[00:22] <muxfr> Hi
[00:22] <muxfr> The panel down there disappeared, how can I make it appear again?
[00:24] <ToStItOs_> I think the command after you hit alt and F2 is xfce4-panel
[00:25] <muxfr> nothing appeared
[00:25] <muxfr> but the command didn't return an error though.
[00:25] <ToStItOs_> hmmm try it again
[00:26] <muxfr> not yet
[00:26] <yelloowfire> Do you have the upside panel?
[00:26] <muxfr> ya there's a panel up there.
[00:27] <yelloowfire> Click with the left button - New panel, put downside...
[00:28] <ToStItOs_> yellowfire: Why does that happen?
[00:28] <yelloowfire> Acidental delete... I did it...
[00:28] <ToStItOs_> I have done it too what headache
[00:29] <yelloowfire> Yeah...
[00:29] <muxfr> there's no "new panel" option.
[00:29] <yelloowfire> Wait some time
[00:30] <muxfr> ?
[00:31] <ToStItOs_> wouldn't it be under customize panel when you right click?
[00:33] <yelloowfire> Ok, click left button ON DESKTOP, configurations thing (Mine is PT-BR) and add panel.
[00:33] <muxfr> When I press the + button after custimize panel, I get a new launch button on the desktop not a panel.
[00:34] <ToStItOs_> I am trying to remember
[00:35] <yelloowfire> Ops, wrong again, ok, now it MUST work: Left button on upside panel - Personalize (remember mine is in portuguese - I'm not sure) And add panel (+ button)
[00:35] <ToStItOs_> yellowfire doesn't he need to go to customize panel then click on move freely ?
[00:36] <yelloowfire> First, he need a new panel...
[00:36] <yelloowfire> To fill the downside
[00:36] <ToStItOs_> oh ok
[00:38] <ToStItOs_> muxfr did u get it
[00:39] <yelloowfire> muxfr??
[00:39] <ToStItOs_> did he restart?
[00:39] <yelloowfire> I don't know...
[00:40] <ToStItOs_> he might have
[00:40] <yelloowfire> Crashed? Restarted? Doiing it by itself?
[00:41] <ToStItOs_> that has happened to me many times
[00:41] <yelloowfire> Not with me...
[00:41] <muxfr> anybody found it?
[00:41] <yelloowfire> ...
[00:43] <yelloowfire> You tried Left button Upside panel - Persolalize thing (Last option - MINE IS PT) add panel button - Configure the new panel?
[00:46] <muxfr> yep, I just had to set it to do some modification
[00:46] <muxfr> now to show the opened apps, which item should I add to it?
[00:46] <yelloowfire> Wait a minute
[00:47] <yelloowfire> Click on the new panel with left button - Add new items - Put the Task List one.
[00:49] <muxfr> That's it man :)
[00:49] <yelloowfire> :-D
[00:49] <muxfr> I'm actually new to xubuntu, I'm coming from windows. So I would like xubuntu to help me do the very same things that I used to do with windows without wrecking it.
[00:50] <yelloowfire> To say the trurth, i am using ubuntu since June, and Xubuntu on my Virtual machine...
[00:51] <muxfr> I see
[00:51] <muxfr> Well, I used to use linux in vm's too, but my hardware is very buggy
[00:51] <muxfr> it's bleeding edge though.
[00:52] <yelloowfire> Was a great change, at windows Xp, i had hundreds of errors everyday, BSODS, useless antivirus, crashing...
[00:52] <yelloowfire> At ubuntu/Xubuntu, at starting was crashing, but i changed the kernel and now both run very fast :-D
[00:55] <yelloowfire> Now, i must go... Good luck man :-D
[00:59] <muxfr> hmm..
[00:59] <muxfr> well, can anybody suggest a good keylogger ?
[01:14] <th0r> muxfr: why...you have trouble remembering what you typed?
[01:15] <XB191A> heh
[01:15] <XB191A> hi
[01:16] <XB191A> can anybody help me with an xubuntu-installer problem? :P
[01:17] <XiXaQ> XB191A, explain what the problem is and what you've done. If someone can, they probably will.
[01:17] <XB191A> right :P
[01:18] <XB191A> (sorry for poor english, in advance)
[01:18] <XB191A> well, i'm trying to install xubuntu 9.04
[01:18] <XB191A> i currently have my harddrive partitioned as:
[01:18] <XB191A> 1) Data NTFS (73gb)
[01:19] <XB191A> 2) WinXP NTFS (9gb)
[01:19] <XB191A> the idea is overwriting the winXP with xubuntu
[01:20] <XB191A> but the installer doesn't recognize any partitions, it takes the hard-drive as one un-partitioned 83gb hd
[01:20] <XB191A> 82*
[01:20] <XB191A> i can i.e. use abiword and save the document in ANY partition
[01:20] <XB191A> i mean, xubuntu progs recognize the partitions, but the installer doesn't
[01:20] <XB191A> gparted doesn't either
[01:21] <XB191A> so right
[01:21] <XB191A> that's it :)
[01:24] <th0r> XB191A: are you choosing the custom partitioning in the installer?
[01:25] <XB191A> yeah
[01:25] <XB191A> but, from the first moment, it shows the hard-drive as just one un-partitioned unit
[01:25] <XB191A> the idea is to keep the data partition
[01:25] <XB191A> i can't backup it :(
[01:26] <th0r> XB191A: I can understand it showing that from the start, as the installer defaults to using the whole drive. But if you choose custom partitioning it should show you the existing partitions and let you work with them
[01:26] <XB191A> th0r, i know, but it doesn't :S
[01:26] <XB191A> it keeps showing the whole hard-drive
[01:26] <XB191A> XiXaQ, do you still have the picture url ?
[01:27] <XiXaQ> http://i31.tinypic.com/vy2ow4.png
[01:27] <XB191A> thanks
[01:27] <XB191A> th0r, that's what it shows
[01:28] <th0r> XB191A: at that page, check the bottom choice...Especifar ......
[01:28] <XB191A> i did
[01:28] <XB191A> but it keeps showing the hard drive as i told you
[01:28] <XB191A> if i chose to partition it again, i'll lose all the data on the disk
[01:29] <th0r> XB191A: a question...why can't you boot into windows to back up the data...is the windows install corrupt?
[01:29] <XB191A> no no
[01:29] <XB191A> i can start windows without any problem
[01:29] <XB191A> the problem is HOW TO backup the data
[01:30] <XB191A> it's aroung 60gb in size, dvd-rw is not possible, neither usb sticks :S
[01:30] <th0r> I don't know your situation, but I have all my data backed up to a couple of 160GB usb drives
[01:30] <th0r> drives I took out of dead laptops
[01:30] <XB191A> well, i live in Argentina....
[01:30] <XB191A> so i can't get my hands on a usb drive
[01:31] <XiXaQ> th0r, the thing to notice here, is that he's able to mount and use the ntfs partitions but gparted doesn't see them. Why is that?
[01:32] <th0r> XiXaQ: yeah...I understand that, and I am at a loss as to why. I would like to see a pastebin of the next screen...after he chooses Especificar partitiones (yo se mi espanol es muy mal_
[01:32] <XiXaQ> perhaps resizing the ntfs partitions require more ram?
[01:33] <XB191A> uh ..pastebin ? :s
[01:33] <XB191A> :P
[01:34] <th0r> sorry....the tinyurl thing....http://i31.tinypic.com
[01:34] <XB191A> sorry for my ignorance
[01:34] <XiXaQ> th0r, he has 256MB RAM only. Perhaps the installer doesn't show the option of resizing and using the free space because it would require more ram than is available?
[01:34] <XB191A> wait a sec, ill take the screenshot
[01:34] <XiXaQ> I'm just guessing now though.
[01:34] <th0r> XiXaQ: no....if I remember right xubuntu only requires 192MB for the installer
[01:35] <XiXaQ> th0r, to resize ntfs-partitions too?
[01:35] <XiXaQ> I would assume that would require some more ram.
[01:35] <th0r> XiXaQ: yeah...I think so. I have plenty of ram and installed ubuntu then went back to xfce, so I am not sure either
[01:35] <XiXaQ> XB191A, how full are those partitions btw?
[01:36] <XB191A> the 73gb one has 20gb of free space
[01:36] <XB191A> 8 gb , has 5gb free
[01:36] <th0r> XB191A: another question, are you trying to keep windows and split that partition, or are you going to delete windows and install linux?
[01:36] <XB191A> replace windows
[01:37] <th0r> XB191A: then here is a way forward, although it isn't my first choice.
[01:37] <XB191A> i tried wubi for some time
[01:37] <XB191A> and i want to stick with xubuntu
[01:37] <XB191A> :O
[01:37] <th0r> use the live cd to delete the windows partition, then recreate it as an ext3 partition. Then the installer should see the 9GB partition and try to use it for linux
[01:38] <XB191A> http://i31.tinypic.com/35d419j.png
[01:38] <th0r> XB191A: yeah...it doesn't see any partitions at all...and I find that surprising. Can't explain it
[01:39] <XB191A> i can access then without any problem with xubuntu apps (abiword, gimp, etc)
[01:39] <XB191A> :\
[01:39] <th0r> XB191A: well here is what I think is happening.....
[01:39] <XB191A> weird... my harddrive must be cursed or something :P
[01:40] <th0r> linux requires ntfs3g installed to read and write ntfs partitions. ntfs-3g is  included in the live cd. But when you start the installer, it doesn't install that, and therefore cannot see the ntfs partitions.
[01:40] <th0r> but I am not a dev....so this is NOT gospel <smile>
[01:40] <XB191A> well i have ntfs3g installed, but i understand what you meant
[01:40] <XB191A> so.. do you know any workaround?
[01:41] <XiXaQ> th0r, not likely.
[01:42] <XiXaQ> does fdisk see the ntfs partitions?
[01:42] <th0r> XiXaQ: I think it does
[01:43] <th0r> XB191A: the only idea I have for a workaround is what I suggested a little earlier...use the livecd to reformat the 9GB partition and then install
[01:43] <XiXaQ> XB191A, it would be very interesting to see if the normal Ubuntu cd acts the same way, if you could download and burn it?
[01:44] <XB191A> k i'll download it
[01:44] <XiXaQ> XB191A, th0rs tip would work, yes.
[01:44] <XB191A> but it'll take a while
[01:44] <XB191A> but i mean
[01:44] <XiXaQ> mhm.
[01:44] <XB191A> if i format winxp partition from live cd
[01:44] <XB191A> and the installer still doesn't see it..
[01:45] <XB191A> oh never mind :P
[01:45] <XB191A> i'll try it
[01:45] <XiXaQ> good luck. Be careful if this data is important.
[01:45] <th0r> XB191A: agreed...if there is something unusual about the drive or controller...there is the possibility that you will get in deeper
[01:45] <XB191A> naah
[01:46] <th0r> XB191A: I would be very uncomfortable working with your situation without a backup of the data partition
[01:46] <XB191A> the 9gb partition is just winxp skeleton
[01:46] <XB191A> fresh wxp installation
[01:49] <XB191A>  well, i have to go
[01:49] <XB191A> i'll come back in, like, an hour
[01:49] <th0r> XB191A: good luck
[01:49] <XB191A> i'll try formatting from live cd
[01:49] <XB191A> thanks
[01:49] <XB191A> thank you both for your help
[01:49] <XB191A> i'll be just idling
[02:34] <muxfr> Anybody could get intel ICH9 working?
[02:34] <muxfr> audio card.
[02:41] <XB191A> uhm
[02:41] <XB191A> fdisk -l should list all drives, right?
[02:44] <XiXaQ> if you use sudo.
[02:44] <XB191A> okay
[02:44] <XiXaQ> or, more correctly, if you have the rights.
[02:45] <XB191A> got it :)
[02:46] <XB191A> /dev/sda1   *           1         973     7815591    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:46] <XB191A> /dev/sda2             974       10011    72597735    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[02:46] <XB191A> /dev/sda3            1023       10011    72204111    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:46] <XB191A> so
[02:46] <XB191A> how is that possible... i mean, two overlapped partitions ?
[02:47] <XB191A> dev          start      end      blocks      id    file sytem
[02:47] <XiXaQ> 3 belongs to 2 I think.
[02:47] <XB191A> oh right
[02:47] <XB191A> :P
[02:48] <XB191A> so first one should be 9gb
[02:48] <XiXaQ> /dev/sda1   *           1        1216     9767488+  83  Linux
[02:48] <XiXaQ> /dev/sda2            1217       19457   146520832+   5  Extended
[02:48] <XiXaQ> /dev/sda5            1217       19457   146520801   83  Linux
[02:48] <XB191A> i thought they were different ones
[02:48] <XB191A> :P
[02:49] <XiXaQ> however, I would have expected your third partition to be called sda5.
[02:49] <XB191A> :|
[02:49] <XiXaQ> but I really don't think that's the problem.
[02:50] <XB191A> nah
[02:50] <XiXaQ> since fdisk is able to see the partition, I think it's more likely that gparted hides it for some other reason, like protecting you from running out of ram. Still just a guess though.
[02:50] <XB191A> maybe
[02:50] <XB191A> so well
[02:50] <XB191A> i'll format the first partition  thn
[02:51] <XB191A> that's why i think this is weird
[02:51] <XB191A> some programas can see the partitions perfectly, whilst other don't even see them
[02:51] <XiXaQ> this probably means you'd have an easier time installing xubuntu using the alternate cd.
[02:53] <XB191A> yep,
[02:53] <XB191A> well i'll try with this
[02:53] <XB191A> if it doesn't work i'll dl the alternate
[02:53] <XB191A> ;)
[02:54] <XiXaQ> :)
[02:55] <XiXaQ> update us!
[02:56] <XB191A> hmm
[02:56] <XB191A> can i be completely sure the first one is the smaller partition because of the block number
[02:56] <XB191A> but i still have this baaad feeling xD
[03:00] <XiXaQ> you can be sure by checking the contents of the directory where /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[03:00] <XiXaQ> but, yes, it's the small one.
[03:01] <XB191A>  sisi
[03:01] <XB191A> err, sorry, yes
[03:02] <XiXaQ> :9
[03:07] <chrissy_> hello can anybody help me with email
[03:08] <chrissy_> is anybody out there
[03:13] <XB191A> well
[03:13] <XB191A> that didn't work :(
[03:15] <chrissy_> can u help mewith email
[03:17] <XiXaQ> chrissy_, yes, if you can help me with the stuff?
[03:17] <chrissy_> like what
[03:17] <XiXaQ> good question...
[03:17] <chrissy_> what u want to know
[03:18] <XiXaQ> what you want to know.
[03:18] <chrissy_> my email i don't how to set up
[03:20] <chrissy_> any idea
[03:20] <XiXaQ> do you have a mail account?
[03:20] <chrissy_> yes on a other computer
[03:20] <XiXaQ> then you run your own mailserver?
[03:21] <XiXaQ> or do you mean you've configured a client on another computer?
[03:22] <chrissy_> i have config on other computer
[03:22] <XiXaQ> in xubuntu?
[03:22] <XiXaQ> I don't really know what the problem is.
[03:22] <chrissy_> no winxp
[03:23] <XiXaQ> ok. But then you do have your account details, such as which ports the mailserver uses, the addresses and login/password?
[03:24] <chrissy_> yes do i use my xubunt password or my from my other computer
[03:25] <XiXaQ> usually, you have a completely independent username and password on the mailserver.
[03:26] <chrissy_> ok i just want a email account that goes to my xubuntu computer not the other
[03:27] <XiXaQ> you can't create email accounts in xubuntu. You can connect to a server on which you _have_ a mail account.
[03:27] <XiXaQ> well, of course, you could run your own mailserver, but that requires some work.
[03:28] <chrissy_> no i dont no what the ports are
[03:29] <XiXaQ> you have to know that in order to configure a client.
[03:29] <XiXaQ> ask your ISP.
[03:29] <chrissy_> where do i get them
[03:30] <chrissy_> ok what questions do u have for me ask away
[03:30] <chrissy_> anything
[03:32] <chrissy_> well nothing else?
[03:34] <XiXaQ> your account details.
[03:34] <XiXaQ> nice.
[03:55] <freeBoy> Hi, I went to install xubuntu 9.10, the latest alpha, via Wubi.  However when I boot, and select xubuntu, it restarts almost immediately
[03:56] <freeBoy> seems like unusually quiet on the channel
[03:56] <XB191A> well i'm about to commit suicide
[03:56] <XB191A> soon the channel won't be so quiet
[03:59] <freeBoy> anyone with support for my nonbooting xubuntu?   i had previously installed the beta of gOS via wubi, if that is any clue
[03:59] <freeBoy> (then I uninstalled via normal method, in add/remove programs).  This is windows XP Home on an HP Pavilion z4325 laptop
[04:15] <freeBoy> k bye
[04:50] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[04:51] <AJ1> ext3grep, can somebody explain to me how it works - or walk me through recovering a directory to another disk?
[09:14] <mikubuntu> hey guys ... i went to synaptic and thought i installed firefox 3.5, but i just did a version check in the terminal and says i'm still running 3.0.13, what could be the problem?
[09:20] <mikubuntu> never mind, i found it
[10:00] <KaiThxBai> Hey guys
[10:00] <KaiThxBai> just wondering what xbuntu version i need to download
[10:00] <KaiThxBai> alertante or desktop
[10:00] <KaiThxBai> its for an old P3 laptop
[10:02] <TheSheep> how much ram?
[10:56] <igsen> after upgrading to jaunty i can't log on to xubuntu's xfce4 desktop, please help!!
[15:44] <slow-motion> hi
[17:41] <MOUD> Hello
[17:42] <MOUD> I have Ubuntu installed and also installed XFCE.  I want to make ubuntu look like vista as much as possible. How is it possible?
[18:45] <stennve> hi
[18:47] <stennve> anyone awake
[18:55] <nikolam> yep :)
[18:56] <nikolam> shoot stennve