=== bjf is now known as bjf-afk === playya_ is now known as playya [16:23] hey, i just tried out mer 0.15 on my n810 and thought i'd try changing the apt sources and installing ubuntu on top of that.. would it work? [16:23] I see no reason why not [16:30] what I can't seem to figure out is what the apt sources are, surely there are arm repos? [16:31] poutsi: You'll have to ensure mer-0.15 and whichever version of Ubuntu you are wanting to install [16:31] poutsi: use the same toolchain (gcc, g++, binutils, bison, m4, gdb, GNU Autotools, et cetera. [16:33] hmm [16:33] poutsi: By "apt sources" are you asking about obtaining source (un-compiled) DEB-file components [16:33] poutsi: Or are you asking about where to find the sources.list apt-get _binary_ URLs/entries? [16:33] installing directly on top would've saved me the trouble of flashing an image, since mer had an installer... [16:33] I'm asking about binaries [16:34] poutsi You can run binaries that are not toolchain compatible, as long as they are compiled statically, but that's a whole other debate. [16:36] poutsi: if you want binaries, then you'll have to get the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz, and diff.gz files and build them yourself on top of mer. [16:37] alright [16:37] poutsi: http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/qemu has examples of the compilation dependencies and source files you'd have to grab for compilation. [16:39] poutsi: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html all sections are relevant, but 7.13 and 7.14 seem to be the most relevant to your question. (Sorry, I just skimmed the doc) [16:40] poutsi: I'd have used ax example from packages.ubuntu.com, but my browser is telling me it's unreachable. (I blame my ISP.) [16:40] thanks a bunch, I'll take a look [16:41] I guess my ultimate goal would be to get the netbook remix running on this n810 [16:41] it was pretty nice on an intel laptop [16:41] poutsi: You're welcome :) If you have questions, and I'm on, either drop back in, or PM me. [16:59] poutsi: There are also different build-targets for ARM which Ubuntu is is using. [16:59] poutsi: ARMv7 (the μarch to be used in Nokia's next-gen "RX-51" tablet is a given. [16:59] poutsi: Ubuntu is also targeting ARMv6 (which is in the N800 and N810), and ARMv5t. [16:59] poutsi: ARMv5t includes Xscale chips and "ARM9" series CPUs. (e.g. the Atmel SAM9G45, based on [16:59] poutsi: an ARM926. 'ARMv' indicates the instruction-set version, [16:59] poutsi: 'ARM' indicates a particular _μarch_ compliant with a specific ISA version. [19:26] yeah, I know [19:27] I guess I misinterpreted some of this ubuntu on arm hype as meaning that they'd have had packages in the repos built for the n810, and that someone somewhere had made it easy to install too :) [19:27] meaning as easy as it was with mer [19:28] and I've seen ubuntu running on some arm hardware last week, and the impression that I got was that the guy just downloaded and image and presto [19:29] anyway, there seems to have been a jaunty rootstrap for n810 floating around but the site that hosted it went away [19:29] 'cause that would've been enough for me, I'd have just put it on the internal mmc of the n810 [19:43] poutsi: There are armel packages here: http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/karmic/main/installer-armel/alpha-2/images/ [19:43] poutsi: well images at least [19:47] There are some ARMv5t packages here http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ [19:47] But the current (daily) installer images are for Freescale's i.MX51 series, [19:47] so ARMv7A build targets appear to be slated too. [19:47] (I'd do just about anything to get my hands on a development Freescale i.MX515 "Babbage Board".)