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maxbwgrant: I don't have ~launchpad/ppa but given it has nothing published for karmic, that shouldn't matter02:21
maxbmeh02:21
maxboh well, I can either treat this as cause to dig into the code, or I can treat those as known failures regradless and start trying to get some of my extant changes landed02:22
wgrantmaxb: I have the ~launchpad/ppa's jaunty enabled.02:22
wgrantmaxb: Let's see what I have installed from there...02:23
maxbhmm02:23
maxblxml and setuptools updates, it looks like02:33
wgrantmaxb: Something like that. It's hard to tell what's from which PPA.02:47
wgrantAfter activating those PPAs, I upgraded, installed python2.4 and python-celementtree, and built LP.02:47
wgrantAnd it all magically worked.02:47
pooliehello wgrant02:47
wgrantHi poolie.02:47
wgrantpoolie: That's a strange hostname for you...02:48
pooliemm02:50
pooliei'm at coscup.org02:50
pooliein Taipei02:50
wgrantpoolie: Ahh.02:51
wgrantNice new footer.06:19
wgrantIs launchpad-buildd still part of RF? The version there is rather old. I'm wondering because it doesn't work properly with karmic as a host, and it'd be best to fix a non-obsolete version...11:23
cprov-afkwgrant: yes, it is (lib/canonical/buildd).  It probably doesn't work for karmic as it is, I have a patch from Adam.12:46
wgrantcprov-afk: Right, I know it's there, but from what I've seen there have been a few changes in production since the version in LP.13:03
cprov-afkwgrant: yes, 3 new versions IIRC. I'm pushing a branch, so you can check.13:04
cprov-afkwgrant: lp:~cprov/launchpad/lp-buildd-karmic13:07
wgrantcprov-afk: Ah, excellent. Thanks.13:07
wgrantEverything else is now working perfectly on karmic.13:07
cprov-afkwgrant: re. bug #413922, it does render correctly (somehow), right ?13:08
mupBug #413922: "supported version of Ubuntu" link on ArchiveActivateView broken <Soyuz:In Progress by cprov> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/413922>13:08
cprov-afkwgrant: it's just a misleading TAL instruction.13:08
wgrantcprov-afk: It renders a link to something like '/~person/<a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu>Ubuntu</a>'.13:09
wgrantSo no, it doesn't work.13:09
wgrantedge is really out of date -- it was broken in the 3.0 migration.13:09
cprov-afkwgrant: oh, f.. yes, edge is old.13:10
wgrantReally old.13:10
cprov-afkwgrant: ha, staging is up.13:11
wgrantBarely..13:12
wgrantThe problem is indeed visible there.13:12
cprov-afkwgrant: right ... works for this specific prob.13:12
wgrantAlong with a conflict between the 2.0 and 3.0 styles, which should be fixed once person-ppas is 3.0ised.13:13
=== cprov-afk is now known as faces
=== faces is now known as cprov
* cprov hides somewhere.13:24
wgrantI suspect this new lp-buildd will fail in a similarly obscure way, but let's see...13:25
wgrantcprov: Ah, interesting. That fixed the particularly confusing problem, although it still doesn't quite work without a patch.13:40
wgrant(dpkg-source's output changed recently. Debian's sbuild was patched to no longer parse its output 18 months ago, but this sbuild seems muuuch older than that.)13:41
maxbWhy does the dev setup use two different IP addresses? It appears to just be in support of running bazaar.launchpad.dev on a separate IP - why is that?13:45
wgrantmaxb: the bazaar vhost is completely different from the others.13:47
wgrantBut it still needs SSL.13:47
wgrantAnd SSL doesn't do multiple vhosts on one IP address.13:47
wgrant(unless you use SNI, which Ubuntu doesn't support yet)13:47
maxbWhy does the bazaar vhost need SSL?13:49
maxbhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/ seems perfectly happy to talk to me13:49
wgrantBecause it does in production, to protect cookies.13:49
maxbOh, loggerheading of private branches?13:49
wgrant(for private codebrowse)13:49
wgrantRight.13:49
* maxb is attempting to make13:50
maxboops13:50
* maxb is attempting to make dev.lp.net/Running/RemoteAccess saner, and would be happy to drop the requirement for multiple IPs13:50
wgrantMaybe in a release or two.13:50
maxbWell, dev.lp.net/Running/RemoteAccess is a bit of a hack anyway :-)13:51
wgrantIndeed.13:51
wgrantmaxb: Still no luck with getting tests to pass?13:52
maxbNope, I think it's dig-into-the-code time13:52
wgrantDamn.13:52
maxbI just need to decide whether I do that now, or just ignore those two tests and press on with landing some of the py2.5 changes I've already accumulated13:55
maxbSwitching topics: Is there a statement from Canonical explaining its rationale in choice of license for Launchpad icing/images?13:56
wgrantkfogel might have mentioned it in a comment on a blog post, but I don't recall anything official.13:57
wgrantAlthough it's pretty obvious why.13:57
maxbWell, there's multiple aspects and it's not entirely obvious.13:57
wgrantThat's true. I can think of two big ones.13:58
maxbFor example, I'd love to use Malone for both non-profit private projects, and attempt to convince my company to use it.13:59
maxbNeither of those are ever going to be revenue stream for Canonical, nor damage Launchpad's cohesive one-place-for-OSS position13:59
wgrantThe second could be a revenue stream, if companies get on the ooh-cloudy bandwagon.14:00
maxbIf I can't do those, it would be nice to know why exactly :-)14:00
maxbMy company will never buy into putting its bugtracking info on a 3rd party server14:00

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