[00:00] eheh :> [00:01] shtylman: yes! you need to test your own dog-food (and as you are working on the installer, then...) :P [00:03] * a|wen was very impressed by the installer at alpha 3 stage [00:04] yay for borked ext4 in jaunty once again [00:05] Quintasan: why not just upgrade to karmic === asac_ is now known as asac [00:05] a|wen: fglrx [00:06] a|wen: radeon is too slow, radeonhd has no support for Direct rendering and fglrx fails to build kernel module [00:06] Quintasan: which gfx-card? [00:06] a|wen: Radeon HD3450 [00:08] a|wen: but I have run through that installer like a bazillion times :) ... doing it for real just seems...too surreal ... [00:10] he :) [00:14] Quintasan: just stick to old hardware like me [00:14] a|wen: I had Radeon 9550 but it was a pain in the ass :( [00:15] radeon 9600 on my desktop ... X300 mobile on the laptop [00:18] Quintasan: style-crystal uploaded [00:18] thanks [00:19] won't get to the other one this WE [00:45] Quintasan: you pinged? [00:46] Riddell: yeah, could you check update to aurorae? I uploaded it to REVU since a|wen mentioned it's a pain in the ass to get files from LP bugs [00:48] Quintasan: URL? [00:49] Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kwin-style-aurorae [00:59] get hot new stuff for aurorae doesn't work, the get new stuff window is always below the kwin configure window [01:00] Riddell: can you give me a screenshot of this? [01:09] http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/aurorae.png [01:09] Quintasan: package uploaded [01:09] thanks [01:12] Riddell: want me to go ahead and put the keyboard display into the installer to let people try it out? [01:12] well before the next alpha... [01:14] shtylman: ooh you have it? [01:14] shtylman: why the doubts? [01:14] yea...ive had it for a while... well..there are some concerns that because it only displays a standard keyboard layout [01:14] people might be confused [01:15] if they have non standard layout of keys [01:15] (like evand gave the example that he has an extra key between his 'z' key and shift [01:15] I personally think that people are aware enough of what a *standard* keyboard layout is that seeing the keyboard will actually be of greater help [01:16] and better feedback [01:16] the problem is that I can only change the text displayed on the keys when they change their keyboard layout/variant... I cannot, as it would be impossible basically to detect, rearrange the keys to match their actual setup [01:19] Riddell: lp:~shtylman/+junk/keyboard ... and run keys.py to the see first working example [01:20] I got the basic idea down for what I wanted...just need to see how to handle languages it can't find and whatnot... [01:21] so that's what an Afghani keyboard looks like [01:21] where does it get the data from? [01:22] asks the system for the unicode character for a particular keycode [01:22] lines 19 and 20 of keys.py [01:22] looks good, go for it I say [01:23] it basically gets a C header file from that command and parses it for the key info [01:23] not the prettiest solution..but it was what I had [01:23] alrighty...I will start migrating that in then [01:26] the real trick I want to figure out is showing the shifted keys without the user doing anything [01:26] that would basically just finalize it for me :) [01:37] hi, I have a problem compiling konversation. Source code depends of kdepim headers, but kdepim-dev depends of kde-4.2.4 libraries, and I have kde 4.3 :s [01:42] any suggestions? [01:42] I'm in Jaunty [01:47] Gon: it complains at me about kdepim-dev: Depends: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) but it is not installable [01:47] is that what you get? [02:13] kdepim-runtime: Entra en conflicto: akonadi-kde (< 4:4.2.95) pero se va a instalar 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. [02:13] kdepimlibs5-dev: Depende: kdepimlibs5 (= 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1) pero está instalado 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1. [02:13] an many more... [02:14] I'm going to paste in a pastebin [02:14] Gon: apt-cache policy kdepimlibs5-dev [02:15] http://gon.pastebin.com/m31b5b38 [02:15] http://gon.pastebin.com/m5ceb52da [02:17] Gon: you don't have 4.3 available to install [02:17] you must have disabled it [02:18] ? [02:18] Sysinfo for 'acer': Linux 2.6.31-999-generic running KDE 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0), CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)CPU550@2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (4000 bogomips), HD: 72/109GB, RAM: 1949/2004MB, 148 proc's, 2.3h up [02:18] only kdepim libs are broken :s [02:33] Gon: well I uploaded a fix but your main problem is that you don't have kubuntu ppa backports enabled [02:36] Riddell: ! sorry, [02:36] sorry, it's true, I did not realize I had moved my kubuntu-ppa.list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [02:36] :$ [02:50] Riddell: ! [02:50] I have enabled kubuntu ppa backports now [02:50] and... [02:50] No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: [02:50] kdepim-dev: Depende: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) que es un paquete virtual. [02:55] Sir-Gon: wait...he uploaded kdepim right now, is still building, you can see here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports when it is finished [03:05] aaaaaah ok :D [03:05] thanks [03:08] :) [03:14] hey Riddell [03:15] i just hit a question that i cant answer because im not sure how apt-get upgrade works. if you install a package with dpkg -i and it is available in a repository, will it get updates? or will apt only update things that it has installed itself? i *think* the former, but im not sure.. [03:23] maco: apt can upgrade the packages which you installed with dpkg -i, there are not problems :) [03:24] lex79: thanks [03:24] you're welcome === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve [03:52] maco: apt is a front end for dpkg which is a front end for dselect. [03:52] So dpkg installs it regardless of if you call dpkg directly or not. [03:55] i know dpkg installs it [03:55] i meant does apt only know to upgrade things that apt has installed [03:55] i know aptitude maintains its own db separate from dpkg's, so i didnt know if that had an effect [03:57] Right. That's one of the reasons I don't use aptitude. It doesn't use the package cache the rest of the system uses. [03:57] Apt and dpkg use the same mechanisms to track package status. [04:02] Riddell, lex79 [04:02] thanks!!!!! [04:02] i'm updating now [04:02] =D [04:37] finally [04:37] * Sir-Gon building konversation from svn :D [05:10] Riddell: googlefight.com is another site that works in Firefox, but not Arora. [06:38] org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.InvalidMountOption : The option 'locale=en_US.UTF-8' is not allowed for uid=1000 [06:39] should this go to launchpad? [08:01] Riddell, ScottK: akonadi-googledata is waiting in NEW queue for somebody to kick it over [08:24] ulaas: Sure. [08:25] ScottK: ok! installing / launching and adding that this disk with ntfs-config makes it work. does this make a difference? [08:26] Please put it in the bug, [08:26] ok [08:28] ScottK: sorry to bug you all the time but i know that it is hal related. but it is seen on dolphin. so hal? or dolphin? [08:29] ulaas: report for dolphin, if it's a hal issue we'll move it to hal for you [08:30] tsimpson: allrighty.. [08:31] always assume the bug is at the highest level (unless you know better), then work your way down [08:32] the only think that i know "better" is that i know nothing. socrates... [08:34] for every rule, there is an exception. rules without an exception, are the exception to this rule. me :) [08:35] :) === ejat is now known as e-jat === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === PriceChild is now known as Pricey [16:43] Riddell: Thanks for frescobaldi [16:43] it had such a cool name I couldn't ignore it [16:44] moi juissi [16:45] Riddell: hehe :) Are you watching the "ICF Canoe Sprint World Championships" today? [16:45] ryanakca: no, where's that happening? [16:46] Riddell: Dartmouth / Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada [16:48] any Scots winning? [16:49] Riddell: No clue, but you can watch it at http://www.canoeicf.com/default.asp?Page=2524 since I'm guessing it won't be broadcast in the UK [16:49] My first thought was that I'm not competing, then I noticed the insufficiency of t's. [17:16] WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO CHANGE THE CHOQOK ICON TO A GREEN COLOR!?!?!?!? [17:16] anyways, thanks! I love it, I can tell the difference between it and kopete now :) [18:29] * ScottK notes Debian Bug#541691 to koffice lovers and suggests go help. [18:29] Debian Bug #541691 even [18:29] Debian bug 541691 in wnpp "RFH: koffice -- KDE Office Suite" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/541691 [18:31] mm, I've entirely forgotten to do koffice 2.0.2 [18:51] Riddell: I update koffice in bzr few days ago, but now I'm merging with experimental === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [19:08] lex79: great, let me know when it's ready to upload [19:08] ok [19:13] current knetworkmanger is a no go with wpa.. [19:13] is that correct? [19:18] ulaas: it should work with wpa [19:19] Riddell: lemme check my ap for a sec. just to be sure.. [19:21] Riddell: ok. my kubuntu karmic is a fresh 64 install early today.. had no luck with my AP set to wpa. [19:21] using wicd atm [19:24] Riddell: i also have a cable connection handy! and my wicd debs downloaded already. if you want me to test anything.. ican.. [19:25] Can someone try to apt-get install mono-2.0-gac and see if they get a "Size mismatch" error ? [19:25] ulaas: you need the updates from after Alpha4 for the fix [19:26] rgreening: i am always bleeding edge. if you are not tailking about a specific PPA [19:26] ulaas: you have it all updated to latest updates? [19:26] no PPA required [19:28] rgreening: so no luck. i am fully updated.. [19:29] ulaas: strange. Try deleting the AP and kill knetworkmanager and restart it. Reconfigure the AP from scratch again. [19:29] ulaas: I had to do this to get mine to pick up the first time. [19:30] rgreening: give me the package name.. to make good test .as there are plasma--this networkmanager-that - blah blah everywhere [19:30] killall knetworkmanager (as above) [19:31] lemme apt*get [19:31] no [19:31] don't you already have knetworkmanager running in system tray? [19:31] no i have wicd up. remember knetworkm.. does not work for me... [19:31] If it's not in the system tray, then you are using the old plasmoid, which does not work. [19:32] oh [19:32] 1 sec then [19:32] don't install yet [19:32] rgreening: at your service.ready to roll. [19:32] ulaas: plasma-widget-networkmanagement: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager [19:33] apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement [19:33] hmmmm i may drop... i ll be back.. [19:33] kk [19:43] rgreening: yay!!!! [19:47] that will do!!! i was installing plasma-widget-network-manager [19:47] plasma-widget-networkmangement is good [19:47] rgreening: kudos and thanks. [19:50] rgreening: seems to be ok. a reboot was neccessary though [19:51] cool. A logout may have worked also :) [19:52] did that. worked but dropped reconnected a few times. so rebooted. anyway .similar named packages. that was my problem [19:52] thank you very much. [19:52] rgreening: one more question :) will kde 4.4 see exchange support? [19:53] ulaas: not sure, but a good place ot ask would be #kde-devel or #kontact I guess. [19:54] rgreening: i see. thats the only thing left blocks me a full switch :) [19:54] actually, talk to stgraber, usually in #ubuntu-devel [19:55] rgreening: will do. thx again [19:55] stgraber does a lot of stuff with Schools/business and Linux. He may know more on this subject. [19:56] also Tonio_ may know too... he has similar experience with integrating linux into french parliament, etc... === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [21:15] which repo is amarok 2.1.1 in for jaunty? [21:15] * Nightrose lost track of it and a user can't find it [21:18] ok nvm [21:42] * ryanakca found a bug in irssi, hurray ;) (sigsev when running '/window move down') in a split window) === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde