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| micahg | yvan300: was hggdh able to help you? | 00:19 |
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| micahg | hggdh: what happened with the bug before? | 00:30 |
| yvan300 | micahg, more or less | 00:33 |
| micahg | yvan300: I see the bug hasn't changed :) | 00:35 |
| yvan300 | micahg, yup | 00:38 |
| micahg | ping hggdh | 00:53 |
| hggdh | micahg, pong | 01:24 |
| * hggdh goes walking the dogs | 01:33 | |
| micahg | hggdh: let me know when you are back | 01:43 |
| hggdh | micahg, I am back | 03:09 |
| micahg | hi | 03:09 |
| hggdh | hi | 03:09 |
| micahg | was wondering if we missed anything with that guy trying to learn triage | 03:10 |
| hggdh | I think we missed a lot | 03:10 |
| hggdh | he was interested in *solving* bugs, not on triage | 03:11 |
| micahg | ah | 03:11 |
| hggdh | and did not get, I think, that you cannot solve what you do not understand | 03:11 |
| micahg | indeed, I would see learning triage akin to learnin ghte basics | 03:12 |
| micahg | also, what did you think of my addition to the meeting agenda | 03:12 |
| hggdh | well, yes, up to a point. But there is this huge stigma on triaging: this is what you do when you are starting | 03:12 |
| micahg | why is that bad? | 03:13 |
| hggdh | on the agenda: I liked the inclusion, this been happening frequently enough to warrant a discussion | 03:13 |
| hggdh | it is bad because it gives out the impression that once you *know* what to do, there is no more need to triage | 03:14 |
| micahg | ah, that is bad | 03:14 |
| * micahg always saw it as a learning experience you build on | 03:14 | |
| hggdh | yes indeed. This is why I try to stress that you cannot solve a problem without understanding *what* is the problem, *where* is the problem, and *why* it is a problem | 03:15 |
| micahg | I didn't contradict that before, did I | 03:16 |
| hggdh | no, you did not | 03:16 |
| micahg | was my browser lesson too much? | 03:16 |
| hggdh | it was in the right direction, but his attention span was very short ;-) | 03:16 |
| hggdh | we should also try to make the channel topic more visible (I do not know how, though). But... sometimes I feel nobody ever read it. | 03:19 |
| * micahg would love someone to mentor for FF busg | 03:30 | |
| micahg | *bugs | 03:30 |
| micahg | then I could go after the backlog | 03:31 |
| micahg | hggdh: what do you think of a follow feature like on bugzilla for LP? | 03:32 |
| grepory | FF bugs? | 03:32 |
| micahg | grepory: Firefox | 03:32 |
| grepory | ohhhhh | 03:32 |
| grepory | i was thinking about going after firefox bugs. | 03:32 |
| micahg | ok | 03:33 |
| grepory | the ability to follow other users can come in really handy... especially in a mentor-mentee relationship. | 03:33 |
| micahg | grepory: what timezone ar eyou in? | 03:33 |
| grepory | micahg: CST | 03:33 |
| grepory | you? | 03:33 |
| micahg | grepory: exactly | 03:33 |
| micahg | grepory: CDT :) | 03:34 |
| grepory | UTC-5? i think | 03:34 |
| grepory | cool | 03:34 |
| hggdh | micahg, what do you mean? | 03:34 |
| hggdh | ah | 03:34 |
| hggdh | wait | 03:34 |
| micahg | hggdh: on bugzilla you can select someone to follow their comments | 03:34 |
| micahg | i.e. receive copies | 03:35 |
| grepory | every e-mail that BZ e-mails them, you receive. | 03:35 |
| hggdh | heh. Yes. Extremely nice | 03:35 |
| hggdh | yes, Andre followed me for a while when I started there | 03:35 |
| hggdh | worth a LP bug on Launchpad | 03:36 |
| hggdh | this would come really handy when mentoring folks | 03:36 |
| * micahg is filing | 03:37 | |
| * hggdh waits :-) | 03:37 | |
| micahg | bug 414627 | 03:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627 | 03:39 |
| hggdh | I really want to confirm it :-( | 03:42 |
| micahg | LP admins told me just to subscribe :) | 03:42 |
| * micahg asked about that yesterday | 03:42 | |
| micahg | they must have different polocies | 03:42 |
| micahg | *policies | 03:42 |
| hggdh | that is not an answer, since you do not know where the monitored person went | 03:42 |
| micahg | no | 03:43 |
| hggdh | bah I am going to confirm | 03:43 |
| micahg | not for the bug | 03:43 |
| micahg | about confirming LP bugs | 03:43 |
| greg-g | don't confirm LP bugs? | 03:44 |
| hggdh | too late | 03:44 |
| hggdh | :-) | 03:44 |
| mpontillo | couldn't you subscribe to their feed in an RSS reader? ex. http://feeds.launchpad.net/~micahg/latest-bugs.atom | 03:44 |
| greg-g | are we no qualified to confirm them? :) | 03:44 |
| greg-g | s/no/not/ | 03:44 |
| hggdh | I will let them complain with me. A bug is a bug is a bug | 03:44 |
| hggdh | greg-g yes, this is the point | 03:44 |
| hggdh | on the other hand, it is a different project, so... different rules | 03:45 |
| micahg | mpontillo: that just shows you which bugs | 03:45 |
| micahg | not what they saId/did | 03:45 |
| greg-g | hggdh: right | 03:45 |
| mpontillo | ah, I see. I suppose a more complete feed would be nice. | 03:47 |
| micahg | mpontillo: that requires 2 methods for bug watching | 03:47 |
| micahg | it would be easier to all be in the same system | 03:48 |
| micahg | even better with a header that you can filter into a mentee folder | 03:48 |
| micahg | ooh | 03:49 |
| micahg | I'll add that to the bug request | 03:49 |
| mpontillo | yeah, it's a good idea. I guess I just prefer RSS feeds for this kind of thing - the e-mail can get overwhelming and it can be annoying to cover all the corner cases when filtering | 03:52 |
| * micahg keeps adding to the meeting agenda list | 03:54 | |
| hggdh | mpontillo, it is a different usage: we would be monitoring a, er, trainee on triaging, not just receiving bug notifications | 03:56 |
| hggdh | but I can see this also being done via a RSS | 03:56 |
| hggdh | Now, to sleep. g'night, all y'all | 03:57 |
| mpontillo | if it was going to be e-mail, it would be nice to set up an alternate address for easy filtering. so I could send things to mygmailaccount+mentee@gmail.com and be able to filter on that | 03:57 |
| mpontillo | night | 03:58 |
| hggdh | mpontillo, good idea. Please add it in the bug | 03:58 |
| mpontillo | will do | 03:58 |
| mpontillo | bug 414627 updated | 04:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627 | 04:01 |
| micahg | night hggdh | 04:02 |
| grepory | mpontillo: that would be really, really nice. | 04:12 |
| grepory | that was one problem i had w/ the follow feature of BZ. it was nigh impossible to filter all of the extraneous e-mails in a useful way. | 04:13 |
| grepory | it's just too simplistic. | 04:13 |
| mpontillo | yeah - thinking about it, it'd be a rather large change to launchpad. you probably wouldn't want to rely 100% on the "+<alt-addr>" gmail feature, though you could include knowledge of it. so you'd need a general way to register additional e-mail addresses | 04:16 |
| mpontillo | if done right, you'd be able to use the alternate email addresses anywhere in launchpad, for whatever you wanted | 04:16 |
| grepory | well, i think it's just A Big Pain to do anything other than a simplistic CC action when you're following someone. | 04:16 |
| grepory | which is why BZ's implementation is just that. | 04:17 |
| micahg | grepory: LP is different in that it already has some logic built into its e-mails | 04:19 |
| mpontillo | I like the way Stack Overflow does per-user feeds: they pretty much include everything the user ever does: ex. http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/user/1 -- that's what I was thinking of when I mentioned RSS | 04:19 |
| grepory | mmmmm... | 04:19 |
| grepory | now _that_ would be slick. | 04:19 |
| grepory | instead of following the person, you can just add their feed to your aggregator. | 04:19 |
| grepory | micahg: i've been really pleased with LP's e-mail handling. very intuitive. | 04:20 |
| mpontillo | I would say that the way LP handles email is better than any other bug tracker I've ever used. but I still have a hard time doing filtering. I want to differentiate between bugs I'm working on, bugs I'm subscribed to, packages I'm subscribed to, bugs I'm subscribed to indirectly... | 04:27 |
| grepory | well | 04:28 |
| grepory | you could always filter on the X-Launchpad-Bug-Commenters or X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale headers | 04:28 |
| grepory | that's a start, at least. | 04:28 |
| mpontillo | yeah - maybe I've just not spent enough time tweaking the filters... and I use a gmail account so I'm not sure if it can filter on those natively | 04:29 |
| grepory | let me try | 04:29 |
| grepory | i use goog too | 04:29 |
| mpontillo | I saw a sourcepackage=<pkg> in the header but the searching was highlighting text in the body - not sure if it got it | 04:29 |
| grepory | yeah... the filters aren't that robust. | 04:30 |
| grepory | this is yet another reason why i'm considering going back to fetchmail+procmail. | 04:30 |
| mpontillo | indeed. | 04:30 |
| grepory | does anyone have clean vmware images for 8.04, 9.04 or 9.10? i just found the vmware images for 5, 6, and 7 | 04:46 |
| micahg | ping grepory | 05:10 |
| micahg | grepory: ? | 05:20 |
| grepory | yar | 05:20 |
| micahg | you're familiar with Firefox, right? | 05:20 |
| grepory | yeah | 05:20 |
| micahg | ok bug 414417 | 05:20 |
| grepory | i like to think so, at least. | 05:20 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414417 in firefox-3.0 "cant update current mozilla browser, current version 3.0.13 / "check for updates" not clickable." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414417 | 05:21 |
| micahg | let's discuss what you want to do to this | 05:21 |
| grepory | ok | 05:21 |
| grepory | so they're talking about Help -> Check for updates | 05:22 |
| micahg | right | 05:22 |
| grepory | which, if i had to guess, has been disabled, because we want them to update it via aptitude or the update manager | 05:22 |
| micahg | correct :) | 05:22 |
| grepory | so this is an invalid bug | 05:23 |
| grepory | but | 05:23 |
| grepory | we want to give the user some helpful info | 05:23 |
| micahg | well | 05:23 |
| micahg | what is the user trying to do | 05:23 |
| grepory | oh wait | 05:23 |
| grepory | heh | 05:23 |
| grepory | update to 3.0.13 | 05:23 |
| grepory | which is already installed. | 05:23 |
| micahg | so they can't be trying to do that | 05:23 |
| grepory | no | 05:23 |
| grepory | but that's what it seems like they are trying to do | 05:24 |
| grepory | ask for clarification? | 05:24 |
| micahg | here's the piece you might be missing | 05:24 |
| micahg | firefox just pushed 3.5.2 to users of 3.0.13 on windows | 05:24 |
| grepory | ahhh | 05:24 |
| micahg | so, now what do you think? | 05:25 |
| grepory | well.. i could tell them that they're running the current version of the firefox-3.0 package, which they have installed.. but if they are trying to upgrade to the latest version (3.5.2), then they could install the firefox-3.5 package | 05:25 |
| grepory | or i could just ask what version they would like to be running | 05:26 |
| micahg | yes, but they just need help, right | 05:26 |
| grepory | oh | 05:26 |
| grepory | ! | 05:26 |
| grepory | convert to a question? | 05:26 |
| micahg | Yep :) | 05:26 |
| micahg | esxactly | 05:26 |
| grepory | i keep forgetting about that option. | 05:26 |
| micahg | let me show you a nice page you can reply to the question to | 05:26 |
| micahg | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion | 05:26 |
| micahg | you have the stock response for convert to question? | 05:27 |
| grepory | yar. | 05:27 |
| micahg | go for it :) | 05:27 |
| micahg | great | 05:29 |
| micahg | now, if you want, you can answer the question | 05:30 |
| grepory | i think i will! | 05:30 |
| grepory | woot | 05:33 |
| micahg | grepory: that was an awesome answer | 05:33 |
| micahg | great job | 05:33 |
| micahg | see, easy bug :) | 05:33 |
| grepory | totes. | 05:34 |
| micahg | you wanna go find one to triage now? | 05:36 |
| grepory | sure | 05:36 |
| grepory | look for the new+unconfirmed bugs, right? | 05:37 |
| grepory | errr undecided | 05:37 |
| micahg | yeah or you can go to a package and click new bugs | 05:38 |
| grepory | there sure are a lot of bugs involving flash. | 05:42 |
| grepory | well, i guess rather than cherry-picking easy-looking bugs.. i'll just start at the top. | 05:44 |
| grepory | bug 414532 | 05:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414532 in firefox-3.0 "firefox need to reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414532 | 05:44 |
| micahg | grepory: it's ok to cherry pick | 05:44 |
| grepory | heh. well i wasn't having much luck | 05:44 |
| micahg | grepory: ok, what do you want to do with that one? | 05:46 |
| grepory | well.. we don't have enough information to reproduce. | 05:47 |
| micahg | right...there are a few bugs like this | 05:47 |
| grepory | so send the needs more info canned response and set it to incomplete? | 05:48 |
| micahg | well, are there any other similar bugs | 05:48 |
| grepory | hmmm | 05:48 |
| micahg | you probably won't find one, so I'll give it to you...bug 413177 | 05:49 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 413177 in firefox "firefox tells me to restart my system" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413177 | 05:49 |
| micahg | still waiting on a response | 05:49 |
| grepory | maybe i should do a simple search for "firefox restart" | 05:49 |
| grepory | lag | 05:49 |
| micahg | that's a good idea | 05:49 |
| micahg | also, take a look at the ubufox package | 05:49 |
| grepory | ok | 05:50 |
| micahg | as that prompts the user to restart firefox | 05:50 |
| micahg | in teh browser | 05:50 |
| micahg | not by notification | 05:50 |
| micahg | but not sure if that's the problem | 05:50 |
| grepory | hmm... 413177 certainly sounds like the same kind of issue | 05:52 |
| grepory | okay so the the report in 414532 has ubufox installed | 05:52 |
| grepory | it would be nice if we knew if 413177 had it installed too | 05:52 |
| grepory | and judging by a quick search in the ubufox package, it does prompt people for restarts | 05:54 |
| grepory | so maybe ubufox is updating stuff? or it's a bug w/ ubufox? | 05:54 |
| micahg | grepory: any ideas | 06:01 |
| micahg | oops | 06:01 |
| micahg | missed your correspondence | 06:01 |
| micahg | ok, so ubufox checks to see if an updated firefox and if so, prompts the user to restart | 06:02 |
| micahg | if the bug is being prompted in the browser, problem is ubufox | 06:02 |
| grepory | *nod* | 06:04 |
| grepory | so really, needs more info | 06:04 |
| micahg | if the problem is with the notification that firefox has been updated and you should restart your browser (i.e. system notification) then the problem could be elsewhere | 06:05 |
| micahg | yes | 06:05 |
| micahg | so, we need to know if the notification is in the browser or a system notification | 06:05 |
| * grepory nods | 06:05 | |
| micahg | also, make sure you subscribe so that you know when the user responds | 06:06 |
| * grepory nods | 06:06 | |
| micahg | you're doing great | 06:06 |
| grepory | So respond with something like | 06:07 |
| grepory | Thanks for your report ... We need more information to continue ... Does the notification to restart Firefox come from Ubuntu via the update manager or is it a message window coming from the browser? | 06:07 |
| grepory | s/message window/error message? | 06:07 |
| micahg | it's not an error message | 06:08 |
| micahg | you know the bar you get when you're asked to save a password | 06:08 |
| grepory | yeah | 06:08 |
| grepory | ohhhh! | 06:08 |
| grepory | that | 06:08 |
| grepory | yeah | 06:08 |
| micahg | well, it's like that, except it says please restart firefox or something to that extent | 06:08 |
| grepory | that's what ubufox presents? | 06:08 |
| grepory | ok | 06:08 |
| micahg | yeah | 06:08 |
| grepory | so ... "Does the notification appear in the Firefox window itself or does it appear to be a notification from the operating system?" | 06:09 |
| micahg | that sounds better | 06:09 |
| grepory | s/the operating system/ubuntu .. maybe. | 06:09 |
| micahg | system tray? | 06:10 |
| grepory | that works. | 06:10 |
| micahg | if you want to show a whole response before you post, you can use pastebin.ubuntu.com | 06:10 |
| grepory | sounds good | 06:11 |
| grepory | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/254368/ | 06:12 |
| grepory | well that rendered awkwardly. | 06:13 |
| micahg | yeah, that's the way it normally does it | 06:14 |
| micahg | but it looks good | 06:14 |
| grepory | cool beans. | 06:14 |
| micahg | can you subscribe me ask well | 06:14 |
| micahg | *as | 06:14 |
| grepory | sure | 06:14 |
| grepory | done | 06:15 |
| grepory | ahh.. i like lp so much. | 06:15 |
| micahg | grepory: great job | 06:17 |
| grepory | thanks! | 06:17 |
| grepory | i appreciate the help. | 06:17 |
| jmarsden | To wrap the text you can pipe it through par, so whatever |par |pastebinit | 06:18 |
| grepory | or pastebin could wrap things sensically for me ;) but thanks. just installed it. | 06:19 |
| jmarsden | grepory: The problem with askig pastebinit to be 'sensible' is that then it messes up code snippets that should not be wrapped, etc. | 06:20 |
| grepory | jmarsden: fair enough... fair enough. par is easy. :) | 06:21 |
| grepory | micahg: okay. i'm being conscripted for some st: voyager and then it's bedtime. we should do this again. | 06:22 |
| micahg | sure | 06:23 |
| micahg | later this week? | 06:23 |
| grepory | surely. i might try to do a couple before then, but definitely.. maybe tuesday or thursday evening.. around the same time. | 06:24 |
| * micahg is on most of the day | 06:24 | |
| grepory | nini bugs. | 06:28 |
| mac_v | anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts? | 07:44 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
| mac_v | hi... does anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts? | 08:24 |
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| Spee_Der | Good morning.... .. | 14:09 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 14:50 |
| pedro_ | buu! | 14:51 |
| hggdh | baa? | 15:06 |
| alourie|work | hello | 15:39 |
| alourie|work | I'm trying to use launchpad greasemonkey scripts. How should canned answers work? | 15:43 |
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| mac_v | hi... does anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts? | 16:23 |
| micahg | mac_v: why would you do that? | 16:23 |
| micahg | you can edit the responses | 16:24 |
| mac_v | micahg: i want to edit the colors and remove items in the scripts i dont want | 16:24 |
| micahg | hmm | 16:24 |
| micahg | how about addon preferences | 16:24 |
| mac_v | i cant find the .js file :( | 16:24 |
| mac_v | the addon prefs , only allow to enable and disable | 16:25 |
| micahg | well, then enable and disable parts of the scripts | 16:26 |
| micahg | why would you want to remove responses or tags? | 16:26 |
| micahg | *they | 16:27 |
| mac_v | i'v got a crazy setup and the colors collide with scriptsand make it unreadable , hence i had edited the scripts accordingly | 16:27 |
| mac_v | micahg: where does an extension if installed via synaptic get installed? | 16:28 |
| micahg | mac_v ask dpkg :) | 16:28 |
| micahg | dpkg -L pkgname | 16:28 |
| mac_v | oh ;) | 16:28 |
| mac_v | micahg: hehe , i thought it be easier from the firefox expert ;p | 16:29 |
| mac_v | would be* | 16:29 |
| * micahg isn't the expert... | 16:30 | |
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| bullgard4 | Does apport call gdb? | 18:48 |
| hggdh | apport-retrace does | 19:01 |
| hggdh | apport-retrace -g <crashfile> | 19:01 |
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| BUGabundo | hi | 19:51 |
| mac_v | could some one look into this? Bug #413163 , apport removes all attachments , how can we add the crash reports? | 20:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 413163 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in xkl_process_error()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413163 | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | knonw | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | it won't add more dups attachs | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | kinda a mist of feature/bug | 20:04 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo: it just removed from the main bug , i still have my crash reports but it is a dup , could i add it there? | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - apport-unpack /path/to/crash/report . | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | then attach the stacktrace | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | that doesn't matter though, the stacktrace submitted by apport is useless anyway | 20:05 |
| mac_v | chrisccoulson: so , what can we do? | 20:05 |
| mac_v | i mean i | 20:06 |
| BUGabundo | hey chrisccoulson. nice to see you | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | run gnome-settings-daemon in GDB with the "--sync" and "--no-daemon" options, break on gdk_x_error and get a backtrace that way | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hi BUGabundo | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | IMO, apport shouldn't be duping these anyway. even the ones with similar backtraces might be different bugs, due to the asynchronous nature of X | 20:07 |
| mac_v | chrisccoulson: but the crash is random ,happened only once for me :( | 20:07 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - i appreciate that :) | 20:07 |
| hggdh | so I guess this is worth a bug on apport... | 20:07 |
| chrisccoulson | but it doesn't make the apport submitted crash reports any more helpful;) | 20:07 |
| mac_v | hehe ;p | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: AFAIK already is | 20:09 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - i wrote quite a long comment on bug 321041 with some instructions for debugging these X error crashes in g-s-d | 20:09 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 321041 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in xkl_process_error()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321041 | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo | and was closed by pitti | 20:09 |
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| * mac_v checks | 20:10 | |
| hggdh | oh, OK, then, BUGabundo | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | but we could re-raise the concerns | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - it might be worth copying the instructions across to the new bug report (i would do it, but i haven't had a proper look at the new report yet, and I'm about to go and grab some dinner) | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | these X errors really are a pain to debug, and they're the cause of many duplicates right now:( | 20:11 |
| mac_v | i'll read through and copy-paste it :) | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - thanks:) | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | FWIW - i've been seeing some similar g-s-d crashes on login too, but i can never catch them at the right moment;) | 20:12 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - your string of duplicates has the same trace as the string that i already commented on ;) | 20:13 |
| chrisccoulson | (although that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same error yet) | 20:13 |
| mac_v | yeah , just noticed | 20:13 |
| chrisccoulson | mac_v - it's a lot of effort to undupe / dupe them in to one thread. i'd be tempted to set one thread as invalid and leave a comment pointing to the other one | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | the subscribers will all see that then | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | (unless someone is offering to merge them all ;)) | 20:15 |
| mac_v | nice idea ;) | 20:16 |
| hggdh | there is karma for the hero | 20:19 |
| * micahg has done that before | 20:28 | |
| mac_v | micahg: i found the scripts and edited them \o/ | 20:38 |
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| bdmurray | I think I found a bug in openoffice.org but wanted to double check before reporting it. ;-) average() and a range of cells in calc is returning something odd for me | 21:00 |
| thekorn_ | bdmurray, not sure what youu mean, but something like =AVERAGE(A1:A6) is working fine for me | 21:04 |
| bdmurray | thekorn_: thanks! it looks like I had some poorly formatted data in my cells | 21:07 |
| BUGabundo | bdmurray: like numbers as text? | 21:09 |
| bdmurray | there was a leading single quote before the number that was not easily visible in the spreadsheet | 21:10 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 21:10 |
| BUGabundo | that's a *feature* | 21:10 |
| BUGabundo | it forces cells to keep data the way it is | 21:11 |
| bdmurray | how's that? this seems quite odd | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | no | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | bdmurray: it as been like that since works for DOS :) | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | every spreadsheet does it | 21:13 |
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| micahg1 | bdmurray: did I add too many agenda items to the meeting list? | 22:01 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| bdmurray | micahg: I don't think so | 22:02 |
| micahg | ok | 22:03 |
| micahg | ping hggdh | 22:12 |
| hggdh | pong micahg | 22:13 |
| hggdh | brb -- re-logging in | 22:14 |
| micahg | hi | 22:30 |
| hggdh | micahg, re-pong | 22:30 |
| micahg | so, you can follow users now if you are subscribed to the package they are triaging | 22:30 |
| hggdh | I really do not know why I keep trying fglrx :-( | 22:30 |
| micahg | hggdh: fglrx worked for me for awhile | 22:31 |
| hggdh | so it did for me. Then it only works well to lock my laptop | 22:31 |
| hggdh | micahg, yes, you can follow them if you subscribe to the package. The problems are (1) you follow everybody else; (2) you only follow the user on bugs (not on answers) | 22:32 |
| hggdh | one can also follow an user by subscribing to -bugs. But this is not sane | 22:33 |
| bdmurray | what was the question? | 22:33 |
| micahg | hggdh: no, you can filter who you want to follow into a folder and the rest into the trash | 22:34 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, this was bug... | 22:34 |
| micahg | bdmurray: bug 414627 | 22:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627 | 22:35 |
| hggdh | thanks micahg | 22:35 |
| hggdh | micahg, I agree you can filter. The point is you would have to subscribe to -bugs, since you do not know a priori which packages the user is going to work on | 22:35 |
| micahg | hggdh: well, part of my thing is to get new triagers to focus | 22:36 |
| micahg | but you're right, it's not good in all cases | 22:36 |
| micahg | but LP rejected the bug so what can I do | 22:36 |
| hggdh | I think that a starting triager does not know enough to fix on one package. I did wander around, for example | 22:37 |
| bdmurray | you could use https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+commentedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no | 22:37 |
| micahg | hggdh: you just did what you said not to do last night :) | 22:37 |
| bdmurray | basically watching the user's commented bug reports | 22:37 |
| micahg | bdmurray: yes, but it's easier if it comes in my e-mail | 22:38 |
| hggdh | bdmurray, indeed, this is something we can use | 22:38 |
| bdmurray | granted activity won't show up if they don't comment | 22:38 |
| micahg | and I can simply see whether or not they did a good job | 22:38 |
| bdmurray | there's also an rss feed for that fwiw | 22:38 |
| micahg | bdmurray: yep, someone else mentioned that | 22:38 |
| micahg | but again, you just see a summary | 22:38 |
| * hggdh looks for it now :-) | 22:39 | |
| micahg | vs what they actually wrote (which is what counts) | 22:39 |
| mac_v | have i reported this in the wrong section ? Bug #404861 should it be in lp bugs? | 22:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 404861 in launchpad-foundations ""This bug affects me too" needs a ticker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404861 | 22:45 |
| micahg | mac_v: malone is the bug project | 22:45 |
| mac_v | malone ... hmm... didnt know , | 22:46 |
| * mac_v changing | 22:46 | |
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| Flare183 | Are there any GUI applications that I can use to triage bugs, instead of using the command line? | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | Flare183: CLI FTW dude ! :) | 23:55 |
| Flare183 | BUGabundo: haha I know, just I get kinda disorganized when I've got like 5 tabs on gnome-terminal. | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | 5?? | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | that's nothing | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | at work I manage to have 3 gnome terminals with 6-10 tabs | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | connected to several servers heeh | 23:57 |
| Flare183 | Yeah, well its different for me. | 23:57 |
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