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BigBuzzarduser name is router name wrt54xxx or somthing and psword is admin00:00
corI'd help, noobstian, but I've set the scrollback to a rediculously low level and (so) I can't see what your original problem was. Could you rephrase it into a few words?00:01
noobstianhello, I just installed ubuntu jaunty for the first time on my compaq presario cq40 laptop, and i'm having some trouble, i'm only able to connect to thee wireless connection on gnome and theres no sound onthe computr, i just installed the kubuntu-desktop and now when i logged onto gnome theres an icon on the desktop that says home.desktop and i'm afraid to erase it00:01
Zxcvbcan you install koffice 2.0.1 without installing kde 4.3?00:04
cornoobstian, in reality, hardware either works, and you get on with sh*t, or it doesn't and you do some WORK, getting it to work. Are you ready for that?00:04
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coras for the desktop file, delete that, if you really must. but ask yourself, "Do I really need to delete this file?"00:05
noobstianyes00:05
noobstianas in i want to make it work00:06
coris that yes to the you beaing ready to WORK, read through manuals, learn shell commands and all that?00:06
noobstianyes00:06
corgood man! (or woman)00:06
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noobstianpenis00:06
Zuz|GoPatsi keep getting firefox 3.5 updates everyday  :(00:06
corIn your shoes, my first port of call would be google. Check to see if someone else has the *exact* same setup as you. There is a high chance of this. Use Google Linux.00:07
Zxcvbcor: yeah, getting a toshiba nb205 working was a pain00:07
corbut your pain can save someone elses!#00:07
cormany many people's00:07
noobstianok im on google linux00:08
corthank the lord for search engines!00:08
noobstianwhat am i looking for here00:08
corjust google your exact model number, and ubuntu00:08
corthen, if nothing looks good, try without the ubuntu00:08
noobstianfor the modem or the laptop?00:09
Zxcvbcor: had to use the omnibook module and brute force the ectype option (ectype=12, finally) to get bluetooth working as well as enable wifi without windows (software killswitch problem)00:09
Zuz|GoPatsnoobstian: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?00:09
corthen get specific, adding terms for your hardware, using the exact strings you see in dmesg00:09
corouch!00:09
Zuz|GoPatsbe back later00:09
noobstiani installed ubuntu then kubuntu desktop but now im on gnome00:09
corMy other laptop is flawless in all distros. It's cuz it's a cheap laptop, I guess, a lot of them around. Linux is always painless on it. On this thing. Pfff!00:10
noobstiani only got one result00:10
noobstianfor a different model00:10
noobstianhttp://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-78886-installing-ubuntu-linux-in-compaq-cq40-133tu00:10
noobstianthe first four digitsof the model are the same tho00:10
corOkay, better than nuffink. Check for relevant info. If not, you'll want to skip ubuntu references and just aim for your hardware on Linux.00:11
BigBuzzardim new to irc. how do i find and log on to other chats00:11
corBigBuzzard, depends on the client00:11
Zxcvbcor: took a few days to figure out I needed the omnibook module (it worked for a different toshiba laptop, so I just guessed it might work, even though nobody had tried it on that system00:11
corBigBuzzard, inside you home folder in .NameOfClient/logs is a good bet00:12
Zxcvbcor: I still haven't gotten sound working out of the speaker (headphones work, though)00:12
Zxcvbcor: the wiki still says the only way to get wifi to work is to enable it with ctrl-f8 in doze, though00:12
corEverything we do, so long as it's documented somewhere, is worth it. Keep at it, dude!00:12
Zxcvbcor: any idea how you would edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks/ToshibaNB205?00:13
noobstiancor: the rest of the results when taking ubntu out were just adds00:14
cornoobstian,  Well, that's always a good place to start! It looks like you're going to have to get generic!00:15
noobstianok...00:15
corZxcvb, dunno. I've not visited. I'll check it out.00:15
noobstianwhat should i look for now00:15
corLooks like you need to be logged in to see edit controls00:16
Zxcvbcor: ok, I'll make an account later00:16
Zxcvbcor: my info is on the forum post for the nb205 currently00:16
noobstianim not logged in?00:17
cornoobstian, which piece of hardware you want working first?00:17
cornoobstian, that was for Zxcvb00:17
noobstianthe laptop?00:17
noobstiani mean00:17
noobstianthe sound00:17
noobstiansound card?00:17
FloodBotK2noobstian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:17
corright, which sound card is it?00:17
noobstianhow do i check that on a terminal?00:17
corI usually start with dmesg00:17
noobstianhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/153001300:18
corwoah!00:20
noobstian*reading through that data*00:21
corNo obvious sign of sound card00:22
noobstianthere was sound when i had vista i swear00:22
cordid you say you get sound in your headphones?00:22
noobstianno no, on the laptops speakers00:22
corhuh?00:22
noobstiani swear, it came with vista on it and it had sound00:23
corsure, but this isn't Vista00:23
noobstiansure00:23
corOn Ubuntu, do you get sound from *anywhere*?00:23
noobstiannope00:23
cork00:23
cornoobstian, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706/+viewstatus00:24
corYou should post there00:25
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noobstiancor, so what do i do, to post there?00:27
noobstianand what od i post?00:27
noobstianthat's exactly my problem yes00:27
corwell, it's not just that dude, it's also you. So if you post, the status may shift to bug, and something get done00:28
noobstiancor, i alreqdy signed up00:31
noobstianhow do i post in that thread00:32
coryou gotta sign up first I think00:32
coreveryone wants a sign-up00:32
noobstiani signed up00:32
corDoh! I just noticed you already did00:33
corall those years in the darkroom, red text is wonky00:33
corcan't you just post, then? You logged in?00:33
noobstianhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706 here?00:34
noobstianwhat do i post? i dont want to sound like a know nothing schmuck00:34
noobstiani have the same problem?00:34
corpretty much, yeah. and don't worry about sounding foolish, I never let it stop me00:35
coryou'll also want to look at the three outputs he provided, and do the two you haven't yet done00:36
noobstianok i just posted00:36
corand in there, look for the exact model of your sound card so you can, in the meantime, get yours working00:36
corinside the two output files, I mean.00:37
noobstianso do i type lsmod into the terminal?00:37
coryup: sudo lsmod00:37
cora couple of links for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation00:38
coractually, that'll do for now. ;o)00:38
coralso, seriously, have you asked on #ubuntu? there might be a CQ40 owner there!00:39
noobstiancor http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/153003000:39
noobstianjust asked in there00:42
EagleScreenis there in repository any web development application? something similar to Frontpage?00:43
corwoah! another list! I see sound modules loaded, so it must have picked up your sound card. Is it not listed in the system preferences? I can't be specific cuz I don't know gnome00:45
corEagleScreen, yes, a few.00:45
cora "wysiwyg" editor00:45
noobstianon my system preferences?00:45
noobstianhold on00:46
corI dunno what Gnome calls it, in KDE it would be system settings00:46
noobstiandefault mixer tracks00:46
noobstianand there's a dropdown list00:46
corEagleScreen, do a search in your package manager. I can't recommend one or another, but I know there's a few00:46
noobstianon the devices00:47
cornoobstian, I'd mess around in there for a while before recompiling drivers00:47
noobstianlike pick different options of everything and ttest for sound?00:47
eitreachHello. I have problems with sound in flash movies, running Ubuntu 9.04 with KDE 4.3. Is there a common solution to this?00:48
coryeah, switch everything! try different players, that sorta thing.00:48
wirechiefhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting   <<< thats a good link for checking out your sound00:49
eitreachI wouldn't know what to look for. It works fine in Gnome, and  Amarok works fine as well.00:49
noobstiancor: none of them work00:52
coreitreach, is that flv files?00:52
noobstianpulseaudio, alsa, oss, etc00:52
corweird00:52
eitreachcor: yeah.00:53
coralthough I've had no problems, I often hear people recommending folk uninstall pulseaudio.00:53
corbrb00:54
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cor_occupiedgot guests I gotta erm, handle, hopefully bbl00:55
noobstianAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!100:56
takoskiahi00:57
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w00lyHello, can anyone tell me where to find the amd k8 2.6.30 kernel? Is there such a thing? Is it any better than the generic i386?01:11
w00lyanyone here?01:12
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edui have problem with sound in ubuntu 9.04 with sdlmame01:57
eduit is noisy in games01:57
eduany ideas?01:57
maxiehow do i changes the keybord input??? because like when / button & is show on screen02:47
Dragnslcrmaxie- check System Settings -> Regional & Language03:02
mwadeKSis there any difference in a file version name that ends with *ppa5 from one that ends with *ppa4 ?03:05
mwadeKSor are they the same file from two different repositories only?03:05
mwadeKSis there anyone here that can see me?03:10
mwadeKSI wish you all a good night.03:11
J-_Does anyone know the command to start wicd up at startup in ~/.kde/Autostart?03:13
J-_what path does wicd install at? Or at least the executable?03:15
areskiolá!03:25
areskihello!03:26
J3ster_can any one help me out with changing my hdd's linux file persissions and ownership, i have read the chmod & chwon man pages but this hasd not sorted me problem03:43
J3ster_my media folder with a ls -l looks like this -03:44
J3ster_drwx------ 9 craig root 32768 1970-01-01 12:00 BACK-UP DRV03:44
J3ster_lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   999     6 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom -> cdrom003:44
J3ster_drwxr-xr-x 2 root   999  4096 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom003:44
J3ster_drwxrwxrwx 1 root  root 16384 2009-08-14 17:09 Storage03:44
FloodBotK2J3ster_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:44
J3ster_i just want to be able to out the Storage hdd back into my windows 2k3 server and be able to make changes, at present with the linux permissions messing everything up it keeps giving me a permission denied reply03:47
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gilsonwww.terra.com.br04:12
abhilashgood moring all i a abhilash04:19
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:20
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:20
abhilashsound is not proper04:20
abhilashplz help04:21
J3ster_this channel sux hard, you waisting your time if you want any help04:22
J3ster_boo this channel04:22
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:23
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:23
abhilashsound is not proper04:23
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:43
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:43
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:43
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:43
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:43
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:43
FloodBotK2abhilash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:43
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:43
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:43
abhilashMy laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.04:43
abhilashIt will always repeats the last piece of sound.04:43
abhilashsound is not proper04:43
abhilashhello sir  plz help any one  . In my compaq cqq 45 system not getting sound how to edit audio source file in /etc/04:48
abhilashCompaq presario CQ4504:49
AJ1ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?04:50
puff_!ru05:03
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke05:03
puff_Where can i download Adobe Flash for my x64 system?05:05
bastidrazorabhilash,05:06
pheonix hi can anyone help me changing the desktop background05:07
abhilashhello sir bastidrazor05:07
abhilashcan u help me ?05:08
FireFly10Hi people I suddenly find that I can't unlock my taskbar. Is there anyway to fix that?05:19
FireFly10hello05:20
heoWhat is wrong?  find . -type f -exec 'sed -i ...05:52
heo... "s#eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee#queries#g"' '{}' \;05:52
heofind . -type f -exec 'sed -i "s#a#queries#g"' '{}' \;05:53
heosorry about the former, hard to read.05:53
heoI try to replacee every a in every file of the dir-tree05:54
heo*a = a alphabet05:54
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yamishidoes anyone knows how to make a miniscript that pings google and if it is unable to connect restarts the network?06:43
yamishii have a rough idea about almost all06:44
AdysHi all. I tried to update my nvidia drivers to 190.x but didn't do it cleanly... now after hours of messing with command line, I finally got back to kdm07:01
Adysproblem is, kdm logs in fine, but it just "stays still" at the blue default wallpaper, nothing else starts07:02
Adysany hint what could be causing it?07:02
mrh0057__Look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and see if there are any error messages07:03
AdysI dont think ive seen any last time lemme check again07:03
mrh0057__The file is /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:04
Adyshttp://pastebin.com/m66a2721807:05
Adysfull file07:05
Adysxorg.conf is the one generated by nvidia's installer07:05
Adys(i downgraded back to 185.18.30)07:05
mrh0057__look at ~/.xsession-errors to07:09
Adyschecking07:09
Adysnothing special, just Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.07:10
AdysI don't think its xorg07:10
Adysbut I don't know what else07:10
mrh0057__.kde may have been corrupted07:10
Adysi rm -rf'd it07:11
Adys.kderc too07:11
AdysAny idea what could reset whatever it is kdm is supposed to start?07:13
mrh0057__no I never tried to reset kdm before07:14
mrh0057__You can try to restart it and if that doesn't work you can try restarting the machine07:16
Adysi restarted it like 10 times07:16
mrh0057__have you tried logging in as a different user?07:16
Adyshmm no actually07:16
Adysgood idea07:16
Adyssame results07:18
Adysgrr07:18
theadminMenu editor acts weirdly. I add some stuff, then it goes all "Upgrading system configuration", and it keeps doing this forever. (it resets when reaches 100%)07:19
mrh0057__Adys I don't know what else it could be unless there is a permission error07:20
Adysran a chown -r on ~07:20
mrh0057__Did you create a new user account and try to login07:21
Adysyes just now, same result07:21
Adyshowever the temp user definitely gets logged in from kdm07:21
Adysit just doesnt start anything like the other07:21
mrh0057__yeah it will just be the defaults07:21
Adysyep but this must be system-wide then07:22
Adysisnt there some sort of system daemon manager in kde?07:22
Adysi remember messing with that a while ago07:22
mrh0057__kwin is the new manager07:22
AdysI mean a system-wide service editor07:23
mrh0057__the /etc/init.d/kdm is the dameon07:23
Adysya but i thought there was a services manager07:23
mrh0057__I don't know if there is a default one but you can use sysv-rc-conf07:24
Adysah great07:26
mrh0057__Do you have any unreachable nfs mounted07:26
Adysmrh0057__: Nope07:28
pheonixhow do i add an application to run once i log into kubuntu07:29
mrh0057__ /notice Adys sorry I don't think I can help you further.  I'm out of ideas of what it can be07:30
pheonixi mean is there something called startup menu07:30
theadminwhat is a good tool to mount .iso's?07:31
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mrh0057__pheonix - there is no startup menu in kde07:33
pheonixthen how do i manage it07:33
mrh0057__theadmin - you can mount iso with mount07:33
theadminmrh0057, like, "mount /home/theadmin/file.iso /mnt/isodrive"?07:34
mrh0057__Here is a link explaining it http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html07:35
mostafahello there I have a problem07:38
mostafawhen I shutdown or restart it doesn't do them and just stop for me07:39
mrh0057__pheonix - put the scripts you wont to start in $HOME/.kde/Autostart07:39
mostafato press alt+ctrl+del07:39
pheonixmrh0057__: how do i restart my kde07:41
mrh0057__pheonix /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:42
mostafaraphink: can you help me bro?07:42
mrh0057__mostafa: does it give you an halt message when you shutdown instead of powering off07:43
pheonix<mrh0057__> error Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).07:43
pheonixNot starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.07:43
mrh0057__is gdm your default?07:44
pheonixi think so07:44
mrh0057__/etc/init.d/gdm restart07:44
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mrh0057__pheonix: try removing every hidden file and directory that starts with .g in your home folder07:45
pheonixmrh0057: have to leave will talk later bye07:46
mostafamrh0057__: I just go and check it for you again07:52
ulaasi hate firefox deps on ubuntu07:53
ulaaseven esound....geeeeez07:53
mostafamrh0057__: when i want to restart it says "will now restart"07:53
mostafaand when i press alt+ctrl+del07:54
mostafamrh0057__:  it says "md:stopping all md devices"07:54
mrh0057__mostafa: that means it is shutting down07:54
mostafathe difference between restart and shutdown is just07:55
mrh0057__mostafa: it could have a problem releasing a device and get stuck07:55
mrh0057__mostafa: there is little difference between shutdown and restart in what runs07:56
theadminOh, about that... When i shut down, it says the following stuff:07:56
theadmin*Will now halt07:56
theadmin*Could not iterate IDE devices: No such file or directory07:56
mostafawhat should I do then? I think it is because of RAID system but I don't want it and I don't know how to remove it07:56
mrh0057__theadmin - it means your computer acpi system probably not supported to shutdown the computer07:57
mostafahow could I understand it supports or not?07:58
mrh0057__theadmin - I mean power off.  All the services will shutdown07:58
theadminuh wha? No, it shuts down normally.07:58
theadminExcept this error07:59
mrh0057__mostafa - I don't have much experience with software raids07:59
mrh0057__theadmin - could be an error with udev08:00
mrh0057__theadmin- are you using any ide drives?08:00
mostafamrh0057__: I think it is the cause of that :D08:00
theadminmrh0057_, i have NO idea what those are08:01
theadminuh08:02
theadminSomething's wrong with firefox08:02
theadminAll my bookmarks have dissappeared. And also, it does not show anything in address bar when i open any page08:02
mrh0057__mostafa: do a search on google.  There should be a log somewhere for the software raid08:03
theadminAnd it opens mozilla.org, even though google.com is my homepage.08:03
zoisshey guys. i have still trouble with my startup mixer settings. the master volume is set to the desired value first (like alsactl restore) but after some seconds it switches to 0. kmix is set to NOT load startup values so there has to be another proc that is changing the mixer settings. does anyone have any ideas?08:03
theadminguess i'll reboot. Will most likely solve it, firefox acts weird sometimes.08:04
theadminWhat's wrong with the forums?08:17
theadminSigh. I have a problem and nobody can help me... is there a firefox support channel or something? Cause it's serious.08:26
theadminNever mind :D found it.08:27
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FirefisheI'm using kde 4.2.4, I'm assuming compositing is on.  Each time I use Firefox, after a bit of browsing, suddenly my scrollbar locks up, then the screen start artificating something fierce.  What might be going on here?08:41
Firefishestarts artifacting08:41
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oliveraa1angoxchat09:03
oliveraa1angohi09:04
oliveraa1angojust new to this IRC in ubunut environment09:04
oliveraa1angoneed help ... appreciate any response09:04
mostafahi09:05
mostafaoliveraa1ango: r u there?09:05
mostafaoliveraa1ango: y don't u say your prob?09:06
oliveraa1angohi09:06
oliveraa1angoyes im online09:06
oliveraa1angojust new to ubuntu env ... is there any similar IE for ubuntu os?09:07
mostafaInterner Explorer you mean09:07
mostafa?09:07
oliveraa1angois there a YM or GTalk look alike IM in ubuntu?09:07
oliveraa1angoyap, mostafa...09:08
rysholiveraa1ango: try firefox :-)09:08
mostafafirefox and pidgin09:08
oliveraa1angoLocation please, mostafa?09:08
oliveraa1angohi rysh09:08
oliveraa1angobut im in ubuntu pc server09:08
rysholiveraa1ango: i think Pidgin can also use gtalk09:09
mostafafirefox for your browser and pidgin or kopete for your messenger09:09
oliveraa1angois firefox built-in in ubuntu server?09:09
mostafarysh: yeah it can09:09
oliveraa1angohow can i use it?09:09
rysholiveraa1ango: isn't ubuntu server only console ?09:09
oliveraa1angohow to do it mostafa?09:09
oliveraa1angorysh, yes ... im in my newly installed ubuntu pc server09:10
oliveraa1angohi promulo09:10
mostafatype "sudo apt-get install pidgin firefox" in terminal09:10
mostafaoliveraa1ango: then run them09:10
mostafa:D09:10
oliveraa1angomostafa, i can do it in this irc?09:10
mostafaopen terminal09:11
oliveraa1angosudo apt-get install pidgin firefox09:11
oliveraa1angoops ... ok through terminal ...09:11
mostafayeah type this through terminal09:11
oliveraa1angoim more familiar with windows env09:11
oliveraa1angohow can i open terminal if im in thi irc?09:12
mostafaoliveraa1ango: you just change the environment?09:12
rysholiveraa1ango: what program you use for IRC09:12
shanali4How to open my computer in kubuntu09:13
oliveraa1angohmmmm... got lost how i entered ... xchat?09:13
shanali4How to open my computer in kubuntu09:13
mostafaoliveraa1ango: press "alt+f2" then type terminal09:13
oliveraa1angohi shanali09:13
shanali4Hi09:13
shanali4I M new to linux09:13
shanali4Plz help How to open my computer in kubuntu09:14
mostafayou can explore your hard drive through konqueror,dolphin,terminal09:14
oliveraa1angogot lost with Alt+F209:15
shanali4Their is no C:, D:, E: drives09:15
shanali4plz help09:15
oliveraa1angowas asked to relog in this server ...09:15
oliveraa1angohow can i chk what irc im using  .... earlier tried xchat ...09:15
mostafaoliveraa1ango: do you have graphical environment?09:15
user_Linux shows them as file systems not hardrives (dev or sha i think)09:16
oliveraa1angoi think ... irssi09:16
ryshshanali4: what you mean with "open my computer" ... what you want to do ? ...09:16
ryshyou can see the files in Dolphin / konqueror ... this is like Explorer09:16
oliveraa1angomostafa ... yes ... i think im in irsii or xchat09:17
oliveraa1angodolphin?09:17
oliveraa1angois dolphin a std package in ubuntu server version?09:17
rysholiveraa1ango: xchat is a GUI program...09:17
mostafaoliveraa1ango: yes it is09:17
rysholiveraa1ango: This is the kubuntu group ... where people use Kubuntu ... with KDE ...09:18
oliveraa1angorysh ... but i dont know this xchat is working although i installed it earlier09:18
oliveraa1angoi see... am i in wrong environment? but it should be compatible even im ubuntu ...09:18
oliveraa1angohow can i open XChat?09:19
rysholiveraa1ango: what you want to do with linux ?09:19
rysholiveraa1ango: browse the web ?09:19
ryshthen better not install ubuntu-server09:19
oliveraa1angojust a beginner to this ubuntu ...09:19
ryshbut install Kubuntu .... or if you want to use Gnome ... Ubuntu09:19
oliveraa1angothinkin this will give me an advantage use for a small startup biz09:20
ryshlast time i installed ubuntu-server it did not install a graphical user interface ...09:20
ryshso you have a black screen and need to type commands09:21
oliveraa1angoam i experiencing the same you had?09:21
oliveraa1angoyap ... all like a DOS env09:21
oliveraa1angowelcome back shanali09:21
user_good thing about ubuntu (variants) is th hard to grasp (unlike plain command line interfaces) so when switching from winblows it doesnt take long to get used to it :)e gui's arent09:21
oliveraa1angomostafa ... are you around? thanks for some inputs earlier09:21
oliveraa1angohi user?09:22
oliveraa1angoi think under ubuntu ... i can switch between window by using Alt command09:22
oliveraa1angocan sudo will do?09:23
rysholiveraa1ango: ... you have several options ... you can try to log in to another virtual terminal ... like CTRL ALT F2 .. .and log in there with your user name ... and do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:23
oliveraa1angoyou mean, i can install virtual terminal in ubuntu server envt?09:24
ryshHmmm seems CTRL not really needed ... only needed when you want to escape X09:24
ryshYes ...09:24
oliveraa1angolet me try ... ALT F2 or CTRL ALT F2?09:24
ryshboth will work i think ...09:25
oliveraa1angohold on ... will try ... hope i can return to this ...09:25
ryshYou can go back ... using F109:25
ryshmeaning ALT F109:25
oliveraa1angowuah ... almost lost ... lucky with ALT F109:26
oliveraa1angohahahahahaha...09:26
oliveraa1angoneed GPS in this Ubuntu env ..09:26
ryshBut you see it works ?09:26
oliveraa1angolearning new things ....09:26
ryshALT F2 will give you another login prompt09:27
oliveraa1angoyap ... ALT F1 will bring you back in this window09:27
oliveraa1angoyap rysh ...09:27
ryshso you have 6 of them09:27
oliveraa1angowhat was it again for virtual terminal?09:27
ryshtry login on on TT2 ... ALT F209:28
ryshTTY209:28
rysh:-)09:28
oliveraa1angothen what will be the scenario?09:28
oliveraa1angocommand not found at TTY09:28
ryshtype this command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:29
oliveraa1angolet me try ubuntu desktop ...09:29
rysholiveraa1ango: i am not really sure this will work, but you can try ... another option is download an desktop edition of (k)ubuntu and start over again and install that fresh09:30
oliveraa1angoyap ... downloading but it takes about 51 mins09:30
oliveraa1angoleft it still downloading09:30
ryshyeah :-) ... a lot of packages :-)09:31
oliveraa1angowill a desktop can run in server env?09:31
oliveraa1angoany idea?09:31
oliveraa1angohope it will work fine and not mess up this server09:31
ryshYes ... servers are daemon programs ...09:31
oliveraa1angowhat do you mean?09:31
ryshthese also work on a desktop machine09:31
rysha desktop machine only also has a GUI ...09:32
oliveraa1angodo i understd it as ubuntu desktop will work under ubuntu server envt?09:32
ryshubuntu-server is ubuntu without the graphical user interface09:33
oliveraa1angostill a lot of pkgs to download and install09:33
oliveraa1angoyap ... thought ubuntu server has gui09:33
oliveraa1angoonly desktop has gui like windows xp or vista09:33
oliveraa1angohi ethercrow09:33
ryshmost times a server only needs to serve ... no need to have a gui on such a machine09:34
oliveraa1angorysh...where are you located?09:34
ryshHK09:34
oliveraa1angoi see...im here in SG09:34
ryshAha  not to far away09:34
oliveraa1angohow to check what IRC im using at this moment?09:35
ryshseems i can use a command to ask you program to identify itself :-)09:35
oliveraa1angonow only ALT key is working ...09:35
ryshNo problem i think ///// you mean ALT F2 ?09:36
oliveraa1angowelcome back client109:36
oliveraa1angowelcome egidio09:37
oliveraa1angowelcome awidegreen09:37
oliveraa1angorysh ... what program or command is it?09:37
rysholiveraa1ango: you use  irssi v0.8.1209:38
oliveraa1angoinstalled irssi already ...09:39
ryshyes you are useing that now09:39
oliveraa1angolike to know to verify what irc im currently using now09:39
oliveraa1angohow to check?09:40
ryshirssi is the program you use to get on irc09:40
oliveraa1angook ... any command to verify this and its version?09:40
ryshit's version 0.8.1209:40
rysholiveraa1ango: i am not very familiar with this program so i am not suer how to chack from within irssi09:41
oliveraa1angoyes ... i got it now09:43
oliveraa1angoim using irssi09:43
ryshi myself use Quassel in KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu :-)09:43
oliveraa1angoi will need a lot of time to learn more about this ubuntu envt09:45
oliveraa1angoit's like DOS envt before09:46
oliveraa1angofast response but not friendly ... back in 1980s09:46
rysholiveraa1ango: the beginning is the hardest ... after that it will get easier and easier ...09:46
oliveraa1angoyap...09:46
oliveraa1angomy worry is the desktop im dwnldg now...hope it will not corrupt this svr setup09:47
ryshwhen you have a graphical user interface ... seems you are choosing for GNOME, then it will be maybe easier for you to manage09:47
oliveraa1angoGNOME?09:47
ryshubuntu is based on gnome ... kubuntu is based on KDE09:48
oliveraa1angoi see...09:48
ryshso you said you instaleld ubuntu-desktop09:48
ryshand not kubuntu-desktop09:48
oliveraa1angodwnldg ubuntu-desktop at this moment ... still will take minutes09:49
ryshSO if you have later questions about GNOME ... you better ask them in #ubuntu ... and not here :-)09:49
oliveraa1angoyap ... rysh ... ill look for the ubuntu channel / room09:50
ryshOK09:50
oliveraa1angohow is HK now?09:50
oliveraa1angowhere in HK are you stayg?09:50
ryshi'm on hk island09:50
oliveraa1angobut this #kubuntu channel is under server Ubuntu2 that shows in this IRC09:51
oliveraa1angonew territories?09:51
ryshNo ..... HK island09:51
oliveraa1angoah ok ....09:52
ryshhope for you this will work :-)09:52
oliveraa1angocrossing fingers09:53
oliveraa1angowhat do you do there in HK, rysh?09:54
oliveraa1angohow long do you use Kubuntu?09:54
ryshbtw you also can switch to other virt terminals using ALT left or right arrow keys09:54
corigoHaving some real troubles with the Task Bar widgets. Every time I click Add Widget I get a box that says "Desktop" and nothing else. Now the only widget left siplaying art the Launcher, Last Attached Device, and Network (which is unable to so a different icon when connected to the Wireless Network). I can't seem to remove the "Destop" boxes, and the task bar isn't even showing my open application windows any more. Help!09:54
oliveraa1angoyap ... cool09:55
corigoKDE 4.3 on Kubuntu 9.04_6409:55
rysholiveraa1ango: i use kubuntu now about 2 and half years ... but i use Linux for about 11 years09:55
oliveraa1angohi corigo09:55
oliveraa1angowow ... Linux Pro09:55
ryshmy main desktop OS09:56
oliveraa1angowho irssi09:56
oliveraa1angook ... your desktop is in a separate pc?09:57
oliveraa1angohi genan09:57
oliveraa1angohi newbuntu109:57
corigo is there a GUI app for managing Start up items like in Gnome?09:59
oliveraa1angowho10:00
corigoHaving some real troubles with the Task Bar widgets. Every time I click Add Widget I get a box that says "Desktop" and nothing else. Now the only widget left siplaying art the Launcher, Last Attached Device, and Network (which is unable to so a different icon when connected to the Wireless Network). I can't seem to remove the "Destop" boxes, and the task bar isn't even showing my open application windows any more. Help!10:11
oliveraa1angorysh, many thanks ... chat you later10:14
rysholiveraa1ango: ok ok ... hope it works10:14
oliveraa1angogoing to bootup just completed installing desktop10:15
oliveraa1angobuzz in later ...10:15
ryshok :-) ... success10:15
oliveraa1angonot yet ... once i able to buzz in will update you later10:15
ryshok10:15
oliveraa1angoquit10:16
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Seanhello, everyone11:09
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Guest96690help11:09
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sluo-bjhello11:10
sluo-bjanyone can see my msg?11:10
shadeslayersluo-bj: nope11:10
sluo-bjhei, shadeslaye11:11
shadeslayersluo-bj: hey11:11
sluo-bjI'm looking for driver for PCMICA card11:12
* shadeslayer checks out the new Karmic alpha 4 release11:12
shadeslayersluo-bj: does lspci show the card?11:13
sluo-bjIt seems not.11:15
shadeslayersluo-bj: hmm,then you need to find the correct module and use modprobe modulename11:16
sluo-bjer... but it seems not be detected11:18
shadeslayersluo-bj: that is why you need to find the module and manually load it11:20
sluo-bjbefore, I can see the light flashes when I insert it. but some time later, it go dark and never flash any more11:20
sluo-bjHow can I know the module name ?11:20
shadeslayersluo-bj: ok remove it and reinsert it and pastebin the output of : dmesg | tail11:21
shadeslayersluo-bj: youll have to google that,i have no idea11:21
sluo-bjI'm goooogling always...but no result so far.11:22
sluo-bjOk. Thank you any way :)11:22
ohlievherhi room11:29
kaddihi | ohlievher11:30
shadeslayerohlievher: oh hi11:30
kaddialmost would have worked, if I hadn't forgotten the ! :p11:30
shadeslayerkaddi: hehe11:32
ohlievherhi kaddi and shades11:32
ohlievherjust new to this envt11:32
ohlievheri mean in this ubuntu chatroom11:32
ohlievherwhat is this room all about?11:32
kaddithis is the official support channel for kubuntu11:33
ohlievheri see ... for kubuntu ... what's the difference with Ubuntu?11:34
kaddiincidentially my up- and my down-key stopped working this morning. :( I was wondering if I could reassign them with xmodmap or something, but I can't find out how to query the keycode of the keys. Does anyone know how to do this=11:34
kaddiohlievher the difference is the displaymanager and the installed programs. Kubuntu uses KDE and therefore uses amarok for music, konqueror for web and dolphin as explorer by default, while Ubuntu uses gnome as displaymanager and has rythmbox, epiphany and nautilus as default, I think.11:35
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mozillohello world11:49
ubuntuczesc11:52
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firsttimeuserhi12:54
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kaddi!hi | firsttimeuser13:03
ubottufirsttimeuser: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!13:03
bebebebebeCan i get some help with wicd here?13:09
cor!lol | kaddi13:09
ubottukaddi: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.13:09
corlol13:09
kaddio.o13:09
corbebebebebe, what sort of help?13:09
coruninstalling?13:09
bebebebebecant connect to one wep network,13:10
coroh my13:10
corwhat seems to be the trouble?13:10
bebebebebeit doesnt connect13:10
corclearly13:10
corwhat seems to be the trouble?13:11
bebebebebeehm, im on my neighbours now. but when i press connect it just loads for 1 sec and nothing happens13:11
bebebebebei have two wlans, can i connect both at the same time_13:11
corpress connect? is that in the list of available connexions in the wicd gui?13:12
bebebebebeyes13:12
corconnect to two wlans? sure, if you have two wlan cards. actually, it may be possible, with a virtual adapptor, but I've not tried that, yet13:12
corwhat do your error logs say the trouble is?13:13
bebebebebesomeone type something13:13
bebebebebeok im still connected to my neighbours13:13
cor!ping13:13
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore13:13
corfyi13:13
pheonixwhat is compiz manager equivalent in kubuntu13:14
bebebebebethe gui seems to be bugged, cause it doesnt connect to the wlan im pressing connect at13:14
bebebebebeor the statuswindow is bugged13:15
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bebebebebeits like randomly trying to connect to other networks when i press connect13:17
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corbebebebebe, clearly you've already uninstalled Network Manager. Personally, I'd also remove wicd and just setup your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, in the long run, it's usually easier.13:24
corI messed around with network managers for almost a whole weekend when I first put in Kubuntu - what a waste of time!13:25
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BluesKajHello all13:55
shadeslayerBluesKaj: he13:55
shadeslayer*hey13:55
BluesKajhi shadeslayer, did you figure out your streaming issue ?13:56
shadeslayerBluesKaj: yep13:56
shadeslayerBluesKaj: the media player widget can play video only via a gstreamer backend13:56
shadeslayernot via xine13:57
shadeslayersame goes for miniplayer13:57
BluesKajok, I use VLC for practically everything media...one stop shopping :)13:58
shadeslayerBluesKaj: yeah,me too,but i was just experimenting14:00
corget_iplayer + vlc = yum14:01
coreat dem playlist baby!14:01
BluesKajcor , iplayer ?14:09
corget_iplayer is a perl script that scrapes iplayer (and itv,et al with plugins). search, download, etc. rather good.14:10
BluesKajcor got a url - source site ?14:13
BluesKajor repos ?14:13
sturmtieFhi there14:14
sturmtieFups?14:15
co_ajamorning all14:17
sturmtieFmorning co-aja14:18
sturmtieFfunny, in germany its 15:1514:18
corsure, loads. one sec14:22
corhttp://linuxcentre.net/projects/get_iplayer-pvr-manager/14:22
firsttimeuser I am new to ubuntu ....I have a small issue ...it is not able to detect my usb smart drive...14:22
corthere's links to get_iplayer and all resources on that page.14:23
firsttimeusersmart drive 2.5 hdd nema enclosure....please help14:23
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BluesKajcor , so you use iplayer instead of mythtv , is this the idea ?14:28
cordunno about mythtv, I just like to grab certain radio/tv shows, and get_iplayer makes it scripting/cron-easy14:37
corwake up thursday morning, 2 hours of Gilles Peterson waiting in high quality audio format14:37
corMmmm..14:37
colton_Somehow I accidentally screwed up my desktop. When I click the minimize button on a window (the little upside down '^' looking thingy) it the window doesn't move to a tray from which I can click it and maximize it again, it just disappears. How do I fix this?14:49
kaddicolton_ gimme a second I'll find it.. :p14:57
kaddicolton_ the applet you are missing should be caled task manager. Just add it into your taskbar and you should see all the minimized windows there.14:59
colton_Aha, brilliant. Thx.15:00
colton_Oh look, I have ten instances of firefox, 4 instance of konqueror, 4 consoles. No wonder why my computer is quite as quick as i'm used to!15:01
kaddiyour welcome15:01
kaddilol15:01
corin the future, when you "accidentally" close the task manager, a message may pop up saying, "ARE YOU NUTS???!?", and so on15:04
kaddiI switched to fancytasks/stasks quite a while ago.. more shininess :D15:06
kaddibut stasks hasn't been updated in a while :(15:07
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twisterYes15:17
detest15:18
twisterWhy does anyone speak ?15:23
coror when they do, use back-to-front non-english15:24
twisterim from argentina but i can speak english15:25
corGood work!15:27
gerdHallo?15:35
BluesKaj!ask15:37
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:37
khaije|amaltso my kopete will only send messages with 'enter' with numlock is off, is this the intended behaviour?15:37
BluesKajjust making sure the bot is awake15:37
BluesKajuse konversation for irc15:38
khaije|amaltme? i am. lol, that was my 'question'15:39
khaije|amaltre: IM like jabber etc15:40
BluesKajthen why bother with kopete ?15:40
twisterIS To dificult to change from KDE to Gnome ?15:41
BluesKajtwister, ask in #ubuntu ,but there is a tutorial called pure gnome15:42
slow-motionhi15:44
shadeslayerslow-motion: hello15:46
sturmtieFshit, after distupgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 - my pcmcia-wlan issnt working, no connection possible via wlan15:46
slow-motionhi shadeslayer15:46
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sturmtieFif nobody have a idea - i make a clean fresh install from the 9.04 cd15:48
khaije|amaltsturmtieF: whats yr wlan card? you'll just as likely have the same problem with a clean install so you may as well do some research first15:50
corit's not windows, you know15:50
sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: ir is a netgear WGT15:51
sturmtieFups15:51
sturmtieFnetgear WG511T15:51
sturmtieFcor: i know ;)15:52
sturmtieFut with my background - perhups the try with a fresh install would be a bit faster....15:53
shadeslayer++15:53
khaije|amaltsturmtieF: could you paste the output to yr 'lspci' to pastebin pls?15:55
sturmtieFin the hardware-driver-manegment i cant actiate the driver for this pmcia - i see it - i can klick on activate - but nothing else .... its not activated after that ... and - yes - a lan-connection is running and working for that15:55
sturmtieFmom khaije|amalt15:56
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Guest93672hello?15:58
Guest93672hi15:58
Guest93672can someone help15:58
shadeslayersure15:58
Guest93672okay15:59
Guest93672i just put u buntu on my laptop15:59
sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: www.pastebin.org/922615:59
Guest93672like a week ag\15:59
Guest93672it was going like super fas15:59
shadeslayerGuest93672: how did you like it?15:59
Guest93672good.15:59
Guest93672lol15:59
Guest93672but now the boot time is horrible..16:00
Guest93672and all apps are slow to load16:00
Guest93672and download16:00
shadeslayerGuest93672: what did you do? :P16:00
Guest93672nothing!16:00
Guest93672lol16:00
shadeslayerGuest93672: ok,anyways install bootchart and have a look at the image of the  boot process and see if you detect a anomally16:01
Guest93672okay.16:01
Guest93672is there a terminal command to get bootchart16:01
sturmtieFGuest93672:  take the win cd more far away from your laptop16:01
Guest93672lol16:01
shadeslayer*anomaly16:02
cordetect an anomally.. very nice.. could have come straight out of Star Trek16:02
shadeslayercor: hehe16:02
shadeslayerGuest93672: type : sudo apt-get install bootchart in a terminal16:02
corI love how we speak like this now. with all this technology, it's a good thing16:02
sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: got the pastebin-link?16:03
Guest93672E: invalid bootchart operation16:03
shadeslayerGuest93672: you just need to reboot after installing16:04
corlol16:04
khaije|amaltsturmtieF: ya, u said it worked before the upgrade?16:04
Guest93672oh16:05
Guest93672so reboot now16:06
shadeslayerGuest93672: yep16:06
shadeslayerGuest93672: and the image would be in /var/log/bootchart16:07
khaije|amaltGuest93672: before you reboot, did bootchar install ok?16:07
khaije|amaltbootchart that is16:07
shadeslayer!bum | Guest9367216:08
ubottuGuest93672: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto16:08
sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: yes - worked before. first with WICD ... and brfore the upgrade i installed knetworkmanager instead - because of third-partie16:09
sturmtieFbut knetworkm. worked fine till the upgrade16:10
BluesKajsturmtieF, you skipped an important step when you upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 , you didn't upgrade to 8.10 first, therefore you have to expect broken apps and dependencies16:11
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sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: ups16:11
shadeslayerBluesKaj: ++16:11
sturmtieFkhaije|amalt: ok, fresh install ... over lan i am saving my homedir now - and after that - a short fresch install ... if there it is no quicker solution16:13
BluesKajshadeslayer, how many kernel upgrades since 8.04 ?16:13
sturmtieFoh, msg goes to BlueKaj16:13
sturmtieF:)16:13
sturmtieFsorry16:14
khaije|amaltsturmtieF: I think this would help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7237781&postcount=416:14
BluesKajsturmtieF, ithink a fresh install is best , yes16:14
khaije|amaltif my evaluation of this situation is correct, then it's actually not an especially complicated problem16:15
sturmtieFhmm16:15
BluesKajsturmtieF, have you tried wicd again , cuz the widget-network-manager is flaky still on 9.1016:18
shadeslayerBluesKaj: about 3 every version so thatll be about 9-1016:21
khaije|amaltoh ya, what BluesKaj said, I'm using gnome-networkmanager in kde4 for best effect16:22
sturmtieFno, but i will try it noe ... if WICD will solve this prob - its ok... wicd is not bad16:22
khaije|amaltanyone played with connman? i see it's in the ubuntu repo's16:23
sturmtieFsorry for typing-mistakes ... left hand is injured16:23
khaije|amaltnp :)16:23
sturmtieFonly little finger leftside is free to use ;)16:23
BluesKajso skipping a version upgrade is a dangerous practice IMO , lots of kernel modules not being installed16:25
BluesKajchanged kernel modules16:25
corman: interfaces16:25
shadeslayerBluesKaj: have you seen the new alpha 4 btw?16:26
adnashadeslayer: Just installed alpha 4 which works great but can't find my wireless chipset.16:28
shadeslayer:o16:30
shadeslayerim thinking of upgrading....16:30
adnaOr maybe not ipw3945 problem, but wireless doesn't work out of the box like with 9.0416:30
sturmtieFBluesKaj: khaije|amalt: i do now a fresh install... problem is the madwifi-driver ... i can not install it.16:31
adna...otherwise it's surprisingly stable for alpha.16:31
shadeslayercool16:32
sturmtieFand - after that - when the problem is still there - i need to go face to face with the code16:33
cornone of the kubuntu releases work with my wifi, I always need to put in some daily kernel16:34
coronce you find the right kernel, it's trivial.16:34
adnacor: How does one do that?16:34
corhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D16:35
corgoogle about to see if any kernel versions are known to work with your hardware, and keep trying the latest!16:35
cormeanwhile there's probably a driver out there.16:35
adnacor: THNX.16:36
cornp. remember to grab all the packages, source, headers, and kernel image. install in the correct order (the order that gives no errors!) and then simply add a line to your grub config, test it out. if it doesn't work, just reboot and your back to your regular kernel16:37
cor*you're16:37
GinoMan_someone in here really good at modules16:37
GinoMan_?16:38
adnacor: It's an intel chipset. the latest drivers are not downloadable, they're integrated with the kernel.16:38
corbut you can usually compile modules and add them to the kernel16:38
coras a last resort!16:38
jan__hello there, I got a question about ati and activating desktop effects in KDE 4.3... is there anyone that might help me with the issue that I can not activate it....16:54
jan__some sort of discussion...16:54
jan__at least...16:54
Tm_T!ati | jan__16:54
ubottujan__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:54
jan__okay, I'll look into it16:55
Tm_Tjan__: other than that, I'm not best person to help, so just explain your issue to us all and wait patiently if someone knows16:55
jan__okay, thx, I'll read through the given page, try some stuff and if it still does not work, I'll try to be more specific and see if someone have an idea (if it still does not work that is)16:56
Brian_hey i just did a update and now after a restart the cashew in the corner is gone and my desktop is now a bunch of checkard squares  and i cant right click on the desktop17:02
shadeslayerBrian_: press alt+d and then press =17:06
Brian_i will in a sec im running in recovery mode, i forgot last night when i did the update i got a error maybe a broken dependency17:07
Brian_ok im booting in now17:07
shadeslayerBrian_: its probably that plasma is zoomed out17:08
Brian_i dont think plasma is running17:09
Brian_alt d  didnt do anything17:09
shadeslayerBrian_: you have to press = after that17:10
Brian_in synaptic it says i have 17 broken packages17:10
carpii_in tsclient, theres a vcn option but its disabled. What must I install to enable this option ?17:11
carpii_vnc17:11
Brian_synaptic says i got 17 broken packages  dont you think that has somthing to do with it?17:12
shadeslayerBrian_: :o17:12
shadeslayerBrian_: yes then17:12
Brian_lol17:13
shadeslayerBrian_: youre on 4.3 right?17:13
Brian_how do i fix a broken package17:13
Brian_4.2.317:13
shadeslayerBrian_: run sudo apt-get -f install17:14
Brian_ok17:14
Brian_ok17:15
Brian_done17:15
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shadeslayerBrian_: log out and press alt+E17:17
Brian_oh i just restarted17:17
shadeslayerBrian_: is it working?17:17
Brian_i sec17:17
Brian_illl se17:17
Brian_e17:17
Brian_nope still no cashew and the chackard desktop that i cant click on17:18
shadeslayerBrian_: press alt+F217:20
Brian_ok17:20
shadeslayerBrian_: does anything come up?17:20
Brian_ya17:20
shadeslayerBrian_: type plasma and hit enter17:20
shadeslayerBrian_: did something happeN/17:21
Brian_nothing17:21
shadeslayerBrian_: no cashew too?17:21
Brian_nope17:21
Brian_i clicked on desktop effects and it said compi isnt installed17:23
Brian_so im installing that now17:23
shadeslayerBrian_: compiz?17:23
Brian_ya17:23
shadeslayerBrian_: kde uses kwin17:23
Brian_o17:23
shadeslayerBrian_: open a konsole via alt+F2 and type kwin --replace in the konsole17:24
Brian_should i just do a re install17:24
shadeslayerBrian_: its up to you17:24
shadeslayerBrian_: do you really think a reinstall will solve the problem?17:24
Brian_the desktop blinked and i saw the wallpaper but only for a split second17:25
shadeslayerBrian_: with the kwin command?17:25
Brian_all this happened after i did a update and i got a errer half way threw17:25
Brian_ya17:25
shadeslayerBrian_: ok just type kwin in konsole17:26
Brian_nope17:26
shadeslayerhmm,well just 2 more things and after that im out of ideas17:27
Brian_ok17:27
shadeslayerBrian_: type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a console17:27
Brian_oh hey i think i figured it out17:28
Brian_last night when i did the upgrade it was installing 4.317:28
Brian_i just checked and im running 4.3 now17:29
Brian_how do i downgrade back to 4.2.317:29
shadeslayerBrian_: you cant17:30
shadeslayerBrian_: well theres a way....but if you mess it up,you might have to reinstall17:31
shadeslayerBrian_: remove the KDE 4.3 backports line and remove kubuntu-desktop from a TTY NOT a konsole17:31
cor*Ubuntu installer should create a "spare system" partition automatically, where folk can test upgrades.17:31
shadeslayerBrian_: then install kubuntu-desktop for a 4.2.3 experience17:31
corLinux can boot from extended partition, you could have a dozen OS in there, a hundred!17:32
Brian_well i just opened synaptic and kubuntu-desktop wasnt installed17:32
shadeslayercor: imho there should be a recovery center kind of thing where you press a button and all your files on /home/$user are backed up and the sytem is restored to default17:32
shadeslayerBrian_: then install it :o17:33
coryou could have a "System restore" that actually really worked17:33
coryes!17:33
corOr at least, "yesterday"17:33
corwith HD's as big as they are, and extended partitions being bootable, you could easily snapshot entire systems, create any number of test scenarios. that area of *ubuntu needs work17:34
corget this.. my single user mode check disks option doesn't even attempt to unmount the disks first, and ALWAYS errors. how crazy is that?17:35
Brian_im restarting now i hope that was the problem17:35
Brian_kubuntu desktop is kinda key17:35
shadeslayerBrian_: yeah17:36
shadeslayerBrian_: its a meta-package17:36
shadeslayer!meta-package | Brian_17:36
ubottuBrian_: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.17:36
Brian_wah  still the checkard desktop no cashew17:36
coran umbrella package, sorta17:37
shadeslayerBrian_: ok last attempt17:37
shadeslayerBrian_: type : rm -rf in a tty17:37
shadeslayeroh wait17:37
corcheckered! someone was after that!17:37
shadeslayerBrian_: type : rm -rf ~/.kde in a tty17:37
corsomeone in this channel or another. erm..17:37
corremoving the background in KDE417:37
shadeslayerBrian_: that command will restore all KDE settings17:38
shadeslayerto default17:38
Brian_in a tty??17:39
shadeslayerBrian_: press ctrl+alt+F117:39
shadeslayerBrian_: you have logged out of KDE right?17:40
Brian_ya17:41
Brian_are there spaces in that command17:41
shadeslayerBrian_: rm -rf ~/.kde17:41
shadeslayerBrian_: after rm yes17:42
shadeslayerBrian_: and before ~17:42
Brian_ok now log back in17:42
shadeslayeryep17:42
Brian_ah how17:43
shadeslayerBrian_: what happened?17:44
Brian_i cant login17:44
shadeslayerBrian_: the login manager disappeared?17:45
Brian_brb17:45
shadeslayerokies17:45
cormaybe next time mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old17:46
shadeslayercor: whats the use?17:47
corheh17:47
shadeslayercor: it already wasnt working :P17:47
corthat folder is the source of most trouble, deleting it is good! you're right!17:47
shadeslayerhehe17:48
heoanyone  using "interactive  PHP shell"?17:53
heoHow can you get it to  kubuntu?17:53
heophpsh is not in apt-cache17:54
shadeslayer!phpsh17:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about phpsh17:54
shadeslayernothing in ubottu either17:54
shadeslayer!find phpsh17:54
ubottuFile phpsh found in horde3, nessus-plugins, typo3-src-4.217:54
corphp --ineractive18:02
corexcept spelt right18:02
coror just -a18:02
_marekthi i have a problem with dependencies in gnome-games, here is output: http://pastebin.com/m871a81018:07
_marektsorry, wrogn channel18:07
shadeslayer_marekt: uh #ubuntu ?18:07
firsttimeuser_hi18:09
firsttimeuser_i have trouble getting a usb harddisk detected....18:09
firsttimeuser_http://pastebin.org/924518:10
firsttimeuser_please help18:10
eladh7hello, I need help18:10
eladh7There's someone here?18:12
eladh7I installed ubuntu 9.04 now and I have a problem with viewing Flash content.18:13
eladh7After installing the ubuntu finished, I installed all the updates and installed the latest driver for my graphics card - Hardware drivers.18:13
eladh7The problem is that when I see a flash video on youtube, they work me slow, and can not be watch like this.18:13
eladh7The problem is not only on youtube, are all sites that allow video viewing.18:13
eladh7It should be noted that when I go to youtube for the first time, opened in firefox top bar that said should install Flash to view the Videos.18:13
FloodBotK2eladh7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:13
eladh7In the top bar I had three possible installation of a flash, one of them was - adobe flash, and that I installed.18:13
carpii_heh18:13
shadeslayereladh7: install the flash plugin18:14
shadeslayer!flash | e;18:14
ubottue;: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash18:14
shadeslayer!flash | ela18:14
ubottuela: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash18:14
pronoy!sound > pronoy18:14
ubottupronoy, please see my private message18:14
pronoyguys need help on sound in intrepid..i am getting no sound on the laptop speakers but only on headphones18:18
pronoyguys need help on sound in intrepid..i am getting no sound on the laptop speakers but only on headphones18:18
shadeslayerpronoy: did you see the PM?18:19
cuznt[13:14] <ubottu> pronoy, please see my private message18:19
pronoyshadeslayer : yup18:19
cuzntare the speakers muted?18:19
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shadeslayerpronoy: type alsamixer in a konsole and set everything to high18:19
firsttimeuser_my usb hdd is not getting detected18:20
firsttimeuser_dmesg output18:21
firsttimeuser_http://paste.ubuntu.com/253743/18:21
firsttimeuser_please advice18:21
pronoyshadeslayer: no success,...also do i close the konsole after i have set it to high....i think it may not work if the konsole is closed18:22
wirechieffirsttimeuser are you trying to get your usb hdd detected with virtualbox ?18:22
firsttimeusernope ..please check logs at end.....18:23
shadeslayerpronoy: quit the mixer via :q18:23
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shadeslayerpronoy: uh not q but esc18:24
pronoyshadeslayer: no success still18:25
shadeslayerpronoy: ok in kmixer check all channels and set them to high18:26
pronoydone that18:26
pronoyshadeslayer: done that18:27
pronoyshadeslayer: ??18:30
shadeslayerpronoy: sorry18:32
shadeslayerpronoy: i have no idea18:32
wirechiefpronoy read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting18:33
pronoyguys any idea how to get sound on laptop speakers in intrepid ???18:34
wirechiefdid you read the help at the link i gave pronoy ?18:35
shadeslayerpronoy: paste the output of : lspci | grep Audio18:35
pronoywirechief : yes sir...i did18:36
wirechiefthen what does your alsa info look like ?18:36
pronoyshadeslayer:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)18:36
shadeslayer!ich918:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ich918:36
pronoywirechief: i have analog intel digital and intel analog18:37
pronoywirechief: showing as playback hardware devices18:37
wirechiefpronoy without more information, i am at a loss on how to direct help for your issue.18:38
shadeslayerpronoy: looks like a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/27442418:38
pronoywirechief: let me pastebin aplay -l for you shall i ?18:38
wirechiefi need the alsa info18:38
ravhello. is there an application for power management on jaunty?18:38
shadeslayerpronoy: see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110199318:38
shadeslayerrav: kde i suppose?18:38
shadeslayerrav: press the battery icon in the taskbar18:39
pronoywirechief http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253750/18:39
shadeslayerpronoy: those two links i just gave have the solution....18:40
pronoyshadeslayer: yeah checking them out18:40
Brian_i did the update to 4.3 and messed up my computer no cashew and the desktop is checkardboarded is their a way to downgradeback to 4.2.318:41
wirechiefpronoy you really need to read that help with sound troubleshooting it will tell you how to get the alsa info and give you a lot of other tips besides, you need to know what your codec is and if it is supported then perhaps more help is available.18:41
shadeslayerBrian_: oh hi18:41
shadeslayerBrian_: same problem?18:41
Brian_lol yep18:42
pronoywirechief: on it ..thanks18:43
BlueFaceMonsterNo, Brian_? Surely that's a good thing?! I use IHateTheCashew to get rid of mine :)18:44
shadeslayerBrian_: remove the backports line and remove kubuntu-desktop18:44
Brian_then what18:44
shadeslayerBrian_: then install kubuntu-desktop18:44
shadeslayerBrian_: after updating the sources that is18:44
Brian_ok18:44
Brian_ill try18:45
shadeslayerBrian_: all of the above from  a tty18:45
Brian_ok can you help me do this18:45
shadeslayerBrian_: sure18:45
Brian_shadeslayer: thanks18:45
shadeslayerBrian_: press ctrl+alt+F1 > login18:46
astrocubso, this is random. the computer hasn't been connected to the internet for updates or anything but... my uncle's computer won't login18:46
Brian_ok18:46
astrocubyou login and it just goes back to the kdm startup screen18:46
astrocubwhat's the prob?18:46
shadeslayerBrian_: now sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list18:46
Brian_space between the edit and /18:47
ravis there a power management program in jaunty?18:47
shadeslayerBrian_: yep18:47
shadeslayerrav: i told you....press the battery icon in the taskbar18:47
shadeslayerBrian_: remove the backports line18:48
ravshadeslayer: i got disconnected, didn't see that. i don't have any battery icon on the taskbar. i added a widget to monitor the battery18:48
shadeslayerrav: yeah that one18:48
Brian_ok done18:49
ravshadeslayer: ah, thanks18:49
shadeslayerBrian_: now update the list18:49
shadeslayerBrian_: sudo apt-get update18:49
Brian_how do i exit the list18:49
shadeslayerBrian_: ctrl+x and answer yes to all18:50
shadeslayerBrian_: now the update command18:50
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Brian_ok18:51
Brian_i had to take out like 5-6 backports18:51
Brian_ok its done18:52
shadeslayerBrian_: huh? you need to add just add one line for KDE 4.318:53
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mole42anyone running 9.04 with those 4.3 packages?18:54
mole42i'm havin major issues with the top of my display18:54
Brian_ya i dont know somehow their were 5 of them18:54
shadeslayerBrian_: 0.o18:54
Brian_but eithor way its done with the update18:54
shadeslayerBrian_: hold18:54
shadeslayer!pure gnome18:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pure gnome18:54
shadeslayer!puregnome18:55
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal18:55
shadeslayerBrian_: type :  sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data18:55
Brian_i dont want to remove all kde18:55
shadeslayerBrian_: you will have to18:55
shadeslayerBrian_: the only way you can downgrade18:55
Brian_ok sorry18:55
Brian_then reinstall i got ya18:55
shadeslayerBrian_: after that sudo apt-get autoremove18:56
shadeslayerBrian_: and finally after that : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:56
Brian_ok18:57
shadeslayerBrian_: done all of the steps?18:57
Brian_no18:57
shadeslayeroh ok :)18:57
Brian_that was a in advance ok lol18:57
Brian_i just got a pop up that says configureing kdm18:58
Brian_stop the kdm daemon18:58
shadeslayerBrian_: say yes18:58
Brian_ok18:58
willfayasalut18:59
Brian_just did autoremove18:59
shadeslayerBrian_: also while installing kubuntu-desktop do have a look at the packages being downloaded,they should be 4.2.319:00
Brian_k19:00
Brian_now for the main event19:00
ubsafderhow do i set synaptic to only download to its cache19:00
Brian_install19:00
Brian_no go19:01
Brian_unmet dependencies19:01
shadeslayerubsafder: theres a option to create a script,if you do that itll just create a script and the when you run the script itll just download the files19:01
Brian_kdepasswd  konqueror,19:02
shadeslayerBrian_: i really think you removed more than just the backports line19:02
mole42now19:02
mole42err19:02
mole42i had the sameproblem19:02
mole42just install with -f19:02
FloodBotK2mole42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:02
mole42lol19:02
mole42fuck off19:02
shadeslayerBrian_: sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop19:03
Brian_ok19:03
shadeslayermole42: mind the language19:03
ubsafderonce downloaded how should i install all of them in the "good"order19:03
mole42mind the bot19:03
Brian_nope19:03
shadeslayerubsafder: you can point synaptic to the folder (dont remember how thoug)19:03
shadeslayerBrian_: what happened?19:03
Brian_still  depends kdepasswd konqueror  and konqueror plugin and shortcuts19:04
shadeslayerubsafder: and synaptic autoinstalls all .debs19:04
Brian_e:broken packages19:04
shadeslayerBrian_: can you save a fresh sources.list and replace it with the present one?19:05
darthtuvokwe get all kind of slobs in here19:05
Brian_if i can ya . how do i do that19:05
shadeslayerBrian_: what version of kubuntu?19:05
Brian_find a list online then just copy everything over19:05
shadeslayerBrian_: ill have you wget the .txt file19:06
Brian_linuxmint kde19:06
Brian_but its just kubuntu19:06
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shadeslayerBrian_: you didnt tell me that you had mint!!!19:06
shadeslayer!mint | Brian_19:06
ubottuBrian_: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), crunchbang (support in #crunchbang)19:06
Brian_didnt think it would mater19:07
shadeslayerBrian_: uh i think it would19:07
Brian_they all say goto the kubuntu room for help19:07
darthanubisBrian_: just drop it, "we" are very anal about it:)19:07
Brian_:(19:07
shadeslayerBrian_: im sorry but i cannot help you further,since this is a kubuntu support channel not a mint support channe;19:07
shadeslayer*channel19:08
darthanubisBrian_: never mention mint in channels ubuntu, and NEVER mention ubuntu in debian channels19:08
shadeslayerheh19:08
Brian_holly crap man how am i supose to know about a turf war19:08
Brian_im new to this stuff19:08
darthanubisBrian_: Just lie when they ask you which distro you are running...ok?19:08
Brian_i was19:09
darthanubisMint really has NO support19:09
shadeslayerdarthanubis: no! that could make problems worse19:09
Brian_im really running kubuntu19:09
darthanubisshadeslayer: well that will be his problem19:09
darthanubisand then he would have learned that there is a difference19:09
Brian_you had me uninstall of that and now your going to leave me hangin thats messed up19:09
shadeslayerdarthanubis: no that will be the problem of the person who advised him to do the stuff19:10
darthanubisbut between mint and ubuntu is laughable, between debian and the rest there is a difference that matters, thats all I have to say about that19:10
darthanubisshadeslayer: not in my reality19:10
shadeslayerBrian_: this is your own doing,you told me you had kubuntu19:10
darthanubissee19:10
shadeslayerdarthanubis: you do not live in reality then19:10
darthanubisyou just said it was HIS doing, not yours19:10
darthanubisshadeslayer: ok anon dude, I believe you19:11
shadeslayerdarthanubis: yes,because HE told me he had kubuntu19:11
* darthanubis rolls eyes19:11
shadeslayerBrian_: try with : sudo apt-get -f install19:11
shadeslayerthats all i can do19:11
Brian_everyone in the mint channel said goto kubuntu channel for help  its kubuntu you have19:11
shadeslayerBrian_: tell them you have mint not kubuntu19:12
darthanubisBrian_: slow learner huh? STOP mentioning Mint dude19:12
Brian_mint mint mint mint mint19:12
darthanubislol, idiot19:12
shadeslayerBrian_: last suggestion : since kubuntu offers more support install kubuntu :P19:12
Brian_well shit what does it matter19:12
darthanubis!language19:13
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:13
Brian_sorry19:13
Brian_well can you at lease help me get the source list19:13
darthanubisjust do what the deemer of all reality suggested19:13
shadeslayerBrian_: i was going to give you a ubuntu sources list,but since you have mint i have no idea on their sources.list19:14
Brian_they are the same list  i have ran both and seen both the list i have now says ubuntu and kubuntu on it19:15
shadeslayerBrian_: and yet you say you have mint? this seems all messed up19:15
Brian_they run all of kubuntus repos19:15
Kittykism*** site says compatible with jaunty + repositories19:15
Kittykisfor gloria at least19:15
Brian_thats wat i got19:15
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Brian_thanks kitty19:16
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shadeslayerKittykis: you have ideas to help this guy...be my guest,but not on this channel19:16
Brian_wow man your a a..hole19:16
helpmeplzdoes anyone know a R.A.T that works with wine on linux [preferably reverse connection]19:16
shadeslayerhelpmeplz: did you have look at the appdb?19:17
shadeslayerhelpmeplz: also please get rid of the annoying nick19:17
helpmeplzyuppp, poison ivy doesnt work and thats about all they have19:18
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annoyance_ok done19:18
annoyance_shadeslayer: the appdb only has poison ivy which is not meant to work19:18
shadeslayerannoyance_: 1)Dont know what R.A.T is,2)app db is all i know about19:19
annoyance_ok then your not much use if you dont know what a rat is19:19
annoyance_no offence lol19:19
shadeslayerannoyance_: i dont know what rat is so idk what youre saying :P19:20
annoyance_i know u dunno19:20
shadeslayerannoyance_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat?19:21
annoyance_nope19:21
annoyance_try19:21
annoyance_remote administration tool19:21
annoyance_or remote access tool19:21
annoyance_or remote access trojan19:21
shadeslayerooh19:21
annoyance_etc..19:21
shadeslayer!remote19:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about remote19:21
shadeslayerannoyance_: theres a remote desktop sharing tool in the repos19:22
annoyance_no not that19:22
shadeslayerok19:22
annoyance_all of these rats are for windoze19:22
annoyance_they let u have control over another persons swindoze19:22
shadeslayerannoyance_: never heard of these "tools"19:23
annoyance_i know19:23
* shadeslayer goes and checks out some SVN'x19:25
darthanubisis there a easy way to add feed to akreg. from within FF3.5?19:28
darthanubishttp://benkay.net/blog/2009/04/adding-feeds-to-akregator-from-firefox/19:28
darthanubisBecause using a script for this functionality is lame19:29
shadeslayerdarthanubis: drag and drop?19:29
shadeslayerdarthanubis: also see the RSS Now plasmoid19:29
darthanubisI know about the plasmoid, and it has nada to do with my query.19:30
waltzingalongremote admin tool? you mean ssh? :D landscape?19:30
shadeslayerdarthanubis: ok,try dragging and dropping the feed then19:30
darthanubislol19:30
darthanubisI'm not going to try your totally random shots in the dark19:31
kennethaarHi. How do I connect to my existing session thorugh vnc? I only seem to be able to connect to a strange screen with a console window in the upper left corner. Where I can start different apps, but it is not what I am after . I want to connect to my KDE desktop...What Am i messing up?19:31
darthanubisyou either know or you don't19:31
shadeslayerdarthanubis: ive never used akregattor19:31
waltzingalongkennethaar: you want to vnc client to a running x session? you could use x11vnc to hook to your existing x session, which then allows vnc access to it19:32
J2daoshwhat is the fastest cracker yall know of?19:32
J2daoshJTR?19:32
shadeslayerJ2daosh: cracker?19:32
J2daoshyeah, /etc/shadow19:32
kennethaarwaltzingalong: So I just install x11vnc?19:32
waltzingalong!info x11vnc | kennethaar19:33
ubottukennethaar: x11vnc (source: libvncserver): VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 753 kB, installed size 1580 kB19:33
waltzingalongkennethaar: i also see a link for krfb in my menu but i have not used that19:34
J2daoshim trying to crack a server i got from work that is like 5 years old and they never repurposed19:34
J2daoshso its just been sitting there and they said to take it19:34
J2daoshbut i dont want to do a reformat if i dont have to19:34
J2daoshso i would rather just crack the pw's and go from there19:35
J2daoshif i need to i will reinstall, but they have drivers for the raid an such already installed that i dont have and dont even know the name of to find them19:35
shadeslayerJ2daosh: ah..no idea,try asking in #ubuntu-server too,it wont hurt19:35
rikkardoHi everibody!!19:35
rikkardoAnyone can help me?19:35
shadeslayer!ask | rikkardo19:36
waltzingalong!ask | rikkardo19:36
ubotturikkardo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:36
shadeslayerwaltzingalong: hehe19:36
waltzingalong:D19:36
rikkardoI've some problems with the scripts of nautilus19:36
shadeslayerrikkardo: #ubuntu then19:37
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kennethaarwaltzingalong: krfb was what I was using but with vnc protocol19:37
rikkardoit's ok that I can see the script's menu only when I'm as root?19:37
kennethaarwaltzingalong: sorry I was wrong I was using krdc...19:38
waltzingalong!info krfb | kennethaar19:39
ubottukennethaar: krfb (source: kdenetwork): Desktop Sharing for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 449 kB, installed size 712 kB19:39
snarksterive been trying to get the sensor applet/widget to work.. how do you get that to work?19:40
shadeslayersnarkster: you need lm-sensors19:41
snarksteranyone else been able to get that to work?19:41
shadeslayer!lmsensors | snarkster19:41
ubottusnarkster: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto19:41
snarksterlm-sensors is installed19:41
shadeslayersnarkster: did you run the script to detect the sensors?19:41
snarksterwhat script19:41
shadeslayersnarkster: see the link19:42
shadeslayersnarkster: see steps 2-4 specially19:42
shadeslayerbye all19:44
siddhartahi everyone19:46
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cerezahoooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaa19:49
siddhartaI'm using Kubuntu 8.04.3, connecting a USB hard disk, can't create folder/file with accents (eg. aéíóú) because /etc/.hal-mtab says it is "locale=en_US" and I need to change it so it can be set to "locale=en_US,utf8,locale=en_US.UTF-8"19:49
snarksternope still nothing19:50
siddhartaI know I can add an entry on /etc/fstab but I want to be able just to plug de harddisk, not to mount/umount ... just like the rest of the USB pendrives I connect19:51
siddhartaI have read some forums and they said udev should use UTF8 automatically, but I don't know what to do ...19:52
kennethaarwaltzingalong: x11vnc worked ! Thank you very much..19:52
waltzingalongkennethaar: cheers19:52
baconomaskubuntu en español20:18
timdlhello,im using kubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)20:36
timdlwhen i try to send a file via bluetooth to my phone i get "org.openobex.Error.NotFound"20:37
timdlany way to fix this ?20:37
zoisshello guys. when i boot kubuntu, the mixer settings are restored correctly but a few seconds later volumes are changed (e.g. master volume = 0) ...kmix is set not to change settings at startup ...how can i find out which proc is touching those settings?20:41
anr78What is it that makes Ubuntu automatically locate my Macintosh HD, and how can I make it mount automatically on boot?20:43
mnihi all20:45
mnihow can i install downloaded firefox browser in kubuntu20:45
mniAny help?20:46
mniAny help?20:47
lyhana8hi, why does my ati worked on hardy with the ATI driver and no longer work on jaunty ?20:48
lyhana8plus xorg.conf is empty where are the config then ?20:48
anr78lyhana8: #ati could be a good place to ask20:49
mnii just need the sudo command to install firefox browser:any help?20:49
lyhana8anr78: I think the empty xorg can be part of the issue20:50
lyhana8mni: apt-get install firefox-3.520:50
timdlgetting org.openobex.Error.ServerError when i try to send file to my phone via bluetooth on kubuntu 9.0420:50
mniok20:50
mnithanks20:50
lyhana8mni: or for the 3.0.* : apt-get install firefox20:50
timdlany way to fix this issue ?20:50
mniok20:51
timdlalso unable to send files the other way round20:51
anr78lyhana8: entirely empty, or just a lot smaller than before? I know there has been some changes in X so it is meant to be smaller than before20:51
timdlkdebluetooth is installed20:51
timdlwhat could be causing this ?20:51
lyhana8anr78: empty... I heard from gentoo community that some conf move to /etc/hal20:51
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timdlis this a bug in kbluetooth4 ?20:53
mostafa_timdl: yeah it has bug with sending20:54
timdlmostafa: but im also unable to receive files i send from my phone20:55
timdlany way around these problems ?20:55
mostafa_type bluetooth-sendto in terminal20:56
timdlmostafa_: ok20:56
mostafa_then send a file for checking20:56
timdlmostafa_: typing bluetooth-sendto says command not found20:57
timdlmostafa_: any package i need to install for that ?20:57
timdlmostafa_: i already have kdebluetooth installed, should i also try installing gnome-bluetooth ?20:59
mostafa_timdl: type this sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-gnome bluez21:00
mostafa_yep you must install these21:00
timdlmostafa_: ok21:00
timdlmostafa_: ok21:01
timdlmostafa_: i ran the command "sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-gnome bluez", and after installation , the kdebluetooth icon disappeared from my system tray21:02
mostafa_timdl: np type the bluetooth-sendto21:04
mostafa_does it work?21:04
timdlmostafa_: now after typing bluetooth-sendto i was able to send a file :)21:04
timdlbut still unable to receive21:04
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mostafa_timdl: what happend that you can't recieve?21:06
OceanwatcherAnyone here know how to update Amarok from 2.1 to 2.1.1? I already have Kubuntu-ppa and Kubuntu backports enabled and there is no upgrade offered...21:07
timdlmostafa_: it says "sending failed" on my phone21:08
mostafa_timdl: what do you send file from?21:08
timdlmostafa_: from my E71 phone21:09
timdlvia bluetooth21:09
mostafa_timdl: can you find the pc or labtop with your phone?21:10
timdlmostafa_: yes21:10
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mostafa_timdl: can you reboot maybe it is the cause of that?21:12
timdlmostafa_: ok, ill try that21:12
mostafa_Oceanwatcher: i think maybe it is not yet available with the repository21:17
mostafa_that we add21:17
timdlmostafa_: thanks a lot !! :)....after rebooting im able to receive files over bluetooth from my phone , and to send files am using bluetooth-sendto21:19
timdlthank you very much :)21:19
mostafa_timdl: yw bro glad to hear  you solved your problem21:20
mostafa_:D21:20
timdlmostafa_: all thanks to u :)21:21
mostafa_timdl: my timezone is late around 1:00 AM good luck to you21:23
mostafa_timdl: bye21:23
timdlmostafa_: bye :)21:23
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e370hi21:48
e370anyone in21:49
e370phil21:49
e370:)21:49
xephexxthis is my first time using irc21:55
e370me 2, well via ubuntu anyway21:56
e370whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu22:05
kaddi1e370, ubuntu has gnome as displaymanager and kubuntu has kde as displaymanager22:07
e370they look the same on wiki22:07
kaddi1do you have the links?22:07
e3701 sec22:08
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kaddi1e370, they differ in configurability and the default programs that are installed on your system. (amarok, konqueror, okular against rythmbox, epiphany and evince)22:09
e370rythmbox is on ubuntu22:09
kaddi1yep22:09
e370n yh ur right the desktops r different22:09
e370i was lookin at an older version22:10
e370d'oh22:10
kaddi1:) it might have been a mistake on wikipedia as well. I was just curious22:10
e370i ment kde and kubuntu look alike22:10
kaddi1e370,  yes that's normal, since kde is the displaymanager of kubuntu :)22:11
e370can it be downloded as kde?22:11
e370i dont know which linux to install on my netbook, ubuntu, kde or gnome22:12
e370it has a 8gb hdd22:12
kaddi1e370, ubuntu can be used with either kde or gnome,.22:12
e370lol22:12
e370hope it can be upgraded cos 8gb isnt much22:13
blaubeereI was going to say you can download both and use them alternatingly, but I suppose that is not an optin then22:13
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kaddiI was going to say you can download both and use them alternatingly, but I suppose that is not an optin then22:14
kaddiif you are low on harddiskspace22:14
darthanubisI would say keep reading about your options22:14
e370i mite ask some dumb questions22:14
e370:D22:14
e370can linux be run off a usb flash drive22:14
darthanubisthey are only dumb uf you did not seek knowledge first22:15
darthanubisif22:15
e370my netbook doesnt have a cd/dvd player22:15
darthanubise370: so install from usb22:16
e370thought i could22:16
e370theres a thing here on ubuntu that says usb startup disk creator22:16
mrcognitivecan anyone help me with installing the new adobe flash for ubuntu ?22:16
kaddimrcognitive,  what is the problem?22:17
mrcognitivethe flash i am currently running for firefox is out of date . so now i can not watch any movies . they are al asking for 10. 0 or higher22:17
mrcognitivei went to the adobe flash home page but nothing is compatible with my system i guess .22:18
kadditype "apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer" into your commandline what does it say?22:18
mrcognitiveone sec22:19
e370is mine upto date22:19
e370Installed: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.122:19
e370  Candidate: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.122:19
e370  Version table:22:19
e370 *** 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1 022:19
FloodBotK2e370: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:19
e370oops22:19
e370how noobish of me22:19
kaddie370, that looks up to date22:20
e37032GB pen drive should be enough to run linux off right?22:20
kaddimuch more then enough :p22:21
e370neat22:21
darthanubisnobody believes in teaching a man HOW to fish instead of spoon feeding him the fish anymore?22:21
e370i love fishing :D22:21
e370i lernt by trial n error22:21
mrcognitive Installed: (none)22:21
darthanubisthe keyword there being trial22:21
mrcognitive  Candidate: (none)22:21
mrcognitive  Version table:22:21
mrcognitiveW: Unable to locate package installer22:22
mrcognitivemrcognitive@ubuntu:~$22:22
mrcognitivethis is what has showed up22:22
kaddimrcognitive, have you installed a flash alternative like gnash or swdfec on your system?22:22
e370darthanubis: yes im noobish to most things22:22
mrcognitiveyou mean a plug in for firefox ?22:22
darthanubise370: I'm not talking about anyone specific I'm just saying22:23
kaddiyeah, what flash have you been using so far?22:23
mrcognitiveat first i was running flashplayer none free22:23
e370mrcognitive: applications > add/remove > search adobe , tick, apply ;)22:23
e370installed22:23
e370:)22:23
kaddiyes, that would be the adobe plugin22:24
darthanubispeople need to learn how to use there systems. Like driving a car or anything else one does.22:24
mrcognitiveusing a computer is nothing like driving a car22:24
e370using linux isn't lol22:24
darthanubisso you have to at least know how to read your documentation and at the very least how to use a search engine22:24
xenthraldont linux and drive22:24
xenthralgood friends keep friends from sudoing while drunk22:24
darthanubismrcognitive: sure it is22:25
kaddilol22:25
e370not like linux comes with a manual22:25
e370...22:25
darthanubise370: comes with plenty manuals22:25
darthanubisyou know like man apt?22:25
e370where?22:25
darthanubistype it22:25
e370ive found none so far22:25
kaddicommand line22:25
darthanubisman apt22:25
darthanubisgeez my point exactly22:26
darthanubisat least get a linux book from the library22:26
darthanubisif your real lazy like me, read about it online using GOOGLE22:26
e370or amazon22:26
e370:)22:26
kaddimrcognitive,  what did you do after you "first used" flashplugin-nonfree?22:26
darthanubisyour like 1 sec away from being informed if you have broadband22:26
e370eh?22:27
darthanubison ANY subject22:27
e370yes i told u22:27
e370i am noobish22:27
kaddiand half of the information is incorrect or incomplete22:27
darthanubisdon't waste your monthly subcription living in the dark ages22:27
e370ive used windows upp till now22:27
kaddior outdated22:27
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mrcognitivewhen i first installed it it was through the terminol , i upgraded the cpu and for some reason none of it worked22:27
darthanubisthere is nothing too outdated to tell you you need to install applications for functionality22:27
mrcognitivealso , there is no such program located under add/ remove22:28
darthanubis!flash22:28
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:28
darthanubismrcognitive: follow that link and the instructions to the letter22:28
e370should be :S22:28
e370i found it earlier22:28
darthanubis!install22:29
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:29
darthanubise370: you read that22:29
e370thanks22:29
darthanubisnp22:29
e370does it print out22:29
darthanubisI'm here to help, but don't waste our time. We are volunteers:) I'm being funny, take no offense.22:29
darthanubisBut seriously though...don't waste my time:-P22:30
* abalone advertises Christopher Negus' and Francois Caen's book Ubuntu Linux Toolbox 22:30
kaddisee and that link assumes that no gnash or swefdec is installed..22:30
e370im trying not to lol22:30
darthanubisThere is a free pdf online about ubuntu22:30
e370just have no idea about ubuntu22:30
e370u can help me22:31
e370on a few things22:31
e370if u wish22:31
e370:)22:32
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kaddi!eol22:32
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases22:32
StupidWeasel[amsg] Bored & going to find something fun to do. Goodnight folks.22:32
e370darth you there?22:32
darthanubise370: I already helped you, read. Search and then read some more. THEN ask informed questions22:32
e370i know but that doesnt cover my questions22:33
e370:P22:33
darthanubisThat is how you fish!22:33
darthanubisYou don't HAVE ANY INFORMED questions.22:34
e370yes i do22:34
darthanubis;)22:34
e370:D22:34
darthanubisshoot22:34
e370ok i was using a wired network and it was fine for about 30-40 mins, then a thing showed up and said the network has been disconnected, ever since its showing up as disconnected but the wires are plugged in and working fine22:35
e370kaddi?22:39
kaddie370, I don't know what the problem might be, but as long as it works, I wouldn't bother too much about it :)22:40
e370it doesnt thoe22:41
e370im connected via wireless22:41
e370i wanted wired network because im quite far from the router n theres alot of interferance22:41
kaddiI'm sorry I'm exclusively using wireless, so I don't know much about lan... have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting the cable? :p22:42
e370yea22:42
e370even got a new 122:42
e370lol22:42
SerpardumI'm (still) confused by this.  In my C++ I'm using the asm code: outb %b0, %w1   and outl %0,%w1.  However, when I look in my Intel manual, they have only OUT, not outb or outl.  I want to out a 16 bit value, I can guess it would be outw but that's a guess.  What manual/document am I missing?22:43
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abalonehttp://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/manual/253665.pdf mentions outw (output word)22:46
Serpardumahhh, thanks.  I was looking in Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual Volume 2B Instruction Set Reference N-Z22:49
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abaloneI really haven't a clue about this, I just went to ask.com and said "intel manual assembler outw" ;)22:49
abalonepage 225, chapter 7.3.1122:49
Serpardumthere are 8 different manuals ^^22:50
SerpardumI have them all DLed22:50
abalonethe one I found was the top search result22:50
SerpardumI was trying google22:50
Serpardumgoogling wrong.  Didn't think to add intel manaul22:50
Serpardum*manual22:50
abaloneIntel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures22:51
abaloneSoftware Developer’s Manual22:51
SerpardumHmm. it mentions OUTB, OUTW and OUTD but I'm using outb, outw and outl.  (L instead of D).22:52
SerpardumI just want to make sure it's tryign to write the correct number of bits ^^22:52
abaloneI can't help you with that, I'm just a search engine operator ;)22:53
Serpardumyeah, outl is not in there22:54
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lifeofguenterhi all23:27
lifeofguenterusing the new kubuntu 9.10 alpha, was just wondering, has anyone set multiple monitors with that yet?23:27
lifeofguenterunder system settings -> display -> multiple monitors there is just a message saying basically I do not have it configured23:28
lifeofguenterbut how/where can I configure it?23:28
abaloneI've always configured monitors in xorg.conf...23:32
CoJaBo-AztecKubuntu >8.4 seems to handle more than one pretty badly.23:33
lifeofguenterabalone: me too.. but since 9.10 there is not even a xorg.conf existing23:34
abalonewha....what?23:34
abaloneoh no23:34
abalonewhere am I going to set my game- and emulation-friendly metamodes?23:35
lifeofguenterI used to use xrandr since 8.04 (though under gnome/xfce)23:35
zch-rswhen i download an application  as an archive, how do i get it to show up in my applications menu?23:35
lifeofguenterwell usually you don't need messing up with the xorg.conf anyway.. especially if you are going with xrandr23:35
lifeofguenterbut I would just like to go the "kde-way" when using multple monitor23:36
abaloneI've never used that, l_o_guenter23:36
abaloneand I'm not using KDE only23:36
lifeofguenterreally not? what version of kde / ubuntu are you using?23:36
abalone9.04 KDE 4.323:36
lifeofguenterand you still mess around with the xorg.conf?23:37
abaloneI don't mess around with it, I just use it23:37
lifeofguenter:)23:37
abaloneunlike krandr it doesn't crash X23:37
abaloneor give me a 1600 pixel desktop at a 1400 pixel resolution23:38
eitreach_I'm having some problems with Amarok 2. It won't play mp3s, and says that pulseaudio isn't working. When I test them however, it works fine. Just not in amarok. Any suggestions?23:39
abaloneguenter, what would be the "new" way to get dual monitors for me? (nvidia)23:41
lifeofguenterif you are lucky and your card is supported by oss-drivers23:41
lifeofguenteryou could try xrandr.. - but I have no idea how this works on kde.. i am comming from gnome/xfce23:42
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lucaciao23:44
lucaa chi posso chiedere una informazione?23:44
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macoluca: #ubuntu-it23:45
luca#ubuntu-it23:45
macoluca: por italiano23:46
lifeofguenter:D23:46
abalonemy card is supported by the proprietary "nvidia" driver, and I'm using what I suppose is a proprietary nVidia "method" - called TwinView. There's "krandrtray" but it only lets me switch between modes already configured in xorg.conf. I can't set anything up with it, it seems. I can do that with the nvidia-settings tool (which will write to xorg.conf, so that's nothing new either)23:46
macolifeofguenter: do you speak italian?23:46
macolifeofguenter: im just going "umm..i dont think they used para like in spanish when i was there...ummm..."23:46
lucamercy23:47
macoluca: mercy = grazi?23:47
lifeofguentermaco: no..23:47
macolifeofguenter: oh went :D so i was wondering if you were laughing at my attempt to guess how to say "for"23:47
lifeofguentermaco: hehe no no I was just "smiling" seeing he posted the irc-chan instead of actually entering it23:48
macolifeofguenter: oh ok23:49
kaddi1hi, i'm updating from gutsy to hardy right now and the guide in the end says to run "sudo do-release-upgrade" that command returns "no new version found" though, I'm wondering if I did something wrong?23:49
kaddi1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#7.10%20to%208.04%20%28Gutsy%20to%20Hardy%29 that's the instructions I'M following23:49
macokaddi1: lsb_release -a23:50
macokaddi1: you may be done23:50
kaddi1maco that still says gutsy23:50
macokaddi1: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list23:51
SerraphynHi guys23:51
kaddi1maco what has me confused is that the guide says to update the sources.list, and then immediately runs do-release-update , no apt-get update or anything23:51
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macokaddi1: thats not right23:51
eitreach_This is strange.. When I use "Files" in Amarok 2, sound works nicely.. But when I try from my collection, it doesn't.23:51
macokaddi1: do-release-upgrade edits sources.list for you. it probably is looking at sources.list and going "oh, already at lts. BAIL!"23:51
macokaddi1: put it back to gutsy then run "sudo do-release-upgrade" and it shoudl change sources.list and upgrade you all in one23:52
mozillohello world23:52
kaddi1ok, maco, I'm just mentioning that here, because this is the guide linked in !eolupgrade.23:53
macokaddi1: whoever typed it screwed up maybe...23:53
Serraphynanyone here able to help me get decent video quality in kde? I am using SIS framebuffer23:53
kaddi1maco it has you run a perlscript replacing gutsy with hardy, then running do_release_upgrade and then saying that one is finished. So it might need some editing23:54
macokaddi1: do-release-upgrade should be the only thing required23:54
macokaddi1: oh!23:55
macokaddi1: i see. i thought youd changed "gutsy" to "hardy" all over...hmm that old-releases thing isnt something ive seen before23:55
macokaddi1: ok just read the whole thing now :P after you have gutsy all the way up to date, it should be changed back to not having old-releases, but you shouldnt change gutsy to hardy throughout the file because then itll confuse do-release-upgrade, i think23:57

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