[00:00] <Terminus_Est> Few weeks ago I installed ubuntu 8.10 in this PC, ok... I installed some Open-GL games (Assault Cube, Glest and Warzone2100) and my driver NVDIA GeForce FX5500 was installed. Then I decided to update my ubuntu to 9.04 and so I had to re-install my NVIDIA driver once again... But now the games starts a little slower, only after 1 minute or 2 they run normally, that wasn't happening before the update and it bothers me a little... Please, d
[00:00] <Terminus_Est> ah and it's the desktop edition of course.. heh
[00:00] <Chessguy>  I have samba share working for my ntfs partition of my desktop and laptop so I can access My Documents, etc. I was wondering if there was a way to set it up so these folders automatically sync with each other.......grsync give an error
[00:00] <quietshaman> Bezerker - how do I restart notifications??
[00:01] <Techie-Micheal> I'm trying to chroot a user and it works, but even though I've copied /bin/bash to $HOME/bin/, it says it can't find /bin/bash when I try to ssh in.
[00:01] <nacho__> lucky: i dont know anything else that can be, i was working on windows vista and it was perfect but i dont like windws vista, so i got kubuntu and its nice and everything but everytime i get a fullscreen it shuts down
[00:01] <Ogre> Guys, I'm really new to Ubuntu, and I'm trying to get the Desktop Cube in compiz to work, and I set the Unfold hot key to <Control>z but when I press that nothing happens. but if I change the workstations from 2x2 to 4x1 it works, but it's not a cube, it shows them all next to each other
[00:01] <Berzerker> quietshaman, right click an empty area and click add to panel, look for notification area and drag it to the bar
[00:01] <seanthegeek> is there a way to install the ptopritary nvidia drivers form apt-get via the command line?
[00:01] <kronix> Just now in ##windows: "[The_Toxic_Mite] WINDOWS USERS ARE FAGGOTS - TO PROVE YOU ARE NOT A FAGGOT, COME TO #ubuntu !!!"
[00:02] <Vanion> How come I can't run an .exe file beacause of "not enough disk space" when the disk it is on have plenty of space?
[00:02] <docgnome> kronix: i hate people
[00:02] <kronix> Will you guys please control your trolls?
[00:02] <Ogre> Guys, I can't even go to my bottom workspaces, why?
[00:02] <lucky> Wow, that's lame.
[00:02] <quietshaman> Bezerker - Problem solved - here's a beer to brighten your night...many thanks...excuse the duhhh!
[00:02] <ascheel> Ogre: set the hotkey, Press it and HOLD the buttons, then drag with the mouse.
[00:02] <IdleOne> kronix, your trolling now
[00:02] <Berzerker> kronix, el oh el.
[00:02] <kronix> lucky, why have you been hiding?
[00:03] <Ogre> ascheel, I can't even click one of my bottom two workspaces and make it open
[00:03] <lucky> kronix: hiding?
[00:03] <kronix> From us.
[00:03] <Ogre> also, ascheel that doesn't work
[00:03] <ascheel> Ogre: sorry I can't help much past that.  :(
[00:03] <rww> kronix: They're not "our" trolls =/
[00:03] <AbsoluteZero> I'm having an interesting issue with what I presume is Nautilus. I've found quite a lot of temporary fixes for my problem on the tubes, but I was hoping that someone here would be able to help me. Quit simply put: Nautilus doesn't start with Ubuntu, leaving my desktop blank without the ability to right click. Typing nautilus into the console or run application dialog brings it back...but it randomly decides it would like to disappear
[00:03] <jonah1980> hey guys, my screen resolution is wrong after installation, how can i set it in xorg or other place? i need 1366 x 768
[00:03] <lucky> nacho__: if I had to guess, it's probably an issue with power management in the kernel, and that won't be changed by changing your desktop environment.
[00:03] <ascheel> Ogre, can't click on the individual workspaces with the mouse?
[00:04] <lucky> nacho___: if I had to guess, it's probably an issue with power management in the kernel, and that won't be changed by changing your desktop environment.
[00:04] <Ogre> ascheel, when I click one of my bottom two (2x2) it doesn't do anything, but it works if I click either of the top ones
[00:04] <ascheel> Ogre: then I'm sorry.  :(  I won't be much help to you
[00:05] <lucky> AbsoluteZero: well, if it helps you know you're not losing your mind, that happens to me randomly, as well.
[00:05] <AbsoluteZero> Thank you, lucky...makes me feel a smidge better.
[00:05] <AbsoluteZero> None of the fixes I've found are permanent.
[00:05] <lucky> I never really bothered to look into it, since alt-f2 -> nautilus is quick enough.
[00:05] <lucky> perhaps it's crashing on startup? (or randomly)
[00:06] <AbsoluteZero> Yes it is, I think.
[00:06] <Terminus_Est> seanthegeek: I don't know about it but you can go to the NVIDIA site and look for your driver for linux, download it, you need to stop the GDM to install the driver, after you done with it you can start the GDM again...
[00:06] <lucky> I haven't experienced it since i upgraded to 9.04
[00:06] <AbsoluteZero> When I DO start it again using the terminal, I get a few errors.
[00:06] <nacho___> lucky: maybe its that, cause when it shuts down, shows the splash screen of kubuntu and all the steps like i select the shutdown button, and when its a hardware problem just shutsdown
[00:06] <AbsoluteZero> Like how it can't find "ubuntulooks" and then a few other errors about window sizing.
[00:06] <Cerrdor> flash still will not work
[00:07] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, define still
[00:07] <nacho___> lucky: then the only way that i can fix that (in case thats the problem) is recompilating????
[00:07] <Cerrdor> after the upgrade to jaunty
[00:07] <Cerrdor> I tried purging flashplugins and flashplugin-installer and still nothing
[00:08] <lucky> nacho___: recompiling* and unless you know what settings to change in the kernel configuration, that wouldn't likely fix it.
[00:08] <lucky> nacho___: I can't  help you further, perhaps you can google for your make of laptop (perhaps it's chipset if you know what it is) and ubuntu / linux.
[00:08] <nacho___> ok, then my next better option is reinstalling?
[00:08] <nacho___> ok
[00:08] <ramma> Anyone have any idea why there's would be one red pixel at the top of my screen, but when I pull a window off of the screen over it, or to the right hand side off the screen, the pixel goes back to whatever colour it should be?
[00:09] <nacho___> ty lucky
[00:09] <fluurp> i have a Nvidia8600 with the 180.44 driver, are there any other compatible drivers? and where to find\name? synaptic?
[00:10] <ramma> Correction, the pixel just shows on green/dark gray colours, and when I pull a window off the right side it simply dims.
[00:11] <Pharsalus> hello all
[00:11] <Chessguy> I have samba share working for my ntfs partition of my desktop and laptop so I can access My Documents, etc. I was wondering if there was a way to set it up so these folders automatically sync with each other.......grsync give an error
[00:12] <Cerrdor> can anyone assist with this flash issue?
[00:12] <Cerrdor> getting flash to work with jaunty
[00:13] <inertial> what's the best way to do raid1 on linux? hardware or software controlled?
[00:13] <danbhfive> Cerrdor: are you using 32bit or 64bit?
[00:13] <Cerrdor> 32
[00:14] <AbsoluteZero> Here are the errors I get when I try to start nautilus through the terminal:
[00:14] <AbsoluteZero> (nautilus:4037): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks",
[00:14] <AbsoluteZero> ** (nautilus:4037): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
[00:14] <AbsoluteZero> It's weird...because I don't have a monitor, it's a netbook...
[00:14] <FloodBot1> AbsoluteZero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <AbsoluteZero> Sorry...didn't know about paste.
[00:15] <sluurp> sry, can anyone answer my driver question, pls? :)
[00:15] <Cerrdor> can anyone assist with this flash issue?
[00:15] <Cerrdor> getting flash to work with jaunty
[00:16] <ToStItOs_> has anyone seen cast?
[00:16] <AbsoluteZero> If you go to adobe's website they have a special flash package just for ubuntu. Should work just fine.
[00:16] <AbsoluteZero> That's what I did.
[00:17] <aboyz> I got a command like this. "ftpasswd --passwd --name=test --uid=1001 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/test --shell=/bin/false" Is there some way to put it in a file called GO. so everytime I run GO john , it'll run this command "ftpasswd --passwd --name=john --uid=1002 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/john --shell=/bin/false" Also I need it also to create a directory "mkdir /mnt/raid5/vendors/john" Also the UID need to be change to UID=1002. Anyone know of a way to do this
[00:17] <Guest57391> can someone help me recover my deleted data?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7787919#post7787919
[00:17] <AbsoluteZero> Stupid nautilus.
[00:17] <Berzerker> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:18] <legend2440> sluurp: the only way to get the newest driver is to download an install manually. i did it and saw no benefit so went back to tthe ubuntu supplied driver     http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_185.18.31.html
[00:18] <ToStItOs_> jtaji
[00:18] <Cerrdor> doesnt work
[00:19] <kiheikev> trying to install w32codecs and mplayer plugin getting unresovleable depends
[00:19] <Xlrr8> I've searched and searched, but i cant seem to find any related docs.  Is there a compatibility issue between the intel 945g chipset and the proprietary ati driver ?
[00:19] <legend2440> sluurp: the downside is if there is a kernel upgrade you will have to reinstall the nvidia driver again
[00:20] <ramma> Any got a clue about my question? One red pixel at the top of my screen, disappears if I put a window off the top of the screen or off the right side of the screen. Only seems to show on green/dark gray.
[00:20] <tim__b> anyone know how to prevent the gnome-panel to move to the left monitor on dual view mode (intel gfx) when using "xrandr --output VGA --auto --left-of LVDS --noprimary --output LVDS --primary --preferred --nograb". I want to have VGA/external monitor left to my notebook display, but gnome panels shoulg stay on LVDS/notebook display
[00:20] <Berzerker> ramma, so, it disappears when you put a window over it?
[00:20] <ToStItOs_> anyone seen jtaji or cast
[00:21] <dec23> why are there 3 floodbots?
[00:21] <ramma> Berzerker: When I put the window over it, and off the screen. If I just place the top bar of a window of it (which happens to be green) it just gets a little darker.\
[00:21] <Terminus_Est> Few weeks ago I installed ubuntu 8.10 in this PC, ok... I installed some Open-GL games (Assault Cube, Glest and Warzone2100) and my driver NVDIA GeForce FX5500 was installed. Then I decided to update my ubuntu to 9.04 and so I had to re-install my NVIDIA driver once again... But now the games starts a little slower, only after 1 minute or 2 they run normally, that wasn't happening before the update and it bothers me a little... Please, d
[00:21] <sluurp> legend2440 | thanks, i*ll check it out
[00:21] <Berzerker> ramma, can you take a screenshot?
[00:22] <dec23> 2) why are the floodbots flooding the chatroom?
[00:22] <ramma> Berzerker: I'll try, it'll take me a minute.
[00:22] <Berzerker> ramma, ok
[00:22] <IdleOne> dec23, you can /ignore the bots if you like
[00:22] <nachoww> hell, is ubuntu still alive?
[00:22] <dec23> oh thanks
[00:23] <nachoww> s/hell/hello
[00:23] <l1ghts0ut> Hi, can anyone give me a hand troubleshooting the wireless N on a Dell Mini 10v?
[00:23] <yelloowfire> YEAH,IT IS ALIVE
[00:23] <nachoww> tfine, i will come back at year 2012
[00:23] <danbhfive> l1ghts0ut: whats the problem?
[00:23] <l1ghts0ut> wireless is very slow
[00:23] <l1ghts0ut> i have other wireless n at home and they are fine
[00:23] <sluurp> legend2440   in think my nvidia card is the reason for the freeze
[00:24] <danbhfive> l1ghts0ut: is it atheros?
[00:24] <sluurp> legend2440   or the drivers
[00:24] <l1ghts0ut> Broadcomm
[00:24] <danbhfive> don't know about them, sor
[00:24] <ramma> Berzerker: The red pixel isn't in the screen shot, so I guess it's actually the display itself. :/
[00:24] <legend2440> sluurp: when does it freeze?
[00:25] <Berzerker> ramma, sounds like it.
[00:25] <l1ghts0ut> danbhfive: Broadcom BCM4322 to be specific
[00:25] <duiu> I can ssh into my Ubuntu system as the account I created when I first made the system, but I can't with any other accounts. Suggestions?
[00:26] <sluurp> legend2440   randomly, when i surf on youtube and click on a link and sometimes straight @ the login screen
[00:26] <TheNano> duiu: don't the others need to be member of the group ssh (i'm not sure)
[00:27] <phebus> For some time I have problems with ubuntu 9.04. My pc freezes completely and I can do nothing to resolve the error. I have to reboot. At the same time, my hard drive makes a nasty noise. From time to time, the PC freezes and thaws just a few minutes. I have a SATA hard drive. I thought the problem was hard drive, but I have the same problem with other hard drives that work fine on another server. This is my dmesg after the
[00:27] <phebus> problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/253399/   and this is my kernel.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/253400/  . Do you think that the problem could come from the motherboard? (sata bus)?  Thanks ;)
[00:27] <sluurp> legend2440   and im a noob in reading log files
[00:27] <l1ghts0ut> anyone else able give me a hand troubleshooting the wireless N on a Dell Mini 10v?
[00:27] <Cerrdor> this flash issue is annoying
[00:27] <Terminus_Est> Few weeks ago I installed ubuntu 8.10 in this PC, ok... I installed some Open-GL games (Assault Cube, Glest and Warzone2100) and my driver NVDIA GeForce FX5500 was installed. Then I decided to update my ubuntu to 9.04 and so I had to re-install my NVIDIA driver once again... But now the games starts a little slower, only after 1 minute or 2 they run normally, that wasn't happening before the update and it bothers me a little... Please, d
[00:27] <ramma> Berzerker: Doh, took the screenshot wrong.
[00:28] <ganymede> hello, i'm looking for a GUI diff but something quite different than the usual...instead of comparing files, i'd like two text-boxes where i can copy-paste text and have it compare immediately either in word-by-word mode or line-by-line mode. this is because i compare not entire files but portions of files. it would be cumbersome to copy paste portions of documents into new documents just to diff them
[00:28] <juanbond> Hey guys, I've got this NTFS USB drive hooked up to my machine right now (8.10), I don't see any files on there, but when I look at the stats for the drive, it says there's 160 some gb of data used... anyone know of a way I can get that data somehow?
[00:29] <ramma> Berzerker: http://bacon.spicious.com/screeny1.jpg Not in the shot, but above the G on my screen. :(
[00:29] <Berzerker> ramma, what? where
[00:30] <l1ghts0ut> juanbond: running sudo ntfs-config should get ntfs set up for you
[00:30] <iddo> is it good idea to apt-get remove cups if i dont use printer? it removes ubuntu-desktop meta package, but i always get updates for cups stuff that i dont need when i apt-get upgrade
[00:30] <legend2440> sluurp: not sure if newer drivers would help or not. i have geforce 6200 and haven't had any problems. Anyway here are instruction on how to properly install the new nvidia drivers if you decide to try them     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[00:30] <ToStItOs_> !wine
[00:30] <juanbond> l1ghts0ut: I can get other drives to work, but this one seems messed up somehow.
[00:30] <marcelo__> boa noite, sou novo em linux. preciso de ajuda. não consigo acessar minha conta do BB,
[00:30] <Berzerker> iddo, why not update? what if you need to print something and your computer is the only one around.
[00:30] <duiu> TheNano: I'm checking
[00:31] <bazhang> !br | marcelo__
[00:31] <rek> help
[00:31] <marcelo__> alguem pode me ajudar
[00:31] <Berzerker> !pr | marcelo_
[00:31] <l1ghts0ut> juanbond: sorry for your luck
[00:31] <bazhang> rek, with what
[00:31] <Berzerker> !pt | marcelo_
[00:31] <ramma> Berzerker: The red dot isn't in the picture. Thanks for the help though. I didn't even think of taking a screenshot to see if it was the display or graphics problems.
[00:31] <rek> bzhang r u an expert?
[00:31] <l1ghts0ut> juanbond: maybe try a different usb port?
[00:31] <phebus> so ..... no idea ? my log files are here http://paste.ubuntu.com/253399/  and here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/253400/
[00:31] <wesley> im afraid 9.04 is installed, i can still make that noise, but no sounds are playing, audigy 2 zs on a dell dimesnion 8300
[00:31] <rek> with mytthtv for ubuntu,don't send me on a mythtv chan
[00:31] <iddo> Berzerker: but i dont have a printer
[00:32] <Berzerker> iddo, well if you go somewhere and you need to print something out, you never know
[00:32] <rek> also..help for my yp-p3 with hardy
[00:32] <l1ghts0ut> anyone able give me a hand troubleshooting the wireless N on a Dell Mini 10v?
[00:33] <rek> does not recognise my ssamsung yp-p3
[00:33] <bazhang> rek, what is yp-p3
[00:33] <rek> samsung mp3
[00:33] <wesley> can someone help me i have ubuntu 9.04 with an audiogy 2 zs, and it wont play sounds, everything is set to alsa, so in the test area i can make it play a tone
[00:33] <sluurp> legend2440   kk, ty it dont have to be the newes drivers just the most stable ones.. i never have any problems with linux\ubuntu..just this freeze
[00:33] <rek> i 'm runnin hardy
[00:33] <Ogre> gah, how do you stop recording with recordmydesktop
[00:33] <Cerrdor> how do you get flash working with jaunty
[00:34] <rek> also some times ago my u700 mobile phone samsung.... was recognized but it's no longer rocognized and mounted on the desktop
[00:34] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:34] <mac9416> iddo, I know it's OK to uninstall ubuntu-desktop (though I've heard it could possibly mess with a dist-upgrade). I don't know how good an idea it is to remove cups, but I wouldn't be too worried about it.
[00:34] <docgnome> so... there is a big black bar on the side of my secondary monitor
[00:34] <docgnome> like... two inches of dead space
[00:34] <Ogre> gah, how do you stop recording with recordmydesktop
[00:35] <ribot> hi
[00:35] <rek> r u searching
[00:35] <Berzerker> iddo, it doesn't really matter. you won't be gaining any benefit (like space)
[00:35] <rek> ooh ogre hello
[00:35] <Ogre> hello
[00:35] <bazhang> rek, who are you addressing
[00:35] <rek> u r german
[00:35] <ribot> just installed ubuntu on system with win xp, and win xp didnt show up in boot loader, i want to have dual boot possibility
[00:35] <rek> ubuntu developer
[00:35] <mac9416> Ogre, gnome-system-monitor, then kill the process. You'll lose the video, but it'll stop
[00:35] <iddo> Berzerker: why am i not gaining hd space? as well as stopping all the downloads when i apt-get upgrade
[00:36] <rek> him...however my mp3 is not recognized bazhang
[00:36] <IdleOne> ribot, did you select to use the entire drive when you installed ubuntu?
[00:36] <ribot> IdleOne: no
[00:36] <Ogre> mac9416, how else can i stop it? >.<
[00:36] <Ogre> Without losing the video
[00:36] <Berzerker> iddo, you are gaining hard drive space. it's just not worth the space you gain by not being able to print.
[00:36] <iddo> mac9416: im not worry about ubuntu-desktop too much, but not sure if cups stuff break some gui apps or something
[00:37] <rek> ogre i hve ubuntu hasty for arm
[00:37] <mac9416> Ogre, without losing the video, I have no idea. Can't you stop it from the panel?
[00:37] <IdleOne> ribot, when grub screen gives you the option to chose os windows will normally be the bottom of the list
[00:37] <ribot> IdleOne: the windows partition is there, but windows is not an option in the list
[00:37] <Chessguy> I have samba share working for my ntfs partition of my desktop and laptop so I can access My Documents, etc. I was wondering if there was a way to set it up so these folders automatically sync with each other.......grsync give an error
[00:38] <mac9416> iddo, yeah, I really don't know. If it was me, I would just go for it and hope for the best. You can always reinstall it as long as Ubuntu boots.
[00:38] <bazhang> Ogre, ctrl c
[00:38] <bazhang> Ogre, the manual for recordmydesktop is fairly informative
[00:38] <IdleOne> ribot, not sure then. I have never seen that happen before but someone here might know
[00:38] <rek> hi i have ubuntu hasty...i want to say...it's pretty cool...but ogre or ogra....we need more applications for arms
[00:38] <Berzerker> iddo, you can do whatever you want. I don't recommend it as I see it worth having if you EVER need to print anything from that computer. you never know. but you can do what you want.
[00:39] <rek> does not recognise my ssamsung yp-p3 why?
[00:39] <ribot> i installed ubuntu 8.10 from november last year
[00:39] <macius> hey is anyone not busy and able to help me in setting up alpine? :\ im not to familiar mail servers at all i have to say my mac came pre configured with that and yeah i've had alot of cofusion setting everything up
[00:39] <macius> lol
[00:40] <Cerrdor> I just upgraded to Jaunty and firefox wont play flash now
[00:40] <Cerrdor> anyone know how to fix it?
[00:40] <macius> download firefox 3.5
[00:40] <macius> :)
[00:40] <macius> and install
[00:40] <Cerrdor> I did
[00:40] <macius> it worked for me
[00:40] <macius> o hmm
[00:40] <Cerrdor> not me
[00:40] <macius> you have adobe flash 10 correct?
[00:40] <Cerrdor> It is being a royal pain
[00:40] <Cerrdor> yupp
[00:41] <rek> hei
[00:41] <ruben23> hi
[00:41] <bazhang> !enter
[00:41] <noobstian> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop presario cq40-324LA and i am getting no sound at all, can someon help me out
[00:41] <Cerrdor> flashplugin is installed nonfree is installed installer is installed
[00:41] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, what are you trying to do that doesn't work?
[00:41] <Cerrdor> youtube
[00:42] <macius> how is it not working? video not playing at all?
[00:42] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, does it tell you it's not installed? or does it just not play?
[00:42] <Cerrdor> basicly any flash video sites wont work
[00:42] <Cerrdor> Berzerker, It says not installed
[00:42] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, have you restarted all instances of firefox?
[00:42] <Cerrdor> Berzerker, yes
[00:42] <bucky> Cerrdor: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree
[00:42] <Adam_eM> I need some help with wine, It doesn't run an application because of space in path (Program files)
[00:43] <bucky> Cerrdor: did you install flash from a tar ball or did you install it with the package manager?
[00:43] <Adam_eM> i tried the wineconsole with a bat file but it does the same
[00:43] <IdleOne> ribot, curious, how many partitions did you have before installing ubuntu?
[00:44] <Cerrdor> bucky, through apt
[00:44] <bucky> Cerrdor: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree
[00:44] <bucky> what does that say?
[00:44] <bucky> ii ?
[00:44] <Cerrdor> pn  flashplugin-no <none>         (no description available)
[00:44] <ramma> Adam_eM: A space in the path to the exe? Like "blah/blah de blah.exe" ?
[00:44] <bucky> Cerrdor: it's not installed
[00:45] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, make sure firefox is closed when you run the line.
[00:45] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, 32-bit or 64-bit?
[00:45] <Cerrdor> 32
[00:45] <Terminus_Est> Open-GL games starts slower for 1 or 2 minutes everytime I open one of them, then it gets to work normally, this started to happen after an update from 8.10 to 9.04... How to solve this? :)
[00:45] <Adam_eM> ramma: it's a bit more complex. Let me explain
[00:45] <Cerrdor> and this makes the fourth time I have purged it and reinstalled
[00:45] <Cerrdor> thats why it shows not installed
[00:46] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, when you run purge does it actually purge it?
[00:46] <ribot> IdleOne: i had 4, now it's as such: 40gb ntfs, 60 gb fat32, 4gb ext3, 1.6gb swawp
[00:46] <rek> Could not open settings file /home/riccardo/.mythtv/mysql.txt for writing
[00:46] <rek> help
[00:46] <Berzerker> rek, sudo.
[00:46] <bucky> Cerrdor: it's not installed how do you expect it to work if it's not installed?
[00:46] <Cerrdor> Berzerker, dont know it says so but how can I be sure?
[00:46] <Berzerker> rek, shouldn't have to sudo though...
[00:46] <berk> what computer introduction book should I read??
[00:46] <rek> it's mythtv berzerker
[00:46] <bucky> Cerrdor: sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-nonfree
[00:46] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, type sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree and see if it actually removes it
[00:47] <Berzerker> if it says it's not installed, then it's not installed, then type the line bucky wrote.
[00:47] <Cerrdor> ii  flashplugin-no 10.0.32.18ubun Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transit
[00:47] <Berzerker> ok
[00:47] <Berzerker> try again
[00:47] <Berzerker> youtube
[00:47] <rek> No error type from QSqlError?  Strange...
[00:47] <rek> 2009-08-15 01:47:06.322 DB Error (SaveSettingOnHost query failure: ):
[00:47] <rek> help
[00:47] <Adam_eM> ramma:  my original windows link looks as follows: C:\orawin95\bin\ifrun60.exe "C:\progra~1\my\appi\go.fmx" window_state=maximi$
[00:48] <rek>  Unable to connect to database!
[00:48] <rek> 2009-08-15 01:47:05.643 Driver error was [1/1045]:
[00:48] <rek>  help
[00:48] <rek> Berzerker: thx
[00:50] <Cerrdor> Berzerker, still says not installed
[00:52] <rek> hei
[00:52] <Adam_eM> ramma: so I think I need to open it through batch file, the point is it doesn't get "progra~1" nor "Program[space]files" in patch
[00:53] <Berzerker> Cerrdor, go to a terminal, type killall firefox, then try agtain
[00:53] <Berzerker> again*
[00:53] <IdleOne> Berzerker, is he accepting the licence agreement?
[00:53] <Adam_eM> ramma: I meant path, not patch
[00:53] <Berzerker> IdleOne, didn't know there was one.
[00:53] <Berzerker> IdleOne, one never showed up for me.
[00:54] <IdleOne> hmm I might be wrong I did flash and a couple other things this morning and remember accepting a licence agreemnt
[00:54] <Berzerker> I know java makes you accept a license agreement
[00:54] <IdleOne> yeah that was it
[00:54] <IdleOne> nm Berzerker :0
[00:54] <IdleOne> :)
[00:54] <Berzerker> lol np
[00:54] <comph4x0r> hey i need major hepl
[00:55] <comph4x0r> *help
[00:55] <Berzerker> don't we all...
[00:55] <bazhang> comph4x0r, with what
[00:55] <IdleOne> comph4x0r, we need a major question
[00:55] <comph4x0r> how can i get adobe flash for opera
[00:55] <IdleOne> !flash
[00:55] <Berzerker> comph4x0r, http://www.opera.com/docs/linux/plugins/install/#flash
[00:56] <ramma> Adam_eM: I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do to be honest. But if it's what I think, then yeah, a batch file looks to be your best bet.
[00:57] <bucky> Cerrdor: is the test video asking for the H.232 video protocol?
[00:58] <bucky> Cerrdor: a little more info would help
[00:59] <tintini> hi. I'm looking for how to set up a dual monitor system
[00:59] <wesley> ok i got a strange one, my audio card now plays audio filkes, still no system audio or like youtube audio... please help?
[00:59] <noobstian> help, i am new to ubuntu, i just installed ubuntu on my compaq presario, laptop, which came with vista originally, i wiped that out,  now i've no sound whatsoever, i fiddled arouond with the sound options but i don't get any sound
[01:00] <outy> lol
[01:00] <outy> well i cant even get onto facebook
[01:00] <wesley> how can ubuntu play an mp3 but not play the opening audio file or any other audio sources..??
[01:00] <Lunixed> ytf my update manager pops up every 2 minutes.How do i stop it ?
[01:00] <tintini> wes: did you install flash?
[01:01] <wesley> me? yeah
[01:01] <solaar> if i have an intel imac which version of the ubuntu live cd should i get/
[01:01] <solaar> ?
[01:01] <jrib> solaar: 64bit or 32bit?
[01:01] <solaar> jrib: it's an intel mac so core 2 duo
[01:01] <wesley> i can watch the videos, just no audio, also the sounds dont play at the beginning, just an audible system speaker beep
[01:02] <Lunixed> my update manager pops up every 2 minutes.How do i stop it ?
[01:02] <jrib> solaar: you can use i386 or amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[01:02] <rww> solaar: 1) some intel macs are core duo, not core 2 duo. 2) if it's core 2 duo, you can use either.
[01:02] <solaar> rww: ok thanks
[01:02] <hbx> Lunixed what is it asking to install?
[01:02] <faryshta> Besides dwhelper what other tool can I use to download videos from YouTube?
[01:02] <solaar> right now i have the hard disk wiped
[01:02] <Lunixed> all updates
[01:02] <hbx> then install them
[01:02] <comph4x0r> none of those links worked
[01:02] <bazhang> faryshta, youtube-dl
[01:02] <solaar> rww: if i wiped the drive, do you know if i can install ubuntu like that?
[01:02] <jrib> faryshta: keepvid.com
[01:03] <IdleOne> Lunixed, install the updates?
[01:03] <Lunixed> My proxy will not allow to install all there hbx
[01:03] <Lunixed> And this will keep appearing
[01:03] <wesley> please help me?
[01:03] <faryshta> bazhang, jrib thanks let me check.
[01:03] <hbx> are you at work?
[01:03] <wesley> no
[01:03] <rww> solaar: I haven't done it in a while, so I don't remember the specifics of installation on Intel Macs. Try the link that jrib gave you.
[01:03] <solaar> will do
[01:04] <hbx> lunixed are you on intrepid or jaunty
[01:04] <comph4x0r> does anyone know how to get adobe flash player fir opera?
[01:04] <Lunixed> jaunty
[01:04]  * alexanderazimov wander's if god is just an expert programmer that has been AFK for the past billion+ years.
[01:04] <Lunixed> hbx jaunty
[01:04] <denali> Anyone here ever managed to get Empathy and Sipgate to play together?
[01:04] <hbx> and why are you on a proxy? are you at work or at home?
[01:04] <Lunixed> College hostel hbx
[01:05] <hbx> are you using there proxy?
[01:05] <wesley> please i have an audigy 2 plays mp3's but wont play other audio sources please help
[01:05] <Lunixed> Yes...No other option
[01:05] <hbx> well you could always use a vpn ...
[01:05] <hbx> hold on a second
[01:06] <emil111> I have trouble creating a live cd. I use imgburn for windows and when verifying it has a problem with the file casper\filesystem.squashfs       . Ubuntu live boot also finds "error in 1 file" without specifying anything, and I can run the live thing but cannot install it because of error in the cd.  I've made several cd's at low speed burn and get the same problem
[01:06] <emil111> I've downloaded the iso over and over also and no help. iso seems good from md5
[01:07] <fryfrog> emil111: i know it doesn't help much, but i always use imgburn and i've burned lots of ubuntu disks over the years :/
[01:07] <emil111> fryfrog: always something. thanks, I also use it a lot and never had problems before
[01:07] <emil111> never burned ubuntu disks before tho
[01:07] <hbx> Lunixed you may want to try this free vpn service called ---> itshidden.com
[01:08] <muxfr> hi
[01:08] <Lunixed> Can i just not have popping up ?
[01:08] <muxfr> can youtube.dl grab videos from other sites?
[01:08] <hbx> well updates keep you secure
[01:08] <denali> Anyone here use Empathy and Sofiasip?
[01:08] <hbx> so i'd install the updates
[01:08] <Lunixed> If network admins know that i use proxy tunneling then hey will ban my LAN port :(
[01:09] <Dacvak> Hi there. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 64-Bit on my new laptop. (I'll provide the link after this message.) It's giving me an error when installing at around 57%. I've tried burning the disc twice. I installed the 32-bit version from the official disc just fine. Any ideas?
[01:09] <Dacvak> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9370441&st=gateway+laptop&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218093004316
[01:09] <Xerran1> in aptitude, whats the difference between removing and purging?
[01:09] <hbx> vpn is a virtual private network connection ...try it out
[01:09] <fryfrog> emil111: have you tried the verify option in imgburn?
[01:09] <fryfrog> Xerran1: purge also gets rid of config files, afair
[01:09] <emil111> fryfrog: yes the verify option is the one telling me about the casper filesystem squash file being bad in some way
[01:09] <Lunixed> hmm Thanks :)
[01:10] <wesley> please i am beggin you guys, why wont my audio card play anything except mp3's, it wont even play the opening music for ubuntu, just a system beep
[01:10] <Xerran1> fryfrog: is purging safe?
[01:10] <emil111> the file also takes up some 98% of the size of the .iso so I guess it's an important file
[01:10] <fryfrog> emil111: ah, and i am sure you have actually tried booting it?
[01:10] <fryfrog> oh
[01:10] <jelly5fish> hey, I have a weird problem. I have a NAT with a netgear router. It has been working fine but suddenly today the router loses internet connection whenever I connect with my linux system, like as soon as I start up the dhclient on the linux box the lights on the router go off. the router connects fine with a windows system, thats what I cant figure out
[01:10] <fryfrog> emil111: another option would be to grab the -alternate install disk
[01:10] <faryshta> bazhang, how can I install youtube-dl?
[01:10] <emil111> fryfrog: yes I can boot the cd, I can run live from the cd with no trouble. it's only when I try install that it does not work
[01:10] <Chessguy> is there any way to sync samba share files?
[01:11] <phebus> For some time I have problems with ubuntu 9.04. My pc freezes completely and I can do nothing to resolve the error. I have to reboot. At the same time, my hard drive makes a nasty noise. From time to time, the PC freezes and thaws just a few minutes. I have a SATA hard drive. I thought the problem was hard drive, but I have the same problem with other hard drives that work fine on another server. This is my dmesg after the
[01:11] <phebus> problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/253399/   and this is my kernel.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/253400/  . Do you think that the problem could come from the motherboard? (sata bus)?  Thanks ;)
[01:11] <bazhang> faryshta, sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[01:11] <emil111> fryfrog: I didnt know about hte alternate install disk ill look for it
[01:11] <faryshta> bazhang, lol thanks I was aiming to download it from the page.
[01:11] <fryfrog> emil111: it is an ncurses installer, thats what i prefer to use, worth a try i guess
[01:11] <bazhang> faryshta, to use , it's youtube-dl -t url
[01:11] <th0r> Chessguy: rsync
[01:11] <Chessguy> it gives an error
[01:12] <emil111> also any idea how long "creating the virtual dikss" for WUBE is supposed to take? looks like it hugn up but I dunno
[01:12] <Dacvak> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 64-Bit on my new laptop. (I'll provide the link after this message.) It's giving me an error when installing at around 57%. I've tried burning the disc twice. I installed the 32-bit version from the official disc just fine. Any ideas?
[01:12] <Dacvak> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9370441&st=gateway+laptop&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218093004316
[01:12] <Chessguy> wait grsync or rsync?
[01:12] <faryshta> bazhang, so it is not a plugin like dwhelper. I mean that is fine just to know.
[01:12] <muxfr> bazhang, does it work with any url?
[01:12] <th0r> Chessguy: grsync is just a gui frontend for rsync
[01:12] <test34> how can I get rsync to tell me how many megabytes left to finish synchronizing ?
[01:12] <wesley> please guys, my firstborn for some help, please?
[01:12] <fryfrog> test34: i think it scans as it goes, so it doesn't know
[01:12] <Chessguy> oh! so might rsync be more configurable?
[01:12] <bazhang> faryshta, its a command line app the -t names it (rather than giving the url name)
[01:12] <bullgard> wesley: Please separate the 2 problems. They are not interrelated.
[01:13] <wesley> yes they are
[01:13] <fryfrog> test34: you can use --stats --progress and -v to get lots of data, but i think best you can see is "1111/12020" number of files to look at left
[01:13] <wesley> they are related
[01:13] <bazhang> muxfr, no, just youtube
[01:13] <wesley> i have no audio except for mp3's, basically the only program that can play audio right now is totem
[01:13] <bazhang> muxfr, you may wish to try wget or for flash more broadly miro
[01:14] <test34> fryfrog: that only seem to give me the progress for the current file
[01:14] <p1oooop> back
[01:14] <p1oooop> anyone have unanswered questions?
[01:14] <wesley> ]yes me
[01:14] <fryfrog> test34: which is exactly what i said
[01:15] <fryfrog> test34: rsync goes file by file, dir by dir, i'm pretty sure it has no idea about how much it has left until it is done
[01:15] <test34> fryfrog: I dont see  "1111/12020" number of files to look at left
[01:15] <fryfrog> test34: for a rough guess, you can compare a du on the src vs. du on dest
[01:15] <jelly5fish> p1oooop: are you a genius?
[01:15] <test34> fryfrog: du good idea, thank
[01:15] <test34> s
[01:15] <wesley> i wish i was
[01:15] <faryshta> bazhang, so many thanks.
[01:16] <fryfrog> test34: i think that # of files is on the right side
[01:16] <wesley> my kingdom for some help
[01:17] <wesley> please help me please! ill beg!
[01:17] <bazhang> !helpme | wesley
[01:19] <wesley> i am thumbing my copy of vista, i know i hate ms, but all my hardware works perfectly on it. i guess you pay for functionality
[01:19] <fluurp> yup
[01:19] <Chessguy> th0r: i get error when i try to use the location smb://jonathan-laptop/sq004980v02/Users/Jonathan
[01:19] <test34> fryfrog: looks like I only have a 33% left thanks
[01:20] <IdleOne> and so they can sell your personal info to all the "partners" they have
[01:20] <bucky> wesley: then you don't need any help
[01:20] <pixlbox> has anyone ever installed alfresco (CMS) in ubuntu?
[01:20] <Chessguy> to sync with my docs on this computer
[01:20] <bucky> wesley: run vista
[01:20] <wesley> i guess i am begging to stay away from the evil megacorp ms
[01:20] <muxfr> Can anybody help me get my intel HDA card working?
[01:21] <berni_> @muxfr whats the problem with the intel hda ?
[01:21] <th0r> Chessguy: mount the smb share to a local folder and then rsync there
[01:21] <emil111> When I try to install ubuntu WUBI  it gets stuck at "Creating the virtual disks"  any suggestion? forum thread?
[01:21] <jelly5fish> hey, I have a weird problem. I have a NAT with a netgear router. It has been working fine but suddenly today the router loses internet connection whenever I connect with my linux system, like as soon as I start up the dhclient on the linux box the lights on the router go off. the router connects fine with a windows system, thats what I cant figure out
[01:21] <muxfr> berni_, There's no *nix based system till now that was able to make it work. Only windows.
[01:22] <wesley> you are teling me to go use vista. this is the ubuntu chat room. ok, i got a question, how come pclinuxos2007 runs this audio card perfect
[01:22] <bucky> wesley: do you have a tech question?
[01:22] <berni_> muxfr did you check oiut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:22] <ufuk> nick kismet
[01:22] <kismet> hey there
[01:22] <pixlbox> has anyone ever installed alfresco (CMS) in ubuntu?
[01:22] <kismet> can anyone answer me a quick question
[01:22] <wesley> yes, my audio card plays mp3's through totem, but nothing else, why and how can i repair it?
[01:23] <zvacet> kismet:!ask
[01:23] <hbx> jelly5fish check your dmesg's and logs there your friend when things go wrong
[01:23] <chance12x> Hey, anybody from the UK here?
[01:23] <wesley> i forgot to mentikon, youtube video plays, but no audio, etc
[01:23] <pixlbox> anyone ever heard of alfresco ?
[01:23] <IdleOne> wesley, I suspect the problem is PIBKAC more then anything else and your attitude. towards the people who have tried to help you but you seem intent on IT SHOULD JUST WORK.
[01:23] <pixlbox> yep UK here
[01:23] <bazhang> !uk > chance12x
[01:23] <bucky> wesley: there are about four different places to control the volume control... etc in jaunty  have you looked in the Admin and App menus?
[01:23] <jelly5fish> hbx: kk
[01:24] <wesley> not certain exactrly what pibkac is, and it does just work on other linux distro's
[01:24] <bucky> wesley: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree
[01:24] <kismet> i use wine and ms office products.. now i found an add-on for one office product but if i try to install it, it says that it needs .net... can i install .net in wine
[01:24] <wesley> yes i have bucky, thanx
[01:24] <jrib> kismet: try #winehq and check appdb
[01:24] <hbx> wesley make sure asla is working correctly
[01:24] <jrib> !appdb | kismet
[01:24] <bucky> wesley: there are about four different places to control the volume control... etc in jaunty  have you looked in the Admin and App menus?
[01:24] <holiday39> winetricks for .net in wine
[01:24] <wesley> i am playing mp3's via alsa and totem
[01:24] <cellofellow> funny how tube monitors crackle when there's a significant change in content color (From light to dark)
[01:25] <kismet> okay thanks.. i am a real noob... how check appdb what is that ... jrib
[01:25] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org kismet
[01:25] <kismet> oh i see sory,, was blind
[01:26] <CaptainCrook> any know way to connect to all IM protocol via ssh??
[01:26] <wesley> this audio card also works on damn small linux
[01:26] <berni_> captaincrook what do you mean tunnel im traffic ?
[01:26] <qos> how do i disable (shutdown) a SATA harddrive while my system runs?
[01:27] <berni_> qos sounds like energie options in the system panel
[01:27] <CaptainCrook> berni_,  something like that... tunnel msn, yahoo, irc...
[01:27] <zvacet> wesley: is just you tube where you can not play sound
[01:27] <berni_> captaincrook for example using icq over tor ?
[01:28] <wesley> also hulu, and charter's videos
[01:28] <CaptainCrook> berni_,  excat...
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> I think the TOR homepage has faq/docs on doing things like IM over Tor.
[01:28] <qos> berni_, not that sure about that... what do you mean exactly?
[01:28] <cellofellow> shouldn't the python-nautilus package include a nautilus.py or nautilus.so file somewhere in the python path? Nautilus python extensions use `import nautilus` but on my system that fails.
[01:29] <berni_> qos there are some settings to control standy ,and when to turn off your screen
[01:29] <qos> berni_, but nothing about harddiscs?! ;)
[01:30] <berni_> qos what is the exact error you are getting ?
[01:30] <wesley> this is gonna sound very strange but when i put in the live cd for pclinuxos2007, i dont even have to tell it what version of audio card it is, it's instantaneous
[01:30] <CaptainCrook> berni_,  maybe using my own home server to encrypt would be even better...
[01:30] <thiebaude> wesley, same thing with my ubuntu live cd
[01:31] <wesley> and everything including youtube and hulu work, but pclinuxos 07 is really old, and im not a fan of 09
[01:31] <qos> there are 2 harddrives in my workstation, just storeage. they are running all the day and i need them every second day. so, the idea was it to shut them down and launch them when i need them
[01:31] <emil111> is NTFS or FAT32 best for WUBI?
[01:31] <BlackCow> so i have a box that i want to address by name instead of IP when SSHing, i know its possible but im having trouble google searching it with relevant results
[01:31] <emil111> !wubi
[01:31] <BlackCow> anyone know what its specifically called?
[01:31] <wesley> i had 8.04 on here, and that worked for a while, and then nothing, maybe a fresh install would help
[01:31] <zvacet> wesley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253427/
[01:32] <test34> emil111: probably fat32
[01:32] <pixlbox> yeah, has ubuntu got write support for NTFS now ?
[01:33] <berni_> captaincrook i think you may need https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TransparentProxy
[01:33] <Cosmic_Karma> hi does any one use ubuntu tweak?
[01:33] <jrib> pixlbox: for a while now, yeah
[01:33] <jrib> !anyone | Cosmic_Karma
[01:33] <hbx> yea ubuntu tweak is great
[01:33] <berni_> qos the command you are searcing for is hdparm
[01:33] <wesley> i have the acutal adobe flash player plugin installed, that isnt the problem flahs works perfect. except the audio, but ubuntu's audio files at startup also dont play so whatever progrma does that at the beginning also cannot play audio
[01:33] <Cosmic_Karma> or can u tell me where to find gufw? can find in synaptic
[01:33] <pixlbox> jrib: oh right cool, last time i checked must have been ages ago haha
[01:33] <zvacet> wesley : replace jaunty with hardy in repo I pastebin to you
[01:34] <bucky> BlackCow: short of setting up your own dns nameserver the easy way would be putting an entry for it in /etc/hosts
[01:34] <wesley> i would if that was the problem, but it's not
[01:34] <berni_> qos http://linux.die.net/man/8/hdparm parameter : example : hdparm -B 1 -S 12 /dev/sda
[01:34] <Cosmic_Karma> oh my bad just wanted to know what tweaks anyone would recomend from the ubuntu to tweak app
[01:34] <jrib> !info gufw | Cosmic_Karma
[01:34] <wesley> other programs which should also play audio do not, no program outside totem plays audio
[01:34] <jrib> Cosmic_Karma: it's in the universe repository so as long as you have that enabled, you should be able to install gufw in synaptic
[01:35] <bucky> Cosmic_Karma: gufw in in the universe repos.. open up your repos
[01:35] <Cosmic_Karma> didnt see it and i had to re partition over jacunty and go back to hardy again
[01:35] <jrib> !who | Cosmic_Karma
[01:35] <bucky> oh.. nm
[01:35] <Cosmic_Karma> *jaunty
[01:36] <qos> berni_, sure about the flags?
[01:36] <wesley> ok never mind, i like ubuntu, but either vista or pclinuxos 07 is going on, or dsl, LOL.
[01:36] <berni_> qos example is from intel http://www.lesswatts.org/tips/disks.php
[01:36] <Dacvak> Please help me. Every time I try to install Ubuntu 9.04 64-Bit on my new laptop, it gives me an error in installation. It says there is an error in copying the data or something. I've tried reburning it (on the slowest settings, on both CD and DVD) and it's not working. What can I do?
[01:36] <berni_> qos scroll down to Disk Power Management
[01:37] <wesley> if dsl can work but not ubuntu, im thinking there's some serious bugs. if an os 2 years oldewr than this can also work, hmmm..
[01:37] <emil111> Dacvak: have you tried wubi?
[01:37] <berni_> Dacvak select "check this cd for defects while booting"
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  i tend to use 'unetbootin' to make bootable (installable) flash drives with ubuntu on it. It itnstalls faster then from cd also..
[01:37] <bazhang> wesley, have you install pavucontrol and padevchooser
[01:37] <bucky> wesley: my flashplayer works for this H.264 Flash Sample at http://www.sidepodcast.com/video/h264-flash-sample/
[01:37] <oguncak> hi friends.. i upgraded to karmic, but i cannot get over with bugs!! how can i go back to 9.04?
[01:37] <Dacvak> What's wubi?
[01:37] <bazhang> oguncak, reinstall
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> oguncak:  reformat/reinstall.
[01:37] <Dacvak> berni_, yes, I did that once and it came up with 1 error.
[01:37] <Cosmic_Karma> hardy is only version  that works for me
[01:37] <emil111> !wubi Dacvak
[01:38] <oguncak> god!!!
[01:38] <qos> berni_, i don't want to do this automatically. i want to shut them down when i want them to do :)
[01:38] <Cosmic_Karma> i love hardy
[01:38] <bucky> !info Wubi | Dacvak
[01:38] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis, how do I use a thumb drive to do that?
[01:38] <berni_> qos automatic shutdown should be no problem because the systems starts them up if needed
[01:38] <bazhang> !wubi
[01:38] <bucky> !info wubi | Dacvak
[01:38] <berni_> qos otherwise write a script to disable | active powersave
[01:38] <spO> kernel 2.6.30.4  (the current stable one )   is not karmic nor jaunty,  what is it?
[01:39] <berni_> dacvak then you cd is not ok , maybe very old burner ?
[01:39] <Dacvak> No, it's a new burner. I've also tried two other burners.
[01:39] <oguncak> i sent lots of bug reports.. anyways, i guess karmic koala will be a great version, but i am not ready for bugs rihgt now :D
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  use the 'unetbootin' tool  and a ubuntu.iso file.. and tell unetbootin tool to create a bootable flash drive from the iso.
[01:39] <Dacvak> Dr_Willis, I'll try that and let you guys know of my success or failure.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  You may want to let unetbootin download the iso. I think it verifys the download.
[01:40] <qos> berni_, i thought i can do something like this "hdparm --disable-drive /dev/sdb" :) and when i need them "hdparm --enable-drive /dev/sdb"
[01:41] <berni_> qos don't think that this is possible, just active the powersave after 2 sec then the hdd should spin down
[01:41] <berni_> qos -B 255 should disable the power saving and bring the device back online
[01:42] <gdoteof> i made my volume control disappear from my dock somehow trying to fix my sound now i can't get it back, any ideas?  gnome 9.04
[01:42] <berni_> gdoteof right click add to panel > sound
[01:42] <bazhang> gdoteof, right click add to panel?
[01:42]  * gdoteof feels sheepish
[01:42] <gdoteof> thanks
[01:43] <qos> berni_, hmm. i want to make sure that these drives get some peace. i really don't need them often. i would like most if i can switch them on and off while my computer runs...
[01:43] <fluurp> any ideas ? ----> http://pastebin.com/m65e314c
[01:44] <berni_> qos if you enable powe save and nobody tries to access data they won't spin up
[01:44] <bazhang> fluurp, a brief synopsis would be nice
[01:44] <qos> berni_, but they get enabled when my computer starts... and then they spin down after 2 mins ...
[01:45] <norman_> hola a todos
[01:45] <bazhang> !es | norman_
[01:45] <Ogre> ping #ubuntu
[01:45] <berni_> qos you want to stop them spinning up when you start you computer ?
[01:45] <Ogre> oops
[01:45] <Cosmic_Karma> !gufw
[01:45] <aula> facape
[01:45] <fluurp> bazhang, i start znes and its running, but i cant go fullscreen
[01:46] <fluurp> *s
[01:46] <qos> berni_, yeah. they should get the functionality of an external-usb-harddrive ... enable them with a switch if u need them otherwise there is no power on them over days...
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> fluurp:  check the video settings options in the zsnes menus/configs.. I recall a similer issue with it ages ago.  There re other snes emulators out there also.
[01:47] <berni_> qos if fear that this is not possible, just because the bios inizializes all the hdds. You can unplug them and plug them in if you need them. Sata has hot detection
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. My External USB drives allready spin down when not in use.. automatically...
[01:48] <pixlbox> anyone suggest any good CMS ?
[01:48] <berni_> qos this is not a linux issue, the kernel cann't prevent the bios to init the hdds
[01:48] <ruben23> hi guys ive installed samba on my linux desktop problem is when i click network i can see the workgroupp of my windows-but when i double click i get error cant mount
[01:48] <qos> berni_, ok, i understand
[01:48] <ruben23> how do i make network sharing with my linux desktop to my windows network
[01:48] <vsd> hey all. i just tried to install ultimate bet poker on wine and once the app loads it freezes up and stops responding. anyone know of any fixes?
[01:48] <ruben23> anyone have idea on this
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  some times the gnome file manger gets a little confused.. ive had to type in the full url to the windows shares the first time to get it straightened out.
[01:49] <qos> berni_, is it possible to simply plug the power off the drive while it runs?
[01:49] <berni_> ruben23 want to share files on linux to win or other direction ?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  or is it the windows box having the issue?
[01:49] <bazhang> vsd, does the appdb say it will run? have you checked?
[01:49] <ruben23> yes
[01:49] <berni_> qos would not recommend but if the device is in powersaving .. don't think it would harm
[01:49] <berni_> qos do you fear power consumption or lifetime ?
[01:49] <vsd> whats the appdb... :-|
[01:50] <ruben23> Dr_Willis:  are working...
[01:50] <qos> berni_, lifetime :)
[01:50] <vsd> i've never used wine before this
[01:50] <bazhang> !appdb > vsd
[01:50] <ruben23> but my linux desktop cant network and share on them..
[01:50] <Babar1> bedelerik@hotmail.com ????
[01:50] <erichammond> My Verizon USB modem works wonderfully with Jaunty until at random points, it gets disconnected with these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253430/ I plug it into the USB on the other side of the laptop and it picks up again for a while.  Once both have crashed, only a reboot seems to solve it.  Ideas?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  try somthing like smb://SERvERNAME/sharename/
[01:50] <berni_> qos if you need the hdds each second day i would suggest to let them plugged
[01:50] <berni_> qos how often do you restart your server a day ?
[01:50] <qos> berni_, 1-3 days?!
[01:51] <vsd> bazhang i dont understand what you are saying
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  ive just noticed that the samba share browser canbe a little quirky at times..  i give the full path.. it pops up a user/pass dialog.. i enter the proper info.. then it seems to work right for me after that.
[01:51] <fluurp> bazhang, i set up  1024x768 F and it just goes  back to the panel and pops up after 10\15 sec.
[01:51] <ruben23> hmm.ok
[01:51] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org  vsd
[01:51] <ruben23> ill try to type the exact url
[01:51] <berni_> qos then it should be no problem with the livetime at all. i have my personal pc running each day, multiplerestarts and i never got an broken hdd
[01:51] <bullgard4> Where is there a manual or description of polkit-gnome-authorization?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> If you are that worried about exteranal hd's dieing.. a cooling fan on them.. might be a good idea..   then again.. if they power down automatically after non use thent hey shouldent be getting that hot.
[01:52] <ruben23> smb://SERvERNAME/sharename/------->serername means the workgroup of the windows..
[01:52] <ruben23> or the windows client itself..?
[01:52] <mythomaniac> anyone here experienced with freenx?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  the servers name.. you are allready using the default workgroup I think. Which i always set in smb.conf
[01:53] <qos> berni_, i had not this luck ;)
[01:53] <berni_> bullgard4: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/polkit-auth.1.html maybe ?
[01:53] <th0r> mythomaniac: I was never able to get freenx working, but the NX webpage has a free version available
[01:53] <berni_> qos what was the fault of the hdd ? didn't spin up again ?
[01:53] <berni_> qos how old
[01:54] <berni_> qos imho the main hdd killer is high temperatur ..
[01:54] <mythomaniac> th0r, well i can get it working, but one feature... and that is the vnc option, with display 0 on the remote
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Hard Drives can die - They are proberly the Weakest link in PC hardware...
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> and eventually all hard drives will die.. thats just how it is.
[01:54] <berni_> Dr_Willis 0 hdd down 2 graphics cards :)
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> berni_:  you are special. :)
[01:55] <Yorokobi> why would /dev/pts/0 be owned by root.dialout and unusable by a regular user?
[01:55] <ruben23> Dr_Willis:  so i need to setup the workgroup on the smb.conf........? cos i have an exixting workgroup on the windows network 3TRGLOBAL
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> berni_:  quit pluggint the cards in with the power on.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  i always set mine in smb.conf to be the proper one..
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> ruben23:  if you want the linux box to be part of that workgroup.. then logically yes.. you should set it there.
[01:56] <bullgard4> berni_: Your article is about 'polkit-auth'. How is this related to polkit-gnome-authorization?
[01:57] <berni_> bullgard4: ref gnome.org Policy for these actions can be set up using the polkit-gnome-authorization tool, or the polkit-auth command line program.
[01:57] <Laibsch> Can somebody explain to me why the hardy samba source does not compile in karmic?  I wouldn't be surprised if karmic -> hardy wouldn't work.  But this is kind of new to me.
[01:57] <highclasshole> anyone need any help with electricsheep on 9.04
[01:57] <dumb_dumb> guys help me please
[01:57] <Laibsch> I'm trying to pinpoint a regression
[01:57] <highclasshole> I got it working, I wanna see if its a universal fix
[01:57] <berni_> dump_dump Q ?
[01:57] <dumb_dumb> how to move user home directory to /home/A to /var/www
[01:57] <berni_> dumb_dumb Q ?
[01:58] <berni_> dumb_dumb are you logged in  as A ?
[01:58] <Laibsch> failure log is at https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+build/1164451
[01:58] <dumb_dumb> root
[01:58] <berni_> dumb_dumb open terminal
[01:58] <bucky> Laibsch: did you get all the dev files... did you apt-get build-dep samba ?
[01:58] <berni_> dumb_dumb enter sudo mv /home/A /var/www
[01:59] <Laibsch> bucky: I tried this in a pbuilder chroot.  The same goes for the PPA.
[01:59] <Laibsch> The build-time deps are automatically fulfilled
[02:00] <bucky> Laibsch: maybe a compiler change.. you know that karmic has a newer gcc   any errors?
[02:00] <Laibsch> https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+build/1164451
[02:01] <bullgard4> berni_: Thank you very much for your help.
[02:01] <Ryan___> My laptop gets really lousy wireless range when I'm running Ubuntu, but it still works if I'm close enough to the router. Running Windows, it gets much better range. Any idea what could cause this and/or how to make Ubuntu get better range?
[02:01] <quickstart> hello everyone
[02:01] <qos> berni_, my drives are water cooled ... i guess this is enought ;)
[02:01] <dumb_dumb> berni_ after doing that command if user login using those account it will automatically open /var/www
[02:02] <quickstart> I installed a new ddr chip to my ibook lappy and it doesn't recognize it any ideas???
[02:02] <earthmeLon> Hey buddies.  I'm wondering if the gnome-screensaver is responsible for my screen going black even when GDM hasn't started/when I'm only using console.
[02:02] <josh_> i have a dumbass question
[02:02] <josh_> kde and emerald
[02:02] <ptsblkbr> Hello, I am trying to figure out why Ubunut froze and how to decipher which message log to look at?
[02:03] <josh_> i managed to download some themes in emerald, i applyed one and it worked, i restarted cause cairodock was all mong
[02:03] <josh_> and now i cant find the themes again in emerald
[02:03] <qos> are there some PPAs where the get the latest compat-wireless?
[02:03] <bullgard4> Ryan___: "much better" is no exact description. You did not even mention your WLAN card. How can people help you with such a lousy problem description?
[02:04] <quickstart> Ubuntu won't recognize the memory I just installed on my lappy any ideas
[02:04] <quickstart> ??
[02:04] <Cosmic_Karma> is it just me or does eveyone try to do like 5 things at once lol?
[02:04] <test34> quickstart: how many gigabytes
[02:04] <th0r> quickstart: how much memory?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Cosmic_Karma:  I do about 6 at once.
[02:04] <quickstart> 1 gb ddr pc227
[02:04] <quickstart> i mean 2700
[02:04] <berni> earthmeLon from : ubuntuformus.org I believe this is contolled by the "BLANK_TIME" setting in /etc/console-tools/config.
[02:04] <test34> quickstart: 1gb total?
[02:04] <dmaxx> my usb memory stick/card working fine in ubuntu but i don't get access 2 it on kubuntu,it's show up but only get error messenger,someone know what 2 do???-_-
[02:04] <quickstart> yes
[02:05] <Ryan___> bullgard4: Sorry, I was just wondering if this was a common problem. I was guessing it was a driver issue and was wondering if someone could direct me to a site for that. I was planning to post a more detailed description on the forums.
[02:05] <quickstart> its supported by the computer I did my research
[02:05] <test34> quickstart: sorry I dont know then
[02:05] <quickstart> is it necessary that I reinstall ubuntu for it to recognize it
[02:05] <quickstart> ???
[02:05] <test34> quickstart: How much ram is receognizes
[02:05] <test34> quickstart: How much ram is receognized
[02:05] <quickstart> cause I check the system monitor and it only recognize the onboard memory
[02:05] <quickstart> 256
[02:05] <quickstart> and thats the built in
[02:05] <berni> quickstart no reinstallation required ..
[02:06] <earthmeLon> Indeed, berni.  Setting it to 0 seems to be the solution.  Thank you
[02:06] <quickstart> it should automatically recognize it right??
[02:06] <th0r> quickstart: might need to change a bios setting at bootup
[02:06] <Ryan___> bullgard4: Regarding the "much better" range, I have found physical locations where my laptop can connect running Windows but fails to connect running Ubuntu.
[02:06] <berni> quickstart check the bios output .
[02:06] <quickstart> so how would I go about that in the open firmware
[02:06] <quickstart> ???
[02:06] <quickstart> its a ibook g4
[02:06] <berni> quickstart how much ram does the bios detect during post ?
[02:06] <Cosmic_Karma> DR_Willis had to get in the oneupsmanship? its cool figured 5 is a nice round avg, do u actually finish everything u start that tends to be my problem
[02:06] <foundry87> How can I remove the Rhythmbox tray icon?
[02:06] <cryogen> are there any bitches in here?
[02:07] <Cosmic_Karma> lmao
[02:07] <quickstart> not sure I'm afraid how could I find out on my ibook g4
[02:07] <quickstart> ?
[02:07] <bazhang> cryogen, stop that
[02:07] <berni> quickstart do you have dual boot mac ?=
[02:07] <quickstart> nope pure ubuntu
[02:07] <Cosmic_Karma> big pimpin on the ubuntu irc channel lmao
[02:07] <Cosmic_Karma> u da man
[02:07] <bucky> Laibsch: it's saying you don't have apt-utils installed.. i don't know if that's the problem BUT... it looks like a linker problem similar to this one http://www.nabble.com/samba-3.2.6-link-error-td21018825.html
[02:07] <cryogen> wait...
[02:07] <berni> quickstart most common issue is that the macbook is not compatible with the ram.
[02:07] <cryogen> hot chicks don't use IRC
[02:08] <kermit> i'm happy with ubuntu and want to grow my ext4 into my old ntfs, but the ntfs is first on the disk, how can i do this?
[02:08] <bazhang> cryogen, keep on topic
[02:08] <Kittykis> yes we do
[02:08] <quickstart> its odd cause I checked crucial.com and it matches the specs given on the website
[02:08] <quickstart> for this model
[02:08] <cryogen> ubuntu...linux?
[02:08] <berni> kermit is ntfs  a win system partition with a windows on it ?
[02:08] <dumb_dumb> guys how to change user default home directory
[02:09] <kermit> berni: yes, i dont need it anymore, ubuntu works :)
[02:09] <th0r> dumb_dumb: I knew you'd be back....moving the home directory to /var/www was not a good idea....and now moving it back will screw up all the permissions and ownerships.
[02:09] <bullgard4> Ryan___: It is a good idea to turn to a forum with your specific problem. --  Generally the range of WLAN cards driven by Linux drivers is not worse than when driven by Windows drivers. But I read that is worse in cases where the chipset manufacturer did not publish a free driver and Linux people tried to guess their innards.
[02:09] <berni> kermit i experienced a lot of troubles doing such resizing
[02:09] <th0r> dumb_dumb: and you can't make /var/www the home directory for a user
[02:10] <berni> kermit the easiest way is to make a backup of the WHOLE data and then wipe out both partitions and insert live cd > create one huge ext4
[02:10] <dmaxx> mmory card/usb work on ubuntu but not kubuntu WHY??
[02:10] <dumb_dumb> i have installer lamp on my ubuntu
[02:10] <kermit> berni: that'd be too easy, there has to be a hackerish way to do this ;)
[02:10] <dumb_dumb> now i want to create user that can ftp to the /var/www
[02:10] <kermit> maybe i could raid 0 them together
[02:10] <berni> kermit : you can convert ntfs to ext4 . then copy all files to it
[02:11] <ir8> th0r: sure you make /var/www a root directory for any users, but i would advise it tho.
[02:11] <upsidedown> hello all...
[02:11] <kermit> berni: oh hmm
[02:11] <ir8> Hmm yawns.
[02:11] <kermit> berni: just cp -pr ?
[02:11] <berni> kermit then delete the second ext4 but don't forget to change the menu.lst
[02:11] <upsidedown> i have a question about compiz, is this the right place to ask it?
[02:11] <th0r> ir8: you gonna give a user permissions in /var?
[02:11] <kermit> berni: (cp -pr from a boot off a cd)
[02:11] <berni> kermit then use fdisk and resize the first partition in export mode
[02:11] <muxfr> I'm quite confused. because alsa mixer says card HDA  Intel and chip IDT so what's the difference between both, and how can I get it running?
[02:11] <berni> *expert mode
[02:11] <ir8> th0r: just to /var/www if needed.
[02:11] <kermit> berni: hmm
[02:11] <berni> kermit yes live cd
[02:11] <th0r> ir8: I think you will find apache will stop working if the user owns /var/www
[02:11] <Dacvak1> Dr_Willis: I'm currently installing it with a USB drive.
[02:11] <Dacvak1> I think it's working.
[02:12] <Dacvak1> So, I thank you.
[02:12] <ir8> add the user to the apache group and weeee!
[02:12] <kermit> berni: actually i can cat sda4 > sda2
[02:12] <kermit> berni: it fits
[02:12] <[[ZERO]]> update kernel
[02:12] <dumb_dumb> so th0r how i can make user add their own web page?
[02:12] <berni> kermit  then use the resize2fs /dev/sda1
[02:12] <th0r> ir8: right, but if the user doesn;t own his homepage he is going to be in trouble trying to write configs and such
[02:12] <kermit> berni: but theres gotta be a way, with lvd or md (raid 0) to map it in..
[02:12] <berni> kermit no don't cat
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak1:  I never bother with burning cd's any more
[02:12] <kermit> er lvm
[02:12] <kermit> berni: why not cat?
[02:12] <berni> kermit size difference
[02:12] <th0r> dumb_dumb: you should just add the user to the apache group and that should give him access to /var/www
[02:13] <kermit> berni: but i'm going to grow the ext4 anyway
[02:13] <qos> is there a possibility to search for packages in PPAs on launchpad?
[02:13] <Laibsch> bucky: Thank you for taking a look.  But I don't really see any connection between either apt-utils nor the linker failure you posted the URL.
[02:13] <kermit> berni: sda2 is bigger than sda4 so it'd fit
[02:13] <berni> but it would be saver to create a new filesystem and copy the data
[02:13] <berni> kermit you won't loose any data
[02:13] <th0r> ir8: (home dir...not homepage)
[02:13] <Laibsch> But I don't really see any connection between either apt-utils nor the linker failure you posted the URL on the one hand and the compile failure I saw on the other.
[02:14] <cmartin0> is there away to make update manager not take 100% for 5min?
[02:14] <berni> kermit : when you cat you are messing up the partion endings and stuff
[02:14] <berni> cmartin0 maybe you installed too much software :)
[02:14] <cmartin0> ffs
[02:14] <cmartin0> 2.2ghzcore 2  and sloow
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> cmartin0:  try manually doing a sudo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and see  if its the actual update-manager gui thata having issues.. or somthing else...
[02:15] <dmaxx> yo can someone please answer my q soon -_- "Q: memory card work fine on ubuntu but not kubuntu, why??"
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> i rarely have  update manager cause issues.
[02:15] <bucky> Laibsch: you can try to do a fresh build (autogen / configure / make everything) like the link said.. may even install apt-utils or  .,...just try nothing
[02:15] <ir8> th0r: okay, then just add user to the apache group, then edit the /etc/passwd to change the home directory, and set the permissions correctly, so his user to write to the directory it a simple to do. I would surely not advise that tho due to security risks and other stuff..
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> dmaxx:  'memory card' meaning what exactly?  flash/usb drive?
[02:15] <Laibsch> bucky: Have you ever compiled something in pbuilder?
[02:15] <cmartin0> maybe python blew chunks
[02:15] <bucky> Laibsch: i'd try an autogen in the directory first
[02:16] <dmaxx> both
[02:16] <Laibsch> bucky: Have you ever compiled something in pbuilder?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> cmartin0:  thats why i suggestd  trying it by hand.
[02:16] <dmaxx> Dr_Willis: my hdd wont work on kubuntu either
[02:16] <dmaxx> -_-
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> dmaxx:  try mounting it by hand. could be kubuntu/kde isent automoungint it..  deoending on whats 'not working' means in this case.
[02:16] <bucky> Laibsch: yes i have and it doesn't give you the opportunity to do much... are you crosscompiling? is that why you need pbuilder?
[02:16] <Laibsch> no
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> dmaxx:  you got deeper issues then..  depending on  what 'wont work' means.
[02:17] <Laibsch> What does cross-compiling have to do with it?
[02:17] <bucky> Laibsch: do you have something against dpkg-buildpackage or dhmake or friends?
[02:17] <dmaxx> Dr_Willis like everytime i plug hdd or card/usb memory in i just get error messenger
[02:18] <berni> dmaxx and the exact error message is ?
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> dmaxx:  perhaps tell the channel the error message? and mention it in #kubutu if it seems tobe a KDE only issue....
[02:18]  * Dr_Willis hates playing 20 questions to get to the ACTUAL problem.
[02:18] <bullgard4> berni_: PolicyKit seems to be a set of certain policies bundled. Where can I find information what policies the PolicyKit comprises?
[02:19] <Laibsch> bucky: pbuilder usually protects me from a lot of PEBKAC
[02:19] <dmaxx> Dr_Willis: just gonna find the messenger
[02:19] <Laibsch> bucky: Trying debuild instead of pdebuild seems like a step backwards in this case
[02:19] <Laibsch> bucky: And I can't see how it should help any.
[02:19] <joem_> does anybody know how to set alsa to play output sound through the line in on a sound card?
[02:20] <Laibsch> but I'll give it a shot
[02:20] <berni> bullgard4 what do you want to do ?
[02:20] <J2daosh> so , who in here has used john the ripper before?
[02:20] <dmaxx> Dr_Willis:i will go 2 #kubuntu then
[02:21] <bullgard4> berni: To understand what PolicyKit is all about. (I have forgotten a Gajim password.)
[02:21] <Laibsch> bucky: That won't help much.   My build host is running hardy, too.
[02:21] <Laibsch> Which is another reason I use pbuilder.
[02:22] <J2daosh> i need some help understanding some john the ripper output
[02:22] <berni> bullgard4 are you sure policykit is the right ?
[02:22] <Cosmic_Karma> does anyone use mint linux? or something like that?
[02:22] <J2daosh> im trying to see if i can unshadow my passwords  but i get what looks to be random garbage
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Cosmic_Karma:  i suggest using normal ubuntu.. and forgetting about 'Mint'
[02:22] <berni> bullgrad4 : wikipedia It provides the capability for non-privileged processes to communicate with privileged ones.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> Cosmic_Karma:  or some of the other 'official' ubuntu variants.   not unofficial ones.
[02:23] <berni> bullgard4 : wikipedia It provides the capability for non-privileged processes to communicate with privileged ones.
[02:23] <Cosmic_Karma> i might try it in vm i am a lifetime gui windows user linux noob it sounded interesting
[02:23] <bullgard4> berni: No. But it seems to be related, and Ubuntu is providing it per default. So I am doing no wrong to obtain general information  about Authorizations via PolicyKit.
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> Cosmic_Karma:  best to learn to use ubuntu.  Not learn 'mint' then have to unlearn the mint quirks..
[02:24] <bullgard4> berni: I will try to do snooping into Wikipedia about that.
[02:24] <berni> bullgard4 policykit is the system you see when you try to change network settings in llinux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PolicyKit.png
[02:24] <berni> bullgard4 good overview http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/model.html
[02:25] <Cosmic_Karma> good advice, thought it was very similar, hardy runs great for me, tried 8.1 and 9.04 and keep havin to reinstall hardy
[02:25] <bullgard4> berni: Thank you for prividing me read stuff. (I am busy nor reading it...)
[02:25] <aman> wtf
[02:25] <berni> aman ?
[02:25] <bazhang> aman, watch the language
[02:25] <bullgard4> s/prividing/providing/
[02:25] <aman> re u real:S
[02:25] <bazhang> aman, yes
[02:25] <aman> realliw
[02:26] <aman> where u from dude:S
[02:26] <Cosmic_Karma> thoughts a little tough  wtf is not like the spelled out the actually bad word
[02:26] <bazhang> aman, this is Ubuntu support; do you have a support question
[02:26] <aman> ok
[02:27] <aman> what kinda qiestion
[02:27] <erichammond> My Verizon USB modem works wonderfully with Jaunty until at random points, it gets disconnected with these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253430/ I plug it into the USB on the other side of the laptop and it picks up again for a while.  Once both have crashed, only a reboot seems to solve it.  Ideas?
[02:27] <berni> lol aman don't spam the chat
[02:27] <bazhang> aman, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[02:28] <aman> look
[02:28] <aman> dude
[02:28] <aman> i dont have any idea
[02:28] <aman> wtf is this
[02:28] <erichammond> Specifically: "uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: host system error, PCI problems? "
[02:28] <aman> where i'm right now
[02:28] <bazhang> aman, then wrong channel. no need for that language
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> aman:  then perhaps you should read up on 'irc' basics. some where.
[02:28] <erichammond> and: "uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: host controller halted, very bad!"
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !irc | aman
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> !guidelines | aman
[02:29] <aman> alright
[02:29] <aman> this is kewl
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> aman:  you are in a Ubuntu support room with over 1000 other people.
[02:29] <aman> so u guys from where
[02:29] <bazhang> aman, not here
[02:29] <aman> are u all using ubunto right now
[02:29] <Cosmic_Karma> i am
[02:29] <aman> ok
[02:29] <aman> hey i need a help
[02:30] <aman> can i ask
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> aman:  if its not 'support' related. it belongs in a different Channel. so  do a /join #ubuntu-offtopic and 'chit chat' in there.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> aman:  if you have a actual support problem then ask the question.
[02:30] <aman> ok
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> aman:  and WE can read more then 2 words on one line.. :)(
[02:30] <aman> wel
[02:30] <Cosmic_Karma> thanks for the link i forgot the name of the other chan
[02:30] <aman> wel wel wel when i go to add n remove in application
[02:31] <aman> i wana install
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> aman:  try using complete sentances.. chopping things up with enter - just makes it harder for us to understand..
[02:31] <aman> in internet  a web brower
[02:31] <erichammond> Would that error be suitable for submitting as a bug on launchpad?
[02:32] <aman> alright
[02:32] <erichammond> or is it more likely a hardware issue?
[02:32] <bazhang> erichammond, if its reproducible sure
[02:32] <gizmobay> I'm looking to change a hardware driver. I'm reading to get to this I need to go to system->Administration->hardware drivers in jaunty. I don't have this menu option. Am I missing a package?
[02:33] <erichammond> bazhang: I can reproduce it by using the USB modem for hours on this particular laptop.  Not sure if others could.
[02:33] <bazhang> erichammond, perhaps worth it nonetheless
[02:34] <Cerrdor> is anyone else having flash issues with mozilla after upgrade?
[02:34] <erichammond> bazhang: Thanks.  Now to get past the timeouts trying to submit a new bug on launchpad the last hour...
[02:34] <bullgard4> erichammond: I suspect a hardware issue but I am not certain. I suspect that there are more errors shown in dmesg at that time. I would suggest that you post your problem to a forum together with more error messages but including http://paste.ubuntu.com/253430/ also.
[02:34] <aman> u know add n remove  i had insalled all the saofware from games office accesories etc etc but i can't abe to insall thtat 1st thing in internet option so what do i doo its sowing  this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[02:34] <aman> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'abrowser-3.0-branding' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[02:34] <aman> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[02:35] <bazhang> aman, you wish to install firefox 3.5?
[02:35] <ar10> gizmobay, try 'sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk' in a terminal. It may prompt you to download additional packages, like graphics card drivers. You should do so.
[02:35] <ipatrol6010> How do I gain root acess in GNOME so I can edit a folder in the / directory?
[02:35] <aman> dude i had asked my qusetion can i have its answer
[02:36] <ipatrol6010> Quick, I need an answer now
[02:36] <bazhang> aman, wanting to install branding package alone? that doesn't make sense
[02:36] <bazhang> ipatrol6010, why do you want to do that
[02:36] <sy1> I think you have to do Sudo
[02:36] <ipatrol6010> So I can edit a Virtual box shared folder
[02:36] <aman> what is branding pakage
[02:36] <aman> dude
[02:36] <sy1> make sure the package does not break the ubuntu
[02:36] <bazhang> ipatrol6010, add yourself to the vbox users group
[02:37] <aman> its a wb brower
[02:37] <ipatrol6010> No, I need myself in the root user group
[02:37] <EagleScreen> ipatrol6010: Alt F2 -> gksu nautilus
[02:37] <gizmobay> ar10, thank you. This is what I needed.
[02:37] <ipatrol6010> It worked!
[02:38] <EagleScreen> aman: iceweasel 3.5 is in experimental repository
[02:38] <aman> its this
[02:38] <aman> guys
[02:38] <aman>  A Web Browser
[02:38] <aman> The ABrowser refers to the unbranded build of firefox 3.0. Install the firefox package if you want a branded build.
[02:38] <aman> This is a meta package that will point to the latest abrowser package in your distribution. Don't remove this if you want to receive automatic major version upgrades for this package in future
[02:38] <FloodBot3> aman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <Cerrdor> I am having issues with a upgrade
[02:39] <EagleScreen> abrowser is a fork of firefox for people who don't want to accept the Firefox EULA
[02:39] <Cerrdor> I upgraded FF to 3.5 and ubuntu to jaunty and now flash will not play
[02:39] <aman> is anybody is here to help
[02:39] <aman> or fucking chat
[02:39] <aman> :@
[02:40] <FloodBot3> aman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <bazhang> aman, last warning on language
[02:40] <Seeker`> aman: watch your language please
[02:40] <aman> plz
[02:40] <aman> help
[02:40] <EagleScreen> aman: ask again
[02:40] <Cerrdor> I upgraded FF to 3.5 and ubuntu to jaunty and now flash will not play
[02:41] <aman> i need to insall this>> A Web Browser
[02:41] <aman> The ABrowser refers to the unbranded build of firefox 3.0. Install the firefox package if you want a branded build.
[02:41] <aman> This is a meta package that will point to the latest abrowser package in your distribution. Don't remove this if you want to receive automatic major version upgrades for this package in future
[02:41] <FloodBot3> aman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <EagleScreen> any problem with abrowser aman?
[02:41] <aman> no
[02:41] <EagleScreen> aman: sudo aptitude install abrowser
[02:42] <sy1> what is the difference between the abrowser and firefox?
[02:42] <aman> eagle
[02:42] <aman> acc
[02:42] <aman> i had insalled all thing
[02:42] <aman> in add and remove
[02:42] <aman> soo
[02:42] <FloodBot3> aman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <Cerrdor> I upgraded FF to 3.5 and ubuntu to jaunty and now flash will not play
[02:43] <aman> i'm wondering why this thing is not installing soo if u have some good suggestion to give them
[02:43] <aman> plz
[02:43] <aman> tell me
[02:43] <sy1> do you install noscript ?
[02:43] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: reinstall flashplugin-installer
[02:43] <aman> who is admin here\
[02:43] <terrafox> hi all, not sure if I am in correct channel(completely new to this) needed to find out if I can run Windows programs in Ubuntu and Kubintu
[02:44] <Cerrdor> I upgraded FF to 3.5 and ubuntu to jaunty and now flash will not play. I also purged flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree and reinstalled both but still says not installed
[02:44] <EagleScreen> and Cerrdor, pay atention to any error during installaiton
[02:44] <bazhang> terrafox, some via wine
[02:44] <sy1> terrafox install wine
[02:44] <aman> bazhang
[02:44] <sy1> but not all program is supported in wine
[02:44] <aman> are u goona help
[02:44] <Cerrdor> EagleScreen, no errors
[02:44] <igsen> Is it possible to convert mvk file to dvd9 by braseiro?
[02:44] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org terrafox check here, help in #winehq
[02:45] <Seeker`> terrafox: a lot of apps have equivalents in ubuntu. Some windows apps can be run via wine, most of the rest can be run in a VM if you have a licence for windows
[02:45] <aman> somebody help
[02:45] <terrafox> i thought wine was to install ubunto if runing windows already?
[02:45] <aman> Cannot install 'abrowser-3.0-branding'
[02:45] <aman> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'abrowser-3.0-branding' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[02:45] <aman> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[02:45] <aman> Cannot install 'abrowser-3.0-branding'
[02:45] <aman> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'abrowser-3.0-branding' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[02:45] <aman> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[02:45] <FloodBot3> aman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <Seeker`> aman: someone will hlep if they know the answer to the question. Please be patient
[02:45] <bazhang> terrafox, that is wubi
[02:45] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: close firefox, open again and try again
[02:45] <Cerrdor> I have 5 times now
[02:45] <Cerrdor> still same
[02:46] <terrafox> lol   sorry
[02:46] <EagleScreen> aman use pastebin and paste the full ourput of the error after trying to install it in synaptic
[02:46] <terrafox> does wine work in both ubuntu and kubntu
[02:46] <bazhang> terrafox, of course
[02:46] <igsen> Is it possible to convert mkv file into dvd9 format by using brasero?
[02:46] <EagleScreen> yes terrafox
[02:46] <bazhang> igsen, ffmpeg winff ?
[02:47] <aman> eagle
[02:47] <EagleScreen> terrafox: Kuubntu and Ubuntu have the same core, only change grpahicla interface
[02:47] <terrafox> ty      any sujestuion as to witch one to install-  like i said i am new to this but would like to work with this software
[02:47] <aman> its  showing this erroe in the internt 1ts 1st software>>>Cannot install 'abrowser-3.0-branding'
[02:47] <aman> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'abrowser-3.0-branding' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[02:47] <aman> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[02:47] <terrafox> i c
[02:47] <igsen> bazhang, please explain a little. I have ffmpeg and winff installed.
[02:47] <bazhang> terrafox, a matter of preference, check to see if there are linux equivalents for windows apps as well
[02:47] <EagleScreen> terrafox: i do not understand your question
[02:47] <Cerrdor> I think amans first problem is not following directions
[02:48] <Seeker`> aman: have you tried following the instructions?
[02:48] <terrafox> if there is a recomendation as to intalling ubunto or kubunto then
[02:48] <bazhang> igsen, you want to create for a standalone dvd?
[02:48] <Seeker`> terrafox: personal preference
[02:48] <Cerrdor> has anyone experienced the same issue with flash not working after upgrade
[02:48] <docgnome> anyone know if there is a newer repository for git debs
[02:48] <bazhang> terrafox, you can install both and switch between them
[02:49] <aman> doen asybdy gives me any instrustion
[02:49] <aman> its doo
[02:49] <fez> dooderonomy
[02:49] <terrafox> prov a stupid question but is there a way to have all 3   (win, ubu an kubu)
[02:49] <aman> messey here how i can ca
[02:49] <bazhang> aman, yes, go into synaptic
[02:49] <aman> where is it
[02:49] <bazhang> terrafox, sure you can dual boot
[02:49] <aman> where is synaptic:|
[02:50] <fez> terrafox, you can have KDE installed as an alternate desktop on your Ubuntu machine
[02:50] <bazhang> aman, system admin synaptic
[02:50] <Cerrdor> terrafox, yes look into LILO or if windows is the main OS edit autoexec.bat
[02:50] <sy1> do you think the KDE should be installed as Kubuntu ?
[02:50] <bazhang> Cerrdor, no need for lilo
[02:50] <igsen> bazhang, i want to burn mkv file to dvd-r disk using brasero and play it into my dvd player.
[02:50] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: a new flash version is out recently, the download URL has could change, this wouldn't be the first time that flashplayer-installer fails silently after this situation
[02:50] <dumb_dumb> guys is there any packet manager beside Synaptic that running GUI on command line
[02:50] <terrafox> that is great.
[02:50] <sy1> instead of using ubuntu and add in kde
[02:50] <sy1> which is unstable?
[02:50] <Cerrdor> EagleScreen, how can I resolve it?
[02:50] <terrafox> whats LILO
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> sy1:  i tend to just install ubuntu, then install the kubuntu-desktop pacakge if i also want kde on teh same machine.
[02:51] <bazhang> terrafox, ignore that, use grub
[02:51] <terrafox> what are they
[02:51] <EagleScreen> dumb_dumb: aptitude?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> terrafox:  bootloaders to boot the OS's
[02:51] <bazhang> terrafox, bootloaders
[02:51] <aman> bazhang
[02:51] <terrafox> so they still require patitioning?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> terrafox:  or just use a kubuntu live cd to test out KDE see if you like it. (many people dont)
[02:51] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: try another package
[02:51] <aman> its in system sttings
[02:51] <bazhang> aman, you need to pay attention
[02:51] <aman> settings
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> terrafox:  to do a normal install of Linux, you normally have it on its own partition - yes.
[02:52] <dumb_dumb> eaglescree can i select the package? or i have to write it the package name?
[02:52] <aman> keyboard and mouse
[02:52] <sy1> hi, is there any other ubuntu repository address ?
[02:52] <bazhang> sy1 for what
[02:52] <EagleScreen> dumb_dumb: you can select and search, and sort them in different lists
[02:52] <aman> bazhang
[02:52] <aman> i'm paying attention
[02:52] <routinepursuit> fujitsu lifebook p1510d bluetooth in dmesg but not in hciscan
[02:52] <terrafox> thank you all, verry exited about this. i guess will be chatting latter after i crash my laptop  lol
[02:52] <terrafox> ty all
[02:53] <bazhang> aman, dont use the enter key as punctuation.
[02:53] <aman> then
[02:53] <aman> what do i use
[02:54] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: what is your arch?
[02:54] <Seeker`> aman: stop putting enter in the middle of lines of text
[02:54] <aman> dude i'm new i have no ide what ur talking abt
[02:54] <bazhang> aman, let me get you a guide to do some basic reading.
[02:54] <Cerrdor> i386
[02:55] <Cerrdor> 32 bit
[02:55] <aman> alright
[02:55] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html   <----- aman download and read please
[02:55] <aman> bazhang i know the fucking basic
[02:55] <aman> i'm not a kid
[02:55] <outy> can someone help me,  facebook resolves to either google, or a blank white page that says "i am alive"
[02:55] <outy> opera/firefox
[02:55] <outy> only in ubuntu
[02:56] <edbian> outy: ?Really?
[02:56] <oldude67> yeah bazhang lol
[02:56] <outy> yeah edbian
[02:56] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: run $ killall firefox-bin and try again
[02:56] <outy> its done it across two installs
[02:56] <Seeker`> outy: something to do with DNS?
[02:56] <Flimflam> hi
[02:57] <outy> im not sure Seeker` , and i dont know how to change it :(
[02:57] <edbian> outy: I think it's your ISP's DNS not working.  Try using "openDNS.com's" servers instead.
[02:57] <Seeker`> what is the output of "host facebook.com" (use pastebin)
[02:57] <earthmeLon> I tried to disable my console screen saver (i currently don't use GDM) by editing /etc/console-tools/config.  I changed BLANK_TIME=0 from =30 and restarted the pc.  My screen still turns blank after a while v_v
[02:57] <Cerrdor> firefox-bin: no process killed
[02:57] <EagleScreen> Cerrdor: if not, try installing from this package http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/f/flash-player/flashplayer-mozilla_10.0.32.18-0.0_i386.deb
[02:58] <paige> hi i am in need of help please
[02:58] <outy> edbian,   i have the router setup with alternate dns to my isp's cause they are shit,  if that makes a difference
[02:58] <nevyn> !ask paige
[02:58] <nevyn> !asktoask
[02:58] <Seeker`> !ask | paige
[02:58] <edbian> outy: What servers are you using?
[02:58] <nevyn> Seeker`: tnx.
[02:59] <outy> internode and pipe qld
[02:59] <paige> i am running linux and need to flash my bios from a usb stick but i cannot find any bootable images that i can cat to /dev/diskX that are larger than 1.44MB
[02:59] <edbian> outy: Try these: https://www.opendns.com/start/device/ubuntu
[02:59] <oldude67> anyone know a good guide to follow on using ssh?
[02:59] <paige> my bios image is 2.1MB
[02:59]  * nevyn wonders how likely it is that iprimus will loose power again this weekend
[02:59] <Seeker`> outy: what is the output of "host facebook.com" run from the command line
[03:00] <paige> been searching the net for well over an hour
[03:00] <outy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253456/
[03:00] <edbian> oldude67: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/InstallingConfiguringTesting
[03:00] <Seeker`> paige: could it be compressed?
[03:00] <nevyn> Seeker`: no.
[03:00] <paige> no i cannot be
[03:01] <nevyn> paige: your bios won't just let you load the new image from a usb stick?
[03:01] <paige> i need to make at least an 8MG bootable stick
[03:01] <nevyn> paige: you sure it has to be bootable?
[03:01] <oldude67> edbian, ty ill take a look at it, hope it is not to complicated as im a hick ...lol
[03:01] <paige> no i have to make a bootable stick
[03:01] <nevyn> your bios doesn't just... DEAL,?
[03:01] <Seeker`> outy: looks like it is resolving the main domain correctly, but the mail servers aren't being resolved properly
[03:01] <outy> hmm
[03:01] <dac> I just feel the need to say that Ubuntu is freaking amazing. I absolutely love this operating system. Thanks to everyone in this chat who helps each other out and keeps this community so badass.
[03:01] <outy> its been doing it ever since i instlaled ubuntu
[03:02] <outy> and i did two installs
[03:02] <dac> That's all. =)
[03:02] <routinepursuit> fujitsu lifebook p1510d bluetooth in dmesg but not in hciscan
[03:02] <docgnome> anyone know if there is a dep repo with a newer version of git in it?
[03:02] <maco> paige: maybe your stick is bad? the whole thing doesnt go bad at once, so normal file writes can route around it, but if you're cat-ing like that it needs enough continuous good blocks at the start of the drive
[03:02] <maco> paige: have you tried another stick?
[03:02] <outy> that opendns ubuntu link,    i cant do the thing it says cause i dont have the "network icon"
[03:02] <paige> if anyone has an image that i can DD to the usb stick that is about 8MB, i would be grateful
[03:03] <paige> the stick is fine
[03:03] <nevyn> paige: problem is you need dos.
[03:03] <paige> the images all make 1.44MB boot
[03:03] <oscurochu> I just got sprint and connected the phone to my computer and noticed there is a mobile broadband option in the wireless networks. i tried to use it but my sprint phone says my username or password is wrong. how exactly am i suppose to set this up? i know my username and i do not know if i have a password
[03:03] <Xerran1> what are the benefits of installing .deb like this?#  dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:04] <maco> Xerran1: its a way toinstall one that isnt in the repositories (ie not available through apt)
[03:04] <hou5ton> I messed up the command to open Gnome-Do ... any way I can find what it is really supposed to be, before I screwed it up?
[03:04] <oscurochu> does anybody know how to setup mobile broadband?
[03:04] <Xerran1> maco: thx
[03:10] <EagleScreen> dpkg -i does not meet
[03:10] <EagleScreen> dpkg -i does not install dependences, but gdebi does
[03:10] <chrissy_> can anybody help me with email on xubuntu
[03:11] <bastidrazor> hou5ton, before you changed it .. i think it was alt + space or shift + space .. something like that
[03:11] <Berzerker> chrissy_, sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[03:11] <Berzerker> anyone here connected to gamesurge.net?
[03:11] <edbian> chrissy_: What do you need to know?
[03:12] <chrissy_> i have but it ask for a exsting email can i create a new one
[03:12] <jdsandeson> Hay all, At work the big boss is asking many questions about ubuntu, I gave him a laptop with intrepid to play with. He is now asking what it would be like if the co was to go to ubuntu on an enterprise level. With paid for support. any ideas on what to tell him?
[03:12] <Berzerker> chrissy_, you don't have an existing email?
[03:12] <teck> i've had  4 beers and 750 ml of wine
[03:12] <edbian> chrissy_: You have to have some sort of backend email provider already.  Thunderbird and evolution and all of them just read the email from some remote server.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  superkey-space
[03:12] <teck> am i drunk
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  ie: the windows key.
[03:13] <chrissy_> yes but if i use it the email goes to my other computer
[03:13] <arquebus> jdsandeson: show him this:  http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html
[03:13] <bazhang> teck, take chat elsewhere
[03:13] <oscurochu> tech do you need something?
[03:13] <edbian> jdsandeson: Red Hat specializes in linux support at the enterprise level.  But ubuntu in an enterprise environment is very doable.
[03:13] <aayala> i have a problem using remote desktop on ubuntu 9.04  sometime says your computer can see only on local network and sometimes giveme the ip public address why ?
[03:15] <paige> does anyone have a usb bootable image for a usb drive that is at least 8MB of space available?
[03:15] <paige> i really  need to flash
[03:15] <docgnome> how would i pull in git from karmic into jaunty?
[03:16] <jdsandeson> edbian: yes i know but they have seen me using the ubuntu  for a couple of years and it may confuse them further to introduce red hat
[03:16] <mrwes> paige, uh?
[03:16] <edbian> jdsandeson: Ubuntu offers support as well.
[03:16] <J-_> What path does wicd install in? I need the executable to put in my autostart folder in Kubuntu.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> paige:  most usb 'img' files you dd to a flash drive.. you MIGHT be able to resize with gparted.. but that dosent make them have a peristant save feature..
[03:18] <edbian> jdsandeson: I would be estatic that your employer even considers ubuntu a possiblity.  My experience has shown me 3 employers.  1 Does not know what linux is and doesn't care.  1 Knew what it was and hated it out of fear, and 1 did not know what linux was and thought I was making it up.
[03:18] <lollan> hi, does any one knows a tool which allows to make copy of the hard drive, some kind of ghost software.
[03:18] <RPG_Master> I want to get rid of my Kubuntu partition. How do I do this properly?
[03:18] <gnr> lollan:clonezilla
[03:18] <maco> lollan: g4l
[03:19] <docgnome> anybody?
[03:19] <lollan> thanks gnr and maco i check that now
[03:19] <earthmeLon> Hmmm.  Are there any good terminal/console mp3 players?  I'm looking for something that would be able to import playlists/create playlists
[03:19] <test34> lollan: rsync
[03:19]  * MeRodent is trying to follow the documentation guide on installing ubuntu from a USB drive and it says copy vmlinuz, initrd.gz and syslinux.cfg from the Ubuntu archives to the stick. Can anyone suggest where I get them from?
[03:19] <mdg> hello!  Anyone here familiar with an app to playback audio with foot pedal control?
[03:19] <bazhang> docgnome, very bad idea to mix version packages or repos
[03:19] <docgnome> i need a newer version of ubuntu than 1.6.0
[03:20] <docgnome> er
[03:20] <lomez> hi, ive got ubuntu netbook remix on my eeepc,  and the sound works fine but not when i plug in my headphones. (they work fine elsewhere) suggestions?
[03:20] <docgnome> of git i mean
[03:20] <hou5ton> bastidrazor:  I have the icon working again ....
[03:20] <test34> MeRodent: /boot ?
[03:20] <mdg> MeRodent: you are trying to install ubuntu to a flash drive or from a flash drive?
[03:20] <maco> lomez: bad sound drivers. i think theres already a bug filed with a workaround on http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs though
[03:21] <MeRodent> mdg: from a flash drive. Trying to set the flash drive up so I can load ubuntu server onto my Revo when I get it.
[03:21] <hou5ton> bastidrazor:   but still ... apparantly I have to click an icon to then use keyboard shortcuts ..... seems a little weird
[03:21] <maco> lomez: at least, i think i saw an eeepc workaround on there recently....
[03:21] <test34> bluetooth headsets working in ubuntu now ?
[03:21] <RPG_Master> Soooo..... about my kubuntu partition...
[03:21] <RPG_Master> anyone?
[03:21] <mdg> MeRodent: do you want a flash drive like a live cd?
[03:21] <maco> test34: umm if you have trouble configuring bt stuff, i hear blueman is good for that
[03:21] <maco> RPG_Master: whats up? i use kubuntu
[03:21] <bazhang> RPG_Master, with gparted live cd or ubuntu livecd?
[03:21] <MeRodent> mdg, yep.
[03:21] <mdg> MeRodent: I setup my flash drive with unetbootin, ran it live and clicked the "install" icon
[03:22] <lollan> by the way, my firefox often crash on me, i'm using Jaunty 9.04. Is there any tricks for that not to happens ?
[03:22] <bazhang> RPG_Master, going full on to windows? or want to install something else?
[03:22] <docgnome> any other suggestions on how to get a newer git? short of rolling my own that is
[03:22] <maco> lollan: avoid flash because adobe only puts effort into their stuff that costs $700?
[03:22] <RPG_Master> I want to get rid of my Kubuntu partition. How do I do this properly?
[03:22] <test34> lollan: firefox version?
[03:22] <mdg> MeRodent: you said ubuntu server version?
[03:22] <test34> maco: I tried it a few months ago
[03:22] <RPG_Master> bazhang: Heck no! I was just trying out Kubuntu :P
[03:23] <test34> maco: (no success)
[03:23] <RPG_Master> I normally use Ubuntu
[03:23] <bazhang> RPG_Master, you want pure gnome?
[03:23] <bazhang> !puregnome | RPG_Master
[03:23] <lollan> test34: 3.0.13
[03:23] <MeRodent> mdg, yes. I want to run the netbox as a server - 8.04LTS. Which I'll be able to do from the ISO as long as I can boot off the USB stick.
[03:23] <lollan> maco: avoiding flash ? That would be awesome, but it's not my call T_T
[03:24] <RPG_Master> bazhang:  No, I have my main partition with Ubuntu on it and then I have a 6gig partition which I put Kubuntu on.
[03:24] <mdg> MeRodent: have you determined if you computer can boot from a USB stick? How old is it?
[03:24] <lomez> hmm, i dont see it on there, maco thanks though
[03:24] <maco> lollan: personally, i use swfdec instead of adobe flash. its good enough for youtube but tends to screw up on sites done entirely with flash. its a bit more stable though...
[03:24] <test34> lollan: I dont have any problems with 3.0, but I did with 3.5.. so sorry I don't know
[03:24] <bazhang> RPG_Master, then use the live cd or the gparted live cd to delete and reformat it
[03:24] <bazhang> lollan, which plugins do you use?
[03:24] <RPG_Master> bazhang: Will doing that screw up my Grub?
[03:25] <b3rz3rk3r> lollan, you could use a flash blocker to follow maco's advice
[03:25] <MeRodent> mdg, the Revo is an atom 1.6Ghz (processor) powered mini desktop.
[03:25] <spO> when you install a kernel, it installs files to /var/modules/newkernel  ,   /boot/kernel & menu.lst .... and where else?
[03:25] <test34> flash "cookies" http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
[03:26] <mdg> MeRodent: I would suggest setting up your USB flash drive by using unetbooting - its so easy
[03:26] <MeRodent> mdg, just looking at the wiki now and it looks like what I'm after.
[03:26] <mdg> MeRodent: you can use the .iso you already downloaded
[03:27] <MeRodent> mdg, Just a shame that the ubunut help file misses out on such a small detail as to where to get the files.
[03:28] <mdg> MeRodent: which files - the .iso or unetbootin?
[03:28] <MeRodent> mdg, not netbootin, the USB memory stick help files in the ubuntu docs.
[03:29] <mdg> MeRodent: oh
[03:29] <spO> dpkg -C shows packages that have been partially installed,   how do i display packages that have been installed compeletely?
[03:29] <bazhang> dpkg -l
[03:29] <spO> thanks
[03:29] <spO> bazhang, how did you know that?
[03:30] <bazhang> spO, repeated questionings and watching this channel
[03:30] <spO> bazhang, i see, how often do you watch this channel?
[03:30] <bazhang> too much
[03:30] <spO> bazhang, do you use any other comand besides dpkg?
[03:31] <skrapasor> is there a command in vim for inserting a single character without going into insert mode? if not, how would i create a command myself like that?
[03:31] <bazhang> spO, for doing what
[03:31] <spO> baz, for command line/console package management
[03:31] <bucky> skrapasor: there's
[03:31] <bucky> skrapasor: there's 'r' for a single replace
[03:31] <Neurotiquette> Any of you booted FROM an ipod? I'm thinking about using it as a boot tool with something like backtrack, and partition images on it.
[03:31] <skrapasor> bucky: thats replace, not insert
[03:31] <ir8> http://inquisitr.com/extra/wp-content/2009/02/asshat.jpg
[03:31] <ir8> bawhah
[03:31] <ir8> ;p
[03:32] <bazhang> spO, tend just to use apt-get for package management
[03:32] <psycho_oreos> Neurotiquette, not possible
[03:32] <mdg> spO: try apt-cache search, apt-cache show
[03:32] <bazhang> ir8, dont spam here
[03:32] <Neurotiquette> psycho_oreos: Why?
[03:32] <Neurotiquette> I've read a few posts of people saying they've done it, but not explaining how to do it.
[03:32] <psycho_oreos> Neurotiquette, because the device emulates itself as a storage device, meaning that the ipod has to be fully booted in a fashion that would destroy the ipod firmware itself
[03:33] <bucky> skrapasor: http://objectmix.com/editors/148791-vim-command-insert-single-character-return-normal-mode.html
[03:33] <Neurotiquette> fine with me
[03:33] <Neurotiquette> i'll never use it foor mp3s again
[03:33] <damo221> how do i chroot into my old root and maintain access to /proc? i need to update grub on a partition which i moved
[03:33] <Neurotiquette> it's sat in my closet for a year
[03:33] <damo221> im running off a livecd
[03:33] <psycho_oreos> Neurotiquette, and why won't you sell it for usb stick?
[03:34] <skrapasor> bucky: thanks
[03:34] <Jaha> hello
[03:34] <EagleScreen> damo221: sudo mount proc/ proc/ -t proc
[03:34] <tread> Hi guys.  I have a USB sound card, just got it working with Ubuntu last night.  After a reboot, now Ubuntu doesn't even notice when I plug it in! `ls /dev/dsp*` doesn't show it like it did last night (before the reboot).  What can I do?  Please help!
[03:35] <damo221> EagleScreen: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[03:35] <EagleScreen> if you as root yet try without sudo
[03:35] <damo221> EagleScreen: mount: /proc already mounted or proc/ busy
[03:35] <damo221> mount: according to mtab, proc is already mounted on /proc
[03:36] <EagleScreen> damo221: this is after switch to chroot
[03:36] <damo221> EagleScreen: yes, i did that
[03:37] <damo221> EagleScreen: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot ~/linux
[03:37] <damo221> root@ubuntu:/# mount proc/ proc/ -t proc
[03:37] <damo221> and i get that error
[03:37] <spO> baz, you mostly upgrade by apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <MeRodent> mdg, thanks mate. looks like it's done the trick. :)
[03:38] <EagleScreen> damo221: try without /proc
[03:38] <tread> If the usb device isn't being given a listing in /dev, what can I do to make Ubuntu find it?
[03:38] <bazhang> spO, by the update-manager usually
[03:39] <bazhang> spO, unless you are referring to upgrade version, ie hardy to intrepid etc
[03:39] <Neurotiquette> psycho_oreos: Because I want to use it as my OWN usb stick, thats the point hehe... a bootable one preferably!
[03:39] <BlakStone> After changing a connection to manual settings in network manager (changing to manual IP address) the connection isn't affected and is still using the old IP, how would I restart the service (which service is it) to enable changes?
[03:40] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> please, how do I group messages by subject in evolution?
[03:40] <damo221> EagleScreen: root@ubuntu:/# mount -t proc proc /proc
[03:40] <Berzerker> Kamus_H_Zwisch, you use a better email client.
[03:40] <damo221> mount: proc already mounted
[03:40] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Berzerker: like?
[03:40] <Berzerker> Kamus_H_Zwisch, Thunderbird
[03:41] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Berzerker: k
[03:41] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> thanks
[03:41] <overshard> is there a way to setup sudo so that a user can do everything but view other users hime dirs?
[03:41] <lollan> bazhang , b3rz3rk3r sorry I was away
[03:41] <overshard> and edit the sudo file
[03:41] <lollan> bazhang: I use the standard flash plugin from adobe i think
[03:42] <enovativ> hello to all....i would like to format my external drive as a NTFS, but I would like to do in linux....
[03:42] <psycho_oreos> Neurotiquette, more like you're giving yourself more unnecessary work
[03:42] <bazhang> lollan, any other plugins? only that one? check about:plugins in browser address bar
[03:42] <tread> This is driving me crazy.  Yesterday, I plug in my USB device, and I can access it in /dev but not otherwise. Finally, I got it configured and working.  Then, since I rebooted, it doesn't even get listed in /dev when I plug it in :(  If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.
[03:42] <tread> I don't wanna have to switch back to Windows...
[03:44] <EagleScreen> tread: plug it well lol
[03:44] <jshriver> good evening
[03:45] <jshriver> Anyone have info or leads in how to write code in C to interface with the sound card for recording from line-in/mic or sending tones out?
[03:45] <lollan> bazhang: I've got Schockwave flash, VLC multimedia plugin, Windows Media player plug-in (I didn't even knew for that one) , QuickTime plugin, Java(TM) Plugin , Divx web player , Demo print plugin . Thqt's qll i got
[03:45] <psycho_oreos> I love how some people use threat remarks of switching back to windows.. nobody is stopping you
[03:46] <maco> jshriver: look into the "alsa safe subset" and the pulseaudio api
[03:46] <jshriver> thank you.
[03:46] <tread> EagleScreen, I've tried it in 2 different USB ports.
[03:46] <jshriver> googling now :)
[03:46] <EagleScreen> tread: use 'dmesg' command to obtain some feedback when you plug in a usb device and pay atention to possible errors
[03:46] <maco> jshriver: do not use parts of the alsa api outside the safe subset.  theyll find new and interestng ways to reak
[03:46] <maco> jshriver: *break
[03:46] <lollan> tread: did you try with an other usb ?
[03:46] <bazhang> lollan, you may wish to try disabling some of them until you find the right combo, some plugins are not well done and will absolutely crash your browser or render it near unusable
[03:47] <lollan> ok thank you bazhang. I didn't think that Firefox could have trouble running on linux though
[03:47] <vassler> does ubuntu/linux have any GUI app's for creating 3d animated file for a web page?
[03:47] <bazhang> lollan, not firefox, the plugins are at times poorly done
[03:48] <tread> EagleScreen, thank you!  That illuminated what's going wrong.
[03:48] <lollan> bazhang: ok
[03:49] <muxfr> Hi
[03:49] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hi
[03:49] <muxfr> I'm still having trouble with my intel audio card
[03:49] <muxfr> I tried many things, but nothing works
[03:49] <muxfr> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[03:50] <muxfr> I've been googling for hours
[03:50] <jshriver> maco: awesome man tyvm. Found a nice article on the alsa safe subset looks like the pcm playback/recording will do everything I need.
[03:52] <Gnea> muxfr: built-in or pci card?
[03:52] <muxfr> it's a labtop
[03:52] <muxfr> hp dv6 1105ee
[03:52] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto muxfr read this?
[03:53] <carlos> #ubuntu-es
[03:53] <Dacvak1> Hi. How do I get rid of these shared folder icons on my desktop? http://imgur.com/f1UtN.png
[03:53] <muxfr> bazhang, : yes I read that already, no luck
[03:53] <Gnea> muxfr: jaunty?
[03:53] <muxfr> yes
[03:53] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Dacvak1: gconf-editor
[03:53] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Dacvak1: apps>naautilus>desktop>prefences
[03:53] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> network icon visible or something like that
[03:54] <J3ster_> can any one help me out with changing my hdd's linux file persissions and ownership, i have read the chmod & chown man pages but this has not help me sorted me problem
[03:54] <Gnea> muxfr: tried this? http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/howto-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-pavilion-dv2000-dv6000-dv9000-series-laptops#audio
[03:54] <Dacvak1> Thanks guys
[03:54] <Jaha> meow
[03:55] <J3ster_> my media folder with a ls -l looks like this -
[03:55] <J3ster_> drwx------ 9 craig root 32768 1970-01-01 12:00 BACK-UP DRV
[03:55] <J3ster_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   999     6 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom -> cdrom0
[03:55] <J3ster_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root   999  4096 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom0
[03:55] <J3ster_> drwxrwxrwx 1 root  root 16384 2009-08-14 17:09 Storage
[03:55] <FloodBot3> J3ster_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <skrapasor> how can i move in vim using a : command?
[03:55] <Gnea> 'move'?
[03:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> like
[03:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hjkl?
[03:55] <HowardTheDuck> hey kids!!!
[03:55] <HowardTheDuck> hows my hangin!
[03:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hey HowardTheDuck
[03:56]  * Gnea looks oddly at HowardTheDuck 
[03:56] <HowardTheDuck> im curous as to what are some linux programs i can get are thats good
[03:56] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> good to?
[03:56] <skrapasor> Kamus_H_Zwisch: yes like those except as a command after a colon
[03:56] <Dacvak1> Hey, that didn't work.
[03:56] <Gnea> HowardTheDuck: please don't be vague.
[03:56] <Dacvak1> Those folders show up as mounted drives, almost.
[03:56] <Dacvak1> I can't just delete them from my Desktop.
[03:56] <HowardTheDuck> i like downloading programs in windows that are free
[03:56] <HowardTheDuck> where can i get useful little apps
[03:57] <J3ster_> i just want to be able to sort out the "Storage" hdd so i can put it back into my windows 2k3 server and be able to make changes, at present with the linux permissions messing everything up it keeps giving me a permission denied message
[03:57] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> skrapasor: why do you need :?
[03:57] <muxfr> Gnea,  the command listed there for me to add to my alsa config file, is actually for dv4,5 and 7 series,  but I'll try it
[03:57] <Gnea> HowardTheDuck: in the repositories
[03:57] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> skrapasor: if it is to a map, you can use then without :
[03:57] <Gnea> muxfr: yeah, I'm not sure if it's using the same chipset or not, figured it might be worth a shot
[03:57] <p1oooop> hello yyz
[03:57] <Dacvak1> Once again, how do I get these shared folders (which come up as mounted drives) off of my Desktop? http://imgur.com/f1UtN.png
[03:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Dacvak1: I already told you
[03:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> scroll up
[03:58] <skrapasor> Kamus_H_Zwisch: how?
[03:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> skrapasor: just enter it
[03:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> like
[03:58] <Jaha> what are the differences in ubuntu netbook remix and easy peasy?
[03:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> map <F8> hjkl
[03:58] <skrapasor> Kamus_H_Zwisch: oh ok thanks
[03:59] <Dacvak1> Kamus_H_Zwisch: I closed out of Xchat by accident. I tried using Nautilus and it didn't work.
[03:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> skrapasor: you are welcome
[03:59] <p1oooop> Jaha: well.. basically, it's the monu bars
[03:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Dacvak1: alt+f2, gconf-editor
[03:59] <p1oooop> and how the windows integrate into the bard
[03:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Dacvak1: go to apps>nautilus>preferences
[03:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> or something like that
[03:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> I'm in text mode now
[03:59] <skrapasor> Kamus_H_Zwisch: how can i use an argument? like how they have r<char> lets you replace a char
[03:59] <p1oooop> Kamus_H_Zwisch: wow... nice job
[04:00] <Jaha> p1oooop: is one more compatible than the other with a eee pc 900?
[04:00] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> p1oooop: sorry?
[04:00] <Dacvak1> Thank you so much, Kamus.
[04:00] <Dacvak1> Worked great.
[04:00] <p1oooop> Kamus_H_Zwisch: I was congradulating you :D
[04:01] <gartral> whats the difference between autoclean and autoremove?
[04:01] <p1oooop> Jaha: technically, no
[04:01] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> skrapasor: hm. I never tried it. Check #vim, I'm just a normal vim user :)
[04:01] <p1oooop> Jaha: ubuntu netbook remix just consumes less space on your netbook screen
[04:02] <gartral> wow... ubottu crashed
[04:02] <p1oooop> gartral: what were you doing?
[04:03] <p1oooop> gartral: were the keyboard lights blinking?
[04:03] <skrapasor> Kamus_H_Zwisch: yeah im asking them
[04:03] <Jaha> p1oooop: I have the windows 16g series of the netbook think linux will run well enough on it?
[04:03] <bucky> gartral: apt-get remove cleans out /var/cache/apt/archives/   apt-get autoremove   removes orphaned packages from the system that are no longer required
[04:03] <p1oooop> Jaha: you'll be surprised.... most likely YES
[04:04] <bucky> gartral: s/apt-get remove / apt-get clean
[04:04] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> bye bye guys
[04:04] <p1oooop> Jaha: unless it's not i386
[04:04] <Jaha> p1oooop: alright thanks for the help I'll have look into it. I could actually make a "live CD" on a usb flash drive and see how well it runs and what drivers don't work out of the box right?
[04:05] <p1oooop> Jaha: well.... the developers have provided an image specifically for USB drives
[04:05] <p1oooop> Jaha:  I suggest downloading that and the utilty to format a USB drive with the image
[04:06] <p1oooop> Jaha: there should be instructions on the ubuntu website
[04:06] <p1oooop> well, it seems my time is running on end
[04:07] <Jaha> p1oooop: so you definately think i should go with the remix instead of easy peasy?
[04:07] <p1oooop> mmm
[04:07] <p1oooop> way easier to install packages
[04:07] <p1oooop> Jaha:  ^^
[04:09] <enovativ> hello to all....i would like to format my external drive as a NTFS, but I would like to do in linux....
[04:09] <docgnome> trying to set keyboard shortcuts in gnome but the dialog doesn't recognise super as a modifyer key...
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfsprogs | enovativ
[04:11] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: ubottu crashed
[04:11] <stager> is there a free vmware type software linux/ubuntu?
[04:11] <stager> *for
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> enovativ:  ntfsprogs - tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux
[04:11] <Gnea> stager: yeah, it's called virtualbox (sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> stager:  teres a free vmware, ad virtualbox
[04:11] <enovativ> Dr_Willis: thanks, i will look for that....thanks again
[04:11] <gartral> [loop no UBOTTU the chanel bot left
[04:11] <p1oooop2> had to restart and such
[04:12] <sephy> IS there any known program that would allow me to rip music off of myspace? =/
[04:12] <gartral> p1oooop2: UBOTTU the channel bot crashed
[04:12] <p1oooop2> really
[04:12] <p1oooop2> that sucks
[04:12] <stager> thanks very much. Gnea, and Dr_Willis
[04:12] <p1oooop2> !whee
[04:12] <FloodBot3> p1oooop2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <gartral> !ops ubottu crashed
[04:12] <Gnea> lulz
[04:13] <jedc> hah
[04:13] <Pici> gartral: Thanks for the heads up
[04:13] <Gnea> gartral: 22:02 -!- ubottu [n=supybot@ubuntu/bot/ubottu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
[04:13] <Omar87> My bluetooth keeps failing everytime I try to pair with my cellphone. Can anybody help, please?
[04:13] <Gnea> sephy: no, there is not.
[04:14] <sephy> gah, alright.
[04:14] <swathanthran> !firefox
[04:14] <Jaha> what irc clients do yyou all use?
[04:14] <swathanthran> i use erc on emacs
[04:14] <Orksbane> sephy I use audacity to record youtube audio
[04:14] <swathanthran> Jaha: ^
[04:14]  * Gnea uses the only logical client: irssi
[04:14] <stager> pidgin
[04:15] <stager> is there a better one heh?
[04:15] <sephy> Im trying to rip the songs off of myspace.
[04:15] <bucky> Jaha: xchat-gnome
[04:15] <Orksbane> Jaha I use mirc running under wine
[04:15] <Gnea> sephy: isn't that piracy?
[04:15] <bucky> Jaha: irssi
[04:15] <jshriver> How do you set up your audio card to record audio?
[04:15] <jedc> sephy, you might be able to get audacity to record it as you play it or something
[04:15] <swathanthran> ubuntu ships firfox right?
[04:15] <sephy> Nope
[04:15] <Omar87>  Jaha: Pidgin, and sometimes Irssi.
[04:15] <jedc> Jaha, xchat, or weechat for command line
[04:15] <swathanthran> !firefox
[04:15] <jshriver> When I speak into the mic I can hear my voice echo in the speaker, but none of the apps pick it up for recording
[04:15] <Gnea> sephy: how come?
[04:15] <sephy> Ill try it
[04:15] <swathanthran> ,firefox
[04:15] <jedc> swathanthran, yes
[04:15] <rabidweezle> !dvd
[04:15] <sephy> Gnea: because I said :P
[04:15] <swathanthran> okay..
[04:15] <Jaha> I am using x-chat but i have windows on this netbook...for now
[04:15] <jedc> the bot is crashed apparently
[04:15] <Gnea> sephy: LOL
[04:15] <bjangles> how do you change the mac address on the nic?
[04:16] <Jaha> have to decide what distro to put on here instead
[04:16] <Pici> The bot take a bit to sync to all the channels its in, please be patient.
[04:16] <stager> use firefox video dlownload helper  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[04:16] <bjangles> so that the change sticks even on reboots?
[04:16] <Omar87> My bluetooth keeps failing everytime I try to pair with my cellphone. Can anybody help, please?
[04:16] <stager> use firefox addon "video download helper"
[04:16] <gartral> !ubottu is dead
[04:16] <rabidweezle> oh
[04:16] <rabidweezle> :(
[04:16] <jedc> Gnea, he could be recording his own music off of myspace... :p
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> bjangles:  you would have to do some command in rc.local perhaps.. or some other network config.. ive never really seen anyone needed to do that.
[04:16] <Orksbane> Jaha it is hard to beat jaunty jackalope
[04:16] <jshriver> Is there anyway to get rid of pulseaudio and just use alsa?
[04:16] <swathanthran> of all the irc clients said, is there anything that can be used both on X and on CLI??
[04:16] <swathanthran> thats emacs!;-)
[04:16] <rabidweezle> can someone link me to the dvd playback setup page?
[04:17] <rabidweezle> XD
[04:17] <gartral> ubottu just got kicked for flooding.... epic win
[04:17] <Jaha> Orksbane: Come again
[04:17] <swathanthran> gartral: yey!
[04:17] <bjangles> Dr_Willis,thanks
[04:17] <Gnea> jedc: he didn't say he was :)
[04:17] <Omar87> My bluetooth keeps failing everytime I try to pair with my cellphone. Can anybody help, please?
[04:17] <Hilikus> i'm trying to compile a progrma someone wrote but the linker is complaining about unreferenced instances because i didn't specify what libs contained the definitions, but how can i find out which libs contain the needed definitions if there's no documentation?
[04:17] <rabidweezle> ubottu vs. floodbot, floodbot wins
[04:17] <Guest94393> Is there a way to do a virus scan on my windows partitions?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> its alsways amuseing when faq bots start answering each other.
[04:18] <Gnea> Guest94393: yes.
[04:18] <dansan> Question: Does xorg's xserver currently support dual instances with separate HIDs, monitors and sound devices mapped to each?  Alternately: have two people use the same computer at the same time (different keyboards, mice, monitors & sound cards/speakers)
[04:18] <gartral> Guest94393: clamav
[04:18] <p1oooop2> Guest94393: yes
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Guest94393:  yes. theres clamav that can scan windows parittions.
[04:18] <Guest94393> Is there a tutorial somewhere?
[04:18] <p1oooop2> Guest94393: I was going to suggest running a virus removal tool under WINE
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> p1oooop2:  thats doable also.. but proberly not optimal
[04:19] <gartral> !hi
[04:19] <p1oooop2> Guest94393: you mean you didn't google it?
[04:19] <Guest94393> ploooop2, I agree not the best
[04:19] <gartral> !ops ubotu was kicked... again
[04:19] <Gnea> Guest94393: they make a version of clamav for windows. alternatively, you could mount your windows partitions in linux and scan them using clamav that way, too.
[04:19] <jedc> swathanthran, finch is like pidgin for cli i think
[04:19] <jedc> bjangles, ive seen someone doing it with a scheme script using gambit in comp.lang.scheme if you want to search there :p otherwise no idea heh
[04:19] <LinuX2half> Hi, can shiretoko cause conflict with firefox?
[04:19] <p1oooop2> Dr_Willis: mmm... WINE is a bit slower
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  hve had no issues with that here.
[04:19] <Omar87> My bluetooth keeps failing everytime I try to pair with my cellphone. Can anybody help, please?
[04:19] <Pici> gartral: Please don't overuse !ops, we're quite aware that the bot isnt here.
[04:20] <Guest94393> I suspect that there is a virus that is attacking my scanner since it returns zero infected files
[04:20] <p1oooop2> Omar87: what are you running?
[04:20] <bjangles> jedc, I just found a script but I'm not sure how well it will work
[04:20] <gartral> Pici: sorry, just thought you didnt see the 3 kicks for exxessive flooding >.>
[04:20] <swathanthran> jedc: but then its TWO things finch and pidgin.. not the same.. the same emacs instance can be used both on cli and on X!
[04:20] <^Einstein> gah, !ops spam hilights me, please don't.
[04:20] <Omar87> p1oooop: What else? Ubuntu.
[04:20] <dansan> Question (2nd try): Does xorg's xserver currently support dual instances with separate HIDs, monitors and sound devices mapped to each?  Alternate explaination: have two people use the same computer at the same time (different keyboards, mice, monitors & sound cards/speakers).  Anybody please?
[04:20] <Gnea> Pici: how is it an overusage if there's no bot there? :)
[04:20] <bucky> ubottu is tired... he/she needs rest
[04:21] <p1oooop2> bucky: LOLZ
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> dansan:  ive seen where thats doable.. i even recall some special tools for it.. but never done it.
[04:21] <LinuX2half> Dr_Willis. are you saying that I should look somewhere for this issue?
[04:21] <bjangles> jedc, see ~> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1883932&postcount=21
[04:21] <bjangles> think it will work?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  ive never heard of it being an issue .
[04:21] <Omar87> Robots need some love too. :)
[04:21] <p1oooop2> Omar87: hmm, perhaps your bluetooth NIC isn't ubuntu-compatable
[04:21] <dansan> Dr_Willis: Thanks SO much for the response!  Do you remember anything about where you read about it or where I can find more info?
[04:21] <Gnea> !ppa
[04:21] <smacktalk> hi ubottu
[04:21] <p1oooop2> ubottu: !ubuntu
[04:21] <tsimpson> give the bot time
[04:21] <p1oooop2> !ubuntu
[04:22] <Gnea> !botsnack
[04:22] <p1oooop2> what?
[04:22] <tsimpson> Gnea: stop that
[04:22] <Omar87> p1oooop: I'm not sure this is the case.
[04:22] <p1oooop2> does ubottu need to reload
[04:22] <p1oooop2> LOLZ
[04:22] <LinuX2half> Well I thought I've heard that shiretoko will crash if you're a mozilla user.
[04:22] <p1oooop2> thats funny
[04:22] <Gnea> tsimpson: trying to find info on ppa.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  ive had them both running at the same time.. No problems.
[04:22] <p1oooop2> Omar87: you never know...
[04:22] <br34l> what is this all about? sudp apt-get moo
[04:22] <br34l> *o
[04:23] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:23] <p1oooop2> Omar87: what's the brand of the chip inside?
[04:23] <J3ster_> can anyone help me out regarding shell command chmod & chown ? Plz
[04:23] <maco> br34l: apt-get moo is an easter egg
[04:23] <br34l> !w\e
[04:23] <p1oooop2> !apt
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  in what way? Theres dozens of tutorials out covering the ussage of those.
[04:23] <p1oooop2> !wine
[04:23] <Darael> br34l: aptitude moo && aptitude -v moo && aptitude -vv moo etc
[04:23] <J3ster_> i hi have already read the man pages but too no help
[04:23] <J3ster_> i just want to be able to sort out the "Storage" hdd so i can put it back into my windows 2k3 server and be able to make changes, at present with the linux permissions messing everything up it keeps giving me a permission denied message
[04:24] <pambrocio> how do you determine max file limits
[04:24] <Darael> J3ster_: certainly... what seems to be the issue?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  you do  not use chmod and chown on 'ntfs' filesystems.. if that is what you are trying.
[04:24] <LinuX2half> Well I install shiretoko with my default firefox together, so currently I can only open up the shiretoko browser.
[04:24] <shovon> pambrocio: Could you elaborate?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  so what filesystem is the storage drive?
[04:25] <p1oooop2> pambrocio: what filesystem?
[04:25] <LinuX2half> I update my firefox to shiretoko 3.5 pre
[04:25] <Omar87> p1oooop: is there a way to revive the bluetooth program other than rebooting?
[04:25] <pambrocio> i need to know the command to determine the max open file limits
[04:25] <gartral> !bluetooth
[04:25] <br34l> lol allright
[04:25] <pambrocio> using ext3
[04:25] <p1oooop2> Omar87: I bet there is, I dont know
[04:25] <bucky> Darael J3ster_ windows file owner/group is different than linux
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  I dident 'update' anything.. I just installed teh firefox3.5 packatge and run it via the shirtoko icon, and firefox via the firefox icon.
[04:25] <J3ster_> my media folder with a ls -l looks like this -
[04:25] <J3ster_> drwx------ 9 craig root 32768 1970-01-01 12:00 BACK-UP DRV
[04:25] <J3ster_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root   999     6 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom -> cdrom0
[04:25] <J3ster_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root   999  4096 2009-03-15 18:19 cdrom0
[04:25] <J3ster_> drwxrwxrwx 1 root  root 16384 2009-08-14 17:09 Storage
[04:25] <FloodBot3> J3ster_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <J3ster_> i just want to be able to sort out the "Storage" hdd so i can put it back into my windows 2k3 server and be able to make changes, at present with the linux permissions messing everything up it keeps giving me a permission denied message
[04:26] <p1oooop2> Omar87: probably something like sudo /etc/init.d/(whatever) restart
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  those are permissions of mount points.. not files on the  filesystem.   so far i see nothing to 'fix'
[04:26] <Gnea> tsimpson: since you're clearly so good at this, perhaps you can tell me why the package key for the ppa.launchpad.net website isn't up on the page like it says it's supposed to be here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware#Adding the PPA's key to Ubuntu
[04:26] <bucky> pambrocio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  if you want your USER to have access to a ntfs filesystem. You must mount it with the proper options.
[04:26] <bucky> pambrocio: some editors have a problem opening a file that big
[04:27] <Darael> bucky: I know; I thought that it might be something where these were relevant, but I reread the problem and I see that Windows is involved.
[04:27] <p1oooop2> pambrocio: hm? max open file limit?
[04:27] <tsimpson> Gnea: the key is PPA specific, look on the PPA page
[04:27] <docgnome> kay so I'm trying to set up my compose key to work like it used to. compse key + u u used to produce the u with the two dots above it but now it produces this thing ŭ
[04:27] <tsimpson> Gnea: more help in #launchpa
[04:27] <p1oooop2> pambrocio: probably your RAM + SWAP or something like that
[04:27] <tsimpson> Gnea: * #launchpad
[04:27] <shovon> Anyone familiar with ATi Radeon HD 4350?
[04:27] <shovon> I need help installing drivers for it.
[04:27] <Gnea> tsimpson: I did. It's not there.
[04:27] <J3ster_> it did work fine between both OS's till i tried to share the drive using linux, from that moment on when placed back into the windows box it is available to view, run but no modify
[04:27] <Gnea> tsimpson: thanks
[04:28] <shovon> Either open source or proprietary; I really don't care.
[04:28] <Xerran1> shovon: I have two 4800 series cards in my place
[04:28] <shovon> Sweet!
[04:28] <Xerran1> shovon: I have the Ctalyst 9.7's installe don both
[04:28] <CaptainCrook> Error: cannot open display: :0.0 <--- ???whats this for?
[04:28] <Xerran1> installed on both
[04:28] <p1oooop2> shovon: I dont think proprietart is supported in jaunty
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> CaptainCrook:  you are either starting an GUI app incorrectly, or have done somthing to confuse/mess up the DISPLAY setting.
[04:29] <Xerran1> shovon: i have no experience with the open source drivers, i hear they are much slower
[04:29] <shovon> Xerran1: it works fine right?
[04:29] <pambrocio>  i just freshly installed ubuntu i remebered that i had to set something to increase the open file limit for my eclipse installation to run with out any glitches
[04:29] <FloridaGuy> anyone have a canon pixma ip2600 printer working? in ubuntu
[04:29] <Xerran1> shovon: yes
[04:29] <shovon> Xerran1: But now the problem is, I want to install it offline.
[04:29] <pambrocio> just need the command to dtermine the current open file limit for these machine
[04:30] <shovon> Xerran1: using the installer from the ATI site.
[04:30] <p1oooop2> pambrocio: ahh, yes... SWAP
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> FloridaGuy:  check http://cups.org to see how well that is supported.
[04:30] <FloridaGuy> k
[04:30] <J3ster_> Dr_Willis - to share it i needed to use root, what happened when i did that was it changed the owner
[04:30] <p1oooop2> !swap | pambrocio
[04:30] <pambrocio> tnx
[04:30] <p1oooop2> I think that should help you
[04:30] <tonsofpcs> how do i force fsck on reboot?
[04:30] <jedc> LinuX2half, you cant run firefox-3.0?
[04:30] <jedc> LinuX2half, try alt + f2, then firefox-3.0
[04:30] <bucky> pambrocio: you mean this http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/tasks/tasks-88.htm
[04:31] <jedc> LinuX2half, if that works you can right click on the applications menu, then edit menus, and add firefox-3.0 as a menu item
[04:31] <Xerran1> shovon: Download the latest Catalyst package, sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-7-x86.x86_64.run...Finally, reboot the computer and type "fglrxinfo" in terminal top check if it is installed correctly
[04:31] <tonsofpcs> [pre-mount fsck, etc]
[04:31] <p1oooop2> tonsofpcs: run the kernel in recovery mode
[04:31] <jedc> pambrocio, i dont think there is a limit on open files
[04:31] <pambrocio> yup
[04:31] <Xerran1> shovon: i have the package on usb key
[04:31] <pambrocio> thats it jedc
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  you can set up samba to share a ntfs filesystem (IS it ntfs?) but you must mount the NTFS with the proper options to allow non-root users to access it.
[04:31] <p1oooop2> actually.... there kind of is
[04:31] <p1oooop2> if you have very little RAM and no SWAP that is
[04:32] <pambrocio> jedc: need the command to determine the current limit for this machine
[04:32] <smacktalk> what's the best way to get vnc wrking between two ubuntu systems?
[04:32] <docgnome> kay so I'm trying to set up my compose key to work like it used to. compse key + u u used to produce the u with the two dots above it but now it produces this thing ŭ
[04:32] <skato4554> hola
[04:32] <CaptainCrook> Dr_Willis, what about this one? Aug 14 23:31:50.492 [warn] Command-line option 'firefox-3.5' with no value. Failing.
[04:32] <Xerran1> hwy
[04:32] <Xerran1> hey
[04:32] <p1oooop2> smacktalk: pulseaudio, perferably
[04:32] <bastidrazor> tonsofpcs, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[04:33] <pambrocio> i think there was an article that stated the default open file limit is 1024
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> CaptainCrook:  no idea.
[04:33] <skato4554> xerran q onda
[04:33] <p1oooop2> !pulseaudio | smacktalk
[04:33] <J3ster_> Dr_Willis - Im not interested in sharing anymore, i just want to remove any permission that linux put on that NTFS drive so that it can be useful again.
[04:33] <Xerran1> skato4554: I don't speak spanish mate :P
[04:33] <p1oooop2> smacktalk: basically, it can transfer audio from one machine to another
[04:33] <skato4554> ok
[04:34] <migg137> where can i find drivers for my toshiba laptops little touch sesitive buttons? thanks
[04:34] <Xerran1> Hola and a few curse words are all i know
[04:34] <glicks> hi excuse me, does anyone know why occasionally for seemingly no reason my mouse scroll wheel stop scrolling fire fox up and down and instead magnifies the screen when i scroll?
[04:34] <p1oooop2> skato4554: sorry, only english here :D
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> J3ster_:  linux diident put one there.. You MUST mount the ntfs drive with the proper options.  you dont set permissions with chmod/chown, you MUST mount it properly.  example fstab line for my windows drive -->    /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[04:34] <skato4554> =O
[04:34] <glicks> i dont know why it does that or how i get out of it so i had to reboot several times
[04:34] <skato4554> =(
[04:34] <jedc> pambrocio, sorry, i dont know it, i didnt even know there was a limit
[04:34] <gartral> migg137: thats HID stuff, you might find it in keyboards under system>preferences
[04:35] <migg137> gclicks, maybe your super (or windows) key is pressed down
[04:35] <LinuX2half> jedc, I just update my firefox so it can be a single browser,
[04:35] <p1oooop2> glicks: I think you might of pressed a button accidentally
[04:35] <p1oooop2> glicks: I agree with ming137
[04:35] <p1oooop2> *migg137
[04:35] <glicks> p1oooop2, how to get get rid of that mode
[04:35] <LinuX2half> jedc are you saying that firefox 3.0 still exist, meaning its not being overwritten?
[04:35] <smacktalk> pulse audio?  I need to get vnc working..Virtual Network Computer
[04:36] <p1oooop2> glicks: you need to configure compiz
[04:36] <smacktalk> virtual network computing
[04:36] <smacktalk> like rdp
[04:36] <p1oooop2> glicks: there's a util in the softwares
[04:36] <Darael> !vnc | smacktalk
[04:36] <glicks> i see
[04:36] <p1oooop2> welll guys, it seems I have to go
[04:36] <bucky> pambrocio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=903015   <- this one?
[04:36] <p1oooop2> later
[04:37] <jedc> LinuX2half, yes, it shouldnt be, it is a different package
[04:37] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Im thinking LinuX2half  did some weird things to his firefox.
[04:37] <Xerran1> I'm totally in love with Evolution Mail...the simplest install from backup ever and it kicks the pants off anything i have used in windows.
[04:37] <pambrocio> yup thats the one now i just need the console command to see if it works
[04:38] <pambrocio> ahh got tnx for the help guys it ulimit
[04:38] <pambrocio> thanks again
[04:39] <lancerocke> im missing a bunch of keys for my 'sources' i have  a list of them. is there any way i can create a 'key file' instead of adding all of them manually?
[04:39] <LinuX2half> I'm just happens to update my browser using update manager and the browser combined, I thought its overwritten
[04:39] <jedc> pambrocio, cool, says unlimited for me
[04:40] <LinuX2half> I added the source and add the keys so I can update the security updates
[04:40] <pambrocio> i think its ulimit -n to determine the max open files
[04:40] <br34l> *pheew* just uninstalled all compiz packages, hoping that solved the freeze reason
[04:41] <shovon> Is anyone familiar with a Linksys USB Wireless Adapter?
[04:41] <Xerran1> br34l: compiz seems really unstable to me
[04:41] <dragon> what's the best Video editor for Ubuntu?
[04:41] <Xerran1> kdenlive
[04:41] <megamanx1978_> Does anyone know much about cedega?
[04:42] <Xerran1> dragon: kdenlive
[04:42] <Darael> !best | dragon
[04:42] <jedc> LinuX2half, try typing firefox-3.0 into a terminal, if it launches then you have both
[04:42] <pambrocio> tnx again it woks
[04:42] <shovon> Cinelerra
[04:42] <shovon> dragon: Cinelerra
[04:42] <sagaci> !cedega | megaman1978
[04:42] <pambrocio> works
[04:42] <dragon> Darael: that really helps :|
[04:42] <LinuX2half> the problem is when I'm loading a video it stop loading or the site started to get all slow.
[04:42] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[04:42] <dragon> Xerran1, shovon: thanks
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> dragon:  claify your needs perhaps.
[04:43] <Darael> dragon: well, if you really want an opinion, I agree with shovon
[04:43] <lancerocke> im missing a bunch of keys for my 'sources' i have  a list of them. is there any way i can create a 'key file' instead of adding all of them manually?
[04:43] <br34l> Xerran1, i think it really is for me ^^
[04:43] <br34l> *bad
[04:43] <LinuX2half> jedc, I typed in firefox-3.0 and a shiretoko browser pops up
[04:43] <Xerran1> br34l: looking at it in wiki now
[04:44] <shovon> dragon: yeah, what ubottu said.
[04:44] <shovon> dragon: no problem.
[04:44] <Xerran1> br34l: This is only my second week in sticking it to BILL :P
[04:45] <dragon> Dr_Willis: I wish to combine 4-5 videos sequentially, and then cut it at different positions and end up with a format reasonable for youtube or streaming otherwise.
[04:45] <shovon> Is anyone familiar with a Linksys USB wireless adapter?
[04:45] <LinuX2half> jedc so does it mean that firefox is mixed with shiretoko?
[04:45] <megamanx1978_> Does anyone know if cedega uses direct x10 yet and if not then when?
[04:45] <br34l> Xerran1 xD
[04:45] <sagaci> LinuX2half: same thing except different branding
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  check the cedega homepage perhaps?
[04:45] <Xerran1> br34l: so Cinelerra is better than kdenlive?
[04:46] <megamanx1978_> I did
[04:46] <megamanx1978_> It dont say
[04:46] <shovon> br24l: some people might hate Cinelerra.
[04:46] <Xerran1> br34l: It looks more professional
[04:46] <shovon> br24l: Just give them both a try.
[04:46] <ctmjr> shovon: linksys usb300n
[04:46] <TDJACR> I changed my password the other day. GDM no longer works, and I need to use startx. I also need to unlock my kering on every login. I changed my pass back, no difference. Any ideas? I really want gdm working again
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  i would guess thats a NO then.
[04:47] <LinuX2half> So basically I have one browser but with a different branding?
[04:47] <br34l> Xerran1 actually, i dont know..im just using gnome
[04:47] <shovon> ctmjr: works flawlessly?
[04:47] <routinepursuit> So I have a fujitsu lifebook p1510d bluetooth shows in dmesg but not in hciscan. Any ideas?
[04:47] <ctmjr> shovon: only with ndiswrapper
[04:47] <gartral> routinepursuit: is there a switch on the machine?\
[04:47] <dragon> Here's more about my original question: I wish to combine 4-5 videos sequentially, and then cut it at different positions and end up with a format reasonable for youtube or streaming otherwise. What will be the best video editor to accomplish this task?
[04:47] <megamanx1978_> I also tried the cedega channel but it is dead
[04:47] <Xerran1> br34l: I meant Celerra looks more professional than kdenlive
[04:47] <leachim6> yo
[04:47] <ziroday> LinuX2half: firefox and shiretoko are completely different.
[04:47] <Xerran1> *cinelerra
[04:47] <leachim6> how can I find out how many bytes-per-inode a partition has?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  you might want to totally remove both and reinstall them.
[04:48] <Darael> LinuX2half: Not exactly... you have two versions of one browser, with eack version having different branding
[04:48] <routinepursuit> yes controls wifi and rf  but no love
[04:48] <leachim6> ziroday: no they're not...
[04:48] <leachim6> ziroday: they are the exact same browser, shiretoki is the codname for firefox 3.5
[04:48] <megamanx1978_> Which is faster ubuntu+cedega or win xp?
[04:48] <Darael> ziroday: What do you mean? Shiretoko was the development codename for firefox 3.5
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:   the normal ubuntu way is to have the 2 totally seperate.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  depends on the game.
[04:48] <leachim6> megamanx1978_: native XP will ALWAYS be faster
[04:48] <ziroday> leachim6: sorry I thought he was referring to something else
[04:49] <leachim6> ziroday: haha, don't be sorry :)
[04:49] <Darael> megamanx1978_: It also depends on the computer and the state of the XP install :P
[04:49] <leachim6> ziroday: happens to the best of us
[04:49] <leachim6> Darael: good point
[04:49] <leachim6> let's assume we're talking about a fresh install
[04:49] <gartral> megamanx1978_: ubuntu+wine 1.1.27
[04:49] <leachim6> definitely XP
[04:49] <Darael> leachim6: Indeed
[04:49] <leachim6> so anyway, how can I find out how many bytes-per-inode a paritition has?
[04:50] <migg137> anyway to boost up my volume... i notice ity was a bit louder in my other os (windows)? thankyou
[04:50] <TDJACR> I changed my password the other day. GDM no longer works, and I need to use startx. I also need to unlock my kering on every login. I changed my pass back, no difference. Any ideas? I really want gdm working again
[04:51] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[04:51] <gartral> TDJACR: what method did you use to change your password?
[04:51] <megamanx1978_> I was guessing ubuntu+cedega becouse of windows bloat but I was just curious
[04:51] <LinuX2half> so, should I uninstall shiretoko or firefox?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  it totally depends on the game.
[04:52] <LinuX2half> will this cause any problems with they both installed together?
[04:52] <TDJACR> I forget if it was passwd or About Me in GNOME
[04:52] <leachim6> LinuX2half: well shiretoko is the one in the ubuntu repos...
[04:52] <TDJACR> gartral: ^
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  i would remove both and start from ground zero.  If you can even manage to remove both.
[04:52] <leachim6> why does ubuntu do it like this...
[04:52] <leachim6> it's so confusing
[04:52] <gartral> TDJACR: try rebooting into recovery mode and setting your password with sudo passwd <username> <password>
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> leachim6:  they kept the 2 seperate so people are not forced to upgrade to 3.5 I run both at the same time with no problems.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> leachim6:  would you rather them not even bother to have 3.5 in the repos at all?
[04:53] <megamanx1978_> How about ubuntu+cedega vs Vista same thing?
[04:54] <gartral> Dr_Willis: i find that 3.5 is faster than 3.0.12 everyday for every task given
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  with wine the speeds/comaptibilty of the games.. depends very very much on the exact game.
[04:54] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: I have both.  However, I use both too. :3
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  i cant tell the differance.    :)
[04:54] <gartral> Dr_Willis: heh, my system is a "special" child
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  i got the google chrome for linux - being tested out now..
[04:55] <leachim6> Dr_Willis: haha, that's not what I mean, I think that way is good...I mean not having official firefox 3.5, but "shiretoko" instead
[04:55] <leachim6> Dr_Willis: it breaks facebook chat because of the useragent
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> leachim6:  theres other disrtos that did it the same way. I have no issues with it using the name Shiretoko.
[04:55] <LinuX2half> So after I've remove both of the browsers I run update manager or just install firefox/shiretoko again?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> leachim6:  facebook works here.. we were just testing it in  anothe channel.
[04:55] <TDJACR> gartral: Didn't work
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> leachim6:  and thats facebook being badly programmed.
[04:55] <bjangles> how do I permanently change my ethernet MAC address in Ubuntu?
[04:55] <gartral> TDJACR: log in, backup, reinstall
[04:56] <bjangles> I found a thread in the forum but the instructions are defunct
[04:56] <leachim6> Dr_Willis: agreed, and I fixed it as well, with a workaround
[04:56] <megamanx1978_> What things should I look for in a game to decide which to use
[04:56] <AJ1> does anybody know how to use ext3grep?
[04:56] <leachim6> come on
[04:56] <bjangles> most of the commands don't work and a lot of the config files it references have changed
[04:56] <leachim6> can nobody help me with this simple request?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> bjangles:  its just an ifconfig command..   toss the command in rc.local perhaps.
[04:56] <leachim6> how do I find out how many inodes per block a paritition has
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/09/how-to-change-mac-address-of-your.html
[04:56] <pheonix> #kde
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> megamanx1978_: Dual boot or start playing linux-based games.
[04:57] <pheonix> join #kde
[04:57] <LinuX2half> Dr_Willis, should I remove or completely remove them?
[04:57] <Darael> pheonix: try "/join #kde"
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> megamanx1978_: Speaking of games, I think I should play Yo Frankie.  I downloaded it few days ago but never got around to play it. :0
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  i would totally remove  them. :)
[04:57] <pheonix> yep
[04:57] <pheonix> got it
[04:57] <CaptainCrook> anyway to cancel a terminal command that is running
[04:57] <CaptainCrook> ?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> CaptainCrook:  ctrl-c ?
[04:58] <CaptainCrook> ok
[04:58] <gartral> leaf-sheep: it barely runs on my 2.2 ghz C2D with 8400 gfx card and 3 gigs ram
[04:58] <zeltak> anyone know if midnight commander has an irc channel? i cant find one with googling
[04:58] <megamanx1978_> And yes I know cedega is based off wine but isnt there a few things that makes cedega work different?]
[04:59] <gartral> zeltak: midnight commander is a file manager
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  mosta ll the games i try work fine with wine. I dont use cedega any more
[04:59] <zeltak> yeah i know :) i was wondering if they had an irc channle (like #ubuntu)
[04:59] <LinuX2half> Dr_Willis so should I install the 3.5.3 shiretoko or firefox-3.0?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  i wouldent even bother with 3.5 unless you need it.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  3.0 is the default/normal one to use.. so install it first - check that it works.
[05:01] <Darael> LinuX2half: You'll get 3.5 with Karmic in October anyway.  Probably.
[05:01] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: I have both.  It does not bother me.  It's useful having two browsers to keep things separate (eg, work and play) or whatever your reason is.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Darael:  i think thats a defianatly
[05:01] <megamanx1978_> Are there any linux games as good or close to as good as the windows games?
[05:01] <leaf-sheep> !info firefox karmic
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  depends on the games you are refering to.
[05:02] <Darael> Dr_Willis, leaf-sheep: well, that settles that then!
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> i really like urban terror, beyond that though, i don't game
[05:02] <Pete6> hey all
[05:02] <LinuX2half> Dr_Willis so should I install a different browser?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  check out http://en.djl-linux.org/   its a gpl-steam-like front end to get quite a few games easially
[05:02] <jeffrey_> ubuntu has this awsome ability to mount an ssh server as a drive, but my question is howdo I accomplish this through the terminal?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> LinuX2half:  i would install the default firefox that comes with ubuntu.. and make sure its working.
[05:03] <migg137> how do i install Gtkmozembed? my screenlets manager tells me i need it
[05:03] <Pete6> Hey can i ask q's here? or is that spaming here?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> jeffrey_:  the 'sshfs' command i think
[05:03] <megamanx1978_> By as good I mean graphics and gameplay depth
[05:03] <leaf-sheep> !sshfs | jeffrey_
[05:03] <megamanx1978_> Ty for the link
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  both those are vage and subjective terms. :)
[05:03] <jeffrey_> Dr_Willis, leaf-sheep, Thanks!!
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> Pete6: Just bomb away the questions.
[05:04] <Pete6> All i wanna no is that I have desktop effects any step by step thing to look at anywhre?
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> !ccsm | Pete6
[05:05] <megamanx1978_> And as far as windows games go I mean games like Spore and Sims 3
[05:05] <pheonix> can i ask questions related to kde in this channel
[05:05] <Darael> Pete6: system->preferences->a[[earance
[05:06] <Darael> ^^ignore!
[05:06] <Darael> pheonix: you'd be better off in #kubuntu really...
[05:06] <leaf-sheep> pheonix: #kubuntu would be best solution -- but yeah you can ask here too.
[05:06] <pheonix> ok
[05:06] <megamanx1978_> Dr Willis does the games in that link have deb packages?
[05:07] <LinuX2half> But the update manager will bug me about updating my manager to 3.5
[05:07] <Pete6> Sure butttt "desktop effects could not be enabled "......
[05:07] <LinuX2half> I mean the browser
[05:07] <Pete6> and under hardware drivers i got nothing..zip..
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  some do some dont. that tool does not use the package manager system - it isntalls the game on a per user basis. so some of the games are newer/up to date then the ones inthe repos
[05:07] <soreau> Pete6: Pastebin the output of 'compiz-manager' from your terminal
[05:07] <migg137> pete6, i had that error in one of my old desktops... i believe your graphics card is not supported by the advanced effects
[05:07] <soreau> ! paste | Pete6
[05:08] <Ivoz> can anyone tell me a ballpark figure on how much space a standard ubuntu installation takes up?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  'widelands' is  a popular game right now. sort of a slow paced RTS game
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Ivoz:  under 2gb.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Ivoz:  definatly under 5gb. :)
[05:09] <megamanx1978_> I dont have to compile or do complicated command line stuff do I?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  for what?
[05:09] <Darael> Ivoz, Dr_Willis: I believe the recommended requirement is 4GiB, so it'll be less than that.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/  has some good reviews
[05:09] <Pete6> Im waaaaaaaaaay 2 noob for this stuff lol sry for wasting your time
[05:09] <pheonix> i just wanted to know how to change desktop wallpaper in kubuntu
[05:10] <LinuX2half> There seem to be an extension missing from my browser
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Pete6:  gott get video card drivers going to get 3d effect..  you dont need 3d to learn the os. :)
[05:10] <oldude67> pheonix, right click on desktop and go to preferences
[05:10] <LinuX2half> I remember its ubuntu -somthing
[05:10] <Ivoz> When 9.10 comes out, the desktop cd will just be able to upgrade my installation, right?
[05:10] <LinuX2half> I think its called ubuntu modification
[05:10] <Pete6> right how do i get the drivers ...where and stuff...
[05:10] <oldude67> phoenixz, desktop settings sorry
[05:10] <Pete6> and junk
[05:11] <pheonix> i went there but was unable to understand the settings
[05:11] <pheonix> what should be the wallpaper type
[05:11] <Darael> Pete6: system->adminstration->harware drivers?
[05:11] <oldude67> down at the bottom it should say get new wallpapers click on it.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis>  apt-cache search firefox | grep ubuntu
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> firefox-ubuntu-it-menu - Firefox extension for a quick browse of Ubuntu-it community
[05:12] <Pete6> dareal ya its empty blank ...now what?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Pete6:  whats your video card?
[05:12] <megamanx1978_> For DJL
[05:13] <pheonix> oldude67: r u there?
[05:13] <Pete6> there somthnig i can type in termanial to determan
[05:13] <routinepursuit> Anyone have a Fujitsu lifebook P1510D?
[05:13] <oldude67> pheonix, yeah
[05:13] <bastidrazor> Pete6, lspci | grep VGA
[05:13] <raydarluvr> AH! I cant get my Ubuntu machine to connect to my Windows home workgroup. Help!
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> megamanx1978_:  it pays to talk in full/compleete sentances. :)   I have a hard time rembering my own name.. much less following fraggmented conversation. DJL installs the game.. makes it idiot proof (more or less) on a per user basis. try it and see.
[05:14] <oldude67> pheonix, under desktop settings at the bottom is a box you can click on and it will take you to kde wallpapers that you can download and use.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  you did chane the work group in /etc/samba/smb.conf to be the workgroup you need to connect to?
[05:14] <carnavour> ver
[05:14] <jshriver> Greetings again
[05:14] <pheonix> oldude67: ok
[05:14] <oldude67> pheonix, find it?
[05:15] <raydarluvr> Dr._Willis, I'm a n00b and dont really knbow how to do that in Ubuntu
[05:15] <jshriver> Has anyone here succesfully record sound using a Mic or line in under ubuntu?
[05:15] <psi-jack> Curious. does Ubuntu 8.04 LTS have backports from 9.04 or later, stable?
[05:15] <detrix> How do I get ubutnu to upgrade firefox from 3.0 to 3.5??
[05:15] <jshriver> I'm kinda shocked at how frustrating it is to do something so simple, and I've been using linux since '96
[05:15] <jshriver> detrix: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  edit as root the /etc/samba/smb.conf file - ner the top it defines the default work group. Im not sure this is needed.. but i always do it to prevent any quirks
[05:16] <jeffrey_> you guys are awsome, sshfs worked perfectly for what I needed :D
[05:16] <megamanx1978_> I am trying to install djl
[05:16] <jshriver> or just grab a copy from the website and manually install
[05:16] <detrix> jshriver: thanx
[05:16] <mac_v> !ffe3 | detrix
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  also using the gnome file manager - give it the full path to the share the first time.
[05:16] <Pete6> intel corp 82845G/gl (that it?
[05:16] <mac_v> !ff35 | detrix
[05:16] <docgnome> anyone have any idea how to bump up the size of japanese fonts in ubuntu?
[05:16] <jrib> jshriver: unmute the appropriate input devices in sound mixer in the panel/ alsamixer in the terminal then select the appropriate input in gnome-sound-recorder or whatever
[05:16] <pheonix> oldude67: i got that and installed one wallpaper but it has not changed my desktop wallpaper
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  ie --> smb://servername/sharename/
[05:17] <jshriver> I think a big problem I'm having is pulseaidio
[05:17] <detrix> mac_v: thanx to you to
[05:17] <jshriver> alsamixer just lists 1 thing PulseAudio "mater"
[05:17] <jshriver> er master
[05:17] <oldude67> pheonix, you have to click on the drop down arrow by the wallpaper it is using and change it to the one you installed.
[05:17] <Ivoz> does ubuntu live cd have any software to do a hard disk image backup?
[05:17] <pheonix> oldude67: got it
[05:18] <LinuX2half> Thanks for the help, bye
[05:18] <oldude67> pheonix, cool
[05:18] <psi-jack> Ivoz: You mean, like dd? I believe so.
[05:18] <pheonix> oldude67: thanks
[05:18] <jshriver> Ivoz: yup dd over a ssh tunnel
[05:18] <dragon> is cinelerra not available through the Ubuntu repositories?
[05:18] <jrib> jshriver: try alsamixer -c 0
[05:18] <jshriver> Ivoz: this is what I use
[05:18] <jshriver> dd if=/dev/hda bs=8M count=128 | ssh account@second.box.com dd of=/dev/hda bs=8M
[05:18] <Ivoz> jshriver, just locally onto another hdd, and sorry, dd?
[05:18] <psi-jack> Does Ubuntu 8.04 LTS have backports from 9.04 or later, stable?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> dragon:  dosent look like it.
[05:18] <raydarluvr> ???
[05:18] <jshriver> remove count and you can change bs to anything or leave it out
[05:19] <Pete6> So is that card info good enough for effects? Intel corp 82845G\GL
[05:19] <Darael> dragon: No - you need to add its repository, but the website provides a package that will do that for you.
[05:19] <dragon> Darael: alright, thanks
[05:19] <jshriver> jrib thanks
[05:19] <Hilikus> how can i search for a particular pattern of files but with more than one pattern. i want to find *.a and *.so. i tried find -iname but it doesn't take more than one pattern afaik
[05:19] <Ivoz> Hilikus, | ?
[05:19] <jshriver> Ivoz : then dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/targetdrive/disk.img
[05:19] <jrib> Hilikus: search /where/?
[05:19] <Hilikus> no, i tried that
[05:20] <Hilikus> Ivoz: ^
[05:20] <Hilikus> search? never heard of that. i'll try it
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> regular expressions have some sort of 'or' syntax.. but i dont rember it off hand for find.
[05:20] <jshriver> if is the drive you want to copy, of= points to where ever you want the image to be saved
[05:20] <jrib> Hilikus: no, where are you searching
[05:20] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: i think its | but i don't think find -iname takes a regexp
[05:20] <jshriver> or if you want to copy 1 drive to another same size drive then "dd if=/dev/source of=/dev/target"
[05:21] <Pete6> Ok to simplfy my prob...I dont think i have the proper drivers..infact in my hardware drivers window..i have nothing at all
[05:21] <Hilikus> jrib, does it matter?? /usr/lib/ but that's not relevant. i want to find more than one pattern
[05:21] <Pete6> i want effects..where can i download drivers
[05:21] <raydarluvr> Dr. Willis I have no idea how to do what yuou are saying
[05:21] <FireFly10> Hi people I suddenly find that I can't unlock my taskbar. Is there anyway to fix that?
[05:21] <psi-jack> Oy... Will no one answer about Ubuntu 8.04?
[05:21] <Hilikus> i tried ls -R but it doesn't really recurse
[05:21] <jrib> Hilikus: yes, since there may be a better way.  Anyway, probably easier to just use -o (see man page)
[05:22] <mac_v> FireFly10: did you check in gconf
[05:22] <FireFly10> mac_v: new to this
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  try http://www.softpanorama.org/Tools/Find/find_mini_tutorial.shtml   they mention quoteint the regular exporession and some --regexp option
[05:22] <FireFly10> mac_v: can you explain?
[05:22] <mac_v> FireFly10: ok... in terminal > enter "gconf-editor"
[05:23] <FireFly10> ok
[05:23] <Joe_> l
[05:23] <mac_v> FireFly10: without the quotes
[05:23] <FireFly10> command not found
[05:23] <psi-jack> Ubuntu 8.04 IS LTS meaning Long-Term-Support, riiiight? ;)
[05:23] <Darael> FireFly10: try alt+clicking and dragging it.
[05:23] <oldude67> Pete6, what version of ubuntu are you running 9.04?
[05:23] <Darael> psi-jack: yup
[05:24] <jrib> Hilikus: if you really want to use -regex then you have to end up escaping parentheses and pipes... looks ugly
[05:24] <jshriver> jrib: still no luck.  Everthing is unmuted. I tried using line-in and Mic . When using the mic input I can hear my voice over the speakers. But nothing records.
[05:24] <FireFly10> Darael: not working
[05:24] <psi-jack> Okay then. Does LTS also mean it will be kept reasonably more up-to-date with backports for newer software, or more just for bug fixes in existing software?
[05:24] <jrib> jshriver: fwiw I use "capture 1" on one machine
[05:24] <Hilikus> jrib:  :S thats true
[05:24] <zeltak> hi. when you add your own words to aspell (IE "add environment to dictionary option when right clicking) where is it stored? how do you back that up on a comp upgrade?
[05:24] <jshriver> jrib: sorry dont understand? what is capture 1
[05:25] <jrib> Hilikus: you can probably mess with regextype but yeah -o is easier
[05:25] <mac_v> FireFly10:  gconf-editor               < this should work
[05:25] <jrib> jshriver: the input device I select
[05:25] <Darael> psi-jack: LTS means it'll get security and stability updates for 3 years on desktop and 5 on server, no more than that.  i.e no new versions of stuff, really.
[05:25] <FireFly10> mac_v: command not found
[05:25] <jshriver> jrib: from gnome-sound-recorder?  the input just says Capture, doesn't let me pic anything else like alsa or pulseaudio
[05:25] <ctmjr> Hilikus: your trying to find every file ending in .so and .a ?
[05:25] <Hilikus> ctmjr: yes
[05:25] <psi-jack> Darael: I see.. Well then.. For desktop, not really too much worth using then, is it? heh
[05:26] <Hilikus> jrib: i'll try -o
[05:26] <Darael> psi-jack: though enabling the -backports repository would change some of that.
[05:26] <FireFly10> is there a simple file to check?
[05:26] <ctmjr> Hilikus: try this locate *.so *.a
[05:26] <FireFly10> or a simple way to unlock it
[05:26] <Hilikus> i dont want to use locate
[05:26] <Immo_Phagg> Herro
[05:26] <psi-jack> Darael: Ahhh, so there are backports, just not official?
[05:26] <FireFly10> where dose kde keep file related to kicker
[05:26] <Darael> psi-jack: In a large business environment, where stabiliy is key, then LTS releases are worth it on the deskop.
[05:27] <Immo_Phagg> Who wants to go see District 9?
[05:27] <FireFly10> can I use a dcop command?
[05:27] <mac_v> FireFly10: that is the command , to check the file , it should work , you are using Ubuntu right?, check the command ,
[05:27] <Darael> psi-jack: they're official, just... different.  It's complicated.
[05:27] <Hilikus> jrib: awesome -o did it
[05:27] <Hilikus> thanks jrib
[05:27] <FireFly10> its kubuntu with all gnome items removed
[05:27] <psi-jack> Darael: Heh.
[05:27] <Darael> !backports | psi-jack
[05:27] <mac_v> FireFly10: try #kubuntu for help
[05:28] <FireFly10> I did
[05:28] <Immo_Phagg> Is it true that ubuntu was invented by South Africans?
[05:28] <FireFly10> Mark Shepard I think
[05:28] <psi-jack> Yeah, right now, I'm dealing with no X, because I had a wonderful ext3 filesystem corruption issue, and X won't even start anymore because it can't find the basics of fonts, fixed.
[05:28] <mac_v> !ot | Immo_Phagg
[05:28] <Darael> Immo_Phagg, FireFly10: Mark shuttleworth, actually
[05:28] <Immo_Phagg> South African, yes?
[05:28] <FireFly10> psi-jack: user JFS it rocks
[05:28] <bucky> Immo_Phagg: yes.. in District 9
[05:29] <FireFly10> Darael: that's the one
[05:29] <psi-jack> FireFly10: No thanks, I'll go XFS before JFS.
[05:29] <FireFly10> ok
[05:29] <FireFly10> ok well thanks, sort of
[05:29] <raydarluvr> Dr_Willis: raydarluvr:  ie --> smb://servername/sharename/  <[05:29] <psi-jack> FireFly10: I had corruption issues with JFS REAL quick\.
[05:29] <jshriver> any other pointers, still not recording even though I can hear my mic on my speaker
[05:29] <Immo_Phagg> Are there any ops in here?
[05:29] <jshriver> and everything is unmuted
[05:30] <Ivoz> if i have a hdd with 125gb free, and i want to resize to give say 30gb for a linux installation, is there any chance the repartitioning could corrupt it?
[05:30] <Hilikus> Ivoz: yes
[05:30] <jshriver> Ivoz: yes, but gparted is pretty stable.  But still possible
[05:30] <Ivoz> Hilikus, know what sort of chance?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  you enter that in your gnome file manager address bar.. same as you would in the windows address bar in its file manager
[05:30] <mac_v> !ask | Immo_Phagg
[05:30] <user101> what should I do for this error ?  /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found
[05:30] <jrib> jshriver: don't know then, check bugs.ubuntu.com for hints with your card
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  where it says 'location'
[05:31] <Hilikus> Ivoz: it has never happened to me, but it might happen. if the power goes out in the middle or something
[05:31] <raydarluvr> Dr_Willis, I did but it could not resolve it.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  perhaps hit the little notepad icon thats  there?
[05:31] <jshriver> Ivoz: if the drive is windows, I would defrag it to make sure the data is all clumped together, then use gparted in Ubuntu live to resize the free space.
[05:31] <NemesisD> hi all. i recently abandoned emerald, i ran gtk-window-decorator --replace. it seems to be loading most of my gtk themes fine except the window border != the window border shown in the appearance prefs, just some funky blue border instead
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  ahh. that sounds like a deeper issue then.
[05:31] <Hilikus> Ivoz: just backup whatever you need badly, chances are nothing will happen
[05:31] <TheLinuxMoron> can anyone help me find out why my sound is gone?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> !find findsmb
[05:31] <Ivoz> I've defragged it pretty heavily I tihnk
[05:32] <psi-jack> Darael: One of the reasons I was asking about 8.04 is because I'm planning to use eBox, or at least, try it out on several of my servers, and see how well it works out for my needs with my servers, interlinked with my desktop.
[05:32] <raydarluvr> Could not display "smb://servername/sharename/".  <-- what I get
[05:32] <psi-jack> Darael: And I dunno if eBox has ebox-desktop for 9.04
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  you may want to install the smbclient package and see if the 'findsmb' command even sees your network/shares/workgroups
[05:32] <Hilikus> Ivoz: still, you should have backups even if you don't repartition.
[05:32] <Hilikus> if you don't have anything THAT important, go ahead, gparted is pretty stable
[05:32] <Ivoz> ok
[05:33] <Hilikus> i would say 99% chances nothing will happen
[05:33] <Hilikus> but the thing is if something happens don't blame us
[05:33] <raydarluvr> I think I have the SMBCLIENT installed. How do I run findsmb?  I know I'm a pain in the arse
[05:33] <Hilikus> there IS a chance, wheather you take it or not is your call
[05:33] <Ivoz> might go and copy the 100gb of stuff on here... -_-
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  open a terminal type 'findsmb'
[05:34] <raydarluvr> That easy huh?
[05:34] <TheLinuxMoron> anyone?
[05:34] <raydarluvr> :)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  'learn, think, do, enjoy'
[05:34] <GavinMcG> Hi all! I've managed to get Xubuntu (Jaunty) working for me pretty well on a home server. I copied my iTunes Music Folder files directly to /home/other_user/music, and am using Subsonic to serve them. I've noticed that I have some files that I'd like to clean up. They are all named "._SONGNAMEHERE" and are in the same directory as their respective songs. Is there a way to delete each of these files starting with ._ in each subdirectory 
[05:35] <TheLinuxMoron> Can anyone help me figure out why my sound is gone?
[05:35] <NemesisD> ok update: if i do metacity --replace, the windows look fine but no compiz effects
[05:35] <raydarluvr> I get...
[05:35] <raydarluvr>                                 *=DMB
[05:35] <raydarluvr>                                 +=LMB
[05:35] <raydarluvr> IP ADDR         NETBIOS NAME     WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION
[05:35] <raydarluvr> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
[05:35] <FloodBot3> raydarluvr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> NemesisD:  that makes sence since that command disables compiz.
[05:35] <NemesisD> Dr_Willis: why does gtk-window-decorator not use gtk's window borders?
[05:35] <mac_v> GavinMcG: #xubuntu for xubuntu help
[05:35] <oldude67> !pastebin | raydarluvr
[05:36] <paissad-hp> hi
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> NemesisD:  no idea.   i always install  fusion-icon and let it handle the changeing of the manager/decorators.
[05:36] <GavinMcG> mac_v: I have a hard time believing the issue is that specific.
[05:36] <Ivoz> paissad-hp: HI!
[05:36] <paissad-hp> everytime i reboot my laptop, the level for the volume Master is at 0, mute
[05:36] <paissad-hp> how can i change that ?
[05:36] <paissad-hp> thanks in advan,ce
[05:36] <NemesisD> Dr_Willis: i stil have compizconfig on here, would that interfere with it?
[05:37] <loyx> hello
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> NemesisD:  if you turn off compiz with metacity --replace then compiz isent running..
[05:37] <toothdecay> Hi all, just would like to see what you guys do as far as playing movie files in browser. I'm using totem at the moment, but just tried VLC's mozilla plugin with no luck. Is this broken for anyone else?
[05:37] <NemesisD> Dr_Willis: i mean to get fusion-icon
[05:37] <TheLinuxMoron> dr_willis: would you know perhaps what i can check to see why I lost sound to ubuntu?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> NemesisD: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, run fusion-icon
[05:37] <mac_v> GavinMcG: there is no app in Ubuntu called Subsonic
[05:37] <loyx> toothdecay: isn't there an mplayer plugin that accomplishes that sort of thing?
[05:37] <NemesisD> k trying that now
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> TheLinuxMoron:  No idea on sound. Ive not had to troubleshoot sound in ages
[05:38] <GavinMcG> Quick question: I need to delete files whose names match a pattern (specifically, starting with ._) from all subdirectories of a specified directory. Is there a quick way to do that?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> GavinMcG:  use of the 'find' command and its -exec option normally.
[05:38] <GavinMcG> mac_v: No, but my question had little to do with that except for contextualizing.
[05:38] <toothdecay> loyx, yes I tried that one also, but it crashes firefox everytime I try and load up a video
[05:38] <GavinMcG> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll take a look
[05:38] <TheLinuxMoron> dr_willis: yeah it was fine and I booted up today and nothing.. I check control on sound and it seems fine.. could it be a nvidia issue I wonder?
[05:38] <raydarluvr> Dr_Willis, here's what I get when I run findsmb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253497/
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  so in short.. its finding nothing. :) youdont even have samba running on the local machine
[05:39] <raydarluvr> I though Samba was running  ?????
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  the samba service is not installed by default.
[05:40] <Dday> When is Ubuntu goign to update firefox to 3.5?
[05:40] <user101> what should I do for this error ?  /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Dday:  its allredy in the repos..  it will hbe default ion the next release.
[05:40] <ubuntu> Hi everyone, I installed "Radeon HD 4850 (1GB)(3DDR)" on my "Media center 2005". I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. The driver installation was 100% done. I activated the driver from"Hardware Drivers" then reboot. when I tried to activated "Visual effects " I got this message  " Desktop effects could not be enabled"!! Can anyone help me??  Thank you.
[05:40] <firecrotch> !ff35
[05:40] <Dday> Dr Willis how do i update my 3.0 to 3.5?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Dday:  see the factoid the bot gave.. You just install ff3.5 and keep both .
[05:41] <docgnome> anyone know to make japanese fonts anti-alias? they don't appear to be
[05:41] <Darael> ubuntu: you'll need to reboot for the driver to start working.
[05:41] <raydarluvr> Dr. Willis, I have the File Folder Ssharing Service (Samba) Running.  Not same thing?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  no idea.   try making  empty dirctory on yoru desktop and shareing it.
[05:42] <ubuntu> Darael thank you. I did reboot 3 times, but no luck.
[05:42] <bthompson> received this error when trying to sync /var/www
[05:43] <bthompson> rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1524) [generator=3.0.5]
[05:43] <psi-jack> Okay.. So, I have a gigabit switch and gigabit NIC, but my switch is showing only 100mbit connection, not 1000mbit. Is there something I need to be doing to get it to go up to 1000?
[05:43] <ctmjr> ubuntu: run this in a terminal fglrxinfo then after that glxinfo | grep render
[05:44] <loyx>  i've been having a major problem with wine and I've been trying to get it to work on 3 different distros, but the result is the same: I get lots of black flashes, delay, and usually prints this error: "err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winecfg.exe" failed, status c0000094
[05:44] <loyx> " this error seems to be a problem with alsa. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:46] <neil_d> I have a new install of Ubuntu.. but the sound recording isn't working :(  I can play sound though :)
[05:46] <loyx> did you try oss
[05:46] <raydarluvr> <== is hosed.
[05:46] <docgnome> anyone? japanese? ugly fonts?
[05:47] <raydarluvr> <== figures he'll have to go back to winders
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  or send dome time learning linux basics and the ubuntu training book/guide.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> !training | raydarluvr
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  i canjust enter the path to my windows server here.   could be some odd issue on the lan.
[05:48] <ubuntu> Thank you ctmjr, this what i got: 1) sudo fglrxinfo= display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:48] <ubuntu> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:48] <ubuntu> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4850
[05:48] <ubuntu> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1.8673) 2) glxinfo | grep render =direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[05:48] <ubuntu> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4850
[05:48] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <raydarluvr> I had all my peers in the workgroup seeing each other at one time, but I cant get it back
[05:49] <raydarluvr> I dont have a domain.  So server doesnt apply to me
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  with samba - somt times its best to just go read the 'using samba-doc' and learn all the ins and outs of it. and stop relying on  layers of front-ends and  'user friendly added layers'
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  i just use it for a home lan here.
[05:50] <raydarluvr> There are user friendly added layers? Docs?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  this is linux.. theres more docs then you can shake a flashdrive at.
[05:51] <Darael> raydarluvr: in samba on a workgroup, server means the machine hosting the share... but I guess you got that.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  thers like 3 BOOKS on samba in the 'samba-doc' package..
[05:51] <raydarluvr> ::::looking for samba docs::::
[05:51] <neil_d> I have a new install of Ubuntu.. but the sound recording isn't working :(  I can play sound though :) can anyone help?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  i normally install the samba server on my linux box', enable the home shares.. set the workgroup.. and then it all works. :) takes me all of 5 min perhaps...
[05:52] <ctmjr> ubuntu: add this to the bottom of /etx/X11/xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/m4ae7de3d
[05:52] <raydarluvr> Dr. W...  I wish  knew how to do all that
[05:53] <docgnome> hrm.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  one step at a time and learn the basics/fundamentals..  you edit  /etc/samba/smb.conf as root user using a text editor.. 'gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf'
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> raydarluvr:  if thats total 'voodoo' to you - well its time to learn linux basics first. :)
[05:54] <raydarluvr> I've been forced in to emersion. BAsics and setting this up at same time.  ACK!
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> editing a text based config file - is class1, hour 1 linux  info. :)
[05:55] <ctmjr> ubuntu: then restart X or log out then back in
[05:55] <raydarluvr> Where are the samba-doc books at?
[05:55] <GavinMcG> Dr_Willis: Thanks, it worked. Used `sudo find [path] -depth -name [pattern] -delete`
[05:55] <MrAlexandro> i might have gotten this wrong, but can i install ubuntu on a SD card 4 to 8 gb of size and expect a fast stable performance?
[05:56] <heo> How can I replace a match "WORD" in all files of a dir-tree?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> MrAlexandro:  you could - but ive not seen many machines that can boot from a SD card. and  it will put a bit of wear on the sd card.  It willbe slower then on HD also..
[05:56] <firecrotch> MrAlexandro: performance will largely depend on your SD card reader
[05:57] <MrAlexandro> firecrotch aha:D thought so!
[05:57] <MrAlexandro> cause i only have a standard integrated one
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> heo:  ive seen the 'gres' script  used for replacement in files befor. (learned it from this book/url) --> http://books.google.com/books?id=m4ZzElQZxcoC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=gres+awk+script&source=bl&ots=ZPS6qNi5kT&sig=fqC4BXz_2IumKtWMQdI_y2D8d5A&hl=en&ei=LUCGSpnUL4yOMc7tiNwL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=gres%20awk%20script&f=false
[05:58] <dehqan> good day every body,how can an app be uinstalled with removing it's package in var/cache/archive ?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> dhendrix:    clarify what you mean.
[05:59] <firecrotch> dehqan: apt-get purge packagename   will COMPLETELY remove a package, including its config files
[05:59] <di||itante> dehqan: dpkg --purge packagename
[05:59] <Darael> dehqan:
[05:59] <client05> AIA.....
[06:00] <client05> BLEH KNALAN GA
[06:00] <Darael> dehqan: the package in the cache remains by defaule, you have to purge it or clear the cache for it to go.
[06:01] <MrAlexandro> firecrotch but will i be able to launch that sd on most new computers? lets say i make the installation and create two parittion on the sd card, will that be a pocket installation? cause drivers are already well integrated in the ubuntu release. do you understand my quesiton?
[06:01] <ubuntu> ctmjr, should i use: /etc/init.d/restart x
[06:01] <Wiseman> Can anyone help me get Half Life 2 up and running?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> MrAlexandro:  SD card readers can be rather -- problematic...  on wome machines
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Wiseman
[06:02] <MrAlexandro> Dr_Willis but it is faster than usb right?
[06:02] <Wiseman> Dr_Willis: been there.  no help.
[06:02] <ctmjr> ubuntu: try it see if it works
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> MrAlexandro:  never noticed..   My USB disrto's are quite speedy.. but they alsu use the sysetm ram  as much as they can. a 'normal' installto a sd card may be slower in fact then a usb type 'live cd' type install
[06:03] <MrAlexandro> hmmm, ok
[06:03] <MrAlexandro> i dont know why, but i love testing and finding out about different ways of installing os
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> MrAlexandro:  i have several laptops with built in sd readers.. and none can boot from them.
[06:03] <MrAlexandro> oh
[06:04] <dehqan> Darael: in synaptic there is 2 choice remove anda remove completely what is the diffrenece ?
[06:04] <MrAlexandro> Dr_Willis i already have ubuntu slackware vista and xp in quad boot so i do not need a second ubuntu:D
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> 'competely remove' = purge all settings.
[06:04] <raydarluvr> Thanks Dr. Willias for your attemp to help. Too n00b for the room I am I guess
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> MrAlexandro:  you proberly dont need what you got either...
[06:05] <MrAlexandro> Dr_Willis no but it was fun to set it up with my lack of knowledge
[06:05] <heo> Dr_Willis: Thank  you.
[06:05] <Darael> dehqan: remove completely will purge its config files and remove it from the package cache as well as uninstalling it.
[06:05] <dehqan> thanks have good life bye
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> dehqan:  note that removing a program (even with purge) - will NOT remove the users settings.
[06:07] <grilld> I upgraded to business internet through comcast and am having trouble configuring my 3 desktops to have both internal and external static ip's
[06:07] <grilld> can anyone msg me and help?
[06:09] <di||itante> grilld: why do you want that
[06:09] <spirosl> hi everyone
[06:09] <spO> what package program will allow me to download all the files off a launchpad directory?
[06:09] <grilld> so i can point my domain to the specific ip's
[06:09] <spirosl> I've just recently installed ubuntu and let me say that it's fantastic!
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if you can figure out the ftp server/path they are using . you could use wget
[06:10] <grilld> and 1 of my machines will be a web server
[06:10] <di||itante> grilld: do you have 3 static public ips from your isp?
[06:10] <grilld> 5 actually
[06:10] <Fox> anyone know a good cheap place to host a small business website?
[06:10] <grilld> i have all the settings
[06:10] <grilld> just need to know what files to edit
[06:10] <spirosl> i reinstalled windows VISTA and then UBUNTU on a dual boot scenario and if i can get ubunto working correctly then I'll bugger off Windows all together
[06:10] <di||itante> then you should only have one ip per box
[06:10] <toothdecay> what linux fps's are the most active out interest?
[06:10] <di||itante> not 2
[06:11] <grilld> so i don't need to configure an internal ip as well?
[06:11] <di||itante> no
[06:11] <grilld> editing /etc/network/interface?
[06:11] <di||itante> grilld:
[06:11] <di||itante> however, I hope you are using a firewall
[06:11] <grilld> yes
[06:11] <di||itante> ok
[06:11] <spirosl> so can i ask you guys , how can i determine if all of my devices on my laptop have been detected correctly
[06:12] <spirosl> and do you prefer rythmic or amarok as a music player
[06:12] <di||itante> so each bos will get a different ip that your isp gave you... they will all be on the same sub net and have the same default gateway
[06:12] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i want to try the fish shell.  i'd like to make it the default for one terminal and have bash the default for another.  is that possible?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> toothdecay:  savage2 is fairly active last i tried it.. then theres several based on the  GPL'd quake engines
[06:12] <grilld> yes
[06:12] <grilld> can you query me please di||itante
[06:12] <di||itante> grilld: youre set then
[06:12] <spO> i cannot install karmic package from launchpad  on a jaunty system ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> toothdecay:  http://en.djl-linux.org/?q=node/20   has a list of popular games also.
[06:13] <di||itante> ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> spO:  mixing release packages - is nota good idea
[06:13] <Fox> Anyone know a good cheap place to host a small business website?
[06:13] <spO> how do i download all the files,  the dsc and the tar files from a launchpad release site?
[06:13] <toothdecay> Dr_Willis, thanks! I'll check this out, savage2 looks interesting!
[06:13] <spirosl> anyonw know about how X / GNOME initialise on UBUNTU..
[06:14] <spirosl> the only thing i found wrong with it
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> toothdecay:  that one is comercial. but it has like a 2 hr demo thing..   Theres other free FPS out.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> toothdecay:  i suck at all of them  :)
[06:14] <spirosl> is that when it initialises for a split second i can see some graphics on the screen that are only a few pixels in length
[06:14] <spirosl> and then the logo is brought up
[06:14] <spirosl> im wondering if there is a way i can make it initialise properly
[06:14] <toothdecay> Dr_Willis, haha I'm not expecting to do to well myself!
[06:14] <spO> git clone https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/sabnzbdplus/0.4.11-1ubuntu1   does not download all the packages
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> spirosl:  the video card  is intiilzing you mean and you see a little  bit of gfx junk?
[06:15] <bazhang> spO, that's not supported here, and is a really bad idea
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> spirosl:  if thats your biggest problem..  count yourself lucky. :)
[06:16] <spirosl> Dr_Willis, yes ... is there a way to resolve it?
[06:16] <moonlight> i need help seting dual screen in my pc
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> spirosl:  no idea. Im not to worried about seeing the card 'initilize'
[06:16] <spirosl> i'm guessing there are other compatibility issues but i'd like to log them and fix them one at a time
[06:16] <sikhst0rm> Does an easy way exist for a newbie to install kubuntu dualboot with vista on raid 0 setup? (winvista already installed)
[06:16] <Murphy> hi
[06:16] <bazhang> !xrandr | moonlight
[06:16] <Cerrdor> Error: Breaks exisiting package 'flashplugin-installer' conflict: flashplayer-mozilla ( )
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> spirosl:  its a driver  thing most likely.. so will depend on the driver/card/driver version/kernel version..
[06:16] <Darael> sikhst0rm: look at Wubi
[06:16] <spO> i am trying to install the current version of sabnzbd, but i forgot how to do it
[06:16] <Cerrdor> how can I remove the mozilla
[06:17] <Murphy> i have a question..
[06:17] <Darael> ubottu: tell sikhst0rm about wubi
[06:17] <sikhst0rm> roger
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> WUBI wont work with windows on a RAID i think.
[06:17] <Immo_Phagg> Berzerker!!!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <spirosl> Dr_Willis, all i know is that i've instaled 9.04 and it seems to be working fine with my video card... so you think i should now go through all of my hardward and use the recommended drivers from each manufacturer.. my laptop is a HP laptop.
[06:17] <Darael> Dr_Willis: oh.
[06:17] <spirosl> Im also used 2.6 i believe
[06:18] <Murphy> i want to change from linux Mint to ubuntu, and i made the best experiences with elyssa(which is basing on 8.04)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> spirosl:  i see such artifacts every so often  then they vanish next driver releaee, and perhaps come back..  its  not worth loseing sleep over.
[06:18] <sikhst0rm> u sure Dr_Willis
[06:18] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, keep it on topic
[06:18] <Murphy> what do you mean? is it the same with ubuntu=
[06:18] <Murphy> ?
[06:18] <Immo_Phagg> Where is Berzerker
[06:18] <Berzerker> bazhang, can you ban Immo_Phagg please.
[06:18] <Berzerker> he's been nagging me for a while.
[06:18] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, No idea, not the problem of this channel
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> sikhst0rm:  i think i saw this mentioned yesterday in here abotu wubi and raid..  i personally NEVER use or reccommend using wubi.
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> No I have not Berzerker
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> I need you to hear me out
[06:19] <spirosl> Dr_Willis, OK.. so what's my next plan... what should i do now? aside from using this great OS? should i go through each device to make sure its found and using the correct driver
[06:19] <Berzerker> whatever it is, I don't care.
[06:19] <bazhang> Berzerker, join #ubuntu-ops please
[06:19] <Murphy> ah, forget it..
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> Unban me from ##mac before my mac explodes
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> I need mac os assistance
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> Don't be so heartless
[06:19] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, stop with the offtopic
[06:19] <Immo_Phagg> Ok
[06:20] <sikhst0rm> Dr_Willis so wat shud i do?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> sikhst0rm:  if you want to test out ubuntu. use it in virtualbox.
[06:20] <spirosl> virtualbox is fantastic in Windows and on Ubuntu
[06:20] <sikhst0rm> i want to kinda use it but have it on dualboot and i dont nkow much about raid setups but mines is raid 0 (got it like this when i first bought it)
[06:20] <spirosl> best alternative to VMWare and VirtualPC
[06:20] <binMonkey> is it possible to have different default shells on two different terminals?
[06:21] <di||itante> binMonkey: not with the same user, but you can with different users
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:   'default' shells are set on a per user basis..but you can launch termianls with differnt shels via the comman dlineif you wanted
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> alias xterm-csh 'xterm -e csh'   (i think)
[06:22] <spO> the version of sabnzbd that is currently installed is an outdated one
[06:22] <spirosl> sikhst0rm, Raid 0 is one drive isn't it maximum space?
[06:22] <docgnome> Anyone using urxvt? I'm trying to set the font that it uses for japanese text and having no luck
[06:22] <loyx> has anyone here ever tried linux unified kernel?
[06:22] <binMonkey> Dr_Willis: thanks.  does that command have a man page?
[06:22] <spO> why for does jaunty have an outdated sabnzbd?
[06:22] <bazhang> spO, ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:  what command?
[06:22] <moonlight> ubottu: i get this mesg Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1024x768 +0+768, DFP-0: 1024x768 @1024x768 +0+0' (Mode 1024x1536, id: 51) on X screen 0.
[06:23] <spirosl> bazhang, what do you mean by rolling release?
[06:23] <binMonkey> Dr_Willis:  dlineif
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:  you could set up gnome-terminal with different  configs also.
[06:23] <bazhang> spirosl, things dont get added when they are updated immediately
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:  reread what i said without the typos.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> command line IF you wanted
[06:23] <spirosl> bazhang, can you add the 'testing' source like you do in debian?
[06:23] <Darael> spirosl: each release gets only security and stability updates - no major version changes.
[06:23] <spirosl> i see
[06:23] <binMonkey> Dr_Willis: ooooh.  thanks.
[06:24] <spO> i don't know why for i have to use outdated software
[06:24] <bucky> binMonkey: type sh   and see which shell that give you
[06:24] <spirosl> thanks for your explanations
[06:24] <bazhang> spirosl, there are backports, proposed and PPA
[06:24] <spirosl> I'm come from a heavy windows background
[06:24] <sikhst0rm> spirosl it is..
[06:24] <bazhang> spirosl, but those are at your own risk
[06:24] <spirosl> and I'm starting to use linux / ubuntu to increase my skills for the corporate sector
[06:24] <sikhst0rm> spirosl it uses 2 drives as one for max space no backup
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:  check out gnome-terminals session feature also.
[06:25] <Xerran1> spirosl: that makes two of us but were doing the right thing and sticking it to BILL :P
[06:25] <pepee> hi
[06:25] <spirosl> sikhst0rm, anyway of resizing existing partition?
[06:25] <pepee> i can't start firefox 3.5
[06:25] <di||itante> binMonkey: whats your goal?
[06:25] <spirosl> hah
[06:25] <pepee> it says "The application has been updated but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run."
[06:25] <bazhang> pepee, from the apps menu, or the terminal
[06:25] <bazhang> pepee, how did you install firefox 3.5
[06:25] <binMonkey> dillitante:  i read about the fish shell and i'd like to try it.  but i'd like to have bash available at the same time.
[06:26] <spirosl> I was going to start with CentOS (which would have been better in my current circumstance) but I found ubuntu fantastic!
[06:26]  * Dr_Willis wonders if this is anotehr case of a user some how 'upgrading' their FF3.0 to FF3.5 some how...
[06:26] <adrian__> hello
[06:26] <pepee> but sqlite3 (v 3.6.10-1ubuntu0.2) is installed
[06:26] <pepee> bazhang, aptitude
[06:26] <adrian__> how can i check what type of terminal i am using at the moment?
[06:26] <adrian__> on linux
[06:26] <bucky> binMonkey: make a program launcher on your desktop and have it open which ever shell you want
[06:26] <bazhang> adrian__, on ubuntu?
[06:26] <di||itante> binMonkey: Ok, so when you want to use fish, just run it, or make it your default and run bash as you like
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> adrian__: echo $TERM   you mean?
[06:27] <aaron_> Hey anyone in here run ubuntu amd 64 version?
[06:27] <pepee> sqlite3 --version        3.5.9
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> aaron_:  yes. a great many people use 64bit ubuntu
[06:27] <adrian__>  Dr_Willi: yes, that is it
[06:27] <adrian__> Dr_Willis: thanks a lot
[06:27] <aaron_> i'm having problems using the java plugins for firefox
[06:27] <bucky> binMonkey: drag the icon from the menus for terminal and right click on it to make it launch which ever shell you want
[06:27] <binMonkey> dillitante:  i'd have to chsh every time, though, right?
[06:27] <spO> what version are you guys using of sabnzbd?  are you guys using 0.4.9 or 0.4.11 ?
[06:28] <aaron_> it gives me this error
[06:28] <aaron_> This game cannot be played using your current settings. Please, try the following:
[06:28] <aaron_>     * Check to make sure that java is enabled in your browser. (learn more)
[06:28] <aaron_>     * If you do not have java installed you may download it here.
[06:28] <aaron_>     * To learn more about java support for browsers, visit our help pages.
[06:28] <FloodBot3> aaron_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> binMonkey:  you can easially set up gnome-terminalto have a different 'session' for each shell you wish to try
[06:28] <binMonkey> Dr_Willis: thanks.  i'm trying to find that option right now.
[06:28] <binMonkey> bucky: thanks.
[06:29] <aaron_> any help
[06:29] <bazhang> spO, sabanzbdplus? 0.4.9 for jaunty
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> aaron_:  you did install java?
[06:29] <spirosl> do you guys know of any tool / applet which i can use to log the amount of WAN traffic on my network so I can keep track of my network usage?
[06:29] <aaron_> yes i did
[06:29] <pepee> :(
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> aaron_:  i normally 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' to get java and more..  HOW did you install it?
[06:30] <bucky> binMonkey: TIMTOWTDI  like Dr_Willis says you can go into Edit->Profiles on gnome terminal and set up different profiles
[06:30] <pepee> i renamed ~/.mozilla
[06:30] <bazhang> spirosl, track and shape? there is trickle
[06:30] <spirosl_> do you guys know of any tool / applet which i can use to log the amount of WAN traffic on my network so I can keep track of my network usage?
[06:30] <spirosl_> i did a silly thing and clicked on my mobile broadband connection again which tried to reestablish the connection :
[06:30] <spirosl_> :(
[06:31] <di||itante> spirosl_: I use my router for this, I have many machines so the only way is really the router
[06:31] <Berzerker> spirosl_, add the system monitor applet, right click it > preferences > then check network
[06:31] <di||itante> Berzerker: but thats lan and wan
[06:31] <spO> can we make a package so that i can run karmic packages on jaunty system?
[06:31] <Berzerker> di||itante, ok?
[06:31] <spirosl_> Berzerker, where do i find the applet?
[06:32] <binMonkey> bucky: IGOT IT!!!  thanks for the help, guys.
[06:32] <spirosl_> found it
[06:32] <di||itante> Berzerker: I think he wants to track wan usage presumably to make sure he wont exceed some cap
[06:32] <spirosl_> yes correct
[06:32] <binMonkey> bucky: what is timtowtdi?
[06:32] <bucky> spO  sure.. build a new deb from the karmic source, dsc and diff files
[06:32] <bucky> spO  it's called a back port
[06:32] <di||itante> spirosl_: then the net applet will not give you an accurate reading
[06:33] <bucky> binMonkey: There Is More Than One Way To Do It
[06:33] <Cerrdor> Berzerker, for the new flashplayer.DEB pkg you need to uninstall flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree
[06:33] <Cerrdor> incase anyone else comes in with the same issue
[06:34] <Berzerker> ok
[06:34] <Berzerker> thanks
[06:34] <Cerrdor> but now mozilla is goin good again
[06:34] <Cerrdor> thanks for all the heelp
[06:34] <Berzerker> anyone use xchat here?
[06:35] <bazhang> Berzerker, yes
[06:35] <di||itante> Berzerker: a little
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> I'd previously set up several folders to be shared with my laptop...can someone remind me what configuration file on the server lists what folders to share?
[06:35] <Berzerker> bazhang, any way to disable the tabs for the networks?
[06:35] <web5|org|ua> where is partitioning ? can't find it !
[06:35] <neil_d> trying to get the microphone going... can anyone help?
[06:35] <Berzerker> bazhang, so that alt+number works for only the channels
[06:36] <di||itante> Geoffrey2: did u use nfs or samba
[06:36] <Darael> web5|org|ua: Gparted? it's under system->administration on a live CD, but will need installing on a full install.
[06:37] <Geoffrey2> nfs
[06:37] <bazhang> Berzerker, in prefs channel switcher? not sure as I dont use tabs with xchat
[06:37] <bucky> Berzerker: put your cursor over the border next to the chat window until the cursor becomes a <-> and push it over
[06:37] <di||itante> Geoffrey2: look at /etc/exports
[06:37] <Berzerker> bucky, uh. what?
[06:37] <emanux> is there a GUI for brasero?
[06:38] <Berzerker> web5|org|ua, sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:38] <Darael> emanux: yup.
[06:38] <Geoffrey2> di||itante, there it is, thanks :)
[06:38] <bucky> Berzerker: put your cursor over the border next to the chat window until the cursor becomes a <-> push down on the left mouse button and push it over... like drag and drop
[06:38] <Berzerker> web5|org|ua, then it's under Administration
[06:38] <web5|org|ua> Darael: aha, thnx
[06:38] <spO> i think jaunty is too outdated to be "cool"
[06:38] <Berzerker> bucky, I don't think you understood my question lol
[06:38] <binMonkey> bucky: i went one better.  i set one launcher with --command fish and the other normal and now it's EXACTLY how i wanted it.  thanks!
[06:38] <Berzerker> bazhang, what do you use?
[06:38] <web5|org|ua> Berzerker: thnx
[06:38] <bucky> Berzerker: you want to get rid of your channel pane?
[06:38] <spO> i would like to use karmic, but it won't install correctly
[06:38] <Berzerker> bucky, no I want to get rid of the network tabs
[06:39] <Berzerker> bucky, so that only the channels appear
[06:39] <emanux> Darael: i mean just like nero?
[06:39] <bazhang> spO, #ubuntu+1 for karmic help/discussion
[06:39] <bucky> Berzerker: what's a network tab?
[06:39] <Berzerker> bucky, like it says "Freenode" and gives messages about it
[06:39] <Berzerker> bucky, it acts like a channel
[06:39] <bazhang> Berzerker, not sure how that is done, xchat docs or a visit to #xchat perhaps
[06:40] <Darael> emanux: I don't know; never used Nero.  I'm sure there's a Brasero GUI under applications->accessories or maybe sound+ideo.
[06:40] <Berzerker> bazhang, yeah I'm there asking. they're kinda dead though lol
[06:40] <bucky> Berzerker:  you have tabs like firefox?
[06:40] <tcpip_mrb> quick question if I download ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso, will I get WUBI installer with it?
[06:40] <skyler_> how do i change my default audio player, it was movie player, but i got potamus, and i only want to use movie player for movies so i can listen to music at the same time
[06:40] <Berzerker> bucky, no but similar.
[06:40] <Immo_Phagg> Berzerker
[06:40] <Darael> tcpip_mrb: yup.
[06:41] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, stop it
[06:41] <Berzerker> tcpip_mrb, you should, but why not just install it from boot?
[06:41] <Berzerker> bazhang, ignore ftw.
[06:41] <bucky> Berzerker: that's in jaunty?
[06:41] <Immo_Phagg> What did I do
[06:41] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, you're offtopic
[06:41] <Immo_Phagg> All I said was Berzerker that's not offtopic
[06:42] <Darael> Immo_Phagg: but you're going OT now, aren't you?
[06:42] <Berzerker> bucky, yeah
[06:42] <tcpip_mrb> thanks Darael Berzerker : I dont like partitioning
[06:42] <bazhang> Immo_Phagg, you have a support question? ask the whole channel dont target one user
[06:42] <Immo_Phagg> ok
[06:42] <leaf-sheep> Berzerker: I don't think that's possible since all channels are connected to the "Freenode" server.  That's just me.  Don't hold me on it though, but I'm very certain.
[06:42] <bucky> Berzerker: i don't have tabs
[06:43] <Berzerker> leaf-sheep, the way Linkinus on OS X does it is hide the tabs but shows server messages when they come in in the current open channel
[06:44] <bucky> Berzerker: is it a tab or a window pane
[06:44] <di||itante> Berzerker: does not seem to be possible in Xchat. I use irssi and that does what you want. I can tab through channels only and they may be on numerous servers
[06:44] <leaf-sheep> Berzerker: Check the XChat scripts or ask in #xchat.  I think this is trivial matter... Customizing to your likings, but then again, I do the same thing... customizing to my likings. ;)
[06:44] <Berzerker> brb
[06:44] <spirosl_> OK all
[06:44] <spirosl_> thanks for your help!
[06:45] <spirosl_> I'm off now so I'll catch up with you later! Enjoy spirosl
[06:45] <Berzerker> it works!
[06:46] <emanux_> Darael: when i open brasero, it open nautilus browser
[06:46] <di||itante> Berzerker: how did you do it
[06:46] <binMonkey> thanks for the help, guys.  have a good night.
[06:46] <Bearshare> Hello
[06:46] <emanux_> i want some GUI that show the size of all files to be brun
[06:46] <bazhang> Bearshare, hi
[06:46] <Berzerker> di||itante, Preferences > channel switcher > uncheck "open extra tab for server messages"
[06:46] <Bearshare> how are you
[06:47] <Berzerker> although it kinda sucks.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> emanux_:  i tend to use k3b for my burning needs
[06:47] <Bearshare> What is this room, #you_have_got_to_be_kidding
[06:47] <di||itante> Berzerker: so now you dont see any server tabs, only channel tabs?
[06:47] <bazhang> emanux_, k3b is great for that
[06:47] <emanux_> ok, im using ubuntu :)
[06:47] <bazhang> Bearshare, ask in #freenode NOT here
[06:47] <Berzerker> di||itante, yeah but it's kinda half-assed. it combined the server tab with the first channel lol
[06:47] <emanux_> i mean gnome
[06:48] <emanux_> i know is great
[06:48] <bazhang> emanux_, thats okay k3b runs great in gnome
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Berzerker:  actually i think the msgs go to whatever channel you are in.
[06:48] <emanux_> really?
[06:48] <di||itante> Berzerker: hmmm, so youre getting server messages in the channel
[06:48] <bazhang> emanux_, of course
[06:48] <emanux_> so i can install k3b in gnome?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> emanux_:  yes.. trivial
[06:48] <Berzerker> di||itante, yeah
[06:48] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install k3b emanux_
[06:48] <Berzerker> Dr_Willis, possibly. someone version me and test it
[06:49] <emanux_> trivial? means hard to install?
[06:49] <di||itante> Berzerker: thats not so bad if the server is quiet
[06:49] <Berzerker> yeah
[06:49] <bazhang> trivial = super easy
[06:49] <Kittykis> k3b is wonderful
[06:49] <Berzerker> it does do it in the channel you're in
[06:49] <di||itante> Berzerker: Have you sued irssi
[06:49] <emanux_> ah ok will try to install
[06:49] <di||itante> used
[06:49] <Bearshare> I have an eee-pc running Ubuntu and I want to know how to get my webcam and mic working with it?
[06:49] <Berzerker> di||itante, irssi? like terminal based? no thanks lol
[06:49] <Bearshare> mind you they are built in
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Berzerker:  i perfer WeeChat these daysover irssi. :) and irssi over xchat
[06:50] <di||itante> Berzerker: oh, ok :-)
[06:50] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC Bearshare
[06:50] <Bearshare> Why won't you just help me here
[06:50] <Xerran1> Bearshare: curious do you have ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix?
[06:50] <emanux_> installing k3b.... :)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Bearshare:  they would just be pasteing the instructions at that site most likely
[06:50] <emanux_> will give feedback later
[06:51] <Bearshare> I have ubuntu 810
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> My webcam and mic work on my AAO with the Ubuntu netbook remix,
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Bearshare:  You might with to upgrade to a newer release then.
[06:51] <Bearshare> I cant
[06:51] <Bearshare> I dont have memory space
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> 'memory space ?
[06:51] <Bearshare> I can't upgrade to the newest 904
[06:51] <Bearshare> disk space
[06:52] <bazhang> Bearshare, what version of eeepc
[06:52] <Bearshare> I have this tiny eee pc 701
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Put it in a flash drive.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> 2gb flash drive can run the UNR ubuntu release.
[06:52] <bazhang> Bearshare, works fine for me, same model
[06:52] <Bearshare> maybe you have more disk space
[06:52] <Bearshare> Cuz my eee pc came with a built in webcam and mic, but I can't toggle them
[06:52] <bazhang> same model same disk space Bearshare
[06:52] <Bearshare> What's the deal
[06:53] <Bearshare> 4 gigs?
[06:53] <Berzerker> bearshare...
[06:53] <Berzerker> why can't I see bearshare's messages
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> the hardware drivers/features for the older releases are not  going tobe as good for the netbooks as the newer relesases
[06:53] <bazhang> Bearshare, did you read the link?
[06:53] <Berzerker> bazhang, only person I have ignored is immo_phagg. :P
[06:53] <Bearshare> yes
[06:53] <bazhang> Berzerker, leave it alone please
[06:53] <Bearshare> who's a phagg?
[06:54] <bazhang> Bearshare, keep it on topic
[06:54] <Bearshare> Yeah so how much hardrive space did you start off with bazhang
[06:55] <bazhang> Bearshare, same exact amount
[06:55] <unknownmosquito> anybody mind putting their /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-wacom on pastebin for me? I lost the original :(
[06:55] <Bearshare> which is
[06:55] <mg1118> hello
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> !find 10-wacom
[06:56] <mg1118> hi
[06:56] <mg1118> who you?
[06:56] <leaf-sheep> !ubuntu | mg1118
[06:57] <unknownmosquito> Dr_Willis, I'm not in Ubuntu, but I need to compare what I have to Ubuntu's version
[06:58] <Velt> I have a gutsy install that I inherited, it has not been totally updated.  Gutsy is no longer supported so I can't update it.  Would it be a problem to go directly to Hardy without a fully updated Gutsy?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. you can update/upgrade from one release to the next.. but with that many upgrades - it may be risky
[06:59] <di||itante> Velt: if the upgrade script allows it it should be ok
[07:00] <Velt> I'm only trying to go from 7.10 to 8.04, I am not interested in Intrepid or Jaunty.  Update-manager seems OK with it, guess I'll give it a shot.
[07:00] <di||itante> Velt: go for it
[07:01] <Velt> Alright, thanks.
[07:02] <di||itante> Velt: make sure to pay attention to any terminal messages, sometimes you get important instructions that need to be followed on a significant in place upgrade
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> di||itante:  too late. :)
[07:02] <di||itante> Dr_Willis: yeah, oh well
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> di||itante:  get their answer and run away..... :)
[07:03] <di||itante> Dr_Willis: lol
[07:04] <di||itante> brb, getting a midnight snack
[07:04] <Berzerker> lol it's 2AM
[07:06] <pepee> who can help me with firefox?
[07:06] <pepee> i have updated ffox to another repo, but it's the same
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> 'to another repo' ?
[07:07] <leaf-sheep> What package does Ubuntu use to check Gmail (AND use notify-osd) for notifications?
[07:08] <geekmaster1> hi all. im trying to install something from .deb but its greyed out http://www.imagebam.com/image/d5002c45494641
[07:09] <di||itante> Berzerker: early morning snack
[07:09] <damo221> how do i make X forwarding over ssh possible? it says /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file
[07:09] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: You're downloading something from debain site?
[07:10] <leaf-sheep> debian*
[07:10] <damo221> i want the ssh connections to share x
[07:10] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, yes and or getdeb
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> damo221:  you did  use 'ssh -X remotemachine' ?
[07:10] <damo221> Dr_Willis: yes
[07:10] <di||itante> leaf-sheep: in the ssh command add the "-X" option
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> damo221:  also the ssh server has to have that fetarue enabled.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> damo221:  dont confuse -x with -X either :)
[07:10] <pepee> Dr_Willis, from another repo
[07:11] <di||itante> leaf-sheep: and in the server config you need to enable it too
[07:11] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, if i try to install pidgin from synaptic it says its going to uninstall 'ubuntu-desktop'
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  why not yuse the ones in the normal ubuntu repositories?
[07:11] <leaf-sheep> di||itante: Thanks for... that information?
[07:11] <pepee> i do
[07:11] <damo221> ssh -X <remotemachine>
[07:11] <damo221> doesnt work
[07:11] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, i cant install the same package from 'getdeb' either
[07:11] <damo221> when i try to run an X app
[07:11] <pepee> but nothing work
[07:11] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: Are you trying to update to latest Pidgin?
[07:11] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, im trying to get pidgin on there period. its gone
[07:11] <di||itante> damo221: the server has to allow it from the sshd_config
[07:11] <leaf-sheep> di||itante: You want damo221 :)
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  uninstall teh firefox's you got installed from 'whever' enable the normal repos - reinstall firefox.
[07:12] <di||itante> oh
[07:12] <di||itante> leaf-sheep: thanks
[07:12] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: Have you checked this out? http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[07:12] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, yes
[07:13] <pepee> i installed the karmic version of sqlite3, but didn't worked
[07:13] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, i did that
[07:13] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, "leaf-sheep, if i try to install pidgin from synaptic it says its going to uninstall 'ubuntu-desktop'"
[07:13] <bazhang> pepee, no wonder
[07:13] <damo221> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[07:13] <damo221> Error: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  sounds like you got things all goofed up if you are mixxing up different  release packages..
[07:13] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: Removing ubuntu-desktop will not remove your system.  It's a metapackage.  You could install ubuntu-desktop again afterward.
[07:13] <bazhang> pepee, installing /mixing different versions leads to this
[07:13] <Gnea> damo221: did you remember to configure gdm to allow remote connections?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  i would say start uninstalling whatevber  you 'tried' and then install the normal packages.
[07:14] <pepee> look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7772350
[07:14] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: I'm not sure why it would want ubuntu-desktop removed.  Unless you did something.
[07:14] <damo221> Gnea: probably not
[07:14] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, 'Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed'
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-desktop gets 'removed' whenyou do somthing that removes/changes one of the meta-packages it depends on.
[07:14] <di||itante> damo221: are you the same user on the server and remote?
[07:15] <damo221> di||itante: no
[07:15] <di||itante> damo221: thats the issue
[07:15] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, libpurple0: Depends: libgstfarsight0.10-0 but it is not going to be installed
[07:15] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: Install pidgin, not libpurple0 ?
[07:15] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, pidgin: Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <damo221> di||itante: i have to set up an account for each person i want to access X ?
[07:16] <Xerran1> anyone using hddtemp?
[07:16] <di||itante> damo221: I dont know, I dont think so but I dont know how to do it otherwise
[07:16] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, 'http://www.imagebam.com/image/16240545494839'
[07:17] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: What happened to pidgin though?  How did it end up uninstalled?
[07:17] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, http://www.imagebam.com/image/16240545494839
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> You got to have a user to 'ssh -X ' to ..... i thought
[07:17] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, i dunno. i updated and it uninstalled pidgin
[07:17] <di||itante> damo221: your local xserver is having an issue with trying to run a program as the suer on the server side
[07:17] <di||itante> user
[07:18] <pepee> Dr_Willis, bazhang yes, i installed ffox 3.5 without uninstalling ffox 3.0...
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Err.. you DID isntall the ssh server?
[07:18] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: Try "sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade" to ensure there are no problems so far.
[07:18] <pepee> but it seems that there's a way to solve this
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  i also installed ff3.5  with FF3.0 on  Jaunty with no hassles.
[07:18] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, thats what i did and it removed pidgin
[07:18] <bazhang> pepee, that does not matter, it will reinstall anyway; your problem is mixing karmic and jaunty
[07:18] <damo221> Dr_Willis: i am connecting from one user on the client, to a different user (who exists on the server)
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> pepee:  im not sure what the origianl 'problem' was you tried to fix.. that you ended up breaking things worse.
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> damo221:  ya got to tell the ssh command the user to connect as  .
[07:18] <Berzerker> you can install FF3.5 and FF3.0 side by side because they are different packages.
[07:19] <di||itante> damo221: on another topic, do you really want numerous people sshing to the sam account on a server?
[07:19] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: What's in your /etc/apt/source.list?  You have bunch of PPA/Repos in there?
[07:19] <psi-jack> How can I burn the Ubuntu ISO to CDR through cli, like cdrecord?
[07:19] <bazhang> pepee, remove what you had, get rid of karmic repos; though at this time you had better back up as who knows what has been in terms of damage
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> !info wodim
[07:19] <pepee> bazhang, no, i don't think so, i tried with karmic packages after installing  ffox 3.5
[07:19] <damo221> di||itante: i want to be able to ssh from one box to another, with different accounts
[07:20] <pepee> i have not karmic repos
[07:20] <Berzerker> !wodim | psi-jack
[07:20] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, i guess
[07:20] <Berzerker> fail bot
[07:20] <ectospasm> damo221: what are you trying to do with ssh?
[07:20] <bazhang> pepee, that is your problem most certainly. karmic and jaunty mixing
[07:20] <pepee> bazhang, look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7772350
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> ssh -X  username@hostname
[07:21] <Jeah> Is anyone here especially familiar with the "pioneers" package and game?
[07:21] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: You enabled main, universe, restricted, multiverse, and third-party software in Software Sources?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> !info pioneers
[07:21] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, yes
[07:21] <di||itante> damo221: hmmm I just did it and it worked for me
[07:22] <Jeah> Dr_Willis: not the question... do you happen to know much about it?  I'm having a weird problem where not even my computer players can connect to my local game
[07:22] <damo221> di||itante: try opening an X app
[07:22] <di||itante> damo221: yes it works for me
[07:22] <damo221> :(
[07:22] <di||itante> damo221: hang on
[07:22] <leaf-sheep> geekmaster1: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package.  You could remove that.  Also, you could continue and remove it.  Afterward, install ubuntu-desktop again.  However, any package (that links to ubuntu-desktop) you removed after clean installation might be reinstalled again.
[07:23] <spO> can i change group  elite2  to user2   in my groupfile?  how do i change the group name and also change the group of all the files that had the previous group to the new group?
[07:24] <pepee> well, thanks guys, i'm going to install ffox 3.0 again
[07:24] <geekmaster1> leaf-sheep, ok
[07:24] <geekmaster1> brb
[07:24] <Berzerker> pepee, what's the problem?
[07:24] <pepee> bye people
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> I still wonder what it is with people breaking firefox all day long....
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:24] <psi-jack> man.. wodim/cdrecord doesn't give a progress of it's burning. heh
[07:25] <psi-jack> Hmmm.. Wait.. Did Ubuntu 8.04 have LVM support during installation?
[07:25] <pepee> Berzerker, ffox 3 has problems with flash...
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> I have no problems with Firefox 3 and flash here.
[07:25] <psi-jack> Did/does/
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> I think its more of a 'flash has problems'  with everything....
[07:26] <di||itante> damo221: I think at some point I modded my ~/.Xauthority file
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> psi-jack: Not likely.  Unless you're using alternative disc during installation for LVM support.
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> psi-jack: And encryption support.
[07:26] <psi-jack> Oy...
[07:26] <ectospasm> leaf-sheep: it depends on what you mean by encryption support
[07:26] <psi-jack> And the 8.04.3 alternate install was only available to download via torrent. GRR!
[07:27] <leaf-sheep> ectospasm: cryptsetup, I believe.
[07:27] <di||itante> damo221: mkxauth is still useful for transferring .Xauthority information to remote login sessions so that the user can display remote X clients on the local host without too much trouble.
[07:27] <Berzerker> pepee, not on mine lol
[07:27] <di||itante> damo221: do some googling, youll figure it out
[07:27] <ectospasm> leaf-sheep: yeah, that's for disk-level encryption.  IIRC the full version of Jaunty will install ecryptfs and set up your private directory for you
[07:27] <di||itante> damo221: Im sorry I done remember the details
[07:27] <pepee> well, i'm f***ed :(
[07:28] <bazhang> pepee, watch the language
[07:28] <pepee> oh sorry
[07:28] <pepee> thanks guys
[07:28] <pepee> bye
[07:28] <leaf-sheep> ectospasm: Does not that only encrypt a private directory (eg ~/Private) as opposed to a full-system encryption?
[07:29] <ectospasm> leaf-sheep: yeah
[07:29] <Lark007> hi, i'm having problems installing archived files that depend on each other.
[07:30] <ectospasm> leaf-sheep: ecryptfs has advantages over block-level encryption, read the ecryptfs FAQ
[07:30] <ectospasm> leaf-sheep: but as with anything, there are tradeoffs
[07:30] <leaf-sheep> psi-jack: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[07:31] <jmite> does anybody know of a gnome app that is equivalent to verve in XFCE or the KDE3 launcher app?
[07:31] <jmite> something in my panel that I can enter commands into without a terminal window
[07:31] <psi-jack> leaf-sheep: Poifect, thanks.
[07:31] <ectospasm> jmite: ALt-F2 doesnt' do what you need?
[07:32] <psi-jack> leaf-sheep: I didn't want to have to use the "alternative" method of installing lvm support into Ubuntu's live desktop installer method, pain in the arse. Unless that method's the only way to enable striping properly.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> jmite:  or gnome-do,  i though i saw some command linein the panle applet at one time.. but its proberly not installed by default
[07:32] <ectospasm> LVM is separate from RAID, LVM doesn't do striping, does it?
[07:32] <jmite> ectospasm: I'm looking for something that docks into the panel, and that is a little more friendly with commands that aren't necesarrily programs "ie compiz --replace"
[07:32] <psi-jack> ectospasm: Umm, yes it does does.
[07:33] <di||itante> jmite:RC on the panel > add to panel > launch application
[07:33] <jmite> Dr_Willis: that's a good idea,I'll check out gnome do
[07:33] <psi-jack> ectospasm: It does striping actually rather quite well for software volume management approaches.
[07:33] <leaf-sheep> psi-jack: I think you can install lvm on Ubuntu Live Desktop and install it.  I can't be sure but I read something about it once N days ago.  Anyway, I know alternative disk got LVM support.  That's all.
[07:33] <spO> after i  change my group's name from IAMELITE to user in my /etc/group file,  how do I change all the files on my system to use the new group instead of the previous one?
[07:33] <psi-jack> leaf-sheep: Yes, I know you can. It's just a pain to do it. ;)
[07:33] <Dacvak> Hey guys, what's the best way to install Beryl/Compiz?
[07:33] <bazhang> !ccsm | Dacvak
[07:34] <psi-jack> leaf-sheep: But, yeah, if it boils down to it, if Ubuntu's alternate installer doesn't let me do lvm striping proper, then I /will/ use the live method manually.
[07:34] <jmite> di||ante: I have no such app listed. is there a deb I should install?
[07:34] <ectospasm> psi-jack: I guess I've never looked into what goes on underneath a multiple PV LV
[07:34] <bazhang> Dacvak, its compiz now, beryl is long gone help in #compiz
[07:34] <ectospasm> ...especially one that spans multiple physical disks
[07:34] <tinkers> :tinkers kbkris12
[07:34] <psi-jack> ectospasm: LVM also has the nice wonderful snapshots capability. ;)
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> ectospasm: Thanks for the knowledge on ecrypts. :)
[07:35] <di||itante> spO: find / -gid xxx -exec chown username \{\} \;
[07:35] <Dacvak> No one is responsive in #compiz. Is Compiz in the standard repo? Can I just apt-get it?
[07:35] <di||itante> spO: oops, do this
[07:35] <bazhang> Dacvak, what version of ubuntu?
[07:35] <di||itante> spO: find / -gid xxx -exec chown username:groupname \{\} \;
[07:36] <Dacvak> 9.04 64bit
[07:36] <bazhang> Dacvak, follow the instructions from ubottu above
[07:36] <Dacvak> Ok
[07:38] <psi-jack> Curious, anyone here use eBox with Ubuntu 9.04?
[07:38] <coolyas> hi guys
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> i keep hearing ebox has 'issues'
[07:38] <coolyas> ebox??
[07:38] <psi-jack> Meaning, /an/ eBox server, with /another/ computer running Ubuntu 9.04
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> !info ebox
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> good descriptiuon eh
[07:39] <psi-jack> heh
[07:39] <coolyas> what is eBox
[07:39] <psi-jack> I'm actually going to check out eBox for one or more of my server boxes, cause of the web management system they have built up for it. Pretty impressive by idea.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Jack in the ebox.
[07:39] <psi-jack> coolyas: Google it. ;)
[07:39] <leaf-sheep> !ebox | coolyas
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> its  a remote-admin-gui-web tol thing
[07:40] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[07:40] <coolyas> OK
[07:41] <psi-jack> It just so happends to also nicely integrate LDAP support in place, which is one thing I was really interested in, along with web-based monitoring.
[07:41] <sudhir584> ojsadokd\
[07:43] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Just curious, what kind of issues?
[07:43] <Berzerker> psi-jack, I'm reading problems with it with ubuntu.
[07:43] <psi-jack> Berzerker: Like?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  no idea - every time it gets mentioned in here it gets scrreamed about.. :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  aparently some breakage in past releases...
[07:43] <Berzerker> psi-jack, it was one person, and they didn't explain, so no idea lol
[07:44] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Ahh, well, they just recently released 1.2 not long ago.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  wait for service pack 1 for it.
[07:45] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: I'm looking into it for home server use, and for work server use, cause our co-lo servers, we're about to be using our own double-redundant ipvs load balancers, and the easier to maintain the better, most of our servers are gentoo-based, and that can be a hassle for large amounts of probabilities for routing.
[07:45] <Megabyte> I need to ask a question
[07:45] <Berzerker> !ask | MeditatingFrog
[07:45] <Berzerker> blah
[07:45] <Horusofoz> Hi - I've managed to install Ubuntu but it keeps losing my resolution every time I reboot. I have installed the Nvidia drivers and changed the resolution through it and saved to the xconfig using sudo but my resolution keeps changing when I reboot.
[07:45] <Berzerker> !ask | Megabyte
[07:45]  * Dr_Willis starts the  meter for Megabyte
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> 'go on, how does that make you feel?'
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:46] <Horusofoz> If it helps the resolution is correct for login screen but reverts to 800x600 when desktop opens :(
[07:46] <Megabyte> Berberi, Dr_Willis what is the whole if it is something contained in itself, and it doesn't exist in time, and it always change, so it can't be like itself?
[07:47] <psi-jack> Alrighty.. Well, anyway. Got all my backups I think, done, so I'm off to go install Ubuntu on here.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Megabyte:  it is what it was , and what it will be will always has been.
[07:47] <Megabyte> Dr_Willis, But how can it be, if it is outside of time?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> 'zen and the art of system maintance'
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Megabyte:  there is no time to be outside of.
[07:48] <dca> I am not able to Hibernate.. Showing error "Not enough Swap space" I have 500mb of swap space
[07:48] <Megabyte> Dr_Willis, If it isn't outside of time it's not whole, because it is part of something
[07:48] <Megabyte> Dr_Willis, (time)
[07:48] <dca> Somebody help me please
[07:48] <harmonic> dca, time to increase your swap space
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dca:   you need a bigger swap partition perhaps.
[07:49] <Dacvak> I'm sorry to bother you guys about this, but could someone tell me how to get that Apple-esque bottom screen toolbar?
[07:49] <Berzerker> Dacvak, like a dock?
[07:49] <Dacvak> Yeah
[07:49] <Berzerker> sudo apt-get install awn
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  one of the many useless 'docks' that exist.
[07:49] <dca> harmonic: how can i increase swap space
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[07:49] <Dacvak> Should I not get something like that?
[07:49] <Berzerker> Dr_Willis, u r winnar.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> dca:  resize the swap partition.
[07:49] <Berzerker> Dacvak, if you want it, go ahead. some people despise apple, and therfore, the dock. I find it handy sometimes.
[07:50] <Dacvak> I'm going for efficiency, not style.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> I find the dock get in the way of the more useable gnome panels.
[07:50] <Dacvak> I don't like Apple, but I'm not biased.
[07:50] <Megabyte> Dr_Willis, yet, if it has no shape, and it is outside of time, because if it was inside time it was part of something, and it can't be like itself, and it can't be nothing, because nothing is, what is "the whole"?
[07:50] <harmonic> dca, use something like gparted to increase swap partition size. but backup first!
[07:50] <di||itante> Dacvak: its fine but just eye candy. You need to be running compiz for it to work too
[07:50] <Dacvak> If it works, it works.
[07:50] <dca> Dr_Willis: i installed gparted for that.. but not getting that option
[07:50] <Dacvak> I'm running compiz
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> dca:  you cant resize partitions that are mounted or in use.
[07:50] <Megabyte> What *is* this thing, if it can't be whole but it can't be nothing and it can't be something?
[07:50] <Dacvak> Does it take the place of the bottom toolbar thing?
[07:50]  * Megabyte is completely confused
[07:51] <dca> Dr_Willis: okay... let me try it out..
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  they replace the bottom panel normally. or they can auto hide
[07:51] <Flimflam> Hi
[07:51] <di||itante> Dacvak: no, but you wont want both, takes up too much real estate
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  gnome-do has a similer feature that has a dock theme that works ok.
[07:51] <Dacvak> Oh yeah? Where's that?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Install gnome-do check its themes
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !gnome-do
[07:52] <Berzerker> Megabyte, do you...have a question about ubuntu? lol
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> gnome do's 'shelf' feature shows up things in a dock.
[07:52] <Megabyte> Berzerker, Is Ubuntu a part of a whole, or something whole?
[07:52] <Dacvak> Ok, cool. I'll check it out. What was the Apple dock called again?
[07:52] <Berzerker> Megabyte, Ubuntu is something whole. A whole Operating system.
[07:53] <dca> Dr_Willis: How much should be my Swap space
[07:53] <Flimflam> secret
[07:53] <Berzerker> Megabyte, but it is also a part of a whole of a category.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  theres several dock apps you can play with. wbar, awn, otheres
[07:53] <Berzerker> Megabyte, everything is a whole of something, and part of something else.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> dca:  depends on your ram.  if yoiu want to hibernet it needs to be  bigger then avail ram.
[07:53] <Megabyte> Berzerker, If it is whole, it can't be like itself, and it can't be within time, and it can't be anything, and it can't have shape, and it can't be nothing, anything or something...
[07:53] <Dacvak> Thanks a lot. I'll look into those.
[07:53] <Megabyte> Berzerker, then "is" Ubuntu?
[07:53] <dca> Dr_Willis: Thanks Friend
[07:54] <Berzerker> Megabyte, take your philosophic mumbo-jumbo elsewhere. this channel is for technical questions about using Ubuntu lol.
[07:54] <Megabyte> Berzerker, well, you could answer me :P
[07:54] <Megabyte> hahaha
[07:54] <Berzerker> Megabyte, I could. but I'm not going to because the answer should not be given in this channel.
[07:55] <bazhang> !ot
[07:55] <Megabyte> Berzerker, You have to admit though that I did make a question about Ubuntu, didn't I?
[07:55] <Horusofoz> Can anyone help with my resolution issue?
[07:55] <Pirate_Hunter> hi people can some help me, i wish to install ubuntu on a compaq pressario 5410 (very old) however it seems the latest server kernel doesnt work with it, so i am wondering which kernels work for it?
[07:55] <Berzerker> Megabyte, this channel is for help with USING ubuntu. if you're not using it, then you cannot ask an ontopic question in here.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  what cpu?/system specs
[07:56] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis,  whats the command to check that again, forgot
[07:56] <Bearshare> Stew!
[07:57] <bazhang> Bearshare, stay on topic
[07:57] <Megabyte> Berzerker, I see... but it was fun while it lasted :(
[07:57] <harmonic> Pirate_Hunter cat /proc/cpuinfo and cat /proc/meminfo
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  how can you type a command.. if it wont install the os?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:57] <bazhang> Megabyte, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:57] <Megabyte> bazhang, I'll leave... I'll just say farewell
[07:57] <Megabyte> See you, guys
[07:57] <bazhang> thanks
[07:58] <ksonnad> First time here--is this open for any questions?
[07:58] <bazhang> ksonnad, related to ubuntu sure
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ksonnad:  yes.
[07:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, it is installed but it had a generic kernel however i updated it to the latest kernel which made the box unable to boot because it said something that it wasnt the right kernel for the box and it needed function 0:6 0:15
[07:59] <ksonnad> Okay.  There are several bugs in Rhythmbox for Jaunty that degrade its usefulness for me.  They have been fixed in Karmix.  Is there any way I can upgrade to the Karmic version?
[07:59] <bazhang> ksonnad, wait for karmic release and upgrade
[07:59] <dca> Dr_Willis: I cannot resize ... there is no free space preceeding :(
[07:59] <ksonnad> Aside from that option, of course.  =)
[07:59] <dca> Dr_Willis: Any idea how can i go about
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> dca:  well you have to resize whats befor it.. then..  and shrink that.. to put some unallocated space ahead of it.
[08:00] <bazhang> ksonnad, mixing version repos packages is a bad idea and not supported
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> dca:  backup all imporntant data befor doing filesystem resizeing operations
[08:00] <dca> Dr_Willis: thanks.. let me try it
[08:00] <ksonnad> I understand that it's messy.  But I've heard of stuff like apt-pinning and force version in synaptic.  I was just wondering if its possible?
[08:01] <green> #ubuntu-ir
[08:01] <losher> ksonnad: if the changes are to the Rmbox source code, in theory you could download that source & compile it. But it would be a lot of work, and not a good project for a beginner. And it might still not work....
[08:01] <bazhang> ksonnad, lots of things are possible, but you are on your own (ie not supported) at that point, better to find a PPA or check in backports
[08:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, any clue which kernels provide that function
[08:02] <Dacvak> Oh balls, in messing with the compiz settings, I've somehow managed to disable the ability to drag a window from one desktop to another. Any idea on how to re-enable this?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  not a clue.
[08:02] <bazhang> Dacvak, plugin move windows iirc
[08:02] <ksonnad> losher: What kind of conflicts would that cause with the installed package?
[08:03] <Narada> hello
[08:03] <Dacvak> bazhang: What is that?
[08:03] <bazhang> Dacvak, a checkbox in ccsm
[08:04] <Dacvak> Oh. I can't seem to find it. I'm still looking, though.
[08:05] <spO> i have problems activating my fglrx on a custom 2.6.30-4 kernel  .... have any of you sucessfully used fglrx with a custom kernel?
[08:05] <Horusofoz> Resolution keeps resetting to 800x600 - Anyone ideas (Ubuntu 9.04)?
[08:05] <losher> ksonnad: no conflicts if you're just compiling & testing. But the hard part will be compiling it. New source might depend on new libraries that are only available in Karmic. In which case you'd be screwed...
[08:05] <ectospasm> Horusofoz: could be a bunch of things.  Ubuntu may not be recognizing your monitor (I had this problem once because of bent pins on the VGA cable)
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> dvi monitors are  so much better then vga in this area. :)
[08:06] <dca> Dr_Willis: Sorry to bother u again.. I have two Ntfs partitions and then the extented partiition where Linux is installed..
[08:06] <ksonnad> losher: I've tried it once before and run into issues, although I didn't try very hard to solve them.  In any case, that's why I was wondering if there was another way to do it, e.g. apt-pinning or force-version or something....
[08:06] <dca> Dr_Willis: but not getting any option to shrink the ntfs partitions
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> dca:  be sure its not in use.. use gparted from a live cd perhaps.. or use windows to shrink the ntfs within windows.
[08:07] <Horusofoz> ectospasm: Ubuntu has recognised the screen and got me to install the Nvidia drivers. Then I open Nvidia with sudo, save the settings to X Confinguration then reboot and the resoution is reset. If it help the resolution is correct at login screen but reverts once the desktop loads up :(
[08:08] <losher> ksonnad: the apt tricks mainly work when you want to preserve and old version of something, not a new version from a different release. I'd give up on it if I were you...
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> dca:  i always use primary partitions.  the  partitions in the 'extended' partition may need extra work/steps to resize it.,
[08:08] <dca> Dr_Willis: thanks friend...
[08:08] <zeltak> hi. when you add your own words to aspell (IE "add environment to dictionary option when right clicking) where is it stored? how do you back that up on a comp upgrade?
[08:08] <ectospasm> Horusofoz: take out all the modes except the one(s) you want in xorg.conf
[08:08] <syntax> ksonnad i would just use another music program
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  must be in the users home directroy somewhere..   thats all i know :()
[08:09] <ksonnad> syntax: Unfortunately, it's the only one that incorporates all the features I want.
[08:09] <losher> zeltak: probably $HOME/.aspell*
[08:09] <firecrotch> Horusofoz: can you repeat your question?
[08:10] <ksonnad> losher: Thanks for the advice.  I'll probably beat my head against the wall for a couple hours anyway.  :)
[08:10] <Horusofoz> firecrotch: When I run Ubuntu the login screen has the correct resolution but it reverts to 800x600 at the desktop
[08:10] <zeltak> thx guys but i cant find it in the home dir, any other places i should look at?
[08:11] <dca> Dr_Willis: I am logging off and trying to shrink the partition from windows.. will get back to u ...thanks once again.. :)
[08:11] <losher> ksonnad: ah, well if it's a headache you want, just install Karmic. And back up your current system before you do it, 'cause you'll need it...
[08:11] <Horusofoz> firecrotch: I installed the nVidia drivers as ubuntu directed and set the resolution, saved over xorg.conf but it reverts on reboot :(
[08:11] <firecrotch> Horusofoz: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please :)
[08:11] <abe3k> hi guys, I was wondering if it is safe to remove the cache folder contents located in the home directory
[08:12] <losher> zeltak: look again. I have .aspell.en.prepl  and .aspell.en.pws in my home directory...
[08:12] <ksonnad> losher: Well, I do have an empty partition....maybe I will.  ;-)
[08:12] <Horusofoz> ectospasm: Ubuntu is installed on a portable drive to use in various systems. If I remove all other resolution option will it cause issues when running on other screens?
[08:13] <ectospasm> Horusofoz: yes, it will, so my suggested is invalid for your use
[08:13] <zeltak> wow that strange...im using kubuntu if that matters but cant find them. are they at the root home dir?
[08:13] <firecrotch> Horusofoz: Probably
[08:13] <lars> join #kubuntu
[08:13] <abe3k> guys, I was wondering if it is safe to remove the cache folder contents located in the home directory
[08:14] <zeltak> thx i dont think its a kubuntu issue though
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  when right clicking aspell? aspell is a cli app here....
[08:14] <Dr_Willis>  theres the users .aspell.conf file also
[08:14] <zeltak> well i assumed its aspell. its the default spell checker in all gnome apps i sue
[08:14]  * Dr_Willis is checking the aspell docs with 'man aspell' and 'info aspell'
[08:14] <Horusofoz> firecrotch: http://pastebin.com/m47a59dbe
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  like what app?
[08:15] <Dacvak> Someone tried to help me earlier. I'm no longer able to slide windows from one desktop to the other. He recommended "Move Windows." That's working fine, I can drag windows, but when they hit the edge of the screen, they don't go to the next workspace. Any idea?
[08:15] <zeltak> keepnote, tomboy etc..
[08:15] <bazhang> Dacvak, enable cube, enable cube rotate, make sure you have four sides to the cube
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  the dictionary program seems to be using 'enchant' here for its spell checker
[08:16] <Dacvak> I'd prefer to use Wall instead of Cube.
[08:16] <zeltak> Dr_Willis: in tomboy when you right click a misspeld word you get a menu
[08:16] <bazhang> then when it hits the wall thats it
[08:16] <abe3k> Dacvak : is compiz running ?
[08:16] <zeltak> on that menu you have an option to add to dictionary..i want to upgrae to karmic alpha soon and dont want to lose all my added words
[08:16] <Dacvak> It's running.
[08:17] <Dacvak> And actually, enabling Cube Rotate didn't work.
[08:17] <Dacvak> I don't remember clicking anything to make this quit working. Could it just be a glitch? Should I just restart?
[08:17] <ksonnad> Dacvak: Are you sure that you have multiple workspaces set up?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  id guess its some where in the .gnome* dirs somewhere.
[08:17] <Dacvak> I have 4.
[08:17] <bazhang> Dacvak, how did you activate it, check keybindings
[08:17] <bazhang> Dacvak, 4 set where
[08:17]  * losher wonders just how many layers of software a person has to run to be able to slide a window from one desktop to the other...
[08:17] <abe3k> Dacvak : disable and enable move windows to make sure
[08:17] <Dacvak> Horizontally.
[08:17] <Dacvak> I tried that.
[08:18] <zeltak> i used locate to find any aspell files with no sucess
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  im not convinced it is using aspell.
[08:18] <zeltak> ahh gotcha..i kinda assumed it did
[08:18] <zeltak> so you think its a gnome dictionary thing?
[08:18] <Dacvak> Hmmm, nothing's working. Maybe I should just restart?
[08:18] <leaf-sheep> Hello Hardy user, what version of openoffice.org is default?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  the dictionary app is set to use 'enchant' by default it seems
[08:18] <bazhang> best to wait when someone is around in #compiz then as they will set it right in short order Dacvak
[08:19] <Horusofoz> accidentally closed Pidgin
[08:19] <abe3k> Dacvak : enable edge flip from the wall
[08:19] <Dacvak> It's enabled.
[08:19] <Dacvak> I just checked it.
[08:19] <Dacvak> Tried disabling and re-enabling.
[08:19] <Dacvak> Must be broke.
[08:19] <ksonnad> Dacvak: Did you mean none of the compiz effects are working?
[08:19] <Dacvak> All of the compiz effects are working fine.
[08:19] <zeltak> sweet, thx Dr_Willis found the file with user added content :)
[08:19] <Dacvak> Just not edge flipping, apparently.
[08:20] <Dacvak> I have Edge Flip Move enabled.
[08:20] <losher> zeltak: where was it?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> zeltak:  i added a word in tomboy. the disctionary program checker found it.. so it seems its using enchant.
[08:20] <zeltak> ~/.config/enchant
[08:20] <Boohbah> leaf-sheep: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openoffice.org
[08:20] <ksonnad> Dacvak: Do you have Snap Windows enabled?
[08:20] <abe3k> Dacvak : did you try the keyboard shortcuts ?
[08:20] <Dacvak> The keyboard shortcuts work fine.
[08:21] <Dacvak> Let me check on snap windows.
[08:21] <Dacvak> Snapping Windows is enabled.
[08:21] <Dacvak> Disabled it, still nothing.
[08:21] <leaf-sheep> Boohbah: Cheers. :o
[08:21] <abe3k> Dacvak : check the edge delay in the general tab
[08:21] <Dacvak> This is odd, because I don't think I messed anything up with this... Hmmm.
[08:21] <Dacvak> Ok.
[08:22] <abe3k> Dacvak : make sure its low
[08:22] <ksonnad> Dacvak: And what is it exactly that you can't do?  Can't move a window to another workspace?  Can't make the workspace change when you do so?  Or something else?
[08:22] <Dacvak> Wait, general tab of what?
[08:22] <Dacvak> I can't move a window to another workspace using just the mouse.
[08:22] <Dacvak> Right or left.
[08:22] <abe3k> Dacvak : general options
[08:23] <abe3k> Dacvak : edge trigger delay
[08:23] <Dacvak> That didn't fix it.
[08:23] <Dacvak> Set it to default
[08:23] <Dacvak> 0
[08:23] <zeltak> i wonder if enchant uses aspell as the dic..oh nevermind, thx again guys
[08:23] <Dacvak> Still nothing. :(
[08:23] <FloodBot3> Dacvak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <Dacvak> Brb, I'm going to try just restarting.
[08:23] <losher> Dacvak: did you do the restart you said you might try? 'Cos if that fixes it, you're gonna be really annoyed.....
[08:24] <samuel> Hey, I see that you're in the middle of something and everything but I've got a quick question? what would be the command to "set file ownership to root:root and file permissions to: rwx-r-xr-x."
[08:24] <losher> zeltak: a pox on whoever wrote the enchant man page for not mentioning the files it uses...
[08:24] <spO> what command will tell me what ports are in used?
[08:24] <abe3k> Dacvak : try pressing alt+f2 and type : compiz --replace
[08:24] <Boohbah> spO: sudo netstat -anp
[08:25] <Boohbah> spO: if you don't have netstat, 'sudo apt-get install net-tools'
[08:25] <Narada> hello
[08:25] <Boohbah> !hi | Narada
[08:26] <Dacvak> Damn, still doesn't work.
[08:26] <Dacvak> :(
[08:26] <Firefishe> How do I restart my xserver?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Firefishe:  sudo service gdm restart (is one way)
[08:26] <Narada> how to enable mobitel brodband cunnection
[08:26] <samuel> hey all, I have a question really quick, shouldn't be hard
[08:26] <Boohbah> Firefishe: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:26] <Firefishe> Dr_Willis, Boohbah:  Thank you.
[08:26] <Firefishe> Both of those should suffice.
[08:26] <Horusofoz> Still desperate to get display fixed here :(
[08:26] <ksonnad> Dacvak: Can you drag the window off the screen, or will it not move beyond the boundary?
[08:27] <abe3k> Narada : do you have a built in gsm card reader ?
[08:27] <samuel> How would one set file ownership to root:root and file permissions to: rwx-r-xr-x. in terminal?
[08:27] <Narada> no
[08:27] <Narada> g get amobitel dongle
[08:27] <Dacvak> It'll drag off the screen until my mouse cursor hits the edge.
[08:27] <pimpmupppet> hey i'm having trouble installing visual themes.
[08:27] <Boohbah> samuel: sudo chown root: file && sudo chmod 755 file
[08:27] <samuel> Boohbah: Thanks, I'll try that
[08:27] <tobiassjosten> I'm getting these locale errors all the time and no matter how many forum threads or blog posts I read I can't seem to shake them.. http://pastebin.com/d4ab9575d
[08:28] <Tamnakz> Is there a chat program for ubuntu that supports video for aim/
[08:28] <ksonnad> Dacvak: And the off-screen portion shows up on the other workspace?
[08:28] <Dacvak> Whoa what the F
[08:28] <Narada> hello
[08:28] <Dacvak> It just started working again.
[08:28] <abe3k> Narada : a 3g dongle ?
[08:28] <Narada> yes
[08:28] <Narada> it installed
[08:28] <Dacvak> I'm just going to never mess with it again. Lol.
[08:28] <fosser_josh1> hi i want ATI radeon 4670 drivers for ubuntu.
[08:28] <Narada> but dont know open
[08:29] <Dacvak> I just started hitting all the default buttons. Nothing visibly changed, but it's now working.
[08:29] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: pidgin doesn't support video for AIM, but ekiga can do video conferencing, just not over AIM protocol
[08:29] <Dacvak> I'm glad it's fixed. I really appreciate all the help you guys gave me, too.
[08:29] <Tamnakz> boohbah, not over aim protocol? for other services?
[08:29] <Narada> hello
[08:30] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: yeah, voip, sip
[08:30] <abe3k> Narada : what does sudo wvdial return from the terminal ?
[08:30] <Narada> no i did't try
[08:30] <Tamnakz> boohbah : for any of the chat services a windows user would have?
[08:30] <losher> samuel: sudo chown root:root <filename> ; sudo chmod u=rwx,go=rx <filename>
[08:30] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: you could both install Skype
[08:31] <abe3k> Narada : try $ sudo wvdial
[08:31] <blackcow> something is really wrong, i have a eeepc that had windows 7 on it, i repartitioned some space for eeeubuntu, it was working fine, but now for some reason it thinks it has 0 bytes hard drive space left and i cant save anything!
[08:31] <Narada> coomand not find
[08:31] <Boohbah> losher: sudo chown root: file && sudo chmod 755 file
[08:31] <abe3k> Narada : wvdial
[08:31] <Narada> plz complete commnda
[08:31] <Tamnakz> boohbah: would I just get it through synaptic?
[08:31] <Narada> how to type complete
[08:32] <losher> Boohbah: same thing, hopefully...
[08:32] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[08:32] <Tamnakz> boohbah thanks
[08:32] <abe3k> Narada : I'm pming you
[08:32] <Dacvak> I'm sorry to continually bother you guys (I'm really new to Ubuntu), but is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for the quicklaunch icons? Like, Ctrl 1 launches Firefox or something?
[08:33] <samuel> there
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> system -> perf -> keryboard shortcuts   perhaps?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Dacvak:  or install/try out gnome-do :)
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> thenit would be super-space F,
[08:34] <legend2440> tobiassjosten: read post # 5 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75493
[08:34] <Dacvak> Ok, thanks for the tip.
[08:34] <losher> Dr_Willis: super-space?
[08:34] <Tamnakz> boohbah - to add the repository, do I add it as third party software?
[08:34] <ksonnad> losher: super = the "Window" key
[08:35] <tobiassjosten> legend2440: That did the trick. Thanks for the suggestion!
[08:35] <jason2007> hey everyone hows it going?
[08:35] <losher> ksonnad: thanks...
[08:35] <legend2440> tobiassjosten: your welcome
[08:35] <blackcow> noone knows why the hell ubuntu thinks i have 0 bytes free of hard drive space :-(
[08:36] <Brazz> Hi, I'm running an windows app through wine, in this app it says that I should need to install the latest flash plugin to run the application properly. But I already have  the latest flash plugin installed, what should I do? Install another flash plugin through wine?
[08:36] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: actually... it says ekiga is compatible with windows messenger, so if your friend has that you should be able to use ekiga too
[08:36] <chip1> brazz:yup
[08:36] <Boohbah> Tamnakz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
[08:36] <Tamnakz> ok, thta'd be easier
[08:36] <Brazz> chip1: won't it be harmful to the computer?
[08:37] <chip1> Brazz:how so?
[08:37] <Tricky> hello
[08:37] <Brazz> chip1: I dont know that's why I am asking
[08:37] <Narada> it installed
[08:37] <Narada> in netwak it show
[08:37] <Narada> but
[08:37] <Narada> cant cunnt
[08:37] <chip1> Brazz: no WINE is like a  windows box inside linux
[08:37] <Horusofoz> How to make resolution for Ubuntu 9.04 stay 1280x1024? I have the nvidia drivers installed and change the settings with sudo then save to xconfiguration but it still reverts to 800x600 on reboot.
[08:38] <chip1> Brazz: it can
[08:38] <Narada> hello aba3k
[08:38] <chip1> Brazz: WINE can't use the linux flash binaries
[08:38] <Firefishe> I'm using kde 4.2.4, I'm assuming compositing is on.  Each time I use Firefox, after a bit of browsing, suddenly my scrollbar locks up, then the screen start artificating something fierce.  What might be going on here?
[08:38] <Brazz> chip1: if so, that would also mean that if I want to get better visual performance/graphics running windows app through wine, then I should install Direct3D through wine too. Is that right?
[08:38] <chip1> Brazz: correct
[08:38] <abe3k> Narada : did you try the wvdial ?
[08:39] <Narada> it has installed
[08:39] <Brazz> chip1: could I then install my video card's drivers using wine and get it working fine?
[08:39] <Narada> but didint cunnct
[08:39] <chip1> Brazz: although none of that will help if you don't have the right linux drivers
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:  you dont install drivers with wine...
[08:39] <Narada> now i am in wireless
[08:39] <abe3k> Narada : type inthe terminal: sudo wvdial
[08:39] <mo0n_sniper> hi,i have a ext3 partition of 82Gb, i have 50Gb of data on it,but the system reports "used 66Gb(i have reserved space disabled)
[08:40] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: but then the "windows" won't see that I'm using a video driver
[08:40] <sblunix> @mo0n_sniper: what do you define as "data"? Personal data? All data? How do you know you have 50GB of data?
[08:40] <Boohbah> Brazz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508898
[08:40] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: and there's no other way of getting the damn driver installed because I happen to own an old ati card and I'm using jaunty too.
[08:40] <Boohbah> Brazz: that's not really how wine works
[08:41] <sblunix> Oh, btw @ Boobah: Thanks earlier for answering my File Ownership Question
[08:41] <legend2440> Horusofoz: in terminal type  xrandr -q  is  1280x1024  one of the options?
[08:41] <Brazz> Boohbah: thanks
[08:41] <Boohbah> sblunix: welcome
[08:41] <mo0n_sniper> sblunix, on the partition there's only a foder called home witch has 50 gb of data
[08:41] <Boohbah> Brazz: :)
[08:41] <chip1> Boobah: ah thx for the link!
[08:41] <Narada> it show no such file or derectory
[08:41] <Horusofoz> legend2440: yes - top option
[08:41] <blackcow> it looks like i screwed up somehow and only partitioned 3 gigs of the HDD for ubuntu, oops! Is it possible to save my ubuntu install and partition some more space to it away from the windows install?
[08:42] <Narada> hello
[08:42] <Brazz> Boohbah: as I have read it says that the latest versions of wine already have direct3d running properly.
[08:42] <sblunix> mo0n_sniper: You've made a seperate partition for home, and once again, what told you you had 50GB of data, and what part of the system is reporting the 66GB of data used?
[08:42] <Narada> hello
[08:42] <godmodegrafix> hello
[08:42] <Narada> abe3k
[08:42] <legend2440> Horusofoz: can you paste your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file?
[08:42] <legend2440> !paste
[08:42] <chip1> Boobah: Brazz still needs to install flash through WINE correct?
[08:42] <Boohbah> Brazz: a limited implementation of direct3d
[08:42] <Brazz> Boohbah: that means there would be no need to install the directx, is that right?
[08:42] <abe3k> Narada : look in your private message , I'm talking there
[08:42] <Boohbah> !winehq | Brazz
[08:43] <Brazz> Boohbah: ohhh ok, then I hould install directx then
[08:43] <Brazz> Boohbah: to get a better performance
[08:43] <Horusofoz> legend2440: This is the output http://pastebin.com/m196a4b9f
[08:43] <Boohbah> Brazz: best is the search wine app db for your particular application to see how well it works with wine
[08:43] <chip1> Brazz: wine has their own DirectX
[08:43] <Bearshare> hey
[08:43] <Boohbah> Brazz: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:43] <chip1> Brazz: according to that first link
[08:43] <neil_d> I have the sound on my computer going :) but the microphone wont work... I am using the latest ubuntu. can anyone help?
[08:43] <ninjabook> Brazz: look at winetricks
[08:44] <mo0n_sniper> sblunix, right click-> properties on the home folder reports 50Gb of data,       menu->system->administration->system monitor   reports used 66 gb
[08:44] <blackcow> would the live CD let me give more space to one partition from another? please help!
[08:44] <jetscreamer> #winehq
[08:44] <Boohbah> neil_d: open up your sound mixer and unmute the mic channel
[08:44] <losher> blackcow: depends on the disk layout. You should be able to shrink one partition leaving free space, and then grow the ubuntu partition, as long as they are contiguous. But messing with partitions is dangerous and can cause you to lose all your data. You've already made one mistake. How lucky do you feel? Make some backups first...
[08:44] <Dacvak> Is there any convenient way to make Super 1/2/3/4 correspond to each workspace?
[08:44] <mo0n_sniper> blackcow, try resizing the partitions with gparted
[08:45] <blackcow> yeah its just my eeepc netbook, wouldnt be the end of the world
[08:45] <Firefishe> I've got major artifacting whilst using firefox in kde 4.2.4. I'll be browing along just fine, then the browser stops responding to input from the cursor, then the entire screen goes blooey!  This problem just cropped up today, although it's happened once before, but only once.
[08:45] <neil_d> Boohbah: done that. even enabled all the mic related things an unmuted them all.. the sound recorder still isn't doing anything..
[08:45] <blackcow> how do i access gparted, on the live cd or inside the OS?
[08:45] <Brazz> Boohbah: I know that page, but I believe that them who got their app to run there have already worked things out, I just simply want to know if it is necessary for me to add DirectX to get a better visual performance or if the wine's very own direct3d driver will do the trick well. Thank you.
[08:45] <mo0n_sniper> blackcow, on live cd
[08:45] <Bearshare> I was banned in ubuntu-offtopic how do I get back in
[08:45] <blackcow> ok, thank you very much
[08:45] <chip1> blackcow: i am rescuing my eeepc as we speak from a usb drive
[08:45] <legend2440> Horusofoz: can you paste your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file?
[08:45] <sblunix> blackcow: System->Administration->Partition Editor
[08:46] <sblunix> on the LiveCD only
[08:46] <blackcow> i installed eeeubuntu, but it should have gparted on the live usb
[08:46] <blackcow> thanks for your help
[08:46] <sblunix> blackcow: well, does it?
[08:46] <chip1> blackcow: or do a sudo apt-get install gparted from a normal eeeubuntu install
[08:46] <ianovich> anyone using a MSI Wind here
[08:46] <ianovich> got Kubuntu installed and wondering what to do next
[08:47] <blackcow> i would except i have 0 bytes of hard drive space lol
[08:47] <Horusofoz> legend2440: http://pastebin.com/m35b9c7ea
[08:47] <mo0n_sniper> sblunix, any ideeas?
[08:47] <blackcow> i thought i gave it 30 gigs, i dunno why it didnt work right
[08:47] <chip1> blackcow: SSDs can be weird
[08:48] <losher> blackcow: I'm guessing you dropped a zero, which is how you ended up with 3G
[08:48] <Horusofoz> legend2440: Still here - Accidentally closed :( The big resolution is very different to me
[08:49] <ksonnad> blackcow: You have 30GB to spare on a SSD?
[08:49] <ianovich> anyone know about remote x logins
[08:49] <kannan02> not able to speak in skype
[08:49] <kannan02> help please
[08:49] <DeadNed> Hi, I'm having an issue with a mp3 player i have. Windows XP will read it as a flash drive, but linux wont mount it. The system is dual booted, so i know its not a hardware issue. How do i get the driver working for it?
[08:49] <mythri> HELLO ALL PLEASE I NEED HELP ..
[08:49] <sblunix> mo0n_sniper: actually, none :( I'm not sure how System Monitor checks data, so it may not just be checking your home partition...
[08:49] <ianovich> wondering if a MSI wind is worth turning in to a X client to my main server
[08:49] <chip1> ianovich: they're a pain in the arse
[08:49] <mythri> I WANT WEBCAM AND MIC FOR MSN MESSENGER IN UBUNTU 8.04
[08:49] <sblunix> mythri: What do you need?
[08:49] <spO> after i  change my group's name from IAMELITE to user in my /etc/group file,  how do I change all the files on my system to use the new group instead of the previous one?  Are the files on my ubuntu box based on IAMELITE/user  gid , or are they name based or both?
[08:49] <mo0n_sniper> sblunix, ok
[08:50] <sblunix> mythri: FIRST OFF CAPS LOCK IS NOT NECESSARY, Second, I believe this is a google/forums question
[08:50] <mythri> :(
[08:50] <spO> sblinux, please don't be mean
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> mythri:  sorry to hear that..  You need to find an IM client that has those features
[08:50] <mythri> sblunix, my mom is online and she wants to speak
[08:50] <ziroday> mythri: you need to use a messaging client that supports such. aMSN being one.
[08:50] <spO> mythri, does your mother have hands?
[08:50] <sblunix> mythri: OK, what does she want to say?
[08:50] <mythri> i m using amsn but it doesnt support mic
[08:51] <Narada> after installing 3g dongle how to cunnect
[08:51] <spO> mythri, you ever consider getting a telephone?
[08:51] <mythri> my mother is on windows vista
[08:51] <Firefishe> anyone help me with my x server problem?
 after installing 3g dongle how to cunnect
[08:51] <sblunix> mythri: Now, is this relevant to the conversation?
[08:51] <bazhang> Bearshare, join #ubuntu-ops
[08:51] <mythri> oh ok i m sorry
 after installing 3g dongle how to cunnect
[08:51] <Elmosapien> what i want to do is: hook internet up to eth0 and feed it through to eth1 and eth2 on ubuntu server
[08:51] <mythri> i will probably check out myself
[08:52] <ianovich> wondering if a MSI wind is worth turning in to a X client to my main server/
[08:52] <elver_> somebody use the kdenlive ?
[08:52] <sblunix> mythri: If you're looking for a new webcam that's compatible with Ubuntu, try visiting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[08:52] <ianovich> anyone ever get a Nokia 3G phone to work as a modem?
 after installing 3g dongle how to cunnect plz
[08:52] <Elmosapien> what i want to do is: hook internet up to eth0 and feed it through to eth1 and eth2 on ubuntu server
[08:52] <Bearshare> hey
[08:52] <legend2440> Horusofoz: you may want to backup your  xorg.conf first. but what i would try is changing   Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0+0"  to   Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024 +0+0" and then reboot
[08:52] <Bearshare> gimme a kiss
[08:52] <spO> deluge doesn't let me connect via https unless i create a key file without a passcode, i don't understand why ic annot have a key file that has a passcode
[08:53] <Elmosapien> can anyone help
[08:53] <bazhang> Bearshare, stay on topic
[08:53] <jamieleshaw> Hello, assuming 100+3% ='s 103, what do i enter into gcalc to make it show that answer?
[08:53] <alberto> hola a todos
[08:53] <ziroday> !inetsharing | Elmosapien this should help
[08:53] <Boohbah> Elmosapien: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183994
[08:53] <Horusofoz> legend2440: Will try that. Thanks :)
[08:53] <shivek> which group owns /var/www
[08:53] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: You'd enter 100+0.03 (because 0.03 is equivalent to 3 percent)
[08:53] <kannan02> skype says audio playback has problem. i set pulse audio for 'sound in' and sound out' now i can hear audio but others cant hear me..\
[08:54] <Elmosapien> thanks
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> jamieleshaw:  100*1.03 ?
[08:54] <mo0n_sniper> hi,i have a ext3 partition of 82Gb, i have 50Gb of data on it,but the system reports "used 66Gb(i have reserved space disabled)
[08:54] <ziroday> kannan02: pulse is not correct for sound in
[08:54] <jamieleshaw> Yar, I know but how do I add percentage, I forgot my Order Of Operations :)
[08:54] <Elmosapien> i'll try those web pages
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> jamieleshaw:  use perenthsees ()
[08:54] <kannan02> ziroday:so what should i set for it
[08:54] <ziroday> kannan02: your microphone
[08:54] <jamieleshaw> Can you provide example?
[08:55] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: visit: http://tinyurl.com/pf93fw
[08:55] <mythri> i hav one more problem.. i hav deleted a folder which had some acess only files to trash can
[08:55] <th0r> maybe jamieleshaw should do his own homework <smile>
[08:55] <mythri> but now i m unable to empty the trashcan
[08:55] <kannan02> ziroday: there is only option for headset is that what u are mentioning
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> jamieleshaw:  are we doing your math Homework?
[08:55] <mythri> wat should i do
[08:56] <sblunix> th0r: you should see the link I sent him.
[08:56] <jamieleshaw> I forgot.
[08:56] <ziroday> kannan02: sure
[08:56] <kannan02> for sound out can i use pulse audio
[08:56] <jamieleshaw> please provide example.
[08:56] <jamieleshaw> I'll give you 10 dollars of at jambocentral.com
[08:56] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: example of what exactly?
[08:57] <jamieleshaw> How I add percentage.
[08:57] <kannan02> ziroday:can i set pulse audio for sound out..
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> jamieleshaw:  you Mutiply it by 100+x%
[08:57] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: This link explains it perfectly: http://tinyurl.com/ljn7wt
[08:57] <ziroday> kannan02: that is fine
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> http://www.pdfoo.com/result-mathematics-for-dummies.html
[08:58] <sblunix> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+add+percentages+with+examples.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> http://go.do.your.own.homework.com :)
[08:59] <Boohbah> http://why.cant.i.just.link.to.google.com/
[08:59] <kannan02> ziroday:thank u
[08:59] <sblunix> Boohbah: because.lmgtfy.com.is.funnier.com
[08:59] <jamieleshaw> I forgot, because i normally use Windows Calculator
[08:59] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: it's not really THAT different :\
[09:00] <legend2440> mythri: in terminal type   sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> E=M*(C^2)
[09:00] <jamieleshaw> In window calc i type 100+3%, and get my answer, about the only useful thing it does
[09:01] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: Let's use logic here: 3% of 100 is what?.... T3, right... 100 plus 3 is... 103, right... buhbye now.
[09:01] <spO> how do i change all the files and direcotries that match a gid to another gid?  (ie, change all files with group IAMLAMER to group IAMELITE )  .... (i don't have IAMLAMER group in my group file anymore, i deleted that gid)
[09:01] <Slart> ahem... #ubuntu.. about ubuntu.. the operating system... topic.. off..
[09:01] <jamieleshaw> I'm not stupid, I just wanted the algorith(ok, maybe a little dumb)
[09:01] <kannan02> ziroday:hey it says problem with audio capture
[09:01] <sblunix> do you have any ubuntu related questions?
[09:02] <mythri> legend2440, wher is terminal i m sorry i m lame in ubuntu
[09:02] <ziroday> kannan02: does your microphone with the sound recorder?
[09:02] <jetscreamer> qalculate
[09:02] <sblunix> mythri: Applications->Accessories->Terminal"
[09:02] <Mart||n> so u goitjng to re precreate a file guid
[09:02] <Mart||n> and the system know already bout the  guid
[09:02] <jetscreamer> !info qalculate
[09:02] <Mart||n> so it can see it
[09:02] <legend2440> mythri: Applications>Accessories>Yerminal
[09:02] <Mart||n> for the right octet number
[09:02] <legend2440> mythri: Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[09:02] <kannan02> ziroday:when i try it in my virtual xp it worked fine
[09:02] <jamieleshaw> Yes, i have an ubuntu related question, are there any new srceenshots of GNOME 3
[09:03] <ziroday> kannan02: then select a different setting
[09:03] <jetscreamer> chmod works for gid iirc i forget though
[09:03] <sblunix> jamieleshaw: My answer is: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=New+Screenshots+of+GNOME+3
[09:03] <bullgard> Firefox 3.0.13 forgot its bookmarks. On my Ubuntu 9.04 computer there are 4 .json files though. Only the newest seems to be broken  as 'Search for Files' reports its Type=unknow. Bookmarks > Organize Bookmarks > (Library) > Import and Backup > Restore reports: "Unable to process the backup file". How to troubleshoot?
[09:03] <Mart||n> thers a new  desktop theme called  gnome 3
[09:03] <sblunix> God people, visit google before #ubuntu IRC please?
[09:03] <Mart||n> thoguth they would go back to 3.1
[09:04] <kannan02> ziroday:hey ur name is displaying in redcolor y?
[09:04] <jamieleshaw> Ubuntu IRC channel is very useful for your information.
[09:04] <ziroday> kannan02: because I've highlighted you (I put your name in my response)
[09:04] <Mart||n> can u actually give a yahoo image of teh screen shot or maby a gnome support aff site
[09:04] <mythri> legend2440, wat is sudo password?
[09:05] <kannan02> ziroday: thank you...
[09:05] <Mart||n> it so u do comand
[09:05] <Mart||n> if u was teh admin
[09:05] <Mart||n> or knew what u was doing
[09:05] <Mart||n> or such like
[09:05] <mythri> legend2440, thanks u rock :)
[09:05] <mythri> its gone
[09:05] <legend2440> mythri: its aking for the user password you entered when you installed  Ubuntu
[09:05] <Mart||n> adn ...it means SO U KNOW WHAT U DOING TYPE  COMMANd
[09:05] <Mart||n> stick ur own passswrod in
[09:06] <Mart||n> and it will either grant u access or not
[09:06] <Mart||n> if not try password again
[09:06] <legend2440> mythri: ok good
[09:06] <mythri> legend2440, got it..thanks \m/
[09:06] <jamieleshaw> Are you talking ro me?
[09:06] <Slart> !who
[09:06] <sblunix> Oh the spelling mistakes! Oh the spelling mistakes!
[09:06] <legend2440> mythri: your welcome
[09:06]  * sblunix dies due to OCD & Many spelling mistakes
[09:06] <mythri> :)
[09:06] <Bearshare> who here likes Beavis and Butthead
[09:07] <Mart||n> well if the  channel was going more then 10 words in ten seconds i would
[09:07] <Slart> Bearshare: probably many of the people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <Mart||n> but cosidering there is max fo 4 ppl talking
[09:07] <Horusofoz> legend2440: Rebooting now - Wish me luck :)
[09:07] <Mart||n> if there is some other convo going on that i didnt see
[09:07] <Mart||n> it jsut  that problem
[09:07] <Bearshare> #ubuntu-ops
[09:07] <Mart||n> and i was  talking to a previous guy  before
[09:07] <Mart||n> e.g he knows that  and u two shold knwo i am talkin bout ur problem
[09:07] <Slart> Mart||n: try typing !enter .. the bot has some good information for you
[09:07] <kannan02> ziroday:what is hdmi
[09:08] <ziroday> kannan02: its a type of A/V connection
[09:08] <Mart||n> hdmi is a super good tv  lead
[09:08] <Mart||n> it only support on HDMI interfaces
[09:08] <Mart||n> e.g  huge 3x teh size usb soctek
[09:08] <Bearshare> I was banned in #ubuntu-offtopic, how do I get back in
[09:08] <Mart||n> ask owner of room
[09:08] <Mart||n> or owner of bot
[09:08] <Mart||n> that banned u
[09:08] <sblunix> Bearshare, why were you banned? Otherwise, make friends with the right people...
[09:08] <jamieleshaw> What did you do?
[09:09] <kannan02> ziroday:is it related to headphone and mic
[09:09] <Bearshare> I was banned for abusing people
[09:09] <ziroday> kannan02: not really
[09:09] <Bearshare> why else
[09:09] <Mart||n> what is related to headphone and mic
[09:09] <sblunix> Bearshare: what type of abuse, sexual?
[09:09] <jamieleshaw> Bearshare: Why do you exspect to get back in then?
[09:09] <Mart||n> oh
[09:09] <Mart||n> right
[09:09] <Mart||n> i get ya
[09:09] <Slart> Bearshare: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[09:09] <Slart> !enter | Mart||n
[09:09] <Mart||n> please help me
[09:09] <Bearshare> sexual, physical, mental and emotional abuse
[09:09] <Bearshare> as well as spiritual to one person
[09:10] <Bearshare> jamieleshaw, because its my right
[09:10] <Mart||n> lol
[09:10] <Mart||n> hehe
[09:10] <Mart||n> see that  screw up in that code
[09:10] <Mart||n> lol
[09:10] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <Mart||n> do it again
[09:10] <Mart||n> dam
[09:10] <honey^moon> zali
[09:10] <jamieleshaw> Thank you bot
[09:10] <Bearshare> what did he do
[09:11] <jamieleshaw> Dool
[09:11] <honey^moon> apa.....?
[09:11] <Mart||n> !enter hello
[09:11] <jamieleshaw> Bearshare: I thought you were banned.
[09:11] <mo0n_sniper> hi,i have a ext3 partition of 82Gb, i have 50Gb of data on it,but the system reports "used 66Gb(i have reserved space disabled)
[09:11] <Mart||n> !enter what is a  gline
[09:11] <Mart||n> !ENTER!enter
[09:11] <Slart> !botabuse | Mart||n
[09:11] <Bearshare> Why would I be banned Jamieleshaw
[09:11] <Slart> Bearshare: ask in #ubuntu-ops .. not here..
[09:11] <Mart||n> im interested in why it showed !enter
[09:12] <Mart||n> !enter
[09:12] <sblunix> !enter Mart||n
[09:12] <sblunix> !enter
[09:12] <sblunix> nvmd :(
[09:12] <Slart> !bot
[09:12] <Mart||n> !enter my home
[09:12] <Slart> go to that link and check it out.. DONT do it in here
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !bot | Mart||n
[09:13] <Bearshare> !enter why was I banned from #ubuntu-offline
[09:13] <Mart||n> ok so i  only presse enter once that would be acceptable fora  full  sentcne
[09:13] <Slart> !ops | Bearshare
[09:13] <Mart||n> or a reply
[09:13] <Bearshare> slart what did I do tattle tale?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Bearshare:   being off topic in the off topic channel?
[09:13] <Slart> Bearshare: you were asked several times to ask in #ubuntu-ops about the ban...
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:13] <jamieleshaw> Bearshare: Your in trouble with ops now.
[09:13] <Mart||n> !bye Fart
[09:13] <Bearshare> I am in #ubuntu-ops
[09:13] <spO> are any of you able to install fglrx/ati drivers or whatever display drivers you have on a custom kernel?
[09:14] <Bearshare> everyone is asleep jamieleshaw
[09:14] <Mart||n> ye i am
[09:14] <Bearshare> slart smells like fart
[09:14] <Mart||n> usually use nvida or intel tho
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> spO:  custome kernel would mean you need touse the installers from the ati.com site i imagine.
[09:14] <Slart> Bearshare: then ask in that channel.. not here..
[09:14] <jamieleshaw> Where are the ops?
[09:14] <Mart||n> but ati are faily similar if u lok for  faster gfx then default fb ones
[09:14] <sblunix> limhq, this is depressing...
[09:14] <Bearshare> asleep I just told you
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> jamieleshaw:  its 4 am usa time.. SO sleeping perhaps?
[09:15] <mikubuntu> hey guys ... i went to synaptic and thought i installed firefox 3.5, but i just did a version check in the terminal and says i'm still running 3.0.13, what could be the problem?
[09:15] <Bearshare> jamieleshaw, take the wax out of your ears
[09:15] <kannan02> ziroday:whn i write cd's using brasero after completing one cycle it again starts writing same on that cd how to stop this loop?
[09:15] <Mart||n> no erm Envy does teh installation on ...after kernel
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  ff 3.5 is NOT called 'firefox' in the menus or command line.
[09:15] <ziroday> mikubuntu: you want to run Shiretoko
[09:15] <Mart||n> but he was talking bout  kernel
[09:15] <Mart||n> e.g maybe u needa module
[09:15] <jamieleshaw> Sorrym i thought there were more than one.
[09:15] <kannan02> ziroday:i'm using 9.04
[09:15] <Bearshare> slart eats fart
[09:15] <Slart> Bearshare: that just means you will have to ask again in that channel.. it doesn't mean it somehow becomes ok to go on about it in this channel
[09:15] <jamieleshaw> Of which there are.
[09:15] <ziroday> kannan02: no idea sorry
[09:15] <Mart||n> enable or to turn off   unomduled  ati drive
[09:15] <Bearshare> Shut up slart
[09:16] <mikubuntu> Dr_Willis: ?? so....?
[09:16] <Illiaan> heyho :)
[09:16] <mikubuntu> ziroday, whatis shirotoko?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  its not called 'firefox' its called 'shirtko'or whatever its spelt...
[09:16] <jamieleshaw> When i called for op one other time at this time, they were here staright away.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> !ff3.5 | mikubuntu
[09:16] <DaZ-> mikubuntu: firefox 3.5
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  the command is shiretoko
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> mikubuntu:  the command is shiretoko = FF3.5
[09:17] <DaZ-> srsly? :F
[09:17] <DaZ-> i heard it was firefox-3.5 <:
[09:17] <mikubuntu> oooooOOOOOOhhhhhh
[09:17] <ziroday> Dr_Willis: err the command is firefox-3.5
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> DaZ-:  thats the PACKAGE anme
[09:17] <ziroday> (in the terminal anyway)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> so it is.. :) lol
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> the factoid is a little vague on that.
[09:17] <sblunix> do aptitude links work in here?
[09:17] <sblunix> apt:firefox
[09:17] <sblunix> nope :(
[09:18] <sblunix> /apt:firefox
[09:18] <FloodBot3> sblunix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <mikubuntu> sokay, i just lookd and siretodo is in the menu     dOH!
[09:18] <sblunix> my bad floodbot, forgive me :(
[09:18] <Slart> sblunix: nope.. you've got !info for package information
[09:18] <ziroday> sblunix: you might want to test elsewhere, like ##test
[09:18] <Mart||n> ok second drive would install no problems with out prior  formatting
[09:18] <iziezal> i have no sound. im new to linux. can anyone help?
[09:18] <Mart||n> but u will maybe need to reestore ur grub loader
[09:18] <Boohbah> sblunix: maybe you can modify ubottu to understand them :)
[09:18] <Mart||n> after isntalling widow to second drive
[09:18] <Elmosapien> cya'
[09:18] <mikubuntu> iziezal, you might also want to join #alsa
[09:18] <Mart||n> ubuntu  will autodetect if u run the right sugggest package in here
[09:19] <Boohbah> sblunix: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[09:19] <jamieleshaw> Have you checked sound settings under System>Preferences>Sound
[09:19] <spO> nvidia proabbyl has better driver support than ati
[09:19] <Mart||n> i ahve problems with mic in linux
[09:19] <iziezal> mikubuntu, thanks. is there anyone in here that can help?
[09:19] <spO> ie, it works better
[09:19] <Mart||n> but it does work if u disable  pulse
[09:19] <Mart||n> well i alwasy do that first
[09:19] <Mart||n> never bothere turnign it back on after wards
[09:19] <Slart> !enter
[09:19] <Boohbah> sblunix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#ubottu%20family
[09:20] <Mart||n> and sometimes i have to re add my self to the audi o group
[09:20] <Mart||n> or allow me group access on teh  /dev/dsp
[09:20] <Mart||n> /dev/audio
[09:20] <tsimpson> !info firefox
[09:20] <tsimpson> sblunix: ^
[09:20] <Mart||n> do u have a problem wiht me   typing a sentce before i screwed teh rest of it up
[09:20] <spO> deluge doesn't let me connect via https unless i create a key file without a passcode, i don't understand why ic annot have a key file that has a passcode.... do any of you use deluge https with a passcode set for your server key file?
[09:20] <sblunix> why am I clicking the link?
[09:20] <sblunix> because I apologized to the FloodBot?
[09:20] <Mart||n> with the frigging mouse bpad as u can see long secentenceon this laptop is fairly hard are fast speed
[09:21] <Mart||n> so it easier for me to  type when there is a puase inthe  speaking
[09:21] <Mart||n> and hope ppl will w8 too see if teh convo  of someoen like me  with a crap laptop  needs that spare second to press enter to finish the dialog of 4 lines
[09:21] <Brazz> you know when you go into "Applications>Add/Remove" there is a section of  games, is there a webpage that I can have access to that list instead of taking a loot only through that Add/Remove manager?
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> i got my laptop configured where it disables the touchpad when i type. :)
[09:22] <Mart||n> but as a bot dont make  classic human errs like a  mouse shift
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Brazz:  you may want to use the synaptic package manager also. to see a larger list of avail games.
[09:22] <Boohbah> Mart||n: or you can use pgup/pgdn keys to scroll the buffer...
[09:22] <Mart||n> ye i can
[09:22] <sblunix> Ahh, my foot fell asleep!
[09:22] <Brazz> Dr_Willis: thank you
[09:22] <sblunix> Pins & Needles, Pins & Needles! :(
[09:22] <Mart||n> but if i am switch between a windows  emulator and a irc client it hard to diasble mouse usage without using a second mouse
[09:22] <Mart||n> or keyboard
[09:22] <Mart||n> e.g for 5 ppl to use one pc in  vm
[09:24] <Boohbah> Mart||n: so, what are you rambling on about? this channel is not intended for your free-form poetry, but for ubuntu support. do you have a particular question about ubuntu?
[09:24]  * Dr_Willis is now totally confused by Mart||n .....
[09:24]  * Boohbah too
[09:24] <DeadNed> I figured out how to read the mp3 player. thanks guys for your help
[09:25] <punkrockergul> does anyone use ekiga?
[09:25] <Slart> punkrockergul: yes
[09:25] <Boohbah> punkrockergul: yes
[09:25] <Mart||n> mount /dev/sd[tabkey] last letter then the first number
[09:25] <punkrockergul> is it free pc to pc calls?
[09:25] <Mart||n> then ENTER
[09:25] <punkrockergul> and the cam?
[09:25] <Mart||n> sorry put /mnt on the frigging end
[09:25] <Mart||n> and it will mount in /mnt
[09:25] <Flannel> Mart||n: What's your question?
[09:26] <Slart> punkrockergul: yes.. it's free for pc to pc.. just like skype
[09:26] <Slart> punkrockergul: I'm not sure about video support though.. I haven't tried it in a while
[09:26] <punkrockergul> Slart is it working on windows?
[09:27] <Boohbah> punkrockergul: yes, with an ekiga.net account, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
[09:27] <GreenDelta2> i try to run OpenGL in an c++ application, but he says he cant find GL/gl.h
[09:27] <GreenDelta2> although i added the gl-libs as compiler flag
[09:27] <punkrockergul> Boohbah, thanks
[09:27] <Slart> punkrockergul: check their site http://ekiga.org/ .. I think there is a windows client
[09:28] <dreamkeeper2> Where may I find error output for x?
[09:28] <Flannel> Slart, punkrockergul: Netmeeting is a windows client, if ekiga itself doesn't have one.
[09:28] <zeltak> hi again, anyone know how to add languages to the gnome spell checker (other than english)
[09:28] <punkrockergul> Slart, thanks
[09:28] <Slart> GreenDelta2: do you have the opengl development files installed?
[09:28] <GreenDelta2> Slart: not that i know...
[09:28] <Slart> dreamkeeper2: for X starting up.. with video resolutions and such see /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:29] <Boohbah> GreenDelta2: sudo apt-cache search opengl |grep dev
[09:29] <DigitalDarkness> Evening Everyone, I noticed today that OpenSuSE team is working on a "build-a-bear" distro thing on the web where you build and customize your own distro? Has there been any talks about ubuntu trying anything like this out?
[09:29] <Boohbah> GreenDelta2: probably need to install some opengl dev libs
[09:29] <dreamkeeper2> Slart: I have problems with x doing weird things with my browser.  I've switched to gnome from kde but something is still wrong.  I'm using the nvidia proprietary driver (180.44).
[09:30] <dreamkeeper2> Slart: It just started doing this tonight, out of the blue.
[09:30] <Flannel> DigitalDarkness: I havent heard anything about it.  Although #ubuntu-devel might be a better place to ask.
[09:30] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: did you remove the gnome packages?
[09:30] <[[thufir]]> how do you find out what kind of cpu you have?
[09:30] <Boohbah> [[thufir]]: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:30] <DigitalDarkness> kk thanks :-)
[09:30] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Umm...no.  I haven't removed anything.
[09:31] <GreenDelta2> Boohbah: it gets me thousands of pacakges...
[09:31] <Slart> GreenDelta2: I'm not really sure what installs those header files.. searching around didn't give me any good results.. sorry
[09:31] <ibuclaw> GreenDelta2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=include%2FGL%2Fgl.h
[09:31] <Slart> dreamkeeper2: what do you mean "weird things" ?
[09:31] <ibuclaw> GreenDelta2, install either: mesa-common-dev, nvidia-glx-173-dev, nvidia-glx-180-dev, nvidia-glx-71-dev or nvidia-glx-96-dev
[09:31] <ibuclaw> doesn't matter which one
[09:31] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: try removing gnome packages, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[09:32] <ibuclaw> GreenDelta2, although if you are using nvidia driver, I'd recommend going for the corresponding -dev package
[09:32] <GreenDelta2> ibuclaw: many thanks, i hope it works now
[09:32] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: I have no desire for removing gnome packages.  They've gotten along fine up to now, and some things are dependent on them, so no.l
[09:32] <dreamkeeper2> - l
[09:32] <ubu_> halo!
[09:33] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: besides, I enjoy using both desktops...
[09:33] <ibuclaw> ubu_, hi, how can we help you today?
[09:33] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: ok
[09:33] <ubu_> mak ktoś sposób jak zamknąć ubuntu ?
[09:33] <mrphoenix> hi
[09:33] <Flannel> !pl | ubu_
[09:33] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Let me ask you this:  Can a very large background image cause the x server to go gah gah, or kde 4's compositing engine to go blooey?
[09:34] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: how large? what does your memory usage look like?
[09:34] <ubu_> shutdown ubuntu were?help hardwari and intel 945 ;(
[09:35] <GreenDelta2> ibuclaw: now he finds GL/gl.h but hes still missing this one: GL/glu.h: No such file or directory
[09:35] <ibuclaw> GreenDelta2, libglu1-mesa-dev
[09:35] <Slart> !info libglu1-mesa-dev
[09:35] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Memory useage is light.  I'm showing about 385MB of 3GB in use.
[09:35] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: No swap at all
[09:35] <reves> does anybody know if its possible to run a twinview X session with both monitors rotated into portrait?
[09:35] <reves> the nvidia frontend doesnt support even basic rotation
[09:36] <reves> so i suppose it would have to be done thru xorg.conf
[09:36] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Also, this laptop has an Nvidia 9800GS chipset with half a gigabyte (512mb) of dedicated VRAM--which is why I'm using the proprietary module (or driver, if you prefer.)
[09:36] <GreenDelta2> ibuclaw: noooow it works :) *fiiiine*
[09:36] <ubu_> hev lang polish ?
[09:36] <ibuclaw> GreenDelta2, awesome :)
[09:37] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: please elaborate on the weird things going on with your browser
[09:37] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: and did the problem occur after you changed something?
[09:38] <ibuclaw> reves,you have 2 graphics cards?
[09:38] <iziezal> i have no sound. im new to linux. can anyone help?
[09:38] <Narada>  3g modam internet cant cunncet
[09:38] <reves> yes i do ibuclaw
[09:38] <ortsvorsteher> !sounf | iziezal
[09:38] <Narada> i instaled it
[09:38] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: I'll have firefox up and running, and suddenly I'll have no screen input.  Then, after a few seconds, the entire desktop starts artifacting.  It looks like it's trying to render the analog clock widget (gadget, whatevah) many times, but it's not just limited to that.
[09:38] <ortsvorsteher> !sound | iziezal
[09:38] <Narada> how to run
[09:38] <jetscreamer> fff
[09:38] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: As to the 2nd question, no.
[09:39] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Thanks for your help, btw.
[09:39] <Narada> how to cunnect 3g modam
[09:39] <Narada> how to cunnect 3g modame
[09:39] <Narada> hellp
[09:39] <Narada> pze help me how to cunnect 3g modam
[09:39] <iziezal> double clicking on the volume control mutes the volume
[09:39] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: np. it's likely to do with your card/drivers but i haven't used nvidia for a while so i won't be much help there.
[09:39] <ibuclaw> reves, to setup twinview, you firstly need to put in BUSID of one of the cards into the xorg.conf file. Then you should be able to use nvidia-xsettings for the rest.
[09:39] <ortsvorsteher> !please | Narada
[09:40] <ibuclaw> bleh, I mean nvidia-settings
[09:40] <Narada> please help me
[09:40] <Boohbah> Narada: if you provide more details about the hardware and the configuration steps you have already taken then someone will be more likely to help
[09:40] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Narada
[09:41] <punkrockergul> any swine flu cases in ur places ? :P
[09:41] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Thanks, anyway.  I'll play around with it.  One other thing.  How do I change the display manager?  I want to switch to kdm and see if that makes a difference.
[09:41] <Pirate_Hunter> can i use linux server kernel on an AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor if so which one?
[09:41] <Narada> ok
[09:41] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Oh, incidentally:   Ubuntu/Kubuntu 9.04
[09:41] <reves> ibuclaw:  i already have both cards setup. each cartd is running its own twinview session (4 monitors in total). but one card's twinview session, i want to flip into portrait... along with both monitors running on that card
[09:41] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: 'sudo dppkg-reconfigure kdm' might work
[09:42] <reves> if this isnt possible its a major let down
[09:42] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: err, dpkg
[09:42] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: I tried that, it said that kdm wouldn't be started as it wasn't the default display manager.
[09:42] <Qu4R0w> how can see who connected with my wireless??except using kismet that make my wireless turn into monitor mode :(
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> reves:  check out the 'xrandr' commandyet?
[09:43] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: i should stop trying to do ubuntu dekstop support without an actual ubuntu desktop in front of me :)
[09:43] <ziroday> Qu4R0w: you can see that by accessing your routers configuration page. Take a look through your routers manual or flash it with custom firmware
[09:43] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: I've also tried:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg .  All that did was reset my x server to the standard drivers.
[09:43] <reves> not yet. i will now.   does xrandr have capabilities for rotating a twinview session?
[09:43] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Oh, you're doing fine :).  And I appreciate it.
[09:43] <reves> Dr_Willis: not yet. i will now.   does xrandr have capabilities for rotating a twinview session?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> reves:  it has a lot of features. it can do rotateing. but not sure how that works with twinview.
[09:43] <Qu4R0w> ziroday: can i see by in my terminal or tool/script?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> reves:   i just make it rotate so i can read my comic books better :P
[09:44] <Narada> i run ubuntu 9.4 and i used 3g dongle to cunnect internet.when i plug it lt will install atomaticaly.now i am use wareless internet cunnection.now want to disscunnect warelass and cunnect through 3g dongle.please help me
[09:44] <reves> hmm okay ...    i suspect its gonna be impossible. but i will look it up
[09:44] <ziroday> Qu4R0w: not unless you put your wireless card in monitor mode, or you could use nmap and scan everyone on your LAN
[09:44] <sblunix> OH god the spelling mistakes they hurt!
[09:44]  * sblunix dies due to OCD and spelling mistakes
[09:44] <Qu4R0w> please look at my script..i want set my own mac adress and ip by running that script(after i see mac and ip on kismet)
[09:44] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: should be able to select the default display manager in dpkg-rconfigure kdm, are you sure?
[09:44] <Narada> please help me
[09:45] <sblunix> Qu4R0w: You can't really set you're own MAC address...
[09:45] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: wish i'd brought the ubuntu laptop today :)
[09:45] <Qu4R0w> ziroday: nmap -sP??it show all host up..
[09:45] <Boohbah> Narada: if it installed automatically, do you see an interface in NetworkManager?
[09:45] <Qu4R0w> sblunix: i can change with macchanger..it working on my hotspot
[09:45] <sblunix> Oh...
[09:46] <sblunix> well then
[09:46] <sblunix> good 4 u! :D
[09:46] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Well, that did it.  I did it from gnome-terminal in X.  When I tried it originally, I was in a full terminal session on another tty
[09:46] <Qu4R0w> or have tool same work as netcut for ubuntu?
[09:46] <Boohbah> Qu4R0w: netcat?
[09:46] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: I guess that made the difference. I selected kdm for the next boot up.
[09:46] <sblunix> so does anybody like, need help or anything, or is this all covered?
[09:46] <Boohbah> dreamkeeper2: excellent
[09:46] <Qu4R0w> Boohbah: netcut(in windows)
[09:46] <ibuclaw> reves, ohh... I see now
[09:46] <ziroday> Qu4R0w: hmm?
[09:46] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me figure out the type of server kernel/image to use on an old compaq presario 5410, because the latest server kernel stops the machine from booting since it doesnt provide function 0:6 0:15
[09:46] <ibuclaw> screen rotation ...
[09:47] <Boohbah> Qu4R0w: hmm never heard of it, i'll read up
[09:47] <Qu4R0w> netcut=easy to see ip and mac adress
[09:47] <dreamkeeper2> Boohbah: Thanks for the help.  I should be okay from here.  I'm probably going to tailor down my background image a bit...nice pic, too, of a purple sunset on a Michigan lake I used to boat on.
[09:47] <Narada> Boohbah : yes it is in netwark cunnection
[09:47] <Qu4R0w> in linux,i wun know what tool can work as netcut
[09:47] <Narada> but how to activate
[09:48] <Narada> where is the netwarak manaker
[09:48] <ortsvorsteher> Qu4R0w: use ifconfig in an terminal
[09:48] <sblunix> Narada: Network is spelled: Network.
[09:48] <Qu4R0w> ortsvorsteher: ifconfig can see all ip and mac adress who connected to my wireless?
[09:48] <Narada> where is the network manager
[09:48] <emcpn> #ubuntu-gr
[09:48] <dreamkeeper2> We seem to have an extravagant amount of spelling and punctuation errors, tonight, sblunix.  *hurts eyes* ;)
[09:48] <dreamkeeper2> Well, I'm off like a prom dress, have to reboot.
[09:48] <dreamkeeper2> Thanks again all
[09:48] <ortsvorsteher> Qu4R0w: no, only the local nic's on you computer
[09:48] <Qu4R0w> or how can i save kismet scanning result?
[09:49] <sblunix> "Off like a prom dress"?
[09:49] <Boohbah> Qu4R0w: nmap can detect MAC addresses
[09:49] <sblunix> lol, fricken hilarious
[09:49] <Qu4R0w> ortsvorsteher: owh..
[09:49] <Qu4R0w> Boohbah: i run nmap n it show all up=up..
 <Narada> i run ubuntu 9.4 and i used 3g dongle to cunnect internet.when i plug it lt will install atomaticaly.now i am use wareless internet cunnection.now want to disscunnect warelass and cunnect through 3g dongle.please help me
[09:50] <sblunix> u am use wareless internet cunnection?
[09:50] <Boohbah> Qu4R0w: if you're just doing a ping scan, you need to modify the flags
[09:50] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me figure out the type of server kernel/image to use on an old compaq presario 5410, because the latest server kernel stops the machine from booting since it doesnt provide function 0:6 0:15
[09:50] <Boohbah> Narada: it should be on the top right of your screen
[09:50] <majnoon> ok what do i need to do to reset gnome so i can use it ??
[09:50] <Boohbah> Pirate_Hunter: what cpu?
[09:51] <sblunix> Oh noes this is terrible
[09:51] <Boohbah> majnoon: what do you mean?
[09:51] <ibuclaw> reves, looks like it is possible. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1125400&highlight=Setting%20up%20Twin%20Graphics%20Cards
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> majnoon:  gnome settings are stored in .gnome* and .gconf* i recall.. if you want to move/delet/reset ALL settings ya could move those dirs/files
[09:51] <Boohbah> majnoon: did you do something to break gnome?
[09:51] <ibuclaw> whoops, ignore that link reves
[09:51] <Narada> boohhah : cant see it in top right
[09:51] <Narada> only warelass
[09:52] <sblunix> what is this "warelass" you speak of!?
[09:52] <ibuclaw> reves, http://fixunix.com/x/19763-dual-display-rotation-gnome-xf86config-4-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-under-ubuntu-debian-linux.html
[09:52] <Narada> wireless
[09:52] <Narada> sorry
[09:52] <Boohbah> Narada: can you right click on the wireless and get a list of available network interfaces? can you pastebin the output of 'sudo ifconfig -a' ?
[09:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Boohbah,  AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
[09:53] <ibuclaw> reves, two points of interest:  1) in Section "ServerFlags", you put in Option "RandR" "0" # to enable rotation
[09:53] <ibuclaw> oh, he went ...
[09:53] <sblunix> Hey somaly What's up?
[09:53] <arquebus> Pirate Hunter- you should check out DSL linux, its meant to run on old CPUs
[09:53] <somaly> what is the best way to get acrobat
[09:53] <Boohbah> Pirate_Hunter: probably best compiling your own kernel
[09:54] <Boohbah> Pirate_Hunter: as that arch has some weirdness
[09:54] <ortsvorsteher> somaly: download it.
[09:54] <ortsvorsteher> !details | somaly
[09:54] <sblunix> Pirate_Hunter: Or if DSL linux isn't nice enough for you, Look into Puppy Linux, it's also quite small
[09:54] <somaly> from medibuntu or adobe?
[09:55] <somaly> I was following this: http://www.mashedarticles.com/linux/howto-make-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-jackalope-multimedia-ready/
[09:55] <Pirate_Hunter> sblunix, i want ubuntu tried dsl and puppy they are good but i want ubuntu
[09:55] <sblunix> somaly: first you need to install medibuntu using this code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253564/
[09:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Boohbah, how would i go about doing so?
[09:55] <sblunix> apt://acroread
[09:56] <acalvo> if when I run the route command, it takes so long, what could it be? (trying to resolve DNS problems)
[09:56] <Boohbah> Pirate_Hunter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[09:56] <punkrockergul> can someone tell me how to operate ekiga?
[09:57] <dragonrigs> punkrock: i dont trust ekiga
[09:57] <Boohbah> punkrockergul: if you don't have a SIP server setup, signup for ekiga.net account
[09:57] <sblunix> punkrockergul: http://ekiga.org/index.php?rub=3
[09:57] <coens> ya des francai
[09:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Boohbah, are you sure I can't just use one of the kernels provided on update i know that linux ser 2.6.24 and onwards will lock the system howerver 2.6.19 wont whch is what it has by defualt even knowing it is generic i wish to change it to server but scared it might lock the system
[09:57] <dragonrigs>  punkrockergul: i dont trust it
[09:57] <dragonrigs>  punkrockergul: use skype
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  the 'server' kernels hae special enabled features  for server type cpus - that may be your whole issue
[09:58] <dragonrigs> :P
[09:58] <sblunix> !bots
[09:58] <punkrockergul> Boohbah, thanks
[09:58] <dragonrigs> does anyone know when the new ubuntu is comming out
[09:58] <Slart> !fr | coens
[09:58] <somaly> but  get this error: E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[09:58] <Slart> !karmic | dragonrigs
[09:58] <punkrockergul> dragonrigs, skype takes lot of memory
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  when its done...
[09:59] <iziezal> i have no sound. im new to linux. can anyone help? i went to system>preferences>sound and kept selecting 'devices' and clicking 'test' until i hears a sound. i hear a sound but i dont hear any sound when i play videos on youtube or 'vlc player'
[09:59] <myself> so is Shiretoko still beta idk
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  it will be 9.10 - thats the 10th month of 2009 :)
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> myself:  ive not had any issuew with  it.
[09:59] <myself> is it
[09:59] <reves> just to let those interested know... i figured out my twinview portrait rotation issue. if anybody needs support in this area... let me know
[09:59] <myself> still beta though
[09:59] <myself> im wondering
[09:59] <ibuclaw> myself, why Shiretoko ?
[09:59] <myself> i use it all the time
[09:59] <dragonrigs> oh ubuntu is quite smart
[09:59] <FloodBot3> myself: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> myself:  testing out the google Chrome also
[09:59] <somaly> Must be something wrong with  medibuntu. I have the sources and the keyring
[09:59] <dragonrigs> ;)
[10:00] <myself> is Shiretoko still in beta? thats what im asking
[10:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, awww so that could be the issue with components 0:6 0:15 (which dont help much in pinpointing the problem)
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> myself:  no. its just the code name for the 3.5 release.. so i think its out of 'beta'
[10:00] <c0p3rn1c> how would I make the following statement work ? "gksudo eject /media/Mass memory". There is a problem with the space between "Mass memory"
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  yes.. I dontknow why you are so determined to have a 'server' kernel - when the other one works..
[10:00] <shah16> I always get the error 'gtalk0 Network error' while signing into gtalk from EMPATHY, i'm really not able to figureout what the problem is.. my requirment is to have a voice chat with gtalk userswhat might be the problem in empathy?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  ive heard of other similer issues whth people usingthe 'server' install on  some hardware.
[10:00] <sblunix> !medibuntu is A repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons. Downloadable By Entering http://paste.ubuntu.com/253564/ into the terminal
[10:01] <myself> does anyone know how to make shiretoko my default browser?
[10:01] <myself> i still have shit linked to firefox
[10:01] <dragonrigs>  punkrockergul: if you use windows it will distroy your computer. Ekiga and SIP acounts i dont trust. If you want to do it BE my guest
[10:01] <myself> and someone told me that its unwise to uninstall firefox because of dependancies??
[10:01] <myself> but i want to just have shiretoko and not firefox (which is like 3.0 something)
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> myself:  personally.. i dont bother changing the defaults..
[10:01] <dragonrigs> myself: easy
[10:01] <punkrockergul> Dragnslcr, :)
[10:02] <shah16> or can anyone plz provide a solution of voice chat with gtalk users
[10:02] <Slart> !shiretoko | myself
[10:03] <mostafa> hello there I have a problem when I restart or shutdown it doesn't do them normally  it stops at the black screen says "will now restart" or "will now halt"
[10:03] <Slart> myself: I've seen some webpages claiming it's possible to remove the 3.0 firefox and replacing it with 3.5 but I'm not sure if it's easy or if upgrades work after that
[10:03] <coens> ubuntu.fr
[10:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, i just dont get if the image keeps getting updated would it be compatible with old hardware and i aint too sure why myself since this comp will just stay in a corner acting as backup
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  just pin the kernel version that works i guess.
[10:04] <elver_> !ping
[10:04] <elver_> lol
[10:04] <gome> hi
[10:05] <mostafa> hello there I have a problem when I restart or shutdown it doesn't do them normally  it stops at the black screen says "will now restart" or "will now halt"
[10:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, just out of curiosity doesnt server perform smoother than generic kernel specially if you aint using X
[10:05] <Lama_chok> i have ubuntu installed in my laptop... I wanna make it a dual boot with xp... so i just need to boot it with xp cd..Right???
[10:05] <mostafa> plz help
[10:05] <gome> i need a little help...
[10:05] <sblunix> Lama_chok: Hold On a second and I'll load up a guide for you
[10:05] <Lama_chok> Do i have to take care of boot sequence or grub...
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  i doubt if you will notice any diffeance.
[10:06] <Quarterstaff> I removed firefox 3.0 through synaptic after installing shiretoko
[10:06] <abrandt> how do I get the wireless applet back onto the panel? I did the remove from panel on accident but dont see it in the the add to panel section
[10:06] <sblunix> Lama_chock: This guide should help tremendously: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[10:06] <gome> i instaled wine, than i can't get my scripts running, witch command i have to use to have it running as default again?
[10:06] <Slart> abrandt: are you sure it's on the panel and not in the task tray?
[10:06] <mostafa> sblunix: can you help me?
[10:07] <mostafa> :(
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> abrandt:  perhaps run the nm-applet tool?
[10:07] <Lama_chok> thanks sblinux... it's not that i m a fan of windows.. just wanna ply some games..tha's all
[10:07] <sblunix> mostafa: Well, I'm not exactly sure how I could, GRUB is not my specialty
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> gome:  wine and scripts? what scripts?
[10:08] <sblunix> If anything like that happens, I go ahead and completely reinstall the boot configuration file for me...
[10:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, I might not but the system will sure respond smoother i guess, still will kep this for now and explore the issue later when ive got more time. I want it running as soon as possible
[10:08] <mostafa> sblunix: how do you understand that it's cause is GRUB
[10:08] <sblunix> Lama_chok: ya, IK :P
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  im not even sure it will respond smoother.
[10:08] <sblunix> mostafa: because GRUB handles starting up and shutting down. (Or so I believe, I may be wrong)
[10:08] <Bearshare> mostafa, what kind of muslim name is that
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  last i checked the server  kernel had some extra memory support fetures for sich as more then 4gb ram on a 32bit machine and some other things.
[10:08] <gome> Dr_Willis: a simple shell script, for the instalation of xnview, i can't get it working, it apears "run with wine" instead of the default command to run scripts
[10:09] <Bearshare> Are you a muslim, mostafa?
[10:09] <sblunix> Bearshare: Does that have anything to do with the topic at hand?
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> gome:  run it from a terminal, or chakjge its default applicaion perhaps.
[10:09] <Lama_chok> well wanna make sure nothing screws up the GRUB... otherwise i will have a hard time
[10:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, ok thanks will stick with what ive  got for now
[10:10] <Bearshare> I hate stinky Muslim n****rs
[10:10] <mostafa> Bearshare: Does it have any difference between the religion of people in this room?
[10:10] <sblunix> Lama_chok: I've never had GRUB problems dual booting, really easy to reinstall and backup, it's all in the guide
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> and here we wonder why you got banned from other channels Bearshare ....
[10:10] <Bearshare> shut your muslim face up mostafa
[10:10] <Boohbah> !ops
[10:10] <sblunix> Bearshare!
[10:10] <rek> hi Dr_Willis u ar an expert
[10:10] <sblunix> !ops
[10:10] <Bearshare> what
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> rek:  depends on the issues.
[10:10] <Bearshare> Whats up
[10:11] <rek> Dr_Willis:  always chatting
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> Bearshare:  you spouting insults to the channel.. if you dident do so.. then you got some issues going on.
[10:11] <Boohbah> Bearshare: what's up with your kickban?
[10:11] <Bearshare> my kickban?
[10:11] <rek> Dr_Willis: mythtv and yp-p3 that is not recognized by hardy
[10:11] <sessizce> how can i install wbar on xubuntu 9.04 64bit ?
[10:11] <Bearshare> I dont get kickbanned
[10:11] <gome> Dr_Willis: from terminal i can't create the files, even with sudo command, and the command you passed me don't work...
[10:11] <Bearshare> Dr Willis shut up now
[10:12] <Bearshare> dont talk for the rest of the night
[10:12] <rek> sudo iotop     and i see mythtv at the boot always working.... 800kb/sec    why?    i must kill him
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> gome:  create what file?
[10:12] <iziezal> i have no sound. im new to linux. can anyone help? i went to system>preferences>sound and kept selecting 'devices' and clicking 'test' until i hears a sound. i hear a sound but i dont hear any sound when i play videos on youtube or 'vlc player'
[10:12] <oldude67> !ops | Bearshare  rude,foul language and off topic
[10:13] <dragonrigs> !ops
[10:13] <Slart> oldude67: oh.. they are very aware of him..
[10:13] <dragonrigs> !ops
[10:13] <rek> help
[10:13] <dragonrigs> ops i need this guy thrown out
[10:13] <ziroday> dragonrigs: you only need to do it once, if none are around, none are around
[10:13] <gome> Dr_Willis: the files the script was trying to install... there is an argument to execute scripts with gedit?
[10:13] <dragonrigs> thanks
[10:13] <rek> help dudes
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> gome:  sudo sh scriptname   doesent work?
[10:14] <dragonrigs> what
[10:14] <dragonrigs> say ur quote
[10:14] <dragonrigs> rek: whats ur question
[10:14] <gome> Dr_Willis: nope, i tried it...
[10:14] <rek> yp-p3 not recognized w c i do?
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> gome:  what is the scrupt suppose dto install? where did it come from?
[10:15] <Boohbah> rek: do you see any output in dmesg when you plugin the device?
[10:15] <rek> mythtv write allways why? how can i get my mythtv working?
[10:15] <mostafa> thnx all for their response
[10:16] <GreenDelta2> ibuclaw: could you help me again? i tried this example: http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/WxGLCanvas and it compiled, but i get a segfault when running it...............
[10:16] <gome> Dr_Willis: it was supposed to install XnView, came from it's site (http://www.xnview.com/)
[10:16] <mostafa> this is normal to me but I know that all of these rude words are the cause of wrong infos about my religion anyhow thnx
[10:16] <rek> Bus 008 Device 005: ID 04e8:511a Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[10:17] <Boohbah> rek: do you see anything in /media ?
[10:17] <rek> of course not
[10:17] <mostafa> sblunix: do you know about grub 2?
[10:17] <somaly> ttfn
[10:17] <ziroday> rek: does it appear in sudo fdisk -l, what protocol does it normally use for data transfer?
[10:18] <sessizce> how can i install wbar on xubuntu 9.04 64bit ?
[10:18] <rek> mp3
[10:18] <rek> it's an mp3
[10:18] <ziroday> rek: yes, but mp3 players use a variety of data transfer protocols.
[10:19] <rek> no
[10:19] <rek> ther's anythin
[10:19] <sblunix> mostafa: nope, I try answering what I can, but I know nothing about GRUB
[10:19] <ziroday> rek: pardon?
[10:20] <rek> sudo fdisk -l does not show my mp3
[10:20] <mostafa> sblunix:  thank you bro :D
[10:20] <GreenDelta2> i have a problem with wxwidgets and ubuntu... i tried this example: http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/WxGLCanvas and it compiled, but i get a segfault when running it...............
[10:20] <ziroday> rek: okay, when plugging in your device what are the last few messages outputted by dmesg?
[10:20] <rek> waitt
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> gome:  i dont even see a 'script' to download  there  - i do see the tar.gz  That program seems a little out dated.
[10:21] <ziroday> GreenDelta2: probably better if you ask in the wxwidgets channel, we won't be able to help you much here
[10:21] <sblunix> mostafa: no problem, and ignore that Bearshare Guy, he's already been banned from three other rooms for abuse and innapropriate comments, ubuntu is all about a circle of friends and wide support network, everyone's welcome
[10:21] <rek> there are  lot of messages
[10:21] <gome> Dr_Willis: inside the *.tar.gz is the program
[10:21] <ziroday> !pastebin | rek put them here
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> gome:  XnView-x86-unknown-linux2.x-static-fc4.tgz    works here when i run it after extracting the files.
[10:23] <gome> Dr_Willis: witch command do you use to run it?
[10:23] <mostafa> sblunix: for sure because it is normal to me and I know it is the cause of wrong info about muslims I wish all the mankind would will live in peace
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> gome:  it it has binaries in the 'bin' dir of that archive that i ran
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> gome:  cd whatever/bin      ./whatevercmmand
[10:24] <mostafa> sblunix: you are a good man bro thnx
[10:24] <rek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253573/
[10:24] <rek> ziroday:
[10:24] <rek> pasted
[10:24] <sblunix> ya well, it's not really that bad, I mean, seriously, it's very rare to run into people who have anything to say about muslims, to most of us, it's just another religion...
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> gome:  that is  a rather old/outdated app it  shows its age. :)
[10:25] <ziroday> rek: what player is this again?
[10:25] <gome> Dr_Willis: it's the one i found to browse for *.ico files, but it's another treat...
[10:25] <rek> yp-p3 samsung
[10:25] <rek> new :-)
[10:26] <rek> for my birthday
[10:27] <ziroday> rek: does the player appear in rhythmbox?
[10:27] <rek> nope ziro
[10:28] <levander> Does ubuntuforums not still have that thing where you can click and give thanks to people?
[10:28] <ziroday> rek: okay, the player uses MTP to communicate. Do you have gnomad or banshee?
[10:28] <ziroday> levander: nope, ask in #ubuntuforums for more
[10:28] <dragonrigs> ubuntu-in
[10:28] <dragonrigs> #ubuntu-in
[10:28] <rek> dunno
[10:29] <rek> dunno ziroday
[10:29] <ziroday> rek: well could you install those apps please...
[10:29] <rek> but da playa came with no software
[10:29] <rek> of coures
[10:29] <rek> apt-get?
[10:29] <ziroday> rek: whatever suits you
[10:30] <gome> Dr_Willis: well, thanks for your time, i will try to figure out some stuff
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> gome:  there are proberly other tools to work with .ico files.. (i dont even bother with ico's andy more) i find good png icons :)
[10:30] <rek> can u tell me the ame of the deb ziroday
[10:31] <ziroday> rek: gnomad and banshee
[10:32] <corden> guys it is possible to install kde 4.3 on ubuntu 8.04(hardy)?
[10:32] <gome> Dr_Willis: i recently came from windows, so i still have some *.ico files from my deskmodes XD
[10:32] <rek> ziroday:  installed banshee
[10:32] <rek> gnomad not found
[10:32] <ziroday> corden: possibly through a PPA, but I doubt it.
[10:32] <ziroday> rek: gnomad2
[10:33] <corden> I just installed kde4 but it's version says 3.3. Is kde4 a 4 or 3?
[10:33] <iceroot> corden: kde 4 = kde 4.x  kde 3 = kde 3.x
[10:33] <rek> ziroday:  installed
[10:33] <ziroday> rek: well can you start either please
[10:33] <Mart||n> .info was best icons
[10:34] <corden> iceroot, yah, but when i look at synaptic its version from properties was 3.3. Maybe 3.3 was it's build
[10:34] <schnoodles> does the new ubuntu have the sessions dialog by default ?
[10:34] <Mart||n> or glow ones on miggy
[10:34] <iceroot> corden: jaunty?
[10:34] <corden> hardy
[10:34] <rek> no jukebox found on usb
[10:34] <rek> riccardo@riccardo-desktop:~$ gnomad2
[10:34] <rek> LIBMTP_Get_First_Device: No Devices Attached
[10:34] <rek> PDE device NULL.
[10:34] <rek>        ziroday
[10:34] <iceroot> corden: hardy only has kde 3.5.9 imo
[10:34] <FloodBot3> rek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <corden> i preferred hardy since it's LTS :D
[10:35] <iceroot> corden: if i am correct there was kubuntu remix with kde 4.x
[10:35] <iceroot> corden: on hardy
[10:35] <ziroday> rek: look you need to unmount the drive and then plug it back in then start gnomad2
[10:35] <corden> iceroot, synapic has KDE4.
[10:35] <rek> ok ziroday
[10:35] <corden> maybe your right its a kde 3 with kde4 remix
[10:36] <rek> do i need to reboot?
[10:36] <corden> hmmmmmmm
[10:36] <iceroot> corden: as i said, there was a remix for hardy with kde4
[10:36] <sessizce> how can i install wbar on xubuntu 9.04 64bit ?
[10:36] <iceroot> corden: kde 4.1 was it at release
[10:36] <fxn> hey, you know what to do here? W: GPG error: http://apt.brightbox.net hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5F850D830090DAAD
[10:36] <dragon> Is there a place I could get some ffmpeg-specific help? their IRC?
[10:37] <Mart||n> maybe u have teh pre reslase  rc version
[10:37] <rek> ziroday:  it was not mounted it does not workà
[10:37] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: try in an terminal "sudo apt-cache search wbar"
[10:37] <corden> i wonder why synaptic write kde4 when it's version was 3.3
[10:38] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher, apt-chace command not found
[10:38] <wildnfree> dragon: what sort of help are you looking for with ffmpeg?
[10:38] <corden> bur i guess its 4 since its repos are kde4
[10:38] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: try in an terminal "sudo apt-cache search wbar" try to write it right ;) cache
[10:39] <zvacet> fxn:http://paste.ubuntu.com/253577/
[10:39] <ohlievher> hi room
[10:39] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | ohlievher
[10:39] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher,  :) thx it found bwbar ?
[10:39] <ohlievher> hi orts
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall wbar being in the repos
[10:39] <ohlievher> thanks for the welcome
[10:39] <ohlievher> i like Ubuntu!
[10:39] <skazi21101> i have a problem qhen system startup/ fglrx fail / can somebody help me with this?
[10:39] <corden> hope ubuntu 10.4 will come out soon
[10:39] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: :) ok, now try "sudo apt-get install bwbar" if it is the package which you need.
[10:39] <ohlievher> Great and Cool!
[10:39] <corden> cant wait with another LTS
[10:39] <ortsvorsteher> !info bwbar | sessizce
[10:39] <Mart||n> no
[10:40] <Mart||n> not allowed to help as i use enter not often enough
[10:40] <rek> ziroday: doe not work
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> http://www.deviceguru.com/adding-wbar-prism-and-gadgets-to-ubuntu/
[10:40] <ziroday> rek: I'm sorry I have no idea
[10:40] <rek> ziroday: thank you
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list
[10:41] <skazi21101> i have a problem qhen system startup/ fglrx fail / can somebody help me with this?
[10:41] <rek> Dr_Willis: my yp-p3 is not recognized
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> rek:  you assume i have a CLUE what a yp-p3 even is....
[10:42] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher,  i dont thing wbar and bwbar same things.. i want to install http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list
[10:42] <rek> mp3 player samsung Dr_Willis
[10:42] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: yes, try this :)
[10:43] <Kharn> re all
[10:43] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher, bwbar is a dock like cairo dock?
[10:43] <ortsvorsteher> !info bwbar | sessizce
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> wbar is a dock... bwbar is --- no idea.. :)
[10:44] <TheFunkbomb> is flash for ubuntu amd64 still an RC or have they released the real deal?
[10:44] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher,  my english is not good :)
[10:44] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: whats your prefered language?
[10:44] <sessizce> tr
[10:44] <ortsvorsteher> !tr | sessizce
[10:45] <sessizce> yes i know but not online persons
[10:45] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: ;) no problem, bwbar is something to see which bandwith you are using ;)
[10:45] <rek> ubottu yp-3p
[10:45] <Mart||n> i am online
[10:45] <ortsvorsteher> !bot | rek
[10:45] <Mart||n> jsut watching some bot explin to each versoin of a differnt bot to asses whether to  bots get same  definition
[10:45] <Mart||n> lol
[10:45] <rek> ciao ubottu
[10:45] <Mart||n> for SIZES
[10:46] <Mart||n> or excersizes
[10:46] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone know if Flash for AMD64 is a final release yet?
[10:46] <Kharn> so i've spent the past 3 hours trying to work out where I'm going wrong trying to install postgresql (running jaunty) and am having absolutely no success getting it running .. if anyone could help, would be great .. heres a paste of the installers output ----> http://www.pastebin.org/9189
[10:47] <ubuntu_904> hi i installed windows98 onto my PC then I lost out om my winxp which is installed on the logical partition will have to reinstall or can i retrieve back my win xp ?
[10:47] <Mart||n> no
[10:47] <Mart||n> u just need to boot to doe and fdisk /mbr
[10:47] <Mart||n> i think
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_904:  you mean it vanisned from teh grub menus?
[10:47] <Mart||n> or if not boot winxp cd
[10:47] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | ubuntu_904
[10:47] <Mart||n> and then enter setup
[10:47] <glick> hi
[10:47] <Mart||n> then  press a few thing to get recovery console
[10:47] <Diden05> test
[10:48] <Mart||n> then type in  boot fix or something
[10:48] <glick> excuse me is there a way to access spanish letters on my keyboard
[10:48] <glick> ?
[10:48] <Mart||n> goole  win98 xp boot fix
[10:48] <iziezal> i have no sound. im new to linux. can anyone help? i went to system>preferences>sound and kept selecting 'devices' and clicking 'test' until i hears a sound. i hear a sound but i dont hear any sound when i play videos on youtube or 'vlc player'
[10:48] <ubuntu_904> ohk thanks
[10:48] <ortsvorsteher> glick: sure, just change your settings to spanish keyboard
[10:48] <TheFunkbomb> iziezal, did you check the speaker on the upper bar?
[10:48] <ortsvorsteher> glick: is there a spanish keyboard connected?
[10:49] <Kharn> iziezal: have u isntalled codecs for the files u are attempting to play?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Im Not sure flash, or vlc actually use the w32codecs :)
[10:49] <rek> hi we need to use a yp-p3 samsung mp3 player
[10:49] <iziezal> TheFunkbomb, yes i did.
[10:49] <sessizce> ortsvorsteher, wbar : http://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list there is a 32bit package for debian etch but not 64 bit
[10:50] <Pupuser402> how about puppy
[10:50] <ortsvorsteher> sessizce: so search the web for an 64bit application. use your prefered search engine :)
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> sessizce:  compile from source perhaps?
[10:50] <TheFunkbomb> iziezal, right click on the speaker and choose Open Volume Control
[10:50] <zmdwjx1981> 哈哈
[10:50] <Kharn> flash needs mpeg2 audio codec ... afair ..
[10:50] <iziezal> Kharn, actually im watching a video on vlc now. i dont hear any sound on firefox/flash
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Pupuser402:  what about it.
[10:50] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | zmdwjx1981
[10:50] <zmdwjx1981> I know
[10:50] <Mart||n> ok
[10:51] <sessizce> Dr_Willis,  i couldnt make it
[10:51] <Mart||n> u need to  check u have workign sound with something that is  multimedia
[10:51] <Mart||n> to asses whether the sound is working on stuff
[10:51] <Mart||n> like  film or youtube
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> sessizce:  its not really  that impressive.. gnome-do and its dock/bar theme works decently well
[10:51] <Mart||n> as if so then it the desgner  fault
[10:52] <glick> can you buy keyboard layout covers
[10:52] <glick> ?
[10:52] <sessizce> Dr_Willis, ok i will try this. thnx
[10:52] <glick> having a different layout is useless without the keys
[10:52] <kbp> I reckon this is a bug because on one of my desktop, when I play music on Amarok, there is no sound from other program (flash player, vlc, etc.)
[10:52] <igsen> after upgrading to xubuntu jaunty I can't log on to default xfce4.desktop. please help...
[10:52] <kbp> <-------- (broken grammar)
[10:53] <Mart||n> so u have no sound wat so ever
[10:53] <dragonrigs> am i heard
[10:53] <Mart||n> then u need to consult the program that controls ur sound
[10:53] <dragonrigs> bazhang: can u hear me
[10:53] <iziezal> my sound is fine everywhere but flash/firefox
[10:53] <Mart||n> like  a mixer of some kind that controls the sound outpout if  modules are loaded correct  thru oss or alsa or pulse
[10:53] <Kharn> can anyone help with a failing install of postgresql , log of install and error is here: http://www.pastebin.org/9189
[10:54] <oldude67> dragonrigs, i see you. does that help?
[10:54] <igsen> Should i reinstall xubuntu desktop?
[10:54] <Mart||n> no
[10:54] <Mart||n> maybe update alsa
[10:54] <Mart||n> or run alsa conf
[10:54] <iziezal> Mart||n, was that meant for me?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> igsen:  reinstalling for things is windows thinking..
[10:55] <iziezal> Mart||n, there is no more alsa conf
[10:55] <Kharn> Dr_Willis :D
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> igsen:  but you could try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i guess.
[10:55] <kbp> Kharn: check log : * The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output.
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> make
[10:55] <Mart||n> oh thought it was in the  tools package
[10:55] <Mart||n> that not natively enable in the apt update
[10:55] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 9.04] Synaptic lists a package name entry 'gnome-keyring-manager' but without any additional information (such as a description). This was different in Ubuntu 8.04.3. What is the reason?
[10:55] <Mart||n> as state in console  apt-get conf
[10:55] <Mart||n> like hashhed out
[10:56] <Mart||n> with  the all support  kernels
[10:56] <Mart||n> but disbale  pulsa
[10:56] <Kharn> kbp: http://www.pastebin.org/9191
[10:57] <Kharn> kbp: i've attempted to stop ssl, which removes the first line of the error, however the rest remain
[10:57] <Mart||n> whats second error line
[10:57] <Kharn> could not bind ipv4 socket
[10:58] <igsen> Dr_willis, install on gnome failsafe session?
[10:58] <Mart||n> ok net not connected e.g ethherner or wireless if u talk bout boot posts
[10:58] <zvacet> glick: did you install support for spanish
[10:58] <dragonrigs> helo
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> igsen:  Huh?
[10:58] <Kharn> Mart||n: im connected to it via ssh at the moment
[10:58] <kbp> Kharn: so is there anyother app tecking port 5432? as the hint?
[10:59] <kbp> Kharn: *taking
[10:59] <Kharn> kbp: not that i can see ... nothing at all\
[10:59] <Mart||n> the  brign the net connection up
[10:59] <Mart||n> or what is it using the defualt eth0 net connect fora  bind port
[10:59] <Mart||n> or something
[10:59] <Mart||n> maybe u running a local vpn aswell
[10:59] <Kharn> nope, its online atm ..
[10:59] <Mart||n> adn teh gateway not right or something when the dhcp client checks for ip
[10:59] <igsen> Dr_Willis, I mean I can log on to gnome fail safe mode but I cant go back to xubuntu's xfce4 session.
[11:00] <Mart||n> dunno not my problem for advance tech
[11:00] <Kharn> static ip ... :D
[11:00] <Mart||n> thats ur prob
[11:00] <Mart||n> ifcpnfig up
[11:00] <Kharn> ...
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> igsen:  as a test make a new user.. see if they can loginto xfce
[11:00] <Kharn> but its up .... im conencted to it
[11:00] <Mart||n> dhcp ..setting up as auto
[11:00] <Mart||n> broadcast addy wrong
[11:00] <Mart||n> not higher enough mask
[11:00] <kbp> Kharn: just make sure please run sudo netstat -anltp|grep :5432 on the server
[11:00] <Mart||n> dunno
[11:01] <igsen> Dr_Willis, I'll do that... please wait for me, I'll get back at you....
[11:01] <Kharn> kbp no output
[11:02] <Kharn> its also running a vnc server, ssh server, ftp server ...
[11:04] <kbp> Kharn: is any other service working well? (i.e. ftp, ssh etc.?) because the last line says: could not create ANY TCP/IP sockets
[11:04] <Kharn> yep, i am ssh'd into it atm, i can vnc no probs and ftp is working fine ...
[11:05] <Kharn> i'm physically right next to it .. so same ip range etc..
[11:05] <Kharn> not that it matters, as i am only trying to run it on itself at this stage
[11:06] <kbp> Kharn: ip range stuff doesnt get involve here because as I can see it uses "localhost"
[11:07] <Kharn> yup
[11:07] <kbp> Kharn: it can run itself without any internet/lan connection
[11:07] <Kharn> no it won't run at all ...
[11:07] <kbp> Kharn: how about /etc/init.d/sumthing retart it?
[11:07] <kbp> *restart
[11:08] <Kharn> its not started at present ... and i get that same error http://www.pastebin.org/9191 if i do /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start
[11:08] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 9.04] Synaptic lists a package name entry 'gnome-keyring-manager' but without any additional information (such as a description). What is the reason?
[11:08] <slapfight> hi
[11:09] <neil_d> QWERTY
[11:10] <MGZT> hai
[11:10] <Kharn> kbp .. somehow u gave me an idea then .. (who knows how my mind works) ... but i have it fixed ...
[11:11] <kbp> Kharn: even if you turn off SSL, it still gives that SSL root.crt error? (I'm thinking that because SSL stuff makes  the socket doesnt work properly (!??) - I dunno what im talking about anyway)
[11:11] <Kharn> the solution ... i edit /etc/postgresql/8.3/main/postgresql.conf and changed the line "#listen_addresses = 'localhost'" to "listen_address = '*' ... and magically it started
[11:11]  * neil_d oops
[11:11] <kbp> Kharn: it should be 127.0.0.1, dont use * :) for security reason
[11:12] <Kharn> yeh .. prolly a smart idea :P
[11:12] <grawity> Or ::1 !
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> But wait! im using 127.0.0.1! you cant use my ip!
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:12] <Kharn> lol!
[11:13] <bubu1uk> Dr_Willis: who stolen my ip?
[11:13] <Kharn> heres an interesting one for u tho ... i cant ping 127.0.0.1 or its external ip from that box, but i can ping its external ip from this one...
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> 'want a fast quake server with low ping!  join 127.0.0.1 !'
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> later: "I Joined that server.. MY ping was great! but no one else was there!"
[11:14] <dragonrigs> can some one teach me to remote desktop
[11:14] <Ti-dev> Hi, I'm doing a dual-boot of Windows XP and Ubuntu and I was wondering, do I make a /boot partition or not? I'm installing Ubuntu on the second hdd btw..."/dev/sdb"
[11:14] <Ti-dev> sorry if it's a dumb Q...this is the first time I'm doing a true dual-boot
[11:14] <dragonrigs> It would be a great honour
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Ti-dev:  a boot partition is optional.
[11:15] <grawity> Ti-dev: I myself just created an / and a swap partition.
[11:15] <Ti-dev> oh? okay
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Ti-dev:  if the while 2nd hd is going to be for ubuntu. the installer can partition as needed.
[11:15] <jedimind> how would i go about checking what file system is being used on say a USB Stick (what has it been formatted as) ?
[11:15] <grawity> Ti-dev: Actually, if you install Ubuntu _after_ Windows, it can do everything automatically (including resizing)
[11:15] <Dr_Willis>  i normally use / /home  and swap.
[11:15] <bubu1uk> Ti-dev: i use /home separate. nothing else.
[11:15] <dragonrigs> can some one teach me to do remotedeskto
[11:15] <dragonrigs> remote desktop*
[11:15] <Kharn> dragonrigs ... this is the guide i used : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[11:15] <kbp> Kharn: a hacker asked a man: "Give me your IP. I will hack you using my tool". The man replied: "127.0.0.1". The hacker says: "Haha you're dead now! I'm formatting your hdd"
[11:15] <grawity> jedimind: Is it mounted? If yes, the output of 'mount' might have the FS.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  give details... local lan? or over internet? what OS's ?
[11:16] <grawity> jedimind: If it isn't, 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX' -- but that isn't very clear on the filesystem type.
[11:16] <Ti-dev> I want to do a manual partitioning  as I usually do see?
[11:16] <Ti-dev> kk
[11:16] <Ti-dev> I got it
[11:16] <oldude67> dragonrigs, try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n33yl1jAqgQ
[11:16] <dragonrigs> i want to connect to my networks
[11:16] <Kharn> kbp :P
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Ti-dev:  i tend to use all primary partitions also.
[11:16] <Ti-dev> I usually create a /boot partition for linux so you refer to the /boot dir created within /root
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Ti-dev:  go for it then.
[11:17] <Ti-dev> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the support :D
[11:17] <Ti-dev> Dr_Willis: I'm an old Ubuntu cheif and now I'm on Arch...this is for my sis' actually hehe
[11:17] <Ti-dev> later!
[11:17] <jedimind> grawity: thanks that helped, how would i format a usb stick to say fat32 ?
[11:18] <eboyjr> Hello, people. I have a HP Pavillion dv9700, and it seems the graphics card is shot. It doesn't work in Ubuntu or Vista, and enabling Safe Graphics Mode in Ubuntnu works good. But not good enough. The resolution is only 800x600. Is there something I can do?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> jedimind:  mkfs.vfat /dev/devicename
[11:18] <grawity> jedimind: I recommend gparted, a graphical interface -- but mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 will work too.
[11:18] <grawity> jedimind: I myself use NTFS for USB sticks though.
[11:18] <jedimind> is vfat = fat32 ?
[11:18] <grawity> jedimind: Most of the time, yes.
[11:18] <grawity> jedimind: fat16 is usually called 'msdos', AFAIK.
[11:19] <jedimind> ok how bout this - i have a usb stick and it seems to have a limitation on how many files can be placed in a single folder
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> fat12 :)
[11:19] <grawity> Dr_Willis: That one is for floppies?
[11:19] <jedimind> and i was thinking it might be the way its formatted
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  i think so.. or was that fat8
[11:19] <jedimind> but fat32 shouldn't have any such realistic limitations and it shows as vfat
[11:19] <jedimind> it craps out after 120 or so files
[11:20] <jedimind> anyone know what might be causing that ?
[11:20]  * grawity shrugs
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> craps out?
[11:21] <jedimind> Dr_Willis: just says 'drive is full" when it clearly isnt
[11:21] <jedimind> say i try to copy ~600 mp3s onto this 2gig usb stick, after 600 megs or so it says "drive is full"
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> jedimind:  too much porn.
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:21] <jedimind> but i can copy 2gigs worth of say divx onto it no problem (since thats only 3-4 files)
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> jedimind:  try making a sub dir?
[11:21] <grawity> I suggest mkfs.ntfs
[11:21] <jedimind> and if i segment those 600 into sub dirs then it works just fine
[11:22] <jedimind> but thats not what i want
[11:22] <Kharn> no really, this is quite strange.... i cant ping myself locally ... however i can ping myself from a remote system ... any ideas !?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> thats weird.
[11:22] <jedimind> Dr_Willis: yeah, fat32 should have no such problem
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> just make a single subdir..  put them all in it.. whats it do?
[11:22] <jedimind> Dr_Willis: also says drive full iirc, let me try again
[11:22] <myself> Kharn i bet you can ping me =P
[11:22] <Kharn> myself ..... LOL!
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> hit it with a hammer and wash it in viniger.. then try it.. :P
[11:22] <jedimind> hrm actually it lets me put them all into a subdir
[11:23] <benste> does so know something new to solve my MS TI cardreader problem ? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/48987
[11:23] <jedimind> Dr_Willis: so the problem is that i can't put the files in the root, but can in a sub-dir
[11:23] <jedimind> weird
[11:24] <Dr_Willis>  jedimind  i recall some limit on the 'root' of a vat filesystem vs subdirs.. but never really noiced it befor.
[11:24] <dragonrigs> doctor wilis i want to connect to the machien on my network in places>network>MUNNA-PC
[11:25] <Mart||n> tehn use samba
[11:25] <Mart||n> tools
[11:25] <Mart||n> or network
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  You need to install samba to get machines seeing others and having 'shares' normally
[11:25] <Mart||n> in the tool bar icorner menu
[11:25] <Mart||n> it stragiht forward like windows
[11:25] <chilly> подскажите плиз, как избавится от кракозябр в плеерах?
[11:25] <Mart||n> same reference to the name network
[11:25] <ortsvorsteher> !ru | chilly
[11:25] <dragonrigs> oh
[11:25] <dragonrigs> ok
[11:25] <bazhang> chilly, #ubuntu-ru
[11:26] <Mart||n> mount \\ip\dir /mnt/fakelk
[11:26] <Mart||n> -t nfs
[11:26] <Mart||n> of such for isop mount pover ftp/http
[11:26] <Mart||n> as ti illegal to download
[11:26] <Mart||n> not to burn aint it
[11:26] <chilly> thanks
[11:26] <dragonrigs> DR_Willis: how about VNC
[11:26] <kbp> ortsvorsteher: how do you know it's ru ?
[11:27] <jeeves_Moss> how can I find out why my kernel just paniced?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  vnc is for one thing.. samba is for sotmhing totally diffrent.
[11:27] <bubu1uk> kbp: cuz of letters. :)
[11:27] <ortsvorsteher> kbp, i know the letters. :) you dont know how to write kyrillic? ;)
[11:27] <grawity> kbp: It looks like Russian, that's why.
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  shareing 'directories/files' = samba
[11:27] <sash_> kbp:  because other slawic languages dont write kyrillic afaik
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  remote desktop access = vnc or freenx
[11:27] <ortsvorsteher> kbp, visit moscow, you will have a amazing trip ;)
[11:27] <grawity> sash_: I think Ukrainian uses Cyrillic letters
[11:28] <bubu1uk> sash_: most dont. :P
[11:28] <kbp> I thought about Ukraine first when I see those letters
[11:28] <dragonrigs> DR_Willis: my windows machien has Ad-hoc enabled incase you dont know Ad-hoc will enable the same ip on both computers im using that wireless connection right now
[11:28] <sash_> oh, didnt know this. ok, so russia and ukraine ;)
[11:28] <kaddi> hi, my up and down keys suddenly stopped working... how can I query the key to see if the right action is assigned to the key=
[11:29] <ortsvorsteher> and serbia sash_ ;) also in some parts of bosnia ... and so on :D
[11:29] <diddy> If I want to make 100% sure I will be able to remove a .deb package again what can I do? Wasn't there some kind of check-install command?
[11:29] <Mart||n> gtep /devpsaux
[11:29] <ohlievher> hi room
[11:29] <bubu1uk> ortsvorsteher: sash_ : i think bulgarian as well. but it's bit different letters.
[11:29] <kbp> diddy: what do you mean remove .deb package? just delete it
[11:30] <ortsvorsteher> :D
[11:30]  * ortsvorsteher turns back to topic ;) 
[11:30] <grawity> diddy: If it's a package, dpkg will take care of removing it.
[11:30] <grawity> diddy: dpkg -i package.deb to install, dpkg -r package to remove.
[11:30] <diddy> kbp, I want to install a .deb package that is not in the repositories but I don't know the author.
[11:31] <neil_d> I have the sound on my computer going :) but the microphone wont work... I am using the latest ubuntu. can anyone help?
[11:31] <Mart||n> alien
[11:31] <dragonrigs>  DR_Willis: my windows machien has Ad-hoc enabled incase you dont know Ad-hoc will enable the same ip on both computers im using that wireless connection right now
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  err... they dont have the same 'ip' that dosetn make sence.
[11:31] <diddy> grawity, kbp it could be malware.
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> they should each still have their own ip
[11:31] <dragonrigs> no
[11:32] <eboyjr> Hey, can anyone tell me which graphics cards (any) work on the HP Pavillion dv9700?
[11:32] <grawity> diddy: And?
[11:32] <Mart||n> ok just ifconfgi  wlan1 ipnumber for the machine u using that snot on net
[11:32] <dragonrigs> ive checked http://www.whatismyip.com/ on both of them
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> eboyjr:  when in doubt - stick with nvidia cards.
[11:32] <diddy> grawity, will dpkg keep track of where all files go?
[11:32] <ortsvorsteher> eboyjr: did you searched whitelist and blacklist?
[11:32] <kbp> diddy: ... my habbit is I keep double click on deb files downloaded from net and not really care about malware... I need to think about it again - I guess...
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  they are going thriough a router?  that site would show the routers ip.
[11:32] <grawity> diddy: It always does.
[11:32] <grawity> diddy: Just out of curiosity, what program is in that pacakge?
[11:33] <eboyjr> Dr_Willis: The graphics card is shot.. vesa works, but the resolution is 800x600 (too small) Maybe there was something I could do
[11:33] <eboyjr> ortsvorsteher: ^
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  all 8 of my machines here show the same ip at those kind of sites. I think. :)
[11:33] <diddy> grawity, I am not talking about a particular package. I mean in general.
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> but then again - i dont use wireless or adhoc stuff.
[11:33] <dragonrigs> soooooo
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  so.. what does this have to do  with samba or vnc?
[11:33] <dragonrigs> can some one try to remote me
[11:33] <diddy> grawity, for many programs there are no ubuntu packages. How risky is it to install it into the system?
[11:34] <bazhang> dragonrigs, please dont ask that here
[11:34] <bubu1uk> diddy: what you mean how risky?
[11:34] <grawity> diddy: Depends on whether you trust the author. Usually it isn't risky.
[11:34] <kbp> dragonrigs: type ifconfig and copy & paste it to pastebin.com then give me the link
[11:34] <Mart||n> as safe as it is for that distro with same conf sturcuture
[11:34] <dragonrigs> Can some one remote my computer
[11:34] <dragonrigs> ok
[11:34] <Mart||n> or recommendation from a ligete souce
[11:34] <diddy> grawity, on Windows it is extremely difficult to remove the program 100% as it is installed all over the place (registry, folders everywhere, autostart, etc).
[11:34] <grawity> diddy: Also, it depends on whether it's available in source form or not, etc.
[11:34] <GPL> i've Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000 , Should i install EasyCam to test it, i've used Cheese , but it didnt detect it, however, it shows when i do "lsusb" command, Shud i install EasyCam to test it, or anything else, Please help me, i want to make this cam work ;) and that this is a popular cam too :), so there must not be a lot of hassle in it.
[11:35] <bazhang> dragonrigs, you dont want strangers remoting your computer
[11:35] <dragonrigs> paste.ubuntu.com
[11:35] <kronix> dragonrigs: I will, but I need your IP, your SS number and your bank account details.
[11:35] <grawity> diddy: Windows is a completely different OS. It has no way of package management - except Windows Installer, which was a great idea but didn't really work...
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  vnc is normally NOT used over the 'internet' with out ssh tunnling.
[11:35] <grawity> diddy: So in Windows, programs _themselves_ (or rather, specialized installer programs) take care of both installing AND removing.
[11:35] <rek> bazhang: my yp-p3 is not recogmized
[11:35] <kbp> bazhang: im not trying to remote his pc :)
[11:35] <diddy> grawity, so packages that are installed with dpkg -i will be removed with dpkg -r without leaving junk anywhere?
[11:35] <kronix> Windows Installer isn't a package manager.
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  of course it worked.. it spawned 1000+ different types of installers for people to use! :P
[11:36] <bazhang> rek, what is that
[11:36] <rek> mp3 playa
[11:36] <grawity> kronix: It isn't - but it _is_ kind of similar to, for example, .deb packages.
[11:36] <kronix> Windows Installer is an installation platform.
[11:36] <grawity> diddy: dpkg -r will remove what dpkg -i installed.
[11:36] <grawity> diddy: Not more.
[11:37] <bazhang> rek, be patient I will do a websearch
[11:37] <rek> ok bazhang
[11:37] <kronix> Windows has one great weakness: no packet manager.
[11:37] <kaddi> y up- and my down-key stopped working this morning. :( I was wondering if I could reassign them with xmodmap or something, but I can't find out how to query the keycode of the keys. Does anyone know how to do this?
[11:37] <kronix> *package
[11:37] <dragonrigs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253605/
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> kronix:  one? Heh...
[11:37] <dragonrigs> please read my ifconfig
[11:37] <sdf> anyone played alot with acer laptops?
[11:38] <kronix> 90% of the desktop market and SOHO can't be wrong, Dr_Willis.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> sdf:  i got an acer aspire one.
[11:38] <kaddi> sdf I've been using acer for a while.
[11:38] <GPL> kronix : Add/Remove Programs , is a package manager .. i guess.
[11:38] <sdf> i have 8930
[11:38] <kronix> GPL, oh, yeah.
[11:38] <sdf> the intenal slot i wanna put a tv card in it
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> kronix:  and this is ubuntu related topic how ?
[11:38] <bubu1uk> sdf: what type of acer?
[11:38] <dragonrigs> Dr_Willis: is that true
[11:38] <Mart||n> i got acer
[11:38] <sdf> doesn the M115 ok ? from avermedia
[11:38] <kronix> And Add/Remove Features and Server Roles are also package managers.
[11:38] <Mart||n> pci express it called
[11:38] <sdf> 8930g
[11:39] <Horusofoz> Hi guys - Firstly thanks for your help today and sorry for the ongoing issues - I've spent 10 hours straight trying to get ubuntu running
[11:39] <dragonrigs> i got an acer aspire 4736Z
[11:39] <kronix> Server Roles purports to download "new roles", but I don't think it does.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  is what true? whate are you even trying to do?
[11:39] <Mart||n> pcmcia
[11:39] <grawity> Question. I want my command to be executed every time I open my laptop's lid. Where do I put that command? (command being vbetool dpms on; chvt 1; chvt 7)
[11:39] <Mart||n> or express clit
[11:39] <Mart||n> how big is teh decvie
[11:39] <GPL> kronix: what's your real problem ? we wil try to solve that.
[11:39] <bazhang> kronix, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:39] <dragonrigs> u wanted my ifconfig
[11:39] <bazhang> dragonrigs, stop that
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  i did?  why?  it shows you got wireless working with an ip# - so...... whats the problem?
[11:40] <dragonrigs> bazhang: what did i do
[11:40] <kronix> GPL, I'd like them to combine Windows Update, Add/Remove Programs, Add/Remove Features etc. into one package manager. Can you help me with that?
[11:40] <kbp> dragonrigs: please describe your question again (you want to connect from Ubuntu to Windows on adhoc right?)
[11:40] <Mart||n> did i get a prob fixed
[11:40] <dragonrigs> my other computer uses the same ip
[11:40] <GPL> kronix : yeah, ask that in ##windows , surely they will
[11:40] <bazhang> kronix, that is offtopic here. please take it elsewhere
[11:40] <kronix> I want your help, GPL.
[11:40] <kitikatpl> hello, I have a small question. I have some free space on partition /dev/sda2 and I'd like to add that space to my main partition, /dev/sda1, but GParted doesn't allow it. What should I do?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:   that dozent make sence.. how are you going to 'ping' it then? or ssh to it.. or anything to it.
[11:40] <dragonrigs> kronix: dont do this my bro ull get kicked just as i did
[11:41] <Horusofoz> I've now got a portable WD hard drive with Ubuntu and Kubuntu 9.04 installed on 2 partitions but when it's plugged in the GRUB loader doesn't come up? I don't want to install it to the internal hard drives MBR as others use the pc who would be freaked out by it so want to be able to have it so GRUB loads of the drive - Can anyone say how please?
[11:41] <dragonrigs> ok
[11:41] <dragonrigs> lemmy
[11:41] <dragonrigs> ill give it a try
[11:41] <Anarhist> hello, grub is giving me "Error 21" after installing 9.04, i have tried to search the web, but everybody is having slightly different problems. i think mine is due to the fact that i have IDE hard drives connected to motherboard, then i have SATA/IDE card which has two more IDE harddrives and SATA one, the grub is intalled onto the drive connected directly to motherboard, but Ubuntu is on SATA one
[11:41] <Mart||n> ok load up ur fav distro
[11:41] <Mart||n> e.g teh one u want to fix
[11:41] <dragonrigs> Dr_Willis: can u vnc me
[11:41] <Mart||n> and re runthe grub updater
[11:41] <Mart||n> or installer
[11:41] <maxwellr> to anyone having video problems with intel graph cards, try ubuntu 9.10 , it rocks :)
[11:41] <GPL> kronix : bro. i am sorry, but i feel , i cant. i am now a Ubuntu-person.
[11:42] <kronix> :(
[11:42] <Mart||n> or just reinstall grub after mount ur root partition
[11:42] <Mart||n> or so forth
[11:42] <Anarhist> !error21
[11:42] <Anarhist> !grub
[11:42] <Mart||n> error
[11:42] <Mart||n> 21 mean no boot partition active i think
[11:42] <dragonrigs> ubottu!
[11:42] <Mart||n> could be rong tho due to having that errro  few time when i have no boot
[11:42] <dragonrigs> !ubuttu
[11:42] <Mart||n> and i usually have a boot  set wrong
[11:42] <Mart||n> or i deleted the partition
[11:42] <dragonrigs> !vnc
[11:43] <kbp> Mart||n: if you don't put the nick of a person you wanna talk, no one knows who are you talking to :P
[11:43] <dragonrigs> !xchat
[11:43] <dragonrigs> !blender
[11:43] <Anarhist> Mart||n, i have reinstalled
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> dragonrigs:  gee.. you say both machines have the same ip.. Your ip shown is 192.168.0.88    Im pretty sure thats a 'local lan' ip. and not reacheable from   here.
[11:43] <maxwellr> !glxgears
[11:43] <bazhang> dragonrigs, /msg ubottu
[11:43] <Anarhist> Mart||n, but after reinstalling i still get the same thing
[11:43] <WinterWeaver> I'm trying to set up my laptop as a DHCP server, so that I can share my internet connection via the wireless to my wife's laptop but I get a error saying that "the device wlan0 is not ready", anyone know why?
[11:43] <dragonrigs> oh ok
[11:44] <Mart||n> it not reachable from here unless its a ip6
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> 192.168.0.* is what.. a class c? i forget the terms...
[11:44] <Mart||n> type new ipv4 on top of it maybe
[11:44] <Mart||n> lol kddding
[11:44] <Mart||n> no it not
[11:44] <kbp> Dr_Willis: if he's behind a router, and a router doesnt open anything, sure you cannot connect to him even you know his ip address
[11:44] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Nobody cares anymore about classes. It's just 192.168.0.0/24 now.
[11:44] <oguncak> hi friends. how can i open a playlist section and drop there the files i want to listen to in rhythmbox?
[11:44] <Mart||n> it means that it attach it self to a lan or trying to attach something
[11:44] <|pez|> I need to check if a package is installed or not, how would I do that in commandline?
[11:44] <Mart||n> but not attach and command  ifconfig ip just been added u wil
[11:45] <grawity> |pez|: dpkg -l packagename
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> and the 'ad hoc' docs i say here  say the thing does use some sort of dhcp server... so the question is.. DO machnes on an ad-hoc network  'somehow' all have different ip's ?
[11:45] <|pez|> right, thanks Granis
[11:45] <|pez|> uh
[11:45] <|pez|> grawity
[11:45] <|pez|> tab completion ftl. ;P
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  but im old-skool! :)
[11:45] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Both DHCP and zeroconf allow automatic address assignment.
[11:45] <Mart||n> no they have non
[11:45] <dragonrigs> doc yes
[11:45] <dragonrigs> they do
[11:46] <Mart||n> they need to have it set up in some whay to have ips on both sides else teh ip arrange could possibly be different all the time
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  so 4 machines on an ad-hoc network would each have their own differnt ip.?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  (just making sure i am understing the details of ad-hoc netwoking) :)
[11:46] <dragonrigs> !ops
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Reading some wiki pages onit.. and they miss/skip a few details
[11:47] <kbp> ....????
[11:47] <GPL> dragonrigs: are you aware, that trigger is only for emergency use.
[11:47] <dragonrigs> yes
[11:47] <dragonrigs> arooni
[11:47] <bazhang> dragonrigs, why did you do that
[11:47] <Horusofoz> Does anyone know how to install GRUB to a portable drive that will make it bootable from multiple pcs?
[11:47] <dragonrigs> arooni spaming on my pm
[11:47] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure how do they configure IP addresses... if zeroconf (avahi-autoipd) is used, they will get an address from the 169.254.0.0/16 range. (If they haven't had one yet, they will choose one randomly.)
[11:47] <th0r> Dr_Willis: this says yes, the ad hoc network still uses a normal ip address scheme....http://en.kioskea.net/contents/configuration-reseau/configurer-routeur-wifi.php3
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  you would need the grub files on the  portable drive, (wth a suitable fileysstem) then use the proper grub command to install it to the portable drive.
[11:48] <GPL> dragonrigs: oh you need to know about IRC, visit www.irchelp.org, and from now , use /ignore nickname.
[11:48] <bubu1uk> Horusofoz: if you install system on usb, doesn't it give you option to install grub there?
[11:48] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Those 169.254.0.0/16 addresses are the "link-local" range, and so they are non-routable.
[11:48] <dragonrigs> oh
[11:48] <dragonrigs> ok
[11:49] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Does the tutorial mention dnsmasq? It has a mini DHCP server.
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  so those are reserved ip addresses that all ad-hoc networks will use?  the wont use the 192.168.*.* range?
[11:49] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 9.04] Synaptic lists a package name entry 'gnome-keyring-manager' but without any additional information (such as a description). What is the reason?
[11:49] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: I installed Grub to the portable drive I'm pretty sure but it does not load when pc started with it plugged in
[11:49] <Horusofoz> bubu1uk: Not sure it's a portable hard drive
[11:49] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I have no idea.
[11:49] <dragonrigs> who is that
[11:50] <bubu1uk> Horusofoz: did you setup in bios to boot from usb? not hdd or cdrom
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  you have to tell the pc to boot from the hard drive AND when booting from teh HD. the 'hd#,#' of the usb drive may become hd0,0 (or it might not) this is ofte an issue with  usb drives.. When you installed grub., it was very likely hd1,1 or some other hd#,#
[11:50] <Mart||n> if he see teh  2 error
[11:50] <Mart||n> then it is bootting something
[11:50] <th0r> Dr_Willis: the 169.254 addresses are used momentarily as the computers work out ip addressing. I believe the ad hoc network will still use 192.168 addresses for normal operation once set up
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  whatever device boots (on this box) becomes hd0,0  I oftenhave to tweak grub if i 'repair' it from  a rescue cd/flashdrive
[11:50] <kitikatpl> quit
[11:50] <Mart||n> or not  booting something that is supose to be there  ..as it  booted teh hard part fo
[11:50] <Mart||n> it
[11:50] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <bubu1uk> Horusofoz: and also what Dr_Willis said. :)
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  Ok. :) we tried to figure out  ad-hoc the other day at work.. and never did get it going.. figured id read up on it.
[11:51] <Horusofoz> There are three items for USB but none of them seem to work :(
[11:51] <th0r> Dr_Willis: that link I sent has a fair writeup on it
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  saving lots of things to  my flash drive to read/print at work. :)
[11:52] <kbp> Mart||n: told ya before, u need to put the name of person you wanna talk to in your chat
[11:52] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: Not sure I understand what you said
[11:53] <Mart||n> adhoc uses anything in the local ip range available else it uses non ip unless forced to do so by default or user conf
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  the drive that gets 'booted' becomes hd0,0 (in grub terms) normally. this can cause issues.
[11:53] <bubu1uk> Horusofoz: menu.lst in /grub.
[11:53] <Horusofoz> K how do I remedy this?
[11:53] <Mart||n> e.g u connect ot windows ad hoc and  dhcp  enable naturalll then u will get a  192  ip and possible internet
[11:53] <kbp> Horusofoz: he means you should edit grub on your USB to hd0,0
[11:53] <Mart||n> unless u have no ics on that side
[11:53] <Mart||n> else u will jsut get ip and not a gatway
[11:54] <Mart||n> so u can ping if it on there side or not
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  if you were to use the live cd.. and plug in a usb drive.. and install to the usb drive.. at the TIME of the install the usb drive would be hd1, not hd0.  this makes teh grub menu.lst the isntaller generates wrong for when the system boots that hard drive.
[11:54] <Horusofoz> OK so should I reboot into live cd and try then?
[11:54] <Mart||n> or the router if u on the  windows network
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> see what the grub menu.lst says on the drive. and whats its tryign to do exactly
[11:54] <Mart||n> not nessacily
[11:54] <Mart||n> it might be hd2
[11:54] <Mart||n> for some pc systems unless laptop
[11:54] <bazhang> Mart||n, dont use enter as punctuation
[11:54] <Mart||n> or two raid devices
[11:54] <Horusofoz> Its a desktop pc with XP on internal drive
[11:55] <Mart||n> e.g usb raid
[11:55] <Mart||n> i dont
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> You can edit the grub 'boot lines'   via the menus and see what it says.. if it says hd1, you may need to change it to hd0
[11:55] <Mart||n> i use my lil finger for enter and no punctation around my lil finger area
[11:55] <Mart||n> apart from shift
[11:55] <Mart||n> or  semicoon
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  you may want to clarify the exact problem also.. ive frogotten what it was. :)
[11:55] <bazhang> Mart||n, please stop
[11:55] <Mart||n> u stop
[11:55] <Mart||n> filling screen with pink
[11:56] <kbp> !lol@ Mart||n
[11:56] <Mart||n> !!lol
[11:56] <Horusofoz> Does this look correct to you all http://pastebin.com/m69fea5e
[11:56] <Julia> Can I somehow setup Ubuntu jaunty to use English language, but date be in other format/language?
[11:56] <neil_d> any ideas on why every time I open the volume control dialog.. all the 'record' things are muted.. and I cant record anything even when I unmute them?
[11:57] <neil_d> any ideas on why every time I open the volume control dialog.. all the 'record' things are muted.. and I cant record anything even when I unmute them?
[11:57] <Julia> I like English, but I would prefer other language for date etc.
[11:57] <Anarhist> i am really lost about the whole error 21 business, can somebody give me an idea of where to look if i have SATA and IDE drives
[11:57] <neil_d> any ideas on why every time I open the volume control dialog.. all the 'record' things are muted.. and I cant record anything even when I unmute them?
[11:57] <kaddi> Julia you should be able to select that in regional settings. I know you can with KDE, it should be possible with gnome as well
[11:57] <grawity> neil_d: Please don't repeat your question - especially not every half minute...
[11:57] <grawity> neil_d: That will just make people ignore you.
[11:57] <Slart> Julia: I think I've got it setup like that.. there are separate settings for dates, times, currency and so on
[11:58] <Julia> kaddi, thx, but I can't find it in Gnome
[11:58] <Mart||n> bottom right
[11:58] <Julia> Slart, where?
[11:58] <kaddi> Julia switch to kde? ;) j/k
[11:58] <Julia> kaddi, no, thx. :D I like Gnome.
[11:58] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis:
[11:58] <Horusofoz> * I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed to a portable hard drive
[11:58] <Horusofoz> * I want it so when the portbale drive is plugged in the GRUB loader comes up and I can choose what OS to use
[11:58] <Horusofoz> * I can't install GRUB to the pcs internal drive
[11:58] <Horusofoz> * If possible I want it so I can use the drive on other pcs though this is not essential
[11:58] <Slart> Julia: hang on.. let me search for a bit.. I'm not sure if it's somewhere in gnome.. or somewhere in the install setup
[11:58] <FloodBot3> Horusofoz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Horusofoz> Oops sorry I didn't think would post like that
[11:59] <GPL> Do i need to install EasyCam, to test my webcame + i am not using Ubuntu Hardy but Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope ?
[11:59] <Horusofoz> I had used shift+enter thinking it would start a new line not a new entry - sorry
[12:00] <bazhang> GPL, try cheese
[12:00] <danbhfive> GPL: also try gstreamer-properties
[12:00] <GPL> bazhang: already tried.
[12:00] <GPL> danbhfive: ok, gonna try that.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  so ubuntu is installed to the extanal usb hard drive.. and you want to boot it.. and use linux on that exteranl drive.
[12:00] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253616/
[12:00] <WinterWeaver> I'm trying to set up my laptop as a DHCP server, so that I can share my internet connection via the wireless to my wife's laptop but I get a error saying that "the device wlan0 is not ready", anyone know why?
[12:01] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: Yes
[12:01] <bazhang> GPL, separate webcam or built in
[12:01] <Slart> Julia: hmm.. all I could find was the "Language support" in the system, administration menu.. but I think that affects menu's and such
[12:01] <GPL> bazhang : Microsoft Lifecam VX-1000
[12:01] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu and Kubuntu are both installed on the drive
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  so what happens now with it? does it boot? do you get a grub menu?  is the grub menu wrong/not working?
[12:01] <bazhang> GPL, on the supported cams list or no
[12:01] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: It boots straight to windows
[12:01] <Julia> Slart, thx. I can't find it either
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> Horusofoz:  you need to tell the system to boot from the usb drive to get a grub menu.
[12:02] <GPL> bazhang : where's the supported cam's List , link please. :)
[12:02] <bazhang> !webcam
[12:02] <Mart||n> dmesg | grep usbvideo..... in console
[12:02] <Slart> Julia: in the terminal you can run "locale" to see what settings you have activated at the moment
[12:02] <bazhang> GPL, ^^
[12:02] <Mart||n> if working
[12:02] <Horusofoz> Dr_Willis: If I do this will it affect the pc when the drive is not plugged in?
[12:02] <GPL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam  <- i already started from here :)
[12:02] <Slart> Julia: there is a way of changing those settings.. but at the moment I've forgotten how to do it
[12:02] <Mart||n> to at least some extent to try in any  program like skype or AMSN
[12:02] <GPL> but the wiki link :) thanks bazhang
[12:02] <Julia> Slart, I'l google it. thx
[12:02] <kaddi> Slart Julia have a look here http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/
[12:02] <Julia> :)
[12:03] <kaddi> I think that might be what you are looking for
[12:03] <Slart> kaddi: ah.. great link.. good find ! =)
[12:03] <kaddi> :)
[12:05] <GPL> bazhang : It's not in the supported hardware list, Microsoft isnt in the list :( also EasyCam , works on a previous version of Ubuntu as mentioned in the post ...
[12:05] <bazhang> GPL, there is a bigger list, let me see if I can websearch it
[12:06] <GPL> danbhfive : Couldn't find package gstreamer-properties
[12:06] <kbp> can anyone connect to MSN using pidgin on Ubuntu 9.04 at the moment?
[12:06] <danbhfive> GPL: try running that from the CLI
[12:06] <readyou> i just had an idea
[12:06] <Horusofoz> Can anyone confirm if Dr_Willis' suggestion to tell the system to boot from the USB drive will cause issues when the drive is unplugged?
[12:06] <readyou> maybe if ubuntu wasnt free, more peoplw ouldu se it
[12:06] <readyou> since if its free = must b bad
[12:06] <bazhang> readyou, yes?
[12:06] <GPL> danbhfive: yeah i tried that from terminal.
[12:07] <bazhang> readyou, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <danbhfive> GPL: it didn't work?
[12:07] <readyou> bazhang: LOL
[12:07] <readyou> hypocrite
[12:07] <GPL> danbhfive: it said, couldnt find the package
[12:07] <GPL> readyou: please, use nice words.
[12:07] <readyou> ??
[12:07] <bazhang> readyou, this is support ONLY
[12:08] <readyou> so why are u talking about what the chan is about
[12:08] <readyou> hypopotamus
[12:08] <danbhfive> GPL: its from gnome-media
[12:08] <oldude67> readyou, you are off topic for this channel
[12:08] <readyou> so are u
[12:08] <readyou> hypocrite
[12:08] <oldude67> goodbye
[12:08] <kbp> what is +o and -o ?
[12:09] <Hax4or_mu2ic> How do you register
[12:09] <bazhang> !register | Hax4or_mu2ic
[12:09] <kbp> it shows up like more than 10 times since I joined the channel
[12:09] <Horusofoz> Will instructing system to boot from usb cause issues when usb not plugged in?
[12:09] <sdf> !register | sdf
[12:09] <Slart> kbp: if someone has an o they are an operator.. ie can kick/ban people and some other stuff..
[12:10] <Slart> kbp: it's basic irc stuff.. the same on almost all irc-servers.
[12:10] <Brazz> Hi there, maybe the answer is quite obvious but I was wondering... having ubuntu installed next to windows is a good idea or not? atm I'm using only ubuntu but there are some other app I'm use to that its by far better on windows and eventually I'd like to be able to use them. In the other hand I really like ubuntu and I wish to keep using it very frequently, therefore I wish to know if there's any difference in any matter betwen having ubu
[12:10] <neil_d> grawity: connection problems, I wasn't sure it had gotten though.
[12:10] <Slart> kbp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat_operator
[12:10] <kbp> Slart: oh I got it :) thanx
[12:10] <bazhang> Brazz, sure, many people dual boot
[12:11] <Brazz> bazhang: is there any difference? betwen dual boot and only ubuntu and will this dual boot somehow affect the system performance?
[12:11] <bazhang> Brazz, shouldnt no
[12:11] <Brazz> bazhang: Thank you very much
[12:12] <bazhang> Brazz, install windows first though is much easier
[12:12] <Slart> Brazz: I dual boot windows with ubuntu.. it doesn't affect either system negatively.. well.. if you don't consider the disk space that is..
[12:12] <oldude67> Brazz, you could aslo use a virtual machine to run windows inside of ubuntu.
[12:12] <Brazz> oldude67: are you talking about wine?
[12:12] <dragonrigs> helo
[12:12] <oldude67> Brazz, no more like virtual box vmware
[12:12] <dragonrigs> ami heard
[12:12] <neil_d> I am having a lot of trouble getting a microphone to work.  can someone please help me debug this?
[12:12] <Slart> !vm
[12:13] <dragonrigs> hellooooooo
[12:13] <dragonrigs> helo
[12:13] <DerGraf> hi all
[12:13] <GPL> bazhang : any progress of my webcam problem.
[12:13] <Brazz> oldude67: that would affect the performance huh?
[12:13] <DerGraf> I've fixed a bug...
[12:13] <kaddi> Brazz definitely
[12:13] <oldude67> Brazz, yes it would show a big difference
[12:13] <kbp> is there any VM that enable me to use an existing XP and not to install XP from the beginning? I dont want to install the softwares again
[12:13] <DerGraf> but i don't know the work-flow in ubuntu xD
[12:13] <bazhang> GPL, still checking
[12:13] <Slart> !bug | DerGraf
[12:13] <Brazz> thank you guys
[12:13] <GPL> ok , take your time. :)
[12:14] <DerGraf> Slart: I think I've fixed it
[12:14] <GPL> i 've Windows Vista System Recovery CD's , i cant use them to install Windows Vista on VirtualBox, any suggestions :((((
[12:14] <user101> I downloaded tar.bz2 and uncompressed to tar it expanded from 18 MB to 85 MB. Now I try to bzip2 it from my system  it compresses to only 71MB. why?
[12:14] <Slart> DerGraf: well.. report the bug, if it isn't already reported, and then you answer your own bug.. I think you upload the patch at the same place
[12:15] <Slart> user101: you used some other bzip2 setting?
[12:15] <Brazz> bazhang: atm I'm only using ubuntu, if I want to install windows will there be an option to do dual boot? or should I install windows only and then install ubuntu as second option?
[12:15] <DerGraf> Slart: and then? Is that all.. or have I do something?
[12:15] <bazhang> Brazz, then you will need to restore grub, let me get you a link
[12:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub Brazz
[12:15] <Slart> DerGraf: I'm not sure what happens after that... I'm guessing the developer of the package with the bug should answer you in the bug report
[12:16] <neil_d> Brazz: The usual practice is install Windows first then Ubuntu
[12:16] <odder> I have a weird question related to alacarte. Does anybody know why cant I change names of some apps? I have sth like "GIMP image editor" and would like to change it into "GIMP" but am unable to. Ideas?
[12:16] <kaddi> odder where?
[12:16] <kbp> Brazz: and then Ubuntu Server
[12:16] <odder> kaddi: alacarte
[12:16] <danbhfive> DerGraf: you should file the bug upstream also
[12:17] <Slart> odder: click the shortcut in the editor, properties.. change the name there?
[12:17] <odder> Slart: that's what I'm doing
[12:17] <glock6> i just got this external usb video card, any hope that it can be configured using ubuntu
[12:17] <Brazz> neil_d, bazhang: I think I'll go with neil_d, even tho I know it will work your way bazhang but I dont mind having a little extra work to get to the same place. I am saving that link tho, I'll check it out now. Thank you very much
[12:17] <bazhang> Brazz, good luck :)
[12:17] <danbhfive> Brazz: make sure to install windows to the first partition if you can
[12:18] <Slart> odder: I had to reload the menu page.. by clicking on another sub menu and then back.. then the change showed
[12:18] <user101> Slart: I used only this bzip2 -z a.tar
[12:18] <neil_d> Brazz: good luck too.
[12:18] <Slart> user101: there's probably some kind of compression setting.. there's nothing in man bzip2?
[12:18] <DerGraf> danbhfive: you mean in the "overview" section of the packet?
[12:19] <Horusofoz> Still trying to get GRUB/Ubuntu to boot from usb :( Any suggestions
[12:19] <Brazz> danbhfive: will do, thank you.
[12:19] <Slart> user101: try bzip2 -z -9 a.tar    -1 is fastest but less compression -9 is best compression but takes more time
[12:19] <danbhfive> DerGraf: did you file the bug on launchpad?  Can you post the link?
[12:20] <neil_d> I have a usb device "ID 0d8c:000e C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter (Planet UP-100, Genius G-Talk)" its a small voip phone when I plug it in and enable the microphone.  All hell breaks lose.  I get a black window popup that looks like some sort of volume control... but it flashing rapidly and using 80% of my CPU.  Is there something I can do about this?
[12:21] <odder> Slart: whoops, not working for me. I have changed most of my the app names, but few do not change, including GIMP and Inkscape
[12:21] <DerGraf> danbhfive: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgtkada2/+bug/395377
[12:22] <Slart> odder: that's weird.. not sure why it would act that way
[12:22] <Anarhist> !install
[12:23] <GPL> Anarhist : the best idea is to message ubottu, and then use bot invoking commands :)
[12:24] <odder> Slart: ok, a workaround exists. I have just removed that entry and added another one.
[12:24] <Anarhist> GPL, ok, thanks, i'll try to remember to do that in the future
[12:24] <danbhfive> DerGraf: ok, I don't know exactly what you should do, but you should ask in #ubuntu-motu
[12:24] <GPL> Anarhist: np.
[12:24] <DerGraf> ok
[12:24] <DerGraf> danbhfive: thanks :)
[12:25] <danbhfive> np
[12:26] <muxfr> Hi
[12:26] <bullgard> [Ubuntu 9.04] Synaptic lists a package name entry 'gnome-keyring-manager' but without any additional information (such as a description). What is the reason?4
[12:26] <muxfr> I'm having alot of trouble with my audio card
[12:27] <muxfr> It's an HP dv6 1105ee
[12:27] <glock6> anyone have any resources setting up a usb, dvi video adapter?
[12:27] <stefg> !intelhda | muxfr
[12:28] <hal2050> hi all
[12:28] <muxfr> ubottu, I already saw that one, doesn't help :(
[12:28] <muxfr> stefg, ya
[12:29] <muxfr> after doing everything, I just updated the latest alsa, still doesn't work.
[12:29] <sidewalk> howdy, how do i stream tv from one ubuntu machine to another?
[12:29] <danbhfive> bullgard: maybe because it doesn't exist, but is referred to by another package, say as a dependency, or provides
[12:30] <Hai> hi everyone
[12:31] <Hai> i was doing something and my wireless network got disabled. can someone help me fix it, i have a sccreen shot and syslog
[12:32] <bullgard> danbhfive: Thank you for your information. --  I do not understand the last 2 words ", or provides". Is 'provide' here a noun?
[12:32] <Windows7> bazhang: have a nice day.
[12:33] <danbhfive> bullgard: its like a depends of dependency.  Its a package option
[12:33] <miguelonnnn> hi!
[12:33] <danbhfive> bullgard: of -> or
[12:33] <miguelonnnn> please can i ask you a question? i'm really confused
[12:34] <oldude67> !ask
[12:34] <miguelonnnn> thanks oldude
[12:34] <Hai> can someone help me with my wireless network disabling problem? i can send the syslog
[12:34] <hafiz> yes
[12:34] <hafiz> ok
[12:35] <Untouchab1e> hi
[12:35] <Untouchab1e> need some help
[12:35] <Untouchab1e> got a Dell Studio XPS 13 laptop with a hybrid-sli solution (Geforce 9200m + 9400m)
[12:35] <miguelonnnn> i read that ZFS is a new filesystem developed by Sun which can hold 128 bit, which would support up HUGE size files. But there's 64 bit CPU's too, so i'm not sure if 64 bit filesystems are the same as 64 bit cpus
[12:36] <Untouchab1e> I know that the Nvidia drivers for Linux dont support, and never will support hybrid SLI. But there must be possible to manually specify that the dedicated GPU is deactivated
[12:36] <Untouchab1e> I dont care much for the ability to hotswap between the two modes as I dont need the 9400m active in Linux, and I can hotswap in Windows when I need to..
[12:36] <Untouchab1e> so I just wondered how I can blacklist the 9400m GPU in Ubuntu 9.04
[12:37] <bullgard> danbhfive: Thank you for explaining.
[12:38] <masquerade> hi, i have a problem with booting from cd while an additional harddrive is plugged in. the standard hd is directly connected to the motherboard, the additional (emtpy ntfs) is connected with  a cable like this: Motherboard > Harddrive > CD Drive
[12:38] <miguelonnnn> please can anybody help me with it?
[12:38] <hal2050> atm i'm setting up two htpcs. one is based on gentoo the other one on ubuntu. everything runs fine so far. now i'm at a point where i'd like to streamline the appereance of both systems regarding the bootprocess. well obviously there are some differences. one problem i'm trying to get rid of at the gentoo system is the following, where i'm asking myself how ubuntu achieves that. at the point when x starts up the xcursor appears for about a sec
[12:38] <tobiassjosten> My /dev/null seems to be recreated at each boot, with faulty permissions. So I'm getting error messages about not having permission to it and so bashrc, among other things, fails.
[12:38] <tobiassjosten> My solution is to do what is said in http://is.gd/2i2Oo and that works great. But I would rather not have to do that after each boot.
[12:39] <jdive> hello folks
[12:39] <jdive> would need to chat with someone with some FS knowhow
[12:39] <jdive> filesystem that is
[12:40] <Steil> jdive: whats up?
[12:40] <jdive> the question is: how to troubleshoot a rather painful and strange issue: ext4 raid 5 3 disk set,
[12:40] <Steil> eeeek, I have no idea sorry :(
[12:40] <jdive> the issue: every X seconds, not always constant, data stop flowing from disk to user space app
[12:40] <jdive> a hang of .. less than a second, then goes again
[12:41] <jdive> easy to be enoyed when listening to music for instance
[12:41] <jdive> no idea on how to troubleshoot this, no error messages from dmesg
[12:41] <jdive> one thing is, from fresh reboot, it take some time before this starts then .. it's just there.
[12:41] <stefg> jdive: try installing iotop and see if you get a clue ... what cpu is that?
[12:41] <WilliamC2> I installed Firefox 3.5 and it's being listed as Shiretoko, how come it's missing the official branding?
[12:42] <jdive> cpu is a dual core
[12:42] <jdive> let's see with iostats
[12:42] <grawity> !ff35 | WilliamC2
[12:42] <grawity> WilliamC2: See that link, it explains everything.
[12:42] <friendsbglinux> ;]
[12:42] <stefg> jdive: my idea is that the raid calculations might take too long, so I/O is interrupted
[12:43] <WilliamC2> grawity, so, I should install 3.5 manually if I want to do away with the branding
[12:43] <jdive> stefg, well how would you explore this theory ?
[12:43] <Hai> i was doing something and my wireless network got disabled. can someone help me fix it, i have a sccreen shot and syslog
[12:44] <stefg> jdive: how did you setup the raid ? chunksize? all the same harddrives (model/vendor) ?
[12:44] <jdive> all same 1T hdd
[12:44] <jdive> soft raid
[12:44] <grawity> WilliamC2: Basically...yes. Either the Mozilla daily PPAs, or use Ubuntuzilla to install the official build.
[12:44] <jdive> mm chunksize, would need to check
[12:45] <masquerade> i have a problem with booting from cd while an additional harddrive is plugged in. the standard hd is directly connected to the motherboard, the additional (emtpy ntfs) is connected with  a cable like this: Motherboard > Harddrive > CD Drive. when ever the additional hd is plugged in, i cant bood from cd
[12:45] <Viking_> morning
[12:45] <masquerade> Viking_: hi
[12:45] <Viking_> hi there
[12:45] <stefg> jdive: sudo mdadm --detail /dev/md[foo]
[12:45] <jdive> stefg chunksize is 64k
[12:46] <jdive>      Array Size : 1953519872 (1863.02 GiB 2000.40 GB)
[12:46] <jdive>   Used Dev Size : 976759936 (931.51 GiB 1000.20 GB)
[12:46] <jdive>           State : clean
[12:46] <jdive>          Layout : left-symmetric
[12:46] <jdive>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
[12:46] <jdive>        0       8       17        0      active sync   /dev/sdb1
[12:46] <jdive>        1       8       33        1      active sync   /dev/sdc1
[12:46] <jdive>        2       8       49        2      active sync   /dev/sdd1
[12:46] <FloodBot2> jdive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <vuf> my System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Rendering settings seem to not stick, so my fonts are ugly. Ideas?
[12:46] <Viking_> i just installed new drive 1.5 terabyte on my Ubuntu 9.04 but i cant read write to it can anyone tell me how i can make it r/w by all users
[12:46] <stefg> jdive: do you already have relevant data on that, or could you rebuild the array for testing purposes ?
[12:47] <Viking_> also my drive have a lost and found folder inside 70 gig
[12:47] <jdive> stefg unfortunatly, have data on it ... otherwise i would have first reformated on ext3 to see of it was FS related .. but not easy to back them out ...
[12:48] <jdive> stefg it's doable but a pain ...
[12:48] <stefg> jdive: would have been interesting to see what happens if you put a lvm volume on that array
[12:48] <masquerade> Viking_: what fileystem is it?
[12:48] <Viking_> ext3
[12:49] <Viking_> i did have fat32 on it before
[12:49] <stefg> jdive: which is recommandable anyway for that size of data ... snapshoting and taking a live backup is neat
[12:49] <jdive> stefg: yup, i could go and tune the FS choice, or the way the raid is setup which is quite trial and error, am wondering wht sort of tools there is / stats in /proc or /sys i could check aginst
[12:49] <Viking_> but it is now ext3
[12:49] <Viking_> not sure what to ad to my fstab
[12:50] <noise> hi,the volume is in max, but the sound is low
[12:50] <Viking_> so it will read and writeable
[12:50] <Frivero> hi all
[12:50] <Frivero> have a problem here....
[12:50] <jdive> stefg: it's just, the xor calcultion time is not an explanation am convined with: that would probably slow my transfer rate down but not show behaviro like this which is read stop read, then read again .. at least i guess
[12:51] <sheol_> hola....a todos...
[12:51] <Frivero> when open synaptic i keep getting this messege: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0F2D1009066ADE1D
[12:51] <Frivero> any help?
[12:51] <sheol_> saben algo de iroffer?
[12:52] <bazhang> !es | sheol_
[12:52] <bazhang> !ppagpg | Frivero
[12:52] <Mart||n> do  sudo apt-get add0gkey
[12:52] <Mart||n> or something
[12:52] <Viking_> frivero do this
[12:52] <Mart||n> someone fill that bit in
[12:53] <Mart||n> if u do sudo apt-get help
[12:53] <Viking_> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv 9072870B
[12:53] <Viking_> gpg --export --armor 9072870B | sudo apt-key add -
[12:53] <jdive> stefg thanks anyway :)
[12:53] <sheol_> ok...
[12:53] <Viking_> but change key number to whatever yours are
[12:53] <Viking_> then you should be good
[12:54] <stefg> jdive: it might not be the xor, could be a misbehaving firmware. But you're right to look for the systematic approach. Unfortunately i never had enough trouble with mdadm to hone my debugging skills on that. Try #ubuntu-server also
[12:54] <Frivero> ok, thanks
[12:54] <pellicon> hi
[12:54] <pellicon> 有说中文的么
[12:54] <Viking_> did it fix your problem
[12:54] <bazhang> !cn | pellicon
[12:55] <Mart||n> maybe the guy got  chinese chars enable and cant get the fringi thing off
[12:55] <Viking_> you welcome next time it happens do same thing
[12:55] <Mart||n> and he dont speak chinese
[12:55] <bazhang> pellicon, /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:55] <Horusofoz> Hey - I've identidied my motherboard as GA-G31M-S2L - Can anyone tell me how to set this to oort my external ubuntu?
[12:55] <jdive> stefg thanks mate !, will try out there
[12:55] <Viking_> masqurade are u here
[12:55] <pheonix> oin kubuntu
[12:56] <pellicon> thanks
[12:56] <Steil> 有说中文的么
[12:56] <bazhang> Steil, #ubuntu-cn
[12:56] <WilliamC2> lol
[12:56] <WilliamC2> moon
[12:56] <uautonom> hi guy's i need ur help
[12:56] <uautonom> http://www.networkcomputing.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_Ubuntu_Desktop.jpg.jpg
[12:56] <uautonom> i search for theing on the bottom
[12:56] <GPL> bazhang: any updates on the webcam issue.
[12:56] <uautonom> thing
[12:57] <Steil> WilliamC2: what moon?
[12:57] <Bluey_> my wireless got switched off all of a sudden. the logs says Aug 15 05:19:04 bluey-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Found radio killswitch /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_4232_rfkill_5100AGN_wlan
[12:57] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:19:04 bluey-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Found radio killswitch /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/dell_wlan_switch . can someone tell me what the problem is and if there is a fix?
[12:57] <bazhang> uautonom, you want a dock? cairo-dock and avant-window-navigator are two
[12:57] <WilliamC2> 4chan calls asian script moonspeak
[12:57] <Steil> bazhang: i got vista back on computer for work now i use ubuntu on my other personal machine!!! :)
[12:57] <uautonom> dont how it call
[12:57] <bazhang> WilliamC2, please chat elsewhere
[12:57] <Steil> i didn't get fired!
[12:58] <Steil> but now i need to know how to print
[12:58] <uautonom> this thing to scroll from firefox to other proigramms
[12:58] <Mart||n> u can havtu on a 8gb memory  usb sticke  unbun
[12:58] <Steil> can anyone help me setup my hp f3140 printer
[12:58] <Untouchab1e> Anyone? I need to disable one of the GPU's in my laptop since the nvidia drivers for Linux doesnt support hotswapping between the two hybrid-SLI modes
[12:58] <Steil> i need to print resume so i can find other job
[12:58] <bazhang> !cups | Steil
[12:58] <Untouchab1e> I reckon I could somehow blacklist the dedicated GPU..?
[12:58] <Steil> which one do i click?
[12:58] <Steil> i just want it to work
[12:58] <Steil> !boobs bazhang
[12:58] <bazhang> Steil, check the linuxprinting link
[12:59] <bazhang> Steil, and please /msg ubottu for silliness
[13:00] <Mart||n> as i usually just  cp old conf in /etc/X11
[13:00] <Steil> omg
[13:00] <Steil> what is the floodBot doing
[13:00] <Steil> did it lose its mind?
[13:00] <WilliamC2> Do the "WinPrinters" still have issues?
[13:00] <Mart||n> no
[13:00] <Euroman__> masqurade
[13:01] <glock6> can someone help me troubleshoot  sound that works using ubuntu but not mythbuntu
[13:01] <Mart||n> ok just maybe st up myth bunut to use the same sound
[13:01] <Mart||n> not pulse audio
[13:01] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[13:02] <bumbula> hi all,looking for somebody around ffm......need help ubuntu 9.04 etc.....3-4 hours....pay 100 euro   this is not a joke
[13:02] <Mart||n> what prob
[13:02] <WilliamC2> God net splits suck
[13:02] <Mart||n> lol
[13:02] <Steil> OMG
[13:02] <Steil> WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?!?
[13:02] <Steil> DID SOMEONE HACK US?!?!?
[13:02] <Mart||n> no
[13:02] <WilliamC2> netsplit
[13:02] <Mart||n> logs crash
[13:02] <Mart||n> lol
[13:02] <niko> !caps | Steil
[13:02] <stefg> !netsplit
[13:02] <Steil> omg
[13:02] <bazhang> Steil, no its a netsplit please calm down
[13:02] <Steil> are you sure nobody hacked to split it?
[13:02] <Euroman__> can anyone help me change permision on newly addded drive filesystem is ext3
[13:02] <Mart||n> nope
[13:02] <Steil> does someone have my credit card number now?
[13:03] <Mart||n> unless port 5432 is someting inportant
[13:03] <Steil> ok
[13:03] <Bluey_> This is the message i got in syslog bluey-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): supplicant connection state:  associated -> disconnected
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:13 bluey-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): supplicant connection state:  disconnected -> scanning
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:17 bluey-laptop console-kit-daemon[3117]: GLib-GObject-WARNING: IA__g_object_get_valist: value location for `gchararray' passed as NULL
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:17 bluey-laptop last message repeated 4 times
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty4 main process (2504) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Steil> can someone help me make a bash script to index all the files in /media/Music?
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty5 main process (2505) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty2 main process (2512) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty3 main process (2513) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty6 main process (2514) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop init: tty1 main process (3664) killed by TERM signal
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop console-kit-daemon[3117]: GLib-GObject-WARNING: IA__g_object_get_valist: value location for `gchararray' passed as NULL
[13:03] <Bluey_> Aug 15 05:18:18 bluey-laptop last message repeated 6 times
[13:04] <Steil> uh oh
[13:04] <bumbula> hi all,looking for somebody around ffm......need help ubuntu 9.04 etc.....3-4 hours....pay 100 euro   this is not a joke
[13:04] <Steil> he was bad
[13:04] <q0s> hey guys. i installed a new nvidia driver (185.x) for jaunty via the ubuntu-x-swap ppa. but now my xserver fails to start...
[13:04] <Steil> bumbula: ffm?
[13:04] <kaddi> !paste | Bluey_
[13:04] <bazhang> Steil, please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <Steil> can someone help me make a bash script to index all the files in /media/Music?
[13:04] <bumbula> steil....frankfurt am main
[13:05] <Steil> if you pay my plane ticket i will come
[13:05] <bumbula> lol
[13:05] <bazhang> !ot | Steil
[13:05] <Mart||n> ok get out of x
[13:05] <Mart||n> and do nvidia-settins
[13:05] <Frivero> :p
[13:06] <Steil> bazhang: why does it automatically come here if i cant chat here when i join chat program?
[13:06] <bazhang> Steil, this is support ONLY.
[13:06] <Darwin-> hello guys, I need to install a new kernel which supports rosegarden which one do you guys recommend, also where should i download from?
[13:07] <sdf> kernel.org
[13:07] <kaddi> bumbula if you're serious about paying someone to show you, you will probalby have more luck getting someone close by, by asking in #ubuntu-de . This being said, ubuntu is nice to discover on your own and if you have a specific question, you can always ask here, for free ;)
[13:07] <Bluey_> sorry, heres the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/253637/ . my wireless network got disconnected. please help me reenable it
[13:07] <bumbula> ok  nobody arounf frankfurt...try again later
[13:07] <bazhang> Darwin-, you need the -rt kernel?
[13:07] <Darwin-> sdf, thanks
[13:07] <Flimflam> hello
[13:07] <WilliamC2> Isn't there a second Frankfort?
[13:07] <Darwin-> bazhang, not shure
[13:07] <kaddi> WilliamC2 Frankfurt an der Oder ;)
[13:08] <sdf> what's rosegarden ? lol
[13:08] <Flimflam> I'll soon find out
[13:08] <bazhang> Darwin-, from synaptic package manager not kernel.org
[13:08] <q0s> hey guys. i installed a new nvidia driver (185.x) for jaunty via the ubuntu-x-swap ppa. but now my xserver fails to start...
[13:08] <bumbula> nono   frankfurt am main
[13:08] <Euroman__> cant acces my  new installed new drive ubuntu can anyone help
[13:08] <Darwin-> sdf, rosegarden is a music software, midi and audio editor
[13:08] <bazhang> bumbula, try #ubuntu-de
[13:08] <sdf> Darwin-> startdard kenel is ok
[13:09] <bumbula> ahh ok  thx  i try  lolk
[13:09] <bebebebebe> what connection manager does ubuntu use?
[13:09] <kaddi> Euroman__ what does "can't access" mean? How did you install it and what kind of drive is it?
[13:09] <Darwin-> sdf it warns me about low lactency
[13:09] <kaddi> bebebebebe default is network-manager
[13:09] <bazhang> bebebebebe, network-manager
[13:09] <Euroman__> it is a sata drive i did format it with ext3
[13:09] <sdf> Darwin-> startdard kenel is ok
[13:09] <Bluey_> are u asking me bebebebebe ?
[13:09] <sdf> Darwin-> what s your PC specs?Darwin->
[13:09] <Darwin-> sdf actually in 64 bits I have never been able to make it work
[13:10] <Euroman__> it was before fat32 but after my partition to ext3 i cant acces it
[13:10] <sdf> recompile with lowlatency settings
[13:10]  * Darwin- checks /proc/cpuinfo
[13:10] <sdf> the kernel
[13:10] <sdf> prehemtive
[13:10] <Euroman__> i wanted one big 1.5 tearbyt drive ext3
[13:10] <Tr1n_> Euroman:  have you mounted it as type ext3?
[13:11] <Euroman__> for some reason inside drive now there is a folder saying lost and fond
[13:11] <Darwin-> sdf AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ | 2G ram |audio sound blaster SE 7.1
[13:11] <Euroman__> hi trin what do i have to ad to my fstab
[13:11] <stefg> Euroman__: that's a lot of data to lose :-) how are you going to back it up?
[13:11] <Mart||n> lzma
[13:11] <Mart||n> maybe
[13:11] <haf1z> guys, do you u guys have any idea on watchin espn live in ubuntu?
[13:11] <Mart||n> convert it to base 65525
[13:11] <Euroman__> for now i will back it up on other drives i have
[13:11] <sdf> Darwin-> recompile the kenel with lowlatency desktop option
[13:12] <Euroman__> i allready saved all my data
[13:12] <haf1z> in windows we hve sopcast, how bout ubuntu?
[13:12] <Euroman__> u right stefg
[13:12] <Darwin-> sdf can u link me to a  howto?
[13:12] <Tr1n_> Euroman:  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[13:12] <Guidbuntu> I had a wild afternoon yesterday
[13:12] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:12] <sdf> euhh i simple google wwill do it mate
[13:12] <Euroman__> thank u trin
[13:12] <stefg> Euroman__: pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[13:12] <Steil> how do i install ubuntu over network connection?
[13:12] <Euroman__> ok
[13:13] <jrib> haf1z: espn 360 i have to use windows in a virtual machine because espn has their own client :/
[13:13] <Darwin-> sdf, thx for your help
[13:13] <sdf> ;)
[13:13]  * Darwin- waves
[13:13] <Rabbitbunny> Steil: netboot. Uses.... PXE?
[13:13] <haf1z> jrib: do i need to pay anything? coz sopcast is free
[13:13] <sdf> of coursse
[13:14] <uautonom> when i search for cairo-dock in Synaptic he finds only the outdatet version 1.63...
[13:14] <sdf> pxe
[13:14] <uautonom> can someone help?
[13:14] <Euroman__> Disk /dev/sda: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes
[13:14] <Euroman__> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 182401 cylinders
[13:14] <Euroman__> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:14] <Euroman__> Disk identifier: 0x0000c468
[13:14] <Euroman__>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:14] <Euroman__> /dev/sda1               1      182401  1465136001   83  Linux
[13:14] <Euroman__> Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[13:14] <Nightwolf> bumbula: hi
[13:14] <Euroman__> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[13:14] <Euroman__> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:14] <Euroman__> Disk identifier: 0x0004a227
[13:14] <Euroman__>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:14] <niko> !paste | Euroman__
[13:14] <jrib> haf1z: well if you use windows in a virtual machine then you can use sopcast in there...
[13:14] <Euroman__> /dev/sdb1               1       18662   149902483+  83  Linux
[13:14] <Euroman__> /dev/sdb2           18663       19457     6385837+   5  Extended
[13:14] <Euroman__> /dev/sdb5           18663       19457     6385806   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[13:14] <haf1z> jrib: how about wine?
[13:14] <jrib> !appdb | haf1z
[13:14] <jrib> haf1z: check
[13:15] <stefg> !paste | Euroman__
[13:15] <Guidbuntu> ok, this may sound stupid, but how do you switch between desktops just by using the mouse wheel?
[13:15] <Mart||n> fstab along lines of /dev/sda1-3 for each typ /place default 0 0
[13:15] <Mart||n> i think
[13:15] <Mart||n> sorry befafe default thers teh file type
[13:15] <Mart||n> eg ext2
[13:15] <haf1z> jrib: i dont think wine support sopcast
[13:15] <Mart||n> or swap
[13:15] <Mart||n> or ext3
[13:15] <jrib> haf1z: did you check?
[13:15] <Euroman__> stefg
[13:15] <Euroman__> did u see it
[13:15] <grawity> Guidbuntu: If you use Compiz, you can just point to the desktop and scroll.
[13:15] <haf1z> jrib: i got wine in my ubuntu yesterday
[13:16] <stefg> Euroman__: sudo apt-get install pastebinit ... then run sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit and post the link you get in here
[13:16] <jrib> haf1z: ok, did you check appdb?
[13:16] <Euroman__> ok thanks
[13:16] <haf1z> jrib: yeah, i checked. sopcast is on the list
[13:16] <Guidbuntu> grawity: what's that?
[13:16] <Euroman__> ok thanks
[13:16] <haf1z> jrib: yeah, i checked. sopcast isnt on the list
[13:16] <uautonom> why he found only the outdatet version from cairo-dock?
[13:16] <grawity> Guidbuntu: ...do you have desktop effects on?
[13:16] <Guidbuntu> it's turned on
[13:16] <Dylan_> ffs why does ubuntu fail so bad
[13:16] <grawity> Guidbuntu: Then Compiz should be active.
[13:16] <bazhang> Dylan_, watch the language
[13:17] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:17] <Guidbuntu> though every time I scroll it only scrolls to the right workspace and not to the left space
[13:17] <jrib> haf1z: I just found it in appdb, check again
[13:17]  * grawity thinks "ffs why do other distro users fail so bad at complaining"
[13:17] <jrib> haf1z: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5668
[13:17] <haf1z> jrib: sory for that. its on my results as well. i might b mistype yday
[13:18] <jrib> haf1z: sopcast also seems to have native linux versions
[13:18] <haf1z> jrib: do you think it will work on 9.04
[13:18] <ircfine> hello, what's the problem with empathy ,i can not login in empathy , Authentication failed, "Enter password for default keyring to unlock"  it is locked /usr/bin/empathy   .  what to do ?
[13:18] <Euroman__> http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:18] <Mart||n> it tell u if needing upgrade ithink
[13:18] <Mart||n> u own paassword
[13:18] <stefg> !who | Euroman__
[13:19] <stefg> Euroman__: got it
[13:19] <grawity> ircfine: Have you changed your Ubuntu password recently?
[13:19] <Euroman__> steg good
[13:19] <Euroman__> thank u very much for help
[13:19] <Guidbuntu> I just had ... an EXTREME FAIL moment with my Windows XP installation ... my boot partition gave me a message "Error loading the OS" message and I had to reach for the Ubuntu Live CD and I had to grab TestDisk 6.11
[13:19] <Euroman__> my sdb drive is for system
[13:19] <ircfine> grawity: no
[13:20] <jrib> haf1z: if you google "ubuntu sopcast" you'll get a bunch of forum threads about it, no idea how well they work
[13:20] <Guidbuntu> thank goodness I recovered my files, I didn't have any backups on hand
[13:20] <Euroman__> i keep data separate on my new drive thats the idea
[13:20] <haf1z> jrib: ok. thx for ur infos
[13:20] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:20] <stefg> Euroman__: first of all i'd put the disk on a different port (hardwarewise) to avoid problems. the big one ist now disk 1, while the system is on disk 2. you'll break grub with the next kernel update
[13:21] <Mart||n> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:21] <Mart||n> for conf for grub
[13:21] <Revenous> hey when is the fucking server going to back online?
[13:21] <Euroman__> ok steg how can i go about doing that easy way can you guide me
[13:21] <stefg> Euroman__: or you might simply swap the two harddisk cables
[13:21] <grawity> Revenous: We had a fucking server? Details please.
[13:21] <ircfine> grawity: giving password or not , same thing " "Enter password for default keyring to unlock"  it is locked /usr/bin/empathy   .  what to do ?"
[13:22] <Euroman__> yes probally easier
[13:22] <grawity> ircfine: The keyring password is usually the same as your login password.
[13:22] <simplexio> Euroman__: or simply install grub to every hd you have
[13:22] <Mart||n> easyu to fix if u dont wanna swap disk
[13:22] <Mart||n> due to raid setup
[13:22] <Revenous> i wish but you know what i mean
[13:22] <grawity> ircfine: If you cannot remember it, you can delete the keyring.
[13:22] <grawity> Revenous: No, I don't.
[13:22] <jrib> Revenous: I'm pretty sure no one does.
[13:22] <Euroman__> thanks everyone
[13:22] <Bluey_> can anyone help me with my wireless network problem?? here the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/253637/ .......
[13:22] <Revenous> hmmmmmm
[13:22] <Mart||n> log of wat
[13:22] <ftab> how I disable the evolution keyring which asks me for root password when even I start it
[13:22] <Euroman__> simplexic
[13:22] <simplexio> Euroman__: offcourse, when pointing /boot or / you may have manually edit grub boot after you take hd out
[13:22] <ircfine> grawity: but it's not working , i am giving the password , that password to install something with sudo aptitude "
[13:22] <Mart||n> anything interesting
[13:23] <Euroman__> simplexic thanks
[13:23] <Mart||n> he didnt say disable he said delete ur  one
[13:23] <ircfine> grawity: how can i delete the keyring ?
[13:23] <Boohbah> Revenous: which server are you referring to?
[13:23] <Mart||n> not teh owners one
[13:23] <pheonix> what is compiz manager equivalent in kubuntu
[13:23] <Euroman__> stefg and simpleaxic thanks for help
[13:23] <grawity> ircfine: Open Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys. Then click the "Passwords" tab. It should list at least one keyring... right-click and delete.
[13:23] <Revenous> i guess i'm in the wrong chat... oh well... it's lastco.net
[13:23] <grawity> ircfine: Then restart Empathy.
[13:23] <simplexio> Euroman__: its woth o not c
[13:23] <Euroman__> is there anyway i can get read write permission on it now
[13:23] <jrib> Revenous: this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:23] <grawity> Revenous: Is lastco.net in any way related to the Ubuntu operating system?
[13:24] <grawity> Euroman__: Delete your keyring.
[13:24] <simplexio> Euroman__: ... with :)
[13:24] <Euroman__> ok thanks simplexio
[13:24] <grawity> Revenous: There is a channel #LastCo that may be related.
[13:24] <Revenous> not sure don't know and i am so sleepy and over tired i have no i dea what i'm doing
[13:24] <ircfine> grawity: from the password tab , or other encryption... ?
[13:24] <Euroman__> grawity dlete my keyring what will that do
[13:25] <Boohbah> Revenous: playing MMORPGs all night will do that
[13:25] <grawity> ircfine: The program should have four tabs - choose the last one, named "Passwords".
[13:25] <Revenous> hahaha well i have no gf atm so i have nothing else to do XD
[13:25] <Boohbah> Revenous: why not install ubuntu while you're here?
[13:26] <Mart||n> lol
[13:26] <Mart||n> me playing gow2
[13:26] <grawity> Revenous: I suggest porn.
[13:26] <Revenous> what is it what does it do and whate are the uses
[13:26] <grawity> Euroman__: Evolution saves your passwords in GNOME Keyring. If it cannot access the keyring, deleting it should help.
[13:26] <q0s> how do i find out in which package the file nvidia.ko exists?
[13:26] <Revenous> grawity: already happened but nothing XD
[13:26] <maul> ciao
[13:27] <Euroman__> grawity my problem is not being able to read write to my new hard drive installed
[13:27] <grawity> ircfine: Did you find and delete the keyring?
[13:27] <grawity> Euroman__: How did you install the drive, is it an external one?
[13:27] <moorthyvsm> Hello
[13:27] <Mart||n> then u not  booting the harddrive
[13:27] <Mart||n> please remoce  cd
[13:27] <Euroman__> no internal
[13:27] <stefg> !find nvidia.ko | q0s
[13:27] <Mart||n> dvd
[13:27] <Mart||n> lol
[13:27] <moorthyvsm> I am new be
[13:27] <ircfine> grawity: i deleted the key from the password tab
[13:27] <Mart||n> usb
[13:28] <moorthyvsm> can any one help me?
[13:28] <Mart||n> how did u install it
[13:28] <Euroman__> internal grawiity
[13:28] <Mart||n> the   generic way
[13:28] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:28] <grawity> ircfine: Now restart Empathy. It should ask for your IM passwords (Yahoo, MSN, others) and store them.
[13:28] <Mart||n> oh right u had a surge of electrictric that affect teh magnet pol of harddrive
[13:28] <Mart||n> and currpoted teh data
[13:28] <Mart||n> lol
[13:28] <Mart||n> hmmm
[13:28] <q0s> stefg, but some package must have installed this file :)
[13:28] <Euroman__> here u go grawity  http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:28] <Mart||n> wouldnt  explain a fuild gravity checker tho would it
[13:28] <moorthyvsm> Hi Euroman
[13:29] <simplexio> Euroman__: can't rw ? after you have make filesystem on disk or cant make fs at all
[13:29] <moorthyvsm> can you guide me here?
[13:29] <moorthyvsm> any one?
[13:29] <Mart||n> no
[13:29] <stefg> q0s: it's the nvidia kernel driver, pörolly build by dkms ... linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) has it
[13:29] <Frivero> :p
[13:29] <nasser> hello
[13:29] <grawity> moorthyvsm: What is the problem you have?
[13:29] <simplexio> Euroman__: if you did make fs there, then problem is just that you have mount fs eith read only option, remount fixes that
[13:29] <kaddi> !hi |nasser
[13:29] <Euroman__> hello simplexio i can mout it but cant create folder or anything inside of it saying im not owner
[13:30] <Euroman__> as root i can do it all
[13:30] <simplexio> Euroman__: ahh... so its just permission problem
[13:30] <saturnfossil> use un restricted nvidia driver may good
[13:30] <nasser> Can I change the notify-osd font size ?
[13:30] <Euroman__> yes simpleaxio
[13:30] <simplexio> Euroman__: ntfs or proper linux fs ?
[13:30] <saturnfossil> get it from nvidia.com
[13:30] <haf1z> guys. what is this command for "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:30] <stefg> ??
[13:30] <Euroman__> simplexio it is ext3
[13:31] <Euroman__> simplexio  http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:31] <jrib> haf1z: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man8/apt-get.8.html read about the --fix-broken option
[13:31] <ircfine> grawity: thank you very much
[13:31] <Mart||n> u over burning
[13:31] <Mart||n> or faulty disc
[13:32] <Mart||n> lower the  over burn by 2 mins of  what u thinkit should be
[13:32] <Mart||n> or do short lead out
[13:32] <Mart||n> or just ignore if u know the data would of fitted if it could close  entirly
[13:32] <Frivero> knock knock...
[13:32] <stefg> Euroman__: you should mount the drive by /etc/fstab on some sensible mount point (i use /store for such things). But i really recommend fixing the drive order before doing that
[13:32] <nasser> I'm using 9.10 alpha 4 and the notify-osd fonts are small for my taste, can I make them bigger ?
[13:32] <bazhang> nasser, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[13:32] <Bluey_> can anyone tell me how to reenable wireless network discovery after it has been automotically diabled?
[13:32] <cutout> am having problems connecting to vpn
[13:32] <nasser> oh sorry
[13:33] <Euroman__> stefg i wold like todo that can i do it without opening computer
[13:33] <bazhang> Bluey_, does ifconfig show it in terminal
[13:33] <ikanobori> cutout: 'Problems connecting to vpn' is a bad description of the problem.
[13:33] <haf1z> jrib: is there any command that will let us know whick program were not in use and can be remove
[13:33] <Guidbuntu> xchat went splat
[13:33] <Bluey_> bazhang, lemme check
[13:33] <jrib> haf1z: see "autoremove" in the same link
[13:33] <Euroman__> steg what i have done beofre is just mount my big drive after boot
[13:33] <Mart||n> yus
[13:33] <stefg> Euroman__: no ... but it should be easy to just swap the harddisk cables around
[13:34] <Mart||n> ps -aux
[13:34] <bazhang> Mart||n, ??
[13:34] <grawity> Mart||n: correction: ps aux
[13:34] <Euroman__> stefg i mount the new drive after boot
[13:34] <rapha> what was the karmic channel called again?
[13:34] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <grawity> rapha: #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <Euroman__> sure
[13:34] <Boohbah> rapha: #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <cutout> ikanobori will I installed pptp and configured it but it refuse to connect it says connection failed
[13:34] <rapha> thanks!
[13:34] <Guidbuntu> ?!?
[13:34] <rapha> strange
[13:34] <rapha> doesnt let me join
[13:34] <haf1z> jrib:  can help me out with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/253644/
[13:34] <Guidbuntu> what is "karmic" for, anyway?
[13:34] <bazhang> karmic koala
[13:34] <rapha> Guidbuntu: short for karmic koala (ubuntu 9.10)
[13:34] <Boohbah> rapha: is your nick identified?
[13:34] <Euroman__> ok after i do that stefg i will still ahve the problem
[13:34] <rapha> Boohbah: i'm even cloaked
[13:34] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:34] <Boohbah> Guidbuntu: it is the development version of ubuntu
[13:35] <Bluey_> bazhang, yup seems like it, i ran afconfig and i get eth0, lo, wlan0 and wmaster0
[13:35] <rapha> lol
[13:35] <Boohbah> rapha: maybe ask #freenode
[13:35] <rapha> Boohbah: it's an irssi problem i've joined too many channels lol
[13:35] <Mart||n> just do the  program way of  updating
[13:35] <ikanobori> cutout: That can mean anything from a wide range of problems. Including wrong username/password.
[13:35] <Mart||n> e.g in the help
[13:35] <jrib> haf1z: read: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[13:35] <Mart||n> as there is a unbutu pakage
[13:35] <Mart||n> i think
[13:35] <simplexio> Euroman__: in that case just "mount /dev/sda1 /test" should work if not try add "-o rw"
[13:35] <Mart||n> for the update
[13:35] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <Boohbah> rapha: ahh, there is also a server-side limit on number of channels
[13:35] <grawity> rapha: Freenode limits you to 20 channels per connection -- you can ask for removal of the limit though.
[13:35] <Pirate_Hunter> can anyone suggest a good alternative to pidgin that works in cli/tty i am looking for protocols like msn, aim, facebook & google (optional)
[13:35] <grawity> rapha: Just ask in #freenode :)
[13:35] <Mart||n> or the  unified version of installing
[13:35] <bazhang> Bluey_, which chipset check lspci or lsusb (depending if it is pci or usb)
[13:35] <stefg> Euroman__: there is no problem... you just need to properly set the drive up. That requires making a mount point, change ownership to it, and add a line in /etc/fstab
[13:35] <Mart||n> as it did for me with no probs
[13:35] <WinterWeaver> can anyone help me set up a wireless ad-hoc network between 2 ubuntu machines using network manager? I tried following this guide, but no success: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless?highlight=(ad-hoc)
[13:35] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Finch supports everything Pidgin does.
[13:35] <Frivero> there isnt
[13:35] <cutout> the ip/username/password are good I connected from xp machine
[13:36] <Q|> Does anyone have an idea why my flash plugin eats 50% CPU-Time? (Jaunty)
[13:36] <Mart||n> u set up  static ip  on both
[13:36] <Mart||n> and have same adhoc name
[13:36] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: It even uses the same backend. Also, by the way, the "google" protocol is actually called XMPP (previously Jabber)
[13:36] <Euroman__> stefg thank you very much
[13:36] <Mart||n> and then see if u can ping each machine
[13:36] <Mart||n> if so u have a connection
[13:36] <cutout> ikanobori the ip/username/password are good I connected from xp machine
[13:36] <Mart||n> if not stick one in  ap mode
[13:36] <Boohbah> Q|: because it's doing cpu-intensive processing
[13:36] <bazhang> !enter
[13:36] <stefg> Euroman__: but there is no use in doing that before the drives are in proper order
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, oooh thanks and it is meant for cli/tty no gui at all? how user friendly is it?
[13:36] <Mart||n> and then use one  wireless to connect to he other like a  dsl wireless connection
[13:36] <ikanobori> cutout: That says nothing about you typing them in correctly again, but let's assume you did ;-)
[13:36] <Mart||n> lol
[13:36] <Euroman__> simplexio thanks willl try
[13:37] <Q|> Boohbah: But it did not behave like that with Hardy
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori eill Idid
[13:37] <ikanobori> cutout: Are the encryption settings allright?
[13:37] <WinterWeaver> hehe Mart||n ... thanks I'll have a look
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Finch is the tty version of Pidgin, yes. (I have never used it though.)
[13:37] <cutout> hmmm
[13:37] <Mart||n> try with out encyption
[13:37] <Mart||n> first
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: If you do not like Finch, you can try CenterIM too.
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori what kind of encryption should I use
[13:37] <Euroman__> stefg i will see if i cant get that done today i cant easy get my computer out from where it is sitting
[13:37] <Mart||n> nps
[13:37] <ikanobori> cutout: Depends on the VPN you are connecting to.
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: And there's also Bitlbee, which makes everything look like IRC
[13:37] <Mart||n> why u need to get comp out
[13:37] <Mart||n> whats prob
[13:37] <Meccano> Hello everyone
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori in windows nothing is specified
[13:37] <haf1z> guys, how do i open my Repositories?
[13:38] <Mart||n> please say my name if u want me to see it
[13:38] <Euroman__> stefg but i will do it first thing
[13:38] <stefg> Euroman__: how did the big drive get in ?
[13:38] <Bluey_> bazhang, intel corp wireless wifi link 5100
[13:38] <Mart||n> boot to live distro
[13:38] <Euroman__> wel when i build the computer recent
[13:38] <jrib> haf1z: what does it mean to "open repositories"?  What are you trying to do?
[13:38] <Mart||n> cfdisk /dev/sdb
[13:38] <ikanobori> cutout: Are you connecting to a windows vpn?
[13:38] <bazhang> Bluey_, do you see drivers for it in hardware drivers
[13:38] <Mart||n> adn that maybe  correct without  chagne the drive letter frist
[13:38] <Mart||n> well device name
[13:38] <cutout> ikanobori yes
[13:38] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity,  will have a look at both of them, in your opinion how easy it is to use them or do i need to mess with lots of config files?
[13:38] <Mart||n> e.g /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[13:38] <Mart||n> /dev/sdd
[13:39] <Mart||n> unles it ide
[13:39] <Mart||n> old style
[13:39] <haf1z> jrib: ok.i found it. thx
[13:39] <Mart||n> then u would use /dev/hda
[13:39] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Euroman__> stefg here it is my blog http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/new-computer-build/
[13:39] <Bluey_> bazhang, it was working perfecly yesterday. do u want to see the log from when it got disabled? i think the drivers are installed since it was working yesterday
[13:39] <ikanobori> cutout: And you have set the correct $SERVER, $DOMAIN? Have you tried with and without encryption?
[13:39] <Technocrat> ALL: Can anyone help me ! I am using Intrepid and looking for php plugins for eclipse
[13:39] <Mart||n> maybe u need to mkfs.ext3 the drive
[13:39] <Mart||n> cos u havec 2 linux system u  want
[13:39] <Euroman__> stefg i been building like 5 new systems recently
[13:39] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Messing with configs shouldn't be needed. Actually, if you already use Pidgin, then Finch will use the same configs.
[13:39] <bazhang> Bluey_, is the wifi spot open or encrypted
[13:39] <Bluey_> its open
[13:40] <cutout> ikanobori what domain but I'll try with and without encryption now
[13:40] <ikanobori> cutout: The network domain the VPN uses.
[13:40] <bazhang> Bluey_, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return (paste.ubuntu.com with results)
[13:40] <Bluey_> bazhang, i m using this comp from the same network in a hotel
[13:40] <ikanobori> Probably, your company.
[13:40] <ircfine> grawity: how can i stop displaying offline friends in empathy ?
[13:40] <cutout> ikanobori is it an IP
[13:40] <Mart||n> if he is dhcped
[13:41] <Mart||n> then he could test with just a ping
[13:41] <Mart||n> of other vpn ip
[13:41] <stefg> Euroman__: i see ... as a word of advice: instead of spending money on blue case light, i'd rather buy a second 1,5 TB drive and do a raid 1 ...
[13:41] <Guidbuntu> xchat went splat again
[13:41] <ircfine> how can i stop displaying offline friends in empathy ?
[13:41] <Mart||n> e.g see if dhcp worked
[13:41] <Mart||n> or not
[13:41] <grawity> ircfine: There should be an option in the menus...I don't have empathy at the moment, so you'll need to find it yourself.
[13:41] <Mart||n> and wether it is needed for his problem
[13:41] <ikanobori> Mart||n: He can't even set up the PPTP tunnel.
[13:41] <bazhang> Mart||n, dont use enter as punctuation
[13:41] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, not on the box i just configured and i really wish not to install X on it, well will search for instruction on it
[13:41] <Euroman__> stefg ha ha i dont really spend much on that came with my sniper case
[13:41] <Guidbuntu> second time this has happened
[13:41] <Mart||n> lol
[13:41] <ikanobori> cutout: Let me put it this way, PPTP tunneling (VPN), works, if your settings are correct.
[13:41] <ikanobori> It won't magically *not* work.
[13:42] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Copying existing Pidgin conf works too. Finch and CenterIM are both quite easy though.
[13:42] <Guidbuntu> turned off the plugins
[13:42] <ircfine> grawity: view offline contact > view but it is unchecked , still the offline friends are in display . should i check this ?
[13:42] <Euroman__> stefg if u read review on that coolermaster case should be the top of the line
[13:42] <userbn> ow...
[13:42] <Meccano> Hello everyone
[13:42] <grawity> ircfine: Try toggling it... maybe they are online actually :\
[13:42] <jubei> join #
[13:43] <Euroman__> stefg i was thinking about raid
[13:43] <stefg> Euroman__: and after you have the big drive set up you should think about a smarter partitioning scheme for the actual system on th 160 GB drive. having /boot and /home separate has some advantages
[13:43] <ircfine> grawity: i checked the offline contacts , nothing happens
[13:43] <Mart||n> ues
[13:43] <Euroman__> stefg ok i will keep that in mind
[13:44] <Mart||n> like firmware type shadow
[13:44] <Euroman__> stefg so when u do install you jsut do your own partitioning
[13:44] <rek> bazhang:  settigs system pc connection UMS  tick it in the player and u r set :-)
[13:44] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:44] <stefg> Euroman__: my experience says that it's always hard to backup large drives. so the least you can do is buying a life insurance for your data against hd-failure by doing a mirror raid
[13:44] <Euroman__> stefg see what i did was just let grub handle it
[13:45] <stefg> Euroman__: but you installed before the big disk went in, right?
[13:45] <Euroman__> stefg you are totaly right i can only agree with u
[13:45] <Euroman__> stefg yes thats what i did
[13:45] <Mart||n> to back up a drive with some decent backup ooption ...cos u  reworte some configs or  maybe delete  200 gb
[13:45] <rek> bazhang i have som trouble creating a sheared folder
[13:45] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, ok just installed reading man pages might just copy my current pidgin conf on my main comp thank you
[13:45] <rek> must configure samba
[13:45] <Euroman__> i was just looking at building nice system with smaller drive for my os
[13:45] <Mart||n> u could par the whole patiotin every nite in to bout 100gb pars
[13:46] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: That should work. (It's in ~/.purple/)
[13:46] <abdo> hi all
[13:46] <Mart||n> and u will have a daily recovery
[13:46] <bazhang> rek, using samba? nfs? please clarify for the channel
[13:46] <Mart||n> system that is  damage proof
[13:46] <abdo> I have a problem with pidgin
[13:46] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:46] <Euroman__> stefg and then i later added my 1.5tb
[13:46] <Mart||n> or at  this to the point of a small revoery company  fixing it in a few hours then a few millions years
[13:46] <Slart> abdo: what is the problem?
[13:46] <rek> i have gnome so i have only samba
[13:46] <abdo> evry time i tried to access my hotmail account
[13:46] <stefg> Euroman__: and the "wrong" disk order now is a time bomb... when the kernel gets updated or grub needs rewriting it will write to the wrong disk...  box won't boot
[13:46] <rek> yep must onfigure it correctly
[13:46] <Euroman__> stefg i do have another sata 500 gig drive but its close to full
[13:46] <Mart||n> due to only need to  replace the data to another device using the pars  for  correcting any data damage
[13:46] <Mart||n> or different
[13:46] <grawity> abdo: You mean MSN?
[13:47] <Zippert> Tog mig friheten att ändra lite i FlashGuiden för ubuntu
[13:47] <abdo> grawity
[13:47] <Euroman__> stefg i hear u
[13:47] <Mart||n> no u only need 1tenth for a for anice revoery
[13:47] <Slart> Zippert: tell the people in #ubuntu-se =)
[13:47] <Zippert> Sorry
[13:47] <abdo> grawity, yes
[13:47] <Mart||n> or maybe 200 gb on 1.5 system
[13:47] <Slart> Zippert: no worries
[13:47] <Euroman__> they way it is now larger drive dont boot automatic
[13:47] <Lunixed> Is there a Integrated Apache,mysql,phpmyadmin Server (Like wamp in wondows) in Linux ?
[13:47] <Julia> how can I make my own locale?
[13:47] <ircfine> grawity: can't login for an yahoo id , network error
[13:47] <Euroman__> stefg i mount larger drive manual after boot
[13:47] <Mart||n> no as teh 1024 sector
[13:47] <Julia> to change format
[13:47] <Mart||n> u have to have boot under 128 mb i think
[13:47] <Mart||n> maybe smaller
[13:48] <abdo> grawity, unable to authenticate authinication faluire
[13:48] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:48] <Mart||n> or enable  1024 limit fix
[13:48] <bazhang> Mart||n, who are you talking to
[13:48] <Slart> !enter | Mart||n, just so you don't forget..
[13:49] <Meccano> Already tried the forums and wouldn't like to file a bug if not necessary
[13:49] <Lunixed> Is there a Integrated Apache,mysql,phpmyadmin Server (Like wamp in wondows) in Linux ?
[13:49] <bazhang> Mart||n, prefix their name to your answers, and keep it on one line
[13:49] <Slart> !lamp
[13:49] <bazhang> Lunixed, yes see above
[13:49] <Euroman__> stefg can i right now do it like that manual mount it and then when getting another 1.5 change everything
[13:49] <grawity> Lunixed: Apache + MySQL + phpMyAdmin, of course :) See the message from ubottu.
[13:49] <abdo> Slart, every time i try to access login msn account using pidgin
[13:49] <isaac_> Is it possible to install Ubuntu to a flash drive........... just a regular install from the live cd........... and then clone it to other flash drives?
[13:49] <grawity> isaac_: Yes.
[13:49] <Lunixed> Thanks bazhang grawity :)
[13:50] <sthalik> hay anyone has the exploit fix for karmic?
[13:50] <Slart> abdo: ah.. you're using MSN.... so what happens when you try? you get some kind of error message? or it just doesn't work?
[13:50] <abdo> Slart, unable to authenticate authentication faluire
[13:50] <Bluey_> bazhang, sorry for being later.. heres the link fo the dhclient output
[13:50] <Slart> !karmic | sthalik
[13:50] <Bluey_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/253648/
[13:50] <isaac_> grawity how do you copy the whole thing as bootable?  I keep getting files, but no boot.
[13:50] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:50] <Meccano> guess ,not...
[13:50] <sthalik> yeah i know it will break
[13:50] <abdo> Slart, this what i saw
[13:50] <Slart> abdo: are you running 9.04 ? what version of pidgin?
[13:50] <isaac_> Meccano patience.
[13:51] <isaac_> !patience | Meccano
[13:51] <Meccano> Ah at least an answer... thx isaac
[13:51] <abdo> Slart: yes I 'm running 9.04
[13:51] <bazhang> Bluey_, seems you need to associate with the AP here is a cli how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[13:51] <Slart> sthalik: that wasn't the important part of that message.. the important stuff was "support in #ubuntu+1" =)
[13:51] <Meccano> Just didn't watn  to flood the chat....
[13:51] <stefg> Euroman__: mkdir /media/bigdisk , sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/bigdisk ...
[13:51] <Meccano> No pb with waiting....
[13:51] <ongun> hi
[13:52] <Slart> abdo: what version of pidgin?
[13:52] <Meccano> Thx ubottu
[13:52] <ongun> ive got a prob.
[13:52] <abdo> Slart, 2.5.5
[13:52] <IdleOne> Meccano, please ask your question giving as much relevant info as possible in one posting.
[13:52] <ongun> who can help to me
[13:52] <Meccano> K idleone
[13:52] <abdo> Slart: 2.5.5
[13:52] <bazhang> ongun, ask all on one line
[13:53] <ongun> i opened pc with live cd
[13:53] <ongun> but i cant use the net
[13:53] <Euroman__> stefg ok and what about read write permisions
[13:53] <ongun> why ?
[13:53] <IdleOne> isaac_, in the future before telling people to chill, let them ask the question.
[13:53] <Meccano> No sound in one account (didn't upgrade..). Sound is fine in other account. Jaunty 9.04. AMD64
[13:53] <Slart> abdo: hmm.. that's the same version that I have.. and I can connect to msn just fine...  what does it say in the advanced settings of your msn account?
[13:53] <Bluey_> bazhang, thanks lemme try
[13:54] <stefg> Euroman__: you should be able to make a dir on /media/bigdisk , right?
[13:54] <Euroman__> stefg i can tell you know your stuff and i really apreciate all your help and time
[13:54] <Euroman__> stefg i will try that right now hold on
[13:55] <Meccano> No sound on GDM. No sound in one account. Sound is fine in other account. Jaunty 9.04. AMD64
[13:55] <TwoD_> I've got eth0 and wlan0 connected. eth0 used to be set to a router which had an internet connection, but that is now instead wlan0, but I can't access the net without disconnecting eth0. How do I set wlan0 to be the default route for internet access? (Both are a 192.168.0.x LAN with 192.168.0.1 as routers)
[13:55] <Slart> Meccano: isn't there an "audio" group the user has to be included in? or that was in some earlier version of ubuntu
[13:55] <abdo> Slart: protocol=MSN  , xxxx@hotmail.com  , password=xxxxx ,
[13:55] <Mart||n> why would u want both
[13:56] <hafiz> guys, do you think there;s a problem with my ubuntu http://imagebin.org/59709
[13:56] <Mart||n> for example
[13:56] <Slart> abdo: the "Advanced" tab
[13:56] <bazhang> !who | Mart||n
[13:56] <Mrokii> hello. Removing apps completely doesn't work for me. No matter if I use the GUI (synaptic) or use "apt-get purge", the preferences-files stay on my HD.
[13:56] <Meccano> Hi Slart. Sound worked fine everywhere and suddenly no sound in one account.... weird
[13:56] <isaac_> IdleOne yup.   I got the wrong ubottu reference is all :/
[13:56] <Mart||n> sorry why would u want  lan and wlan on the same router
[13:56] <Mrokii> I am using Ubunut 64-bit 9.0.4, btw.
[13:56] <IdleOne> isaac_, it happens :)
[13:56] <Mart||n> not  with probs it dont
[13:57] <bazhang> Mart||n, tab complete the users name as a prefix to your answers please (first three or so letters then tab key)
[13:57] <hafiz> IdleOne: what problem with my firefox http://imagebin.org/59709 i restarted my firefox but still the same
[13:57] <Slart> abdo: I've got "Server: messenger.hotmail.com", "Port: 1863" "Use http method is not checked"
[13:57] <abdo> Slaert: server=messenger.hotmail.com , port=1863, proxy type=use gnome proxy type
[13:57] <IdleOne> hafiz, what did you do before you got that?
[13:57] <Slart> Meccano: if you go to System, Administration, Users and groups
[13:57] <abdo> Slart: server=messenger.hotmail.com , port=1863, proxy type=use gnome proxy type
[13:58] <abdo> Slart: also as you
[13:58] <Meccano> checking....
[13:58] <hafiz> IdleOne: i run sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:58] <hafiz> IdleOne: thats it i do
[13:58] <Euroman__> stefg i did it and it mount but it will not let me create folder or anythin inside
[13:58] <muxfr> allright, can it be a bug in ubuntu, that 's preventing my audio from starting even though the card is recognized?
[13:59] <Slart> Meccano: properties for the user.. check the tab "User privileges".. there should be a  "Use audio devices".. try checking that box and see if sound starts working
[13:59] <Euroman__> stefg saying i am not the owner
[13:59] <Mart||n> do sudo mnt
[13:59] <Mart||n> then
[13:59] <IdleOne> hafiz, that is the login for freenode webchat, I believe you need to enter a nickname and a #channel then click login
[13:59] <Slart> Meccano: afaik that is the same thing as making sure the user is in the "audio" group
[13:59] <Euroman__> stefg when i did partition with gparted i did it with partmaigc disk
[13:59] <abdo> Slart: I can't find where is the problem
[13:59] <IdleOne> err click connect that is
[14:00] <Slart> abdo: neither can I... it seems we have the same settings.. can you login to your hotmail account to make sure it still exists?
[14:00] <abdo> yes
[14:00] <hafiz> IdleOne: yes, but doesnt it look weird. it suppose to be like that rite.
[14:00] <TwoD_> Mart||n: I normally have an ADSL modem connected to the router on eth0, but my ISP has messed it up so I can't get an IP. I'm temporarily using my laptop as a router since it has a 3G modem. The rest of the computers are still on eth0 as they don't need net access.  I could also use eth0 and eth1 instead of wlan0 on my regular comp of course, but I figured it shouldn't make much of a...
[14:00] <TwoD_> ...difference and I like being able to move my laptop.
[14:00] <abdo> Slart: I did
[14:00] <hafiz> IdleOne: yes, but doesnt it look weird. it not suppose to be like that rite.
[14:00] <stefg> Euroman__: ok, so run sudo chown [username] /media/bigdisk && sudo chmod 775 /media/bigdisk
[14:00] <IdleOne> hafiz, looks like you need to change your locales or install a language pack. I am not sure
[14:01] <IdleOne> !locales | hafiz
[14:01] <Mart||n> oh right access teh manual for router to change ur mac adress for the wireless
[14:01] <Euroman__> stefg you are the man i owe you let me do this
[14:01] <Mart||n> in the main setup router page
[14:01] <hafiz> IdleOne: i have this one after i connected to the chatroom http://imagebin.org/59710
[14:02] <TwoD_> Mart||n: why would I need to change the MAC?
[14:02] <isaac_> grawity how do you copy the whole thing as bootable?  I keep getting files, but no boot.  I'll rtfm if I can find a manual to read.
[14:03] <Meccano> Slart box wasn't checked but no change after checking....
[14:03] <IdleOne> !TOR-GPG > hafiz
[14:03] <IdleOne> !proxy > hafiz
[14:03] <IdleOne> hafiz,  read the messages from ubottu they should help you
[14:04] <Mart||n> cso u said it worked now it dont
[14:04] <Mart||n> and  if it  dsl related with etho net
[14:04] <Slart> Meccano: did you logout and login again with the user?
[14:04] <Mart||n> then u need to  probably  tell route to give u  new  pc mac code to it
[14:04] <abdo> Slart: when i install ubuntu i remove every thing in sound and video category but pidgin
[14:04] <Mart||n> like most ppl do in england on   cable
[14:05] <abdo> Slart: do you think that broke some issues about pidgin
[14:05] <Mart||n> #or turn router off for 6 mins
[14:05] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, you still here?
[14:05] <Slart> abdo: hmm.. I don't really think so..either pidgin would start and then work completely.. or not start at all..
[14:05] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Yes
[14:06] <Mart||n> maybe but what if u use 8mb  x 8
[14:06] <Meccano> Ooops no doing it right now disconnect and reconnect to the room then....brb
[14:06] <Mart||n> it does work tho
[14:06] <stefg> Euroman__: got to leave... should work now
[14:06] <TwoD_> Mart||n: I't my ADSL modem which doesn't get an IP, I tested without the router as well. I was away for two weeks and when I got back and turned everything on, the modem setup pages just said "connected" but no ip.
[14:06] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, how do i enable facebook chat or what is the protocol for it?
[14:06] <Mart||n> or use docs  suggest it does with they  topic they do
[14:06] <Mart||n> then u will never get a net connect til thats fix
[14:06] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: The only way I can think of, is to install the Pidgin Facebook plugin.
[14:06] <abdo> Slart: alsos i though about MSN certificate
[14:07] <Mart||n> u mac addy of wlsan
[14:07] <GPL> i installed LAMP successfully , and extracted phpMyAdmin into my /var/www folder, but visiting http://localhost/phpMyAdmin gives me 404 error
[14:07] <Slart> abdo: it uses certificates?
[14:07] <abdo> Slart: how can totally remove pidin and re install it
[14:07] <Euroman__> stefg thanks very much
[14:07] <Mart||n> i cant find lamp for unbuntu in pakackages
[14:07] <Euroman__> i apreciate
[14:08] <GPL> any ideas ? :)
[14:08] <Slart> abdo: sudo apt-get purge pidgin; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[14:08] <grawity> Slart: MSN uses HTTP+SSL (HTTPS) for auth, so yes, it uses certificates.
[14:08] <Euroman__> stefg anyway i can get in touch with you other time
[14:08] <Meccano> Back.
[14:08] <IdleOne> !lamp > Mart||n
[14:08] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, what is it caleld because i just did a search on hardy and prism-facebook is all that came up which i am sure it isn't for pidgin
[14:08] <Hodapp> 'firefox' runs fine from the terminal but an icon set to execute 'firefox' (or /usr/bin/firefox) does nothing... anyone know what's going on?
[14:08] <Meccano> No change slart
[14:08] <Slart> grawity: ahh.. didn't know that.. I suppose pidgin handles that by itself... at least I've never had to mess with it
[14:08] <grawity> Slart: It usually does
[14:09] <Mart||n> lol so thats what it uses
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[14:09] <grawity> Denied.
[14:09] <Mart||n> staic  words in sentence fo begging
[14:09] <TwoD_> Mart||n: The wlan works fine, it's a peer to peer network between my laptop and my regular comp where the laptop share's its internet connection. I just want to know how to tell Ubuntu to use that interface when I try to access an external ip, instead of eth0.
[14:09] <Meccano> Checked the groups. No audio group.... should I create it and add users ? Thing that puzzles me is that I don't have sound on login screen but sound in one account when everything was OK......
[14:09] <Mart||n> ok thats ur prob
[14:09] <Slart> Meccano: it might be called "pulse" or "pulse-access"
[14:09] <Mart||n> hennot doing what u  said in firstce u
[14:09] <Mart||n> plaang icsce if u was usi
[14:09] <Mart||n> u shoudl of said
[14:09] <Mart||n> but alas
[14:09] <grawity> Mart||n: What is _your_ problem?
[14:09] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <bazhang> Mart||n, stop with the enter
[14:09] <Mart||n> just  ifconfig eth0 or wlan0 down
[14:09] <Meccano> Right I saw a pulse group....checking
[14:10] <Slart> Mart||n: please.. english.. and enter.. and common sense
[14:10] <Mart||n> and then  ifconfig eth0 ipaddy...not the wlan0 one
[14:10] <GPL> bazhang : how about the webcam issue, and can ya help with my phpMyAdmin problem :(
[14:10] <Mart||n> up..th up.similiar to the down command jsut wi t put ijsut
[14:10] <Meccano> slart ; all users in the group but none checked....
[14:11] <pheonix> how do i change the user of a file
[14:11] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, what is it called because i just did a search on hardy and prism-facebook is all that came up which i am sure it isn't for pidgin
[14:11] <Mart||n> i can do webcam
[14:11] <pheonix> please help me
[14:11] <TwoD_> Mart||n: are you drunk? that makes little sense
[14:11] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Hardy? :o
[14:11] <Mart||n> jsut dmesg | grep usbvideo
[14:11] <GPL> !chmod > pheonix
[14:11] <Slart> Meccano: only the users that have the checkbox checked are in the group
[14:11] <Mart||n> and if it oupts then u have usbvid
[14:11] <Mart||n> wether internal or extern
[14:12] <Slart> Meccano: but I don't think that's it.. my user isn't in the pulse group either.. and I have sound working alright
[14:12] <Meccano> K. Should I add user in group considering other user not in group has sound ?
[14:12] <Slart> Meccano: what happens if you try playing a sound in a terminal.. say with "aplay /dev/urandom".. do you get an error message?
[14:12] <Segaja> hi, how can i see weither my ubuntu has recognized my TWAIN scanner in the correct manner?
[14:13] <grafted3> try scanning something
[14:13] <Meccano> slart: no error. says playing but not sound....
[14:13] <Hodapp> Segaja: sane-find-scanner is one place to start.
[14:13] <Slart> Segaja: try running xsane.. I think it lists the connected scanners in some way
[14:13] <Hodapp> or xsane.
[14:13] <Slart> Meccano: are you using pulse audio?
[14:14] <Meccano> slart: in sound I use automatic and alsa....
[14:14] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: In Jaunty, it's pidgin-facebookchat.
[14:14] <Segaja> xsane sais no device found. so does sane-find-scanner
[14:14] <Meccano> I mean auto-detect....
[14:14] <Meccano> (system is in French.... :)
[14:14] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: It's in the 'universe' repos however.
[14:14] <Slart> Meccano: try running this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol padevchooser paman" then run the pulse audio volume control from the Applications, Sound & Video menu
[14:14] <Segaja> the modules parport_pc and parport are loaded
[14:15] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, errrh for those using hardy how can i get it?
[14:15] <Segaja> Slart and Hodapp: both find nothing
[14:15] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Do you have the 'universe' repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list? It might be there.
[14:16] <jrgp> do nvidia proprietary drivers work with Karmic Alpha 4?
[14:16] <Slart> Segaja: then I think it's safe to assume your scanner isn't detected
[14:16] <Slart> !karmic | jrgp
[14:16] <Segaja> Slart: any idea why?
[14:16] <Segaja> according to mustek.com sane should be able to support it
[14:16] <Slart> Segaja: nope.. I don't think I've ever had a scanner connected to my ubuntu box
[14:16] <jrgp> Slart: I'm aware of the risks, just wondering about the nvidia functionality
[14:16] <Segaja> the sane homepage aggrees
[14:16] <Slart> jrgp: read the last part of the message... "support on #ubuntu+1"
[14:16] <Meccano> slart: sound's back Hurray !!!!!
[14:16] <jrgp> ah
[14:17] <Slart> *in
[14:17] <Slart> jrgp: =)
[14:17] <piotrek> hello, sorry for my english. I have problem with svn: "Connection closed unexpectedly". Have anybody this problem?
[14:17] <Slart> Meccano: ahh.. that fixed it? sweet
[14:17] <Meccano> sound was muted in playback....
[14:17] <Slart> Meccano: tricky =)
[14:17] <Segaja> so, does anyone else has any idea why my system does not recognise the scanner?
[14:17] <Meccano> Yep couldn't find it. far from a rocket scientist I guess.....
[14:17] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, i have but it aint just went to ubuntu package and it starts from intrepid onwards nothing for hardy, i aint to sure about using intrepid repository on hardy, im sure it might break something
[14:18] <bazhang> Segaja, make and model?
[14:18] <Meccano> Anyway thx a million !!!
[14:18] <Segaja> bazhang: mustek MFS-6000SP
[14:18] <Segaja> it is old, i know :)
[14:18] <Meccano> restart PC for final check
[14:18] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: You could just download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:18] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Or you could upgrade to Jaunty.
[14:18] <Slart> Meccano: you're welcome
[14:18] <Meccano> In case I don't come back, have a great day and take care
[14:19] <Meccano> Bye all. Great room. Hope I don't have to come back ;)
[14:19] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, will just try to get the intrepid version and install it not too sure if it is wise dont want to upgrade quite happy with hard maybe when the next lst comes out
[14:20] <thinkertinker> hi i got a problem with my mouse.I switched the mousebuttons(right button as primary)but every time i restart jaunty the mouse falls back to default setting(left button as primary)
[14:20] <MeanGene> Canucklehead
[14:20] <bobg> hello, I need to update a LH-20A1P dvd writer -- there exists only a windows exe installer -- I have tried wine (seg fault) and a vbox win VM (no pci pass through).  How else can I update this drive?
[14:21] <MeanGene> Why when I start Firefox either from the Panel or from the list, two copies always open?
[14:21] <Segaja> bazhang: so, andy ideas?
[14:21] <bazhang>  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/sane-mustek.5.html
[14:21] <jrib> thinkertinker: how did you switch it?
[14:21] <bazhang> Segaja, should work no problems
[14:22] <Segaja> bazhang: that is what mustek.com and sane-project.org say :)
[14:22] <StrangeCharm> is the main repo package 'sbnc' shroudBNC, or is it another program?
[14:22] <Segaja> but it does not
[14:22] <Hodapp> MeanGene: I get zero copies open when I use the Panel. Could I have one of yours?
[14:22] <jrib> !info sbnc | StrangeCharm
[14:22] <bazhang> Segaja, you installed all the libsane packages?
[14:22] <grawity> StrangeCharm: apt-cache show sbnc
[14:22] <bobg> MeanGene: check your home page -- there is a syntax to open multiple tabs/windows
[14:22] <Segaja> bazhang: oehm... sane was installed so i guessed they are all installed. but i will check
[14:23] <bazhang> Segaja, should be at least three
[14:23] <Segaja> libsane-extra and so on?
[14:23] <MeanGene> Thanks I will look for that
[14:23] <StrangeCharm> well, there we go, who'd have thought, jrib, grawity
[14:24] <Hodapp> bobg: Any idea why my attempt to run Firefox from the panel results in no copies opening, but it runs fine from a terminal?
[14:24] <Segaja> bazhang: the following are allready installed: libsane, xsane, xsane-common, sane-utils, sane
[14:24] <Segaja> i will now install libsane-extras
[14:25] <bobg> Hodapp: right-click on the panel icon and choose "properties" -- see what command its executing
[14:25] <Hodapp> bobg: The same command as when I run from terminal.
[14:25] <muxfr> Anybody here got audio working in an hp dv6 labtop?
[14:25] <Hodapp> bobg: And I get the same effect if I do /usr/bin/firefox instead.
[14:26] <Segaja> bazhang: still nothing
[14:26] <bazhang> Segaja, using what app to scan
[14:26] <Segaja> bazhang: at the moment i'm trying sane-find-scanner, xsane and quiteinsane
[14:26] <Segaja> but all say the same: no device found
[14:27] <jiohdi> I installed java runtime per instructions found on java page for linux... but firefox did not recognized it... what did I do wrong?
[14:27] <grawity> jiohdi: If you installed the Sun Java runtime, you need sun-java6-plugin too.
[14:27] <bobg> Hodapp: wierd -- try entering another command like "gedit" to see what happens
[14:28] <Hodapp> bobg: That works...
[14:28] <jiohdi> grawity... shouldnt the web page have mentioned that?
[14:28] <bobg> Hodapp: also, is type set to "Application" (in the properties dialog)
[14:28] <Hodapp> bobg: Yeah.
[14:28] <grawity> jiohdi: I don't know. The runtime itself is for standalone applications -- it is not limited to webpages.
[14:28] <bobg> my command (hardy) in the FF launcher is "firefox %u"
[14:29] <bobg> Hodapp:
[14:29] <jiohdi> grawity, I have two firefoxes installed, one that came with ubuntu and one that I got from mozilla as the latest version
[14:29] <Hodapp> bobg: Mine is too but the %u seems to make no difference.
[14:29] <mrapplecomputer1> ugh, whenever i run any apt-get command, i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580 ideas
[14:29] <jiohdi> when I went back to the old one, the java install option existed but on the new one, it said manually only
[14:30] <jiohdi> once I installed the old one, both worked
[14:30] <muxfr> nobody uses HP dv6?
[14:30] <bobg> Hodapp: maybe try creating a new launcher from scratch?  I am outta ideas
[14:30] <jiohdi> but I am still curious as to why the install I did per their instructions failed
[14:30] <Hodapp> hmm
[14:30] <rek> created a shared folder in ubuntu...how can i browse it from windows?
[14:31] <bobg> Hodapp: oh, check the /var/log/syslog to see if there is an error when you try to launch FF
[14:31] <thinkertinker_> 1 more prob:how to flush my dns cache in ubuntu jaunty??
[14:32] <mrapplecomputer1> macuser_: whenever i run any apt-get command, i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580 ideas??
[14:32] <Hodapp> bobg: nothing there.
[14:32] <bobg> what to do when you need to update a hardware's firmware and there is only a windows exe?
[14:32] <Segaja> bazhang: what would you use for scanning?
[14:32] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, what do you use apt-get with?
[14:32] <pheonix> hi i have started a new hub server using opendchub, but the users are getting very slow speed, in KB's !!
[14:32] <pheonix> please help me
[14:32] <mrapplecomputer1> remove, autoclean, etc
[14:32] <grawity> bobg: I dual-boot Windows :) Sometimes, if the .exe just extracts things to a floppy, I use another computer.
[14:32] <Segaja> bobg: i would use virtualBox or my windows :)
[14:33] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: and purge
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: That wouldn't work if the updater requires access to the hardware mentioned.
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: As is the case with CD drives, for example.
[14:33] <Segaja> grawity: true, thatn the virtualBox would not work
[14:33] <Hodapp> It would work only in isolated cases...
[14:33] <bobg> Segaja: I tried vbox but it does not recognize the drive b/c vbox provides a virtual drive
[14:33] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, thats a weird problem i don't know how to fix
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: Then nothing but Windows would work, I guess.
[14:33] <Hodapp> bobg: Nothing of interest there.
[14:34] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: i know! its really stumped me, and im not new to ubuntu/*nix
[14:34] <jiohdi> bobg, wine?
[14:34] <bobg> jiohdi: in wine, It runs, but then I get a segfault
[14:34] <mrapplecomputer1> ANY apt-get command i run i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580
[14:34] <soreau> bobg: If alls the manufacturer offers is an exe method, you will  have to run it from a true windoze environment
[14:35] <Segaja> grawity: i agree. the good think i still have xp in a corner of my drive :)
[14:35] <soreau> bobg: I dont think theres a windoze live cd but I could be wrong
[14:35] <bobg> grawity: soreau, would a xen VM work if I configure a pci pass through for teh drive?
[14:35] <Hodapp> soreau: Probably not legally, but meh
[14:35] <grawity> soreau: BartPE is, kind of.
[14:35] <tzd> hi everyone! Can someone please help me with my surround sound that doesn't work? I'm using alsa v. 1.0.20, nothing is muted in Alsamixer. I've connected my Asus P5N-D motherboard with integrated Nvidia HD 883 sound to my receiver via SPDIF optical cable. I get sound within Mplayer in all my speakers but when i run the "speaker-test" it's all muted. Please help me!
[14:35] <grawity> bobg: What exactly are you updating?
[14:36] <grawity> bobg: If Windows gets pure unrestricted access to that particular device - then yes, it probably would work.
[14:36] <soreau> bobg: For updating firmware, thats probably not a good idea
[14:36] <bobg> grawity: a LH-20A1P Liteon dvd writer
[14:36] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, something about , bad allocation
[14:36] <GPL> Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope uses which Linux Kernel [ is it 2.6.11 + ] or [ 2.6.11 - ] , i need t o know that, in order to install a set of drivers for my webcame ???
[14:36] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: yea, what does that mean though......
[14:36] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo Segaja I've not currently got a scanner, this link may have some info however
[14:37] <bobg> GPL: jaunty uses 2.6.28
[14:37] <IdleOne> GPL, uname -a
[14:37] <bazhang> 2.6.28.14.19 GPL
[14:37] <GPL> bobg : IdleOne : thanks
[14:37] <GPL> bazhang: thanks, hows the search going ?
[14:37] <Lion-O> can i get help here?
[14:37] <tr3ei> hi :). Can someone tell me how to use "memmap" to specify multiple intervals of my RAM? (for example... i want to "ban" 30 MB... from 600 to 630 and 20M from 800 to 820)
[14:37] <tr3ei> Simple usage... only one interval "banned" : memmap=30M$600M ... written in the menu.lst file
[14:38] <bazhang> GPL, sorry could you give me the cam name again?
[14:38] <Segaja> bazhang: okay thanks. i'll work my way through this doc
[14:38]  * mrapplecomputer1 doesnt think anyone is going to help him :P :P
[14:38] <ikonia> mrapplecomputer1: someone will help when they can, adding me noise to the channel with /me commands won't help
[14:38] <jiohdi> IdleOne: is there a thingy like that to tell when I installed ubuntu?
[14:38] <mrapplecomputer1> ikonia: sorry
[14:38] <Segaja> bazhang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek << this list has not the MFS-6000SP so ubuntu does not support it?
[14:39] <bobg> Lion-O: sorry, help is only for those who don;t ask if they can get help:)  -- just ask the question
[14:39] <grawity> mrapplecomputer1: If nobody answers, nobody knows. You could try #debian and/or ##linux
[14:39] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, finch works well the facebook plugin keeps giving segmentation faults but than it isnt intended for hardy still thanks
[14:39] <GPL> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000.  Bus 002 Device 003: ID 5543:0004 UC-Logic Technology Corp. Genius MousePen 5x4 Tablet | this is the result of "lsusb" command :) i am struggling to setup this.
[14:39] <Bluey_> !paste blue_
[14:39] <bazhang> Segaja, that list is likely out of date, nothing on ubuntuforums show anything wrong, just some eastern european mailing lists
[14:39] <mrapplecomputer1> ok thanks grawity
[14:39] <Bluey_> !paste bluey_
[14:39] <GPL> bazhang: ^^ there.
[14:40] <Lion-O> hi im getting the messege: "this kernel requires an x86-64 cpu,but only detects an i686 cpu......" while trying to install or use ubuntu on a lapto,can anyone help me?
[14:40] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, the 1.60 version of that plugin seems to be working well for me. I just installed it ten minutes ago
[14:40] <ikonia> Lion-O: you're using a 64bit os on a 32bit machine
[14:40] <ikonia> Lion-O: download the 32bit os
[14:40] <bazhang> Lion-O, wrong type of cd
[14:40] <Segaja> bazhang: agreed. the SANE homepage is listing the scanner as fully supported
[14:40] <mrapplecomputer1> Lion-O: i believe you need x32
[14:40] <Lion-O> where do i get it?
[14:41] <tr3ei> hi :). Can someone tell me how to use "memmap" to specify multiple intervals of my RAM? (for example... i want to "ban" 30 MB... from 600 to 630 and 20M from 800 to 820)
[14:41]  * bobg is leaving to go dig up an old windows CD
[14:41] <mrapplecomputer1> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[14:41] <jrib> Lion-O: download the i386 version from ubuntu.com
[14:41] <legend2440> !paste | Bluey_
[14:41] <Lion-O> thanks!
[14:41] <RV2D> HI ! /var/lib/dpkg/available broken ! how can I fix it ?
[14:41] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, A bad_alloc() an exception thrown by C++ when it runs out of heap memory.
[14:41] <mrapplecomputer1> Lion-O: yep
[14:42] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: sooo what should i do? power cycle it or something?
[14:42] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, i don't know what to say, i was just searching on google and didn't find much
[14:43] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: i know, i always check google first ;)
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, i am using 8.04 :(
[14:44] <IdleOne> 9.04 here Pirate_Hunter
[14:45] <MeanGene> bobg Thanks a lot.
[14:45] <cyberfin> Running Ubuntu 9.04 64-amd; Could someone please tell me why I can open apps from the menu using alt-f1 and selecting an app with 'enter', but can't open apps with a mouse click? Very weird...
[14:46] <bazhang> GPL, there are a number of posts on ubuntuforums to get it working, some compiling necessary though search terms : LifeCam VX-1000 ubuntu
[14:46] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, no wonder there is probably a way for me to get it working will check when i am bothered
[14:46] <monostone> hi, i'm in the middle of learning how to properly burn cds and dvds via the cl, but i just read that wodim is buggy and being left aside in favor of cdrecord, is this true? i have always used genisoimage/wodim combo should I switch to mkisofs/cdrecord?
[14:46] <RV2D> HI ! /var/lib/dpkg/available broken ! how can I fix it ?
[14:46] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, there is a package in the repos also
[14:47] <GPL> bazhang : i tried some of them :) , most of them didnt work, trying others.
[14:48] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, no there isn't at least not for pidgin/finch it does say facebook but i dont know what it works with?
[14:48] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, again I should of specified in 9.04 pidgin-facebookchat
[14:48] <cyberfin> Another symptom is that from the places menu I can only get stuff to open if I right-click it. If I left-click, nothing...
[14:49] <Bluey_> bazhang, hi, i tried the things in the wireless manual configuration thing you suggested.....but i still said that not DHCPOFFER received.  in this screen shot u can see that the "enable wireless" button is greyed out in nm-manager. can you please help me with that? http://imagebin.org/59715
[14:50] <cyberfin> Running Ubuntu 9.04 64-amd; Could someone please tell me why I can open apps from the menu using alt-f1 and selecting an app with 'enter', but can't open apps with a mouse click? Very weird... plaz help
[14:50] <bazhang> Bluey_, how did you associate the AP ? what command did you give
[14:50] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, lol conversation going in circle i know i understood :p
[14:50] <Bluey_> bazhang,  what is AP?
[14:51] <bazhang> Bluey_, the access point (wifi hotspot)
[14:51] <cyberfin> could anyone at least point me in the right direction?
[14:52] <Bluey_> bazhang,
[14:52] <Bluey_> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "ADAGIO_by_Meteror"
[14:52] <bruce927> How do I change my network workgroup in ubuntu?
[14:52] <bazhang> Bluey_, then iwconfig shows it associated?
[14:53] <bazhang> cyberfin, bluetooth mouse? compiz enabled? please more details
[14:53] <grawity> bruce927: The Samba workgroup can be changed in system-config-samba tool.
[14:53] <cyberfin> compiz enabled yes, not bt mouse
[14:53] <Bluey_> bazhang, wiconfig says not associated
[14:54] <Bluey_> bazhang, is ESSID and SSID the same thing? it says ESSID="ADAGIO_BY_METEOR" mode :managed but the AP is Not Associated
[14:55] <cyberfin> just changed window manager to metacity... no change
[14:55] <bazhang> Bluey_, have you tried to sudo dhclient wlan0 since that time? (of the sudo iwconfig command)
[14:56] <bruce927> cheers grawity
[14:56] <Lion-O> im downloading :)
[14:56] <bazhang> Bluey_, sometimes takes a couple of tries with odd hotspots
[14:57] <Bluey_> bazhang, yes i ran all these commands........http://paste.ubuntu.com/253667/ in sequence
[14:57] <Lion-O> 1283 users her :O
[14:57] <Lion-O> here
[14:57] <Lion-O> :O
[14:57] <IdleOne> Lion-O, yes it is slow today
[14:57] <Lion-O> haha :)
[14:58] <_mnemonic76> I am trying to understand the details of what happens when I plug a usb drive in in Ubuntu... the details of what makes it appear automatically for me to mount.
[14:59] <_mnemonic76> I have a minimal ubuntu install on an old laptop using fluxbox instead of gnome... and I don't know what I need to add to make it function MORE like the gnome (basically the automounting)
[15:00] <bazhang> Bluey_, could you pastebin you actually running those commands from the first part of the link I gave you (re unencrypted networks)
[15:00] <grawity> _mnemonic76: Start with udev, I think. (And hal, though it's getting slowly removed.) In GNOME, the mounting itself is handled by Nautilus and gnome-volume-manager, but I think it is possible to make udev do it.
[15:00] <_mnemonic76> grawity: thanks for the tip
[15:02] <Bluey_> bazhang, this is the syslog around the time i started having the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/253668/ i will send u the output for the commands next .
[15:04] <Segaja> is there some simple way to find out weither my kernel supports SCSI?
[15:05] <Bluey_> bazhang,  here is the actual running of the  commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/253671/
[15:07] <detrix> Hello folks.  I just installed firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko)  How do I get the Prefered Applications to recognize it?  I mean when I am in thunderbird and click on a like it would launch firefox.  I tried a custom entry to Shiretoko but thats not working.  What else do I need to do?
[15:08] <carlos> #ubuntu-es
[15:08] <Segaja> nobody?
[15:09] <cute_bettong> hi im trying to setup my computer and laptop to use the ubuntu remote desktop connection software, is there anything specal i need to do to make this work? no matter what i try i cannot access my laptop from my desktop even on the same network, is there anything specific i need to setup before i can utilise this service?
[15:10] <Bluey_> bazhang, any idea whats wrong ?
[15:10] <legend2440> detrix: system>prferences>preferred apps
[15:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879134&page=7 Bluey_ there is a thread here but it is a bit old, I will continue to look however
[15:11] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the file extension for pidgin plugins?
[15:11] <slayton> Does anybody know of a program that can be used to parse a simple online calendar?
[15:11] <Bluey_> bazhang,  wooo hooooo
[15:11] <detrix> legend2440: I did that, but I had to use the custom option because "Shiretoko" does not show up in the popup list.
[15:12] <Bluey_> bazhang,  i restarted and its working like magic.. thank you thank you so much . i love  u in a totally non-gay way. you Sir are my god
[15:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7415234&postcount=3 Bluey_ this is wpa2 but the modprobe commands may pertain to your issue
[15:12] <bazhang> Bluey_, it works now?
[15:12] <bazhang> Bluey_, that is great. nicely done
[15:12] <legend2440> detrix: yes you have to put it in custom.  this worked for me    firefox-3.5 %s
[15:12] <Bluey_> bazhang, yup... i just needed to restart the stupid laptop......... but as i said u are god
[15:13] <detrix> cute_bettong: on the laptop go to System -> Administration -> login window
[15:13] <detrix> legend2440: ahhh I typed "Shiretoko"   got it thanx
[15:13] <moldy> hi
[15:14] <moldy> is there some standard format for referencing bugs on launchpad in debian/changelog files?
[15:16] <Bluey_> bazhang,  one last thing can u tell me where i can learn more about this? will i find these in the man page or some good ref book?
[15:16] <detrix> cute_bettong: click on the remote tab
[15:16] <detrix> cute_bettong: click on the remote login disabled and enable it
[15:17] <bazhang> Bluey_, that link I gave you is a pretty good primer, there is a general ubuntu guide book for more than wireless here --> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ free pdf
[15:18] <Bluey_> bazhang, thanks you
[15:18] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Bluey_ that link in case you missed it (or forgot to bookmark)
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> hello
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> to all
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> i am noob
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> gg
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> lol
[15:19] <FloodBot3> Xauhaxk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <Bluey_> bazhang, lol.. no i bookmarked it on my comp, delicioused it and mailed it to my mail id :P thank you so much
[15:21] <stuffe> Hey. I've been encountering a problem with the game Planeshift(http://www.planeshift.it/). When I start the game and expect to see my character, NPC's and such. But it's an empty non-refreshed window, with only the UI working. I spoke with some dudes about it and they told me that I need some extra video packages. They were using an other distro and the packages weren't of the same name. intel-dri, mesa, dri2proto, xf86-video-intel, these wer
[15:21] <stuffe> e the files that I was told to update, but ubuntu seems to have another name for them. Please help me find the packages needed to fix this problem.
[15:21] <FloodBot3> stuffe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <mohanohi> hi.. ubuntu was working fine.. now login screen not appearing.. just showing busy cursor...
[15:23] <mohanohi> i am able to login via terminal..
[15:23] <mohanohi> by pressing ctrl+alt+f2..
[15:23] <mohanohi> system is not hung..
[15:23] <mohanohi> but login screen is not showing up. i am using ubuntu 8.10 64 bit..
[15:23] <GPL> !paste > mohanohi
[15:24] <Kapli> Hi, I'm trying to compile kTorrent in ubuntu, and when compiling it says that I'm missing an optional package called, libtaskmanager, anyone know where to get it? Couldn't find it in the package manager
[15:24] <routinepursuit> So i just installed firefox 3.5 and removed 3.0 using apt-get  no I got nothing... ideas?  Thanks
[15:24] <bazhang> Kapli, any reason not to use the version from repos?
[15:24] <Boohbah> Kapli: why are you trying to compile ktorrent?
[15:24] <mohanohi> GPL: I am not trying to flood.. just want to convey my problem..
[15:24] <bazhang> routinepursuit, installed 3.5 how
[15:24] <Kapli> i want the newest version :P
[15:24] <riz0n> Hello guys!
[15:24] <riz0n> I have a problem :(
[15:24] <mohanohi> pls .. anybody help me out...
[15:25] <routinepursuit> bazhag:  apt-get install
[15:25] <riz0n> I have a Dell laptop that has a Dell BCM4306 wireless chipset.
[15:25] <oldude67> mohanohi, try not hitting the enter key as much
[15:25] <riz0n> Trying to get this thing to work on 9.04!! Oh no!!!
[15:25] <bazhang> routinepursuit, 3.0 should have reinstalled with installation of 3.5
[15:25] <mohanohi> oldude67: no... i am not doing it..
[15:25] <moldy> how do i see which repository a package is from?
[15:25] <Boohbah> Kapli: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev
[15:25] <bazhang> moldy, which package?
[15:26] <riz0n> I followed     * WifiDocsDriverbcm43xxFeisty_No-Fluff to a T and i am not getting anything
[15:26] <mohanohi> oldude67: what to do? how to debug the problem.. pls help :(
[15:26] <oldude67> mohanohi, what was you doing before this happened?
[15:26] <poc> Is anybody know how to develop wap on unbuntu?
[15:26] <moldy> bazhang: thin-client-manager-backend
[15:26] <mohanohi> i was previously working with blender..
[15:26] <Kapli> ah, yes, thanks :D just bumped into it on google too ^^
[15:26] <mohanohi> just safe shutdown... and restarts..
[15:27] <routinepursuit> so I got firefox 3.0 back using apt-get... how do I run 3.5?
[15:27] <oldude67> mohanohi, boot into recovery mode and try the dpkg to see if there is any broken packages you have missed.
[15:27] <bazhang> moldy, in future you can /msg ubottu  info thin-client-manager-backend  (its in component main)
[15:27] <legend2440> routinepursuit: firefox-3.5
[15:28] <mohanohi> oldude67: oh.. ok .. will try now..
[15:28] <bazhang> routinepursuit, it shows as shiretoko in apps menu
[15:28] <moldy> bazhang: ok, thanks -- but is there a more general way to get this information? from an ubuntu system?
[15:28] <testi> I can't find the task manager in ubuntu, where is it?
[15:28] <GPL> testi : ps command is what i use to see current processes.
[15:28] <moldy> bazhang: something like apt-cache <foo> <packagename>?
[15:29] <bazhang> moldy, apt-cache show packagename
[15:29] <routinepursuit> bazhang: so uh thanks, nice...
[15:29] <testi> GPL: I mean a graphical one, where i can i search for processes and then decide what to do with them
[15:29] <GPL> testi : ;) graphical one ,It's system monitor, in System  > Administration >
[15:30] <legend2440> moldy: open synaptic>settings>preferences>columns and fonts check box that says Component it will list which repo each package is in
[15:30] <moldy> bazhang: and then? get it from the "Filename:" entry?
[15:30] <testi> GPL, thanks
[15:30] <mohanohi> oldude67: do you know which file holds the repository server information? i want to remove some of the jaunty repository in it..
[15:30] <caocheng> what are the different between follow command :1)ls -l 2>&1 |  wc 2):exec 3>&1;ls -l 2>&1  >&3 3>&- | wc
[15:30] <GPL> testi : np.
[15:30] <riz0n> Does anyone know how to get the Dell BCM4306 (Rev 3) working with Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:30] <moldy> legend2440: thank you -- is there also a cli way? i am usually working over ssh
[15:30] <bazhang> moldy, in the terminal type apt-cache show vrms (as an example)
[15:30] <oldude67> mohanohi, souce.lst
[15:31] <moldy> bazhang: yes, but where in the output does it show the repository?
[15:31] <grawity> moldy: sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <oldude67> mohanohi, source.lst sorry
[15:31] <grawity> moldy: then sudo apt-get update, to refresh the DB.
[15:31] <bazhang> moldy, section
[15:31] <mohanohi> oldude67: oh.. ok.. thanx..
[15:31] <moldy> bazhang: that says "misc" for thin-client-manager-backend, which is not the information i am loooking for
[15:32] <routinepursuit> another dumb question, where is the icon for ff 3.5?
[15:32] <mohanohi> oldude67: how to edit that file in terminal.. what command?
[15:32] <moldy> grawity: thank you, but that's not what i am looking for :)
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> HI Mohan
[15:32] <grawity> mohanohi: 'nano' is the simplest editor.
[15:32] <bazhang> apt-cache policy then moldy
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> use nano or vi
[15:32] <routinepursuit> vim
[15:32] <mohanohi> grawity: thank you :)
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> nano is awesome
[15:32] <cretsiah> i have crunchbang8.10 (based on ubuntu8.10) and my fstab wont recognise my second drive any1 help?
[15:32] <bazhang> cretsiah, #crunchbang
[15:33] <GPL> routinepursuit: it must be there in quick launch or else, you can type "firefox" in terminal
[15:33] <moorthyvsm> fdisk -l and /etc/fstab
[15:33] <moldy> bazhang: ah, thank you, that does it
[15:33] <legend2440> routinepursuit: /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png
[15:33] <moorthyvsm> can you just show it?
[15:33] <bazhang> !derivatives | cretsiah
[15:33] <routinepursuit> thanks all!
[15:33] <q0s> how do i find out which kernel modules really gets loaded? there are 2 ath9k.ko's in my /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ directory ...
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: lsmod
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: lsmod | grep ath
[15:34] <q0s> mazda01_, and then? there is just the size ....
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: huh? lsmod shows you which module is loaded.
[15:36] <q0s> mazda01_, ok .. the output is: atk9k     310836 0 .... but which of my ath9k's is loaded?
[15:37] <kp> hi I receive the following warning message during system startup, how to fix it ata1:Softreset failed (device not ready),ata2:Softreset failed (device not ready)
[15:37] <caocheng> who knows the different between follow command :1)ls -l 2>&1 |  wc 2):exec 3>&1;ls -l 2>&1  >&3 3>&- | wc
[15:37] <oldude67> q0s, lspci
[15:38] <q0s> oldude67, does this tell me something about loaded modules?
[15:38] <mazda01_> q0s: well, are they both the same size when issuing a ls -l on them? i don't know how to tell which one is loaded to be honest. you could test it out by exiting out of the session, bootup in recovery mode, rename one of them, then try to log in normally. if the ath module gets loaded correctly then you know you renamed the one you can delete. if not, then rename the other one in recovery session and boot again. it's a tiny, file what the 
[15:41] <q0s> mazda01_, thanks. i installed a new ath9k with compiling and make install. i was just afraid about messing up with my paketmanager...
[15:42] <mazda01_> does anyone know where the commands are kept (what config file) in jwm for the panel and menu commands?
[15:42] <mazda01_> q0s: if it works, then i would just leave the tiny file alone. it's not like it's taking up tons of space you know. it's up to you if you want to try what i suggested
[15:43] <arie> hi
[15:43] <mazda01_> anyone know how to turn off joins, quits, and general messages for colloquy?
[15:44] <q0s> mazda01_, so ... whats if i go the karmic in a few month and the kernel module which was installed by hand prevents a better one from karmic to be used? ;)
[15:44] <arie> i'm using 8.04 on laptop. the built in speaker works fine, but not headphone jack. how to solve it?
[15:44] <saturnfossil> good night
[15:44] <FreshCure> hey people
[15:44] <saturnfossil> yes
[15:44] <fatbrain> mazda01_: isn't that the osx irc-client?
[15:44] <fatbrain> (i.e. why ask that in #ubuntu?)
[15:45] <FreshCure> what terminal command for moving multiple files to the same destination ?
[15:45] <mazda01_> q0s: why would it prevent a better one from being installed? it's going to upgrade it if theres an upgrade for it, just because you compiled it doesn't mean it's super man
[15:45] <mazda01_> fatbrain: yes, it is
[15:45] <RaceCondition> where should I report that the Ubuntu mirrors starting with ee. are problematic?
[15:45] <Factran> FreshCure: cp *.txt ./
[15:45] <mazda01_> fatbrain: because maybe someone might know that's why
[15:45] <Factran> for moving all txt file to current directory
[15:45] <FreshCure> sweet that simple eh ?
[15:45] <arie> i'm using 8.04 on laptop. the built in speaker works fine, but not headphone jack. how to solve it? T_T
[15:46] <Factran> or man cp for more info
[15:46] <mazda01_> arie: have you gone into gnome alsa mixer or alsa mixer to see if headphone jack is turned up all the way and it's not muted?
[15:46] <saturnfossil> move to current dir , you mean change name?
[15:47] <arie> yup
[15:48] <mazda01_> arie: not sure then, have you looked at any audio or pulseaudio guides?
[15:48] <unop> FreshCure, why would you want to do that? -- that wouldn't work by the way
[15:48] <FreshCure> move multiple files ?
[15:48] <FreshCure> its just for tremfusion
[15:49] <cute_bettong> ok to the guy who was nice enough to help me, im back, if you could please im me i would appriciate it thank you ^_^
[15:49] <unop> FreshCure, move files to the same destination? that's a bit like taking 10 coffee cups off the table only to put them back, pointless
[15:49] <q0s> mazda01_, there must be a logic how modules gets choosen ... my ath9k's are at 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/ath9k.so and the other one in 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/ath9k/ath9k.so. imaging always the first one gets loaded, and the other one is the one installed by my packagemanager, so never the packagemanger one would be choosen. if now my PM upgrades its one, it would never have a chance to be used
[15:50] <cute_bettong> i meant the guy that was helping me with the ubuntu remote desktop viewer
[15:51] <jrib> cute_bettong: detrix (try to remember the nick...)
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[15:51] <mazda01_> q0s: besides what I have already told you, i don't know what to tell you. are you sure one of them isn't a symlink to the other?
[15:51] <cute_bettong> jrib: thanks man
[15:52] <unop> saturnfossil, hmm, yea, sometimes pointing out a folly is just that :)
[15:53] <erUSUL> q0s: one is from linux-backport-modules and the other from the original kernl deb ??
[15:53] <erUSUL> q0s: the more recent will be the one loaded afaik
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[15:54] <erUSUL> q0s: 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/ath9k.so i  guess
[15:54] <q0s> erUSUL, one from linux-backports-modules the other one was installed via compat-wireless (make install)
[15:55] <q0s> mazda01_, anyway. thanks for your effords ;)
[15:55] <erUSUL> q0s: i see...
[15:57] <q0s> erUSUL, i know that the compat version is the drivers/net/wireless/ath9k/ath9k.so file ... just want to get sure this one gets loaded ;)
[15:57] <mazda01_> q0s: i tried. i'd be interested to know how the system knows which kernel modules to load also if you do find it out. i am goggling on it now and it's a lot of reading
[15:57] <fatbrain> mazda01_: I guessed that much, try #colloquy, might bet a better response there :)
[15:57] <mazda01_> fatbrain: thank you
[16:00] <mohanohi> hi..
[16:00] <mohanohi> whats the command of dpkg to repair broken packages..
[16:00] <NauTiluS1> sudo apt-get install -f
[16:01] <mohanohi> it does nothing...
[16:01] <mohanohi> i want dpkg command which executes on recovery menu..
[16:02] <arand> mohanohi:
[16:03] <arand> mohanohi: dpkg-reconfigure ?
[16:03] <Alvinware> fuck!
[16:03] <EagleScreen> dpkg --configure -a
[16:03] <mohanohi> arand: no.. it asks for package name..
[16:04] <harda> hi
[16:05] <DoLLin> andyy
[16:06] <DoLLin> jack
[16:08] <mohanohi> Eaglescreen: what was that command.. its like reconfiguring the whole system,,
[16:08] <maxb> I can see my CPU temperature in /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp, but the gnome sensors applet doesn't seem to know about that. Is there anything I can do to make it display there?
[16:08] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: please be more explicity
[16:09] <mohanohi> Eaglescreen: wow man.. this thing is new to me.. its asking keyboard model.. and other stuffs,,
[16:09] <IdleOne> mohanohi, what is it your doing exactly?
[16:10] <mohanohi> i needed to fix the broken package..
[16:10] <IdleOne> which package?
[16:10] <gartral> killing acpi at kernal load is done with noacpi=yes, right/
[16:10] <mohanohi> donno.. system was not showing login screen...
[16:10] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: keyboard model for X server is set by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[16:11] <mohanohi> so somebody here suggested to do dpkg from recovery..
[16:11] <mohanohi> but there network is not detected.. i mean my ethernet card..
[16:11] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what is your problem, why are you in recovery?
[16:12] <mohanohi> system not showing login screen..
[16:12] <IdleOne> ok let's do it this way. tell us what you did before the system went all screwy?
[16:12] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg'
[16:12] <mohanohi> pls just tell me what is command is exactly for dpkg - repair broken package
[16:13] <Jol> I've an Acer Aspire One Netbook and I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 Remix. It is working fine, but the UI is so slow. Anybody knows how to fix it?
[16:13] <mohanohi> my system is unable to locate the network in recovery mode..
[16:14] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: for a broken package you have two alternatives: 1) install its dependences 2) remove the package
[16:14] <bazhang> Jol, how much ram
[16:14] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: are you choosing netroot in recovery menu?
[16:14] <Jol> 2048
[16:14] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its not in here in this menu..
[16:15] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: you dont need internet
[16:15] <Jol> I've found this
[16:15] <Jol> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/349314/
[16:15] <Jol> but I do not know how to apply the patch
[16:15] <Jol> ;(
[16:15] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: but i dont know which package is broken..
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: upon choosing dpkg repair the system thing in recovery...
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it shows me to download a 250 mb of packages and some package to remove..
[16:16] <IdleOne> mohanohi, telling us what you tried to install last before your system stopped working the way you expect it to will help us to help you
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: if i press enter i dont have network detected..
[16:17] <mohanohi> idleOne: audacity, and some other 2 sound editing apps.. which name i am unable to remember.. :*
[16:17] <zouhair> hi, is there a way to have a list of installed packaged chronologically sorted (last installed first for ex.)?
[16:17] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: do you use wireless or ethernet?
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no..
[16:18] <IdleOne> no to which
[16:18] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: then do u use 3G?
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no..
[16:18] <arand> zouhair: you can always use some grep magic on /var/log/apt/term.log
[16:18] <legend2440> zouhair: i dont think so but if you open synaptic>file>history you can see installs by date
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: normal adsl modem connection..
[16:18] <zouhair> ok thanks
[16:19] <majnoon> is there any gui program to change xorg settings ??
[16:19] <jiohdi> is there a way to password protect individual folders?
[16:19] <arand> legend2440: zouhair: but that will only show installs done _through_ synaptic.
[16:19] <zouhair> hmm :(
[16:19] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: if you have an nvidia video kart you can use nvidia-settings
[16:20] <zouhair> arand: yes definitely, I amost never use synaptic, only aptitude
[16:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to the recovery mode now
[16:20] <arand> jiohdi: you could set the to only be readable by root, or another user with password protection?
[16:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok...
[16:21] <jiohdi> arand, how?
[16:21] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: drop to a root shell later
[16:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am in ....
[16:22] <zouhair> so I'll still stick to Bash history ;(
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now sir?
[16:22] <majnoon> intel 855GM series
[16:22] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: dpkg --configure -a
[16:22] <arand> jiohdi: use the chown, and chmod commands.
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no response..
[16:23] <jiohdi> arand, speak windows or stupid :)
[16:23] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: what you want to edit in xorg?
[16:23] <EagleScreen> ok run 'aptitude'
[16:23] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, from lspci|grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[16:23] <Guest42901> Does anyone know how to install Nepenthes on Ubuntu 9.04? I have installed it through apt-get and configured it, but it can't connect to my sockets as they are already being used
[16:23] <buttons840> Hi, any good tutorials on how permissions and such work in linux?   Specifically I'm looking to understand the output of ls -l.
[16:23] <majnoon> just mostly want to tweek and see if get improvements
[16:24] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. what to do now sir?
[16:24] <arand> zouhair: then something like sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log | grep "Setting up" will catch everything which passes apt.
[16:24] <NickDeNeger> it is not possible to alter xorg configurations while xorg has already started
[16:24] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'aptitude' -> Ctrl + T to drop menu and select Cancel pending operations
[16:24] <NickDeNeger> you always need to restart xorg
[16:25] <anr78> In newer kernel versions, should Ubuntu be able to mount my HFS+ with write support even if I have not disabled journaling in OS X?
[16:25] <majnoon> THAT not a problem :)
[16:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. what to do now sir?
[16:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. sorry about that..
[16:25] <monostone> buttons840, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'aptitude install' and tell me if it does something
[16:25] <buttons840> monostone, looks great thanks
[16:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: quit aptitude programm first
[16:26] <majnoon> they changed xorg.conf settings on me :)
[16:26] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. nothing just dropped me into command line..
[16:26] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: but as far as i know there isn't a tool to alter xorg.conf options by gui for a intel gpu
[16:26] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg'
[16:27] <majnoon> a "generic" one would do for me
[16:27] <bazhang> EagleScreen, its phigh not phight
[16:27] <Ivoz> Hi there, I'm wanting to resize my windows partition to install ubuntu manually, I don't get the Use As and mount options
[16:28] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: I found this link via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[16:28] <Ivoz> (during installation), can anyone help me what they are and basic process or point to a good page where they're explained
[16:28] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: but i dont have issues with my graphic driver? is it to repair my driver?
[16:28] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, where they put the settings now ??
[16:28] <NickDeNeger> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:29] <arand> jiohdi: On second though, I think that doing this the way I was thinking will complicate things quite a bit, and it will be rather complicated to browse the directory in question... I'm not sure what you are looking to do though?
[16:29] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: it set the default X server configuration
[16:29] <rohtie> hi, i have partition problems
[16:29] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i think my xserver doesn't have any problem.. its some package giving problem..
[16:30] <arand> rohtie: define problems ;)
[16:30] <majnoon> eg it says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"  <-- where are THOSE settings ??
[16:30]  * buttons840 reads about file permissions and has the immediate urge to change all permissions recursively...
[16:30] <rohtie> I can't resize my windows partition
[16:30] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run it, it is not dangerous
[16:30] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: how to remove problematic packages.. as it says in dpkg repair broken package..?
[16:30] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. as u say sir..
[16:31] <anr78> Is there an unofficial repository where I can get the latest beta drivers from nvidia?
[16:31] <EagleScreen> and how do you know the problem is a broken package? and how a broken pakage kill your X server?
[16:31] <aomakila> a
[16:31] <arand> rohtie: so you are using gparted, and that says what when you try to rezise?
[16:31] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: now it has taken a backup..
[16:32] <EagleScreen> yes, normally
[16:32] <ericG> Ivoz: this video may help, its for ubuntu 8.10 but it will apply to 9.04 as well http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1104
[16:32] <ircfine> why am i being prompted by update-manager? how can i stop update-manager?
[16:32] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now sir?
[16:32] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: tell us what have you seen to think you have broken packages?
[16:32] <legend2440> anr78: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
[16:33] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, eg it says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"  <-- where are THOSE settings ??
[16:33] <rohtie> arand: In ubuntu live cd, when the partition is unmounted the maximum and minum size is the same. When mounted, the resize/move function is disabled
[16:33] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: hmmm.. that dpkg - Repair broken packages shows me to download a 250 mb file and to remove some package..
[16:33] <ircfine> why am i being prompted by update-manager within a minute? how can i stop update-manager?
[16:33] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: I found this link via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: and yeah that are settings
[16:34] <anr78> legend2440: thanks, but I'm looking for a repo with them that will let me install using apt-get. used it earlier but don't remember where I found it :)
[16:34] <arand> anr78: I know http://philip.magicalforest.se/ has v.185 at least...
[16:34] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: if you has any broken package, 'aptitude install' would try to install them propertly, or to remove them if not possible, and it does nothing now, true?
[16:34] <Ivoz> ericG: im in ubuntu livecd atm, should I be able to view the video?
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: before editing any of the xorg.conf type: man xorg.conf
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> for help
[16:34] <majnoon> ok
[16:34] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. yeah.. sorry.. i am new to these type of things.. just guessing..
[16:34] <Oli``> I'm trying to force a window to be fullscreen (overrides toolbars, no window frame). I've tried targeting the window with CompizConfig but it never works. Is there something I can prepend to the launch command to make the window fullscreen?
[16:35] <anr78> arand: thanks
[16:35] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: try rebooting and pay atention to any possible error
[16:35] <arand> rohtie: um...is the partition full?
[16:35] <ericG> Ivoz: ah, probably not i think it is a flash video. do you not have the option in the ubuntu installer to automaticaly resize the windows partition and use free space?
[16:35] <rohtie> arand: nope
[16:35] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. should i reboot to normal or that recovery thing?
[16:35] <EagleScreen> try normal now mohanohi
[16:35] <rohtie> arand: when mounted you can see in the bar that it's not fulll
[16:36] <buttons840> if i setup this pipe    ls -lR | grep grwx*  why does the screen spam smybolic link errors, wouldn't grep stop these from showing?
[16:36] <Ivoz> ericG: yes, but there are other options, such as mount: and use as: which I don't understand... don't want to do something wrong to my vista partition
[16:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. sir.. :_
[16:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. sir.. :)
[16:36] <bullgard> Where can I find a definition for "provides" in dpkg?
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: just the same :(
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: showing busy cursor..
[16:37] <ericG> mount just tells the OS where to 'put' the contents of that partition, think of it kind of like loading a cd. you have your drive always present but it doesn't do anything until you put something in
[16:37] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what is exactly happening?
[16:37] <erUSUL> buttons840: grep process stdout not stderr
[16:37] <ericG> Ivoz: are you wanting to be able to access your windows partitions from ubuntu?
[16:37] <buttons840> i see
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i able to move my mouse.. black screen, busy cursor.. thats it..
[16:37] <arand> rohtie: and you still cant rezise it when unmounted?... Maybe you could try defragmenting it (I don't know, but maybe there are several "holes" that pads the partition out?)
[16:38] <rohtie> arand: how do i defrag it?
[16:38] <Ivoz> ericG: that would be nice if possible. I think the mount options where /dos and /windows if i remember from the installer
[16:38] <legend2440> anr78: here are some  nvidia 190  https://launchpad.net/~thefirstm/+archive/ppa
[16:38] <Ivoz> ericG: that video shows the guided way, i was looking to do it manually :)
[16:38] <ericG> ivoz yes that is correct. in the partitioner does it say your windows partition is NTFS? if so, you set 'use as' to NTFS and mount to /windows
[16:39] <arand> rohtie: from within windows, most simply.
[16:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what do do :(
[16:39] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: how are you in this state? did you stopped some update process?
[16:39] <rohtie> arand: I can't access windows, because theres something wrong with it
[16:39] <Ivoz> rohtie, defraggler is a good defragger i used for windows, it lets you consolidate free space as well
[16:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah.. it was installing audacity.. and i cancelled it..
[16:40] <anr78> legend2440: that was the one I had earlier. thanks!
[16:40] <arand> rohtie: If you look at the information for the partion in gparted, are there any warning or such?
[16:40] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i mean i was installing audacity,...
[16:40] <rohtie> only when its unmounted
[16:40] <Ivoz> ericG: so selecting ntsf and /windows will leave vista as it is and let me boot into either?
[16:40] <shah16> hi, anyone having luck with voice chat with windows gtalk users..
[16:40] <Guest5012>  shah16
[16:40] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: why did you cancel? did you see any rare?
[16:40] <Guest5012>  EagleScreen
[16:40] <arand> rohtie: what does it say?
[16:40] <byyou> hyyyyyyyyyyy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[16:40] <EagleScreen> hi Guest5012!!
[16:40] <Guest5012>  EagleScreen
[16:40] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no.. just it was taking too long and somany packages..
[16:41] <erUSUL> !intel
[16:41] <Guest5012>  ubottu
[16:41] <rohtie> arand: unable to read contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[16:41] <Guest5012>  rohtie
[16:41] <shah16> hi, anyone having luck with voice chat with windows gtalk users..
[16:41] <Guest5012>  shah16
[16:41] <ericG> ivoz selecting ntsf and /windows _on your windows partition_ will let you access it from ubuntu. you need to create a new partition for ubuntu and set its 'use as' to ext3 or ext4, and mount to '/'
[16:41] <shah16> i think Guest5012 is a bot
[16:41] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: press Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to tty console
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:42] <rohtie> guest5012
[16:42] <Ivoz> ericG, do i need like a swapfile sub partition or something?
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am in..
[16:42] <ericG> Ivoz: that too.
[16:42] <EagleScreen> login mohanohi
[16:42] <buttons840> in the ls -l patern rwx, what does rwt mean?   what is the t?
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah.. i have..
[16:42] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[16:43] <Ivoz> ericG: So create another primary partition, then two sub partitions, one for swapfile one for ubuntu?
[16:43] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:43] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: stopped..
[16:43] <arand> rohtie: ah, I normally get that when the system is hibernated, and I've booted into ubuntu without waking it up, but in your case it may be the indication of the win boot problem I guess...
[16:43] <ericG> Ivoz: even if you don't setup the windows partition to be visible in ubuntu an entry will still be created so you can select either
[16:43] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what happens if you run 'startx' ?
[16:43] <rohtie> arand: Do you have any idea how to fix it?
[16:43] <ericG> ivoz yes
[16:44] <Ivoz> ericG: I'm not sure what you mean. How do i setup or not setup windows to be visible to ubuntu?
[16:44] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it opened some sort of grid type screen.. and login sound..
[16:44] <theatro> buttons840, it is a sticky bit
[16:44] <buttons840> theatro, what does that mean?
[16:44] <ericG> ivoz you are doing the partitioning. ubuntu will install a bootloader (grub) which will be used to select which OS you want to boot
[16:44] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu, the program border is missing. why could this be?
[16:44] <theatro> eh, well just google it
[16:44] <Ivoz> I think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition needs to be updated to reflect what the software shows
[16:45] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: did you hear login sound but dont see the desktop?
[16:45] <arand> rohtie: my guess would be using windows CDs receovery tools and similar... But I don't have much experience in that particualarly, sorry.
[16:45] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no.. :(
[16:45] <anr78> If I disable journaling on my os x drive, will Ubuntu automagically have write support when I mount from nautilus?
[16:45] <ericG> ivoz grub is used to load either ubuntu or windows, so it doesn't matter if ubuntu can 'see' your windows partition
[16:45] <rohtie> arand: Myabe i should just delete that partition
[16:45] <anr78> !hfs
[16:45] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: press Alt + F7 and tell me what you see
[16:45] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: here in console the last line says Compatible NVIDIA X drive rnot found..
[16:46] <arand> rohtie: if you are able to extract all valuable date off it, that and a reinstall would be an option, yes.
[16:46] <helpme> hi can anyone till me if there is a program to voice activate programs  by command
[16:46] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: in Alt + F7 just a gray blank screen..
[16:46] <Ivoz> ericG: It would be nice for ubuntu to be able to see the windows partition - is there some way of doing the partition that will not let it or something?
[16:46] <buttons840> theatro, it says even though someone has write, they can't rename or delete the file if sticky bit is set?
[16:46] <rohtie> arand: i can't reinstall because windows was preinstalled
[16:46] <vinaygeorgian_> hi
[16:47] <motomast3r> hi guys :)
[16:47] <arand> rohtie: ah, problem :(
[16:47] <rohtie> arand: i could maybe borrow a cd or somethin
[16:47] <motomast3r> anyone know how to install gtk 2.x themes ?
[16:47] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: hey.. what to do now?
[16:47] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to tty again (Ctrl Alt F2) to go to tty 2
[16:47] <ericG> ivoz then just set the use as options and mount point for the windows partition like we talked about before, create a new partition for ubuntu and set it to use as ext3 or ext4, and mount to /, and create one more for swap, set its 'use as' to swap and then click next :)
[16:48] <bazhang> motomast3r, drag the tar.gz to the theme manager usually does it
[16:48] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok
[16:48] <vinaygeorgian_> hi
[16:48] <motomast3r> barzhang realy :O
[16:48] <rohtie> arand: btw do you kn ow if windows supports ext?
[16:48] <arand> rohtie: a possibility yes, since you do have the license for it. By the way, how does windows fail to start?
[16:48] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: here in tty1 showing Failed to initilize GLX extension
[16:48] <bazhang> motomast3r, yes, from gnome-look.org ?
[16:48] <Ivoz> ericG: So at that point I would have 3 (in my case 4 as there is an extra HP partition) primary partitions?
[16:48] <ericG> you will be able to see your windows partition from ubuntu and grub will allow you to boot either windows or linux Ivoz
[16:48] <ericG> yea
[16:48] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: login and run '/sbin/ifconfig' and see if you have ip address in your net connection
[16:48] <motomast3r> thanks bashang for patience :)
[16:49] <MOUD> Hey all
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: how big should the swap partition be?
[16:49] <ericG> ivoz, how much ram do you have?
[16:49] <rohtie> arand: before coming to the login screen, it says configuring updates and then it reboots
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: I was planning to give ubuntu roughly 38gb free space
[16:49] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah,, i have connection,,
[16:49] <motomast3r> im forgot
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: i have 3gb ram
[16:49] <arand> rohtie: no, not as the main filesystem at least, it is possible with unofficial drivers to get access to the partition to read/write to it, but you'll never be able to install windows onto ext I don't think...
[16:49] <motomast3r> how to change a 5.1 sound volume
[16:49] <motomast3r> lika a bass midlle
[16:50] <bazhang> motomast3r, that should do it most cases, unless they have special instructions on the web page
[16:50] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-stantard xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core'
[16:50] <ericG> ivoz different people say different things...some say 1gb otheres say twice ram..i just set mine equal to ram but that could be overkill
[16:50] <MOUD> Is anyone using amsn? In here it keeps on the "Logging in" and doesn't login
[16:50] <rohtie> arand: maybe in 200years ^^
[16:50] <motomast3r> bazhang can you give to me link PLZ
[16:50] <motomast3r> ?
[16:51] <bazhang> gnome-look.org motomast3r check most downloaded and most popular for some good ones
[16:51] <arand> rohtie: this might be your problem?: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/31682422/configuring-updates-3-of.aspx
[16:51] <Ivoz> ericG: anywhere i can go to find out about it? It doesn't seem to be mentioned much in ubuntu installation instructions, i would like to make my own decision unless there is a tonne of reading to do
[16:51] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. did it..
[16:51] <MOUD> Ivoz: I have 3GB for swap but my RAM is 4GB
[16:52] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its saying it need about 100 mb to get download.. 1 to remove
[16:52] <MOUD> !swap
[16:52] <Pupeno> Would I have too many problems for using a NTFS partiton as /home
[16:52] <motomast3r> bazhang you not understand me :((((((
[16:52] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: accept, but what to be removed?
[16:52] <bazhang> motomast3r, for themes?
[16:52] <GPL> bazhang : ya checked, if VX-1000 is under supported list or not. hmm, i couldnt get it to work :( i tried everything i could.
[16:52] <rohtie> arand: yep, thats the exact problem
[16:52] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: scrollkeeper{a}
[16:53] <ericG> ivoz there is some discussion here, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2910
[16:53] <EagleScreen> accept mohanohi
[16:53]  * arand thinks the !swap entry should include a mention about hibernation as welll
[16:53] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok sir..
[16:53] <motomast3r> bazhang PM
[16:53] <rohtie> arand: but i cant use safe mode, and i dont have the cd >_> what to do?
[16:53] <Ivoz> from the faq it seems i should have 3gb or more to be able to hibernate?
[16:53] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow man.. it showing it takes 22 mins to download..
[16:53] <Luisito> es
[16:53] <bazhang> motomast3r, keep in channel please, tell the channel with as many details as possible what the issue what you tried, paste.ubuntu.com with error messages etc
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubunu- es
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubunu-es
[16:54] <MOUD> arand: do you use hibernate? I think that the computer gets somewhat slow after the hibernate
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[16:54] <ericG> more here ivoz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990458
[16:55] <motomast3r> bazhang no errors im almost complete soun changing tutorial
[16:55] <motomast3r> sound*
[16:55] <motomast3r> but im not understand how to add sound change bars
[16:55] <motomast3r> :(
[16:55] <bazhang> motomast3r, address the channel with your exact issue; 'sound issues' is not clear at all
[16:55] <arand> rohtie: look around and se if there are other options to fix it, or try to get hold of a windows cd for repairing. That's about all advice I can come up with...
[16:56] <GPL> motomast3r: i dont get, this term "sound change bars"
[16:56] <motomast3r> thats a crap for me :(
[16:56] <rohtie> arand: Ok thanks anyways! Maybe i can resize it after this is fixed
[16:56] <Ivoz> will the computer basically not be able to hibernate if the swap file isn't as big as your ram?
[16:56] <arand> rohtie: also, at this point, ##windows might be a better channel for help on the issue.
[16:56] <motomast3r> w8 i'm show
[16:57] <rohtie> arand: okay i ddint know there was a channel like that
[16:57] <ericG> thats what others have said ivoz, personally I do not know as I always suspend instead of hibernate
[16:57] <arand> rohtie: My guess would be that the partition is locked beacause of the update-loop yes.
[16:57] <rohtie> arand: Thanks, and cya :)
[16:57] <ericG> but my swap is also = to my ram so it in theory should work anyway
[16:58] <arand> rohtie: no problem, glad to help.
[16:59] <motomast3r> im not understand a last point
[16:59] <motomast3r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525
[17:00] <Ivoz> ericG: do you think an exactly 3072gb partition will be equal to ram or should i make it a bit bigger?
[17:00] <motomast3r> anyone hear me :(
[17:00] <arand> MOUD: in theory at least, hibernation should not impact performance, anything else I would presume is down to bugs...
[17:01] <ericG> ivoz youd probably be fine with 3072gb.
[17:01] <MOUD> arand: it used to get slower when I used ubunto 8.04 so I never used it again.
[17:02] <Alvinware> wat? ubuntu will get slower, and slower, and no defragment tool? moud?
[17:03] <arand> Alvinware: hibernation was our topic
[17:03] <DaZ> theoretycally ext4 doesn't need defragmentation
[17:03] <Alvinware> oh, ok, arand.
[17:03] <MOUD> Alvinware: I was talking about hibernation
[17:03] <Alvinware> ok 2 moud.
[17:03] <ryudo> hi
[17:03] <ryudo> anyone here
[17:03] <ryudo> i have a question
[17:04] <DaZ> good to know :f
[17:04] <ubuntistas> guys help
[17:04] <MOUD> arand: According to what I saw on some linux forums, if you are going to use hibernation then you need to have at least a swap size bigger or equal to your RAM size
[17:04] <ubuntistas> guys help
[17:04] <bazhang> ubuntistas, ask a question
[17:04] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: just ask! its support
[17:05] <ubuntistas> how can i dual boot
[17:05] <ubuntistas> iam in ubuntu now
[17:05] <bazhang> !dualboot > ubuntistas
[17:05] <ubuntistas> and i want to reinstall windows xp any clue?
[17:05] <bazhang> ubuntistas, do it and restore grub
[17:05] <Alvinware> arand, ubuntu orphan packages detector detects a lots of orphan package, but not all should be removed, cause actually it's not orphan, the detector go wrong, right? does the command too?
[17:05] <arand> MOUD: yes, since ram is dumped to swapspace, and the recovered when you unfreeze.
[17:05] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub ubuntistas
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> whats the best package for vm to install xp in ubuntu
[17:06] <arand> Alvinware: I have no idea, sorry.
[17:06] <MOUD> arand: exactly, it's like on windows
[17:06] <bazhang> FloridaGuy, no best, virtualbox-ose is in repos
[17:06] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: I've found http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning its pretty informative
[17:06] <ubuntistas> bazhang u mean after installation do i have to restore grub?
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> ok
[17:06] <bazhang> ubuntistas, yes, read the link
[17:06] <ubuntistas> thx ivoz
[17:06] <Alvinware> moud, just don't use hibernation, why hibernate? is it good?
[17:07] <arand> ubuntistas: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[17:08] <Ivoz> does ubuntu make a swap partition automatically when you install it (i am dual booting and partitioning), or should i do it myself and do i have to tell it where/what the swap partition is somewhere in install or after?
[17:08] <Alvinware> yes.
[17:08] <musikgoat> Ivoz: it does
[17:08] <bazhang> Ivoz, the guided installer will do it
[17:08] <Alvinware> u could define it too.
[17:09] <Ivoz> I was planning to use the manual installer so i could define what size to make the ubuntu partition
[17:09] <ubuntistas> guys u misunderstood i am in ubuntu and i want install windows xp
[17:09] <marcelo_> hi, I have some processes running on the background, how do I put one of then in the foreground(since fg puts only the last one in the foreground)?
[17:09] <arand> Ivoz: if you use automatic partitioning the swap is automatically created, if you use manual you will have to create it yourself.
[17:09] <bazhang> ubuntistas, yes, do so then restore grub (read the link on how to do so)
[17:09] <chain> hi
[17:10] <arand> ubuntistas: the link I gave you should tell you how to do that.
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> sudo grub
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> find /boot/grub/stage1
[17:10] <MOUD> Alvinware: I don't like to use hibernation but some people do. I'm not sure if there is any good advantage of hibernating
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> root (hdx,x)
[17:10] <Thor_allmighty> who is the Supereme Ruler in here?
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> setup hdX
[17:10] <chain> มีคัยคนไทยมั่ง
[17:10] <Alvinware> moud, save energy.
[17:10] <ubuntistas> ok arand
[17:11] <arand> Thor_allmighty: if you want ops, look in #ubuntu-ops.
[17:12] <ubuntistas> arand too complicated for me
[17:12] <NauTiluS1> :O
[17:12] <NauTiluS1> is easy :S
[17:12] <Alvinware> +
[17:12] <Alvinware> -
[17:13] <grawity> Alvinware: ±
[17:13] <arand> ubuntistas: dual-booting is a bit complicated, inevitably... So you have installed ubuntu and nothing else currently...
[17:13] <ubuntistas> yup
[17:14] <IdleOne> ubuntistas, read through that link once or twice and then give it a go. the worst that can happen is you will have to re-install ubuntu and the best that will happen is you will succeed and learn something new today and feel really good about yourself
[17:15] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:15] <ubuntistas> i don't want experiments i want real solutions
[17:15] <bazhang> ubuntistas, then follow the links given you.
[17:15] <IdleOne> ubntithat is a real solution but it requires that you do a little work
[17:16] <bazhang> ubuntistas, it is well documented and done by many users.
[17:16] <Ivoz> ubuntistas, people probably aren't willing to hold your hand through it...
[17:16] <GreyGhost> ubuntistas, if u dnt want to experiment .. dnt use linux .. as a matter of fact dnt use computers ..
[17:16] <IdleOne> linux is a continuous learning experience
[17:17] <GreyGhost> yep .. wt IdleOne ..
[17:17] <NauTiluS1> ;)
[17:17] <Ivoz> does a swap area parition need to be primary if the ubuntu partition is primary or can it be logical?
[17:17] <banjoz> Hello , what is the best fonts for ubuntu , the default dont look so good
[17:17] <bazhang> !fonts | banjoz
[17:17] <NauTiluS1> logical is good ;)
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow... downloaded..
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its installing..
[17:18] <Ivoz> NauTiluS1: so ubuntu won't mind the swap area being logical next to it?
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: finished...
[17:18] <arand> ubuntistas: if you are not comfortable with the guides out there then I don't think you will be able to get a dual-boot, since that is the normal solution.
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now.. should i restart the system?
[17:18] <NauTiluS1> yes ;)
[17:19] <IdleOne> ubuntistas, an hour ago mohanohi here was ready to slam his computer accross a wall, now look at him. he read a bit followed some instructions and is smilling
[17:19] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to tty1 (Alt F1) -> Ctrl + C to kill X server and run 'startx' again
[17:19] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. now i restarted..
[17:19] <zhshs> hi
[17:19] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: the same thing..
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: :(
[17:20] <Ivoz> i want the 'mount point' to be /boot for my ubuntu installation partition?
[17:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: i need you need to install the nvidia restricted driver
[17:20] <Ivoz> or perahaps '/'?
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[17:20] <arand> Ivoz: no, just /
[17:20] <grawity> Ivoz: /
[17:20] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:20] <IdleOne> well he was smilling hehe
[17:20] <cdavis> I switched to fluxbox, anyone know how to make fluxbox automount a usb drive? gnome-volume-manager isn't on my system and doesn't seem like I should have to install it since mounting is automatic in gnome
[17:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what ubuntu release do u have?
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: whats the command to do from tty?
[17:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: 8.10
[17:21] <arand> Ivoz: /boot is if you want a separate partition just for the bootloader (grub).
[17:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: 64 bit..
[17:21] <NauTiluS1> ;)
[17:21] <NauTiluS1> primary particion
[17:22] <Ivoz> arand: is that a good idea for dual boot?
[17:22] <Ivoz> I wish this partition editor would do things in proper 1024 bytes
[17:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do?
[17:23] <NauTiluS1> separate partition for the sector and whether pot is a good option
[17:23] <NauTiluS1> make it a primary partition that is also where they will be hosting the system partition, in your case /
[17:24] <arand> Ivoz: it could be... it is not normally used, and I have never had the need to use it, I would guess it's a good idea if you have a lot of linux os-es you multi-boot and reinstall...
[17:24] <NauTiluS1> courtesy of google translator: P
[17:24] <NauTiluS1>  my English is not very good even
[17:24] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am waiting sir ...
[17:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: install packages nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules
[17:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok :)
[17:25] <Galik> Hi, where can I download individual debs for Ubuntu 9?
[17:26] <ikonia> Galik: use the package manager, the ubuntu debs are the in the repos
[17:26] <ubuntistas> with what software can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:26] <Galik> ikonia: I'm using Fedora :) I just want to steal a couple of your debs hehe
[17:26] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it showed me to select exact ver for nvidia-glx.. i selected 180..
[17:26] <Ivoz> so my Vista ntfs partition should have a mount point of /windows?
[17:26] <ikonia> Galik: then pull them out of the repos
[17:26] <jrib> Galik: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: and shown it was already installed..
[17:27] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: the ubuntu live CD can do it
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: now installing restricted modules.
[17:27] <EagleScreen> then set driver nvidia in xorg.conf
[17:27] <Ivoz> ubtuntistas: system > administration > partition editor
[17:27] <Galik> jrib: thnx a bunch :)
[17:27] <ubuntistas> ivoz how?
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow.. how?
[17:28] <ericG> yes ivoz
[17:28] <bcdn> can some one help me with my dual screen laptop? I have seen a few how-to's for my specific model but they all relate to ubutnu 6.06 and I have 9.04. I have a dell D600 with and ATI 9000 mobility
[17:28] <arand> Ivoz: Hmm, I don't think you should touch the ntfs partition in the installer, other than to rezise it to make room.
[17:28] <ericG> ubuntistas: use gparted
[17:28] <ubuntistas> i upgraded ivoz and the live cd has the previous version is that a problem?
[17:28] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: open it in text editor: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:29] <ericG> arand you can set the ntfs partition to use as ntfs and mount /windows and it will automatically mount in ubuntu. it will be fine as long as the format box isnt checked, its how I have mine setup
[17:29] <shamm> brb
[17:29] <Ivoz> arand: I think ericG said said I should use /windows... arg
[17:29] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its installing linux-image 2.6.27-14 generic file..
[17:29] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: look for Section Device      Driver "nv" and replace by "nvidia"
[17:29] <arand> ericG: Ivoz: Ok, it's just that I never tried that...
[17:29] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: you can also just download gparted if you don't need ur disk to be offline
[17:30] <arand> ubuntistas: what version of gparted you use should not be a problem in this case no.
[17:31] <bcdn> when I try to use System>Prefs>display to activate my second display in anything other than mirror my screens both go nuts and make it impossibe to do any thing. Can some one help me?
[17:31] <eladh7> hello world!
[17:31] <FloridaGuy> im just installed virtualbox ose...got everything setup for my vm size...put the windows xp cd in...got to where windows cd is detecting the unpartitioned space with is my 6 gb of vm space..do i format that just as if i was installing windows by it sel..?
[17:32] <jrib> FloridaGuy: yeah
[17:32]  * arand is afk.
[17:32] <jrib> !away > arand
[17:32] <ericG> ivoz, i should clarify that the /windows and ntfs setup works for me with XP, I have not tried it with vista but it should work the same.
[17:32] <FloridaGuy> jrib, of thanks..what would be better nt or fat32
[17:32] <ubuntistas> i upgraded arand and the live cd has the previous version is that a problem?
[17:32] <ubuntistas> i just installed gparted
[17:33] <jrib> FloridaGuy: ntfs is probably better for windows
[17:33] <ericG> ubuntistas: it doesn't matter which version of the livecd you use as you will only be using it to run gparted on on unmounted disk
[17:33] <Lunar_Lamp> I have a filetype that I've chosen to open with a specific application.  How do I remove this association?
[17:33] <FloridaGuy> jrib, ok...was just woundering sence its vm
[17:34] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: the file doesn't contain any nv..
[17:34] <ubuntistas> ericg how can i open gparted i just installed it
[17:34] <grawity> FloridaGuy, jrib: If a filesystem is shared between Windows and Linux, ntfs is probably the best choice.
[17:34] <ericG> ubuntistas: hit alt+F2 and type gparted should work.
[17:35] <ubuntistas> ok
[17:35] <FloridaGuy> grawity, ok thanks
[17:35] <ubuntistas> with what software can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:35] <ubuntistas> i mean how with gparted?
[17:35] <Janos> hello, I'm pretty new (to Ubuntu and IRC both) and I have what is likely a stupid question
[17:36] <mook1> howdy guys i got a few questons about ubuntu mabe you guys can help
[17:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: are u there?
[17:36] <mook1> do i gotta have windows installed to use wine ?
[17:36] <Ivoz> ok... wish me luck
[17:36] <theatro> mook1, no
[17:36] <GPL> mook1: Nope.
[17:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: should i reinstall ubuntu? i think this is not solvable problem :(
[17:37] <wiehan> How do I stream from one vlc to another over my netwrok
[17:37] <geirha> Janos: Don't worry about that, just ask :)
[17:37] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: reinstall if it is the easier way for you
[17:37] <ubuntistas> how can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:37] <mook1> cool i have xp on cd im just trying to figure out what video card  my gf has in her pc im lazy and dont wanna crack the case is thare a way in ubuntu ?
[17:37] <ericG> ivoz, good luck. it shouldnt make any changes until you get to the summary screen and press install
[17:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. i think i don't have any chance left :(
[17:38] <Janos> okay :D from time to time while exploring I'll screw something up (at the moment its wireless drivers) - is there a simple way to 'fix' an ubuntu install in place (e.g. re obtain the default shipped drivers) without reinstalling clean?
[17:38] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i love jaunty to install...  but it hangs my system..
[17:38] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:38] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: don't know why... :(
[17:38] <Ivoz> Thakns heaps for all ur help ericG, MOUD, arand!
[17:38] <motomast3r> im downloaded tar.gz setup how to install this ?
[17:38] <theatro> mook1, try lspci | grep VGA
[17:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: anyhow i will stick to 8.10
[17:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: thanx for ur time with me..
[17:39] <mook1> yout talking to a blithering idiot lol im new to ubuntu
[17:39] <motomast3r> im remember a make kommand
[17:39] <theatro> mook1, open a terminal and run the command
[17:40] <mook1> k
[17:40] <motomast3r> what command ?
[17:40] <Slart> motomast3r: it might be different depending on who created the tar.gz
[17:40] <Xerran1> Can anyone please tell me why jaunty x64 becomes unresponsive?
[17:40] <Slart> motomast3r: some packed files just contain a binary file.. just as in windows. You need to read the instructions from whoever created that file
[17:40] <geirha> Janos: It's a bit complicated. It depends on what you've done really, but in most cases a reinstall will be unneccesary.
[17:40] <Slart> Xerran1: you need to provide some more details..
[17:41] <FloridaGuy> how well is windows xp going to run on a 1ghz AMD Duron 512 mb ram with nvidia GF6 with 256 vid ram..in VM
[17:41] <eladh7> hello, I need help
[17:41] <motomast3r> no instructions
[17:41] <Ivoz> eladh7, just ask :)
[17:41] <Slart> Xerran1: does it happen when you do something special? for how long is it responsive? anything in the logs? and so on
[17:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Hello all
[17:41] <mook1> shold i post all the crap that came up  ? is that cool ?
[17:41] <geirha> Janos: Did you follow a guide?
[17:41] <Slart> motomast3r: then unpack the file (just double click on it in gnome) and see if there are instructions in there.. usually in a README or INSTALL file
[17:41] <Janos> geirha: what I need to do specifically is reinstall the b43 wireless drivers, as my wireless card is now coming up as 'unasigned'
[17:41] <bcdn> do i need the ATI drivers to do dual screen on my 9000m or do the FOSS drivers work?
[17:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Why is the repo version of firefox 3.5 called by its codename (Shiretoko)?
[17:41] <Ivoz> mook1 - goto pastebin.com, paste it in there, then paste the url to your paste
[17:42] <Slart> motomast3r: where did you download this file from?
[17:42] <Xerran1> Slart: every so often the menus get corrupted and I can't not click on anything
[17:42] <wiehan> How do I stream over network with VLC - I have a party in 3 minutes and need a solution, PM me please
[17:42] <Slart> Xerran1: does ctrl+alt+f1 work? that should get you a tty (a terminal window)
[17:42] <Xerran1> Slart: I could be just browsing the file system or the web when it happens
[17:42] <eladh7> i have problem with flash videos. when i watch on youtube the video run slowly, how can i fix this problem?
[17:42] <mook1> im just trying to figure out witch card she has because i wanna run eq on linux under wine because i know  linux does not have limitations like windows
[17:43] <Slart> Xerran1: when this happens you could check in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log for anything that looks suspicius
[17:43] <geirha> Janos: What have you tried so far? Did you try ndiswrapper perhaps?
[17:43] <Ivoz> wiehan - would http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch02.html help perhaps
[17:43] <Ivoz> mook1 - do you have the paste?
[17:44] <saniflex> on stoll
[17:44] <motomast3r> Slart not working :(
[17:44] <eladh7> i install flash adobe
[17:44] <mook1> the wierd thing this is a dell  thare site says its a nvidia 6800 series but... i cant run the restricted driver thare nothing in the list sadly
[17:44] <Xerran1> Slart: ctrl, alt f1 works
[17:44] <Ivoz> eladh7 - do you know what your connection speed is? is it fast enough?
[17:44] <Janos> geirha> I used 43-fcutter to get the firmware (its a broadcom driver) and it was working with the out of the box ubuntu drivers; then I was walking through the instal for the newest driver, and now it doesn't :-(
[17:44] <mook1> i will in a sec let me  log into that site
[17:44] <Ivoz> mook1, it doesn't need a login
[17:44] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:45] <buttons840> can anyone suggest a good source to learn how to setup a shared folder from one ubuntu linux to another?   i've found lots of talk on windows shared drives, but ii'm not concerned with windows
[17:45] <mook1> ok give me a sec to get this copied and what not
[17:46] <motomast3r> any1 can help me >>>>>>>>ON PM<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[17:46] <Slart> Xerran1: ok.. so your system still works.. it might be Xorg that has died.. or something with the graphics drivers
[17:46] <Ivoz> buttons840: have you considered setting up a seperate partition that each installation can access?
[17:46] <geirha> Janos: I have no experience with broadcom myself, but from what I can read from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx , I'd try reconfiguring the b43-fwcutter package.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure b43-fwcutter
[17:46] <buttons840> Ivoz, no, the folder i want to access is on another computer
[17:47] <Janos> geirha> Thanks - I'll give that command a try!
[17:47] <geirha> Janos: Or, maybe reinstall it with: sudo aptitude reinstall b43-fwcutter
[17:47] <Janos> obliged
[17:48] <mook1> http://pastebin.com/d74f8dc93
[17:48] <LMJ> hi
[17:48] <mook1> i guese thats what you want no ?
[17:48] <Pafuin> hello, I need some help with aircrack
[17:48] <Pafuin> can anyone help me ?
[17:48] <IdleOne> When running tar xvfj pandodl-0.9.0.0.tar.bz2 I get bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Can someone gimme a hand here please
[17:48] <shamm> lspci | grep vga
[17:48] <shamm> use | pipe
[17:48] <Janos> g> you wouldn't know what the package with the out of the box ubuntu wireless drivers is would you?
[17:48] <Pafuin> I am using Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <shamm> mook1:  lspci | grep vga
[17:49] <ctmjr> mook1: the command is lspci | grep VGA use the pipe as suggested
[17:50] <fik> hi hello, i just bought myself a new packerd bell easynote LJ65 and i cant seem to get my touchpad going. i couldn't find the correct driver
[17:50] <IdleOne> !touchpad
[17:50] <shamm> the "|" can be found right above "enter" button
[17:50] <IdleOne> shift+\ gives you |
[17:50] <Slart> !who
[17:51] <Slart> and I think keyboards are different in different places around the world..
[17:51] <zvacet> Slart: alt gr + w
[17:51] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:52] <Slart> zvacet: huh?
[17:52] <earthen> anyone know how i can direct ubuntu to get updates from a usb stick
[17:52] <Slart> riz0n: it's like that for all windows?
[17:52] <zvacet> Slart : do you want to type |
[17:52] <riz0n> Slart: yes
[17:52] <riz0n> Slart: if i open terminal, its just a white box, no cursor
[17:53] <Slart> zvacet: nope.. and on my keyboard its Altgr+<    =)
[17:53] <Slart> riz0n: sounds like the decorator has died.. hang on.. let me check something real quick
[17:53] <Pafuin> I need some help
[17:53] <zvacet> Slart : sorry then
[17:53] <fik> IdleOne: i don't understand
[17:54] <geirha> Janos: No, but most likely it's shipped with the kernel package
[17:54] <Pafuin> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:54] <Pafuin> can anyone help me?
[17:54] <IdleOne> fik, what don't you understand?
[17:54] <Janos> !geirha ah that makes sense
[17:54] <Slart> zvacet: no worries =)
[17:54] <wahyu> met malem
[17:54] <IdleOne> !ask | Pafuin
[17:55] <heavenquake> if Apache segfaults on service start, both the normal apache package from the ubuntu repos and the xampp binary downloaded from their website, and it didn't do that the last time Ubunt was installed on the machine, then what can the problem be?
[17:55] <geirha> Janos: BTW, make sure my full nick is the first part of your message if you want to adress me. My irc-client will highlight the message then, so I can easily read it through all the noise
[17:55] <Pafuin> airmon-ng start wlan0
[17:55] <Pafuin> Interface	Chipset		Driver
[17:55] <Pafuin> wlan0			ath9k - [phy0]/usr/local/sbin/airmon-ng: 856: cannot create /sys/class/ieee80211/phy0/add_iface: Directory nonexistent
[17:55] <Pafuin> mon0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[17:55] <Pafuin> 				(monitor mode enabled on mon0)
[17:55] <FloodBot3> Pafuin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <fik> IdleOne, i cant get my touchpad driver to work, i am not even sure if it is a synaptics touchpad, and i don't find drivers in google
[17:55] <Slart> riz0n: try running this in a terminal "gtk-window-decorator --replace"
[17:55] <shamm> Pafuin: http://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Question-Intelligently
[17:55] <Pafuin> I get this error
[17:56] <geirha> Janos: Was it a kernel update that made it stop working?
[17:56] <spydon> how can I scroll in TTY1?
[17:56] <Slart> spydon: normally you cant
[17:56] <dtownhero> Hello, I was editing a sound file within my desktop and now I cannot boot. I'm using live CD, is there anyway I can edit that file to reverse the changes without having to completely reinstall?
[17:56] <ivantis> Would this be the right place to ask questions about mysql problems on ubuntu server?
[17:57] <shamm> spydon: <command> | less
[17:57] <ikonia> ivantis: what's up ?
[17:57] <shamm> spydon: i.e. cat filename | less
[17:57] <IdleOne> When running tar xvfj pandodl-0.9.0.0.tar.bz2 I get bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Can someone gimme a hand here please
[17:57] <Janos> geirha > no it was me replacing the wl.ko file in libs/modules/blah/volatile with a newly compiled version from broadcom. when it didn't work I repalced the original file, but still doesn;t work (thank goodness for wired access)
[17:57] <Slart> ivantis: you can give it a try.. you might get better answeres in a mysql specific channel but you can always try here first if you want
[17:57] <ivantis> ikonia, mysql eats ALL of my VPS RAM. It says fork: cannot allocate memory even in /etc/init.d/mysql
[17:57] <ikonia> IdleOne: run file against it
[17:57] <IdleOne> fik,  I believe that link should be able to help you but I am not sure
[17:57] <Pafuin> IdleOne:  I am trying to start airmon-ng on ubuntu and I get an error, I think is beaucase of my wireless driver... anyone can help me?
[17:57] <spydon> shamm, but I have allready run the command, and I need to see what it printed
[17:57] <grawity> IdleOne: Try just tar xvf pandodl-*.tar.bz2
[17:57] <ikonia> ivantis: how much ram does your machine have ?
[17:58] <spydon> Slart, okay :/
[17:58] <ivantis> Luke-Jr, how much ram do I have?
[17:58] <zvacet> ivantis : #ubuntu-server
[17:58] <shamm> spydon: command > filename && less filename
[17:58] <mook_> ok lets try  this again
[17:58] <Luke-Jr> ivantis: 128 MB, with burst to 256 MB
[17:58] <geirha> Janos: dpkg -S /libs/modules/blah/volatile    <- will tell you what package initially installed that file
[17:58] <IdleOne> ikonia, output is : pandodl-0.9.0.0.tar.bz2: ASCII text
[17:58] <Janos> geirha: ah! cunning!
[17:58] <earthen> anyone know how i can direct ubuntu to get updates from a usb drive
[17:58] <mook_> ok what was command to find the card ?
[17:58] <geirha> Janos: Er.. with /wl.ko at the end
[17:58] <ikonia> IdleOne: looks like someones put the wrong extention on it, or it's downloaded the link rather than the file, vi it
[17:59] <shamm> mook_: lspci | grep vga
[17:59] <dtownhero> Hello, I was editing a sound file within my desktop and now I cannot boot. I'm using live CD, is there anyway I can edit that file to reverse the changes without having to completely reinstall?
[17:59] <spydon> shamm, but I have allready run the command and I can't rerun it because it will give a diffrent outcome this time
[17:59] <shamm> spydon: use command > filename && less filename as a habit.  what was done is done. :(?
[18:00] <mook_> nothin came up
[18:00] <IdleOne> ikonia, looks like your right about the link
[18:00] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:00] <shamm> mook_: Looks like your vga was not initialized by kernel.
[18:00] <spydon> shamm, yeah...
[18:00] <mook_>  ok what can i do about that then ?
[18:00] <shamm> mook_: what video card do you use?
[18:01] <mook_> im copuing and pasting just fyi so...
[18:01] <geirha> Janos: Hm. On my system it doesn't find any package for that file, which possibly means it is being generated after the package is installed. But I'd try reinstalling linux-image-blah
[18:01] <shamm> mook_: ok
[18:02] <mook_> thats the thing i dont know what card is in here  shamm im trying to figure out i with thare was an app to show the specs like model vender all that stuff
[18:02] <Janos> geirha: lots of thanks, I'll be back if it doesn't work
[18:02] <zvacet> earthen:http://paste.ubuntu.com/253736/
[18:02] <riz0n> i think gtk theme extensions are messed up on my computer. what can i do to fix this?
[18:02] <shamm> mook_: Let me refresh my memory, i haven't done that in years...
[18:02] <buttons840> do the ubuntu docs have any information on setting up a shared folder or accessing it over the network?   i did find one page, but it was a GUI totorial and my server doesn't have a gui
[18:02] <ubuntistas> iam logged in live cd how can i install ntfs for windows?
[18:02] <mook_> thats ok shamm i need a new beer and a restroom break you pick your noodle for a sec
[18:03] <grawity> buttons840: I assume you mean sharing over Samba? Install samba, edit /etc/samba/samba.config
[18:03] <shamm> mook_: try lspci | grep VGA
[18:03] <ubuntistas> Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[18:03] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[18:04] <sunny36> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop(Dell Vostro 1310) and the audio is very very low. Any suggestions of how to solve this problem?
[18:04] <grawity> ubuntistas: Open gparted.
[18:04] <shamm> mook_: not vga, but VGA (captialized)
[18:04] <shamm> mook_: linux is very case sensivie.
[18:04] <grawity> shamm: Unless you grep -i
[18:04] <shamm> grawity: ah
[18:04] <shamm> *added* to my mind file.
[18:05] <Pafuin> ath9k - [phy0]/usr/local/sbin/airmon-ng: 856: cannot create /sys/class/ieee80211/phy0/add_iface: Directory nonexistent
[18:05] <Pafuin> mon0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[18:05] <Pafuin> anyone can help?
[18:05] <mook_> ok i'll give that a try
[18:05] <buttons840> grawity, the only samba.config on my system (samba is installed) is in usr/var/dpkg?
[18:05] <ubuntistas> grawity i opened it
[18:05] <ubuntistas> next?
[18:05] <EagleScreen> to create NTFS partition ntfsprogs package is needed
[18:05] <grawity> buttons840: There isn't one in /etc/samba?
[18:06] <grawity> EagleScreen: I think the LiveCD includes this, since it includes gparted too.
[18:06] <buttons840> grawity, do you mean smb.conf ?
[18:06] <mook_> ok shamm this is what i got bud
[18:06] <mook_> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300
[18:06] <grawity> buttons840: ah, yeah. That.
[18:06] <Slart> !info ntfsprogs | EagleScreen
[18:06] <_marekt> hi i have a problem with dependencies in gnome-games, here is output: http://pastebin.com/m871a810
[18:06] <Xqtftqx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1241036 < Can anybody with knowledge of cpio look at that
[18:07] <buttons840> so samba is the program responsible for sharing folder in linux?
[18:07] <mook_> now i think i need the driver for it
[18:07] <ubuntistas> iam in live cd i've opened gparted how can i create a ntfs partition
[18:07] <grawity> buttons840: Samba is the Linux SMB server, yes.
[18:07] <mook_> shamm you think thare a driver for it ?
[18:08] <shamm> mook_: yes there should be -- hold on, looking for it.
[18:08] <grawity> buttons840: SMB and NFS are the two most popular protocols - SMB is the most commonly used one, used by Windows. (It's also called CIFS.)
[18:08] <mook_> ahh sweet your the man
[18:08] <arand> jrib: sorry about the afk before, since I had open conversations I thought it would be the least rude way to leave them.
[18:08] <shamm> mook_ are you in console or in GUI?
[18:09] <mook_> just a terminal i dont know how to get into root
[18:09] <grawity> mook_: sudo -i
[18:09] <jrib> arand: oh didn't realize, that's fine
[18:09] <grawity> mook_: but only if you actually need root.
[18:09] <buttons840> grawity, when i go to a folders share tab, and have those options, how can i set those from the command line, i've looked in man samba but it's a little short
[18:10] <mook_> ok now im in   the root just fyi
[18:10] <grawity> buttons840: You would need to edit the config to create a new share - then restart samba.
[18:10] <mook_> im just letting shamm know whare im at so he knows whats going on
[18:10] <shamm> mook_ did you insall xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop?
[18:10] <mook_> hmm not sure \
[18:11] <shamm> mook_: which one do you prefer -- gnome or KDE?
[18:11] <mook_>  oh ok i sound like an idiot but i know it works um i think this is kde
[18:12] <shamm> mook_: it's alright, you can always switch between gnome or KDE --
[18:12] <shamm> mook_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:12] <shamm> mook_: do you know how to switch VT's?
[18:12] <mook_> the funny thing is you ask me anthing about windows i'll tell you but  ubuntu im a blithering idiot
[18:13] <mook_> no i dont know how to switch
[18:13] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance iam in live cd any clue?
[18:14] <earthen> anyone try and update straight from hardy to jaunty
[18:14] <Alvinware> How to install webcam?
[18:14] <arand> earthen: generally not possible, you will have to go in steps.
[18:14] <mook_> ok shamm what do you want me in and how do i switch ?
[18:14] <ctmjr> !webcam | Alvinware
[18:15] <mook_> ah man
[18:15] <shamm> sorry -- pressed wrong "X"
[18:15] <mook_> wb
[18:15] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance of my live cd any clue?
[18:15] <arand> earthen: only to -> LTS supports direct upgrades.
[18:15] <emanuele> hello
[18:15] <aaron11> #kubuntu
[18:15] <earthen> arand,  I have hardy is a LTS version isn't it
[18:15] <shamm> mook_: did you use this command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[18:16] <mook_> no i downloaded then  burned it then installed
[18:16] <emanuele> i've got ubuntu 9.04 64 bit and i'm trying to recording a sample audio from my microphone but i don't hear anything from my registration
[18:16] <shamm> mook_: what did you download? specific iso filename please
[18:16] <emanuele> i'm using alsa as sound capture
[18:16] <arand> earthen: yes, I meant _to_ and LTS, so when 10.04 is realeased you will probably be able to direct upgrade, but not before then.
[18:16] <nannes> emanuele: spiegati meglio digli che se provi ad abilitare il microfonino poi esci e rientri e li trovi di nuovi disabilitati
[18:17] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance of my live cd any clue?
[18:17] <mook_> wow um i know its l;atest verson
[18:17] <EagleScreen> yes, LTS to LTS upgrades are supported
[18:17] <shamm> mook_: ubuntu-server?
[18:17] <mook_> let me see if i can find the cd
[18:17] <shamm> ok
[18:17] <nannes> emanuele: spiegati meglio digli che se provi ad abilitare il microfonino poi esci e rientri e li trovi di nuovi disabilitati
[18:17] <Ivoz> wooo ubuntu install worked!
[18:18] <Blaster> hey. is it possible to add a user which is restricted to just a single dir (chrooted) on ubuntu?
[18:18] <arand> !eng | emanuele
[18:18] <earthen> arand, ok i c
[18:18] <Ivoz> i would like to know how to make sure my ubuntu is using my swap file partition
[18:18] <arand> !english > emanuele
[18:18] <EagleScreen> earthen: you can upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 in Kubuntu
[18:18] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance of my live cd any clue?
[18:18] <mook_> shamm sadly dude i have no clue she musta hid the cd its not whare its supsed to  be
[18:19] <shamm> mook_: ok try this command anyway -- sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:19] <EagleScreen> earthen: and really in any Ubuntu, but you have to do it by upgrading with package manager and you have to be carefully
[18:19] <mook_> i'll spank her later... promise
[18:19] <Brillbabil> zeit
[18:19] <emanuele> when i try to enable "capture" "capture1" and "capture2" in my recording section of volume control if i exit to this window and reopen it the three controls has been disabled
[18:19] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:19] <mook_> its installing
[18:20] <tonii> Blaster: read the chroot manual
[18:20] <shamm> mook_: ok -- lemme know when its done
[18:20] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance of my live cd any clue?
[18:20] <mook_> man i really apreciate the help
[18:21] <arand> Ivoz: use the command cat /proc/swaps or look in the system monitor under resources, if it says that there are any swap available.
[18:21] <shamm> mook_:  no problem, hope you learned in the process.
[18:21] <mook_> yeah i did not i know how to get into root atleast
[18:21] <Ivoz> arand: ok it says 3.0GiB, should be fine?
[18:22] <shamm> mook_: when you do "sudo <command>" you are doing things in root mode.
[18:22] <mook_> its doing the old python thing now
[18:22] <ubuntistas> i want to copy the human appearance of my live cd any clue?
[18:22] <shamm> mook_: if you want to go into root, you can do this "sudo su"
[18:22] <mook_> im in root
[18:22] <shamm> mook_: but this is not recommended practice.
[18:22] <arand> Ivoz: yes, that would imply that it is in use.
[18:22] <earthen> EagleScreen, I trying to do that I have the cd inserted but I will not give me the option to upgrade
[18:23] <earthen> EagleScreen, it wants to download hardy first
[18:23] <EagleScreen> earthen: ehich CD?
[18:23] <EagleScreen> which CD?
[18:23] <mook_> i now shamm thats like windows i  have two degres in computer programming but its windows and dos crap when it comes to abuntu im lost
[18:23] <arand> Ivoz: if you launch a ton of memory hungra apps you could see if it starts using some swap...
[18:23] <earthen> EagleScreen, jaunty
[18:23] <SirFunk> hey
[18:23] <rek> there are really a lot of stupid people that won't help in irc...they expel people from using linux...they're really impolite ...... what do u think ?
[18:23] <SirFunk> for some reason every minute or so.. the notification system pops up my brightness as being full
[18:23] <SirFunk> i'm not changing it or anything
[18:23] <EagleScreen> earthen: if you do not have a good internet connection you need the alternate jaunty CD
[18:23] <SirFunk> it's getting annoying
[18:23] <mook_> 23% i really need to upgrade her ram omg
[18:24] <earthen> EagleScreen,  ok thats the problem then
[18:24] <EagleScreen> but earthen, you can upgrade directly form internet connection
[18:24] <mook_> 27 lol
[18:24] <shamm> mook_: it's download speed, not RAM
[18:24] <earthen> EagleScreen,  yeah I know but thats not a option right now with that computer
[18:24] <mook_> no she is only running 512
[18:24]  * shamm is using 4Gb
[18:24] <shamm> *faints*
[18:25] <shamm> 512M
[18:25] <mook_> yeppers
[18:25] <earthen> EagleScreen, I was hopeing to upgrade with out downloading
[18:25] <Guest66133> i'm having some trouble with my uncooperative screen.
[18:25] <SmithX> hey everyone
[18:25] <SmithX> I'm trying to figure out ubuntu package management, and it seems crazy
[18:25]  * shamm is running 3 QUAD and 1 8 processors at work
[18:25] <SmithX> there's dpkg, dpkg-X, aptitude, apt-X, etc etc etc
[18:25] <mook_> on my pc im running wine but the thing is im useing nvida so i just had to enable the driver but i got 64gb ram on it
[18:25] <SmithX> wtf is up with that?
[18:25] <Chousuke> SmithX: dpkg-X?
[18:25] <Guest66133> it's stuck on 1280x1024
[18:26] <SmithX> Chousuke: dpkg-query, etc
[18:26] <Guest66133> i need it at 1920x1080
[18:26] <Alvinware> ctmjr, why i'm getting this errors, easycam2-gtk: Depends: python2.4-glade2 but it is not installable, Depends: python2.4-gtk2 but it is not installable? Am i using Gnome, the XScript Client?
[18:26] <mook_> i dunno im like the amd 64 its not a bad chip never let me down but i know im due for an upgrade
[18:26] <Ivoz> anyoen know why ubuntu is telling me updates for firefox 3.0 and not 3.5?
[18:27] <mook_> ok shamm 44
[18:27] <shamm> mook_: koolio
[18:27] <Chousuke> SmithX: dpkg is the package manager (there are multiple tools that are collectively "dpkg"), APT is a dependency-resolving frontend to it that supports repositories (and has again multiple implementations in apt-get & co, aptitude and synaptic etc.)... and that's about it.
[18:27] <LinuxGold> back to my old nick. :)
[18:28] <Chousuke> SmithX: usually, you will be using one of the APT tools to install and remove packages.
[18:28] <Janhouse> Anyone uses Direct Connect on Ubuntu? I guess DC++ is not working but maybe there are some good alternatives you suggest?
[18:28] <Chousuke> SmithX: I prefer aptitude but apt-* work fine too.
[18:28] <earthen> EagleScreen, guess the best idea would be jusy to do a fresh install
[18:29] <felixsulla> Can a "regular" (non-sudo/non-root) user create a Cron in Ubuntu?
[18:29] <EagleScreen> earthen: you can do a fresh install, yes
[18:29] <Chousuke> felixsulla: yes. crontab -e
[18:29] <yoyoned> !CRON
[18:29] <SmithX> Ivoz: do you have both installed?
[18:29] <shivek> which group owns /var/www
[18:30] <rek> earthen:  Chousuke lamer ecc ecc bazhang EagleScreen ogra smith : 2009-08-15 19:10:02.668 Fatal Error: Audio not configured, you need to run 'mythfrontend', not 'mythtv'
[18:30] <Ivoz> SmithX: i have just installed 9.04 from scratch, hardly done anything to it
[18:30] <rek> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/253696/
[18:30] <rek> help
[18:30] <mook_> 65
[18:31] <Janhouse> Looking for DC++ for Linux
[18:31] <nannes> rek: ti stavo aiutando io su #ubuntu-it e te ne sei andato!
[18:31] <smacktalk> Hi everyone
[18:31] <smacktalk> what's the command to see all the processes that are running?
[18:31] <yoyoned> smacktalk: ps aux
[18:31] <rek> no quello era saba
[18:31] <NauTiluS1> top
[18:31] <rek> samba
[18:31] <FloridaGuy> is it just me or is virtualbox slow at installing windows xp
[18:31] <messias> olá
[18:31] <messias> alguém online?
[18:31] <mook_> i feel like a blithering idiot but i know if i play with this stuff long enough i'll get it
[18:31] <rek> nannes eccomi
[18:31] <SmithX> test
[18:31] <nannes> appunto rek siccome con samba me la cavo... vieni su #ubuntu-it
[18:31] <^poohPooh> FloridaGuy: must be you only...it works fine for me
[18:31] <messias> hello!
[18:31] <smacktalk> Thank you!
[18:32] <felixsulla> How do I change my systems default text editor from VIM to GVIM?
[18:32] <SmithX> can anyone help explain why ubuntu package management is so convoluted?
[18:32] <^poohPooh> hello: messias ..
[18:32] <messias> help-me?
[18:32] <^poohPooh> set the env variable to vim : felixsulla
[18:32] <grawity> SmithX: Ask #debian.
[18:32] <Chousuke> SmithX: I'm telling you, it's not convoluted :P
[18:32] <mook_> 75
[18:32] <vigo> felixsulla: GUI?
[18:32] <Chousuke> hm :/
[18:32] <shivek> which group owns /var/www ?
[18:32] <mook_> wb
[18:32] <LinuxGold> thx
[18:33] <Chousuke> shivek: www-data or something usually?
[18:33] <Alvinware> any one help me?  why i'm getting this errors, easycam2-gtk: Depends: python2.4-glade2 but it is not installable, Depends: python2.4-gtk2 but it is not installable? Am i using Gnome, the XScript Client?
[18:33] <FloridaGuy> ^poohPooh, just seems to install a little slower then if you were installing xp as a normal system
[18:33] <Chousuke> shivek: that depends on how you've configured it. :P
[18:33] <yoyoned> shivek ls -l /var/www
[18:33] <mook_> linux i feel like a blithering idoit but i know if i play with it long enough i'll get it
[18:33] <^poohPooh> i guess not: FloridaGuy
[18:33] <messias> notebook CCE and sound bronke, what is procedimento?
[18:33] <^poohPooh> yes its www-data: Chousuke
[18:33] <LinuxGold> mook_: you will.
[18:33] <shivek> thank you Chousuke and yoyoned
[18:33] <mook_> ok its at 80\
[18:33] <Ivoz> SmithX: dpkg is a backend which does the actual installing stuff, apt is a frontend 'framework' that works out dependencies and etc, and then you can GUI apps based on apt like synatpic which let you do your updating graphically; this is as far as I understand it
[18:34] <LinuxGold> mook_: we ALL were like you once before.
[18:34] <mook_> i know
[18:34] <FloridaGuy> ^poohPooh, sill xp run slower in vm once installed or should it run normal
[18:34] <SmithX> sorry, got disconnected
[18:34] <Ivoz> SmithX: dpkg is a backend which does the actual installing stuff, apt is a frontend 'framework' that works out dependencies and etc, and then you can GUI apps based on apt like synatpic which let you do your updating graphically; this is as far as I understand it
[18:34] <SmithX> anyways, could anyone help explain why ubuntu package management is the way it is?
[18:35] <Chousuke> SmithX: I'm not sure on the "why"; Someone came up with a good idea and developed it.
[18:35] <grawity> SmithX: Debian developers could.
[18:35] <^poohPooh> for me it takes more or less the same amount of time as compared to a real one: FloridaGuy
[18:35] <vigo> felixsulla: You can use the GUI, System>Main Menu , to do that.
[18:35] <mook_> 92
[18:35] <SmithX> what's the diff between aptitude and synaptic?
[18:35] <grawity> SmithX: After all, Ubuntu is just a .... fork of Debian, you could say.
[18:35] <FloridaGuy> ok
[18:35] <grawity> SmithX: Aptitude is tty-based, Synaptic uses X.
[18:36] <yoyoned> SmithX: only the enterface.  They do the same thing
[18:36] <felixsulla> What about defaults.lst ?
[18:36] <SmithX> oh, I fogot to mention there's dpkg-deb for which dpkg is and yet another frontend to
[18:36] <Ivoz> SmithX: you can use apt from the command line or a GUI based on apt, I think aptitude and synaptic are just different variations on a gui frontend for apt
[18:36] <grawity> SmithX: And don't forget apt-get/apt-cache :)
[18:36] <LinuxGold> aptitude is tool that manages the package, synaptic is GUI based that uses aptitude in background.
[18:36] <mook_> woohoo 98
[18:36] <^poohPooh> what exactly the problem you are facing? FloridaGuy
[18:36] <grawity> SmithX: Seriously, you've been told several times to ask Debian developer.
[18:36] <felixsulla> If I change defauts.lst can I get the changes to take effect without rebooting?
[18:36] <acu> I added a usb hard disk but I cannot write on it - wha should I do ?
[18:36] <^poohPooh> might be permission issue: acu
[18:36] <grawity> LinuxGold: No, bothy Synaptic and Aptitude are equivalent, AFAIK.
[18:37] <grawity> both*
[18:37] <Ivoz> oh right
[18:37] <SmithX> gravity: debian doesn't use apt and others
[18:37] <yoyoned> what file is defauts.lst
[18:37] <Chousuke> SmithX: it's very simple in principle though: you have a package format, a manager for those packages and their dependencies (dpkg). Then you have a host of tools that use the "APT library" to fetch those packages and their dependencies from remote (or local) repositories
 yes its www-data: Chousuke
[18:37] <shivek> <-- R2D21 (n=janne@80.85.115.65) has left #ubuntu ("Lämnar")
[18:37] <Chousuke> SmithX: debian does use apt
[18:37] <mook_> ok linux its asking me of i want kde or  gnome
[18:37] <SmithX> Chousuke: oh, I thought apt was ubuntu exclusive
[18:37] <^poohPooh> mount the usb as a root or add write permission to that using sudo : acu
[18:37] <acu> ^poohPooh, what should I do - tried to change permision of the folder in /home/user/hardsick
[18:37] <FloridaGuy> ^poohPooh, no problem....just installing xp in virtualbox ose just seems slower.....my 1st time useing vm
[18:37] <Chousuke> SmithX: nah. debian had it for years before ubuntu even existed :)
[18:38] <LinuxGold> Synaptic is a graphical package management program for apt.
[18:38] <LinuxGold> FOR apt.
[18:38] <LinuxGold> :)
[18:38] <Sydanta> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 from CD but the partition app doesn't find any partitions on my disk, it considers all space unallocated. What should I do?
[18:38] <shivek> poohpooh | chousuke  : How to configure www-data **?
[18:38] <SmithX> Chousuke: for some reason, i thought i remember reading about debian complaining about how ubuntu packages were splitting off or something
[18:38] <LinuxGold> mook_: make a pick
[18:38] <mook_> ok gold im going with kde
[18:38] <grawity> SmithX: Debian has used apt since I first touched a computer; it had apt before Ubuntu existed; it still has apt.
[18:38] <Ivoz> how can i change what the boot options are called when i boot up my computer?
[18:38] <yoyoned> Sydanta: is it a new disk?
[18:38] <Chousuke> SmithX: ah, well, Ubuntu does modify the packages somewhat.
[18:38] <mook_> ok reading database
[18:38] <grawity> SmithX: You could think of Ubuntu as an user-friendly Debian. They do have their own repos though
[18:38] <Sydanta> yoyoned: No, it's the same I'm using Windows and Debian.
[18:39] <streetparade> #php
[18:39] <SmithX> Chousuke: so is that really the main difference of apt from dpkg? apt interfaces with the repositories?
[18:39] <Chousuke> SmithX: maybe the Debian devs were complaining about ubuntu modifying the packages in ways that made cooperation difficult with debian. but that has little to do with the actual package manager tools.
[18:39] <mook_> just fyi this is kbuntu now
[18:39] <yoyoned> !grub|lvoz
[18:39] <SmithX> Chousuke: that was probably it
[18:40] <LinuxGold> mook_: try this /etc/init.d/kdm start
[18:40] <Chousuke> SmithX: apt uses and depends on dpkg. it provides additional functionality that dpkg alone does not; but it doesn't duplicate what dpkg does.
[18:40] <LinuxGold> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[18:40] <mook_> i will once it finishes
[18:40] <LinuxGold> k
[18:41] <SmithX> Chousuke: I understand. So what does apt offer that dpkg doesn't besides interfacing with the respositories?
[18:41] <vigo> Ivoz: GAB has been known to work with multiboot setups, but GRUB can do it.
[18:41] <yoyoned> SmithX dpkg by itsefl wil not solve dependencies
[18:41] <mook_> this is what i got
[18:41] <mook_> Starting K Display Manager: kdm.
[18:41] <Chousuke> SmithX: hmm, well, APT can automatically verify the package signatures for one.
[18:42] <Chousuke> SmithX: but its main job is dealing with repositories and automatic package upgrades
[18:42] <Mka> when I press <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Backspace> in jaunty, X does not restart. Is this a Jaunty feature or I messed up with my system?
[18:42] <LinuxGold> try alt F7 at same time
[18:42] <SmithX> Chousuke: does dpkg handle dependencies? I've heard differing opinions in this room
[18:42] <mook_> me ?
[18:42] <LinuxGold> mook_: yes
[18:42] <LinuxGold> sorry
[18:42] <linxeh> hi there, has anyone managed to get the imon/soundgraph lcd 15c2:0038 version working with jaunty 64bit? I've been going mad with various guides and getting nowhere. at the moment I just want to get the remote control working (I figure that's easier) then move on to the lcd, but I don't see anything from irw or mode2 using the device
[18:42] <mook_> k
[18:42] <smooth_penguin> hey anyone here running ubuntu on an acer aspire one D250?
[18:42] <yoyoned> Mka: that is ubuntu making desisions fou you.
[18:42] <Stonekeeper> Hi there. Is there _any_ way i can get decent 3D with an ati xpress X1500 chip? I realise ati dropped support but wondered if there is some uber hack to get the last driver working with Jaunty. Thanks!!
[18:42] <Chousuke> SmithX: dpkg does record dependencies (they're part of the deb package format), but it doesn't actually download or install them for you. it just complains if they're not fulfilled.
[18:43] <Chousuke> SmithX: APT then does the difficult part of dependency management so that dpkg is always satisfied.
[18:43] <Mka> yoyoned: is there an alternative?
[18:43] <mook_> nothing
[18:44] <mook_> nothin linuxgold
[18:44] <SmithX> Chousuke: makes sense. so aptitude and synaptic are just gui frontends to apt?
[18:44] <LinuxGold> mook_: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm defaults
[18:44] <LinuxGold> mook_:  after that, try rebooting the machine
[18:44] <yoyoned> Mka: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[18:45] <jchillerup> How come Ubuntu sort of prefers a wifi connection over a HDSPA connection, even if the HDSPA is connected to the internet and the wifi isn't? (in fact, I'm trying to set up ip masquerading between the hdspa and wifi)
[18:45] <mook_> already exists
[18:45] <uuv> Hi. I'm trying to get my Samsung LCD-tv to work with my ubuntu laptop with a dvi-dvi -cable. My laptop shows the samsung 46" TV on preferences->display, but i can't get the TV to recognize my laptop. Anyone wanna give me a hint?
[18:45] <LinuxGold> ok reboot the machine
[18:45] <mook_> ok man brb
[18:45] <SmithX> Do aptitude/synatpic do anything that apt itself doesn't do as far as package management?
[18:45] <Chousuke> SmithX: aptitude is not a GUI fronted; it's an alternatice CLI frontend. synaptic is a GUI frontend.
[18:45] <Mka> yoyoned: thanks
[18:45] <felixsulla> After you add a defaults.list and add a text/plain= to defaults.list, is there a command to make it take effect?
[18:45] <SmithX> Chousuke: Do aptitude/synatpic do anything that apt itself doesn't do as far as package management?
[18:46] <Chousuke> SmithX: some say aptitude is a bit smarter about dependencies than apt-get. but the tools really share a lot of the same code.
[18:46] <Chousuke> SmithX: there's a library for developing apt tools called "libapt" that all the apt tools use as their basis.
[18:46] <SmithX> Chousuke: Oh, so aptitude isn't just simply a front end to apt--it's actually another frontend to dpkg?
[18:47] <scalar> Hey everyone
[18:47] <Chousuke> SmithX: I suppose, yes. but it's also an APT frontend because it uses libapt :)
[18:47] <SmithX> Chousuke: I still say it's confusing, but it makes more sense now
[18:47] <LinuxGold> aptitude - high-level interface to the package manager
[18:47] <LinuxGold> apt - Advanced Package Tool
[18:47] <LinuxGold> synaptic - graphical management of software packages
[18:47] <unop> SmithX, apt uses dpkg - they're not the same thing
[18:47] <azlon> how do i change my gateway IP from the cmd line?
[18:47] <LinuxGold> wb mook_
[18:47] <mook_> ok linux im back
[18:47] <Chousuke> SmithX: when people say "apt" they usually mean apt-get and other tools
[18:47] <mook_> ty ty
[18:48] <unop> azlon, sudo route add -net default gw $IP_ADDRESS
[18:48] <LinuxGold> mook_: any luck?
[18:48] <diddy> I want to copy old VHS tapes to my computer. I just found an old Pinnacle TV card in my drawer. What program can I use to copy the videos to disk?
[18:48] <mook_> yeah everything is diffrent now but you know whare im at so...
[18:48] <SmithX> Chousuke: It's also confusing because each tool has several subtools, each with huge manpages. apt-get, apt-file, dpkg-query, etc etc.
[18:48] <Chousuke> SmithX: but APT in reality refers to a library of tools for handling dependencies and repositories, and both apt-get and aptitude are APT frontends
[18:48] <SmithX> Chousuke: you need a ph.d in ubuntu packagement!
[18:48] <azlon> unop, it says gw: Unknown host
[18:48] <LinuxGold> mook_: what are you in now?
[18:48] <SmithX> package management*
[18:48] <grawity> SmithX: DEBIAN, I repeat.
[18:48] <SmithX> gravity: ah, sorry, right--debian
[18:49]  * LinuxGold wishes this debate would stop.
[18:49] <mook_> still no listing for that ati driver sadly
[18:49] <azlon> unop, hold on... do i type $IP_ADDRESS or do i type the ip address i want to put in there?
[18:49] <LinuxGold> go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:49] <Chousuke> SmithX: package management *is* a complex problem :)
[18:49] <mook_> im not in anything just chat and kbuntu
[18:49] <LinuxGold> mook_: what do you mean, you are not in X yet?
[18:49] <unop> azlon, you substitute your IP address there - off course
[18:49] <vigo> diddy: Many of those things can be founds at fsfdirectory.org
[18:49] <Chousuke> SmithX: but most of the time you really only need to concern yourself with one of the apt tools
[18:49] <SmithX> I'm used to Arch Linux, which just has pacman, but I never did anything too advanced
[18:49] <LinuxGold> mook_: the debate part was directed to those arguing about apt, dpkg, etc
[18:49] <unop> azlon, or rather, the IP address of your gateway
[18:49] <Chousuke> SmithX: I think I've used dpkg manually about five times :P
[18:50] <mook_> oh ok
[18:50] <azlon> unop, ok, thats what i thought... i put my ip address in there and it says "gw: unknown host"
[18:50] <azlon> unop, i am running Ubuntu server if that makes a difference... but i dont think it does
[18:50] <diddy> vigo: That site doesn't load.
[18:50] <vigo> diddy: Look them up at FSFDirectory, then see if there is a corresponding pkg in the repos
[18:50] <LinuxGold> mook_: don't tell me details, is there anything coming out of this command:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:50] <unop> azlon, try.   sudo route add default gw $IP_ADDRESS
[18:50] <Chousuke> LinuxGold: there's really no argument. SmithX is asking good questions and I'm trying to answer.
[18:50] <vigo> diddy: one moment
[18:51] <unop> azlon, btw - this is all documented in the route manpage
[18:51] <mook_> yes
[18:51] <SmithX> LinuxGold: yes, I'm not debating--just trying to understand the differences b/w the tools
[18:51] <azlon> unop, is that man route?
[18:51] <unop> azlon, right
[18:51] <LinuxGold> SmithX, Chousuke my apologies.
[18:51] <MOUD> Can I install ubuntu 9.04 64bit on an old Pentium4 2.4GHz? (32-bit only)
[18:51] <Stonekeeper> anyone got any idea if it's possible to use the last legacy ati driver on jaunty?
[18:52] <vigo> diddy: here is a link: http://directory.fsf.org/
[18:52] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[18:52] <LinuxGold> mook_: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup.mook
[18:52] <leaf-sheep> MOUD: You can try but in the conclusion, you won't be able to. :<
[18:52] <LinuxGold> mook_: sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:52] <azlon> unop, does it say how to set the DNS as well?
[18:52] <Slart> MOUD: nope.. 64bit ubuntu needs a 64bit processor
[18:52] <LinuxGold> mook_: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[18:52] <RPG_Master> Would it be bad to stop gparted in the middle of moving a partition to the right of disk?
[18:52] <unop> azlon, no, you set DNS servers in the /etc/resolv.conf file
[18:52] <SmithX> Chousuke: so, what is the most widely used package management tool? apt-, aptitude, synaptic?
[18:52] <RPG_Master> *the
[18:52] <Slart> RPG_Master: probably
[18:52] <EvaLuaTe> i'm looking for a 'light' music player for ubuntu, something like winamp (i know of xmms, but i can't get it to work...)
[18:52] <MOUD> :( I really don't want to Download a 700MB file. -.-
[18:52] <Luke-Jr> ifdown: interface veth0 not configured
[18:53] <grawity> SmithX: apt-* is probably the most widely used one.
[18:53] <Slart> EvaLuaTe: try audacious
[18:53] <mook_> ok that just took me to prompted after i put in password
[18:53] <Luke-Jr> veth0 *is* configured... :/
[18:53] <Slart> !winamp
[18:53] <Chousuke> SmithX: apt-* probably, but you should just use the one you like best.
[18:53] <Slart> !info audacious | EvaLuaTe
[18:53] <azlon> how do i edit a file from command line? emacs or something like that
[18:53] <grawity> azlon: The simplest editor is 'nano
[18:53] <Slart> azlon: pico, nano, vi, emacs... lots of options
[18:53] <unop> azlon, nano is probably the easies to use - but yea, emacs works
[18:53] <Slart> !editors | azlon
[18:53] <SmithX> Chousuke, gravity: is apt used because of a simple command interface, or because it does a better job?
[18:53] <EvaLuaTe> Slart: thanks, i'll have a look at those...
[18:54] <MOUD> does Clamav remove Windows viruses?
[18:54] <grawity> SmithX: Because it's the simplest one.
[18:54] <Chousuke> SmithX: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html
[18:54] <Slart> MOUD: I don't think so, no.. detect and quarantine/delete I think
[18:54] <Chousuke> SmithX: debian actually used to have a more complex frontend to dpkg prior to apt, called dselect.
[18:54] <grawity> SmithX: Synaptic is a GUI app. Aptitude uses a ncurses interface. And apt -- apt-get install packagename, done.
[18:54] <RPG_Master> Slart: What about right before it moves on to the next step? (like after it finishes moving it all to the right its going to add 6gigs to the partition)
[18:54] <azlon> awesome! got my internet connection on my server now!
[18:54] <km_> kjhkjhjk
[18:54] <Chousuke> SmithX: but fortunately it's gone nowadays
[18:55] <SmithX> Chousuke: oh yeah! dselect was the other one I was reading about earlier
[18:55] <thebishop> i'm looking for a sleek, light, 12-14" laptop that is fully supported by Ubuntu (suspend, resume, webcam, audio, etc).  Any recommendations?
[18:55] <LinuxGold> mook_: any luck?
[18:55] <azlon> no i need to get the gui like on a client system... sudo apt-get install... gui?
[18:55] <uuv> Hi. I've got a Sony Vaio VGN-Z11XN laptop with a NVIDIA 9300M GS video card. Administration-hardware drivers tell me to enable drivers, but when i did this before compiz stopped working and ubuntu started in low resolution mode. How could i get these drivers to work (so i could run games and configure a TV to work)?
[18:55] <Slart> RPG_Master: I wouldn't kill gparted before it's finished.. if there is a cancel button that might be a little bit safer.. but I would be careful about using that too
[18:55] <mook_> gold it took me to prompt after i put pass word in
[18:55] <diddy> vigo, thx but I would need a tutorial as well.
[18:55] <LinuxGold> mook_: it means that it is successful
[18:56] <RPG_Master> Slart: yeah I was referring to the cancel button...
[18:56] <spO> have any of you sucessfully installed ati/fglrx on a custom kernel? I made kernel 2.6.30-4 , but it does not seem to work on that system. I tried to "activate" it through device manager, but it didn't want to go
[18:56] <mook_> ok but do i still need the ati driver ?
[18:56] <MOUD> Slart: but does it really find viruses on it?
[18:56] <LinuxGold> mook_: don't worry about the ATI driver for now.
[18:56] <Slart> MOUD: yes... it finds windows viruses
[18:56] <vigo> diddy: Find the package that you feel is best, then search for it in Synaptic, docs are usually in with the packages.
[18:56] <SmithX> Chousuke: what's the apt- command to upgrade the whole system?
[18:56] <LinuxGold> are you in X right now?
[18:57] <SmithX> I know in pacman it was pacman -Syu
[18:57] <shay27> this is the link to my website : http://82.81.49.7/webexperts/ and this is the tool i used to check : http://validator.w3.org/
[18:57] <MOUD> Slart: thanks
[18:57] <LinuxGold> mook_: Remember I jumped in middle
[18:57] <mook_> i guese so
[18:57] <peppote> hm. my XF86AudioLower/RaiseVolume bindings have stopped having any effect on volume. notification shows change, but the mixer isn't moved. pulseaudio 0.9.14 on jaunty.
[18:57] <Chousuke> SmithX: apt-get full-upgrade nowadays I think
[18:57] <grawity> SmithX: Probably apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:57] <Chousuke> SmithX: or just apt-get upgrade
[18:57] <marksman_> If I have multiple network cards, is there a way to restrict one connection to only local traffic?
[18:57] <LinuxGold> mook_: can you see drop down menu and all that?
[18:57] <mook_> gold im going to asume i am
[18:57] <SmithX> Chousuke, gravity: thanks. I think I've run out of apt questions. I'll read the webpage Chousuke gave me
[18:58] <azlon> how do i install the desktop gui?
[18:58] <azlon> !gui
[18:58] <bullgard> Where can I find a definition for "provides" in dpkg? As used for example in http://vmlinux.org/cgi-bin/dwww?type=runman&location=dpkg-gencontrol/1
[18:58] <mook_> yes but it apears im still in a terminal nothing specail about this window yet \
[18:58] <Chousuke> SmithX: it explains the same stuff a bit more in depth. :)
[18:58] <Slart> marksman_: there's very little you can
[18:58] <Slart> marksman_: there's very little you can't do.. how do it is another question =)
[18:58] <LinuxGold> mook_: like DOS without GUI stuff right?
[18:58] <leaf-sheep> azlon: [k;x]ubuntu-desktop
[18:58] <azlon> so if i do sudo apt-get install gnome it will install the desktop gui?
[18:58] <azlon> oh
[18:58] <LinuxGold> apt-get install xubuntu
[18:59] <marksman_> Slart: what about some sort of firewall rules?
[18:59] <Slart> marksman_: I would look into iptables.. or you could perhaps do something with the routing tables
[18:59] <uuv> Hi. I've got a Sony Vaio VGN-Z11XN laptop with a NVIDIA 9300M GS video card. Administration-hardware drivers tell me to enable drivers, but when i did this before compiz stopped working and ubuntu started in low resolution mode. How could i get these drivers to work (so i could run games and configure a TV to work)?
[18:59] <mook_> no its got the gui bit just like a terminal you know copy paste that crap
[18:59] <marksman_> Slart: any id3ea on where to start?  I haven't used iptables much (read at all)
[19:00] <LinuxGold> mook_: gimp and see if gimp shows up
[19:00] <FloridaGuy> when runing windows xp in virtualbox ose...i go into full screen mode...but xp is still a small window in the midle of the screen..is there away around that?
[19:00] <LinuxGold> command: gimp
[19:00] <Slart> marksman_: I would start with the routing table.. try running "route" in a terminal.. it should show you the current settings
[19:00] <mook_> it popped up loadin now
[19:00] <LinuxGold> mook_: ok you are in X alright, what's the problem?
[19:00] <azlon> whoa
[19:01] <azlon> ubuntu-desktop is the full ubuntu system isnt it?
[19:01] <SmithX> Chousuke: is there an apt command to find/remove all dangling dependencies?
[19:01] <azlon> i already installed ubuntu server, now i just want the gui... is that ubuntu-desktop?
[19:02] <biovore> azlon: ubuntu-desktop is the complete gnome-desktop enviroment..
[19:02] <K-Zodron> guys, I have an Xpress 200 IGP radeon and only the open source drivers are an option, but the performance really blows in even the simplest 3D games like tux racer, desktop effects and shizzle work perfectly, any ideas anyone?
[19:02] <LinuxGold> ubuntu-desktop is the GUI front end
[19:02] <mook_> um im a noob trying to figure out  wine i need the driver so i can install games on  her pc she has a diffrent  video card that the problem but i might need the driver not sure if its gonna run under wine or not
[19:02] <Chousuke> SmithX: I think aptitude can do that but I'm not sure of the exact command
[19:02] <azlon> can i just install gnome-desktop?
[19:04] <NemesisD> anyone in here know about autossh? i'm trying to figure out how to deal with the -M argument for a monitoring port. i am attempting to create a reverse ssh tunnel, does the port I specify with -M have to be forwarded on both ends?
[19:04] <LinuxGold> mook_: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup.mook /etc/X11/xorg.conf && /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[19:04] <Guest40366> i can't enable my Yahoo! account, it says 'error number 1013'
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the command to update 8.04 to the next distribution?
[19:04] <biovore> azlon: I don;t there there is a gnome-desktop package..  The complete desktop is called ubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <biovore> !apt-upgrade
[19:04] <RPG_Master> I would also like to know, does moving a 140gig partition to the left really stress my hard drive?
[19:04] <azlon> hrmm
[19:04] <LinuxGold> mook_: wine-related issues is pretty complicated for a newbies.
[19:05] <Guest40366> i can't enable my Yahoo! account, it says 'error number 1013'
[19:05] <Guest40366> how to enable?
[19:05] <azlon> can i put in my ubuntu 9.04 x68 desktop cd and install on server x64? im guessing no
[19:05] <LinuxGold> Guest40366: you are in #ubuntu, not yahoo
[19:05] <biovore> Pirate_Hunter: you can update the sources.list file in /etc/apt/sources.list to the new release and do a dist-upgrade..
[19:05] <Guest40366> i use yahoo sometimes
[19:05] <azlon> or is it already on the ubuntu server cd?
[19:06] <grawity> RPG_Master: What sterss, it's just moving 140 GB across the drive. That means nothing to todays drives.
[19:06] <grawity> LinuxGold: I think he has problems with Yahoo on Pidgin.
[19:06] <Pirate_Hunter> biovore, just saw notes on that its not advisable
[19:06] <biovore> azlon: need internet to download packages.. Server ISO is fairly sparse.
[19:06] <LinuxGold> azlon: gui is an added security risk to ubuntu-server, you add desktop on your own.
[19:06] <grawity> Guest40366: Go to pidgin.im and install the newest Pirgin version from there.
[19:06] <Guest40366> k
[19:06] <LinuxGold> grawity: ah
[19:07] <mook_> still working gold
[19:07] <biovore> Pirate_Hunter: Worked here..  Thats all I can say.. If the say is not advisable for beginners.. then so be it..
[19:07] <SmithX> does anyone know the easiest way to customize a liveusb install?
[19:07] <SmithX> every time I google, the instructions always look really lengthy
[19:07] <basajaun> why are the latest LXDE files  not available in jaunty repos?
[19:07] <scalar> pidgin can updated to the newest version from the settings, can't it?
[19:08] <mook_> ok its done
[19:08] <SmithX> all I want to do is modify some config files on my liveusb.
[19:08] <azlon> LinuxGold, i want to set up two raids and thought server would be better for that... would Desktop work just as well?
[19:08] <biovore> SmithX: Its very lengthy and complicated..   I just do a install of ubuntu onto a memory stick.. might be simpler.
[19:08] <RPG_Master> grawity: I thought I read that hard drives can only write so many times before they start to fail... or maybe that SDDs....
[19:08] <grawity> RPG_Master: Hard drives are very reliable.
[19:08] <grawity> RPG_Master: At least magnetic ones.
[19:09] <SmithX> biovore: shouldn't there be some way to open up the live cd image, modify a file, and close it back up?
[19:09] <RPG_Master> grawity: Well now I feel better :)
[19:09] <LinuxGold> azlon: I suggest that you learn how linux works first before you try GUI stuff
[19:09] <biovore> azlon: yes.. there the same stuff..  one just has a gui and the other dosn't.   Both have the same packages and source codes base.
[19:09] <mook_> im gonna look for the driver
[19:09] <grawity> RPG_Master: Flash-based devices -- USB pendrives, SSD drives -- do have a maximum limit of writes per sector. BUT this limit is again very high.
[19:09] <grawity> RPG_Master: And even _then_, if it was a SSD, you are _not_ writing the 140 gigs to the _same_ sector -- you are writing them each to their own.
[19:10] <coz_> hey guys  for some reason my when I log in  firefox keeps opening up as if the session was saved  but it doesnt seem to be  ...anyone having this issue?
[19:10] <biovore> SmithX: there is.    But working with the ISO installer/live CD is a pain in the butt.
[19:10] <grawity> RPG_Master: So even if it was a SSD, the overall write count would only decrease by a few -- not any more as if you just copied a few huge videos to it.
[19:10] <LinuxGold> is there any general electronic circuit schematic for SSD in general on line?
[19:10] <grawity> RPG_Master: And magnetic HDs are too reliable to worry.
[19:10] <azlon> biovore, ok, desktop it is...
[19:11] <RPG_Master> grawity:  Thanks for sharing your knowledge :)
[19:11] <SmithX> biovore: the problem is that I don't have a reguler ubuntu installation. All I have it the liveusb, which I created from a livecd
[19:11] <mook_> ok gold now i know im in x
[19:11] <n2diy> I added an alias to .bashrc, is there a way to re-read .bashrc without having to log out?
[19:11] <grawity> n2diy: Run 'source ~/.bashrc'
[19:12] <biovore> SmithX: there is a file on the ISO called something like filesystem.squashfs  you need to loop mount that file, change it..  and re-build the ISO if you want a live cd bootable thing.
[19:12] <nocleader> n2diy type "bash"
[19:12] <SmithX> biovore: what I think I'm going to biovore: is it possible to do that while using the liveusb at the same time?
[19:12] <nocleader> ... that too
[19:12] <grawity> nocleader: That will spawn _another_ instance of bash, instead of just making the existing one reload bashrc.
[19:13] <n2diy> gravity, nocleader, thanks, that was easy enough.
[19:13] <nocleader> grawity: first thing that came to mind:) .. I knew about the other; but I'd have had to google it:)
[19:13] <biovore> SmithX: nope..   I think the fastest method ot have a USB bootable ubuntu system is to do an install to the USB flash drive.. Then most machine can just boot off the USB drive and the root drive.
[19:14] <biovore> (As the root drive)
[19:14] <SmithX> biovore: well, there is a tool called remastersys that I was looking at, but even that is more than I wanted since I just want to change one file
[19:15] <biovore> SmithX: what the 1 file you want to change?
[19:16] <SmithX> biovore: I want to add my vimrc
[19:16] <biovore> SmithX: the root filesystem for the live image is a disk image call filesystem.squashfs under the casper-folder on the liveCD.
[19:17] <NemesisD> anyone? autossh?
[19:17] <pylunis> argh! i installed the UNR on my lappy (Jaunty desktop) but when I use the switcher to switch to UNR mode, my panels disappear until I click on 'em...then they turn black and buggy
[19:17] <biovore> SmithX: you will need to have a running linux box, and loop mount the filesystem image to a directory.
[19:17] <biovore> NemesisD: autossh?  you talking RSA passwordless keys?
[19:17] <SmithX> biovore: I can do that
[19:18] <pylunis> it's almost like UNR mode is trying to use compositing but can't...i have effects running on medium in Gnome mode just fine
[19:18] <biovore> SmithX: yeah.. so all you should have to do is modify the filesystem.squashfs image.  and it should stick..
[19:18] <Dacvak> Uh, I have a really weird problem. In firefox, some of the pictures loaded on the site have the hue changed to be blueish...
[19:18] <zyk> how do i change the background color of gnome terminal to black?
[19:18] <Dacvak> I don't really know how to explain it.
[19:19] <SmithX> biovore: so anything I change while loop mounted is permanent after unmounting?
[19:19] <biovore> zyk: Its under preferances..  color-schemes..   Un-check use system color scheme.
[19:19] <peppo> my xf86audioraise/lowervolume keys have stopped having any effect. they show notification but do not affect volume and nothing is changing in alsamixer/gnome mixer. pulseaudio 0.9.14, jaunty...
[19:19] <biovore> SmithX: should be.. assuming the filesystem image, A has free space and B, is read-writable.
[19:19] <Dacvak> Like, I don't know if this will show up weird for you, but this is how my pictures are loading: http://imgur.com/BgigH
[19:20] <Dacvak> Can someone help? It's really strange. I don't know what could have caused it.
[19:20] <zyk> biovore : i don't see color-schemes under preferences
[19:20] <pylunis> zyk: Edit->Profile Preferenced->Colors tab
[19:20] <NemesisD> disregard i think i fixed it
[19:20] <padi999> hi
[19:21] <padi999> I have this rule in my .procmailrc : http://pastebin.com/m74296773 It works well but it still delivers the message afterwards. That is: just a body-less message. Actually this could be deleted. How can I do that?
[19:21] <biovore> Dacvak: Not sure whats going on with that,  just intressed in what video drive your running..  Could be a bug..
[19:22] <LinuxGold> 24 256 GB SSD into raid -- hmm... interesting and useless
[19:22] <zyk> pylunis : cool got it thanks
[19:22] <Dacvak> biovore: Yeah, I have no idea why that would do that.
[19:23] <biovore> Dacvak: is it on flash video or just on jpg, pngs, gifs, tiffs etc..
[19:24] <SmithX> sorry, got disconnected
[19:24] <biovore> SmithX: np
[19:25] <SmithX> biovore: that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! I don't know why all the guides online are so complicated
[19:25] <biovore> SmithX: I only know because I been messing with it my self..
[19:25] <peppo> my xf86audioraise/lowervolume keys have stopped having any effect. they show notification but do not affect volume and nothing is changing in alsamixer/gnome mixer. pulseaudio 0.9.14, jaunty, gnome 2.26.1...gnome-settings-daemon shows up as a Client in "paman" when using xf86audioraisevolume key, but doesn't affect audio..
[19:26] <marcelo_> I am trying to kill a process with kill pid Why it is not being killed?
[19:26] <biovore> marcelo_: try kill -9 <pid>
[19:26] <pylunis> marcelo_: could be any number of reasons... use kill -9 <pid>
[19:26] <pylunis> biovore: you bastage :P
[19:26] <basajaun> LXDE PPA DOES UPDATE TO lxde LATEST FILES WHY?
[19:27] <Dacvak> biovore: It seems like it's just on literally random jpegs
[19:27] <Dacvak> Like, some work, some just don't.
[19:27] <Dacvak> I'm trying to isolate the problem.
[19:27] <basajaun> sorry about caps
[19:27] <anr78> Berzerker: didn't you tell me something about write support to an osx partition from Ubuntu the other day? do l need to disable journaling in osx for Ubuntu to get write support?
[19:27] <biovore> Dacvak: Yeah, tring to figure out whats triggering it will be usefull for the bug squashers to help the find where it might be in the millions of line of code.
[19:28] <Dacvak> It's insanely weird.
[19:28] <Dacvak> Anyway, I'm on a laptop and have a Radeon 3200
[19:28] <biovore> Dacvak: this firefox 3.5 ?
[19:28] <diips> quit
[19:29] <biovore> try /quit
[19:29] <arand_> does the livecd use swap if it finds it on the computer?
[19:29] <nsahoo> I want to create a restricted shell, but, rbash is not restricted enough. I want to not allow any program to create or delete any file outside currect directory. Can I do it?
[19:29] <Dacvak> Yeah, it's Firefox 3.5
[19:30] <Dacvak> "Shiretoko"
[19:30] <biovore> arand: I am not sure.  I don't think it does automatically.  You can tell it to once your booted up using the swapon </dev/device>
[19:30] <arand> biovore: ok, thanks.
[19:31] <grawity> nsahoo: That is something outside the capabilities of a shell. You might manage to do something like that with chroot, or AppArmor, but generally this isn't an easy thing to do. Why do you want to do t his, anyway?
[19:31] <grawity> nsahoo: Normal Linux file permissions restrict writing to homedir and /tmp, anyway.
[19:31] <nsahoo> grawity: trying to run a program that is possibly rouge
[19:31] <grawity> nsahoo: Writing an AppArmor profile might help.
[19:32] <nsahoo> grawity: so, I should create another user and run it as that?
[19:32] <grawity> nsahoo: Yes, another user would be the easiest way to do it. (You could even try using the existing one -- 'nobody')
[19:33] <nsahoo> grawity: didn't know of nobody, does it have a random password or something? why is this user there? for temporary user needs?
[19:34] <grawity> nsahoo: It doesn't have any password. It is mostly designed for daemons. (Though most of them get their own accounts nowadays.)
[19:35] <mCx> :LIST
[19:35] <grawity> nsahoo: You might try 'sudo -u nobody -i' to get a shell running as 'nobody'.
[19:35] <LinuxGold> brb -- errand calls.
[19:35] <grawity> banshee --next
[19:35] <grawity> err, wrong window
[19:36] <bhaskar_> any good dvd burner for ubuntu 9.04
[19:36] <bhaskar_> HELP
[19:37] <biovore> !ask
[19:37] <nsahoo> grawity: thanks, that worked out very well. I was probably being too careful.
[19:37] <azlon> is there any way to get the update files from another machine? for example, i have 4 ubuntu machines but i dont want to download the updates 4 times. can i have just 1 machine download them then have the others get the updates from that one?
[19:37] <biovore> bhaskar_: basero or k3b are my faviorites
[19:38] <grawity> azlon: Apt stores its package cache in /var/cache/apt/archives/ -- so just copy that.
[19:38] <azlon> ok, cool
[19:38] <biovore> ^ yes
[19:38] <grawity> azlon: There are things such as apt-proxy, too, but this is the simplest method.
[19:39] <megra> azlon, the easest way is to use apt-proxy
[19:39] <russell__> I set up u dual boot Win XP and Ubuntu however I'd like to use the internet on both operating systems. Is this possible? As of now only Ubuntu has a connection.
[19:39] <grawity> russell__: It is.
[19:39] <grawity> !ics | russell__
[19:39] <biovore> azlon: I just setup my own provate mirror here..
[19:39] <russell__> thank you
[19:39] <azlon> ok
[19:40] <azlon> i have never tried to view a folder on another ubuntu machine over a network
[19:40] <Besogon> Tell me please if ubuntu is needed swap partition? My swap is emptly everytime
[19:40] <azlon> i brought up Network, but only see my Windows machines... how can i connect to another ubuntu machine?
[19:40] <bhaskar_> any program like turbo 4.5 inlinux
[19:40] <heterosankari> Usually it does not need swap, but sometimes yes.
[19:40] <rikkardo> Hi!
[19:40] <bhaskar_> or borland
[19:40] <grawity> azlon: The other Ubuntu machines need to have Samba installed.
[19:41] <grawity> bhaskar_: gcc, the C compiler.
[19:41] <grawity> Besogon: How do you know it's always empty?
[19:41] <heterosankari> Besogon: when you run out of RAM, your machine will use swap.
[19:41] <aqrogE> Hi, please advise how best to divide the hard disk (320Gb) to install and how to choose the file system ext3 or ext4
[19:41] <bhaskar_> gravity: are i have to install or they are already installed
[19:41] <pylunis> whose stupid idea was it to not make UNR it's own session? :/
[19:42] <DWonderly> is there  a channel for the UNR?
[19:42] <pylunis> DWonderly: good question
[19:42] <diddy> How can I find out whether Ubuntu recognized my TV card or not? I just installed it.
[19:42] <biovore> pylunis: its gnome.. with a pluggin.. so its the same window manager..
[19:42] <grawity> bhaskar_: gcc already comes with Ubuntu - but you may need to install some additional libraries... for beginners, what comes with Ubuntu is enough.
[19:42] <__theIdiotBox> whats that? DWonderly
[19:42] <n2diy> diddy: sudo lshw
[19:43] <pylunis> biovore: regardless, it should still be it's own session
[19:43] <aqrogE> can anyone help me ?
[19:43] <DWonderly> __theTdiotBox: It's the Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[19:43] <__theIdiotBox> i guess thats more than enough: grawity
[19:43] <biovore> aqrogE: I would just do the guided method and put everything on 1 partition with a swap of about 2 GB.
[19:43] <bhaskar_> gravity one more question what i have to do for matlab as i am electronics student
[19:43] <__theIdiotBox> google dint help you? : DWonderly
[19:43] <biovore> bhaskar_: I have it working here :-)
[19:44] <__theIdiotBox> get octave: bhaskar_
[19:44] <biovore> octave doesn't do everything EE need.
[19:44] <Besogon> grawity: heterosankari: When I open gnome-system-monitor I see that swap is emptly
[19:44] <bhaskar_> do they work like matlav
[19:44] <__theIdiotBox> pretty much everything
[19:44] <DWonderly> __theIdoitbox: It's so I can help others with UNR problems... I have had NO problems with URN at all... just looking forward to what it is goign to look like in 9.10
[19:44] <biovore> bhaskar_: all the basic stuff is there..  if you are doing control stuff and filter design.. you need matlab.
[19:45] <nine1six> #remote-exploit
[19:45] <__theIdiotBox> okey, fine: DWonderly
[19:45] <phillipblack> I did it!
[19:45] <Qvintvs> gnome-terminal's giving me some issues with unicode support... the character encoding is set to unicode, but non-breaking spaces display as '?'. a friend using urxvt did the same thing to get a non-breaking space, and his actually displayed. anyone know what's up with that?
[19:45] <phillipblack> I joined a IRC chat!
[19:45] <bhaskar_> cant i couid install matlab using wine
[19:45] <grawity> phillipblack: Welcome to the Freenode IRC network, then :)
[19:45] <__theIdiotBox> i guess not: bhaskar_
[19:45] <biovore> bhaskar_: they have a unix version of linux and linux-64
[19:46] <phillipblack> I just had a quick question about Linux
[19:46] <biovore> !ask
[19:46] <pelmen> biovore: you blew my mind
[19:46] <__theIdiotBox> welcome to #ubuntu IRC: phillipblack
[19:46] <bhaskar_> thanx for the kind information
[19:46] <__theIdiotBox> ask right away: phillipblack
[19:46] <grawity> __theIdiotBox: Usually you put the nick _before_ the message.
[19:46] <phillipblack> I was I was looking for a wireless adapter I could get for a linux desktop
[19:47] <phillipblack> Looking to try boxee on an old PC
[19:47] <biovore> phillipblack: install anything usually works if you want abg access..
[19:47] <n2diy> ! hardware | phillipblack
[19:47] <phillipblack> I have Wireless G?
[19:47] <diddy> n2diy, http://pastebin.ca/1530732 I am not sure. Is my pinnacle card in there?
[19:47] <__theIdiotBox> grawity: its __usually__ not always...as long as you communicate to the concerned person and the message is not that big, right?
[19:48] <azlon> ok, i am able to view another machine on my network... what folder am i seeing by default? the home folder?
[19:48] <n2diy> diddy: let me take a look.
[19:48] <biovore> __theIdiotBox: most IRC clients trigger if you messages starts with the nick..
[19:48] <rikkardo> I installed some script for nautilus, but I can see the list of script only If I run nautilus as root, It's ok? I think I wrong something during installatiion of script...
[19:48] <grawity> azlon: With SMB, you see what the other computer is sharing. That may be any folders.
[19:48] <__theIdiotBox> biovore: now its okey???
[19:48] <bhaskar_> Where will i find gcc compiler
[19:49] <azlon> hrmm
[19:49] <biovore> yup..
[19:49] <grawity> bhaskar_: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal.
[19:49] <__theIdiotBox> biovore, thanks for reminding me
[19:49] <biovore> if they start with my nick..  the line gets a highlight so I don't miss it..
[19:49] <azlon> grawity, how do i change the shared folders? like add some or something
[19:50] <bhaskar_> i thought it as command prompt
[19:50] <__theIdiotBox> biovore, yes you're right....absolutely
[19:50] <phillipblack> Thanks for the help I think I'm going to pick up a Belkin Wireless USB adapter. Does anyone know where I could pick up a cheap VGA cable ?
[19:50] <GeeLo> I have Ubuntu desktop version 9.04 , I have no problems connecting to my old happy WEP "b" router, but for some reason I can not connect to my WPA "G" Router.. Does Ubuntu support  WPA2-PSK AES ?
[19:50] <grawity> GeeLo: Yes
[19:50] <__theIdiotBox> GeeLo: yes it does
[19:50] <grawity> azlon: There are two ways. The system-wide shares can be modified using system-config-samba (or editing /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[19:50] <biovore> GeeLo: It does..  I am using it right now..
[19:50] <GeeLo> Thank You.. Hmm.. I'll have to try it again..
[19:51] <azlon> awesome, thanks
[19:51] <grawity> azlon: And users (in GNOME, at least) can create shares right in Nautilus, there's a context-menu option.
[19:51] <GeeLo> Thanks Guys.. using 9.04 on a USB Thumb drive is great!
[19:51] <grawity> azlon: I would suggest sticking with system-config-samba though, as it creates less confusion.
[19:51] <__theIdiotBox> GeeLo: thats the power of linux!!!
[19:52] <rikkardo> Somebody can help me? I installed some script for nautilus, but I can see the list of script only If I run nautilus as root, It's ok? I think I wrong something during installatiion of script...
[19:52] <n2diy> diddy: I see a nvidia  G7600?
[19:52] <Besogon> My swap is free. I could check it with "free" command. Why is it?
[19:52] <diddy> n2diy, that is my video card.
[19:52] <GeeLo> That it is..  Thank You, Have a great weekend.. Thank You.
[19:52] <__theIdiotBox> Besogon: you sys does need to use swap
[19:52] <diddy> I have a pinnacle tv card in there also. Just installed it.
[19:52] <grawity> Besogon: Because the system has not needed it yet. How much RAM do you have?
[19:52] <diddy> n2I have a pinnacle tv card in there also. Just installed it.
[19:53] <biovore> Besogon: probably because your not using at of ram..
[19:53] <diddy> n2diy, I have a pinnacle tv card in there also. Just installed it.
[19:53] <__theIdiotBox> Besogon: you might be having enough memory/RAM
[19:53] <n2diy> diddy: do you have a make and model for the pinnacle?
[19:54] <Besogon> My RAM is about 1G. So do we need swap at all?
[19:54] <gwildor> Besogon, for hibernate and suspend, yes
[19:54] <rikkardo> Somebody can help me? I installed some script for nautilus, but I can see the list of script only If I run nautilus as root, It's ok? I think I wrong something during installatiion of script...
[19:54] <diddy> n2diy, unfortunately not. I thought I could find it out via some command. I didn't use the TV card for a long time and threw the box away. I don't recall what model it is.
[19:55] <grawity> gwildor: Suspend does not use swap.
[19:55] <biovore> grawity: nope
[19:55] <rikkardo> Nobody can help me
[19:55] <rikkardo> ?
[19:56] <spO> does samba password have to match system password?
[19:56] <peppo> my xf86audioraise/lowervolume keys have stopped having any effect. they show notification but do not affect volume and nothing is changing in alsamixer/gnome mixer. pulseaudio 0.9.14, jaunty, gnome 2.26.1...gnome-settings-daemon shows up as a Client in "paman" when using xf86audioraisevolume key, but doesn't affect audio..
[19:56]  * zaggynl douses rikkardo 
[19:56] <n2diy> diddy: ok, I didn't see anything about pinnacle, but it could be listed by make and model? You can get that off the card from the FCC ID#, and google.
[19:56] <gwildor> grawity, yeah, realized that i didnt even mean to type it...till after i posted it, thanks for clarifying for me
[19:56] <grawity> spO: Not necessarily.
[19:56] <biovore> rikkardo: what was the question?
[19:56] <rikkardo> I installed some script for nautilus, but I can see the list of script only If I run nautilus as root, It's ok? I think I wrong something during installatiion of script...
[19:56] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[19:56] <diddy> n2diy, I will have a look. Thx for your help.
[19:57] <n2diy> diddy: GL
[19:57] <biovore> rikkardo: did the script end up in ~/Nautilus/scripts ?
[19:57] <biovore> where ~ is your homedirectory
[19:58] <Aardwolf> Hi. I have a USB device called "USB Digital Stere Sound Box". It's basically a USB cable with an external sound card on it. Monday I'd like to use it on a computer with Ubuntu on it. Will it work?
[19:58] <grawity> Isn't it ~/.nautilus/scripts ?
[19:58] <bhaskar_> biovre: u was telling me unix version of matlab.Will it work in jaunty
[19:58] <rikkardo> I installed scripts in /root/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[19:58] <Aardwolf> *stereo, not stere
[19:59] <biovore> rikkardo: that would explain it..
[19:59] <azlon> what is the file manager called? nautalus?
[19:59] <azlon> ugh
[19:59] <grawity> azlon: Nautilus, if you meean the GNOME manager.
[19:59] <azlon> how do i navigate to a samba folder?
[19:59] <biovore> rikkardo: try instead of root.. try /home/<username>/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[19:59] <biovore> azlon: smb://<machine/<share>
[19:59] <grawity> azlon: Depending on what samba folder you mean, it is either /etc/samba or smb://machinename/
[19:59] <rikkardo> I have to reinstalled there?
[20:00] <biovore> rikkardo: yes.. its installed only for root.
[20:00] <azlon> grawity, i keep getting an error
[20:00] <Shard_> Does Ubuntu crash if AHCI mode is enabled post-install, like Windows does? My DVD drive won't boot from Linux CDs when AHCI is enabled, but I want to have it on.
[20:00] <revstray> Ubuntu Netbook Remix is terrific, thanks for all the great work guys.
[20:00] <biovore> Shard_: should be fine assuming you don't have a buggy AHCI controller.
[20:00] <azlon> i type smb://mini-me/ and it says bash: smb://mini-me: No such file or directory
[20:00] <rikkardo> OK, I'll try
[20:01] <biovore> azlon: on the cmd-line its a different story.  you need to samba shares like you do a cdrom or other media.
[20:01] <azlon> hrmm
[20:01] <diddy> n2diy, there is no such thing on the card. There is only a sticker with a barcode some long number just underneath it Pinnacle systems GmbH and some other long number followed by (h)
[20:01] <JEEB> Hello there. I'm on 9.04 and I'm having a problem with backing up my files from an NTFS partition to an USB HDD which is NTFS as well. I'm getting the "No space left on device" error
[20:01] <fever> Hi laptop users - anyone here use TuxOnIce with Jaunty?
[20:01] <biovore> azlon: I suggest you read up on smbmount
[20:01] <anr78> Nautilus finds my Macintosh HD and mounts it fine, but how can I make it automatic on boot/login?
[20:02] <JEEB> Should I build newer ntfs-3g or something like that?
[20:02] <azlon> biovore, i want to copy my apt-get shares to my machine i just built but i cant copy to /var because it is a root folder...
[20:02] <biovore> azlon: sftp is the best bet
[20:02] <azlon> i ran nautilus using sudo and it still didnt work
[20:02] <azlon> hrmm
[20:02] <azlon> sftp
[20:02] <azlon> ok
[20:02] <FloodBot3> azlon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <biovore> or scp
[20:02] <steve_> hi
[20:02] <revstray> I just bought an HP Mini and booted it up and saw the Windows installation, immediately jumped over to ubu and dl'ed UNR. Quick download, dd'ed to a flash drive and away I went. Aside from a couple secondary installs (NIC, Sound) it was perfect.
[20:03] <steve_> i love ubuntu
[20:03] <biovore> revstray: yay..
[20:03] <bhaskar_> command for kde install
[20:03] <steve_> but i may try arch
[20:03] <biovore> bhaskar_: kde desktop?
[20:03] <Total_Oblivion> hello! how can i port forward deluge?
[20:03] <sblunix> are mibbit users not allowed in #ubuntu?
[20:03] <diddy> n2diy, I have a /dev/video0 so that means that it was recognized, right?
[20:03] <steve_> just like any other app
[20:03] <bhaskar_> yeah biovre: using ubuntu
[20:03] <homovitruvius> shouldn't xmodmap be executed when a gnome session is started if one has a ~/.xmodmaprc file? It doesn't seem to be the case on my 9.04 installation.
[20:04] <revstray> So I am wondering, where does one configure the Windows key to open the UNR window? :)
[20:04] <diddy> n2diy, at least that is what it says in the wiki I am just looking at.
[20:04] <biovore> bhaskar_: apt-get install kde-desktop or kde4-desktop  not sure which it is atm..
[20:04] <bhaskar_> what is better kde/ xubuntu on my jaunty
[20:05] <pylunis> ok so in UNR mode, if I enable compiz effects I get transparency but nothing draws properly...panels are invisible until I point to where a launcher should be, which causes the launcher to draw. then i click a button on the main menu and it'll show, but it's all black. in normal gnome, compiz effects work fine, but if I run something in openGL mode (like cairo-dock) i get black backgrounds where it should be transparent. system
[20:05] <pylunis> ->administration->hardware drivers shows no other drivers for my video chip. what the hell do I do here?
[20:05] <biovore> pylunis: what graphics card?
[20:05] <diddy> What program can I use to record TV with my TV card?
[20:05] <fever> I'll try again :) Hi laptop users - anyone here use TuxOnIce with Jaunty?
[20:05] <diddy> xawtv ?
[20:06] <pelmen> bhaskar_: awesome should be best
[20:06] <pylunis> biovore: Radeon Xpress 200M?
[20:06] <pylunis> biovore: that's what lspci calls it, anyway
[20:06] <biovore> pylunis: theres your problem.. :-P
[20:06] <bhaskar_> pelmen: what is awesome
[20:06] <scorpy> hello people, can someone help with wifi?
[20:06] <pylunis> biovore: what, exactly?
[20:06] <biovore> scorpy: which wifi device?
[20:06] <pelmen> well you asked which desktop/window manager is better i recommended "awesome" google it
[20:07] <bhaskar_> pelmen: and how i will get it
[20:07] <biovore> pylunis: I had that card here for a bit..  I chucked it.. dosn't work with a dam on linux..
[20:07] <pylunis> biovore: you sure? it's an integrated chip.
[20:07] <pylunis> biovore: laptop, btw
[20:07] <JEEB> I think I'll repeat my question: I'm on 9.04 and I'm having a problem with backing up my files from an NTFS partition to an USB HDD which is NTFS as well. I'm getting the "No space left on device" error. Should I build newer ntfs-3g or something like that?
[20:07] <scorpy> well i just installed ubuntu se alongside windows on my laptop and it doesnt seem to be picking up a wifi connnection which is normally constant in my area
[20:08] <biovore> yup..   same here.. dell E1705.  You can replace it on this laptop.
[20:08] <pylunis> biovore: lucky bastard. well, any reason i couldn't just pull the latest fglrx from AMD's site?
[20:09] <buttons840> when i select the share tab in properties, does anyone know where the sharing config is stored, i've looked in smb.conf but it makes no mention of the folder which i have shared using the GUI, but the folder is available for sharing
[20:09] <biovore> pylunis: can give it a shot..  always did weird things for me..
[20:09] <pylunis> biovore: well hell, here goes
[20:09] <bhaskar_> pelmen: where do i get awesome
[20:09] <scorpy> wireless lan 802.11b/g
[20:09] <pelmen> bhaskar_: google it
[20:09] <pelmen> "awesome wm"
[20:09] <buttons840> !google
[20:10] <pelmen> hmm :)
[20:10] <gartral> anyon have a samsung cameraphone?
[20:10] <biovore> gartral: i910 here
[20:10] <pelmen> bhaskar_: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[20:10] <funalien> hello :) can you advise me how to listen to music in .cue image with linux players?
[20:11] <biovore> funalien: .cue is a disk image.. not a media file..
[20:11] <guinness> hi guys, how can i shared files between ubuntu and ubuntu using LAN?
[20:11] <anr78> If I remove a repository from my /etc/apt/sources.list, how can I make sure all the packages from that repository are uninstalled?
[20:12] <biovore> guinness: sftp/scp is the easiest..  apt-get install openssh-server on both sides..
[20:12] <funalien> biovore, but windows users can listen with foobar
[20:12] <gartral> biovore: mine says "SCH-U340"
[20:12] <hrenos> hi guys
[20:12] <biovore> guinness: in naultilus do a sftp://<username>@ipaddress:/home/<username>
[20:13] <anr78> or, is there an apt-log where I can see the latest operations I have done?
[20:13] <diddy> n2diy, I have a picture it works! xawtv works! *happy* But I don't have a sound. :(
[20:13] <Barnabas> funalien : you need to mount the cue image
[20:13] <grawity> biovore: .cue isn't even a disk image - it's more like an index for a separate .bin image - still many players support it.
[20:13] <grawity> biovore, guinness: Correction: sftp://username@ipaddress/home/username
[20:13] <Barnabas> funalien : it is probably a cd or dvd image
[20:13] <guinness> biovore : more detail please
[20:13] <funalien> Barnabas, now I'm going to try this. Thanks
[20:14] <biovore> guinness: openssh is a secure shell / file transfer system.    you will need to install openssh-server on both systems..
[20:14] <funalien> Barnabas, grawity it is an index file for flac
[20:14] <cigano> hello
[20:14] <cigano> kaka
[20:14] <guinness> biovore : okay please wait
[20:14] <ectospasm> biovore: you don't need openssh-server on the client system, unless the other side is connecting as a client as well
[20:14] <Q_Continuum> Any simplier (or via GUI way) to disable the system "beep" in 9.04 besides: 'echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf' ?
[20:14] <biovore> ectospasm: true..
[20:15] <dzitij> hi. i tried asking about this in #windows but noone was able to help. basically, i'm trying to disable vsync on windows vista, ati radeon hd3200 gfx card on a laptop
[20:15] <haf1ztang> guys, i got a notice everything i want to boot to ubuntu
[20:15] <dzitij> i heard there was some known issues with vsync on vista
[20:15] <ectospasm> dzitij: this is #ubuntu
[20:15] <dzitij> but i wasnt able to find any solutions
[20:15] <haf1ztang> but i cant read it ..its only about 2sec..not enough time to read
[20:15] <dzitij> ectospasm, obviously. but i figured someone here might happen to know about this issue
[20:16] <haf1ztang> anyone hav idea how am i going to settle that
[20:16] <ectospasm> dzitij: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:16] <biovore> guinness: once you got it installed, you can go into nautilus and type "sftp://username@ipaddress:/home/username/" in the location bar and it should connect.
[20:16] <funalien> Barnabas, grawity,  in that .cue file split time of every song is showed
[20:16] <dzitij> ok
[20:16] <amonxz_> hi everyone can someone explain me how to install ff 3.5.2 on intrepid by the tar.bz2 file?
[20:16] <guinness> biovore : how can i know the ip addresss?
[20:16] <grawity> amonxz_: I would suggest using the Ubuntuzilla tool, it does that for you.
[20:17] <biovore> guinness: I ussually open a shell and type "ifconfig"
[20:17] <amonxz_> ubuntuzilla never heard of it
[20:17] <b3rz3rk3r> amonxz_, why not just use reps?
[20:17] <Kelder> guinness: or you can go to whatismyip.com
[20:17] <grawity> amonxz_: http://ubuntuzilla.sf.net/
[20:17] <bhaskar_> http://pastebin.com/d219ee4bb  ::: somebody help me to get kde
[20:17] <Kelder> localhost works too prolly
[20:17] <FreshCure> has anyone been using projectM ?
[20:17] <amonxz_> b3rz3rk3r: cuz is intrepid
[20:18] <amonxz_> grawity: im on it
[20:18] <grawity> funalien: I would suggest splitting the bug flac to a flac for each song...
[20:18] <funalien> grawity, how can I do this?
[20:19] <guinness> biovore : sth like 192.168.1.2 or else?
[20:19] <homovitruvius> ema
[20:20] <biovore> guinness: yeah.. thats looks about right for something on the backside of a internet router thing.
[20:20] <biovore> guinness: need to know the ip of the machine your going to connect to.
[20:20] <grawity> funalien: This page I found says: cp filename.flac filename-backup-just-in-case.flac; sudo apt-get install shntool; shntool split -f filename.cue -o flac filename.flac
[20:20] <JEEB> Ok, alright. If you don't want to answer it's ok. I'm going to build NTFS-3G then. But _at least_ tell me if it's ok to do the default configure , make , make install magic to it or does Ubuntu need something specific?
[20:20] <guinness> biovore : okay, what's next?
[20:21] <biovore> guinness: once you know the IP's on both sides..
[20:21] <funalien> grawity, thanks)
[20:21] <biovore> guinness: open up nautilus (the file browser thing in gnome)
[20:21] <wizz> can someone help me? i have lil trouble with my screen resolution.
[20:21] <dehqan> good day every body , how can this error e fixed ?# ./install.sh --with-upek ldd: ./bin/fingerprintPAM/32bit/libpam_fingerprint.so*: No such file or directory
[20:21] <grawity> JEEB: I just noticed your question, so ... Ubuntu includes ntfs-3g compiled in, AFAIK.(If nobody answers, it means either a) nobody knows, b) nobody noticed.)
[20:22] <guinness> biovore : then?
[20:22] <grawity> JEEB: So you should not have to build anything - just mount -t ntfs-3g etc.
[20:22] <GuidMorrow> why won't freenode accept a SSL connection
[20:22] <biovore> guinness: you see the location bar?
[20:22] <guinness> biovore : yes
[20:22] <gartral> how do i extract the photos froma camera phone that registers as a wireless modem?
[20:22] <JEEB> grawity: don't NTFS partitions go by ntfs-3g by default? Also, I talked about building because the current version I use for mounting gives me No space left on device
[20:22] <biovore> guinness: type this into it: sftp://<remote machines IP>
[20:23] <wizz> i have trouble with screen resolution
[20:23] <grawity> GuidMorrow: The current ircd, Hyperion, does not support SSL connections. But ircd-seven (currently under development) will. Further questions in #freenode, please.
[20:23] <biovore> guinness: should prompt for some stuff..   and ask for a username/password
[20:23] <bhaskar_> some body help me install kde
[20:23] <amonxz_> grawity: the links for downloading dont work
[20:23] <wizz> ubottu: screen resolution
[20:23] <diddy> Anybody has an idea why I do not get a sound from my Pinnacle TV card? The picture is fine. I am using the program xawtv
[20:23] <JEEB> Also, I know that people didn't notice, but I'd like to get this stuff backed up in 5-6 hours D:
[20:23] <biovore> bhaskar_: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[20:23] <JEEB> And I only repeated the question once
[20:23] <wizz> JEEB: can i ask u something?
[20:24] <JEEB> Sure, go ahead
[20:24] <gwildor> diddy, last time i used a tv card... i had to goo audio out of tv card, to audio in of sound card.... and make sure my mixer settings were right.... did you check these things?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:24] <tox2ik> how do i close the netbobok-launcher?
[20:25] <gwildor> you can use xkill
[20:25] <bhaskar_> biovre bhaskar@ubuntu:~$  sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[20:25] <bhaskar_> Reading package lists... Done
[20:25] <bhaskar_> Building dependency tree
[20:25] <bhaskar_> Reading state information... Done
[20:25] <bhaskar_> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[20:25] <bhaskar_> bhaskar@ubuntu:~$
[20:25] <FloodBot3> bhaskar_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <wizz> why everybody deny me?
[20:25] <b3rz3rk3r> hey ActionParsnip
[20:25] <grawity> bhaskar_: It's kubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <gwildor> or, use the menu to switch to regular desktop tox2ik
[20:25] <wizz> HEEELLLPP!!!!!
[20:25] <tox2ik> gwildor: hm yeah good idea
[20:25] <biovore> bhaskar_: kde4-desktop?
[20:25] <wizz> HELP|
[20:25] <grawity> wizz: You have not asked your question yet.
[20:25] <uuv> I'm trying to extract a .r00-.r45 -files (a multi file .rar-package), and i've installed unrar. When i double click a .r00 file it shows the archive correctly, but when i try to extract it it says it's complete but the file is nowhere. How can i fix this?
[20:25] <Q_Continuum> I am doing 'su echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf' and getting a 'Permission Denied' - is it file in use, or why is it rejecting me?
[20:25] <JimmyJames> alguien que hable español y me pueda ayudar con un tema Oracle/Apache ???????????????? GRAX :D
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> bhaskar: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <biovore> !es
[20:25] <JimmyJames> (join #ubuntu-es
[20:25] <Cooldown> I have a bit of a problem with my ubuntu, not only my install but also my live cd.  Some of my text is showing up half white or all white instead of black, on several parts of the screen.  Lately its also started "blurring" out on top of that.  It happens randomly and the screen doesn't seem to be updating the way it should sometimes.   Anybody have any ideas?
[20:26] <wizz> i has been, grawity.
[20:26] <gwildor> uuv, you might need to refresh the directory that the rar files are in
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> uuv: rar x filname.r00
[20:26] <tox2ik> gwildor: but that killed the whole session lol
[20:26] <grawity> wizz: All you said is that you have a video problem. That is not a question.
[20:26] <guinness> biovore : wait, sth going wrong. i can't see the folder on the other computer, only my computer
[20:26] <gwildor> tox2ik, then use the menu entry...
[20:26] <grawity> Q_Continuum: I think 'su' probably doesn't work when the root account is locked (as is by default on ubuntu).
[20:26] <JEEB> So, I ask - is there a ubuntu repository that has ntfs-3g that's newer than ntfs-3g 2009.2.1 external FUSE 27 - Third Generation NTFS Driver ?
[20:26] <gwildor> tox2ik, preferences -> switch desktop mode
[20:26] <biovore> guinness: put in the right IP address.. maybe you told it to connect to your self..
[20:26] <JEEB> Because the changelog tells me that the 4.4 version would have fixed my problems
[20:26] <grawity> Q_Continuum: Try using 'sudo -s' for a root shell.
[20:26] <diddy> gwildor,  audio out of tv card, to audio in of sound card? Where is that setting?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> jeeb: there may be a ppa you can add somewhere
[20:27] <bhaskar_> i dont unerstand it i wanted kde window like version as my frnd go BIOVRE: GRAVITY:
[20:27] <gwildor> diddy, it was an actual cord i had to plug in.... on the back of the computer..
[20:27] <diddy> gwildor, what must the mixer settings be like?
[20:27] <JEEB> ActionParsnip: yes, I know - I just didn't want to install any random one so I asked here >_>
[20:27] <gwildor> diddy, make sure audi oin is enabled and not muted....
[20:27] <biovore> bhaskar_: what kde version was he running?
[20:27] <gwildor> diddy, cant you link me to the card you have?!?
[20:27] <uuv> Okay thanks, i did sudo apt-get install rar and it started working. THanks!
[20:28] <Q_Continuum> grawity: I had tried sudo first, dunno why I did 'su command', same error.  sudo -s worked.  Thanks!
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> bhaskar: the kubuntu-desktop package will install all you need, you will need to log off, change session type then log on
[20:28] <haf1ztang> guys,
[20:28] <diddy> gwildor: I can only see TV, comp and s-video at the back of my TV card.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> uuv: cool
[20:28] <gwildor> diddy, what does the 'comp' plug look like?
[20:29] <bhaskar_> biovre: i asked him to write u he will shortly write by name of abhishek
[20:29] <haf1ztang> help me with my ubuntu pls. after i boot..then theres a msg..it more to an error but not enough time to read it..how am i going to solve it?
[20:29] <rockguel> Hola
[20:29] <jan__> Hi all!
[20:29] <Cooldown> I know everyones prolly busy, but does someone have any ideas what could be wrong?
[20:29] <diddy> gwildor, copy is a yellow ring and a metal pin is sticking out in the middle.
[20:30] <rockguel> tengo una base de expansión de una pavilion
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> haf1ztang: if you can ssh to the system you can read: dmesg | less
[20:30] <grawity> haf1ztang: We can only help you if you tell us the _exact_ message you get.
[20:30] <rockguel> trae mouse y teclado inalambricos, sirven con ubuntu?
[20:30] <gwildor> haf1ztang, we need to know what it says. you can try pressing "print screen" when it is there
[20:30] <diddy> gwildor, unfortunately I don't know what model it is. There is nothing on the card and was not able to find it out via lshw
[20:30] <gwildor> diddy, sometimes it says on the card itself.
[20:30] <biovore> bhaskar_: which ubuntu distro you running..  9.04 ?
[20:30] <diddy> gwildor, http://pastebin.ca/1530732
[20:31] <bhaskar_> biovre: he has got 4.2
[20:31] <diddy> gwildor, there is nothing on the card.
[20:31] <jan__> I have an encrypted /home partition on UbuntuStudio ...   I would like to reinstall Ubuntu (not UStudio) and would like to unencrypt it. Is that possible and how?
[20:31] <wizz> OK. i was connecting my laptop to Projector, and I must synchronize its resolution to fit to the Projector. but when i retract it. my laptop resolution can't back to normal resolution
[20:31] <bhaskar_> biovre yes the jaunty
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> cooldown: did you md5 check the iso? did you verify the cd? have you tested your ram?
[20:31] <JanHolbo> sorry had to change nick ....
[20:32] <RagnarokAngel> I've got an issue with my sound jack on a toshiba Satellite A-135 running Jaunty and can't seem to figure out exactly what I need to do to fix it.
[20:32] <biovore> bhaskar_: kde 4.2 is in the repos..
[20:32] <RagnarokAngel> I know the issue is ALSA
[20:32] <gwildor> diddy, #
[20:32] <gwildor> product: SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder
[20:32] <gwildor> #
[20:32] <gwildor>                 vendor: Philips Semiconductors
[20:32] <FloodBot3> gwildor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <gwildor> oops, sorry guys.
[20:32] <JanHolbo> Does anybody know about encryption of /home ?
[20:32] <bhaskar_> biovre: http://pastebin.com/d24882a34
[20:32] <Cooldown> ActionParsnip: No I didn't md5 the iso, I verified it when it burned, and I interrupted a ram test earlier and was going to start it again later.  Is that the possible cause?
[20:33] <abhishek> i have version 4.2
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> janholbo: i never bothered. to me its asking for problems
[20:33] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: youd have to encrypt the whole partition
[20:33] <RagnarokAngel> but putting in the latest PPA didn't fix it, and there is some sort of patch that I have no idea how to apply.
[20:33] <Flimflam> hi
[20:33] <abhishek> kde version 4.2
[20:33] <grawity> tox2ik: It is possible to only encrypt $HOME.
[20:33] <wizz> grawty: my monitor resolution won't back to normal, after i retract it from the Projector. my normal resolution is 1280 x 800
[20:33] <gwildor> diddy, id start with googeling   :      saa7134/saa7135hl sound linux
[20:33] <sharperguy> Is there any way I can share an external drive on the network using the same GUI as for attached devices? It doesn't show up in the right click menu or properties.
[20:33] <tox2ik> grawity: using what exactly?
[20:33] <gwildor> wizz, did you try doing it manually from the preferences?
[20:33] <biovore> bhaskar_: apt-get update
[20:33] <grawity> tox2ik: encfs. And a PAM module to auto-decrypt it.
[20:34] <JanHolbo> tox2ik: I've done so already while installing UbuntuStudio from the DVD
[20:34] <wizz> yes. i did it.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> sharpeguy: you can share the mount point using samba
[20:34] <diddy> gwildor, thx. I will have a look
[20:34] <bhaskar_> biovre
[20:34] <JanHolbo> tox2ik: now I would like to unencrypt it
[20:34] <wizz> grawity: yes. i had do it.
[20:34] <RagnarokAngel> does anyone have some experience messing with ALSA?
[20:34] <bhaskar_> biovre: bhaskar@ubuntu:~$ apt-get update
[20:34] <bhaskar_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[20:34] <bhaskar_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[20:34] <bhaskar_> bhaskar@ubuntu:~$
[20:34] <gwildor> wizz, you may need to restart X... i had that problem when i hooked up an external monitor
[20:34] <FloodBot3> bhaskar_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: how come? is it slow?
[20:34] <gwildor> bhaskar_, sudo apt-get update
[20:34] <biovore> bhaskar_: sudo apt-get update
[20:35] <biovore> bhaskar_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kd4-desktop
[20:35] <biovore> bhaskar_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[20:35] <JanHolbo> tox2ik: I would like to reinstall to Ubuntu (not UStudio)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> sharpeguy: i think nautilus has an interface to this. i personally edit /etc/samba/smb.conf you will need to run: sudo apt-get install samba
[20:35] <gwildor> bhaskar_, "permission" denied almost always means you need sudo, well i guess always
[20:35] <grawity> biovore, bhaskar_: I told you, it's called kubuntu-desktop
[20:35] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: if you want to wipe the whole disk then there is no point unencrypting it?
[20:36] <JanHolbo> I want to keep the data on my /home
[20:36] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: just save the files you need and reinstall, no?
[20:36] <FreshCure> has anyone got subspace/continuum to work with wine ?
[20:36] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: can you access them now?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> freshcure: check the appdb
[20:36] <wizz> grawity: when i wanna choose back to my normal resolution. option of 1280 X 800is not appear. it's not normal. is it?
[20:36] <Cooldown> ActionParsnip: No I didn't md5 the iso, I verified it when it burned, and I interrupted a ram test earlier and was going to start it again later.  Is that the possible cause?
[20:36] <FreshCure> k
[20:37] <JanHolbo> tox2ik: it's 120 GB worth of files ...   I have nowhere to put them atm
[20:37] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: i see
[20:37] <JanHolbo> tox2ik: I have access to them
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> janholbo: could just restore from backup
[20:37] <biovore> grawity: that works as well..  hes having depenceny issues for some reason..
[20:37] <ipatrol6010> How do you make a bash script, give it root authority, and make run on startup without showing the terminal?
[20:37] <wizz> grawity: how to restart X?
[20:37] <diddy> gwildor: I think I might have found some solution: I tried sudo rmmod tda9887 but it is telling me the module is in use so I can not unload it.
[20:38] <grawity> ipatrol6010: 1) you write it; 2) you cannot; 3) just add it to startup.
[20:38] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: tbh im quite blank on the subject
[20:38] <bhaskar_> gravity: i am confused.just help me by command and command so that i have k ubunto install in jaunty
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: add it to /etc/rc.local
[20:38] <grawity> bhaskar_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <biovore> diddy: lsmod and look to see what modules are using that module you want to remove..
[20:38] <ipatrol6010> But my script needs root authority
[20:38] <JanHolbo> The only option I see right now is to make the partition smaller make a new partition, copy some files resize, rinse and repeat ....
[20:38] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Why, exactly?
[20:38] <Pupeno> Does Wubi work on Windows 7?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: put the script in /usr/bin and it will be universally availa ble
[20:38] <JanHolbo> ActionParsnip: I have no access to that kind of space atm
[20:39] <grawity> Pupeno: Yes.
[20:39] <ipatrol6010> Because the command needs root authority to work
[20:39] <gwildor> diddy, is that the module your card uses?....
[20:39] <grawity> ipatrol6010: _What_ command?
[20:39] <ipatrol6010> Gimme a sec...
[20:39] <diddy> gwildor, yes
[20:39] <homovitruvius> diddy: I've found this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-ubuntu-linux-configure-pinnacle-pctv-tuner.html. I'm following your struggle because I'm also looking for a TV capture card.
[20:39] <gwildor> diddy, and why do you want to remove it?
[20:39] <biovore> Pupeno: In theory it should.. but no guarenties.. do at your own risk..
[20:39] <tox2ik> JanHolbo: try in #ubuntustudio
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: /etc/rc.local is owned by root so anything it does will have full system access
[20:39] <bhaskar_> http://pastebin.com/d6d0cb761  gravity, biovore, gwildor:
[20:39] <JanHolbo> thanks tox2ik didn't know they had their own channel
[20:40] <ipatrol6010> mount -t vboxsf Shared '/mnt'
[20:40] <gwildor> bhaskar_, just say yes
[20:40] <diddy> gwildor: I found this problem solution (no sound/sorry it is in Geman): http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/saa7134
[20:40] <gwildor> diddy, i cant read german, sorry
[20:40] <Mems_> hello
[20:40] <Mems_> :)
[20:40] <ipatrol6010> Parsnip: But first I need to use the gksudo nautilis command to place the script there?
[20:40] <diddy> gwildor: That is OK, there are the commands listed. I will try to remove the module first
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> !hi | mems
[20:41] <RagnarokAngel> why is alsa so difficult...
[20:41] <Mems_> i need a little help
[20:41]  * grawity wonders where has he seen ernetas`d's nick.
[20:41] <ipatrol6010> Testing...
[20:41] <ipatrol6010> How do you open Emacs?
[20:41] <Mems_> i just download the iso , and burn it
[20:41] <Mems_> from torrent
[20:41] <grawity> ipatrol6010: 1) Install emacs.
[20:41] <gwildor> diddy, as someone said erlier, lsmos     see what is using the module...
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> ragnarockangel: depends on the soundcard. i think alsa is brilliant
[20:41] <haf1ztang> gwildor: are u sure i can print screen while the system boot?
[20:41] <Mems_> and when i start to setup
[20:41] <biovore> bhaskar_: what happens if you try "sudo apt-get install awk"
[20:41] <bhaskar_> gwildor: are u playing it didnt work i hve y all over terminal
[20:41] <Mems_> it give me an error
[20:41] <ipatrol6010> There's an emacs folder, but it won't run
[20:41] <biovore> bhaskar_: what happens if you try "sudo apt-get install ark"
[20:41] <Mems_> Error Read From CD
[20:41] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Ubuntu doesn't come with emacs by default (only nano, vi, and Gedit)
[20:41] <gwildor> haf1ztang, OH...system boot... i assumed you meant when x was loading.
[20:42] <diddy> homovitruvius, thx. That links very interesting
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: run it from terminal is one way
[20:42] <RagnarokAngel> ActionParsnip: My sound jack doesn't recognize and I have no idea how to apply the patch for it.
[20:42] <ipatrol6010> Is there a GNOME frontend for Emacs?
[20:42] <anr78> Is it pysdm that makes my Mac/Win partitions be located and mounted automatically?
[20:42] <biovore> ipatrol6010: sudo apt-get install emacs
[20:42] <haf1ztang> gwildor: after i choose OS in the grub..then a msg comes out..
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: you can use: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[20:42] <unitxt_> Ubuntu 9.04 will not respond to ctrl-d (for example, if I have a web server running like 'ruby script/server' when i run Jack 'jackd -d alsa' or whatever)...I instead have to alt-f4 out of the terminal...crashing the terminal each time. This has been this way ever since i install ubuntu. Is this a known bug or something?
[20:42] <bhaskar_> biovore:http://pastebin.com/d66f1175a
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: put it above the exit line
[20:42] <bhaskar_> it didnt work
[20:42] <Besogon> What dir is used to install any programs /usr or /usr/local?
[20:43] <gwildor> haf1ztang, sorry, we cant help without knowing what the message is
[20:43] <grawity> Besogon: Usually, programs from repository go to /usr/bin
[20:43] <haf1ztang> gwildor: i think im going to use my hp camera
[20:43] <grawity> Besogon: Programs you compile from sources go to /usr/local/bin
[20:43] <gwildor> haf1ztang, that will work
[20:43] <grawity> Besogon: /bin and /sbin are reserved for important system apps.
[20:43] <ipatrol6010> The Emacs command is working
[20:43] <Besogon> grawity: thanks
[20:43] <gwildor> unitxt_, ctrl-d closes a terminal for me...what are you expecting
[20:43] <haf1ztang> gwildor: other than that?
[20:43] <RagnarokAngel> is this error message from modprobe normal?
[20:44] <wizz> grawity: how to restart X?
[20:44] <lolek> hi there,
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> besoon: usr/bin is where the binary will go. much of the app will be in other locations
[20:44] <gwildor> haf1ztang, lol, a different camera :P
[20:44] <haf1ztang> gwildor: lol!
[20:44] <RagnarokAngel> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.
[20:44] <wizz>  hi lolek!
[20:44] <lolek> i've got a problem with brihtness on my lappie it's equipped with intel gma 945gme...
[20:44] <lolek> wizz: hi
[20:44] <unitxt_> ctrl-d doesn't close a terminal for me though, i have force it to close, crashing it.
[20:44] <wizz> any problem, lolek?
[20:44] <lolek> the problem is that neither the function keys, nor xbacklight is working...
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> ragnarockangel: add .conf to the end of the filename
[20:45] <GuidMorrow> got any ideas? how do I run a game like "The Sims 2" on a system like this?
[20:45] <mook_> hey linux gold you around bud ?
[20:45] <gwildor> unitxt_, are you wanting it closed..... maybe im confused...whats wrong witht eh x in the corner?
[20:45] <gwildor> lolek, there is a gnome panel applet..
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> guldmorrow: check the wine appdb also check if the game devs have made a linux installer
[20:45] <lolek> gwildor: well yep, it is.. and it's not working
[20:46] <mook_> ok whats the command to find out what videocard im running with out cracking the case to look
[20:46] <GuidMorrow> ?
[20:46] <lolek> mook_: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:46] <th0r> unitxt_: try 'exit'
[20:46] <billenium> Is Ubuntu dev team actually aiming for a 10 second boot?
[20:46] <mykola> mook_: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:46] <gwildor> lolek, maybe a power setting issue?... you may have it reduced there?!?!
[20:46] <RagnarokAngel> ActionParsnip: I have two files named Alsa-base and Alsa-base.conf -- is it just saying I need to delete the one without .conf?
[20:46] <mykola> damn ninjad
[20:46] <ipatrol6010> Why must all sorts of stuff be done from the command line? Why can't a GUI be used for nearly everything?
[20:46] <mook_> ty ty
[20:46] <anr78> Ubuntu finds my HFS+ partition, but it is not in /etc/fstab. Is it in another config file? I need to make it mount automatically.
[20:46] <gwildor> ipatrol6010, you didnt write the gui tool yet
[20:46] <mykola> ipatrol6010: because nobody likes clicking 1000000 to do something they could do in 1 line
[20:46] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Ubuntu is a Linux distribution.
[20:46] <lolek> gwildor: well no, i can set the brightness without any problem in bios, but after ubuntu start i can't change it ...
[20:46] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Linux is based on Unix.
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> ragnarockangel: i wouldnt delete any, try renaming instead
[20:47] <gwildor> lolek, i meant ubuntu power settings
[20:47] <mook_> wierd nothin pops up
[20:47] <GuidMorrow> wish it would stop asking for my pw
[20:47] <RagnarokAngel> ActionParsnip: one of them is blank -- the one w/out a .conf at the end
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: the gui doesnt give as much power as the terminal
[20:47] <mykola> mook_: srry, sudo lspci | grep -i vga
[20:47] <ipatrol6010> It's because the gearheads are fine with the CLI, but I dspise it
[20:47] <lolek> gwildor: well maybe, i dunno, but it's weird problem.. i found that there are some bugs reported in the launchpad.. but.. well
[20:47] <grawity> ipatrol6010: It is just recently that they started trying to be noob-friendly. But the primary target of Linux, and other Unix-based OSes, is still servers and computer-literate people.
[20:47] <mykola> mook_: OR just sudo lscpi and scroll through the list
[20:47] <dbugger> Can someone tell me how to set up Evolution so that stay always in sync with my gmail?
[20:47] <gwildor> lolek, well, it might have to do with those bugs....
[20:47] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Ubuntu attempts to be newbie-friendly, but remember - someone has to _write_ those GUIs.
[20:47] <th0r> ipatrol6010: you came to OUR party...you are welcome to leave if you don't like it
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> mook_: sudo lshw -C display    will also work
[20:48] <csudsu> is there a force/ignore error command for apt-get? im dumping a huge list of remove xx package and want it to not stop on missing package/deps
[20:48] <lolek> lolek: i found that the guy that posted the bug, posted of course an alternate command to change the brightness ... i tried it.. but even that
[20:48] <mykola> grawity: lol... ubuntu is definitely NOT for servers :)
[20:48] <grawity> dbugger: Basically, create an IMAP account in Evolution.
[20:48] <gwildor> lolek, make another post..
[20:48] <grawity> mykola: There is Ubuntu Server. But I was talking about Linux in general.
[20:48] <ipatrol6010> Ubuntu should increase its mainstream appeal by writing more GUI programs and reducing dependance on the terminal
[20:48] <mykola> grawity: no matter how much wikipedia lies at you ;)
[20:48] <lolek> gwildor: well even with that (let's call it workaround), i couldn't get it working.. ;/
[20:48] <grawity> ipatrol6010: It _is_ doing so.
[20:48] <grawity> mykola: I have actually used Ubuntu Server. (I prefer Debian though.)
[20:48] <gwildor> ipatrol6010, you are free to write as many gui programs as you would like.
[20:48] <mykola> ipatrol6010: you're missing the point though. even if there was a GUI, alot of people would still use the command line
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: as you use linux you will see how limiting the gui is to get real things done
[20:48] <lolek> gwildor: well i hoped i will got it working without that...
[20:49] <kasia> .,././,.
[20:49] <csudsu> debians a blast until i forget that you can't just -single it
[20:49] <ipatrol6010> WIndows and Mac never need the terminal to do anything
[20:49] <mykola> ipatrol6010: like the newly created gui for adding apt sources... requires like 7 clicks instead of copy/pasting 2 lines
[20:49] <dbugger> grawity, the this is, I dont want the web-inbox to be emptied when I load all the new mails, but I want that if I erase one in evolution, it also erases in the web inbox
[20:49] <mook_> thanks guys i got the info i  needed
[20:49] <dbugger> I dont know how to achieve that
[20:49] <mook_>  RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[20:49] <biovore> bhaskar_: not aw, ark
[20:49] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Windows is a completely different OS than Linux. Don't compare them.
[20:49] <RagnarokAngel> ipatrol: that isn't entirely true. I don't see how you can ping in windows without the terminal...
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: also, irc is text based so it is extremely logical to give command based help
[20:49] <gwildor> ipatrol6010, actually... they do have them... and they both are more powerfull than thr gui program.
[20:50] <mykola> ipatrol6010: there's a windows power shell that experienced admins use all the time
[20:50] <gwildor> ipatrol6010, it would be much faster for you to learn something, than for someone else to write everything you want.
[20:50] <grawity> ipatrol6010: It is *only* *recently* that the *Ubuntu* project started trying to create a friendly Linux distribution. And they are still trying to do so. They are creating many GUI tools.
[20:50] <ipatrol6010> Well I applaud them for doing so
[20:50] <mook_> wow the driver is not listed lol
[20:50] <psi-jack> Oi
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol: if you get into powershell you will find large numbers of systems and even local settings easy to use
[20:50] <mykola> mook_: :(
[20:50] <ipatrol6010> Back in a byte
[20:51] <mook_> yeah my thoughts exacly sadly
[20:51] <psi-jack> So, so far, I've made 4 Ubuntu CD's and none of them seem to be working. This is starting to get very very old. heh
[20:51] <sere> a question
[20:51] <gwildor> psi-jack, what is your hardware?...
[20:51] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Windows was *created* for desktop uses. Unix was created for server uses. Further discussion on #ubuntu-offtopic, thank you.
[20:51] <csudsu> psi-jack get different discs?
[20:51] <sere> it's said ubuntu is debian for ladies
[20:51] <RagnarokAngel> Where do the ALSA config files reside?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: do the iso's you downloaded pass md5 check?
[20:51] <sere> is that true?
[20:51] <GuidMorrow> wth!
[20:51] <grawity> sere: For Linux newbies.
[20:51] <csudsu> ubuntu is debian for moms
[20:51] <jlabomb> sometimes my USB 2.0 seems slow and sometimes it is really fast
[20:51] <biovore> sere: haha..  thats a good one..  :-)
[20:52] <grawity> ActionParsnip: And SHA1, don't forget that.
[20:52] <diddy> gwildor, I found the manual for my TV card online. There is a picture of the card in it and I am 100% sure that this is the one I have: ftp://ftp.pinnaclesys.de/Manual/MediaCenter%20V.3/PCTV110i_EN.pdf
[20:52] <wizz> my resolution can't back to normal after i remove it from the projector which i must synchronize it with the projector resolution first. can someone help me?
[20:52] <Keiffer> do you know why ESPEAK is not working in ubuntu?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> sere: not at all, ubuntu is just another debian based linux distro
[20:52] <gwildor> wizz, restart X
[20:52] <ipatrol6010> How do you instruct a script to run another script?
[20:52] <anr78> gah. why is my Macintosh HD not in /etc/fstab, but in the sidepane of Nautilus? What kind of black magic is this??
[20:52] <diddy> gwildor, I think I have to connect an internal sound card cable.
[20:52] <grawity> ipatrol6010: The same way you instruct it to run any program.
[20:52] <mook_> cant i install that driver into wine for games ????? i found the driver but its for windows wonder if i can toss it in under wine ???
[20:52] <ipatrol6010> How?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: i think its   exec
[20:52] <biovore> anr78: Userspace file system
[20:52] <wizz> how to do it gwildor?
[20:52] <grawity> anr78: Nautilus with gnome-volume-manager has automounting.
[20:52] <gwildor> diddy, aha...that may be.... mine was external...
[20:52] <sere> I need a debian based distro for ladies
[20:53] <ipatrol6010> testing...
[20:53] <gwildor> wizz, the easy way in ubuntu.........restart :P
[20:53] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip, csudsu, gwildor: Well, the system being installed into is a Intel Pentium 4 2.8 with 4gb RAM (3gb-Visible), 6 HDD's and 2 DVD's, (1 of which is a writer).
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> mook_: wine doesnt need windows drivers installing
[20:53] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Well how do you run any program from a script?
[20:53] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: The md5sum was never accurate to say 100% the same thing each time, which was annoying.
[20:53] <gwildor> psi-jack, try burning slower...
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: doesnt matter, did you check the iso before burning?
[20:53] <mook_> hmm on but i need the driver for this video card then and im sure dell does not have it
[20:53] <Pupeno> I've installed Ubuntu with wubi on win7, it finished silently, no "installed successfully" screen or anything, and then restarting I don't get any menus, any ideas?
[20:53] <csudsu> psi-jack is the disc not working or is it a hardware issue, burn slower, use different discs, check the consistency of the disc at the install prompt, etc
[20:53] <anr78> biovore: grawity: ok. so if I want it to mount automatically I will need to add an /etc/fstab-line?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: if the md5 test fails, the image is bad
[20:54] <wizz> i had restart it many times, but i found nothing. it doesn't work
[20:54] <jlabomb> sometimes my USB 2.0 seems slow and sometimes it is really fast
[20:54] <biovore> anr78: you can.. yes
[20:54] <psi-jack> Where is the URL to download Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate, directly and not via torrent?
[20:54] <grawity> anr78: Actually the opposite.
[20:54] <anr78> biovore: but it sounds like you think I should not?
[20:54] <unitxt_> gwildor: for example, if created a rails app ,then issued the command 'ruby script/server' it'll start web brick. If I wanted to shutdown webbrick I have need to issue 'Ctrl-C to shutdown server'. This does not work as the terminal insists on stay up (the process does). Instead I have to close it by clicking the 'x' at the top of the terminal. This should not happen as the terminal should recognice ctrl-c.
[20:54] <ipatrol6010> How do you open nautilis with root privilages?
[20:54] <wizz> gwildor: i ha restart it many times. but nothing work.
[20:54] <grawity> anr78: If the drive is in fstab, then Nautilus automounter will _not_ handle it.
[20:54] <grawity> ipatrol6010: gksudo nautilus
[20:55] <bhaskar_> i need help some body help me http://pastebin.com/d14b23184
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ipaterol6010: gksudo nautilus
[20:55] <gwildor> unitxt_, yes, ctrl-c should work...you were asking ctrl-d....
[20:55] <ipatrol6010> There was the mistake! I misspelled it
[20:55] <grawity> anr78: If it's an internal HD, you should add it to fstab though.
[20:55] <anr78> grawity: so if I do not add a line it will mount automatically? :D
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: you can avoid that by using tab
[20:55] <mykola> ipatrol6010: why do you want a root nautilus shell?
[20:55] <grawity> anr78: Yes. If it's not in fstab, Nautilus will auto-mount it.
[20:56] <ipatrol6010> What's tab?
[20:56] <mykola> tab is a button on your keyboard
[20:56] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: What's annoying about it is I'd downloaded it straight to a solid state USB 500gb HDD, and it still wasn't md5sum'ing the same.
[20:56] <mykola> it autocompletes commands
[20:56] <gwildor> ip-hunter, its a button on your keyboard
[20:56] <grawity> mykola: read up - he's the one complaining about not having a GUI for everything.
[20:56] <anr78> grawity: it is not in /etc/fstab, but I want it automounted, so then I will add a line. thanks
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> mykola: its good for copying files to locations the user has no write access to
[20:56] <gwildor> oops ip-hunter
[20:56] <mykola> grawity: i know, and i'm trying to get him to use the cli :)
[20:56] <grawity> anr78: Is it an internal disk?
[20:56] <mykola> ActionParsnip: so is the sudo cp command :)
[20:56] <gwildor> ActionParsnip, also sudo mv
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> mykola: i know but some user like gui
[20:57] <anr78> grawity: yes. I have an OSX/Ubuntu dual boot, and want Ubuntu to mount my OSX-partition
[20:57] <grawity> mykola: You're welcome. I have already maxed out my newbie quota for today.
[20:57] <mykola> ActionParsnip: i know that... but you gotta grow up some day :)
[20:57] <psi-jack> So now I'm re-downloading 8.04.3 Alternate, on a completely different system entirely.
[20:57] <grawity> anr78: Then you should add it to fstab with the 'auto' option.
[20:57] <mykola> grawity: O.o
[20:57] <psi-jack> cdrecord -v /dev/sr0 options=burnfree ubuntu.iso  --- How do I set the speed, slower in wodim/cdrecord?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> mykola: i use cli more than gui for filemanagement as well as dvd burning and cd ripping. gui is only for web  b rowsing here
[20:58] <grawity> mykola: So please continue tryign to switch that dude to CLI.
[20:58] <Celtic> Ok guys, I am new to Ubuntu.  Just installed over my Vista.  Can anyone tell me why my computer seems to be glitchy.  It's like im lagging when going between windows or when scrolling or going through the menus.
[20:58] <grawity> anr78: Mostly it's like this. If it's an internal one, best to place it in fstab - as you probably will never need to change the entry.
[20:58] <mykola> grawity: heh... it's nigh hopeless... but i have fun trying :D
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: could try wodim
[20:58] <gwildor> Celtic, probably not the correct graphics card driver.... or you can just turn off 3d stuffs
[20:58] <grawity> anr78: If it's an external one - best to let Nautilus handle it automatically.
[20:58] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: cdrecord is wodim now, so, yeah.
[20:58] <gwildor> uh oh
[20:59] <anr78> grawity: yep. thanks.
[20:59] <A[D]minS> how i can upgrade virt-manager to latest release to be able to mount physical devices because 0.6.1 dose not support this option
[20:59] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: I'd done this on my system I was trying to reinstall on, but now I'm having to use my database server that also has a CDRW drive.
[20:59] <wizz> gwildor: you know, UBUNTU have 4 standard resolution. now i just have 3. one of them was gone, which is 1280 x 800
[20:59] <Celtic> How would I check the graphics card driver and such?
[20:59] <A[D]minS> any advise ?
[20:59] <A[D]minS> !virt-manager
[20:59] <ipatrol6010> If I add a shbang to a text file, will it be recognized as a script?
[20:59] <mykola> ipatrol6010: depends on what you put after the shabang
[20:59] <__theIdiotBox> c ya guys
[21:00] <haf1ztang> gwildor: im back..u may check this http://imagebin.org/59753
[21:00] <grawity> ipatrol6010: Only if you also give it the "executable" bit (chmod +x, and such)
[21:00] <ipatrol6010> After it I will put a valid script
[21:00] <^linux^> hey all I need help making my ntfs partition -ro in partition I only have parted to work with .....
[21:00] <mykola> ipatrol6010: /bin/bash for bash scripts, /usr/bin/python for pythong, etc
[21:00] <FloridaGuy> how do i get usb to work in virtualbox
[21:00] <grawity> ipatrol6010: #!/bin/bash AND make it executable.
[21:00] <musikgoat> ipatrol6010: mykola means the path to the shell
[21:00] <ipatrol6010> chmod +x ?
[21:00] <gwildor> haf1ztang, you would need a bios upgrade...that may or may not fix it
[21:00] <^linux^> I already tried droppign to root using gksu nautilus but cannot change anything because of ro
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: its #!/bin/bash   and yes. you will need to chmod +x  it
[21:00] <ipatrol6010> chmod +x ?
[21:00] <lolek> ipatrol6010: yes...
[21:00] <lolek> ipatrol6010: chmod +x filename
[21:01] <RagnarokAngel> Geez, why is messing with ALSA so much like beating my own face into a wall...
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: marks it as executable
[21:01] <haf1ztang> gwildor: bios update? can u guide me?
[21:01] <ipatrol6010> stupid keyboard?
[21:01] <mykola> ipatrol6010: to give it executable
[21:01] <gwildor> haf1ztang, check your computer manufacturer website.
[21:01] <ipatrol6010> testing...
[21:01] <mook_> ok i think i fiound the right driver for ubuntu now i just need to install it
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: otherwise its only a text file
[21:01] <grawity> ipatrol6010: In Nautilus, check the "execute" checkbox on script properties.
[21:01] <mykola> ipatrol6010: if you aren't too afraid of learning about permissions, do a "man chmod"
[21:01] <^linux^> ntfs partition mounts in ro how do I -ro without redoing partition I only got access to parted..
[21:01] <haf1ztang> gwildor: ok then? what do i need to do?
[21:01] <gwildor> mook_, insmod module
[21:02] <psi-jack> So yeah, how do you use wodim to burn at a slower speed? like 8x?
[21:02] <mykola> ipatrol6010: you will "probably" want to chmod all of your scripts to 750 or 755
[21:02] <gwildor> haf1ztang, go to your computers area of the site... type in bios upgrade... directions will be there
[21:02]  * ^linux^ screams at top of lungs
[21:02] <^linux^> :)
[21:02] <mook_>  yeah but i gotta finish dloading it its on slow ips lol
[21:02] <davi-lima> Hi! Would anyone help me getting a Philips SPA 5200 USB soundspeakers to work under Ubuntu? dmesg sees it but it doesn't seem to load the drivers.
[21:02] <haf1ztang> gwildor: will it effect my vista?
[21:02] <unitxt_> hmm, seems like it might have something to do with n_tty_read()
[21:02] <psi-jack> I'll have the ubuntu-8.04-alternate iso in 3 minutes.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: you can remount it with better options. make sure you use:  rw,user,uid=1000
[21:03] <^linux^> action* I only have parted umount & mount option I have to do it in terminal
[21:03] <kevdog> I need a netbook recommendation
[21:03] <ipatrol6010> Will http://paste.ubuntu.com/253801/ work?
[21:03] <^linux^> oops lol hows that damn tab thing work again :P
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: best way. umount it then mount it again using those options
[21:04] <haf1ztang> gwildor: i got dualboot. so, will it effect my vista?
[21:04] <gwildor> no..
[21:04] <gwildor> will prob make vista better
[21:04] <mook_>  this is whare im at now just fyi
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^ make sure you also specify    -t ntfs-3g
[21:04] <haf1ztang> oic
[21:04] <mook_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:04] <ipatrol6010> Will http://paste.ubuntu.com/253801/ work?
[21:04] <psi-jack> OKay, for wodim, is it expecting speed=8x or speed=8?
[21:05] <^linux^> !tab *action* so mount -t ntfs then what?? I do the rw,userid=1000 after the /media/hda2??
[21:05] <haf1ztang> gwildor: so i need to upgrade my bios right?
[21:05] <gwildor> haf1ztang, yes
[21:05] <gwildor> haf1ztang, assuming your computer maker has a bios upgrade that will fix itl... if not, you are stuck with the error
[21:05] <mook_>  its at 55% be right back mabe you can walk me throught this
[21:05] <ipatrol6010> My question?
[21:05] <carlos> #ubuntu-es
[21:06] <haf1ztang> gwildor: but that will not effect my system right?
[21:06] <psi-jack> !wodim
[21:06] <gwildor> haf1ztang, it will make it better.... unless you mess up..
[21:06] <psi-jack> !cdrecord
[21:06] <psi-jack> The bot fails.
[21:06] <haf1ztang> gwildor: one more thing. how sure you are that it will solve that probs?
[21:06] <^linux^> action it failed
[21:06] <^linux^> where I put the stupid rw,user,id=1000??
[21:07] <gwildor> haf1ztang, well, the error is telling me that it is the problem....like i said, it will only be fixed if you computer maker has fixed it....i dont have your computer
[21:07] <xiong> when i want to duplicate a file in nautilus, i must 'copy' the file, then 'paste' it -- this gives me a copy with '(copy)' embedded in the filename -- i have two gripes -- one, why no 'duplicate' command? -- two, why do i have to choose 'rename' immediately? -- why not assume that i'll want to edit the duplicate's filename?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: sudo umount /media/hda2; sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 -t ntfs-3g -o user,rw,uid=1000
[21:07] <^linux^> I am doing mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda2 /media/hda2 te nthe rw,user,uid=1000
[21:07] <^linux^> im in root terminal already
[21:07] <^linux^> oh -o u idd not say -o :P
[21:08] <^linux^> ok I try that
[21:08] <^linux^> did*
[21:08] <jenom> hi there
[21:08] <gwildor> xiong, where have you ever seen a 'duplicate' command?... and why would we assume you would want 2 copies of the same file, in the same place...
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: if you type the word action then press tab, it will autocomplete my name
[21:08] <^linux^> oh yeah
[21:08] <^linux^> ActionParsnip, there is the damn tab thing :P thx
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: np bro
[21:09] <anr78> Is there a way to find out how Nautilus mounts my drive so I can copy the options and stuff to my /etc/fstab?
[21:09] <wwalker> I do very little audio.  a friend is using ubuntu.  what CD ripper comes with ubuntu?
[21:09] <haf1ztang> gwildor: splash noapic nolapic irqfixup <- how about this? i added this into the grub/menu.lst
[21:09] <psi-jack> Alrighty then. Love how people just answer a few things, then when you ask for clarification, you're completely ignored thereafter. ;)
[21:09] <gwildor> xiong, and you have to rename the file immediatly, because there cannot be two files with the same name.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: I'm on a G1 phone so tab doesnt work
[21:09] <gwildor> haf1ztang, that will only HIDE the error... not make it fixed
[21:09] <amaurea> How do I get the state of all keyboard keys in X11?
[21:10] <haf1ztang> gwildor: o ok gwildor
[21:10] <xiong> gwildor, mac os 9 has a 'duplicate' (duplicate file) command in Finder -- and i routinely duplicate files before editing them -- then i rename the copy 'w1', 'w2', etc.
[21:10] <haf1ztang> gwildor: thanks for ur info btw
[21:10] <Mattaspads> hi i don't get to install java on my computer 9.04 any tips?
[21:10] <^linux^> I do not havre ntfs-3g :P
[21:10] <^linux^> but it mounted thx
[21:10] <gwildor> xiong, if they are copies of the same file (exaclty the same thing) why does it matter which you rename?
[21:11] <^linux^> lets see fi I can access rw now
[21:11] <gwildor> Mattaspads, how have you tried to install?
[21:11] <yoyoned> Mattaspads: what error do you get
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[21:11] <ipatrol6010> How do you make a symbolic link?
[21:11] <Guest41932> hi can someone show me how to re-enable the networkmanager
[21:11] <Mattaspads> there is alot of java packages gwildor but none of them works when i need the java to get into my netbank
[21:12] <xiong> gwildor, it doesn't matter which -- but i do need to rename at once, since '(copy)' is not to my liking
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: ln -s item destination
[21:12] <yoyoned> ipatrol6010: ls -s /path/to/target /paht/to/link
[21:12] <wwalker> ipatrol6010: man ln    (ln -s target_path link_path
[21:12] <jenom> hi i need to install a never version of mingw instead of the one in the repository. do i need to compile it myself then or is there somewhere a deb with the newer version. the one from 9.10 has the right version but the mingw-runtime does not match the mingw-core. thx
[21:12] <ipatrol6010> Is there a GUI way of doing that?
[21:12] <sdv00> can someone show me how to re-enable the networkmanager?
[21:12] <^linux^> even with remount its read only even in gksu ????
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: not that i am aware of
[21:12] <ipatrol6010> Like a shortcut (Windows) or ailias (Mac)
[21:13] <^linux^> ActionParsnip, failed with error ^~^
[21:13] <gwildor> Mattaspads, hold on..
[21:13] <FreshCure> hey how come I cant get sound in Abuse ?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: a symlink is far more powerful than a windows shortcut
[21:13] <yoyoned> ipatrol6010: you can do it in nautalis.
[21:13] <Mattaspads> i will gwildor
[21:13] <haf1ztang> gwildor: how about updating the bios? will it works?
[21:13] <^linux^> ActionParsnip,  its still read only ??
[21:13] <xiong> gwildor, indeed i'd be happiest if i could just change nautilus' default behavior, so that when i duplicated a file, it would automatically rename it with 'oldname wXX.txt', where XX is the next available integer
[21:13] <Journeyman> where can i get the most up-to-date java deb?
[21:13] <ipatrol6010> yoyned:HOw?
[21:13] <Journeyman> there seems to be an exploit in the older one
[21:13] <yoyoned> ipatrol6010: copy then edit/make link
[21:13] <azexian> hi, I'd like to be able to use page-up as a shortcut key but I can't map it in the standard program because I get an error, is there anyway I can bypass this?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^: because you dont have nts-3g installed
[21:14] <gwildor> Mattaspads, try apt-get install sun-java-bin sun-java-plugin
[21:14] <^linux^> heh well being 5.10 I cannt install it yet
[21:14] <ipatrol6010> Figured it out
[21:14] <^linux^> I am buring xubuntu now Just tring to get drivers for customer
[21:14] <gwildor> haf1ztang, ONLY if your computer company has made an update that fixes the prolem... i DO NOT have your computer.
[21:14] <rittyan1> Hi all. A question: does ubuntu-netbook-remix use standard ubuntu repos? What I don't like about precompiled distros is that repos are slow on new versions (as a developer I need fresh stuff) and if netbook remix uses separate repos then it is way behind
[21:14] <sdv00> can someone show me how to re-enable the networkmanager???
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ^linux^ then you need to compile it. otherwise you are stuck
[21:14] <erUSUL> sdv00: how did you disabled it ?
[21:14] <ipatrol6010> How do I keep the terminal running, but make it disappear?
[21:15] <yoyoned> ipatrol6010: makeing a link is one of the many examples of things that are easier in terminal
[21:15] <shawncm217> i've googled a little. what's the timeline for ubuntu officially updating to FF 3.5?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> rittyan1: yes. its still ubuntu and uses standard repos
[21:15] <sdv00> erUSUL: I killed the process in terminal
[21:15] <erUSUL> !ff35 | shawncm217
[21:15] <rittyan1> ActionParsnip: thank you! gonna download and install :)
[21:15] <erUSUL> sdv00: launch it again
[21:15] <babyshambles> biovore : it's me guinness. just wanna say thank you, i'm now able to move my files from my netbook to desktop (3 hrs to go. LOL)
[21:15] <sdv00> erUSUL: was testing aircrack-ng :O
[21:15] <sdv00> erUSUL: how?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> shawncm217: its in the official repos. its a seperate app in jaunty but an upgrade in karmic
[21:16] <^linux^> damn it I did not wanan run back to the shop to put it on flash & have to run back ehre if it fails ...
[21:16] <ipatrol6010> How do I keep the terminal running while making it disappear?
[21:16] <^linux^> well thx neway ActionParsnip
[21:16] <Mattaspads> gwildor: the terminal could not find the package sun-java-bin
[21:16] <erUSUL> sdv00: nm-applet ? log out / log in cycle ?
[21:16] <Glyn> My ubuntu is having graphic problems. How do I boot into low graphics mode?
[21:16]  * ^linux^ screams bloody murder & leaves
[21:16] <yoyoned> ipatrol6010: what do you mean make is disapear
[21:16] <sdv00> erUSUL: ok thx
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: minimise it like in windows
[21:16] <gwildor> Mattaspads, it will probably be easier to google: ubuntu install java
[21:17] <ipatrol6010> So the terminal process keep running but so that the terminal window is no longer visible either on screen or in the bar
[21:17] <erUSUL> Mattaspads: is sun-java6-jre (or jdk for development)
[21:17] <erUSUL> !java | Mattaspads
[21:17] <ipatrol6010> How can I make it do that?
[21:17] <denialh> place a "&" after your command, ipatrol6010
[21:17] <bhaskar_> i dint get kde installed i am frustated
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[21:17] <gwildor> erUSUL, thanks, im not too handy with the bot :P
[21:17] <Glyn> My ubuntu is having graphic problems. How do I boot into low graphics mode?
[21:17] <erUSUL> ipatrol6010: use « nohup command »  or screen
[21:17] <anr78> I try manually mounting my hfs+ partition from a line in /etc/fstab, but get a message about "read only filesystem". when nautilus mounts it, I can read just fine :-(
[21:17] <lopes> boa tarde
[21:18] <GPL> ipatrol6010: i suggest you use avant window navigator, and use Terminal applet, that way you can access it easily
[21:18] <ipatrol6010> If i place & and then close the terminal, will it still run?
[21:18] <erUSUL> !br | lopes
[21:18] <GPL> ipatrol6010:  yes it ll still run
[21:18] <denialh> I think it does
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> ipatrol6010: it will always be in the bar. you can use tilda instead and it will drop from above like the tilda console in half-life or wolfenstein3D
[21:18] <erUSUL> ipatrol6010: no; you need nohup
[21:18] <lopes> ok
[21:19] <psi-jack> Well, time to see if THIS burn works. grr
[21:19] <gwildor> GL!
[21:19] <Glyn> Anybody: I need help with some graphics card issues
[21:19] <Pr0nad> /# grub-install /dev/sda
[21:19] <Pr0nad> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> glyn: wassup
[21:20] <gwildor> psi-jack, in the past, i have had to make some bios changes....before ubunt (any linux) will boot
[21:20] <Pr0nad> Am i fucked now?
[21:20] <Mattaspads> ubottu: i get too much errors ? dont understand, maybe you could help me by remote desktop?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> pr0nad: no, just watch your language and review grub
[21:20] <lolek> gwildor: you still there?
[21:21] <gwildor> i am
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !grub | pr0nad
[21:21] <Glyn> ActionParsnip: I'm having issues booting into Ubuntu. I tried the xfix command and now all I see is my background image tiled against the background, but nothing else.
[21:21] <lolek> gwildor: i found something odd...
[21:21] <lolek> gwildor: the backlight_control is set to: combination..
[21:21] <azexian> I would like to make my global next song key page up, I cannot do this through keyboard shortcuts because page-up is a reserved key, can I by-pass this somehow?
[21:22] <lolek> gwildor: the gnome applet is changin the value of backlight while i'm moving the scroll
[21:22] <gwildor> even when it isnt focused?
[21:22] <lolek> gwildor: and it's changing here: xrandr --verbose | grep -i backlight
[21:22] <Pr0nad> ActionParsnip, problem is, already did a reboot and dont have the energy to move around my monitor. Also i did grub-install before hand but it returned with errors. Guess i felt lucky
[21:22] <Pr0nad>  grub-install /dev/sda
[21:22] <Pr0nad> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[21:22] <Pr0nad> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> glyn: try booting to root recovery console and editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to tell xorg to use the vesa driver
[21:22] <FloodBot3> Pr0nad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:22] <diddy> I have some problem. I neither have the manual for my TV card nor for my motherboard anymore. I want to connect the audio from my Pinnacle TV card to my motherboard. I found two cables in my drawer. Where to I connect the cable to on the motherboard? I have this board: http://www.pcinlife.com/article_photo/x6800/asus_p5b_deluxe_wifi_ap/asus_p5b_deluxe_wifi_ap_1.03g-01.jpg
[21:22] <lolek> gwildor: those values also changes while i'm plugging /unplugging the power corde..
[21:22] <ipatrol6010> back in a byte
[21:22] <gwildor> diddy, pretty much anywhere it will fit.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> pr0nad:  boot to live CD and run fsck on your drive/s
[21:23] <psi-jack> Heh. I don't get it but everytime I boot the Ubuntu CD's it takes FOREVER to even get to the initial blue screens.
[21:23] <gwildor> lolek, yes, they will , due to power settings.... backlight sucks alot of battery power
[21:23] <IdleOne> can anybody help me figure out why IDJC wont startup?
[21:23] <Glyn> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:23] <lolek> gwildor: but ... with the power cord play ... the screen bright... is changing (visualy the lcd dimms)... but not manually i.e. from code..
[21:23] <psi-jack> And when it has gotten there it's usually been very slow to progress between dialog to dialog.
[21:23] <lolek> gwildor: yeah i know that...
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: try some bootoptions
[21:24] <lolek> gwildor: but i'm still trying to figure out where or what ... is killing the let's say.. comunication with the lcd.. ;/
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | psi-jack
[21:24] <gwildor> have you looked at your pwer optiions.... "on ac power" "on batter power"
[21:24] <lolek> gwildor: in bios or in gnome ?
[21:24] <gwildor> gnome
[21:24] <darrenm_> Hello, can anyone help me with md software RAID not booting since an update to Karmic?
[21:24] <lolek> gwildor: well nope...
[21:24] <gwildor> lolek, you should
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | darrenm
[21:25] <lolek> gwildor: i can change there anything.. the system is doing what it wants..
[21:25] <Pr0nad> Guess the only way is to move around the monitor then :/
[21:25] <darrenm_> Yep I'm a sucker for punishment!
[21:25] <Glax> quick question, what would a /etc/exports line look like if you wanted to export a specific dir to localhost with read/write permissions?  also what would the /etc/hosts.allow look like?  I'm getting denied when trying to mount.
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> darrenm: wrong channel dude
[21:25] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip, Well, I cannot actually SEE the kernel boot up at all so I can't see what exactly would need to be changed.
[21:25] <darrenm_> Ah, which do I need?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> darrenm: #ubuntu+1
[21:26] <darrenm_> Oh thanks. :)
[21:26] <IdleOne> this is what I get when trying to run idjc from terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/253809/
[21:26] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: The only thing I do see, is something about USB not being able to address something, which I think is just my KVM USB director for my keyboard/mouse.
[21:26] <km0t> olaaaaaaaaaa
[21:27] <IdleOne> !es | km0t
[21:27] <gwildor> psi-jack, try plugging direct, its best to eliminate uneeded stuff when solving problems
[21:27] <psi-jack> usbhid 2-1.3:1.1: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint
[21:27] <psi-jack> Yeah, it's that cause I get it everytime I switch. ;)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: its a startpoint
[21:28] <psi-jack> But even the textmode screen, you can literally WATCH drawing.
[21:28] <GuidMorrow> I got wine set up, how do I make it boot autorun CD's
[21:28] <psi-jack> It's doing Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives, and it's still at 0% for the past 30 seconds.
[21:28] <Glax> anyone ?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: try it without the kvm
[21:29] <gwildor> psi-jack, also, try default or optimized bios settings...
[21:29] <IdleOne> Glax, anyone isn't here right now please try asking someone
[21:29] <GPL> GuidMorrow:  i think you shud try #wine-hq
[21:29] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Well, beyond the keyboard and mouse, the only thing else on the KVM is the secondary monitor on VGA, the primary display's on DVI
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> how much ram do you have?
[21:30] <GuidMorrow> GPL: Not on this network
[21:30] <IdleOne> trying to get IDJC to start, when running from terminal I get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/253809/ any help ?
[21:30] <GPL> GuidMorrow: #winehq
[21:30] <GPL> sorry for that.
[21:30] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: This system, has 4gb PC3200 on it, the BIOS reports 3gb, but Dual-Channel & Linear
[21:30] <psi-jack> There we go, it's scanning the CD-ROM now. heh
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: try some CD bootoptions and using bios to disable some unnecessary hardware. to test
[21:31] <br34l> someone spoke about a " pidgin and xchat delay problem " couple of days ago...i think my pidgin have also a little delay, like, i look into buddy list, then off\on, and suddenly there are more ppls online
[21:31] <docgnome> how can i control what effects are used in gnome?
[21:31] <psi-jack> At the moment, I'm having it do a CDROM integrity check.
[21:31] <seany> whats up all
[21:31] <Glax> showmount -e should show all your exported nfs mounts on a nfs server correct ?
[21:31] <psi-jack> Before I try to go through this process, YET again, and it bomb out, hopefully this time it passes.
[21:31] <musikgoat> docgnome: system -> prefs -> appearance
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: why didnt you check it when you first booted to it?
[21:32] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: That's what I'm doing.
[21:32] <docgnome> musikgoat: yeah but that only has the three levels of effects
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: then you wouldnt even be here if the cd was bad
[21:32] <musikgoat> !ccsd | docgnome: if you want more detailed control of effects
[21:33] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Now, that's not true at all. I'm on IRC like, a lot. :p
[21:33] <musikgoat> !ccsm | docgnome: if you want more detailed control of effects
[21:33] <docgnome> thanks
[21:33] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: I'm just trying to try out Ubuntu again after a year of not, I'd been running nothing but OpenSUSE, and now I'm trying out Ubuntu again, cause I'm running it on all my servers..
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack; OS CDs are hugely sensitive to  bit errors and npt checking them and blindly using them is extremely follhardy
[21:34] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Which is ironic. The 9.04 CD burned and installed fine.
[21:34] <docgnome> Is there a way to control the speed at which a panel shows itself when it is set to autohide?
[21:34] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: So far, the only problems I've been having have been with Ubuntu 8.04 and eBox 1.2
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: just ensure you md5 check isos, burn slow and check cd integrity once booted to and you'll be fine
[21:35] <Alvinware> How to install compaq notebook webcam?
[21:35] <psi-jack> Heh, I still don't get why the screen, in TEXT MODE, is so slow to refresh. I'm watching it now CD-ROM Integrity check, and the dialog box keeps redrawing every so often.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: i've had zero issues with Cds due to md5 checks and super compatible hardware
[21:36] <Q_Continuum> Any simple way to share an internet connection from 9.04 Desktop install?
[21:36] <psi-jack> Q_Continuum: Of course. ufw
[21:36] <Alvinware> ActionParsnip, i got error when using gnome easycam2.
[21:36] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | Q_Continuum with firestarter ?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: wait for the check to finish. you still should have done it at the earliest possibility
[21:36] <psi-jack> What the heck? Firestarter is not Ubuntu's recommended method of connection sharing!
[21:37] <Alvinware> erUSUL, I can't connect my webcam.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> alvinware: lsusb will give you an id code, you can websearch that
[21:37] <wmgries> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu Server 9.04 and my WPA2 wifi network. Nothing I put in /etc/network/interfaces seems to work. sudo iwlist wlan0 scan out puts 'No scan results'.  Ubuntu Desktop works with the network just fine.
[21:37] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Dude. I did. This is the 4th CD I've run integrity check on. :p
[21:37] <erUSUL> Alvinware: find out what webcam model you have and if it is supported
[21:37] <Alvinware> Actionparsnip, yes, but i got no id code for webcam, no webcam.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: then try some boot options
[21:37] <psi-jack> Oh! That gives me an idea.
[21:38] <KittyBoots> is there anyone here who can help me with getting an app to work through wine?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> alvinware: then run: dmesg | less   and read the system bootup, see if the cam is seen/installed
[21:38] <psi-jack> I have a USB WiFi adapter. Is it possible to actually use that as a WAP point for other devices, like Laptops, multiples, providing WPA encryption, and not just WPA-PSK but WPA with multiple passwords?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | kittyboots
[21:39] <homovitruvius> diddy: have you figured out where the audio goes? You've a 10pin connector http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8wecy9&s=3 . No line level, only mic.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !ics | psi-jack
[21:39] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Not ICS, I know how to use firewalls. :p
[21:39] <wmgries> @psi-jack, my wireless card is a Linksys PCI card. I've used it in the past with WEP with no problems
[21:39] <Alvinware> ActionParsnip, that give me network, eth.
[21:40] <psi-jack> wmgries: I'm not asking how to make it connect to a WAP. I'm asking if it's possible to MAKE it BE the WAP.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: the factoid relates to connection sharing which is what you question was worded towards
[21:40] <erUSUL> psi-jack: check hostap and if it supports your wifi card
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: you can implement wpa one the sharing is setup
[21:41] <wmgries> @psi-jack, I would prefer not to do it that way because my router supports N and the card in my server is a g card
[21:42] <Alvinware> ActionParsnip,but i got the /dev/video0
[21:42] <psi-jack> erUSUL: Hmmm, interesting.
[21:43] <psi-jack> I mean, granted, at the moment, I have a Netgear WAP, but it only does WPA-PSK, which is prone to possibilities of security issues.
[21:43] <psi-jack> My USB network dongle is also Netgear. heh
[21:44] <Glyn> ActionParsnip: It's not letting me edit it.
[21:44] <habskilla> Wondering if someone can help me with a read only USB drive problem?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: you can implement other secrity in your router. i use wep  but use other for.as of filtering
[21:45] <psi-jack> Yeah, I don't use WEP. It's too insecure for my needs.
[21:45] <psi-jack> WPA, is better, more preferred, and non-public-shared-key would be even better.. Using my own authentication methods to allow only specific users on the WAP.
[21:45] <chalcedny> all my things that i have multiples of - firefox windows, xhchat, gnome terminals .. are making separate icons in my taskbar (bottom bar, whichever it's called) is there a way to make them one icon that opens a list? in ubuntu 9.04
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: works here. using netmasks with weird ip ranges and very restricted ips can help. turn off dhcp too
[21:45] <wmgries> that was my feeling as well but now for whatever reason, ubuntu server doesn't seem to see my network at all. I cant use WEP even if I want to because I can't connect to my network
[21:45] <Alvinware> ActionParsnip, in cheese, i got the colours screen.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> glyn: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:46] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: True, I'm using the built-in Netgear WAP feature to restrict only allowed MACs on WAP.
[21:46] <habskilla> Wondering if someone can help me with a read only USB drive problem?  When the drive mounts it mounts as READ only.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: try a limited subnet too
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> habskilla: is it ntfs?
[21:47] <cyberfin> Can someone please help me: ubuntu 9.04 64bit, normal cable mouse(not bt), A random group of icons from the applications, places and system menu don't launch when left-clicking on them.
[21:47] <[lan3y]> hello i am about to install ubuntu 9.04 64bit, i want to have separate partitions for: /home /usr /var /boot and /tmp what size should i make these partitions? i have a 160gb sata drive.
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> habskilla:  if its ntfs filesystem, install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool (as root) and set it to allow users read/write access to removeable ntfs media
[21:47] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: Hmm, My network is on a /16 block. This is a home network, but I have 8 servers running here.
[21:47] <habskilla> actually, it est
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> [lan3y]:  other then a /home  seperate parttions for the rest are proberly not worth the effort.
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> [lan3y]:  perhaps a /boot (100mb) /home / and swap. (4 primary partitions)
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> psi-jack: good move
[21:48] <habskilla> sorry ext3
[21:48] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: My servers sit on 192.168.1.x and workstations on 192.168.2.x
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> habskilla:  if its ext3 then you MUST mUST MUST set the proper permisions/ownership of the files/directories on the device as if it was an internal hard drive.
[21:49] <DWonderly> what is the channel for Karmic?
[21:49] <Frankwhite> ANY ONE CAN HELP ME HOW TO SET UP THE CUBE ON UBUNTU 9.04 USING VIA CHROME 9 HC
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> habskilla:  and moving the device from one linux box to another. can cause confuseion with the ownership/permissions
[21:49] <superkuh> Is there a way to soft link, or emulate soft linking, such that files on an ntfs-3d mounted NTFS partition appear to be on an ext3 one?
[21:49] <Glyn> ActionParsnip: It opens a "new file". When I was looking around there a minute ago, there doesn't appear to be an X11 directory any more
[21:49] <erUSUL> !caps | Frankwhite
[21:49] <psi-jack> ActionParsnip: My touchscreens and audio/video streaming systems sit on 192.168.10.x
[21:49] <guntbert> I'd like to know what "Check disc for defects" from the install menu actually does. Does it check the files against mdsum.txt in the CD's root?
[21:49] <erUSUL> Frankwhite: no effects with via cards afaik
[21:49] <[lan3y]> Dr_willis, i plan to use a mixture of ext3 and ext4, this is why i would prefer separate partitions,
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> superkuh:  you could use  ln to make links..     (ln -s whatever whever)
[21:49] <habskilla> k..so is there a mount option to fix that?
[21:49] <erUSUL> guntbert: yes; exactly that. checks the md5sum
[21:49] <superkuh> Yeah, I tried that Dr_Willis.
[21:50] <psi-jack> [lan3y]: Curious, why ext4?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> [lan3y]: depends on needs, 10Gb for / is ok, 2Gb swap, rest for home is typical but if you expect lots of data outside of home then it will need to be bigger. there is no clear answer
[21:50] <guntbert> erUSUL: thank you
[21:50] <cyberfin> Can someone please help me: ubuntu 9.04 64bit, normal cable mouse(not bt), A random group of icons from the applications, places and system menu don't launch when left-clicking on them. Pwety pweaze?
[21:50] <DWonderly> what is the channel for Karmic?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> [lan3y]:   I just use ext4 for everything now a days.   Do what you want. You might want to check out the lvm stuff  - but with that small a hard drive. its not hardly worth the effort.
[21:50] <guntbert> !karmic
[21:50] <psi-jack> DWonderly: #ubuntu+1
[21:50] <Frankwhite> No effects with VIA, is there any way to change this
[21:50] <DWonderly> thanks
[21:50] <psi-jack> DWonderly: +1 is always used for the next upcoming release. ;)
[21:50] <[lan3y]> ok thanks
[21:51] <intermaxim> Servus allerseits!
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> cyberfin: if it works when you disa ble desktop effects then it compiz breaking stuff and you should ask in #compiz
[21:51] <DWonderly> psi-jack: lol I was typping - instead of + couldn't figure out why not working
[21:51] <erUSUL> [lan3y]: if you plan to use ext3 do a boot partition to avoid problerms with grub etc... as other pointed out /boot / and /home are more than enough
[21:51] <psi-jack> DWonderly: Ahhhh. heh
[21:51] <psi-jack> DWonderly: Think... posative. ;)
[21:51] <cyberfin> Not due to compiz, already tried disabling it.
[21:52] <psi-jack> Oy.. I hate how slow this installer's going.. Really effing annoying. heh
[21:52] <DWonderly> psi-jack: always my friend. Trying to test the UNR for 9.10
[21:52] <intermaxim> I would like to now how I can change the permissions of folders (I am connected via FTP)
[21:52] <psi-jack> intermaxim: Directories you mean?
[21:52] <erUSUL> cyberfin: very weird... so weird i do not know what may it be... just to let you know you are bieng read...
[21:52] <psi-jack> intermaxim: chmod
[21:52] <intermaxim> ok chmod sounds good, i know that from windows
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> ftp servers have their own commands/features to change permissions  i thoght.. easier to ssh in. :)
[21:53] <cyberfin> I thank you for your attention... :)
[21:53] <intermaxim> but how can i reference the directory
[21:53] <intermaxim> It's online webspace, I have no ssh connection
[21:53] <yyz> ls
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> time to learn to use the ftp clients you got then.
[21:53] <intermaxim> I had filezilla under windows
[21:54] <cyberfin> Oh wait... it is compiz breaking stuff. Tried again (I must have not completely disabled it the first time)
[21:54] <intermaxim> there i could rightclick
[21:54] <Frankwhite> Any way I can change my graphic card, currently using via chrome 9 hc or to get a code to make the cubes work
[21:54] <intermaxim> but if i connect via places, and right click - I cant change anything then
[21:54] <e370> alright
[21:55] <cyberfin> Thank you guys for making me secound-doubt myself :P
[21:55] <e370> noobie here
[21:55] <intermaxim> me too :D
[21:55] <erUSUL> !ask | e370
[21:55] <polter> is it possible to change or modify the GDM theme in Karmic?
[21:55] <e370> thanks
[21:55] <e370> I ask where the drivers are for labtec webcam pro
[21:55] <erUSUL> polter: you can change it
[21:56] <Dvlpr> /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:56] <erUSUL> !webcam | e370
[21:56] <Dvlpr> what can I do to clean that up?
[21:56] <Frankwhite> How can I use the cube with via chrome 9 hc on ubuntu 9.04
[21:56] <polter> erUSUL, how?
[21:56] <erUSUL> Dvlpr: are you running two apps that manage packages ? synaptic + apt in cli ?
[21:56] <erUSUL> polter: system>Admin>Login window
[21:56] <Dvlpr> oh, ye, didnt notice synaptic >__<
[21:56] <Dvlpr> thanks
[21:57] <polter> erUSUL, there are no options for  changing themes and such
[21:57] <simplexio> Frankwhite: if i remember right, you need viachrome driver in X , chech if you are using it and if not add driver section to conf
[21:57] <megra> Dvlpr, you might be forgetting sudo :)
[21:57] <erUSUL> polter: in the second tab
[21:57] <Dvlpr> Can't exec "aclocal": No such file or directory at /usr/local/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 328.
[21:57] <Dvlpr> autoreconf: failed to run aclocal: No such file or directory
[21:57] <erUSUL> polter: i'm seing them right now
[21:57] <Dvlpr> thats what after reinstalling autoconf
[21:57] <Dvlpr> ;o
[21:57] <polter> erUSUL, you did notice I wrote Karmic, right?
[21:57] <erUSUL> polter: then go to #ubuntu+1
[21:57] <psi-jack> Hmmm, blasted!
[21:58] <Frankwhite> simplexio: how do I config if Im not using it?
[21:58] <psi-jack> Why the frack won't Linux use my on-board NIC's at 1000mbit? It's a 3c940 10/100/1000 and it will only connect at 100 not 1000
[21:58] <nickjohnson> Is it possible to netboot the Netbook Remix?
[21:58] <e370> hope so nick
[21:59] <e370> i want to run this on mine
[21:59] <nickjohnson> There doesn't seem to be a netbook remix netboot image, but I'm guessing it's just a matter of passing different arguments to the netboot installer
[21:59] <erUSUL> psi-jack: becouse the other end does not support 1000 Gib ? the switch is 100 MB only ? the autonegotation got it wrong? force it with ethtool
[21:59] <polter> what is the correct thing to do if you have a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org, but it hasn't been looked at in a couple of weeks.. should I file it under Ubuntu on Launchpad too?
[21:59] <Dvlpr> anybody wonna help with autoconf issue?
[21:59] <intermaxim> I have some web space that I can access via ftp. I manage to connect via places. I can upload and download. Now I want to change the Directory permissions of a folder (and all the contents). In Windows I did it with a right-click in Filezilla. If I right click here, it says that it cant figure out the permissions. I tried sudo nautilus, but I can't find the ftp directory mounted anywhere. Can anyone help me please?
[21:59] <simplexio> Frankwhite: dunno is there new way, but old way is nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf (aka edit that file) google finds many examples what you need to add
[21:59] <e370> dvl i need help with my network 2
[21:59] <psi-jack> erUSUL: Negative. The NIC does do 1000, the switch IS 1000.
[21:59] <erUSUL> polter: if it is a bug in a ubuntu package yes you should
[22:00] <psi-jack> erUSUL: And the cables are cat5e 6' cables.
[22:00] <erUSUL> psi-jack: use ethtool to set 1000
[22:00] <polter> erUSUL, ok, well I thought "let's give it to upstream right away to save some time".. but ok
[22:00] <psi-jack> erUSUL: I tried that too, while this system was still opensuse.
[22:00] <simplexio> Frankwhite: and and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep Driver" probably find ehat driver is in use
[22:00] <erUSUL> polter: maybe ubuntu devs can make some pressure...
[22:01] <polter> erUSUL, let's hope so..
[22:01] <intermaxim> Anyone?
[22:01] <e370> wired network is showin up as disconnected but it isn't lol
[22:01] <ruok> c:
[22:01] <e370> ive checked the cable twise
[22:01] <Frankwhite> simplexio: thanks Ill try that
[22:01] <erUSUL> intermaxim: use filezilla in ubuntu too ?
[22:01] <polter> hey if anyone got the time. the bug is about Totem not remembering volume levels between switching streams, or opening another file from nautilus or other app
[22:01] <intermaxim> thanks, I will try that
[22:01] <polter> if someone wants to confirm
[22:01] <simplexio> psi-jack: mii-tool tell you negotiated speed, i had problem in one point which were fixed when i changed cable
[22:01] <diddy> Where is the /etc/modprobe.conf on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[22:02] <edbian> diddy: in /etc/modprobe
[22:02] <psi-jack> erUSUL: I have an nForce2 NIC, onboard as well, that also won't go 1000, but oon the ssame system, same cable, same switch, a Linksys Gigabit PCI card, will do it.
[22:02] <edbian> diddy: in /etc
[22:02] <psi-jack> simplexio: Yeah, read what I just told erUSUL.. :)
[22:02] <simplexio> psi-jack: correcting.. i changed 1G nic which i connected line .. for some reason marvel couln't negotiate right speed with nforce
[22:02] <guntbert> diddy: /etc/modprobe.d
[22:02] <erUSUL> psi-jack: nvidia does crappy hard? ;P
[22:03] <guntbert> diddy: its a directory :-)
[22:03] <e370> anyone else had the same problem with it saying the wired network has been disconnected?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> I recall having issues with marvel NIC's also.
[22:03] <simplexio> psi-jack: you coul try to force speed
[22:03] <psi-jack> erUSUL: That doesn't explain why the 3c940 doesn't work like it should as well, completelty different system.
[22:03] <ruok> c:
[22:03] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Yeah, Marvell, that's what the 3c940 is.
[22:03] <erUSUL> psi-jack: the driver for nforce nicks is not the best one you can find in linux kernel...
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> thats using the sky3 module? i forget...
[22:03] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: sk98lin or skge
[22:03] <ruok> love u  =)
[22:04] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: In OpenSUSE sk98lin was the default to use, but also blacklisted in modules.d
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  yep. thats it skge.. i used to get constant erorr messages in dmesg as the system ran.
[22:04] <Trar> LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
[22:04] <ruok> lol
[22:04] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Heh. Interesting.
[22:04] <malko> hi
[22:04] <ruok> Trar: yep
[22:04] <diddy> guntbert, there is no modprobe.conf in the dir modprobe.d
[22:04] <malko> i ve got a black screen
[22:04] <malko> its  horrible
[22:04]  * ruok 
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> so i plugged in some cheaper NIC and just left the onboard  (the skge one) alone.
[22:04] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: I don't recall ever getting errors, but .... I didn't check either, so.. I just got a Gigabit switch from a friend, in hoping to get a full gigabit network going internally, because I do a /lot/ of video/audio streaming.
[22:04] <erUSUL> diddy: you use the various files under /etc/modprobe.d/ to do what modprobe.conf does
[22:05] <simplexio> malko: sure if you are afraid of dark
[22:05] <edbian> diddy: Do you understand file paths?  /etc/modprobe.d
[22:05] <malko> i have a DELL latitude 5500 LAPTOP
[22:05] <edbian> diddy: It's in /etc
[22:05] <Trar> AAAA
[22:05] <erUSUL> diddy: you want to blacklist  a module...?
[22:05] <edbian> diddy: modprobe.conf is in /etc
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  yea - i got all my stuff upgraded to GB speeds now as well. (I think) the hard drives are now the bottle neck
[22:05] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Probably end up  having to do the same,. though I'm going to try FreeBSD out and SEE if they have the issue working, or if it's just that bad a situation, or if it's Linux alone.
[22:05] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Yeah, HDD's is why I LVM stripe 3-4 HDD's together to get the speed out. ;)
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  i think my sky2 card is  100speed only. :) so i dont have the same issue.
[22:06] <guntbert> diddy: but a lot of conf files, look at the contents
[22:06] <simplexio> psi-jack: LVM stripe ? how thts different to software raid?
[22:06] <edbian> !lvm
[22:06] <psi-jack> simplexio: It's LVM managed, which allows me to do snapshots on the fly live.
[22:06] <e370> anyone else had the same problem with it saying the wired network has been disconnected?
[22:06] <erUSUL> simplexio: in no important way,... the kernel has duplicate funcionality there
[22:06] <simplexio> psi-jack: i have heard that lvm makes it slow
[22:06] <psi-jack> simplexio: Mind you, they're compressed snapshots, too, which is VERY useful. ;)
[22:07] <psi-jack> simplexio: You heard wrong.
[22:07] <Catalan_37> i can't check the sound of bell con gnome-terminal
[22:07] <psi-jack> simplexio: LVM Linear, which is what most distros that BARELY support LVM only do, like Ubuntu.
[22:07] <psi-jack> simplexio: But LVM Striping properly setup, is amazingly fast. ;)
[22:07] <ruok> u are a buteful snowflake
[22:08] <edbian> psi-jack: Do I need 2 identical drives to LVM?
[22:08] <psi-jack> edbian: Nope.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> I normally need more room.. not more speed. :)
[22:08] <edbian> psi-jack: Mmm
[22:08] <guntbert> ruok:  do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:08] <psi-jack> edbian: Two identically sized partitions on two drives, yes.
[22:08] <ruok> o ya hang on
[22:08] <edbian> psi-jack: I C.  Thank you
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> lvm stripe my 2 external usb hard drives.. :)  to get useable speed!
[22:09] <DJNomad> i have searched google for a bit about networking wiblows and ubuntu and what i have tried does not allow me to see windows files ,i dont need to acess linux from blows but do ubuntu >windoz
[22:09] <ruok> how to u open the menues
[22:09] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Heh.. I thought about doing that, but my Seagate 500gb USB, is pretty dang fast with XFS alone.
[22:09] <bucky> edbian: do you need two identical drives or partions for raid ?
[22:09] <simplexio> psi-jack: i run software raid5 with dmcrypt(which kills performance)
[22:09] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Course, it IS solid-state, not platter.
[22:09] <DJNomad> anyone know of a good tutorial?
[22:09] <edbian> bucky: That is my understanding yeah.
[22:10] <edbian> bucky: You need 2 identical drives.
[22:10] <psi-jack> simplexio: Yeah, softraid by itself, is slow. fakeraid too. dmcrypt is your ultimate killer, and probably not even worth it for what you're doing.
[22:10] <simplexio> bucky: for software raid you need 2 same sized partition.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> Solid state drives are getting.. almost (and just almost) affordable. :)
[22:10] <DJNomad> or anyone know correct phrase to goole ?
[22:10] <edbian> bucky: Go with what simplexio said.  My knowledge comes from Tiger Direct Employees which apparently are not as reliable as I thought!
[22:11] <erUSUL> !samba | diddy
[22:11] <erUSUL> !samba | DJNomad
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> DJNomad:  you need to use samba to set up a samba server to 'share' files/directories from linux to widnows.
[22:11] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Yeah, ALMOST.. I thought about getting a series of 50gb Solid States, and RAIDing them together with striping, cause the speed on those Seagate SS drives, on the lower capacity ones, are amazing.
[22:11] <DJNomad> i love tiger direct
[22:11] <erUSUL> diddy: sorry not meant for you
[22:11] <automan070192> hey i downloaded the latest flash player and it wont work it installs it just wont play anything
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> DJNomad:  theres books on the topic in the 'samba-doc' package
[22:11] <simplexio> psi-jack: well when i tested it without crypt it was faster than disks alone, and it makes easier to handle all those disk (4x1T hds)
[22:11] <automan070192> any suggestions\?
[22:12] <edbian> automan070192: Make sure you only have 1 flash player installed.  Start testing on youtube.
[22:12] <psi-jack> simplexio: So, why dmcrypt, anyway? Do you have any possability of someone physically stealing the HDD's in the system?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> theres secure.. then theres paranoid. :)
[22:12] <lenny0815> Noch ne Frage. Wenn man mal googelt scheint es Kontroverse Diskussionen zur Verwendung von OpenType Fonts unter OOo zu geben. Fakt ist, ich kann derzeit bei Version 3.0.1 (Ubuntu 9.04) keine otf nutzen. Wo kann ich den offiziellen Status dazu nachlesen?
[22:12] <DJNomad> Dr_Willis,  how do i get that and thanks
[22:12] <Guest10194> automan070192: On firefox?  always try a full uninstall/reinstall
[22:12] <ruok> this sentence is about you reading it
[22:13] <simplexio> psi-jack: just for fun and to underline my opinion about current state of local laws
[22:13] <lenny0815> Aww, sorry. Wrong channel :(
[22:13] <thelostfaith> I'm running jaunty and I'm trying to consistently mount my ipod classic (80g)
[22:13] <erUSUL> !ipod
[22:13] <thelostfaith> The situation is 50/50 at best. Sometimes it'll mount automatically, some times it wont.
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> DJNomad:  the package name is 'samba-doc' and samba and its ussage is documented in 1000's of places online. In short ' install the samba package' set workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf,   give users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'  -  let user make some shares...
[22:13] <psi-jack> simplexio: Ahh, finland has some issues with encryption?
[22:13] <GuidMorrow> !wine
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[22:13] <simplexio> psi-jack: and then there is few friends who use it backups so i have no idea what they put in there so, i played it safe
[22:13] <guntbert> ruok: please stop typing random sentences
[22:13] <GuidMorrow> WINE DOES NOT WORK
[22:13] <ruok> :c
[22:13] <simplexio> psi-jack: no encryption but ip laws
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  wine works for me.
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | GuidMorrow
[22:14] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | GuidMorrow
[22:14] <psi-jack> simplexio: The only time dmcrypt is useful is if there's any possability of physical theft of the drives.
[22:14] <GuidMorrow> I tried to start The Sims 2 but all it does is load a popup launcher, and then the window just vanishes
[22:14] <DerKlempner> anybody here have some insight to .htaccess files in Apache?
[22:14] <automan070192> it doesnt work it says i need to upgrade and i already did
[22:14] <simplexio> psi-jack: unlike GB, here we dont get jail time if we dont give keys to police
[22:14] <erUSUL> GuidMorrow: check the appdb entry for the sims 2
[22:14] <psi-jack> simplexio: Sheash.
[22:14] <thelostfaith> erUSUL, it wont mount period
[22:14] <guntbert> DerKlempner: ask in #httpd please
[22:14] <GuidMorrow> where's that
[22:14] <Guest10194> GuidMorrow: well its not perfect, winedoors is pretty good for games, or play it on linux
[22:14] <Root2> Issues, just upgraded my computer's HDD from 80 to 120GB and now 9.04's update manager doesn't download updates.
[22:14] <DerKlempner> guntbert: thx
[22:15] <psi-jack> simplexio: One reason I am actually proud to be an American.. Note, only 1 reason. ;)
[22:15] <DJNomad> Dr_Willis,  thak you again
[22:15] <Root2> after a reinstall that is
[22:15] <psi-jack> simplexio: I will say though, it's sad to hear Finland is pushing such laws.
[22:15] <erUSUL> thelostfaith: sorry pointing you to the docs is all i can do.. do not have an ipod myself
[22:15] <kevdog> Whats Finland doing with encryption?
[22:15] <ruok> help me with ubuntu pls
[22:16] <thelostfaith> erUSUL, no worries. Its just kind of bugging me. I'd rather have the drive consistently say "no thanks", than randomly allowing/disallowing a mount.
[22:16] <guntbert> ruok: what is your problem?
[22:16] <simplexio> psi-jack: its allowed, british have problem with that
[22:16] <psi-jack> simplexio: OH! I see. Cool then.
[22:16] <ruok> its not worekig right
[22:16] <GuidMorrow> can't find the package "winedoors"
[22:16] <DJNomad> wow
[22:16] <simplexio> thelostfaith: usually it disallows mount/umount if you are using it
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> ruok:  you really need to be more verbose/concise and specific.,
[22:17] <ruok> :c
[22:17] <Seany> wine-doors?
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  winedoors is a specifi front end to wine for playing some games/tweaks - its not in the repos.. check google for its homepage. (i recall)
[22:17] <thelostfaith> simplexio, it wont. Normally sometimes it would appear on the desktop but it always ran into problems mounting/dismounting
[22:17] <psi-jack> Oi! This installer is SOOOO effing slow for Ubuntu's Alternate installer on this system.. it's insane!
[22:17] <ruok> its the menus
[22:17] <Seany> GuidMorrow: I think its better to just boot into windows for games :)  or a VM if you have the RAM
[22:17] <Root2> Anybody else having issues with the package manager NOT downloading or checking for updates?
[22:17] <ruok> how to u open them
[22:17] <e370> does hulu only work in the US?
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> http://www.wine-doors.org/
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> e370:  yes. i think so.
[22:18] <guntbert> ruok: you click on them
[22:18] <flithm> hey everyone... how do I move the gnome panels from one screen to another on a multi-display setup?
[22:18] <e370> great thanks
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> flithm:  alt-click on the panel , drag.
[22:18] <flithm> Dr_Willis: thank you!!
[22:18] <GuidMorrow> virtual machine? does it require a separate partition
[22:18] <ruok> my mouse not working
[22:18] <Root2> Launching update manager, it checks but waits forever. No issues with my ISP because I can use firefox and this IRC channel.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> flithm:  that gets askead about once a week. :) heh
[22:18] <Seany> GuidMorrow: No, but you need plenty of RAM, what is your computer specs
[22:19] <GuidMorrow> 1.7GB available to the system
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  a virtual machine like virtualbox - has virtual hard drives.. so NO.. it does not need its own parittion
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  time to clean out some stuff if you are down to under 2gb i think
[22:19] <ruok> how to u open the menus my mouse is not working
[22:19] <duvnell> my DVD won't open whether I run eject cdrom as root, nor if I press the physical button.  There is no CD currently in the drive.   I can reboot and it will work normally, but after about 12 hours it gets back into this broken state again
[22:19] <duvnell> any ideas?
[22:19] <GuidMorrow> can't it use disk space?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  a virtual 'disk' is saved to a file.. so it does use disk space.
[22:20] <Seany> GuidMorrow: You could try VirtualBox for VM of XP to run games.  I don't know Sims's required spec, but you shouldn't go over half your RAM for a VM
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  time to read the virtualbox docs - if you want to use virtualbox. it explains all this.
[22:20] <thelostfaith> Any recommendations on a fs to format an external to?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  depends on what you are going to do with it.
[22:20] <psi-jack> thelostfaith: Choose a filesystem and go with it.
[22:20] <thelostfaith> Media/backup
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  if its for linux, and wont get moved about a lot.. use ext2/3/4
[22:21] <a1> i am on the top of the list
[22:21] <thelostfaith> It'll get disconnected/reconnected
[22:21] <psi-jack> thelostfaith: I actually like XFS more these days.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> if it will be shared with windows box = ntsf/vfat
[22:21] <Pharsalus> I recommend EXT3 just because it's so stable, but it's really up to you.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> moving ext2/3/4 from one linux box to another can be a bit of a bother...
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> but notthing a real man cant handle! :)
[22:21] <thelostfaith> I'm in for any/all opinions. I'm just a nub who can't get their damned ipod to mount correctly
[22:21] <GuidMorrow> !qemu
[22:22] <duvnell> rsync -av is great
[22:22] <simplexio> Root2: check if your browser is using proxy, apt uses http and if your isp forces proxy use you nee dto configure it
[22:22] <_saber> Hey everyone, is it possible to run scripts, python maybe, while still at the GDM login screen?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  if you want a game to play best in linux. wine is the way to go normally.
[22:22] <duvnell> _saber: manually?
[22:22] <frankie1976> Hola a todos desde Puerto Rico.
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> _saber:  depen ds on what you want the scripts to  be doing.
[22:22] <thelostfaith> I never thought about emulating for my ipod
[22:22] <_saber> duvnell: automatically
[22:22]  * thelostfaith ponders
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> _saber:  gdm is just one program.. the whole sytem is still running   :) you can make  it do whatever you want.. some how.
[22:23] <duvnell> _saber: like to run something at boottime?
[22:23] <frankie1976> Algun hispano en la sala?
[22:23] <_saber> Dr_Willis: For example maybe a face recognition script?
[22:23] <psi-jack> !es
[22:23] <DJNomad> Dr_Willis,  thanks agian I am gonna logout adn go study this networking thing ,God Bless
[22:23] <Root2> never mind, IT'S WORKING! server delays might've been the issue
[22:23] <Root2> @duvnell check to see if the motor is working right
[22:23] <Root2> I had a faulty drive
[22:23] <Root2> a motor opens/closes the tray
[22:23] <Root2> if it dies, you'll have to use a paperclip to open the drive manually.
[22:23] <FloodBot3> Root2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Root2> Consider opening it up and moving the tray's gears by yourself
[22:23] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: vbox / qemu are bad choices if you want to run games that need 3d accel.. i think vbox supports only opengl.. i didnt get any 3d games work under it last time i tried
[22:23] <_saber> duvnell: Not at boottime, but just rather in the login screen itself.
[22:23] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: you should try use wine
[22:23] <frankie1976> Gracias!
[22:23] <a1> how to u open the menus
[22:23] <psi-jack> frankie1976: De nada
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> _saber:   you have such a script?  gdm has features to run secific programs...  but  sounds like you have a more specific task in mind.
[22:23] <Seany> GuidMorrow: I agree, VM's are a last resort.
[22:24] <legend2440> a1: Alt+F1
[22:24] <guntbert> a1: alt+f1 should work
[22:24] <a1> dose it work for the main menu
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> a1 try it and see? it works here.. (alt-f1)
[22:24] <guntbert> a1: and then you use the cursor keys
[22:24] <zeno_> update manager has taken 2 hours installing flashplugin.  kill it?
[22:25] <a1> thank you dr wilis
[22:25] <simplexio> virtual machines are nice, currently using buntu in vbox on visva machine.. i used linux desktop two years so im used to all these advanced features which linux offers
[22:25] <_saber> Dr_Willis: Well if it is possible to run scripts when the login screen shows up, then I would be able to start programming it. But right now I don't know whether it is possible.
[22:25]  * GuidMorrow installs qemu
[22:25] <a1> good bye
[22:25] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: i recommend virtual box
[22:25] <GuidMorrow> how do I clear this Wine install?
[22:25] <psi-jack> VirtualBox is awesome, purist.
[22:25] <_saber> Dr_Willis: Like rather than putting a password, you can have a face recognition to log in.
[22:25] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: latest binary version has some support for 3d
[22:25] <GuidMorrow> ?
[22:26] <psi-jack> I love the VirtualBox seemless mode, and how it will virtually resize the windows resolution on the window size of the virtualbox window itself.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> _saber:  that will need more then just a 'script' i imagine.
[22:26] <psi-jack> I've not seen ANY other virtual-machine ever do that.
[22:26] <Seany> GuidMorrow: apt-get uninstall wine?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> _saber:  perhaps google on that topic and see whats being done in that area.
[22:26] <Oli``> GuidMorrow: clear it? you can just move or rename ~/.wine and you'll start afresh
[22:27] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: rm ~/.wine removes wine "virtual" filesystem
[22:27] <GuidMorrow> I uninstalled wine, it's still in the applications menu as a "blank" folder instead of the "wine" symbol
[22:27] <GuidMorrow> !virtualbox
[22:28] <_saber> Dr_Willis: will do, thanks
[22:28] <silameth> Hey guys
[22:28] <DasEi> GuidMorrow: did you purge it ?
[22:29] <GuidMorrow> how do you purge an "application" menu entry?
[22:29] <silameth> Anyone available?
[22:29] <Seany> silameth: heya
[22:29] <sysdoc> Hey guys is xchat in the repos for the 64 bit ubuntu 9.04?
[22:29] <silameth> Hey how's it going
[22:29] <Seany> silameth:  just wasting time.
[22:29] <legend2440> GuidMorrow: right click Applications>edit menus
[22:29] <simplexio> GuidMorrow: system->user prefs ->main menu
[22:30] <silameth> Seany: just showing my wife a little about IRC
[22:30] <Seany> silameth: welcome to the underground =)
[22:30] <sartan> hello... does the ubuntu installer support software raid and lvm?  I'm looking to change from centos to ubuntu, and i'd like not to lose a few select partitions.
[22:30] <silameth> She was curious...I am slowly corrupting her away from winblows
[22:30] <DasEi> GuidMorrow: it's an addition;; sudo apt-get remove --purge  >packet<, that cleans congig, too;; if you use wine*  --dry-run, can see what gets deleted
[22:31] <DasEi> sartan : yes, use alternate installer
[22:31] <simplexio> sartan: if you allready have them, yes
[22:31] <silameth> Seany: so where ya from?
[22:31] <Seany> silameth: cool; show her full screen terminal IRC and toggling between the tty1/2/3/etc :)
[22:31] <GuidMorrow> entry purged
[22:31] <DasEi> sartan : make sure you choose manual partitoning
[22:31] <sartan> alternate? thanks
[22:31] <Seany> silameth: I think this is more of a tech chat; not chit chat, no offense.
[22:32] <silameth> later.....lol start her out with pidgin
[22:32] <DasEi> !alternate | sartan
[22:32] <sartan> guys, i wouldn't have been able to figure that out without asking here, cheers. :)
[22:32] <kevdog> Opinions on the koala bear release thus far?
[22:32] <kevdog> >)
[22:32] <StupidWeasel> [amsg] Bored & going to find something fun to do. Goodnight folks.
[22:32] <Seany> silameth: So how are you going to convert her, trial by fire, or ?
[22:32] <sartan> and i suppose there's few disadvantages to using the alternate installer? are there any groupinstall packages and such i won't be able to use later?
[22:33] <simplexio> sartan: not any that i know
[22:33] <sartan> (sorry for dropping a yum term) - i.e. yum install groupinstall desktop to drop on gnome, x, etc.
[22:33] <silameth> Seany: first get her used to everything then throw her to the sharks...lol
[22:33] <sysdoc> Hey guys is xchat in the repos for the 64 bit ubuntu 9.04?
[22:33] <sartan> fantastic
[22:33] <kevdog> Just thought I would pass along to the group that I found a cool way with Pidgin, Google Talk, and SMS to text back and forth between Pidgin and a cell phone -- very convenient
[22:33] <Seany> silameth: I'm big on VM's she could use that in full screen :D
[22:34] <silameth> Seany: the only thing really stopping her is photoshop....she doesn't like gimp
[22:34] <silameth> Well Adobe products period
[22:34] <simplexio> silameth: wine + photoshop CS2 works
[22:34] <Seany> silameth: I think wine can handle photoshop or at  least my friend uses Photoshop /w wine
[22:34] <AegisRising> kevdog: how do you do that?
[22:34] <sartan> does ubuntu keep wine relatively up to date?
[22:34] <sartan> centos is still at 0.9x
[22:35] <silameth> that means having blows on the box...I am going MS free
[22:35] <Seany> silameth: this computer stil lhave a bootable xp partition, but rarely gets used.
[22:35] <DasEi> !latest | sartan
[22:35] <silameth> And I don't think she wants to go back to CS2 ....Has CS 4
[22:35] <DasEi> !info wine | sartan
[22:35] <kevdog> AegisRising:  You need pidgin, a gtalk account, and see this page:http://snarfed.org/space/google_talk_sms+pidgin+plugin -- Way cool plugin that works both in Windows and Linux -- just in case people are running multiple boxes like me
[22:36] <Seany> silameth: how about Mac ;)
[22:36]  * kevdog thinks wine actually sucks, is slow, and usually is worthless
[22:36] <sartan> DasEi: it's typically 'bad mojo' to screw with compiling packages for centos, are there build templates for ubuntu so i could upgrade to a shiny new wine?
[22:36] <sartan> whatever the dpkg framework is.... folder structure, post install scripts
[22:36] <silameth> Seany: we live in the poorest state in america
[22:37] <Seany> silameth: which is..
[22:37] <silameth> can't afford a big dog like Mac
[22:37] <AegisRising> kevdog: thanks for that!
[22:37] <silameth> Mississippi
[22:37] <terquilino> utah?
[22:37] <simplexio> california?
[22:37] <Seany> silameth: No i'min utah and utah isn't poor haha
[22:37] <guntbert> !ot
[22:37] <DasEi> sartan: yes, go to wine - hp;; for further support join #winehq
[22:37] <Seany> silameth: anyway; run linux with a xp VM for CS4 needs?
[22:37] <kevdog> AegisRising: I was thinking about making a tutorial on the forums -- Not that I did any of the work, but just to pass the word along -- I find it really cool!!!!
[22:37] <sartan> DasEi: Not realy asking for wine support, just more on how feasible it is to screw with this under ubuntu. seems like it's going to be ok
[22:38] <FloridaGuy> how do i get usb working in virtualbox? in ubuntu 9.04
[22:38] <sartan> Thanks for your tips and links, they are helpful.
[22:38] <orochi> How would I go about switching the default Java plugin for Firefox 3.5 to the one provided by Sun's official packages? It doesn't show up in update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9.1-javaplugin.so
[22:38] <AegisRising> kevdog: I think you should, would really help everyone
[22:38] <DasEi> sartan: no issue, own risk XD
[22:38] <bucky> sartan: why build wine when you can add winehq's repo and apt-get the latest shiniest wine http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[22:38] <silameth> Seany: I was hoping someone in here would help me ween her of BLOWS....not offer her options
[22:38] <sartan> bucky: slick, dude, another amazing tip :)
[22:38] <Seany> FloridaGuy: Do you have it turned on in the settings?  While the VM is up, right click the USB icon on the bottom right, you can activate USB devices in there.
[22:38] <guntbert> FloridaGuy: you need vbox PUEL for that (OSE doesn't support usb)
[22:39] <guntbert> !vbox | FloridaGuy
[22:39] <silameth> hey guys, i'm filling in for silameth. i'm celticpath
[22:39] <kevdog> AegisRising:  Maybe tonight I'll write it up -- It will allow me to remember how to do it when I crash the box -- Oh by the way Dossy's Character Counting Plugin is a really nice addition to the above since it counts characters and allows you to know when you are approaching the 140 character limit
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> FloridaGuy:  you need the vrualbox program/packages from the vbox homepage.. not the one in the repos for USB support
[22:39] <Seany> silameth: not everything works in linux so the anti-windows attitude can have adverse effects!
[22:39] <simplexio> FloridaGuy: and nonfree is free for personal use ( it just isnt gpl)
[22:39] <silameth> just for a minute though, my dad is having loud vehicle issues outside
[22:39] <petchaw> lol
[22:39] <FloridaGuy> guntbert, i have the full...i unstalled ose
[22:40] <GuidMorrow> when you make a disk for the virtual machine, does it define a file system like NTFS, FAT32, etc?
[22:40] <kaddi> is there way to upgrade from gutsy to jaunty directly or do I need to update through every release?
[22:40] <GuidMorrow> or will it barf if you try to setup an OS?
[22:40] <simplexio> FloridaGuy: look that howto, you may need to define usbusers user group or similiar
[22:40] <Seany> GuidMorrow: I don't believe so, the install of the OS would
[22:40] <guntbert> then just right click on the usb icon at the bottom of the window and select the device you want
[22:40] <silameth> Seany: lol well, it's not just adobe that i use, it's also bryce, poser, etc. i'm a graphic designer and 3d artist
[22:40] <Seany> FloridaGuy: no luck in the GUI? i was stuck there forever and it was an easy right click...
[22:41] <kevdog> AegisRising:  Here is an additional link to the character counting plugin that you might find useful: http://dossy.org/2007/10/character-counting-plugin-for-pidgin/comment-page-2/#comment-121663
[22:41] <silameth> Seany: but i have been enjoying linux for the most part
[22:41] <Seany> silameth: I think struggling to make it work could be fun; for work/business, i would rather have something that it is designed.
[22:41] <simplexio> silameth: and btw.. if those programs dont need 3D accel, you can use virtualbox for running windows ( and you need windows lisence )
[22:41] <AegisRising> kevdog: thank you and do it! being able to connect online with your phone is obviously more useful everyday
[22:41] <Seany> silameth: designed for
[22:42] <guntbert> FloridaGuy: then just right click on the usb icon at the bottom of the window and select the device you want
[22:42] <DasEi> GuidMorrow: the install of a vm is similar to a native install, so is the filesystem
[22:42] <guntbert> !upgrade | kaddi
[22:42] <simplexio> silameth: vbox offers few nice option for ppl who virtualize windows, like snapshot which you take soon after you have installed all stuff you want.. after that you can always return to that point if something goes wrong
[22:43] <FloridaGuy> Seany, the usb icon wont do anything
[22:43] <Jaha> Hello peoples
[22:43] <silameth> Seany: I'll have to tell silameth about that
[22:43] <simplexio> FloridaGuy: i think you need to first close vmachine, then go to settings and slect what usb goes where
[22:43] <guntbert> !welcome | Jaha
[22:43] <GuidMorrow> wth?  how long does it take for this disk to make a 128 GB filesystem?
[22:43] <FloridaGuy> simplexio, settings where
[22:43] <Seany> FloridaGuy: check that the usb controller is checked under settings while the VM is off.
[22:44] <Seany> silameth: he won't like that answer.
[22:44] <silameth> Seany: lol yeah i know
[22:44] <kaddi> guntbert, yes I'm already on that sight.. but it only says upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and I was wondering if that is, because it's the only possible way or because that is the most common way
[22:44] <kaddi> *site even
[22:44] <DasEi> FloridaGuy: type of os  (the vm) ?
[22:44] <Seany> silameth: what would be nice is a 2 computer setup, then you could just remote to the windows computer :D
[22:45] <Jaha> So ubuntu netbook remix or easy peasy?
[22:45] <simplexio> FloridaGuy: vbox
[22:45] <FloridaGuy> i found it
[22:45] <silameth> Seany: like he said, VNC that biotch... lol
[22:45] <e370> can someone help me? my Wired network card is showing up as disconected, it was working fine for 30/40 mins then a little box showed up saying "you have been disconnected" ever since it just shows up as disconnected, the wire works fine, any ideas?
[22:45] <GuidMorrow> btw, is there a way to tell if this thing is amd64 or i386? For some reason everything is being treated like 32-bit
[22:45] <simplexio> FloridaGuy: after you select virtualmachine, up there is settings button -> there is usb on left side
[22:45] <GuidMorrow> !amd64
[22:46] <ryan_> eit
[22:46] <ryan_> exit
[22:46] <pottedmeat> what is best software bluray player?
[22:46] <guntbert> kaddi: look at the 2nd link http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:46] <Seany> silameth: i still use my windows for ipod syncing and guitar recording.
[22:46] <bastidrazor> GuidMorrow, uname -m
[22:46] <FloridaGuy> ok now working
[22:46] <silameth> Seany: you play guitiar?
[22:47] <Seany> silameth: I am right now.
[22:47] <silameth> Seany: that's cool. i wish i could play. i had one when i was a kid, but never really learned how to play
[22:47] <silameth> Seany: i just sing
[22:47] <FIREBRAND> hi
[22:47] <Seany> silameth: stop wishing, and do! go to linux, play guitar
[22:48] <guntbert> !welcome | FIREBRAND
[22:48] <erUSUL> !ot | Seany silameth
[22:48] <kaddi> guntbert... I missed the first line... I went through the entire installation with all the "to install 9.04 from 8.10" ... :/
[22:48]  * Seany joins #thevoid
[22:48] <silameth> ubottu: sorry 'bout that , i'm a noob
[22:49] <silameth> ttyl guys thanks for the chat :)
[22:49] <Seany> later
[22:49] <DasEi> !brain > silameth :)
[22:49] <kroson> hi people
[22:49] <CopyWriter> !flash
[22:49] <kroson> im having a trouble here with karmic alpha 4
[22:49] <b0nn> hrm, when I try to launch firefox I get the following error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 618: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!
[22:49] <DasEi> !karmic | kroson
[22:50] <kroson> ah ok
[22:50] <CopyWriter> anybody else have frequent crashes when viewing flash content
[22:50] <CopyWriter> it's been driving me nutz
[22:50] <Seany> CopyWriter: I do with epiphany more than firefox
[22:50] <CopyWriter> i'm using firefox
[22:50] <DasEi> CopyWriter: no issues here, system updated/graded,  distro ?
[22:50] <CopyWriter> installed the ubuntu restricted extras
[22:50] <Seany> CopyWriter: i noticed things with sound will kill mine
[22:50] <GuidMorrow> hey, how can you tell if you're using 64-bit Ubuntu
[22:51] <CopyWriter> everything upgraded
[22:51] <CopyWriter> i even uninstalled flash and reinstalled
[22:51] <CopyWriter> and same thing
[22:51] <CopyWriter> did with the restricted packages too
[22:51] <DasEi> GuidMorrow: uname -a
[22:51] <CopyWriter> only firefox left to try with
[22:51] <CopyWriter> i got the adobe-flash and the flashnonfree
[22:51] <_Maximus> I tried to connect my usb hdd ("My Passport" by WD) to my old desktop and for some reason it keeps connecting and disconnecting every 2 seconds; moreover, I can not see it nor access it; but it works just fine on my recent laptop, using the usb_storage
[22:52] <Seany> CopyWriter: have you tried a different browser to make sure its firefox?
[22:52] <CopyWriter> installed did i do something wrong
[22:52] <DasEi> !flash | CopyWriter
[22:52] <_Maximus> anyone could please give me a hint?
[22:52] <CopyWriter> i installed the gnash too
[22:52] <iziezal> does anyone know how i do this?  "Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config (soundcore module, default turn on)"
[22:52] <orochi> hmm...doesn't seem to be any progress on the icedtea/firefox 3.5 plugin bug yet :<
[22:52] <GuidMorrow> it says "i686", what is that supposed to mean?
[22:52] <DasEi> _Maximus: let's have a look..
[22:52] <DasEi> GuidMorrow:32 bit
[22:52] <erUSUL> GuidMorrow: 32 bit
[22:53] <GuidMorrow> :(
[22:53] <_Maximus> DasEi, what do you mean?
[22:53] <GuidMorrow> crap ... does this mean I have to burn a new disc and install over
[22:53] <DasEi> _Maximus:open a trml ..
[22:53] <_Maximus> k
[22:53] <DasEi> _Maximus:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:54]  * psi-jack sighs.
[22:54] <psi-jack> Ubuntu's installation seems to be stuck on "Preparing libwnck22"
[22:54] <psi-jack> It's been preparing for the last 5 minutes.
[22:54] <Jaha> meow
[22:54] <psi-jack> Who let that cat in here?
[22:54] <DasEi> _Maximus:sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:54] <DasEi> _Maximus:give url  from trml here
[22:55] <Forza4Life> i got my webcam working a couple days ago
[22:55] <hans-peter> Hallo, was muss ich hinter #ubuntu eingeben für deutschen chat ?
[22:55] <e370> is it me or are solid state drives really expencive....
[22:55] <DasEi> hans-peter: #ubuntu-de
[22:55] <iziezal> does anyone know how i do this?  "Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config (soundcore module, default turn on)"
[22:55] <Seany> e370: no they are more expensive, no moving parts!
[22:56] <hans-peter> Danke
[22:56] <erUSUL> iziezal: that is already done in ubuntu kernels
[22:56] <DasEi> _Maximus: ?
[22:56] <_Maximus> DasEi, one second please
[22:56] <DasEi> k
[22:56] <e370> cheapest one is twise the amount i paid for my netbook
[22:56] <Pr0nad> So managed to repair grub, anywho so how do can I tell which drive is currently running ubuntu?
[22:56] <GuidMorrow> what is "SendQ Exceeded"?
[22:56] <erUSUL> iziezal: are you compiling your own kernel ?
[22:57] <CopyWriter> if i uninstall the adobe flash and install the swfdec do i have to uninstall the restricted extras too?
[22:57] <iziezal> erUSUL, ok thanks. no im not. im trying to get my sound working by installing the package from the realtek site
[22:57] <psi-jack> Blah! Yeah, totally fscking stuck on "Preparing libwnck22" on installation.
[22:57] <iziezal> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/m3990ba33 'snd-xxxx is the card ID.' how do i find out my card id?
[22:57] <bhnbfhg> Discuss anything anonymously without registering an account at the only place on the Internet where grammar, spelling and punctuation actually matters: http://www.anontalk.com/ (or https://www.anontalk.com/ for immediate encryption). A definite bookmark for every smart Internet user! (This has been a public service message; NOT spam.)
[22:57] <GuidMorrow> !
[22:57] <psi-jack> Nice! And just kernel panicked when activating a console!
[22:57] <DasEi> CopyWriter: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    tried ?
[22:57] <e370> not spam lol
[22:58] <CopyWriter> i did that too, same thing
[22:58] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I've been trying to get my Bluetooth USB dongle to work but it doesn't want to work properly.
[22:58] <erUSUL> iziezal: lspci | grep -i audio
[22:59] <Ertain> My system sees it and loads the btusb module.  But when I use a program like "lswm" it says there's no bluetooth interface found.
[22:59] <skazi21101> какой(каким) приложением(командой) можно проверить разрешения на папки? скопировал локальный профиль из старой системы в новую и теперь почти все ругается на разрешения
[22:59] <sartan> wow, irssi displays that.
[22:59] <CopyWriter> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[22:59] <e370> Ertain: i never even installed any drivers ubuntu did it all for me :S
[22:59] <psi-jack> skazi21101: English, not giberrish.
[22:59] <CopyWriter>   libboost-thread1.34.1 libboost-date-time1.34.1 libnss3-dev libnspr4-dev
[22:59] <CopyWriter> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[22:59] <_Maximus> DasEi, I need to reboot, I'll be back in a while, sorry
[22:59] <CopyWriter> i did that command again and got this
[22:59] <FloodBot3> CopyWriter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <DasEi> CopyWriter: you rstarted the browser after ?
[22:59] <e370> thats greek
[22:59] <th0r> !ru
[22:59] <iziezal> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/m6461315b so snd-Intel Corporation 82801JI ?
[22:59] <Ertain> If anyone's wondering I have a "Broadcom Corp. A-Link BlueUsbA2 Bluetooth".
[22:59] <CopyWriter> yes i did
[23:00] <Celtic1> Ok guys, I am having a problem.  My computer seems to be acting laggy when navigating through windows and when navigating through webpages.  I know it has something to do with my graphics card, however, when I try updating my driver via the "hardware driver", it updates fine but after rebooting and trying to access the "buddy list" and such as?pps it begins to freeze my cpu.  Any suggestion
[23:00] <CopyWriter> restarted the pc after as a matter of fact
[23:00] <Ertain> Hello Wiiguy.
[23:00] <skazi21101> ou. sorry. i thiught i write to ubuntu-ru
[23:00] <DasEi> CopyWriter: you got an error ? paste it
[23:01] <skazi21101> which program or comand can fix rights on files in my home path? i copied it from my old system and everything says that there is errror with user rights on files
[23:01] <CopyWriter> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required libboost-thread1.34.1 libboost-date-time1.34.1 libnss3-dev libnspr4-dev Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[23:01] <erUSUL> iziezal: HD Audio Controller --> snd-hda-intel
[23:01] <DasEi> Celtic1: check top or htop for what consuming so much load
[23:02] <iziezal> erUSUL, thanks
[23:02] <th0r> skazi21101: chown and chmod
[23:02] <skazi21101> ﻿th0r: chown will fix it&
[23:02] <CopyWriter> did the autoremove let me try again
[23:02] <DasEi> CopyWriter: thats no error, just needless packages
[23:02] <GuidMorrow> I wonder why that random user that posted that message said that thing wasn't spam when IT WAS!
[23:02] <CopyWriter> ah ok
[23:03] <th0r> skazi21101: might be that the wrong person owns the files, then use chown to change the owner. But might be that the files have the wrong permissions, use chmod to change the permissions
[23:03] <erUSUL> !ru | skazi21101
[23:03] <e370> whats with all this russian
[23:03] <GuidMorrow> !jp
[23:03] <CopyWriter> i think i remove the adobe flash and installed the swfdec but youtube said i needed to install flash
[23:03] <FIREBRAND> O.o
[23:04] <GuidMorrow> yep, utf-8 support works, if not you're missing some packages
[23:04] <arbir> hello
[23:04] <godmodegrafix> hi
[23:05] <iziezal> erUSUL, in http://pastebin.com/m3990ba33 it says 'Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution' i get this http://pastebin.com/mdc0c07e
[23:05] <GuidMorrow> I'm wondering about these hard drives, do you have to "defragment"
[23:05] <sartan> this chan goes way too fast.. =/ I'll be back
[23:05] <guntbert> !defrag | GuidMorrow
[23:05] <FIREBRAND> hey has happened to anyone that when you try to mount the usb, appears on the screen a message saying that you cannot mount the volume?
[23:06] <arbir> how can i burn an iso to an usb stick so that i can use the usb stick as my installer ? i tried the script isotostick and i am getting this error
[23:06] <arbir> ./isotostick.sh: line 42: udevinfo: command not found
[23:06] <erUSUL> iziezal: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf <<<< maybe ?
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> arbir:  use 'unetbootin' is what i normally do.
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> arbir:  where did that script come from?
[23:06] <DasEi> FIREBRAND: yes, try mount/clean mount on win machine or use force option on own risk
[23:06] <DasEi> *clean unmount
[23:06] <iziezal> erUSUL, k one sec
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> theres no 'udevinfo' on ubuntu that i can find.
[23:06] <arbir> Dr_Willis:  i got that script 1 year back from the Ubuntu forums somewhere. it used to work for me
[23:07] <CopyWriter> going to try installing seamonkey
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> !find udevinfo
[23:07] <GuidMorrow> arbir: use the USB startup disk creator
[23:07] <DasEi> !iso | arbir
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> arbir:  if its a ubuntuiso you want to put on flash.. use unetbootin, or that usb-startup-disk-creator
[23:07] <GuidMorrow> wait...
[23:07] <DasEi>  arbir: use usb-creator
[23:07] <x3cion> is there a way to set environment variables for a app started with start-stop-daemon?
[23:07] <FIREBRAND> 'aright thanks for the info.
[23:07] <arbir> DasEi: what is usb-creator ?
[23:08] <DasEi> !info usb-creator
[23:08] <arbir> i dont run ubuntu linux at the moment, i dont have that package
[23:08] <DasEi> arbir : it lets you install to a bootable usb drive , either from cd or a iso on hdd
[23:09] <arbir> DasEi: this will let me create a live USB , which i can boot with and install ubuntu, right ?
[23:09] <DasEi> arbir : unetbootin, see above and :
[23:09] <DasEi> usb
[23:09] <DasEi> !usb
[23:09] <TannerS> blah ubuntu is acting fking gay all day today
[23:09] <TannerS> fresh install and i jsut keep runing into problems
[23:10] <DasEi> arbir : yes, but from a running ubuntu-system (the usb-creator), see above link for your situation
[23:10] <guntbert> !ohmy | TannerS
[23:10] <iziezal> erUSUL, in http://pastebin.com/m3990ba33 it says 'Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the distribution' then it shows the text underneath it, above 'Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or /etc' so they want me to copy and paste the line that starts with '-- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ' into 'alsalbase.conf?
[23:10] <Jaha> so whats the word on the streets?
[23:10] <TannerS> ahh how was it languaage and abuse towrds others?
[23:10] <TannerS> lol
[23:10] <DigitalCrypto> Java evil
[23:11] <niko> !coc | TannerS
[23:11] <DigitalCrypto> !pizza DigitalCrypto
[23:11] <DigitalCrypto> :(
[23:11] <billenium> Has anyone had trouble with Adobe Flash on 64bit ubuntu??
[23:11] <TannerS> ahh ok..
[23:11] <guntbert> !botabuse | DigitalCrypto
[23:11] <TannerS> billenium i have
[23:11] <erUSUL> iziezal: no; the other lines the ones that begin with # ALSA portion
[23:11] <iziezal> erUSUL, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85581 it says its '/etc/modules'
[23:12] <billenium> TannerS: how did you fix it?
[23:12] <shauno> I wonder how many people just searched ubottu for pizza
[23:12] <DigitalCrypto>  /msg ubottu Pizza!!!1
[23:12] <TannerS> billenium u mean get it working?
[23:12] <guntbert> DigitalCrypto: behave please
[23:12] <billenium> TannerS: yes sir
[23:13] <TannerS> billenium pm
[23:13] <iziezal> erUSUL, so y were they telling me about 'snd-xxx is the card if they didnt want me to copy and paste or do anything with what's above '# ALSA portion'
[23:14] <erUSUL> iziezal: you have to replace the snd-xxxx in the paste with the card id
[23:16] <arbir> i got the script to work :-) with a few hick ups
[23:17] <iziezal> erUSUL, so they wwant me to change that line in the modules.conf that they provided?
[23:17] <iziezal> erUSUL, ok wait i think i understand this now
[23:17] <iziezal> erUSUL, i wish i could find that file though
[23:18] <LinuX2half> Have anyone here know how to use NetSurf?
[23:18] <CopyWriter> it's officially not the firefox browser that's the problem, flashing is crashing on seamonkey too
[23:19] <arbir> thanks a lot guys
[23:19] <CopyWriter> any ideas what i should do guys
[23:19] <thelostfaith> If mtab is saying a drive is mounted in a certain directory, how come I can't see it under 'computer' ?
[23:20] <DasEi> CopyWriter: which distro ?
[23:20] <DasEi> !version
[23:20] <psi-jack> During Ubuntu 8.04 installation, is there a way to NOT use the framebuffer for the Alternate install?
[23:21] <DasEi> psi-jack: yep
[23:21] <iggi> Is anyone familar with the error that after you install ubuntu and write grub to the MBR, the system boots to just a black screen that says "GRUB" No menu, no errors, just says GRUB, not even grub stage 2.
[23:21] <psi-jack> Ohhh, how? Cause I think that's seriously slowing this down.
[23:21] <DasEi> psi-jack: can alter this later, too
[23:21] <CopyWriter> Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
[23:21] <CopyWriter> codename hardy :)
[23:22] <CopyWriter> sounds all super secret stuff
[23:22] <DasEi> CopyWriter: I see, when nothing is said I speak for jaunty, the actual one, haven't tried on 8.04 for longer, mention this next time
[23:22] <psi-jack> DasEi: So, how would I do it?
[23:23] <CopyWriter> gotcha, i can install it literally withing thehour
[23:23] <psi-jack> I'm at the CD boot now, waiting. heh
[23:23] <CopyWriter> i'm testing out the distro before a full migrate
[23:23] <DasEi> CopyWriter: do you use ati-graphics ?
[23:23] <CopyWriter> i use the nvidia latest restricted drivers that popped up
[23:24] <DasEi> psi-jack: I'm lazy to figure that out particuallary, but in : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  you can change it, too
[23:24] <CopyWriter> don't know if it's the same thing
[23:24] <jexd> when i wake my laptop from suspend or hibernate it asks me for a password. i want it to simply wake up without need for authorization. how do i do thsi?
[23:24] <psi-jack> DasEi: Ummm. dpkg-reconfigure isn'
[23:24] <psi-jack> DasEi: Ummm. dpkg-reconfigure isn't available during installation. :p
[23:24] <GuidMorrow> ugh hurry up already! all this is doing is waste time and disk space
[23:24] <psi-jack> I asked about DURING installation, how to disable the framebuffer FOR installation using the Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate Install CD.
[23:24] <StrangeCharm> how can i extract a bunch of .gz files in a directory?
[23:24] <CopyWriter> DasEi you think if i install jaunty this will solve the flash problem
[23:25] <DasEi> CopyWriter: nvidia, so, I ask that because hardy in opposite to jaunty still supported ati better;; consider a :
[23:25] <iziezal> erUSUL, i dont know what to do. i want to install this driver but neither /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules exist
[23:25] <iggi> tar -zxf *.gz ?
[23:25] <DasEi> !dist-upgrade
[23:25] <CopyWriter> it wouldn't be a problem for me, this is a relatively new install
[23:25] <CopyWriter> ok i'm going to start the install now
[23:25] <CopyWriter> be back in after to let you know how it went
[23:26] <Celtic1> How do you install stuff such as drivers?
[23:26] <GuidMorrow> is there anything in there about upgrading from i686 to AMD64
[23:26] <Celtic1> I have one I DLed that I need to install
[23:26] <DasEi> CopyWriter: I think the problem is somewhere else, but as I don't run it and havent tried in a vm for longer, look for a 'hardy one or try upgrading, see above (always backup important data before)
[23:27] <psi-jack> Okay, I'll ask again.
[23:27] <lstarnes> GuidMorrow: you have to do a complete reinstall in order to switch from 32-bit to 64-bit
[23:27] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[23:27] <thelostfaith> If mtab is saying a drive is mounted in a certain directory, how come I can't see it under 'computer' ?
[23:27] <chid> how do I disable beeps?
[23:27] <DasEi> psi-jack: It runs at the end of install, and also can run it manually afterwards
[23:27] <chid> 9.04
[23:27] <psi-jack> DasEi: Did you EVEN read my question, at all?
[23:27] <csudsu> rage
[23:27] <erUSUL> iziezal: the doc may be out of day
[23:27] <psi-jack> DURING installation, how to disable the framebuffer FOR installation using the Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate Install CD.
[23:27] <lstarnes> psi-jack: try sudo modprobe -r fbcon
[23:28] <DasEi> psi-jack: you aske dif the installer allows you decision of framebuffer/graphics
[23:28] <csudsu> psi-jack raging will get you some awesome answers
[23:28] <psi-jack> lstarnes: sudo, and modprobe, are NOT available during boot of the Ubuntu 8.04 Alternate CD
[23:28] <csudsu> cause you know, the help here is paid
[23:28] <Jaha> where can i find out if my computer is i386
[23:28] <psi-jack> csudsu: Neither is stupid people not even reading my fscking questions and giving totally unrelated answers.
[23:28] <psi-jack> Seriously.
[23:28] <csudsu> cry about it
[23:28] <csudsu> this is free support
[23:29] <DasEi> Jaha: uname -a
[23:29] <lstarnes> Jaha: or check /proc/cpuinfo
[23:29] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Hey, you around?
[23:29] <lstarnes> Jaha: uname -a will only tell you what your current kernel has
[23:29] <Jaha> hmmm
[23:29] <cochilion> hi
[23:29] <Jaha> kk thanks
[23:30] <cochilion> have a problem with amarok playback, i have just installed and dont play mp3
[23:30] <cochilion> what should i do?
[23:30] <lstarnes> psi-jack: try using the option "nofb" when booting
[23:30] <ma11011> Jaha: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm (is there is an lm flag, you have an 64bit machien0
[23:30] <psi-jack> lstarnes: From what I'm just now reading, the actual option seems to be: debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[23:31] <DasEi> cochilion: ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ? amarok-plugins ?
[23:31] <Oceanic> cochilion, install the xine codecs
[23:31] <Oceanic> or that :) ignore me
[23:31] <DasEi> !bootoptions | psi-jack
[23:31] <iggi> Anyone familiar with grub refusing to boot by thorwing out just "GRUB" to the screen, but no errors?
[23:32] <xnockout> help me!!!
[23:32] <DasEi> iggi : no , I#d try to reinstall grub
[23:32] <DasEi> !details | xnockout
[23:33] <psi-jack> DasEi: Yeah, that's what I was looking for earlier, at the least. I ended up having to find it using links, which has been my problem, I have no X at the moment, browsing is a pain. heh
[23:33] <iggi> DasEi: im going to try again, I did once already
[23:33] <DasEi> psi-jack: lynx ?
[23:33] <psi-jack> DasEi: lynx would be worse than links. :p
[23:33] <iziezal> erUSUL, i found a thread about my exact issue and noone has responded http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040522
[23:33] <DasEi> iggi: super-grub-disk is a very handy tool
[23:33] <xnockout> ubottu: icant download gstreamer ffmpeg video plugin for my ubuntu fiestyfawn
[23:33] <lstarnes> psi-jack: maybe w3m or links2 -g
[23:34] <lstarnes> xnockout: feisty is no longer supported.  You really should upgrade
[23:34] <psi-jack> lstarnes: Ooh, good idea!
[23:34] <DasEi> !feisty | xnockout
[23:34] <xnockout> lstarnes:how
[23:34] <DasEi> !eol
[23:34] <psi-jack> lstarnes: Maybe it'll work on my router that's not even in fbcons mode. ;)
[23:35] <lstarnes> xnockout: installing a new version might be the safest method
[23:35] <raj> any idea if magic jack works in ubuntu in USA?? help
[23:36] <billenium> I have youtubes volume all the way up, ubuntus volume all the way up, and my speakers volume all the way up... but it still isn't that loud. On windows the same youtube video would be like... EXTREMELY CRAZY LOUD if i had the same settings. Can anyone help?
[23:36] <lstarnes> xnockout: another way would be the method described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[23:36] <Einar> Hello
[23:36] <psi-jack> Well, installation is definately flying a lot faster display-wise, but still slow to load between sections.
[23:36] <xnockout> lstarnes: thanks
[23:36] <psi-jack> It's funny. On this system, OpenSUSE's installer ran perfectly fine, but Ubuntu is running like, painfully slow on the installer. No reason why it should be, especially in text mode.
[23:37] <raj> billenuim I have the same problem too .. i can't figure it out .. except have u tried to increase the master volume and output on the mixer?
[23:37] <Einar> can anyone help me putting up dualveiw on Asus 9600GT ?
[23:38] <spO> hi
[23:38] <Oceanic> billenium, type "alsamixer -c 0" in terminal
[23:38] <spO> do you guys install any supplemental packages to help with automounting usb drives?
[23:38] <xnockout> Einar: WOW...
[23:38] <psi-jack> spO: Curious, I notice you're on Verizon FIOS.. Is it "all that?"
[23:38] <biovore> Einar: installed the nvidia driver?
[23:38] <Einar> i Cant install the driver. i have install EnvyNG
[23:39] <billenium> Oceanic: how do i work this crazy thing? haha
[23:39] <spO> what is fuse?
[23:39] <_Maximus> DasEi, I'm back
[23:39] <xnockout> Einar: nv-glxnew???
[23:39] <Oceanic> billenium arrow keys
[23:39] <jexd> how do i disable the password authentication on wake from suspend or hibernate? so after i open my lid, it doesn't ask for a password, it just wakes up?
[23:39] <spO> psi, what do you use ?
[23:39] <erUSUL> spO: no; no aditionla packages are needed on a ubuntu install
[23:39] <billenium> ah
[23:39] <_Maximus> DasEi, are you still up?
[23:39] <DasEi> _Maximus: fine
[23:39] <DasEi> no
[23:39] <biovore> Einar: Asus 9600GT -> Nvidia 9600GT card?
[23:39] <spO> erusul, what do you use?
[23:39] <Einar> Yes
[23:39] <psi-jack> spO: I use Brighthouse in Florida, which is RoadRunner, 15mbit down, 3mbit up.
[23:39] <_Maximus> DasEi, I've rebooted, since a friend of mine suggested something
[23:39] <lstarnes> spO: it's a system that allows adding new filesystem types to linux without having to build custom kernel modules and without needing root access
[23:39] <erUSUL> spO: ?
[23:39] <DasEi> _Maximus:does it work now ?
[23:40] <spO> psi-jack , http://www.defefx.com/fios-deals/
[23:40] <spO> psi-jack fios is probably better than whatever everyone else is using
[23:40] <psi-jack> spO: Well, the reason I was asking you, is because you're the only one I know actually using it. ;)
[23:40] <biovore> Einar: you should be able to install nvidia's driver..  its in the repo.. nvidia-glx-173 and nvidia-kernel-common
[23:40] <raj> Billenuim DID it work?
[23:40] <_Maximus> DasEi, I've a big usb hdd and a small one, and I run the system from the big one; I was suggested to start the system from a ubuntu cd and only have the usb hdd that does not work connected to the computer
[23:41] <Lunis> wow. so ubuntu netbook remix completely breaks gnome for any other use.
[23:41] <GuidMorrow> where the heck is that Auto Capture Keyboard option in VirtualBox?!
[23:41] <_Maximus> DasEi, unfortunately it did not work either
[23:41] <psi-jack> Holy crap! FIOS has 50mbit/20mbit?
[23:41] <_Maximus> but I saved the dmesg file
[23:41] <biovore> Lunis: they have a better system in 9.10 then 9.04 for UNR
[23:41] <spO> psi-jack, i have 20mbit down and 5 mbit up
[23:41] <DasEi> _Maximus:so you're back on the big one and have the small attachhed ?
[23:42] <psi-jack> Oh heck, I want them to hurry up and get to my area!
[23:42] <_Maximus> DasEi, yes, back on the big one, the small one is offline for now
[23:42] <psi-jack> 50/20 is awesome.  Heck even 25/20 would be awesome.
[23:42] <psi-jack> Or, 25/15 rather.
[23:42] <Lunis> biovore: yeah i really liked the idea for a focused programming...but i hate that it completely wrecks gnome
[23:42] <Lunis> ^focused programming enviroment
[23:42] <DasEi> _Maximus:plug it in, then trm l :  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinti
[23:42] <DasEi> _Maximus:plug it in, then trm l :  sudo fdisk -l | pastebint        *
[23:43] <psi-jack> spO: Curious.. For their TV, do they just use Sat, or do they do it over the wire? Florida, Satelite, not worth the trouble, at all.
[23:43] <spO> my configuration of 20/5 has been replaced/updated with the 25/15 configuration, and i would have to pay 10 bucks more if i wanted that, but i don'tw ant more money
[23:43] <x3cion> is there a way to set environment variables for an app started with start-stop-daemon?
[23:43] <biovore> Lunis: yeah.. it designed for netbooks.  So can't really do all that fancy stuff.. the simplified the interface down alot..
[23:43] <erUSUL> !ot | spO psi-jack
[23:43] <spO> erusul, what do you use for auto mounting?
[23:43] <DasEi> _Maximus plug it in, then trm l :  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit        , to be more precise
[23:43] <Lunis> biovore: yeah my wife uses it on her Aspire One...it's great, and it uses compiz without problem, but on my lappy it's crap. gnome shell would be better, and that's sad
[23:44] <spO> lstarnes, is FUSE good for when you plug in a new usb drive?
[23:44] <_Maximus> DasEi, here is the dmesg from the live cd with the small usb hdd only: http://pastebin.com/f36c69418
[23:44] <lstarnes> spO: fuse isn't an automounting system
[23:44] <spO> lstarnes, what are the practical uses of FUSE?
[23:44] <_Maximus> DasEi, yes, I'll do that too
[23:44] <erUSUL> spO: nothing special... it just works out of the box
[23:44] <psi-jack> Automounting is usually handled partially by hal, isn't it?
[23:44] <lstarnes> spO: it can be used to easily implement new filesystem formats or do certain things with a filesystem interface
[23:45] <_Maximus> DasEi, see starting from 247.777210
[23:45] <copywriter> guys, shoud i download and test karmic koala
[23:45] <spO> you mean hal from 2001?
[23:45] <erUSUL> spO: fuse is filesystems in user space and allows wxactly that you can writte fs drivers in userspace which is easier than writting a kernel driver
[23:45] <copywriter> or just wait
[23:45] <copywriter> i'm excited
[23:45] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: How advanced of a user are you?
[23:45] <erUSUL> spO: ntfs-3g the driver linux uses for ntfs is fuse based
[23:45] <Lunis> biovore: i never managed to get any incarnation of fglrx to work either. i never had this much problem in Intrepid :/
[23:46] <sy1> Hi
[23:46] <copywriter> pretty much an experimenter
[23:46] <sy1> How is every one ?
[23:46] <lstarnes> spO: the Hardware Abstraction Layer
[23:46] <qdii> hello. Compiz is running right now, and everything's working right. I want to know which kernel module is responsible for the 3D rendering , how can I know that ?
[23:46] <Wonko_> Sorry to interrupt, does anyone know where applications I install are stored when I use Synaptic while running 9.04 inside Windows XP?
[23:46] <_Maximus> DasEi, the fdisk -l here: http://pastebin.com/f23cfcf33
[23:46] <sy1> I am Simon Yee
[23:46] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: Then give it a shot; what's the harm?  Worst case roll back, and don't keep data you care about on it. :)
[23:46] <billenium> When I am on youtube, the player becomes are greybox all of a sudden... Before then it worked fine (played videos) now ALL flash-related-objects are grey.
[23:46] <Shadow121> Hey everyone, If i want to become a ubuntu member where can i log my actions with the community?
[23:46] <copywriter> i am comfortable tinkering around with distros
[23:46] <sy1> I just wonder about the Ubuntu Windows
[23:46] <erUSUL> qdii: depends on the card
[23:46] <Lunis> biovore: it's the new version numbering system in the new Xorg, i found out, but I can't find a fix :(
[23:46] <lstarnes> spO: it automatically handles some hardware-related configuration
[23:46] <erUSUL> !member | Shadow121
[23:46] <sy1> the panels keep changing back and forth and always cannot sit still how do I make it sit still
[23:46] <copywriter> ok should i go with the alpha 1 or a daily build
[23:47] <qdii> erUSUL: well that computer is a laptop, with a poor intel graphic chipset inside
[23:47] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: When I had just one machine (and this was before virtualization really struck it big) there was no way in the world I'd run a non-release OS.
[23:47] <raj> billenuim JUST reinstall flash .. that would be the easiest way :)
[23:47] <Shadow121> ubottu:  Thanks
[23:47] <steven_> anyone get wow working under ubuntu?
[23:47] <lstarnes> qdii: you can use lsmod to get a list of loaded kernel modules
[23:47] <copywriter> good idea, i can install jaunty and use virtual box to run kaola
[23:47] <psi-jack> WoW.. Bleh.. Waste of time, money, and CPU cycles.
[23:47] <savanny1976u> Hi, everyone. It has 24 hours since I installed "Radeon HD (Pci ex),(1GB),(3DDR) 4850" to My Media center 2005 using "Samsung 25,5 inch Lcd ( SyncMaster T260HD).. First I tried Ubuntu 9.04 I ended up with black screen. Tried every solution existed on the net with nothing. I decided to delete to 9.04 and install 8.04 my graphic card wasn't even recognized by "Hardware Drivers". So i decided to upgrade to 8.1, here I'm standing in front
[23:47] <savanny1976u> of my "White screen of death"can not access "Ubuntu 8.1". Can someone please help me?? Thank you..
[23:47] <DasEi> _Maximus : shows just one drive, can lsub find it ?   lsusb | pastebinit
[23:47] <Lunis> steven_: it's considered platinum with WINE
[23:48] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: copywriter That's usually the best solution.
[23:48] <Lunis> steven_: it's been working very well for quite some time now
[23:48] <copywriter> or i could just install jaunty on my desktop and pretty much experiment on this laptop
[23:48] <erUSUL> qdii: not usre i think that intel uses the genric drm module
[23:48] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: I don't trust non-release OSes; been burned too many times doing that.
[23:48] <copywriter> thanks guys
[23:48] <copywriter> you've not failed me yet
[23:48] <Kelder> sure steven_, even though it was a while ago.. wow should be very doable.. the only problem is when your guild uses ventrillo or w/e
[23:48] <steven_> that depends psi... if you enjoy playing its not a waste of time
[23:48] <cochilion> have a problem with amarok playback, i have just installed and dont play mp3
[23:48] <cochilion> what should i do?
[23:48] <KB1JWQ> copywriter: There's always next time. :-)  There's a separate channel for karmic.
[23:48] <KB1JWQ> !karmic | copywriter
[23:48] <copywriter> gotcha
[23:48] <erUSUL> cochilion: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:48] <sy1> SAvanny did you try and look the Mediubuntu repository?
[23:48] <steven_> cool ill have to givbe it a try
[23:49] <_Maximus> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/f31fbc748
[23:49] <cochilion> erUSUL: i have just installed and still the same
[23:49] <DasEi> savanny1976u: boot in safemode, try : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:49] <steven_> ill have no use for winblows if thats th e case
[23:49] <psi-jack> Okay. Now, since I can't get my 3c940 onboard NIC to go 1000mbit, what are good Linux-supported PCI NIC's that can do it proper?
[23:49] <_Maximus> DasEi, no, lsusb does not find it
[23:49] <Kelder> steven_: it should work with wine from the winehq repositories without further changes.. so make sure you get the latest wine, and then you should only have to change a few options in your ini files, like using opengl instead of dx
[23:50] <psi-jack> So far, a Linksys Gigabit can, but I'm not too fond of Linksys by any means, so I'm curious if Netgear's Gigabit NIC's are worth it.
[23:50] <savanny1976u> Syt, I can't access to my Desktop, I have a white. Is there other way to access rep?
[23:50] <DasEi> _Maximus : strange,  but the drive is on and spinning ?
[23:50] <_Maximus> DasEi, but I can hear that the device is constantly shutting down and restarting
[23:50] <Lunis> what are the chances that fglrx from intrepid would work in jaunty?
[23:50] <_Maximus> DasEi, yes, spinning but stopping and starting again
[23:51] <DasEi> _Maximus : aharr, also when data( usb ) is unplugged ? has it a seperate powerline or is it a 2.5 ""  ?
[23:51] <Einar> Can anybody help me with Nvidia problem i think i have tryd it all... still not working aftur many hours google
[23:51] <_Maximus> DasEi, what is more weird is that it works on the laptop
[23:51] <x3cion> is there a way to set environment variables for an app started with start-stop-daemon?
[23:51] <spO> hal is not automounting my usb drives,  i am going to try to reinstall it
[23:51] <spO> what doy ou think?
[23:51] <_Maximus> DasEi, it's a 2.5"
[23:51] <_Maximus> DasEi, all goes on the usb
[23:52] <DasEi> _Maximus : aharr, is your board set to supply +5V ?
[23:52] <sdv00> anyone kno how to fix 'kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot' on boot?
[23:52] <lstarnes> spO: reinstalling rarely does anything
[23:52] <_Maximus> DasEi, that
[23:52] <lstarnes> sdv00: you can safely ignore that
[23:52] <_Maximus> DasEi, that's a good one, is there any way I check that out withouth checking the bios?
[23:52] <lstarnes> sdv00: that always appears if you start without hibernating
[23:53] <sdv00> lstarnes: so how do i bypass this?
[23:53] <DasEi> _Maximus : first check if usb is enabled in bios, secondly many boards have jumpers on it where you can set steady or dynamic usb supply
[23:53] <lstarnes> sdv00: you don't need to
[23:53] <sdv00> lstarnes: i login via cmd prompt?
[23:53] <sdv00> lstarnes: then what sudo reboot?
[23:53] <sdv00> lstarnes: cuz that doesnt work >_<
[23:53] <nzmm> Hi i was wondering:  Is there a Gnome way to automount drives on login?  Or should i just edit fstab?
[23:53] <_Maximus> DasEi, and which one do I need?
[23:53] <lstarnes> sdv00: that always appears unless you hibernate first
[23:54] <erika1984> hi all
[23:54] <lstarnes> sdv00: that message comes from not finding a resume image for coming out of hibernation
[23:54] <DasEi> _Maximus : both, reading dmesg now, second
[23:54] <Einar> Anyone ?? cant get dualveiw working
[23:54] <savanny1976u> DasEi, you mean Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[23:54] <lstarnes> sdv00: it is not an error, it is just an informative emssage
[23:54] <lstarnes> *message
[23:54] <sy1> Savanny maybe it is an overheated graphics card
[23:54] <duvnell> I've got a collection of DVDs and now a giant harddrive that I want to rip them too and watch them from... is there an all-in-one rip&watch solution for me?
[23:54] <erika1984> How do i find my fat 32 partion i have dual boot system
[23:54] <sdv00> lstarnes: :O is it possible to hiberate via cmd prompt?
[23:54] <DasEi> savanny1976u: can do so, too and login, see:
[23:54] <DasEi> !x
[23:55] <lstarnes> sdv00: I'm not sure
[23:55] <djzn> hello, will EXT4 be the default filesystem for Karmic ?
[23:56] <sdv00> lstarnes: then how would i tell my comp to hiberate >_<
[23:56] <lstarnes> djzn: questions about karmic go to #ubuntu+1
[23:56] <erika1984> can someone tell me
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[23:56] <FloodBot3> Jigfischer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <lstarnes> sdv00: do you need it to hibernate?
[23:56] <cochilion> have a problem with amarok playback, i have just installed and dont play mp3
[23:56] <erika1984> both the linuxan fat partions are on the same hard drive
[23:56] <Shadow121> Ubuntu Membership calls for a "Personal Wiki Page".  How do i set that up?
[23:56] <sdv00> lstarnes: i have no idea.. kinda confused. i thought u said the error shows because i need to hiberate?
[23:57] <psi-jack> Sheash./
[23:57] <lstarnes> sdv00: not because you need to hibernate
[23:57] <lstarnes> sdv00: ignore the message
[23:57] <lstarnes> sdv00: all it means is that it's not resuming from hibernation
[23:57] <sy1> I think never to leave on hibernate
[23:57] <erika1984> helloi
[23:57] <sy1> some cGraphics card cannot turn back on
[23:57] <sdv00> lstarnes: well what do u mean by 'ignore' it.. at boot i enter a cmd prompt view.
[23:57] <sy1> this could be sign of hardware problem
[23:58] <erika1984> how do i access my fat 32 partion from ubuntu
[23:58] <spOO`> what was my disconnect message?
[23:58] <lstarnes> sdv00: act as if you did not see the message
[23:58] <sdv00> lstarnes: i tried rebooting/shutdown same thing
[23:58] <lstarnes> sdv00: are you unable to use the system normally?
[23:58] <DasEi> _Maximus : dmesg also can only enumerate one device, probably because of the power-prob; also your main-hd needs checking
[23:58] <sdv00> lstarnes: nope, just a cmd prompt/terminal view
[23:58] <nzmm> Does Gnome have a way to automount a drive on login, or should i stick to editing fstab?
[23:58] <sdv00> lstarnes: clearly if i was able to, id probably knew wat u mean by ignore ;/
[23:58] <lstarnes> sdv00: look for another error.  that message about the resume image most likelyw would not have a problem
[23:59] <sdv00> lstarnes: ok give me a sec to reboot n see the entire error
[23:59] <Qube> Hi all, I was just offered a new linux-image-virtual in my Jaunty install: current 2.6.24-19-virtual - so I did apt-get
[23:59] <_Maximus> DasEi, I did not attach the small usb hdd at boot time
[23:59] <Qube>                    install linux-image-virtual but it didn't install a virtual kernel - it installed 2.6.28-14-server   - is this
[23:59] <Qube>                    meta-package broken?
[23:59] <lstarnes> sdv00: you can use dmesg to see the full kernel log
[23:59] <_Maximus> DasEi, why do you say my main hdd needs a check?
[23:59] <DasEi> _Maximus : to check sda, run live cd, have (big) hd not mounted, run : sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sda
[23:59] <Qube> a trace of my install is here: http://codepad.org/iMvTh7YX
[23:59] <sdv00> lstarnes: would it matter if im using a different distro of ubuntu? ex. kubuntu/edubuntu/etc?
[23:59] <lstarnes> spO: when reporting something to a channel, it is considered rude to leave before recieving a reply