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muxfrHi00:22
muxfrThe panel down there disappeared, how can I make it appear again?00:22
ToStItOs_I think the command after you hit alt and F2 is xfce4-panel00:24
muxfrnothing appeared00:25
muxfrbut the command didn't return an error though.00:25
ToStItOs_hmmm try it again00:25
muxfrnot yet00:26
yelloowfireDo you have the upside panel?00:26
muxfrya there's a panel up there.00:26
yelloowfireClick with the left button - New panel, put downside...00:27
ToStItOs_yellowfire: Why does that happen?00:28
yelloowfireAcidental delete... I did it...00:28
ToStItOs_I have done it too what headache00:28
yelloowfireYeah...00:29
muxfrthere's no "new panel" option.00:29
yelloowfireWait some time00:29
muxfr?00:30
ToStItOs_wouldn't it be under customize panel when you right click?00:31
yelloowfireOk, click left button ON DESKTOP, configurations thing (Mine is PT-BR) and add panel.00:33
muxfrWhen I press the + button after custimize panel, I get a new launch button on the desktop not a panel.00:33
ToStItOs_I am trying to remember00:34
yelloowfireOps, wrong again, ok, now it MUST work: Left button on upside panel - Personalize (remember mine is in portuguese - I'm not sure) And add panel (+ button)00:35
ToStItOs_yellowfire doesn't he need to go to customize panel then click on move freely ?00:35
yelloowfireFirst, he need a new panel...00:36
yelloowfireTo fill the downside00:36
ToStItOs_oh ok00:36
ToStItOs_muxfr did u get it00:38
yelloowfiremuxfr??00:39
ToStItOs_did he restart?00:39
yelloowfireI don't know...00:39
ToStItOs_he might have00:40
yelloowfireCrashed? Restarted? Doiing it by itself?00:40
ToStItOs_that has happened to me many times00:41
yelloowfireNot with me...00:41
muxfranybody found it?00:41
yelloowfire...00:41
yelloowfireYou tried Left button Upside panel - Persolalize thing (Last option - MINE IS PT) add panel button - Configure the new panel?00:43
muxfryep, I just had to set it to do some modification00:46
muxfrnow to show the opened apps, which item should I add to it?00:46
yelloowfireWait a minute00:46
yelloowfireClick on the new panel with left button - Add new items - Put the Task List one.00:47
muxfrThat's it man :)00:49
yelloowfire:-D00:49
muxfrI'm actually new to xubuntu, I'm coming from windows. So I would like xubuntu to help me do the very same things that I used to do with windows without wrecking it.00:49
yelloowfireTo say the trurth, i am using ubuntu since June, and Xubuntu on my Virtual machine...00:50
muxfrI see00:51
muxfrWell, I used to use linux in vm's too, but my hardware is very buggy00:51
muxfrit's bleeding edge though.00:51
yelloowfireWas a great change, at windows Xp, i had hundreds of errors everyday, BSODS, useless antivirus, crashing...00:52
yelloowfireAt ubuntu/Xubuntu, at starting was crashing, but i changed the kernel and now both run very fast :-D00:52
yelloowfireNow, i must go... Good luck man :-D00:55
muxfrhmm..00:59
muxfrwell, can anybody suggest a good keylogger ?00:59
th0rmuxfr: why...you have trouble remembering what you typed?01:14
XB191Aheh01:15
XB191Ahi01:15
XB191Acan anybody help me with an xubuntu-installer problem? :P01:16
XiXaQXB191A, explain what the problem is and what you've done. If someone can, they probably will.01:17
XB191Aright :P01:17
XB191A(sorry for poor english, in advance)01:18
XB191Awell, i'm trying to install xubuntu 9.0401:18
XB191Ai currently have my harddrive partitioned as:01:18
XB191A1) Data NTFS (73gb)01:18
XB191A2) WinXP NTFS (9gb)01:19
XB191Athe idea is overwriting the winXP with xubuntu01:19
XB191Abut the installer doesn't recognize any partitions, it takes the hard-drive as one un-partitioned 83gb hd01:20
XB191A82*01:20
XB191Ai can i.e. use abiword and save the document in ANY partition01:20
XB191Ai mean, xubuntu progs recognize the partitions, but the installer doesn't01:20
XB191Agparted doesn't either01:20
XB191Aso right01:21
XB191Athat's it :)01:21
th0rXB191A: are you choosing the custom partitioning in the installer?01:24
XB191Ayeah01:25
XB191Abut, from the first moment, it shows the hard-drive as just one un-partitioned unit01:25
XB191Athe idea is to keep the data partition01:25
XB191Ai can't backup it :(01:25
th0rXB191A: I can understand it showing that from the start, as the installer defaults to using the whole drive. But if you choose custom partitioning it should show you the existing partitions and let you work with them01:26
XB191Ath0r, i know, but it doesn't :S01:26
XB191Ait keeps showing the whole hard-drive01:26
XB191AXiXaQ, do you still have the picture url ?01:26
XiXaQhttp://i31.tinypic.com/vy2ow4.png01:27
XB191Athanks01:27
XB191Ath0r, that's what it shows01:27
th0rXB191A: at that page, check the bottom choice...Especifar ......01:28
XB191Ai did01:28
XB191Abut it keeps showing the hard drive as i told you01:28
XB191Aif i chose to partition it again, i'll lose all the data on the disk01:28
th0rXB191A: a question...why can't you boot into windows to back up the data...is the windows install corrupt?01:29
XB191Ano no01:29
XB191Ai can start windows without any problem01:29
XB191Athe problem is HOW TO backup the data01:29
XB191Ait's aroung 60gb in size, dvd-rw is not possible, neither usb sticks :S01:30
th0rI don't know your situation, but I have all my data backed up to a couple of 160GB usb drives01:30
th0rdrives I took out of dead laptops01:30
XB191Awell, i live in Argentina....01:30
XB191Aso i can't get my hands on a usb drive01:30
XiXaQth0r, the thing to notice here, is that he's able to mount and use the ntfs partitions but gparted doesn't see them. Why is that?01:31
th0rXiXaQ: yeah...I understand that, and I am at a loss as to why. I would like to see a pastebin of the next screen...after he chooses Especificar partitiones (yo se mi espanol es muy mal_01:32
XiXaQperhaps resizing the ntfs partitions require more ram?01:32
XB191Auh ..pastebin ? :s01:33
XB191A:P01:33
th0rsorry....the tinyurl thing....http://i31.tinypic.com01:34
XB191Asorry for my ignorance01:34
XiXaQth0r, he has 256MB RAM only. Perhaps the installer doesn't show the option of resizing and using the free space because it would require more ram than is available?01:34
XB191Await a sec, ill take the screenshot01:34
XiXaQI'm just guessing now though.01:34
th0rXiXaQ: no....if I remember right xubuntu only requires 192MB for the installer01:34
XiXaQth0r, to resize ntfs-partitions too?01:35
XiXaQI would assume that would require some more ram.01:35
th0rXiXaQ: yeah...I think so. I have plenty of ram and installed ubuntu then went back to xfce, so I am not sure either01:35
XiXaQXB191A, how full are those partitions btw?01:35
XB191Athe 73gb one has 20gb of free space01:36
XB191A8 gb , has 5gb free01:36
th0rXB191A: another question, are you trying to keep windows and split that partition, or are you going to delete windows and install linux?01:36
XB191Areplace windows01:36
th0rXB191A: then here is a way forward, although it isn't my first choice.01:37
XB191Ai tried wubi for some time01:37
XB191Aand i want to stick with xubuntu01:37
XB191A:O01:37
th0ruse the live cd to delete the windows partition, then recreate it as an ext3 partition. Then the installer should see the 9GB partition and try to use it for linux01:37
XB191Ahttp://i31.tinypic.com/35d419j.png01:38
th0rXB191A: yeah...it doesn't see any partitions at all...and I find that surprising. Can't explain it01:38
XB191Ai can access then without any problem with xubuntu apps (abiword, gimp, etc)01:39
XB191A:\01:39
th0rXB191A: well here is what I think is happening.....01:39
XB191Aweird... my harddrive must be cursed or something :P01:39
th0rlinux requires ntfs3g installed to read and write ntfs partitions. ntfs-3g is  included in the live cd. But when you start the installer, it doesn't install that, and therefore cannot see the ntfs partitions.01:40
th0rbut I am not a dev....so this is NOT gospel <smile>01:40
XB191Awell i have ntfs3g installed, but i understand what you meant01:40
XB191Aso.. do you know any workaround?01:40
XiXaQth0r, not likely.01:41
XiXaQdoes fdisk see the ntfs partitions?01:42
th0rXiXaQ: I think it does01:42
th0rXB191A: the only idea I have for a workaround is what I suggested a little earlier...use the livecd to reformat the 9GB partition and then install01:43
XiXaQXB191A, it would be very interesting to see if the normal Ubuntu cd acts the same way, if you could download and burn it?01:43
XB191Ak i'll download it01:44
XiXaQXB191A, th0rs tip would work, yes.01:44
XB191Abut it'll take a while01:44
XB191Abut i mean01:44
XiXaQmhm.01:44
XB191Aif i format winxp partition from live cd01:44
XB191Aand the installer still doesn't see it..01:44
XB191Aoh never mind :P01:45
XB191Ai'll try it01:45
XiXaQgood luck. Be careful if this data is important.01:45
th0rXB191A: agreed...if there is something unusual about the drive or controller...there is the possibility that you will get in deeper01:45
XB191Anaah01:45
th0rXB191A: I would be very uncomfortable working with your situation without a backup of the data partition01:46
XB191Athe 9gb partition is just winxp skeleton01:46
XB191Afresh wxp installation01:46
XB191A well, i have to go01:49
XB191Ai'll come back in, like, an hour01:49
th0rXB191A: good luck01:49
XB191Ai'll try formatting from live cd01:49
XB191Athanks01:49
XB191Athank you both for your help01:49
XB191Ai'll be just idling01:49
muxfrAnybody could get intel ICH9 working?02:34
muxfraudio card.02:34
XB191Auhm02:41
XB191Afdisk -l should list all drives, right?02:41
XiXaQif you use sudo.02:44
XB191Aokay02:44
XiXaQor, more correctly, if you have the rights.02:44
XB191Agot it :)02:45
XB191A/dev/sda1   *           1         973     7815591    7  HPFS/NTFS02:46
XB191A/dev/sda2             974       10011    72597735    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)02:46
XB191A/dev/sda3            1023       10011    72204111    7  HPFS/NTFS02:46
XB191Aso02:46
XB191Ahow is that possible... i mean, two overlapped partitions ?02:46
XB191Adev          start      end      blocks      id    file sytem02:47
XiXaQ3 belongs to 2 I think.02:47
XB191Aoh right02:47
XB191A:P02:47
XB191Aso first one should be 9gb02:48
XiXaQ/dev/sda1   *           1        1216     9767488+  83  Linux02:48
XiXaQ/dev/sda2            1217       19457   146520832+   5  Extended02:48
XiXaQ/dev/sda5            1217       19457   146520801   83  Linux02:48
XB191Ai thought they were different ones02:48
XB191A:P02:48
XiXaQhowever, I would have expected your third partition to be called sda5.02:49
XB191A:|02:49
XiXaQbut I really don't think that's the problem.02:49
XB191Anah02:50
XiXaQsince fdisk is able to see the partition, I think it's more likely that gparted hides it for some other reason, like protecting you from running out of ram. Still just a guess though.02:50
XB191Amaybe02:50
XB191Aso well02:50
XB191Ai'll format the first partition  thn02:50
XB191Athat's why i think this is weird02:51
XB191Asome programas can see the partitions perfectly, whilst other don't even see them02:51
XiXaQthis probably means you'd have an easier time installing xubuntu using the alternate cd.02:51
XB191Ayep,02:53
XB191Awell i'll try with this02:53
XB191Aif it doesn't work i'll dl the alternate02:53
XB191A;)02:53
XiXaQ:)02:54
XiXaQupdate us!02:55
XB191Ahmm02:56
XB191Acan i be completely sure the first one is the smaller partition because of the block number02:56
XB191Abut i still have this baaad feeling xD02:56
XiXaQyou can be sure by checking the contents of the directory where /dev/sda1 is mounted.03:00
XiXaQbut, yes, it's the small one.03:00
XB191A sisi03:01
XB191Aerr, sorry, yes03:01
XiXaQ:903:02
chrissy_hello can anybody help me with email03:07
chrissy_is anybody out there03:08
XB191Awell03:13
XB191Athat didn't work :(03:13
chrissy_can u help mewith email03:15
XiXaQchrissy_, yes, if you can help me with the stuff?03:17
chrissy_like what03:17
XiXaQgood question...03:17
chrissy_what u want to know03:17
XiXaQwhat you want to know.03:18
chrissy_my email i don't how to set up03:18
chrissy_any idea03:20
XiXaQdo you have a mail account?03:20
chrissy_yes on a other computer03:20
XiXaQthen you run your own mailserver?03:20
XiXaQor do you mean you've configured a client on another computer?03:21
chrissy_i have config on other computer03:22
XiXaQin xubuntu?03:22
XiXaQI don't really know what the problem is.03:22
chrissy_no winxp03:22
XiXaQok. But then you do have your account details, such as which ports the mailserver uses, the addresses and login/password?03:23
chrissy_yes do i use my xubunt password or my from my other computer03:24
XiXaQusually, you have a completely independent username and password on the mailserver.03:25
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chrissy_ok i just want a email account that goes to my xubuntu computer not the other03:26
XiXaQyou can't create email accounts in xubuntu. You can connect to a server on which you _have_ a mail account.03:27
XiXaQwell, of course, you could run your own mailserver, but that requires some work.03:27
chrissy_no i dont no what the ports are03:28
XiXaQyou have to know that in order to configure a client.03:29
XiXaQask your ISP.03:29
chrissy_where do i get them03:29
chrissy_ok what questions do u have for me ask away03:30
chrissy_anything03:30
chrissy_well nothing else?03:32
XiXaQyour account details.03:34
XiXaQnice.03:34
freeBoyHi, I went to install xubuntu 9.10, the latest alpha, via Wubi.  However when I boot, and select xubuntu, it restarts almost immediately03:55
freeBoyseems like unusually quiet on the channel03:56
XB191Awell i'm about to commit suicide03:56
XB191Asoon the channel won't be so quiet03:56
freeBoyanyone with support for my nonbooting xubuntu?   i had previously installed the beta of gOS via wubi, if that is any clue03:59
freeBoy(then I uninstalled via normal method, in add/remove programs).  This is windows XP Home on an HP Pavilion z4325 laptop03:59
freeBoyk bye04:15
AJ1ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?04:50
AJ1ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?04:51
mikubuntuhey guys ... i went to synaptic and thought i installed firefox 3.5, but i just did a version check in the terminal and says i'm still running 3.0.13, what could be the problem?09:14
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mikubuntunever mind, i found it09:20
KaiThxBaiHey guys10:00
KaiThxBaijust wondering what xbuntu version i need to download10:00
KaiThxBaialertante or desktop10:00
KaiThxBaiits for an old P3 laptop10:00
TheSheephow much ram?10:02
igsenafter upgrading to jaunty i can't log on to xubuntu's xfce4 desktop, please help!!10:56
slow-motionhi15:44
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MOUDHello17:41
MOUDI have Ubuntu installed and also installed XFCE.  I want to make ubuntu look like vista as much as possible. How is it possible?17:42
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stennvehi18:45
stennveanyone awake18:47
nikolamyep :)18:55
nikolamshoot stennve18:56
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