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nsahoohi .. I accidentally marked some files under svn control to delete on next commit, how do I undo that?01:07
ebrodernsahoo: #ubuntu-devel isn't a general support channel. For Ubuntu support, you should ask in #ubuntu. Although for help with subversion, you're better off asking in #svn01:08
nsahooI asked in svn01:11
nsahooi was told in #ubuntu to ask here at first01:11
nsahooanyways resolved it01:12
ebroder#ubuntu-devel is specifically for Ubuntu development, not development on Ubuntu in general01:12
ojwbnsahoo: IIRC, svn revert <files>01:19
ojwboh, you resolved it anyway01:19
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damo22which package do i get if i want to compile my own kernel for ubuntu 8.04?04:54
superm1could I get a give-back on mythplugins?07:29
cjwatsonsuperm1: you ought to be able to do that yourself?08:43
cjwatsonfind the build page, hit the retry link08:44
udiioQ: how do I easily touch the "Version" line of a deb control file from bash?09:17
mdkewhat does dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:24
mdkeis that the user interrupting an upgrade or could it be a crash?09:24
cjwatsonudiio: what do you mean by "touch"?09:32
cjwatsonmdke: it means that the parent dpkg-deb process exited, for some reason not explained by that error mesage09:33
cjwatsonwell, exited or otherwise closed the reading end of the pipe the subprocess was trying to write to, but exited is most likely09:34
mdkecjwatson: I'm looking at bug 414237 - there doesn't seem to be any explanation in the terminal log. Do you know if there is any way I can get the reporter to provide more info that might help?09:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 414237 in ubuntu-docs "package ubuntu-docs 9.04.9 failed to install/upgrade: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/gnome/help/about-ubuntu/ru/about-ubuntu.xml')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41423709:34
cjwatsonmdke: you could try getting them to run 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-docs_9.04.10_all.deb' from a terminal and see what it does there09:38
cjwatsonwe should probably filter out such apport reports, they're never package bugs ...09:39
mdkebut I guess it could be a bug of some kind, even if not in ubuntu-docs. I'll do as you've suggested09:39
mdkethanks cjwatson09:41
YokoZarDid sabdfl enable proportional representation for the technical board election?09:41
Laneyare there any platforms or such like available for the election?09:47
LaneyI feel like I'm voting a bit blind09:48
mdkecandidate wiki pages?09:51
YokoZarcjwatson: Yes, but there are 5 winners.  You can either do this by picking the top 5 ranked or by using a condorcet method to pick the set of 5 that beats all other possible sets of 509:54
YokoZar(there's a link to the proportional representation explanation on their page, and whether or not it's on is a checkbox when you create the poll...but it's not clear on the actual ballot which method it uses)09:55
YokoZarhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/proportional.html  <-- their explanation of their PR method09:55
* YokoZar studied voting systems very heavily in college and is very pleased regardless09:56
Laneymdke: have they been updated in general?10:00
* Laney could just look10:00
mdkeLaney: I'm not sure.10:02
Laneyseems not10:03
mdkethe thing taht confused me slightly about the voting process was whether one should try and make the ranking add up, so that if you have 2 people ranked at 1, the next person should be ranked 310:03
cjwatsonYokoZar: oh, right, I don't know, sorry. I would hope that we're picking the top 5 ranked10:03
cjwatsonask Mark :)10:03
YokoZarmdke: it's smart enough to not care10:03
YokoZarmdke: relative position is all that matters10:04
mdkeah, good10:04
LLStarkshow do i send something to the build farm?11:05
ograyou upload a sourcepackage to the archive11:07
LLStarksogra, how do i do that?11:14
ograyou become a developer, gain upload rights and upload your package is one way, you find a developer who has upload rights and convince him/her to sponsor your upload is the other11:14
LLStarkswell, how would i get this into the queue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libass/+bug/41011211:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 410112 in libass "libass 0.9.7 released" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:15
maxbGet it into which queue?11:16
LLStarksfor the build farm.11:16
ograseems ubuntu-universe-sponsors is already subscribed11:17
LLStarkswell, i don't see the gears of progress turning.11:17
ograso it's a matter of being patient or asking someone in #ubuntu-motu to review and upload11:17
ograsee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess11:18
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maxbWhat is the usual time for a MIR to be reviewed and approved?11:27
maxbI need an estimate of whether one which is currently pending is likely to be completed in time for FeatureFreeze11:28
maxblp 41062411:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 410624 in serf "Promote serf from universe to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41062411:28
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slytherinHi. Yesterday I upgraded my PC to karmic. I just added a DVD drive to the PC, but there is no /dev/dvd node created. To which package should I report the problem?13:11
ograkirkland, sorry that it took so log, qemu fix uploaded13:16
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ogragah, pitty dropped my hal fix of the initscript without note15:31
ograheh, i should probably check for which release i build my chroots :P15:45
damo22sorry to sound stupid, how do you reply to a message on a mailing list? i have subscribed and posted a message, but when i posted a reply to my own message back to the mailing list, it appeared as a new post.... i want to be able to post a reply and have it indented in the mailing list16:38
cjwatsonwow, get a less awful mail client :)16:39
cjwatsonthe "reply to all" (or, if available, "reply to list") function in any non-hopeless mail client is sufficient16:40
damo22cjwatson: yeah, im using gmail16:40
damo22is it possible in gmail?16:40
cjwatsonno idea, sorry16:40
iongmail has worked just fine with mailing lists so far.16:40
damo22but reply to all makes the mailing list as a CC16:40
damo22and the primary address is the email of the person who posted16:40
damo22is that correct?16:41
cjwatsonyes, and on some lists that is considered suboptimal, but that is not the question you originally assked ...16:42
cjwatsonthe "reply to list" function, if available, tries to honour the Mail-Followup-To: header, which normally has the effect of putting the mailing list in To: if it can figure out how16:42
cjwatsonbut either of those ought to preserve threading16:43
damo22cjwatson: i dont want to post an email to the guy who posted, and then he gets a second email back from the list16:43
ograafaik you have to copy the CC address to the to field in gmail16:43
ograbut the mail should end up in the proper thread then16:43
cjwatsonlike I say, not the question you asked to start with - you were asking about threading!16:43
damo22ogra: thankyou16:43
cjwatsonthe "new post" bit16:43
cjwatsonif you want to be a really good citizen regarding list replies, you need a mail client that honours mail-followup-to16:44
ogra(note that i dont use gmail, the above is only what i heard from gmail users)16:44
damo22ogra: i will test it now16:44
cjwatsonand if that's something gmail doesn't provide, the right answer may be to ask google to add it, since presumably they are at least in part driven by demand from their users16:45
tikkaI'm curious about how to find out and when the latest kernel, with fixes for the null pointer deference, will be available for ubuntu?16:49
ogratikka, you probably want #ubuntu-security ... but to my knowledge only systems with vm mmap min addr set to 0 are actually vulnerable, note that ubuntu defaults to something a lot higher (i'm not in the security team though and might have misunderstood the issue)16:54
macoubuntu wasnt vulnerable, iirc16:55
tikkathanks ogra, maco16:55
macoi remember seeing someone comment on an article about it with the results of the proof of concept on ubuntu and fedora16:55
ebrodertikka: If you want to be sure, you can `cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr` to see what it's set to on your system16:56
ebroderShould be 6553616:56
ebroderIf it is, you're not vulnerable16:56
tikkathanks ebroder16:57
ogragrr ... Unsupported syscall: 24217:26
* ogra curses mono17:26
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cumulus007In which package is the "Add/Remove..." program packaged?19:41
mpontillocumulus007: gnome-app-install19:43
cumulus007thanks :)19:43
cumulus007"ImportError: libgailutil.so.18: can't open shared object file: no such file or directory"19:45
cumulus007when I start it19:45
mpontillocumulus007: according to 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/libgailutil.*', that's provided by the "libgail18". do you have it installed?19:46
mpontillo*the "libgail18" package, that is19:47
cumulus007Nope, I'll install it19:47
cumulus007it starts up now :)19:47
cumulus007but it crashes after a few seconds19:48
mpontillopossible bug in the gnome-app-install package then? I don't see a 'Depends' line.19:48
cumulus007"glib.GError: Icon 'distributor-logo' not present in theme". I'm running Kubuntu with the Oxygen theme, could that be the problem?19:48
mpontillohmm that logo file is provided by the human-icon-theme package ;) tangled web this is19:49
mpontilloand/or gnome-icon-theme, ubuntu-artwork, ... and a number of other theme packages. not certain how the themes work so if the oxygen theme has to provide it and isn't...?19:51
cumulus007mpontillo: even when I change my icon theme to Human, it still crashes19:59
popeyanyone know what package I should file a bug against for the "shutdown/reboot/hibernate/suspend" screen in gnome?20:12
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popeygnome-session perhaps20:12
mpontilloyou could try could try hacking /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/AppInstall/Menu.py to get it to work. see if replacing the line that does "item = Category(self, self.all_category_name, "distributor-logo")" to remove the last parameter helps, or if it just crashes on some other icon20:59
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dupondjeis there a bugpage for upgrade bugs from Jaunty to Karmic ?22:33
dupondjecause its a hell :s22:33
dtchenjdstrand: bug updated with information regarding a current test kernel22:34

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