| lex79 | eheh :> | 00:00 |
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| a|wen | shtylman: yes! you need to test your own dog-food (and as you are working on the installer, then...) :P | 00:01 |
| * a|wen was very impressed by the installer at alpha 3 stage | 00:03 | |
| Quintasan | yay for borked ext4 in jaunty once again | 00:04 |
| a|wen | Quintasan: why not just upgrade to karmic | 00:05 |
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| Quintasan | a|wen: fglrx | 00:05 |
| Quintasan | a|wen: radeon is too slow, radeonhd has no support for Direct rendering and fglrx fails to build kernel module | 00:06 |
| a|wen | Quintasan: which gfx-card? | 00:06 |
| Quintasan | a|wen: Radeon HD3450 | 00:06 |
| shtylman | a|wen: but I have run through that installer like a bazillion times :) ... doing it for real just seems...too surreal ... | 00:08 |
| a|wen | he :) | 00:10 |
| a|wen | Quintasan: just stick to old hardware like me | 00:14 |
| Quintasan | a|wen: I had Radeon 9550 but it was a pain in the ass :( | 00:14 |
| a|wen | radeon 9600 on my desktop ... X300 mobile on the laptop | 00:15 |
| a|wen | Quintasan: style-crystal uploaded | 00:18 |
| Quintasan | thanks | 00:18 |
| a|wen | won't get to the other one this WE | 00:19 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you pinged? | 00:45 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: yeah, could you check update to aurorae? I uploaded it to REVU since a|wen mentioned it's a pain in the ass to get files from LP bugs | 00:46 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: URL? | 00:48 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kwin-style-aurorae | 00:49 |
| Riddell | get hot new stuff for aurorae doesn't work, the get new stuff window is always below the kwin configure window | 00:59 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: can you give me a screenshot of this? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/aurorae.png | 01:09 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: package uploaded | 01:09 |
| Quintasan | thanks | 01:09 |
| shtylman | Riddell: want me to go ahead and put the keyboard display into the installer to let people try it out? | 01:12 |
| shtylman | well before the next alpha... | 01:12 |
| Riddell | shtylman: ooh you have it? | 01:14 |
| Riddell | shtylman: why the doubts? | 01:14 |
| shtylman | yea...ive had it for a while... well..there are some concerns that because it only displays a standard keyboard layout | 01:14 |
| shtylman | people might be confused | 01:14 |
| shtylman | if they have non standard layout of keys | 01:15 |
| shtylman | (like evand gave the example that he has an extra key between his 'z' key and shift | 01:15 |
| shtylman | I personally think that people are aware enough of what a *standard* keyboard layout is that seeing the keyboard will actually be of greater help | 01:15 |
| shtylman | and better feedback | 01:16 |
| shtylman | the problem is that I can only change the text displayed on the keys when they change their keyboard layout/variant... I cannot, as it would be impossible basically to detect, rearrange the keys to match their actual setup | 01:16 |
| shtylman | Riddell: lp:~shtylman/+junk/keyboard ... and run keys.py to the see first working example | 01:19 |
| shtylman | I got the basic idea down for what I wanted...just need to see how to handle languages it can't find and whatnot... | 01:20 |
| Riddell | so that's what an Afghani keyboard looks like | 01:21 |
| Riddell | where does it get the data from? | 01:21 |
| shtylman | asks the system for the unicode character for a particular keycode | 01:22 |
| shtylman | lines 19 and 20 of keys.py | 01:22 |
| Riddell | looks good, go for it I say | 01:22 |
| shtylman | it basically gets a C header file from that command and parses it for the key info | 01:23 |
| shtylman | not the prettiest solution..but it was what I had | 01:23 |
| shtylman | alrighty...I will start migrating that in then | 01:23 |
| shtylman | the real trick I want to figure out is showing the shifted keys without the user doing anything | 01:26 |
| shtylman | that would basically just finalize it for me :) | 01:26 |
| Gon | hi, I have a problem compiling konversation. Source code depends of kdepim headers, but kdepim-dev depends of kde-4.2.4 libraries, and I have kde 4.3 :s | 01:37 |
| Gon | any suggestions? | 01:42 |
| Gon | I'm in Jaunty | 01:42 |
| Riddell | Gon: it complains at me about kdepim-dev: Depends: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) but it is not installable | 01:47 |
| Riddell | is that what you get? | 01:47 |
| Gon | kdepim-runtime: Entra en conflicto: akonadi-kde (< 4:4.2.95) pero se va a instalar 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. | 02:13 |
| Gon | kdepimlibs5-dev: Depende: kdepimlibs5 (= 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1) pero está instalado 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1. | 02:13 |
| Gon | an many more... | 02:13 |
| Gon | I'm going to paste in a pastebin | 02:14 |
| Riddell | Gon: apt-cache policy kdepimlibs5-dev | 02:14 |
| Gon | http://gon.pastebin.com/m31b5b38 | 02:15 |
| Gon | http://gon.pastebin.com/m5ceb52da | 02:15 |
| Riddell | Gon: you don't have 4.3 available to install | 02:17 |
| Riddell | you must have disabled it | 02:17 |
| Gon | ? | 02:18 |
| Gon | Sysinfo for 'acer': Linux 2.6.31-999-generic running KDE 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0), CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)CPU550@2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (4000 bogomips), HD: 72/109GB, RAM: 1949/2004MB, 148 proc's, 2.3h up | 02:18 |
| Gon | only kdepim libs are broken :s | 02:18 |
| Riddell | Gon: well I uploaded a fix but your main problem is that you don't have kubuntu ppa backports enabled | 02:33 |
| Sir-Gon | Riddell: ! sorry, | 02:36 |
| Sir-Gon | sorry, it's true, I did not realize I had moved my kubuntu-ppa.list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 02:36 |
| Sir-Gon | :$ | 02:36 |
| Sir-Gon | Riddell: ! | 02:50 |
| Sir-Gon | I have enabled kubuntu ppa backports now | 02:50 |
| Sir-Gon | and... | 02:50 |
| Sir-Gon | No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: | 02:50 |
| Sir-Gon | kdepim-dev: Depende: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) que es un paquete virtual. | 02:50 |
| lex79 | Sir-Gon: wait...he uploaded kdepim right now, is still building, you can see here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports when it is finished | 02:55 |
| Sir-Gon | aaaaaah ok :D | 03:05 |
| Sir-Gon | thanks | 03:05 |
| lex79 | :) | 03:08 |
| maco | hey Riddell | 03:14 |
| maco | i just hit a question that i cant answer because im not sure how apt-get upgrade works. if you install a package with dpkg -i and it is available in a repository, will it get updates? or will apt only update things that it has installed itself? i *think* the former, but im not sure.. | 03:15 |
| lex79 | maco: apt can upgrade the packages which you installed with dpkg -i, there are not problems :) | 03:23 |
| maco | lex79: thanks | 03:24 |
| lex79 | you're welcome | 03:24 |
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| ScottK | maco: apt is a front end for dpkg which is a front end for dselect. | 03:52 |
| ScottK | So dpkg installs it regardless of if you call dpkg directly or not. | 03:52 |
| maco | i know dpkg installs it | 03:55 |
| maco | i meant does apt only know to upgrade things that apt has installed | 03:55 |
| maco | i know aptitude maintains its own db separate from dpkg's, so i didnt know if that had an effect | 03:55 |
| ScottK | Right. That's one of the reasons I don't use aptitude. It doesn't use the package cache the rest of the system uses. | 03:57 |
| ScottK | Apt and dpkg use the same mechanisms to track package status. | 03:57 |
| Sir-Gon | Riddell, lex79 | 04:02 |
| Sir-Gon | thanks!!!!! | 04:02 |
| Sir-Gon | i'm updating now | 04:02 |
| Sir-Gon | =D | 04:02 |
| Sir-Gon | finally | 04:37 |
| * Sir-Gon building konversation from svn :D | 04:37 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: googlefight.com is another site that works in Firefox, but not Arora. | 05:10 |
| ulaas | org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.InvalidMountOption : The option 'locale=en_US.UTF-8' is not allowed for uid=1000 | 06:38 |
| ulaas | should this go to launchpad? | 06:39 |
| Lure | Riddell, ScottK: akonadi-googledata is waiting in NEW queue for somebody to kick it over | 08:01 |
| ScottK | ulaas: Sure. | 08:24 |
| ulaas | ScottK: ok! installing / launching and adding that this disk with ntfs-config makes it work. does this make a difference? | 08:25 |
| ScottK | Please put it in the bug, | 08:26 |
| ulaas | ok | 08:26 |
| ulaas | ScottK: sorry to bug you all the time but i know that it is hal related. but it is seen on dolphin. so hal? or dolphin? | 08:28 |
| tsimpson | ulaas: report for dolphin, if it's a hal issue we'll move it to hal for you | 08:29 |
| ulaas | tsimpson: allrighty.. | 08:30 |
| tsimpson | always assume the bug is at the highest level (unless you know better), then work your way down | 08:31 |
| ulaas | the only think that i know "better" is that i know nothing. socrates... | 08:32 |
| tsimpson | for every rule, there is an exception. rules without an exception, are the exception to this rule. me :) | 08:34 |
| ulaas | :) | 08:35 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: Thanks for frescobaldi | 16:43 |
| Riddell | it had such a cool name I couldn't ignore it | 16:43 |
| Tm_T | moi juissi | 16:44 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: hehe :) Are you watching the "ICF Canoe Sprint World Championships" today? | 16:45 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: no, where's that happening? | 16:45 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Dartmouth / Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada | 16:46 |
| Riddell | any Scots winning? | 16:48 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: No clue, but you can watch it at http://www.canoeicf.com/default.asp?Page=2524 since I'm guessing it won't be broadcast in the UK | 16:49 |
| ScottK | My first thought was that I'm not competing, then I noticed the insufficiency of t's. | 16:49 |
| nixternal | WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO CHANGE THE CHOQOK ICON TO A GREEN COLOR!?!?!?!? | 17:16 |
| nixternal | anyways, thanks! I love it, I can tell the difference between it and kopete now :) | 17:16 |
| * ScottK notes Debian Bug#541691 to koffice lovers and suggests go help. | 18:29 | |
| ScottK | Debian Bug #541691 even | 18:29 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 541691 in wnpp "RFH: koffice -- KDE Office Suite" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/541691 | 18:29 |
| Riddell | mm, I've entirely forgotten to do koffice 2.0.2 | 18:31 |
| lex79 | Riddell: I update koffice in bzr few days ago, but now I'm merging with experimental | 18:51 |
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| Riddell | lex79: great, let me know when it's ready to upload | 19:08 |
| lex79 | ok | 19:08 |
| ulaas | current knetworkmanger is a no go with wpa.. | 19:13 |
| ulaas | is that correct? | 19:13 |
| Riddell | ulaas: it should work with wpa | 19:18 |
| ulaas | Riddell: lemme check my ap for a sec. just to be sure.. | 19:19 |
| ulaas | Riddell: ok. my kubuntu karmic is a fresh 64 install early today.. had no luck with my AP set to wpa. | 19:21 |
| ulaas | using wicd atm | 19:21 |
| ulaas | Riddell: i also have a cable connection handy! and my wicd debs downloaded already. if you want me to test anything.. ican.. | 19:24 |
| ryanakca | Can someone try to apt-get install mono-2.0-gac and see if they get a "Size mismatch" error ? | 19:25 |
| rgreening | ulaas: you need the updates from after Alpha4 for the fix | 19:25 |
| ulaas | rgreening: i am always bleeding edge. if you are not tailking about a specific PPA | 19:26 |
| rgreening | ulaas: you have it all updated to latest updates? | 19:26 |
| rgreening | no PPA required | 19:26 |
| ulaas | rgreening: so no luck. i am fully updated.. | 19:28 |
| rgreening | ulaas: strange. Try deleting the AP and kill knetworkmanager and restart it. Reconfigure the AP from scratch again. | 19:29 |
| rgreening | ulaas: I had to do this to get mine to pick up the first time. | 19:29 |
| ulaas | rgreening: give me the package name.. to make good test .as there are plasma--this networkmanager-that - blah blah everywhere | 19:30 |
| rgreening | killall knetworkmanager (as above) | 19:30 |
| ulaas | lemme apt*get | 19:31 |
| rgreening | no | 19:31 |
| rgreening | don't you already have knetworkmanager running in system tray? | 19:31 |
| ulaas | no i have wicd up. remember knetworkm.. does not work for me... | 19:31 |
| rgreening | If it's not in the system tray, then you are using the old plasmoid, which does not work. | 19:31 |
| rgreening | oh | 19:32 |
| rgreening | 1 sec then | 19:32 |
| rgreening | don't install yet | 19:32 |
| ulaas | rgreening: at your service.ready to roll. | 19:32 |
| rgreening | ulaas: plasma-widget-networkmanagement: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager | 19:32 |
| rgreening | apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 19:33 |
| ulaas | hmmmm i may drop... i ll be back.. | 19:33 |
| rgreening | kk | 19:33 |
| ulaas | rgreening: yay!!!! | 19:43 |
| ulaas | that will do!!! i was installing plasma-widget-network-manager | 19:47 |
| ulaas | plasma-widget-networkmangement is good | 19:47 |
| ulaas | rgreening: kudos and thanks. | 19:47 |
| ulaas | rgreening: seems to be ok. a reboot was neccessary though | 19:50 |
| rgreening | cool. A logout may have worked also :) | 19:51 |
| ulaas | did that. worked but dropped reconnected a few times. so rebooted. anyway .similar named packages. that was my problem | 19:52 |
| ulaas | thank you very much. | 19:52 |
| ulaas | rgreening: one more question :) will kde 4.4 see exchange support? | 19:52 |
| rgreening | ulaas: not sure, but a good place ot ask would be #kde-devel or #kontact I guess. | 19:53 |
| ulaas | rgreening: i see. thats the only thing left blocks me a full switch :) | 19:54 |
| rgreening | actually, talk to stgraber, usually in #ubuntu-devel | 19:54 |
| ulaas | rgreening: will do. thx again | 19:55 |
| rgreening | stgraber does a lot of stuff with Schools/business and Linux. He may know more on this subject. | 19:55 |
| rgreening | also Tonio_ may know too... he has similar experience with integrating linux into french parliament, etc... | 19:56 |
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| Nightrose | which repo is amarok 2.1.1 in for jaunty? | 21:15 |
| * Nightrose lost track of it and a user can't find it | 21:15 | |
| Nightrose | ok nvm | 21:18 |
| * ryanakca found a bug in irssi, hurray ;) (sigsev when running '/window move down') in a split window) | 21:42 | |
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