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MDC1awalton, thanks for the eel tip, seems to be working just fine :) now of to bed01:48
awalton_laptopMDC1, yw.01:49
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huatsmorning everyone08:23
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone09:22
hyperairmorning.09:23
* hyperair stares at the clock09:23
hyperairactually, evening.09:24
chrisccoulsonhi hyperair09:24
hyperairhi chrisccoulson =)09:24
chrisccoulsonits still morning here (hopefully, else i shouldn't be at work otherwise) ;)09:24
hyperairhaha09:25
seb128hello chrisccoulson09:33
chrisccoulsonhi seb12809:33
chrisccoulsononly 1 day left for you now ;)09:34
seb128one 1 work day before vac yes09:34
seb128not only one day left ;-)09:34
chrisccoulsonyeah, only one day left would be quite bad actually;)09:35
seb128chrisccoulson, good job on the g-s-d bug09:37
seb128that confirms what the warning were suggesting09:37
chrisccoulsonseb128 - no problem. i'll try and look at some more of those crashes over the weekend09:37
chrisccoulsonit probably should be reassigned to libxklavier really, but i'll let upstream decide if they can fix it in g-s-d first09:38
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i'll take the g-s-d 2.27.90 update if you like ;)11:00
seb128chrisccoulson, will you manage to do it today?11:00
seb128chrisccoulson, I would like to get it uploaded before my holidays11:00
chrisccoulsonseb128 - what time will you finish today?11:01
seb128not sure, but I will probably do a round of uploads after dinner tonight11:01
chrisccoulsonthat should be ok then. i finish work here about 2pm, and then i'll get a chance to do it this afternoon if you like11:01
chrisccoulsonhopefully before your dinner;)11:02
seb128ok, let's do that11:02
chrisccoulsoncool11:02
seb128there is no hurry in any case, I might do some sponsoring during free slots this weekend too11:02
chrisccoulsonheh, you should have a proper rest really;)11:02
seb128but I will try to not be working much during my vac11:02
seb128yeah11:03
chrisccoulsonyeah, definately not11:03
seb128I will probably not be on IRC or read bugs11:03
chrisccoulsoni switch off from work as soon as i leave the door of the office. i don't give it a thought all weekend ;)11:03
seb128but I might read private emails and look at pending updates every now and then next week11:03
seb128ie while pitti is still not back11:03
seb128the week after that I will be away11:03
chrisccoulsonyeah. it's gonne be quiet here next week11:04
chrisccoulsonseb128 - is the plan to ship both versions of policykit on the CD currently?11:20
seb128chrisccoulson, I don't think it's a plan rather a sideeffect of not having everything ported11:20
chrisccoulsongconf-editor has a patch upstream, it seems. so that would be one more down11:21
seb128why?11:21
chrisccoulsoni just wondered11:21
seb128would be nice to get11:21
chrisccoulsonthere's still quite a few things depending on it - eg, gnome-system-tools and system-tools-backends is probably one we'd have to port ourselves, as it doesn't get much attention upstream and fedora don't even use these11:22
james_wchrisccoulson: yeah, it's pretty much only us and Debian carrying those11:27
james_wthere was someone started cleaning up the bugs upstream recently though11:27
chrisccoulsonjames_w - yeah, g-s-t got a little bit of attention recently. but it's pretty much deprecated now, so i don't think anyone outside of ubuntu is going to put the effort in to port to the new polkit-1 api11:28
james_wI agree11:29
chrisccoulsoni think we'll have to do that ourselves :-/11:29
james_whave you looked at what porting typically requires?11:33
diverse_izzuewho is the sound guy here? i was wondering why the pulse backend of libcanberra is not installed by default, and not even in main?11:42
gclericdiverse_izzue: your question might be best answered by the audio team. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio11:48
seb128diverse_izzue, didn't you ask some days ago?12:01
seb128diverse_izzue, does it create any visible issue?12:01
seb128diverse_izzue, any to reply it's an oversight and is going to be fixed for karmic12:01
garymc Hi peeps, everytime i click on my launchers when logged in as a particular user, it loads opens it in text editor and not firefox. I want it to open in firefox? When i right click it there is no option to open with other program. When i goto /var/www/ and right click on insert.php it says open with firefox. So i pressume thats all correct. Now when I log in with another user it all works fine??? whats happening here and how12:15
garymc can i fix it12:15
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pedro_MacSlow, hello, have you seen bug 344385 ? it missed the milestone for jaunty and it's still an issue, can reproduce it everytime i connect to the wireless AP14:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 344385 in notify-osd "Brightness notification works only with Human Icons " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34438514:33
MacSlowpedro_, that's an icon-theme (or packaging if you will) issue and not related to notify-osd itself14:35
davmor2Guys I noticed something funky with gwibber.  I'm not sure though if it is actually gwibber or the notification applet that it causing it is there a way to find out?  this is what happen if I minimise gwibber for a bit http://www.davmor2.co.uk/gwibber.png14:41
dobeydavmor2: you mean empathy? i don't see gwibber in that screenshot15:08
davmor2dobey: no the long list of name on the right come from gwibber being the only app in the notification applet15:10
davmor2but only when gwibber is minimised into it15:10
davmor2dobey: right at the very bottom of the 260+ names is the name gwibber microbloggin client or something similar15:12
dobeyhuh, that doesn't seem right15:12
davmor2dobey: I don't know any of the names either, which makes me believe that it must be the public tab on gwibber that is causing it15:13
chrisccoulsonseb128 - just doing the g-s-d update now, so you should have it this afternoon15:15
chrisccoulsonnot much has changed actually - most of the changes are already in our version ;)15:15
dobeydavmor2: i guess it's flooding with public notices15:16
davmor2dobey: and that brings me back to is it a bug in the notification applet or gwibber or the integration of the one in the other15:18
dobeysounds like a bug in whatever code in gwibber is sending that stuff to the indicator applet15:19
chrisccoulsonseb128 - just going through some of the patches we currently carry - 11_sleepkey.patch changes the sleep command to "gdm-signal -s". do we need this? (gdm-signal isn't installed anyway)15:19
MDC1will karmic + 1 use package kit instead of updatemanager + synaptic + add remove apps?15:24
mac_vMDC1: Appcenter15:26
MDC1mac_v, got any link about it?15:27
MDC1mac_v, is that something new or will it be based on package kit?15:27
mac_vMDC1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter , will be in Karmic  , but fully replace all in Karmic+1 , it uses policy kit15:28
mptmac_v, in your bug response template, could you change "Unfortunately a paper cut" to "However, a paper cut"?15:28
MDC1mac_v, ok thanks15:28
mac_vmpt: hehe... that was not my template , ;)15:28
mptmac_v, I know :-)15:29
mptI don't know where it's written down, but if it's on a wiki somewhere, then greta15:29
mptgreat, even15:29
mac_vMDC1: mpt is working on on appcenter , you an ask him any doubts15:29
mpt(My apologies to any Gretas in the audience)15:29
mptMDC1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter15:29
MDC1reading now :-) seems like a good thing15:30
mac_vmpt: i dont think it is in the wiki, the initial one was given to me by the team , then i just kept adding more lines [Dont worry though..., for more info...]15:31
mac_vmpt:  should i add it to the wiki?15:31
seb128chrisccoulson, I guess not15:32
davmor2dobey: thanks15:33
rodrigo_seb128: you uploaded the tomboy package with my patch, right?15:33
seb128rodrigo_, yes15:33
seb128rodrigo_, do you have upstream bug reference?15:33
rodrigo_seb128: cool, thanks!15:33
seb128or a mailing list topic?15:33
mptmac_v, that's probably a good idea (don't know where it would go, though)15:33
rodrigo_seb128: no, only been talking with tomboy developers on irc15:34
seb128ok15:34
MDC1mpt, what I've always wanted is the ability to click a link in the browser (like apt:// ) but it should also add the repository. Couldn't find anything about that in the wiki - will that feature be available?15:37
mac_vmpt: here? >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses   , the template i use> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253184/ < any changes or should i add it?15:37
mptmac_v, that looks like a good place15:38
mac_vMDC1: any idea you come up with add them to the comments page15:38
MDC1mac_v, will do15:38
mptmac_v, "I'm afraid" could become "So" (you're not really afraid;-), but otherwise that looks good15:38
mptMDC1, not for 1.0. We need to figure out a way of calculating and conveying trust for repositories.15:39
mac_vmpt: actually i *am* ;) ,sometimes people are so angry that their idea was invalidated,i got a couple of mails sent personally to me ! but that wasnt my wording either ,15:41
chrisccoulsonseb128 - thanks. i will remove that patch then. there is no key designated for sleep by default anyway, as that is handled elsewhere15:41
MDC1mpt, i understand - good to here you're thinking about it :)15:41
mac_vseb128: hi... would  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses be the right place for a papercut response template  , or ?15:47
aweasac: you around today?  thought you were doing a swap day?15:50
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chrisccoulsonseb128 - g-s-d update is done now17:05
seb128chrisccoulson, thanks17:05
hggdhbug 413660 may be an issue right now17:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 413660 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41366017:39
asacawe: yeah just in quickly. did you work on the LOCAL_BRANCH stuff yet? otherwise dont do it as i did the same code for other branches now ;)18:02
asacand can just copy it over18:02
asaclet me know ... out again18:03
aweasac: no, haven't touched the LOCAL_BRANCH stuff.  I have updated to the latest git snapshots & was going to push my bzr branches and maybe dput to the trunk PPA18:07
aweasac: also removed dbus-event files as discussed18:07
aweasac: right now debugging why managed/unmanaged is broken18:07
chrisccoulsonhggdh - thanks18:10
chrisccoulsonseb128 - do you want to upload a fix for bug 413660 before you finish for the day?18:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 413660 in brasero "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41366018:11
chrisccoulsonit looks trivial for me to fix and it might create quite a few duplicates ;)18:11
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chrisccoulsonhey seb128 - did you have a nice dinner?21:22
seb128chrisccoulson, hello, yes21:22
seb128but I'm just passing quickly21:23
seb128I've upload your g-s-d update21:23
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks. i hope you enjoy your time off anyway21:23
chrisccoulsonand enjoy drinking cocktails for 2 weeks ;)21:23
seb128thanks!21:24
chrisccoulsonseb128 - this brasero crasher is fixed upstream now21:28
chrisccoulsonit only seems to be triggered for people who upgraded from jaunty though, with stale CD entries in their fstab21:29
chrisccoulsoni wonder if it's possible to clean those on upgrade :-/21:29
seb128could question for #ubuntu-devel I guess21:29
seb128cjwatson probably knows21:30
seb128can you ping slangasek to see if he's still wanting to do sponsoring?21:30
chrisccoulsonseb128 - can do. do you think we should get the brasero change in now rather than wait for a new tarball?21:30
seb128I just have IRC to this box I was not planned to do other updates today21:30
seb128no tarball next week and most users upgrades21:31
seb128would be nice to get it fixed21:31
chrisccoulsoncool. i'm just building now and then will push to bzr21:31
MDC1hmm.. can anyone running karmic confirm an issue with metacity; open a random window (not maximized) and then single click the title and then release, does your window move down 1px?22:17
AmpelbeinMDC1: can't confirm with unfree nvidia driver22:22
MDC1Ampelbein, ok, maybe its virtualbox then.. thanks22:25
chrisccoulsoni can't confirm that either22:25
chrisccoulson(in vmware though)22:25
chrisccoulsonMDC1 - are you sure your mouse isn't broken ;)22:26
MDC1chrisccoulson, hehee..22:26
MDC1works in jaunty (real desktop)22:27
chrisccoulsonit must be a bug in jaunty + a broken mouse then. that would be the obvious explanation ;)22:28
chrisccoulsonlol22:28
chrisccoulsonyou've not tried karmic live CD on real hardware have you?22:28
chrisccoulsondoes it happen there too?22:28
MDC1has there been an agreement on how recent files inte filemenu should appear (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590661) - I'm thinking of patching eog as it too seems to have no icons in recent and the open with menu...22:29
ubottuGnome bug 590661 in general ""File" menu should show the icon of each recent document (regardless of menus_have_icons)" [Normal,Unconfirmed]22:29
MDC1chrisccoulson, no, havent tried live cd.. but i did mess with metacity yesterday so it could be that.. but i thought i reinstalled the metacity package...22:29

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