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awaltonMDC1, sorry, long weekend. birthday celebrations got kind of out of hand..00:41
awaltonpatch is pushed./00:42
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MDC1awalton, no problem - great work with pushing it :)08:09
huatsmorning everyone08:26
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rodrigo_hmm, libogg-dev is missing the .la file10:02
TheMusorodrigo_: Thats a good thing right?10:05
TheMusoActually no, if it has a .la file thats ok, but if it causes problems, then cleaning it is a good thing. :)_10:05
rodrigo_well, gnome-control-center from git fails compiling because of that missing file10:20
rodrigo_TheMuso: so probably not a good thing :)10:21
gesercheck which other .la references it and fix it10:26
rodrigo_yeah, already rebuilding all dependencies10:29
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rodrigo_well, rebuilding dependencies still get me to the missing .la file problem11:46
rodrigo_shouldn't really the file be in the -dev package?11:46
rodrigo_the libogg.la in libogg-dev?11:46
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geserthe is a slow movement to get rid of .la files where possible12:32
geserrodrigo_: have you found out who exactly references it? is it g-c-c itself or one of the build-dependencies?12:34
rodrigo_geser: rebuilding the dependencies, it stopped in libcanberra because of that error also12:37
rodrigo_geser: I think libcanberra directly links to it12:37
geserrodrigo_: it's libvorbis-dev12:41
rodrigo_oh12:41
rodrigo_libogg.so belongs to libogg-dev12:41
geserlibvorbis.la:dependency_libs=' -L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libogg.la -lm'12:41
rodrigo_so, that's what needs fixing?12:42
rodrigo_-logg should be enough there I guess12:42
geserprobably not needed at all, looking at the .pc files12:44
rodrigo_the .pc files look ok12:46
geserrodrigo_: seems your are right: dependency_libs=' -L/usr/lib -logg -lm'12:46
geserfrom libvorbis-dev 1.2.0.dfsg-6 (currently building)12:47
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mptmvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeasonOfUsabilityWeek8Notes14:10
mvothanks mpt14:17
mptImportError: No module named aptdaemon14:18
mptmvo, do I need to upgrade to Karmic for that?14:18
mvompt: hm, you will need aptdaemon, I can make it work without, but for the advanced stuff its going to be required. I will create a PPA14:20
mvompt: one suggestion I got was to use the term "get new software" (or something like that) instead of "availabe" so that the user does not gets confused by mixing "availabe" with "installed"14:21
mptmvo, oh, one question I was going to ask was where the text "Give your application an accessibility workout" comes from for Accerciser in Add/Remove14:29
mac_vmpt: when will "appcenter" be in Karmic ?14:29
mptbecause that text doesn't show up when I do "apt-cache show accerciser"14:29
mvompt: from the desktop file of the package14:30
mptah, the Comment field14:31
mptI didn't see that one14:31
mptmvo, but then Add/Remove doesn't show the first line of the description, "an interactive Python accessibility explorer for the GNOME desktop", at all14:31
mptmvo, is that a deliberate decision?14:31
mptmac_v, soon14:32
mvompt: no, thats a bug, let me search for the bug number14:32
mptmvo, ah, so the missing stuff is supposed to be the stuff that's in bold?14:33
mac_v;)14:33
mvompt: yes14:35
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mvompt: give me a minute to figure out why its wrong14:35
mvompt: should be fixed now14:38
mpthehe, cool14:42
rodrigo_hmm, there is no way to put the tabs in empathy on one side rather than at the top?15:42
rodrigo_and still no coloring of tabs when someone talks to me :(15:43
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ccheneyanyone know if the codec detector in karmic is broken? i tried playing a mp3 and totem just tells me "An error occurred \n Internal data flow error"16:44
mac_vccheney: its not been working from jaunty itself !16:45
mac_vlet me get you a bug #16:45
ccheneymac_v: ah ok16:46
ccheneymac_v: it had been working for me on jaunty but maybe an update broke jaunty also16:47
mvomac_v: hm, it should work on jaunty16:50
mvomac_v: what kind of error do you get there?16:50
mac_vmvo: actually i'm on karmic , this is my Bug #405155, i cannot comment personally on Jaunty since it was a serially upgraded system , but there are several others saying jaunty doesn offer to install > ex: Bug #35113016:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 405155 in gnome-codec-install "No prompt to install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40515516:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 351130 in gnome-codec-install "[jaunty] doesn't offer to install codecs when inserting non encrypted DVD " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35113016:54
mac_vmvo: i'v added a comment in the first bug report ,  listing the different bugs related to the gnome-codec-install16:56
mac_vmaybe i should have first said it *seems* to be not working in Jaunty itself ;p16:57
mvomac_v: thanks, I can have a look tomorrow16:58
mac_vmvo:  sure... :)16:59
* mvo waves and does some shopping17:01
jcastrokenvandine: are you around this week or on holiday17:24
brycesweet, in-place bug description editing now17:31
chrisccoulsonnice, i haven't tried that yet though17:33
chrisccoulsoni haven't been on launchpad once all day ;)17:34
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ccheneyis there a reason the metacity window manager settings plugin for g-c-c isn't packaged?20:15
ccheneyits built by g-c-c but is just left out20:15
* ccheney thinks it is a plugin anyway20:16
chrisccoulsonyou're meant to be on holiday seb128 ;)21:46
chrisccoulson(hello btw)21:46
seb128hey chrisccoulson21:46
seb128I'm on holidays, just lurking a bit to what's going on in the evening21:47
chrisccoulsonnot much is going on ;)21:47
chrisccoulsonwe're getting lots of g-s-d crash duplicate now21:47
chrisccoulsonthat's about it;)21:47
seb128yeah, I've notice21:48
seb128I've seen the discussion with svu too21:48
seb128I try to read emails once a day or at least clean through21:48
seb128so I don't have some zillion when I'm back21:48
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, that's probably a good idea;)21:49
chrisccoulsonhopefully we'll have this crash fixed before you come back21:49
chrisccoulsonbryce - you around?21:57
brycechrisccoulson, maybe22:01
brycechrisccoulson, if I wasn't, I'd prefer you just ask the question so when I returned I could respond22:02
bryce(otherwise we end up playing ping-pong)22:02
chrisccoulsonhi bryce - i'm not sure if you know this or not (or perhaps you will know it off the top of your head ;) ) - is there a build-time option for libx11 so that applications always run synchronously? (for making debugging random X errors a bit easier)22:02
chrisccoulsoni'm trying to debug a random crash due to an unhandled X error, but it seems the application is still communicating asynchronously with the server when it crashes22:03
chrisccoulson(do you not enjoy ping-pong by the way? ;))22:04
brycechrisccoulson, ./configure --help reveals no such flag22:05
chrisccoulsonhmm, ok. thanks anyway :)22:05
chrisccoulsonperhaps you know of an easier way? ;)22:05
brycechrisccoulson, tried xtrace yet?22:05
chrisccoulsoni haven't actually22:06
chrisccoulsoni didn't know it existed until just now ;)22:06
brycegive that a go, it'll probably help22:06
chrisccoulsonthanks bryce, i'll give that a go22:06
brycechrisccoulson, I seem to recall you need to run your X without the -nolisten tcp flag in order to make it work22:07
brycechrisccoulson, ps aux | grep X22:07
chrisccoulsonthanks, i'll remove those then22:08

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