| bryce | xerosis, even if it has been reported, it's usually better that you file another report | 00:14 |
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| bryce | xerosis, anyway it doesn't strike a bell with me; so it probably hasn't been reported | 00:14 |
| bryce | xerosis, 'ubuntu-bug xorg' and attach a photo of the screen | 00:15 |
| bryce | actually it's probably a linux bug, not xorg. | 00:15 |
| xerosis | bryce: thanks, I'll do that | 00:15 |
| pwnguin | should i be surprised that uinput can be used to crash X? | 05:35 |
| pwnguin | a friend is reporting wminput can crash X reliably | 05:38 |
| pwnguin | not sure whether to blame wminput for acting funny, or X for crashing because of it | 05:40 |
| pwnguin | crazy thing is, i cant duplicate i | 05:50 |
| pwnguin | t | 05:50 |
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| bryce | pwnguin, collect a full backtrace, file a bug. X should not be crashable by any client app | 08:53 |
| Ng | [09:30] < hughsie> if anyone was wondering about how to fix gnome-power-manager blanking the screen when the session is not idle, then I've posted a fix here: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/14/blanking-in-gnome-power-manager-fixed/ | 09:37 |
| Ng | I believe karmic people are seeing this. I certainly am ;) | 09:38 |
| diverse_izzue | Ng, awesome, many people on Karmic see this! | 09:44 |
| tseliot | it's definitely worth backporting | 09:45 |
| bryce | yeah on my todo list | 09:45 |
| bryce | would have done it yesterday but we were frozen; didn't do it today just because I got distracted by other matters. | 09:46 |
| seb128 | so it was an xorg bug ;-) | 09:49 |
| Ng | \o/ | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | the random blanking didn't matter too much, but if it allows the display to sleep when it should, then I'm happy :) | 09:57 |
| seb128 | right, it's rather disturbing that a real issue | 09:57 |
| seb128 | at least it doesn't break anything | 09:57 |
| tjaalton | sounds like it's not the same issu | 09:58 |
| tjaalton | +e | 09:58 |
| tjaalton | in karmic my display(s) never blank or go to sleep when they should | 09:58 |
| bryce | seb128, shut it | 09:58 |
| tjaalton | :) | 09:59 |
| seb128 | what? | 09:59 |
| bryce | actually, the patch Ng points to is different from the one I was looking at that someone else pointed to | 10:00 |
| seb128 | was that I request for me to stop writing there? | 10:00 |
| bryce | seb128, ah, yeah that'd do ;-) ;-) | 10:01 |
| Ng | tjaalton: random blanking seems to also include random suspending, which is really quite annoying :) | 10:01 |
| * seb128 confused | 10:01 | |
| bryce | actually I never was sure whether this was an xorg bug or not; I'd upstreamed it to -ati but they claimed it was a ubuntu problem, so they were wrong | 10:01 |
| bryce | Ng, wonder how many bugs this'll close | 10:02 |
| Ng | yeah, could be interesting | 10:02 |
| hyperair | random suspending? | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | seb left :P | 10:03 |
| hyperair | i haven't noticed that one. though random blanking does happen | 10:03 |
| Ng | hyperair: I would assume that if idle timeouts are confused all kinds of random idle-related power events could happen | 10:09 |
| hyperair | Ng: i suppose. that would suck, though | 11:30 |
| Ng | hyperair: I get quite angry when it happens ;) | 11:43 |
| Ng | then I remind myself that I'm running a development release, and look at something shiny that I didn't have in jaunty, and smile again ;) | 11:43 |
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| hyperair | Ng: haha. i don't get angry if errors are easily recoverable. | 13:29 |
| hyperair | Ng: like i don't get annoyed over compiz refusing to redraw when i return from hibernation/suspension | 13:30 |
| Ng | hyperair: I'm usually working when it happens, and all my work is over ssh ;) | 13:30 |
| hyperair | Ng: what i do get annoyed about is stuff like the GEM memory leak. but that's in the past | 13:30 |
| Ng | hyperair: (but I know I can't blame anyone for a development distro breaking my work, and I have no desire to) | 13:30 |
| hyperair | hahah | 13:30 |
| * hyperair began running karmic because jaunty was very annoying with the whole intel mess | 13:31 | |
| * hyperair brb new kernel | 13:32 | |
| tjaalton | I don't understand why icons were removed from gtk menus | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | quite useful for the firefox bookmark-menu for instance.. | 13:34 |
| tjaalton | _that_ makes me upset, not some random crash :) | 13:34 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, the bookmarks not having icons is a firefox bug | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ok, good to hear :) | 13:35 |
| seb128 | they is a property to set to always have an icon | 13:35 |
| seb128 | objects should set this one | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ie drives, bookmarks, files, directories, etc | 13:35 |
| tjaalton | hmm, I see icons on my laptop again | 13:36 |
| seb128 | you can also turn icons back using a gconf key | 13:36 |
| tjaalton | maybe it's ff 3.5 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | the rational was that icons were overused | 13:36 |
| tjaalton | sure | 13:36 |
| tjaalton | there are places where I got so used to them that they help me navigate to the correct entry | 13:37 |
| tjaalton | it's faster to recognize the icon than to read the text :) | 13:37 |
| seb128 | right same here | 13:37 |
| seb128 | bug #407621 | 13:37 |
| tjaalton | but I'll wait and see what comes next | 13:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 407621 in libgnome "(design decision) Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407621 | 13:37 |
| seb128 | comment there | 13:37 |
| tjaalton | thanks, I'll subscribe for now | 13:37 |
| Ng | I hope the always_show icon property will lead to smarter use of icons, and not just flood them back by people setting it everywhere ;) | 13:42 |
| Ng | I always thought the stock icons were a good idea though | 13:42 |
| Ng | it strongly hints that something is going to do what you expect | 13:43 |
| seb128 | right, it reboot in fusa is clear | 13:45 |
| seb128 | the no icon force you to read text | 13:45 |
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