[00:00] <r3rman_> so quake live will support linux from Tuesday...
[00:01] <r3rman_> I long for the day of q2dm1... those were the days
[00:01] <psi-jack> But, how are the netgears in Linux these days? I used to use a Netgear FA--- something, only 10/100, but it wasn't always that reliable.
[00:01] <psi-jack> Perhaps the Netgear G-series for gigabit are better?
[06:14] <vecy> hey guys i need a good 'mail server' which one do you recommend
[06:19] <jmarsden> vecy: Use the one you already know how to configure :)  For general purpose use, Postfix is a common and reasonable choice.
[08:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #414359 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot-imapd, PAM auth., krb auth with non-krb user causes crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414359
[09:13] <r3rman_> vecy, smtp.gmail.com is a nice one
[09:13] <r3rman_> non-standard ports though
[09:14] <psi-jack> How about, better, your ISP's mailservers, if you're having to use a smarthost method.
[09:15] <psi-jack> gmail's mail servers require authentication.
[09:15] <psi-jack> And not intended to be a smarthost.
[14:37] <StrangeCharm> what's the name of the metapackage for a lamp install?
[14:48] <pmatulis> StrangeCharm: lamp-server is a tasksel task, it's not a metapackage
[14:48] <StrangeCharm> pmatulis, thanks, someone let me know on #ubuntu
[17:12] <macrocosm> Anyone got a tip for full system backup and restore?  I am using rsnapshot currently for backups but I would like to be able to do a full system backup & restore & im not sure rsnapshot can do all that... anyone use rsnapshot?  Or what do you use for full sys backup/restore capabilities?  I am running server 8.10 still and would like to upgrade to the latest soon but I dont want to without a...
[17:12] <macrocosm> ...clean way to restore in case of meltdown.
[17:39] <alex-weej> what is the "recommended" MTA?
[17:39] <giovani> alex-weej: postfix
[17:39] <alex-weej> thanks!
[17:39] <giovani> macrocosm: what exactly are you trying to do that rsnapshot doesn't?
[17:46] <macrocosm> im still reading the docs so I guess it might... I just want to be able to do full system backups when I need to
[17:46] <giovani> macrocosm: ok ...
[17:48] <macrocosm> a little safety net thats all
[17:49] <giovani> right, backups are obviously a good idea
[17:49] <giovani> "full backups" can mean anything
[17:49] <giovani> it's usually entirely useless to backup binaries, for example
[17:51] <macrocosm> yeah I suppose so .. guess im just used to windows restorepoints .. and vmware workstations snapshots functionality ... I think they do leave out certain bits for sure! otherwise it would waste space needlessly
[17:51] <giovani> there are plenty of way to achieve shapshots within linux
[17:52] <macrocosm> what do you think of rsnapshot?
[17:52] <giovani> but no, windows restorepoints and vmware snapshotting don't leave out anything
[17:52] <giovani> I think it's a fine app
[17:52] <giovani> I don't have any need to do os-level backups though
[17:52] <macrocosm> it seemed to be best choice Ive found... what do you use then?
[17:53] <giovani> my storage platform handles snapshotting/backup
[17:53] <giovani> all of my files sit on a SAN
[17:53] <giovani> the important ones, that is
[17:54] <macrocosm> cool .. thats prolly where I need to go eventually .. store stuff on another machine... I think that can be done with rsnapshot too
[17:54] <giovani> huh? rsnapshot is completely unrelated to network storage
[17:54] <macrocosm> well cant it send the snapshot files to any location?
[17:55] <macrocosm> they dont have to be local right?
[17:55] <giovani> sure ...
[17:55] <giovani> that has to do with backup ... not storage
[17:55] <macrocosm> yeah
[17:59] <macrocosm> giovani: what storage platform are you using?
[18:00] <giovani> a NetApp FAS2020
[18:02] <macrocosm> nice
[18:04] <macrocosm> not cheap thats for sure! But it looks like its got all the goods
[18:57] <monox> Hi folks!
[18:58] <monox> I'm trying to set up some extremely simple network sharing in Linux. Just a windows laptop connected to a linux server connected to the ISP. I followed these instructions -> http://u.nu/38wv
[18:58] <monox> But I wasn't sure what to put as the gateway IP so I just put 192.168.1.1 hoping that would work. But the laptop then fails to connect... what could cause this?
[18:58] <monox> (by fails to connect, I mean it says "connected" but pinging 4.2.2.2 or google fails. I use OpenDNS)
[20:24] <LiraNuna> what's the default FTP server in ubuntu?
[20:24] <LiraNuna> and does it matter if I use it or not? (security wise)
[20:27] <nick125> LiraNuna: I don't think there is a "default" FTP server.
[20:27] <LiraNuna> that answers my question too, thank you
[20:27] <nick125> I'd recommend against FTP for uploading files...use SCP instead.
[20:37] <duiu> ssh is rejecting my password for all users except the one I created at system install (that user can even use key auth). Suggestions? ssh -vv output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/254172 for when I log in and get denied
[22:25] <CopyWriter> hi guys, i've created my network everything is running beautifully
[22:25] <CopyWriter> my last pursuit is how to join my ubuntu desktop to my ubuntu server domain
[22:35] <CopyWriter> pleeeasssee :)
[22:37] <jmarsden> CopyWriter: "Ubuntu server domain" as in you are running Samba as a windows domain controller on the Ubuntu server?  Samba3 (NT-style PDC) or Samba4 (with the new Active Directory stuff)?  And what happens when you try to join your Ubuntu desktop to the domain?  WHat exactly did you try and what error messages did you get?
[22:38] <CopyWriter> not exactly
[22:38] <jmarsden> OK, define "domain" --- DNS domain?  Windows domain? NIS domain??
[22:38] <CopyWriter> i installed ebox, and got the pdc up i'm seeing the server on the network i can connect to it using the share i set up, but when i boot it's only the local account i can gain access into the machine
[22:39] <CopyWriter> I know it's not a windows domain, i'm stumped over that one
[22:40] <jmarsden> "got the PDC up" ... so you configured Samba3 as a NT-style domain controller, right?
[22:40] <CopyWriter> right
[22:40] <jmarsden> OK, so what happens when you try to join the workstation to that NT-style domain?
[22:40] <CopyWriter> that's the thing i dont know how to join the workstation to that domain
[22:41] <CopyWriter> i edited the smb.conf file set the security to domain and the workgroup to the workgroup
[22:41] <CopyWriter> and rebooted and nada :), did a join command i found
[22:42] <CopyWriter> using the net join command
[22:42] <jmarsden> Um... are you using ebox, or are you manually editing config files....?  Doing both is probably unwise.
[22:43] <CopyWriter> eep... i'm doing both
[22:43] <CopyWriter> well i'm editing the conf files on the clients
[22:43] <jmarsden> Why?  Are you 100% sure your manual changes will be recognized by ebox OK and not overwritten?
[22:43] <CopyWriter> and using the web interface for ebox
[22:43] <jmarsden> On the server, you should probably stick to ebox as much as possible once you decide to use it.
[22:44] <CopyWriter> but got no idea how to connect the workstation to the domain
[22:46] <jmarsden> net join is the usual way... what exactly happens when you use it, and exactly what net join command are you using?
[22:47] <CopyWriter> net join -W SCCSDA -U administrator (I USE THIS)
[22:47] <CopyWriter> net [<method>] join [misc. options]
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	joins this server to a domain
[22:47] <CopyWriter> Valid methods: (auto-detected if not specified)
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	ads				Active Directory (LDAP/Kerberos)
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	rpc				DCE-RPC
[22:47] <CopyWriter> Valid targets: choose one (none defaults to localhost)
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-S or --server=<server>		server name
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-I or --ipaddress=<ipaddr>	address of target server
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-w or --workgroup=<wg>		target workgroup or domain
[22:47] <CopyWriter> Valid miscellaneous options are:
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-p or --port=<port>		connection port on target
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-W or --myworkgroup=<wg>	client workgroup
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-d or --debuglevel=<level>	debug level (0-10)
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-n or --myname=<name>		client name
[22:47] <CopyWriter> 	-U or --user=<name>		user name
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-s or --configfile=<path>	pathname of smb.conf file
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-l or --long			Display full information
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-V or --version			Print samba version information
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-P or --machine-pass		Authenticate as machine account
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-e or --encrypt			Encrypt SMB transport (UNIX extended servers only)
[22:48] <CopyWriter> 	-k or --kerberos		Use kerberos (active directory) authentication
[22:48] <CopyWriter> mark@TreasuryEXT:~$
[22:48] <CopyWriter> and get this
[22:48] <jmarsden> Woah.... don't post that much in here
[22:48] <jmarsden> Use pastebin :)
[22:48] <PhotoJim> pastebin :)
[22:48] <CopyWriter> sorry about that
[22:48] <CopyWriter> didn't know about pastebin
[22:48] <CopyWriter> googling it now
[22:48] <PhotoJim> np :)
[22:49] <jmarsden> you got the syntax of the command wrong...  net rpc join -W SCCSDA -Uadministrator   # is more likely to get you somewhere.
[22:49] <jmarsden> But I'm not sure if -Uadministrator is what you want here... should the -U be the machine account??  Let me check...
[22:50] <CopyWriter> i now get cannot join as a standalone machine
[22:51] <jmarsden> That's progress... one sec...
[22:51] <CopyWriter> :) yes!
[22:51] <jmarsden> net rpc join member -W SCCSDA -Uadministrator
[22:52] <CopyWriter> same thing, can't join as a standalone machine
[22:56] <jmarsden> Hmmm, I'm not finding an obvious answer... I'd suggest you look through the docs at http://us6.samba.org/samba/docs/ for stuff related to joining domains and see if that error is mentioned, or if you missed a step somewhere.
[22:57] <CopyWriter> will do, i know i'm close, there is always tomorrow
[22:57] <CopyWriter> thanks jmarsden
[22:58] <CopyWriter> :) now to get home before my wife kills me
[22:58] <jmarsden> Ok, no problem :)