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| VilasBoas | Hy does anyone know how to enable wireless on a Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, 1.1.0 ?? | 00:42 |
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| TheMuso | VilasBoas: If you are using Ubuntu, it should just work. What version of Ubuntu are you using? | 00:47 |
| VilasBoas | I?m using ubuntu 9.04 i386 | 00:48 |
| VilasBoas | this is the resolte of my lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/254282/ | 00:48 |
| ccheney | how do i enable timestamps in empathy? | 04:19 |
| * ccheney wonders if there is no way as empathy is a real gnome app unlike pidgin | 04:20 | |
| * ccheney thinks he will probably be running kubuntu by 10.04 if the continued removal of features keeps up :-\ | 04:22 | |
| ScottK | ccheney: ;-) | 04:24 |
| ScottK | ccheney: Speaking of which, are we getting openoffice-kde back anytime soon? | 04:24 |
| ccheney | ScottK: yea maybe tomorrow (i hope) | 04:25 |
| ccheney | ScottK: its in OOo 3.1.1 | 04:25 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 04:25 |
| ccheney | i think i have a working build done now, ran into a few issues on friday which seem to be fixed now | 04:26 |
| ccheney | well other than empathy being useless so far karmic is looking nice, i had to switch back to jaunty for a while, just upgraded again today | 04:28 |
| ccheney | for me accurate timestamps (per message) are almost as important as the messages themselves, so with empathy having what appears to only be a timestamp for when the window opens it doesn't look particularly useful | 04:29 |
| ScottK | ccheney: I have to the second timestamps in Quassel (currently the default Kubuntu IRC client). | 04:32 |
| ccheney | ScottK: yea, and pidgin does that also :-) | 04:34 |
| * ccheney has a current kubuntu iso, will have to test it out in a vm | 04:34 | |
| TheMuso | ccheney: The timestamp could be theme specific. | 05:01 |
| ccheney | TheMuso: hmm, having timestamps in empathy is a 'theme' option? | 05:05 |
| TheMuso | ccheney: Empathy supports different chat themes. | 05:05 |
| TheMuso | SO a theme may or may not have timestamps, so far as I understand things. | 05:05 |
| TheMuso | but it seems themes don't yet have preferences. | 05:06 |
| TheMuso | The classic theme does have timestamps. | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | although they are displayed relative to each other. | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | So the date is only displayed if you continue a conversation on a different day, otherwise the time gets shown, and only if the minute has changed. | 05:08 |
| wgrant | I think it only shows timestamps if there have been a few minutes since the last message. | 05:09 |
| wgrant | But it's a bit hard to tell. | 05:09 |
| maco | wait what? relative? like it says "5 seconds later..."? | 05:09 |
| wgrant | Not for me. | 05:10 |
| ojwb | I'm using the classic theme for jaunty's empathy | 05:12 |
| ojwb | at least with jabber, I get a centred grey "- 15:40 -" or similar before each "burst" of chatter | 05:12 |
| ojwb | so if both people say something soon after the other it doesn't put in a new timestamp, or something like that | 05:13 |
| ojwb | AFAIK, I've never configured anything to do with it | 05:13 |
| wgrant | That's the default. | 05:14 |
| wgrant | Which is complainable about. | 05:14 |
| wgrant | I'd like at least an easy option. | 05:14 |
| ojwb | yeah, I was just trying to clarify as people seemed to be misunderstanding each other a bit | 05:19 |
| maco | ive never used it (well, i tried once, noticed a lack of a feature i like,and stopped) so i didnt understand "displayed relative" | 05:25 |
| ccheney | hmm i backed up my evolution mail before reinstalling but evolution refuses to restore from it claiming its bad archive, i can untar it just fine though | 06:04 |
| ccheney | i guess i am really glad that i use imap or it would be a big pita to fix | 06:04 |
| ccheney | so its only a small pita to fix instead | 06:05 |
| * ccheney thinks maybe this is evolution's way of telling me to stop using it and switch to mutt or thunderbird | 06:05 | |
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| TheMuso | c | 06:57 |
| lifeless | d | 06:58 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
| maco | hello :) | 08:02 |
| ojwb | mvo: if you want to give that xapian-core patch some testing in karmic, it'd be good to do it soon as feature freeze isn't far off... | 08:33 |
| ojwb | or we can decide it's fine, or that we don't want to risk it | 08:33 |
| ojwb | it's been on trunk for ages, but needed quite a few adjustments to apply | 08:35 |
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| mvo | ojwb: I add it now and upload a new version. sorry for the delay, I was on a vacation for some days | 09:01 |
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| * ojwb guessed! | 09:05 | |
| lifeless | mvo: hi | 09:13 |
| mvo | hi lifeless | 09:13 |
| lifeless | https://edge.launchpad.net/conflictchecker is now team owned, and you're an admin | 09:13 |
| mvo | cool, thanks lifeless | 09:14 |
| lifeless | n | 09:15 |
| lifeless | np | 09:15 |
| lifeless | shoulda done that a while back | 09:15 |
| * mvo nods | 09:18 | |
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| siretart` | mvo: around? | 12:11 |
| mvo | siretart`: yes, but I have not yet had a chance to read your mail yet (just returned from vac) | 12:14 |
| siretart` | mvo: ah, in that case, welcome back! :-) | 12:14 |
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| rtg | urk! nautilus has gone crazy, creating and destroying hundreds of copies. anyone else having this problem? | 13:15 |
| ogra | copies of what ? | 13:15 |
| * ogra has no issues here | 13:15 | |
| rtg | ogra, copies of nautilus. | 13:16 |
| ogra | fun, seb is on vacation for two weeks :P | 13:16 |
| * ogra didnt upgrade today yet ... | 13:16 | |
| ogra | let me try | 13:16 |
| rtg | ogra, I think I'll just run a dist-upgrade and then restart. | 13:17 |
| ogra | i hope you mean you run update-manager instead of doing a dist-upgrade ;) | 13:18 |
| rtg | ogra, sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade | 13:19 |
| ogra | use update-manager instead | 13:19 |
| ogra | it has hooks for special cases you might need under some circumstances ... to clean up old cruft etc | 13:20 |
| rtg | ogra, within a development release ? never! it always messes up. | 13:20 |
| StevenK | Then file a bug | 13:21 |
| ogra | right | 13:21 |
| rtg | nag, nag, nag | 13:21 |
| StevenK | Yup | 13:22 |
| rtg | hah! whatever gnome library got updated killed the nautilus D-bus wars | 13:25 |
| ogra | :) | 13:25 |
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| idlogin | Requested 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.17.3' but version of GTK+ is 2.16.1 | 14:00 |
| idlogin | Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you | 14:00 |
| idlogin | installed software in a non-standard prefix. | 14:00 |
| idlogin | Alternatively, you may set the environment variables CHEESE_CFLAGS | 14:00 |
| idlogin | and CHEESE_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. | 14:00 |
| idlogin | See the pkg-config man page for more details. | 14:00 |
| idlogin | i get the above error. ubuntu 9.04 has only got libgtk2.0-dev 2.16.x but this program cheese i'm trying to compile say's it needs 2.17.3 | 14:00 |
| idlogin | any ideas? | 14:00 |
| SeaOrifice | idlogin: try reinstalling or check up apt.alturl.com if u are an advanced user | 14:06 |
| Laney | props to whoever's on the queue | 14:06 |
| * Laney fist bumps you | 14:06 | |
| directhex | terrorist fist jab! :o | 14:08 |
| james_w | zero component mismatches? You can't be serious! :-) | 14:18 |
| idlogin | SeaOrifice: Thanks. trying to reinstall still give libgtk2.0-dev-2.16.1 which is what i get when i search apt.alturl.com | 14:28 |
| idlogin | i need something => 2.17.3. is there a way i can build that myself from sources? | 14:28 |
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| mathiaz | james_w: slangasek: could you promote mysql-5.1 to main? | 15:38 |
| mathiaz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/408333 | 15:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 408333 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "MIR for mysql 5.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 15:38 |
| james_w | mathiaz: what will depend on it? | 15:57 |
| mathiaz | james_w: you mean which new packages would be pulled in from universe? | 15:58 |
| mathiaz | james_w: AFAICT none | 15:58 |
| james_w | no | 15:58 |
| james_w | what will keep it in main? | 15:58 |
| james_w | seeds? | 15:58 |
| mathiaz | james_w: yes - mysql-5.1 builds mysql-server now | 15:58 |
| mathiaz | james_w: which is seeded IIRC | 15:59 |
| james_w | ok | 15:59 |
| mathiaz | james_w: mysql-server is in the server-ship seed | 15:59 |
| james_w | mathiaz: do you need things demoted at the same time? | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | james_w: mysql-dfsg-5.0 | 16:03 |
| james_w | and all the -5.0 bits? | 16:04 |
| mathiaz | james_w: yes | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | james_w: libmysqclient15off is probably still required by some packages in main | 16:08 |
| james_w | ok | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | james_w: they'll have to be rebuild against 5.1 | 16:08 |
| james_w | you want all binaries from the 5.1 package promoted? | 16:09 |
| mathiaz | james_w: all except libmysqld-{dev,pic} | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | james_w: all the other packages were already part of main for mysql-5.0 | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | james_w: the libmysqld-* are new packages that weren't in 5.0 | 16:12 |
| james_w | mathiaz: done | 16:12 |
| mathiaz | james_w: \o/ - thank you! | 16:13 |
| james_w | please check in an hour or so that things look as you expect | 16:13 |
| kirkland | ogra: ping | 16:13 |
| james_w | I demoted 15off as well, so transitioning those packages would be appreciated | 16:13 |
| dholbach | can somebody moderate my u-d-a@ mail? | 16:14 |
| ogra | kirkland, hey | 16:14 |
| kirkland | ogra: hiya, i didn't see any uploads to qemu-kvm, just checking | 16:14 |
| ogra | kirkland, i did about 5 yesterday :) | 16:14 |
| kirkland | ogra: oh :-) /me checks again | 16:14 |
| ogra | sorry that it took so long but we had some disasters on armel | 16:15 |
| kirkland | ogra: okey doke, no worries | 16:15 |
| ogra | should be all fine now | 16:15 |
| kirkland | ogra: cool, i'll play with those | 16:15 |
| kirkland | ogra: sorry, my comment was about 24 hours stale :-) | 16:15 |
| kirkland | ogra: i checked yesterday morning, and hadn't seen anything | 16:15 |
| ogra | i'm doing a full copy of the source tree now at buuld time for the static stuff that will make sure we'll never interfere | 16:16 |
| ogra | *build | 16:16 |
| kirkland | ogra: cool | 16:16 |
| * ogra is just researching why there are so many qemus fixes in the suse src rpm that never went upstream | 16:17 | |
| ogra | especially one that makes mono work on arm ... tsk | 16:18 |
| dholbach | can somebody moderate my u-d-a@ mail? | 16:59 |
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| Laibsch | bryce: in view of bug 363238, would it be possible to update xorg-xserver-video-ati past http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=f564460e94c9d0f1cf3ff4b8535481b2b8b4e9c1 ? | 17:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 363238 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "very poor Xorg performance on various older graphics HW - XAA solves this" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363238 | 17:30 |
| Laibsch | or cherry-pick? | 17:30 |
| Laibsch | The current Jaunty driver still has this fairly severe problem. | 17:30 |
| bryce | Laibsch, yep, is that the commit needed? | 17:31 |
| Laibsch | I think so | 17:31 |
| Laibsch | Or I should say, I'm quite certain | 17:31 |
| Laibsch | It's Rolf | 17:32 |
| Laibsch | I've been testing and packaging bugfixed packages | 17:32 |
| Laibsch | I think it's fairly well-tested | 17:32 |
| bryce | patch looks sane, yeah think we can include it | 17:33 |
| hyperair | hmm new mesa in xorg-edgers eh.. | 17:33 |
| bryce | Laibsch, I'm hesitant to move our git snapshot up newer since then it moves us into kms territory, which is still pretty buggy | 17:34 |
| bryce | but looks like this can be merged independent of that | 17:34 |
| Laibsch | cool | 17:37 |
| lamont | Keybuk: thoughts on bug 540575? | 17:46 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 540575 could not be found | 17:46 |
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| superm1 | Keybuk, are you planning on pulling in udev 146 soonish? | 18:13 |
| robbiew | lamont: FYI - Keybuk is on holiday. | 18:14 |
| robbiew | superm1: ^ | 18:14 |
| superm1 | Then i guess that's a "no" :) | 18:17 |
| robbiew | superm1: he's lurking around though...so things may "magically" happen ;) | 18:17 |
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| NCommander | ScottK, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/411849 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 411849 in hardy-backports "Please backport security fix for USN-812-1 in subversion 1.5" [Undecided,New] | 18:40 |
| zul | Caesar: ping i have a couple of puppet questions for you | 18:53 |
| Ampelbein | hi there. the NBS list was not updated for some days now, is this a known issue? (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/) | 18:57 |
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| james_w | Ampelbein: heh, how did I miss that earlier? | 19:19 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: how would i know? ;-) so I guess it was not a known issue... | 19:20 |
| james_w | not to me at least | 19:21 |
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| james_w | Ampelbein: should be updating now, yay for silent failures. Thanks for noticing | 19:44 |
| jdstrand | kirkland: hey, is what I am seeing in this build from my ppa: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30425319/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.libvirt_0.7.0-1ubuntu2~jdstrand1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz the same as bug #399459? | 19:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 399459 in open-iscsi "open-iscsi in hardy fails to install in pbuilder as a build-dependency" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399459 | 19:46 |
| jdstrand | kirkland: actually, I can answer that... it is not | 19:47 |
| jdstrand | kirkland: however, is what I am seeing in my ppa known? | 19:47 |
| kirkland | jdstrand: i've never seen that | 19:49 |
| kirkland | jdstrand: actually, I really think open-iscsi should have a -dev package | 19:49 |
| kirkland | jdstrand: that doesn't require starting that (crappy) init script | 19:49 |
| kirkland | jdstrand: slangasek and co. have worked on iscsi lately, i wonder if they've added something that depends on /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d perhaps? | 19:50 |
| slangasek | not I | 19:50 |
| kirkland | slangasek: hey, thanks. | 19:50 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: have you seen this? ^ | 19:53 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: yes | 19:54 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d is not created in the build chroots IIRC | 19:55 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: which is the reason why open-iscsi is failing to install | 19:55 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: yes, that was my conclusion as well. is there a bug? is it being worked on on? what normally creates /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d ? | 19:56 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: rsyslog removes things from there in its postrm it looks like | 19:58 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: so a syslog to rsyslog transition issue, possibly? | 19:58 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: may be | 19:58 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: openiscsi would only fail if /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d/ the directory doesn't exist | 19:59 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: yes | 19:59 |
| jdstrand | (which is what happens) | 20:00 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: and the issue is only in chroot | 20:00 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: are you contending it is a build issue? | 20:00 |
| jdstrand | buildd | 20:00 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: not only a buildd - pbuilder has the same problem | 20:00 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: I'd say it's an issue if you try to install open-iscsi in a chroot | 20:01 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: so this causes an FTBFS for anything that depends on open-iscsi | 20:01 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: yop - libvirt being such an example | 20:01 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, hey there | 20:05 |
| EtienneG | I am late to the discussion, and missed the beginning of it | 20:05 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, basically, a package (libvirtd, I think) have a build-dep on open-iscsi | 20:05 |
| jdstrand | EtienneG: yes | 20:06 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, building the karmic package of that package on jaunty fail | 20:06 |
| jdstrand | EtienneG, mathiaz: I am simply going to adjust the open-iscsi initscript to create the symlink only if /lib/init/rw/sendsigs.omit.d exists | 20:06 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, basically, open-iscsi is a build-dep because the Makefile of that package check for the presence of the iscsiadm executable | 20:07 |
| jdstrand | EtienneG: I could just do '|| true' as well | 20:07 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, hold on, phone rings | 20:07 |
| * jdstrand opts for '|| true' | 20:07 | |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: right - that seems the best workaround | 20:07 |
| EtienneG | mathiaz, jdstrand: if you ask, the Makefile that check for the presence of a specific executable without ever using it in the build is wrong | 20:08 |
| jdstrand | well, the initscript is wrong too | 20:08 |
| EtienneG | so technically, you could also remove the build-dep on open-iscsi by patching the Makefile | 20:08 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, they are both wrong | 20:08 |
| * jdstrand nods | 20:08 | |
| EtienneG | anyway, just saying | 20:09 |
| EtienneG | jdstrand, my recollection of that bug is fuzzy, but it struck me as being really hare-brained to check for the iscsiadm (if failing if it was not there) yet never to use it in the build | 20:09 |
| * jdstrand nods | 20:11 | |
| EtienneG | ugh, I make way too many typos | 20:11 |
| EtienneG | anyway, I think there should not be a build-dep on open-iscsi in that case | 20:11 |
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| Ampelbein | james_w: sorry to bother again, but the nbs list seems not to update. or does it just take long time? | 20:45 |
| slangasek | Ampelbein: the NBS list is only updated 4x a day IIRC, and it operates on the archive so it takes at least an hour before any changes to the archive are visible in the input to that script | 20:54 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: it's still running | 20:55 |
| james_w | almost done by the look of it | 20:55 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: there you go | 20:58 |
| Ampelbein | james_w, slangasek: thank you very much. | 20:59 |
| niktaris | hi, while trying UNR with qemu I seem to go very very slow. Anyone know how to fix this? | 21:02 |
| soren | niktaris: Simple. Don't use QEmu :) | 21:04 |
| niktaris | soren, :_D and use what? | 21:05 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, hey, could you watch evince bugs for a while? there is new breakages due to your changes | 21:11 |
| jdstrand | seb128: I am a bug subscriber, but I haven't seen anything lately... :/ | 21:12 |
| jdstrand | seb128: but I'll look at them | 21:12 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, sort by most recents, the newer ones are due to your changes | 21:13 |
| seb128 | thanks | 21:13 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I'm attempting to be on vacation this week. | 21:14 |
| Ampelbein | any core-dev available to review/sponsor 415024 | 21:14 |
| soren | niktaris: kvm, I suppose. | 21:14 |
| Ampelbein | (damn enter-key on damn netbook) any core-dev available to review/sponsor bug 415024 please? | 21:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 415024 in libtheora "Packages linking libtheora will FTBFS due to reference of non-existing libogg.la" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415024 | 21:14 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: on it | 21:16 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: an example of a FTBFS is the sparc and armel build of linphone: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30389979/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-sparc.linphone_3.1.2-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 21:18 |
| gilligan_ | anyone here working on networkmanager ? I'm trying to figure out why some usb gsm modem is not working on karmic anymore -- networkmanager stops at Stage4 (IPv4 config) and never makes it to Stage5 (IPv4 config commit) .. related bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/413989 | 21:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 413989 in ubuntu "karmic: huawei gsm modem not working anymore" [Undecided,New] | 21:20 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: thanks for sponsoring | 21:37 |
| james_w | np | 21:37 |
| mathiaz | james_w: it seems that the apr-util package branch is not up-to-date with version that is in the archive | 21:53 |
| james_w | mathiaz: that's one that failed | 21:54 |
| james_w | it's a bit of a stupid error on my part, but quite a bit of code to fix it | 21:54 |
| james_w | or I could just upgrade the branches. It doesn't fix the general issue, but would unblock you | 21:55 |
| mathiaz | james_w: that's ok - I'm not block by thius | 21:56 |
| james_w | ok | 21:57 |
| james_w | I'll work out how to fix it generally :-) | 21:57 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: hi! is there a way to specify in a profile to transition to another profile if it exists, otherwise go unconfined? eg, I would like firefox to Px evince if the profile exists. otherwise Ux it. | 22:26 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: sigh, not at the moment. | 22:32 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: doe that mean it is planned? | 22:33 |
| jdstrand | does | 22:33 |
| jdstrand | (not for karmic, but long term) | 22:33 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: jdstrand: internally it is allowed, but there are limits on the current interface | 22:33 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: ok | 22:34 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: thanks | 22:34 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: basically, the current bit layout doesn't allow, if I can come up with a way to stuff it in there are remain compatible it would take 5 min to add | 22:34 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: it isn't a big deal atm-- the firefox profile will be opt-in for the foreseeable future | 22:35 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: hold on it may actually be there by a happy quirk | 22:47 |
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