[00:00] http://hg.mozilla.org/pyxpcom/ [00:05] fta: i think the idea would be to make a substantial amount of patches. try to upstream them and if unresponsive make "cdbs2" project ;) [00:05] or cdbsng [00:07] asac: i am back [00:07] asac: did i miss something? [00:07] no [00:07] actually i dont know [00:07] just came back a few minuites ago ;) [00:07] asac: the feature to use the first binary package name by default for MOZ_XPI_PACKAGE_NAME is already in version 0.14 [00:07] bdrung: ;) [00:07] well done [00:08] asac: i was the complete day away [00:08] thats good ;) [00:08] i mean really ;) [00:08] tomorrow i will be away i hope [00:08] asac: now i have to read 58 mails :) [00:09] thats still managable [00:09] :-P [00:10] asac: when i am off the mail flood is lower :) [00:10] hehe [00:11] asac, it seems we have our own branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/karmic/cdbs/karmic [00:11] what is the "ubuntu-branches" team? [00:11] never heart of it [00:12] yeah. so start developing [00:12] also we should commit the change we had in firefox i think [00:13] oh, will there be a TB 2.0.0.23 anytime soon asac? [00:13] yes [00:13] i need to uploade it to -security ppa now that you say that [00:13] last release for FF 3.0.13, I couldn't d/l from security ppa for about 13 hours after it was built [00:13] really? [00:13] yeah [00:13] idk why [00:14] probably a publishing bug i guess [00:14] ok [00:14] I'll bug the LP admins if it happens again [00:14] hmm. armel build queue doesnt look good [00:14] i guess i should get that up asap [00:14] yeah ... do that [00:15] ok, enjoy your day off if I don't mention it later asac [00:15] hehe. yeah. [00:15] feels like i will upload tbird tomorrow :/ [00:16] but thats ok. own fault. forgot completely even though getting mails about that for a while [00:16] I saw it yesterday on the Mozilla Planet blog [00:20] htheeh [00:20] thanks for the ping [00:20] lolol [00:20] oh you are there ;) [00:20] here [00:20] I am [00:20] i would have replied here then ;) [00:20] im everywhjere [00:20] np [00:20] I was going to ask you something [00:20] about 3g? ;) [00:20] but my brain already shutdown [00:20] no idea :( [00:20] thats good [00:21] rest is good for you and me ;) [00:21] fyi 3G is a bit unstable [00:21] when I downgraded it fixed [00:21] but won't work after hiberna [00:21] downgraded NM? [00:21] yep [00:22] now with all upgrade I guess I upgraded again [00:22] yeah hibernate could be mm ... but also linux more likely [00:22] asac another guy with the same MM bug as me https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/412570 [00:22] Launchpad bug 412570 in modemmanager "modemmanger does not connect to 3G network, icon keeps spinning. " [High,New] [00:22] got that on identica [00:22] guess that what I have too [00:22] ahhh now I recall [00:23] loved htat paux de faul joke you did with multisearch addon [00:23] you see the same problem? [00:23] damn you must have been mad [00:23] with all that ppl poking at you and saying nasty stuff [00:23] which one? ;) [00:23] asac I see. it keeps spining [00:24] * BUGabundo is too sleepy to keep two conversations [00:24] back to MM [00:24] asac I see. it keeps spining [00:24] seems very similar to what the bug describes [00:24] nothing even remotely useful in the logs [00:25] BUGabundo: you need to run modemmanager with --debug [00:25] yeah [00:25] will do next time I plug the dongle [00:25] better ask that on the bug too [00:26] * BUGabundo is toooo sleepy to read http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2008/Apr/0250.html but its nice to see how lame ISPs and Manufactures are [00:26] (driver: 'option1') [00:26] Default key algorithm in Thomson [00:26] llololol [00:27] asac that bug already has debug log [00:27] is it useful? [00:27] i think so ... yes. [00:28] ok [00:28] asac, are your nm branches ready? [00:28] then no need for me to debug it [00:28] :) [00:29] fta: not for LOCAL_BRANCH [00:30] besides from that i would think so. [00:30] they produce good orig.tar.gz on get-orig-source [00:30] BUGabundo: if its exactly your issue then yet [00:30] yes [00:30] BUGabundo: you sure you have novatel? [00:30] guess so [00:30] by the description and symptoms [00:30] novatel?? [00:31] what's that? [00:31] well... the description and symptoms dont really matter [00:31] its the log that must match [00:31] ok [00:31] e.g. fail at the same point after the same series of commands [00:31] ill get mine now [00:31] just a sec [00:31] back [00:31] dongle in hand [00:31] what you need? [00:31] asac, once everything is there, give me the branch urls, and where i should push (i need perms) - in an email [00:31] I'm on wifi, so what ever we do that may affect that , let me know ahead [00:32] fta: yes. i would think monday [00:32] thx [00:32] asac: where do you want me to start? [00:32] BUGabundo: wifi can interfere. but as long as you have a good thing thats ok [00:32] good connection [00:32] nm stop, [00:33] mm --debug? [00:33] BUGabundo: yes. then sudo killall modem-manager; modem-manager --debug 2>&1 > /tmp/mm.log.txt [00:33] err [00:33] BUGabundo: yes. then sudo killall modem-manager; sudo modem-manager --debug 2>&1 > /tmp/mm.log.txt [00:33] before or after pluging the dongle? [00:34] BUGabundo: dont plug it in [00:34] then do that [00:34] ok [00:34] then plug in ;) === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [00:38] back [00:38] !ping [00:38] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [00:38] !ping [00:38] back [00:38] asac http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/mm.log.txt [00:39] ack [00:39] asac it is as if it connects [00:39] so different plugin -> different bug ;) [00:39] starts with red lead (3G) then falls to GPRS [00:40] transfer speed stays at 0 [00:40] diff bug, but exactly same behaviour [00:40] lets see how long until a triagger dupe them [00:40] ahah [00:40] filling now [00:40] BUGabundo: please add [huawei] to the title [00:41] and [novatel] in front of the other [00:41] Package modem-manager does not exist [00:41] grrrr [00:41] BUGabundo: also please downgrade and do the same and attach the log from the successful attempt ;) [00:41] $ ubuntu-bug modemmanager [00:41] that probably makes it trivial [00:42] [] added to both bugs [00:44] downgrading now [00:45] asac will I have to reboot ????? [00:45] BUGabundo: no. [00:45] ok [00:45] at least i hope so [00:45] stop NM kill mm and start with --debug ... then start nm [00:48] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/413333 [00:48] Launchpad bug 413333 in modemmanager "[huawei] MM wont connect, keeps nm.applet spinning" [Undecided,New] [00:48] killing NM now [00:48] brb === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [00:51] !ping [00:52] !ping [00:52] dsdfdsbgsgbdb [00:52] !ping [00:52] !ping [00:52] is this thing on??? [00:53] !ping [00:54] BUGabundo: yes, it is [00:54] oh ok [00:54] why aint the bot replying ?? [00:54] asac https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/413333 [00:54] Launchpad bug 413333 in modemmanager "[huawei] MM wont connect, keeps nm.applet spinning" [Undecided,New] [00:54] updated with new log [00:54] take a look please [00:55] k [00:56] asac also I still get hitted by that very annoying bug where the 1st connect doesn't work [00:56] and re-connecting just disconects [00:56] that should be visible in those logs [00:58] ** (modem-manager:27265): DEBUG: (ttyUSB1): probe requested by plugin 'Generic' [00:58] ** (modem-manager:27265): DEBUG: (ttyUSB1): --> 'AT+GCAP' [00:58] ** (modem-manager:27265): DEBUG: (ttyUSB1): <-- 'AT+GCAP+GCAP: +CGSM,+DS,+ESOK' [00:58] that's tells me nothing [00:58] I can only read 10 [00:58] :D [00:58] its different ;) [01:01] seems like the successful one tries to use manual CREG [01:01] and the unsuccessful one uses unsolicited CREG [01:02] ok [01:02] that affects many many users [01:02] who don't understand why they are "connected" but don't have net [01:02] I noticed it clearly [01:02] because I have an applet [01:02] netspeed [01:03] and since it stays at zero, I immediately reconnect [01:04] asac if you don't need anything else [01:04] I'm going to bed [01:05] im up in 6 h [01:07] well. [01:08] many many users is exaggeration [01:08] its karmic [01:08] we have to flash things out [01:08] it claims your port as a secondary por [01:08] t [01:08] ehehe [01:08] thats wrong [01:08] and fixing that will fix it i guess ,) [01:08] I didn't say that bug was karmic only [01:08] I see it too on jaunty [01:08] ill request a couple of logs [01:09] bed [02:02] Jazzva: thanks for the man pages. -devscripts is now lintian clean. :) [02:03] bdrung_: no problem :) [02:05] Jazzva: but why didn't you use utf-8 for your name in the man page? [02:05] Jazzva: btw, you can wrap long lines. [02:06] bdrung_: I figured it autowraps, and just left them as they are (though it's cleaner if I wrap them...) [02:07] bdrung_: as for the utf-8... I have no idea... I think I just started without š and ž, and then I was lazy to change :). [02:07] Jazzva: :) [02:08] good night [02:09] good night [02:09] i'm off too [02:11] bdrung_, you should not have touched changelog, some tools use diffs to show new revs, you broke them [02:12] fta: which tools? [02:20] fta: whats broken? [02:20] +if [02:21] fta: what context i mean? [02:21] fta: you mean the cleanup of previous changelog? [02:21] yes [02:21] it's like rewriting history [02:22] fta: well. its just line wraps ;) [02:22] i didnt even know that mozilla-devscripts is maintained by a bot [02:23] otherwise i would have been more careful [02:25] fta: what tool is broken now? [02:35] ok off for today. === mac__v is now known as mac_v [07:00] hi team. [07:00] I was hoping to confirm that Ubuntu removes mozillas proprietary crash reporting module [07:01] from Thunderbird. === ripps_ is now known as ripps === jtv is now known as jtv-eat === ejat is now known as e-jat === jtv-eat is now known as jtv [11:28] Kamping_Kaiser: we dont remove it ... we have it disabled [11:30] asac: so (aiui) its in the source tarball, but not included in the binaries? [11:31] Kamping_Kaiser: we strip binaries out of tarball. also we strip non-free stuff that we are aware off [11:31] checkout our tarball and if you see something that is not free let us know+ [11:32] vi ./toolkit/crashreporter/google-breakpad/COPYING [11:32] -> thats a free license [11:32] i dont think its proprietary afaik [11:32] at least not the client side [11:33] asac: thanks. that was my understanding of what happened, but I thought before I close the bug in question I should double check. [11:34] Kamping_Kaiser: yeah. if the user has specific files in mind we should check that [11:35] asac: None that I'm aware of. If some come to light, I'll get it investigated. thanks for your help [11:39] if user is just ranting. close the bug [15:20] asac, reed is "on indefinite leave from the Mozilla project" ? [16:11] fta: hmm. how do you know? [16:11] fta: i think he has some study things still going on [16:12] in bugzilla [16:12] hmm. i think he would probably even mark a leave of 3 weeks like that ;) [16:15] maybe we should send him a mail ;) [16:18] asac, he subscribed us to mozilla 510358 yesterday [16:18] Mozilla bug 510358 in Socorro "Accept crashes from Fedora distro Thunderbird builds" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510358 [16:18] yay [16:18] that's how i found out === ripps_ is now known as ripps [16:26] updated https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447771 [16:27] Mozilla bug 447771 in Tracking "allow Linux distributions to submit crash reports to crash-stats.mozilla.com" [Normal,New] [16:27] lets hope we can move forward [16:27] ok out for some pre-dinner and relaxing in sun [17:18] hi [17:18] tyn0r: Can I help you? [17:20] On ubuntu with Thunderbird 3.0b4pre install with the ppa mozilla-daily, when i install the french xpi (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1-l10n/thunderbird-3.0b4pre.fr.langpack.xpi) It doesn't change thunderbird in french ... Any ideas to make it works ? [17:20] Only add the french dictionnary ... [17:20] sorry, I don't have any experience with i18n [17:20] Maybe it's the wrong file ? [17:21] idk if the lang packs are working yet for tb3 [17:21] ok thanks ... i'm going to mail the ml ! [17:21] so why give them ? [17:21] well, they might be :) [17:21] I really don't know [17:22] tyn0r: check that "matchOS"="true" in the preferences of tbird [17:22] also ensure that LANG=fr [17:22] in your env [17:23] in the preference menu .. .? [17:23] tyn0r: in the advanced config editor search for matchOS [17:23] ok [17:23] yeah [17:23] its false [17:23] thats a packaging bug actually [17:24] set that to true [17:24] hi asac, I thought you were off :) [17:24] intl.locale.matchOS [17:24] micahg: i am ;) ... just checked if anything blew up :) [17:24] should I ask you about ff-kde blueprints or wait til monday? [17:24] so i put intl.locale.matchOS => true ? [17:24] yes [17:24] and restart th ? [17:24] could be that having that in your user config doesnt help [17:24] yes [17:25] you might need to put it in /etc/thunderbird-.3.0/pref/... [17:25] but first try to set it in your user account [17:26] tyn0r: remember that if installing a .xpi it will hide your system extensions/translations forever. so as soon as we have proper translations support for tbird, remove your .xpi again [17:26] so matchOS to true ... restart and nothing ... i had to edit something in my ~/.thunderbird-3.0 ? [17:26] no [17:27] tyn0r: you have to edit it here i guess: /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b4pre/greprefs/all.js [17:27] unfortunately that will get overriden on every update ;) [17:27] ok i'll tri [17:28] the packages are not properly hooked up [17:28] with system configs yet [17:28] tyn0r: are you sure your whole desktop is in french ` [17:28] ? [17:28] i didnt have the directory : /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b4pre/greprefs/all.js [17:28] yes [17:28] yes it's in french [17:28] you didnt have that? [17:28] ls /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b4pre/greprefs/ [17:28] all.js security-prefs.js xpinstall.js [17:29] thats what i have [17:29] you sure you have our package installed? [17:29] /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b4pre/greprefs/all.js -> thats a file not a dir [17:29] no thunderbird dir in /usr/lib ... [17:29] tyn0r: then you dont have our package [17:29] and we cannot help you ;) [17:30] install thunderbird-3.0 package [17:30] from our ppa ;) [17:30] yes install by an apt-get install thunderbird-3-gnome-support [17:30] it's done ! [17:30] 3.0 [17:30] i'llcheck [17:30] great [17:31] oups ... [17:31] sorry my term was in a ssh on my server ... [17:32] so in this file i had to change ? [17:32] the option we discussed [17:32] its already in there [17:32] just set to "false" [17:33] i had to remove the french xpi from the addon menu ? [17:33] ok [17:33] no [17:33] pref("intl.locale.matchOS", false); [17:33] yes that needs to be true [17:33] ok [17:33] Works fine ! [17:33] thanks ! [17:34] and so, when the release will came up, i had to change this to false and install the future thunderbird-3-language-fr (exemple)... [17:36] It's a quite good work that you make ! [17:36] tyn0r: no. so on every update you get this will get changed [17:36] tyn0r: back [17:36] unfortunately [17:36] we will change it in the package [17:36] thanks ... (i'll post the trick in my blog for all french thunderbird 3 users !) [17:36] just ping us if it breaks on next update [17:36] so i remember to fix it [17:36] ok [17:36] Thanks [17:36] & bye [17:36] tyn0r: well [17:37] tyn0r: if you tell that to users, please tell them that they must remove the addon when we get real translations [17:37] at some point it will break tbird badly [17:37] e.g. when tbird strings changes [17:37] yes ... because the xpi is remplace with a real package ? as in firefox !? [17:37] it might break the complete UI [17:37] ok [17:37] tyn0r: no. its just that the xpi you installed wont get auto updated [17:38] so when string changes in tbird, you dont have all strings translated [17:38] and in some situation that will bust the UI [17:38] ok [17:38] noted ! [17:38] good [17:38] thanks for your help ! [17:38] even if it doesnt break they should remove the addon as they will not get any system translations otherwise ;) [17:38] and latest for 3.1 it will break for sure :) [17:38] ok off too [17:38] no problem [17:53] jdstrand: ok requested review from fta for packaging aspects. when he is happy i am happy and you can ask anyone here to merge it in (or bug me on monday) [17:53] (on apparmor merge request) [17:57] asac: thanks [18:13] hi... is there a way to backup Firefox History ? [19:24] is there somebody who can tell me when the official bits of firefox 3.5.x will be available for ubuntu 8.04 ? [21:20] asac, Jazzva: still red.. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30320748/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.prism_1.0b2%2Bsvn20090813r49078-0ubuntu1~umd2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [21:22] fta: I'll take a quick look now [21:50] fta: are you going to branch into 3.6 and 3.7 for nightlies? [21:52] micahg, yes, i was waiting for it to start but it apparently started [21:52] *ERROR* 3.7~a1~hg20090814r31562+nobinonly doesn't match ^3\.6(\~|\.). Abort [21:53] http://blog.mozilla.com/bhearsum/archives/108 [21:54] and i need to rebranch 3.6 to Namoroka [22:00] yep :) [22:01] I just e-mailed asac about getting namarooka into karmic [22:01] RC is scheduled for end of October [22:04] which just a1? lol [22:05] fta: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Namoroka [22:05] micah sounds like it belongs in karmic+1 [22:06] i will close 1.9.2~a1 and 3.6~a1 anyway (even if it doesn't go to karmic), it's better to fork the branch at a milestone [22:07] you guys able to use code.launchpad.net ? [22:07]