[01:08] <davew_> I wish to alter clients desktops and not servers, so that students only see apps i want them to see - anyone help ?
[01:33] <Ahmuck-Sr> davew_: patience
[01:35] <Ahmuck-Sr> davew nfs would restrict them to their own directories.  bieng able to customize thier own menu isn't a bad thing
[01:36] <davew_> Hi - Yes and I have got quite a lot of it when I'm in control but unfortunately in this situation it becomes difficult - you see the classes have to carry on
[01:36] <Ahmuck-Sr> morever, it sounds like you have windows clients, so you would need a windows lockdown editor
[01:37] <Ahmuck-Sr> on the linux side, someone messes up their menu, the menu entry get's deleted and the menu gets reset
[01:37] <davew_> No Windows clients. I just want 30 thin clients who can use open office apps and have access to their own folders
[01:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> oh, that's easy ... you have all the control you want
[01:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> davew>	O.K. Let me tell you the story anyway. Have got a room with 30 pc's running XP and accessing a fedora core server via samba. - so you don't plan to use the windows xp side?
[01:38] <davew_> Oh tell me wise one !
[01:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> what are you concered they might mess up?
[01:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> u r running fedora core right?
[01:40] <davew_> The kids will mess anything up. I want to just have a nmenu with the apps I am allowing them to use, together with their home folder icon on the desktop and the inability to change anything on the desktop or put in a memory stick and be able to access it
[01:41] <Ahmuck-Sr> davew>	I abandoned Open SUSE and went to ubuntu, with all of its promise of easy install if 2 NIC's on board. - now i'm confused.  fedora core & ubuntu on the same server with ltsp?
[01:41] <Ahmuck-Sr> u have a fedora core server with samba and a ubuntu ltsp server?
[01:41] <Ahmuck-Sr> what r u concerned with them messing up?
[01:42] <Ahmuck-Sr> help me out here
[01:42] <davew_> Sorry to confuse. We have been using a Fedora server and allowing the XP machines normal access via Samba. I have built a new machine based upon Ubuntu 9.04
[01:43] <davew_> Thgis machine will be used as the LTSP server. I have managed to get this arrangement running........so the next thing is the control
[01:45] <davew_> Ahmuck-Sr - Is it clear now ?
[01:49] <davew_> Still there - Ahmuck - sr
[01:52] <davew_> Hello - anybody alive ?
[01:54] <davew_> Any of you use Unix ?
[01:55] <davew_> Now Unix was good !
[02:01] <Ahmuck-Sr> still here
[02:01] <davew_> Final call anyone ?
[02:01] <Ahmuck-Sr> unix was 36,000 dollars
[02:01] <Ahmuck-Sr> for 36,000 dollars i'll fix anything you have a problem with
[02:02] <davew_> The amount of sweat I have dripped over this, it was worth it lol
[02:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> :)
[02:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> ok, let me do some searching.  i'm working on a magazine deadline, but i'll take time to look this up
[02:03] <davew_> That is very kind of you - you O.K. with what I am propsing ?
[02:03] <davew_> proposing
[02:04] <davew_> I shall return tomorrow and leave you in peace - Cheers !
[03:02] <mhall119> evening
[03:13] <mhall119> http://www.quinncoincorporated.org/2009/08/youth-build-day-pictures/
[11:59] <termolp> hi
[11:59] <termolp> is there somebody here?
[19:36] <cprofitt> Can anyone tell me what the "recipes" are mentioned on this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuRecipes
[19:44] <andv> cprofitt, looks like network-install is the only recipe available atm
[19:45] <cprofitt> correct... I am curious what the recipes are... the network-install does not really serve as a good guide
[19:46] <cprofitt> Would telling people how to setup iTalc be good?
[19:49] <cprofitt> I am looking more for what 'good topics' would be.
[19:54] <cprofitt> andv, any idea what other topics would count as a recipe? or perhaps that page should be deleted?
[20:21] <cprofitt> andv I decided to redirect that page to the cookbooks
[21:32] <andv> cprofitt, don't know who takes care of that page
[21:56] <cprofitt> I am part of the team that takes care of it andv via Rocket2DMn and the documentation team
[22:32] <andv> cprofitt, oh cool
[22:32] <andv> cprofitt, actually I wonder why that page is no more active
[22:32] <andv> cprofitt, maybe there was a project about it and now no one cares
[22:32] <andv> dunno
[22:48] <cprofitt> andv, could be... the cookbook seems more active... so a redirect to that should work
[22:48] <andv> yep
[22:48] <cprofitt> I transferred over the one 'recipe'
[22:49] <andv> cprofitt, if the only remaining recipe was the networkinstall one
[22:49] <cprofitt> the main edubuntu site linked to the recipes... not the cook book...
[22:49] <andv> just move it to the cookbook and removed that page then
[22:49] <cprofitt> so we will have to get that fixed
[22:49] <cprofitt> I did that already andv
[22:49] <andv> perfect
[22:49] <cprofitt> after consulting with a member of the documentation team with more 'seat time'
[22:50] <andv> perfect then, you fixed the issue
[22:51] <andv> as I said that page might be part of an existing project which got abanduned
[22:51] <andv> * abandoned
[22:54] <cprofitt> might well be...
[22:54] <cprofitt> edubuntu needs to get a bit more 'push' behind it...
[22:54] <cprofitt> IT in schools have warmed to Ubuntu at home, but they need guidance to install it at work...
[22:55] <cprofitt> and the teachers / students need guides to help them transition
[22:58] <andv> cprofitt, fully agreed
[22:58] <andv> cprofitt, what's the situation for Edubuntu docs atm=
[22:58] <andv> ?
[23:18] <cprofitt> andv not really sure...
[23:18] <cprofitt> not even sure who is leading the project or what the status is
[23:19] <cprofitt> I am involved with this project which may help fill the void -
[23:19] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
[23:19] <cprofitt> but it is not 'just' about edubuntu
[23:20] <andv> this project looks great
[23:20] <andv> did you have any good result since it has been created'
[23:20] <andv> ?
[23:22] <andv> cprofitt, anyway highvoltage should be able to tell you what the status of edubuntu-doc
[23:23] <cprofitt> nice... I will ask him at some point...
[23:23] <cprofitt> I am a systems administrator in a school district...
[23:23] <cprofitt> so I am greatly interested in the progress of the project
[23:24] <andv> I'm sure you'll get all informations you may need by him
[23:25] <cprofitt> andv, the project is still in its infancy...
[23:25] <andv> cprofitt, your project is about having 'lessons' on IRC about several topics
[23:25] <andv> am I right?
[23:26] <cprofitt> so we have not produced a single class yet -- but we are consistently moving toward that goal...
[23:26] <cprofitt> we are about - using Moodle / IRC / Wiki / Forums to produce on-line classes
[23:26] <cprofitt> they may involved one or all of those
[23:26] <cprofitt> I would like to have both self-paced and instructor guided courses
[23:27] <andv> what's moodle?
[23:28] <andv> how many ppl follow this classrooms atm=
[23:28] <cprofitt> Moodle is a web based server that allows for on-line courses
[23:28] <cprofitt> http://moodle.org/
[23:29] <cprofitt> http://learn.ufbt.net/ -- is our site at the moment
[23:29] <cprofitt> if we get things to take off we will likely end up with the site being hosted by Canonical
[23:30] <andv> that's great
[23:30] <andv> I've heard a contributor before talking about following MOTU videos
[23:30] <andv> are they provided by your course?
[23:30] <cprofitt> MOTU does there own thing...
[23:31] <cprofitt> but our courses may be intertwined with theirs in the future
[23:32] <andv> good luck with this project then
[23:32] <andv> It will do good for sure
[23:32] <andv> let me know if you have any news from highvoltage
[23:36] <andv> cprofitt, I'm leaving, good night
[23:38] <cprofitt> good night andv
[23:38] <andv> thanks, cya