[00:03] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, I think we have some overlap in the use of the ContentCleanup and StyleCleanup tags.
[00:03] <Rocket2DMn> I think "Pages with confusing or inadequate structure. " and "Pages which are 'over-structured' (i.e. too many short sections) " belong under StyleCleanup
[00:03] <Rocket2DMn> actually the latter is already stated in different words under StyleCleanup
[00:04] <Rocket2DMn> and we should add to ContentCleanup, something like "Pages with material that is not up-to-date or valid with the latest Ubuntu release"
[00:05] <Rocket2DMn> not that it is unsupported, but just doesn't apply to the latest version (a bit confusing to explain clearly)
[00:12] <lukjad007> Rocket2DMn So, the cleanup tags need a cleanup?
[00:13] <Rocket2DMn> lukjad007, yup :)
[00:13] <lukjad007> Haha!
[00:14] <Rocket2DMn> the tag has been getting used as i explained, it's just not worded so on the page
[03:05] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Hi
[03:12] <dhillon-v10> starcraftman: hi how are you?
[03:17] <Rocket2DMn> good evening dhillon-v10
[03:17] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: how are you
[03:17] <Rocket2DMn> doin well thanks, and you?
[03:18] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: not bad actually
[03:18] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: I have a question, as usual :)
[03:18] <Rocket2DMn> lol, ok
[03:20] <starcraftman> lo' dhillon-v10, sorry was out a bit, lo to you too Rocket2DMn
[03:20] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Alright so I was looking in my system guide (the one that came installed on my system) and in the programming section, I found that one of the links that was apt:gambas wasn't working there was a dialogue box saying package not found and when I do that in synaptic it works, is that a possible bug
[03:20] <dhillon-v10> starcraftman: how are you
[03:21] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, yes, that is a bug.  However, recent discussion on the mailing list and a bug report opened by Phil Bull tells us that we are probably going to remove the programming section from the system docs
[03:21] <Rocket2DMn> it looks like that gambas package only exists in the Dapper repositories
[03:22] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: It isn't the only package and can you tell me why are we removing the programming section
[03:22] <starcraftman> dhillon-v10: had better days, was just offline for an hour and a bit after a problem during update. Fixed up, now back to well wiki work. :)
[03:22] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, you can report that as a bug and they system docs devs will figure out how to proceed
[03:22] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, first things first - given that the programming section is still there, i would report any problems you find with it
[03:22] <starcraftman> dhillon-v10: correction, day was fine, was just the after supper that annoyed me.
[03:23] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Alright if you say so
[03:23] <dhillon-v10> starcraftman: LOL
[03:23] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, as per your question about why it's being removed, I think the consensus was that it isnt material appropriate for normal desktop systems
[03:24] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: ah smart
[03:25] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, i think it is a good call
[03:27] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/414287  done
[03:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414287 in ubuntu-docs "links broken in help and support section" [Undecided,New]
[03:28] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: who is ubot4
[03:31] <dhillon-v10> j1mc: how are you?
[03:32] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, that is a bot
[03:33] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: okay
[03:33] <Rocket2DMn> lol, not a very detailed bug report dhillon-v10 , but it will do
[03:33] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: I want to know more about solving bugs that I get in my mail
[03:34] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: I seem to be helpless for other people who need me
[03:34] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix I read that but not helping
[03:34] <Rocket2DMn> what bugs do you get in your mail?
[03:35] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Mostly regarding sound and kernel problems
[03:35] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: I know programming but in this case I can't do anything
[03:36] <Rocket2DMn> fixing bugs like that is complicated, you need to work upstream with the linux kernel developers and audio/soundserver developers (like PulseAudio)
[03:36] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Please elaborate
[03:37] <Rocket2DMn> I don't have most of those answers dhillon-v10 , i dont develop for them
[03:37] <Rocket2DMn> you would need to talk to the kernel team and audio team folks
[03:37] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: should I try google to look for them
[03:41] <Rocket2DMn> dhillon-v10, yeah, they should have pages on wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: sorry i gotta go, talk to you later and thanks
[03:50] <j1mc> Rocket2DMn: I'm not a bot. :)
[03:51] <j1mc> I work on Xubuntu docs
[03:51] <j1mc> Jim C.  :)
[03:57] <starcraftman> lo' there j1mc, kinda quiet night, guess rocket's busy. Though last time I said his name he magically appeared....
[03:57]  * starcraftman braces self for surprise.
[03:57] <j1mc> :)
[03:58] <starcraftman> I guess it only works once a day.
[03:58] <j1mc> mebbe
[03:58] <j1mc> i just think it's funny that he thinks i'm a bot
[03:58] <Rocket2DMn> lol j1mc , he asked about ubot4 , i'm the only other bot here
[03:59] <Rocket2DMn> lol starcraftman , i havent failed you yet today :)
[03:59] <starcraftman> YES! I got the touch :)
[03:59] <Rocket2DMn> twice before i logged into irc on cue :)
[03:59] <j1mc> :)
[03:59] <j1mc> Rocket2DMn: i see now... that's funny.
[04:00] <Rocket2DMn> what an awesome bug - bug 414287
[04:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414287 in ubuntu-docs "links broken in help and support section" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414287
[23:30] <dhillon-v10> Rocket2DMn: Hi, how are you