[11:50] mat_t: hi... just an idea for the gdm > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#Iteration%202%20[GDM]%20edit%20by%20mac_v [11:51] not sure how far it is feasible though ;p [11:51] mac_v: very cool, not really implementable with the current gdm codebase [11:51] exactly :) [11:51] mac_v: for Karmic all we're doing is applying a custom theme to the existing gdm [11:52] and shuffling some buttons around [11:52] mat_t: why did you drop your face browser idea? [11:52] mac_v: we didn't drop it. There was just nobody to implement it yet :) [11:53] mat_t: anyways... something for Karmic+1 , or LTS ;) [11:53] mac_v: definitely! [11:54] you 2 really make for tidy irc logs, with your nicks lining up like that ;) [11:54] mac_v: would be cool if we could start a separate page for the face browser concepts [11:54] thorwil: that's one of our primary goals, to make those logs look semi-decent at last [11:54] ;P) [11:55] mat_t: i thought of some other crazy ideas for gdm , but dropped them due to a11y reasons , but yeah a separate page would be nice [11:55] thorwil: ;p [11:55] * mac_v breaks the log :( [11:56] if ideas like mac_v's that can't be implemented, currently, are looked for, an extra page for that should be outside Karmic [11:56] thorwil: correct [11:58] * mac_v suggests wil_t nic instead of thorwil [11:59] mac_v: fail! it should be thor_w, then [11:59] no , to match ours [11:59] tho_w, actually [12:00] mac_v: but my marketing department doesn't permit that. they claim any change of nick would diminish brand recognition [12:01] thorwil: yeah :) very true [12:04] thorwil: are you subscribed to wiki trivial edits too! 0.o that should be a lot of spam! [12:04] mac_v: only when John Baer gets to work :) [12:05] hehe... ;) [12:06] mac_v: there are sneaky bastards like ckontros who sometimes try to sneak non-trivial edits by marking them trivial. but not with me, no sire!! [12:06] mwuhahaha! [12:07] hm... 0.o nice idea [12:09] no seriously, you could never successfully monitor wiki changes without being notified for any and all edits [12:11] luckily we have no vandalism. except mine :) [12:12] dont worry , when Ubuntu picks up user volume , you have those too... [12:12] ;) [12:13] good thing ubuntu has no noteworthy user volume, yet, then! ;) [12:18] thorwil: why hasnt someone ,in the community, started a glossy set of icons? [12:18] is it against some rule? [12:20] mac_v: how would i know why others don't do something like that? [12:20] hehe, i was just wondering... [12:20] mac_v: but there have been many glossy icons all over the place and there are not many serious icon efforts [12:21] yeah [14:46] bzr branch lp:hanso [14:46] Any opinions please let me know ? :) [15:48] Hello all _o/ [16:42] thorwil: i added the mailing list link for mr.doob , should i remove it? i feel if the link was available permanently we have too much noise on the list from non-contributors ... or is it ok? [16:42] would have* [16:46] mac_v: i don't think such a link will lead to more noise [16:47] ok, i'll leave it :) [17:04] SiDi: heya... whats up? still no network? [17:07] mac_v: no, no internet, thats why i'm here [17:08] SiDi: guessed so , that must be the only reason you've been quiet ;p [17:09] SiDi: hows notify-osd for xfce coming? [17:09] comming along* [17:10] coming* [17:10] * mac_v should stop correcting own typos , only leads to more typos! [17:32] thorwil: could you move my gdm submission , to a relevant page, pls ,i want to add a couple of ideas, i usually mess up creating new wiki pages [17:34] or if you created a gdm page , i could add it there. [17:36] mac_v: oh common, creating a page is child's play and the rest just cut-paste [17:36] mac_v: only question is the path for that new page [17:36] wiki page , i usually give stupid labels , and wrong path :( [17:37] cut and paste is not the problem [17:37] mat_t: what do you think where new gdm ideas outside current cycle should end up? [17:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Login? [17:39] though i wonder if that really should be handled isolated from boot splash [17:42] i had same confusion while submitting :/ [17:43] hmm? [17:43] thorwil: How about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/3DFaceBrowd [17:43] bugger [17:43] * mat_t tries again [17:44] thorwil: How about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/3DFaceBrowser [17:44] the idea is to have a custom built 3D accelerated interface [17:44] mat_t: you want it to be all about 3DFaceBrowser, not generally what ever crazy people like mac_v might come up with? ;) [17:44] probably clutter based [17:45] hehe... [17:45] thorwil: absolutely whatever :) What we need is an encouragement to really stretch people's creativity [17:47] mat_t: i suggest "Login" to not even point to specific technology (GDM) [17:47] thorwil: exactly [17:47] thorwil: how about "GDM" ? [17:47] ih crap! [17:47] if the focus should also encompass boot splashes, it should be "Boot" [17:48] thorwil: to me the artwork team should have two paralell tracks > ongoing work (something that can be implemented into the nearest release) and future-oriented, experimental work [17:48] the latter should not be restricted by current implementation issues [17:49] mat_t: the current wiki guidelines state that stuff that isn't targeted at a specific release goes into Incoming directly [17:50] and there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Concepts for far out stuff [17:50] cool [17:51] not much there.... [17:52] mat_t: we have been rather discouraging of such efforts [17:52] thorwil: ? [17:53] mat_t: you see it quite often that someone puts quite a lot of work in some concept, ignoring most technical questions [17:53] mat_t: sometimes some fans appear and cheer a bit [17:54] mat_t: but there's never ever someone to implement anything [17:54] mat_t: i do know the value of brainstorming and free creativity [17:55] mat_t: but i'm also vary of wasting time. not only my own time [17:55] thorwil: I see exactly what you mean [17:55] mat_t: so if something is to happen there, it should be given structure from your side ;) [17:55] mat_t: dinner time, bbl [17:56] enjoy! [18:04] thorwil: oops! my network-manager crashed , did you create a link? [18:04] mac_v: how's the battery icon stuff? Did you try some other variants? [18:05] mat_t: i tried to etch it in , but it will look almost the same so , not sure what to do , do you have any ideas? [18:06] mac_v: have you tried with a subtle gradient on the bolt? [18:07] hmm... the prob is the bolt is narrow and any gradient just makes it loose its shape , since we have limited options [18:23] mac_v: no, didn't [18:24] thorwil: no probs , no hurry, someday when you find time you can create it and remind me :) [18:25] mac_v: i talked with mat and had dinner, instead ;) [18:26] mac_v: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Login [18:26] ;) i had back to back crashes of different apps , now i have got some fun backtrace to do ;p [18:26] ah, nice... [18:27] mac_v: it can always be moved/renamed later, if the need arises [18:27] sure , no probs [18:27] mac_v: you should write an introduction to make clear that page is not just for your stuff [18:28] ok [18:28] mac_v: then you might want to talk with mat_t about bringing it up on the mailing list [18:29] hehe, "my stuff" , [18:29] Ah...mat , yeah will do , [18:30] thorwil: for now , i'll just move my stuff here , tomorrow i'll set it up properly , is that ok? [18:31] or shall i do the copy paste tomorrow itself? [18:32] mac_v: yes, ok [18:32] thanks :) [18:33] np