[00:02] <kaddi1> maco, i rebooted following the instructions, i reverted the sources.list to gutsy and ran sudo do-release-upgrade again and I still get the "no new ubuntu version available"
[00:03] <kaddi1> sadly it also broke my lan connection, so now I can't update anymore... would doing a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade with the new sources be safe?
[00:04] <maco> kaddi1: mostly, yes. its not usually recommended because there are some hints about obsolete versions that wont get through...but yeah, ive done it when the upgrader crashed mid-upgrade with only a little bit of bugginess (obsolete & no longer compatible package misbehaving) resulting
[00:04] <maco> kaddi1: which kernel does it say youre running now? uname -a
[00:04] <maco> maybe you can boot an old kernel to try to use apt?
[00:05] <cuznt> #48-Ubuntu SMP
[00:06] <cuznt> smp = smoke more pot
[00:06] <maco> kaddi1: if push comes to shove, 8.04 can be installed on top of 7.10 from cd without losing your data if you choose manual partitioning, tell it to use the same partition as before and tell it NOT to format the drive. itd then keep your /home
[00:06] <maco> cuznt: stop please
[00:06] <cuznt> sure... it was true but hard to resist
[00:06] <maco> drug use is off topic for the support channel
[00:06] <cuznt> i appologise
[00:06] <maco> true? SMP = symmetric multi-processing
[00:08] <kaddi> yes
[00:09] <kaddi> i thought you were asking if smp meant symmetric multi processing, lol :p
[00:12] <kaddi> maco,  I'm gonna reboot into the old kernel and see if I can get my network back to work
[00:12] <maco> kaddi1: k
[00:13] <kaddi> maco,  actually I'm not.. seems as if the older kernel was removed during upgrade :/ only 22.14 is showing in grub
[00:14] <maco> ls /boot
[00:20] <kaddi> maco I got my internet back, I'm just gonna run dist-upgrade now :)
[00:20] <kaddi> maco, ls /boot only lists the one available kernel 22.14
[00:21] <raza_> exit
[00:21] <raza_> exit
[00:23] <maco> kaddi1: well at least you got the net up
[00:26] <kaddi> maco,  yeah but I'll have to reboot again after updating to hardy. Who knows how it'll work after that. :D
[00:27] <maco> hah
[00:34] <richardqa> olaaaa
[00:35] <kaddi> ola :)
[00:35] <Pici> !es
[00:36] <kaddi> he left already :'(
[00:36] <Pici> oh well
[00:46] <webbb> whats up everyone
[00:47] <webbb> hey how do i create a launcher  , in gnome all i have to do is right click on the desktop
[00:48] <kaddi1> i did a refly again? :/
[00:57] <kaddi> the intel regression is only in 9.04,no?
[01:05] <rigo> Everyone: Hi I have a little question: Eventough I've already upgraded to kde 4.3 a week ago or so Software Updates control module reports 38 updates involing kde packages in version which are already installed
[01:07] <e370_> ok this is dumb but how do u use remote desktop view
[01:10] <mrh0057> e370: are you looking for a remote desktop client or connecting to a linux machine of the Internet
[01:12] <e370_> linux machine over net
[01:12] <mrh0057> windows or linux client?
[01:13] <e370_> linux hes running the same as me
[01:13] <mrh0057> you can use ssh
[01:13] <e370_> im a noob lol
[01:13] <e370_> whats that
[01:13] <mrh0057> e370: do you know what telnet is
[01:14] <e370_> nah
[01:14] <mrh0057> e370: here is the wiki page on ssh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[01:14] <mrh0057> e370: its a secure connection to a computer
[01:15] <e370_> i need a GUI
[01:15] <e370_> :)
[01:15] <mrh0057> e370: are you both running kde
[01:15] <e370_> ubuntu
[01:16] <e370_> the newest 1
[01:16] <mm_202> Hey guys, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and updraded KDE to 4.3.  I have a Nvidia 6800 card (with the 180 drivers), but I dont have any desktop effects.  What module do I have to load in xorg.conf to get it to work?
[01:16] <e370_> Nvidia x server?
[01:16] <e370_> i have that
[01:16] <mrh0057> e370: there are different window managers in linux.  If both of you are running the same one there is usually a graphical client to connect
[01:17] <mrh0057> e370: Did you install ubuntu or kubuntu
[01:18] <mrh0057> mm_202: make sure glx is loaded
[01:18] <mm_202> mrh0057: I see it has the load glx line, let me check the xorg logs.
[01:19] <e370_> ubuntu
[01:19] <e370_> someone just suggest our routers r probably blocking us
[01:19] <mrh0057> e370: if its ubuntu look in the application menu add there should be something about connecting to remote clients
[01:19] <e370_> thanks
[01:20] <e370_> portforwarding?
[01:20] <mm_202> mrh0057: Xorg.0.log says it was loaded fine...   .. is that a common problem?
[01:20] <e370_> soz for askin such noobish questions
[01:21] <mrh0057> mm_202: if glx is loaded that means opengl is enabled so it should work
[01:22] <mrh0057> mm_202: run glxinfo and see if its using the nvidia
[01:22] <mm_202> mrh0057: Yeah, OpenGL works (tested with screensavers), but it says "Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available."  for Desktop Effects.
[01:22] <mrh0057> mm_202: are you running kde or gnome
[01:22] <mm_202> KDE
[01:22] <mm_202> Im in #kubuntu for a reason  :)
[01:25] <mrh0057> mm_202: have you tried loading them in Xorg.conf file
[01:45] <mitsch> hello?
[01:45] <mitsch> somone here?
[01:48] <mitsch> please, i would need a little help
[01:48] <carpii_> just ask your question
[01:48] <carpii_> then ppl will help, or maybe ppl wont
[01:50] <mitsch> sorry, but i'm new to ubuntu, and installed and deinstalled lamp server a few times, everything works now, but on localhost/phpmyadmin i just get a file to download... but php with another page (phpbb3) works fine?!
[01:55] <carpii_> phpbb3 is on localhost too?
[01:55] <carpii_> and accessed via same 'domain' of http:/localhost ?
[01:55] <mitsch> one moment... i'm on another pc
[01:56] <mitsch> localhost - It work's fine!
[01:57] <mitsch> localhost/~username/phpBB3 - works too, but
[01:57] <mitsch> oh nooo, works from localhost, but not from my pc?!
[01:58] <mitsch> strange is there a need to allow access from other ip´s?
[01:59] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[01:59] <ign0ramus> need help with USB sound card...
[01:59] <ign0ramus> 'asoundconf list' shows my sound card, ID="MP3"
[01:59] <ign0ramus> so i do "sudo asoundconf set-default-card MP3"
[02:00] <ign0ramus> ...nothing :(
[02:00] <ign0ramus> it worked fine in hardy, but not jaunty.
[02:01] <ign0ramus> i've removed all traces of pulseaudio a while ago...
[02:01] <ign0ramus> i would like to listen to The
[02:01] <ign0ramus> Clash loudly right now, it is not working :'(
[02:04] <ign0ramus> "sudo aplay -l" lists my laptops card as 0, the external (MP3) as 1... is this wrong?
[02:04] <ign0ramus> ok guys... let's say I want to play Nickelback on my stereo... does that help?
[02:05] <ign0ramus> Just kidding.
[02:05] <ign0ramus> Creed.
[02:08] <ign0ramus> just restarted X... still no Nickelback playing from my stereo :'(
[02:13] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, are you there?
[02:20] <__lEo___> hi
[02:21] <__lEo___> kubuntuforums.net has been down all day?
[02:21] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, "Service Unavailable"
[02:22] <__lEo___> well, yes
[02:22] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, so, yeah.
[02:22] <__lEo___> what?
[02:22] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, yes. site is down.
[02:23] <__lEo___> I guess it's what we get for having our main support channel served by a windows  server :(
[02:24] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, last i checked, 2003 :'(
[02:25] <__lEo___> yesp, in netcraft, the stats for ubuntu forum.org is a reboot eveery few months, ower is once every few days, oh well
[02:25] <__lEo___> sorry, i meant ubuntuforums.org ... of course that is hosted by Canonical
[02:26] <__lEo___> I wonder why kubuntuforums couldn't be hosted there
[02:26] <__lEo___> being a special forum in ubuntuforums is not very enticing
[02:26] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, havent you heard? Canonical doesn't actually give much attention to KDE
[02:26] <__lEo___> well, yes
[02:26] <__lEo___> but I think they are nice folks
[02:26] <__lEo___> and they give official status to Kubuntu
[02:27] <maco> a reboot every few months? LOL
[02:27] <maco> ubuntuforums.org goes down every couple days
[02:27] <ign0ramus> __lEo___, ...as do I. But if they could implement KDE in Kubuntu like Arch or even OpenSUSE, I would weep with joy.
[02:27] <__lEo___> so I am sure they would accept hosting, I am not even sure who own kubuntuforums
[02:27] <maco> we've been begging for new db servers for ages because it cant handle the load
[02:27] <ign0ramus> APT ftw
[02:27] <__lEo___> we ... who maco?
[02:27] <maco> ign0ramus: the kubuntu team makes it a goal to stay as close to upstream as possible
[02:28] <maco> __lEo___: ubuntuforums.org moderators
[02:28] <maco> __lEo___: though i suppose those admin folks do more begging. we just get behind the admins going "right no, guys!"
[02:28] <maco> s/no/on/
[02:28] <__lEo___> I see, are you sure about going ... Ah, maybe the db goes down
[02:28] <__lEo___> the server I think not
[02:29] <maco> __lEo___: the db goes down constantly and then everyone going to the forums gets a big ol' error across the screen for 5 minutes to an hour depending on how long it takes to fix
[02:29] <maco> i was surprised to find that kubuntuforum.net even existed since there's always been kubuntu help on ubuntuforums
[02:30] <__lEo___> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=ubuntuforums.org
[02:30] <ign0ramus> maco, yes, but always as an afterthought :(
[02:30] <carpii_> maco, the answer is not always to throw hardware at it. you can probably memcache or optimise your queries
[02:30] <__lEo___> well, i have an account in ubuntuforums
[02:30] <__lEo___> it is definitely _the_ ubuntu resource
[02:30] <maco> carpii_: we deleted like 1/4 of the forum as a stop-gap measure
[02:30] <__lEo___> but for kubuntu stuff, kubuntuforums is a lot better
[02:31] <__lEo___> kde gets constantly bashed in ubuntuforums
[02:31] <maco> __lEo___: ! where?
[02:31] <maco> carpii_: ok actually...admins did deleting as mods cant :P
[02:31] <__lEo___> if someone asks for help for kubuntu, the usual answer I've found is "oh man, kde sucks, why are you running this"
[02:32] <__lEo___> I am not saying everyone is unfriendly
[02:32] <__lEo___> there are lots of wonderful people in ubuntuforums
[02:32] <__lEo___> but I find it a lot simpler to give help in kubuntuforums because you don;t have that extra load from the negativity
[02:32] <maco> carpii_: but a ton of very old stuff was deleted to try to help. the other-os forum was deleted (people were not happy).  AFAIK, all the optimizations anyone could come up with were done, its just too much data. complex queries can take > 5 minutes to run :(
[02:33] <__lEo___> yeah, searches ... quite frankly
[02:33] <__lEo___> isn't it better to outsurce to google?
[02:33] <__lEo___> that';s what i do in kubuntuforums
[02:33] <__lEo___> or ubuntuforums
[02:33] <carpii_> id never use mysql for searching
[02:33] <carpii_> use sphinx
[02:33] <__lEo___> i never search in the forums search box
[02:34] <carpii_> but really you need to understand where the load is coming from, it might not be searches but just bookkeeping
[02:34] <__lEo___> that could be the case carpii
[02:34] <maco> __lEo___: i wouldnt disagree with reporting such responses as trolling
[02:35] <__lEo___> but I'd just put a search box that really sends you to google, with "search" + site:ubuntuforums.org
[02:35] <__lEo___> or kubuntuforums.net
[02:35] <__lEo___> of course the search will miss the last couple days
[02:35] <__lEo___> but it's better than nothing
[02:35] <carpii_> goog,le is not always an option, if your forum needs users to register before they can read it
[02:36] <__lEo___> but this is not the case for either ubuntuforums or kubuntuforums
[02:36] <maco> i think at one point because queries were so bad we DID switch to google search
[02:36] <carpii_> maco, what is "show processlist" showing you in mysql ?
[02:36] <__lEo___> it may be an issues for other forums
[02:36] <carpii_> lEo, maybe, but are we taling about ubuntu forums ?
[02:36] <maco> carpii_: i have no db access since im a mod not an admin
[02:36] <carpii_> oki
[02:37] <__lEo___> yes, ubuntuforums.org. all the content can be accessed without being registered
[02:37] <__lEo___> anyways, it's amazing how far we went as a community
[02:37] <carpii_> oh ok, i thought we were talking about some unknown forum
[02:37] <__lEo___> we become mainstream
[02:37] <__lEo___> no, no
[02:38] <__lEo___> became mainstream, linux runs your phone, your gps, your netbook, amazing
[02:38] <__lEo___> most people in the world, I would say most people with access to electronics are running at least one thing with linux
[02:38] <maco> __lEo___: ok other mods agree with me. if someone says kde or kubuntu sucks and tells them to switch to ubuntu+gnome, report it as trolling
[02:39] <__lEo___> k, thanks Maco, I do hang out there
[02:39] <__lEo___> mostly for generic stuff, like hardware issues, etc
[02:39] <__lEo___> most times i give help, i'v ebeen running since 1995 :D
[02:40] <__lEo___> and i am too busy to contribute code these days
[02:40] <__lEo___> so ..., I like to give back here and there
[02:40] <__lEo___> does anyone know why quassel IRC is such a huge bloat?
[02:40] <__lEo___> like 55 mb download
[02:40] <__lEo___> it should be about 5 or 6
[02:41] <__lEo___> is there any nice plasmoid/widget to replace it?
[02:41] <__lEo___> particularly in my poor eee 701 with 4G disk
[02:41] <maco> just quassel is 55mb?
[02:41] <maco> or did you install quassel, quassel core, and quassel client?
[02:41]  * neonyoga waves
[02:42] <__lEo___> yes, i don't know wtf ... i mean, it is not supposed to have any big graphics to store or anything
[02:42] <__lEo___> let me check in synaptic
[02:42] <__lEo___> (I do use synaptic, kpackagekit is broken)
[02:43] <maco> brb, need to move clothes from washer to drier
[02:43] <__lEo___> the only two supported packages are quasel and quasel-data
[02:43] <__lEo___> and they get installed by the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[02:43] <__lEo___> sure
[02:43] <__lEo___> quassel alone is: 56.1M installed
[02:50] <genu> Hey, I just installed kubuntu, how do I enable my nvidia driver? I don't see my nvidia card in the restricted harware dialog...?
[02:53] <genu> Hey, I just installed kubuntu, how do I enable my nvidia driver? I don't see my nvidia card in the restricted harware dialog...?
[02:57] <__lEo___> it doesn't show?
[02:57] <__lEo___> did you enable all teh repositories?
[02:58] <__lEo___> software repositories
[02:58] <mrh0057> KDE Menu->Applications->System->Hardware Drivers
[03:00] <genu> Hey, I just installed KDE, and I don't see my nvidia driver on the restricted hardware driver screen....what do I have to do?
[03:03] <mrh0057> genu: install synaptic and goto Setttings->Repositories and select proprietary drivers for devices
[03:04] <genu> mrh0057: ok I will try that....currently I just clicked to update...so I can't access the settings right now
[03:05] <mrh0057> what's the model of your video card
[03:05] <maco> or just install xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
[03:06] <maco> oh...crudmuffins, mrh0057 has a point
[03:06] <genu> i have Nvidia 9500M GS
[03:06] <maco> they dont have only one restricted driver grrr
[03:06] <mrh0057> genu: it should be there and either one should work
[03:07] <genu> my restricted driver screen had nothing there....typically I it would have my videocard driver, where I would just enable it, and everything would be ok....I don't know why it doesn't show it now...
[03:08] <mrh0057> genu: apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[03:09] <mrh0057> genu: that will give you the latest driver that ubuntu ships with
[03:09] <genu> thx...i'll try that...
[03:13] <mrh0057> genu: make a backup of your /etc/x11/xorg.conf before you install it.
[03:13] <genu> k
[03:16] <genu> mrh0057: I've installed it, now what?
[03:16] <genu> I need to restart the xserver?
[03:23] <pod773> hello
[03:26] <genu> mrh0057: thx, I've got the driver to install now... :)
[03:26] <mrh0057> run glxinfo | more to make sure
[03:27] <genu> mrh0057: I have a secondary monitor, that I have enabled, its spanning the way it should be to it, but is it possible to flip the image on the secondary monitor vertically? as I have the monitor mounted upside down...
[03:27] <mrh0057> run nvidia-settings
[03:27] <genu> I ran into this problem a few months ago (thats why I had to go back to windwos)....
[03:27] <genu> ok..i'm in nvidia-settings
[03:28] <mrh0057> genu: there probably is but I never tried to do that before
[03:29] <genu> I'm in nvidia-settings now, hmm....I don't really see an option to "mirror" or flip, or anything...
[03:36] <mrh0057> genu: xrander might work
[03:37] <genu> k..thx...i'll look into it
[03:37] <mrh0057> genu: its xrandr
[03:37] <genu> o ok
[03:37] <mrh0057> Here is a forum posting about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682821
[03:39] <SJr> What is a decent mIRC replacement?
[03:40] <J-_> xchat
[03:40] <J-_> Quassel if you're using KDE
[03:41] <J-_> I didn't realize I was in the kubuntu channel. But yeah, go with Quassel.
[03:41] <J-_> Irssi is nice, too.
[03:42] <bhabalinux> hi
[03:42] <J-_> Hello
[03:45] <webbb> hey im trying to make a launcher but i cant find out how, in gnome all i have to do is right click on the desktop and pick new launcher but i dont know how in kde
[03:46] <mrh0057> webb: right-click->Add Widget->Application Launcher
[03:47] <SJr> Hmmmmm
[03:47] <SJr> Okay I'll look into those. Next question my preformance in KDE seems to suck for graphics,  like dragging windows around. I have a GeForce 7400, so I think that should be enough
[03:48] <webbb> no  not the menu  i want to create a file launcher so i can launch firefox 3.5 i downloaded from the net
[03:49] <mrh0057> webb: sorry that the wrong widget
[03:51] <webbb> so does anyone know how to create a file launcher so i can launch a program
[03:52] <mrh0057> webbb: you can create a folder view and add applications to launch from there
[03:52] <webbb> ok
[03:52] <webbb> but you cant create one like in gnome ?
[03:53] <mrh0057> webbb: I think they added a widget that can do that but I don't remember the name
[03:53] <webbb> ok  well thanks anyway
[03:55] <luis_> ei guys i downloaded audacity to edit some track, but now everytime i click in a mp3, audicity opens it, not amarok, how i can fix that?
[03:58] <luis_> ei guys i downloaded audacity to edit some tracks, but now everytime i click in a mp3, audicity opens it, not amarok, how i can fix that?
[03:59] <__lEo___> luis, go to system settings
[03:59] <__lEo___> and file associations
[03:59] <__lEo___> and you can set it there
[03:59] <__lEo___> another way is to go with dolphin to a place where you have an mp3
[03:59] <__lEo___> right click, Open With
[04:00] <__lEo___> and choose Amarok, and check the box that says "remember this"
[04:01] <luis_> yah but
[04:01] <luis_> in system settings
[04:01] <luis_> there is not an option to create a new mp3 manager
[04:01] <__lEo___> what?
[04:02] <__lEo___> Advanced -> File Associations
[04:02] <__lEo___> SJr, still there?
[04:02] <luis_> a w/e, already did it with dolphin
[04:02] <__lEo___> Do you have the nvidia "hardware driver" installed?
[04:02] <luis_> thx dude :)
[04:02] <__lEo___> :D
[04:03] <luis_> yes
[04:03] <luis_> y?
[04:03] <__lEo___> (luis, that question was for SJr, sorry)
[04:04] <luis_> oh LOL
[04:04] <__lEo___> (SJr was saying something about performance)
[04:04] <__lEo___> yeah, my fault, lol
[04:12] <SJr> Some widgets I'm still here
[04:12] <__lEo___> is anyone using kopete for irc?
[04:13] <__lEo___> i just realized i could use it instead of quassel
[04:13] <SJr> No
[04:13] <SJr> I hate linux IRC clients
[04:13] <__lEo___> which seems like a best at 60Mb for a simple IRC client
[04:14] <__lEo___> i don't hate them, but I'd love to see a widget for this
[04:14] <__lEo___> SJr, you were saying about performance
[04:14] <__lEo___> are you running the nvidia binary driver?
[04:15] <SJr> Yes
[04:15] <__lEo___> what's the card again?
[04:15] <SJr> 7400
[04:15] <__lEo___> IGP or dedicated card
[04:15] <__lEo___> geforce?
[04:15] <SJr> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[04:15] <SJr> IGP (Notebook)
[04:17] <__lEo___> i think with most IGP's you need to disable desktop effects to have good performance
[04:17] <__lEo___> is that your case? Are they on?
[04:17] <luis_> Ei IEo u use virtual box?
[04:18] <__lEo___> no no virtual box
[04:18] <luis_> i just installed it because i wanna use XP, but it says i need a ISO image of XP to use the SO, where i can get 1 free?
[04:18] <SJr> Yeah
[04:18] <SJr> They are on, that's why it sucks
[04:18] <SJr> Hmmmm I think I actually found the reason
[04:18] <SJr> GNOME is still running
[04:18] <__lEo___> SJ: try them off
[04:18] <FloodBotK2> SJr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <SJr> I want them on :)
[04:18] <luis_> LOL
[04:19] <SJr> How can gnome be running at the same time, that's weird
[04:19] <__lEo___> You can switch to another session I guess
[04:19] <__lEo___> and have GNOME on the backgroung
[04:19] <__lEo___> d
[04:19] <SJr> No but KDE is running too
[04:19] <SJr> I just noticed that when I right click on my desktop, I get the gnome context menu, and my background is controlled by Gnome too
[04:20] <__lEo___> I am not sure how you can do that. SJr
[04:31] <__lEo___> ah, probably kopete in Jaunty still doesn't do irc
[04:31] <claus> здрасти
[04:31] <__lEo___> I don't see the option
[04:31] <__lEo___> claus: I agree
[04:31] <__lEo___> :)
[04:32] <__lEo___> This will be awesome: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/IRC%20plasmoid%20mockup?content=108428
[04:33] <webbb> does anyone know of a good dock//app launcher
[04:34] <__lEo___> in 4.2 the quicklauncher was broken
[04:34] <__lEo___> now i am running 4.3
[04:34] <__lEo___> i can give it a shot
[04:34] <__lEo___> let me see
[04:34] <FloodBotK2> __lEo___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <__lEo___> now it is working nicely
[04:35] <__lEo___> you can drop an icon from the menu into the quick launcher
[04:35] <__lEo___> and get it in the quick launcher
[04:36] <webbb> i really understoof that
[04:38] <__lEo___> well, sorry for wating your time, it was broken before
[04:47] <jcrx> hi there
[04:48] <jcrx> Im using kubuntu jaunty
[04:48] <jcrx> on a PC with Ati 9250
[04:48] <jcrx> and cant set the resolution
[04:48] <jcrx> every time I restart
[04:48] <jcrx> it returnd to 800x600
[04:48] <jcrx> it returnd to 800x600
[04:48] <jcrx> any help?
[04:50] <carpii_> try tweaking the refresh rate limits in xorg.conf
[04:50] <carpii_> sometimes the auto-detect monitor feature does a real crumby job
[04:51] <jcrx> hmm so how could i do it?
[04:51] <jcrx> i ried puttin Option "Panel Size" "1024x768"
[04:51] <jcrx> but nothing
[04:52] <carpii_> its not the resolution necessarily
[04:52] <carpii_> it might be the refresh rate
[04:52] <jcrx> hmm how could I wirte that instruction on the Device section on xorg ?
[04:53] <pxwebdev> how can I view as folders group setting within konsole?
[04:53] <pxwebdev> *a
[04:53] <carpii_> jcrx, heres mine
[04:53] <carpii_> http://nopaste.com/p/agMBvrhEQ
[04:53] <carpii_> but i cant really talk you through it, sorry
[04:53] <carpii_> just try the Horiz Refresh and the modes etc
[04:53] <carpii_> see if it helps
[04:54] <jcrx> ok, ill try it
[04:54] <jcrx> thnx
[04:55] <pxwebdev> how can you see the groups assigned to a particular folder from terminal?
[05:02] <jcrx> is it the jaunty version stable?
[05:03] <webbb> anyone know of a good dock for kde
[05:05] <maco> jcrx: what's the output of the "xrandr" command?
[05:05] <maco> pxwebdev: ls -l foo (where foo is the folder's name). there will be a column of owner and right after it the column of its group
[05:05] <maco> oh its been a while...
[05:06] <maco> well if you see this, the xrandr command lets you change screen settings. may need to add a mode, but the manpage describes how to do that
[05:15] <jcrx> xrandr ?
[05:15] <jcrx> hmm i konw it.. Ill try to put it on the start options
[05:44] <mostafa> when I click on the Leave Button at the right-botton of the menu
[05:45] <webbb> whats the best app launcher / dock for kde
[05:46] <mostafa> it shows the shutdown notification very late for example 10 sec
[05:46] <mostafa> can anybody explain it?
[05:47] <mostafa> webbb: what do you want exactly?
[05:47] <webbb> a good dock  or app launcher  so i dont have to use the kmenu
[05:49] <mostafa> webbb: do you use krunner?
[05:49] <webbb> mostafa: ya but i want somthing more likie a  dock  like in mac osx
[05:50] <mostafa> webbb: I don't use mac os and of course I don't know dock can you explain it to me?
[05:51] <webbb> its a little menu that sits on youor desktop that holds apps for you so you can just click on the icon and launch the pp without  opening  the menu
[05:54] <mostafa> webbb: see this link and tell me is it dock that you mean?
[05:54] <mostafa> http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/d/docks_for_mac-224157-1237876837.jpeg
[05:54] <webbb> kinda like that
[05:54] <gh> I have tried both the 9.04 livecd/dvd and neither are able to use my ethernet(intelpro100). Looking a the dmesg shows the card is recognized, but the widget/menu does not see the card and all attempts with ifconfig have failed.
[05:56] <mostafa> webbb: do you add the widget "Folder view"?
[05:57] <webbb> ya
[05:57] <mostafa> webbb: and it is useless for your goal?
[05:57] <gh> I have not had the same problem with other *buntus, other distributions, or operating systems.
[05:57] <webbb> it works i just wwwanted somthing better
[05:58] <mostafa> webbb: can you say what capabality does dock have that folder view doesn't?
[05:59] <webbb> http://wiki.awn-project.org/
[06:00] <webbb> look at that
[06:07] <mostafa> webbb: I see it then why you don't install awn?
[06:10] <mostafa> webbb: r u there?
[06:12] <mostafa> does anybody have the same problem as me? when I click on the Leave Button at the right-botton of the menu (that comes up with alt+f1)
[06:13] <mostafa> it lates to show the shutdown or other notification?
[06:13] <mostafa> just I want to know that others have the same problem or not?
[06:14] <mostafa> to all: nobody answer? :(
[06:25] <cesar_> hola
[06:27] <darthanubis> !patience |mostafa
[06:28] <mostafa> ubottu: thanx bro ;) :D
[06:29] <mostafa> ubottu: I just appreciate your response
[06:29] <mostafa> :D
[06:47] <sayakb> hello! I added the kubuntu-ppa to get kde 4.3 and i now have broken packages. it stops on kdebase-workspace-dev
[06:47] <sayakb> i am left with the tty's and nothing else. any way to solve it other than reinstalling kubuntu?
[06:52] <J-_> sayakb: Did you, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[06:52] <sayakb> J-_: as I added those from ppa, those upgrades were not available from upgrade, so I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:53] <J-_> So you're trying to upgrade to another release?
[06:53] <sayakb> nope, just upgrade to kde 4.3
[06:54] <sayakb> dist-upgrade will also install backports, and 4.3 is backported in kubuntu
[06:54] <J-_> Ah I see, I dunno then. It's the reason why I never uograde. I always reinstall.
[06:54] <sayakb> ok, np
[06:55] <J-_> !upgrade
[06:55] <J-_> Not sure if that says anything
[06:55] <sayakb> only if I could open those, stuck with my tty's, so no X
[06:56] <J-_> links2
[06:56] <sayakb> i do have links2, hm. thanks, i'll read them
[06:56] <J-_> I doubt they'll say anything though. They might! heh
[06:56] <J-_> !upgrade
[06:57] <sayakb> heh ok
[06:57] <J-_> crap, that was the first one I did. :( I'm tired.
[06:57] <J-_> I'm going to bed
[07:01] <martin___> hi! i'm new to kde and still working my way around here
[07:01] <martin___> how do i do to use EMERALD/COMPIZ on kde?
[07:01] <martin___> I mena, I have a theme installed but Oxygen is still the default them
[07:01] <martin___> e
[07:02] <martin___> any help welcome!
[07:02] <sayakb> martin___: compiz --replace should make them default
[07:02] <sayakb> --replace replaces the current window manager
[07:02] <martin___> sayakb: hi! I used to think it was emerald --replace =P let me c
[07:14] <pavan_> Is their a KDE alternative to GTKpod?
[07:14] <pavan_> s/their/there/
[07:43] <pheonix> hi sara
[07:43] <saleem> Hello friends
[07:54] <aaron11>  can i can some one help
[08:07] <sergiu> hi to all from Moldova
[08:40] <cheng> Hello, guys. i can't use kopete to login msn. The error messnage is "operation is not supported". Who had the same error
[08:41] <cheng> version: kde 3.5.10 kopete 0.12.7
[08:42] <cheng> i want to know whether something is changed or not. One week before it worked well.
[08:44] <cheng> am i lost?
[09:31] <SJr> Plasma all of a sudden crashed, and then now I can no longer enable Plasma, after switching my monitor settings with Nvidia
[09:31] <SJr> My xorg.conf hasn't been touched in months
[09:32] <SJr> Errrr sorry, I can no longer enable desktop effects, I get a message saying "Composting is temporarily disabled"
[09:32] <SJr> If I try to force it, I just get a grey screen
[09:35] <SJr> Argh that's lame
[09:35] <SJr> basically if I switch my desktop settings with Composting enabled, it will die afterwards
[09:35] <SJr> if I disable it manually, then reenable it, I'll be okay
[09:38] <mike> hello
[09:39] <Guest11102> i got told by some1 here about nvidia drivers to type sudo apt-get install nvidia-common and it wont up date
[09:39] <Guest37124> i have some problems with video
[09:40] <Guest37124> i installed nvidia drivers and X doesn't start anymore
[09:40] <Guest11102> ya i no i had that problem and my computer wouldnt boot so i had ro reinstall eveything
[09:40] <Guest37124> nooooooooooo
[09:41] <Guest37124> this is not the solution
[09:41] <Guest11102> im saying what i had to do coz my computer wouldnt boot
[09:41] <Guest37124> now i change drivers to vesa in xorg.conf i killed kdm and then use startx and works
[09:42] <Guest11102> ive got like 6 screens waiting to be used
[09:44] <michaelc> heyy Cybertinus
[09:46] <Cybertinus> hi michaelc
[09:46] <michaelc> anyone no about nvida drivers
[09:52] <arash> I am new to Kubuntu.How should I install a program like firefox-3.5.2.tar.bz2 ? I should just untar and find the script that runs it ? How should I introduce to OS as default browser and tell to place it in desktop or start menu ?
[09:57] <michaelc> arash extract it to your desktop
[09:58] <michaelc> when done  lemmie no
[09:59] <arash> michaelc: I meant how should I register it with OS ? So it knows this is my browser?
[10:00] <arash> michaelc : I have extract it to desktop.Now what should i do?
[10:02] <michaelc> arash: you want to install it right
[10:02] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:02] <arash> michaelc : yes..
[10:02] <michaelc> open terminal and then put this in it cd ~/Desktop/folderName && ./configure && make && sudo make install
[10:02] <michaelc> change foldername to its folder
[10:02] <lifeofguenter> anybody success with multiple monitor setup on kde4.3 / kubuntu karmic alpha4 ?
[10:02] <arash> michaelc : thanks man.I will try it now..
[10:03] <michaelc> arash:  any trobles lemmie no
[10:03] <michaelc> lifeofguenter: aright what grapics card do you have
[10:04] <lifeofguenter> ati, i have direct rendering, and I used to do it with xrandr in gnome/xfce
[10:04] <lifeofguenter> but I decided to give karmic / kde a try.. unfortunately since karmic there is not even a xorg.conf anymore
[10:05] <michaelc> lifeofguenter: hmm im not sure on that 1 have you tryed googleing it
[10:05] <arash> michaelc: it returns error on ./configure
[10:05] <arash> arash@arash:~/Desktop/firefox$ ./configure
[10:05] <arash> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:05] <lifeofguenter> under system settings -> display -> multiple monitors it basically says (like reported in forums.kde) that I do not have it configured.. but it does not give any advice how and where I can do that ;)
[10:05] <michaelc> ok do this
[10:05] <michaelc> whats the folder called
[10:05] <arash> firefox
[10:05] <lifeofguenter> arash: why do you want to compile firefox?
[10:06] <lifeofguenter> if you downloaded the tar from the official site you don't need to compile it
[10:06] <arash> i dont want to compile . I want to register it with os
[10:06] <michaelc> arash: cd ~/Desktop/firefox   then  make   then sodo make install
[10:06] <michaelc> sudo*
[10:06] <lifeofguenter> afaik firefox does not provide any makefile
[10:07] <michaelc> lifeofguenter: it had it when i domne mine
[10:07] <arash> yea it hasnt any
[10:07] <michaelc> done*
[10:08] <arash> no it doesnt have make.make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:08] <lifeofguenter> arash: just unpack it to /opt/firefox
[10:08] <lifeofguenter> go to "System Settings" -> "Default Applications"
[10:08] <michaelc> arash: have you tryed synaptic packet manager
[10:08] <lifeofguenter> make a symlink to /usr/local/bin/firefox
[10:08] <arash> No its my first time booting with Kubuntu
[10:08] <lifeofguenter> and put under web browser "firefox" as custom app
[10:08] <michaelc> it has firefox there
[10:08] <lifeofguenter> then every link you click will be opened by firefox
[10:09] <lifeofguenter> I would not install the firefox-3.5 package of kubuntu
[10:09] <arash> thanks ..let me see how it works out.
[10:09] <lifeofguenter> it installs many gnome dependencies which are not needed
[10:09] <arash> why ?
[10:09] <lifeofguenter> afaik broken package for kde/kubuntu
[10:09] <lifeofguenter> ehm not afaik but imho
[10:09] <michaelc> well i see you guys in a bit need to pop to the shop
[10:09] <lifeofguenter> ok cu later michaelc :)
[10:10] <arash> so you mean I should continue with Konquerer?
[10:10] <lifeofguenter> no I just meant you should not install it with apt-get/e.g. using the official kubuntu repository
[10:10] <arash> aha.
[10:10] <lifeofguenter> go to mozilla.com, grab a tar, unpack in /opt/, make symlink, set as default browser
[10:10] <lifeofguenter> and you are fine :)
[10:15] <kavurt> arash, try ubuntuzilla
[10:15] <arash> it doesnt extract to /opt !
[10:15] <arash> i extract it to desktop or other folder, when i try opt it creates nothing.
[10:15] <lifeofguenter> you have to do it with sudo
[10:16] <lifeofguenter> though its only adviceable not mandatory.. in fact you can just leave it on desktop.. but I like my system clean :)
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> hmm interesting projects, thanks kavurt
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> -s
[10:18] <kavurt> i just installed 3.5, very easy
[10:24] <arash> kavurt i downloaded ubuntuzilla-4.7.4-0ubuntu1-i386.deb from sourceforge. click it then after a while syas install successful . but where deos it install it ??
[10:29] <kavurt> arash, type ubuntuzilla.py in a terminal
[10:30] <kavurt> and follow options
[10:31] <sercik> someone can help how to upgrade alsa from source?
[10:32] <sercik> i need latest version for linuxmce alpha
[10:32] <arash> thanks kavurt it seems sometihng is happening.
[10:32] <kavurt> np, it will install perfectly, don't worry
[10:34] <sercik> please a little help on how to install alsa 1.20 on ubuntu
[10:35] <arash> btw my desktop icons has disappeard .I cant find a way to get them back in settings
[10:36] <arash> its not in settings->look&feel ->desktop
[10:41] <tsimpson> arash: right click the desktop, Desktop Settings, change "Type" from "Desktop" to "Folder View"
[10:44] <arash> tsimpson: there is not desktop settings when I right click. in appearence / desktop also this option you mentioned does not exist
[10:44] <tsimpson> arash: not in system settings, from right clicking on the desktop
[10:45] <arash> i know.i right click on dektop and there wasnt dektop settings in the menu ,
[10:45] <tsimpson> what version of KDE do you have?
[10:45] <arash> Kubuntu 9.04
[10:46] <arash> Version 4.2.2
[10:46] <tsimpson> what is the last menu option you see when you right click the desktop?
[10:47] <arash> the last one is Leave
[10:47] <arash> (shutdown)
[10:55] <arash> resolved thanks..
[11:19] <apparle> hi guys
[11:19] <nstar7> hey
[11:19] <apparle> I use kate for editing c files........Can I get a direct shortcut to make them
[11:19] <apparle> I mean hotkey
[11:20] <apparle> Or do I have to open console and type make??
[11:21] <tsimpson> don't think so, Kate is not an (full) IDE
[11:21] <lifeofguenter> anybody here in karmic already?
[11:22] <tsimpson> the're are lots of karmic users in #ubuntu+1
[11:22] <tsimpson> s/'re/
[11:23] <lifeofguenter> ubuntu+1?
[11:23] <apparle> tsimpson: but isn't there anyways to assingn shorcuts to direct commands in kate??
[11:23] <lifeofguenter> cool thanks tsimpson
[11:24] <tsimpson> apparle: I'm not sure, I've never really looked for it. the closest thing I see is "Pipe to terminal"
[11:25] <apparle> tsimpson: can you suggest a good ide for gcc-avr then
[11:25] <tsimpson> gcc-avr?
[11:30] <apparle> tsimpson: for embedded system programming
[11:31] <tsimpson> if it's just C with a specific compiler, most IDEs should work
[11:31] <tsimpson> !ide
[11:32] <tsimpson> I tend to use QtCreator (Qt development) or KDevelop
[11:34] <apparle> tsimpson: Kate is shown in ide
[11:35] <tsimpson> it's not a full IDE though, it's a text editor with syntax highlighting
[11:40] <apparle> and any tool to generate makefiles...........................or any tutorial to write make files
[11:41] <tsimpson> there is autoconf/automake, qmake and cmake to generate Makefiles
[11:44] <apparle> tsimpson: but they must be for gcc and not for embedded systems......or can they be configured
[11:45] <tsimpson> in all of them, you can specify the compiler executable
[11:45] <tsimpson> cmake is probably the easiest and most portable to work with
[11:53] <pescado> hello
[11:53] <pescado> can anybody tell me which desktop is better gnome or kde
[11:53] <pescado> can i use gnome with kubuntu
[11:57] <tsimpson> pescado: it depends on which you prefer, and you can use both gnome and KDE on the same system
[12:02] <apparle> pescado: if you are going to use gnome on kubuntu then what's the point.........straight way use ubuntu
[12:03] <apparle> tsimpson: can you plz tell me the web page of cmake
[12:03] <tsimpson> apparle: cmake.org
[12:03] <apparle> also: how to install http://www.sax.de/~joerg/mfile/
[12:06] <tsimpson> apparle: download the tar.gz and read the README file
[12:07] <apparle> I didn't understand it so I was asking
[12:13] <tsimpson> apparle: you need to install tk8.5, edit mfile.tcl to have "#!/usr/bin/wish" then edit makefile_template and run mfile.tcl
[12:15] <apparle> tsimpson: thanks.......................can you suggest any simple editor with configurable commands............I know programmers notepad in windows.........can you suggest anything similar
[12:16] <tsimpson> apparle: you should ask in #kde if Kate does it, it may. if not then you'll want some form of IDE
[12:16] <apparle> tsimpson: I'll try........thanks
[12:18] <apparle> I installed arora in 9.04 and configured ti to use proxy but it is not open any webpage
[12:32] <apparle> tsimpson: no response from kde
[12:51] <agaton> Hello. Anyone able to give me a little apache-config-help?
[12:58] <__lEo___> apparle: did you install arora from the kubuntu repos?
[13:35] <pm2> I upgraded to Kubuntu Jaunty using KDE 4, and it looks like I no longer have the necessary program to access wireless networks.  What program do I need to install?
[13:39] <llutz> pm2:  try wicd
[13:41] <heo> When I try to  open a browser, the error message occurs "Cannot open ...
[13:41] <heo> ... display:". What does it mean?
[13:42] <llutz> heo:  you are not owner of that X-session, trying that as root?
[13:42] <llutz> heo:  do it as user, no reason to use a browser as root
[13:42] <heo> llutz: probably, I change the user, but both  users should have sudo access
[13:42] <heo> *changed
[13:43] <heo> *have
[13:44] <pm2> llutz, that'll do it - thanks
[13:44] <heo> llutz: I cannot understand your point. How can I switch to other user ...
[13:44] <heo> ... without    su other_user  ?
[13:45] <llutz> heo kdesu/kdesudo, sux, lot's of ways to change user AND x-permissions
[13:48] <heo> llutz: are gnomesu/gnomesudo equivalent? why are  they  not readily ...
[13:48] <heo> ... installed?
[13:51] <llutz> heo:  no clue, i'm not a dev, better ask them. maybe because there are hardly reasons to use x-apps as root
[13:52] <heo> llutz: are your suggestions about running  x-apps as root?
[13:53] <heo> if so, is there some other way to circcumvent the error "Cannot open ...
[13:53] <heo> ... display."?
[13:54] <hayet> hi ... what is admin password on kubuntu plz?
[13:55] <llutz> heo: you always have to set xauthority rights correct if trying to start a x-app, if you are not owner of running x-session
[13:56] <llutz> heo:  that's what kdesu/kdesudo, sux and all those tools do
[13:56] <J2daosh> anyone in here have experience with mysql?
[13:56] <J2daosh> no i dont want to go to the mysql room, they wont give me the answer
[13:56] <J2daosh> lol
[13:57] <hayet> plz help me ...
[13:57] <J2daosh> i just want to know if mysql ever spits out the passwords in plaintext.
[13:57] <llutz> hayet:  use sudo, no real root-account available by default
[13:58] <J2daosh> im trying to hack my test box so i can learn how it was done so yeah. i have malicious intent, but i own it so its fine
[13:59] <hayet> i test sudo, admin, root, adminadmin and my user session password nothing good :(
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <llutz> hayet:  sudo is a program, not a "password"
[13:59] <hayet> i coudn't install nothing, it ask me an administrative privilege pwd
[14:00] <hayet> how could i resolve this pb
[14:00] <llutz> hayet:  use your user-password if prompted for a password
[14:00] <hayet> i do it llutz
[14:01] <hayet> so it don't function
[14:02] <Dragnslcr> Are you sure your user has sudo access?
[14:02] <drvoodoo> hayet: your standard user account (which was created by installation) has administrative privileges in combination with the sudo-command
[14:02] <hayet> i don't know i'm a newbie on linux
[14:03] <drvoodoo> so every command, which needs administrative privileges must begin with a prepended sudo
[14:04] <drvoodoo> and the promted password is your user password
[14:04] <heo> llutz: Thank you. Got it running :)
[14:04] <hayet> sorry it's not my computer and i have'nt install it
[14:05] <hayet> i'm french so i'm in hollydays in italia
[14:05] <hayet> and i help my friend
[14:05] <Dragnslcr> If you aren't using the account that was created when Kubuntu was installed, then you probably don't have sudo access
[14:05] <hayet> it is his computer
[14:06] <hayet> how could i transform an user account to sudo
[14:06] <Dragnslcr> You'd need root access
[14:06] <hayet> how get root acces?
[14:07] <Dragnslcr> With an account that has it
[14:07] <llutz> hayet:  ask owner of that computer
[14:07] <hayet> he is in london that is the pb
[14:07] <Dragnslcr> Obviously a normal user being able to give themselves root access would be a massive security hole
[14:09] <Dragnslcr> You might be able to use a Live CD to get permission to modifier the sudoers file, but if you don't know what you're doing, it can be pretty dangerous
[14:09] <hayet> ok... another question ... could i extract the wpa keys from kubuntu
[14:10] <hayet> coz i have my computer windows and i coudn't connect coz i have not the keys
[14:10] <hayet> only on this kubuntu coòputer
[14:10] <Dragnslcr> Maybe, but I don't know what file they're stored in
[14:10] <eitreach_> How do I share a folder via Samba in KDE 4.3?
[14:10] <Dragnslcr> And they're most likely stored encrypted
[14:11] <hayet> is there a software to retreive this key like wpaviewer on windows
[14:11] <Dragnslcr> eitreach_- I know Dolphin has an interface for it in a directory's Properties dialog, but I haven't used it, so I don't know how well it works
[14:12] <eitreach_> Dragnslcr: I've found something in there, but when I click it, nothing happens.
[14:14] <Dragnslcr> eitreach_- I don't know, sorry. Like I said, I've never used it, I just know it's there
[14:29] <hayet> bye
[14:50] <timdl> hello. Im using Kubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) . In my Keyboard and Mouse settings , Ron Konsole is defined as Ctrl+Alt+T . But still, when i press Ctrl+Alt+T Konsole does not open
[14:50] <timdl> any way to fix this ?
[14:57] <elkuro> bonjours a tyous
[15:07] <Phrea> hello
[15:07] <Phrea> I have a quick question that's prob been asked a thousand times...
[15:08] <Phrea> is KDE 4.3 already implemented in Kubuntu 9.04 or do I have to wait a bit before downloading 9.04?
[15:08] <tsimpson> Phage: did you read the topic?
[15:08] <Phrea> yes
[15:09] <Phrea> but it isnt really clear
[15:09] <Phrea> [also clicked the links]
[15:09] <tsimpson> read the news link
[15:11] <Phrea> from what I gather, one has to upgrade after installing Kubuntu?
[15:11] <Phrea> [forgive me my ignorance]
[15:11] <tsimpson> "Users of our stable 9.04 release can install it from the Kubuntu Backports PPA."
[15:12] <Guest33017> how do i change my microphone device
[15:12] <Phrea> I read that bit :)
[15:12] <michaelc> i dont have a clue new to this
[15:12] <Phrea> I'll go with that I'll have to upgrade to 4.3 after install of Kubuntu
[15:12] <tsimpson> Phage: do you have KDE installed now?
[15:12] <Phrea> thank you for your time, patience and help
[15:13] <michaelc> can someone help me change my microhone device
[15:14] <tsimpson> !audio
[15:14] <tsimpson> eek, that's a little old
[15:14] <Phrea> tsimpson: if you are meaning me: no, I'm waiting for a hardware upgrade, before I install Kubuntu
[15:14] <tsimpson> Phage: so what do you have now?
[15:14] <tsimpson> did it again...
[15:14] <Phrea> I'm Phrea :)
[15:14] <tsimpson> Phrea
[15:15] <tsimpson> yes, tab-completion fail
[15:15] <Phrea> the pc I'm planning on installing it runs off of a live cd atm
[15:15] <michaelc> my menu is diffent
[15:15] <michaelc> i have ultimate edition
[15:15] <tsimpson> michaelc: try the first link
[15:16] <Phrea> so if it would be worth it to wait a few days/weeks to download kubuntu if KDE 4.3 then is implemented, I'll have some more patience :)
[15:16] <Phrea> first time linux user, planning on completely going away from windows on that pc
[15:17] <michaelc> hmmm i just want to chage my microphone decive to my usb microphone
[15:17] <michaelc> device*
[15:17] <tsimpson> Phrea: you won't get a CD with 4.3, unless you get Karmic development release
[15:17] <Phrea> aha, that's immediately clear :)
[15:17] <Phrea> thank you
[15:18] <tsimpson> but you can upgrade KDE 4.2 to 4.3 when you install Jaunty
[15:18] <Phrea> yes, I've been reading, just wondered about this question I had :)
[15:18] <tsimpson> michaelc: there should be info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[15:19] <Phrea> is it OK of I hang around for a while to learn the channel a bit, I'm bound to have loads of questions after installing
[15:19] <tsimpson> sure, anyone is welcome here :)
[15:20] <Phrea> this channel is for novices and guru's alike?
[15:20] <Phrea> or is there maybe a dedicated novice channel?
[15:20] <tsimpson> this is a general Kubuntu support channel, so it has both
[15:21] <tsimpson> people ask questions in the hope someone knows the answer
[15:21] <Phrea> thanks :)
[15:38] <michaelc> anyone no how to update wine in terminal
[15:39] <michaelc> please help someone
[15:41] <Dragnslcr> Doesn't it update just like any other package?
[15:42] <michaelc> Dragnslcr: i have a old version
[15:42] <michaelc> Dragnslcr: is there a update command
[15:42] <Mamarok> michaelc: if you do a regular upgrade then a newer version will come in if available for your distribution version
[15:42] <Mamarok> update* I menat, of course
[15:43] <michaelc> Mamarok: whats the update command
[15:43] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get update
[15:43] <Mamarok> to update the package database, then:
[15:43] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:44] <michaelc> i have 39 upgrades
[15:44] <michaelc> think because its just been installed
[15:45] <michaelc> Mamarok: is there a command just to update wine
[15:46] <Mamarok> michaelc: well, no, as an upgrade get's you all the upgradeable packages
[15:46] <michaelc> Mamarok: ok thanks
[15:46] <Mamarok> michaelc: if there is no wine showing up after that, then there is no newer version vor your distribution version
[15:46] <beagleburt> G'day everyone from New Zealand - is this the coorect channel to ask Questions about Konqeror?
[15:46] <Mamarok> for*
[15:47] <Mamarok> !ask | beagleburt
[15:48] <Spitzname> n'abend
[15:48] <max_> hello all i am sorry for disturb you and for my bad english , i shearch the irc server for hackbbs ? thanks you for help my
[15:48] <Mamarok> !de | Spitzname
[15:49] <Mamarok> max_: no idea, this is the Kubuntu support channel, you should google
[15:49] <max_> ok thanks you
[15:49] <max_> bye all
[15:50] <kirankumar> hello
[15:50] <beagleburt> How do I get online with Konqueror? am using Kubuntu 8.04 LTS. (I can surf with Firefox ok)
[15:50] <michaelc> when i was with linuxmint i had no trobles with microphone and wine then i installed this and i have like 6 problems
[15:51] <michaelc> nvidia drivers micharophone and wine etc
[15:51] <kirankumar> hey what is this IRC ...???
[15:52] <Mamarok> kirankumar: read the channel topic, please
[15:56] <eitreach> Is it a known bug that KDE 4.3 can't see an external drive before it is accessed via the sidebar in Dolphin or application launcher?
[15:56] <apparle> hi guys
[15:56] <apparle> I am unable to conenct to gmail using konqueror
[15:56] <apparle> and arora doesn't connect to any site
[15:57] <Mamarok> apparle: konqueror can only use basic html in Gmail
[15:57] <Mamarok> else it's too slow
[15:57] <apparle> but it is not even showing the login page
[15:57] <Mamarok> eitreach: yep, but that is always so, a device has to be mounted to be able to access it
[15:58] <eitreach> Mamarok: I see. Can I have it automount during startup? That would save me a lot of problems in Amarok as well.
[15:58] <Mamarok> apparle: then you have a settings problem, are you sure everything is installed correctly?
[15:58] <Mamarok> eitreach: you can install automount, of course, but that is not very secure
[15:59] <eitreach> Mamarok: How so? Pardon the questions, but I've just been using Gnome for an amazing long time.
[15:59] <apparle> Mamarok: I can connect to google but neither gmail not orkut
[16:01] <Mamarok> eitreach: I think there is a package for it, let me see
[16:02] <apparle> Mamarok: Also I can't connect using arora at all
[16:02] <bittin> Hello, somone here knows anything about wvdail iam trying to get an Huawei E1550 to work
[16:02] <Mamarok> eitreach: check the package usbmount
[16:02] <eitreach> Mamarok: oh, I meant how it wasn't secure.
[16:02] <eitreach> Mamarok: thanks. :)
[16:02] <Mamarok> apparle: then you have a connection settings problem I guess, can you ping google.com from a komsole?
[16:03] <Mamarok> eitreach: you are welcome
[16:04] <robin0800> bittin: try kppp or gnome-ppp
[16:04] <bittin> robin0800: k
[16:04] <bittin> robin0800: i tried with wvdail
[16:05] <apparle> Mamarok: how to ping............by using 'ping google.com'??
[16:05] <robin0800> bittin: gnome-ppp is a front end for wvdial
[16:05] <bittin> ok
[16:05] <Mamarok> apparle: yes, just type that in a konsole window
[16:06] <bittin> robin0800: installed it now
[16:06] <beagleburt> Mamarok: I am having problems with Konqueror also - can not get online at all...can do so with Firefox
[16:07] <bittin> it dosen't find my modem :(
[16:07] <Mamarok> what Kubuntu version?
[16:07] <Mamarok> beagleburt: ^
[16:07] <robin0800> bittin: you need to run it as root or it won't start pppd
[16:07] <bittin> :o
[16:07] <apparle> Mamarok: I am getting uknow host
[16:07] <beagleburt> Mamarok: version 8.04 LTS
[16:08] <Mamarok> apparle: then something is wrong with your network settings, what network connection do you use?
[16:08] <apparle> Mamarok: LAN with proxy server
[16:08] <Mamarok> apparle: then you should check your proxy settings, apprently that doesn't let you through
[16:08] <Mamarok> beagleburt: what network connection do yu use?
[16:08] <Mamarok> you*, sry
[16:09] <bittin> robin0800: gnome-ppp is not finding my modem but lsusb finds it and its blinking blue that is according to the manual when it finds a 3G Network
[16:09] <apparle> Mamarok: but I can connect to google.com..............but not to gmail.com......
[16:09] <beagleburt> Mamarok: dialup external modem 56k; "Firestarter" firewall
[16:10] <Mamarok> apparle: wait, you can open the http://www.google.com website but not the gmail one?
[16:10] <robin0800> bittin: what settings have you uesed in gnome-ppp?
[16:10] <bittin> was trying to detect the modem and it saied no modem
[16:10] <Mamarok> beagleburt: ouch, I have no idea about that, but you surely need to install something ppp related
[16:11] <apparle> Mamarok: exactly
[16:11] <bittin> and Type: USB Modem
[16:11] <Mamarok> apparle: then it could be a gmail server problem, you don't see the login screen?
[16:11] <beagleburt> Mamarok: but I can surf ok with Firefox????
[16:11] <apparle> Mamarok: and I can open some other sites also like ubuntu or sourceforge etc
[16:12] <christian_lappy> hey guys
[16:12] <bittin> Hello
[16:12] <apparle> Mamarok: but gmail works alright when I try to open it in windows
[16:12] <christian_lappy> is it already recommended to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 alpha 4 ?
[16:12] <Mamarok> apparle: it works here for me, so it could well be either a firewall or a proxy setting that doesn't let you connect
[16:12] <bittin> if you are exprimental
[16:13] <Mamarok> apparle: that's not comparable, you need to check the proxy settings, that's most likely the problem
[16:13] <bittin> robin0800: are it ok to pm you?
[16:13] <Mamarok> christian_lappy: no, that is *never* recommended :)
[16:13] <robin0800> bittin: yes
[16:13] <christian_lappy> Mamarok: lol
[16:13] <christian_lappy> Mamarok: is 9.10 alpha 4 already usable or full of showstopper bugs ?
[16:14] <Mamarok> christian_lappy: if you want to t4est and can live with alpha software that can break on a daily basis, then you are free to do so, support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:14] <apparle> Mamarok: I don't know abt a firewall because I have just installed kubutnu
[16:14] <apparle> Mamarok: Can you help me setup arora
[16:14] <eitreach> Mamarok: usbmount didn't do the trick. :( I still have to click my drive in Dolphin's sidebar to make it visible to programs.
[16:14] <Mamarok> apparle: but you are behind a proxy, so you need to change your proxy settings in Kubuntu I guess
[16:15] <Mamarok> eitreach: that is due to the fact that there are more than one option to open a USB drive for
[16:15] <Mamarok> eitreach: you can add it to the /etc/fstab though to get it mounted on startup
[16:15] <Mamarok> apparle: I don't know Arora, sorry
[16:16] <eitreach> Mamarok: I just don't understand that Gnome mounts it automatically, but KDE does not.
[16:16] <Mamarok> eitreach: different paradigms
[16:16] <eitreach> and putting it in fstab will make it mount in KDE? Just so I understand..
[16:16] <apparle> Mamarok: I have done that...............thats why I am able to chat with you using "webchat.freenode.net"
[16:17] <Mamarok> apparle: well, then I don't know, I am not very savvy in proxy settings
[16:18] <Mamarok> eitreach: you can edit the Device Actions in the systemsettings -> Advanced Tab to choose the default action
[16:19] <drvoodoo> hello everybody. i have trouble with krdc, can't connect via vnc. i can't choose the vnc-protocoll  anymore. the automatic detection finds the other machine, but wenn i want to connect it says "The entered address can not be processed" (translated from german)
[16:19] <Mamarok> eitreach: yes, the /etc/fstab set's the mount options on startup for all devices, using the UUID settings is recommended, so it doesn't depend on one particular USB port
[16:20] <eitreach> Alright..
[16:21] <apparle> tsimpson: can you plz tell me how to start mfile gain http://www.sax.de/~joerg/mfile/
[16:23] <tsimpson> apparle: just run the mfile.tcl script, after editing the "set prefix" line to where the script is
[16:24] <apparle> tsimpson: how to run the script
[16:25] <tsimpson> from a terminal, go to the directory it's in, and type ./mfile.tcl
[16:26] <tsimpson> or you can type in the full path in Alt-F2
[16:26] <apparle> I get bash: ./mfile.tcl: /usr/local/bin/tixwish: bad interpreter: No such file or directoryn
[16:28] <tsimpson> apparle: you need to change the 1st line to "#!/usr/bin/wish"
[16:29] <tsimpson> and make sure you have tk8.5 installed
[16:29] <apparle> tsimpson: got it thanks
[16:31] <kaddi> !wicd
[16:31] <apparle> tsimpson: can you help with arora web browser
[16:32] <kaddi> how do i get the wicd packages for intrepid, when the intrepid can't get online? Every guide I can find only describes how to add in the repositories for intrepid, which won't help me because I can't get online.
[16:33] <tsimpson> apparle: I don't use arora (yet)
[16:33] <Mamarok> kaddi: try /query ubottu !info wicd
[16:33] <Mamarok> kaddi: right now you are online, aren't you?
[16:34] <kaddi> Mamarok I know, but it is not in the ubuntu-reps for intrepid. Are you saying I should simply get the jaunty version for intrepid as well?
[16:34] <apparle> tsimpson: I thought I would give it a try in jaunty itself...........I am unable to configure it to use proxy
[16:34] <Mamarok> kaddi: oh, sorry, what KDE version do you use in Intrepid?
[16:34] <kaddi> Mamarok 4.1
[16:34] <kaddi> I think, default one
[16:34] <Mamarok> kaddi: then you are probably better off in Jaunty anyway
[16:34] <KlavKalashj> hey
[16:35] <kaddi> Mamarok but that would mean that I manage to get online and update my intrepid.. (which is what I'm actually trying to do)
[16:35] <KlavKalashj> If I install an icon theme through the appearance settings, will it get automatically updated when possible?
[16:35] <Mamarok> kaddi: because you only have WiFi access, no lan?
[16:36] <kaddi> Mamarok because it isn't recognizing lan anymore with knetworkmanager
[16:36] <Mamarok> kaddi: that is weird, how come?
[16:36] <kaddi> and wifi is disable and knetworkmanager ate the setting to reenable it
[16:36] <Mamarok> I have never ssen that before
[16:36] <Mamarok> at least not in Intrepid
[16:36] <kaddi> Mamarok I don't really know, I did an update from hardy to intrepid yesterday and knetworkmanager got borked obviously
[16:37] <Mamarok> kaddi: you did a frsh install or an upgrade?
[16:37] <kaddi> upgrade
[16:37] <Mamarok> rarely a good idea, especially when chaning to a major new KDE version
[16:38] <Mamarok> kaddi: and you don't have a CD at hand?
[16:38] <floown> hello
[16:39] <Mamarok> kaddi: because then you can get the networ-manager from the CD
[16:39] <kaddi> Mamarok you mean the nm-applet?
[16:40] <floown> I search a program to control the desktop of my father, I want to move his mouse and seen him where to clic
[16:40] <Mamarok> kaddi: no, the network-manager
[16:40] <Mamarok> kaddi: as you apparently have problems with it
[16:41] <kaddi> Mamarok ah, you mean just remove and reinstall it?
[16:41] <Mamarok> kaddi: well, yes, as it is on the CD
[16:42] <Mamarok> kaddi: first, did you try just removing your previous kde settings? Moving .kde/ and .kde4/ to something else then restart?
[16:42] <kaddi> I should have it somewhere...
[16:42] <xsebsx> how so i open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[16:43] <kaddi> lol, I just found knoppix 3.0 :o
[16:43] <Mamarok> xsebsx: why would you want to do that?
[16:43] <Mamarok> kaddi: which is not helpful in our case anyway
[16:43] <Mamarok> kaddi: actually, you can start the computer with it and download the *.deb file
[16:44] <Mamarok> xsebsx: and it is called /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:45] <xsebsx> Mamarok: because im trying to fix the sound on my computer and its on a page of a forum that addreesses similar problems, to which i had to resort after coming here and pretty much told that i'll have to learn for help, eventuallly i was able to get the sound going on my computer only i can only get it to work for webpages like youtube, not for mp3s and files
[16:45] <apparle> plz tell me how to configure arora to use proxy
[16:45] <Mamarok> xsebsx: because you probably don't have the codecs installed
[16:45] <Mamarok> !codecs
[16:46] <xsebsx> no no no
[16:46] <xsebsx> youtube, flsh, etc works fine
[16:46] <Mamarok> xsebsx: editing alsa-base.conf will not help you for that
[16:46] <xsebsx> i have the restricted non free codecs installed
[16:46] <Mamarok> xsebsx: mp3 needs a codec
[16:46] <xsebsx> what i dont have is sound for mp3 because it says the alsa device doesnt work
[16:46] <Mamarok> xsebsx: what are your basic settings? KDE version, Phonon backend, etc.?
[16:47] <Mamarok> xsebsx: sounds like you have pulseaudio taking over
[16:47] <BluesKaj> xsebsx, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:47] <apparle> xsebsx: which sound card
[16:47] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: he has the codecs
[16:47] <xsebsx> i'm on gnome, and ive installed kubuntu desktop over ubuntu so i can boot on either kde or gnome
[16:47] <BluesKaj> that's the mp3 codec for amarok and other players
[16:47] <Mamarok> xsebsx: you need to install the phonon-backend packages then
[16:47] <apparle> xsebsx: does the alsa device work on gnome
[16:48]  * Mamarok gives up, with 3 people asking different things that will end nowhere...
[16:48] <BluesKaj> xsebsx, also sudo apt-get install libk3b3-extracodecs
[16:48] <Mamarok> apparle: that is not his problem, else he qouldn't have sound *at* *all*
[16:48] <Mamarok> wouldn't"
[16:49] <apparle> Mamarok: Oh he has sound then............just not able to use it in KDE
[16:50] <apparle> anyone knows a good KDE/QT based browser equivalent to firefox
[16:51] <BluesKaj> rekonq
[16:51] <apparle> !info rekonq
[16:52] <apparle> BluesKaj: ??
[16:52] <beagleburt> RE: Konqeror unable to go online: just reinstalled konqueror, but still can not get online - ok with Firefox. Using KDE on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS.
[16:53] <xsebsx> hold on, youre all talkign at once let me show ou what i did do to get sound at all
[16:53] <beagleburt> Also using Firestarter
[16:53] <BluesKaj> apparle, http://rekonq.sourceforge.net/
[16:53] <peteair> Any word on Kubuntuforums,coming back online.
[16:54] <kaddi> Mamarok ok, found that CD :) do i need to add the entire deb cdrom: [Kubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/ intrepid main restricted into the sources.list?
[16:54] <kaddi> or would deb cdrom be enough?
[16:55] <xsebsx> back
[16:55] <bittin> do somone know how to get a DVD TV-dongle to work with mplayer?
[16:56] <apparle> guys how real is this http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/08/nokia-helps-port-firefox-to-qt.ars
[16:57] <xsebsx> wooohoo! amarok working
[16:57] <xsebsx> mp3s playing
[16:57] <apparle> xsebsx: enjoy :)
[16:58] <xsebsx> now next step
[16:58] <xsebsx> i cant get the cool effects
[16:58] <xsebsx> visual effects
[16:58] <xsebsx> last i checked i couldnt get the cool compiz or beryl whichever it is on gnome
[16:59] <apparle> xsebsx: kde comes with its own windows manager KWin
[16:59] <xsebsx> oh no it worked
[16:59] <xsebsx> yes yes
[16:59] <xsebsx> but i'm on gnome
[16:59] <xsebsx> i mean
[16:59] <FloodBotK2> xsebsx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <xsebsx> i installed the original gnome ubuntu jaunty then i aptitude installed kubuntu-desktop
[17:00] <xsebsx> now i'll go pee before i get on to talking about my kde problems
[17:01] <shadeslayer> hi,i checked the box having "Different activity for each desktop" and i have 4 Virtual Desktops but 5 activities,how do i remove the extra activity (no X sign on any activity while zooming out)
[17:02] <Mamarok> kaddi: yes, add this to the sources.list, you will get plenty of error messages for the web sources, but at least you will see the avilable packages on the CD
[17:02] <apparle> xsebsx: when you install kubuntu-desktop it automatically gets installed
[17:02] <xsebsx> yes
[17:02] <xsebsx> i know
[17:02] <shadeslayer> and now when i add an activity its smaller than all the other activities
[17:02] <xsebsx> how do i get swiftweasel and opera? they don't appear on the list of available programs
[17:03] <apparle> xsebsx: goto System settings>desktop>enable desktop effects
[17:03] <xsebsx> oh that worked
[17:04] <apparle> xsebsx: what's the next step
[17:04] <shadeslayer> brb after logging out
[17:05] <kaddi> Mamarok it's actually worse now. lol. it no longer lists my wifi-card as disabled, it doesn't list it at all. I'm gonna boot from cd and get the wicd package, hopefully things will work with that one
[17:05] <xsebsx> next step is
[17:06] <xsebsx> well you see, i recently got a laptop computer, the one i'm on right now, it had vista, i set up the router i bought a cisco wireless router on it while it had vista, then i installed ubuntu and wiped vista away, then i plugged the network cable to my pc which has ubuntu, and when i log onto gnome i can actuallly log onto the wireless connection by just entering the security password which is all i remember from setting up the router before i wiped vis
[17:06] <xsebsx> ta out
[17:07] <xsebsx> but on kde i can't log onto the internet
[17:07] <xsebsx> for some reason
[17:08] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[17:09] <apparle> xsebsx: install wicd ...............and I can't help here because I never had wifi
[17:09] <BluesKaj> wicd works for ethernet and wifi
[17:09] <apparle> can kopete work with port 443 for Gtalk
[17:09] <xsebsx> sudo aptitude install wicd?
[17:11] <apparle> xsebsx: sudo apt-get install wicd
[17:11] <xsebsx> getting it
[17:12] <bittin> how do i load a firmwire in Linux?
[17:12] <apparle> xsebsx: no need to type unneccessary statements............you are flooding the channel :)
[17:13] <robin0800> bittin: firmware for what?
[17:14] <bittin> a dvb-t tv thing
[17:15] <robin0800> bittin: perhaps from an internet page
[17:15] <KelloggsFrosties> moinmoin! as a former gnome-user, i am missing a tool to search and maintain pgp-keys. is there something like seahorse for kde?
[17:15] <bittin> i find the firmwire and moved it to /lib/firmware/
[17:15] <apparle> If I install kubuntu via windows wubi then will the fstab entries for other partitions need to be modified
[17:17] <robin0800> bittin: I usualy use windows for firmware updates
[17:17] <xsebsx> ok that worked
[17:17] <xsebsx> now, kde4 is confusing
[17:17] <kaddi> boot from CD isn't working. :/ Anyone here can tell me where I can get a download of WICD for Intrepid? I can't connect to the internet with my intrepid installation
[17:18] <bittin> robin0800: ah ok
[17:18] <xsebsx> there's some weird thing on my desktop, transparent blue that has the trash adn home folder linked on it
[17:20] <apparle> kaddi: wicd package is not present for intrepid............
[17:21] <kaddi> apparle it is, if you add apt.wicd.net to your sources. However, as I don't have internet, that's of no help to me right now. :/ And the sourceforge page for downloads, only shows how to add the rep to sources.list .. the only alternative is to build wicd from source, which I would like to avoid, as I am unsure if I have all compulers necessary installed on that system
[17:21] <apparle> xsebsx: Actually its folderview widget which shows you your dektop
[17:21] <xsebsx> ok
[17:21] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: lol
[17:22] <shadeslayer> weird blue thing :P
[17:22] <xsebsx> how do i set up the visual effects on kde4?
[17:22] <xsebsx> this is allv ery odd
[17:22] <xsebsx> last time i used kubuntu it didnt look like this
[17:22] <apparle> kaddi I'll check
[17:22] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: K > system settings > Desktop > enable desktop effects
[17:22] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: its matured while you werent looking :P
[17:22] <xsebsx> er...k...and i cant see system settings
[17:23] <xsebsx> oh wwait
[17:24] <shadeslayer> hmm,kpackagekit is uses gksu to ask for my password even though gksu is not installed :o
[17:25] <xsebsx> ok, it seems like i have to pick and choose what i like for effects one by one eventhough i've never seen what these are, this will be interesting
[17:25] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: you betcha
[17:25] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: the best ones imho are the cube and the flip switch effects
[17:26] <xsebsx> cube? isn't that for when you have multiple....like when you have several different OS's on a machine
[17:26] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: multiple desktops,not OS's
[17:26] <BluesKaj> different apps or desktops
[17:28] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: you can also tie "activities" to each desktop,thereby enabling you to have different widgets on each desktop :)
[17:28] <xsebsx> shadeslayer: the desktop cube?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: in 4.3 you just zoom out > configure plasma > check the 2 boxes and zoom back in
[17:30] <xsebsx> i didnt get that _(
[17:31] <xsebsx> DEsktop cube: display every virtual desktop on a cube?
[17:31] <Mamarok> xsebsx: there is a cashew shaped icon in the upper right corner where you can zoom out, then add activities
[17:31] <Mamarok> on a side of a cube
[17:31] <kaddi> ok, got some version of wicd from the sourceforge site (1.5.2, as I saw it mentioned in a intrepid related post) and installed it. Now internet is back :)
[17:31] <Mamarok> kaddi: nice :)
[17:32] <apparle> kaddi: I found the solution to your problem......... use this link http://apt.wicd.net/pool/extras/w/wicd/wicd_1.6.2-2_all.deb
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: btw,i cant seem to reduce the no. of activities to 4 with the 2 options checked in configure plasma....there are always 5 activities
[17:32] <xsebsx> Mamarok: add widgets, lock widgets, appearance settings hide dashboard,
[17:33] <kaddi> apparle thanks :) but see my previous message ;) Managed to find the debs after all :)
[17:34] <Mamarok> xsebsx: which KDE 4 version do you use?
[17:34] <apparle> kaddi: As you see the link I put............its 1.6.2 and also from official repo of wicd
[17:34] <xsebsx> how can i check that? i simply had installed kubuntu-desktop and it seems like tis a 4 and up
[17:34] <apparle> kaddi: good....your problem solved :)
[17:35] <Mamarok> xsebsx: if you go to dolphin for example, in the Help menu -> About KDE
[17:35] <BluesKaj> any kde app/help
[17:36] <Mamarok> xsebsx: but if you have a basic Kubuntu 9.04 installation it is 4.2.2
[17:36] <xsebsx> (KDE 4.2.2)
[17:36] <Mamarok> yep, that's what I just said :)
[17:36] <xsebsx> is there something better than it?
[17:36] <Mamarok> the activities show up there normally
[17:37] <Mamarok> xsebsx: see the /topic: there is KDE 4.3, verx stable and much better
[17:37] <xsebsx> how do i get it?
[17:37] <Mamarok> but not 'officially' supported, it will be default in the next release
[17:37] <apparle> xsebsx: don't get it now...........its not officially supported
[17:37] <Mamarok> xsebsx: see the /topic, please
[17:37] <xsebsx> koala?
[17:37] <xsebsx> how do i do that?
[17:37] <Mamarok> xsebsx: no, there are packages for Jaunty already
[17:38] <Mamarok> apparle: please...
[17:38] <xsebsx> how do i see the topic?
[17:38] <Mamarok> xsebsx: just type /topic
[17:38] <xsebsx> oh cool set by riddell
[17:38] <xsebsx> i know jonathan riddell
[17:38] <Mamarok> also it should be visible in the top line of your IRC client, for all channels
[17:38] <xsebsx> i met him in England
[17:39] <kaddi> apparle I'm adding the wicd-rep and updating as we speak, so I'll have the latest wicd-release for intrepid very soon :)
[17:39] <xsebsx> ok,great, how do i go abotu getting kde 4.3
[17:39] <apparle> kaddi: cool....
[17:39] <Mamarok> xsebsx: for the third time: read the topic :)
[17:40] <xsebsx> there are like 9 links there
[17:40] <Mamarok> xsebsx: but if you don't know how to add a new source to your sources.list and are not used to Linux, you shouldn't
[17:40] <Mamarok> well, read those links then
[17:40] <xsebsx> well, i have done it
[17:40] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: uh the one which says kde 4.3 backports?
[17:40]  * Mamarok shakes head
[17:40] <xsebsx> i remember having added new sources.list, only i did it years ago
[17:41] <xsebsx> and i don't remember how
[17:41]  * shadeslayer knows how Mamarok feels
[17:41] <Mamarok> xsebsx: well, then you probably shouldn't do it
[17:41] <xsebsx> why not? i'm not dumb, i'll do what i have to do
[17:41] <Mamarok> dand patiently wait for the next release, it's only a few months away
[17:41] <Mamarok> -d
[17:42] <xsebsx> ok, so it says deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[17:42] <apparle> xsebsx: Just wait till Oct and you will have the cool 4.3................be patient..........
[17:42] <xsebsx> from what i remember there was a notepad sort of application that you opened through some command like kdesu
[17:42] <xsebsx> and then you opened some address that ended in sources.list
[17:42] <Mamarok> kedesudo for GUI applications in Kubuntu
[17:43] <Mamarok> xsebsx: agai, there is no offical support for it right now, are you sure you want to upgrade?
[17:43] <Mamarok> +n
[17:43] <xsebsx> yes
[17:43] <BluesKaj> xsebsx, best you google-linux sources.list and findout how that works
[17:43] <Mamarok> ok, then it's kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:43] <Mamarok> but save that list somewhere else first, before modifying anything
[17:44] <kaddi> Mamarok out of curiosity was there always a special command for gui-applications like kdesudo or has that been introduced in one of the more recent releases? The first time I heard of it must have been with intrepid, I think.
[17:44] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, enuff spoonfeeding :)
[17:44] <apparle> BluesKaj: I agree
[17:44] <Mamarok> kaddi: kdesudo is the command for sudo rights with a GUI application, this should only be used when really needed, as is sudo for the command line applications
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, has a soft heart :)
[17:45] <Mamarok> xsebsx: you are on your own there, we told you that, remember?
[17:45] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: yes, I know, and I should do a lot of other things right now anyway
[17:45] <apparle> kaddi: I used to use 'kdesu' before linux
[17:45] <Daro> hope anybody can help me...my mic on skype is not working...but it is working perfectly in audacity....any ideas??
[17:46] <xsebsx> how do you mean you're on your own? i am always on my own, is this to say that you will become unwilling to help me...?
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Daro: yeah,change the input to pulse audio
[17:46] <Daro> I don't have pulseaudio shadeslayer
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Daro: O.0
[17:46] <kaddi> apparle: hehe, ok. I must have missed that info then :D
[17:46] <apparle> plz help me setup fstab after wubi install
[17:47] <Daro> shadeslayer: they told me, I shouldn't use it with kubuntu
[17:47] <shadeslayer> Daro: uh,why not?
[17:47] <Daro> in the German kubuntu irc....they told me pulseaudio and kubuntu is evil....and i should purge it
[17:47] <apparle> kaddi: Its just that 'kdesudo' earlier 'kdesu'  both ask the passord in GUI whereas sudo asks it in CLI
[17:48] <xsebsx> Mamarok: so i copy the current sources.list file onto another differently named file just in case? like sources list backup
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Daro: you should remove pulseaudio *only* when its not working
[17:48] <Daro> it was not working together with skype
[17:48] <Daro> I remember...I didn't had sound with pulse @ all
[17:49] <kaddi> apparle yes I know, but I've always done my editing with VI. I have been using ubuntu since Dapper and found about kdesudo about a year or 2 ago. I was wondering if that feature was introduced around that time, or if I simply missed that there was a GUI-sudo as well. (Obviously it was the second)
[17:49] <shadeslayer> Daro: well change the default input device to whatever other option is available then,worked for me last time i used skype
[17:49] <shadeslayer> (with pulse audio)
[17:50] <apparle> kaddi: :) Anyways...........what is vi.........I have heard abt it a lot.........but not used it ever
[17:50] <Daro> shadeslayer: thank you i will try
[17:51] <shadeslayer> apparle: advanced text editor
[17:51] <shadeslayer> !info vi | apparle
[17:51] <apparle> !info vim
[17:51] <xsebsx> How do I go about upgrading to KDE 4.3, I see this is a needed repo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main  , do i simply add it at the end of the sourceslist file where all the other lines starting with deb are?
[17:51] <apparle> shadeslayer: thanks
[17:52] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: yep and then  update and dist-upgrade
[17:52] <k4ever> hi all.  i installed kde 4.3 and now i'm having problems with openoffice.org 3.1.  when i try to launch an openoffice program (for example impress) i get a dialog box "openoffice.org3 -impress %U" asking me do i trust the program.  when i click continue it says that it could not make the program executable and aborts.
[17:52] <rapsli> how can I open a digital camera plugin in?
[17:53] <rapsli> the window pops open which tells me that is mounted, but in dolphine I don't find the camera
[17:53] <shadeslayer> rapsli: have you checked /media/ for the mount ?
[17:53] <apparle> !fstab
[17:53] <xsebsx> shadeslayer: just update on the terminal or sudo something?
[17:53] <rapsli> shadeslayer: yes I did
[17:54] <shadeslayer> rapsli: ok have you tried kamera?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> !kamera
[17:54] <apparle> !info kamera
[17:54] <rapsli> Kamera... is this a prog?
[17:54] <rapsli> nope. let me try it
[17:54] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: open a konsole,then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:55] <rapsli> how do i start kamera?
[17:55] <apparle> what's the command similar to 'ipconfig' in windows
[17:55] <rapsli> ifconfig i believe
[17:56] <shadeslayer> rapsli: open system settings > advanced tab > kamera
[17:56] <shadeslayer> rapsli: or press alt+F2 > kamera > enter
[17:57] <rapsli> Oky, it tells me "canon eos 350D" which is correct
[17:57] <rapsli> but, when I hit "test" it tells me there's an error :(
[17:58] <rapsli> aha... error is maybe because camera turned off
[17:58] <xsebsx> shadeslayer: before i dist-upgrade i thought i'd show you this http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1531586
[17:59] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: hold one se
[17:59] <shadeslayer> +c
[17:59] <xsebsx> np
[17:59] <apparle> xsebsx: you should have isntalled the PGP key as explained It is strongly recommended that you verify the integrity of these packages by installing the archive's GPG key. You may do this by following the instructions on this page.
[17:59] <apparle> xsebsx: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq/PPA-keys
[18:00] <xsebsx> thankyou
[18:00] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A : in a terminal
[18:00] <shadeslayer> rapsli: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg38t02.htm
[18:01] <Mamarok> k4ever: that sounds very strange, I can't reproduce this here, are you sure you have the current version of OO.o?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> rapsli: install digikam too
[18:02] <k4ever> i downloaded latest from openoffice.org yesterday.  i'm using 64 bit
[18:02] <xsebsx> shadeslayer: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1531588
[18:02] <kaddi> ah, while I'm here: when I click on the wastebin-widget I get the error message "invalid address trash:/" and the trashbin doesn't open up. Anyone know how to fix this? (this is on jaunty with kde 4.2.4)
[18:02] <Mamarok> k4ever: well, that's is exactly what you should *not* do, use the provided packages from the Kubuntu repositories
[18:06] <xsebsx> Mamarok: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1531590 does that mean ive gotten the gpg keys?
[18:06] <webbb> whenever i open synaptic threw avnt window navigator i get a window that says Starting without administrative privileges  any ideaa why
[18:06] <k4ever> ok, i'll uninstall the packages from openoffice website and use the ones in the repository.  i hope that one day we can get kubuntu and linux in general to the point where we can use the developer's packages and not have to always rely on the repos.
[18:06] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: yeah
[18:06] <webbb> but if i iopen it not in awn it doesnt say that
[18:07] <xsebsx> can i do sudo dist-upgrade now shadeslayer?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: just update first and see if there are any errors
[18:07] <k4ever> ...which is still 3.01 btw when 3.1 has been out for some time
[18:08] <Daro> hmmm ich kann im Kmixer kein capture device einstellen.....hat einer ne idee warum?
[18:09] <k4ever> also 3.1 works well in gnome and xfce but not kde?
[18:09] <rapsli> shadeslayer: there seems to an error with the connection.
[18:09] <rapsli> hitting the test button doesn't work
[18:09] <rapsli> and the config button doesn't work either
[18:09] <xsebsx> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1531595
[18:09] <xsebsx> shadeslayer
[18:10] <Daro> ohh i can't choose a capture device in kmix....any idea why not?
[18:10] <maco> k4ever: probably wasnt out when the version you're using was released and thus will not be in that version
[18:10] <shadeslayer> rapsli: ok,so the camera is detected but digicam wont import photos?
[18:10] <rapsli> yep
[18:10] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: looks fine, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ftw
[18:11] <xsebsx> ftw?
[18:11] <Daro> my cat /etc/sndstats
[18:11] <maco> k4ever: karmic will have 3.1
[18:11] <Daro> Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.18rc3 emulation code)
[18:11] <Daro> Kernel: Linux HAL9000 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 01:19:55 UTC 2009 x86_64
[18:11] <Daro> Config options: 0
[18:11] <Daro> Installed drivers:
[18:11] <Daro> Type 10: ALSA emulation
[18:11] <FloodBotK2> Daro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <Daro> Card config:
[18:11] <xsebsx> ftw=?
[18:11] <maco> xsebsx: for the win
[18:11] <shadeslayer> rapsli: thats strange..... just check the cables,unplug the camera and quit digicam and then replug it
[18:11] <Guest61349> for the win
[18:11] <shadeslayer> maco: for the way :P
[18:11] <rapsli> how would I import images anyway?
[18:11] <xsebsx> is that an expression? language is my mother Spanish btw
[18:12] <xsebsx> so ftw is not part of the command?
[18:12] <maco> xsebsx: its an expression that pretty much only nerds use
[18:12] <Guest61349> lol hush maco
[18:12] <shadeslayer> rapsli: theres a import button in digikam
[18:12] <shadeslayer> maco: hehe
[18:12] <maco> shadeslayer: way?
[18:12] <maco> shadeslayer: when did the definition of ftw change?
[18:12] <kaddi> maco not true, I use it too j/k
[18:12] <Daro> my /etc/sndstats is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/254126/
[18:13] <xsebsx> getting! :)
[18:13] <maco> oh ugh, wtf only defines ftw as "file tree walk"
[18:13] <maco> really needs to be updated
[18:13] <rapsli> shadeslayer: don't got the program... yet
[18:13] <shadeslayer> maco: i always thought it was for the way....
[18:13] <shadeslayer> rapsli: install digikam then
[18:13] <xsebsx> for the win or for the way?
[18:14] <xsebsx> if i am going to use this in real life i better be right about it
[18:14] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: what the hack....just upgrade :P
[18:14] <shadeslayer> *heck
[18:14] <k4ever> disregard, i got it to work by editing the menu to point directly to "simpress".  i'm in the process of editing all of the Openoffice.org menu entries.  this way i can keep 3.1 and not have to revert back to 3.01
[18:14] <xsebsx> how do i get the desktop windows to appear on the taskbar only when on the desktop they belong to
[18:14] <xsebsx> haha what the hack
[18:15] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: right click the taskbar > taskbar settings > check the appropriate box
[18:15] <Mamarok> k4ever: there already is a PPA for the newer versions: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu
[18:17] <apparle> please suggest a KDE media player which supports srt subtitles for avi files
[18:17] <shadeslayer> rapsli: whats the version of the camera? like model no. etc i can do a compatibility check....
[18:18] <soumendra> I think vlc can work well,apparle
[18:18] <apparle> soumendra: I want something KDE based like dragon but better than dragon
[18:18] <shadeslayer> apparle: uh.... kplayer?
[18:18] <soumendra> why not try mplayer
[18:18] <apparle> any xine GUI based on KDE4
[18:18] <shadeslayer> apparle: vlc is the best imho
[18:19] <apparle> !info kplayer
[18:19] <apparle> soumendra: I want something with less download............I don't have mplayer so kplayer will be of no use
[18:19]  * shadeslayer has been wondering for months why amarok wont play video
[18:20] <shadeslayer> apparle: kplayer and mplayer are different
[18:20] <BluesKaj>  amarok is strictly audio
[18:20] <apparle> but as ubottu says kplayer is based on mplayer..
[18:21] <dipin> hellooooooooooo
[18:21] <soumendra> I have kmplayer
[18:21] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah,but they should add video support :(
[18:21] <soumendra> It does work
[18:21] <shadeslayer> apparle: its based on mplayer...meaning it shares source code
[18:21] <dipin> why does vlc and othe media players terminate on playing vedio files
[18:22] <soumendra> So you want a light weight app
[18:22] <BluesKaj> there's VLC for that , it does everything , but without the confusing GUI
[18:22] <BluesKaj> VLC GUI is boring but it can be dressed up
[18:22] <dipin> i have installed the all coecs
[18:23] <dipin> but also vlc keeps on terminationg
[18:23] <dipin> i mean codecs
[18:23] <k4ever> i read an article a while back by a guy who had switched from windows to ubuntu.  the guy was upset because while everything else worked, he could not seem to get the new version of openoffice.org to work.  he downloaded everything from the openoffice.org website and followed the instruction but he kept running into problems.  i did not understand his frustration until know.  you have to wait until the next version of xx to get a program 
[18:23] <k4ever>  been out for a while and supposedly has packages that work with ubuntu.  not a good thing.  well thats my rant for today.  i fixed the menu problem and now all of openoffice.org is running well.
[18:23] <BluesKaj> dipin, I think there's asetting in VLC to avoid closure
[18:24] <dipin> whats that
[18:25] <k4ever> kde 4.3 is awesome, btw.  i'm loving the fact that nuvola icons were included.  look much better than oxygen icons.
[18:25] <rapsli> shadeslayer: took a carder now -> works
[18:25] <xsebsx> help help i clicked the cashew and desktops wee
[18:25] <shadeslayer> rapsli: carde?
[18:26] <dipin> blueskaj do u have any idea
[18:26] <redleer> whats these blocked updates? just installed kubuntu 9.4 and thers 4 blocked updates hmm
[18:26] <rapsli> cardreader ;)
[18:26] <soumendra> Any idea how to run safari on ubuntu
[18:26] <shadeslayer> redleer: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:26] <webbb> can anyone in here help me compile a app from source
[18:26] <webbb> i already have the files
[18:26] <shadeslayer> soumendra: theres a browser rekonq which uses webkit , same as safari
[18:26] <shadeslayer> webbb: sure
[18:26] <redleer> shadeslayer:  thanks
[18:26] <shadeslayer> redleer: no probs man
[18:27] <BluesKaj> dipin, look in view in vlc, unclick "quit after playback"
[18:27] <soumendra> shadeslayer:thanks
[18:27] <shadeslayer> webbb: does the source contain cmake files?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> !pm | dipin
[18:27] <dipin> m on it
[18:27] <jza> hi anyone know if the kubuntu livecd would run on a recent Mac?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> !mac | jza
[18:28] <shadeslayer> um
[18:28] <webbb> shadeslayer: yes
[18:28] <jza> webbb: same way as any PC?
[18:28] <shadeslayer> !compile | webbb
[18:28] <BluesKaj> !livecd
[18:28] <Mamarok> k4ever: there already is a PPA for the newer versions: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu
[18:29] <shadeslayer> webbb: install the necessary dev packages first....
[18:29] <Mamarok> did you read that?
[18:29] <xsebsx> is there a way to hide the folderview widget or close it and then reopen it if wanted
[18:30] <dipin> blueskaj, where is view option?
[18:30] <Mamarok> because if you want a rolling distro (e.g. one tha updates everything as soon as it is released) you shouldn't use a distribution with a fixed release cycle, nothing to rant about, you choose it in the first place.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: um click the cross on the panel...
[18:30] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: s/panel/handle
[18:31] <soumendra> is there a way to hide folders in ubuntu
[18:31] <shadeslayer> soumendra: yep
[18:31] <shadeslayer> soumendra: prepend a ' . ' to the name
[18:31] <xsebsx> how about to get it back shadeslayer?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: right click > add widgets > folder view widget
[18:32] <bip> Hello
[18:32] <shadeslayer> !hi | bip
[18:32] <bip> thanks ^^
[18:32] <soumendra> shadeslayer:But in order to view it again do I have to rename it through commandline by removing . ?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> dipin, it's on the vlc toolbar
[18:33] <shadeslayer> soumendra: nope,just press : alt+. in dolphin
[18:34] <k4ever> also, i install amarok2 and could not get sound.  after some searching i found out that phonon was using the gstreamer backend.  after installing the xine backend everything worked fine.  will you guys please change amarok so it depends on the xine backend by default instead of gstreamer.  too many problems with gstreamer.
[18:34] <soumendra> shadeslayer:thanks genius
[18:34] <shadeslayer> soumendra: ;)
[18:35] <xsebsx> is there a page with all the cool things one can do with kde 4.3? like...alt tab
[18:35] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: um kde.org ?
[18:35] <kaddi> thanks shadeslayer :D
[18:35] <xsebsx> ditto
[18:35] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: theres also : userbase and techbase
[18:36] <xsebsx> is there something better than nicotine?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: http://userbase.kde.org/
[18:36] <BluesKaj> xsebsx, run your mouse into top left corner edge
[18:36] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: thats just one of the cool things
[18:36] <BluesKaj> of course desktop effects has to be enabled
[18:37] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:37] <kaddi> what happens in the top left corner? *curious*
[18:37] <xsebsx> didnt do anything
[18:37] <xsebsx> and theyre enabled
[18:37] <xsebsx> woah
[18:37] <xsebsx> cool
[18:37] <kaddi> ?
[18:38] <Carlos_Andres> hi guys, someone knows howto open a folder with special caracters.... my partition is in fat32
[18:38] <bip> Does anyone know how to run a HD television with an nVidia graphics card? Because with me I do not see all workspace on the screen. (sorry if I have a bad english)
[18:38] <xsebsx> it does a maclike view of all windows
[18:38] <xsebsx> open
[18:38] <kaddi> maclike?
[18:38] <xsebsx> yeah @ least to me it looks like youre on a mac
[18:39] <Mamarok>  xsebsx I have no idea what a Mac looks like, never used one
[18:39] <kaddi> xsebsx I don't know how  a mac looks like :p
[18:39] <Carlos_Andres> xsebsx: to run a file  with special characters?
[18:39] <kaddi> hehe, that makes two
[18:39] <xsebsx> ok
[18:39] <xsebsx> btw
[18:40] <xsebsx> can one set ubuntu on a mac?
[18:40] <Mamarok> xsebsx: you mean the windows flip search?
[18:40] <kaddi> Carlos_Andres what kind of special caracter?
[18:40] <xsebsx> yes
[18:40] <Mamarok> xsebsx: of course, it's just another intel computer that is more expensive than others, that's it
[18:40] <xsebsx> can one set ubuntu os on a mac laptop??
[18:40] <Mamarok> xsebsx: just answered you
[18:41] <xsebsx> is it more portable, easier, etc to use ubuntu than mac os
[18:41] <xsebsx> if i have a mac
[18:41] <Carlos_Andres> á or ñ for example.... those characters apper like unknown, but in gnome I can read them whitout any problem
[18:41] <xsebsx> here's the deal, my gf has a shitty old ass computer, i installed ubuntu on it but it has so low memory and stuff that it's really slow
[18:41] <Mamarok> xsebsx: again, I don't know how OS X looks as I never used it and you can buy better laptops for less than that price
[18:42] <xsebsx> and her daughter is going to give her her mac laptop as a gift
[18:42] <Mamarok> xsebsx: add some ram then, it's cheap nowadays
[18:42] <xsebsx> so i was wondering about setting ubuntu on it
[18:42] <shadeslayer> soumendra: you can ask in the channel itself....
[18:42] <xsebsx> too old a computer
[18:42] <xsebsx> like from 2005
[18:42] <soumendra> shadeslayer:yes of course
[18:42] <shadeslayer> soumendra: thank you
[18:43] <Mamarok> xsebsx: that doesn't depend on age, but on what is inside
[18:43] <Mamarok> CPU, RAM, graphic card
[18:43] <Mamarok> butr Linux runs on very old stuff
[18:43] <luis_> there is an error in copy and delete with dolphin, i try to copy and cut all the files from a CD, when the process finish i check and the files are in my hard disk now, but the cuted files are still on the CD!!!! i try to send them to trash, but it says: trash is full, empty it, and tras has 0 files... WTF???
[18:43] <xsebsx> but does ubuntu?
[18:43]  * shadeslayer sings the intel song....
[18:43] <Mamarok> luis_: <ou can't remove files from a CD
[18:43] <Mamarok> *you
[18:44] <Mamarok> luis_: unless it is a CD-RW and you can erase those with k3b
[18:44] <xsebsx> ok the update to kde 4.3 is about to end what should i do now?
[18:44] <xsebsx> once it's done
[18:44] <BluesKaj> this pc is 2005 , runs fine with 2G ram
[18:44] <Mamarok> xsebsx: wait till it's over, then log out of KDE and log in again, unless you have a new kernel, then you need to restart
[18:44] <luis_> then how i do Mamarok... i wanna delete the files so i get inside a ISO image...
[18:44] <xsebsx> the dist upgrade
[18:45] <xsebsx> ok
[18:45] <xsebsx> i'll do that
[18:45] <Mamarok> luis_: if that CD is a CD-R you can't
[18:45] <xsebsx> 53 secs left
[18:45] <Mamarok> luis_: as CDs are read-only, so you cnt erase or write on it
[18:45] <Guest10154> anyone have any comments positive or negative about truecrypt
[18:45] <luis_> oh...
[18:45] <Mamarok> cant* even
[18:45] <luis_> well ok, thx mamarok
[18:45] <Mamarok> luis_: you are welcome :)
[18:46] <xsebsx> most times sarcasm is a form of humilliation
[18:46] <k4ever> kikijosh
[18:46] <soumendra> shadeslayer:actually there is a problem in my wireless router due to which it sometimes  resets itself. Now I don't wanna buy another one. But here the problem really starts. I have wpa encryption. The network gets disconnected due to the problem I mentioned earlier. And only on clicking on the n-m applet do I get back the network. So I was thinking if I could write a script which automates the "refreshing" of the network. Any idea
[18:47] <shadeslayer> soumendra: hmm....a network refresh like renewing the IP?
[18:47] <luis_> NO HOLDA, mamarok hold on a minute
[18:48] <Nightwalker-> where can i change the color of task manager?
[18:48] <luis_> i got the CD back from the pc, its says CD-RW rewritable
[18:48] <soumendra> shadeslayer: I would like to rather say to send auythentication message
[18:48] <Mamarok> luis_: then you can re-werite on it with a CD burning application like k3b
[18:48] <soumendra> shadeslayer: sorry authentication message typo
[18:48] <Mamarok> re-write
[18:48] <luis_> ok, i will download it :)
[18:48] <shadeslayer> soumendra: hmm
[18:49] <pay_> anybody knows a solution for a beeping notebook while starting with wlan switch off?
[18:49] <Mamarok> xsebsx: for your information, it say 'you are welcome' to everybody who thanks me, no sarcasm involved
[18:49] <shadeslayer> soumendra: i cant think of anything apart from : sudo dhclient
[18:49] <Mamarok> I say*
[18:49] <soumendra> shadeslayer: yup I tried it but it failed
[18:49]  * Mamarok needs a rest and some food
[18:50]  * Guest36467 waves
[18:50] <xsebsx> Mamarok: I wasn't talking about you, I was just making an unrelated comment out of the blue, it's something I always do in all aspects of my life...by the way, thankyou for all your help
[18:51] <xsebsx> done! gonna reboot
[18:51] <soumendra> shadeslayer: if you are using ubuntu (which I am using instead of kubuntu), on clicking the network manager applet does the trick. But I want to automate that. Any idea
[18:51] <Mamarok> xsebsx: you are welcome :)
[18:51] <Mamarok> too late...
[18:52] <shadeslayer> soumendra: im using kde...so idea....ask in #ubuntu
[18:52] <soumendra> shadeslayer: ok thanks
[18:52] <webbb> how do you open the source list again
[18:52] <shadeslayer> webbb: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:53] <BluesKaj> alt+f2 first
[18:53] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:55] <BluesKaj> webbb, it will be stored in the drop down list , just click on the down arrow at the right of the textbox
[18:55] <webbb> ok thanks
[18:58] <xsebsx> back on kde 4.3
[18:58] <xsebsx> hmm
[18:58] <xsebsx> so what's new or extra about this kde?
[19:01] <xsebsx> help
[19:01] <xsebsx> if i try to play an mp3 3on totem
[19:01] <xsebsx> there's no sound
[19:04] <xsebsx> hmm
[19:04] <xsebsx> anyone in here?
[19:06] <shadeslayer> xsebsx: nope
[19:08] <xsebsx> ok where's synaptic or adept on here?
[19:09] <luis_> I got a big problem of susped and hibernation: I go to energy options, more, capacities of the system, and it says my system is unable to being turned off, that directly cause a problem to hibernation and suspend, because the system goes to "unable to halt", no auto turnoff, is there a way to fix that? (btw i am using a laptop)
[19:10] <xsebsx> is there another package manager?
[19:10] <xsebsx> is this kpackage kit for kde apps only?
[19:11] <luis_> GDebi Package Installer
[19:11] <luis_> open the deb, right click, open with:
[19:11] <luis_> can someone help me with my "turn off" problem pls?
[19:15] <xsebsx> how can i make amarok my default mp3 file opener
[19:19] <SJr> I installed KDE 4.3 on Jaunty, and when I restart VMWare services plasma crashes, when I try to restart plasma, bash says that it's not installed
[19:22] <Macheavel> hy
[19:22] <Mamarok> xsebsx: you need to install the codecs for KDE: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:22] <Mamarok> and the default package manager is kpackagekit, which is already installed, you acces it through the system settings
[19:23] <Mamarok> also, check the system settings more in depth, you can set pretty muhc everything there, like making Amarok default for your mp3 packages
[19:23] <Mamarok> xsebsx: did you install Amarok 2.1.1 from the jaunty-backports yet?
[19:23] <Mamarok> because the defautl with Jaunty is 2.0.2 which is pretty old now
[19:25] <roconnor> How do I setup the WPA network this hotel under Kubuntu?
[19:26] <xsebsx> Mamarok: how can i go about checking which version of Amarok i have, and I think i had installed the kubuntu restricted extras
[19:27] <luis_> Mamarok: I got a big problem of susped and hibernation: I go to energy options, more, capacities of the system, and it says my system is unable to being turned off, that directly cause a problem to hibernation and suspend, because the system goes to "unable to halt", no auto turnoff, is there a way to fix that? (btw i am using a laptop)
[19:27] <gavrik> доброго времени суток
[19:27] <xsebsx> Mamarok: Version 4.3.00
[19:28] <xsebsx> now how do i get it to be my default player so that if i click on an mp3 it will play on amarok
[19:28] <bipp> Salut tout le monde ! Hello from France.
[19:29] <roconnor> I don't have a clue how WPA works under linux
[19:29] <Mamarok> xsebsx: open Amarok and go to the help menu, About Amarok
[19:29] <xsebsx> i did
[19:29] <roconnor> something about wpa_supplicant something?
[19:29] <xsebsx> it's version Version 4.3.00
[19:29] <Mamarok> xsebsx: not the KDE version,about Amarok
[19:29] <webbb> does anyone in here know how to use magicfolder
[19:30] <xsebsx> version 2.1
[19:30] <Mamarok> roconnor: do you have Kubuntu 9.04? Then you should install wicd
[19:30]  * Mamarok doesn't even know what magicfolder is
[19:30] <bipp> webbb yes i'm use it
[19:30] <Mamarok> xsebsx: ok, then you should activate the jaunty-backports repository, there has been a bugfix release for 2.1
[19:31] <roconnor> Mamarok: hmm, tricky without a network
[19:31] <bipp> Hello Sp0tter ! :p
[19:31] <Mamarok> roconnor: you are on a network right now
[19:31] <Sp0tter> I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   over a regular ubuntu desktop install,  but now when I try and login it doesn't recognize my pw
[19:31] <Sp0tter> if I change sessiontype back to GDM, i can log in
[19:31] <xsebsx> great, let's do that, how do i activate the jaunty backports repos, i thought i'd done that in the process of upgrading to kde 4,3 but let me do something
[19:31] <Sp0tter> hello bipp!
[19:32] <roconnor> I'm on a computer in the hotel lobby
[19:32] <Mamarok> xsebsx: in system settings -> Install & remove software, go to the thir option, edit sources a nd activate the unsupported repo
[19:32] <Sp0tter> Why would the kde login manager not recognize my system accounts?
[19:32] <Sp0tter> i can login fine to gnome or the console
[19:33] <bipp> Sorry I don't know why :(. I'm new in GNU/Linux
[19:33] <webbb> bipp: how do i set it up
[19:33] <webbb> bipp: whats a regex
[19:34] <roconnor> Mamarok, I wonder if I can download a .deb file and trasfer it via usb key
[19:34] <arya> Hi there, I have little question concerning the apt-get sources list
[19:34] <Mamarok> roconnor: you sure can, wait, I tell you the location to download from
[19:34] <xsebsx> Mamarok: all third party software boxes are already checked
[19:34] <xsebsx> what do i do?
[19:35] <roconnor> Mamarok, thanks that will help.  I appear to already have all the package dependencies
[19:35] <xsebsx> partner, partner and ppa backcodes
[19:35] <Mamarok> roconnor: you can get it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download
[19:36] <Mamarok> xsebsx: not in the third party section, in the updates section
[19:36] <Mamarok> jaunty-backports is not third-party
[19:36] <arya> I have recently added the kde 4.3ppa to my source list and installed kubuntu-desktop(with kde 4.3) I now want to switch fully from my former environment(Linux Mint Gloria with Gnome) to KDE kubuntu, do I have to edit my source.list in /etc/apt?
[19:38] <xsebsx> ok, in the updates section i see three buttons, one that says apply all available updates, refresh and history, do I click on all available updates?
[19:38] <xsebsx> Mamarok:
[19:38] <Mamarok> arya: I don't know Linux Mint, is it an additional source to the Ubuntu repositories?
[19:38] <OMLX> I've installed kubuntu through wubi and my default language is Arabic when I reboot I can't login because the layout is arabic how can change to English keyboard from longin page?
[19:39] <Mamarok> xsebsx: what other tabs do you get in the sources editor?
[19:39] <Mamarok> arya: if yes, then just remove that repository, else you need to do a fresh install
[19:41] <xsebsx> third party,kubuntu software, updates, authentication, statistics
[19:41] <xsebsx> Mamarok:
[19:41] <Mamarok> xsebsx: in Kubuntu Software?
[19:41] <roconnor> Mamarok, trying to get this windows desktop to recognise my USB key ...
[19:41] <Mamarok> I never use the GUI package manager, sorry, don't know by heart
[19:41] <arya> Mamarok, this is the apt list source http://pastebin.com/m4b106a8
[19:42] <arya> (and thanks for your attention btw)
[19:42] <Mamarok> roconnor: if it is a vfat format it should be recognized and be mounted automatically
[19:43] <Mamarok> arya: that's fine, remove all the linux Mint packages and make a general update first to get a regular Ubuntu installation, then you can install the kubuntu-desktop package
[19:44] <cast_> Hola
[19:44] <xsebsx> on kubuntu software all boxes checked, in this order: canonical supported open source software, community maintained open source software, proprietary drivers for devices, software restricted by copyright or legal issues, source code
[19:44] <xsebsx>  Mamarok
[19:44] <arya> Mamarok, I already have installed kubuntu-desktop, you suggest that I rome those linux mint lines and then update the system to be sure and reinstall the kubuntu-desktop?
[19:45] <arya> rome=delete
[19:45] <Mamarok> xsebsx: start your lines with my name and type the rest after it, that's easier :)
[19:45] <Mamarok> arya: well, I don't know Mint and it is not supported at all by *ubuntu, so I strongly suggest you remove it
[19:46] <arya> oke
[19:46] <roconnor> Mamarok: Is it sudo dkpg -i <package> ?
[19:46] <xsebsx> ok
[19:46] <Mamarok> xsebsx: there is somewhere the word backports in brackets, don't you see that?
[19:46] <Mamarok> roconnor: yep, on Linux
[19:46] <arya> Mamarok, is there any lines that I have to add to my list after removing the linux mint lines? Or is the list complete?(http://pastebin.com/m4b106a8)
[19:47] <roconnor> Mamarok, hmm it it says it conflicts with network-manager
[19:47] <roconnor> should I remove network-manager?
[19:47] <Mamarok> arya: you want to install Kubuntu with KDE 4.3, right? if the Kubuntu-desktop package is already installed, see the repository for KDE 4.3 in the topic of this channel
[19:47] <xsebsx> Mamarok:  only on third party softwlare theres a box marked as backports ubuntu jaunty main
[19:47] <Mamarok> roconnor: of course you need to remove the network-manager, as wicd will replace it
[19:48] <arya> Mamarok, I just want to have a healthy system that gets updated and so on.. :) I have installed the kubuntu-desktop package with kde 4.3 :)
[19:48] <Mamarok> xsebsx: it is not in the thrid-party stuff, it is an official repository, so it must be in the four package sources from Ubuntu, read all the lines there, it's normally the last one
[19:49] <Mamarok> arya: ok, just make sure to remove all the non-needed stuff from Mint as it might cause problems, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade should handle that
[19:50] <arya> Mamarok, thank you, I will go and try that command line, brb
[19:50] <jonah1980_> hi does anyone know of an ubuntu jaunty respin with backports included??
[19:50] <Mamarok> arya: you are welcome :) just make sure you have the repositories form the topic link and the gpg key
[19:51] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: what do you mean by respin?
[19:51] <jonah1980_> kubuntu i mean, though i did ask in ubuntu channel too but got no reply
[19:51] <roconnor> Mamarok: okay, I think wicd is installed now
[19:51] <jonah1980_> Mamarok: a remastered iso that has the backports already in it
[19:51] <arya> Mamarok, I have added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to my sources and already have installed the gpg key
[19:51] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: nope, you will have to do by hand, see the topic of the channel
[19:52] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: I guess you talk about the backports-PPA, do you?
[19:52] <OMLX> hi , I've installed kubuntu through wubi and my default language is Arabic when I reboot I can't login because the layout is arabic how can change to English keyboard from login form
[19:52] <jonah1980_> see my netbook has wrong resolution, no wifi and no ethernet with 9.04, but 9.10 is a bit unstable still, so i could do with the backports installed on 9.04 - but i can't with no internet, once the backports where in my wifi/ethernet would work out of the box...
[19:52] <Mamarok> OMLX: sorry, I don't know how to handle Wubi stuff,
[19:52] <jonah1980_> Mamarok: yeah the backports ppa
[19:52] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: well, it's all in the topic :)
[19:52] <xsebsx> Mamarok: on kubuntu software tab all boxes are checked, they are as following, Canonical supported open source software, community maintained open source software, proprietary drivers for devices, software restricted by copyright or legal issues, source code
[19:53] <Mamarok> xsebsx: let me fire up that package manager, I will tell you...
[19:53] <jonah1980_> Mamarok: what's in the topic, sorry not with you? i want an install live cd/iso with backports installed ready, not so you have to download them
[19:53] <OMLX> Mamarok: Is there any shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts in kde 4?
[19:53] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: there is none, I told you already
[19:54] <jonah1980_> Mamarok: is there anyone that could do me one? i've checked the torrent sites and there's things like super os but nothing with backports in
[19:55] <xsebsx> Mamarok: thanks, I'm right here
[19:56] <Mamarok> jonah1980_: I can't that's a lot of work, adding that source to an existing kubuntu 9.04 installations is far easier
[19:56] <_roconnor> Mamarok: you are the greatest person alive!! \o/
[19:56] <Mamarok> xsebsx: go to the updates tab, as I told you previously, and open your eyes :)
[19:57] <Mamarok> it says unsuoported updates (jaunty-backports)
[19:57] <xsebsx> check that?
[19:58] <mrcognitive> hey , fast question . i am trying to mark my nsplugin rapper for unistalling but it is not allowing me access to check the box . any ideas ?
[19:58] <xsebsx> Mamarok: do i check that one?
[20:01] <xsebsx> Mamarok: so i check that and close it?
[20:01] <Mamarok> xsebsx: yes, then you update the package manager, and search for Amarok
[20:02] <Mamarok> xsebsx: select Amarok, the package name is 2:2.1.1mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1~jaunty1 and install it, then disable the backports again
[20:02] <Mamarok> so you only get the latest Amarok and no other software you might not wnat to have
[20:03] <msi_> hello
[20:04] <msi_> could u please help me?
[20:04] <Mamarok> !ask | msi_
[20:04] <xsebsx> Mamarok: ok i did that, now how do i update the package manager?
[20:05] <Leto> blubb
[20:06] <Mamarok> xsebsx: once you closed the package sources window, look at your screen, everything is well explained there
[20:06] <Mamarok> Leto: do you have a question?
[20:06] <Mamarok> xsebsx: just try to find out yourself, I am sure you can
[20:06] <xsebsx> Mamarok: there's software updates, there's a button that says apply all available updates, should i click on that or should i refrain from doing so
[20:07] <Mamarok> xsebsx: what do you think? did you read what I told you earlier?
[20:07] <xsebsx> well i think yes
[20:07] <msi_> i need to install network printer, but cant do it and i cant find some net-howto tutorial... i have kubuntu 9, i would like to know how protocol is used in home wifi net
[20:07] <Mamarok> xsebsx: well, no!
[20:07] <xsebsx>  but i don't know if that's exactly it
[20:08] <Mamarok> xsebsx: do not apply all available updates, just update the sources tree, that is in the same option as where you edited the sources, see the bzuttons at the bottom?
[20:08] <xsebsx> see? great that i asked
[20:08] <msi_> or do smb speak slovak/czech?
[20:09] <Mamarok> msi_: what would be the lnaguage-code for that language?
[20:09] <Mamarok> language*
[20:09] <xsebsx> i just clicked on unsupported updates, then closed the dialogue, then it loaded something up and then it did nothing further
[20:10] <msi_> SK/CZ?
[20:10] <Mamarok> xsebsx: look at your screenm without doing anything, just go through the available options on the left menu and check if you can find out yourself, it's really not difficult
[20:10] <Mamarok> xsebsx: I will not always be around...
[20:11] <Mamarok> !sk | msi_
[20:11] <msi_> thanks
[20:11] <Mamarok> msi_: and I guess the czech one is the same name code, mabe they even have a #kubuntu-cz
[20:11] <Mamarok> maybe*
[20:11] <xsebsx> Mamarok: i know that! but there's no button at the bottom, just reset and close, and i closed
[20:12] <Mamarok> xsebsx: well, then reopen it...
[20:12] <xsebsx> just did
[20:13] <redleer> how do i make network manager to remember configs i put there? it always forgets those and sets something random so i cant get my wireless modem to work
[20:13] <xsebsx> software sources, kubuntu, software, third party software,updates,authentication and statistics tabs
[20:14] <Mamarok> xsebsx: please, just read the options there and try to find out for yourself, it's not that difficult... *sigh*
[20:14] <Mamarok> and only ask if you really can't find out yourself, no need to read aloud here
[20:15] <xsebsx> all i want to know is how to upgrade amarok and make it my default player, once ive done it i wil be able to do it again
[20:15] <Mamarok> xsebsx: and you are not supposed to reopen the sources editor... just look around in the software iunstaller and check the options that are there, you already updated the sources...
[20:15] <Mamarok> and read what I said earlier, I told you everything already
[20:15]  * Mamarok is going to eat now
[20:16] <xsebsx> ok i went and looked for amarok
[20:17] <xsebsx> and there's some options, one of them says architecture independent files for amarok
[20:17] <msi_> ou... .no answer there
[20:17] <xsebsx> 2:2
[20:17] <ikonia> what's up ?
[20:19] <xsebsx> great
[20:19] <xsebsx> i think i uninstalled amarok
[20:19] <msi_> so maybe asking again... could somebody help me with instalation of network printer. i am newbie here, maybe its enough to know what protoocol /TCP?/ should i use
[20:19] <ikonia> msi_: what type of printer and how do you plan to network it ?
[20:20] <xsebsx> *goes and sudo aptitude installs amarok*
[20:21] <ikonia> xsebsx: why are you installing it if you've just uninstalled it ?
[20:22] <rig> xsebsx was trying to update amarok, not uninstall it :P
[20:22] <msi_> ikonia: i had use that under win, its allready connected to my home - wifi net. computer directly connected with printer is working on win... is that available to do that?
[20:22] <luis_> I need help with virtual box, i got an error: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System Halted, but i already selected my ISO of XP in mount CD/DVD-RW, cannot understand whats happening, someone help me pls
[20:23] <ikonia> msi_: ok - so you just want to use cups to connect to a network printer on a tcp ip connection over wirless ?
[20:23] <msi_> ikonia: IP adress and other i certainly know
[20:23] <ikonia> luis_: #vbox maybe for virtual box
[20:23] <msi_> ikonia: yes
[20:23] <ikonia> msi_: ok - so what type of printer is it ?
[20:23] <msi_> ikonia: HP laserjet 1200
[20:24] <ikonia> msi_: ok so that should be well supported by cups
[20:24] <ikonia> !cups
[20:24] <ikonia> msi_: had a read through any of those ?
[20:24] <xsebsx> Mamarok: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1531729
[20:25] <ikonia> xsebsx: what's the problem ?
[20:25] <msi_> ikonia: yes, i have googled, but i installed kubuntu 9 and all papers were about 8 or "older"... i will read that
[20:26] <xsebsx> ikonia, i want to have the latest version of amarok installed and set as my default player so that if i click on any mp3 it will open on amarok
[20:27] <redleer> my network manager just wont remember settings :/
[20:27] <ikonia> xsebsx: I don't think there is a "latest" package for amarok
[20:27] <ikonia> xsebsx: I think there are later versions than the one included in ubuntu, but they are not supported, at best they will be backports from karmic, but as that's not production worthy yet, I doubt it's worth it
[20:28] <xsebsx> ok, well it seemed as though it would be helpful to have the latest version
[20:28] <ikonia> why ?
[20:28] <ikonia> what gives you that ide
[20:29] <xsebsx> i don't know, mamarok asked if i had it, that it might not necessrily be the latest because of it being the one that comes with kde 4.3
[20:29] <ikonia> skilled developers have put time in to packaging the best version they see fit for ubuntu 9.04 in terms of compatability and stability, what makes you think you need something different
[20:30] <luis_> I need help with virtual box, i got an error: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System Halted, but i already selected my ISO of XP in mount CD/DVD-RW, cannot understand whats happening, someone help me pls
[20:30] <luis_> no one helps in vbox...
[20:31] <xsebsx> i dont know, mamarok made it seem like it might not be bad, i can't even remember all i wanted was to set up amarok as my default plaer so that any mp3 i click on will open on amarok as totem is not playing the mp3s' sound
[20:31] <ikonia> luis_: it says it can't read the boot media, have you tested the boot medium ?
[20:31] <luis_> mmm?
[20:31] <luis_> go easy pls, this is the first time i install this...
[20:31] <ikonia> luis_: have you tested the boot medium it's complaining is bad ?
[20:32] <ikonia> xsebsx: I'd suggest you just set the default player be armarok
[20:32] <xsebsx> yes
[20:32] <xsebsx> how do i do that
[20:32] <xsebsx> that's what i was originally askign
[20:32] <ikonia> xsebsx: from within kde, I'm not sure what the tool is called
[20:34] <msi_> where can i see printers jobs?
[20:34] <Byron> I'm planning on buying a new video card. Has anyone reported issues with nVidia GeForce 7600GS?
[20:34] <luis_> so...
[20:34] <ikonia> msi_: lpstat
[20:34] <ikonia> !nvidia > Byron
[20:36] <xsebsx> ikonia: how do i make it so that if i click any random mp3 file it will open through amarok, right now if i click on an mp3 it will open on totem and there won't be any sound
[20:36] <ikonia> xsebsx: I'm trying to find the tools name in kde, I don't know it in kde, only gnome
[20:37] <rig> xsebsx: what program opens as the default when you click a mp3 file?
[20:38] <xsebsx> another problem I'm having: I originally had a cable connection, bought a new laptop, it came with vista, bought a wireless router, configured the router on vista, got soulseek and downloaded some files, then got rid of vista installed ubuntu, now i got nicotine, but osmehow my ports seem to be closed or something because i cant connect to other users, only to the ubuntu server so that everytime i click on a download the file says cannot connect on its
[20:38] <xsebsx>  status
[20:39] <xsebsx> rig: totem
[20:39] <xsebsx> and there's no osund on it
[20:50] <tdn> I get this error when trying to mount an NFS share: mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'syrah:/data/nfs' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[20:50] <tdn> What does that mean?
[20:51] <apparle> Guys plz help I am trying to download libsexy2 package for VLC but the word 'sex' is block by college server and so I can't download the file...Someone plz rename it to something else and send me plz
[20:52] <apparle> plz help the file is only of 50KBs plz send it plzzzz
[20:53] <apparle> anyone here plzzzzzzzzzz help plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[20:54] <MyUser5I> apparle: 32bit or 64bit? I only have karmic 64bit, but I hope the file is the same for jaunty 64bit
[20:55] <apparle> MyUser5I: here is the direct link http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsexy/libsexy2_0.1.11-2_i386.deb
[20:55] <MyUser5I> thanks
[20:56] <MyUser5I> I have renamed it into libvlc...
[20:56] <luis_> I need help with virtual box, i got an error: FATAL: Could not read from the boot medium! System Halted, but i already selected my ISO of XP in mount CD/DVD-RW, cannot understand whats happening, someone help me plsç
[20:57] <apparle> MyUser5I: you will have to put it on some site coz I am using webchat IRC
[20:58] <rafael> hello
[20:59] <MyUser5I> apparle: ok moment
[20:59] <rafael> can I dowload Kubuntu 7.04 'Feisty' from anywhere?
[21:00] <lyhana8> hi, why does tagging and comment are disable on dolphin under KDE4.3 ?
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> rafael- you can, but it isn't supported anymore
[21:00] <rafael> Dragnslcr: where is it?
[21:01] <MyUser5I> apparle: http://rapidshare.com/files/268126814/libvlc2_0.1.11-2_i386.deb.html
[21:01] <Dragnslcr> rafael- http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[21:01] <apparle> thanks MyUser5I thanks
[21:01] <MyUser5I> np
[21:02] <rafael> thanks Dragnslcr
[21:14] <apparle> hwo to configure arora to use proxy server
[21:15] <MyUser5I> apparle: Edit --> Settings --> Proxy
[21:15] <apparle> anyone expert in making DEB packages from source
[21:16] <apparle> MyUser5I: I don't have any proxy username and password...........should I leave them blank
[21:16] <MyUser5I> Try it
[21:16] <MyUser5I> I think so
[21:16] <apparle> MyUser5I: not working
[21:16] <MyUser5I> apparle: Are you sure you have set the right proxy type?
[21:21] <apparle> MyUser5I: I tried them both............
[21:21] <MyUser5I> apparle: If you want to use a local proxy, I may try it myself
[21:21] <MyUser5I> apparle: I only tried squid and i2p - both of them should work
[21:22] <apparle> MyUser5I: what do you mean by local proxy
[21:22] <MyUser5I> apparle: A proxy running on localhost
[21:22] <pescado> hello there anybody can help me with printer mx 300
[21:22] <pescado> canon
[21:22] <pescado> any expert
[21:24] <apparle> MyUser5I: I am behind a college proxy server
[21:24] <MyUser5I> apparle: Oh - and I tried squid on a different computer too - but actually I am using karmic so maybe they have fixed some bugs which are still there in jaunty
[21:24] <MyUser5I> apparle: Ah - ok
[21:26] <emmanuel> FRENCH
[21:26] <MyUser5I> #kubuntu-fr
[21:28] <apparle_> MyUser5I: sorry my connection disconnected............what were you sying
[21:29] <jhutchins> apparle_: Are you able to use Firefox through the proxy?
[21:29] <MyUser5I> apparle_: Nothing important beside that I am using karmic which may mean some bugs are fixed in arora which are still there in jaunty
[21:35] <el> Some program always creates a folder ~/$HOME, ... what is this?
[21:37] <apparle_> jhutchins: I have not tried coz the download is large
[21:38] <waltzingalong> el: a program such as?
[21:40] <apparle_> anyone is good at making DEB files??
[21:43] <el> waltzingalong: I don't know, but if I delete this directory it will get recreated sooner or later, thats why I'm asking.
[21:44] <mrcognitive> can anyone tell me why my 64 bit flash is not showing some videos ?
[21:44] <waltzingalong> el: seems to be a problem with said script then. guessing, one expects home to point to /home/username but perhaps escaping it incorrectly to wind up at ~ (which also points to home) / $HOME
[21:45] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: some work, some do not? some in flash9 others in flash10?
[21:45] <mrcognitive> could this be the reason why i can not access videos on hulu , or did i batch the instalment ?
[21:50] <mrcognitive> i installed a 64 bit flash 10 and de installed my 32 bit .
[21:51] <mrcognitive> i created a file under .mozilla called plugins and thought that would work
[21:54] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: do you see flash listed in the about:plugins in firefox?
[21:55] <waltzingalong> !info flashplugin-nonfree | mrcognitive
[21:56] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: i would probably go that route (though just 32bit here)
[21:57] <apparle_> someone plz make a DEB from the source I provide............I have slow connection..........can't download all the dev packages
[21:57] <mrcognitive> so i should continue to run the 32 none free ?
[21:58] <mrcognitive> at the moment i have it uninstalled , and my plugins are shockwave 9.1.0 and windows flash 10.1.0
[22:00] <mrcognitive> i am good to go when it comes to sources like youtube but not anything else
[22:00] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: but it seems the flashplugin-nonfree would install the 64bit flash plugin for you
[22:01] <mrcognitive> thats what i thought . when searching through the SPH i found the snplugin 32 bit uninstalled but did not find a 64
[22:02] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: and on the other sites, there is just a blank where the flash blob should be? or browser complains about a missing plugin?
[22:02] <mrcognitive> the flash pluggin none free was worded as 10.0.1 so it was up to date but i thought something could have been missing
[22:02] <mrcognitive> no ... the screen is just gry
[22:02] <mrcognitive> grey
[22:02] <mrcognitive> where the picture should be
[22:05] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: so it seems that the something claiming to handle the content type (the plugin) is found but maybe it is misconfigured?
[22:06] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: using kubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)?
[22:06] <mrcognitive> yeah
[22:10] <mrcognitive> i guess i can go into SPM and just reinstall FP-NF , but should i reinstall nsplugin along with it ?
[22:11] <waltzingalong> !flashamd64
[22:11] <waltzingalong> !flash64
[22:12] <waltzingalong> hm but that shows how to use the 32bit version
[22:13] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: i would remove all of flash then install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[22:13] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: which i am guessing would install the 64bit version of flash v10
[22:14] <mrcognitive> no you are correct . when first checking the SPH there was flash none free 10 but i suspected it to not be working since it was only 32 bit
[22:14] <mrcognitive> so i upgraded to the 64 .
[22:15] <jonah1980> hi guys, i have no wireless on jaunty or ethernet. my network controller is ar9285 and ethernet is attansic 1062. i have googled it and i've put the backports repo in and also installed  linux-backports-modules-jaunty, so i really can't understand why it's not working, can anyone please help me get it working?? please
[22:15] <mrcognitive> i guess i'll just uninstall the 64 and go back to factory
[22:15] <waltzingalong> mrcognitive: ok thanks for the update
[22:16] <mrcognitive> thanks for the advice waltzingalong
[22:18]  * cmege_away is away: Gone away for now
[22:26] <sopr> hi everyone
[22:28] <sopr> does anyone know the right terminal command for reset your workingcopy in svn?
[22:29] <sopr> noone?
[22:40] <Creator> I have a problem with an external hardrive.. when i power up my system the drive dosen't seem to power up alongside it - Is't gray in "Places".
[22:42] <Creator> Just clicking on the drive on the drive solve this.. BUT since im using Kubuntu as a bace im my mediacenter and XBMC on top it's disturbing to have to quit XBMC every time i trart the computer to include my external hardrive..
[22:43] <Creator> AND my DiNovo external keyboard dosen't power u either, i have to remove the usb-dongle every time..
[22:43] <EagleScreen> i cannot run firefox-3.5.2 (upstream tarball) in Kubuntu 8.04.3, i obtain this error: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[23:29] <Mamarok> ikonia: fyi, xsebsx was asking again and again the same questions although I pointed him to the right tool, asked him to read what I said
[23:30] <Mamarok> so if people are too lazy to read and open their eyes, I give up, I have better to do but holding hands and do spoonfeeding to lazy people
[23:30] <Mamarok> especially because he came in claiming to be familiar with installing and such and then behave like a beginner who doesn't even look at his screen
[23:49] <kid_> hi,anybody here tried kde 4.3 on kubuntu 9.04?
[23:50] <kid_> lots of problems occured
[23:50] <kid_> it seems it is impossible to have kde 4.3 on kubuntu 9.04
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> It works fine for me
[23:53] <kid_> Dragnslcr: i tried 3 times, i installed kubuntu 9.04. then i added the ppa launchpad repository and updated, after update to kde 4.3, the background disappeared and a check screen is shwon,no widget,no applet, no title bar, nothing
[23:53] <kid_> kde menu is opened at top of the screen, tip r shown at top
[23:53] <Dragnslcr> Could be a video driver issue. I know someone else had the same problem, but I don't know of a fix
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> Might want to check the forums for other reports of the same problem
[23:54] <kid_> Dragnslcr: don't know. i tried both with nvidia driver and without the driver