[00:04] <penguin42> so my old .mozilla/firefox should have become .mozilla/firefox.3.0-replaces and .mozilla/firefox-3.5 would become .mozilla/firefox - so seems sane
[00:04] <asac_> penguin42: yes.
[00:04] <asac_> penguin42: question is: does your old firefox 3.0 profile look like hte one you have now?
[00:04] <BUGabundo> I just don't see my 3.5 old profile in there :(
[00:04] <asac_> penguin42: also did you have firefox 3.0 still running when you did this migration?
[00:05] <asac_> penguin42: that might be interesting and we should put a safety net in the script i think
[00:05] <BUGabundo> nor I remember seeing the question when I test-run the migration before it hit the archive
[00:05] <penguin42> asac_: Good question; I think I had firefox-3.5 running when this migration happened possibly?
[00:05] <asac_> BUGabundo: it was in ppa for 1 or 2 days before going to archive
[00:05] <asac_> penguin42: hmm. that shouldnt be that bad i think
[00:06] <asac> in any case it shouldnt migrate if anything is still running
[00:06] <asac> rather pop up a dialog saying: "stop all firefox instances first"
[00:06] <penguin42> asac: ? What in that script detect sthat?
[00:06] <asac> but we did the same for firefox 2->3 migration
[00:06] <asac> and had almost no complains
[00:06] <asac> penguin42: it doesnt do that atm
[00:06] <asac> we would have to do something new for that
[00:07] <penguin42> ah right - I didn't think I could see anything....
[00:07] <penguin42> asac: The thing is the state I was in after migration was no old bookmarks, no browser history or any other data
[00:10] <penguin42> asac: IMHO that script needs to create a log of what it did, when and also needs error checking on it's shell commands
[00:13]  * penguin42 finds his firefox.3.0-replaced has a firefox subdirectory
[00:16] <penguin42> I think that script has tried to do the move twice
[00:18] <penguin42> asac: OK, try this scenario - I don't know if it's what happened or not; I click a link that runs /usr/bin/firefox and then click it again before I notice the dialog; both instances bring up dialogs, and I answer 'keep 3.5 settings' to one, then I see the 2nd dialog and I think 'shrug, it didn't do it - ok, same again' and click 'keep 3.5 settings'
[00:20] <penguin42> ahha!
[00:20] <penguin42> yes
[00:22] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Can you look inside your firefox.3.0-replaced and see if you have a firefox dir?
[00:23] <BUGabundo> looking
[00:23] <BUGabundo> don't think so
[00:23] <BUGabundo> only looks like old 3.0 profiles
[00:24] <penguin42> ok
[00:27]  * penguin42 updates the bug
[00:34] <penguin42> asac: See comment in the bug
[00:42] <penguin42> in other fun and excitement - since the last few weeks I've been getting flash related crashes - commonly if I kill nspluginwrapper firefox seems to go with it - I'd never seen that before ~3 weeks ago
[01:19] <penguin42> hohum
[03:00] <rigo> Anyone: when will firefox 3.5 be available for jaunty?
[03:03] <micahg> rigo, just install firefox-3.5
[03:03] <micahg> it's been there since release
[03:04] <rigo> micahg: I'm refering to canonical's official version
[03:05] <micahg> ugh, it may or may not be
[03:05] <micahg> rigo: It's the same browser
[03:10] <rigo> micahg: k thanks
[11:07] <BUGabundo> good morning
[11:46] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a2pre) Gecko/20090815 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Namoroka/3.6a2pre ID:20090815003024
[11:46] <BUGabundo> humm Namoroka kewl
[11:49] <micahg> BUGabundo: I told you Friday that 3.6 is no longer trunk
[11:50] <BUGabundo> did u»
[11:50] <BUGabundo> don't recall it
[11:50] <BUGabundo> glad I run trunk ppa then :)
[11:51] <micahg> yep, 3.7 is ther
[11:51] <micahg> *there
[11:51] <micahg> I guess it's time to upgrade :)
[11:51]  * BUGabundo looks
[11:51] <BUGabundo>                                          firefox-3.7 - 3.7~a1~hg20090815r31585+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[11:51] <BUGabundo> alpha 1?
[11:52] <micahg> it's trunk
[11:52] <BUGabundo> 3.6 just got pre alpha 2
[11:52] <BUGabundo> olol
[11:52] <micahg> trunk stays alpha until right before it branches AFAIK
[11:52] <BUGabundo> so I just need firefox-3.7-gnome-support ?
[11:52] <BUGabundo> it should pull everything else right?
[11:52] <micahg> If you're using gvfs yes
[11:52] <micahg> yes
[11:53] <BUGabundo> ok
[11:53] <BUGabundo>   firefox-3.7{a} firefox-3.7-branding{a} firefox-3.7-gnome-support xulrunner-1.9.3{a} xulrunner-1.9.3-gnome-support{a}
[11:53] <BUGabundo> there goes ALL my addons again :)
[11:53] <micahg> ooh, didn't know where was xulrunner gnome support
[11:53] <micahg> BUGabundo: you have the override extension though
[11:54] <micahg> if it doesn't break ;)
[11:55] <BUGabundo> well I'll force them to work.
[11:55] <BUGabundo> but not to work WELL
[11:55] <BUGabundo> several addons are broken on 3.6
[11:55] <BUGabundo> like greasemonkey
[11:55] <BUGabundo> tabmixplus
[11:55] <BUGabundo> updir
[11:55] <BUGabundo> nosquint
[11:55] <BUGabundo> stuff I use *daily*
[11:56] <BUGabundo> bbl
[12:22] <mac_v> wow , micahg sleeps only for 4 hrs ! 0.o
[12:22] <mac_v> or even less!
[12:22] <micahg> mac_v: never made it to sleep yet :)
[12:22] <micahg> will go to sleep in about 1.5 hours
[12:22] <micahg> it's morning already
[12:22] <micahg> but whatever
[12:22] <micahg> did that package work for you?
[12:23] <mac_v> yeah... now i have to reconfigure all the settings
[12:24] <mac_v> micahg: this there a bug about firefox and the cursor not being in the right spot?
[12:24] <mac_v> imena the cursor in firefox!
[12:24] <mac_v> i mean*
[12:24] <micahg> you mean seeing a cursor in the text vs a field?
[12:25] <mac_v> when i select & drag text , the cursor shows up at a level higher[3-4 lines] that the pointer
[12:26] <mac_v> also the cursor lags , when i move it using pointers , could it have something to do with me always having firefox ON?
[12:26] <mac_v> but this is a new problem , only after recent updates , and the problem starts even when i start firefox fresh
[12:29] <micahg> I remember just seeing something about that first problem
[12:30] <micahg> bug 413950
[12:32] <mac_v> hm... i think it has nothing to do with the bookmarks but just with the cursor positioning...
[12:32] <micahg> agreed, which leads me to believe it's not even a firefox problem
[12:33] <micahg> maybe check on +1 for cursor odditties
[12:37] <mac_v> micahg: i thought so too , but the cursor drag works well in other apps , i'm now writing a comment on how to test it. its a problem only in firefox. this has been there for several days, maybe even since alpha3 , i was just too lazy to report it!
[12:46] <mac_v> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/413950/comments/2
[12:46] <mac_v> stupid typos! not I... It*
[12:47] <micahg> mac_v: idk about that
[12:48] <mac_v> micahg: hmm... np... I'll ask asac ... should i change the title? and edit the description ?
[12:48] <micahg> it makes sense for the cursor to be where the text would be inserted, line 1
[12:49] <mac_v> what??? i'm confused?  the cursor is always located 3 lines higher than the pointer
[12:50] <micahg> doesn't matter, cursor should be next to the first letter that will be inserted
[12:50] <mac_v> yeah , exactly, something is wrong in firefox
[12:51] <micahg> no, I think the FF behavior is fine
[12:51] <micahg> if you're hanging a picture, do you want it to settle based on the top, or where your ahnds are?
[12:52] <mac_v> micahg: try the same select and drag in text editor , note the pointer is always close to the pointer , this was the behavior , now there is a bug
[12:53] <mac_v> cursor*
[12:54] <micahg> ok, well I think the firefox behavior is correct
[12:55] <mac_v> nah , its wrong , it is difficult for text drag [pictures maybe ok]
[12:56] <micahg> I just tested it, I'd want the cursor to show me where line one is going to be, not where the hand is.
[12:57] <micahg> but you can ask someone else
[12:58] <mac_v> micahg: when you select from line one the cursor doesnt even exist! only when you go down to line 3 the cursor shows up in line 1
[12:58]  * micahg is too tired...
[12:59] <micahg> I won't touch it till tomorrow night
[13:17] <BUGabundo> fta: chromium specific bug ? http://www.jaiku.com/channel/jaikuengine/presence/5e26f1d963a94a2a9e7e07b00d5324e8
[13:17] <BUGabundo> anyone else here using chromium could test that??
[13:36] <BUGabundo> fta                                            20 source packages        (719.1 MiB)             144 binary packages        (24.1 GiB)
[13:36] <BUGabundo> you don't play in service
[13:36] <BUGabundo> lol
[19:44] <fta> asac, "Rejected: PPA exceeded its size limit (10264.00 of 10240.00 MiB). Ask a question in https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/ if you need more space."
[19:45] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[19:45] <fta> asac, could you please request 15GB?
[19:45] <fta> asac, umd
[19:45] <BUGabundo> fta: one more ? LOLOL
[19:45] <BUGabundo> (01:36:45 PM) freenode: fta                                            20 source packages        (719.1 MiB)             144 binary packages        (24.1 GiB)
[19:45] <BUGabundo> I just said that earlier
[19:45] <BUGabundo> eheheh
[19:45] <micahg> fta: are you going to change the name for Namoroka in the menu for 3.6 daily?
[19:46] <fta> micahg, i did, last friday
[19:46] <micahg> hmm
[19:46] <fta> but the ppa got some rejects, maybe in today's builds
[19:46] <BUGabundo> yeah
[19:46] <micahg> I just upgraded and it still says minefield 3.6
[19:46] <micahg> ah
[19:46] <micahg> ok
[19:46] <BUGabundo> mine is called Namoroka
[19:47] <BUGabundo> but gnome do still see minefield
[19:47] <BUGabundo> :\\
[19:47] <BUGabundo> I have TWO minefields on menu eheh
[19:47] <BUGabundo> 3.6 and 3.7
[19:47] <micahg> right
[19:49] <fta> well, it's always the same, before final, should a snapshot build be called minefield of by its codename?
[19:49] <fta> asac wants minefield, i don't mind either way
[19:49] <micahg> hmm, I think codename is more appropriate, but it's asac's call
[19:50] <micahg> I thought minefield was trunk
[19:53] <fta> a long time ago, i called all the tagged releases by their codename, asac preferred to wait for beta 1 (that was 3.0), then he moved to only final (3.5)
[19:54] <BUGabundo> fta: the prob for me is that calling minefield from GnomeDO
[19:54] <BUGabundo> now it *sees* 3.6
[19:54] <BUGabundo> when I want 3.7
[20:06] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be upgraded:
[20:06] <BUGabundo>   chromium-browser firefox firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding firefox-3.5-gnome-support firefox-3.7 firefox-3.7-branding
[20:06] <BUGabundo>   firefox-3.7-gnome-support firefox-gnome-support gwibber xulrunner-1.9.1 xulrunner-1.9.1-gnome-support xulrunner-1.9.3
[20:06] <BUGabundo> this is going to start to hurt
[20:33] <fta> BUGabundo, ?
[20:34] <BUGabundo> fta: have you seen the size of this updates daily ?
[20:35] <fta> well, no one forces you do use them
[20:39] <BUGabundo> dinner bbl
[20:39] <BUGabundo> who is going to test them then???
[20:39] <BUGabundo> pfff
[20:39] <BUGabundo> no need to thank me :\\\
[20:42] <fta> CVE-2009-2416
[20:42] <fta> CVE 2009-2416
[20:42] <fta> CVE 2009 2416
[20:42] <fta> hm
[20:43] <fta> !cvz
[20:43] <fta> !cve
[20:47] <micahg> http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-2416
[20:54] <fta> yep, found it, i'm just glad google finally fixed chromium
[20:55] <fta> i reported it to them when it landed in ubuntu
[21:02] <mac_v> fta: hi... could you look at this > Bug #413950
[21:02] <micahg> mac_v: fta doesn't do bugs
[21:03] <mac_v> ah... sorry fta :)
[21:03] <mac_v> i was hoping he would know what the problem was
[21:16] <BUGabundo> I'm pissed
[21:16] <BUGabundo> laptop halted  with no aparent reason during dinner and FF lost an entire session loaded with Android wikis :(
[21:17] <BUGabundo> it should be able to restore it, but no..... only offers an older one :( FAIL
[21:20] <BUGabundo> fta: kde systemsetting is listing 3.5 as Shiretoko Web Browser
[21:21] <BUGabundo> 3.6 as Minefield 3.6 Web Browser
[21:21] <BUGabundo> 3.7 Minefield 3.7 Web Browser
[21:21] <BUGabundo> Bleed Browser
[21:21] <BUGabundo> Browse the Bleeding Edge
[21:21] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL
[21:26] <fta> BUGabundo, if all are from umd, that's expected
[21:26] <BUGabundo> not all
[21:27] <BUGabundo> I think 3.5 is archive
[21:27] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.5.3~hg20090816r26247+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1
[21:27] <BUGabundo> nope its daily
[21:27] <BUGabundo> 3.5.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[21:27] <BUGabundo> its higher now
[21:44] <fta> downgrade then
[21:45] <BUGabundo> fta: why?
[21:45] <BUGabundo> I won't use it
[21:45] <BUGabundo> actually I haven't used 3.0 or 3.5 for many months
[21:45] <fta> ok
[21:45] <BUGabundo> only do it for testing purpose
[21:45] <BUGabundo> I'm running 3.6, and today started 3.7
[21:46] <BUGabundo> if it wasn't for the depencies, I would remove 3.5 :\
[23:42] <BUGabundo> guud night