[00:19] <micahg> yvan300: was hggdh able to help you?
[00:30] <micahg> hggdh: what happened with the bug before?
[00:33] <yvan300> micahg, more or less
[00:35] <micahg> yvan300: I see the bug hasn't changed :)
[00:38] <yvan300> micahg, yup
[00:53] <micahg> ping hggdh
[01:24] <hggdh> micahg, pong
[01:33]  * hggdh goes walking the dogs
[01:43] <micahg> hggdh: let me know when you are back
[03:09] <hggdh> micahg, I am back
[03:09] <micahg> hi
[03:09] <hggdh> hi
[03:10] <micahg> was wondering if we missed anything with that guy trying to learn triage
[03:10] <hggdh> I think we missed a lot
[03:11] <hggdh> he was interested in *solving* bugs, not on triage
[03:11] <micahg> ah
[03:11] <hggdh> and did not get, I think, that you cannot solve what you do not understand
[03:12] <micahg> indeed, I would see learning triage akin to learnin ghte basics
[03:12] <micahg> also, what did you think of my addition to the meeting agenda
[03:12] <hggdh> well, yes, up to a point. But there is this huge stigma on triaging: this is what you do when you are starting
[03:13] <micahg> why is that bad?
[03:13] <hggdh> on the agenda: I liked the inclusion, this been happening frequently enough to warrant a discussion
[03:14] <hggdh> it is bad because it gives out the impression that once you *know* what to do, there is no more need to triage
[03:14] <micahg> ah, that is bad
[03:14]  * micahg always saw it as a learning experience you build on
[03:15] <hggdh> yes indeed. This is why I try to stress that you cannot solve a problem without understanding *what* is the problem, *where* is the problem, and *why* it is a problem
[03:16] <micahg> I didn't contradict that before, did I
[03:16] <hggdh> no, you did not
[03:16] <micahg> was my browser lesson too much?
[03:16] <hggdh> it was in the right direction, but his attention span was very short ;-)
[03:19] <hggdh> we should also try to make the channel topic more visible (I do not know how, though). But... sometimes I feel nobody ever read it.
[03:30]  * micahg would love someone to mentor for FF busg
[03:30] <micahg> *bugs
[03:31] <micahg> then I could go after the backlog
[03:32] <micahg> hggdh: what do you think of a follow feature like on bugzilla for LP?
[03:32] <grepory> FF bugs?
[03:32] <micahg> grepory: Firefox
[03:32] <grepory> ohhhhh
[03:32] <grepory> i was thinking about going after firefox bugs.
[03:33] <micahg> ok
[03:33] <grepory> the ability to follow other users can come in really handy... especially in a mentor-mentee relationship.
[03:33] <micahg> grepory: what timezone ar eyou in?
[03:33] <grepory> micahg: CST
[03:33] <grepory> you?
[03:33] <micahg> grepory: exactly
[03:34] <micahg> grepory: CDT :)
[03:34] <grepory> UTC-5? i think
[03:34] <grepory> cool
[03:34] <hggdh> micahg, what do you mean?
[03:34] <hggdh> ah
[03:34] <hggdh> wait
[03:34] <micahg> hggdh: on bugzilla you can select someone to follow their comments
[03:35] <micahg> i.e. receive copies
[03:35] <grepory> every e-mail that BZ e-mails them, you receive.
[03:35] <hggdh> heh. Yes. Extremely nice
[03:35] <hggdh> yes, Andre followed me for a while when I started there
[03:36] <hggdh> worth a LP bug on Launchpad
[03:36] <hggdh> this would come really handy when mentoring folks
[03:37]  * micahg is filing
[03:37]  * hggdh waits :-)
[03:38] <micahg> bug 414627
[03:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627
[03:42] <hggdh> I really want to confirm it :-(
[03:42] <micahg> LP admins told me just to subscribe :)
[03:42]  * micahg asked about that yesterday
[03:42] <micahg> they must have different polocies
[03:42] <micahg> *policies
[03:42] <hggdh> that is not an answer, since you do not know where the monitored person went
[03:43] <micahg> no
[03:43] <hggdh> bah I am going to confirm
[03:43] <micahg> not for the bug
[03:43] <micahg> about confirming LP bugs
[03:44] <greg-g> don't confirm LP bugs?
[03:44] <hggdh> too late
[03:44] <hggdh> :-)
[03:44] <mpontillo> couldn't you subscribe to their feed in an RSS reader? ex. http://feeds.launchpad.net/~micahg/latest-bugs.atom
[03:44] <greg-g> are we no qualified to confirm them? :)
[03:44] <greg-g> s/no/not/
[03:44] <hggdh> I will let them complain with me. A bug is a bug is a bug
[03:44] <hggdh> greg-g yes, this is the point
[03:45] <hggdh> on the other hand, it is a different project, so... different rules
[03:45] <micahg> mpontillo: that just shows you which bugs
[03:45] <micahg> not what they saId/did
[03:45] <greg-g> hggdh: right
[03:47] <mpontillo> ah, I see. I suppose a more complete feed would be nice.
[03:47] <micahg> mpontillo: that requires 2 methods for bug watching
[03:48] <micahg> it would be easier to all be in the same system
[03:48] <micahg> even better with a header that you can filter into a mentee folder
[03:49] <micahg> ooh
[03:49] <micahg> I'll add that to the bug request
[03:52] <mpontillo> yeah, it's a good idea. I guess I just prefer RSS feeds for this kind of thing - the e-mail can get overwhelming and it can be annoying to cover all the corner cases when filtering
[03:54]  * micahg keeps adding to the meeting agenda list
[03:56] <hggdh> mpontillo, it is a different usage: we would be monitoring a, er, trainee on triaging, not just receiving bug notifications
[03:56] <hggdh> but I can see this also being done via a RSS
[03:57] <hggdh> Now, to sleep. g'night, all y'all
[03:57] <mpontillo> if it was going to be e-mail, it would be nice to set up an alternate address for easy filtering. so I could send things to mygmailaccount+mentee@gmail.com and be able to filter on that
[03:58] <mpontillo> night
[03:58] <hggdh> mpontillo, good idea. Please add it in the bug
[03:58] <mpontillo> will do
[04:01] <mpontillo> bug 414627 updated
[04:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627
[04:02] <micahg> night hggdh
[04:12] <grepory> mpontillo: that would be really, really nice.
[04:13] <grepory> that was one problem i had w/ the follow feature of BZ.  it was nigh impossible to filter all of the extraneous e-mails in a useful way.
[04:13] <grepory> it's just too simplistic.
[04:16] <mpontillo> yeah - thinking about it, it'd be a rather large change to launchpad. you probably wouldn't want to rely 100% on the "+<alt-addr>" gmail feature, though you could include knowledge of it. so you'd need a general way to register additional e-mail addresses
[04:16] <mpontillo> if done right, you'd be able to use the alternate email addresses anywhere in launchpad, for whatever you wanted
[04:16] <grepory> well, i think it's just A Big Pain to do anything other than a simplistic CC action when you're following someone.
[04:17] <grepory> which is why BZ's implementation is just that.
[04:19] <micahg> grepory: LP is different in that it already has some logic built into its e-mails
[04:19] <mpontillo> I like the way Stack Overflow does per-user feeds: they pretty much include everything the user ever does: ex. http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/user/1 -- that's what I was thinking of when I mentioned RSS
[04:19] <grepory> mmmmm...
[04:19] <grepory> now _that_ would be slick.
[04:19] <grepory> instead of following the person, you can just add their feed to your aggregator.
[04:20] <grepory> micahg: i've been really pleased with LP's e-mail handling.  very intuitive.
[04:27] <mpontillo> I would say that the way LP handles email is better than any other bug tracker I've ever used. but I still have a hard time doing filtering. I want to differentiate between bugs I'm working on, bugs I'm subscribed to, packages I'm subscribed to, bugs I'm subscribed to indirectly...
[04:28] <grepory> well
[04:28] <grepory> you could always filter on the X-Launchpad-Bug-Commenters or X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale headers
[04:28] <grepory> that's a start, at least.
[04:29] <mpontillo> yeah - maybe I've just not spent enough time tweaking the filters... and I use a gmail account so I'm not sure if it can filter on those natively
[04:29] <grepory> let me try
[04:29] <grepory> i use goog too
[04:29] <mpontillo> I saw a sourcepackage=<pkg> in the header but the searching was highlighting text in the body - not sure if it got it
[04:30] <grepory> yeah... the filters aren't that robust.
[04:30] <grepory> this is yet another reason why i'm considering going back to fetchmail+procmail.
[04:30] <mpontillo> indeed.
[04:46] <grepory> does anyone have clean vmware images for 8.04, 9.04 or 9.10? i just found the vmware images for 5, 6, and 7
[05:10] <micahg> ping grepory
[05:20] <micahg> grepory: ?
[05:20] <grepory> yar
[05:20] <micahg> you're familiar with Firefox, right?
[05:20] <grepory> yeah
[05:20] <micahg> ok bug 414417
[05:20] <grepory> i like to think so, at least.
[05:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414417 in firefox-3.0 "cant update current mozilla browser, current version 3.0.13 / "check for updates" not clickable." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414417
[05:21] <micahg> let's discuss what you want to do to this
[05:21] <grepory> ok
[05:22] <grepory> so they're talking about Help -> Check for updates
[05:22] <micahg> right
[05:22] <grepory> which, if i had to guess, has been disabled, because we want them to update it via aptitude or the update manager
[05:22] <micahg> correct :)
[05:23] <grepory> so this is an invalid bug
[05:23] <grepory> but
[05:23] <grepory> we want to give the user some helpful info
[05:23] <micahg> well
[05:23] <micahg> what is the user trying to do
[05:23] <grepory> oh wait
[05:23] <grepory> heh
[05:23] <grepory> update to 3.0.13
[05:23] <grepory> which is already installed.
[05:23] <micahg> so they can't be trying to do that
[05:23] <grepory> no
[05:24] <grepory> but that's what it seems like they are trying to do
[05:24] <grepory> ask for clarification?
[05:24] <micahg> here's the piece you might be missing
[05:24] <micahg> firefox just pushed 3.5.2 to users of 3.0.13 on windows
[05:24] <grepory> ahhh
[05:25] <micahg> so, now what do you think?
[05:25] <grepory> well.. i could tell them that they're running the current version of the firefox-3.0 package, which they have installed.. but if they are trying to upgrade to the latest version (3.5.2), then they could install the firefox-3.5 package
[05:26] <grepory> or i could just ask what version they would like to be running
[05:26] <micahg> yes, but they just need help, right
[05:26] <grepory> oh
[05:26] <grepory> !
[05:26] <grepory> convert to a question?
[05:26] <micahg> Yep :)
[05:26] <micahg> esxactly
[05:26] <grepory> i keep forgetting about that option.
[05:26] <micahg> let me show you a nice page you can reply to the question to
[05:26] <micahg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:27] <micahg> you have the stock response for convert to question?
[05:27] <grepory> yar.
[05:27] <micahg> go for it :)
[05:29] <micahg> great
[05:30] <micahg> now, if you want, you can answer the question
[05:30] <grepory> i think i will!
[05:33] <grepory> woot
[05:33] <micahg> grepory: that was an awesome answer
[05:33] <micahg> great job
[05:33] <micahg> see, easy bug :)
[05:34] <grepory> totes.
[05:36] <micahg> you wanna go find one to triage now?
[05:36] <grepory> sure
[05:37] <grepory> look for the new+unconfirmed bugs, right?
[05:37] <grepory> errr undecided
[05:38] <micahg> yeah or you can go to a package and click new bugs
[05:42] <grepory> there sure are a lot of bugs involving flash.
[05:44] <grepory> well, i guess rather than cherry-picking easy-looking bugs.. i'll just start at the top.
[05:44] <grepory> bug 414532
[05:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414532 in firefox-3.0 "firefox need to reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414532
[05:44] <micahg> grepory: it's ok to cherry pick
[05:44] <grepory> heh.  well i wasn't having much luck
[05:46] <micahg> grepory: ok, what do you want to do with that one?
[05:47] <grepory> well.. we don't have enough information to reproduce.
[05:47] <micahg> right...there are a few bugs like this
[05:48] <grepory> so send the needs more info canned response and set it to incomplete?
[05:48] <micahg> well, are there any other similar bugs
[05:48] <grepory> hmmm
[05:49] <micahg> you probably won't find one, so I'll give it to you...bug 413177
[05:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 413177 in firefox "firefox tells me to restart my system" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413177
[05:49] <micahg> still waiting on a response
[05:49] <grepory> maybe i should do a simple search for "firefox restart"
[05:49] <grepory> lag
[05:49] <micahg> that's a good idea
[05:49] <micahg> also, take a look at the ubufox package
[05:50] <grepory> ok
[05:50] <micahg> as that prompts the user to restart firefox
[05:50] <micahg> in teh browser
[05:50] <micahg> not by notification
[05:50] <micahg> but not sure if that's the problem
[05:52] <grepory> hmm... 413177 certainly sounds like the same kind of issue
[05:52] <grepory> okay so the the report in 414532 has ubufox installed
[05:52] <grepory> it would be nice if we knew if 413177 had it installed too
[05:54] <grepory> and judging by a quick search in the ubufox package, it does prompt people for restarts
[05:54] <grepory> so maybe ubufox is updating stuff? or it's a bug w/ ubufox?
[06:01] <micahg> grepory: any ideas
[06:01] <micahg> oops
[06:01] <micahg> missed your correspondence
[06:02] <micahg> ok, so ubufox checks to see if an updated firefox and if so, prompts the user to restart
[06:02] <micahg> if the bug is being prompted in the browser, problem is ubufox
[06:04] <grepory> *nod*
[06:04] <grepory> so really, needs more info
[06:05] <micahg> if the problem is with the notification that firefox has been updated and you should restart your browser (i.e. system notification) then the problem could be elsewhere
[06:05] <micahg> yes
[06:05] <micahg> so, we need to know if the notification is in the browser or a system notification
[06:05]  * grepory nods
[06:06] <micahg> also, make sure you subscribe so that you know when the user responds
[06:06]  * grepory nods
[06:06] <micahg> you're doing great
[06:07] <grepory> So respond with something like
[06:07] <grepory> Thanks for your report ... We need more information to continue ... Does the notification to restart Firefox come from Ubuntu via the update manager or is it a message window coming from the browser?
[06:07] <grepory> s/message window/error message?
[06:08] <micahg> it's not an error message
[06:08] <micahg> you know the bar you get when you're asked to save a password
[06:08] <grepory> yeah
[06:08] <grepory> ohhhh!
[06:08] <grepory> that
[06:08] <grepory> yeah
[06:08] <micahg> well, it's like that, except it says please restart firefox or something to that extent
[06:08] <grepory> that's what ubufox presents?
[06:08] <grepory> ok
[06:08] <micahg> yeah
[06:09] <grepory> so ... "Does the notification appear in the Firefox window itself or does it appear to be a notification from the operating system?"
[06:09] <micahg> that sounds better
[06:09] <grepory> s/the operating system/ubuntu .. maybe.
[06:10] <micahg> system tray?
[06:10] <grepory> that works.
[06:10] <micahg> if you want to show a whole response before you post, you can use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <grepory> sounds good
[06:12] <grepory> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/254368/
[06:13] <grepory> well that rendered awkwardly.
[06:14] <micahg> yeah, that's the way it normally does it
[06:14] <micahg> but it looks good
[06:14] <grepory> cool beans.
[06:14] <micahg> can you subscribe me ask well
[06:14] <micahg> *as
[06:14] <grepory> sure
[06:15] <grepory> done
[06:15] <grepory> ahh.. i like lp so much.
[06:17] <micahg> grepory: great job
[06:17] <grepory> thanks!
[06:17] <grepory> i appreciate the help.
[06:18] <jmarsden> To wrap the text you can pipe it through par, so   whatever |par |pastebinit
[06:19] <grepory> or pastebin could wrap things sensically for me ;) but thanks.  just installed it.
[06:20] <jmarsden> grepory: The problem with askig pastebinit to be 'sensible' is that then it messes up code snippets that should not be wrapped, etc.
[06:21] <grepory> jmarsden: fair enough... fair enough.  par is easy. :)
[06:22] <grepory> micahg: okay. i'm being conscripted for some st: voyager and then it's bedtime.  we should do this again.
[06:23] <micahg> sure
[06:23] <micahg> later this week?
[06:24] <grepory> surely.  i might try to do a couple before then, but definitely.. maybe tuesday or thursday evening.. around the same time.
[06:24]  * micahg is on most of the day
[06:28] <grepory> nini bugs.
[07:44] <mac_v> anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts?
[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <mac_v> hi... does anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts?
[14:09] <Spee_Der> Good morning.... ..
[14:50] <bddebian> Boo
[14:51] <pedro_> buu!
[15:06] <hggdh> baa?
[15:39] <alourie|work> hello
[15:43] <alourie|work> I'm trying to use launchpad greasemonkey scripts. How should canned answers work?
[16:23] <mac_v> hi... does anyone know how to edit the lp-improvements scripts?
[16:23] <micahg> mac_v: why would you do that?
[16:24] <micahg> you can edit the responses
[16:24] <mac_v> micahg: i want to edit the colors and remove items in the scripts i dont want
[16:24] <micahg> hmm
[16:24] <micahg> how about addon preferences
[16:24] <mac_v> i cant find the .js file :(
[16:25] <mac_v> the addon prefs , only allow to enable and disable
[16:26] <micahg> well, then enable and disable parts of the scripts
[16:26] <micahg> why would you want to remove responses or tags?
[16:27] <micahg> *they
[16:27] <mac_v> i'v got a crazy setup and the colors collide with scriptsand make it unreadable , hence i had edited the scripts accordingly
[16:28] <mac_v> micahg: where does an extension if installed via synaptic get installed?
[16:28] <micahg> mac_v ask dpkg :)
[16:28] <micahg> dpkg -L pkgname
[16:28] <mac_v> oh ;)
[16:29] <mac_v> micahg: hehe , i thought it be easier from the firefox expert ;p
[16:29] <mac_v> would be*
[16:30]  * micahg isn't the expert...
[18:48] <bullgard4> Does apport call gdb?
[19:01] <hggdh> apport-retrace does
[19:01] <hggdh> apport-retrace -g <crashfile>
[19:51] <BUGabundo> hi
[20:02] <mac_v> could some one look into this?  Bug #413163 , apport removes all attachments , how can we add the crash reports?
[20:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 413163 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in xkl_process_error()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413163
[20:04] <BUGabundo> knonw
[20:04] <BUGabundo> it won't add more dups attachs
[20:04] <BUGabundo> kinda a mist of feature/bug
[20:05] <mac_v> BUGabundo: it just removed from the main bug , i still have my crash reports but it is a dup , could i add it there?
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - apport-unpack /path/to/crash/report .
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> then attach the stacktrace
[20:05] <chrisccoulson> that doesn't matter though, the stacktrace submitted by apport is useless anyway
[20:05] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: so , what can we do?
[20:06] <mac_v> i mean i
[20:06] <BUGabundo> hey chrisccoulson. nice to see you
[20:06] <chrisccoulson> run gnome-settings-daemon in GDB with the "--sync" and "--no-daemon" options, break on gdk_x_error and get a backtrace that way
[20:06] <chrisccoulson> hi BUGabundo
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> IMO, apport shouldn't be duping these anyway. even the ones with similar backtraces might be different bugs, due to the asynchronous nature of X
[20:07] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: but the crash is random ,happened only once for me :(
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - i appreciate that :)
[20:07] <hggdh> so I guess this is worth a bug on apport...
[20:07] <chrisccoulson> but it doesn't make the apport submitted  crash reports any more helpful;)
[20:08] <mac_v> hehe ;p
[20:09] <BUGabundo> hggdh: AFAIK already is
[20:09] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - i wrote quite a long comment on bug 321041 with some instructions for debugging these X error crashes in g-s-d
[20:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 321041 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in xkl_process_error()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321041
[20:09] <BUGabundo> and was closed by pitti
[20:10]  * mac_v checks
[20:10] <hggdh> oh, OK, then, BUGabundo
[20:10] <BUGabundo> but we could re-raise the concerns
[20:10] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - it might be worth copying the instructions across to the new bug report (i would do it, but i haven't had a proper look at the new report yet, and I'm about to go and grab some dinner)
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> these X errors really are a pain to debug, and they're the cause of many duplicates right now:(
[20:11] <mac_v> i'll read through and copy-paste it :)
[20:11] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - thanks:)
[20:12] <chrisccoulson> FWIW - i've been seeing some similar g-s-d crashes on login too, but i can never catch them at the right moment;)
[20:13] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - your string of duplicates has the same trace as the string that i already commented on ;)
[20:13] <chrisccoulson> (although that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same error yet)
[20:13] <mac_v> yeah , just noticed
[20:15] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - it's a lot of effort to undupe / dupe them in to one thread. i'd be tempted to set one thread as invalid and leave a comment pointing to the other one
[20:15] <chrisccoulson> the subscribers will all see that then
[20:15] <chrisccoulson> (unless someone is offering to merge them all ;))
[20:16] <mac_v> nice idea ;)
[20:19] <hggdh> there is karma for the hero
[20:28]  * micahg has done that before
[20:38] <mac_v> micahg: i found the scripts and edited them \o/
[21:00] <bdmurray> I think I found a bug in openoffice.org but wanted to double check before reporting it. ;-)  average() and a range of cells in calc is returning something odd for me
[21:04] <thekorn_> bdmurray, not sure what youu mean, but something like   =AVERAGE(A1:A6)  is working fine for me
[21:07] <bdmurray> thekorn_: thanks!  it looks like I had some poorly formatted data in my cells
[21:09] <BUGabundo> bdmurray: like numbers as text?
[21:10] <bdmurray> there was a leading single quote before the number that was not easily visible in the spreadsheet
[21:10] <BUGabundo> yeah
[21:10] <BUGabundo> that's a *feature*
[21:11] <BUGabundo> it forces cells to keep data the way it is
[21:12] <bdmurray> how's that?  this seems quite odd
[21:12] <BUGabundo> no
[21:13] <BUGabundo> bdmurray: it as been like that since works for DOS :)
[21:13] <BUGabundo> every spreadsheet does it
[22:01] <micahg1> bdmurray: did I add too many agenda items to the meeting list?
[22:02] <bdmurray> micahg: I don't think so
[22:03] <micahg> ok
[22:12] <micahg> ping hggdh
[22:13] <hggdh> pong micahg
[22:14] <hggdh> brb -- re-logging in
[22:30] <micahg> hi
[22:30] <hggdh> micahg, re-pong
[22:30] <micahg> so, you can follow users now if you are subscribed to the package they are triaging
[22:30] <hggdh> I really do not know why I keep trying fglrx :-(
[22:31] <micahg> hggdh: fglrx worked for me for  awhile
[22:31] <hggdh> so it did for me. Then it only works well to lock my laptop
[22:32] <hggdh> micahg, yes, you can follow them if you subscribe to the package. The problems are (1) you follow everybody else; (2) you only follow the user on bugs (not on answers)
[22:33] <hggdh> one can also follow an user by subscribing to -bugs. But this is not sane
[22:33] <bdmurray> what was the question?
[22:34] <micahg> hggdh: no, you can filter who you want to follow into a folder and the rest into the trash
[22:34] <hggdh> bdmurray, this was bug...
[22:35] <micahg> bdmurray:  bug 414627
[22:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 414627 in malone "allow users to select another user to follow/watch" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414627
[22:35] <hggdh> thanks micahg
[22:35] <hggdh> micahg, I agree you can filter. The point is you would have to subscribe to -bugs, since you do not know a priori which packages the user is going to work on
[22:36] <micahg> hggdh: well, part of my thing is to get new triagers to focus
[22:36] <micahg> but you're right, it's not good in all cases
[22:36] <micahg> but LP rejected the bug so what can I do
[22:37] <hggdh> I think that a starting triager does not know enough to fix on one package. I did wander around, for example
[22:37] <bdmurray> you could use https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+commentedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no
[22:37] <micahg> hggdh: you just did what you said not to do last night :)
[22:37] <bdmurray> basically watching the user's commented bug reports
[22:38] <micahg> bdmurray: yes, but it's easier if it comes in my e-mail
[22:38] <hggdh> bdmurray, indeed, this is something we can use
[22:38] <bdmurray> granted activity won't show up if they don't comment
[22:38] <micahg> and I can simply see whether or not they did a good job
[22:38] <bdmurray> there's also an rss feed for that fwiw
[22:38] <micahg> bdmurray: yep, someone else mentioned that
[22:38] <micahg> but again, you just see a summary
[22:39]  * hggdh looks for it now :-)
[22:39] <micahg> vs what they actually wrote (which is what counts)
[22:45] <mac_v> have i reported this in the wrong section ? Bug #404861 should it be in lp bugs?
[22:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 404861 in launchpad-foundations ""This bug affects me too" needs a ticker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404861
[22:45] <micahg> mac_v: malone is the bug project
[22:46] <mac_v> malone ... hmm... didnt know  ,
[22:46]  * mac_v changing
[23:55] <Flare183> Are there any GUI applications that I can use to triage bugs, instead of using the command line?
[23:55] <BUGabundo> Flare183: CLI FTW dude ! :)
[23:56] <Flare183> BUGabundo: haha I know, just I get kinda disorganized when I've got like 5 tabs on gnome-terminal.
[23:56] <BUGabundo> 5??
[23:56] <BUGabundo> that's nothing
[23:57] <BUGabundo> at work I manage to have 3 gnome terminals with 6-10 tabs
[23:57] <BUGabundo> connected to several servers heeh
[23:57] <Flare183> Yeah, well its different for me.