choqok/choqok/0.6.6/choqok-0.6.6.tar.bz2
[17:40] <Riddell> lex79: got links for the other ones (if I need them)?
[17:42] <lex79> Riddell: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/digikam/digikam_1.0.0~beta3.orig.tar.gz
[17:42] <lex79> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kipi-plugins/kipi-plugins_0.5.0.orig.tar.gz
[17:44] <lex79> Riddell: http://home.freeuk.com/cpdrummond/QtCurve-KDE4-0.67.5.tar.bz2
[17:49] <Riddell> lex79: the get-orig-source in kde-style-qtcurve doesn't work, could you fix it or remove it?
[17:49] <lex79> Riddell: ok I'll do
[17:53] <Riddell> lex79: rest uploaded
[17:54] <lex79> Riddell: also I've soprano-backend-sesame 2.3.0
[17:54] <lex79> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soprano-backend-sesame/+bug/412786
[17:56] <Riddell> lex79: super
[17:58] <Riddell> lex79: uploaded, thanks
[18:07] <lex79> Riddell: launchpad bug 407727
[18:15] <Riddell> ryanakca: about?
[18:21] <lex79> Which the difference between /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/debhelper/kde.mk and /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk ?
[18:21] <lex79> pkg-kde-tools 0.4.11 introduced /debhelper/kde.mk, we should switch to this for new packages?
[18:25] <Riddell> lex79: debhelper/kde.mk is scary debhelper 7 stuff, I'd ignore it for now
[18:26] <lex79> okay
[18:27] <user321> Hello All, this is Max from the web browser project: http://dooble.sf.net  - We currently try a linux deb release.
[18:27] <user321> Maybe someone wants to support that, we use Qt and Webkit, currently two members of this community encouraged me, to ask here in the forum
[18:28] <user321> With the follwing idea:
[18:28] <user321> we have a desktop integrated in the browser, the Dooble Desktop
[18:29] <user321> and one idea is to make the browser the desktop of a linux kernel, so that apps an be started from the browsers desktop, like google android
[18:29] <user321> if kde apps then want to use an own main window, then nothing changes, and if they want to plug in into one browser tab, that is as well possible
[18:30] <user321> if you want to have a look , try a compile out of the SVN with Qt environment with qmake just dooble.pro file
[18:30] <user321> it is one click to compile, but deb package needs longer
[18:30] <user321> our contact mailinglist is: "dooble-team" <Dooble-team@lists.sourceforge.net>,
[18:31] <user321> join if you like
[18:31] <user321> screen movie is here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m316_dooble-web-browser-sumaawardsapplic_school
[18:32] <user321> we have desktop, 45 languages and not an addicted google search attitude.
[18:32] <Riddell> agateau: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/konversation-devel/2009-August/002915.html
[18:32] <user321> SVN http://dooble.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/dooble/
[18:33] <agateau> Riddell: I gave an explanation about this in your blog comments, can you paste it there/point them there
[18:33] <agateau> (I am not subscribed to konversation-devel@ and about to be on holiday)
[18:34] <Riddell> yeah, you french and your 35 hour week :)
[18:34] <Riddell> I'll reply to him
[18:34] <agateau> Riddell: :) are you being jealous?
[18:41] <agateau> Riddell: new kmail patch with almost-completely-working configuration ui available on my page
[18:42] <agateau> http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/indicate/
[18:42] <agateau> Time for holidays
[18:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: :) as I already said, even for most french, 35 hours a week is just a legend :)
[18:42] <Tonio_> agateau could confirm this I guess :)
[18:42] <Tonio_> agateau: hi, btw
[18:42] <Riddell> Tonio_: unlike you Canadian slackers :)
[18:42] <agateau> hi Tonio_
[18:42] <agateau> yes, I confirm!
[18:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: haha
[18:43] <smarter> hey Tonio_
[18:43] <Riddell> agateau: rocking
[18:43] <Riddell> agateau: bon vacance
[18:43] <agateau> Riddell: thanks!
[18:43] <smarter> Riddell: *bonnes vacances
[18:43] <smarter> :p
[18:43] <agateau> :)
[18:43] <Tonio_> agateau: going on vacations ? have fun then
[18:43] <Riddell> smarter: but but, it's only one vacance
[18:44] <agateau> Riddell: it's like being on holiday*s*
[18:44] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm at work, but yes
[18:44] <Riddell> I only every go on one holiday at a time
[18:44] <agateau> anyway, daugther is waiting for me, have to go for real now
[19:40] <Lure> Riddell, asac: thanks for working k-n-m - wpa2-psk works for me now
[19:41] <ulaas> hi! mp3 is broken?
[19:41] <ulaas> hi! mp3 is broken?
[19:43] <ulaas> yay! stupid irc colors...
[19:44] <ulaas> Lure: how, where ,when?
[19:47] <ulaas> Lure: ah you are talking about the kde3 knm
[19:47] <Lure> ulaas: no, kde4 knetworkmanager in karmic
[19:48] <ulaas> Lure: the beautiful plasmoid?
[19:48] <Lure> ulaas: no, standalone app (tray icon)
[19:48] <Lure> ulaas: plasma is being developed
[19:49] <ulaas> thats qt3...
[19:49] <ulaas> anyway
[19:50] <ulaas> any info on mp3?
[19:50] <a|wen> ulaas: nope qt4.5/kde4 knetworkmanager
[19:51] <ulaas> a|wen: ok! i am listening...
[19:51] <a|wen> you mean the mp3 in general (the libs)?
[19:52] <ulaas> a|wen: i have xine and gst backends. still no mp3 from amarok
[19:52] <ulaas> xine-ui also cannot playback. (yes the ffmpeg plugin is installed)
[19:53] <ulaas> no wonder this is an alpha :)
[19:53] <ulaas> a|wen: one by one please :) knm.. where is that?
[19:54] <a|wen> ulaas: default in karmic since a week or two ago ... starts automatically and is in the systray
[19:54] <ulaas> a|wen: hmm package name? i am a ubuntu-desktop convert
[19:57] <a|wen> ulaas: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:57] <ulaas> a|wen: sure! thats the easiest way to from gnome to kde  :)
[19:58] <a|wen> should be pulled in as a depends or recommends from that ... but has been fixed very recently (and needs restart of kde i think)
[19:59] <ulaas> a|wen: you are positive that it goes ok with wpa2 psk ?
[20:00] <a|wen> plasma-widget-networkmanagement it's called
[20:00]  * a|wen is in the process of testing on his own karmic install
[20:08] <ulaas> i will give it a try
[20:08] <ulaas> kamikazeeeeeee
[21:14] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[21:53] <_StefanS_> evening
[21:54] <a|wen> evening _StefanS_
[22:44] <ScottK> Riddell: Point for quassel on upstream responsiveness.  One of davmor2's alpha testing bug was committed in the upstream git based on conversation here before a bug even got filed (and it's in the archive today).
[22:58] <lex79> a|wen: plasma-runner-amarok needs one final ack in revu if you have time
[23:08] <a|wen> lex79: i'm taking a look
[23:20] <Monika|K> http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=KDE&word2=Gnome ha!
[23:30] <lex79> thanks
[23:33] <a|wen> lex79: check revu
[23:34] <lex79> well, thanks :)
[23:36] <a|wen> yw :)
[23:39] <Quintasan> a|wen: I have update ready for kwin-style-{crystal,aurorae} ready, I should do something like filing a bug etc. or just poke someone?
[23:39] <a|wen> Quintasan: new upstream release?
[23:39] <Quintasan> yup
[23:40] <a|wen> Quintasan: upload to REVU ... and either file a bug or poke someone or both
[23:40] <Quintasan> hurr, updates to REVU?
[23:41] <shtylman> Riddell: yea...I see that and I am quite unhappy with the changes actually... I don't like the strong coupling between the timezone class and the frontend...I prefer to keep it through signals/slots, it also makes testing the timezone independently of the frontend easier...
[23:41] <Quintasan> hi shtylman
[23:41] <shtylman> he also introduced unnessesary loops I think
[23:41] <shtylman> Quintasan: hey
[23:42] <a|wen> Quintasan: well, it works ... you can dsc the package there (which you can't if you upload it in LP); LP is usable for debdiffs but not anything more
[23:43] <Quintasan> a|wen: I put it to REVU, now who should I poke?
[23:43] <shtylman> but if it works...it works I suppose
[23:43] <a|wen> Quintasan: package in main or universe?
[23:43] <Quintasan> universe
[23:44] <shtylman> I actually think the changes wern't needed to support what he was doing...he just chose to change it
[23:44] <shtylman> although I could be wrong on that
[23:44] <lex79> upload new upstream release to revu is not need, I've never done
[23:45] <shtylman> anyhow.... I assume these changes were done to remain consistent with his changes to the way the backend handles the timezones
[23:45] <Quintasan> lex79: too late anyways :P
[23:46] <lex79> :(
[23:46]  * Quintasan should get REVU admin to delete his old stuff
[23:46] <a|wen> Quintasan: go poke some MOTU
[23:46]  * a|wen runs and hides :P
[23:46] <Quintasan> a|wen: poke
[23:46] <Quintasan> :3
[23:47] <lex79> lol
[23:49] <a|wen> lex79: revu not needed; any other place where you can dget the package from is fine
[23:50] <lex79> Quintasan: next time, you can open a new bug in LP "New upstream release name_of_the_package version xyz" and attach diff.gz,dsc,tar.gz and subscribe to "Ubuntu sponsor for universe sponsor"
[23:50] <lex79> Quintasan: example launchpad bug 413736
[23:50] <Quintasan> well, I forgot a|wen is a MOTU but he blown up his cover :P
[23:50] <lex79> a|wen: yes
[23:51] <a|wen> Quintasan: looking at crystal now ;)
[23:51] <Quintasan> lex79: thanks
[23:51] <lex79> no problem
[23:52]  * Quintasan needs to work on his dh-only package
[23:52] <a|wen> lex79: well, you can do that ... but I rate it a pain having it in LP as you can't download it (and I know I'm not the only one)
[23:52] <lex79> right
[23:53] <Quintasan> a|wen: I heard you need to do at least one dh-only package before getting into MOTU, asking out of curiosty, what did you do?
[23:54] <Quintasan> s/curiosty/curiosity
[23:56] <a|wen> Quintasan: huh, I didn't hear about that ... iirc python-uniconvertor is dh-only
[23:57]  * Quintasan checks backlog to determine who the hell told him that
[23:57] <a|wen> Quintasan: version of crystal package is wrong
[23:58] <Quintasan> apachelogger!
[23:58] <Quintasan> argh, should be 0ubuntu1
[23:58]  * shtylman debates doing a clean install of alpha4 ... should I?
[23:59] <lex79> apachelogger jokes :P
[23:59] <Quintasan> I think I'm going to epic troll him one day :>