DasEi_Maximus : dmesg reports lots of errors00:00
lstarnessdv00: most likely not00:00
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!00:00
sy1Is there anyway to lock the entire panel down00:00
sy1and nothing moves around after reboot00:01
_MaximusDasEi, you refere to line 252.835450 ?00:01
x3cionIs there a way to set environment variables for an app started with start-stop-daemon?00:01
sy1hi nomasteryyoda00:01
DasEi_Maximus : like 475 and following00:01
cochilionhave a problem with amarok playback, i have just installed and dont play mp300:02
cochilionwhat should i do?00:02
DasEi_Maximus : do you have a manual of your motherboard ?00:02
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_MaximusDasEi, I can only see errors for the "scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       3200BMV External 1.75 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4" which means it's the small usb hdd by western digital00:03
_MaximusDasEi, the motherboard has no more the manual00:04
DasEi_Maximus : I refered to the pastebin, 475 is  252.84972800:04
haf1ztangany1 can help me with installing new usplash?00:04
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork00:05
spOmy system is broken now, it won't automount my usb hard drives anymore, but it auto mounts my flash drive/key drive00:05
haf1ztangany1 can help me with installing new usplash?00:05
spOhaf, you mean a boot splash?   for grub00:06
_MaximusDasEi, but that goes for the western digital drive which is the one that I can't get working on this system00:06
br34lis there a list with any know freeze issue for ubuntu 9.04 ?00:06
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haf1ztangno..the boot screen00:06
DasEi_Maximus : I asked for the manual, in case that bios won't suport the drive to find the usb-jumper, they are often labeled on the board, a three pin jumper00:06
haf1ztangsplash screens00:06
haf1ztangspO: splash screens00:07
haf1ztangspO: i want to install this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Usplash+BlackChrome?content=6024900:07
GuidMorrowwhy cant I modify stuff in my virtual machine00:07
_MaximusDasEi, I know what you are saying, but I am not sure there is a jumper on this board since it's quite old00:07
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spOhaf, i had problems with splash and grub  , maybe you can install grub2,  are you getting somekind of errors?00:08
haf1ztangspO: i dont have any probs with grub. just to install splash screens. make it more nice00:08
evilGUIDoes anyone here have a 4850?00:08
DasEi_Maximus : can you run other usb-powered devices (mouse .f.e) ?00:08
evilGUII'm looking to buy a new video card for gaming and was wondering if I'll have any issues with Ubuntu and a ATI card, I mostly just need HD video playback working.00:09
GuidMorrowI wish I could install a cool splash screen, but how much space will it take up in the boot sector?00:10
AssociateXHello people00:11
x3cionIs there at least a useful channel when I have a problem with this damn, stupid start-stop-daemon crap?00:11
_MaximusDasEi, the mouse needs 5V ?00:12
AssociateXis it a big chore to hook up a digital ldc TV to my computer? Do I have to reconfig Xorg or anything?00:12
DasEiGuidMorrow: you can put it anywhere, but not the mbr, /boot for example00:12
DasEi_Maximus : a laser does, or a keyboard or ..00:12
arbir1i have a live cd running00:13
arbir1how can i get the xorg file ? i dont see much info in /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:13
DasEiarbir1: it's empty by deafult00:13
_MaximusDasEi, I only have an optical usb mouse which runs ok00:13
arbir1damn, close the window accidently :-(00:14
_MaximusDasEi, thanks for support00:14
_MaximusDasEi, I'll go and check the bios now00:14
DasEi_Maximus : which fs is on the small hd ?00:14
arbir1is back00:15
_MaximusI have not checked that out yet, but I think it's fat32 (to be accessible on most of the systems)00:15
arbir1so, how can i get my xorg file from a live system ?00:15
DasEiarbir1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , check again after00:16
_MaximusDasEi, thanks for support again00:16
arbir1DasEi: alright00:16
GuidMorrowwhen I "send shutdown signal" what does that do to my virtual machine00:16
evilGUIAre the overheating issues with the 4850 still there?00:17
DasEi_Maximus : another idea is to install ntfsprogs, but by default, both fat and ntfs are handled by jaunty00:17
evilGUIalso how well does a GTS 250 run in Ubuntu.00:17
arbir1DasEi: should i say yes to the kernel frame buffer dialog ?00:17
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DasEiGuidMorrow: it powers it down like shutdown00:17
DasEiarbir1: say no00:17
megraGuidMorrow, it depends on the VM you use, but normally, it should terminate the program.00:17
GuidMorrowholy crap look at the memory usage00:18
DasEiGuidMorrow: how much ram total ?00:18
arbir1DasEi: i only see this -- http://pastie.org/58533600:18
megrahey guys, any news about an update of the kernel about the 0day found yesterday ?00:19
GuidMorrowI had to set the VM to use 640M RAM00:19
GuidMorrowgotta figure if this motherboard can hold 4GB of RAM00:19
GuidMorrowIt used to run with PAE in Windows00:20
Sneaky-Jesusmegra: I think they're testing the patch for bugs, it'll be rolled out via Synaptic soon enough :)00:20
DasEiGuidMorrow: so 4 g installed ?00:20
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arbir1DasEi: i wonder how it runs a complete desktop with such less config in the xorg. am i looking at the wrong file ? /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:20
aprilharehello. i have an issue with graphics in gstreamer and vlc. i get strange colours. i looked on the internets and there was the suggestion that XV_HUE variable gets somehow mucked up and the temporary fix for this is "xvattr -a XV_HUE -v 1" however it's claimed its fixed... somewhere. does anyone know where that fix is? :)00:21
GuidMorrowI only have one 2GB stick, 256 MB share memory ... maybe I should go into BIOS and reset things00:21
GuidMorrowthe share memory size was originally set at 64 MB00:21
megraSneaky-Jesus, I must admin that's quite critical, I tried the exploit released by the grsecurity maintener, I was like frozen on chair when I saw '#' on my prompt :-)00:23
DasEiarbir1: no, all right, in farmer times there had been more modules, nowadays it's kernel implemented00:24
GuidMorrowI was experimenting with a large share memory buffer and I didn't find any difference  whenever I played The Sims 2 with it -- I figured my integrated nVIDIA graphics controller would use it as TurboCache memory00:24
arbir1DasEi: well it seems, if i configure my xorg from hand, it never starts up :-(00:24
DasEiGuidMorrow: no wonder, 2 g total, 256 graphic, give vm 256 then00:24
arbir1DasEi: alright.. thanks for the help.00:24
DasEiarbir: not really, you can specialize it00:25
DasEiGuidMorrow: unless it's a super onbaord,  128 M for graphics should do00:26
GuidMorrowThe Sims 2 will require up to 512M RAM with Vista ,but the OS itself will suffer without any extra memory00:26
DasEiarbir: for instance, if you install a propitary driver or want to customize your screen, xorg gets altered00:26
cjaeHI I installed the proprietary ati drivers in jaunty abd apparently the card is not supported anymore, I need to revert to the open source drivers (is that what was installed with the distro) and can I use them with tv out?00:27
cjaewas going to follow this http://www.leong.nl/2009/04/ubuntu-jaunty-upgrade-with-atiamd-graphics/00:27
ScottGHow can I get ls to print out full path names of files and directories?00:27
geirhaScottG: Don't think it can. You can use find for that though00:28
ScottGoh ok, thanks00:29
cjaeDo I still edit xorg to setup dual screens when not using the proprietary drivers?00:29
DasEiScottG: ls -R  , see man ls00:29
elitrix_hi guys, this is a very strange question for the ubuntu chan i know but you guys have always been helpful... im in the process of installing xp pro sp3 on my parents computer and my cd must be bad i had to skip 2 files, does anyone here have a xp pro sp3 install that i can get two files off of?00:29
GuidMorrowWindows XP sometimes takes up to 256 RAM and the game does take 256 RAM or more00:29
ScottGDasEi: That is recursive00:29
geirhacjae: The open source drivers should be xrandr-friendly, so you can use xrandr or the System -> Preferences -> Display gui00:29
DasEicjae : whih card ? ati is off the place with xorg 7.4 mostly00:30
DasEiScottG: so I diidn't get you right ; full paths ?00:30
cjaeDasEi, ati 960000:30
geirhacjae: However, you may need to edit xorg.conf to tell the driver to use enough memory for a desktop spread on two monitors00:31
DasEicjae : hard case, I'm not sure for ope sorce n dual, what works is you can downgrade xorg or even use hardy00:31
pixlboxhaving trouble with my wireless connection on my mac mini, tried the apple chat room but no ones replying00:32
ubottuUbuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details.00:32
inx-mdgpixlbox: is mac mini a PPC or an intel? just curious?00:32
inx-mdgpixlbox: what card of wifi card?00:33
inx-mdghi brian_00:33
macopixlbox: its running ubuntu....right?00:33
cjaegeirha, I am so mixed up with the new way of installing drivers (hardware drivers) and randr, I have a hand edited xorg.conf from a long time ago that should work to setup separate x screens I'll just have to switch it to whatever the open source driver is called under that section00:33
puffpixlbox: You tried #macosx?00:34
puffpixlbox: I'm afraid folks here won't be able to give you much help with mac issues.00:34
geirhacjae: I'm currently using the open source ati drivers and occationally extend the desktop to my TV. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f7987721000:34
inx-mdgpixlbox: what kind of wifi card is it?00:34
pixlboxpuff:  cool ill try that thanks00:34
GuidMorrowFor some reason the vm isn't running right at "full speed" -- the sound clips in some spots00:34
puffpixlbox: Even if it were a really slow day and people didn't mind discussing off-topic stuff, most folks here prolly don't knw much macosx.00:34
cjaegeirha, what card? and how do you get it back to open source driver?00:35
GuidMorrowand the CPU maxes out at random times00:35
pixlboxyeah, was a wild shot, thanks anyway00:35
DasEicjae : the open source driver least supports dualhed, also :00:35
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama00:35
cjaeDasEi, opensource support separate x screens?00:35
cjaeI do not want to extend00:36
geirhacjae: The important part is SubSection "Display" and the two following lines, which tell it to allocate enough memory to extend the 1280x1024 monitor to the left of the 1360x768 TV00:36
geirhacjae: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000]00:36
DasEi!xinerama | cjae00:36
ubottucjae: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead00:36
inx-mdgbrian_: get you gnom0... think working?00:37
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:37
cjaegeirha, it would be more like 1024x768 screen 0 and 800x600 screen 100:37
DasEicjae : sorry, seperate screens, generally yes, but the 9600 is the " biggest of the older ones", so not sure for that model00:37
geirhacjae: Oh, you want two separate desktops? Never bothered with that myself ...00:38
haf1zsome1 can tell me what is virtual box? virtual machine?00:39
krosonhi everyone00:39
lstarneshaf1z: it's a virtual machine00:39
krosonwhat are the necessary files to download from the ubuntu nvidia ppa?00:39
krosoni want to install the latest 190 drivers00:39
haf1zlstarnes: how it works?00:39
haf1zlstarnes: is it the same with wine?00:39
lstarneshaf1z: wine isn't a virtual machine.  It's an emulation of the windows API/ABI00:40
geirhahaf1z: Instead of a harddrive, it uses a file, which the operating system inside the virtual machine will think is a genuine hard drive. Same with audio card, video card etc.00:40
cjaeDasEi, basically I would I have a xorg that would resemble this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 and substitute whatever the opensource driver is for nvidia geirha00:40
cjaeshould work... no?00:40
haf1zlstarnes: what is the function vbox?00:41
lstarneshaf1z: virtualbox is a virtual machine00:41
lstarneshaf1z: vbox is another name for virtualbox00:42
GuidMorrowok this is stupid, why can't I access my usb flash drive from my vm?00:42
haf1zlstarnes: can it be same with dualboot?00:42
lstarneshaf1z: it's different from a dualboot00:42
ScuniziGuidMorrow: because you're using vbox-ose instead of the vbox version off their site?00:42
geirhahaf1z: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization00:43
lstarneshaf1z: a true dualboot doesn't use any emulation and runs directly on the actual hardware00:43
ScuniziGuidMorrow: are you using virtualbox?00:43
ericabcan someone tell me why "sudo shutdown -h now" has completley stopped working, BUT "sudi init 0" works properly in shuttung the computer down ??00:43
DasEicjae:this is a pointer in the direction ;; I'd try to get a working xorg in your desired setup from 8.04 and then alter it for jaunty00:44
haf1zdo you have any advice, since i am new.. is that vm is for advanced user or what?00:44
Flare183ericab: You turn your computer off like this: sudo shutdown -P now00:44
lstarneshaf1z: maybe more intermediate00:44
cjaeSection "Device"00:44
cjaeIdentifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]"Driver"nvidia" in this section what do I call the opensource ati driver geirha00:44
lstarneshaf1z: virtualbox is fairly easy to use00:44
ericabFlare183, i will try that, but "sudo shutdown -h now" used to work correctly, do you know what could have changed it ?00:45
DasEiGuidMorrow: with vm set off, enable usb in vbox, then devices > usb00:45
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:45
ameedHello , I have an Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Latitude D830 - the wifi only works when i disable the driver and enable it again but when i reboot the machine same issue appears and i must disable and enable to get it working again - any ideas?00:45
DasEiGuidMorrow: also you need the non-free one, ose = no usb00:45
Flare183ericab: No, I don't. But I do know that sudo shutdown -P now works.00:45
ericabill try it now, thnks00:46
evilGUIAnyone in here use a ATI radeon 4850 or 4870?00:46
haf1zlstarnes: 1 more thing, whats is the benefit of using vm?00:46
cjaeDasEi, I can make the separate screens work if the driver (open) supports it, or would I just be better off to use a older proprietary driver and how would I do that?00:46
docgnomegnome is really slow for me. rather some things are. like typing takes a long time00:47
lstarneshaf1z: things that run in a vm don't have full hardware access and don't need to be installed on a hard disk partition00:47
docgnomeas does scrolling00:47
Flare183docgnome: Try using Xubuntu then.00:47
cjaeDasEi, not switching to 8.04 have lvm setup already can I use a older ati driver in jaunty at all?00:47
IdleOnewhat is the command to get the path of a package?00:47
docgnomei have compiz running. when i turn it off everything is ok, but the windows repaint very slowly00:47
lstarneshaf1z: plus some virtual machines, like qemu, support other architectures, like mips or sparc00:47
chalcednywhat's the bottom bar with icons on it called?00:47
docgnomeFlare183: yeah, didn't help00:47
docgnomeFlare183: same behavior00:47
haf1zlstarnes: so, i think its better to use dualboot right?00:47
geirhahaf1z: Install Ubuntu in a VM, and you can experiment with everything you want, without affecting your main system00:47
lstarneshaf1z: it depends on what you need to do00:47
ameedHello , I have an Ubuntu 9.04 on my Dell Latitude D830 - the wifi only works when i disable the driver and enable it again but when i reboot the machine same issue appears and i must disable and enable to get it working again - any ideas?00:47
frunnshaf1z: like e-ID, doesn't work too well in linux, but you can just use a vm instead of dual booting. :P00:48
Flare183docgnome: Turn off the remote desktop, and the tracker/file indexer00:48
GuidMorrowwhy didn't you tell me "VirtualBox OSE" was the wrong version00:48
DasEicjae: either you get the propi thing from 8.04 to get the config or must now, as I become tired ask again or google your 9600 jaunty dualhead;  you can for sure downgrade xorg and have aticontrolcenter with propitary driver00:48
Sigmahi friends00:49
Sigmaany ubuntu specialists around00:49
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docgnomeFlare183: where is the indexing?00:49
haf1zso guys, let say im running linux on windows. i did write file and save in linux. then i reboot. does the file i save remains?00:49
CaptainCrookany alternative to unrar-free packages to unrar .rar archives?00:49
DasEi!who | GuidMorrow00:49
ubottuGuidMorrow: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:49
inx-mdgAnyone here run windows XP Pro in virtualbox?  How much ram?00:49
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Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: 7-zip?00:49
chalcednyall my things that i have multiples of - firefox windows, xhchat, gnome terminals .. are making separate icons on the desktop in my taskbar (bottom bar, whichever it's called) is there a way to make them one icon that opens a list? in ubuntu 9.0400:49
Guest73835how do i make ubuntu use the default video drivers for my card i think i somehow fucked it up cuz my screen is all distorded when i try to log in00:49
lstarneshaf1z: it should if you installed ubuntu on a filesystem image or hard disk00:49
Guest73835but with the live disk its fine00:49
DasEiinx-mdg: least 256, better 512, best..00:49
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ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:50
CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  heard about it alot it works great?00:50
Q_Continuuminx-mdg: XP wants 256MB of RAM, I'd say 512MB-1024MB, if you have it to spare.  Depends on what you're going to use the VM for.00:50
geirhahaf1z: yes00:50
inx-mdgDasEi: I have 1 gig00:50
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: on Windows, I've used it a *ton*00:50
DasEiinx-mdg: for the vm or in general ?00:50
inx-mdgDasEi: any tips for running WIN XP Pro?00:50
CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  and on ubuntu?00:50
IdleOnewhy would IDJC ( Internet Disc Jockey Console ) need jack ( a cd ripping utility )?00:50
docgnomefunny thing is all the compiz functions like the cube work fine00:50
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: I'm not sure it's available, checking now....00:50
DasEiinx-mdg: nothing special about it00:50
inx-mdgDasEi: I have 1 gig of ram in my machine00:51
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: p7zip is the command-line Linux port of 7zip, http://sourceforge.net/projects/p7zip/00:51
DasEiinx-mdg: so decide what else you need and use least 25600:51
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CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  it does unrar? does it use unrar-free package or it use it's own?00:51
Mute_BonesUm, I've been having a problem with Samba and Windows 7. can anyone help?00:52
inx-mdgDasEi: I really only need to run MS Word 200300:52
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: To be honest, I'm not sure.  I think I ended up installing unrar-free and just using that.00:52
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DasEiinx-mdg: oo ? abiword ?00:52
cjaeso if I follow this to uninstall the proprietary ati driver http://www.leong.nl/2009/04/ubuntu-jaunty-upgrade-with-atiamd-graphics/ how do I load the opensource driver?00:52
Q_Continuuminx-mdg: I would give Windows XP 384MB of RAM then.  Should be enough for Windows XP + Office 2003.00:52
DasEicjae: decribed in same post00:53
inx-mdgDasEi: we only use Word 2003 at work- I "mind storm" techniques for being productive in MS Word 200300:53
CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  ok i'm getting a "Failed" on every files any idea what it could be?00:53
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.00:53
inx-mdgDasEi: otherwise ooWriter is perfect for my needs00:53
geirhacjae: It should load it automatically00:53
r3d|RIOT_Flare183 where can i see what is being run to shutdown the computer ?00:54
cjaegeirha, so there is no vesa crap or anything00:54
DasEiinx-mdg: will work with 256, depending if you're running presentations/zips and so on, more ram saves time, but function will be there anyway00:54
Flare183r3d|RIOT_: I have no idea.....00:54
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: Not a clue, I haven't ran across a *.rar in awhile that I downloaded on this system.00:54
kaddithe intel regression is only in 9.04,no?00:54
cjaeDasEi, sorry I missed which post that was00:54
edbianr3d|RIOT_: Go to rc6.d  All of those scripts are run at shutdown00:54
inx-mdgDasEi: just Word template and macro kind of stuff, maybe a simple spreadsheet00:55
r3d|RIOT_edbian ok thanks00:55
edbianr3d|RIOT_: That is, all the ones that start with a "K"00:55
DasEicjae: the one you gave twice ore more00:55
Mute_BonesCan anyone help me?00:55
sysRPNcould someone please tell me how to fix this? checking for MONO_CAIRO... configure: error: Package requirements (mono-cairo >= 1.2) were not met ... full log **here** -> http://pastebin.com/m46c63e7700:55
ubottuFor information on how to use LightScribe on Ubuntu please see the Wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe00:55
CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  yeah not much options under ubuntu for .rar file...00:56
DasEicjae: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253867/00:56
r3d|RIOT_edbian, wait i thought rc0 was shutdown ?00:56
DasEi!ask | Mute_Bones00:56
ubottuMute_Bones: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:56
geirhacjae: As long as your xorg.conf doesn't still have the line telling it to use fglrx, it should detect the right open source driver for your card00:56
gipsy_i have a question i am new to ubuntu ... and i am trying to install VPN so i can connect to work is that possible ?00:56
edbianr3d|RIOT_: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html00:56
cjaegeirha, I see thanks00:56
edbianr3d|RIOT_: 0 is for system halt.  6 is for reboot00:56
arquebusI have Orca installed which both reads audible text and magnifys the screen, but I dont have an icon for it. How do I access the icon, because when I start in in console it just starts reading the console00:56
Mute_BonesUm, I've been having a problem with Samba and Windows 7. can anyone help?00:57
radioman-ltwhats with wsamba?00:57
r3d|RIOT_edbian would you mind a pm ?00:57
DasEigeirha: cjae: have to remove fglrx from system (kernel-implemented else)00:57
th0rsysRPN: the place to start is to look for something like libmono-dev or libcairo-dev00:57
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Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: If you install unrar or unrar-free apparently the normal 'Archive Manager' can handle them.00:57
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: As per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/File%20Roller00:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nero00:57
Mute_BonesCrap, it cut off the rest. (continued) WHen I attempt to log into my Win7 share, it constantly asks for username and password, even though I put them in right00:58
DasEi!burn | GuidMorrow00:58
ubottuGuidMorrow: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto00:58
GuidMorrowwth?! http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Nero_Linux00:58
inx-mdgarquebus: you can make an icon by right clicking your desktop00:58
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/253868/ can I get some help with this please. IDJC is looking for jack libs but I assume that ubuntu doesnt have them in the expected path.00:58
sysRPNth0r: i think it needs to link to Mono-Cario.dll ... which is in this path /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Mono.Cairo.dll00:58
gipsy_anyone ???00:58
DasEi GuidMorrow : nero linux free for trial, can use existing license from win if have, ubuntu k3b does well00:58
arquebusinx-mdg- thanks, I'll check that out00:58
inx-mdgarquebus: the file path might be something like /usr/bin/orca00:59
CaptainCrookQ_Continuum,  in fact it display Failed... but everything works... kind of strange...00:59
arquebusinx-mdg: ok, thanks, that helps00:59
DugenNashHello, I am having issues with both Firefox and Opera displaying web pages with bad/distorted layouts, I can point you to a screenshot if anyone can help me with this00:59
radioman-ltMute_Bones, check box00:59
inx-mdgarquebus: your welcome :)00:59
DasEigipsy:why vpn ? ssh ?00:59
cjaeDasEi, geirha  ok thanks just wanted to get the low down on things before as the box in question is in another room ...will give it a shot01:00
nicklas_how do you get conky to get under windows? ubuntu gnome with desktop effects on01:00
geirha!imagebin | DugenNash01:00
ubottuDugenNash: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.01:00
Mute_Bonesradioman-lt I tried to set it to remember my password. No dice, it keeps asking and not letting me on01:00
DasEicjae: sorry for me being too up today for a walkthrough01:00
DugenNashhi ubottu here is where I saved the screenie: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ir2dnwzheme/lastfm.png01:00
radioman-ltwron paas, are you in domain?01:00
DugenNashsome pages look ok, but others look pretty bad like you can see on the screenshot of lastfm01:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dvd-author01:01
DasEigipsy:what do you want with that connection ?01:01
jduDugenNash, looks like you need to change your font settings01:02
GuidMorrowis there anything about movie editors, especially those the same caliber as Windows Movie Maker?01:02
IdleOneGuidMorrow, gnomebaker or k3b work well01:02
cjaeDasEi, geirha if all else fails I think I have a spare nvidia agp around ;P np thanks anyway I think I ll get it01:02
DugenNashhi jdu  have tried that, but it doesn't really seem to help at all01:02
DasEinvidia XD01:02
jduDugenNash, firefox will respect a minimum font.  It may even follow settings you have for ubuntu, I don't know01:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about movie01:02
DasEi!brain | GuidMorrow01:03
ubottuGuidMorrow: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:03
gipsy_i just want to be able to connect01:03
gipsy_to work so i can work from home01:03
cjaeGuidMorrow, kino01:03
DasEi!who | gipsy01:03
ubottugipsy: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)01:03
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/253868/ can I get some help with this please. IDJC is looking for jack libs but I assume that ubuntu doesnt have them in the expected path. How do I tell the configure script where to look for the libs and what is the correct path to the libs?01:03
gipsy_i can do it from vista01:03
gipsy_but im not sure how01:03
DasEi!vlc > GuidMorrow01:03
gipsy_from linux01:03
ubottuGuidMorrow, please see my private message01:03
Q_ContinuumCaptainCrook: Perhaps it needs a restart to stop throwing errors?  (Sometimes adding plugins/support for features is half-baked until the app in question, or wherever it gets its list, gets reloaded)01:03
pixlboxany way of getting itunes running in wine ?01:03
DasEigipsy : you want to connect from office to home ?01:04
jduDugenNash, well that's all I can think of, that would be causing it.  To test if it is a firefox setting (ignoring Opera for the mement)  try    mv .mozilla .mozilla.bak      after closing firefox and then restart it.  You will have your default settings.  Then to get them back.  do    mv .mozilla.bak .mozilla01:04
arquebusanyone know a good magnifying glass app for ubuntu to use with netbooks?01:04
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:05
Mute_BonesOnce again, I have a problem: I attempt to log into my Win7 share, it constantly asks for username and password, even though I put them in right and set it too remember. It never even let's me access the folder01:05
nsahoohi .. I accidentally marked some files under svn control to delete on next commit, how do I undo that?01:05
gipsy_!tab ubottu| sorry first time in IRC too01:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tab ubottu01:05
DugenNashthanks jdu I'll give that a try01:05
arquebusnsahoo-  #ubuntu-devel01:06
DasEi!tab |gipsy_01:06
ubottugipsy_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:06
DasEigipsy : you want to connect from office to home ?01:06
gipsy_DasEi : from home01:06
GuidMorrowWTH! :"Error: Conflicts with the installed package 'virtualbox-ose'"01:07
DasEigipsy_:  the office is running which os ?01:07
nsahooarquebus: thanks01:07
jduarquebus, kmag works alright.  not specifically designed for a netbook though.  There was a really nice lightweight one that used to be in damn small linux, but I don't know its name.01:07
DasEiGuidMorrow: remove-purge ose first01:07
herenbdyis karmic koala stable enough to use for day-to-day stuff and programming?01:07
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: You can only have one edition of VirtualBox installed at a time, either OSE or the commercial closed-source version.01:07
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit01:07
IdleOneherenbdy, NO01:07
DasEiGuidMorrow: sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox*01:07
herenbdyIdleOne: :(01:07
IdleOneherenbdy, #ubuntu+1 for more info01:07
jduDugenNash, that of course may do nothing, but it is worth a try to test the situation.01:08
Mute_BonesI attempt to log into my Win7 share, it constantly asks for username and password, even though I put them in right and set it too remember. It never even let's me mount the folder01:08
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/253868/ can I get some help with this please. IDJC is looking for jack libs but I assume that ubuntu doesnt have them in the expected path. How do I tell the configure script where to look for the libs and what is the correct path to the libs?01:08
gipsy_DasEi:  office is running XP01:08
e370_can ok this is dumb but how do u use remote desktop viewer01:08
GuidMorrowcrap, what will this do to my virtual disk image?!01:09
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: I hit the same thing, all I did was uninstall the OSE and install the closed source one01:09
arquebusjdu- thanks, I found kmag, but that just puts a permanent window on the screen, I was looking for a moveable magnification window01:09
Q_ContinuumI didn't do a purge or anything01:09
Q_Continuumand it kept (and used) the same config file(s)01:09
jdue370_, Machine, Connect, then enter ip of computer you want to connect to.01:09
jdue370_, assuming other computer allows it.01:10
GuidMorrowbut what about the vdi01:10
e370_yea he has the appropriate boxes tick but its just showin a black screen01:10
laymanstermshello, does anyone know a way to get the list of packages from a default installation of a Jaunty install? I've been upgrading my desktop since Feisty and I think I've built up some cruft. I want to figure out the difference between a default install and `dpkg --get-selections`.01:10
jdue370_, interesting.  Did you click around?  Sometimes it may be asleep.01:11
e370_hes talkin to me atm01:11
Mute_BonesCan any one help me with this? >I attempt to log into my Win7 share, it constantly asks for username and password, even though I put them in right and set it too remember. It never even let's me mount the folder01:12
DugenNashjdu I tried what you suggested, it looks like the format is still messed up, you can see in this screen of google: http://imagebin.org/5978101:12
DasEigipsy_: openssh is there for windows, too, you have to install it on the machine and then also find a way to cooperate the firewall / router, host-based authentification comes to mind01:12
iofafohey guys, I'm having a next to impossible time installing nfs-common via `apt-get install nfs-common` ( Bubuntu 8.04 ) ... I'm getting the followeing error: " invoke-rc.d: initscript nfs-common, action "start" failed." ... does anyone have a clue what might be wrong here?01:12
GuidMorrownow I can't find it, where's the program?!01:13
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: VDI?  Should be fine.  Those are under .VirtualBox01:13
Q_ContinuumThe commercial version doesn't make a shortcut.01:14
jduDugenNash, weird.  Have you messed with the Zoom settings too?01:14
DugenNashIm wondering if my display settings might be messed up01:14
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: I created a shortcut on the top bar, command is... VirtualBox01:14
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: Also, #vbox - join it.  That's the channel for Virtual Box :-D01:14
edbianWhat package is "shutdown" in ??01:15
DugenNashwhen i go to display under preferences i get this message that says: It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?01:15
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Mute_BonesCan any one help me with this? >I attempt to log into my Win7 share, it constantly asks for username and password, even though I put them in right and set it too remember. It never even let's me mount the folder01:16
DasEigipsy_:  http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/01:16
Berzerkerwho wanted me01:16
iofafohey guys, I'm having a next to impossible time installing nfs-common via `apt-get install nfs-common` ( Bubuntu 8.04 ) ... I'm getting the followeing error: " invoke-rc.d: initscript nfs-common, action "start" failed." ... does anyone have a clue what might be wrong here?01:16
Berzerkeriofafo, sudo?01:16
DasEiMute_Bones: tried as superuser ? (mount)  folder accesible by win (share?) ??01:17
iofafoI'm root01:17
gipsy_DasEi: ok i will do some more research on what you just told me and i will try it ... i think ssh is installed.01:17
iofafoBerzerker: what do you think ?01:17
Mute_BonesDasEI: How exactly do I do that? Something like "sudo smbclient -L // -U bit "?01:17
BerzerkerI have no idea, never tried to install nfs-common01:18
DasEigipsy_: if you think it is, you can try connect if you got usernam, ip, password01:18
ChousukeMute_Bones: I think you shouldn't use sudo with smbclient.01:18
arquebusiofafo: your console says that the latest version of nfs-common is already installed01:18
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Mute_BonesChousuke: Oops, didn't mean to add that in there. I don't.01:18
inx-mdgarquebus: any luck with the icon?01:19
iofafoarquebus: it won't start01:19
Mute_BonesI use "smbclient -L // -U bit" which, after entering my password for Win7, responded with "session setup failed: SUCCESS - 0"01:19
DasEiMute_Bones: to mount it on tje linux-sys, the mountpoint has to belong to the standard user ; on the win side, the folder has to be allowed to be shared01:19
inx-mdgarquebus: you need to verify the patch to orca - type "locate orca" and see what it shows for the path01:20
arquebusinx-mdg: no, when I search in /usr/bin with ls I cant access all the output01:20
gipsy_DasEi: should i try using "TSC" or is there another application i could use ?01:20
arquebusinx-mdg: thx, I'll try that01:20
iofafoarquebus: any clue?01:20
Mute_BonesDasEi: Okay, but what's the commands?01:20
DasEigipsy_: have you got username, ip, password of the office machine ?01:20
arquebusiofafo: I already told you it says its already installed01:20
gipsy_DasEi: sorry ... yes01:20
DasEigipsy_: sudo apt-get install ssh01:21
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/253868/ can I get some help with this please. IDJC is looking for jack libs but I assume that ubuntu doesnt have them in the expected path. How do I tell the configure script where to look for the libs and what is the correct path to the libs?01:21
inx-mdgarquebus: actually, if orca has a menu entry, you can just drag the menu icon to your desktop01:21
iofafoarquebus: now when I look in daemon.log I see  rpc.statd[4001]: unable to register (statd, 1, udp). .... any clue why that might be ?01:21
zilla1i have a copy of my old .mozilla-thunderbird directory from an older install, and i want (/need) to get access to all of that mail. What do I need to do to access it?01:22
DasEigipsy_: ssh   user@ip-adress   where user and ip-address ...01:22
arquebusinx-mdg: no it doesnt have a menu entry, its only listed in add and remove programs01:22
inx-mdgarquebus: did you try "locate" or you could use "whereis orca"01:22
DasEigipsy_: if there is an ssh running, you'll be asked to connect and then prompted for passowrd01:23
DasEigipsy_: mind pm me ?01:23
th0rarquebus: look in /usr/share/applications for a file called orca.desktop01:23
arquebusinx-mdg: strangly its not working, I came up with wrong results with both first letter uppercase and lower case01:23
gipsy_DasEi: not at alll ... i will ... sorry i am learning ...  "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd"01:23
arquebusth0r: big thanks01:24
GuidMorrowwell those guys are certainly no help, they're thinking WIndoze01:24
Mute_BonesDasEi: Never mind, it mounted properly. Thank you!01:24
inx-mdgarquebus: its gnome-orca01:24
laymanstermsIdleOne, have you installed jack? Maybe you don't need to tell the script anything if you get the right dependencies installed beforehand.01:24
th0rarquebus: if it is there, log out and back in and orca should be in the menu. If it is there...use less /usr/share/applications/orca.desktop' to see what Categories is set to...that will tell you where it is in the menus01:24
arquebusth0r- wow, thanks01:25
th0rpellicon: /join #ubuntu-cn01:26
Lord_Pallhiyo.. Got a dumb question. I setup all of these repos in the package manager and added the key.. Now how do I actually install it?>  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/xserver-no-backfill01:27
arquebusth0r- its says icon-orca, what does that mean?01:28
Lord_Pall(This is to fix the 2 second delay in 9.04 when maximizing windows. It's something to do with the ati 3850 agp)01:28
arquebuswhoops I mean icon=orca01:28
laymanstermsLord_Pall, is the package xserver-no-backfill?01:28
BerzerkerLord_Pall, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install <package>01:28
Lord_PallLayman - I would think so, but I can't find it01:28
th0rarquebus: in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps you should find an icon named orca.png or orca.xpm01:28
arquebusth0r: ah, ok01:29
orochihello...for anyone using tovid, any options in particular that you use to clean up the video quality when it's re-encoded? ffmpeg is the only encoding method that doesn't occasionally result in problem disks but it looks blocky01:29
nibsa1242I need a guide about installing ubuntu to and booting from a USB stick. My harddisk is dead and all I have is a 4GB pen drive.01:29
th0rarquebus: if you are using an english language desktop there are only about five lines in that file that are important01:29
inx-livearquebus: any luck finding gnome-orca?01:30
Lord_Pallit cant find that package. It's definitely looking at the http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty release.gpg repos01:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about usb-creator01:30
zilla1well, i got the answer -- just place it in the $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird01:31
arquebusinx-live: I found orka-desktop, but not gnome-orka, but orka-desktop seems to have all the information I need01:31
Berzerkerzilla1, answer to what?01:31
laymanstermsLord_Pall, if you open Synaptic Package Manager, you should be able to select the PPA to see what packages are available from it.01:31
GuidMorrownibsa1242: Is your hard disk "dead", as in mechanical failure?01:31
BerzerkerGuidMorrow, he left lol.01:32
GuidMorrowwth he logged01:32
zilla1Berzerker my question, hot to put an old .mozilla-thunderbird directory on anew install and get it working. not a big surprise granted, but i figured it out01:32
Berzerkerzilla1, good to know.01:32
Lord_Palllayman - where does that show up? Like what would I look for to search that ppa?01:32
laymanstermsLord_Pall, for example, with the "Origin" button selected, I can click ppa.launchpad.net/main to see all the PPAs that I've added and the packages that are available from them.01:33
kbpis there a way to delete a file in terminal without typing its name? because the name is like this: Cánh đồng tuyết and I can't type it up.01:33
Lord_Pallgot it. Looking now01:33
edbiankbp: You can remove everything in the directory it's in "sudo rm /path/to/file/*"01:34
Lord_Pallaha! found it. It was an alternate version availab.e01:34
edbiankbp: You can also use tab to autocomplete01:34
jribkbp: use tab completion or use you can delete using the inode01:34
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kbpedbian: I just want to remove 1 file only01:34
Berzerkerkbp, just type rm -rf C<tab>01:34
edbiankbp: Put that file in a folder by itself01:34
edbiankbp: Use tab completion01:34
Lord_PallHuge thanks for the help01:35
laymanstermsLord_Pall, np.01:35
kbpjrib, edbian: tab completion doesn't work because there are many files start with C. Nautilus doesnt work and gives me error with filename and stuff01:35
Lord_Pallreboot time01:35
GuidMorrowwhy did "virtualbox-3.0" appear in the computer janitor? something's wrong with the package01:35
jribkbp: then delete it using the inode.  Do you know how to do that?01:35
edbiankbp: I think you have a corrupted file01:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about janitor01:36
edbiankbp: You might went to run e2fsck from a live CD on your FS01:36
laymanstermskbp, rm C*g01:36
kbpjrib: I'm googling :)01:36
laymanstermsthe file ends in g so you can use that to your advantage.01:36
Berzerkerkbp, browser to it in the  browser, make a new folder, then put it, then try that again (so it's only file in the folder)01:36
laymanstermsoops, I mean t01:36
jribkbp: well -i passed to ls will give you the inode and you can use find to search by inode and tell it to -delete01:36
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kbplaymansterms: it solved it :)01:37
kbpthank you all for your help just rm C*g01:37
Q_ContinuumGuidMorrow: I just have a shortcut set to run 'VirtualBox' and that works.01:37
arquebusth0r, inx-live01:38
kbpBerzerker: browser (nautilus) cannot operate on that file name and gives error whenever I try to touch it :)01:38
arquebusthanks anyway, I'll try later01:38
Berzerkerkbp, you can't even move it?01:38
laymanstermsDoes anyone know how to get the list of packages from a default install of Jaunty? I've still had no bites on that.01:39
Berzerkerkbp, strange. well. glad you got it solved.01:39
Ben64does 10.04 have a name yet01:39
edbianlaymansterms: What do you want to use such a list for?01:39
inx-livelaymansterms: dpkg -l01:39
GuidMorrowwth! ubuntu just barfed my package01:40
laymanstermsedbian, I've been upgrading since feisty, and I've installed a bunch of packages apps so I want to know the difference between what's in a default install and what's currently on my machine.01:40
kbpBerzerker: thank you  :) (drag & drop gives error - the file is on server I'm just sftp to it using both nautilus and terminal. :) )01:40
GuidMorrowmaybe if I install it and then reboot it'll become permanent01:40
taomasteranyone tested the newest ubuntu  beta01:41
laymanstermsinx-live, won't that just give me what I have currently?01:41
lstarnestaomaster: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 9.1001:41
edbianlaymansterms: dpkg -l will list everything on the system right now.01:41
onthecanhow do you get a backup file of Thunderbird's emails and passwords?01:41
Berzerkeronthecan, ~/.mozilla-thunderbird01:42
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laymanstermsedbian, right, so that's too much info I think. I want to use dpkg --get-selections to get what I have installed and compare it to just the bare minimum list for the Jaunty desktop install.01:42
laymanstermsand short of firing up a VM with a fresh Jaunty install, I can't think of a way to get the list I need to diff against.01:43
onthecanhow do I restore it from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird01:44
inx-liveonthecan: sorry I missed your question - you have a thunderbird problem...01:44
edbianlaymansterms: I'm trying to find such a list on the internet but I'm not finding anything01:44
Guest73076Hi, I'm trying to get my Logitech quickcam chat to work in skype and in kopete.  camera screen looks messed up when attempting to test it in skype.  in kopete, the test button simply causes the program to quit.  I tried using gstreamer-properties, set it for videoforlinux2, camera, and when i hit test, i get the following error message: Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'.01:45
Guest73076any help here?01:45
onthecanhow do you get a backup file of Thunderbird's emails and passwords?01:45
inx-liveonthecan: you mean make a backup?01:45
Ben64cp  -R .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla-thunderbird.backup01:45
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laymanstermsedbian, yeah, I had no luck with Google either. That's why I came here. I thought I might be able to find something related to the desktop seed, but it just list a collection of meta-packages.01:45
JaredKFanI was known as guest73076, just changed the nickname.01:45
onthecanBen64: how do I restore it?01:46
Ben64depends on what happened to the original01:46
onthecanthere is no original01:46
Ben64but lets say .mozilla-thunderbird got deleted01:46
JaredKFanHi, I'm trying to get my Logitech quickcam chat to work in skype and in kopete.  camera screen looks messed up when attempting to test it in skype.  in kopete, the test button simply causes the program to quit.  I tried using gstreamer-properties, set it for videoforlinux2, camera, and when i hit test, i get the following error message: Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'. anyone able t01:46
JaredKFano help?01:46
Ben64mv .mozilla-thunderbird.backup .mozilla-thunderbird01:47
inx-livedoes thunderbird actually make a backup of that stuff on its own?01:47
Ben64not that i know of01:47
detrix42Hello folks.  have an issue with Nvidia driver.  I get the following error:  API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.16, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 173.14.20.  How do I remove the 14.20 driver?01:47
Ben64i always make a backup when updating to a new version, but have never needed it01:48
inx-liveBen64: do you see in the "trash"01:48
inx-liveBen64: oh, you have a backup!  that's good!01:48
GuidMorrowok, all fixed, item is showing in the system tools menu, but computer janitor is still reporting a package problem01:48
inx-liveBen64: just copy the file you saved into your home directory01:48
Ben64i'm not the one with a problem :)01:49
livingdaylightwhat do i have to install to make two Ubuntu boxes speak to each other on a shared network?01:49
mykolalivingdaylight: with what?01:49
Ben64livingdaylight: speak to.. in which way?01:49
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inx-liveBen64: oh .... sorry01:49
livingdaylightshare files01:49
onthecanBen64: how do you back it up then?01:49
mykolalivingdaylight: samba will do that01:49
Ben64cp  -R .mozilla-thunderbird .mozilla-thunderbird.backup01:49
livingdaylightmykola: ssh?01:49
mykolalivingdaylight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba01:50
livingdaylightmykola: isn't ssh easier?01:50
mykolalivingdaylight: ssh would be able to err.. talk. and i suppose you could use scp for one time things. having samba would be easier tho01:50
mykolalivingdaylight: ssh is for logging in to the other computer and pulling files off one at a time (via scp)01:50
Ben64yeah scp is a pain trying to do a lot of files01:50
mykolayou would have to tar them all together into one big mess to do it all at once01:50
onthecanok and then to restore it, its mv .mozilla-thunderbird.backup .mozilla-thunderbird?01:51
inx-liveI just used nautilus to copy .mozilla-thunderbird to a USB, then copied it into home directory on a new install - worked like a charm!01:51
Ben64onthecan: yeah01:51
* flx__ has had success with SCP and multiple file transfers oO;01:51
flx__Elmosapien: hio01:51
Ben64flx__: still not as easy as samba01:51
Elmosapienyay i get greeted nicely01:51
edbian!hi | Elmosapien01:51
ubottuElmosapien: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:51
mykolaElmosapien: ahem... RTFM NOOB!01:51
mykolaElmosapien: i kid :D what's yer question?01:52
Elmosapiennothin im just checking in]\\01:52
agent_ji would like to set up a GNU MailMan mailing list, but i don't want to have to host it myself. alternatives please?01:52
mykolaElmosapien: nifty ^_^01:53
Elmosapieni was here yesterday01:53
mykolaElmosapien: well... in that case you've got some real mental issues01:53
JaredKFananyone able to answer my question?01:53
mykolaElmosapien: go to a real help channel... like 4chan, or the FreeBSD channel01:53
detrix42Hello folks.  have an issue with Nvidia driver.  I get the following error:  API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.16, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 173.14.20.  How do I remove the 14.20 driver?01:53
chuckfsshfs is a great program to run and works well for my needs01:53
hattoricacahttp://pastebin.ca/1531013 what is this output i get from bash when i enter '@' and hit tab?01:53
mykolaJaredKFan: don't ask to ask. just ask :D01:53
Elmosapienwatch your mouth buddy01:54
Ben64detrix42: but 20 > 1601:54
edbianmykola: He did.  Earlier01:54
Elmosapienim only 1101:54
mykolaaah... logitech... right01:54
detrix42Ben64: yes, but I believe 20 is for different card01:54
Ben64JaredKFan: you able to watch the video in mplayer?01:54
Ben64detrix42: 20 should just be a version01:54
edbianElmosapien: And you use ubuntu?01:54
mykolaElmosapien: i second edbian. well done :D01:55
detrix42Ben64: there is a missmatch between the driver and the module...01:55
inx-liveElmosapien: /me applauds you01:55
Ben64but you should be able to install it from synaptic01:55
mykolaElmosapien: now, leave and come back when you're a hardcore linux from scratch user who edits their files in the worlds only standard text editor01:55
mykolaElmosapien: Ed01:55
detrix42Ben64: then how do I update the module to 2001:56
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Ben64how did you install the driver in the first place?01:56
Elmosapienmykola whats your age01:56
JaredKFanBen64:  I't's not video help i need, it's help getting my webcam to work.01:56
Elmosapienhow old are you mykola01:56
Ben64JaredKFan: what does your webcam output?01:56
mykolaElmosapien: None o' yer business ;^)01:57
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Hi...¯¯))) ~~~01:57
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯I need help¯¯))) ~~~01:57
detrix42Ben64: I downloaded it from the nvidia web site. it did not update the modual01:57
[[[Campanita_22] (¯`·.·>Elmosapien<·.·`¯) ()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Hi..¯¯))) ~~~01:57
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: good lord... STOP01:57
JaredKFanit displays fine in ekiga, but in kopete when i try to test it, i get a messed up window full of shiny colors.01:57
Elmosapienhi campanita01:57
[[[Campanita_22] (¯`·.·>mykola<·.·`¯) ()¯¯¯¯)¯¯i am woman¯¯))) ~~~01:57
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯^^¯¯))) ~~~01:58
Ben64detrix42: don't install drivers from nvidia.com01:58
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Hi how are you?¯¯))) ~~~01:58
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: good for you.... but god, that's an annoying macro01:58
Ben64use synaptic unless you're super sure at what you're doing01:58
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Great !¯¯))) ~~~01:58
br34lanyways, smoking kills you01:58
detrix42Ben64: I do believe I read that somewhere..lol01:58
mykoladoh... i just realized i'm feedin a troll >.<01:58
[[[Campanita_22] (¯`·.·>Elmosapien<·.·`¯) ()¯¯¯¯)¯¯where do you from?¯¯))) ~~~01:58
JaredKFanben64:  it displays fine in ekiga, but in kopete when i try to test it, i get a messed up window full of shiny colors.01:58
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Wow!..¯¯))) ~~~01:58
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯I Chilean¯¯))) ~~~01:58
lstarnes[[[Campanita_22]: please disable that formatting.  it's very annoying01:59
Elmosapienannoying macro though01:59
detrix42Ben64: so how do I uninstall the driver from nvidia website?01:59
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯Because?¯¯))) ~~~01:59
Ben64[[[Campanita_22]: why do you speak inside of crude ascii "members"01:59
mykolaok... [[[Campanita_22] and Elmosapien... can we stay on topic01:59
[[[Campanita_22]()¯¯¯¯)¯¯I no cant write this?¯¯))) ~~~01:59
ryanakca[[[Campanita_22]: Please don't ()----)--- speak like htis ---))) ```01:59
Elmosapienim on topic but01:59
Ben64detrix42: install a version on top01:59
ryanakca[[[Campanita_22]: Switch IRC clients then, or disable it.01:59
GuidMorrowone thing I hate about this program: NAG SCREEN!01:59
lstarnes[[[Campanita_22]: you must use plain text01:59
Ben64detrix42: like from synaptic01:59
detrix42Ben64: brb02:00
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: much better ^_^02:00
GuidMorroweach time I start virtualbox, they want me to register their program02:00
[[[Campanita_22]Sorry ..02:00
mykolaGuidMorrow: what? virtualbox is free02:00
JaredKFanben64: i have to leave now. email me at Jared.Buck@gmail.com.02:00
mykolaGuidMorrow: i use it at work all the time... never nags me02:00
[[[Campanita_22]Elmsapien how years old?02:00
Ben64JaredKFan: : /02:01
Elmosapienguidmorrow just cancel registration or click remind me later02:01
[[[Campanita_22]VirtualBox I like this virtual machin.02:01
* GuidMorrow . o O please hold02:01
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: yeah. it gets the job done :) and the seamless mode is tight02:01
cvxxcvcbDiscuss anything anonymously without registering an account at the only place on the Internet where grammar, spelling and punctuation actually matters: http://www.anontalk.com/ (or https://www.anontalk.com/ for immediate encryption). A definite bookmark for every smart Internet user! (This has been a public service message; NOT spam.)02:01
lukas___Hello, I have strange behaviour on my kubuntu - for maybe ten minutes I see swap running on maximum speed on atop while more than 50% (1.3GB) of RAM is free. I do not consider this to be normal. CPU is for 80%idle, disk does not seem to be overloaded ... Could anyone say what could be wrong? The computer is really having some troubles with performance, but I do not see where and why02:01
Elmosapienim only 11; the yougest developer here ><02:01
mykolaElmosapien: you're a dev? which project? :)02:01
agent_ji would like to set up a GNU MailMan mailing list, but i don't want to have to host it myself. alternatives please?02:02
Elmosapiena bit on lfs and im dev for UltraXLinux too02:02
Ben64agent_j: find a host?02:02
Elmosapiensearch up UltraXLinux on google02:02
evilGUIAnyone here using a radeon 40xx card?02:02
agent_jBen64: isn't there some free MailMan service though?02:02
Elmosapienim  using a ATI redeon xpress 20002:03
GuidMorrowmykola: http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotvirtualboxreg.png02:03
[[[Campanita_22]The one who has done CISCO?02:03
i3luefirewhat does it mean when i get the error                         make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'.  Stop.02:03
Ben64agent_j: no idea02:03
mykolaElmosapien: find that hard to believe ;)02:03
ctmjr!cn | wpqhs12302:03
ubottuwpqhs123: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk02:03
Elmosapienyou reckon02:03
lstarnesi3luefire: it means that what you are building does not understand make xconfig02:04
[[[Campanita_22] (¯`·.·>Elmosapien<·.·`¯) what version of linux you recommend02:04
wpqhs123i can speak english02:04
lstarnes[[[Campanita_22]: please disable that formatting as well02:04
mykolaGuidMorrow: are you using the open source edition?02:04
i3luefirelstarnes, well i am trying to build a cust kern02:04
wpqhs123red hat 9.002:04
mykolaGah... OpenSuse? why02:04
lstarnesi3luefire: does make menuconfig work02:05
Elmosapienor Fedora02:05
[[[Campanita_22]red hat is a operating system of red!02:05
[[[Campanita_22]of network.02:05
mykolaor CentOS ;)02:05
Pricey!best | [[[Campanita_22]02:05
ubottu[[[Campanita_22]: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:05
Elmosapiennot cent os02:05
i3luefirelstarnes, idk02:05
[[[Campanita_22]Yess, i like sentos.02:05
mykolapersonally though, i much prefer debian02:05
lstarnesi3luefire: try it02:05
mykolaour company runs a mix of RHEL 4 and CentOS servers... i gotta say, red hat network is an awesome tool02:05
lstarnesi3luefire: if xconfig doesn't work, menuconfig usually will02:06
Elmosapienhow do the bots work02:06
Elmosapieni wanna be a bot02:06
Ben64lstarnes: or gconfig02:06
lstarnesi3luefire: try make gconfig02:06
[[[Campanita_22]Because they challenge me so much I do not deal: (02:06
br34lshort question : is ext4 format "just able to handle bigger files" and boot a lil bit faster ?   if i understand the wiki right02:06
i3luefirelstarnes, menuconfig doesnt work02:06
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: to be honest though. once you know enough, every linux distro becomes similar02:06
mykola[[[Campanita_22]: my advice is to just choose one and stick w/ it02:07
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Ben64i3luefire: are you in the right directory02:07
[[[Campanita_22] (¯`·.·>mykola<·.·`¯) :D thanks!02:07
Elmosapienmy company is Computers 'n' More servers run Ubuntu Server 9.1002:07
i3luefireBen64, i think so02:08
Pricey!offtopic | Elmosapien02:08
ubottuElmosapien: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:08
mykolaElmosapien: ... why? It's unstable (for a server environment) and doesn't come with enterprise tools to keep everything in line with everything else02:08
mykolaand ubottu has a point :)02:08
i3luefireyes i am02:09
Ben64i'd rather use 8.04 server02:09
Ben64nothing but LTS's for me02:09
Ben64at least unless I'm just playing around02:09
mykolaBen64: yeah... less chance of something breaking randomly :D02:09
Ben64I had tons of problems on Gutsy02:09
GuidMorrowlol blue screen of death in a virtual machine, I shoulda known02:09
Elmosapien!offtopic | Pricey02:09
ubottuPricey: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:09
[[[Campanita_22]See you after..!!!!02:09
Ben64now I'm sticking with Hardy till Lusty Lark comes out02:09
[[[Campanita_22]Bye bye!!.02:10
mykolaBen64: Gutsy : Canonical as Vista : Microsoft02:10
Ben64mykola: really?02:10
Ben64firefox would freeze my whole system02:10
Ben64never did figure that one out02:10
GuidMorrowfor some reason the audio is still kinda terrible02:10
mykolaBen64: lol... i don't know a single person who liked gutsy better than feisty or hardy02:10
Elmosapien!offtopic | mykola02:10
ubottumykola: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:10
PriceyElmosapien: I sent you a PM earlier?02:11
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mykolaBen64: if i recall correctly, gutsy was the first ubuntu to come with built in compiz and plug ins enabled, right? Feisty had an experimental box for desktop cube, but gutsy had it by default02:11
Ben64i think so02:11
Ben64it sure was "gutsy"02:12
mykolaBen64: yeah... that affected stability02:12
Ben64i disabled that, still crashed with firefox02:12
zhxkhow to see the size of memory a program occupy?02:12
Ben64and since i finally got flash 10 working, my computer is complete02:12
br34lzhxk systemmonitor?!02:13
zhxkbr34l:under cli?02:13
br34l..nvm.. ^^02:13
mykolaheh... my favorite firefox bug was the one that made it full screen... remember that? no way to manipulate the window unless you turned it into full screen mode and then popped it out again (hitting F11 twice)02:13
mykolaSystem monitor on the command line is called "top"02:13
Ben64type "top"02:13
dsdeiz_hello, in my acer laptop there is this volume wheel but can't seem to make it work. but it works perfectly with mplayer. can i make it work with a volume control or something?02:14
lukas___zhxk: there are more top is classic, others like htop ...02:14
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inx-livewhat's a good, easy to use CLI network traffice monitor?02:16
inx-livehi ya Elmosapien !02:17
ubuntu__hi, does anyone knows if i cancel the checksum while burning a disk?02:17
ubuntu__hi, does anyone knows if i cancel the checksum while burning a disk, it wont work?02:19
GuidMorrowI still can't get to my @#$%&* flash key02:20
arbiri need to separate the / and /usr partitions, how much space do i allocate to / ?02:20
lakotajameshi guys.  i just bought a new laptop, runnning vista.  i'm about to install linux, is there any reason i should dual-boot, or should i just wipe it completely?02:20
biovoreubuntu__: It will, but you will not be able to verify that the disk burned correctly..02:21
inx-livelakotajames: as long as you are sure there are now windows apps you will need, go for it02:21
arbirlakotajames: let it dual boot02:21
agent_jlakotajames: whatever you do, don't delete the recovery partition!!02:21
arbiragent_j: any idea what size the / partition should be ?02:21
Elmosapieni couldnt talk b402:22
ElmosapienPricey banned me02:22
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PriceyElmosapien: PM please?02:22
agent_jlakcaj: well the / directory is what contains your whole system and all your apps. give it as much as you can.02:22
agent_jlakcaj: opps sorry wp02:22
arbiragent_j: i plan to keep a / and /usr separate02:23
Elmosapienok Pricey02:23
lakotajamesok, what are the advantages of multipule partitions?02:23
agent_jarbir: sorry i kinda miss fired there. um, the root directory should be 10GB minimum imo.02:23
arbiragent_j: i have 10gb in total :-)02:23
megloIn a fresh install of Jaunty 9.04 on my machine with a 6800GS, booting up gdm/xorg has my display just spitting out vertical blinking line noise. I replaced it with some S3 ViRGE but I was wondering how I would go about fixing the issue in order to use the other card?02:24
Flannelarbir: Why do you want to separate /usr?02:24
br34l:s risky but should work, my cousin is running ubuntu 8,.04 on a 8gig hd, i think02:24
agent_jarbir: if you be careful it could just as easily be 3GB or 5GB. that may run out though.02:24
arbirFlannel: better performnace..... we keep writing to /usr02:24
megloYou can run it on 2GB~ if you have xubuntu. a full installation is like 1.5~GB02:25
megloShould I use the nv driver, what is happening when GDM starts up that causes my graphics card to spaz out?02:26
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stoneri might just install xcfe actually02:31
i3luefirewhere is a good how-to on building a cust kern?02:33
Steilhey i want to make gnome look like windows XP how do i do it?02:33
Elmosapienhow can i make a WORLD accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.1002:34
br34lStreil: what ubuntu version?02:34
mario3how do i get ubuntu to see a tv tuner ?02:34
lakotajamesis there anything it's worth keeping vista for?02:34
Pete2whats the best ubuntu versio?02:34
br34luhhm..ubuntu 4?02:34
lakotajamesPete2: the newest.02:35
Pete2really eh?02:35
lstarnesPete2: 8.04 or 9.0402:35
Elmosapienhow can i??02:35
geneticxanyone knows of a tool to download video from an IP camera in linux?02:35
Pete2cool...im running that i just cant get any rendering going02:35
Elmosapienhow can i make a WORLD accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.1002:35
Elmosapienhow can i make a WORLD accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.1002:35
Elmosapienhow can i make a local only accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.1002:35
Elmosapien^is correct02:35
meglono one likes you02:36
Elmosapiennot ^^^^02:36
GuidMorrowthere was a certain problem that forced me to come here, you know, something like this: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8529/hppse35crash.png02:36
ctmjr!karmic | Elmosapien02:36
ubottuElmosapien: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+102:36
i3luefirewhere is a good how-to on building a cust kern? i already tried google...02:36
megloi3luefire, debian docs02:36
Elmosapien!karmic | ctmjr02:37
ubottuctmjr: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+102:37
i3luefiremeglo, ty02:37
GuidMorrowkarmic will break?  as in, if I try to use it in its current form, it's prone to crashing?02:37
megloi3luefire, i'm sure there is a stickied thread on ubuntu forums about it too02:37
lstarnesGuidMorrow: yes02:37
ctmjrElmosapien: what is your problem?02:38
GuidMorrowwait ... the version numbers refer to the year/month the OS was released02:38
Pete2I cant for the life of me get effects going at all..any links or anything to help...02:38
PriceyElmosapien: I strongly advise against alpha software if you do not know what you are doing.02:38
jeeves_Mosswhat is the package called for smssend?02:38
Elmosapienhow can i make a local only accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.0402:38
Elmosapienive got ubuntu server 9.0402:39
mgray5159ubuntu server is pretty nice02:39
stinkyhello, how can I make the wireless network manager remember my keyring pasword, so i dont have to enter it every time? thanks :)02:39
Elmosapieni use it a web server02:39
Elmosapienhow can i make a local only accessible nfs drive on ubuntu server 9.0402:40
Elmosapienanswer me02:40
backgenhey i reinstalled windows a few days ago, and of course it removed my swap menu on bootup...i forgot how to redo it though, can anyone help me?02:40
Pricey!nfs | Elmosapien02:40
ubottuElmosapien: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.02:40
DigitalCryptotime to go back to #archlinux :)02:40
Pete2..how/where do i get drivers so I can get desktop effects02:40
stinkyPete2, right click on desktop and turn on effects02:40
Elmosapien!devel | Pete202:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about devel02:40
Elmosapienthanks mr bot02:41
PriceyElmosapien: Please read what the bot pointed you to.02:41
Elmosapieni did02:41
Elmosapiengood page02:41
Elmosapienthe bot gave me02:41
Elmosapien!linux | Elmosapien02:42
ubottuElmosapien, please see my private message02:42
stinky! alsa mute02:42
mik3yI'm having some issues with talkd. It was working and all of a sudden it's not. Can someone help assist me? This is driving me nuts.02:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about alsa mute02:42
Pricey!sound | stinky02:42
ubottustinky: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:42
stinky! mute02:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mute02:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shutup02:42
backgencan anyone help me reinstall GRUB, i have a dual boot linux/windows comp, i reinstalled Windows a few days ago and now i cant swap to my linux partition anymore (swap menu doesnt show on startup, just goes straight to windows) thanks!02:42
Elmosapien!shut up02:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shut up02:42
Elmosapien!my friend02:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about my friend02:43
stinkythanks, I need to make so ALSA is not set to mute at startup02:43
Dr_Willisbackgen:  thats the 'grub menu' swap means somthing totally different in linux terms02:43
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | backgen02:43
ubottubackgen: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:43
backgenthank you!02:43
Pricey!abr Elmosapien02:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about abr Elmosapien02:43
stinkythanks for killing spammer :)02:44
mario3how do i ask the bot about tv tuners?02:44
mik3ycananyone be of assistance?02:44
mik3yThis is driving me completely mad02:44
ctmjrmario3: whats wrong with your tuner?02:44
mario3! tv tuner02:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tv tuner02:45
mario3i have  9.04 adn  it doesnt seem to find the tuner02:45
LinksFan! compiz02:45
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz02:45
mario3it works on windows 7 on this box so i t is there and funcional02:45
inx-livemik3y: what's talkd?  Just curious02:45
ctmjrmario3: what have you tried to see if it is not workin?02:46
mario3downloaded "scantv" but i didnt have luck wht that02:46
mario3frankly i am in the dark02:47
backgeneeek terminal won't accept the fdisk -1 command02:47
LinksFan! virtual desktop02:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about virtual desktop02:47
inx-livebackgen: sudo fdisk -l02:47
swerve_r u running it as root02:47
mario3there are guides about mythtv, gut i t doent relatte to simply watching live tv02:47
mik3yinx-live: it's an old way of communicating from the CLI to other users02:47
ctmjrmario3: is it usb or pci?02:47
mik3ywhich is why this channel is useless for help on these kind of things. :)02:47
mik3yNobody knows squat.02:47
inx-livemik3y: I'm running a CLI distro right now - called INX02:48
backgeninx-live: thanks!02:48
mario3asus phc3-10002:48
inx-livebackgen: your welcome!  :)02:48
arkanesanyone know how to make nautilus sorting not be case sensitive?02:49
arkanesgoogle suggests that if LANG is en_US.utf-8 it shouldn't be, but it is02:49
LinksFan! wine02:50
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:50
detrix42I need some help with an nvidia drive/module.  awhile back I tried to upgrade the video driver by going to nvidia's website.  There were problems, so I went back to the ubuntu community supported restricted driver.  BUT!!!  I am getting the following error:  NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.16, but this NVIDIA driver component has version
Mkainstalled dictd dict-wn (wordnet) but gnome-dictionary cant work offline02:52
richardcavellAm I the only person who thinks it intriguing that the program "Hello, World!" has been updated and has a changelog?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hello/2.4-1/+changelog02:53
MkaI get this error: Connection failed to the dictionary server at localhost:2628 . What can I do?02:53
inx-liveMka: is that the gnome-dictionary error?02:54
mario3ummmm... updated hello world? sounds too complicated to  consider02:54
ectospasmMka: try
Mkainx-live: yes02:54
ectospasmthe gnome-dictionary app doesn't recognize localhost from what I can tell02:55
richardcavellmario3: I find it extraordinary that the recent changelog actually fixes a few bugs02:55
Mkaectospasm: ok let me try that02:55
richardcavellI would have thought that Hello, World! could be written bug free, but no02:55
inx-liveMka | ectospasm - is this through firefox?02:55
ectospasminx-live: no, this is gnome-dictionary app (whatever it's called)02:55
Mkainx-live: no02:56
Mkainx-live: it's through gnome-dictionary02:56
inx-liveMka | ectospasm how does it access the gnome-dictionary site?02:56
GuidMorrowwhat does "host+del" mean02:56
ectospasminx-live: it access a dictd server02:56
inx-liveectospasm: oh.  I'm not familiar with that... googling now....02:57
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ectospasmMka: did that suggestion work for you?02:58
Mkaectospasm | inx-live: it works! but I used to use "localhost" in intrepid and it used to work. thats for help.02:58
ectospasmyeah, I dunno why it changed.02:58
ectospasmAlthough I didn't install a local dictd server until I installed UNR (Jaunty)02:58
jedcrichardcavell, hello works for me from the repos in 9.0402:59
Mkainx-live: it accesses an offline WordNet dictionary02:59
skylwhy can I hit this with FF: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/docutils/docutils-0.5.tar.gz?download02:59
richardcavelljedc: Well it's up to version 2.4-1 now02:59
skylbut not from the terminal?02:59
inx-liveMka: ahh.. I see now02:59
ectospasmskyl: it's got a ? in it02:59
skylectospasm even without03:00
jedcrichardcavell, the changelog is mostly to do with documentation, which makes sense since it is used in the packaging tutorials i think03:00
ectospasmskyl: you're changing the URL03:00
smacktalkhow do I make linux join a windows workgroup?03:00
ectospasmthe ? is important!03:00
NeurotiquetteHow do i find out what /dev my external USB device is plugged into?03:00
ectospasmsmacktalk: see samba03:00
detrix42Neurotiquette: sudo fdisk -L03:01
ctmjrmario3: i cannot find anything about your card (supported or not), can you run lspci in a terminal and see if you find your card?03:01
skylectospasm nope03:01
ectospasmUm, if it's part of a query it's important03:01
detrix42Neurotiquette: look for the size that matches your usb drive03:01
ectospasmand a ? is not valid in a URL otherwise03:01
Neurotiquettedetrix42: Thank you.03:01
detrix42Neurotiquette: no prob03:01
stinkyhow do I make so that i do not have to enter the keyring password to my wifi network every time I reboot?03:02
mario3it doesnt seem ot see it in lspci03:02
ectospasmskyl: you need to escape the question mark so the shell doesn't try to interpret it.03:02
ectospasmI usually wrap the URL in quotes for that reason.03:02
mario3Multimedia controller: ViXS Systems, Inc. XCode 2100 Series?03:03
ectospasmmario3: what are you looking for?  Seeing your card exactly depends on many things, including the lspci database being up to date03:04
mario3it shows the vid card adn the chipset related entriwes but idon t see anyting that relates to a tuner03:05
mario3how do i update the database?03:05
mik3yhow do you get a package to reinstall all the config files from the command line?03:05
mykolamik3y a sudo apt-get purge should clear config files03:06
ectospasmmario3: are you sure the tuner is supposed to show up as a separate device?03:06
GuidMorrowwindows fails03:06
arandstinky: you can go to system>admin.>authorizations I think, and the authorization should be under network-manager-settings...03:06
mykolaGuidMorrow: my sentiments exactly03:06
ectospasmGuidMorrow: more often than not, yes03:06
mario3it is an asus phc3-100 -- well it is in a pci slot... shouldtn it be indicated?03:06
GuidMorrowit says it doesn't have processor DEP when whenever Windows was running by itself it ran without reporting any problem03:06
ectospasmmario3: so it's separate from the machine?03:07
ectospasmIt may be an unknown device03:07
GuidMorrowand what is this "nested paging" thing03:07
mario3it is  a relatively new card03:07
ectospasmLook up the Asus PCI ID, see if you see any devices for that on there03:08
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ectospasmyou may need to use lspci -vvn to see all of that info03:08
detrix42Neurotiquette: did that work for  you03:08
mykolain order to configure your video card, press the start button. then click on the control panel icon.03:08
ectospasmOr just "lspci | grep -i asus"03:08
mykola*dies of a gunshot wound to the head*03:09
ectospasmwell, they can't assume any prior knowledge03:09
detrix42I need some help with an nvidia drive/module.  awhile back I tried to upgrade the video driver by going to nvidia's website.  There were problems, so I went back to the ubuntu community supported restricted driver.  BUT!!!  I am getting the following error:  NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.16, but this NVIDIA driver component has version
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ectospasmdetrix42: you should probably only use the Ubuntu restricted driver.  I ran into a problem with my machine at work because I forced the "latest" driver onto my machine, and it totally borked03:10
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sintryxanyone experience completely slow ubuntu when moving 10+ gb from Slave to Master hard drives..?03:11
LinksFan! sudo03:11
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)03:11
jeeves_Mosshow do I fix daemontools-run?  it keeps exiting with an error code of "1", and won't let me install anything else03:12
ectospasmsintryx: that probably depends on your HD transfer speeds, your HD controller(s), and your I/O capacity03:12
detrix42ectospasm: correct. I am trying to go back to the ubuntu restricted mod.   I have. but due to the upgrade a component is still marked with the upgrade version....I can't seem to undo that.03:12
sevodnyasintryx, do you mean that even the interface stops responding?03:12
Berzerkersintryx, cable select fwt03:13
br34lsounds for me like "the usual beeing busy lag "03:13
sintryxsevodnya, the only window responsive is the actual transfer, where it shows speed / files / eta etc.03:13
sintryxthese are hard drives in a laptop03:13
ectospasmdetrix42: IIRC I didn't use the stock nVidia module and stuff, I just forced what's in the Ubuntu repos03:13
jeeves_Mosshow do I fix daemontools-run?  it keeps exiting with an error code of "1", and won't let me install anything else03:13
sartanI'm pulling hair out with a weird grub problem... I've got a software raid5 as my / and a normal disk as my /boot - all of the grub tools are completely failing on me with ubuntu leaving me with basically an unusable system03:13
mario3i guess i will reboot to windows a dn see what belarc identifies for that card03:13
mario3it isnt  here as far as i cna see03:13
ectospasmsartan: how are they failing?03:13
sintryxectospasm, anyway to check the speeds?03:14
sartani'm at a point now where grub loads, my PC boots to a grub> prompt, and i'm able to manually specify kernel /vmlinuz-etc root=/dev/mapper/LVM-root & initrd /initrd-etc03:14
sartanectospasm: The scripts seem to run, but i'm not completely sure what they're doing03:14
ectospasmsintryx: hdparm might be able to tell you, but I don't know that tool very well03:14
sartanmy menu.lst file looks ok, but it's like grub is ignoring it03:14
sintryxectospasm, ill check it out thx03:14
mario3there doesnt seem to be anyting in /dev either...03:15
sartanwhat i'd like to do is i suppos eunderstand the difference between stages at a high level so i can pinpoint where the boot process is failing, so i can target my efforts to correct it. running grub-install & update-grub over and over doesn't seem to be doing very well for me.03:15
detrix42ectospasm: How do I force the repo driver....I have tried in synaptic to do a full reinstall, but I still have the problem... I am about reinstall ubuntu03:15
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ectospasmdetrix42: that's what I'd do, it's less hassle03:16
ectospasmdetrix42: unless your home directories aren't on their own partition(s)03:16
sartan...googling - doesn't look like i'm getting to stage 1.503:17
sartanor 1.5 isn't loading stage 203:17
detrix42ectospasm: I am running a backup of the whole system....argh03:17
ectospasmdetrix42: ouch03:17
t0mm0 ca03:17
ectospasmnext time, put your home directories on their own partition03:17
jeeves_Mosshow can I repair this error?  "E: daemontools-run: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"03:18
ectospasmthen if you have to reinstall, you don't need to wipe out all of your files03:18
Ben64detrix42: when are you getting that error03:18
Dr_Willisjeeves_Moss:  whats giving that error?03:18
ectospasmjeeves_Moss: I don't know daemontools, but that's not a very descriptive error03:18
ectospasmWe need more verbosity03:18
Dr_Willisjeeves_Moss:  you are tryign to use that windows disk-emulator program Daemontools in linux with wine?03:19
detrix42ectospasm: I will probibly do that, but there are other areas of the system that need the back up...like all the libraries I have collected...03:19
jeeves_Mosswhen I try to install any new software, it gives me an error that just specifys that daemontools-run won't update, and when I try to reinstall it, I get that error03:19
Ben64it's gotta be easier to fix nvidia than to re-install ubuntu03:19
roberthow do i enable voice chat in Gyachi?03:19
ectospasmBen64: it's simpler because it's a known solution03:19
detrix42Ben64: I have installed the game PlaneShift.  its setup program tests the video card capabilities.   I get the error then.03:20
LinksFanDoes iTunes run in Ubuntu?03:20
ectospasmLinksFan: if it does, I'm a happy man!03:20
duiuLinksFan: under Wine, no syncing03:20
Ben64you could try uninstalling nvidia through synaptic, then installing the one from nvidia.com03:20
ectospasmbut, alas, I don't think so03:20
ectospasmWine chokes on it03:20
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LinksFanAh well. Worth asking, at least!03:21
ectospasm...at least the latest version03:21
Ben64but then when your kernel updates, you would have to do it again03:21
ectospasmBen64: you've got it backwards03:21
ectospasmHe tried that already, and now he's trying to revert to the repo one03:21
Ben64how so03:21
duiuWhenever I try to ssh into my system I get "access denied" (with correct password) whenever I try to log in as anyone except the user I created when I installed the system. Suggestions?03:21
ectospasmduiu: not all users have ssh access03:21
Ben64ectospasm: he tried installing nvidia.com over top of synaptic's03:21
LinksFan! kde03:22
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde403:22
duiuectospasm: So how do I give them access?03:22
detrix42Ben64: yes I did about 3 months ago03:22
ectospasmduiu: hold on, researching03:22
detrix42Ben64: then I had problems and had to go back to the repo driver03:22
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Ben64well if you think re-installing is good, go for it03:23
Ben64i just hate doing that myself03:23
detrix42Ben64: I am dreading it. but....03:23
ectospasmduiu: what does the -vvv option to ssh tell you when you try to connect and it fails?03:23
Ben64just remember, don't install stuff without synaptic03:24
ectospasmBen64: using apt is OK03:25
detrix42Ben64: but that takes all the fun out of learning how to be a linux system admin....lol    cough...cough...03:26
ectospasmheh... I can't wait for the linux monolith to drop out of the collective consciousness.  "Do you know Debian?"  "Do you know Red Hat?"  instead of Linux03:27
ectospasmI should take that to OT03:28
jeeves_Mosswhat ubuntu package contains URLLIB2 for python?03:29
Lunisanyone know how to make windows stop auto-maximizing after uninstalling ubuntu-netbook-remix?03:29
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br34ljeeves_Moss   http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/articles/urllib2.shtml   ?03:31
jeeves_Mossbr34l, thanks.03:31
ectospasmjeeves_Moss: if you know the name of the file (and it's on your system) you can use dpkg-query /path/to/file03:31
duiuectospasm: goes through a bunch of stuff, then defaults to remaining method password03:31
jeeves_Mossectospasm, that's the problem.  I don't think it's installed.  I got a script from someone that needs urllib and urllib2, and I can't find them for Ubuntu03:32
ectospasmso what happens when  you give it the password, duiu?03:32
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ipatrolWe should focus in the coming releases on allowing the user to do more things without the terminal03:32
dragonhow can i undeclare a function in bash?03:32
ectospasmipatrol: using the terminal should always be an option, though03:32
ectospasmand quicker too03:32
duiuectospasm: sends a pack, waits for replecy, auth than can continue : publickey, password, then the permission denied03:32
duiu*packet, repley03:33
ectospasmbefore you give it the password?03:33
Xerran1whats the best app to back up ubuntu?03:33
duiuectospasm: after03:33
ipatrolTo delete a function? Declare it again as nothing03:33
duiuectospasm: I'd copy it to pastebin but I'm on cygwin and can't highlight, and redirection isn't working03:33
Steilduiu: can you help me?03:34
ectospasmduiu: I dunno what it could be03:34
duiuSteil: !ask03:34
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:34
ectospasmUnless the user's shell is set to something not executable03:34
Steil!ask How do I make ubuntu work fast on my old computer because it goes slow when i try to play videos03:34
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:34
QuarterstaffBeen using Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope as my sole system for 7 days now. No problems I could not overcome except for my printer03:35
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ectospasmQuarterstaff: that may be your printer manufacturers fault03:35
ectospasmAlthough linuxprinting.org has come a LONG way03:35
oldude67Steil, what cpu are you using and how much memory do you have in it?03:35
duiuSteil: you don't need the !ask, I was just informing you that you should not ask to ask, and you can't speed it up, your computer just sucks. You could try Xubuntu instead, but you're pretty much screwed03:35
dragonSteil: anything that starts with a ! is food for a bot. Don't feed it too much ;)03:35
Quarterstaffectospasm,  Yes! I need a new printer03:36
sevodnyaSteil: Also, what type of video are you trying to play?03:36
Steili have pentium 4 1.4ghz with 512mb ram03:36
ectospasmThe Xerox they got at work is niiiice, but I can't afford that03:36
Steili try to play veronica mars03:36
dragonSteil: what version of ubuntu?03:36
oldude67Steil, use xubuntu or add more memory.03:36
vosssteil, what type of video card in your system?03:36
sevodnyaSteil: on DVD?03:36
Steilit .avi03:36
Steilintel video on board03:37
ectospasmRAM and CPU become an issue on older hardware03:37
Steilit cant have more memory03:37
br34ldisable desktop effects03:37
jedcStiel, it should run ok on most systems, what are your hardware specs?03:37
Steildesktop effects dont even turn on03:37
jedcStiel, like duiu and olddude67 said, you could try using xfce instead of gnome, its a little lighter weight03:37
Steilit 1.4ghz 512mb ram03:37
Steilwhat is xfce?03:37
ipatrolFor those transitioning, I woulf suggest using a good virtual machine until you can get everything to work03:37
Steili dont want to pay for it03:37
br34la desktop enviroment03:37
Steili dont have money to buy another ubuntu03:37
ectospasmSteil: aptititude -y install xubuntu-desktop03:37
dragonSteil: there could be several bottlenecks. Best way is to run a system monitor (like top) and see what process takes the most processor and other resources, when you run the video.03:37
br34llol because it cost so much money03:38
ipatrolUbuntu is free XD03:38
vosssteil, is that a dell?03:38
ectospasmer, aptitude03:38
noamsmlIs broadcom support for Linux still in the shitter? I'm considering buying a laptop that might have either atheros or broadcom, but I don't wanna mess around with ndiswarpper.03:38
jedcStiel, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" in a terminal, before logging in go to options->sessions and choose xfce03:38
orochicouple of problems with firefox 3.5 in jaunty...the flash plugin crashes when fullscreened (official nonfree package) and the java plugin seems to crash at random...neither of these happen with the "prepackaged" version of firefox that you download from the mozilla site03:38
Steilhow i use top03:38
ectospasmnoamsml: atheros works out of the box for me on my Samsung N11003:38
Steilubuntu is free?????03:38
Steili pay $9.99 for it03:38
Steilvoss it not dell03:38
Steilit compaq03:38
ectospasmSteil: you must have paid for the media it came on03:39
dragonSteil: who charged you for ubuntu?03:39
Steilthe computer store charge $9.9903:39
ectospasmcharging for Ubuntu is not illegal03:39
br34lsue them03:39
dragonSteil: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu03:39
noamsmlectospasm: I know, I was asking about Broadcom, since I have bad memories.03:39
jedcsteil, you can download it and burn it to a cd for free on your own03:39
Dr_WillisSteil:  they can charge a reasonable amount for media/copying03:39
Steili had to bring in my own cd03:39
ipatrolif you paied 10 bucks for free software, you've been cheated03:39
dragonbr34l: it isn't illegal to sell ubuntu ;)03:39
Steilthey put it on03:39
jedcsteil, you got ripped off :(03:39
Steili bring my cd and they put it on03:39
ectospasmnoamsml: I dunno about broadcom.  The Broadcom USB adapter I have in my machine up front blows nastly clam chunks03:39
Ins|dehello, i've a home server providing some services like ssh, http, etc.. and i set it up as home.mydomain.com, i wanted to use virtualhosts like git.home.mydomain.com etc.. what should i do? do i need a domain server running?03:39
Dr_WillisSteil:   so you paied them to think/research for you.03:39
br34ldragon: it should be ^^03:39
sevodnyanoamsml: I'm running on Broadcom wireless here, internal to my laptop, and it's fine.03:40
Dr_Willis!shippit | Steil03:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shippit03:40
Dr_Willis!shipit | Steil03:40
ubottuSteil: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org - Shipit will send Jaunty (9.04) CDs03:40
dragonbr34l: i see your point, but it's all for freedom.03:40
DarthBradyso is this where i ca get some screen resolution help?03:40
Steilso i can get it03:40
addchild314darth: sure, why not03:40
Steilhow they know where i live?03:40
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detrix42DarthBrady: what video card03:40
LunisSteil: you....tell them :/03:40
Steili dont want address online03:41
DarthBradynone mobo video03:41
br34ldragon : yeah, thought so :) thats very good and it should be that way ;)03:41
dragonSteil: check the website, you'll figure it out03:41
jedcSteil, its much faster to download the iso online and burn it to a cd yourself03:41
Steilcan u link me?03:41
detrix42DarthBrady: should be a video chipset then03:41
dragonSteil: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu03:41
jedcstiel, but if you already have it installed, you can just download xfce4, you dont need to reinstall the os03:41
jedcstiel, you should open System->administration->synaptic package manager and read the popup window information03:42
DarthBradyi'll have to look it up..03:42
MindSparkhi, for some reason my laptop doesn't change frequencies to the maximum03:42
LinksFan! firestarter03:42
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist03:42
ipatrolSteli:I can guide you03:42
MindSparkit goes to 600mhz max although the actual max is 1.6gh03:42
sevodnyaMindSpark: what are you using to determine the current processor state/speed?03:43
MindSparksevodnya, a gnome applet03:43
MindSparksevodnya, actually an xfce applet03:44
sevodnyaMindSpark: I have sometimes found those to be less than accurate; you might try downloding powertop and seeing if you can confirm that it's not working correctly.03:44
LinksFan! ports03:44
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall03:44
MindSparksevodnya, powernowd:   cpu0: 75Mhz - 600Mhz (8 steps)03:46
MindSparkbefore it used to show 200-160003:46
sartanfixed my grub issue by foregoing the fancy ubuntu scripts and running 'install' manually03:47
sevodnyaMindSpark: that sounds like a BIOS configuration problem to me; did you recently install new memory, upgrade the BIOS firmware, or change BIOS settings?03:47
ipatrolWhen I first learned Ubuntu came with a bittorrent client, I deleted it03:47
MindSparksevodnya, no03:48
br34lipatrol: and why? its a pretty good one03:49
ipatrolIMHO Bittorrent = disc shoplifting03:49
LinksFanBitTorrent is perfectly legal, but some of the stuff put up isn't03:50
ectospasmipatrol: I use BT to download Ubuntu ISOs03:50
ectospasmMUCH faster than any other method.  Period03:50
GuidMorrowipatrol: is watching tool-assisted speedruns legal?03:50
ipatrolI can not think of for myself a legit use03:50
ectospasmipatrol: I just gave you one03:51
br34li know some good reasons :P03:51
LinksFanWell, Public Domains Torrents supplies torrents of movies that are now in the public domain03:51
sevodnyaMindSpark: the way both the ratios are multiplied by 3/8 suggests that the clock settings for the CPU are off for some reason.03:51
ipatrolI would rather wait an hour (as I did to download ubuntu) than use bittorrent03:51
Lunisipatrol: obviously you have no clue how many bands get known by willingly distributing their music for free on bittorrent03:51
ectospasmThis should go OT03:51
br34lthats a mysterium03:51
ipatrolI hope MPAA/RIAA destroys it03:52
MindSparksevodnya, what does this mean ?03:52
Lunisipatrol: you, sir, are an idiot.03:52
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:52
oldude67!OT | ipatrol03:52
ubottuipatrol: please see above03:52
ectospasmipatrol: they won't be able to, as long as there are legitimate uses03:52
ectospasmyeah, as I said earlier...03:52
Dr_Willisgee.. a legal use of bittorrent.. and..  you are against it.. :)03:52
LinksFanjoin #ubuntu-offtopic03:52
LinksFanWhoops >.<03:52
ipatrolLet's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic03:53
vossipatrol, bittorrent is a protocol and has both legal and illegal uses just like everything else on the internet.03:53
grzeshi, it's kinda weird but i looked everywhere :D so i ask03:53
Dr_Willisipatrol:  its not even worth discussing in there i think - have fun.03:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bt03:53
LinksFan! bittorrent03:53
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P03:53
GuidMorrowisn't transmission a bt client pre-installed in ubuntu03:53
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  yes. Transmission is a Bittorrent client. It works very well.03:54
grzesi'm looking for a name of a cartoon,  or characters: there was a dog, ans mabye his son this father was slow, talk funny and also slow. had big ears03:54
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  its getting where more and more 'games' are also using bittorrent to distribute their data/updates/files also.03:54
grzesit wasnt huckelberty03:54
Steilis there a way to get the beta torrentflux work03:54
Steilor is there alternative?03:54
vossgrzes, Goofy?03:54
Steili love my torrentflux but it is so annoying now these days03:54
sevodnyaMindSpark: Basically, the clock speed of the processor is dependent on subdividing a signal sent out from a quartz oscillator. If that gets misconfigured somehow (typically in BIOS settings), the processor will run at lower speeds.03:54
Dr_WillisSteil:  try the source?03:54
SteilDr_Willis: it does not work03:55
Dr_WillisSteil:  fule a bug. :)03:55
MindSparksevodnya, I am thinking this might be set low when the laptop is on battery ?03:55
grzeshe walks and talks slowly, but he was invincible. and had this funny laugh.03:55
SteilDr_Willis: they not work on it in long time03:55
grzesnot goofy not huckelberry03:55
Dr_WillisSteil:  sounds like a good reason to look for alterantives then.03:55
sevodnyaMindSpark: I've not seen a laptop thus configured before.03:55
oldude67!OT | grzes03:56
ubottugrzes: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:56
SteilDr_Willis: is there good alternative to torrent flux?03:56
Steilthat is on ubuntu03:56
grzesoldude67:  i know i know sorry03:56
Steiltorrentflux is website you install on computer and you can login and download torrent03:56
snd_can u guys help me with the easiest way to make a usb bootable image?03:56
Steili put it on my filesver03:56
grzesbut i cant sleep because of that :D03:56
addchild314steil: vuze03:56
Dr_WillisSteil:  given that you just said the program doswent work.. theres  lots of torrent programs that do work...  and most have web interfaces.03:56
MindSparksevodnya, yea, back when I used slackware I had to patch the kernel so it would run my processor03:56
xnockoutEAZY GUYS !!!!!03:56
SteilDr_Willis: it works but the newest version beta does not03:56
Dr_WillisSteil:  transmission has a web interface.03:56
Steildo i need GUI to use it?03:56
Dr_WillisSteil:  as does ktorrent.03:57
Steili dont have x on machine03:57
GuidMorrow!ot Steil03:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ot Steil03:57
sevodnyaMindSpark: Using slackware, you encountered the same problem unless you patched the kernel?03:57
Steildo they need x?03:57
Dr_WillisSteil:   now you want to start putting limitions on things.. guess ya go research the clients out.03:57
Steilwell fuck03:57
Steildo they need x or nto?03:57
Dr_Willisthe gui apps need X.. of course.03:57
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:57
Steilwell i dont have x03:57
Steildo you know any alternatives that dont need x?03:58
Steili need web insterface only03:58
addchild314steil: vuze has an alternative CLI03:58
Dr_Willisor run them in a vncserver session. Its not my fault you dont have X.03:58
addchild314steil: and a web interface03:58
MindSparksevodnya, I had to patch the kernel so it would run the speedstepping. But that was maybe 7 years ago or so03:58
Steiladdchild314: is it decent?03:58
Steiland thanks addchild314 you're awesome! Dr_Willis you're a fucking asshole.03:59
sevodnyaMindSpark: Not really my area of expertise, but the problem you're encountering now doesn't sound like it would be caused by the Linux kernel.03:59
Dr_WillisSteil:  whatever.. go do your own research.03:59
addchild314steil: ive been using it for a couple years now03:59
oldude67!language | Steil03:59
ubottuSteil: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:59
MindSparksevodnya, ok, thanks, any tips on what to google for ?03:59
Steiloldude67: i'm sorry its just hes a prick and he was mean to me03:59
sevodnyaMindSpark: Do you happen to have something like a LiveCD of another distro or some way to try and determine if it's Ubuntu or hardware-related?03:59
ohlievherhello room04:00
MindSparksevodnya, right, good idea actually, but I am not sure if the cpu frequency scaling apps are on the liveCD04:00
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!04:00
phirestalkerI wiped my drive trying to troubleshoot boot problems, then I installed a fresh system and restored over that with a backup with sbackup, I am running this system now. after fixing the obvious problems of package discrepancies I am left with some dbus errors which I didn't notice before, so long story short, how do I reset dbus security to default settings?04:01
sevodnyaMindSpark: I know that freq scaling worked for me on the latest Ubuntu LiveCD, can't speak for others.04:01
ohlievheranyone can help to direct me or share with me NVidia GT9400GT Linux driver?04:01
MindSparksevodnya, alright, thanks, I'll give that a shot04:01
addchild314the nvidia driver pack should work with it... its in the universe repo on ubuntu.. restricetd drivers04:02
sevodnyaohlievher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:02
jedcStiel, rtorrent04:02
sevodnyaMindSpark: np04:02
jedcsteil, please watch your language, we are all volunteers trying to help, and most of us learned on our own by using google and such...04:03
GuidMorrowwhere do I find all the hardware stuff in Ubuntu?04:03
afedGuidMorrow: which hardware stuff04:03
ryan122whats up dewds04:03
afedGuidMorrow: look in the /proc and /sys filesystems04:03
afedGuidMorrow: also try dmesg | less04:03
ohlievherJust new to this room. And found ubuntu feature with effects needing special driver for linux setup04:04
oldude67GuidMorrow, or lspci or lshw04:04
ryan122is there any way to speed up graphics performance on a integrated unichrome ?04:04
vossohl, ubuntu 9.04 works just fine with nvidia 940004:04
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vossryan, by plugging in an nvidia card? ;-)04:05
FirefisheI'm using Intrepid 8.10, kde 4.2.2.  How can I get the digital clock widget to display 12 hour format instead of 24 hour?04:06
Dr_WillisFirefishe:  i recall you have to use the 'time and date format' setting in the settings tools.. and then restart the clock. (and ive no idea why they cant just give the clock a checkbox to show 12/24 hr format)04:07
FirefisheDr_Willis: Agreed on the checkbox.  Which time settings tool?04:08
GuidMorrowoldude67: the PCI bus scan reports instances of "Brooktree Corporation Bt878", but can't find anything to configure the hardware with04:08
Dr_WillisFirefishe:   under kde3 it was called 'time and date format' but i forget where its at in kde404:08
GuidMorrowthe card is: ATI TV WONDER VE04:08
Dr_WillisFirefishe:  that also sets the time/date for mat for all the kde apps.. Not just the clock.04:09
FirefisheDr_Willis: Gotcha.  The thing is, the System Settings-->Date and Time menu doesn't have any way to set the format.04:10
FirefisheDr_Willis: It's like it's hiding ;)04:10
dsdeiz_hello anybody using xmonad here?04:10
Dunkelhi there guys, how can i check errors in an external hd?04:10
Dunkeli was reading something about the fsck04:10
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:10
migg137can someobe give me a tutorial to making my windows bar transparent?04:11
Dr_WillisFirefishe:  yep. its soo super secret they have to hide it..  i suggested once to some kde list to put a menu item from the clock settings right to it.. :)04:11
FirefisheDr_Willis: Also, since I have gnome installed, as well, I tried gnome's time settings tool, but alas, it, too, has no check box.04:11
Dunkeli need help, my hard disc is not working :( i dont know what to do04:11
GuidMorrowhave you started looking for a package called testdisk?04:11
Dr_WillisFirefishe: Firefishe  gnomes clock in the panel here has a  adjust time and date menu item at least. :)04:12
addchild314Dunkel: more specific?04:12
Dunkeli plug it to my computer and the sistem is not detecting it04:12
Dr_WillisFirefishe:  and that clock does have a 12/24 hr option04:12
GuidMorrowit's not being detected in bios -_-04:12
Dunkeli know it has some problems because i fix that using the scandisc in other computer04:12
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Dunkelit is a usb drive04:13
Dunkelso i thought using ubuntu i can fix it04:13
GuidMorrowdid you "mount" it first04:13
Dr_WillisDunkel:  what filesystem is the  drive using?04:13
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal04:13
mike3Weird issue guys.. I've had talkd working for quite sometime and all of a sudden it quit. netstat shows it's listening on the proper ports but I keep getting a connection refused. I can't find anything on google and was hoping maybe somebody here would know why. I don't even have iptables installed on this thing04:13
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FirefisheDr_Willis: Nice to have that in gnome, at least.  Still, I believe there's a way to get every clock to display 12 hour format system-wide, but I forget how to do it.04:13
ohlievheraddchild314, yes it works but does not support the effect features of ubuntu 9.0404:13
Dr_WillisDunkel:  for ntfs - its best to let a wndows box scan/check the disk for errors.04:14
sevodnyaDunkel: can you pastebin the output of lsusb?04:14
Dunkelyeah wait04:14
Dr_WillisDunkel:  or use linux to mount it. and recover/rescue what you can from it.04:14
koolkatcan anyone tell me what went wrong when I tried to burn this ISO twice?: http://pastebin.org/931404:14
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addchild314olie: im not sure then...04:14
ohlievheraddchild314: you mentioned restriced drivers ... are those for linus setup?04:15
addchild314olie: you're running ubuntu, right?04:15
ohlievhervoss, hi ... yap it works fine without the special effects with ubuntu04:16
ohlievhervoss, just chkg if there is a driver for ubuntu that supports its effect features04:16
vossohl, compiz is problematic, honestly I turned it off and never noticed the difference04:17
ItsmeWhich is the fastest 'C' Compiler on Ubuntu?04:17
Blehk__Is there anyway to listen to info that a daemon is printing?04:17
phirestalkerI wiped my drive trying to troubleshoot boot problems, then I installed a fresh system and restored over that with a backup with sbackup, I am running this system now. after fixing the obvious problems of package discrepancies I am left with some dbus errors which I didn't notice before, so long story short, how do I reset dbus security to default settings?04:17
TechnocratHello everyone04:18
Dr_WillisBlehk__:  what deamon/service? many have logging features/levels you can enable.04:18
Dunkelsevodnya: http://pastebin.com/m48a7b9b204:18
ohlievherubottu, is that a site for linux or ubuntu supported graphic drivers04:18
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:18
TechnocratHow can I install LAMP on ubuntu ?04:18
Blehk__Not trying to log.04:18
addchild314tech: from the ubuntu server install menu04:18
ty_can any1 help me test out my dcc file transfer on my irc server? I rally need help and i dont have anyone else to test it with04:18
koolkatcan anyone tell me what went wrong when I tried to burn this ISO twice?: http://pastebin.org/931404:18
Blehk__Trying to have it basically stdout to multiple terminals04:18
Blehk__trying to listen to paster's daemon04:19
migg137How do i make my window's title bar transparent or "glass"04:19
Dr_WillisBlehk__:  never heard of paster. if it can do verbose logging to  a file you can pipe it to whatever you want.04:19
SJrI tried switching to Kubuntu, but it seems like Gnome is still running, how can I just get rid of Gnome.04:19
DunkelDr_Willis: how do i mount my drive on linux, im sorry if this is a newb question but im new on this sorry04:20
Dr_WillisSJr:  how did you 'switch' ?04:20
Dr_WillisDunkel:  normally 'sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/MOUNTPointThatMustExistFirst04:20
SJrI installed kubuntu-desktop and then switched in the profile.04:20
ItsmeI am learning 'C' programming language. Which is the fastest 'C' Compiler on Ubuntu?04:20
mike3itsme - gcc04:20
ocmsi  u100  and ubuntu  what the heck happened that  it does not work in jaunty with wireless04:20
SJrItsme,  I believe the only C compiler is gcc04:20
mike3I need to hit somebody04:20
addchild314sjr: remove ubuntu-desktop?04:20
addchild314mike: please not me04:20
Dr_WillisItsme:  if you are just learning.. does it really matter? GCC is the standard for most linux's there are some others.04:21
Dunkelwhat is the mountpoint?04:21
mike3who cares, use gcc04:21
SJraddchild314,  dependancies are added as needed, not removed as not-needed.04:21
mike3somebody help me fix talk04:21
mike3I'm going to smash this thing04:21
FloodBot3mike3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:21
mike3ubuntu is stupid!04:21
ty_someone please help me test my server out04:21
IdleOne!enter mike304:21
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Dr_WillisSJr:  at the Login screen (kdm or gdm) theres a 'session' menu - you select kde or gnome from there.04:21
ty_Ubuntu is one of the best distros i have used04:21
ocis wireless better in the alpha04:22
DunkelDr_Willis did you see my lsusb result?04:22
ItsmeSJr: mike3:  Dr_Willis:  Which editor should I use with GCC?04:22
SJrDr_Willis,  I did that, and I'm running KDE right now, but I noticed alot of apps still use Gnome settings, and My desktop is gnome04:22
IdleOneDr_Willis, do you know if the realtime kernel ubuntu studio uses in 9.04 is available in repos ?04:22
SJrItsme,  there are a bunch, if you are just learning a simple text editor should be what you use.04:22
_MrsApple_im having alot of issues with my yahoo account. it seriously kills my computer... any reasons as to why?..04:22
chibihogoshinoi have my system setup how i like it and for the most part everything i use is installed and working ..04:22
Dr_WillisSJr:  that.. made no sence..  if you are running KDE then how id your desktop gnome?04:22
SJrDr_Willis,  I don't know04:22
Dr_WillisItsme:  use whatever editor you like. I like geany.04:22
chibihogoshinohow can i make a backup in it ALL so i can just restore it exactly how it is now04:23
koolkatcan anyone tell me what went wrong when I tried to burn this ISO twice?: http://pastebin.org/931404:23
SJrbut in KDE if I right click on the background, I'm getting gnome context menus04:23
IdleOne!clone | chibihogoshino04:23
ubottuchibihogoshino: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate04:23
Dr_WillisSJr:  you dident accidently run Nautilus some how did you?  that can goof things up.04:23
ty_well, bye04:23
IdleOnechibihogoshino, that wont save all your personal settings but it's a start04:23
Dr_WillisSJr:  perhaps make a new user and login to kde with them.. see if it uses kde or not.04:23
ty_is there a channel for irc servers?04:23
SJrDr_Willis,  that could have happened at some point in the past, I Believe that some file associations were broken.04:23
chibihogoshinoyeah.. thats what i want tho.. a image of the hard dink.04:24
RPG_MasterHow do I burn an iso... Through a live cd?04:24
Dr_WillisSJr:  ive seen that kde4 + gnome can cause some... issues if both used...04:24
SJrDr_Willis,  ah that was it, natalus was running04:24
RPG_MasterI go to eject the CD to put in a blank one and it gives me an error...04:24
TwoTwentyRPG_Master: the same way you do from the OS installed on your Harddrive04:24
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Dr_WillisSJr:  i recall speciciaally last i tried kde + gnome and xfce that the 'default tool to open special locations' keep getting confused.04:25
TwoTwentyRPG_Master:  so long as you have a spare CD-writer that the livecd is not in04:25
SJris there a way I can just scrap all of gnome04:25
EvelinaI have problem running Venus feed aggregator on Ubuntu Server 9.04. When I run the test script by sudo python runtests.py, the I get "segmentation fault" at the end. Why?04:25
Dr_WillisSJr:  gnome started launching the kde file manager,  or the xfce file manager for the gnome places -> whatever locations.04:25
koolkatcan anyone tell me what went wrong when I tried to burn this ISO twice?: http://pastebin.org/931404:25
ItsmeThank you for reply SJr and Dr_Willis.04:25
grzesit was droopy :D:D i found it04:25
Dr_WillisSJr:  then i fixed that.. kde started runnignthe gnome file manager for their special locations04:25
TwoTwentyRPG_Master: you cannot eject the live cd without loading the contents to RAM first... ubuntu livecd maybe a little large04:25
SJrYeah it's really annoying, and I hate gnome personally, I had to run it for a while because KDE sucked04:25
Dr_Williskoolkat:  i have found that burner tool to be a little. flakey. I gent to just use k3b04:26
RPG_MasterTwoTwenty: But I've done it before with only one drive! I just cant remember how I did it....04:26
EvelinaWhy do I get "segmentation fault" when I try to run Venus feed aggregator on Ubuntu Server 9.04?04:26
TwoTwentyRPG_Master: you have to load the disc to ram and then unmount it Im guessing04:26
Dr_WillisSJr:  did they do somthing to improve kde lately?   last i tried it.. i couldent stand to use it. :) which is why im now using gnome.04:26
RPG_MasterWhat's the command for that?04:26
ochow do i get wireless working with   my msi u10004:27
SJrDr_Willis,  it's gotten alot better since 4.0...04:27
snd_can anyone help me make a bootable usb image?04:27
snd_so LOST >_<04:27
TwoTwentyRPG: not certain its in the Ubuntu disk04:27
TwoTwentyRPG: I have done it with DSL livecd04:27
SJrI just despise gnome, but for dumb reasons, I hate the brown, it's UI feels like it was skinned in the 90's and like Linus' Law states: "You cannot claim that something is configurable, if there is no where to change the configuration"04:28
RPG_MasterTwoTwenty: I tried Puppy... it wouldn't boot :(04:28
TwoTwentySjr: gnome is not brown its blue in debian04:28
UberoffRPG_Master,  try crunchbang linux then04:28
SJrYeah but I run ubuntu04:28
TwoTwentyRPG:  can the computer boot USB04:28
chibihogoshinoso.. i cant make a clone image and save that to a external hd and them boot from a restore cd and then clone that to the new hd ?04:29
TwoTwentySjr: ubuntu made the brown not gnome04:29
TwoTwentySjr: they customized it04:29
phirestalkerI wiped my drive trying to troubleshoot boot problems, then I installed a fresh system and restored over that with a backup with sbackup, I am running this system now. after fixing the obvious problems of package discrepancies I am left with some dbus errors which I didn't notice before, so long story short, how do I reset dbus security to default settings?04:29
koolkatDr_Willis: I cant eject my DVD now since I tried to burn it. Is there anyway to do it without restarting?04:29
RPG_MasterTwoTwenty: I tried that awhile ago and it didn't work... I could try again though.04:29
SJrI know that but it still feels 'old'04:29
TwoTwentySjr: try using compiz04:29
SJrYeah I know, it still feels old04:29
Dr_WillisSJr:   i am constantly amazed at how all these 'new' innovations in gui 'research' and design.. really dont make things any easier.... :)04:30
SJrI've tried it, and that's a prime example of lack of configuration04:30
Blehk__Sjr, use E17.04:30
TwoTwentySjr: and playing with the themes, if you want the vista look go for KDE.. I like the clean dynamic interface of gnome personally04:30
vossSJr, my gnome is blue04:30
Dr_WillisE17 - the windowmanager/desktop that re-invents itself every 3 years.04:30
TwoTwentySjr: feels old is in the head04:30
Dr_WillisMy gnome is Hot Pink - with a Hello Kitty Icon theme. :)04:30
jmiteDoes anybody know of a command to query what window manager x is using? I'm trying to write a script to switch to compiz if xfwm is running, and vice versa04:30
BerzerkerDr_Willis, it would be04:31
UberoffI prefer the clean dynamic interface of openbox, personally. I find gnome repugnant in the extreme.04:31
vossDr_willis, thats is really sad ;-)04:31
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BerzerkerUberoff, openbox?04:31
Dr_Willisjmite:  ive never seen sich a command. thers just too many different windowmanaagers..04:31
TwoTwentyUberoff: lol04:31
Dunkeli am trying thi sudo mount /mnt/sda104:31
chibihogoshinook.. partimage will do what i want .. if any one else asks .. yay...        http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage04:31
Dunkeland i cant get it works04:31
Uberoffbut live and let live, I say ;)04:31
vossAt least gnome doesnt have that retarded little foot anymore04:31
koolkatDr_Willis: I cant eject my DVD now since I tried to burn it. Is there anyway to do it without restarting?04:32
UberoffBerzerker, openbox is a lightweight wm04:32
jmitedr willis: okay, thanks!04:32
Dr_Williskoolkat:  try the eject command?04:32
UberoffBerzerker, window manager. It's the only wm i use anymore04:32
BerzerkerUberoff, looks interesting.04:32
BerzerkerUberoff, would you mind helping me get it setup on my comp?04:32
koolkatDr_Willis: how does that work?04:33
vossKDE lost me at 4.0.04:33
UberoffBerzerker, well, to tell you the truth, it's the kind of window manager that if you can't install and configure it yourself, your probably better off using a "bigger" wm. Or maybe even XFCE4 or something04:33
BerzerkerUberoff, what's so different about it?04:34
nevynvoss: 4.x is awesome the 4.0 "release" was aweful04:34
TwoTwentyKDE   lost me in 1999 but it seems to have great features04:34
GuidMorrowthese windows jiggle like jell-o04:34
RPG_MasterActually I burned in Ubuntu CD through a Linux Mint Live CD04:34
koolkatcan window managers be change at any time?04:35
UberoffBerzerker,  install it and see. You can switch between wm's when ubuntu boots04:35
RPG_MasterI tried it again and it now gives me an error message...04:35
vossnev, I hate to say it, but gnome is "good enough" now04:35
TwoTwentyRPG_Master: I think loading it into ram is a boottime option04:35
UberoffBerzerker,  "sudo apt-get install openbox" I imagine04:35
koolkatDr_Willis: how does that work?04:35
EvelinaHow do I run planet-venus after installing it on Ubuntu Server?04:35
TwoTwentyRPG_Master: reboot and type help or hit the f keys for more possible boot time options04:35
Dr_Williskoolkat:  short answer 'yes' - long answer.. it can be done.. and can be simple or complex.04:35
Dr_Williskoolkat:  how does what work?04:35
LunaticHyendoes anyone know much about ffmpeg?04:35
koolkatDr_Willis: the eject command04:35
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  i know i spent an hr+ reading its faq/docs the other day to discover the exact answer to a question i had about it. :)04:36
BerzerkerUberoff, then just log out and switch VMs?04:36
RPG_MasterIs this possible... when Grub is giving me Error 22?04:36
RPG_MasterI need to burn The Super Grub Disc :P04:36
Dr_Williskoolkat:  it sends some command to the kernel to eject the cd. :)04:36
UberoffBerzerker, yeah. It's WMs (Window Managers)04:36
Berzerkerok. thanks04:36
GuidMorrowxchat is using up 18MB memory, how do I reduce memory usage04:36
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  you are worried about 18mb of memory?04:37
addchild314RPG: its giving you err 22?04:37
koolkatDr_Willis: so you just types eject and it alrady knows to eject the CD?04:37
Dr_Williskoolkat:  thats the default options for it. it has other options04:37
RPG_Masteraddchild314: Yep...04:37
Dr_Williskoolkat:  ive seen it ised in 'server room banks' to identify a machine. :) ssh to the server ya want to find on the physical rack.. and do eject.. it opens its cd tray. :P04:38
addchild314rpg: whats the story behind your problem? in brief?04:38
LunaticHyenDr_Willis: i'm trying to get it to convert a file to theora, but it says there's no such thing as libtheora, even though the docs say that's how to do it, it works when I do 'ffmpeg -i file.mpg file.ogv'04:38
UberoffBerzerker,  chances are you won't like it at first. Most ppl don't. I probably didn't. As you get more experienced with *nix it grows on you04:38
vossguid, you can always use ircii its text based04:38
koolkatdR_Willis: it didn't work04:38
addchild314dr_willis: ive also seen it used as the most epic reset switch ever04:38
koolkatDr_Willis: it didn't work04:38
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  some versions of ffmpeg for ubuntu may or may not have all the  file codecs/types compiled in. You want to convert TO theora.. hmm..04:39
RPG_Masteraddchild314: Today I deleted a 6gig Kubuntu partition and allocated that to my Ubuntu partition... Also, some moving to the left of the disk was involve :|04:39
BerzerkerUberoff, lol you said lightweight. you weren't kidding.04:39
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  you did install    libtheora0 - The Theora Video Compression Codec04:39
Berzerkerno thank you sir.04:40
BerzerkerGuidMorrow, 17804:40
BerzerkerGuidMorrow, 18MB*? that's not that much04:40
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GuidMorrowturned off window effects04:40
Uberofflol. Like I said. The more experience you have, the more useful openbox (or any *box) is04:40
koolkatUberoff: you talking about xfce?04:40
ZettaOkay, I'm trying to install Ubuntu, obviously (9.04, 32-bit), but I've been unable to get it to load properly. When I burnt the iso to a CD, it didn't recognize it, and when I tried creating a bootable thumbdrive, it refused to boot and my BIOS said "boot error". The MD5 hash is right, though. What am I doing wrong?04:40
gaintsuraah... the joy of going through the issue resolving with ubuntu begins again on a totally different system...04:41
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  let me try your command...04:41
Uberoffkoolkat, no.04:41
GuidMorrow!burn | Zetta04:41
ubottuZetta: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto04:41
Berzerkerwill sudo apt-get installing kde work with gnome, so I can switch back and forth?04:41
addchild314rpg: hmm...04:41
RPG_Masteraddchild314: hmm indeed....04:42
gaintsuraDuring updates, /var/lob/scrollkeeper/es/scrollkeeper_cl.xml:781 : parser error : opening and ending tag mismatch sect line 488 and ScrollKeeperContentsList <- Is it really as simple as finding the mismatch tags and fixing them? on 8.0404:42
ZettaMkay. Thanks, I'll try one of those and see if that resolves the issue.04:42
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  it seems to be working here.04:42
BerzerkerZetta, if you have access to a windows computer, it would be easier.04:43
TwoTwentyRPG_master:   use live cd backup on USB HDD and  reinstall04:43
addchild314rpg: i think its looking for a partition that isnt there anymore04:43
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  i may be using the ffmpeg from the medibuntu repositories - its version is --> FFmpeg version 0.5-svn17737+3:0.svn20090303-1ubuntu6, C04:43
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  and i just instelled that libtheora package also.04:43
addchild314dr_willis: wha?04:43
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  im getting confused - :) who was it with the theora vonvertion issue? :)04:43
ZettaBerzerker: I do, yes. I used InfraRecorder last time, but I'm guessing it didn't work.04:43
Dr_Willisi cant scroll UP fast enough to read the history buffer...04:44
BerzerkerZetta, try unetbootin04:44
Berzerker!unetbootin | Zedde04:44
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  there we go. :) i got it working here.04:44
ubottuZedde: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:44
TwoTwentyRPG_:  you still there,  you can point grub to a partition that contains the kernel if you know how its mapped04:44
TwoTwentylike hd0,004:44
Berzerker!unetbootin | Zetta04:44
ubottuZetta: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:44
addchild314Doc: nope. not me04:44
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  ffmpeg from medibuntu  and the libtheora package worked here.04:44
Dr_Willisaddchild314:  shame on you :)04:45
ZettaAgain, tried that before, but it didn't work. It gave me "boot error" on trying to boot from the thumbdrive.04:45
Dr_WillisLunaticHyen:  check versionof your ffmpeg --> FFmpeg version 0.5-svn17737+3:0.svn20090303-1ubuntu6  is what i have here.04:45
michael1Hi folks, where's the right place to go to get help on making my Wifi work? (Ubuntu 9.04, ThinkPad X31, Atheros 5211 chipset) I'm experienced with PCs but a Linux beginner. Any help appreciated.04:46
gaintsuramichael1: ndiswrapper or madwifi :)04:47
michael1gaintsura: not sure how to properly enable madwifi. (I know of madwifi only because I googled my problem). I "activated" it in the "Hardware Drivers" panel and rebooted, no luck04:50
dsdeiz_hello, what's the difference of pcm and master?04:50
RPG_MasterTwoTwenty: How do I go about doing that?04:50
smacktalkanyone have a how to on setting up vnc between two vboxed ubuntu clients?04:50
Dr_Willissmacktalk:  check their ip's and the vbox network settings. You can set them up on theor own private 'vrtual' lan. or on the host lan.04:51
smacktalkI have the ip's and the vbox's are set up as bridged04:52
smacktalkI can ping...just can't do vnc04:52
Dr_Willis'bridged' ? Hmm virtualbox settings ehre (on ubutnu) are NAT/host Interface/ or Internal network04:52
collinm140i need some help04:53
collinm140im kind of new to linux04:53
gaintsuramichael1: hold on, is that an Atheros AR5007EG ?04:53
damo22which package do i get if i want to compile my own kernel for ubuntu 8.0404:53
Dr_Willissmacktalk:  One of those make the vbox machine appear on the local lan as if it was a 'real' machine.04:53
IdleOnecollinm140, ask away and someone will help if they can04:53
EvelinaHow do I which command I'll have to use?04:53
Dr_Willissmacktalk:  the internal - is just for vbox to vbox machines (i think)04:53
phirestalkerI wiped my drive trying to troubleshoot boot problems, then I installed a fresh system and restored over that with a backup with sbackup, I am running this system now. after fixing the obvious problems of package discrepancies I am left with some dbus errors which I didn't notice before, so long story short, how do I reset dbus security to default settings?04:53
loserbarhey everyone04:53
ZettaOkay, I reinstalled Ubuntu onto my thumb drive using unetbootin, and when I try to boot from the drive, it says "Boot error" and just waits. If I take out the drive, bootup proceeds into windows.04:53
collinm140can someone tell me how to get steam on this04:54
EvelinaHow can I fin what command I'll have to use to run planet-venus?04:54
smacktalkDr_Willis: the internal?04:54
loserbarim using jaunty with gnome and im looking for an easy to use program that can send files over a local network. samba is not an option here04:54
Dr_Willissmacktalk:   you may want to check teh virtualbox docs for the specifics.. (going form memory here) Internal (used by 2 vbox instances to allow testing of a safe network)04:55
loserbarcould anyone help me out with this please?04:55
collinm140how do i get steam on ubuntu04:55
michael1gaintsura: Atheros 5211 according to dmesg output from a device called wifi004:55
Dr_Willissmacktalk:  'nat' the vbox machine will have a ip  that is "natt'ed' to the outside world04:55
collinm140i dont have volume control04:56
collinm140wats the problem04:56
ZettaOh, lovely. I've even managed to stump the guys in the support channel. XD04:56
Dr_WillisZetta:  booting from usb - has always been quirky04:57
collinm140id reccomend using an iso04:57
collinm140thats what i did04:57
Dr_WillisZetta:  theres no 'sure' thing. its often a issue of the drive/pc bios/phase of the moon.04:57
collinm140if ur looking for unr04:57
collinm140just look it up04:57
Dr_WillisZetta:  try the flash drive in other machines.  see if it works there.04:57
bazhang!enter | collinm14004:58
ubottucollinm140: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:58
collinm140try the iso04:58
ZettaDr_Willis: Worth a shot, I suppose. I'll report back momentarily.04:58
collinm140does anyone on here know how i can install steam on ubuntu04:59
Berzerker!steam | collinm14004:59
ubottucollinm140: Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/04:59
gaintsuramichael1: this is for ubuntu 7, however it should still follow the same idea... http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/04:59
Dr_Williscollinm140:  i just got the steam installer.exe and ran 'wine whatever.exe' i recall04:59
Dr_Willis!appdb | collinm14004:59
ubottucollinm140: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help04:59
Dr_Williscollinm140:  i have the steam client working with a few bugs..  but the spefifc games.. can be very quirky05:00
Berzerkerhow do I uninstall kde?05:00
Berzerkersudo apt-get remove kde?05:00
bpZetta:  I had bad luck with unetbootin also.  There are other programs out there to do the same.  I am currently running sidux off of usb because the installation went flawlessly from the disk image.05:00
Dr_Willis!puregnome | Berzerker05:00
ubottuBerzerker: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal05:00
michael1gaintsura: oh my goodness i made a gigantic user error. my wifi was set to only do G and N, but not B which is the only thing this machine can. thanks for your help though. too bad the error message was so helpful... NOT ;-)05:02
cellofellow!es | josh_05:02
ubottujosh_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:02
josh_ubottu: gracias. thanks :)05:03
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:03
phirestalkeris there a way to reset the security settings of dbus?05:06
oldude67phirestalker, just a dumb question are you in the dbus group?05:10
dsdeiz_in laptops, what do you call the keys which can trigger event by touching them?05:11
jetsaredimanyone know of a jaunty package for usb-creator05:12
nsahoothinking of making the ubuntu computer at home double up as a home server. i'll still work on it, but, hoping to use it to stream media from it to the laptop connected to tv, print from the laptop to the printer connected to the server etc. Is there a guide to this?05:13
MicronXDhi all!05:13
dsdeiz_anyone? :D05:13
phirestalkeroldude67, I don't see a dbus group, I see a messagebus group, but noone is a member of that05:13
buckyphirestalker oldude67 there's a plugdev group  type groups as user05:14
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  most every linux distro can handle server tasks. :)05:14
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  i use my ubuntu desktop to doo most all teh stuff you mentioned.05:15
nsahooDr_Willis: sure, I am not sure what all server programs I need and how to set it up05:15
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  pick a service.. research it..  do it. :)05:15
oldude67i was just googling around to see if there was an answer for you phirestalker05:15
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  for sharing files withwindows machines, thats 'samba'05:15
buckyjetsaredim: theres usb-creator and a usb-imagewriter in the repos and a http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/05:15
jetsaredimnsahoo: depends on what you want to do with it05:15
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  samba and cups - also used for shareing printers.05:15
phirestalkeroldude67,  I don't even see a group called plugdev is my system that messed up?05:15
nsahooDr_Willis: Yes. I can use samba, but, what about upnp?05:15
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  there are sone uPNP servers for ubuntu also.. but ive never tried them. I just access the videos 'share' normally05:16
phirestalkeroldude67, oh well I have tried googling a bit, I'm having trouble getting the right terms to narrow it down05:16
ubottuTo stream media to other UPNP aware devices (such as the Xbox, PS3, or iRadio) you need a UPNP server. See !info mediatomb for information regarding the MediaTomb package05:16
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buckyphirestalker: adduser <username> plugdev and log out and back in again to make it effective.. then you can plug usb devices in05:16
jplankhas anyone gotten pptpd up and running?05:16
kiran_join /#ubuntu05:17
nsahooDr_Willis: laptop runs vista home premium with media center, I think it plays well with upnp, but, there was some security issues with upnp from what I heard05:17
jplankI can't seem to get it working05:17
bazhang!br | hian_05:17
nsahoo!info mediatomb05:17
ubottuhian_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.05:17
ubottumediatomb (source: mediatomb): UPnP MediaServer (main package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-3ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 17 kB, installed size 96 kB05:17
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  last i checked into upnp - it was full of issues.. and Windows was the cause of a lot of them. :)05:17
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  so as i said.. i just play videos from the samba share i got set to share all my 'videos'  - much easier to get going05:17
kiran_can anyone suggest where can i get xbmc media centre05:17
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Dr_Williskiran_:  its in the repos i thoiught.. and has its own homepage/livecd version/downloads05:18
Dr_Willisguess he dident want to know05:18
nsahooDr_Willis: that way you just deal with one server. But, when you play a 1.5 GB file say, does it need to transfer the whole thing?05:18
Dr_WillisHmm.. where did i find that xbmc repo/binary at..05:18
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  no.05:18
phirestalkerbucky, it's not a usb device problem it is just errors showing up in my auth.log, which I suspect is the reason that tomboy always has some error attaching to the panel at startup, among other small issues05:19
nsahooDr_Willis: so, it streams, so to speak05:19
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  you see that with some dumb file managers under linux at times. :)  but  no it does not copy then play under most cases05:19
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  it 'sends' :) and playas as it gets.05:19
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  wife watches videos like that all the time on her windows box.05:19
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  this way she can make playlists and other tricks with the file manager.05:20
nsahooDr_Willis: cool05:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xbmc05:20
nickrudDr_Willis, http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step (interesting!)05:20
oldude67phirestalker, what was you doing before you got these errors? or what has caused them?05:20
nsahooDr_Willis: so, you are saying I'll just setup samba and should be all good. I can set up cups for printer sharing later .. and most functionalities are there05:20
phirestalkerok there is something wrong with my users and groups program, root isn't checked off in the root group05:21
buckyphirestalker: could this be the problem?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/tomboy/+bug/34516605:21
phirestalkerbucky, oldude67, it seems that my problem is bigger than I thought?05:21
* tak11 is away: Eating a Banana, gtfo05:21
kr1they yall05:22
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  cups is allready intalled and im pretty sure it allready shares the printers by default05:22
phirestalkerbucky, oldude67, no groups have users checked off in them, although that can't really be true05:22
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  cups and samba work together i think  to let windows box's print05:22
nsahooDr_Willis: I am using the desktop version, not the server one05:22
bazhang!away > tak1105:22
ubottutak11, please see my private message05:22
buckyphirestalker: i think i found it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62890905:22
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  it does NOT matter.05:22
nsahooDr_Willis: ok05:22
Dr_Willisnsahoo:  the desktop version can work as a server. :) and cups is used on the desktop also05:23
nsahooDr_Willis: sure, it's just that I was not sure cups was already installed05:23
nsahooDr_Willis: ok05:23
kr1tHey anybody here know much about getting MTP players to transfer with Amarok? Bit of a strange problem...never had before05:23
oldude67phirestalker, have you tried adding yourself to some of the groups you need?05:24
buckyphirestalker: Essentially, edit the tomboy menu item and get rid of the --search argument05:24
phirestalkerbucky, well it will start up just fine, it's just the panel applet doesn't want to work on startup, but if I add the applet again after startup it will work05:24
nsahoois there any advantage to freenas then? if you have more than a minimal hardware computer?05:24
phirestalkerbucky, you mean for the applet on the panel? how do I do that?05:26
phirestalkeroldude67, well I'm not sure I want to do it graphically since it isn't showing accurate info, so what was the command again?05:26
dj9404HOW TO I GET RID OF GNOME AND go on kde i DL the stuff how to i swich?05:27
mneptokdj9404: start by turning off the <capslock>05:27
bastidrazor!purekde | dj940405:27
ubottudj9404: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »05:27
dj9404My english is no great05:28
Dr_Willisinstalling stuff is easy.. getting it off.. can be harder..05:28
kr1tMy problem is that when I start to transfer files through Amarok (11 gB +) The status bar appears at the bottom of the window...but then abruptly disappears while sitting at 0%.05:28
oldude67dj9404, try logging out switching to kde and then logging back in.05:28
kr1tWhen I watch in Console...I see no glaring errors05:28
kr1tgranted that it scrolls past uber fast while it is sitting at 0% of the transfer bar05:29
GuidMorrowyou know what ...?05:29
GuidMorrowscrew this virtual console stuff, I'm thinking about stuffing this windows xp disc in the shredder05:29
phirestalkerbucky, nm I read the site you gave me I see what you meant, but that isn't what is happening for me05:29
oldude67GuidMorrow, dont do that run a ribbon threw it and hang it on the xmas tree..:D05:30
Dr_Willisstick the cd in the microwave.. toast for 4 min.. enjoy05:30
dsdeiz_anyone able to get the acer multimediakeys functioning?05:30
GuidMorrownot in the brand new microwave!05:30
kr1tdont waste the microwave on the xp cd05:30
nickrudbe sure to put a paper towel on it to prevent splatters05:31
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  the 'work' microwave at the office.05:31
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  acer makes a lot of lpaotps/desktops/machines...05:31
buckyphirestalker: what is the error in auth.log ?  google it?05:31
phirestalkeroh... so that's why the other building at works microwave doesn't work anymore :O05:31
Dr_Willisphirestalker:  dident harm it at all. :)05:31
Dr_Willisphirestalker:  had to do somthing with all those aol cd's05:32
kr1tThe CD looks really epic....but it really is harmful to the microwave05:32
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: the laptop touchpads i think05:32
nickrudhttp://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/05/06/fish-made-out-of-cds_xXTMM_23302.jpg < -- good use for xp disks, used to know artist that did this with those aol disks05:32
GuidMorrowfor one thing, I was hoping to install a SATA HDD and install windows 7 on that and dual boot05:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sata05:32
phirestalkerDr_Willis, I don't even get those anymore, I wonder if the news story a year or so ago about them filling the landfill made them stop sending so much05:33
Ben64put a glass of water in with the cd05:33
Ben64makes it safe for microwave05:33
dj9404how to remove FOR 9.04 - I went to this link and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE05:33
kr1tProblems with transferring files from ubuntu to MTP Device with Amarok. Status bar appears but then goes away...without transferring the files.05:33
phirestalkerRejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=6049 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.985" (uid=0 pid=23670 comm="/USR/SBIN/CRON "))05:33
addchild314g'nite guys. dont forget to sleep at some point (in accordance with local time zones)05:34
phirestalkerbucky, Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=6049 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.985" (uid=0 pid=23670 comm="/USR/SBIN/CRON "))05:34
phirestalkerbucky, that's the message05:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat05:34
dsdeiz_!info xchat05:34
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2.1ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 311 kB, installed size 840 kB05:34
GuidMorrow!help xchat05:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about help xchat05:34
phirestalkerbucky, I believe there were others, I will look through my logs again05:34
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  i dual boot sata disks all the time..  gotta be carefull when using IDE and sata disks.05:34
kr1tI am guessing nobody knows much about mtp/this problem :(05:35
GuidMorrowhow do I turn off chat logging in XChat05:35
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  its in the menus  or right click on the channel tab perhaps?05:35
dsdeiz_oh i forgot to mention that mplayer recognizes them but triggers the wrong commands05:35
oldude67GuidMorrow, settings preferneces05:35
dsdeiz_e.g. 'stop' sign forwards the movie05:35
oldude67preferences even ugh05:35
bucky!info dmraid05:36
ubottudmraid (source: dmraid): Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc15-6ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB05:36
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  there are the gnome settings to redefind what keys do what special functions. perhaps remap them05:36
Dr_Willissystem -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts05:36
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: oh sorry. i'm not using gnome05:37
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  Oh- the-Huge-manatee! :P05:37
oldude67dsdeiz_, what are you using lol...:D05:37
GuidMorrowI don't have "log conversations" checked05:37
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  theres also ways to remap specific keys to  the proper XF86_WHATEVER events05:38
chriss8Some help? Is there a way to completely rewrite everything on a netbook with ubuntu? I'm currently dualbooting ubuntu and XP, and I'd like it if I could start over and just have a brand new ubuntu.05:38
dsdeiz_oldude67: me? just a window manager.. :(05:38
phirestalkerDr_Willis, did you ever see that joke howto website for burning cds that included a toaster? lol05:38
Dr_Willischriss8:  just format the ubuntu partitions when you reinstall ubuntu.05:38
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: like xmodmap?05:38
arlesliechriss8, just reformat the harddrive05:38
oldude67chriss8, ya put the disk in and tell it to use the whole disk05:38
GuidMorrowstill, why is the last 1024 lines of chat loaded when xchat loads05:38
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  yep - i had to play with that for an IBM keyboard i had.05:38
oldude67GuidMorrow, hold on i remember seeing that.05:39
buckyphirestalker: according to google you need to be a member of the powerdev group  ..I think http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=51293605:39
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  history buffer? does it really matter? :) hit F1 check teh xcaht help docs?05:39
Dr_Willislogging is different from a history/saved buffer perhaps?05:39
chriss8Dr_Willis, arleslie, oldude67:Format the hard drive? So do I just plug in a ubuntu USB, boot from that and install?05:39
oldude67GuidMorrow, its under logging just get rid of display scroll back05:39
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: btw, xev also recognizes it but displays really weird outputs not like keyboard events05:39
Dr_Willischriss8:  thats how i install ubuntu on my netbook.,05:39
buckyphirestalker: here's another reference to it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/35958605:40
arlesliechriss8, yes thats correct05:40
chriss8Also, an unrelated question, should I use the desktop edition, or the netbook edition? I like the layout and look of the desktop edition more, but I've heard you can modify the netbook edition to look like the desktop one. Which would you suggest? (I have an eee pc 1005HA netbook)05:41
gvsa123i have a portable hd that i hook up to ubuntu via usb... it is possible to make this a shared folder so that i can access it via samba from windows right?05:41
apoleo12heya... before i do some grub repair.. there's soemthing I wanna clarify something here. the grub according to the menu.lst is pointing at h2,4 but according to windows disk managment; linux is on the third drive on a first partition05:41
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  i had to add some proper commands to  rc.local to get the xev keys seen/used right.. so i could remap them05:41
arlesliechriss8, either one is perfectly fine, the desktop doesn't support usb install unless you get a thirdparty program to do that05:41
apoleo12there's an image I snapshot of ity and wanna show one of youse...05:41
arlesliechriss8, I would recommend the netbook remix, and you can make it look like the desktop05:42
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  my script for my old IBM keyboard.05:42
Dr_Willis pastebinit  /etc/setkeycodes.sh05:42
chriss8arleslie: Yeah, I've done it with unet bootin. Is there a guide you can link me to to make the netbook remix into the desktop theme?05:42
apoleo12hey arleslie ;)05:42
buckyphirestalker: wait a minute... how about this http://v2kblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/dbus-daemon-rejected-send-message.html05:42
arlesliechriss8, to do the desktop theme, go to System > Administation and click switch to Desktop Version05:43
arleslieapoleo12, hey05:43
* tak11 is back (gone 00:21:42)05:43
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: er, too deep for me.. hehehe i'll just let these dang multimedia keys pass for now :D05:43
Dr_Willischriss8:  i install the ubuntu-desktop package then use the settings tool to tell it to not use the UNR interface.05:43
buckychriss8: apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings  and  ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings05:44
chriss8arleslie: Oh. That wa ssimple. Thanks.05:44
arleslieDr_Willis, he doesn't have to install the ubuntu-desktop package05:44
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  took me some time. Most of that file is comments. i had to figure out what keys were what.. and remap them to the right XF86xxxxxxxx05:44
buckychriss8: and netbook-launcher too05:44
Dr_Willisif not using  the UNR. i found things lacking  without ubuntu-desktop :)05:44
phirestalkerbucky, that bug report on launchpad seems to have the exact error message so there is that issue most likely05:44
buckyphirestalker: looks like it05:44
apoleo12arleslie: before i do some grub repair.. there's soemthing I wanna clarify something here. the grub according to the menu.lst is pointing at h2,4 but according to windows disk managment; linux is on the third drive on a first partition05:45
phirestalkerbucky, I'll keep an eye on the bug report05:45
Dr_Willisthe UNR is neat in ways.. and VERy annoying in others.05:45
kavurtchriss8, there's a button under preferences, "switch desktop mode" just use that05:45
apoleo12I dont expect ya to remember my plm.. but does that refresh it?05:45
chriss8Okay, I'm confused. Should I get the netbook edition, or the desktop one? Or is there no real difference, and it's just a matter of preference?05:45
buckyphirestalker: try the fix.. back up the file like in the example and edit it05:45
Dr_Willischriss8:  what is your netbook? i use the netbook edition on my AAO05:45
arleslieapoleo12, then where it says hd (0,1) it should be hd (3,1)05:45
chriss8Dr_Willis: eee pc 1005HA05:45
Dr_Willischriss8:  check the forums for how well the EEE stuff is supported  there are some EEE specific  ubuntu variants also05:46
GuidMorrowcannot execute: " its under logging just get rid of display scroll back"05:46
arleslieapoleo12, I remember it05:46
arleslie!dualboot | apoleo1205:46
ubottuapoleo12: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot05:46
apoleo12arleslie: im gomnna go in to liveCD to do ggrub editing after i finish reading the links I got from you05:47
arleslieapoleo12, ^^ theres the links you need05:47
* GuidMorrow . o O Syntax error05:47
apoleo12mine isn't a mac..05:47
oldude67GuidMorrow, how did you break irc? lmao05:47
stagerwhats a good distro for clustering web servers?05:48
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: can you take a quick peak on a xev output? :S05:48
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  most of mine just showed unknown keycode use.. whatever.. to set it...05:48
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  but i can try :P05:49
apoleo12arleslie: tho it's strange that windows disk management tells me differently... which it should be hd2,0 but not hd2,405:49
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: thanks!05:49
arleslieapoleo12, x86/AMD64 is the link you wanted05:49
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m79c58ad505:49
arleslieapoleo12, what does Windows Disk Management say05:49
dsdeiz_for now i only know how to set buttons :(05:49
apoleo12how can I show you? I have it snap shot...05:50
GuidMorrowdoes ubuntu support raid functions or nfs05:50
dsdeiz_btw, on keyboards i use keysym.. but on these buttons i can't seem to find them05:51
snd_hey woulda nyone kno how I would access a usb drive plugged into my ubuntu box on a virtualbox of vista?05:51
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  means very little to me.. I had keys thet the kernel dident even recognize. so my issue wa a bit different.05:51
snd_like in VIsta's cd cmd05:51
Dr_Willisdsdeiz_:  i followed the rather old guide at --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys05:52
dsdeiz_Dr_Willis: oh ok.. got it. will read it now05:52
Dr_Willissnd_:  virtualbox fromt he repos can Not access real 'usb' drives.. the version from the virtualbox homepage CAN if you configure it to do so.05:52
Dr_Willissnd_:  if you set it all up right.. it will show up as if it was plugged into a normal windows machine. (ie: have a g: letter)05:53
JimmyHey im trying to use a live cd but when Ubuntu 9.04 boots i can't use my keyboard or mouse. Any help please?05:54
chriss8Is the "aternat05:54
Dr_Willissnd_:  alterantively - You can set up a 'share' on the usb drive and let windows in vb. access it as a 'share/network neighborhood place'05:54
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:54
chriss8Is the "alternate" torrent from www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors the netbook edition?05:54
Dr_Willissnd_:  or a 3rd way. virtualbox can have its own special virtualbox share. that windows can access IF you install the virtualbox guest addations.05:54
Dr_Willischriss8:  no.. theres a UNR edition thats a .img file.05:54
Dr_Willischriss8:  img - you copy it properly to a flash drive.05:54
Dr_Willischriss8:  alt edition = alternative text type installer.05:55
GuidMorrowwhy is the application "preferences" menu always under the "edit" menu?05:56
chriss8Dr_Willis: Ooh, okay. Thanks.05:56
GuidMorrowlooks like we're not in Kansas anymore05:57
JimmyMy keyboard and mouse don't work when i load ubuntu 9.04. Any help?05:57
DPicwhy is the "Add" button greyed out under the VPN tab of the connection manager?05:58
DPici'm trying to connect using my new IPREDator account =]05:58
ubottuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD05:58
googeekjimmy: what kind are they?05:58
Jimmylogitech wired mx310 mouse05:59
Jimmyand some acer keyboard05:59
Jimmyboth usb05:59
buckyGuidMorrow: you mean the  application "preferences" menu always under the "edit" menu in FireFox05:59
GuidMorrowusually the option falls under the "tools" menu05:59
Jimmythey work fine under vista and install menu of ubuntu05:59
googeekJimmy: weird. Mines a logitech wireless, and it works05:59
oldude67Jimmy, run lsusb and see if it is loaded.06:00
GuidMorrowI have a logitech wireless desktop EX10006:00
Jimmyrun lsusb in installer? or ubuntu itself?06:00
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent06:00
GuidMorrowubottu they meant usb keyboard/mice06:01
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:01
oldude67jimmy ugh guess you cant do that if the keyboard isnt working..lmao06:01
Jimmyyeah so am i stuck with vista?06:01
buckyjimmy did you recompile your own kernel or something?06:01
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts06:02
Jimmyidk how to do that? is that under install options06:02
oldude67Jimmy, but keyboard and mouse worked to load ubuntu?06:02
GuidMorrowis this upon installing ubuntu or loading the live CD06:02
googeekjimmy: Do you have a port keyboard and mouse to try?06:03
googeekjimmy: I don't know much about ubuntu just yet, but I'm guessing you're missing something you need, A port would most likely work for sure06:03
Jimmyyeah it let me select "instal ubuntu without changing harddrive....sumthing"06:03
kelly_hey how do i install bogfilter06:03
Jimmythen it stops when loading ubuntu06:03
googeekDoes anyone know why my visual effects wont enable, even though nvidia seems to be working other than that?06:03
GuidMorrowthere is a little known setting in BIOS called "Legacy USB support" ... if you can get in there and turn it on you might be able to use your setup06:04
Jimmyk ill try that.06:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bios06:05
error404notfoundcan i force programs to open in a certain workspace? like evolution in 2nd workspace and thunderbird in first06:05
* GuidMorrow . o O wait ... does he know what key to get into bios with06:06
oldude67GuidMorrow, dont matter hes gone..lol06:06
spOhow do i force someone out, ie reduce their shells to nothing, ie how do i get them out of my system, ie how do i log them out?06:06
GuidMorrow!hi | nightingale06:07
ubottunightingale: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:07
spOhow do i force log another user out?06:07
kelly_hey i am trying to install bogfilter i have tried apt-get install bogfilter06:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bogfilter06:08
* donkehofdarkness slaps macd_ 06:08
GuidMorrowwhat is that?06:08
* GuidMorrow pounds ubottu with a giant fist06:09
arleslie!find bogfilter | kelly_06:09
ClayGhow do I access my trashcan from x?06:09
ubottukelly_: Package/file bogfilter does not exist in jaunty06:09
SealedWithAKissStrange question, would a standard inkjet orl laser printer print onto toilet paper? I don't have a printer so can't test this to find out!06:09
arleslieGuidMorrow, to find package information use !find <package name>06:09
arleslie!offtopic SealedWithAKiss06:10
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:10
Dr_WillisSealedWithAKiss:  i hope you got some good quality T.P. :) cheap stuff..i doubt it...06:10
GuidMorrowkelly_: That package might be used in another Linux distro06:10
Dr_WillisSealedWithAKiss:  and the ink will proberly print all fuzzy06:10
arleslie!ot | SealedWithAKiss06:10
ubottuSealedWithAKiss: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!06:10
spOdoes apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop  remove all DESKTOP and all its apps?  I want to remove desktop and all its apps06:11
SealedWithAKissarleslie, such a fun sponge.06:12
obxWhy does it take so long to resize a hd ugh.06:12
Dr_WillisspO:  no. thats a 'meta package' removing that package will in fact.. remove.. not much of anything06:12
donkehofdarknesspretty sure it does06:12
arleslieSealedWithAKiss, I just follow rules06:12
obxis it easier partioning while installing, or doing it before you install?06:12
Dr_Willisobx:  windows  can resize ntfs MUCH faster then the linux tools do.06:12
SealedWithAKissarleslie, follow them or enforce them?06:12
arleslieSealedWithAKiss, well both06:12
Dr_Willisobx:  like 4x+ faster.06:12
obxbut how do you resize in windows if the hd is being used D:06:13
Dr_Willisobx:  no idea how it works.. but it did for me :)06:13
Dr_Willisobx:  black magic?06:13
obxi figured voodoo had a part of it06:13
SealedWithAKissarleslie, relax. Sounds as though you need somebody to go OT in here once in a while to mix things up. Unless your aware of a toilet paper printing channel?06:13
spOhow can i remove all of desktop related things in ubuntu?06:13
thelostfaithIs there the possibility of having different backgrounds for each panel?06:14
bazhangSealedWithAKiss, take chat elsewhere06:14
arleslieDr_Willis, Windows uses DOS to format, if you want to do a full format it takes forever but it does quick formats 4x faster. I would recommend on using the ubuntu formater or gParted06:14
Dr_Willisarleslie:  he asked about resuzing.06:14
obxI'm using parted to resize06:14
obxbut it sure is taking a long time :(06:14
arleslieobx, gParted usally doesn't take more then 10 mintues to resize06:15
Dr_Willisobx:  yes.. gparted reszing is a lot slower then booting to windows and lettting windows resize it.06:15
obxyeah this has been going on for 13 >>06:15
Dr_Willisobx:  you are resizing a ntfs right?06:15
thelostfaithIt took me about 10 minutes to partition 1tb06:15
donkehofdarknessit's usually better to delete ntfs06:15
obxam i doing it wrong D:?06:15
arleslieDr_Willis, well then idk why gParted is so quick on my machine, it only took 30 minutes to create and format 3 partitions and then setting the flags06:15
Dr_Willisarleslie:  create/formating is not the same as 'resizing' a partition and keeping the existing data06:16
arleslieDr_Willis, I've resized partitions also and it took less then 3 minutes06:17
obxmy computer is just a big dumb?06:17
Dr_Willisarleslie:  go try resizing a 1tb partition thats 90% full... and  take a nap.06:17
Gneaarleslie: have your ead this? http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm06:17
psi-jackUbuntu 8.04 kernel panicked, AGAIN, on installation.06:18
Dr_Willisits also a good idea to defrag befor resizing.06:18
spO how do i (force) log someone out  ?  besides just killing their shell06:18
arleslieDr_Willis, well I usally do only resize 10% full partitions, so thats probly why06:18
GuidMorrowwhich one of these work best for burning an ISO to a CD, again?06:18
Gneapsi-jack: what kind of system is it?06:18
Dr_Willisarleslie:  :) yes..  it would resize one thats 0% full even faster i bet!06:18
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.06:18
Ivozhow do i go about trying to make an eclipse 3.5 package for ubuntu to use?06:18
Gnea!burn | GuidMorrow06:18
ubottuGuidMorrow: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto06:18
psi-jackGnea: Pentium 4 2.8 HT, 4gb DDR1 400Mhz, 6 HDD's, DVD, DVD-RW, etc.06:19
Gneapsi-jack: must be something weird with your hardware configuration. have you tried 8.10 or 9.04?06:19
psi-jackIt's kernel panicking on XFS of all things.06:19
psi-jackGnea: Not yet, no. I wanted to use 8.04 specifically.06:19
arlesliesp0, pkill -KILL -u “username”06:19
Gneapsi-jack: try changing the bootline to include this:  pci=routeirq06:19
psi-jackGnea: Gotcha, will do.06:20
collinm140i dont have volume control what do i do?06:20
CaptainCrookanyone having nessus taking a long long time to log in?06:20
Gneacollinm140: how do you know you don't have volume control?06:21
collinm140it went away06:21
obxyeah that's right i probably should have defragged06:21
collinm140Gnea: i tihnk i messed up some stuff screwing around in alsamixer06:21
obxwould it just be easier doing this WHILE i'm installing? cause this is a bit of a bother06:21
chankloranyone knows how to extract mp3 from an Audio CD?06:21
collinm140Gnea:can i just revert that to original settings?06:22
arleslie!rip | chanklor06:22
psi-jackchanklor: They're not on the CD as MP3 so you can't extract mp3's from an Audio CD06:22
ubottuchanklor: For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar06:22
Dr_Willischanklor:  you 'rip' reencode to mp3 format..06:22
Gneacollinm140: there's no volume control selector on the top panel?06:22
collinm140Gnea: none at all06:22
GuidMorrowubottu: #ubuntu-bots has errors06:22
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:22
Gneacollinm140: so it just disappeared?06:22
collinm140Gnea:in its entireity06:22
bazhangcollinm140, right click add to panel06:23
Gneacollinm140: then just right-click on the top panel, go to "add to panel" and select the volume control06:23
collinm140Gnea: yes tried it it doesnt work06:23
Gneacollinm140: define "doesnt work" in detail, please06:24
thelostfaithIf I've accessed a usb drive from my desktop and I want to transfer the files over to another usb drive and its telling me I don't have permissions, how can I go about setting them?06:24
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  what filesystem is on the drives?06:24
thelostfaithOne is fat, other is ext306:24
=== ripps_ is now known as ripps
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  for ext3 you MUST set proper permissions/ownership with chmode  and chown06:24
* thelostfaith facepalms06:25
collinm140Gnea: when i click add under volume control (depracated) nothing happens at all, and when i go into system -> preferences -> sound it says waiting for sound system to respond06:25
collinm140and nothing happens06:25
Gneacollinm140: and the same thing happens when you reboot?06:25
collinm140Gnea: yes06:25
Gneacollinm140: any results from the following command in a terminal?  cat /proc/asound/cards06:26
collinm140Gnea: no such directory06:27
Gneacollinm140: okay, are you familiar with pastebin?06:28
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  :) at least you were not trying to chown/chmod files on a ntfs filesystem. :)06:28
collinm140Gnea: no06:28
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic06:28
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  and i see this question asked about once a day in here. :) in some form or another.06:28
thelostfaithI know enough about file systems, been developing over them for years.06:28
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  ok. :)06:28
thelostfaithJust finally got around to actually full-timing a linux system06:28
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  you just overlooked it.. heh.06:28
Gneacollinm140: I suggest installing pastebinit before we continue06:29
collinm140Gnea: one minute06:29
thelostfaithI'm so used to all my drives being of some windows format06:29
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  if you move that usb drive to another linux box.. the ownerships may be wrong also.06:29
Gneacollinm140: sure thing06:29
thelostfaithWell, I have to lock my stuff up daily, so I'm sure I'll have to chmod them daily tbh06:29
obxaurgh this is still going :(06:30
* GuidMorrow . o O Cannot get an accurate ping reading. Worst: 61.7s06:30
collinm140Gnea: i have the url pulled up06:30
GneaGuidMorrow: tried tracepath?06:30
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  if you are plugging it into the same machine every day.. proberly not.06:30
Gneacollinm140: okay. could you please pastebin the output of the following commands:  lspci  and  dmesg06:30
thelostfaithDr_Willis, I'm really hoping on that06:30
arleslieobx, I recommend taking a nap then06:31
thelostfaithBut I've ran into some bogus issues lately with this laptop and ubuntu06:31
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  unless the admins some how reorder teh uid's  for the users.06:31
obxi'd rather not wipe out ntfs this time :(06:31
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)06:31
arleslieobx, I ment you take a nap not your computer06:31
thelostfaithNah, I'm the admin06:32
starimpactthe wirless of ubuntu9.04 has problem06:32
=== hw is now known as AntonioMarcos
Gneastarimpact: have you filed a bug?06:33
GuidMorrowWTH BAD LAG!06:33
starimpactnot yet06:34
collinm140Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253941/06:34
spOhow do i kill a shell based on its pts ptty or terminal name , ie, i have multiple people with the sam euser name logged in and i want to kill the shell of only one of htem06:34
GuidMorrowat this point FreeNode would have kicked me away after three minutes of lag06:34
starimpactthe wirless is not steable, sometime can work ,sometime can not06:34
chanklordoes anyone knows an alternative for Sound Juicer?06:34
GuidMorrowcan you do ssh over wireless06:35
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  yes.06:35
Gneacollinm140: it looks like you put the system to sleep06:35
collinm140Gnea: ?06:35
collinm140im very new to linux06:35
Gneacollinm140: you have a dell Inspiron 930006:35
collinm140Gnea: yes06:36
xiphosits kinda funny, you never hear anyone say, I am very experienced in Linux06:36
GuidMorrowlike ssh to another computer hooked with a wireless dongle06:36
xiphosor I have been using this forever06:36
collinm140Xiphos haha06:36
GuidMorrowbecause I was wanting to setup a NFS on that one machine06:36
collinm140ive heard linux guru06:36
GuidMorrowsamba perhaps06:36
Dr_Willisxiphos:  been using it for.. Hmm... 12+years...06:36
MorikHello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file.06:37
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  you can do SSH or any other sort of networking over wireless that you do over wired..normally06:37
Gneacollinm140: okay. the dmesg command outputs the kernel messages. it basically tells you what's up with your system. one thing it pointed out was that you put the system to sleep and then woke it back up. it's possible that your sound did not recover.06:37
collinm140Gnea: sp how can i reset it?06:37
arlesliexiphos, thats because the experienced ones don't have problems06:38
kiran_how to install kde06:38
Gneacollinm140: do a standard reboot of the system and don't put it to sleep06:38
Dr_Willisthe experienced ones.. know where to go read  to learn to fix their problems. :)06:38
arleslie!find kde | kiran_06:38
ubottukiran_: Found: akonadi-kde, desktop-effects-kde, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gdebi-kde, gettext-kde (and 597 others)06:38
bazhangkiran_, the package kubuntu-desktop06:38
collinm140Gnea and oh yes i did get a message wen turning it on after putting it to sleep that there was a serious kernel error06:38
GuidMorrowproblem is, will my router let me ssh to another computer...?06:38
bazhangkiran_, install that package06:38
arleslieDr_Willis, that to06:38
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  its your router.. check its docs..06:39
GuidMorrowlinksys wrt150n06:39
OsoPolaroidhello people06:39
kiran_i wanna install compliz themes i am sucked please sugget me06:39
Dr_WillisGuidMorrow:  most can do ssh port forwarding..06:39
kiran_how to install06:39
Gneacollinm140: yeah. a lot of hardare had to be re-initialised. it looks like the audio subsystem was not.06:39
GuidMorrow!compliz | kiran_06:40
nate__hey everyone...i just installed ubuntu on 500gb ide drive and am getting the grub error 17...i can find a for sure answer on google on how to resolve it.  I need basically fix my MBR right?  Anybody care to help a noob get it fixed? :)06:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about compliz06:40
kiran_hello bazhang06:40
MorikHello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error "Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file. "06:40
kiran_ya compiz06:40
nate__*i cant find06:40
GuidMorrow!compiz | kiran_06:40
ubottukiran_: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz06:40
Dr_Willisnate__:  a linux only system?06:40
bazhangkiran_, you want kubuntu or compiz?06:40
nate__no i got vista 64 on a separte hdd06:40
kiran_both of them06:40
dsdeiz_how to get the source of a package?06:40
dsdeiz_using apt-get?06:41
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)06:41
GuidMorrowdoes your gfx card support compiz?06:41
bazhangkiran_, kubuntu has its own 3D compositing you know?06:41
Gneadsdeiz_: use apt-get source <packagename>06:41
nate__i booted into knoppix if you need me to tell you my settings06:41
xiphoshaha nice06:41
bazhangxiphos, ??06:41
kiran_no iam new to  linux06:41
pblchaikernel 2.6.28-11 its better than 28-14.47?06:41
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)06:41
Gneapblchai: 28-14.47 is not a kernel version.06:42
kiran_guidmorrow my graphics card support compliz06:42
collinm140Gnea: i just did a proper reboot and still nothing06:42
kiran_inbuilt 268 mb06:42
Gneacollinm140: nothing in /proc/asound/cards?06:43
Gneapblchai: never seen it. got 2.6.28-15 here06:43
collinm140gnea: no such file or directory06:43
MorikHello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file.06:44
Gneacollinm140: try this:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart06:44
kiran_anyone answer me06:44
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:44
GuidMorrowkiran_: Unknown card. Compiz usually works on most modern ATI/AMD or nVIDIA graphics cards06:44
bazhangkiran_, answer what06:44
Gneakiran_: who makes inbuilt?06:44
pblchaii got 2.6.28-11 but the update manager now are downloading the .14.4706:44
pblchaii use x86_6406:45
Gneapblchai: what version of ubuntu?06:45
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.06:45
bazhang2. pblchai you must be mistaken06:46
IvozHi, after enabling both my monitors to be X-Screens and xinerama, visual effects now says I need the 'composite' extension to get 3d effects.. anyone know what's going on? I'm running ubuntu 9.04 with a 9600GT and nvidia drivers06:46
Gneapblchai: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?06:46
collinm140Gnea: still nothing06:47
Gneacollinm140: okay, how about this one:  sudo alsa force-reload06:47
Gneapblchai: yup..06:48
obxoh wow, it's finally doing it. 49 minutes eta :/06:48
pblchailater than reboot, the auto eth0, is not available06:49
pblchaii dont know why06:49
collinm140Gnea: should i reboot?06:49
pblchaiI know use better hardy heron than jaunty jacklope06:49
Gneacollinm140: no, once was enough06:49
GuidMorrowkiran_ logged off before receiving their answer06:50
collinm140Gnea well still nothing is happening06:50
fbnHi, to what package in Launchpad should I report a bug related to USB/kernel ?06:50
MorikHello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error "Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file. "06:50
GuidMorrowwhat the heck exactly is a jackalope06:50
collinm140australian thing06:51
collinm140i remember one of my conselours from australia talking about one06:51
collinm140i tihng its related to an antelope06:51
collinm140and a jackrabbit06:51
apoloeo12I've got a problem... Im in liveCD trying to repair grub error 15 by typing root (hdx,x) then setup (hdX) then I get an error saying Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition06:51
vasslerAny way to rip a dvd movie and copy the movie onto your harddrive?06:51
apoloeo12Help... feels like Im not even half way06:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about copyright06:52
collinm140Guid Morrow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope06:52
bazhangGuidMorrow, please /msg ubottu06:52
bazhangcollinm140, please keep chat to #ubuntu-offtopic06:52
apoloeo12uhm that may not make sense...06:52
Dr_WillisJackalope = fictious animal = a rabbit with 'horns'06:52
collinm140Gnea: still nothing06:53
Gneacollinm140: taking a look around ubuntuforums.org06:53
collinm140Gnea: iv done almost everything there06:53
fudoreaperupgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 using 'do-release-upgrade' is failing without displaying an error, but just after "Calculating the changes". any ideas what's wrong?06:53
collinm140Gnea but am not sure wat type of sound card i have06:53
collinm140Gnea : so cant advance much further06:54
OsoPolaroidhello people, could someone help this newbie (that is, me)  in a Linux audio issue, please?06:54
* apoloeo12 needs GRUB help06:54
collinm140OSOPOLAND: you two?06:54
arleslie!audio | OsoPolaroid06:54
ubottuOsoPolaroid: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:54
Gneacollinm140: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)06:55
nate__hey everyone...i just installed ubuntu on 500gb ide drive and am getting the grub error 17...i cant find a for sure answer on google on how to resolve it.  I need basically fix my MBR right?  Anybody care to help a noob get it fixed? :)06:55
xiphosI have a related question, using ALSA actually. Do you knwo where I can find this package? flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound06:55
OsoPolaroidCollinm, yes I have a bit of problems with my soundcard in linux06:55
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | nate__06:56
ubottunate__: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:56
arleslie!audio | OsoPolaroid, Gnea, collinm14006:56
ubottuOsoPolaroid, Gnea, collinm140: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:56
Gneacollinm140: this page seems to hit exactly what you're dealing with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77322106:57
OsoPolaroidUbottu, I have tried all the help available in the web related my problem06:57
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:57
apoloeo12Dr_Willis: wudn't  you like know about the grub error I have right now?06:57
Deftone07I need help....got a new laptop and can't find the drivers for my wireless. can someone help me out pleez06:57
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  :) if i say no.. is that making me a badddd boy?06:57
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  grub is the kindof thing i spent  a few hrs reading about, reading the grub docs and experiment/learning about...06:58
apoloeo12Yeess!!! if I say that you suck.. would you hate me?06:58
arleslieDeftone07, what is the wireless device?06:58
Deftone07Intel pro wireless06:58
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  #1 thing people overloook is that grub counts fro 0, and  linux starts counting from 106:58
apoloeo12yeah ya not the only one despite that Im more newer than you are haha06:58
arleslie!wireless | Deftone0706:58
ubottuDeftone07: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:58
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  #2 thing is that the hd# can change depending onwhat drive you are booting.06:59
apoloeo12Dr_Will: I already understood that... tricky at first untill it come to my sense ;)06:59
Deftone07i know how to install it and stuff...just not sure what driver is the correct one06:59
biovoreDeftone07: most of the intell wireless devices work off the bat..  you probably have one of the new ones..06:59
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com06:59
apoloeo12Dr_Willis: the hd# changes when booting??06:59
OsoPolaroidall I need is an experienced Linux user to explain how to use a "patch" (more likely some amount of code) which I found in a forum to solve my audio problem06:59
arleslieDeftone07, if ubuntu didn't install a default one, I suggest using madWifi06:59
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  if you have a exteranl usb drive and tell bios to boot from it.. it becomes 'hd0' the internal drives would then be hd1 and so on...07:00
Deftone07I have an HP Pavillion dv4-1435dx07:00
apoloeo12Ohh i see07:00
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  ifyou booted from interlan drive.. the exteranl usb one would be hd1 (or higher)07:00
apoloeo12no no dont think that the plm I have07:00
pimped92Where do i get kernel modules for sound?07:00
iandayenI have a wireless question with the newest Ubuntu, I installed Ubuntu, and before updating, I was able to use wireless with the madwifi driver, but once I updated, my wifi doesn't work07:00
biovoreDeftone07: if you open a shell and type "sudo lspci"  does it say anything there about the wireless device..07:01
apoloeo12Type of the volume is dyamic in windows and would that not be affected?07:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci07:01
iandayenhow do I open a shell07:01
Deftone07crap i'll have to check when i get back on ubuntu...i had to get back on crappy vista to find out the driver07:01
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:01
Dr_Willisiandayen:  gnome-terminal iconis one way07:01
bazhangSchmitty, /msg ubottu07:01
pimped92where can i get kernel modules for sound?07:02
shivrajhaha ubottu07:02
fudoreaperpimped92: kernel modules usually come with ubuntu07:02
Schmittybazhang: that was for iandayen ; wouldn't do much good if I was the only one to see the responce07:02
arleslieSchmitty, not everyone needs that07:02
bazhang!bot > Schmitty07:03
ubottuSchmitty, please see my private message07:03
iandayenI see ethernet controller, but no wireless07:03
Deftone07although everest ultimate tells me Broadcom 802.11bg07:03
arleslieiandayen, are you sure your wireless device is turned on?07:03
shivrajwow this ubuntu is pretty nice07:03
iandayenfirst thing I checked07:03
shivrajwhats the name of this latest release ?07:03
Deftone07what's the new ubuntu?07:03
karexHI, is there an application to gain or normalize audio (ogg, mp3, ...) volume?07:03
macoshivraj: 9.04 was codenamed "Jaunty Jackalope" during development07:04
pblchaijaunty jacklope, actual07:04
gst-kapshow do i restore my grub, /boot/grub/stage1 file is not there ?07:04
arlesliewell the new one is going to be 9.10 and I forgot whats its called07:04
macopblchai: hmm? if youre correcting my spelling, there are definitely 2 a's in the english word "jackalope"07:04
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  you sure you are looking in the right place? How did you boot that system without that files being there?07:04
shivrajhaha, well I usually use Debian but after grub failed and the kernel wasnt working ... I decided to try this ubuntu cd I had laying around07:04
iandayenit worked great until i downloaded, installed updates and then restarteed computer, after that, no connection07:04
gst-kapsDr_Willis:I am on live cd07:05
savanny1976ugst-Kaps, use live Cd07:05
arleslie!fixgrub | gst-kaps07:05
ubottugst-kaps: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:05
thelostfaithIf I have an empty drive and gparted is registering it at ~950g, yet when I click on the drive via nautilus and it says 850g, whats the issue?07:05
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  be sure you are not looking on the '/boot/ thats on the live cd.. but the  'boot/grub' thats where you mounted theinstalled system07:05
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:05
pblchaiyou are correcting my spelling i dont doing anything i go spanish english sucks!07:06
karexHI, is there an application to gain or normalize audio (ogg, mp3, ...) volume?07:06
arleslie!audio | karex07:06
ubottukarex: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:06
macopblchai: oh ok. the "actual" i thought meant you were trying to correct me. sorry.07:06
innomenCan anyone recommend a novel/book creation solution? i have a bunch of chapters and i dont know what order to put them in, i would like to be able to manage them in some way, any gpl ideas?07:06
arlesliekarex, whoops sorry07:06
pblchaino problem thank you07:06
macoinnomen: typesetting or brainstorming?07:07
pblchainow i know how to write jaunty jackAlope07:07
Dr_Willisinnomen:  tex/latex is designed for  typesetting.. if thas what you want.07:07
arlesliekarex, ubuntu has a built in audio mixer, right click on the volume icon at the top next to the clock and click "Open Volume Control"07:07
pblchaithe next is Karmic Koala 9.10 in october 200907:07
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Dr_WillisLaughing Lamma07:08
pblchaiempathy will replace pidgin?07:08
karexarleslie: i mean such a small audio editor :)07:08
thelostfaithIf a drive is set to 777, whys it telling me its read-only?07:08
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  the directorys on the drive can have other permissions07:08
acro-asarva_don't you mean 666?07:08
arleslie!find audacity | karex07:08
ubottukarex: Found: audacity, audacity-data, audacity-dbg07:08
Gneathelostfaith: sub-directories won't be the same07:08
bazhangpblchai, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion07:08
thelostfaithI set -R07:08
iandayenok after enabling the alternate aetheros driver in hardware tab, in terminal doing sudo lspci I see Atheros Comminications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg wireless PCI Express Adapter07:09
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  when in doubt double check the permissions07:09
Gneaacro-asarva_: 666 is for files, 777 for directories & executables07:09
iandayenbut I still can not connect to any network wirelessly07:09
karexarleslie: is there a smaller/easier application than audacity?07:09
arlesliekarex, ubottu is really letting me down today, you can use Audacity, due "sudo apt-get install audacity" in a terminal07:09
maco!info normalize-audio | karex07:09
ubottukarex: normalize-audio (source: normalize-audio): adjusts the volume of WAV, MP3 and OGG files to a standard volume level. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.7-2 (jaunty), package size 54 kB, installed size 200 kB07:09
macoarleslie: karex is asking for something lighterweight than audacity07:10
apoloeo12Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition <--- how do I get grub to recognize the mounted drive??? if it isnt already07:10
iandayenany ideas?07:10
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  mount it some where?07:10
thelostfaithchmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk': Read-only file system07:11
thelostfaithIt still says that07:11
apoloeo12dr_willis it seemed mounted.... even i clicked on the drive...07:11
thelostfaithThats weird07:11
Dr_Willisthelostfaith:  is it ntfs or what filesystem?07:11
Gneathelostfaith: as user or sudo?07:11
arlesliethelostfaith, what file system is /media/disk07:11
karexarleslie: ok, i'll try normalize-audio before asking (if it's needed). thank u07:11
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  perhaps grub is looking somewhere else for it.07:11
thelostfaithfat32 -> ext3 is what I'm transferring to->from07:11
acro-asarva_sudo aptitude wipe & sudo wipe -r /?07:11
thelostfaithI used sudo07:11
apoloeo12why? not after i typed setup (hd1)07:12
savanny1976uapoloeo12, how many hard drive do you have?07:12
thelostfaith/say /media/disk ext307:12
apoloeo12still wouldnt work if zI type hd0 even07:12
apoloeo12three harddrives07:12
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:    that tells grub to install teh boot foles onto hd1, it still looks in /boot/ for the files.. if you dont have /boot/properfiles  then it cant copy them over.07:12
SeventoesI installed the NVidia drivers from the hardware manager, and when i rebooted i have my desktop tiled 6 times on my screen and a teeeeny resolutoin :(07:12
arlesliethelostfaith, ubuntu should auto mount a fat32 filesystem, and fat32 is read and writeble in linux, you shouldn't have to transform it to ext307:12
SeventoesGeForce GT 130M 1gb07:13
iandayenanyone familiar with wireless problems that could help?07:13
Dr_Willisapoloeo12: also if this is from a live cd. theres 1 or 2 commands you normally do befor   you try to install grub.07:13
savanny1976uYour problem is Cylinders, were are trying to RESTORE  MBR?07:13
eraggohah! never been so easy to install mobile internet connection before 9.04 :)07:13
thelostfaithI'm trying to transfer files from a fat32 external to an ext3 external07:13
thelostfaithThe external is giving me that error07:13
mralexandroi have trouble editing the menus in ubuntu07:14
apoloeo12man what did I miss?07:14
arlesliethelostfaith, which external07:14
thelostfaithThe /media/disk (ext3) gives me that error07:14
karexarleslie: is there GUI for normalize-audio?07:14
apoloeo12I acciently closed chatroom when i was typing07:14
mralexandroi want to make another main menu, like the aplication and places and system menu07:14
thelostfaithEven after chmod -R 77707:14
fudoreaperthelostfaith: you may need to remount it07:14
arlesliekarex, I don't know I don't use normalize-audio07:14
apoloeo12Dr_Willis: care to repeat what u said pleasse?07:15
arleslieapoloeo12, Dr_Willis> apoloeo12: also if this is from a live cd. theres 1 or 2 commands you normally do befor   you try to install grub.07:15
dennizjovI got a problem with my soundcard in Ubuntu, it works now when i used pulseaudio instead but i need to do it everytime i restart ubuntu... And i dont have: System -> Preferences -> Sound07:15
pblchaii want to prepare the test LPIC-1, and later ubuntu certification but here in Argentina i dont know anyone who offer the test or help me learning07:15
dennizjovHow do i fix System -> Preferences -> Sound ? I dont have it on my menu07:15
Seventoesand the NVidia config tool doesn't let me pick a resolution above 640x48007:15
arleslie!audio | dennizjov07:15
ubottudennizjov: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:15
savanny1976uGrub can not see your 3 drives07:15
apoloeo12Dr_W: what would that be?07:16
apoloeo12Dr_Willis: what would that be?07:16
dennizjovarleslie: I have followed that guide, alsa doesnt found my soundcard but pulseaudio do, now i want to change the default sound to pulseaudio from the WIKI guide... but i dont have System -> Preferences -> Sound in menu07:16
dennizjovthats the big problem07:17
apoloeo12savanny: what? what do you mean?07:17
arlesliedennizjov, what verison of ubuntu are you running07:17
apoloeo12I hate this not having a nick comp07:17
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dennizjovarleslie: 9.0407:17
arlesliedennizjov, what flavor?07:17
dennizjovarleslie: xubuntu07:17
arleslie!xubuntu | dennizjov07:18
ubottudennizjov: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels07:18
arlesliedennizjov, nvm, ubottu isn't helping me out here07:18
mralexandrohow can i create another main menu like the "aplications" "places" "system" ones already on the ubuntu distro, i tried editing menu, but could not add anoter "main" menu07:18
arlesliedennizjov, let me find the channel for xubuntu07:18
savanny1976uWhere are you trying to install Grub? master drive,2nd or 3rd?07:18
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  reading up on the '!fixgrub' urls they mention a command similer to...07:18
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda07:18
arlesliedennizjov, join #xubuntu and they'll tell you where to go07:19
Dr_Willis  the root-directory is the proper path to where your system is mounted to.07:19
dennizjovarleslie: thanks07:19
apoloeo12savanny: d0 is nothing, d2 is XP and D3 is linux07:19
buckymralexandro: right click on the panel and click on Add to Panel and scroll down to Main Menu07:19
apoloeo12dr_willis: ok... trying now07:19
savanny1976uapoloeolo12, Here is a link that explain your problem:   http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg06518.html07:20
thelostfaithI remounted the drive, its still giving me that error07:21
apoloeo12savanny: correction; d0 is nothing, d1 is XP and D2 is linux07:21
apoloeo12savanny hold on checking...07:22
mralexandrobucky: that will just add the same menu as already there. i want my own one07:22
linuxninjaI'm using the firefox 3 binary07:22
linuxninjait says I don't have java07:22
linuxninjahow do I install java on firefox 307:22
savanny1976uis d0, the master?07:22
arleslielinuxninja, go to java.com and download a linux verison07:23
macolinuxninja: install icedtea6-plugin07:23
gOLdenHaWK3Dlinuxninja: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin07:23
bazhangarleslie, err no, get from repos07:23
macolinuxninja: openjdk-6-jre is a runtime environment07:23
Dr_Willis'firefox 3 binary' ? how did you install firefox?07:23
linuxninjaThanks All07:24
apoloeo12savanny: msg me your  meuila and Ill send it to you?07:24
arlesliebazhang, I don't know the package name07:24
Dr_Willisthe 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package installs java and flash and more07:24
savanny1976uGo to the boot menu and boot from different drive07:24
thelostfaithAhh, fixed07:24
bazhangarleslie, ubuntu-restricted-extras or !java > nick will do it07:24
buckymralexandro: how about a drawer?07:24
arleslie!java | linuxninja07:25
ubottulinuxninja: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:25
arlesliebazhang, thanks07:25
mralexandrobucky: thats nice:D07:25
mralexandrobucky: can i just add any aplication in that one?07:25
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »07:27
apoloeo12savanny: I take that as a no?07:28
inhottebУ меня вопрос.07:28
inhottebМожет кто ответить?)07:28
Dr_Willis !ru07:29
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke07:29
apoloeo12Dr_willis: anyway, the command you just gave me.. will that put it on the first harddrive??? whereas no OS resides on the first one? Others are on second and third?07:29
inhottebi can and an english )07:29
Ky|eWhen ever I try to use my wireless now in ubuntu it say's SIOCSIFFLAGS resource temporarily unavailable07:29
Ky|eused to work fine07:30
Ky|elappy onboard wireless07:30
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  it installs grub to the bootloader on the first hard drive.  it dosent matter if theres an OS on it or not.07:30
apoloeo12dr_W: even sdb then? no?07:30
Dr_Willisit installs it to the MBR of whatever drive you tell it to.07:30
Dr_Willisinstall it to all the drives.. :)07:31
apoloeo12Ok i jus dont wanna mess up heh07:31
mralexandrois there any stable dock for ubuntu 9.04. i tried cairo dock but did not work very well, unstable07:31
Dr_Willismralexandro:  gnome-do has a dock like theme+shelf feature.07:31
apoloeo12just curious: the bootloader is a file? or it only writes on the first sector?07:31
Pseudo_BobHey, I'm on my mom's laptop, which I installed Ubuntu on for when I use it.  She's running low on disk space for Windows, though, so what I'd like to do is either get rid of Ubuntu or if possible move more space onto the Windows partition07:32
mralexandroDr_Willis: i am sorry i do not understand, is gnome do a software of some kind then?07:32
Dr_Willis!info gnome-do07:32
ubottugnome-do (source: gnome-do): Quickly perform actions on your desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version (jaunty), package size 410 kB, installed size 1976 kB07:32
gst-kapsDr_Willis:my mbr seems to be screwed, i get grub loading error 2207:33
Pseudo_BobI have GParted open right now, but I'm being assured I could cause some kind of mass destruction so I figured I should get some help.07:33
apoloeo12dr_willis: just curious: the bootloader is a file? or it only writes on the first sector?07:33
Dr_Willisonce you get your gnome-do fu skills going you dont need no dock. :)07:33
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  grub tools install a proper bootloader to the master bootrecord of the drive.07:33
Pseudo_BobWhat exactly does unmounting a partition do?07:33
Dr_WillisPseudo_Bob:  disconnectes it from the filesystem 'tree'07:34
RDovewhen i do a | grep -i .com, it matches just the com part... is there a way to make it match ".com" with the .07:34
Dr_WillisPseudo_Bob:  :)07:34
Dr_WillisPseudo_Bob:  makes it where its not accessable from the  system normally07:34
gst-kapsDr_Willis:the grub restore on forums is not working for me07:34
apoloeo12root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sdb07:34
apoloeo12mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/root/boot': No such file or directory07:34
SeventoesI installed the latest NVidia drivers for my GeForce GT 130M but when I boot up I get 6 of the same 640x480 screens mirrored on my one laptop display :-/07:34
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  some times - it pays to just go read grub docs and learn how it works.. Its hard to remote admin it.07:34
Pseudo_Bobdr_willis: Hm.  If I unmount the one with Ubuntu installed will that cause the computer to explode if I'm using Ubuntu on it right now?07:35
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  now.. IS your installed system mounted to /media/root ? I  am guessing Not.07:35
apoloeo12oh holdo n07:35
SubbyWolfy8-looks around- anyone wana chat? ^^07:35
savanny1976uapoloeo12, go to bios and boot from different drive, had the same problem before, you exceeded your cylinders limit by having 3 hard drive, your grub is confused can not see all of them or is confused were to start, so it gives an error message.07:35
mralexandroDr_Willis: i installed gnome do, but how do i start it:D <embarrased>07:36
laloinnothing to be embarrased bout it07:36
Gnea!ubuntu | SubbyWolfy807:36
ubottuSubbyWolfy8: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com07:36
Dr_Willismralexandro:  windowkey-space07:36
laloinI'm still on the fence bout unbuntu07:36
Dr_Willismralexandro:  time to check the gnome-do homepage/docs :) and  enable the shelf plugin also.07:36
savanny1976ugnome, click session, check gnome and log.07:36
apoloeo12dr_willis: it seemed to be mounted, but is this refering to linux? if so its already mounted... but if its /media.... i cud be missing soemthing else???07:36
inhottebHello. How can I watch DVD from folder on my HDD?07:37
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  use the 'mount' command and see  where its mounted to.. and use the proper path in that grub command you were trying07:37
Gneainhotteb: mplayer can playback vob files07:37
feverhello helpful people anyone out there using TuxOnIce with Jaunty?07:37
Dr_Willis apoloeo12  one normally mounts things to subdirs in /media/whatever07:37
Gnea!anyone | fever07:37
ubottufever: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:37
Pseudo_BobSo should I just go ahead and unmount the Ubuntu partiton?07:38
gst-kapsDr_Willis:I had a windows and ubuntu and I deleted the ubutu partitions , now  from live cd I cant see even menu.lst and the restore stuff like root and setup is also helping, what  might be wrong ?07:38
laloinanybody able to play world of warcraft and everquest 2 using ubunto?07:38
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  what are you trying to acomplish? if you deleted linux.. then you dont need to use grub..07:38
savanny1976uGnea, install medibuntu07:38
Pseudo_Boblaloin: I know it's possible to play WoW using Wine07:38
Gneasavanny1976u: what?07:38
Pseudo_Boblaloin: Hold on a sec.07:38
Dr_WillisPseudo_Bob:  yes it is.07:39
Dr_Willis!appdb | Pseudo_Bob07:39
ubottuPseudo_Bob: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help07:39
savanny1976udid you install medibuntu?07:39
laloinyes I've seen it run via wine07:39
Gnea!wow | laloin07:39
ubottulaloin: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php07:39
savanny1976upas loin du tous07:39
Gneasavanny1976u: I'm not the one with the issue here...07:39
apoloeo12savanny: uhmm... can I get back to you? :)07:39
Gnea!pm | inhotteb07:40
ubottuinhotteb: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.07:40
laloinheh I never got this sort of support using windows07:40
apoloeo12dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253951/07:40
mralexandroDr_Willis: you are probably to busy now, but is it posible to get a walk trough. i could not find that document page on their website07:40
gst-kapsDr_Willis:I want to reinstall linux, but not able to , as gparted gets hanged while scanning devices, so I thought I should try to reboot in windows, but my grub gives me error 22 ?07:40
Gnealaloin: well, that's because we're better :)07:40
Pseudo_BobYou do very good work, Doc.  Must be hard putting up with all the newbies...07:40
kiran_how to remove linux from my system07:40
laloinwell I'm still on the fence bout using ubuntu07:40
Seventoesanyone ever had the NVidia drivers show them their screen 6 times on the same monitor? :(07:40
feverOk... positive experiences using TuxOnIce with Jaunty? particularly with an acer laptop... having suspend/hibernate issues...07:40
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  dev/sdc5 on /media/disk type ext3    <---------- try that path for the command perhaps? or LOOK and see if theres a 'boot' directory in  that path07:40
kiran_anyone hear me07:41
laloinis the doc a bot?07:41
Ghotikiran_: no, we cannot.07:41
Gnealaloin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft  is a bit more focused07:41
Dr_Willislaloin:  not  last i checked.07:41
Gnea!english | savanny1976u07:41
ubottusavanny1976u: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:41
Pseudo_Bobkiran: lmgtfy.com07:41
kiran_no i have dual boot system and i wanna remove ububntu please suggest me07:41
laloinsorry doc, used to dealing with bots07:41
Pseudo_BobBah forget it.07:42
gst-kapsDr_Willis:I want to reinstall linux, but not able to , as gparted gets hanged while scanning devices, so I thought I should try to reboot in windows, but my grub gives me error 22 ?07:42
Dr_Williskiran_:  delete the linux partitions.. reinstall the windows bootloader.. reformat the deleted partitions.07:42
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  you removed the bootloader files.. grub is now broken.07:42
savanny1976uSorry, I was confused07:42
laloinyou should get paid for this doc :)07:42
kiran_when i am going to format that drive on windows boot loader it shows error message07:42
Dr_Willislaloin:  i get a lot of 'dirty looks' does that count?07:42
gst-kapsDr_Willis: ooops, how do I fix it please ?07:42
laloinhahahhahahahah doc :)07:42
Gneakiran_: why do you want to remove ubuntu?07:43
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: what kind of error msg?07:43
laloinI get lots of funny looks when I'm reading up on unbuntu07:43
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  not sure..   gparted hanging is. weird.. try booting a gparted live cd. and use that to delete the partitions.. then reboot the ubuntu installer disk and reinstall.07:43
laloinpeople ask me, you mean there is something else besides windows07:43
kiran_windows cannot remove the partition bcoz its used by the other operating system07:43
Pseudo_BobWhat Windows programs can I get that will work like Gparted to reformat my Ubuntu partition?07:43
Dr_Williswindows has no clue what to do with a ext2/3 filesstem. but  the windows tools should be able to delete it.07:44
GhotiPseudo_Bob: there's PartitionMagic, but it's not free.07:44
GneaPseudo_Bob: that question is better asked in ##windows07:44
Pseudo_BobRight, sorry07:44
Dr_WillisI just use gparted live cd's all the time.07:44
richardcavellPseudo_Bob: you don't need to use Windows.07:44
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:44
kiran_suggest me that tools that allow me to delete the ext3 partitions07:44
Dr_Willisseveral are repair/restore disks at disrtowatch.com07:44
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: you can use ubuntu live cd to do that.07:45
Dr_Williskiran_:  try one of those live cds like the parted magic one,07:45
kiran_ya iam tried but not works07:45
Ghotikiran_: in Linux, fdisk.  In Windows, Disk Mangler^H^H^H^Hager07:45
laloinwell the ubuntu live cd is sitting in front of me, calling me07:45
Gneakiran_: the livecd will do it, then boot into windows after to reclaim it07:45
Dr_Williskiran_:  its how its done.. or use the linux 'fdisk' command from a live cd. i guess.07:45
Dr_WillisGnea:  he cant boot into windows.. grub is broken07:45
Gneawhich is why i asked why you wanted to remove ubuntu and you never answered07:46
Dr_WillispartedMagic or the 'system rescue live cd' both have tools to restore the windows mbr i think.07:46
Pseudo_Bobrichardcavell: Well, I think I do only because I want to reformat the partition I'm currently on.07:46
kiran_bcoz i wanna migrate to linux mint07:46
Dr_Willispeople seem to think they have to 'delete' uubuntu to reinstall it.. the installer can just reformat the partitions.07:46
Dr_Williskiran_:  you are better off not using Mint.07:46
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: use ubuntu live cd if u cannot boot to windows. then use gparted. install it from the internet first.07:47
Pseudo_BobIt's amazing how many people on here are trying to get rid of Ubuntu all the time.07:47
Dr_Williskiran_:  there was no need to 'delete' ubuntu to do that eitehr.07:47
Gneakiran_: why not just pop the mint cd in the drive and install over ubuntu?07:47
Dr_WillisPseudo_Bob:  actually i dont see that many...07:47
richardcavellPseudo_Bob: boot to a live CD07:47
arleslieis there anyway to do a remote ubuntu install, I have a friend who sells VPSs and at the moment he has to manuly install linux him self, is there a way he can do it remotely?07:47
apoloeo12dr_w: I seem to be returning a help menu after I tyoped this command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk type ext3 /dev/sdb07:47
kiran_can i browse windows ntfs drives through the linux mint07:47
Pseudo_Bobrichardcavell: Ugh.  Didn't think of that.  Thanks much.07:47
Ghotiarleslie: many VPS companies offer Ubuntu images to create the containers with.07:48
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: dont know about linux mint, but from ubuntu live cd you can.07:48
Gnea!netboot | arleslie07:48
ubottuarleslie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:48
arleslieGhoti, he runs the VPS company himself07:48
kiran_can you suggest me that which versions can support the access of the windows drives07:49
Dr_Williskiran_:  yes..  most all linux live cds can access ntfs drives07:49
Dr_Williskiran_:  theres very few linux disrtos that CANT these days.. its a common feature07:49
Ghotikiran_: all current Linux distributions can handle NTFS drives.07:49
kiran_i wanna migrate to it so i can access as long as07:49
Ghoti(Hardware permitting)07:49
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  'think' :) it wants JUST the path.. you are giving it all the extra data from that mount command thats not what it wanted.. it wants just --root-directory=/media/disk07:50
Ghotiarleslie: Boot a VM with the Ubuntu Server ISO, install, set up a base image, and use that to create new Ubuntu VPSs with.07:50
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  its just wanting the path to the files to use.07:50
mralexandroDr_Willis: how do i access gnome do settings?07:50
jeeezhi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them??07:51
Dr_Willismralexandro:  when ya window-space theres a button /menu07:51
Dr_Willismralexandro:  top right corner.. a little arrow..07:51
mralexandroDr_Willis: yes i saw it, but gnome closed when i started moving in applications, i found the switch to set it as a dock even, but know it is gone07:51
Dr_Willismralexandro:  theres also a setting to have it always show up a systray icon07:51
mralexandroDr_Willis: yes but i can not access the settings know cause i can not find it:(07:52
Dr_Willismralexandro:  i enabled that.  the win-space arrow works here if i just win-space then use the mouse07:52
Dr_Willismralexandro:  so you are saying win-space dont work any more?07:52
mralexandroDr_Willis: yes that is correct07:52
mralexandroit did but now it doesnt07:52
Dr_Willismralexandro:  perhaps gnome-do crashed... rerun the app07:52
mralexandro i did in terminal, but when i close terminal gnome close too07:53
mralexandroDr_Willis:  any other way of re launching it?07:53
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: use the latest ubuntu.07:53
Dr_Willismralexandro:  PROPER way to close the terminal.. 'gnome-do &' then use the 'exit' command.. NOT the close button at the top right.07:53
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: ubuntu 9.0407:53
Dr_Willismralexandro:  or alt-f2  -> gnome-do07:53
Dr_Willismralexandro:  or use gnome-do icon in the menus07:53
kiran_i wanna migrate from ubuntu07:53
gOLdenHaWK3Dkiran_: from ubuntu to which operating system?07:54
Dr_Willismralexandro:  accessories -> gnome do07:54
mralexandroDr_Willis: ah ok thanks i have it there now, but the settings arrow is not thre07:54
godmodegrafixim dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can view my file, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?07:54
Gneakiran_: please visit the linux mint irc channel, get their livecd, and use that07:54
Dr_Willismralexandro:  you changed themes then.. look  about i guess..07:54
apoloeo12dr_will: yeah I just realized that.... *looks at time* 3:10... heh07:54
psi-jackOy.. So, it boiled down to one bad memory card.07:54
Gnea!mintsupport | kiran_07:54
ubottukiran_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint on irc.spotchat.org07:54
apoloeo12but here...http://paste.ubuntu.com/253955/07:54
mralexandroDr_Willis:  i will reinstall it i think07:54
Dr_Willismralexandro:  that is 'windows' thinking. and proberly wont change anything07:55
Dr_Willismralexandro:  reinstalling an app will NOT reset the users settings07:55
gOLdenHaWK3Dbye guys! :D07:55
godmodegrafixim dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can access the files, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows on the itunes folder, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?07:55
mralexandroDr_Willis: oh ok, yeah i am usualy a windows user:/07:55
mralexandroDr_Willis: is there any other way for me to acces the gnome-do settings?07:56
kiran_i wanna get more advanced desktop effects07:56
Dr_Willismralexandro:  proberly is.. but i would have to read up at the gnome-do homepage to figure it out07:56
mralexandroDr_Willis: oh ok i see07:57
Dr_Willismralexandro:  when ya win-space do you see a systry icon for gnome-do? a purple square with a snowflake in it.07:57
Ghoti!ccsm | kiran_07:57
ubottukiran_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz07:57
aaron11Dr_Willis: Do you know how to switch btween splash screens07:57
Ghotiaaron11: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so07:57
mralexandroDr_Willis: i have already changed theme to docked, so nope it is already there, i can search in it when i press windows space07:57
majnoonAdvances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.07:57
majnoon— Bernard Haisch07:57
aaron11what will that do07:58
kiran_why all the gnome themes are not supported07:58
Dr_Willismralexandro:  if using'docked'  i though there was an ICOn in the dock to get to the settings.07:58
Ghotiaaron11: that will allow you to select between your installed spash screens07:58
psi-jackBut, so far, the installation stuff is STILL pretty effing slow for Ubuntu.07:58
buckygoogle can help a lot07:58
Dr_Willismralexandro:  you may needed to enable the shelf plugin also07:58
mralexandroDr_Willis: hmm i can not seem to find that one, and the shelf plugin i have a hard time enabling without prefrenses or settings07:59
aaron11Ghoti: its asking for numbers07:59
apoloeo12Dr_wil: did you get my msg?08:00
godmodegrafixim dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can access the files, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows on the itunes folder, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?08:00
silv3r_m00nhi there08:00
aaron11Ghoti: oh ok got it08:00
silv3r_m00ncan I run apache , php , mysql , python on netbook remix of ubuntu ... on a acer or samsung netbook ?08:00
kiran_hi here08:00
godmodegrafixaaronll: im sure you can08:01
Ghotisilv3r_m00n: you can run anything you care to install08:01
TwoTwentygodmodegrafix: have you tried double clicking on them and opening them with standard program08:01
aaron11Ghoti: thanks08:01
aaron11lol i know08:01
Ivozsilv3r_m00n: sure, I'm not sure if they're on there by default, but should be easy to put them on if not08:01
Ghotiaaron11: my pleasure! :)08:01
kiran_i wanna more gnome themes please suggest me08:01
kiran_wat fine08:01
godmodegrafixtwotwenty: standard program is a video player..wont read it at all08:02
silv3r_m00nby the way is there any kubuntu netbook remix ?08:02
aaron11kiran_:wait for people08:02
Ghotikiran_: http://www.gnome-look.org/ should have plenty of ideas for you08:02
buckykiran_: apt-cache search themes |grep gnome08:02
aaron11silv3r_m00n: can you make your name easier08:02
kiran_ghoti_that not lot and when i am going to install it shows error message08:03
silv3r_m00naaron11: like ?08:03
aaron11silv3r: silver08:03
psi-jackWhat in the effing world would cause the Ubuntu installer to load slowly, pass between dialog to dialog slowly, and mind you 100% text mode in the Alternate Install Disc... It's driving me absolutely nuts, cause on my Pentium 3 733, it was fast as heck, but on my P4 2.8 HT with 3gb RAM, it's running slow as molasses.08:03
mralexandroDr_Willis: i found the do preferences, now i activated the shelf plugin, what exactly will it do08:04
jeeezhi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them??08:04
Ghotipsi-jack: run top an another terminal to see if there's something dogging down the system perhaps?08:04
user01Hi everyone! Is there a list, containing the Semantic Web supporting companies somewhere? Or would I have to compile it myself from the active working groups pages?08:04
kiran_anyone read me08:04
godmodegrafixneed help you guys :(08:04
psi-jackGhoti: DURING install? before even the kernel finishes loading?08:04
godmodegrafixdrunk and high and need to listen to music08:04
buckypsi-jack: type top and see what's eating up your resources08:05
user01kiran_, YES08:05
godmodegrafixplease dont let me boot windows :(08:05
psi-jackbucky: Maybe you didn't read anything I said?08:05
buckypsi-jack: maybe not08:05
kiran_user01 noname08:05
Ghotipsi-jack: if you're in the installer, you should be able to hit alt-F2 and get another terminal, from which you can run top08:05
kiran_hello user0108:05
user01kiran_, what do you mean, noname?08:06
jeeezhi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them?? anyone??08:06
psi-jackGhoti: Yeah, umm... During install, nothing but the installer itself is running for the most part.08:06
Dr_Willismralexandro:  dosent seem to do what i thought it did. i though it controlled what was on teh doc.. You found the purple icon on the  docky bar Im guessing?08:06
buckykiran_:  install some themes from the repos if you don't like them go find some others on gnome look08:06
Dr_Willismralexandro:  thers also some way to type 'do-perferances' or somthingto get to the settings but i cant figure that out08:06
Ghotipsi-jack: that's why I suggested the other virtual terminals, accessable through alt-F1 through F608:06
buckykiran_: themes should be a drag and drop affair in System->Preferences if you dl one from the internet08:07
mralexandroDr_Willis: no i had to space windows then type preferences, the only way i can access the preferenses, the dock will have a lot of random icons on it, to bad the shelf plugin does not let you put what you want in it08:07
psi-jackGhoti: Yeah, been using Linux since pre 1.0.0, dude. *chuckles* Ubuntu's installer is the only installer that goes this slow.. OpenSUSE's was blazing fast. FreeBSD's, done in minutes total install, etc.08:07
buckyGhoti: ctl-alt F#08:07
aaron11if some1 needs help with themes then go to the link provided : http://www.gnome-look.org/ (this link was hand writen08:08
buckypsi-jack: if you08:08
buckypsi-jack: if you08:08
Dr_Willismralexandro:  not sure what it does  really - the doc for shelf are a little vague08:08
z3ro3xWhen you click on the Search button in Nautilus you're supposed to get more options in the window just above the files and folders. Well I'm not getting those options.  Why would that be?08:08
Dr_Willismralexandro:  http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/Docky08:08
aaron11bucky:dont repeat08:08
apoloeo12dr_willis: did ya catch the url?08:08
mralexandroDr_Willis: thanks08:08
buckypsi-jack: if you've been using linux for twenty years then you know how to get into a console and run top08:08
Ghotibucky: play nice :)08:09
psi-jackbucky: No.. Reaaally? D'uh.. :p08:09
Dr_Willisapoloeo12:  aha. ya got to type "perferances' properly. i was trying  'Do Perferances'08:09
buckypsi-jack: what are you installing to some crappy usb drive?08:09
psi-jackbucky, Ghoti: See the funny thing is, DURING install, when you activate a terminal on tty2, you get BusyBox, which has no top.08:09
apoloeo12sorry I dont understand08:09
psi-jackbucky: No, DVD-ROM drive.08:09
Kolimbohow do i bring up the console, if i am in a game for example?08:09
buckypsi-jack: and what's your internet connection... wireless?08:09
Dr_Willismralexandro:  it also rembers/learns what you launch so it puts them first in the list08:09
Ghotipsi-jack: Interesting, and, were I in your shoes, mildly annoying.08:10
psi-jackbucky: No, wired.08:10
buckypsi-jack: you're installing to a DVD disk?08:10
psi-jackbucky: FROM a CDROM via a DVD-ROM drive.08:10
GhotiKolimbo: depends on to which console you refer, and which game if you are refering to a game's console08:10
buckypsi-jack: cause you were in here before asking about how long it should take to format a drive08:10
psi-jackbucky: Umm. No. I wasn't.08:10
psi-jackbucky: Since I never use the badblocks, formatting generally takes seconds.08:11
buckypsi-jack: so what does top say?08:11
psi-jackbucky: Did you not read what I said, AGAIN?08:12
buckypsi-jack: so what does top say?08:12
psi-jackObviously not.08:12
buckypsi-jack: do you want help or do you want to wine08:12
Ghotibucky: please a> pay attention, and b> kindly stop repeating yourself.08:12
psi-jackbucky: BusyBox doesn't have top!08:12
Gneabucky: enough.08:13
buckyGnea: he's been using linux since version 1.0108:13
buckyi can tell08:13
psi-jackbucky: Pre 1.0.0, actually, thank you very much.08:13
Gneapsi-jack: if you want to know how long it takes to format your drive, just run it like this:  time mkfs.yada /dev/something08:13
mralexandroDr_Willis: that is quite interesting, so it actually lets you place icons there and it also detects most used in some sort of way?08:13
Ghotipsi-jack: the only thing I can think of off the top of my head, absent any data, is that for some reason your IDE channel is klobbering the CPU.08:13
user101Is there any way given any package I can build it statically which will statically include things like libc.so and so on?08:13
Gneabucky: doesn't matter, your behavior is unacceptable here.08:14
Dr_Willismralexandro:  top 5 get added.. and you an drag/drop  to/from it..08:14
psi-jackGnea: Umm... Dude.. I don't care how long it takes. LOL. I never asked that, though bucky seems to be filling everything up with nonsense.08:14
Dr_Willismralexandro:  it seems tobe a better 'dock' then many others ive tried08:14
Gneapsi-jack: ah, okay08:14
Ghotibucky, psi-jack: No need to get into a [bleep]ing contest.. play nive, guys :)08:14
Ghotiand also nice.08:14
psi-jacknive eh? Is that akin to knives? :D08:14
Ghotipsi-jack: only in #swordplay :)08:15
mralexandroDr_Willis: you can have more than five, just resize docky and it will oopen for many many more08:15
gartral!ot | psi-jack Ghoti stop playing with nives08:15
ubottupsi-jack Ghoti stop playing with nives: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:15
psi-jackbucky: No, what /I/ was here asking earlier, was about Networking hardware for gigabit support for onboard NIC's like the nForce2 10/100/1000 and the 3c940 Marvell 10/100/1000, not that guy that was asking how long it too to format a 512gb hdd or whatever size it was.08:15
Gneapsi-jack: I see you were inquiring, albiet inefficiently, about the ubuntu installer08:16
psi-jackGnea: Correct.08:16
buckypsi-jack: go back to LFS like pre 1.008:16
Dr_Willismralexandro:  i got a wide desktop.. i can have lots.. :P08:16
jkesslerthis is too leet08:16
Gneapsi-jack: just FYI, we consider any 'bleeping' of a bad word to be the use of a bad word, since people know what you're saying. such language should be avoided here.08:16
Ghotibucky: Seriously. Please, try to be constructive.08:16
psi-jackGnea: Only on this one system, so far, does the Ubuntu installer run painfully slow.. So slow with the fbcons mode for text mode, it was so slow just drawing the screen. I had to use the boot option to stop fbcons from being used.08:16
Gneapsi-jack: what cpu/mem?08:17
GhotiGnea: that was me who bleeped. :p08:17
buckypsi-jack: use the text mode... like linux is supposed to be08:17
GneaGhoti: heh, if you scrollback to psi-jack's original question, you'll see what I mean :)08:17
bazhanggogeta, ??08:17
xray7224hey guys08:17
Gneahey xray722408:17
GhotiGnea: fair enough :)08:18
ramkumar_how i auto mount the partitions in my ubuntu...08:18
psi-jackGnea: Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT, 3gb DDR1 400MHz memory, running single-channel for now cause I found one of the 4 sticks were bad, 6 HDD's, DVD-ROM, DVD-RW, USB-based MMC/SD/MS/CF/SM drive, etc08:18
Ghotiramkumar_: see 'man mount'08:18
Gnea!fstab | ramkumar_08:18
ubotturamkumar_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:18
mralexandroDr_Willis: i think this gnome do will be very very useful and that you gave me a more complete solutin than just a dock, hope it does not steel to much performance08:18
beninghow can I change ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.04.08:18
gogetabazhang: im half asleep08:18
bazhanggogeta, please chat elsewhere08:18
Ghotibening: you need to upgrade to 8.10 first, and then from 8.10 to 9.0408:18
StraightDavehi guys, anyway to make mouse cursor move, ina remote ssh environment ?08:18
silv3r_m00nhi there08:18
* xray7224 <3 fstab :P08:18
ramkumar_ya i seen but it is mount only in root not in normal user..08:18
silv3r_m00nthis ubuntu netbook remix is a .img file... how do I install it in my netbook ?08:19
gogetabazhang: you ask and i havent even spoke yet08:19
Dr_Willismralexandro:  compared to the total Poopoo i see in other 'docks' its at least useable. :)08:19
IvozThe change password dialog just stays busy in ubuntu 9.04 when I change it. Does it take a really long time to do or something?08:19
Dr_Willissilv3r_m00n:  you 'dd' it to a usb flash drive..08:19
psi-jackGnea: Keeping in mind, OpenSUSE, FreeBSD, even Fedora's installer, was blazing fast, it's just Ubuntu's that's running slow as molasses.08:19
bazhangsilv3r_m00n, there is an imagewriter deb you can download08:19
Dr_Willissilv3r_m00n:  i think the unr download page gives details on how to do it  in windows and linux08:19
gogetabazhang: other the laughing at those 2 fight08:19
acro-asarva_what does this do?08:19
Gneapsi-jack: so, pretty decent. hrm. the installer isn't exactly optimized for any specific system, so different systems, despite newer specs, can sometimes respond slow during the installation phase, especially if the hardware itself isn't configured to the kernel right - ever tried doing a pci=routeirq?08:19
acro-asarva_:(){ :|:& };:08:19
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!08:19
Gneapsi-jack: and that's just on the one system?08:20
ramkumar_if i delete the image initrd.img then how i boot my ubuntu/fedora?08:20
mralexandroDr_Willis: agreed, problem solved, thousand thanks, times to move on to my next one, thanks alot!:D08:20
acro-asarva_:(){ :|:& };:08:20
apoloeo12what command???08:20
Dr_Willismralexandro:  somehow the gnomedo perferances ion got added to the dock now. :)08:20
psi-jackGnea: Yes, so far.. Though admittedly this is the only system yet I've done 8.04.3 on. I did install eBox 1.2, which is based on Ubuntu 8.04.2, on a Pentium 3 733 with 256mb RAM, and it was done before my system even got to the Partition Manager!08:20
gogetaGhoti: what dd thats not dangres08:20
mralexandroDr_Willis: i have it there because it is my most used one:D08:20
Dr_Willisacro-asarva_:  does an infinate loop.. google for it to learn more.08:20
Dr_Willismralexandro:  becuase its the most used recently i guess. :)08:21
Ghotigogeta: no, acro-asarva_ is the one that invoked the !danger08:21
Gneapsi-jack: interesting. 8.04, while is it the LTS release, is still considered a bit of a dinosaur to newer hardware. have you tried 9.04?08:21
Dr_Willisjust to make it clear 'dd' CAN be dangerous..if you make a typo...08:21
Ghotiacro-asarva_: that's a fork bomb; do not run that command.08:21
ramkumar_you see about that command in http://linuxmonk.org08:21
xray7224i have got to admit i have no idea what the thing he/she does08:21
gogetaacro-asarva_: issuing dd for image file is fine08:21
Dr_Willismake SURE you dd to the proper usb device.. :)08:21
mralexandroDr_Willis: and i found that you can right click the gnome-do icon and see prefrenses for the gnome do program, pluss some quick settings08:21
Dr_Willismralexandro:  yes. :) i was goingto mention that.. but you said you found the perferances allready08:22
psi-jackGnea: No, not yet. I wanted 8.04 because of the stability, quote-unquote.  And because I wanted to be able to fully try out a full-scale eBox setup. I have 9.04-server installed on my router box, and two database server computers.08:22
Ghoti(I was not saying 'dd' is !danger-ous, though like any command, it can be used to ill effect (: )08:22
GneaGhoti: that person was purporting destructive commands earlier08:22
ramkumar_hi friends plz reply for this If i delete the image initrd.img then hoe i boot my ubunt?08:22
mralexandroDr_Willis:  i think i figured the shelf function: right click an app there, and you will see it says add to shelf!08:22
Dr_Willismralexandro:  yes.. but what is a shelf then?08:23
Dr_Willismralexandro:  thats what i never noticed in the docs08:23
Gneapsi-jack: okay. so is this geared toward a work computer or a personal one?08:23
gogetaGnea: Dr_Willis would not issue a destructiv command08:23
Gneagogeta: no, acro-asarva_08:23
Dr_Willisgogeta:  with dd - all it takes is a typo.. :)08:23
Dr_Willisgogeta:  and i learned that  the hard way. :)08:23
GhotiDr_Willis: or with mv, or cp, or rm, or many other two character commands :)08:24
mralexandroDr_Willis: i think it is a function that let you bypass most used value and let the app stay untouched in its possition, disregarding the fact that it is used less than top apps08:24
gogetaDr_Willis: usefull if its a .img otherwise use cp or mv08:24
psi-jackGnea: It's geared towards a large home network of computers. I have a server farm here I'm putting together, and a audio/video streaming farm, comprised of about 20 computers in total.08:24
IvozWould anyone mind seeing if in ubuntu 9.04 System > Preferences > About Me > Change Password dialog works? It just goes busy and does nothing... the user accounts tool works though.08:24
psi-jackGnea: I installed 9.04-server on the other few systems, before I heard about eBox. ;)\08:24
Gneapsi-jack: so it's a personal system. I would go ahead and recommend 9.04-desktop08:24
GhotiIvoz: it worked just fine over here08:25
Ivozghoti - weird.. im on a very new install of ubuntu, the thing just hangs but the user and groups dialog worked!08:25
IvozGhoti: thanks08:25
gnrramkumar_:have you deleted it and rebooted?08:25
mralexandrodoeas anyone know if there is a way i can create a "shortcut"(yes i am an earlier windows user) to mount the windows partition with pasword already typed08:25
GhotiIvoz: happy to help08:25
psi-jackGnea: I'm not certain 9.04 works with eBox 100%, for the setup, That P3/733 I mentioned earlier, is what system's going to be doing 100% authentication via LDAP.08:25
Ghotimralexandro: add the windows partition to the fstab with the 'user' option; then anyone can mount it08:26
Ghoti!fstab | mralexandro08:26
ubottumralexandro: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:26
Dr_Willismralexandro:  the thing abotu that dock (and docks) ya either clutter up the whole bottom of the screen with lots of icons.. or ya get some desktop space wasted at the sides. :)08:26
Dr_Willismralexandro:  guess i could put a gnome pannel to one side. :)08:26
Gneapsi-jack: I missed the bit about the p3, not sure what that has to do with running a stable system..08:27
mralexandroGhoti: thanks08:27
mralexandroDr_Willis:  yes and you can take away the function casuing it to stay on top08:27
Ben64mralexandro: you need to add the password there too08:27
Ghotimralexandro: anytime; that'll be £8 :)08:27
mralexandroGhoti: :D:D08:27
psi-jackCrap, well, my Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop CD is a frisbee.08:27
Ghotipsi-jack: that's no fun08:28
Dr_Willismralexandro:  well i have tried most all the docks.. and i will say - this oneis the most useable..08:28
psi-jackHeh yeah.08:28
Dr_Willismralexandro:  all the rest never work well.. or are lacking features08:28
GhotiDr_Willis: when I want a dock, I just VNC into my Mac ;)08:28
gogetapsi-jack: we call em costers08:28
Dr_Willismralexandro:  and the win-space feature   is the main use.. the dock is a bonus.08:28
psi-jackI burned like 4-5 frisbees recently, of Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop (server was fine though), Ubuntu 8.04-Alternate, and eBox 1.208:28
mralexandroDr_Willis:  the win space is the winning over ALL :)08:29
psi-jackgogeta: I'm not you. ;) :)08:29
psi-jackI call 'em frisbees. heh08:29
ramkumar_sorry for the late gnr08:29
Dr_Willismralexandro:  if you can rember the special words for the plugins...08:29
Ghotipsi-jack: sure your drive and/or media aren't borked?08:29
ramkumar_i haven,t deleted but i want to know?08:29
gogetapsi-jack: tryn to make a ebox work?08:29
psi-jackIt's all good hardware.08:29
mralexandroDr_Willis: and i have never seen anything smarter than this lancher/dock, it is my new fav08:29
psi-jackgogeta: A series of them, yep.08:29
Simon_Wangwhen sending email with kmail, for the message of authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp08:29
Simon_Wanghow to solve08:30
gogetapsi-jack: issue?08:30
Ghotipsi-jack: I've had a bad batch of CDRs waste three days in trying to figure out some strange behavior08:30
Ben64/     /mnt/point               smbfs   username=[user],password=[password],uid=[uid],gid=[gid],users,noauto 0 008:30
Ben64thats what i use08:30
Ghotipsi-jack: then I noticed the media layer wasn't actually adhered to the plastic disc.  Good times.08:30
Ben64then i just type "mount /mnt/point" in my terminal and it mounts08:30
gnrramkumar_:then read bout initrd, if you the guts then delete it :)08:30
Ben64dont need sudo08:30
GhotiBen64: isn't it 'user', not 'users'?08:30
mralexandroBen64: thanks :) that was a helping hand.i was unsure about the setup08:31
Ben64i have users *shrug*08:31
gogetapsi-jack: your not just droping the iso on a disk are you08:31
GhotiBen64: if it works, it works :)08:31
user101Is there any way given any package I can build it statically which will statically include things like libc.so and so on?08:31
psi-jackgogeta: Of course not. :p08:31
ramkumar_what u mean gnr... i can,t understand..08:31
psi-jackHeh, well, holy heck.08:31
psi-jack9.04-Server, booted up smooth and fast as heck.08:31
gogetapsi-jack: be suprised how many do08:31
psi-jackGuess I could just install 9.04-server and install ubuntu-desktop08:32
ramkumar_ok...sorry i will learn about it...08:32
Ghotigogeta: I wouldn't be, heh08:32
ramkumar_and we will discuss later..08:32
ramkumar_how i edit an Os like ubuntu any idea plz...08:32
Keifferhow do you generate passwords from terminal?08:32
psi-jackThe 9.04 "Live Desktop" still doesn't support LVM, correct? Only the Alternate mode?08:33
mralexandroBen64: why the ip adress?08:33
GhotiKeiffer: look into the pwgen package08:33
Ben64oh, you should put in the ip of the computer you want to access from08:33
Ben64i was just making stuff up08:33
livingdaylightquestion: i've installed samba to allow my two ubuntu machines to share folders08:33
Ghotilivingdaylight: that's a statement.08:34
livingdaylightbut cant access.. won't accept password08:34
ramkumar_why ubuntu 9.04 doesn,t have wvdial08:34
aaron11Ben64:what do you want08:34
mralexandroBen64: i got it, but it is not neccessary at a local mount right?08:34
Ben64aaron-: one billion dollars08:34
Ghotiramkumar_: yes it does08:34
ramkumar_i think samba is to share the folders with Windows and linux08:34
livingdaylightI've right-clicked and gone share options it automatically installed samba - i can see the folders but can't mount them08:34
Ben64mralexandro: it does need an ip to work08:34
Ben64or a hostname could work, but i find that less reliable08:35
ramkumar_but while i am trying there is no wvdial ghoti08:35
IvozI installed firestarter on ubuntu 9.04, but it seems to be blocking from from viewing windows shares. Samba is enabled, but the firewall is seeing an unknown service connect on a pretty random port whenever i try to open a windows computer on the network. Can i configure samba differently or something?08:35
Ghotiramkumar_: http://pastebin.com/f2647752908:36
mralexandroBen64: so in my case the ip should be what ip my local computer display for lan or something?08:36
Ben64whatever computer that has the share you want mounted08:36
livingdaylightanyone know why i can't mount my files?08:37
Ghotilivingdaylight: is there a reason you're wanting to use samba to share between two Linux boxen rather than, say, NFS or SSHFS?08:37
livingdaylightGhoti: because that is what was recommended08:37
psi-jackOr even better, Coda?08:37
arpad_hi i got a problem with a display driver, after grub i can't see shit. what would be the solution for me, please help08:37
mralexandroBen64: /dev/sdax then ? :D it is on this computer on the same disk08:37
Ghoti!language | arpad_08:37
ubottuarpad_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:37
ugliefrogis there any voice command programs for ubuntu08:37
Ghotipsi-jack: Note to self: look at Coda08:37
livingdaylightGhoti: also when i right-click on a folder and choose share option Ubuntu automatically installs and uses samba08:38
Ben64mralexandro: why do you want to mount a drive as samba?08:38
Ben64seems pretty redundant08:38
Ivozhow do u configure samba?08:38
psi-jackGhoti: There's other good distributed filesystems too, but Coda allows offline access which is REAAAAALLY nice.08:38
aaron11!language | Ben6408:38
ubottuBen64: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:38
Ghoti!samba | ivoz08:38
ubottuivoz: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.08:38
psi-jackGhoti: And 100% supported by Linux.08:38
bazhangaaron11, ??08:38
arpad_hi i got a problem with a display driver, after grub i can't see nothing. what would be the solution for me, please hel08:38
Ben64not a bad word, check it out08:38
arpad_sorry about the bad word08:38
aaron11dont TAKE it seriously08:39
bazhangaaron11, joke elsewhere08:39
livingdaylightGhoti: any ideas?08:39
aaron11i just wanted to try it out08:39
aaron11new to IRC08:39
Ghotilivingdaylight: Wish I could help, but I haven't set up Samba in a long time08:39
bazhangaaron11, /msg ubottu08:39
spOthere is ubuntu , kubuntu, and xubuntu,  is there any more ubuntu?08:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:39
livingdaylightGhoti: if you right click on a folder and want to share it installs samba08:39
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  you may need to install the 'samba' package befor that shareing stuff works08:40
Ben64mralexandro: also, /dev/sdax wouldn't work for samba08:40
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  ive had issues in the past where it wouldent auto-install samba.  but that may be fixed by now.08:40
zvacet1spO:I don´t think so08:40
livingdaylightGhoti: i should just be able to go to other box - and i do see the folder - mount it and access files, but it refuses passwords08:40
psi-jack9.04-server stalled on "Installing the base system" at 83%, retrieving file 2 of 908:40
mralexandroBen64: i just want my winvista partition to automount in ubuntu, i have to use a local ip then?08:40
Ghotilivingdaylight: Yes, but I don't use Samba, I use NFS, so my ability to assist you with Samba troubles will be limited :-/08:40
kamilI have trouble with wifi - WiFi Link 5100AGN - I have a module iwl5000 that include support for my wifi but instead after sudo lsmod | grep iwl* I only have iwl4965 loaded in I run make load my computer freezes ... can somebody help me ..08:40
Dr_Willismralexandro:  er.. mounting a partition on the machines hard drive? thats just editing fstab..08:41
livingdaylightDr_Willis: it has auto-installed samba, and i DO see the folder shared, it just won't mount08:41
Ghotilivingdaylight: if you are connectinb from box A to box B, use login credentials from box B, not A.08:41
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  mount what/where? whos mounting what?08:41
mralexandroDr_Willis: which is what i am trying to do(but i am windows user) :)08:41
Dr_Willisto 'share' a windows partition on a linxu box.. you MIGHT have to have it mounted automatically via /etc/fstab so the mountpoint wont change.08:41
livingdaylightDr_Willis: me, I am mounting. What? Box A from Box B08:41
livingdaylightGhoti: yes, that is what i'm doing08:42
Dr_WillisI recall issues  once with trying to 'share' an 'automounting'  windows ntfs filesystem.08:42
UnWindЗдравствуйте, есть кто ?08:42
Ghotilivingdaylight: I'm afraid that's all the Samba advice I have :(08:43
UnWindКто по русски разговарвиает.08:43
bazhangUnWind, #ubuntu-ru08:43
zvacet!ru | UnWind:08:43
Ghoti!ru | UnWind08:43
ubottuUnWind:: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke08:43
ubottuUnWind: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke08:43
Ivozis there a better firewall than firestarter? it doesn't seem to be able to recognise samba08:43
mralexandroDr_Willis: hmm alright well, let me know if you find a good way of doing it:)08:43
* Gonium ausente: Ausente por el momento08:44
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India08:44
UnWindСлушайте это американский канал ?08:44
Ghoti!ru | UnWind08:44
ubottuUnWind: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke08:44
Dr_Willismralexandro:  i always pit my ntfs drives in /etc/fstab now a days.. i dont trust gnomes automounting of stuff.. too many issues08:44
skyleri have this problem with my wireless network, it seems to just cut off randomly08:44
bazhangUnWind, /join #ubuntu-ru08:44
skylerdoes anyone else have this issue?08:44
ramkumar_tell about iptables08:44
mralexandroDr_Willis: then i will as well, problem solved:D08:45
Ghotiskyler: turn off the Tesla coil and Ven der Graff generators in the garage? :)08:45
skylerit may go hours before it does it but sometimes minutes, and it usually requires me to restart to fix it08:45
skylerhaha, man i knew i shouldve thrown those things out08:45
skylerim using ubuntu 90408:45
skylerand running eeepc100508:46
mralexandroBen64: thanks for the effort, i had no idea what samba was and how complicated it was:)08:46
Ghotiskyler: are you using Ubuntu or Eeebuntu?08:46
kamil I have trouble with wifi - WiFi Link 5100AGN - I have a module iwl5000 that include support for my wifi but instead after sudo lsmod | grep iwl* I only have iwl4965 loaded in I run make load my computer freezes ... can somebody help me ..08:47
psi-jackUgh! Fricken Ubuntu installer! You'd THINK 9.04-server would actually let you setup LVM with all the LVM options, like STRIPING08:47
TwoTwentypis-jacl: why use ubuntu server ?08:47
psi-jackTwoTwenty: Maybe I'm installing a server?08:48
TwoTwentypsi-jack: why not use debian or gentoo or slackware08:48
psi-jackTwoTwenty: Why not you be quiet and stop butting into other people's distribution decisons?08:48
sudobashwell you can configure ubuntu-desktop to be a sever also08:48
GhotiTwoTwenty: is this really the place to advocate other distros? :p08:49
sudobashthe only real diff are packages and config08:49
TwoTwentypsi-jack: im merely asking for reasons maybe they will become my own08:49
bazhangpsi-jack, please keep it civil08:49
sudobashbest servers would be unix/bsd08:49
majnoonTwoTwenty, ubuntu good enough for experts ,but also have the experts to help (when they AWAKE)08:49
psi-jackTwoTwenty: Server installs only the bare minimums, plus tasksel is equiped to install server-related packages, not desktop.08:49
bazhangTwoTwenty, better to discuss in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here08:49
zvacetsudobash:  and kernel of course08:49
sudobashubuntu is plenty good for experts and noobs alike08:50
majnoonnewbie friendly AND expert setups08:50
gogetapsi-jack: acully the pro mini iso installs only the basics08:50
jkesslerand the noobs who think they are experts08:50
majnoonjkessler, i kinda resemble that remark08:51
jkesslerit's a big category08:51
psi-jackSo, I'm guessing Ubuntu's installer still only has VERY minimal LVM support, eh?08:51
Ghotimajnoon: I find that resemblance remarkable08:51
sudobasheveryone does really there is always something to learn08:51
gogetapsi-jack: lvm needs tro be installed08:51
livingdaylightGhoti: do you think samba needs to be installed on one or both systems?08:51
gogetapsi-jack: you can do it from the live cd if your doing a vlm install08:51
majnoon<--in middle but closer to newbie08:52
sudobashwe only work and can do what we understand08:52
Ghotilivingdaylight: the server needs to be installed on the machine hosting the files; the client on the one requesting the files from the server08:52
sudobashthat goes for the devs also08:52
gogetapsi-jack: sudo apt-get install lvm208:52
skylerdoes no one else have this problem though?08:52
Ghotigogeta: methinks psi-jack's machine isn't in a place where apt-get is operational08:52
psi-jackgogeta: Yeah yeah, That's what I'm going to do, because I want my striping, and when I reconfigured it to use two logical volumes instead of one, for / and /home seperation, it went from being striped to *cringe* linear08:52
livingdaylightGhoti: so if i want both systems to be able to access one another, both would need samba?08:52
TwoTwentyskyler: what problem08:53
sudobashsorry i missed your q skyler08:53
Ghotilivingdaylight: both would need both the server and the client08:53
majnooni got into ubuntu because i LOVE apt-get and the people MORE friendly then #debian08:53
bazhang!ot > majnoon08:53
ubottumajnoon, please see my private message08:53
gogetajkessler: noobs who think there experts rite just a certed redhat user hear i dont now a thing08:53
psi-jackgogeta: Quite frankly, with 6 120GB HDD's, linear would be kinda useless. But with Striping, it makes it SOOOOO fast.08:53
sudobashlivingdaylight: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs08:53
skylermy network randomly quit and usually require a restart for it to work again08:53
livingdaylightGhoti: if both machines havce the same username - could that cause a conflict?08:53
sudobashdo that on both machines08:53
skylersometimes it stays on for hour08:53
skylerand other times just a few minutes08:53
Ghotimajnoon: I love apt-get, but I still miss portage sometimes, to be honest :)08:53
Ghotilivingdaylight: I don'e see how08:53
majnoonsame IDEA i think Ghoti08:54
TwoTwentyskyler: are you using wireless?08:54
sudobashskyler: msg me...08:54
skylerubuntu 90408:54
livingdaylightGhoti: just grasping at straws08:54
TwoTwentyskyler: what wireless card ?08:54
damad_what is a good channel for browsing for movies?08:54
majnoontakes care of the dependencies08:54
sudobashI just wrote a little tut for someone else on network troubleshooting08:54
bazhangdamad_, not on this network08:54
gogetapsi-jack: or a raid0 setup08:54
majnoonsudobash, mesg me the url ??08:54
psi-jackgogeta: I prefer LVM over softraid.08:54
gogetapsi-jack: you just said lvm was useless08:55
psi-jackgogeta: LVM linear, not LVM Striping.08:55
TwoTwentyskyler: have you tried reinitializing IP through DHCP after it goes off?08:55
psi-jackgogeta: Ubuntu's Alternate installer only supports creating LVM Linear, but not Stripes.08:55
Keifferselinux messeup up my ubuntu08:55
psi-jackAlternate and Server08:55
damad_anybody know o a good movie channel?08:55
gogetapsi-jack: oh well that setup is up to you when you setup lvm i just pointed you on how to make the installer use it08:55
skylerwell, it asks for the passcode, and sometimes it works when i type it in, sometimes it doent08:55
bazhangdamad_, no. stop asking here.08:55
majnoonGhoti, there ARE some RPM based distros starting to use a form of apt-get08:56
psi-jackgogeta: The console mode installation, Server or Alternate mode, does support LVM, BUT it only lets you create linear volumes, not striped volumes.08:56
zvacet!ot | damad_08:56
ubottudamad_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:56
Ghotimajnoon: I've shoehorned apt-rpm onto centros, but it was ug-lee08:56
psi-jackgogeta: Which is very upsetting.08:56
gogetamajnoon: they have there own version of apt for years as well as yum08:56
TwoTwentyskyler: a common misconception with wireless pascodes and netowrk monitor  (the networking app in ubuntu) is the code, one is a keyring code  and the other is the wireless key08:56
sudobashit was for a specific problem but it will help you I am sure skyler08:57
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gogetapsi-jack: thers a way to do it post install08:57
livingdaylightsudobash: maybe you can help me with samba here. I've been told to install samba to be able to share folders /files between two linux boxes. On the laptop i installed it via command line. On the Desktop i right-clicked on the folder and clicked on the 'share option' it automatically installed samba. Both computer can now see each others folders, but when i attempt to mount it refuses the password08:57
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TwoTwentythe the wireless key is the password to wireless.. the keyring passcode is one you made the first time you setup wireless08:57
psi-jackgogeta: To change linear volumes to striped volumes, for / ? No, no there's not.08:57
majnoonwith linux the good ideas USUALLY spread out to ALL distros08:57
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  give the users samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'08:57
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bazhangmajnoon, please take chat elsewhere08:58
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  for linux to linux. You could also use 'nfs' or 'ssh' (or sshfs) to access files on the remote box's08:58
TwoTwentyskyler: the the wireless key is the password to wireless.. the keyring passcode is one you made the first time you setup wireless08:58
sudobashDr_willis is right or you can allow guest access to your share for anonymous users08:58
gogetapsi-jack: yes logical volume mangment its a redhat tool ported to ubuntu has a gui to08:58
sudobashbut I would just apply passwords08:58
gogetapsi-jack: we warned thow all changes are instant08:58
R2D21Ok too talk hardware?08:59
bazhang##hardware R2D2108:59
psi-jackgogeta: Again, you can NOT convert linear volumes to striped volumes.08:59
jkesslerlol this is like #ubuntu-directoryassistance08:59
livingdaylightDr_Willis: i know but earlier people on #ubuntu recommended samba, now people recommend something else :/   Ubuntu mind you automatically chose samba too when i took the right-click on folder route to explore the 'share option' I'd be happy to use NFS but samba should work too08:59
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  all can work.. you dident mention Linux to linux.. earlier.08:59
psi-jacklivingdaylight: Whomever recommended Samba for sharing files between Linux systems, was an idiot.08:59
gogetapsi-jack you dont make lvm at install you do it after09:00
gogetapsi-jack: no conversion just setup later09:00
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:   the cifs stuff works very well for linux to linux.. but it depends on your exact needs.  plus if you ever get a windows machineonthe lan you will want to use samba.09:00
livingdaylightDr_Willis: but i did earlier when i came in 6hrs ago09:00
psi-jackgogeta: Oy. My / is LVM striped over 6 drives.09:00
psi-jackgogeta: You cannot set that up, POST install.09:00
gogetapsi-jack: heh bit to late09:00
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  I only just now saw you say  'linux to linux' its not like using samba is going to hurt anything.09:01
gogetapsi-jack: be suprised what you can do09:01
livingdaylightDr_Willis: why is samba not a good option between linux 2 linux?09:01
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  you could use samba, nfs, and sshfs all the same time.09:01
xanguahello there, i have some problem with one css that needs 2 addons to work ....... http://userstyles.org/styles/2131 ;  i have both addons installed and follower the instructions over anr over again with no results ; i hope some one can help me with this09:01
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  samba is  a bit slower. and has limitations.  it depends on how you are going to use it.09:01
livingdaylightDr_Willis: i think i've found the issue and fixed it!09:01
psi-jackgogeta: I'd rather less headache than volume juggling / around partitions and volumes.09:01
livingdaylightDr_Willis: what limitations?09:01
majnoonAdvances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.— Bernard Haisch09:02
bazhangxangua, better to ask in #css09:02
psi-jackgogeta: Which is basically what you're suggesting, by doing it post install. Juggling.09:02
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  read up on the samba sites/docs  -  for one thing..   if ya make a directory called "Stuff" and another called 'stuff' :) it can get confused.09:02
xanguathanks bazhang09:02
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  given how common samba is.. you will want to learn about it eventually09:02
Dr_Willis!info samba-doc09:02
ubottusamba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.1 (jaunty), package size 7806 kB, installed size 16060 kB09:02
gogetapsi-jack: i prefer having my fs corhernet if the lvm is disconnected09:02
gst-kapsDr_Willis: gparted is hanging, even in case of the live gparted cd, it says serching /dev/sda partition ?09:03
gogetapsi-jack: liner09:03
bazhangmajnoon, stay on topic09:03
majnooni USUALLY do in here09:03
psi-jackgogeta: I prefer getting the speed out of 6 drives, by using striping.09:03
Dr_Willisgst-kaps:  theres options you can give gparted from the command line. Or try the 'fdisk' command I guess.. i normally use 'fdisk' for simple tasks09:03
majnoonbut was basically explaining WHY i chose ubuntu that SORTA on topic09:03
psi-jackgogeta: LVM volumes can be snapshot to my external solid-state HDD in case of failure.09:04
bazhangmajnoon, no, its not. #ubuntu-offtopic for that.09:04
psi-jackgogeta: And thus, restored, relatively easily.09:04
livingdaylightDr_Willis: but you think nfs is better between linux machines? why?09:04
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:   nfs works very well for me.09:04
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  for a quick 'shareing of data' i tend to use 'sshfs'09:04
psi-jackDr_Willis: Curious about something. Do you use any LDAP or NIS+ for user sharing for NFS? ;)09:05
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  i got a 5 pc lan. :) i dont use those things for it.09:05
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  i got 3 users. :)09:05
livingdaylightDr_Willis: apt-get install sshfs?09:05
psi-jackSo you just match uid for uid on each system?09:05
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  try it and see. :)09:05
Dr_Willis!info sshfs09:05
ubottusshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-1 (jaunty), package size 39 kB, installed size 148 kB09:05
psi-jackDr_Willis: I have about 20 I'm putting together, including Mini-ITX systems hooked up to my televisons to handle audio/video streaming. ;)09:06
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  you need windows 7! that will only cost you like.... err... $80*2009:07
psi-jackDr_Willis: Heh, err... NO! I cannot agree with the EULA.09:07
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  get someole else to click on it.. that way you dident agree to it.09:08
psi-jackDr_Willis: Heh09:08
sudobashcrap another night up until 409:08
livingdaylightDr_Willis: does it it take up much cpu energy or ram to keep folders mounted?09:08
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  i wouldent think so.09:08
psi-jackDr_Willis: Unfortunately, it's for the system, not the person that clicks I Agree09:08
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  you going to mount 10000 of them?09:09
mralexandrois there a good radio program for ubuntu?09:09
livingdaylightDr_Willis: no, /home09:09
livingdaylightjust /home09:09
sudobashpandora.com works with flash in firefox09:09
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  having /home mounted over nfs CAN have... issues :)09:09
livingdaylightnot even... /home/video ; /home/Documents09:09
bazhangmralexandro, to play radio, or ubuntu podcasts09:09
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  it sucks if your home 'server' crashes09:09
Dr_Willisthat can really confuse the running apps09:10
livingdaylightDr_Willis: well, i've got samba working now... where i had gone wrong was the names... I had to change from WORKGROUP to network:///09:10
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  i tend to mount remote box's to like /nfs/machine1   and  /nfs/machine2 and so on.09:10
psi-jackHaving my database server burn my Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop CD is such a pain. heh09:10
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  set the workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf  perhaps?09:11
livingdaylightDr_Willis: i see you actually create a folder called /nfs09:11
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  yes and a subdir for each macihne to keep things organized09:11
livingdaylightDr_Willis: i see, thank you09:11
Dr_Willislivingdaylight:  perment sshfs mounts in /sshfs/ :)09:11
mralexandrobazhang: to play radio not ubuntu podcasts09:12
bazhangmralexandro, streamtuner ?09:14
Dr_Willisstreamtuner or tunapie is handy09:14
udiioQ: how do I easily touch the "Version" line of a deb control file from bash?09:14
ideamonkguys I copy pasted all ttf fonts of windows into my /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/ and started using them... but all im getting is squares when I use them... i tried fc-cache -v -f , where did i go wrong?09:14
Dr_Willisideamonk:  i just copy them to my users .fonts directory and reboot last time.  there was some command I never can rember to run...09:15
xanguaideamonk: to install windows fonts, adobe flash, codecs, etc: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras09:15
xanguathah only if you use ubuntu-gnome desktop09:16
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts   Note: After you install a new font, you will need to make sure that programs in which you want to use the new fonts can recognize them. In most cases this is done by closing and reopening the programs; however, some programs may require you to log out and log back in.09:16
ideamonkxangua, woah! that easy... damn i wasted time :)09:16
Dr_Willisideamonk:  unless you had windows fonts not included inthe restricted-extas :)09:17
mralexandrobazhang: thanks09:17
Dr_Willisideamonk:  just be thankfull linux is no longer likeit used to be where using ttf required leet-skills and haxoring code! :)09:18
ideamonkhmm i notice, the permission for ttf fonts that i copied into my fonts folder is different :)09:18
xanguammmm i am unable to get help snif..... :((09:18
^cheekyumm hi, i really not sure how to ask this question , but i have a ubuntu server  connected to my router and i just portforwarded  http to my server, in my router does this mean .. in anyway be dangerous ?09:18
ideamonkYAAY done, i was just a chmod away... thanks guys :)09:18
Adrossi have a usb flash voyager disk. 16 gig and formatted to vfat. It's not mounting in ubuntu, xp, or vista. However, in vista, i can initially browse the device, though try to open anything gives me a warning that the disk is not inserted. When inserted in ubuntu, it shows up as /dev/sdb only, there is no entry for it's partitions. Ideas?09:19
enzotib_Adross: have you tried to re-format it?09:20
Dr_Willisor 'zero' the device with dd. then reformat - if just reformating fails09:22
Dr_Willisand i have seen usb-flash drives fail/break09:22
Adrossyes. But vista right click/format option complains of the lack of a disk, it doesn't show up in gparted, and the mkfs command complains that No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size09:22
Dr_WillisAdross:  may be worth the effort to 'zero' it out..09:23
Dr_Willisyou have tried it on othe rmachines/usb ports?09:23
AdrossDr_Willis, right now i'm willing to contend it is. How do i do that?09:25
Dr_WillisAdross:  figure out the /dev/DEVICENAME (like /dev/sdi) then...09:26
mralexandroi have trouble in virtualbox. i have a virtual xp installation that i used in vista. cause i moved my xp into my vista. or into virtual disk. now i was hoping i could access my virtual xp in linux via virtual box. but i get blue screen in the start. i am sure it has to do with the way it read the hardisk. is there a spesific way that vmware set up its partition. cause i have tried mounting as both09:26
mralexandroide and sta09:26
Dr_WillisAdross:  and DONT dd the wrong device. :)09:26
Dr_WillisAdross:  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/DEVICENAME09:26
Dr_WillisAdross:  theres a BS=1024 option that may help if go faster09:26
johnny_too much windowz talk for a lin room...09:26
^cheekyif i port forwarded "port 80 ",  to my ubuntu server , wouldnt i be able to connect to my machine via the internet ?09:27
johnny_gives me the creeps09:27
Dr_Willis^cheeky:  in theory yes.09:27
firecrotch^cheeky: Usually.09:27
^cheekyDr_Willis, hi, well um i put in my ip but it takes to my router :S09:27
^cheekymy external ip that is09:28
johnny_damn ip stealin' router..09:28
^cheekyhuh ?09:28
firecrotch^cheeky: from inside your network?09:28
Dr_Willissounds like the router is not set up  right09:28
bazhangjohnny_, ??09:28
user101Is there any way given any package I can build it statically which will statically include things like libc.so and so on?09:28
firecrotch^cheeky: some routers will do that from inside the network09:28
johnny_just jokin, yes sir?09:28
bazhangthis is a support channel johnny_ ; did you have a support question?09:28
johnny_i'm thinkin'09:29
^cheekyfirecrotch, so how would i connect to it ?, as it should i just put in my external ip into my browser?09:29
bazhangjohnny_, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic09:29
johnny_oki dokie09:29
firecrotch^cheeky: I just use the internal IP of the server when trying to connect to it from inside my network09:29
AdrossDr_Willis, opening `/dev/sdb': No medium found09:30
Dr_WillisAdross:  that sounds like the usb flash drive is really really goofed.09:30
^cheekyfirecrotch, yeah i did that it works fine (internal ip) that is, but if put my external ip its just opens my router :S09:30
Dr_WillisAdross:  you still got the receipt? :)09:30
firecrotch^cheeky: that's what my router does too - it works properly when connection from outside the network to my external IP though09:31
AdrossDr_Willis, I can get a refund09:31
Dr_WillisAdross:   try on some other machines /port till its seen... but i wouldent trust it...09:31
AdrossDr_Willis, it's been working fine for weeks09:32
Adrosswithout any incident09:32
Adrossjust this morning in fact09:32
firecrotch^cheeky: it looks to me like it works fine from outside of your network :)09:32
jezi22guys what is the difference of aptitude to apt-get?09:32
^cheekyfirecrotch, yeah coz my mate, seems to able to connect to it, i mean .. so i take it my server now it not protected by my firewall ?09:32
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^cheekyfirecrotch, what you connected to :S09:33
firecrotch^cheeky:   :)09:33
^cheekyfirecrotch, umm can i pm you for a min pls if you dont mind09:33
firecrotch^cheeky: sure09:34
Dr_Willishttp://  works here.. Look at all that porn!09:34
Dr_Willisoh wait.. thats
ectospasmDr_Willis: works too!09:35
spOi have ubuntu desktop edition, but when i plug in my hard drives it does not automount them.... but it does automount flashdrives09:37
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gogetaiceroot: stop braking you pc aruldy :)09:39
icerootgogeta: what?09:39
spOso no one has ever had a problem with usb automounting?09:40
spOwith hal?09:40
Dr_WillisspO:  not really09:40
Dr_Willisplug in the gizmo, chedk 'dmesg' output09:40
oldude67i dont even know a hal.:(09:41
Dr_WillisIF the disks are ntfs filesystems. that were uncleanly unmounted by windows.. then it may refuse to mount them.09:41
Dr_Willis'hal - he opens the pod bay doors right?'09:41
jamiewanyes dave09:42
spOand ther eis no way to clean them if they are unclean09:42
spOand by unclean you also mean that they could have been uncleanly unmounted by ubuntu, right?09:42
Dr_Willishmmm.. gnome-do can tile and cascade windows... thats a feature that gnomehas needed for a while09:43
oldude67i need to get me a usb hard drive and a wireless card, so i can join in all this fun..:D09:44
sercikafter installing restrictged drivers X doesn't start anymore09:44
sercikhow can i revert ?09:44
spOdr, if you just disconnect or turn off a power of a usb drive, then it is not unclean so that ubuntu won't mount it anymore, will it?09:44
huwenfengany one using Intel 4500 video card with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?09:44
Total_Oblivionhello:) how can i activate and use the windiws burn effect @ ubuntu?09:45
Dr_WillisspO:   so this is a NTFS filesytem drive? or linux filesystem?09:46
firecrotchspO: If you just cut the power to a USB drive without unmounting it, its pretty much a crapshoot as to what state it will be in09:46
spOit is ntfs09:46
sercikyou can force mount09:47
serciksee ntfs-3g man page09:47
spOcan linux clean ntfs drives?09:47
firecrotchspO: In that case, its probably more likely that there'll be a problem than if it was ext3, for example09:47
FloodBot3Golden_Eagle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:47
Dr_WillisspO:  then plug it into a windows sstem.. let windows scan/check it..  properly unmount and then try to accessit from linux09:47
sercikhow can i read -x log errors?09:47
jamiewanTotal_Oblivion: do you mean paint fire on screen?09:47
castrichardcavell: make install only needs root if you don't have permissions to write wherever it's installing09:47
Golden_Eagleу меня ubuntu на virtual box. как получить доступ к файла windows из под него?09:48
kiaas_Yesterday, the buttons on my keyboard actually controlled the sound. now they bring up the thing, but it doesn't display as having any volume there, and doesn't change when I press the buttons.(neither does the sound)09:48
sercikthat stupid compiz effect when uoi close windows09:48
castrichardcavell: i suggest using stow so things don't become a unmaintainable mess if you're make installing things09:48
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kiaas_when I click "volume control" I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" it worked a while ago. That and the buttons on my keyboard are now broken, and Virtual box is giving me a new error about the audio being unresponsive. My uptime is 10 days, I don't want to restart, but I'm wondering if that would fix it? :(09:51
psi-jackkiaas_: Most likely, pulseaudio went fubar.09:52
mralexandrois there a log saved form the irssi channels or conversations?09:53
psi-jackmralexandro: Not generally by default no.09:53
mralexandropsi-jack: could you help me set it up?09:53
richardcavellcast: I don't have it installed09:53
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kiaas_psi-jack, is there a simple way to restart pulseaudio?09:54
castrichardcavell: no, you wouldn't.09:54
oldude67kiaas_, is it like alsa and just pulseaudio restart?09:55
kiaas_oldude67, I'll try that.09:55
ShawnCHi, I am having problems on ubuntu, I am using ubuntu 8.04 and my audio randomly stops working/randomly my mouse freezes/randomly I can't click the shutdown button at the top right so I have to hard shutdown. Anyone know how I can fix this?09:56
abhifxcan someone help me with unetbootin09:56
psi-jackoldude67: No, it's not.09:56
psi-jackoldude67: pulseaudio last I checked in Ubuntu, which has been a while, mind you, runs at login by the user logging in.09:56
oldude67psi-jack, dont know uninstalled it, doesnt like my intel sound card.09:57
kiaas_pulseaudio restart gives lots of errors :/09:57
psi-jackkiaas_: Now, let me get this straight. You mentioned VirtualBox. Is Ubuntu running in the virtualbox, or is something else?09:57
psi-jackoldude67: I always remove pulseaudio right off.09:57
psi-jackoldude67: I have a GOOD sound card that doesn't need a software mixer.09:57
kiaas_psi-jack, Ubuntu is running on hardware. Vbox is on ubuntu, running win7.09:57
richardcavellpsi-jack: if you do that do you still get sound?09:57
psi-jackrichardcavell: Of course I do!09:57
oldude67richardcavell, yes09:57
psi-jackPulseAudio to me is HORRIBLE.09:58
oldude67alsa still works09:58
richardcavellWell, I'm running Karmic, and every time they update PulseAudio it breaks more and more09:58
psi-jackALSA is the actual sound system Linux uses, PulseAudio is NOT the audio system drivers.09:58
xlqOSS is another sound system Linux uses09:58
psi-jackOSS is deprecated.09:58
xlqNot any more.09:58
psi-jackIt won't be in the kernel too much longer.09:58
psi-jackxlq: Linus already decided it's going bye bye.09:58
gogetarichardcavell: pulse is just a alisa overlay thats saupposed to make it better but it can be removed09:58
castxlq: not anymore you say?09:59
ShawnCHi, I am having problems on ubuntu, I am using ubuntu 8.04 and my audio randomly stops working/randomly my mouse freezes/randomly I can't click the shutdown button at the top right so I have to hard shutdown. Anyone know how I can fix this?09:59
richardcavellgogeta: so if I uninstalled pulse I'd still have sound?09:59
xlqcast: apparently09:59
gogetarichardcavell: should09:59
mralexandrogoodnight everybody09:59
psi-jackxlq: OSS is still deprecated in the linux kernel.09:59
xlqI installed PulseAudio at my first opportunity.09:59
xlqpsi-jack: oh, in the *kernel*...09:59
psi-jackxlq: Yeah, IN THE KERNEL. ALSA provides OSS compatability.10:00
ShawnCHi, I am having problems on ubuntu, I am using ubuntu 8.04 and my audio randomly stops working/randomly my mouse freezes/randomly I can't click the shutdown button at the top right so I have to hard shutdown. Anyone know how I can fix this? the only way I can solve this is by hard shutdown then turning back on the comp and it's fixed for a few hours :(10:00
xlqpsi-jack: is your nick named after the sound server?10:00
psi-jackxlq: No10:00
mrgenericuserShawnC have you run memtest on your machine to make sure you don't have bad ram??10:00
ShawnC1.5 gb10:01
ShawnCof ram10:01
oldude67ShawnC, what video card are you running as well?10:01
Anarhisthello i have a machine i just successfully installed ubuntu on, but it has no internets, i have tried to use apt-zip, but before using that i would need to run 'apt-get update' which i can't because it is offline10:01
ShawnCHow will I figure out the video card10:01
kiaas_ShawnC, um, that means nothing to memtest. It makes sure the ram is actually good, not how much of it there is10:01
PAPUL_hey papul10:01
ShawnCand terminal doesn't run10:01
ShawnCand programs don't open properl10:01
psi-jackCrap crap crap.. Ubuntu didn't install grub on the right location.10:02
oldude67ShawnC, try memtest and check the hard drive.10:02
kiaas_ShawnC, my computer did that a lot with my wireless card enabled.10:02
abhifxcan someone help me with unetbootin?10:02
ShawnCBRB, lemme reboot10:02
Dr_Willisabhifx:  in what way?10:02
ShawnCso I can run terminal...10:02
abhifxinstaling linux with it10:02
abhifxi have already booted in a live mode.10:03
abhifxbut cabt install from the live session10:04
psi-jackOy.. That's another factor of Ubuntu I don't like, it doesn't like using the proper methods of putting Grub on a bootable partition, instead of on the MBR where it doesn't ever need to be.10:04
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  thats debateable i guess.. but then again. i dont recall any dissrtos doing it other ways.10:05
Dr_Willisi guess some do ask. :)10:05
abhifxplz help me install ubuntu from unetbootin10:05
mrgenericuserdoes anyone else run multiple monitors with separate x screens?10:05
Dr_Willismrgenericuser:  i have befor.. but i dont see the need for seperate X screens10:06
spOdmesg doesn't even list my ntfs usb drives10:06
KB1JWQspO: Obviously.10:06
abhifxis there a way to install ubuntu without a cd10:06
Dr_WillisspO:  it will show info  as you plugin/remove the devices10:06
KB1JWQdmesg is the kernel log; if you're using NTFS-3g, it's using FUSE.10:06
KB1JWQThe U in FUSE stands for Userspace/Userland10:07
Dr_Willisplug in.. wait a few sec...  check dmesg...10:07
mrgenericuserrunning nvidia card, combined x (twinview) fullscreen games try to use the full width of the x desktop and game is split between screens, looks bad.10:07
spOmaybe i need to install fuse packages then10:07
Dr_Willismrgenericuser:    You could just disable one screeen  launch game.. then restore it..10:07
KB1JWQspO: It should already handle that for you automatically.10:07
spOis there a file system that is supported by windows and linux?10:07
mrgenericuserand my secondary screen is left of my primary10:07
Dr_Willismrgenericuser:  most games ive tried dont have that issue.. only some of the older/badly programmed ones.10:07
abhifxahem... can anybody help me in installing ubuntu without burning it10:08
richardcavellsp0: yes10:08
mrgenericuseropenarena and wesnoth10:08
mrgenericuserdont run wine for windows games, just dont run windows games anymore10:08
KB1JWQabhifx: How do you propose to install it?10:08
Dr_Willisabhifx:  download unetbootin, run it.. point it to the ubuntu.iso and your flash drive.. let it copy files over... boot flash drive.10:08
xlqsp0: ntfs, vfat, and ext2/ext3 with a third-party driver for Windows10:08
Dr_WillisHm wesnoth fullscrerned fine for me the other day.. let me try again10:08
zetheroowell this is big .. what a letdown ... Ubuntu loosing its edge with hardware support ... it used to be tops in that respect ...10:09
xlqzetheroo: what's failed you now?10:09
zetheroomy wifi10:09
mrgenericuserthe only problem i have with separate x screens, is that i cant force apps launced on the second screen to open on that screen......10:09
abhifx kb1jwq : i ws trying with unetbootin10:09
abhifxDr_willis: i hv already done that10:09
abhifxbut i wont let me install it on a dedicated partition10:09
samboI updated ubuntu hardy  now my installation is broken, the wireless is not detected, the nvidia card is not detected, etc.. please help me10:09
kronixEveryone, I want to ask a favour from you all.10:09
psi-jackDr_Willis: OpenSUSE allows you to choose easily, and defaults to using the boot partition.10:09
rittyanHi all. I installed ubuntu netbook remix, made switch to a normal gnome desktop (there is such a thing in preferences) and now gnome-panel and metacity don't start up. How do I cure that?10:09
kronixblognewb was recently diagnosed with AIDS. He's gone around telling a lot of people on IRC, which suggests he's going through some kind of breakdown. If you could please reassure him that AIDS isn't always terminal (AIDS patients live on for 20+ years in some cases), it'd be a big help. Thanks.10:10
Dr_Willisabhifx:  huh?  You use unetbootin.. make the flash drive..  then you REBOOTED from the flash drive?10:10
zetherooxlq: seems like a lot of people are having issues with Atheros wifi chipsets in Ubuntu Intrepid and Jaunty10:10
Dr_Willisabhifx:   i use unetbootin/flash drives to install to all my machines10:10
icarus-cis there fglrx driver for 9.04 ?10:10
abhifxi dont have such big flash drive10:11
zetherooxlq: its a real big letdown for people who are actually trying to use Ubuntu as a solid and reliable replacement of Windowz10:11
Dr_Willisabhifx:  1 or 2 gb is plenty10:11
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning10:11
KB1JWQabhifx: Could try that.10:11
Dr_Willisabhifx:  so what are you trying to do with unetbootin then? install to hard drive with it?10:11
TheNanozetheroo: have you tested backport drivers , it is a kernel issue not ubuntu actually10:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pxe10:11
KB1JWQabhifx: Google for PXE boot.10:12
zetheroonext time there is a new Ubuntu release they should post warnings regarding changes made that destroy hardware support10:12
zetherooTheNano: made it even worse10:12
abhifxDr_willis : i have instaklled it on a hard drive and booted the live session. but it wont let me install it10:12
sapfeerHello there10:12
Dr_Willisabhifx:  because the disk is in use im guessing....10:12
TheNanozetheroo: what about madwifi ?10:12
abhifxKb1jwq : thnk will look for it10:12
lifeofguenterwhy is there no xorg.conf anymore in ubuntu karmic?10:13
Dr_Willisabhifx:  i inly use it to make bootable usb drives.10:13
spOdoes windows have good ext3 support?  better than ubuntu's ntfs support.... ie, can you do things like clean ext3 files systems in windows?10:13
abhifxdr_willis : yes thats the problem10:13
zetherooTheNano: that is what backports does ... it installs madwifi in the place of ath5k10:13
Dr_Willisabhifx:  and since you got nothing else to boot. you cant use gparted from a live cd/whatever to resize...10:13
TheNanozetheroo: backport installs latest untested version of ath5k10:13
* Dr_Willis has seen 2gb flash drives for $510:13
abhifxDr_willis : is there some other way besides unetbootin10:13
zetherooTheNano: and madwifi since Intrepid seems to have spilt its guts all over the place10:13
Dr_Willisabhifx:  with no flash drive.. you get limited..10:13
Dr_Willisabhifx:  someone mentioned a pxe boot...10:14
zetherooTheNano: whats the command you are proposing?10:14
firecrotchspO: There's some ext3 driver for windows, but I could never get it to work10:14
TheNanoyou can compile ath5k by youself, as well, installing madwifi is not as easy as just installing backport, I can check it10:14
abhifxdr_willis : i even tries wubi10:14
zetherooTheNano: I did sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty10:15
Dr_Willisabhifx:  id run ubuntu in virtualbox befor i  would use wubi10:15
zetherooTheNano: and that completely screwed things up10:15
erika1984hi all10:15
xlqabhifx: what are you trying to install it on?10:15
abhifxDr_willis : i want to explain it more10:16
abhifxxlq : let me explain10:16
abhifxi am running jaunty10:16
erika1984quick question why does system monitor say abrowse issleeping10:16
zetherooTheNano: I also tried installing the madwifi drivers and did not get passed "make" due to errors .... and I have compiled madwifi without a hitch many other times ...10:16
abhifxi have downloded ultimate edition10:16
Anarhisthi can somebody please help me with installing packages on the offline machine?10:16
erika1984im on abrowse now10:16
abhifxi want to install ultimate edition10:16
abhifxi have both win vista and jaunty10:17
Dr_Willisabhifx:  all ultimate edition is - is a bunch of preinstalled packages. basically.. not worth messing with.10:17
majnoonok how can i reset gnome i can't run gnome anymore :(10:17
Dr_Willisstick with normal Jaunty.10:17
erika1984is that a bug with abrowse aka firefox 3.510:17
Dr_Willismajnoon:  gnome settings are saved in .gnome* and .gconf*    you could move those dirs and try  logging in again10:18
abhifxdr_willis : i downloaed ultimate because i keep on messing with my linux box. i cant always download stuff for jaunty10:18
majnoontried that Dr_Willis10:18
zetherooso if the kernel is the reason for the issue with Atheros chipsets ... is there a way to get an even newer kernel?10:18
TheNanozetheroo: you do have to blacklist ath5k , take a look here , but there should be better guides , I can't find right away https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros10:18
abhifxxlq : i want to install it on a dedicated partition10:19
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate10:19
iofafohey guys, I'm in run-level 2... and in 6 I don't have /sbin/init ... how might one go abouts fixing this problem?10:20
Dr_Willisiofafo:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevels - from what i recall.10:20
zetherooTheNano: yeah ... that's for Intrepid ...10:20
Dr_Willis2 is the default runlevel.10:20
abhifxubottu : thanks, will check it10:20
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:20
TheNanoit will apply10:21
TheNanozetheroo: it will apply as I can see10:21
abhifxdr_willis : yes ubuntus installer is different. i ws able to install linux few years back this way10:21
kiaas_run level 6 is restart every time I've tried it o.o10:21
zetherooTheNano: and what exactly is this? Is this a single How-To ? ... or two on the same page?10:22
Dr_Willisi gotta find some good upstart docs some day..10:22
icarus-chow to query installed package using command?10:22
xlqicarus-c: could you be a bit more specific?10:23
icarus-csomething like rpm -q?10:23
Dr_Willisicarus-c:  err.. ubuntu uses apt10:23
Dr_Willis!apt | icarus-c10:23
ubottuicarus-c: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)10:23
icarus-ci konw10:23
icarus-cbut is there equivalent10:23
Dr_Willisso check the apt-get docs/guides :)10:24
Dr_Willistheres also 'apt-file' thats handy10:24
Dr_Willis!info apt-file10:24
ubottuapt-file (source: apt-file): search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0 (jaunty), package size 25 kB, installed size 172 kB10:24
psi-jackicarus-c: Well, you see.. rpm uses a system-wide package database for dependancy resolution, and since there's no rpm database on Ubuntu because it uses apt and debian packages, no. there's no real alternative.10:24
TheNanozetheroo: it's atrobel shooting guide that checks 3 different way of make it work , there is many more howtos you should check out, my athreos on Aspire one works just fine wit ath5k10:24
icarus-cDr_Willis: i don't get anything interested from  man apt-get apt-cache10:25
psi-jackDr_Willis: Hmm? apt-file? How's that different from using dpkg?10:25
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  it uses some sort of cache/database.10:25
psi-jackDr_Willis: Ohh, so faster, perchance?10:25
Dr_Willisyes - i think its what the bot uses10:25
Dr_Willis!find apt-file10:25
ubottuFound: apt-file10:25
psi-jackAha! Cool. I'll look into that.10:25
Dr_Willis!find smb.conf10:25
ubottuFile smb.conf found in ebox-samba, fusesmb, linpopup, manpages-zh, mythbuntu-common (and 6 others)10:25
zetherooTheNano: ok .. well thanks .. I just need something that is current ... I cannot afford to loose any more of my sanity :) I have already tried too many How-To's which were not current ...10:26
kavurticarus-c, do you want to see if package installed or not?10:26
xlqicarus-c: what are you trying to find out?10:26
icarus-cSo how would you guys check if a specific package is installed or what is included in a package?10:26
icarus-ckavurt: yes10:26
xlqicarus-c: "dpkg -s package", or "apt-cache show package"10:26
psi-jackDr_Willis: Wait, curious. Does apt-file search a centralized database, or the local system? dpkg only does the local system.10:26
kavurtaptitude search package10:27
kavurtif it has an i in front, it is installed10:27
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  not sure..10:27
psi-jackheh, another thing I don't like about Ubuntu's graphical installer.10:27
psi-jackYou can't setup your network manually if you have a DHCP server running. it just doesn't give you the fricken option. :/10:28
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  its user friendly.. :P10:28
psi-jackToo much so. :p10:28
icarus-cubuntu should have an "expert mode" :D10:28
psi-jackEven Windows' installer is user friendly, and they ask network configuration.10:29
icarus-cor just NetworkManager is too clever10:29
euzaois there an application that makes possible you to record which books you read?10:29
KB1JWQicarus-c: "Expert Mode" is called Debian. :-D10:30
Dr_Willisrecord?   gedit perhaps/ :)10:30
abhifxcan lvpm be used for installing ubuntu10:30
psi-jackOh great!10:30
psi-jackUbuntu died a horrible horrible death to BusyBox trying to boot.10:31
Dr_Willispsi-jack:   you are just an unfriendly user! :)10:31
Dr_Willisit heard you bad mouthing it!10:31
euzaoDr_Willis, but I was seeking for something organized, see?10:31
euzaoDr_Willis, I'm a Law student and I want to record all books I've took for reading10:31
Dr_Williseuzao:  how do you really want to 'organize' this list of books?10:31
Dr_Willis!find library10:31
ubottuFound: guile-library, hol88-library, hol88-library-help, hol88-library-source, libclaw-dynamic-library-dev (and 6 others)10:31
psi-jackDr_Willis: Well, actually, it says /dev/mapper/sys-root doesn't exist.10:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about guile-library10:32
Dr_Willispsi-jack:  hmm. thas somthingto do with lvm/raid? stuff?10:32
psi-jackDr_Willis: LVM, yes.10:32
Dr_Williseuzao:  there are some sort of book data base apps out.10:32
Dr_Willissome are for comic books. :P10:32
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luomo my laptop is not working in ubuntu means internet connection is not working.10:33
iceroot!details | luomo10:33
ubottuluomo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:33
ribotluomo: did you try to disconnect and reconnect10:33
luomomany times10:33
luomousing latest release10:34
luomoof ubuntu10:34
xlq!enter | luomo10:34
ubottuluomo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:34
iofafowhen I run showmount -e I get portmap getport: RPC: Succes10:34
iofafowhy is this?10:34
euzaoDr_Willis, like which?10:34
euzaoDr_Willis, I'm a Law student, sometimes I get in hands XVIII century books, so I want to know it10:34
Dr_Williseuzao:  fire up the package manager and search - i dont use any.10:35
Dr_Willisive just seen some in there10:35
euzaoSynaptic is a hand in the weel10:35
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psi-jackOkay, BusyBox, annoys me.10:37
Guest70300 el10:37
psi-jackOkay, so I made LVM2 striped / and /home, and grub boots up initially, but fails when it comes to loading up lvm to be able to mount /10:37
luomohaving a COMPAQ laptop but neither my wireless cards is recognised in UBUNTU nor my ethernet cable. So cant connect to internet. But in release 7.10 wired connection is working but dsl setting is not working then so i used latest release but this is also not working. Completely confused. Moreover in my friends DELL laptop it is working10:37
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode10:38
euzaoDr_Willis, Alexandria10:38
TheNanozetheroo: rememnber that you should check some stuff by urself as well like, the latest version of madwifi and so on , make a little research befor doing as an howto says10:38
luomocould someone help me?10:39
zetherooTheNano: research is easy enough when there are not dozens of people purporting to all have "the fix" ...10:39
mrgenericuserluomo: fresh install or Upgade to 9.04?  and has it never connected with latest ver?10:40
Anarhistis there any way to redownload the installed packages into cache after using 'apt-get clean'10:40
luomono i have live DVD and checking connection before installing10:41
xlqAnarhist: --download-only10:41
zetherooTheNano: the thing is that it all boils down to either finding something that works for you exact hardware by testing and trying out all kinds of "fixes" ... or finding someone with the exact same hardware and the same distro release who had already had and fixed the issue .... neither option is easy10:41
mrgenericuserdo you have a useb wireless or wired nic available?10:42
Anarhistxlq, but how do i get it to download packages already installed?10:42
Dr_Williswhy would you want to?10:42
Ademananyone know of a way to make X11 clients resilient to X.org crashes?10:42
luomono i don't have usb wireless or wired nic installed inside10:42
AnarhistDr_Willis, is that a question for me?10:43
xlqAnarhist: don't know then10:43
Ademani remember seeing something on reddit a while back, but I don't remember what it was or how it functioned, but apparently it worked10:43
Dr_WillisAnarhist:  yes.10:43
psi-jackOh! Cute!10:43
* psi-jack grunts.10:43
Dr_WillisAdeman:  that would be aneat trick... thats like keeping a house standing after the foundation washes away10:43
AnarhistDr_Willis, so that i can use APTonCD10:43
Dr_WillisAnarhist:  i thought aptoncd redownloaded them if it needed10:44
psi-jackI see no reason why Ubuntu can't find the / partition, unless it's plain just not loading lvm at all, before trying.10:44
TheNanozetheroo: what is you hardware , pc model10:44
Anarhisthmm, well it doesn't for me10:44
mrgenericuserwhat i meant was that when i did tech work, i kept a usb wireless card available for testing.  maybe the drivers for your internal nics have been depricated, or need to be installed after you install the new version.10:44
zetheroo1TheNano: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)10:45
samboI haven't updated ubuntu for along time, then yesterday, I updated ubuntu hardy, but  now my installation is broken; the wireless is not detected, the nvidia card is not detected, etc.. please help me10:45
zetheroo1how do I check which driver I am using for my wifi10:45
mrgenericuserluomo, what is your laptop model number?10:46
Anarhisti currently have only 1 package that gets selected when i run aptoncd, and that is ... aptoncd10:46
luomook but they are working fine with windows and even when i use them with Ubuntu 7.10 wired connection is working and in KDE wireless as well as wired both are working10:46
luomomy laptop no is: Presario V6316TU10:47
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate10:47
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning10:48
Dr_WillisAnarhist:  perhaps alter that 'clone' command examples to  do --download-only10:48
gst-kapsis there anyway I can fix my partition table ?10:49
DaZtestdisk? :f10:49
Anarhistok, i'll see what i can do10:49
zetheroo1TheNano: I think I just may have fixed it ... but time will tell10:50
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scott1hello all10:50
scott1i have an issue :(10:50
scott1I have a computer, its a HP laptop DV51113us is model number,10:51
scott1it comes with vista x64 home premium10:51
scott1i just finished installing ubuntu but now windows vista crashes10:51
scott1it logs in, but doesnt recognize any hardware anymore10:51
DaZreinstall? :f10:51
scott1i dont wanna reinstall :(10:52
scott1i have EVERYTHING10:52
DaZi don't think people on linux channel should know how to fix windows vista <:10:52
scott1no i kno10:52
Dr_Willishmm.. befor Installing an OS..  i normally make backups.10:52
scott1is ther elike10:53
scott1an undo feature10:53
scott1to this10:53
scott1or anything i can do to this?10:53
zetheroo1anyone know why my CAPS lock light is no longer working in Jaunty? Thinkpad R6110:53
xlqscott1: Windows System Restore?10:53
xlqzetheroo1: does it still behave as a caps lock?10:53
Severity1reinstall os without reformatting10:53
Severity1overwrites the WINDOWS directory10:54
Crash21081Is there a way to strip down Ubuntu so it boots nearly "instantly" but can still run say Boxee?10:54
zetheroo1xlq: it still works ... yes ... but the LED no longer lights up as soon as Ubuntu loads ....10:54
nguyenhoangtamwhat are you10:54
Dr_WillisCrash21081:  theres very minimal ubuntu variants.. but ive no idea what 'boxxee' needs.10:54
psi-jacknguyenhoangtam: I am human.10:54
scott1xlq i was going to10:54
scott1do system restore/recover10:54
DaZCrash21081, maybe get another distro?10:54
scott1how ever10:54
xlq!enter | scott110:54
ubottuscott1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:54
scott1how do i know this just wont happen again?10:54
DaZit's easier to build up10:55
Crash21081HTPC.  So full screen graphics, even without a desktop enviroment (command line just)?10:55
icarus-cCrash21081: hack in the kernel maybe10:55
icarus-cCrash21081: well you may boot without X10:55
Dr_Willis'splashtop'  is fun :) linux on the bios.10:55
Crash21081Will that speed up boot times considerably?10:56
xlqCrash21081: you can use X with just a simple window manager, or you can use svgalib or something...not sure what you're aiming for10:56
icarus-cCrash21081: you will save the time for loading the X10:56
Crash21081I'm aiming for <30 second boot time for <$100 extra.10:56
Dr_WillisCrash21081:  tiny core linux boots in abotu that time10:56
* DaZ boots in 10 :o10:57
xlqCrash21081: I have <30 second boot time with not-so-minimal Ubuntu :)10:57
xlqDaZ: well done :O10:57
Dr_WillisI dont worry about 50+sec boot times.. when  i get 50+ days uptime.10:57
icarus-c9.04 fresh install booted and started GNOME session within 10 seconds here..10:57
scott1my only options are to reformat huh?10:57
Crash21081On a standard HDD?10:57
Dr_Willisscott1:  depends on what you want to 'try'10:57
Lo_Panfrom grub min gets to the login screen in about 5 seconds10:57
DaZarchlinux on sata ;f10:57
Dr_Willisscott1:  you can use linux, or a live cd to backup your imporntant data files to some other machine/drive10:57
xlqHow're you all getting epic boot times?10:57
scott1well you see10:58
Lo_Pani cheat10:58
scott1i hate windows vista x6410:58
Crash21081I was thinking a flash USB drive could do it maybe.10:58
scott1alot of stuff isnt sufficient enough on it10:58
* icarus-c hates whatever Microsoft OS10:58
scott1i was wondering if possible to get like a windows xp/ubuntu partition going10:58
scott1but dont think my hardware will work with xp will it?10:58
Dr_Willisscott1:  I dual boot xp/ubuntu all the time with no problems.10:59
icarus-cscott1: well... no PC hardware doesn't work with windows XP i suppose..10:59
purplenurplepersonally i love MS ... it provides me with more work10:59
Dr_Willisno idea about your hardware....  or its xp compat.10:59
scott1so how do i know what to do10:59
DaZscott1, laptop?10:59
scott1because i hate vista x6410:59
scott1home premium10:59
Edicohow can I save a terminal 132x24 in my profile, in gnome, so the next time when I open the terminal to be opened with 132x24?10:59
scott1its a hp laptop yes10:59
Dr_Willisscott1:  figure iyut what you want to do.. then figure out how to do it.10:59
Dr_WillisYou could learn to use linux for a while..  and backup your data somewhere safe.. and ifyou want.. reinstall windows later.11:00
DaZthen i don't reccomend getting xp there <:11:01
scott1Hp laptop, dv 51113us. I want to have windows XP on here, along with ubuntu and recovery partition, ubuntu and xp split drive with minimal recovery size, i would love to jus get rid of vista 64 however i hear speakers ... video card... wont work correct11:01
DaZget seven :f11:01
Dvlprhey guys, is it possible to connect to windows remote desktop from ubuntu?11:01
DaZimo yes :f11:01
icarus-cDvlpr: yes11:01
Dvlprhmhm, cool thanks11:01
icarus-cDvlpr: i recommend  gnome-rdp11:01
psi-jackGotta love 3MB/s download speeds. ;)11:02
Crash21081What is WINE exactly?  Apparently Wine is not an emulator...  But as I understand it, that's what it does.11:02
DaZCrash21081, api implementation :f11:03
Dr_WillisCrash21081:  not in my definition of an emulator.11:03
purplenurpleCrash21081, its a drink made from grapes11:03
FlannelCrash21081: It's an ABI compatability layer.11:03
rekwhiich program could i use to watch tv....11:03
Dr_Willis'vice' is an emulator. :) it emulates the actual C64 hardware.11:03
Crash21081So it's just somewhere for teh WinAPI calls to go?11:03
scott1I dont get it11:03
psi-jackAPPARENTLY the only safe way to install Ubuntu on LVM'd /, is through the Alternative install, and apparently the only way to use custom LVM options when creating them is through the Live desktop environment.11:03
DaZpurplenurple, you win.11:03
scott1Ubuntu is just11:03
* psi-jack shakes his head and signs.11:03
scott1a step up of windows?11:03
* psi-jack sighs even.11:03
FlannelCrash21081: A vast simplifictaion, but yeah, pretty much.11:03
scott1can it do everything windows can?11:03
Dr_Willisscott1:   it does everything I need basically. its a full fetured OS.11:04
DaZscott1, it can't bsod11:04
scott1aw :(11:04
rekwhiich program could i use to watch tv.... Dr_Willis11:04
LLStarkshow do i send something to the build farm?11:04
Crash21081So I can play the games I'm still using Windows for with Wine?11:04
Dr_Willisrek:  mythtv. or the media players can also work with tv tuner cards.11:04
Dr_WillisCrash21081:  some games work.. some dont.11:04
Flannel!appdb | Crash2108111:04
ubottuCrash21081: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help11:04
rekDr_Willis: i've not managed to use it11:04
scott1so if u want to play games ,11:05
Dr_Willisrek:  i dont even have a tv tuner card in my system any more11:05
Crash21081rek, XBMC, Boxee11:05
scott1u need a computer with windows.11:05
Dr_Willisscott1:   depends on the game.11:05
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Dr_Willisscott1:  you dont want to know the hassles ive had with 'windows games' on 'windows'11:05
Dr_Willisscott1:  or go buy a Wii. :)11:05
mrwesor a PS311:06
kiaas_scott1, all my games run natively on linux, or through WINE.11:06
DaZwindows games usually work better on windows than linux11:06
DaZi know how it sounds but it's true >:11:06
DigitalKiwihmm my brother left his wii here this weekend, and we have twilight princess and i haven't played it at all...11:06
kiaas_DaZ, sometimes true. but some games run better on WINE than Windows Vista and 7, I hear :o11:06
Dr_WillisWiiWare. :)11:06
rekname of packet11:06
rekshould i see my card on dev?11:06
Dr_Willisrek:  huh?11:07
Dr_Willis!info tvtime11:07
ubottutvtime (source: tvtime): A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1 (jaunty), package size 677 kB, installed size 1952 kB11:07
DaZkiaas_, everybody says so but i can't confirm it with my experience >:11:07
reki'm not sure my card work Dr_Willis11:07
kiaas_DaZ, I have like 6 games. I havn'ty played most of them on windows.11:08
Dr_Willisive had some games in wine run at 2x or higher normal speeds.. that made Grand Theft AUto III a little hard to play. :)11:08
mrgenericuserrek: i used to use mythtv, and could set it to record if i wanted...11:09
rekMultimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decode11:10
rekthe modules i think are already loaded11:10
th1what's the best program in Ubuntu for making a video from individual jpg files?11:11
Dr_Willisth1:  ffmpeg, mencoder, gimp animation feature, perhaps others...11:11
reki scan for channel but i don't see anything11:11
xlqth1: blender can also use it, but not the simplest option11:11
th1Dr_Willis, preferably with a simple GUI and where it can be edited like repeat frame tc.11:11
Dr_Willisth1:  no idea on that.11:12
th1thanks I'll try blender11:12
Dr_Willisgimp can do it one layer at a time. :)11:12
Dr_Willisor are you wanting to just make a slideshow with time/music?11:12
th1Dr_Willis, no I want to make a play-doh movie with my daughter :)11:12
zetheroo1how do you recover GRUB from the Ubuntu LiveCD ? My GRUB is gone and I cannot boot into Ubuntu anymore11:13
Dr_Willisth1:  gimp can do animations based on layers of images.11:13
DigitalKiwiwindows movie maker in wine, that would be epic11:13
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | zetheroo111:13
ubottuzetheroo1: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:13
th1I don't want to use microsoft software ;)11:13
zetheroo1Dr_Willis: thanks11:13
oldude67its almost to the point that microsoft doesnt want to use microsoft software..lmao11:14
Dr_Willisthey assimalate then dessimate...11:14
rekhttp://pastebin.com/m7e095cb0    Dr_Willis11:14
DigitalKiwiwhat is -e +e?11:15
Crash21081Everyone knows women are made of sand.11:15
EvelinaWhy is planet-venus getting error:unable to locate filters every time I run it?11:15
triplcHi all. How to setup wireless from command line?11:15
Dr_Willisrek:  Cannot change owner of /home/riccardo/.tvtime/tvtime.xml: Permission denied.11:15
Evelinaplanet-venus isn't able to locate filters, why?11:15
rekhelp chown ?11:15
triplcHi all. How to setup wireless from command line? Do we have a guide?11:15
Dr_Willisrek:  sounds like you got your users home configs/permissions/ownerships all goofed up11:15
karexHI, how to view or edit x-xcursor file??11:16
rekevery time this programs are not well configured!!!!!!11:16
Dr_Willisrek:  perhaps delete the .tvtime dir and   try again11:16
scott1how can i access all my files11:16
scott1from ubuntu11:16
scott1from that ivsta partition?11:16
rekwe must change the permissions11:16
Dr_Willisscott1:  you can mount/access the ntfs filesystems and access the files11:16
rekchown riccardo:riccardo irectory ?11:16
scott1mount ?11:17
Dr_Willisrek:  or just remove /delete the directory and rerun tvtime as a user. You dident run it as root did you?11:17
Dr_Willis!ntfs | scott111:17
ubottuscott1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:17
Dr_Willis!training | scott111:17
ubottuscott1: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com11:17
rekhttp://pastebin.com/m143a90b1     Dr_Willis11:18
faderALHi Anybody out there11:18
Dr_Willisrek:  perhaps it needs some argument. ive never used tv time.11:19
Crash21081Just nod if you can hear me.11:19
karexHI, how to view or edit x-xcursor file??11:19
Crash21081Is there anyone home?11:19
rekhelp #ubuntu11:19
Crash21081Come on....  Now....11:19
th1Dr_Willis, I found it :) "Stopmotion"11:19
kiaas_No one is here. It's your imagination.11:20
Crash21081I hear you're feeling down.11:20
Crash21081Well I can ease your pain11:20
th1Dr_Willis, it's absolutely perfect11:20
Crash21081Get you on your feat a gain.11:20
scott1u guys just cant tel me how to access it11:20
scott1is it not like juss in a folder sumwhere11:20
scott1im new with computers11:20
Dr_Willisscott1:  when the ntfs filesystem is properly mounted it will appear as a directroy.. you did look in the 'places' menu to see if its there?11:21
mrgenericuserrek: try tvtime without sudo....11:21
rekalready tried11:21
scott1i have looked there11:23
Crash21081What is generally the most compatible distro?11:23
scott1but i dont see any of my stuff11:23
LLStarkswhich is more bleeding edge? debian sid/experimental or fedora rawhide?11:23
scott1if this works better than vista ill stay on here and delete the vista partiton11:23
scott1need my bookmarks/11:23
scott1files tho11:23
Dr_Willisscott1:  bookmarks? thats why i use those social-bookmarking sites like delicious :)11:23
scott1what is delicious?11:24
Dr_Willisyou may need to manually mount your ntfs filesystems scott1   they may not auto-mount if windows crashed and flagged them as in use.11:24
DigitalKiwiLLStarks: compare the package versions. I would guess rawhide though11:24
RolandI'm having a strange problem on 9.04. I started sudo apt-get update from terminal. But it just hangs after some time.11:24
grawityscott1: delicious.com (previously called del.icio.us) is a "social bookmarking" website.11:24
scott1if i need to manually mount it can u help me through it11:24
iofafoif I copy over / from one installtion of Ubuntu to another ... rewriting the entire root of the others, would that be a good solution to inswtalling it clean assumgin they're the same versions?11:24
scott1windows partition crashed yea11:25
mrgenericuserrek: maybe chmod 666 .tvtime/tvtime.xml ?11:25
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:25
RolandI'm having a strange problem on 9.04. I started sudo apt-get update from terminal. But it just hangs after some time. It seems like it's trying to connect to a server, which isn't available.11:25
grawityRoland: What server it is hanging on?11:25
grawityRoland: If it's one of Ubuntu servers, you can change them in 'gksu software-properties-gtk', or if you prefer, editing /etc/apt/sources.list11:26
Rolandgrawity, ee.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out11:26
grawityRoland: Mhm, it's one of Ubuntu servers. Try changing it to another nearby one - for example, lv.archive.ubuntu.com (I guess ee means Estonia?)11:28
scott1sudo apt- get install pyssdm isnt working11:28
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scott1sudo apt-get install pysdm*11:28
grawityscott1: Since I just joined -- what is your problem?11:28
kiaas_And now..nothing is making any sound whatso ever.11:28
Dr_Willisscott1:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then try to install it again11:28
scott1wats sudo11:29
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)11:29
kiaas_so, uninstalling pulseaudio so ALSA handles everything more directly is just sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio?11:29
psi-jackkiaas_: I'd do purge, instead of just remove.11:29
oldude67kiaas_, i just uninstalled it from synaptics.11:29
kiaas_psi-jack, k.11:30
psi-jackSpeaking of package management though..11:30
Rolandgrawity, I changed it to the lithuanian server, but it still tries to connect the estonian server in the end11:30
psi-jackOpenSUSE has the ability to lock a package from even being installed (or uninstalled), does apt/dpkg yet have such a feature?11:30
SchighSchaghkiaas_: sooo you're having trouble with sound? are you on 9.04? did you upgrade from an earlier distro?11:30
psi-jackSchighSchagh: It's PulseAudio, it's known to suck, period.11:31
KeifferI had added a new keyboard layout, switch is set to both alt keys but i can't switch them. Not even for test11:31
Dr_Willisive had no issues wuth   Pulse Audio11:32
kiaas_SchighSchagh, nope. 8.04 and 8.10 freezes before starting X on my hardware, so rather than screwing around in CLI in an area I'm most unfamiliar with I tried one of the 9.04 Betas, and it worked. and the sound issue is new. 10 days of uptime and sound screwed up