[00:03] mdke, I think we have some overlap in the use of the ContentCleanup and StyleCleanup tags. [00:03] I think "Pages with confusing or inadequate structure. " and "Pages which are 'over-structured' (i.e. too many short sections) " belong under StyleCleanup [00:03] actually the latter is already stated in different words under StyleCleanup [00:04] and we should add to ContentCleanup, something like "Pages with material that is not up-to-date or valid with the latest Ubuntu release" [00:05] not that it is unsupported, but just doesn't apply to the latest version (a bit confusing to explain clearly) [00:12] Rocket2DMn So, the cleanup tags need a cleanup? [00:13] lukjad007, yup :) [00:13] Haha! [00:14] the tag has been getting used as i explained, it's just not worded so on the page [03:05] Rocket2DMn: Hi [03:12] starcraftman: hi how are you? [03:17] good evening dhillon-v10 [03:17] Rocket2DMn: how are you [03:17] doin well thanks, and you? [03:18] Rocket2DMn: not bad actually [03:18] Rocket2DMn: I have a question, as usual :) [03:18] lol, ok [03:20] lo' dhillon-v10, sorry was out a bit, lo to you too Rocket2DMn [03:20] Rocket2DMn: Alright so I was looking in my system guide (the one that came installed on my system) and in the programming section, I found that one of the links that was apt:gambas wasn't working there was a dialogue box saying package not found and when I do that in synaptic it works, is that a possible bug [03:20] starcraftman: how are you [03:21] dhillon-v10, yes, that is a bug. However, recent discussion on the mailing list and a bug report opened by Phil Bull tells us that we are probably going to remove the programming section from the system docs [03:21] it looks like that gambas package only exists in the Dapper repositories [03:22] Rocket2DMn: It isn't the only package and can you tell me why are we removing the programming section [03:22] dhillon-v10: had better days, was just offline for an hour and a bit after a problem during update. Fixed up, now back to well wiki work. :) [03:22] dhillon-v10, you can report that as a bug and they system docs devs will figure out how to proceed [03:22] dhillon-v10, first things first - given that the programming section is still there, i would report any problems you find with it [03:22] dhillon-v10: correction, day was fine, was just the after supper that annoyed me. [03:23] Rocket2DMn: Alright if you say so [03:23] starcraftman: LOL [03:23] dhillon-v10, as per your question about why it's being removed, I think the consensus was that it isnt material appropriate for normal desktop systems [03:24] Rocket2DMn: ah smart [03:25] yeah, i think it is a good call [03:27] Rocket2DMn: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/414287 done [03:27] Launchpad bug 414287 in ubuntu-docs "links broken in help and support section" [Undecided,New] [03:28] Rocket2DMn: who is ubot4 [03:31] j1mc: how are you? [03:32] dhillon-v10, that is a bot [03:33] Rocket2DMn: okay [03:33] lol, not a very detailed bug report dhillon-v10 , but it will do [03:33] Rocket2DMn: I want to know more about solving bugs that I get in my mail [03:34] Rocket2DMn: I seem to be helpless for other people who need me [03:34] Rocket2DMn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix I read that but not helping [03:34] what bugs do you get in your mail? [03:35] Rocket2DMn: Mostly regarding sound and kernel problems [03:35] Rocket2DMn: I know programming but in this case I can't do anything [03:36] fixing bugs like that is complicated, you need to work upstream with the linux kernel developers and audio/soundserver developers (like PulseAudio) [03:36] Rocket2DMn: Please elaborate [03:37] I don't have most of those answers dhillon-v10 , i dont develop for them [03:37] you would need to talk to the kernel team and audio team folks [03:37] Rocket2DMn: should I try google to look for them [03:41] dhillon-v10, yeah, they should have pages on wiki.ubuntu.com [03:41] Rocket2DMn: sorry i gotta go, talk to you later and thanks [03:50] Rocket2DMn: I'm not a bot. :) [03:51] I work on Xubuntu docs [03:51] Jim C. :) [03:57] lo' there j1mc, kinda quiet night, guess rocket's busy. Though last time I said his name he magically appeared.... [03:57] * starcraftman braces self for surprise. [03:57] :) [03:58] I guess it only works once a day. [03:58] mebbe [03:58] i just think it's funny that he thinks i'm a bot [03:58] lol j1mc , he asked about ubot4 , i'm the only other bot here [03:59] lol starcraftman , i havent failed you yet today :) [03:59] YES! I got the touch :) [03:59] twice before i logged into irc on cue :) [03:59] :) [03:59] Rocket2DMn: i see now... that's funny. [04:00] what an awesome bug - bug 414287 [04:00] Launchpad bug 414287 in ubuntu-docs "links broken in help and support section" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414287 [23:30] Rocket2DMn: Hi, how are you