[00:00] <BigBuzzard> user name is router name wrt54xxx or somthing and psword is admin
[00:01] <cor> I'd help, noobstian, but I've set the scrollback to a rediculously low level and (so) I can't see what your original problem was. Could you rephrase it into a few words?
[00:01] <noobstian> hello, I just installed ubuntu jaunty for the first time on my compaq presario cq40 laptop, and i'm having some trouble, i'm only able to connect to thee wireless connection on gnome and theres no sound onthe computr, i just installed the kubuntu-desktop and now when i logged onto gnome theres an icon on the desktop that says home.desktop and i'm afraid to erase it
[00:04] <Zxcvb> can you install koffice 2.0.1 without installing kde 4.3?
[00:04] <cor> noobstian, in reality, hardware either works, and you get on with sh*t, or it doesn't and you do some WORK, getting it to work. Are you ready for that?
[00:05] <cor> as for the desktop file, delete that, if you really must. but ask yourself, "Do I really need to delete this file?"
[00:05] <noobstian> yes
[00:06] <noobstian> as in i want to make it work
[00:06] <cor> is that yes to the you beaing ready to WORK, read through manuals, learn shell commands and all that?
[00:06] <noobstian> yes
[00:06] <cor> good man! (or woman)
[00:06] <noobstian> penis
[00:06] <Zuz|GoPats> i keep getting firefox 3.5 updates everyday  :(
[00:07] <cor> In your shoes, my first port of call would be google. Check to see if someone else has the *exact* same setup as you. There is a high chance of this. Use Google Linux.
[00:07] <Zxcvb> cor: yeah, getting a toshiba nb205 working was a pain
[00:07] <cor> but your pain can save someone elses!#
[00:07] <cor> many many people's
[00:08] <noobstian> ok im on google linux
[00:08] <cor> thank the lord for search engines!
[00:08] <noobstian> what am i looking for here
[00:08] <cor> just google your exact model number, and ubuntu
[00:08] <cor> then, if nothing looks good, try without the ubuntu
[00:09] <noobstian> for the modem or the laptop?
[00:09] <Zxcvb> cor: had to use the omnibook module and brute force the ectype option (ectype=12, finally) to get bluetooth working as well as enable wifi without windows (software killswitch problem)
[00:09] <Zuz|GoPats> noobstian: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[00:09] <cor> then get specific, adding terms for your hardware, using the exact strings you see in dmesg
[00:09] <cor> ouch!
[00:09] <Zuz|GoPats> be back later
[00:09] <noobstian> i installed ubuntu then kubuntu desktop but now im on gnome
[00:10] <cor> My other laptop is flawless in all distros. It's cuz it's a cheap laptop, I guess, a lot of them around. Linux is always painless on it. On this thing. Pfff!
[00:10] <noobstian> i only got one result
[00:10] <noobstian> for a different model
[00:10] <noobstian> http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-78886-installing-ubuntu-linux-in-compaq-cq40-133tu
[00:10] <noobstian> the first four digitsof the model are the same tho
[00:11] <cor> Okay, better than nuffink. Check for relevant info. If not, you'll want to skip ubuntu references and just aim for your hardware on Linux.
[00:11] <BigBuzzard> im new to irc. how do i find and log on to other chats
[00:11] <cor> BigBuzzard, depends on the client
[00:11] <Zxcvb> cor: took a few days to figure out I needed the omnibook module (it worked for a different toshiba laptop, so I just guessed it might work, even though nobody had tried it on that system
[00:12] <cor> BigBuzzard, inside you home folder in .NameOfClient/logs is a good bet
[00:12] <Zxcvb> cor: I still haven't gotten sound working out of the speaker (headphones work, though)
[00:12] <Zxcvb> cor: the wiki still says the only way to get wifi to work is to enable it with ctrl-f8 in doze, though
[00:12] <cor> Everything we do, so long as it's documented somewhere, is worth it. Keep at it, dude!
[00:13] <Zxcvb> cor: any idea how you would edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks/ToshibaNB205?
[00:14] <noobstian> cor: the rest of the results when taking ubntu out were just adds
[00:15] <cor> noobstian,  Well, that's always a good place to start! It looks like you're going to have to get generic!
[00:15] <noobstian> ok...
[00:15] <cor> Zxcvb, dunno. I've not visited. I'll check it out.
[00:15] <noobstian> what should i look for now
[00:16] <cor> Looks like you need to be logged in to see edit controls
[00:16] <Zxcvb> cor: ok, I'll make an account later
[00:16] <Zxcvb> cor: my info is on the forum post for the nb205 currently
[00:17] <noobstian> im not logged in?
[00:17] <cor> noobstian, which piece of hardware you want working first?
[00:17] <cor> noobstian, that was for Zxcvb
[00:17] <noobstian> the laptop?
[00:17] <noobstian> i mean
[00:17] <noobstian> the sound
[00:17] <noobstian> sound card?
[00:17] <FloodBotK2> noobstian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <cor> right, which sound card is it?
[00:17] <noobstian> how do i check that on a terminal?
[00:17] <cor> I usually start with dmesg
[00:18] <noobstian> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1530013
[00:20] <cor> woah!
[00:21] <noobstian> *reading through that data*
[00:22] <cor> No obvious sign of sound card
[00:22] <noobstian> there was sound when i had vista i swear
[00:22] <cor> did you say you get sound in your headphones?
[00:22] <noobstian> no no, on the laptops speakers
[00:22] <cor> huh?
[00:23] <noobstian> i swear, it came with vista on it and it had sound
[00:23] <cor> sure, but this isn't Vista
[00:23] <noobstian> sure
[00:23] <cor> On Ubuntu, do you get sound from *anywhere*?
[00:23] <noobstian> nope
[00:23] <cor> k
[00:24] <cor> noobstian, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706/+viewstatus
[00:25] <cor> You should post there
[00:27] <noobstian> cor, so what do i do, to post there?
[00:27] <noobstian> and what od i post?
[00:27] <noobstian> that's exactly my problem yes
[00:28] <cor> well, it's not just that dude, it's also you. So if you post, the status may shift to bug, and something get done
[00:31] <noobstian> cor, i alreqdy signed up
[00:32] <noobstian> how do i post in that thread
[00:32] <cor> you gotta sign up first I think
[00:32] <cor> everyone wants a sign-up
[00:32] <noobstian> i signed up
[00:33] <cor> Doh! I just noticed you already did
[00:33] <cor> all those years in the darkroom, red text is wonky
[00:33] <cor> can't you just post, then? You logged in?
[00:34] <noobstian> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706 here?
[00:34] <noobstian> what do i post? i dont want to sound like a know nothing schmuck
[00:34] <noobstian> i have the same problem?
[00:35] <cor> pretty much, yeah. and don't worry about sounding foolish, I never let it stop me
[00:36] <cor> you'll also want to look at the three outputs he provided, and do the two you haven't yet done
[00:36] <noobstian> ok i just posted
[00:36] <cor> and in there, look for the exact model of your sound card so you can, in the meantime, get yours working
[00:37] <cor> inside the two output files, I mean.
[00:37] <noobstian> so do i type lsmod into the terminal?
[00:37] <cor> yup: sudo lsmod
[00:38] <cor> a couple of links for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:38] <cor> actually, that'll do for now. ;o)
[00:39] <cor> also, seriously, have you asked on #ubuntu? there might be a CQ40 owner there!
[00:39] <noobstian> cor http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1530030
[00:42] <noobstian> just asked in there
[00:43] <EagleScreen> is there in repository any web development application? something similar to Frontpage?
[00:45] <cor> woah! another list! I see sound modules loaded, so it must have picked up your sound card. Is it not listed in the system preferences? I can't be specific cuz I don't know gnome
[00:45] <cor> EagleScreen, yes, a few.
[00:45] <cor> a "wysiwyg" editor
[00:45] <noobstian> on my system preferences?
[00:46] <noobstian> hold on
[00:46] <cor> I dunno what Gnome calls it, in KDE it would be system settings
[00:46] <noobstian> default mixer tracks
[00:46] <noobstian> and there's a dropdown list
[00:46] <cor> EagleScreen, do a search in your package manager. I can't recommend one or another, but I know there's a few
[00:47] <noobstian> on the devices
[00:47] <cor> noobstian, I'd mess around in there for a while before recompiling drivers
[00:47] <noobstian> like pick different options of everything and ttest for sound?
[00:48] <eitreach> Hello. I have problems with sound in flash movies, running Ubuntu 9.04 with KDE 4.3. Is there a common solution to this?
[00:48] <cor> yeah, switch everything! try different players, that sorta thing.
[00:49] <wirechief> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting   <<< thats a good link for checking out your sound
[00:49] <eitreach> I wouldn't know what to look for. It works fine in Gnome, and  Amarok works fine as well.
[00:52] <noobstian> cor: none of them work
[00:52] <cor> eitreach, is that flv files?
[00:52] <noobstian> pulseaudio, alsa, oss, etc
[00:52] <cor> weird
[00:53] <eitreach> cor: yeah.
[00:53] <cor> although I've had no problems, I often hear people recommending folk uninstall pulseaudio.
[00:54] <cor> brb
[00:55] <cor_occupied> got guests I gotta erm, handle, hopefully bbl
[00:56] <noobstian> AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!1
[00:57] <takoski> ahi
[01:11] <w00ly> Hello, can anyone tell me where to find the amd k8 2.6.30 kernel? Is there such a thing? Is it any better than the generic i386?
[01:12] <w00ly> anyone here?
[01:57] <edu> i have problem with sound in ubuntu 9.04 with sdlmame
[01:57] <edu> it is noisy in games
[01:57] <edu> any ideas?
[02:47] <maxie> how do i changes the keybord input??? because like when / button & is show on screen
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> maxie- check System Settings -> Regional & Language
[03:05] <mwadeKS> is there any difference in a file version name that ends with *ppa5 from one that ends with *ppa4 ?
[03:05] <mwadeKS> or are they the same file from two different repositories only?
[03:10] <mwadeKS> is there anyone here that can see me?
[03:11] <mwadeKS> I wish you all a good night.
[03:13] <J-_> Does anyone know the command to start wicd up at startup in ~/.kde/Autostart?
[03:15] <J-_> what path does wicd install at? Or at least the executable?
[03:25] <areski> olá!
[03:26] <areski> hello!
[03:43] <J3ster_> can any one help me out with changing my hdd's linux file persissions and ownership, i have read the chmod & chwon man pages but this hasd not sorted me problem
[03:44] <J3ster_> my media folder with a ls -l looks like this -
[03:44] <J3ster_> drwx------ 9 craig root 32768 1970-01-01 12:00 BACK-UP DRV
[03:44] <J3ster_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   999     6 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom -> cdrom0
[03:44] <J3ster_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root   999  4096 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom0
[03:44] <J3ster_> drwxrwxrwx 1 root  root 16384 2009-08-14 17:09 Storage
[03:44] <FloodBotK2> J3ster_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <J3ster_> i just want to be able to out the Storage hdd back into my windows 2k3 server and be able to make changes, at present with the linux permissions messing everything up it keeps giving me a permission denied reply
[04:12] <gilson> www.terra.com.br
[04:19] <abhilash> good moring all i a abhilash
[04:20] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:20] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:20] <abhilash> sound is not proper
[04:21] <abhilash> plz help
[04:22] <J3ster_> this channel sux hard, you waisting your time if you want any help
[04:22] <J3ster_> boo this channel
[04:23] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:23] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:23] <abhilash> sound is not proper
[04:43] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:43] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:43] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:43] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:43] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:43] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:43] <FloodBotK2> abhilash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:43] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:43] <abhilash> My laptop is HP compaq CQ45-124TX.
[04:43] <abhilash> It will always repeats the last piece of sound.
[04:43] <abhilash> sound is not proper
[04:48] <abhilash> hello sir  plz help any one  . In my compaq cqq 45 system not getting sound how to edit audio source file in /etc/
[04:49] <abhilash> Compaq presario CQ45
[04:50] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[05:03] <puff_> !ru
[05:05] <puff_> Where can i download Adobe Flash for my x64 system?
[05:06] <bastidrazor> abhilash,
[05:07] <pheonix>  hi can anyone help me changing the desktop background
[05:07] <abhilash> hello sir bastidrazor
[05:08] <abhilash> can u help me ?
[05:19] <FireFly10> Hi people I suddenly find that I can't unlock my taskbar. Is there anyway to fix that?
[05:20] <FireFly10> hello
[05:52] <heo> What is wrong?  find . -type f -exec 'sed -i ...
[05:52] <heo> ... "s#eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee#queries#g"' '{}' \;
[05:53] <heo> find . -type f -exec 'sed -i "s#a#queries#g"' '{}' \;
[05:53] <heo> sorry about the former, hard to read.
[05:54] <heo> I try to replacee every a in every file of the dir-tree
[05:54] <heo> *a = a alphabet
[06:43] <yamishi> does anyone knows how to make a miniscript that pings google and if it is unable to connect restarts the network?
[06:44] <yamishi> i have a rough idea about almost all
[07:01] <Adys> Hi all. I tried to update my nvidia drivers to 190.x but didn't do it cleanly... now after hours of messing with command line, I finally got back to kdm
[07:02] <Adys> problem is, kdm logs in fine, but it just "stays still" at the blue default wallpaper, nothing else starts
[07:02] <Adys> any hint what could be causing it?
[07:03] <mrh0057__> Look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and see if there are any error messages
[07:03] <Adys> I dont think ive seen any last time lemme check again
[07:04] <mrh0057__> The file is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:05] <Adys> http://pastebin.com/m66a27218
[07:05] <Adys> full file
[07:05] <Adys> xorg.conf is the one generated by nvidia's installer
[07:05] <Adys> (i downgraded back to 185.18.30)
[07:09] <mrh0057__> look at ~/.xsession-errors to
[07:09] <Adys> checking
[07:10] <Adys> nothing special, just Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[07:10] <Adys> I don't think its xorg
[07:10] <Adys> but I don't know what else
[07:10] <mrh0057__> .kde may have been corrupted
[07:11] <Adys> i rm -rf'd it
[07:11] <Adys> .kderc too
[07:13] <Adys> Any idea what could reset whatever it is kdm is supposed to start?
[07:14] <mrh0057__> no I never tried to reset kdm before
[07:16] <mrh0057__> You can try to restart it and if that doesn't work you can try restarting the machine
[07:16] <Adys> i restarted it like 10 times
[07:16] <mrh0057__> have you tried logging in as a different user?
[07:16] <Adys> hmm no actually
[07:16] <Adys> good idea
[07:18] <Adys> same results
[07:18] <Adys> grr
[07:19] <theadmin> Menu editor acts weirdly. I add some stuff, then it goes all "Upgrading system configuration", and it keeps doing this forever. (it resets when reaches 100%)
[07:20] <mrh0057__> Adys I don't know what else it could be unless there is a permission error
[07:20] <Adys> ran a chown -r on ~
[07:21] <mrh0057__> Did you create a new user account and try to login
[07:21] <Adys> yes just now, same result
[07:21] <Adys> however the temp user definitely gets logged in from kdm
[07:21] <Adys> it just doesnt start anything like the other
[07:21] <mrh0057__> yeah it will just be the defaults
[07:22] <Adys> yep but this must be system-wide then
[07:22] <Adys> isnt there some sort of system daemon manager in kde?
[07:22] <Adys> i remember messing with that a while ago
[07:22] <mrh0057__> kwin is the new manager
[07:23] <Adys> I mean a system-wide service editor
[07:23] <mrh0057__> the /etc/init.d/kdm is the dameon
[07:23] <Adys> ya but i thought there was a services manager
[07:24] <mrh0057__> I don't know if there is a default one but you can use sysv-rc-conf
[07:26] <Adys> ah great
[07:26] <mrh0057__> Do you have any unreachable nfs mounted
[07:28] <Adys> mrh0057__: Nope
[07:29] <pheonix> how do i add an application to run once i log into kubuntu
[07:30] <mrh0057__>  /notice Adys sorry I don't think I can help you further.  I'm out of ideas of what it can be
[07:30] <pheonix> i mean is there something called startup menu
[07:31] <theadmin> what is a good tool to mount .iso's?
[07:33] <mrh0057__> pheonix - there is no startup menu in kde
[07:33] <pheonix> then how do i manage it
[07:33] <mrh0057__> theadmin - you can mount iso with mount
[07:34] <theadmin> mrh0057, like, "mount /home/theadmin/file.iso /mnt/isodrive"?
[07:35] <mrh0057__> Here is a link explaining it http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[07:38] <mostafa> hello there I have a problem
[07:39] <mostafa> when I shutdown or restart it doesn't do them and just stop for me
[07:39] <mrh0057__> pheonix - put the scripts you wont to start in $HOME/.kde/Autostart
[07:39] <mostafa> to press alt+ctrl+del
[07:41] <pheonix> mrh0057__: how do i restart my kde
[07:42] <mrh0057__> pheonix /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:42] <mostafa> raphink: can you help me bro?
[07:43] <mrh0057__> mostafa: does it give you an halt message when you shutdown instead of powering off
 error Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).
[07:43] <pheonix> Not starting K Display Manager (kdm); it is not the default display manager.
[07:44] <mrh0057__> is gdm your default?
[07:44] <pheonix> i think so
[07:44] <mrh0057__> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:45] <mrh0057__> pheonix: try removing every hidden file and directory that starts with .g in your home folder
[07:46] <pheonix> mrh0057: have to leave will talk later bye
[07:52] <mostafa> mrh0057__: I just go and check it for you again
[07:53] <ulaas> i hate firefox deps on ubuntu
[07:53] <ulaas> even esound....geeeeez
[07:53] <mostafa> mrh0057__: when i want to restart it says "will now restart"
[07:54] <mostafa> and when i press alt+ctrl+del
[07:54] <mostafa> mrh0057__:  it says "md:stopping all md devices"
[07:54] <mrh0057__> mostafa: that means it is shutting down
[07:55] <mostafa> the difference between restart and shutdown is just
[07:55] <mrh0057__> mostafa: it could have a problem releasing a device and get stuck
[07:56] <mrh0057__> mostafa: there is little difference between shutdown and restart in what runs
[07:56] <theadmin> Oh, about that... When i shut down, it says the following stuff:
[07:56] <theadmin> *Will now halt
[07:56] <theadmin> *Could not iterate IDE devices: No such file or directory
[07:56] <mostafa> what should I do then? I think it is because of RAID system but I don't want it and I don't know how to remove it
[07:57] <mrh0057__> theadmin - it means your computer acpi system probably not supported to shutdown the computer
[07:58] <mostafa> how could I understand it supports or not?
[07:58] <mrh0057__> theadmin - I mean power off.  All the services will shutdown
[07:58] <theadmin> uh wha? No, it shuts down normally.
[07:59] <theadmin> Except this error
[07:59] <mrh0057__> mostafa - I don't have much experience with software raids
[08:00] <mrh0057__> theadmin - could be an error with udev
[08:00] <mrh0057__> theadmin- are you using any ide drives?
[08:00] <mostafa> mrh0057__: I think it is the cause of that :D
[08:01] <theadmin> mrh0057_, i have NO idea what those are
[08:02] <theadmin> uh
[08:02] <theadmin> Something's wrong with firefox
[08:02] <theadmin> All my bookmarks have dissappeared. And also, it does not show anything in address bar when i open any page
[08:03] <mrh0057__> mostafa: do a search on google.  There should be a log somewhere for the software raid
[08:03] <theadmin> And it opens mozilla.org, even though google.com is my homepage.
[08:03] <zoiss> hey guys. i have still trouble with my startup mixer settings. the master volume is set to the desired value first (like alsactl restore) but after some seconds it switches to 0. kmix is set to NOT load startup values so there has to be another proc that is changing the mixer settings. does anyone have any ideas?
[08:04] <theadmin> guess i'll reboot. Will most likely solve it, firefox acts weird sometimes.
[08:17] <theadmin> What's wrong with the forums?
[08:26] <theadmin> Sigh. I have a problem and nobody can help me... is there a firefox support channel or something? Cause it's serious.
[08:27] <theadmin> Never mind :D found it.
[08:41] <Firefishe> I'm using kde 4.2.4, I'm assuming compositing is on.  Each time I use Firefox, after a bit of browsing, suddenly my scrollbar locks up, then the screen start artificating something fierce.  What might be going on here?
[08:41] <Firefishe> starts artifacting
[09:03] <oliveraa1ango> xchat
[09:04] <oliveraa1ango> hi
[09:04] <oliveraa1ango> just new to this IRC in ubunut environment
[09:04] <oliveraa1ango> need help ... appreciate any response
[09:05] <mostafa> hi
[09:05] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: r u there?
[09:06] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: y don't u say your prob?
[09:06] <oliveraa1ango> hi
[09:06] <oliveraa1ango> yes im online
[09:07] <oliveraa1ango> just new to ubuntu env ... is there any similar IE for ubuntu os?
[09:07] <mostafa> Interner Explorer you mean
[09:07] <mostafa> ?
[09:07] <oliveraa1ango> is there a YM or GTalk look alike IM in ubuntu?
[09:08] <oliveraa1ango> yap, mostafa...
[09:08] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: try firefox :-)
[09:08] <mostafa> firefox and pidgin
[09:08] <oliveraa1ango> Location please, mostafa?
[09:08] <oliveraa1ango> hi rysh
[09:08] <oliveraa1ango> but im in ubuntu pc server
[09:09] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: i think Pidgin can also use gtalk
[09:09] <mostafa> firefox for your browser and pidgin or kopete for your messenger
[09:09] <oliveraa1ango> is firefox built-in in ubuntu server?
[09:09] <mostafa> rysh: yeah it can
[09:09] <oliveraa1ango> how can i use it?
[09:09] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: isn't ubuntu server only console ?
[09:09] <oliveraa1ango> how to do it mostafa?
[09:10] <oliveraa1ango> rysh, yes ... im in my newly installed ubuntu pc server
[09:10] <oliveraa1ango> hi promulo
[09:10] <mostafa> type "sudo apt-get install pidgin firefox" in terminal
[09:10] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: then run them
[09:10] <mostafa> :D
[09:10] <oliveraa1ango> mostafa, i can do it in this irc?
[09:11] <mostafa> open terminal
[09:11] <oliveraa1ango> sudo apt-get install pidgin firefox
[09:11] <oliveraa1ango> ops ... ok through terminal ...
[09:11] <mostafa> yeah type this through terminal
[09:11] <oliveraa1ango> im more familiar with windows env
[09:12] <oliveraa1ango> how can i open terminal if im in thi irc?
[09:12] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: you just change the environment?
[09:12] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: what program you use for IRC
[09:13] <shanali4> How to open my computer in kubuntu
[09:13] <oliveraa1ango> hmmmm... got lost how i entered ... xchat?
[09:13] <shanali4> How to open my computer in kubuntu
[09:13] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: press "alt+f2" then type terminal
[09:13] <oliveraa1ango> hi shanali
[09:13] <shanali4> Hi
[09:13] <shanali4> I M new to linux
[09:14] <shanali4> Plz help How to open my computer in kubuntu
[09:14] <mostafa> you can explore your hard drive through konqueror,dolphin,terminal
[09:15] <oliveraa1ango> got lost with Alt+F2
[09:15] <shanali4> Their is no C:, D:, E: drives
[09:15] <shanali4> plz help
[09:15] <oliveraa1ango> was asked to relog in this server ...
[09:15] <oliveraa1ango> how can i chk what irc im using  .... earlier tried xchat ...
[09:15] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: do you have graphical environment?
[09:16] <user_> Linux shows them as file systems not hardrives (dev or sha i think)
[09:16] <oliveraa1ango> i think ... irssi
[09:16] <rysh> shanali4: what you mean with "open my computer" ... what you want to do ? ...
[09:16] <rysh> you can see the files in Dolphin / konqueror ... this is like Explorer
[09:17] <oliveraa1ango> mostafa ... yes ... i think im in irsii or xchat
[09:17] <oliveraa1ango> dolphin?
[09:17] <oliveraa1ango> is dolphin a std package in ubuntu server version?
[09:17] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: xchat is a GUI program...
[09:17] <mostafa> oliveraa1ango: yes it is
[09:18] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: This is the kubuntu group ... where people use Kubuntu ... with KDE ...
[09:18] <oliveraa1ango> rysh ... but i dont know this xchat is working although i installed it earlier
[09:18] <oliveraa1ango> i see... am i in wrong environment? but it should be compatible even im ubuntu ...
[09:19] <oliveraa1ango> how can i open XChat?
[09:19] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: what you want to do with linux ?
[09:19] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: browse the web ?
[09:19] <rysh> then better not install ubuntu-server
[09:19] <oliveraa1ango> just a beginner to this ubuntu ...
[09:19] <rysh> but install Kubuntu .... or if you want to use Gnome ... Ubuntu
[09:20] <oliveraa1ango> thinkin this will give me an advantage use for a small startup biz
[09:20] <rysh> last time i installed ubuntu-server it did not install a graphical user interface ...
[09:21] <rysh> so you have a black screen and need to type commands
[09:21] <oliveraa1ango> am i experiencing the same you had?
[09:21] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... all like a DOS env
[09:21] <oliveraa1ango> welcome back shanali
[09:21] <user_> good thing about ubuntu (variants) is th hard to grasp (unlike plain command line interfaces) so when switching from winblows it doesnt take long to get used to it :)e gui's arent
[09:21] <oliveraa1ango> mostafa ... are you around? thanks for some inputs earlier
[09:22] <oliveraa1ango> hi user?
[09:22] <oliveraa1ango> i think under ubuntu ... i can switch between window by using Alt command
[09:23] <oliveraa1ango> can sudo will do?
[09:23] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: ... you have several options ... you can try to log in to another virtual terminal ... like CTRL ALT F2 .. .and log in there with your user name ... and do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <oliveraa1ango> you mean, i can install virtual terminal in ubuntu server envt?
[09:24] <rysh> Hmmm seems CTRL not really needed ... only needed when you want to escape X
[09:24] <rysh> Yes ...
[09:24] <oliveraa1ango> let me try ... ALT F2 or CTRL ALT F2?
[09:25] <rysh> both will work i think ...
[09:25] <oliveraa1ango> hold on ... will try ... hope i can return to this ...
[09:25] <rysh> You can go back ... using F1
[09:25] <rysh> meaning ALT F1
[09:26] <oliveraa1ango> wuah ... almost lost ... lucky with ALT F1
[09:26] <oliveraa1ango> hahahahahaha...
[09:26] <oliveraa1ango> need GPS in this Ubuntu env ..
[09:26] <rysh> But you see it works ?
[09:26] <oliveraa1ango> learning new things ....
[09:27] <rysh> ALT F2 will give you another login prompt
[09:27] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... ALT F1 will bring you back in this window
[09:27] <oliveraa1ango> yap rysh ...
[09:27] <rysh> so you have 6 of them
[09:27] <oliveraa1ango> what was it again for virtual terminal?
[09:28] <rysh> try login on on TT2 ... ALT F2
[09:28] <rysh> TTY2
[09:28] <rysh> :-)
[09:28] <oliveraa1ango> then what will be the scenario?
[09:28] <oliveraa1ango> command not found at TTY
[09:29] <rysh> type this command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <oliveraa1ango> let me try ubuntu desktop ...
[09:30] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: i am not really sure this will work, but you can try ... another option is download an desktop edition of (k)ubuntu and start over again and install that fresh
[09:30] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... downloading but it takes about 51 mins
[09:30] <oliveraa1ango> left it still downloading
[09:31] <rysh> yeah :-) ... a lot of packages :-)
[09:31] <oliveraa1ango> will a desktop can run in server env?
[09:31] <oliveraa1ango> any idea?
[09:31] <oliveraa1ango> hope it will work fine and not mess up this server
[09:31] <rysh> Yes ... servers are daemon programs ...
[09:31] <oliveraa1ango> what do you mean?
[09:31] <rysh> these also work on a desktop machine
[09:32] <rysh> a desktop machine only also has a GUI ...
[09:32] <oliveraa1ango> do i understd it as ubuntu desktop will work under ubuntu server envt?
[09:33] <rysh> ubuntu-server is ubuntu without the graphical user interface
[09:33] <oliveraa1ango> still a lot of pkgs to download and install
[09:33] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... thought ubuntu server has gui
[09:33] <oliveraa1ango> only desktop has gui like windows xp or vista
[09:33] <oliveraa1ango> hi ethercrow
[09:34] <rysh> most times a server only needs to serve ... no need to have a gui on such a machine
[09:34] <oliveraa1ango> rysh...where are you located?
[09:34] <rysh> HK
[09:34] <oliveraa1ango> i see...im here in SG
[09:34] <rysh> Aha  not to far away
[09:35] <oliveraa1ango> how to check what IRC im using at this moment?
[09:35] <rysh> seems i can use a command to ask you program to identify itself :-)
[09:35] <oliveraa1ango> now only ALT key is working ...
[09:36] <rysh> No problem i think ///// you mean ALT F2 ?
[09:36] <oliveraa1ango> welcome back client1
[09:37] <oliveraa1ango> welcome egidio
[09:37] <oliveraa1ango> welcome awidegreen
[09:37] <oliveraa1ango> rysh ... what program or command is it?
[09:38] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: you use  irssi v0.8.12
[09:39] <oliveraa1ango> installed irssi already ...
[09:39] <rysh> yes you are useing that now
[09:39] <oliveraa1ango> like to know to verify what irc im currently using now
[09:40] <oliveraa1ango> how to check?
[09:40] <rysh> irssi is the program you use to get on irc
[09:40] <oliveraa1ango> ok ... any command to verify this and its version?
[09:40] <rysh> it's version 0.8.12
[09:41] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: i am not very familiar with this program so i am not suer how to chack from within irssi
[09:43] <oliveraa1ango> yes ... i got it now
[09:43] <oliveraa1ango> im using irssi
[09:43] <rysh> i myself use Quassel in KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu :-)
[09:45] <oliveraa1ango> i will need a lot of time to learn more about this ubuntu envt
[09:46] <oliveraa1ango> it's like DOS envt before
[09:46] <oliveraa1ango> fast response but not friendly ... back in 1980s
[09:46] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: the beginning is the hardest ... after that it will get easier and easier ...
[09:46] <oliveraa1ango> yap...
[09:47] <oliveraa1ango> my worry is the desktop im dwnldg now...hope it will not corrupt this svr setup
[09:47] <rysh> when you have a graphical user interface ... seems you are choosing for GNOME, then it will be maybe easier for you to manage
[09:47] <oliveraa1ango> GNOME?
[09:48] <rysh> ubuntu is based on gnome ... kubuntu is based on KDE
[09:48] <oliveraa1ango> i see...
[09:48] <rysh> so you said you instaleld ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <rysh> and not kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <oliveraa1ango> dwnldg ubuntu-desktop at this moment ... still will take minutes
[09:49] <rysh> SO if you have later questions about GNOME ... you better ask them in #ubuntu ... and not here :-)
[09:50] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... rysh ... ill look for the ubuntu channel / room
[09:50] <rysh> OK
[09:50] <oliveraa1ango> how is HK now?
[09:50] <oliveraa1ango> where in HK are you stayg?
[09:50] <rysh> i'm on hk island
[09:51] <oliveraa1ango> but this #kubuntu channel is under server Ubuntu2 that shows in this IRC
[09:51] <oliveraa1ango> new territories?
[09:51] <rysh> No ..... HK island
[09:52] <oliveraa1ango> ah ok ....
[09:52] <rysh> hope for you this will work :-)
[09:53] <oliveraa1ango> crossing fingers
[09:54] <oliveraa1ango> what do you do there in HK, rysh?
[09:54] <oliveraa1ango> how long do you use Kubuntu?
[09:54] <rysh> btw you also can switch to other virt terminals using ALT left or right arrow keys
[09:54] <corigo> Having some real troubles with the Task Bar widgets. Every time I click Add Widget I get a box that says "Desktop" and nothing else. Now the only widget left siplaying art the Launcher, Last Attached Device, and Network (which is unable to so a different icon when connected to the Wireless Network). I can't seem to remove the "Destop" boxes, and the task bar isn't even showing my open application windows any more. Help!
[09:55] <oliveraa1ango> yap ... cool
[09:55] <corigo> KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu 9.04_64
[09:55] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: i use kubuntu now about 2 and half years ... but i use Linux for about 11 years
[09:55] <oliveraa1ango> hi corigo
[09:55] <oliveraa1ango> wow ... Linux Pro
[09:56] <rysh> my main desktop OS
[09:56] <oliveraa1ango> who irssi
[09:57] <oliveraa1ango> ok ... your desktop is in a separate pc?
[09:57] <oliveraa1ango> hi genan
[09:57] <oliveraa1ango> hi newbuntu1
[09:59] <corigo>  is there a GUI app for managing Start up items like in Gnome?
[10:00] <oliveraa1ango> who
[10:11] <corigo> Having some real troubles with the Task Bar widgets. Every time I click Add Widget I get a box that says "Desktop" and nothing else. Now the only widget left siplaying art the Launcher, Last Attached Device, and Network (which is unable to so a different icon when connected to the Wireless Network). I can't seem to remove the "Destop" boxes, and the task bar isn't even showing my open application windows any more. Help!
[10:14] <oliveraa1ango> rysh, many thanks ... chat you later
[10:14] <rysh> oliveraa1ango: ok ok ... hope it works
[10:15] <oliveraa1ango> going to bootup just completed installing desktop
[10:15] <oliveraa1ango> buzz in later ...
[10:15] <rysh> ok :-) ... success
[10:15] <oliveraa1ango> not yet ... once i able to buzz in will update you later
[10:15] <rysh> ok
[10:16] <oliveraa1ango> quit
[11:09] <Sean> hello, everyone
[11:09] <Guest96690> help
[11:10] <sluo-bj> hello
[11:10] <sluo-bj> anyone can see my msg?
[11:10] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: nope
[11:11] <sluo-bj> hei, shadeslaye
[11:11] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: hey
[11:12] <sluo-bj> I'm looking for driver for PCMICA card
[11:12]  * shadeslayer checks out the new Karmic alpha 4 release
[11:13] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: does lspci show the card?
[11:15] <sluo-bj> It seems not.
[11:16] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: hmm,then you need to find the correct module and use modprobe modulename
[11:18] <sluo-bj> er... but it seems not be detected
[11:20] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: that is why you need to find the module and manually load it
[11:20] <sluo-bj> before, I can see the light flashes when I insert it. but some time later, it go dark and never flash any more
[11:20] <sluo-bj> How can I know the module name ?
[11:21] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: ok remove it and reinsert it and pastebin the output of : dmesg | tail
[11:21] <shadeslayer> sluo-bj: youll have to google that,i have no idea
[11:22] <sluo-bj> I'm goooogling always...but no result so far.
[11:22] <sluo-bj> Ok. Thank you any way :)
[11:29] <ohlievher> hi room
[11:30] <kaddi> hi | ohlievher
[11:30] <shadeslayer> ohlievher: oh hi
[11:30] <kaddi> almost would have worked, if I hadn't forgotten the ! :p
[11:32] <shadeslayer> kaddi: hehe
[11:32] <ohlievher> hi kaddi and shades
[11:32] <ohlievher> just new to this envt
[11:32] <ohlievher> i mean in this ubuntu chatroom
[11:32] <ohlievher> what is this room all about?
[11:33] <kaddi> this is the official support channel for kubuntu
[11:34] <ohlievher> i see ... for kubuntu ... what's the difference with Ubuntu?
[11:34] <kaddi> incidentially my up- and my down-key stopped working this morning. :( I was wondering if I could reassign them with xmodmap or something, but I can't find out how to query the keycode of the keys. Does anyone know how to do this=
[11:35] <kaddi> ohlievher the difference is the displaymanager and the installed programs. Kubuntu uses KDE and therefore uses amarok for music, konqueror for web and dolphin as explorer by default, while Ubuntu uses gnome as displaymanager and has rythmbox, epiphany and nautilus as default, I think.
[11:49] <mozillo> hello world
[11:52] <ubuntu> czesc
[12:54] <firsttimeuser> hi
[13:03] <kaddi> !hi | firsttimeuser
[13:09] <bebebebebe> Can i get some help with wicd here?
[13:09] <cor> !lol | kaddi
[13:09] <cor> lol
[13:09] <kaddi> o.o
[13:09] <cor> bebebebebe, what sort of help?
[13:09] <cor> uninstalling?
[13:10] <bebebebebe> cant connect to one wep network,
[13:10] <cor> oh my
[13:10] <cor> what seems to be the trouble?
[13:10] <bebebebebe> it doesnt connect
[13:10] <cor> clearly
[13:11] <cor> what seems to be the trouble?
[13:11] <bebebebebe> ehm, im on my neighbours now. but when i press connect it just loads for 1 sec and nothing happens
[13:11] <bebebebebe> i have two wlans, can i connect both at the same time_
[13:12] <cor> press connect? is that in the list of available connexions in the wicd gui?
[13:12] <bebebebebe> yes
[13:12] <cor> connect to two wlans? sure, if you have two wlan cards. actually, it may be possible, with a virtual adapptor, but I've not tried that, yet
[13:13] <cor> what do your error logs say the trouble is?
[13:13] <bebebebebe> someone type something
[13:13] <bebebebebe> ok im still connected to my neighbours
[13:13] <cor> !ping
[13:13] <cor> fyi
[13:14] <pheonix> what is compiz manager equivalent in kubuntu
[13:14] <bebebebebe> the gui seems to be bugged, cause it doesnt connect to the wlan im pressing connect at
[13:15] <bebebebebe> or the statuswindow is bugged
[13:17] <bebebebebe> its like randomly trying to connect to other networks when i press connect
[13:24] <cor> bebebebebe, clearly you've already uninstalled Network Manager. Personally, I'd also remove wicd and just setup your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, in the long run, it's usually easier.
[13:25] <cor> I messed around with network managers for almost a whole weekend when I first put in Kubuntu - what a waste of time!
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[13:55] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: he
[13:55] <shadeslayer> *hey
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer, did you figure out your streaming issue ?
[13:56] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yep
[13:56] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: the media player widget can play video only via a gstreamer backend
[13:57] <shadeslayer> not via xine
[13:57] <shadeslayer> same goes for miniplayer
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ok, I use VLC for practically everything media...one stop shopping :)
[14:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah,me too,but i was just experimenting
[14:01] <cor> get_iplayer + vlc = yum
[14:01] <cor> eat dem playlist baby!
[14:09] <BluesKaj> cor , iplayer ?
[14:10] <cor> get_iplayer is a perl script that scrapes iplayer (and itv,et al with plugins). search, download, etc. rather good.
[14:13] <BluesKaj> cor got a url - source site ?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> or repos ?
[14:14] <sturmtieF> hi there
[14:15] <sturmtieF> ups?
[14:17] <co_aja> morning all
[14:18] <sturmtieF> morning co-aja
[14:18] <sturmtieF> funny, in germany its 15:15
[14:22] <cor> sure, loads. one sec
[14:22] <cor> http://linuxcentre.net/projects/get_iplayer-pvr-manager/
[14:22] <firsttimeuser>  I am new to ubuntu ....I have a small issue ...it is not able to detect my usb smart drive...
[14:23] <cor> there's links to get_iplayer and all resources on that page.
[14:23] <firsttimeuser> smart drive 2.5 hdd nema enclosure....please help
[14:28] <BluesKaj> cor , so you use iplayer instead of mythtv , is this the idea ?
[14:37] <cor> dunno about mythtv, I just like to grab certain radio/tv shows, and get_iplayer makes it scripting/cron-easy
[14:37] <cor> wake up thursday morning, 2 hours of Gilles Peterson waiting in high quality audio format
[14:37] <cor> Mmmm..
[14:49] <colton_> Somehow I accidentally screwed up my desktop. When I click the minimize button on a window (the little upside down '^' looking thingy) it the window doesn't move to a tray from which I can click it and maximize it again, it just disappears. How do I fix this?
[14:57] <kaddi> colton_ gimme a second I'll find it.. :p
[14:59] <kaddi> colton_ the applet you are missing should be caled task manager. Just add it into your taskbar and you should see all the minimized windows there.
[15:00] <colton_> Aha, brilliant. Thx.
[15:01] <colton_> Oh look, I have ten instances of firefox, 4 instance of konqueror, 4 consoles. No wonder why my computer is quite as quick as i'm used to!
[15:01] <kaddi> your welcome
[15:01] <kaddi> lol
[15:04] <cor> in the future, when you "accidentally" close the task manager, a message may pop up saying, "ARE YOU NUTS???!?", and so on
[15:06] <kaddi> I switched to fancytasks/stasks quite a while ago.. more shininess :D
[15:07] <kaddi> but stasks hasn't been updated in a while :(
[15:17] <twister> Yes
[15:18] <de> test
[15:23] <twister> Why does anyone speak ?
[15:24] <cor> or when they do, use back-to-front non-english
[15:25] <twister> im from argentina but i can speak english
[15:27] <cor> Good work!
[15:35] <gerd> Hallo?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !ask
[15:37] <khaije|amalt> so my kopete will only send messages with 'enter' with numlock is off, is this the intended behaviour?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> just making sure the bot is awake
[15:38] <BluesKaj> use konversation for irc
[15:39] <khaije|amalt> me? i am. lol, that was my 'question'
[15:40] <khaije|amalt> re: IM like jabber etc
[15:40] <BluesKaj> then why bother with kopete ?
[15:41] <twister> IS To dificult to change from KDE to Gnome ?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> twister, ask in #ubuntu ,but there is a tutorial called pure gnome
[15:44] <slow-motion> hi
[15:46] <shadeslayer> slow-motion: hello
[15:46] <sturmtieF> shit, after distupgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 - my pcmcia-wlan issnt working, no connection possible via wlan
[15:46] <slow-motion> hi shadeslayer
[15:48] <sturmtieF> if nobody have a idea - i make a clean fresh install from the 9.04 cd
[15:50] <khaije|amalt> sturmtieF: whats yr wlan card? you'll just as likely have the same problem with a clean install so you may as well do some research first
[15:50] <cor> it's not windows, you know
[15:51] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: ir is a netgear WGT
[15:51] <sturmtieF> ups
[15:51] <sturmtieF> netgear WG511T
[15:52] <sturmtieF> cor: i know ;)
[15:53] <sturmtieF> ut with my background - perhups the try with a fresh install would be a bit faster....
[15:53] <shadeslayer> ++
[15:55] <khaije|amalt> sturmtieF: could you paste the output to yr 'lspci' to pastebin pls?
[15:55] <sturmtieF> in the hardware-driver-manegment i cant actiate the driver for this pmcia - i see it - i can klick on activate - but nothing else .... its not activated after that ... and - yes - a lan-connection is running and working for that
[15:56] <sturmtieF> mom khaije|amalt
[15:58] <Guest93672> hello?
[15:58] <Guest93672> hi
[15:58] <Guest93672> can someone help
[15:58] <shadeslayer> sure
[15:59] <Guest93672> okay
[15:59] <Guest93672> i just put u buntu on my laptop
[15:59] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: www.pastebin.org/9226
[15:59] <Guest93672> like a week ag\
[15:59] <Guest93672> it was going like super fas
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: how did you like it?
[15:59] <Guest93672> good.
[15:59] <Guest93672> lol
[16:00] <Guest93672> but now the boot time is horrible..
[16:00] <Guest93672> and all apps are slow to load
[16:00] <Guest93672> and download
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: what did you do? :P
[16:00] <Guest93672> nothing!
[16:00] <Guest93672> lol
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: ok,anyways install bootchart and have a look at the image of the  boot process and see if you detect a anomally
[16:01] <Guest93672> okay.
[16:01] <Guest93672> is there a terminal command to get bootchart
[16:01] <sturmtieF> Guest93672:  take the win cd more far away from your laptop
[16:01] <Guest93672> lol
[16:02] <shadeslayer> *anomaly
[16:02] <cor> detect an anomally.. very nice.. could have come straight out of Star Trek
[16:02] <shadeslayer> cor: hehe
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: type : sudo apt-get install bootchart in a terminal
[16:02] <cor> I love how we speak like this now. with all this technology, it's a good thing
[16:03] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: got the pastebin-link?
[16:03] <Guest93672> E: invalid bootchart operation
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: you just need to reboot after installing
[16:04] <cor> lol
[16:04] <khaije|amalt> sturmtieF: ya, u said it worked before the upgrade?
[16:05] <Guest93672> oh
[16:06] <Guest93672> so reboot now
[16:06] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: yep
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Guest93672: and the image would be in /var/log/bootchart
[16:07] <khaije|amalt> Guest93672: before you reboot, did bootchar install ok?
[16:07] <khaije|amalt> bootchart that is
[16:08] <shadeslayer> !bum | Guest93672
[16:09] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: yes - worked before. first with WICD ... and brfore the upgrade i installed knetworkmanager instead - because of third-partie
[16:10] <sturmtieF> but knetworkm. worked fine till the upgrade
[16:11] <BluesKaj> sturmtieF, you skipped an important step when you upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 , you didn't upgrade to 8.10 first, therefore you have to expect broken apps and dependencies
[16:11] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: ups
[16:11] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: ++
[16:13] <sturmtieF> khaije|amalt: ok, fresh install ... over lan i am saving my homedir now - and after that - a short fresch install ... if there it is no quicker solution
[16:13] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, how many kernel upgrades since 8.04 ?
[16:13] <sturmtieF> oh, msg goes to BlueKaj
[16:13] <sturmtieF> :)
[16:14] <sturmtieF> sorry
[16:14] <khaije|amalt> sturmtieF: I think this would help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7237781&postcount=4
[16:14] <BluesKaj> sturmtieF, ithink a fresh install is best , yes
[16:15] <khaije|amalt> if my evaluation of this situation is correct, then it's actually not an especially complicated problem
[16:15] <sturmtieF> hmm
[16:18] <BluesKaj> sturmtieF, have you tried wicd again , cuz the widget-network-manager is flaky still on 9.10
[16:21] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: about 3 every version so thatll be about 9-10
[16:22] <khaije|amalt> oh ya, what BluesKaj said, I'm using gnome-networkmanager in kde4 for best effect
[16:22] <sturmtieF> no, but i will try it noe ... if WICD will solve this prob - its ok... wicd is not bad
[16:23] <khaije|amalt> anyone played with connman? i see it's in the ubuntu repo's
[16:23] <sturmtieF> sorry for typing-mistakes ... left hand is injured
[16:23] <khaije|amalt> np :)
[16:23] <sturmtieF> only little finger leftside is free to use ;)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> so skipping a version upgrade is a dangerous practice IMO , lots of kernel modules not being installed
[16:25] <BluesKaj> changed kernel modules
[16:25] <cor> man: interfaces
[16:26] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: have you seen the new alpha 4 btw?
[16:28] <adna> shadeslayer: Just installed alpha 4 which works great but can't find my wireless chipset.
[16:30] <shadeslayer> :o
[16:30] <shadeslayer> im thinking of upgrading....
[16:30] <adna> Or maybe not ipw3945 problem, but wireless doesn't work out of the box like with 9.04
[16:31] <sturmtieF> BluesKaj: khaije|amalt: i do now a fresh install... problem is the madwifi-driver ... i can not install it.
[16:31] <adna> ...otherwise it's surprisingly stable for alpha.
[16:32] <shadeslayer> cool
[16:33] <sturmtieF> and - after that - when the problem is still there - i need to go face to face with the code
[16:34] <cor> none of the kubuntu releases work with my wifi, I always need to put in some daily kernel
[16:34] <cor> once you find the right kernel, it's trivial.
[16:34] <adna> cor: How does one do that?
[16:35] <cor> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D
[16:35] <cor> google about to see if any kernel versions are known to work with your hardware, and keep trying the latest!
[16:35] <cor> meanwhile there's probably a driver out there.
[16:36] <adna> cor: THNX.
[16:37] <cor> np. remember to grab all the packages, source, headers, and kernel image. install in the correct order (the order that gives no errors!) and then simply add a line to your grub config, test it out. if it doesn't work, just reboot and your back to your regular kernel
[16:37] <cor> *you're
[16:37] <GinoMan_> someone in here really good at modules
[16:38] <GinoMan_> ?
[16:38] <adna> cor: It's an intel chipset. the latest drivers are not downloadable, they're integrated with the kernel.
[16:38] <cor> but you can usually compile modules and add them to the kernel
[16:38] <cor> as a last resort!
[16:54] <jan__> hello there, I got a question about ati and activating desktop effects in KDE 4.3... is there anyone that might help me with the issue that I can not activate it....
[16:54] <jan__> some sort of discussion...
[16:54] <jan__> at least...
[16:54] <Tm_T> !ati | jan__
[16:55] <jan__> okay, I'll look into it
[16:55] <Tm_T> jan__: other than that, I'm not best person to help, so just explain your issue to us all and wait patiently if someone knows
[16:56] <jan__> okay, thx, I'll read through the given page, try some stuff and if it still does not work, I'll try to be more specific and see if someone have an idea (if it still does not work that is)
[17:02] <Brian_> hey i just did a update and now after a restart the cashew in the corner is gone and my desktop is now a bunch of checkard squares  and i cant right click on the desktop
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Brian_: press alt+d and then press =
[17:07] <Brian_> i will in a sec im running in recovery mode, i forgot last night when i did the update i got a error maybe a broken dependency
[17:07] <Brian_> ok im booting in now
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Brian_: its probably that plasma is zoomed out
[17:09] <Brian_> i dont think plasma is running
[17:09] <Brian_> alt d  didnt do anything
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Brian_: you have to press = after that
[17:10] <Brian_> in synaptic it says i have 17 broken packages
[17:11] <carpii_> in tsclient, theres a vcn option but its disabled. What must I install to enable this option ?
[17:11] <carpii_> vnc
[17:12] <Brian_> synaptic says i got 17 broken packages  dont you think that has somthing to do with it?
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Brian_: :o
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Brian_: yes then
[17:13] <Brian_> lol
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Brian_: youre on 4.3 right?
[17:13] <Brian_> how do i fix a broken package
[17:13] <Brian_> 4.2.3
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Brian_: run sudo apt-get -f install
[17:14] <Brian_> ok
[17:15] <Brian_> ok
[17:15] <Brian_> done
[17:17] <shadeslayer> Brian_: log out and press alt+E
[17:17] <Brian_> oh i just restarted
[17:17] <shadeslayer> Brian_: is it working?
[17:17] <Brian_> i sec
[17:17] <Brian_> illl se
[17:17] <Brian_> e
[17:18] <Brian_> nope still no cashew and the chackard desktop that i cant click on
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Brian_: press alt+F2
[17:20] <Brian_> ok
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Brian_: does anything come up?
[17:20] <Brian_> ya
[17:20] <shadeslayer> Brian_: type plasma and hit enter
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Brian_: did something happeN/
[17:21] <Brian_> nothing
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Brian_: no cashew too?
[17:21] <Brian_> nope
[17:23] <Brian_> i clicked on desktop effects and it said compi isnt installed
[17:23] <Brian_> so im installing that now
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Brian_: compiz?
[17:23] <Brian_> ya
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Brian_: kde uses kwin
[17:23] <Brian_> o
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Brian_: open a konsole via alt+F2 and type kwin --replace in the konsole
[17:24] <Brian_> should i just do a re install
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Brian_: its up to you
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Brian_: do you really think a reinstall will solve the problem?
[17:25] <Brian_> the desktop blinked and i saw the wallpaper but only for a split second
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Brian_: with the kwin command?
[17:25] <Brian_> all this happened after i did a update and i got a errer half way threw
[17:25] <Brian_> ya
[17:26] <shadeslayer> Brian_: ok just type kwin in konsole
[17:26] <Brian_> nope
[17:27] <shadeslayer> hmm,well just 2 more things and after that im out of ideas
[17:27] <Brian_> ok
[17:27] <shadeslayer> Brian_: type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a console
[17:28] <Brian_> oh hey i think i figured it out
[17:28] <Brian_> last night when i did the upgrade it was installing 4.3
[17:29] <Brian_> i just checked and im running 4.3 now
[17:29] <Brian_> how do i downgrade back to 4.2.3
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Brian_: you cant
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Brian_: well theres a way....but if you mess it up,you might have to reinstall
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Brian_: remove the KDE 4.3 backports line and remove kubuntu-desktop from a TTY NOT a konsole
[17:31] <cor> *Ubuntu installer should create a "spare system" partition automatically, where folk can test upgrades.
[17:31] <shadeslayer> Brian_: then install kubuntu-desktop for a 4.2.3 experience
[17:32] <cor> Linux can boot from extended partition, you could have a dozen OS in there, a hundred!
[17:32] <Brian_> well i just opened synaptic and kubuntu-desktop wasnt installed
[17:32] <shadeslayer> cor: imho there should be a recovery center kind of thing where you press a button and all your files on /home/$user are backed up and the sytem is restored to default
[17:33] <shadeslayer> Brian_: then install it :o
[17:33] <cor> you could have a "System restore" that actually really worked
[17:33] <cor> yes!
[17:33] <cor> Or at least, "yesterday"
[17:34] <cor> with HD's as big as they are, and extended partitions being bootable, you could easily snapshot entire systems, create any number of test scenarios. that area of *ubuntu needs work
[17:35] <cor> get this.. my single user mode check disks option doesn't even attempt to unmount the disks first, and ALWAYS errors. how crazy is that?
[17:35] <Brian_> im restarting now i hope that was the problem
[17:35] <Brian_> kubuntu desktop is kinda key
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Brian_: yeah
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Brian_: its a meta-package
[17:36] <shadeslayer> !meta-package | Brian_
[17:36] <Brian_> wah  still the checkard desktop no cashew
[17:37] <cor> an umbrella package, sorta
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Brian_: ok last attempt
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Brian_: type : rm -rf in a tty
[17:37] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[17:37] <cor> checkered! someone was after that!
[17:37] <shadeslayer> Brian_: type : rm -rf ~/.kde in a tty
[17:37] <cor> someone in this channel or another. erm..
[17:37] <cor> removing the background in KDE4
[17:38] <shadeslayer> Brian_: that command will restore all KDE settings
[17:38] <shadeslayer> to default
[17:39] <Brian_> in a tty??
[17:39] <shadeslayer> Brian_: press ctrl+alt+F1
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Brian_: you have logged out of KDE right?
[17:41] <Brian_> ya
[17:41] <Brian_> are there spaces in that command
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Brian_: rm -rf ~/.kde
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Brian_: after rm yes
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Brian_: and before ~
[17:42] <Brian_> ok now log back in
[17:42] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:43] <Brian_> ah how
[17:44] <shadeslayer> Brian_: what happened?
[17:44] <Brian_> i cant login
[17:45] <shadeslayer> Brian_: the login manager disappeared?
[17:45] <Brian_> brb
[17:45] <shadeslayer> okies
[17:46] <cor> maybe next time mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[17:47] <shadeslayer> cor: whats the use?
[17:47] <cor> heh
[17:47] <shadeslayer> cor: it already wasnt working :P
[17:47] <cor> that folder is the source of most trouble, deleting it is good! you're right!
[17:48] <shadeslayer> hehe
[17:53] <heo> anyone  using "interactive  PHP shell"?
[17:53] <heo> How can you get it to  kubuntu?
[17:54] <heo> phpsh is not in apt-cache
[17:54] <shadeslayer> !phpsh
[17:54] <shadeslayer> nothing in ubottu either
[17:54] <shadeslayer> !find phpsh
[18:02] <cor> php --ineractive
[18:02] <cor> except spelt right
[18:02] <cor> or just -a
[18:07] <_marekt> hi i have a problem with dependencies in gnome-games, here is output: http://pastebin.com/m871a810
[18:07] <_marekt> sorry, wrogn channel
[18:07] <shadeslayer> _marekt: uh #ubuntu ?
[18:09] <firsttimeuser_> hi
[18:09] <firsttimeuser_> i have trouble getting a usb harddisk detected....
[18:10] <firsttimeuser_> http://pastebin.org/9245
[18:10] <firsttimeuser_> please help
[18:10] <eladh7> hello, I need help
[18:12] <eladh7> There's someone here?
[18:13] <eladh7> I installed ubuntu 9.04 now and I have a problem with viewing Flash content.
[18:13] <eladh7> After installing the ubuntu finished, I installed all the updates and installed the latest driver for my graphics card - Hardware drivers.
[18:13] <eladh7> The problem is that when I see a flash video on youtube, they work me slow, and can not be watch like this.
[18:13] <eladh7> The problem is not only on youtube, are all sites that allow video viewing.
[18:13] <eladh7> It should be noted that when I go to youtube for the first time, opened in firefox top bar that said should install Flash to view the Videos.
[18:13] <FloodBotK2> eladh7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <eladh7> In the top bar I had three possible installation of a flash, one of them was - adobe flash, and that I installed.
[18:13] <carpii_> heh
[18:14] <shadeslayer> eladh7: install the flash plugin
[18:14] <shadeslayer> !flash | e;
[18:14] <shadeslayer> !flash | ela
[18:14] <pronoy> !sound > pronoy
[18:18] <pronoy> guys need help on sound in intrepid..i am getting no sound on the laptop speakers but only on headphones
[18:18] <pronoy> guys need help on sound in intrepid..i am getting no sound on the laptop speakers but only on headphones
[18:19] <shadeslayer> pronoy: did you see the PM?
[18:19] <cuznt> [18:19] <pronoy> shadeslayer : yup
[18:19] <cuznt> are the speakers muted?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> pronoy: type alsamixer in a konsole and set everything to high
[18:20] <firsttimeuser_> my usb hdd is not getting detected
[18:21] <firsttimeuser_> dmesg output
[18:21] <firsttimeuser_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253743/
[18:21] <firsttimeuser_> please advice
[18:22] <pronoy> shadeslayer: no success,...also do i close the konsole after i have set it to high....i think it may not work if the konsole is closed
[18:22] <wirechief> firsttimeuser are you trying to get your usb hdd detected with virtualbox ?
[18:23] <firsttimeuser> nope ..please check logs at end.....
[18:23] <shadeslayer> pronoy: quit the mixer via :q
[18:24] <shadeslayer> pronoy: uh not q but esc
[18:25] <pronoy> shadeslayer: no success still
[18:26] <shadeslayer> pronoy: ok in kmixer check all channels and set them to high
[18:26] <pronoy> done that
[18:27] <pronoy> shadeslayer: done that
[18:30] <pronoy> shadeslayer: ??
[18:32] <shadeslayer> pronoy: sorry
[18:32] <shadeslayer> pronoy: i have no idea
[18:33] <wirechief> pronoy read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:34] <pronoy> guys any idea how to get sound on laptop speakers in intrepid ???
[18:35] <wirechief> did you read the help at the link i gave pronoy ?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> pronoy: paste the output of : lspci | grep Audio
[18:36] <pronoy> wirechief : yes sir...i did
[18:36] <wirechief> then what does your alsa info look like ?
[18:36] <pronoy> shadeslayer:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !ich9
[18:37] <pronoy> wirechief: i have analog intel digital and intel analog
[18:37] <pronoy> wirechief: showing as playback hardware devices
[18:38] <wirechief> pronoy without more information, i am at a loss on how to direct help for your issue.
[18:38] <shadeslayer> pronoy: looks like a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274424
[18:38] <pronoy> wirechief: let me pastebin aplay -l for you shall i ?
[18:38] <wirechief> i need the alsa info
[18:38] <rav> hello. is there an application for power management on jaunty?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> pronoy: see : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1101993
[18:38] <shadeslayer> rav: kde i suppose?
[18:39] <shadeslayer> rav: press the battery icon in the taskbar
[18:39] <pronoy> wirechief http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253750/
[18:40] <shadeslayer> pronoy: those two links i just gave have the solution....
[18:40] <pronoy> shadeslayer: yeah checking them out
[18:41] <Brian_> i did the update to 4.3 and messed up my computer no cashew and the desktop is checkardboarded is their a way to downgradeback to 4.2.3
[18:41] <wirechief> pronoy you really need to read that help with sound troubleshooting it will tell you how to get the alsa info and give you a lot of other tips besides, you need to know what your codec is and if it is supported then perhaps more help is available.
[18:41] <shadeslayer> Brian_: oh hi
[18:41] <shadeslayer> Brian_: same problem?
[18:42] <Brian_> lol yep
[18:43] <pronoy> wirechief: on it ..thanks
[18:44] <BlueFaceMonster> No, Brian_? Surely that's a good thing?! I use IHateTheCashew to get rid of mine :)
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Brian_: remove the backports line and remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <Brian_> then what
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Brian_: then install kubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <shadeslayer> Brian_: after updating the sources that is
[18:44] <Brian_> ok
[18:45] <Brian_> ill try
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Brian_: all of the above from  a tty
[18:45] <Brian_> ok can you help me do this
[18:45] <shadeslayer> Brian_: sure
[18:45] <Brian_> shadeslayer: thanks
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Brian_: press ctrl+alt+F1 > login
[18:46] <astrocub> so, this is random. the computer hasn't been connected to the internet for updates or anything but... my uncle's computer won't login
[18:46] <Brian_> ok
[18:46] <astrocub> you login and it just goes back to the kdm startup screen
[18:46] <astrocub> what's the prob?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Brian_: now sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:47] <Brian_> space between the edit and /
[18:47] <rav> is there a power management program in jaunty?
[18:47] <shadeslayer> Brian_: yep
[18:47] <shadeslayer> rav: i told you....press the battery icon in the taskbar
[18:48] <shadeslayer> Brian_: remove the backports line
[18:48] <rav> shadeslayer: i got disconnected, didn't see that. i don't have any battery icon on the taskbar. i added a widget to monitor the battery
[18:48] <shadeslayer> rav: yeah that one
[18:49] <Brian_> ok done
[18:49] <rav> shadeslayer: ah, thanks
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Brian_: now update the list
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Brian_: sudo apt-get update
[18:49] <Brian_> how do i exit the list
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Brian_: ctrl+x and answer yes to all
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Brian_: now the update command
[18:51] <Brian_> ok
[18:51] <Brian_> i had to take out like 5-6 backports
[18:52] <Brian_> ok its done
[18:53] <shadeslayer> Brian_: huh? you need to add just add one line for KDE 4.3
[18:54] <mole42> anyone running 9.04 with those 4.3 packages?
[18:54] <mole42> i'm havin major issues with the top of my display
[18:54] <Brian_> ya i dont know somehow their were 5 of them
[18:54] <shadeslayer> Brian_: 0.o
[18:54] <Brian_> but eithor way its done with the update
[18:54] <shadeslayer> Brian_: hold
[18:54] <shadeslayer> !pure gnome
[18:55] <shadeslayer> !puregnome
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Brian_: type :  sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data
[18:55] <Brian_> i dont want to remove all kde
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Brian_: you will have to
[18:55] <shadeslayer> Brian_: the only way you can downgrade
[18:55] <Brian_> ok sorry
[18:55] <Brian_> then reinstall i got ya
[18:56] <shadeslayer> Brian_: after that sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:56] <shadeslayer> Brian_: and finally after that : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:57] <Brian_> ok
[18:57] <shadeslayer> Brian_: done all of the steps?
[18:57] <Brian_> no
[18:57] <shadeslayer> oh ok :)
[18:57] <Brian_> that was a in advance ok lol
[18:58] <Brian_> i just got a pop up that says configureing kdm
[18:58] <Brian_> stop the kdm daemon
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Brian_: say yes
[18:58] <Brian_> ok
[18:59] <willfaya> salut
[18:59] <Brian_> just did autoremove
[19:00] <shadeslayer> Brian_: also while installing kubuntu-desktop do have a look at the packages being downloaded,they should be 4.2.3
[19:00] <Brian_> k
[19:00] <Brian_> now for the main event
[19:00] <ubsafder> how do i set synaptic to only download to its cache
[19:00] <Brian_> install
[19:01] <Brian_> no go
[19:01] <Brian_> unmet dependencies
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ubsafder: theres a option to create a script,if you do that itll just create a script and the when you run the script itll just download the files
[19:02] <Brian_> kdepasswd  konqueror,
[19:02] <shadeslayer> Brian_: i really think you removed more than just the backports line
[19:02] <mole42> now
[19:02] <mole42> err
[19:02] <mole42> i had the sameproblem
[19:02] <mole42> just install with -f
[19:02] <FloodBotK2> mole42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <mole42> lol
[19:02] <mole42> fuck off
[19:03] <shadeslayer> Brian_: sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop
[19:03] <Brian_> ok
[19:03] <shadeslayer> mole42: mind the language
[19:03] <ubsafder> once downloaded how should i install all of them in the "good"order
[19:03] <mole42> mind the bot
[19:03] <Brian_> nope
[19:03] <shadeslayer> ubsafder: you can point synaptic to the folder (dont remember how thoug)
[19:03] <shadeslayer> Brian_: what happened?
[19:04] <Brian_> still  depends kdepasswd konqueror  and konqueror plugin and shortcuts
[19:04] <shadeslayer> ubsafder: and synaptic autoinstalls all .debs
[19:04] <Brian_> e:broken packages
[19:05] <shadeslayer> Brian_: can you save a fresh sources.list and replace it with the present one?
[19:05] <darthtuvok> we get all kind of slobs in here
[19:05] <Brian_> if i can ya . how do i do that
[19:05] <shadeslayer> Brian_: what version of kubuntu?
[19:05] <Brian_> find a list online then just copy everything over
[19:06] <shadeslayer> Brian_: ill have you wget the .txt file
[19:06] <Brian_> linuxmint kde
[19:06] <Brian_> but its just kubuntu
[19:06] <shadeslayer> Brian_: you didnt tell me that you had mint!!!
[19:06] <shadeslayer> !mint | Brian_
[19:07] <Brian_> didnt think it would mater
[19:07] <shadeslayer> Brian_: uh i think it would
[19:07] <Brian_> they all say goto the kubuntu room for help
[19:07] <darthanubis> Brian_: just drop it, "we" are very anal about it:)
[19:07] <Brian_> :(
[19:07] <shadeslayer> Brian_: im sorry but i cannot help you further,since this is a kubuntu support channel not a mint support channe;
[19:08] <shadeslayer> *channel
[19:08] <darthanubis> Brian_: never mention mint in channels ubuntu, and NEVER mention ubuntu in debian channels
[19:08] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:08] <Brian_> holly crap man how am i supose to know about a turf war
[19:08] <Brian_> im new to this stuff
[19:08] <darthanubis> Brian_: Just lie when they ask you which distro you are running...ok?
[19:09] <Brian_> i was
[19:09] <darthanubis> Mint really has NO support
[19:09] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: no! that could make problems worse
[19:09] <Brian_> im really running kubuntu
[19:09] <darthanubis> shadeslayer: well that will be his problem
[19:09] <darthanubis> and then he would have learned that there is a difference
[19:09] <Brian_> you had me uninstall of that and now your going to leave me hangin thats messed up
[19:10] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: no that will be the problem of the person who advised him to do the stuff
[19:10] <darthanubis> but between mint and ubuntu is laughable, between debian and the rest there is a difference that matters, thats all I have to say about that
[19:10] <darthanubis> shadeslayer: not in my reality
[19:10] <shadeslayer> Brian_: this is your own doing,you told me you had kubuntu
[19:10] <darthanubis> see
[19:10] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: you do not live in reality then
[19:10] <darthanubis> you just said it was HIS doing, not yours
[19:11] <darthanubis> shadeslayer: ok anon dude, I believe you
[19:11] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: yes,because HE told me he had kubuntu
[19:11]  * darthanubis rolls eyes
[19:11] <shadeslayer> Brian_: try with : sudo apt-get -f install
[19:11] <shadeslayer> thats all i can do
[19:11] <Brian_> everyone in the mint channel said goto kubuntu channel for help  its kubuntu you have
[19:12] <shadeslayer> Brian_: tell them you have mint not kubuntu
[19:12] <darthanubis> Brian_: slow learner huh? STOP mentioning Mint dude
[19:12] <Brian_> mint mint mint mint mint
[19:12] <darthanubis> lol, idiot
[19:12] <shadeslayer> Brian_: last suggestion : since kubuntu offers more support install kubuntu :P
[19:12] <Brian_> well shit what does it matter
[19:13] <darthanubis> !language
[19:13] <Brian_> sorry
[19:13] <Brian_> well can you at lease help me get the source list
[19:13] <darthanubis> just do what the deemer of all reality suggested
[19:14] <shadeslayer> Brian_: i was going to give you a ubuntu sources list,but since you have mint i have no idea on their sources.list
[19:15] <Brian_> they are the same list  i have ran both and seen both the list i have now says ubuntu and kubuntu on it
[19:15] <shadeslayer> Brian_: and yet you say you have mint? this seems all messed up
[19:15] <Brian_> they run all of kubuntus repos
[19:15] <Kittykis> m*** site says compatible with jaunty + repositories
[19:15] <Kittykis> for gloria at least
[19:15] <Brian_> thats wat i got
[19:16] <Brian_> thanks kitty
[19:16] <shadeslayer> Kittykis: you have ideas to help this guy...be my guest,but not on this channel
[19:16] <Brian_> wow man your a a..hole
[19:16] <helpmeplz> does anyone know a R.A.T that works with wine on linux [preferably reverse connection]
[19:17] <shadeslayer> helpmeplz: did you have look at the appdb?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> helpmeplz: also please get rid of the annoying nick
[19:18] <helpmeplz> yuppp, poison ivy doesnt work and thats about all they have
[19:18] <annoyance_> ok done
[19:18] <annoyance_> shadeslayer: the appdb only has poison ivy which is not meant to work
[19:19] <shadeslayer> annoyance_: 1)Dont know what R.A.T is,2)app db is all i know about
[19:19] <annoyance_> ok then your not much use if you dont know what a rat is
[19:19] <annoyance_> no offence lol
[19:20] <shadeslayer> annoyance_: i dont know what rat is so idk what youre saying :P
[19:20] <annoyance_> i know u dunno
[19:21] <shadeslayer> annoyance_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat?
[19:21] <annoyance_> nope
[19:21] <annoyance_> try
[19:21] <annoyance_> remote administration tool
[19:21] <annoyance_> or remote access tool
[19:21] <annoyance_> or remote access trojan
[19:21] <shadeslayer> ooh
[19:21] <annoyance_> etc..
[19:21] <shadeslayer> !remote
[19:22] <shadeslayer> annoyance_: theres a remote desktop sharing tool in the repos
[19:22] <annoyance_> no not that
[19:22] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:22] <annoyance_> all of these rats are for windoze
[19:22] <annoyance_> they let u have control over another persons swindoze
[19:23] <shadeslayer> annoyance_: never heard of these "tools"
[19:23] <annoyance_> i know
[19:25]  * shadeslayer goes and checks out some SVN'x
[19:28] <darthanubis> is there a easy way to add feed to akreg. from within FF3.5?
[19:28] <darthanubis> http://benkay.net/blog/2009/04/adding-feeds-to-akregator-from-firefox/
[19:29] <darthanubis> Because using a script for this functionality is lame
[19:29] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: drag and drop?
[19:29] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: also see the RSS Now plasmoid
[19:30] <darthanubis> I know about the plasmoid, and it has nada to do with my query.
[19:30] <waltzingalong> remote admin tool? you mean ssh? :D landscape?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: ok,try dragging and dropping the feed then
[19:30] <darthanubis> lol
[19:31] <darthanubis> I'm not going to try your totally random shots in the dark
[19:31] <kennethaar> Hi. How do I connect to my existing session thorugh vnc? I only seem to be able to connect to a strange screen with a console window in the upper left corner. Where I can start different apps, but it is not what I am after . I want to connect to my KDE desktop...What Am i messing up?
[19:31] <darthanubis> you either know or you don't
[19:31] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: ive never used akregattor
[19:32] <waltzingalong> kennethaar: you want to vnc client to a running x session? you could use x11vnc to hook to your existing x session, which then allows vnc access to it
[19:32] <J2daosh> what is the fastest cracker yall know of?
[19:32] <J2daosh> JTR?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> J2daosh: cracker?
[19:32] <J2daosh> yeah, /etc/shadow
[19:32] <kennethaar> waltzingalong: So I just install x11vnc?
[19:33] <waltzingalong> !info x11vnc | kennethaar
[19:34] <waltzingalong> kennethaar: i also see a link for krfb in my menu but i have not used that
[19:34] <J2daosh> im trying to crack a server i got from work that is like 5 years old and they never repurposed
[19:34] <J2daosh> so its just been sitting there and they said to take it
[19:34] <J2daosh> but i dont want to do a reformat if i dont have to
[19:35] <J2daosh> so i would rather just crack the pw's and go from there
[19:35] <J2daosh> if i need to i will reinstall, but they have drivers for the raid an such already installed that i dont have and dont even know the name of to find them
[19:35] <shadeslayer> J2daosh: ah..no idea,try asking in #ubuntu-server too,it wont hurt
[19:35] <rikkardo> Hi everibody!!
[19:35] <rikkardo> Anyone can help me?
[19:36] <shadeslayer> !ask | rikkardo
[19:36] <waltzingalong> !ask | rikkardo
[19:36] <shadeslayer> waltzingalong: hehe
[19:36] <waltzingalong> :D
[19:36] <rikkardo> I've some problems with the scripts of nautilus
[19:37] <shadeslayer> rikkardo: #ubuntu then
[19:37] <kennethaar> waltzingalong: krfb was what I was using but with vnc protocol
[19:37] <rikkardo> it's ok that I can see the script's menu only when I'm as root?
[19:38] <kennethaar> waltzingalong: sorry I was wrong I was using krdc...
[19:39] <waltzingalong> !info krfb | kennethaar
[19:40] <snarkster> ive been trying to get the sensor applet/widget to work.. how do you get that to work?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> snarkster: you need lm-sensors
[19:41] <snarkster> anyone else been able to get that to work?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> !lmsensors | snarkster
[19:41] <snarkster> lm-sensors is installed
[19:41] <shadeslayer> snarkster: did you run the script to detect the sensors?
[19:41] <snarkster> what script
[19:42] <shadeslayer> snarkster: see the link
[19:42] <shadeslayer> snarkster: see steps 2-4 specially
[19:44] <shadeslayer> bye all
[19:46] <siddharta> hi everyone
[19:49] <cereza> hoooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:49] <siddharta> I'm using Kubuntu 8.04.3, connecting a USB hard disk, can't create folder/file with accents (eg. aéíóú) because /etc/.hal-mtab says it is "locale=en_US" and I need to change it so it can be set to "locale=en_US,utf8,locale=en_US.UTF-8"
[19:50] <snarkster> nope still nothing
[19:51] <siddharta> I know I can add an entry on /etc/fstab but I want to be able just to plug de harddisk, not to mount/umount ... just like the rest of the USB pendrives I connect
[19:52] <siddharta> I have read some forums and they said udev should use UTF8 automatically, but I don't know what to do ...
[19:52] <kennethaar> waltzingalong: x11vnc worked ! Thank you very much..
[19:52] <waltzingalong> kennethaar: cheers
[20:18] <baconomas> kubuntu en español
[20:36] <timdl> hello,im using kubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)
[20:37] <timdl> when i try to send a file via bluetooth to my phone i get "org.openobex.Error.NotFound"
[20:37] <timdl> any way to fix this ?
[20:41] <zoiss> hello guys. when i boot kubuntu, the mixer settings are restored correctly but a few seconds later volumes are changed (e.g. master volume = 0) ...kmix is set not to change settings at startup ...how can i find out which proc is touching those settings?
[20:43] <anr78> What is it that makes Ubuntu automatically locate my Macintosh HD, and how can I make it mount automatically on boot?
[20:45] <mni> hi all
[20:45] <mni> how can i install downloaded firefox browser in kubuntu
[20:46] <mni> Any help?
[20:47] <mni> Any help?
[20:48] <lyhana8> hi, why does my ati worked on hardy with the ATI driver and no longer work on jaunty ?
[20:48] <lyhana8> plus xorg.conf is empty where are the config then ?
[20:49] <anr78> lyhana8: #ati could be a good place to ask
[20:49] <mni> i just need the sudo command to install firefox browser:any help?
[20:50] <lyhana8> anr78: I think the empty xorg can be part of the issue
[20:50] <lyhana8> mni: apt-get install firefox-3.5
[20:50] <timdl> getting org.openobex.Error.ServerError when i try to send file to my phone via bluetooth on kubuntu 9.04
[20:50] <mni> ok
[20:50] <mni> thanks
[20:50] <lyhana8> mni: or for the 3.0.* : apt-get install firefox
[20:50] <timdl> any way to fix this issue ?
[20:51] <mni> ok
[20:51] <timdl> also unable to send files the other way round
[20:51] <anr78> lyhana8: entirely empty, or just a lot smaller than before? I know there has been some changes in X so it is meant to be smaller than before
[20:51] <timdl> kdebluetooth is installed
[20:51] <timdl> what could be causing this ?
[20:51] <lyhana8> anr78: empty... I heard from gentoo community that some conf move to /etc/hal
[20:53] <timdl> is this a bug in kbluetooth4 ?
[20:54] <mostafa_> timdl: yeah it has bug with sending
[20:55] <timdl> mostafa: but im also unable to receive files i send from my phone
[20:55] <timdl> any way around these problems ?
[20:56] <mostafa_> type bluetooth-sendto in terminal
[20:56] <timdl> mostafa_: ok
[20:56] <mostafa_> then send a file for checking
[20:57] <timdl> mostafa_: typing bluetooth-sendto says command not found
[20:57] <timdl> mostafa_: any package i need to install for that ?
[20:59] <timdl> mostafa_: i already have kdebluetooth installed, should i also try installing gnome-bluetooth ?
[21:00] <mostafa_> timdl: type this sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-gnome bluez
[21:00] <mostafa_> yep you must install these
[21:00] <timdl> mostafa_: ok
[21:01] <timdl> mostafa_: ok
[21:02] <timdl> mostafa_: i ran the command "sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez-gnome bluez", and after installation , the kdebluetooth icon disappeared from my system tray
[21:04] <mostafa_> timdl: np type the bluetooth-sendto
[21:04] <mostafa_> does it work?
[21:04] <timdl> mostafa_: now after typing bluetooth-sendto i was able to send a file :)
[21:04] <timdl> but still unable to receive
[21:06] <mostafa_> timdl: what happend that you can't recieve?
[21:07] <Oceanwatcher> Anyone here know how to update Amarok from 2.1 to 2.1.1? I already have Kubuntu-ppa and Kubuntu backports enabled and there is no upgrade offered...
[21:08] <timdl> mostafa_: it says "sending failed" on my phone
[21:08] <mostafa_> timdl: what do you send file from?
[21:09] <timdl> mostafa_: from my E71 phone
[21:09] <timdl> via bluetooth
[21:10] <mostafa_> timdl: can you find the pc or labtop with your phone?
[21:10] <timdl> mostafa_: yes
[21:12] <mostafa_> timdl: can you reboot maybe it is the cause of that?
[21:12] <timdl> mostafa_: ok, ill try that
[21:17] <mostafa_> Oceanwatcher: i think maybe it is not yet available with the repository
[21:17] <mostafa_> that we add
[21:19] <timdl> mostafa_: thanks a lot !! :)....after rebooting im able to receive files over bluetooth from my phone , and to send files am using bluetooth-sendto
[21:19] <timdl> thank you very much :)
[21:20] <mostafa_> timdl: yw bro glad to hear  you solved your problem
[21:20] <mostafa_> :D
[21:21] <timdl> mostafa_: all thanks to u :)
[21:23] <mostafa_> timdl: my timezone is late around 1:00 AM good luck to you
[21:23] <mostafa_> timdl: bye
[21:23] <timdl> mostafa_: bye :)
[21:48] <e370> hi
[21:49] <e370> anyone in
[21:49] <e370> phil
[21:49] <e370> :)
[21:55] <xephexx> this is my first time using irc
[21:56] <e370> me 2, well via ubuntu anyway
[22:05] <e370> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[22:07] <kaddi1> e370, ubuntu has gnome as displaymanager and kubuntu has kde as displaymanager
[22:07] <e370> they look the same on wiki
[22:07] <kaddi1> do you have the links?
[22:08] <e370> 1 sec
[22:09] <kaddi1> e370, they differ in configurability and the default programs that are installed on your system. (amarok, konqueror, okular against rythmbox, epiphany and evince)
[22:09] <e370> rythmbox is on ubuntu
[22:09] <kaddi1> yep
[22:09] <e370> n yh ur right the desktops r different
[22:10] <e370> i was lookin at an older version
[22:10] <e370> d'oh
[22:10] <kaddi1> :) it might have been a mistake on wikipedia as well. I was just curious
[22:10] <e370> i ment kde and kubuntu look alike
[22:11] <kaddi1> e370,  yes that's normal, since kde is the displaymanager of kubuntu :)
[22:11] <e370> can it be downloded as kde?
[22:12] <e370> i dont know which linux to install on my netbook, ubuntu, kde or gnome
[22:12] <e370> it has a 8gb hdd
[22:12] <kaddi1> e370, ubuntu can be used with either kde or gnome,.
[22:12] <e370> lol
[22:13] <e370> hope it can be upgraded cos 8gb isnt much
[22:13] <blaubeere> I was going to say you can download both and use them alternatingly, but I suppose that is not an optin then
[22:14] <kaddi> I was going to say you can download both and use them alternatingly, but I suppose that is not an optin then
[22:14] <kaddi> if you are low on harddiskspace
[22:14] <darthanubis> I would say keep reading about your options
[22:14] <e370> i mite ask some dumb questions
[22:14] <e370> :D
[22:14] <e370> can linux be run off a usb flash drive
[22:15] <darthanubis> they are only dumb uf you did not seek knowledge first
[22:15] <darthanubis> if
[22:15] <e370> my netbook doesnt have a cd/dvd player
[22:16] <darthanubis> e370: so install from usb
[22:16] <e370> thought i could
[22:16] <e370> theres a thing here on ubuntu that says usb startup disk creator
[22:16] <mrcognitive> can anyone help me with installing the new adobe flash for ubuntu ?
[22:17] <kaddi> mrcognitive,  what is the problem?
[22:17] <mrcognitive> the flash i am currently running for firefox is out of date . so now i can not watch any movies . they are al asking for 10. 0 or higher
[22:18] <mrcognitive> i went to the adobe flash home page but nothing is compatible with my system i guess .
[22:18] <kaddi> type "apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer" into your commandline what does it say?
[22:19] <mrcognitive> one sec
[22:19] <e370> is mine upto date
[22:19] <e370> Installed: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1
[22:19] <e370>   Candidate: 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1
[22:19] <e370>   Version table:
[22:19] <e370>  *** 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1 0
[22:19] <FloodBotK2> e370: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <e370> oops
[22:19] <e370> how noobish of me
[22:20] <kaddi> e370, that looks up to date
[22:20] <e370> 32GB pen drive should be enough to run linux off right?
[22:21] <kaddi> much more then enough :p
[22:21] <e370> neat
[22:21] <darthanubis> nobody believes in teaching a man HOW to fish instead of spoon feeding him the fish anymore?
[22:21] <e370> i love fishing :D
[22:21] <e370> i lernt by trial n error
[22:21] <mrcognitive>  Installed: (none)
[22:21] <darthanubis> the keyword there being trial
[22:21] <mrcognitive>   Candidate: (none)
[22:21] <mrcognitive>   Version table:
[22:22] <mrcognitive> W: Unable to locate package installer
[22:22] <mrcognitive> mrcognitive@ubuntu:~$
[22:22] <mrcognitive> this is what has showed up
[22:22] <kaddi> mrcognitive, have you installed a flash alternative like gnash or swdfec on your system?
[22:22] <e370> darthanubis: yes im noobish to most things
[22:22] <mrcognitive> you mean a plug in for firefox ?
[22:23] <darthanubis> e370: I'm not talking about anyone specific I'm just saying
[22:23] <kaddi> yeah, what flash have you been using so far?
[22:23] <mrcognitive> at first i was running flashplayer none free
[22:23] <e370> mrcognitive: applications > add/remove > search adobe , tick, apply ;)
[22:23] <e370> installed
[22:23] <e370> :)
[22:24] <kaddi> yes, that would be the adobe plugin
[22:24] <darthanubis> people need to learn how to use there systems. Like driving a car or anything else one does.
[22:24] <mrcognitive> using a computer is nothing like driving a car
[22:24] <e370> using linux isn't lol
[22:24] <darthanubis> so you have to at least know how to read your documentation and at the very least how to use a search engine
[22:24] <xenthral> dont linux and drive
[22:24] <xenthral> good friends keep friends from sudoing while drunk
[22:25] <darthanubis> mrcognitive: sure it is
[22:25] <kaddi> lol
[22:25] <e370> not like linux comes with a manual
[22:25] <e370> ...
[22:25] <darthanubis> e370: comes with plenty manuals
[22:25] <darthanubis> you know like man apt?
[22:25] <e370> where?
[22:25] <darthanubis> type it
[22:25] <e370> ive found none so far
[22:25] <kaddi> command line
[22:25] <darthanubis> man apt
[22:26] <darthanubis> geez my point exactly
[22:26] <darthanubis> at least get a linux book from the library
[22:26] <darthanubis> if your real lazy like me, read about it online using GOOGLE
[22:26] <e370> or amazon
[22:26] <e370> :)
[22:26] <kaddi> mrcognitive,  what did you do after you "first used" flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:26] <darthanubis> your like 1 sec away from being informed if you have broadband
[22:27] <e370> eh?
[22:27] <darthanubis> on ANY subject
[22:27] <e370> yes i told u
[22:27] <e370> i am noobish
[22:27] <kaddi> and half of the information is incorrect or incomplete
[22:27] <darthanubis> don't waste your monthly subcription living in the dark ages
[22:27] <e370> ive used windows upp till now
[22:27] <kaddi> or outdated
[22:27] <mrcognitive> when i first installed it it was through the terminol , i upgraded the cpu and for some reason none of it worked
[22:27] <darthanubis> there is nothing too outdated to tell you you need to install applications for functionality
[22:28] <mrcognitive> also , there is no such program located under add/ remove
[22:28] <darthanubis> !flash
[22:28] <darthanubis> mrcognitive: follow that link and the instructions to the letter
[22:28] <e370> should be :S
[22:28] <e370> i found it earlier
[22:29] <darthanubis> !install
[22:29] <darthanubis> e370: you read that
[22:29] <e370> thanks
[22:29] <darthanubis> np
[22:29] <e370> does it print out
[22:29] <darthanubis> I'm here to help, but don't waste our time. We are volunteers:) I'm being funny, take no offense.
[22:30] <darthanubis> But seriously though...don't waste my time:-P
[22:30]  * abalone advertises Christopher Negus' and Francois Caen's book Ubuntu Linux Toolbox 
[22:30] <kaddi> see and that link assumes that no gnash or swefdec is installed..
[22:30] <e370> im trying not to lol
[22:30] <darthanubis> There is a free pdf online about ubuntu
[22:30] <e370> just have no idea about ubuntu
[22:31] <e370> u can help me
[22:31] <e370> on a few things
[22:31] <e370> if u wish
[22:32] <e370> :)
[22:32] <kaddi> !eol
[22:32] <StupidWeasel> [amsg] Bored & going to find something fun to do. Goodnight folks.
[22:32] <e370> darth you there?
[22:32] <darthanubis> e370: I already helped you, read. Search and then read some more. THEN ask informed questions
[22:33] <e370> i know but that doesnt cover my questions
[22:33] <e370> :P
[22:33] <darthanubis> That is how you fish!
[22:34] <darthanubis> You don't HAVE ANY INFORMED questions.
[22:34] <e370> yes i do
[22:34] <darthanubis> ;)
[22:34] <e370> :D
[22:34] <darthanubis> shoot
[22:35] <e370> ok i was using a wired network and it was fine for about 30-40 mins, then a thing showed up and said the network has been disconnected, ever since its showing up as disconnected but the wires are plugged in and working fine
[22:39] <e370> kaddi?
[22:40] <kaddi> e370, I don't know what the problem might be, but as long as it works, I wouldn't bother too much about it :)
[22:41] <e370> it doesnt thoe
[22:41] <e370> im connected via wireless
[22:41] <e370> i wanted wired network because im quite far from the router n theres alot of interferance
[22:42] <kaddi> I'm sorry I'm exclusively using wireless, so I don't know much about lan... have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting the cable? :p
[22:42] <e370> yea
[22:42] <e370> even got a new 1
[22:42] <e370> lol
[22:43] <Serpardum> I'm (still) confused by this.  In my C++ I'm using the asm code: outb %b0, %w1   and outl %0,%w1.  However, when I look in my Intel manual, they have only OUT, not outb or outl.  I want to out a 16 bit value, I can guess it would be outw but that's a guess.  What manual/document am I missing?
[22:46] <abalone> http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/manual/253665.pdf mentions outw (output word)
[22:49] <Serpardum> ahhh, thanks.  I was looking in Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual Volume 2B Instruction Set Reference N-Z
[22:49] <abalone> I really haven't a clue about this, I just went to ask.com and said "intel manual assembler outw" ;)
[22:49] <abalone> page 225, chapter 7.3.11
[22:50] <Serpardum> there are 8 different manuals ^^
[22:50] <Serpardum> I have them all DLed
[22:50] <abalone> the one I found was the top search result
[22:50] <Serpardum> I was trying google
[22:50] <Serpardum> googling wrong.  Didn't think to add intel manaul
[22:50] <Serpardum> *manual
[22:51] <abalone> Intel® 64 and IA-32 Architectures
[22:51] <abalone> Software Developer’s Manual
[22:52] <Serpardum> Hmm. it mentions OUTB, OUTW and OUTD but I'm using outb, outw and outl.  (L instead of D).
[22:52] <Serpardum> I just want to make sure it's tryign to write the correct number of bits ^^
[22:53] <abalone> I can't help you with that, I'm just a search engine operator ;)
[22:54] <Serpardum> yeah, outl is not in there
[23:27] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[23:27] <lifeofguenter> using the new kubuntu 9.10 alpha, was just wondering, has anyone set multiple monitors with that yet?
[23:28] <lifeofguenter> under system settings -> display -> multiple monitors there is just a message saying basically I do not have it configured
[23:28] <lifeofguenter> but how/where can I configure it?
[23:32] <abalone> I've always configured monitors in xorg.conf...
[23:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Kubuntu >8.4 seems to handle more than one pretty badly.
[23:34] <lifeofguenter> abalone: me too.. but since 9.10 there is not even a xorg.conf existing
[23:34] <abalone> wha....what?
[23:34] <abalone> oh no
[23:35] <abalone> where am I going to set my game- and emulation-friendly metamodes?
[23:35] <lifeofguenter> I used to use xrandr since 8.04 (though under gnome/xfce)
[23:35] <zch-rs> when i download an application  as an archive, how do i get it to show up in my applications menu?
[23:35] <lifeofguenter> well usually you don't need messing up with the xorg.conf anyway.. especially if you are going with xrandr
[23:36] <lifeofguenter> but I would just like to go the "kde-way" when using multple monitor
[23:36] <abalone> I've never used that, l_o_guenter
[23:36] <abalone> and I'm not using KDE only
[23:36] <lifeofguenter> really not? what version of kde / ubuntu are you using?
[23:36] <abalone> 9.04 KDE 4.3
[23:37] <lifeofguenter> and you still mess around with the xorg.conf?
[23:37] <abalone> I don't mess around with it, I just use it
[23:37] <lifeofguenter> :)
[23:37] <abalone> unlike krandr it doesn't crash X
[23:38] <abalone> or give me a 1600 pixel desktop at a 1400 pixel resolution
[23:39] <eitreach_> I'm having some problems with Amarok 2. It won't play mp3s, and says that pulseaudio isn't working. When I test them however, it works fine. Just not in amarok. Any suggestions?
[23:41] <abalone> guenter, what would be the "new" way to get dual monitors for me? (nvidia)
[23:41] <lifeofguenter> if you are lucky and your card is supported by oss-drivers
[23:42] <lifeofguenter> you could try xrandr.. - but I have no idea how this works on kde.. i am comming from gnome/xfce
[23:44] <luca> ciao
[23:44] <luca> a chi posso chiedere una informazione?
[23:45] <maco> luca: #ubuntu-it
[23:45] <luca> #ubuntu-it
[23:46] <maco> luca: por italiano
[23:46] <lifeofguenter> :D
[23:46] <abalone> my card is supported by the proprietary "nvidia" driver, and I'm using what I suppose is a proprietary nVidia "method" - called TwinView. There's "krandrtray" but it only lets me switch between modes already configured in xorg.conf. I can't set anything up with it, it seems. I can do that with the nvidia-settings tool (which will write to xorg.conf, so that's nothing new either)
[23:46] <maco> lifeofguenter: do you speak italian?
[23:46] <maco> lifeofguenter: im just going "umm..i dont think they used para like in spanish when i was there...ummm..."
[23:47] <luca> mercy
[23:47] <maco> luca: mercy = grazi?
[23:47] <lifeofguenter> maco: no..
[23:47] <maco> lifeofguenter: oh went :D so i was wondering if you were laughing at my attempt to guess how to say "for"
[23:48] <lifeofguenter> maco: hehe no no I was just "smiling" seeing he posted the irc-chan instead of actually entering it
[23:49] <maco> lifeofguenter: oh ok
[23:49] <kaddi1> hi, i'm updating from gutsy to hardy right now and the guide in the end says to run "sudo do-release-upgrade" that command returns "no new version found" though, I'm wondering if I did something wrong?
[23:49] <kaddi1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#7.10%20to%208.04%20%28Gutsy%20to%20Hardy%29 that's the instructions I'M following
[23:50] <maco> kaddi1: lsb_release -a
[23:50] <maco> kaddi1: you may be done
[23:50] <kaddi1> maco that still says gutsy
[23:51] <maco> kaddi1: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:51] <Serraphyn> Hi guys
[23:51] <kaddi1> maco what has me confused is that the guide says to update the sources.list, and then immediately runs do-release-update , no apt-get update or anything
[23:51] <maco> kaddi1: thats not right
[23:51] <eitreach_> This is strange.. When I use "Files" in Amarok 2, sound works nicely.. But when I try from my collection, it doesn't.
[23:51] <maco> kaddi1: do-release-upgrade edits sources.list for you. it probably is looking at sources.list and going "oh, already at lts. BAIL!"
[23:52] <maco> kaddi1: put it back to gutsy then run "sudo do-release-upgrade" and it shoudl change sources.list and upgrade you all in one
[23:52] <mozillo> hello world
[23:53] <kaddi1> ok, maco, I'm just mentioning that here, because this is the guide linked in !eolupgrade.
[23:53] <maco> kaddi1: whoever typed it screwed up maybe...
[23:53] <Serraphyn> anyone here able to help me get decent video quality in kde? I am using SIS framebuffer
[23:54] <kaddi1> maco it has you run a perlscript replacing gutsy with hardy, then running do_release_upgrade and then saying that one is finished. So it might need some editing
[23:54] <maco> kaddi1: do-release-upgrade should be the only thing required
[23:55] <maco> kaddi1: oh!
[23:55] <maco> kaddi1: i see. i thought youd changed "gutsy" to "hardy" all over...hmm that old-releases thing isnt something ive seen before
[23:57] <maco> kaddi1: ok just read the whole thing now :P after you have gutsy all the way up to date, it should be changed back to not having old-releases, but you shouldnt change gutsy to hardy throughout the file because then itll confuse do-release-upgrade, i think