[10:05] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[13:32] <mac_v> thorwil: hi , WIP for boot gdm, comments ? http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/gdm.png
[13:33] <mac_v> it has a lot of things that need to be done to give it a more 3D feel , just dont know how to do it subtle !
[13:34] <thorwil> mac_v: not enough padding above/below the avatar images
[13:35] <thorwil> would work without that bright frame, indicating selection by size, only
[13:35] <thorwil> too much padding to the left of avatars
[13:35] <thorwil> (relatively)
[13:35] <mac_v> ah. yeah
[13:36] <thorwil> seems blurry
[13:36] <mac_v> which?
[13:36] <thorwil> if there are supposed to be shadows, you need to do something to the edges of the boxes
[13:36] <thorwil> the item boxes
[13:37] <thorwil> you will have to adjust the login options bar
[13:38] <thorwil> coffee, cake and cycling time, bbl
[13:38] <mac_v> hehe ;)
[15:48] <MadsRH> Does anyone know how Xsplash work?
[16:28] <mac_v> !xsplash
[16:28] <mac_v> !find xsplash
[16:29] <mac_v> sheesh!
[16:30] <mac_v> !info xsplash
[16:49] <mac_v> comments anyone > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/gdm.png < just trying an idea for the user list , nothing but the user list has been changed
[17:01] <MadsRH> Is the artwork hardcoded or can you change the animation, background, etc.?
[17:04] <mac_v> MadsRH: actually i wanted to show it to mat as an idea for the gdm , so it is supposed to have animation where the user name grows and comes forward
[17:05] <MadsRH> mac_v -> That would look great. Looking forward to seeing the animation ;-)
[17:06] <mac_v> MadsRH: do you notice any artistic flaws in the list?
[17:22] <MadsRH> mac_v -> no, it looks great, but if there were more than the five users I would make the top/bottom ones semi-transparent / fadeout - just a thought
[17:22] <mac_v> MadsRH: for long lists > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/gdm-grip.png
[17:23] <mac_v> yeah the fade idea is nice
[17:27] <MadsRH> mac_v -> or perhaps arrows at the top/bottom? but of course the scrollbar tells you how long the list is, so I guess that one is better
[17:28] <rsc___> oooh ubuntu artwork progress!
[17:28] <rsc___> yummy
[17:28] <thorwil> mac_v: an option for long lists would be to make it a tsunami menu
[17:28] <mac_v> yeah , i thought of that  too. but the size of the list was the prob , but i would prefer the arrows
[17:28] <mac_v> thorwil: what? ;p
[17:29] <mac_v> thorwil: did you just get back or did you check the link?
[17:31] <thorwil> mac_v: also called fish-eye menu. basically what apple does with the icons on the panel
[17:32] <thorwil> mac_v: but this principal has been applied to alphabetically sorted lists with many, many items. works
[17:32] <mac_v> thorwil: ah that , nice ...
[17:32] <thorwil> mac_v: http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/fisheyemenu/
[17:33] <mac_v> hmmm.... interesting
[17:36] <MadsRH> thorwil -> +1 looks like an interesting idea
[17:37]  * mac_v  would love if the gdm was made fisheye  > 3 so that more can appreciate it 
[17:37] <thorwil> mac_v: regarding http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/gdm-grip.png, is the user name supposed to change from left aligned to centered on selection?
[17:38] <mac_v> yes
[17:38] <thorwil> odd
[17:38] <mac_v> thorwil: just trying crazy stuff ;p
[17:39] <mac_v> thorwil: seemed like the names right-aligned was a waste of horizontal space , so centered the selected name only
[17:44] <rsc___> it may look weird when it shifts from left-aligned to center aligned (when something is selected)
[17:45] <rsc___> but i dont know
[17:45] <rsc___> :)
[17:45] <mac_v> rsc___: its just a mockup , definately center aligned wont be done , so no worries
[17:47]  * thorwil -> dinner
[17:47] <rsc___> thorwil: how did Kyudo do? :)
[17:48] <rsc___> i ahvent been around for a while
[17:48] <mac_v> rsc___: what kyudo?
[17:48] <mac_v> whats*
[18:27] <thorwil> rsc___: hi. i took it apart and you now find it spread apart at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation
[18:28] <rsc___> ah.
[18:28] <rsc___> sweet.
[18:30] <thorwil> mac_v: it was an attempt at a design process and documentation to have a basis for community artwork
[18:31] <thorwil> mac_v: to define what the goals are. to get away from all this "too brown!" vs "not brown enough!"
[18:35] <rsc___> LOL at "not brown enough"
[18:35] <rsc___> how many times have i heard that :/
[18:35] <rsc___> though all the "should be brown" and "shouldn't be brown" talk all cancel each other often
[18:35] <thorwil> rsc___: it is right now happening again on the mailing list ...
[18:36] <rsc___> thorwil, whats the latest artwork to be crucified?
[18:36] <thorwil> rsc___: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo
[18:37] <rsc___> hmm
[18:37] <rsc___> nice.
[18:38] <rsc___> any word on the GTK theme btw?
[18:38] <thorwil> no
[18:39] <thorwil> it wouldn't surprise me to be treated with black panels ;)
[18:39] <rsc___> haha.
[18:41] <thorwil> rsc___: look at one level up for contrast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/
[18:41] <rsc___> btw, usplash is going to be replaced by something new, yeah?
[18:42] <rsc___> not bad
[18:42] <rsc___> mr. doob's is pretty cute too
[18:42] <thorwil> "* Graphical boot splash that will be running on top of X-server, not Usplash "
[18:42] <rsc___> cool.
[18:43] <rsc___> i would assume X would kick in sooner in the boot process
[18:43] <rsc___> for this to happen, i mean
[22:36]  * SiDi just hopes the final infrastructure will come soon enough for boot process
[22:36] <SiDi> So knome can cook up some flying mice for the boot
[22:37] <knome> o.O