| doctormo | How are people today? good? | 00:03 |
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| pleia2 | good good, you? | 00:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | not bad | 00:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am working on an outline for a course for new users | 00:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | re: installing Ubuntu | 00:09 |
| bodhi_zazen | a few links and general info re wubi, desktop, alternate CD | 00:10 |
| bodhi_zazen | root, installing stuff | 00:10 |
| bodhi_zazen | linky to wiki to fill in details | 00:10 |
| doctormo | pleia2: thanks for the great comment | 00:36 |
| doctormo | bodhi_zazen: Did you see any of the notes I posted to BiosElement yesterday? | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: sure thing, I'm afraid that argument is raised often within debian | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | I still contribute to debian, but ugh, I don't interact with the community much for fear of being yelled at | 00:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | no doctormo | 00:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | where ? | 00:37 |
| doctormo | pleia2: The problem with some computer people is that they think that everyone should conform to the same inhuman human interactions. Rudeness isn't considered a problem because it excuses one's own rudeness. | 00:42 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: yeah, I think that's certainly part of the problem | 00:42 |
| doctormo | bodhi_zazen: I may point you to the logs, or to BiosElement, depending on where he's at with processing all those notes. Basically I laid out how I'm making courses, step by step and development | 00:42 |
| doctormo | bodhi_zazen: We were talking about splitting the process, so development is done via bzr and publication is done by moodle via an opinioned or elected chief editor. | 00:43 |
| bodhi_zazen | nice | 00:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | you should consider putting that info on a wiki page | 00:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | =) | 00:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | easier to contribute to, easier to edit, and easier to read then irc logs | 00:44 |
| doctormo | bodhi_zazen: It's going to be a course, just like all the others :-D | 00:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am sure the process will be a FAQ | 00:44 |
| doctormo | That was why I noted it all down to BiosElement | 00:44 |
| bodhi_zazen | who or what is BiosElement ? | 00:45 |
| doctormo | A user in this irc channel | 00:45 |
| * doctormo points to users list | 00:45 | |
| doctormo | He's a new person, enthusastic to be writing some core "how to teach" classes. | 00:45 |
| doctormo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/TeachingTopics <- this is the topics page. I figured that we can make development and contributation easier by treating it like a class. | 00:46 |
| bodhi_zazen | I will have to look at that later => dinner time | 00:48 |
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| sagaci | Straight into the Ubuntu Desktop topics, one of the first ideas in the contents is "Introduction to the Command Line"... is this necessary in the Desktop/Beginner course, and even if it is, would it be better introducing it later (toward the end of the table of contents)? | 04:54 |
| bodhi_zazen | I think a basic introduction is necessary yes | 05:03 |
| bodhi_zazen | this might be as simple as how to open a terminal and an explanation of what bash is | 05:04 |
| bodhi_zazen | Perhaps how to get help / man pages | 05:04 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am not sure avoiding the command line is such a good idea | 05:05 |
| bodhi_zazen | but I do not think we need to go into detailed shell scripting =) | 05:05 |
| sagaci | yeah, maybe we have different ideas of what desktop means but I think we should be avoiding the cli in this course, or at least until the basis of the GUI apps have been demonstrated. | 05:08 |
| bodhi_zazen | Opening a terminal is a gui and is a faq on the forums | 05:37 |
| bodhi_zazen | I do not think the cli is to be avoided at all costs and in my experience it is best to show / teach both a gui and cli solution to an issue or problem | 05:38 |
| bodhi_zazen | that way the cli is not hidden or make separate | 05:38 |
| bodhi_zazen | The way you suggest, avoiding the cli at all costs, and then trying to teach the cli in some kind o mega session has not worked so well for me | 05:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | You kind of need something to do with the cli | 05:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | so it is better to include a little information on the cli in every session | 05:41 |
| bodhi_zazen | IMO | 05:42 |
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| qq88888 | 大家好 | 05:50 |
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| sagaci | well i guess people who think cli will slow them down / unnecessary can just skip it temporarily | 06:12 |
| doctormo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-learning-materials | 07:57 |
| pleia2 | doctormo: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-45207824:///~doctormo/ubuntu-learning-materials/trunk/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport | 12:48 |
| pleia2 | when I try to commit, now it is possible I'm doing something wrong since I am a bit of a bzr newbie :) | 12:49 |
| pleia2 | anyway, I'm off for the weekend | 12:50 |
| * pleia2 roadtrip | 12:50 | |
| doctormo | pleia2: lol, just giving that a quick go before the weekend :-) | 16:40 |
| albasheers | hello everyone | 16:47 |
| doctormo | hey albasheers | 17:27 |
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